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--------- everyone and welcome to the Bradenon City Council meeting, Wednesday, July 22nd, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. in City Hall Council Chambers in the beautiful great city of Bradenton, Florida. So at this time we'll ask our pastor to come

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forward and lead us in the invocation and then we'll do the pledge and we'll start a great meeting. Thank you. >> Good morning. >> Morning. >> Let's pray together to the almighty creator of heaven and

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earth. To the one and only true God who is the creator and sustainer of all things. to the God who has revealed himself through the person of Jesus Christ who willingly laid down his life for the sins of the world. To you we humbly come today. We acknowledge that

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according to your word, you have established all those in positions of authority. Further, we recognize that you have established earthly governments for the good of the people. Today we come before you asking for your guidance and your wisdom for those here, for

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these men and women who sit in positions of authority that you would give them wisdom, that you would give them understanding, Lord, that you would allow them to make decisions and policies that are for the good of all people, that would also bring glory and

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honor to your name. Lord, we recognize that all good things come from you and that your word says that that you establish and you you provide for both the wicked and the righteous as your rain falls to water the earth for the needs that we have, Lord, that you reign

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on the good and the bad because you love your creation and desire for us to know you. And so, Lord, I pray that today in this place you would be acknowledged. Lord, I pray for your hand of protection on these men and women here. Lord, that you would guide them. Lord, that you would uphold them and that you would

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help them to make decisions that are in line with your righteousness and for the good of all people. And Lord, we give you the glory and the honor for the sustaining power that you provide for us each and every day. And it's in the mighty name of Jesus that we pray. Amen. >> Amen.

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>> Thank you. We join all veterans in the audience in the pledge. [clears throat] I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. >> Thank you, Dr. Lemons of the Calvary Baptist Church for doing coming this morning. And and as we've said at this council, we will always say a prayer and the pledge before we start every meeting. It's so important as we see what uh we had during break as a July

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4th celebration of 250 years of this great country and it was just an honor to uh to still be doing what we're doing and appreciate that Dr. Lemons. Thank you. >> This time I'll call the meeting to order. Madame clerk, >> the first item on the agenda this

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morning is a proclamation for Judge Gilbert Smith Day, July 31st, 2026. Whereas, Judge Gilbert Smith is a lifelong public servant with his involvement in leadership, integrity, and commitment to all citizens of our

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community. His service has shaped both its legal community and its broader civic landscape for decades. And whereas throughout his distinguished judicial career, Judge Smith has earned a steadfast reput reputation for

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fairness, wisdom, and unwavering dedication to justice. His work on the bench reflects not only a deep understanding of the law, but also a genuine respect for the people and community. And whereas his leadership spans numerous civic and nonprofit

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organizations, including his role as president of the Bradenon Kuanas Club and the Manatee Manatee Chamber of Commerce's legislative affairs chairmanship. He has led with humility, collaboration,

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and responsibility. And whereas Judge Smith is a dedicated mentor investing his time in guiding young professionals, supporting aspiring attorneys, and mentoring youth during their formative years. And whereas he is

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a recent recipient of the prestigious Kent C. Schultz Award by the Leadership Manity Alumni Association. And whereas Judge Smith is a respected historian and author, he has made an enduring contribution to preserving the

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region's story. Work includes Lawyers and Legends of Manatee County, second edition. And in celebration of Bradenton Kuanas' 100th year, he wrote Champions of Children, volumes 1 and two. [clears throat] Now therefore, be it

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resolved that I, Gene Brown, as mayor of the city of Bradenton, Florida, do hereby proclaim July 31st, 2026, as Judge Gilbert Smith Day, and urge all citizens to honor and thank him for his years of lifelong commitment to all

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residents. Sign Gan Brown, Mayor. >> Thank you. Judge Smith, you got some words you want to say? >> Well, um, I'm not going to say many words, but as I look out among family,

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um friends, and colleagues. I um just, um want to thank everyone for being here. Um I'm so honored, uh by this um somewhat speechless, uh to u have this

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proclamation made. Um I love uh the city of Bradon and I love Manty County. Uh that's what um inspires me to write about this community uh and write about the people here. So, you know, um we've

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always had um really strong leaders here. In fact, they're so strong and so unique that oftentimes history's made um in this community that otherwise um not anywhere else in the country. So, I want

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to thank all of you for being here. Um I I really do appreciate you being here. I've enjoyed uh my time serving as a judge. Um it's it's hard. I'm I but I knew that going in. Uh but I really um

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have enjoyed the time serving uh Many County, the citizens here and the residents of the 12th Judicial Circuit. So, thank you very much. >> All right, before we clap, stay up here. You get to get to the microphone and look at us. Now, [laughter] it it's it's not, as the sheriff would

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probably say, it's not a roast yet, but but uh it's something that I want to give the council an opportunity. Vice Mayor Coker. >> Oh, thank you. Um Joe Smith, um part of our community strength, I think, is because we have such deep roots and and

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your family and so many families um have really formed the community like you said. And I think the fact that uh your through your steadfast efforts to put pen to paper, which I don't know how much longer they'll still put pen to paper, but your books um and you

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documenting um all of the people and events that have that have come before us, and that gives us something to hand down to the next generation so that they can always know where they came from and keep an eye going forward um and not

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forget about the past. And I thank you for that. and I think the generations to come will too. >> Councilwoman Barnaby. >> Well, Judge, you've had a long distinguished career. But allow me to personally say I think

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one of the most important things that you did was your family. >> You have a beautiful wife. You have a wonderful family. They've supported you. You've supported them. I mean, Anita has done many things in this community as well. So, I want to salute you for having a wonderful family and I want to

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thank the family for giving us the gift of his time. >> Thanks. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Coachman. [clears throat] >> You know, I'm not really good at these things. I I don't really like goodbyes

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or, you know, travel on because I know there's more to come with you. I had the pleasure and the privilege to meet you when I worked with the teen court program and ever since then you have inspired me to each day try to make

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history because you are the type of person that acknowledges what we where we've been where we are and the possibilities of where we're going and I know you are going to do a lot more and

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just thank you for all you've given to to Manatee County and the city of Bradon and to you and your family. All the best. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Moore. >> Oh, I I this is definitely not goodbye. Um I um I I want to thank you and your

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family for uh many years of just being an inspiration to not just me, but my family, as you know. Um we've just been honored to observe your dedication to your community and to the preservation of that history. Uh it I personally believe that the preservation of history

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is so important so that you know where you've been and it can guide your path forward. Um but it's that commitment to community that I think that we you aspire to. So, you've been a fantastic I mean, I can't even there's no words for

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the uh example that you've set for our legal community and I know that you will continue because I know you can't put it down and I look forward to the next iteration of that preservation of history. >> Councilman Shusler. Yeah, as as uh as

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someone who's newer to or the newest member of city council, um I wanted to reiterate what we as a body has have already pretty much said, which is uh thank you for your documentation of of the history of this city, for your

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mentorship, for your leadership, and uh all of your service to Bradenton and the greater Manatee community. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Now, that was great. Everybody, you know, said a lot about their knowledge of you and different things. I'm gonna kind of go back to 10-year-old [clears throat]

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Jean Brown >> when he was sitting on your dad's lap in that courthouse with something that probably that's why I'm sitting here today because of a situation and a family dynamics and family court. But you just look at the integrity that you've brought to it from what your dad

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did to what you did the whole time. And now probably the biggest thing that's helped me is reading some of those books and different excerpts that you've done about the city of Bradenton because without history and we've seen a lot over the years and things that are on that if you don't celebrate your history

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some good some bad we're going to repeat the bad things and we want to definitely try to do good things and some decisions are made whether it's on the bench or whether it's on a dis that don't meet at the moment what people may like But when

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you look at the future of what it's done for the future, it's something so great. So, I just want to thank you and uh going all the way back. I'm sure your dad treated you the same way to make things better for the children of the world and that's what you've done for

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those next generations and what's so important to do what we're doing today and what we're going to do for the future and continue writing those because they're such great celebrations of life. but what we learn about our community that we didn't know and the

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first council members that were here and what Talent Park may have been and the first president of Kowanas that really shaped the city, you know, and what they've done. So, thank you for that. And I know there's always these uh kind of mandates that you retire, but I think

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you'll be more of a Kanian and Boy Scouts of America and all the things that have been your life. So, thank you for that and we appreciate it. Thank you, Mayor. [applause] [applause] >> So, Judge, Judge, you got to come back up. Get your

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family up with you. And then we're going to ask everybody in the audience to [clears throat] come forward that's here for Judge Smith. And we're going to get a big picture right up here. You got >> We're going to come back here. >> Yeah. You'll stay right in the middle.

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>> You want your box? >> I'm afraid I >> think it'll be okay. >> Thanks, ma'am. being so tall. [laughter] >> I have a problem. >> Yeah, everybody smile. >> It's your exercise for the day. [laughter]

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>> You want to share it? [laughter] >> Accurate. I know the safe for the city. Thank you for what you've done for all of us. >> [applause] >> You are so kind. Thank you.

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>> Your mama raised you. >> That was one thing she offers pretty insistent applaud. >> How are you? >> Good. >> You hold the chair off women. Open the doors. >> Australia. >> It was all all women who chef except for

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the wonderful to take you all to Australia. [laughter] >> Hi, how are you? >> Good. I'm so glad you came. [laughter] >> He would have said hi to you earlier when he came in. >> Except for that I was late. Yes, that's true. [laughter]

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Thank you for pointing that out, Chief. >> How are you? Good to see you. Everything good. >> Hey, buddy. That was Wait, that's the wrong picture. >> I had it except for that in Matthew's

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car. [clears throat] >> I would have had it [cough] in the other car. >> Thank you to everyone for that proclamation. indulgements for Judge Smith. Um, and obviously his family as well as him have played such a pivotal role in our community for helping the

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youth and children with the teen court and doing all that they do. So, thank you for that, Madame Clerk. >> Next item on the agenda is 4A, fiscal year 2026 through 27, employees and

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retirees insurance benefits. >> All right. So, we'll ask Danielle to come forward of Brown and Brown and give us a breakdown. Um the reason this got put on the agenda late is the last couple of years obviously everyone knows where we've been with our insurance and how some things had come up and and um

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through HR they do a great job at at really presenting it but we've started having more meetings because we're trying to get this as as we've talked about making our insurance being self-insured. We saw how we had a catastrophic situation a

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couple of years ago and we're catching up with that um from the way it happened and went with it. So, we're trying to make this insurance benefits very employeefriendly while making it as businesslike as possible to make it

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where we can flow through where we can do things and still give even better benefits. Um we've got a a board of 10 right now that we met on Monday. Mr. Perry sits on that but is a non- voting member of it. So um but as far as the

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overall we spent over two hours or close to two hours on Monday that we can streamline the plan better, make it better for the employees while also working through the monetary parts of things to make it better and then trying to educate. Probably the biggest thing

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with all of us, me included more than anybody probably, is we're afraid of change. When change can actually save us money at some point, but when and as you get older, that change comes a lot quicker. Your 20s and 30s, you never go to the doctor unless something drastic

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happens. But now you have to do more things in that. So, um, I appreciate the indulgence of putting it on. I know there's been some information, but Danielle was willing to stay. she [clears throat] lives across the state and give us this presentation today so it gets a little bit more um if you have

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questions she's a little bit more knowledgeable of the overall part of it so welcome Danielle >> thank you morning mayor vice mayor council nice to see some familiar faces it's been a while since I've been before you but we've done a lot of work with the committee over the years um

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introduction I am Danielle Bole senior vice president with Brown and Brown Insurance and we have had the pleasure of working with the city since about 2023 three. Um over that time we've made some some great uh headway with the committee and today we're going to go through multiple things that were

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discussed and uh recommended during Monday's meeting. So just in order, we're going to go through the group Medicare plan options that are presented this year and the recommendation group supplemental benefits, which are uh the supplemental

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coverages that pay the employee directly if they have an accidental injury, a hospitalization, uh one of the big scary critical illnesses like cancer, heart attack, stroke, those types of things. Um stop loss was a very great year for us. this

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year when I can't say that to many clients, stop-loss market has been on fire. Um, a lot of very high cost claims have been out in the market and uh the city has some great results this year. Pharmacy pharmacy costs continue to be

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uh one of the hot topics with all of my self-insured clients and I think nationally there's a real focus on finding a better solution, transparency, reducing that cost and taking out a lot of the middlemen and the the ambiguity that's out there with some spread pricing. So, we have a great option here

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today as well. And then we'll close with the uh 2627 health plan rates and contributions. The group Medicare Advantage plan. So, just to give some context, the city offers Medicare eligible retirees the choice to either remain on the city's

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active employee health plan with Florida Blue or to choose a group Medicare Advantage plan, which currently is offered through Florida Blue. A group Medicare Advantage plan preserves the city sponsored group health plan

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experience while using Medicare benefits funding to provide coverage specifically designed for your Medicare eligible retirees. On the group Medicare plan, the co-pays shown that I'll show you in a moment are the amount the retiree pays at the point

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of service. Whereas on the active plan, a Medicare eligible retiree really doesn't know what they're going to be paying because Medicare by federal law has to pay as primary for retirees and secondary you don't know until Medicare pays first. So that leaves a

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lot of questions for retirees when they go to use the plan. Um on the Florida Blue Medicare plan renewal that you installed uh two years ago, they released at an 8% increase. However, if the city would have moved to

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a January renewal date just for that Medicare plan, uh they would have held the rates, the current rates until the end of 2027. And there there was some reason with reinsurance that they cited for that. But a better option was

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presented through Humanana. Humanana exited the group employer market several years ago and decided to focus primarily on Medicare and they've added quite a bit uh to their programs and services for those Medicare beneficiaries.

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They came in with a lower cost option, saving the retiree $24 per month, about 5.7%. And then they improved the benefits, things like free hospitalization, inpatient, outpatient, um more competitive co-pay structures for other

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services that I'll show you. The provider network is also very strong. There's no concern there. And with the Humanana plan, it is a passive PO, which means anywhere that accepts Medicare, the retiree can go and pay the same

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co-pay. So they don't have to go to a Humanana Medicare in network provider. It's a passive PO structure. The committee did vote to move to Humanana for this renewal and Humanana has uh committed to being present to

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educate retirees about the the benefits of the plan. I wanted to show you first the plan design and anything that is highlighted in green on the Humanana plan is what we would perceive as a better benefit than what you have today or what the Florida

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blue renewal was. The Florida blue plan had some mandatory plan design changes which are shaded on the gray column or in the gray in the middle column. So that is the Florida blue plan, but what they proposed for the renewal because for that entire block of business, they

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made some changes like increasing the annual po annual out-of-pocket maximum for medical from 1,000 to 2,000. Uh they modified the inpatient hospital stay to be $200 per day for 7 days rather than just the five days that they had before. For example,

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on the Humanana plan, the medical out-of- pocket maximum is $1,500. The co-pays are similar to what you have today. Uh, however, primary care would be $15, specialist 25. Uh, urgent care is aligned with what you pay today, and

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emergency room is $65. The ones that are shaded in green, you'll see free hospital services for inpatient. Uh, diagnostic procedures at the hospital and freestanding radiology facility for labs and u MRIs, etc. are

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all free. And I won't read everything to you, but you can see there's a lot of green on the board. And it's also a lowerc cost plan. For for just a moment, I wanted to show you how this plan compares to the two group active plans through Florida Blue

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that your retirees are enrolled in. The city does offer three plans through Florida Blue. However, one of them is a uh health savings account qualified plan and as a Medicare eligible retiree, they're not eligible for that pre-tax benefit of an HSA. So, I'm showing the

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two that you have retirees enrolled in. Anything that is shaded in green, of course, is going to be better than what you have with the Florida Blue plans. But, just by way of example, for an inpatient hospital stay on your richest option, it's $250 a day for days one

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through five. meaning um they are going to be paying a maximum of $1,250 for that hospital stay that would have been free with Humanana and the outpatient experience is similar. So $200 is your richest benefit for that HMO plan on the Florida Blue

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Active and it would be free on the Humanana plan. I say all of this for the public record and we will say this during open enrollment because I really would like to educate your retirees that this is a great option. I would take this plan tomorrow if I was eligible for it. Um, not only do they know what they

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will pay at the point of service, it's lower cost and it's lower premium and lower cost at point of service. So, I just wanted to um review that with you. I'll pause for a moment to see if you have any questions on the group Medicare before we move into the supplemental

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benefits >> questions. All right. >> Okay. Thank you. I I have a quick question here, Mr. >> I did, too. >> Daniel, how many um how many people take advantage of the Medicare?

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>> You only have 20. >> That's what I thought. I thought it was a small number. >> And generally speaking, I mean, what it's going to do is provide coverage where Medicare doesn't for and more coverage even where it does. >> Yes. >> So those things like part B and C and

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there's coverage there. So, your Medicare eligible retirees are required to have Medicare Part B. Um, that is something that typically comes out of their retirement, I believe, automatically. This plan replaces that for all intents

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and purposes. And they just have one card. It'll be a Medicare Advantage card with Humanana. It'll include their hospital, their doctors, their pharmacy, just like you have today with Florida Blue. So, you have one ID card. go and you don't have to worry about showing them your Medicare card. Also,

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[clears throat] >> Vice Mayor Coker has a question. >> At what age are you I I know 65, but can't you [clears throat] ahead of that? >> No. At for Social Security, you can, but for Medicare, it's 65. >> Okay. >> Um, and we do have some retirees that I

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think have stayed on the group plan for two reasons. One, it's different, right? There it's you're moving to a Medicare plan. And there might be some questions on is that really as good as and 100% it's better. Um the other reason is that many have families. So maybe a spouse is

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not yet age 65. And we really need retirees to understand that the city's plan as a self-insured plan allows the spouse and dependent to stay on the active plan until the spouse reaches 65 if that retiree would like to go on the Medicare plan.

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>> So it can it's a win-win. Correct. where they don't have to stay all or nothing. They they're 65, they go on it, but their spouse is still covered, which will still save the plan money overall. >> Yes. >> And that's that's why we thought this was important to to bring it in this

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way. And there'll be some other discussion about it was not on today's agenda, but we're going to bring up more about our 65 employee 65 year old employees that are have retired. >> Yes. >> But that'll be for a later day. >> Mr. Mayor, I Yes, sir. Um, if I may, I

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just wanted to kind of highlight Danielle, am I correct in that when you look at some of the smaller ticket items, uh, $25 versus 15, but mainly with the Humanana and the Medicare, what really wanted to highlight is the

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hospital stays and some of the bigger ticket items. That's really where people aren't prepared and it's it's that's where people get in trouble and it's just a big big s >> and basically those the savings per month

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>> you're probably not going to change by by the from 20 to 25 $5. You're probably not going five times in the month which would take up that 24 plus savings. >> But if you have to go in the hospital it's $200 a day that you're not paying now, right? So those things when you

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offset the little bit, you know, you'd like it 85 90%. You can't kill it for that small percentage. >> Yeah. I mean the the the hospital stays the the major labs um those get quite expensive and and there's big big savings with the human plan.

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>> Yes. And as part of the open enrollment um process, we will of course be educating the retirees of this option, but there's even additional features. There's dental, there's vision, there's a very broad schedule of benefits which was included as an attachment in your agenda packet

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>> that'll actually improve the plan even more. >> Correct. >> And then we did last year, we gave the current retirees the opportunity to have a once back >> where if they went to something >> and they didn't like it, they could come

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back on our plan, which most plans don't do that. And that option will still be there if for some reason they get on it. and and uh something happens and they don't like it, but I think they're they really look at it, they're going to think it's such a better plan. >> Just just one other point sitting on the

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insurance committee and dealing with this for the last couple three years at least. >> Um I I think there's been a general um interest in trying to have retirees transfer off our health care system onto Medicare. One of the reasons is is that

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you paid for Medicare coverage your whole life and it's a government provided, you know, insurance program, whereas our program is self-insured. And so if we have I forget what the number of retirees on our plan is, Doug and I and a lot of other people have talked about this over the years both on the

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committee and otherwise, but um if we could get those folks that are are a little bit um more senior that typically have higher health care costs because of that to get transfer off, then our claims experience would be probably less

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ultimately from our self-insured entity. And again that the individuals have already paid for the Medicare coverage. But the argument is twofold. I think one is it's scary because you're making a a displacement a change. Um and then

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secondly, you do pay for Medicare in certain cases. Um I got my estimate and it was pretty high. I didn't >> but when you turn my age you start to realize these things that you thought were just free, you know, and and so you do pay for it. and one. But um our

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program also provides for um the the what do we call it, mayor? Um the payment that you get from from the city. >> Oh, yeah. There's a >> stipen stipen, right? >> Based on your years of service, >> years of service. >> And some people get like $400 a month in

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a stipen. And then if you also have FRS employment, FRS gives you a stipen. I think their cap went up to 160 a month. But the reality is is that you could actually make money um by taking the stipen using the Medicare coverage,

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buying the supplemental policy to get better coverage. And so there are scenarios that are like that. But the complexity of our health care system does provide a great deal of um uh

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misunderstanding, ambiguity, and other things for people to understand it. and and we're dealing with that phenomena. I think we deal with it from the HR benefits perspective when we do our open enrollment and try to educate employees and Danielle's folks help us with that and when we do it on the insurance

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committee. >> Well, it's going to come, Mr. Perry, and as we talked, it's going to come down to the education that >> we understand it 100%. We've got a great board now with our new fire representative. Um, Steve Rristler is actually in the insurance world.

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Obviously, we've got some others that are around that understand it and the 10 committee members from each department, you know, [clears throat] have have really seen over the last several years how this can make it better. And if you are that retiree and you get some older

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retirees get not very much because of the way the plans were. But if if you can go from paying even an HMO $831 a month to $400 a month, I don't see how you don't do it, >> you know. And that's but again, we have to get them to realize, we have to get

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us to realize of what that is. And if you've been through anything lately, especially when you're older, you've been through things, you realize it can add up. >> All right. So, I think this one's pretty good. Do you have anything else before we want to make a motion for this?

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>> I think that many times be when you see something that is half the price and better benefit, what's the catch is the first thing that would come to somebody's mind, right? Medicare is the largest purchaser of health care in the United States. They are able to get drug

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prices for much lower than what we are able to get drug prices. They are able to get hospital services for a fair, reasonable price. So, it's not that it's not as good. They're just they have more clout. They're able to get the fair,

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transparent pricing that is really I would love for all of us to be able to get. Um, but yes, it's not too good to be true. It's not like what's the catch? It's just it's better buying power and that's it. >> All right. So, any other questions?

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Well, there's a a preferred motion. So, um Anything else on that one, Daniel? So, we would go through be motion number one. >> Um, chair would entertain a motion. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. Mr. Schlerler, >> I'd like to motion to change from the

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Florida Blue Group Medicare Advantage plan over to the Humanana Group Medicare Plan for a 5.7% savings with a deadline for employees and retirees to switch carriers on October 1st by October 1st, 2026.

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>> Second. >> All right. Any other questions or comments? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in ward one. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> And five. >> Yes. >> Carries five to zero. Thank you. Next,

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Danielle. >> All right. The next item is your group supplemental benefits. Supplemental coverages. Accident, hospital indemnity, and critical illness are available to employees. Um, it's fully paid by the employee. And right now, you have two

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carriers that are offering those coverages to employees, AFLAC and All State. Payments from those providers if the employee signs up and files a claim, goes directly to the employee to help them pay for household expenses or for

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the things that your insurance doesn't pay. So, if you have co-pays, deductibles, patient responsibility, it can help with all of those. But really the employee chooses what to do with the money uh for for their best uh of their household. On the group market we see

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quite a bit of savings whenever there's a competitive process if a legacy plan has been in place for for many years and this year we did see that. Um very happy with the premium savings that we uh were able to achieve here. The committee is

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recommending Sunlife for these coverages. There's substantial premium savings that I will show you in a moment. But all three plans have no pre-existing condition exclusions, which is an advantage from what you currently have today. So, for example, a um a

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pregnancy [clears throat] would be excluded. So, somebody wanting to use their plan for a hospital stay under your current plan and they're already pregnant, they would say no. um or even if you have any pre-existing condition, you don't you cannot have a hospital

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stay covered for that pre-existing condition for 12 months under your current plan. So, these plans do not have that limitation. That's a huge win for somebody that knows they're going to be facing a hospitalization in the coming year. There's no evidence of insurability

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required ever. So, not this open enrollment and not in subsequent open enrollments. People can just come on the plan, get critical illness, and there's not an evidence of insurability that would be required saying, "Are you um on high blood pressure medicine? We're going to exclude you from critical

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illness," for example. They are portable, meaning the employee can take them take the plan with them at the same rate if they leave employment, whether that be um retirement or at termination. An update for the committee. This is actually something that could be

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available for your retirees if you wanted to offer it to them as well. It's fully paid by the person, so you can absolutely can do that. The current hospital indemnity plan has that 12-month pre-existing condition exclusion, and I already said the uh

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pregnancy. Sunlife also wanted to help the city with a goal that we've had for a couple of years, which is getting the employees an online enrollment platform where they don't have to do as much paper during open enrollment. That doesn't mean that that would be the only option or that

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we'd throw them out and just say the technology is is all you have. There is support that we wrap around that. Um, but in order to help cover the cost, Sunlife has thrown in a $5,000 implementation fund and a commitment to pay 3% of any premium they receive back

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to the city or the selected vendor so employees can have that option. Um, with I think in the past three years I've moved three other cities that were still using paper because sometimes um, Ununice Tyler Technologies can be a little difficult to work within that HR

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portal. Um so this is something that we would be able to look at for 2027. So more to come on that just a quick overview and as in the appendix of this I've included the full schedules of all the benefits because they are very long in the way that the

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accident plan works. For example, the benefits stack on top of one another, meaning everything that is associated with that accident, whether it's I needed crutches, an ER visit, and follow-up care, or I was in a motorcycle accident and I was hospitalized, ICU,

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um, intensive care unit per day benefit, uh, stacks all the way on top, and it there's not a cap as far as what would be received associated with that accident. Um, so the premiums here were 8% lower on the low plan. So there's two plans that are offered. 8% lower on the

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low plan, 13% lower on the high plan versus what you currently have today. Stronger benefits. There is an accidental death benefit that I did want to highlight because I think it's often overlooked. I use this to buy very cheap accidental death coverage for myself and my spouse because if you're killed in a

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car accident, that's always what you worry about when you have kids at home. um it does pay out 50,000 on the low plan and 75 on the high and there's no evidence of insurability or anything because it's accident can be a lowcost option and then a $50

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wellness screening benefit per person. So, I've called out the wellness screening benefits, which are 50 on the accident, 50 on the hospital indemnity, and 100 on the critical illness because when you look at how much the premium is, and then you look at the wellness benefit, you really just need to go get your physical, and the premiums usually

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pay for themselves, at least for an employee only. Um, the hospital indemnity plan, the premiums were 10 to 75% lower than they are today. 75% lower. So, the older employees right now have an agebanded rate. So if they are

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in the 50 60 [clears throat] 70 plus range, they're going to be paying quite a bit more currently. And these are just complete composite rates. So your younger employees are paying the same as the older for the hospital indemnity plan. Uh pregnancy covered day one. And

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then in addition for maternity, newborn benefits pay on top of the mom benefits. And normally I don't see newborn benefits covered on these plans. Uh there is a $50 wellness screening benefit as well. critical illness. We saw premiums in the range of 15 to 60%

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below current. And a feature that I have not seen, this is newer to the market, is it includes a benefit as a critical illness if a woman cannot get pregnant and needs to have IVF or other treatment for fertility. $15,000

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benefit for that. And just from what I've encountered in the market, that's that can be what a round of IVF costs. um that's a good price. It can be more than that. Includes health navigator call lines. So if somebody, let's say,

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is facing that fertility issue and needs a recommendation to the best-in-class provider or they are facing a a new scary condition like cancer. This is somebody that they can ask questions, uh help with claims, etc. There's a $100 wellness screening

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benefit here, of course, because you want people to have their screenings to avoid catching something at a later date. [clears throat] Uh there is one thing that came up during the insurance committee meeting that I didn't highlight here and I do want to mention it's important that

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employees look at their coverages today if they have one of the cancer plans because these plans work differently. like a critical illness here will pay a lump sum when you're diagnosed with something. So diagnosed with stroke, cancer, heart attack. Um there's um many

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many other things that are listed in your ben or in the uh appendix with the schedule of benefits including Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, childhood conditions, but cancer policies, if an employee buys those at a a younger age, they're locked in at whatever age that

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was and they have different types of benefits that pay out specifically for chemo or specifically for travel or experimental treatments, etc. So they may want to keep that and they absolutely can. I would encourage anyone that is looking at keeping their

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accident, hospital indemnity or critical illness to really think about that though because the premium savings is just in every tier. It was premium savings for for a better benefit. Any questions on that? >> A couple quick questions.

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>> Mr. Daniel, how many people actually take advantage out of all of our employees and employabil employee insurable employee retirees take advantage of a supplemental benefit program? >> I believe you're a couple hundred. >> Okay. And who would be like I know that

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if I you know I have at open enrollment a decision to make whether I'm going to go with a health savings account, an HSA, an HMO or PO. So, I believe that I'm I've got insurance, but I also understand that there's limits that I got to pay like 4500, no, up to 4,500

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for certain things and then other deals. And so, this fills the gap. I look at this as as part of a gap >> sub when it says supplemental, that's what I'm doing. But, I've heard stories, I think even the mayor told me a story, which was pretty good story about someone that uh did have a sizable, not

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just a stop loss, but other things too that are covered in here. So, I can understand why why somebody would do that. Um, I I I guess my my big thing is that you can have insurance, but you can still get hit with a whole heck of a lot

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of medical bills, >> right? And that's what this is designed to do, >> okay? >> And uh Mr. prepared too. Not only that, not only for uh health issues, but if just as an as an example, if an employee

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is out for an extended period of time and his spouse has to take care of them, these are supplemental policies. So, they pay directly to you, not to the provider. So, it really saves you in terms of mortgage payments, car payments, um you know, since they are payable directly to

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you. So, it's not just in healthcare coverage. Um, and they're they're quite inexpensive. And so for those that are young and bulletproof and feel that they're going to live forever and then they get in a car accident and they're out for an extended period of time, >> this can really cover the family.

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>> Yeah. For the price of the premium, it was very attractive once I learned more about it. I never looked at it quite that way. And I think I probably shared that sentiment with a lot of other people that go, I got health insurance. I'm covered. But as you said, there's other scenarios [clears throat] beyond just the the cost of the health care

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that's covered as well. And Danielle pointed out things like accidental death and >> you know, >> well, we've all had friends or in your own family where you've had an accident or something with your child or whether it's in sports or whether it's in all of that. So, you just look at it and you

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know when you're young and invincible as was said, you don't think about that. But at the cost that it is, it's almost worth doing. It's another insurance, but if you have one, you know, ACL tear in a child, it's helping you offset some of

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those costs to you. And I've we've all had friends or seen it to ourselves, but um so I think we've got this information. So chair would entertain a motion for >> supplemental insurance. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. Mr. Shler,

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>> I would motion to replace all state and AFLAC supplemental insurance options with Sunlife supplemental insurance coverage options. >> Second. >> All right. Seconded by Miss Barnaby. Any other discussion? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in W two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes.

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>> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Approved. Five to zero. Thank you, Danielle. >> Thank you. I think your employees will appreciate the little money back in their paychecks too from the lower premiums. That's great.

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>> All right, stop loss. This was u like I said a great result this year. the market generally we are assuming when before we get renewals a 30% increase for our clients when we are using our actuary to project forward what the cost will be and the reason is there's just

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been many many more 500,000 a million plus claims that are happening uh left and right that used to be very unusual um the city has not had that experience for this year or last year a few years

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ago there was an anomaly That was quite catastrophic. But where we ended up is, well, just a quick refresher, you are self-insured, but you have stop loss that protects you against catastrophic losses. The individual stop loss that

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you have today is 275,000, and you pay a premium to HM, which is part of Florida Blue. They have a partnership for that stop-loss coverage. You've been with them for many years. Each year, we do shop the market to find the best deal. And this year the recommendation is to

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move to Sunlife. Sunlife uh is a great stop-loss partner. Actually, I have more stop-loss business with them than I even do supplemental benefits. And it's because they add additional things um that like they did for you all this year. The premium is coming in 4% lower

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than what you're paying today, which it's not often that we're seeing a decrease in this market. It's about $42,000 lower in annual cost than what the city's paying today for that protection. Florida Blue did come back and um through negotiations and offer a

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slightly below current, but it was about 30,000 more than Sunlife. So, was something that's not employee facing is behind the scenes. It's the committee was um it [clears throat] was a no-brainer. I think the included provisions like a 50% rate renewal cap,

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which may sound crazy. Why would we want to who's ever going to have a 50% renewal? I've had clients with a hundred 100% renewals or they will throw in things like a a laser which is an alternate stop-loss level for one person based on their condition. That can

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really throw your budget haywire. And so this having that rate cap is important. $2 million aggregate limit. So, one other thing that you pay for, it's a much smaller portion of your stop-loss premium, is what if the whole plan, not just one person's claims are high, but

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we have a really bad year with a lot of people with $50,000, $100,000 claims, we never really get that stop-loss protection for the one person. Aggregate coverage kicks in and it caps your losses at um 125% of expected. And so,

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right now, you have a million dollars in coverage. We got them to increase that to two million, which means if you have an awful year and you get to that 125% of what we c thought you would be at or what the underwriters thought you would be at, SunLife would come in and pick up the next $2 million, which means you

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likely would not exceed that because you have catastrophic loss for one person. So, if you were to have that crazy claimant come in, that's protected, but the whole plan as a whole wouldn't go 2 million over. Experience refund provision. So, your claims have run well the past two years. We've barely had any

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stop-loss activity this year. You've had no one that has exceeded the stop loss so far through June, uh, with several, we have until October or the end of September for that to materialize, and there's a couple that are close. But really, when that happens, the stop-loss carrier is making all of that money in

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profit. They're not paying anything out in claims. And what some proposed was to share that underwriting profit with you. So if your loss ratio is better than a 70%, they are going to give you 50% of the profit back.

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So that that's a great feature if you are running well. They also included a cancer expert medical service, which is something that I've been recommending for my clients across the board, but it has a fee. Um but what this provides is

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one-on-one um second opinion service between the treating provider, so the local physician if somebody is diagnosed with cancer can get a written second opinion from the bestin-class for that type of cancer. Um, the provider community actually likes this because

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maybe you have a a a cancer that you're not experienced with dealing or maybe you don't have the time or resources to stay up to date with the most cutting edge that a Sloan Ketering doctor may have. Um, it's not required, but employees do have access to that second opinion service and they will work with

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the local physician team. uh 41% of the written second opinion Sunlife helped the members with led to a change in treatment. Sometimes it changes the diagnosis. We had one employee who was told that they had

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breast cancer and needed a double mastctomy. This was three years ago and got a second opinion did not have breast cancer. So there this thing things happen. It it can help to have a second set of eyes especially the bestin-class out there.

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Um, I did provide the detail on the experience refund provision, but I already hit on that. So, any questions I can answer on the stop loss >> questions? >> Yes, Mr. >> What [clears throat] happens to the benefit of the refund? So, it gets returned to the city and then

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>> it would go into the health insurance fund to be used for claims and other insurance expenses. >> Mr. Perry, >> I was I was kind of scared the situation we were in two years ago. We had probably one of the most catastrophic

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um exposures that I've ever [clears throat] seen. We had an individual and sad terrible situation with I think it was upwards of $40 million over 40 million. >> Yeah. And so we had stop loss for that

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basically, but it was a continuing situation and the stop-loss we weren't sure we were going to get anybody to write a stop-loss for the next insurable year because who would take on that kind of exposure

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and um I think at the end of the day Florida Blue and was the one they did >> one group that came up and they they had a laser I didn't know what that term meant, but it's a carveout. It says we'll provide stop loss, but we're not going to provide stop-loss for that patient

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>> and that insured. That's a bad situation to be in for self-insured entity because if we had to cover that, we couldn't. I I don't know where $40 million would come from for for for one insurance claim. Um and and and this

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what's before us is a lot better than what we had both from a fiscal from a coverage and uh for probably a strategic reason as far as liability protections. I'm glad to see that we are basically able to be insurable at reasonable rates

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in the stop-loss market. And the way they do that, not one I call it excess coverage. That's what lawyers call it. It's insured to a certain expense. You're insured to a certain amount and then the excess is covered. There's usually like seven excess carriers that

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have tiers of that additional amount. 275,000. That's what the threshold is. Anything over 275 is excess covered >> by by a a syndicate of insurance basically. And that's kind of the way we handle it. Florida Blue and HM picked up

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the next layer up to $4 million and then the reinsurance had to cover the Delta between four and $40 million. That was a really big hit for the reinsurance for Florida Blue that year. >> In your in your career, have you ever

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seen a larger one? >> No. >> Neither neither had Florida Blue. >> Yeah. No. And that was something that policies changed, plans changed, and we also, you never individual because we wanted >> them to get the best coverage they could

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in in their, you know, to help do what they could to with their medical part. But the biggest thing was we saw that that you can stand up to big pharma hospitals and but at what cost? And I like that, you know, the maximum

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increase can be up to only 50%. >> Where you could come in and we could be >> 5,000% if we would have been on the other situation, you know, and then not been able to pay it. So, um, a lot of discussion on this. The chair will entertain a motion for the stop loss

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coverage. >> Mr. [clears throat] Mayor. >> Yes, ma'am. Motion to switch from Humanana. What is that? Jim Insurance over to Sunlife Financial [clears throat] Stop Loss Coverage. >> Thank you. Motion. Do I have a second?

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>> Second. >> All right. By Vice Mayor Coker. Any other discussion? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in W three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Approved. Danielle.

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>> Moving right on. Uh the next topic we are going to address is the pharmacy benefit manager. So just to set the stage, the city is self-insured and uh about three or three years ago we carves out the pharmacy

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from Florida Blue to get a more competitive offer through RX benefits which is a group purchasing organization. Basically they combine all of their groups together and approach the pharmacy benefit managers to get better pricing. Um they've been a great partner. Uh, I think the service has

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been has been great, but we've seen the pharmacy claims over the past 18 months are really all that's been driving the cost. Your medical claims haven't really increased even at market level trends, but the pharmacy has. And so, we needed

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to look at the the full market again. Um, our Brown and Brown has a pharmacy consulting arm and we also have a managed pharmacy alliance which does something like RX benefits does. combines [clears throat] the purchasing power of u all brown and brown clients

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to go to not only the big three PBMs that RX benefits partners with Express Script, CVS and Optum which are owned by insurance companies but also transparent independent PBMs and uh RX Benefits is also on that panel. We

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do think they do a great job, but this year the results came back and there was a a better option and I'm really happy that it was Med Impact that was recommended by the committee. They are the largest independent pharmacy benefit manager in the world. And you say what does independent mean? It means they don't they're not owned by an insurance

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carrier who has other profit motives, right? And so by going in that independent route, we're able to do some more creative solutions like taking advantage of the manufact drug manufacturers coupon assistance programs that are out

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there for specialty and brand medications to the tune of about $300,000 in savings that the plan would have and members pay 0 to5. It's it's an it's a win-win, but we weren't able to do that with the the major PBMs. Um, there are other services

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that they provide and the hands-on advocacy that you are used to today with uh RX benefits, but a little bit richer than that. So, the overall savings of 24% uh roughly $615,000 versus the renewal PBM.

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So, that doesn't mean your costs are going down by $615,000. With pharmacy, it is mitigating what the increase is. Um, but versus your renewal contract terms, the same medications under that plan would have been $615,000 more than they will be with Meta Impact. There's a

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portion of that savings that will have a delay. This plan does still get pharmacy rebates. So, with uh anytime somebody fills a brand or specialty medication, the manufacturer of that medication sends a check to the pharmacy benefit manager. The difference is with Met

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Impact, that check is sent right to the city without them taking any of it. It's a pass through uh model, but it's also there's a delay. So, they have to wait for those rebates to be received and then they do a reconciliation. And so, it's 150 days after the close of a quarter is when the first MET impact

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rebate will be received. So, that's where the 18-month lag comes in. But your immediate savings on the better drug cost and the um programs like the manufacturers's assistance happen on day one.

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And I think that may Oh, I have included that already. The last thing I'll say is the recommendation I think supports that the committee's responsibility which is to ensure that your plan dollars are spent wisely while maintaining access to

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highquality providers uh prescription benefits for your employees and retirees and that is something that is my sole focus is helping employers get the tools to do that. Uh just quickly, there is going to be all members will be getting new ID cards

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this year because your Florida Blue card also houses your pharmacy benefit manager information. So all of the people that are on the Florida Blue plan will get a new ID card with the med impact pharmacy information. Uh we will be able to um look for we are going to

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have files that go over to make the transition easier. So prior authorizations that are already out there will feed over to Med Impact, things like that. So just know that we're working everything behind the scenes. Um there's also no disruption to your pharmacies. So the members can still go to the sameies that they're

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used to going to. Uh mail order and specialty will just be changing and we'll get some notification out on that. Uh this is just a some of the ways that they save money. They being met impact. So the specialty co-pay and patient assistance programs, they do that for

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nonsp specialty medications, which is unique in the market. Most of the PBMs out there that will do any of it will only do it for specialty meds, which represent like 15 of your medications and not any of the brands like the Ozmpics that are out there, for example. Don't we want to have a little bit of

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manufacturers assistance for that? Um, they also do a bioimilar conversion, which means for the very expensive specialty medications that are out there, there are generics, for lack of a better term, but they're called biosimilars that are 20% of the cost. 20% of the cost on something that's 10

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to $15,000 a month currently is a huge gamecher for a self-insured plan. So, we will be tracking their performance and I'm happy to report back to you um as requested. Any questions on the pharmacy benefit manager

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>> question Mrs. Moore and then M coachman did you have okay then Mr. issues left. Okay. >> For that benefit for the [clears throat] um for the bioimilar. >> Yeah. >> Um do they have to choose that? >> So for if they are interchangeable, so

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there's two types of uh biosimilars. If they are considered interchangeable, meaning the pharmacist could truly just say no, this is the same thing. Yes, it's mandatory. Um so hum is an example of that. Stellar is getting there. um the the price of those medications have

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been I just [clears throat] excessive and the PE or the manufacturers will do something creative like change the way that you receive the medication by putting it in a pen instead of a needle and that extends the patent for another five years and meanwhile employers are

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paying 10 15 20 grand per person that's on the medication. So yes it is mandatory for things that are interchangeable. If there are biosimilars that are new to market and they're not considered interchangeable yet then no it is not mandatory but the member will have the guidance on the phone but whenever they are filling that

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specialty medication to discuss that option. >> Mr. Schustler. >> Yeah. My my question was along the same lines as uh Councilwoman Moors in that if it is bioimilar

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but your doctor says absolutely not you need to take this medicine and not the bioimilar are there exclusions >> no so here is um I'm glad that you brought that up not only for specialty medications but for brandame medications

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so many times s or not many times, very little time, but we do see this. Maybe there is something within the uh generic that the member is allergic to a coding on the pill for example, there is a dispenses written policy that will is

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written into your plan where if the provider says this patient needs this, the member can get that medication. >> That was my question. Okay. >> Yeah. All right. >> Any other questions? Hearing none, the chair will entertain a

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motion. >> Uh, Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. >> Um, I motion to move uh pharmacy coverage from RX Benefits Optimum RX to MPA Med Impact. >> Second.

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>> Second by Vice Mayor Coker. Any other questions? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in ward four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. [clears throat] >> One, >> yes. >> Two, >> yes. Three. >> Yes. >> Carries five to zero. Thank you, >> Danielle.

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>> All right. The grand finale. We have we have an internal actuary that does your projections for your renewals and that's how the overall premiums are are established. So instead of a fully insured carrier where they say your rate is $500 a month, we actually have an

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actuary that does this for you. With claims through May, the reforcast of your current year is good. We're not over budget. right at budget. So, uh that's always helpful. And the way that that works is they'll look at a a rolling 24-month claims period and

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project forward what uh the the cost will be using medical and pharmacy trend uh and other factors. But good news that we're not expected to land over budget. The renewal with the Sunlife stop-loss coming in at a decrease um is now

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projected at a 5.6% 6% increase to today's funding rates. So that means the city's cost, the employee cost, that alto together is your funding rate. It's fully insured equivalent rate. The insurance committee voted to proportionally split that this year so

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that employees and retirey premiums will increase by 5.6% and the city will also increase funding by 5.6% approximately 507,000 for the city. The 5.6% 6% increase for your employees is

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between 51 cents and $25 per month. And I'll show you the details on that in in a moment, but it basically depends on which plan they enroll in and if they cover their dependence where they fall within that 51 cents to $25 per month per paycheck. It's even less than that.

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>> Excuse me. >> Thank you. [cough and clears throat] Uh this is probably going to be too small for some to see, but I've tried my best to call out the important things. Uh just to talk you through how it's structured. The top row is your HMO

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plan. The uh middle section is your PO and the bottom section is your high deductible health plan which is paired with a health savings account. What I have put the red square or rectangles around is the percentage that the employee pays of the total premium

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today and what they would pay at renewal and that will be the same. So for example, somebody that is on your HMO plan that has employee only coverage, they pay 9% of whatever that premium is and the city picks up the other 91%. That goes all the way through here. Just

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to call out some of the others, for uh PO, the employee pays 5% of the premium. And for the high deductible health plan, the employee only pays 1% of the total premium. That's a great benefit that you're able to offer. Uh the overall split, meaning employee versus the city,

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is 13% is paid by employees in the form of premium contributions and the rest is paid by the city. So the dollar change and percent change that is in the different colored blue right next to the red rectangle. You'll

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see the HMO employee only, for example, will have a $4.36 increase per month. So per pay, it's even less than that. For family coverage, they're the ones that are closest to that $25. So $24.75

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would be the increase for that family premium for PO employee only $2.36 per month and for the highdeductible health plan 51 cents per month. In the very bottom you can see that if

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the enrollment stayed exactly the same as it is today the employees would pick up about 75,000 of the increase. the city would pick up the the rest about 57,000. And one other thing before I open it up to questions. Um we say everything's running well. We're running at

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budget-wise or an increase. It's where my head would go. Uh it's because the cost of medical services goes up. It's medical trend. I just don't like that word and I I don't really agree with it, but it it exists on the commercial market. Meaning if you have Blue Cross,

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Sigma, Etna, many of the carriers, they go out and negotiate deals with the hospitals, those deals automatically have escalator clauses in them, meaning every year the cost will go up for every service no matter what the the true cost of that service is. Um, but under a

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traditional plan like we have, 5.6% is phenomenal because medical trend is 8% and pharmacy is 15. So you guys are are beating that >> questions. Chair will entertain a motion.

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>> Mr. Mayor, >> motion to approve 5.6% rate increase for employees in the city of Bradenton. >> All right. Second. >> Second. >> All right. >> It is what it is. >> Further discussion. >> Well, further discussion. And I did want

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to say that in a in a you know an average increase of 15% in pharmacy uh although we are you know I've seen outside uh businesses which with a much higher increase of 5.6% the fact that we

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were able to uh reduce our pharmacy coverage um you know is is is very meaningful. So in terms of it is what it is in terms of the rate increase the savings that we're seeing in and the pharmacy benefits are

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are significant and uh yeah and then one of the things the committee really drilled down on was discussion about there's been years where maybe we didn't do an increase but then the next year we had to double or triple the increase. So, we want to try to stay consistent

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and a little bit more of the, you know, take a little bite at a time to keep it where we are and then, you know, again, hope we have another good year. I mean, that's just luck of the draw while word smithing everything else to make sure we keep it as low as possible while the

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benefits are getting richer, and that's important. So, all right. Anything else? All right, we'll start the vote in Ward five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Carries five to zero.

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>> All right. >> Uh the only thing that I just wanted to show you here is there is a shade on this plan. IRS rules dictate the minimum deductibles for HSA plan. So they are going up by $50 per those rules. We'll communicate that during open enrollment. And I lied about the grand finale, but

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this one is nowhere near as uh extensive. you have flexible spending and health savings accounts uh that are administered through health equity right now and there has been some ad uh not only administrative challenges but employee challenges dealing with that

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vendor and it's not just the city across the board there's been some challenges with health equity we've seen a trend in that space the administrator space for those spending accounts in Cobra of consolidation where there used to be 20 when I started in this business in 2009

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we are down to probably five. None of them are my favorite except MedCom is one that I do a lot of business with and that is who the committee is recommending that you move to. You actually get a person. You get a person on the phone. You get a dedicated

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contact for Shemica and the benefits team. Uh employees can actually talk to a person. That's unusual right now. I have to say it is unusual to talk to a person with these spending account vendors. Um they are responsive if there's ever an issue. we have a phenomenal relationship with our

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leadership team too and I can get things done for you. So with that uh that was where the recommendation came from. The other piece is that you currently fund a health savings account for anyone that elects that high deductible health plan. This [clears throat] is common uh

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especially in public sector because if you're used to coming from a very rich co-paybased plan and you go into a plan that has a $1,600 deductible or a $3,200 family deductible, which is where the IRS sets those minimums year-over-year, it's going up to a little bit more than

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that for 2027. the amount that employee has to meet on day one, especially if they're not familiar with what drugs actually cost. They're isolated by a 10 $15 co-ay and then they go to fill their brand new medication, it's 500. That can happen. Um, so as a

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way of limiting that exposure and kind of baby stepping them or supporting the employee with that health uh HSA plan decision, employers put a fund into that health savings account. you currently do $1,000, but it's separated into each of your pay periods, which comes to about

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$34 per check is deposited in that employees savings account. There has been some feedback and really the better, I think, common practice is to at least frontload part of that. So, if somebody has something happen in October or November, they are not waiting for that $34 every paycheck to

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to be able to be reimbursed for what they had to pay out of pocket. And so the committee has voted to do a $500 front load on October 1st and the second $500 $500 payment five months later, which would be February 1st. >> And there the one of the benefits it's

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$1,000 right now. We have 32 members on it. >> Correct. >> Um out of 700 almost. So we believe and we you know with all the actuary stuff that we want to get more employees on it because even frontloading that money and

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then paying it over the time it still saves our plan money long term is what you know from being in a PO and you know with personal experience right now I'm trying to figure it out and it's hard to figure out with what I've had to pay

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this year if I'd have been on an HSA I'd be done and would have paid a lot less than I'm paying being on a PO, >> which would save our plan because it's not coming out of the PO. So, when you really start to learn this and understand it, then you pick what's the

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best plan for you. Just like when you turn 65, you know, for years we know that Medicare is the best plan for those 65 year olds, but they don't take it because they're nervous of losing something. In reality, they're not.

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>> Um, so I think that, and this will be something that I think will come up as we go through the next year on the insurance committee, what is the right number for that thousand? >> Does it go up to 1,500? Does it go up to 2,000 to entice people to switch over

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and save the plan money? But we'll really be able to see this year how it I want to drill down on that more. And and one of the things that I've asked with all of the things, but from the insurance committee, I think they used to have four meetings a year quarterly.

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We're probably having seven, eight, nine, and we'll probably have more because of learning stuff. You know, if you can't learn it and do it and make it better. And again, it all comes down to what happens in November with the election, too. Because we do not want to

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have to cut to the bone. We want to be able to still be able to do things depending on what happens at that time. So, um, we need a motion to do to switch over both of those or confirm both of what we're doing on the the FSA and the

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HSA. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. >> Uh, motion to change flexible savings account and health savings account administrator from health equity to medcom. >> All right. Is there a second? >> Second.

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>> Okay. by West Mor Cooker. Any other discussion? >> Yeah, I just wanted to mention [clears throat] regarding being uh fiscally responsible and it is in the executive summary um regarding the $500

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and the $500, we we also because these HSAs or uh FA FSAs and HSAs are portable, correct? The employee can leave with them. So the health savings account is and uh so it

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is an employeeowned savings account versus the flexible spending account. It's a use it or lose it account. And so if the employee does not exhaust the funds and they're they're own funds, right? So it's employees that are putting the money into a flexible

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spending account for the tax benefit. A health savings account is different because many employees don't know what they're going to spend in a year. And so if they put too much into a flexible spending account, they lose it. And so there's some hesitation there. A health savings account is truly a savings

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account with tax benefits. They include that the pre-tax contribution by the employer is tax-free. Uh the contribution by the employee is also taxfree. And the investment earnings, so once you get to a certain amount, which with MedCom I believe is $2,000 in your

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health savings account, you can invest the amount that's above that. And the investment earnings are also not taxed. So that we can see these accounts go into the $50,000 plus mark if people are are savvy investors. But to your point,

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once the city's money is in that account, it's gone. It's that employee savings account. And so that's really where that discussion came from about new hires. Um the there is some concern and I think a a a good one that what if you have somebody that comes in,

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they look at their options, they choose this, then they get 500 bucks and then they leave pretty quickly as a new hire. Um so there's a six-month waiting period that we are recommending or the committee has recommended for new hires before they get that first $500. So really as they're going through their

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probationary period and figuring out if they're going to stay, uh they can't just get the $500 as a bonus and and head out. >> All right. Thank you. We'll start the vote in ward one. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes.

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>> Carries five to zero. All right. Lastly, Danielle, it's it's what we had talked about early on is the employees that are reaching 65 or their retirees that are reaching 65. We're not up for a motion today, but just to give

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a little bit of information that we the committee talked about on that. >> Certainly. So, currently, as we talked about when I went through the Medicare Advantage plan, retirees, so not employees, we're not talking employees yet. Retirees that are eligible for Medicare have the option of staying on

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your group plan or choosing a Medicare Advantage plan. We're not changing anything with that. So, if they're already on Medicare, they still have the option. You're not pushing them into the Humanana plan. However, looking at all of the information that is before you,

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it is the recommendation that beginning 10127, any new retirees that are turning 65 or employees that retire and are Medicare eligible. So those two different things once they

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retire and they're Medicare eligible or if they're currently retired and they become Medicare eligible in the future after 101 of 27 they will that will be their option. The Medicare Advantage plan it's it it is a stronger benefit than what you offer today. Uh you are

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required to offer some the same coverage. You're offering better coverage under this model at a more affordable price point for your retirees. So it's it's the win-win. um there's a year kind of timeline because you don't want to just announce that and go into open enrollment a couple of

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weeks later, but it's certainly not unusual. Uh I do see it pretty common in with my clients. So, um happy to answer any questions you have. >> Private businesses, small business, it's still if they have those automatic you

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turn 65, you go to >> the Medicare plan. >> Yes. >> Now, and this does not impact active employees. I just want to be clear about that because there's federal law that protects against that. They don't want Medicare paying for everyone as soon as they turn 65. So it's if it's you're

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retired and 65. >> Retired and it won't affect the retirees from the past that are over 65. >> Correct. >> It only going forward if you turn 65. >> If you're 40 right now and you retired >> at 65 if you stayed on our plan for all

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those years, you've got to go to Medicare, >> right? and anywhere in between. That's just think about it. It'll come up at a different time. Approve. Mr. Shustler, did you have anything on that? >> No. >> All right. I mean, it was discussed. >> Yes, absolutely.

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>> Very much so. And again, the committee to a whole agrees that we need to start going that direction, but we didn't want to implement that right out of the box. >> Right. So, that's something that we will come back with um not impacting this year's renewal. >> All right. Any questions for Danielle?

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Thank you. I hope you enjoyed Bradenton for an extra two days. >> I sure did. [laughter] >> Mr. Mr. Mayor, can I say something just real quick? I just want to uh compliment Danielle and um you know, we've been able to work with her for the past three I think four years now. And one of the

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best things the city ever did was get a third party administrator. And quite frankly, I think we had the benefit of probably getting the best one in the state. I'm bragging at this point, but she's very dedicated, always accessible, drives thousands of miles every year,

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lives in her car quite frankly. So, I just want to say thank you for your dedication to the city, always looking for options to not only save us money, but what's best for the employees. So, it's not just a where can we save some dollars, but what is truly is the best program for the city and the employees

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that we have. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you, Danielle. Safe travels. All right, we're going to do one last thing and then we'll take a quick break after that. But citizen comment, citizen comment will be accepted during the citizen comment portion of the meeting on any non-aggenda items, agenda items,

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future agenda items, or topic of relevance to the city. Comments will be accepted on the public hearing at the appropriate time. And I have three citizen comment cards, but they're for the public hearing. So, we'll do those at that time. So, and I don't have any other cards. Seeing none, we'll close

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citizen comment and we'll take a recess for about five minutes. Madame Clerk, >> the next item on the agenda is the consent agenda and staff is requesting approval of items A through AE.

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>> Mr. Perry. >> Uh yeah, Mayor, I've had the the opportunity to speak with all counselors regarding the items within the consent agenda. Uh answer any questions related there too, provide additional information. Mr. Williams has done the

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same um in certain cases and uh I believe that I provided enough information for council [snorts] um and had no had no uh comments regarding the pulling any of the items from consent. All right. All right. So,

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we've had um consent agenda. Obviously, it's a bigger consent agenda items because we had a our summer break. So, coming back, you know, a lot of things are just cleaning up and with different committees that have met. So, um chair will entertain a motion.

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Approve consent agenda. >> Motion to con approve the consent agenda. >> Yep. Moved by Vice Mayor Coker. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Miss Coachman. Any further discussion? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in

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ward two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Carries. Four to zero. Council more out of the room. >> Oh, I was like, what happened? >> Locked out. >> Yeah.

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>> I don't have my badge. >> All right. So, um, Councilwoman Moore, we got approved the consent agenda by Councilwoman [clears throat] Coker, seconded by Councilwoman Coachman. We've all voted and waiting for your vote. >> Yes. >> Approved. Yes. Carried five to zero. Thank you.

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>> All right. Moving on, madame clerk. >> Item 7A is a public hearing for resolution 2628. At this time, I will administer the oath to anybody that wishes to speak during the following public hearing. Do you

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swear or affirm that the factual statements and representations which you're about to present to this board will be truthful and accurate? Thank you. >> Hello. This is a public hearing. Do you need to read it again or

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>> I It's related to the Jordan Creek. >> All right. So, welcome. Um hello, good morning, council. Um my name is Jamie Shindolf. I am here to present um the staff uh report and

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information for this case. Um I represent the planning department and I have been sworn. [gasps] Um so this is uh a reconsideration of PLN MAJ26 sorry 00001

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um resolution 2628 um which is a major plan development plan amendment for properties located um at 1201 um excuse me 27th Street East and 2906 11th Avenue East.

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Here's an overview of the case. Um the current zoning is planned development. Future land use is medium density residential and you're looking at approximately 12 acres. This is the location of the subject parcel.

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The future land use you can see on the parcel and the surrounding area. And then of course there you can see that uh plan development project designation on the property. So, uh, this just to summarize the

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proposed request, the applicant is seeking to, um, allow for two different options on the property. The first option is option A, which was approved with PP234841 for 33 single family attached buildings with each dwelling unit on its own

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individual lot. The option B coming before you today is a residential development containing 98 residential units comprised of a mixture of 4unit and sixunit town homes. Um this request did come before you a little bit differently on May 13 of

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2026. Um the request at the time was for 106 units in that same um four and six unit structure um layout. City Council at the time voted to deny that application. Staff placed a resolution

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for denial on the May 27th city council consent agenda. And at that hearing, you all were asked to um continue the case to allow the applicant to come back with a new plan for your consideration. Um, at this time, if you all are okay with it, I'd like to propose the applicant

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come up and present what they have um turned in as a new plan and then I'm happy to come back up and give the staff analysis after they've presented their >> Thank you. >> provisions forward, Mr. Grimes, >> the presentation.

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>> Gotcha. This guy down here, I know it's tiny. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Good morning, uh, Mr. Mayor, council members. Uh, Kyle Grimes. I'm an attorney with the law firm of Grimes Galvano, and I have been sworn, uh, here today on behalf of the applicant, Jordan

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Creek at Bradenton East LLC for the proposed PDP amendment uh, as Jamie said, to add an uh, additional option uh, for a town home product as an alternative. uh to the currently approved duplex uh residential project.

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Uh first, I'd like to express our appreciation for your re reconsideration of this application today uh and the opportunity to uh address a few of the the uh questions and comments that arose during the deliberations at the last hearing as well as present uh the

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changes that we have made to the site plan uh to address the the concerns raised during that hearing. Um, while I was not at the initial hearing for this, um, and haven't been on on this particular project until now, I have been working uh with the applicant and

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Mr. Jacobson, who's here today, on on this site and this project uh, since its onset back in in 2021. And so I I do I am very familiar with the project and and kind of the history surrounding it, which I I want to touch on a little bit, which I think can can help clear up a

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few of the things that were raised at the last meeting. Um just to orient us again, this this site is located uh a little south of Manty Avenue on 27th Street, uh just uh west of the Brain River. Um we we originally received

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approval for this project through a a preliminary uh subdivision plat back in 2021. Um and that was for a duplex product but on a duplex unit on a single lot. And ultimately we went through the PDP

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process to allow that duplex to be on individual lots so that we could have more of a forale project. Um and and when we were going through that original approval and and one of the things that was raised during the del deliberation last time that I' I'd like to touch on

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briefly was the access to 27th Street. I know there was um some some thoughts and things that were brought up in the last meeting on that access and I want to provide a little bit more of a backstory because when we were going through that original approval, that uh access there

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and the cross through over to uh River Run was something that was was pushed and and encouraged by uh your public works staff and the fire department because they wanted to provide that connectivity for emergency services and things not just to our site but also to the existing residential in River Run

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and the the single family further to the east. Uh so we worked with your staff and and with the fire department to make sure that that connection was provided. And of course because that's a Manatee County roadway, we then needed to go through and work with the county on on what that access would look like. Um and

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and throughout that process, our transportation consultant, who's here and come up here in just a moment, um did a lot of site visits, uh on onsite counting of transportation, um or of of trips, as well as doing this transportation analysis and worked with

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the county to show that, you know, a a turn lane for the project at that time was not warranted. Um and as you've seen your staff report and as you'll speak to the the transition to what we're doing today with the um town home attached products type results in a a net

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decrease of anticipated trips. So um of course we'll continue to have to work with the county as we move forward in the site improvement plan process. Uh but just want to provide a little bit of background of of why that connection's there. So that brings us to uh what the screen

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is here. This is the site plan that you reviewed previously and and some of the questions is why why is it moving to this, you know, slightly more dense product um in this attached uh unit type. And what that really results in is

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or or came from is the market demand in the area uh as well as other things like construction costs. And so what uh our client has seen and and is very active in this business is that the demand for the duplexes has decreased and he's

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seeing an increase in the demand for these um town homes, these a attached product type. And and part of the reason for that increase in demand comes from the price point. And when you have a product like we're proposing that's a

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little more dense, you're able to construct them in a much more cost-effective manner. And of course, that results in pass down to the the the end buyer uh and having a more attainable price point. You're with a higher density, you're able to spread

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your infrastructure cost across additional units, and it results in in a more affordable product type. And so that that's kind of the driving force behind the the thought of using this in this location. And this location is an

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infill area. It is it is surrounded by development. There's existing infrastructure. There's roadway. There's utilities available to serve it. It is an appropriate location. Um and as you heard during the last meeting, um there is a higher density multif family to the

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south and a little bit lower density single family traditional single family detached to the north. So it it provides a bit of a transition from that higher density to the lower density and we feel it is an appropriate location. So now with regard to the changes we

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have made um since that last hearing uh first foremost we did uh reduce the density by eight dwelling units that is um two four unit buildings and we remove those in very strategic locations. uh first at the northwest corner uh removed

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one of the buildings there and you know that is a a a location that will now be an additional park area open space um as well as the building in the southeast corner that will um again expand the recreational park area open space in

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that portion of the property. Um and one of the other things we've committed to uh that is shown in the landscape plan is um although we're requesting to maintain the reduced buffer width that was previously approved with um the duplexes uh we are committing to

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enhanced uh buffer plantings in that area. Um specifically um on the north side adding a a 6-ft opaque fence and 12 additional uh trees along that northern property line. and you know the buffers that's the the point to provide some

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visual separation some screening from the existing residents to the north as well as some privacy and and uh peace of mind to the new residents of this project. Um on the west side for uh adjacent to 27th Street uh it would be an addition of a shrub wall along that

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uh that 27th street and eight additional trees that um exceed the code requirements. So, I I know it's difficult to kind of picture what this project's going to look like when you're looking at a site plan like this. And so, what our client did is we had some

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an artistic rendering done. So, you can really start to visualize what this project is going to look like when it's built. And as you can see, this is characterized by extensive amount of greenery and open space. Um, we have the the retention pond and recreation area

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on the southeast corner or northeast kind of corner of the site that connects to additional recreation passive recreation areas to serve the project. Uh, and as you can see that that one that kind of runs north south has increased in size because again uh we

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removed one of the buildings in that location. Um and then at the northwest corner where you have that uh ma that intersection of 11th and 27th, we've removed the building in that location that's a larger green area anticipated to be maybe kind of a dog park or or

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additional walking area uh to serve the residents. And and of course all of these are connected to uh the sidewalks that traverse this this development. And so, um, it's it's going to be characterized by connectivity, um, walkability of the residents in here, as

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well as because these are anticipated to be public streets, residents of the surrounding area. [clears throat] Um, and and as you can see, we the buffer enhancements along the outside will provide that additional screening of the project within. So what

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we're trying to do is do a balance of having that that increase in density so that you can do it in a cost-effective way, have a more affordable, attainable housing pro uh product, but still uh you know doing it in a way

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that we have increased open space um and um appropriate screening and and transition from the the more dense multif family south to the residential to the north. Uh, with that, I'm just going to briefly bring up our um planner just to touch on a few of the the

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compliance with the comp and code. Uh, and then a traffic consultant will close out. Thank you. >> So, good morning, city council. My name is Josh Law. I'm a planner with PEP Dawson and I have been sworn in. Um, to kind of touch on a couple of things that Kyle had mentioned. Um like I um like he

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mentioned this is for 98 residential single family units. Um these would be attached. Um the density for this comes in about 8.03 units per acre which is less than the 10 units per acre which is designated by the ResMed future land use. Um it's also less dense than the

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project that you saw um in front of you a couple months ago. uh we are providing 36% open space uh which is greater than the 25% required uh per your LUR section 3413 AII and we are providing around 1.62

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acres of recreational space um which is much greater than the required halfacre uh required by your city code. Uh we are providing um 237 parking spaces uh for this project um both in front of the units and around the recommendity center

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which is also greater than city code. So we are going above and beyond with the design of this project. Um along with with that we are providing uh reasonable setbacks is what you'll see around the around the area showing that 20 foot front and 15t secondary

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front. Uh we are providing a 10-ft side and a 20 foot rear setback as well. Um as it's been mentioned, there is no accessory structures um proposed at this time. However, any accessory structures will comply with that LUR section 5.1.2.

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So, as Kyle's mentioned, I did want to show this rendering buffering one more time. Um and kind of like he's mentioned, um along 11th and 27th Street, very minimal landscape material, um landscaping is required along that um along those two streets based on that

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code section 414444. However, like Kyle mentioned, we are providing additional trees and that additional wall along 11th Avenue to the north and we are providing that, you know, wall of shrubs um to the west along 27th Street. And and like Kyle mentioned, we are providing that

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increased buffering um internal to the site as well, helping us um buffer to the residents to the to the east. As a carryover from that previously approved um option A, we are asking for that reduction um standards request from

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that 25 foot perimeter buffer to the 20 foot wide buffer. And once again, that carryover from option A that we wish to continue to keep. So, it's kind of an over overview findings of fact. Um, [snorts] we are in compliance with your land use regulations, specifically sections 351

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through 3511 relating to the compatibility with the surrounding area and having that public infrastructure already in place. We are consistent with your land use regulations sections 3413A showing compatibility of density. We are exceeding open space. We're exceeding recreation space. We're exceeding your

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parking requirements. We're providing reasonable building setbacks. And we have enhanced buffering as well. We're in compliance with the future land use density of ResMed uh showing that 8.03 units per acre rather than the 10 units per acre which is allowed. Uh the project does not adversely affect any

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general health, safety, welfare or the general public. And there are no known historical resource impacts or known environmental impacts and we are consistent with the development patterns in the area. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to Theo to talk about traffic.

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>> Thank you. Theo Patrick's Landis Evans partners have been sworn. Um, [clears throat] as Mr. Grimes mentioned, this has been kind of a moving target. Fortunately, from my standpoint, it's been a easing target because we started

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off with a very conservative assumption with the duplexes of single family units. Um, as soon as when the product changed and the character of the development changed to this this product they're doing now, it became single family attached, which reduced the amount of trips from my

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standpoint. And now that we've gone down from 106 single family attached units to 98. We're down to 48 total PMPR trips, which is about a 44% reduction from the first time I stood in front of you a couple years ago on this project.

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Another thing that has happened, you'll see here that it's the trip generation document I use is it and um first time I did this was the 10th generation of the book and now I'm on the 12th generation of the book. We use the 11th for the middle just to make sure we managed all

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the documents. And uh if you look at those documents and and in some of the submitted materials, you can see a comparison for for just using the 12 for all of these. All of these land uses have been having lower trip generation because people aren't making as many

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trips. We'll stick with deliveries for the reasons for that, but I'm sure theirs are more. Uh so I just wanted to point out that the trips have been being reduced and they have been substantially reduced from the first time we got approval on this project. One of the things we were asked to look at

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specifically was, well, what if people kind of sneak out the back way? There's that wicked curve up there as you're heading up towards Manatee. So, I did. And this graph, which you probably can't see, I'll blow up here. There were four crashes along this section of roadway. Over the last five years, I read each

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each of the crash reports. There was really one where a car failed to negotiate the curve. One of them, the vehicles have been abandoned. I got no idea what's going on there, but uh there was uh so there was one car one where a car failed to negotiate the curve with

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respect to the others. One may have been a rear-end collision and another one was actually occurring occurred on a driveway. So there are actually only three in the last five years. The reason those dots are green is because they're no injury crashes. Um this is from the

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signal for database which is what DOT uses. if there were more crashes out there, they're not in the database. So, I I grabbed every crash that was out there. So, to look at that, I don't know because there's no signal at the north end of this road that you'll have a lot of people sneaking out the back way, but

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you asked us to look at it. We looked at it. Uh the other thing that we did look at originally was left turns. And it's anticipated that left turns will be allowed to both accesses. You can make lefts to both accesses. To be

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conservative, because that's the way I I like to be, we assume they'd only occur at one entrance and all the left turns would go into one location. The um Manatee County access requirements require we look at a document called NCHRP. That's National Cooperative

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Highway Research Program, uh 745 methods. And if you look at the methodology, they have their steps. Are there are there currently right uh left turn lanes out there at any of the other roads? Are there crashes that would be reduced? Um and then finally, what are

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the volumes? There were there are no other turn lanes out there. There were 21 crashes in in the three-year period we looked at. None of them would have been mitigated would have mitigated a uh a left turn been mitigated by a left turn. So, we also were asked, okay,

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well, what's the delay going to be? So we we took what went to the development further south which has substantially more left turners than we have at this development and found that if you look at the average delay per vehicle at that location it's like 02 seconds. So we went and we did an additional

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comparative analysis for a left turn lane at the multif family unit to the south. So our conclusion is that the proposed development is not projected to substantial uh to substantially adversely impact transportation on on

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the thoroughare roadways and it shows that uh the actual what's written on the slide here is actually incorrect with the latest update. I think it's 46 trips in the PM peak total. So, we we've cut that that PMP peak trip traffic by 44%

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from the original time this uh approval occurred. And with that, >> hold on one second. Vice Mayor has a question. >> Yeah, I I just want to make sure I'm understanding you. So, you said that there's [clears throat] a 44% reduction

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in trips from the from the 33 units of single family that were originally prefer. So there's 44% less trips with 98 residential units than with 33 single family.

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>> The original I'm sorry, the original proposal that we got approval for had 86 units in it and they were designated as single family units. Okay, for for the purposes of the traffic study to be conservative, 66, I'm sorry, that

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resulted in 86 trips in the in the PMP hour. Okay, so 86 trips total in the peak hour. When you go to 98 units, given that over time the number of trips per unit has gone down for all

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residential use types and the fact that houses, individual houses produce more trips than these attached units, you get a 44% reduction in the number of trips. Yes, ma'am. And that's because when you got a number of units like that, people

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are less likely to travel because there's more people, but there's not like a home where people live in a home. Every time I do [clears throat] Yes, sir. Every time I do something in the yard, I make four trips to Home Depot, you know, that kind of thing. Uh, so there's just a a economy of trips. I

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didn't invent those numbers. It's nationally approve and there are and there are dozens of studies that show this. Um, >> Councilwoman Kos, >> those studies, they're looking at one formula. I mean,

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>> I thought I heard you also say that the trips would be reduced maybe due to deliveries. >> Yeah. >> And I know I see Amazon trucks [clears throat] a lot. Have you also studied current

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traffic in terms of you know how many deliveries are done in the neighborhood? >> I mean I just want to I think each area wherever you're doing these studies are different. You got to look at >> I've done a couple of these studies. I

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have not done any for these residentials. This is out of a document called the IT trip generation manual. The studies are done all over the country. Many of the studies in the document have been done in Florida. Um many of them in central Florida. But the what they have found is over the 10th

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generation had a trip rate that was up here. Well, they did more studies and then as time passes, you know, in 2025 the 11th gener 11th edition came out and they find that over time and this has actually been happening since I started in traffic engineering 30 years ago.

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Over time, the number of trips per residential unit during the PM peak is going down. People just are not making as many trips. The [snorts] reasons for that could be deliveries, could be, you know, it I guess Uber Eats is deliveries, it could

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be that uh we just don't want to go out as much, could be that we're tripchaining, could be that we're car pooling, whatever the reason, these are these are not foreign to Florida studies. Okay? and there are scads of them. Now, the truth is they don't throw

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away the old studies when they do the new studies. So, they're still holding on to some of that data with high volume. It's possible the trips are even lower. I I I don't need to speculate on that for this because I'm just going to use whatever the document gave me, but they are going down because of people's travel habits.

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>> So, we're concerned then only on the trips from the residents. But if you then count the possibility of deliveries, more deliveries and what have you, what have we done? I mean, it's still

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>> the the counts are taken at the driveway. I I I misunderstood your question. Every vehicle that enters and exit the entrance to the subdivision or whatever is counted. >> Okay. So, that's including delivery trucks and it's still reduced to that.

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>> Yes. It's not counting each house and adding them up. It's taking the the a cut line at the entrance. When you do a study for a gated subdivision, you park outside the gate and you count the cars and the vehicles coming in and out. So the >> that would include the Amazon >> Amazon, Uber Eats, we don't know if it's

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Uber Eats or pizza delivery. Every vehicle that goes in and out and they count trips. So they don't count >> they don't count round trips, they count directional trips. So it's the trip in and the trip out separately. >> Okay, >> that make that makes sense, Miss Coachman. Uh because I was thinking the

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same thing. get how it's really going to >> but when you look at it >> traffic >> when you look at the type of of uh resident you know there I remember I used to go to and he said at Home Depot I'd get home from Home Depot fixing

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something and I'd be back there 30 minutes later because and it was at night because I'd try to I forget that one 3/4 inch PVC connector that I needed or the glue and I'd be two or three times >> where now I live in a condo

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We like not being having to go to Home Depot. So, there is less trips. And one of the things that's amazing is you can order from some of these companies and within four hours have the product. It's just like, but again, they're coming, but those are counted. >> If I may, the other thing you have to

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consider, I said peak hour trips, very specifically peak hour trips because that's when the highest volume is on the roadway. That of course is when we're most worried about the impact. If you order from Amazon or Walmart or wherever you order from, those trips often don't have first of all, they they go to several houses in your in the in the

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location. But more importantly, they don't generally show up at 5:00 in the afternoon. They generally, you know, mine show I had one delivered at [laughter] like freaking 10:00 last night. Hello, kids are asleep. Uh but, you know, we also have the uh they show up during the middle of the day. They show up at lunchtime. I come home from

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work >> from 5 to 10. Yeah, they show up. There's also a 4 a.m. delivery. >> Yeah, >> I know. >> Oh, but the reasons we we can we could go on coming up with ideas, but the the fact is they show up in the data. The reduction in trip shows up in the data

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>> of existing traffic. >> Yes. >> Not when you Okay. >> Yeah. When you miss more. Um, so I have some thoughts on the trips and whether or not it's an absolute good thing that we're decreasing trips and

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encouraging um, delivery and Uber Eats. And that's probably a conversation that's out of the purview of what you care about, but for the rest of council, um, I don't know, you know, sometimes when we have these land use things before us, I don't I'm I'm trying to think about what we're encouraging or

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incentivizing or discouraging. And so I just park that as a note to you guys that I don't know that that's the direction that we want to go in necessarily. Uh but put >> I'm going to stop you on that. What do you mean the direction that we're going on that? >> Well, I think when we talk about encouraging things like, you know, do we

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want to see businesses thrive in that area? Well, we're not going to get there if we've encouraged people to not leave their home. >> How are we encouraging that by >> well by by this conversation about trips and it's because people don't leave and they want to get their Uber. Again, that is nothing that this council is doing.

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>> Well, I'm saying that uh as far as [clears throat] right like as far as um as far as but to the point that less trips automatically equal good. >> That's where I was going with that. I I don't know that it's necessarily the most beneficial thing that we would be

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considering. Like I'm putting that in a category of I appreciate the the data, the model, the formula, but I don't know that it's necessarily a total net positive. >> When you look at and I'm not arguing that point, >> I'm I'm saying that I believe that more

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people there would encourage more business in that area because we know when there's more heads and beds, whether no matter where it is, it's going to put more opportunity. And that's something we've been doing with our EDC right now and looking at heads

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and beds that will grow business to give an opportunity. So that's what I'm saying that I think that we're I agree with you what you're saying, but we're kind of conflating this which again I don't know how this is going to go, but I know that more people in an area

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sometimes drives business. >> Yeah, I to I I totally get that, too. So, um, I guess and I'm I'm I'm thinking about things like the the River Preserve apartments that we thought the same thing that we're going to generate so much more, you know, economic stimulus

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in that area and and I don't know, I never see those people leave the apartments. >> Well, this River Preserve is an affordable housing project >> I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that has a different >> concept of resident where this resident would be. >> And I and I don't want to get too far

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into the weeds. I'm just like my point is I'm not considering decrease in trip count >> as ne necessarily like okay great check that's a benefit necessarily. I'm just like you know frame of mind this is where I'm coming from. Um and and the

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conversation regarding the um the left-hand turn is also relevant. So my primary concern with the whole thing is PRA and and it's you know sight specific unfortunately um is your main point of ingress and egress or the one you're

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anticipating. Yeah, this is a perfect graphic. The main one that you're anticipating is directly across the street from driveways. It is a two-lane road. I know that that is a county situation, but I'm just point like this is just again letting you know where I'm coming from. Um, it's

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a two-lane road with nothing in the middle. You know, if there was something that people could, if somebody could make a left turn out of Jordan Creek and just get into that center lane, a center lane so that the driveway people can still ingress and egress out of their

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driveway safely. That seems to me to be a better situation. Um, >> let me let me I'll just make one quick statement. I don't know how much you've seen yet or not, but the county is putting three speed tables on that road along that corridor there that will slow

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traffic down. Um, and it might eliminate trips Yeah. >> because people that are cutthroughs, >> right, >> are there. Um, the other thing is is that there is the county has the right of way. Now, you can see where the sidewalks are along 27. So, the county

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owns from the sidewalks all the way, which is enough room to put a center turn lane down, and we've talked about that. But the trips on that road don't um >> justify adding that even with adding this

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because I've been talking with them quite a bit about that of why don't we just go ahead and add that turn lane down the whole thing. Um, but I don't even know if the residents would like that because they'd lose then half of what they perceive as their front yard. >> Yeah. And I and I to I can appreciate

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that. And I what I keep coming back to is this is just a little unique because on the west side of the road, it's actual driveways. It's not like it's a neighborhood that are ingressing. You know, it's not like you're competing developments that are trying to ex you know, exit their situation. And then if

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I could just like wrap it up and I know you want to respond to that, but it the next my next thought then is if that becomes a choke point and you have people in their driveways that are stuck there until they can safely navigate exiting their driveway

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um and and potentially causing a backup within the neighborhood. I I just I don't I mean I have no official data or formula to back this up, but I feel like as a consumer [clears throat] people will choose another alternative. And if you're familiar with that corner on

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Hubble, that access point to State Road 64 is very attractive for people within that area because it doesn't have a signal, but it's very signal adjacent. So 27th has a signal. they can very easily that to make a right turn out of

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there easy peasy that they're going to do that all day long. They're going to choose that in my opinion as a consumer when these are their options. And to make a left turn is also pretty not difficult because the light is so adjacent that you can really just cut across, sit in the middle and someone

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will let you in. Um and and I navigate this corner pretty, you know, I mean somewhat regularly. I don't live there, but I I am familiar with that ingress and egress from Hubble, from the Sperry Corner. And um and while I appreciate there's only been four crashes, you're

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talking about adding more people who in my opinion are going to naturally choose this um this option. And that is that's basically the nature of my I I think you just have a sightspecific issue with really poor choices for ingress and egress.

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>> Well, and if if I can, Mr. mayor and I'm going to try and touch on there's a lot there. So, um first and I'm going to go in order on the the whole delivery aspect. I don't want to lose sight of that because we're going to attached it's more deliveries. What you're saying is just in the world as as it is today

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there are more whether we have duplexes as we currently have approved and the main reduction in trips is going from traditional single family to attach. You have smaller homes, you have fewer, you know, large families in it, fewer cars. So that that's where some of that trip reduction comes in addition to just

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globally the deliveries is causing reduction. >> Sure. With regards to the access on 27th, again, we have approval for that connection today with the the 66 homes. And we we've I don't want to lose sight of that. And one of the reasons for that

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connection, and we went through this extensively with your public works staff and with the fire department back when we had this uh originally coming to this council back in in 2021 and ultimately in 2024 was they wanted that connection. They wanted the emergency service access for response times to get over to River

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Runway. our client actually wanted, you know, more of the primary access off 11th, but that was encouraged by your staff. So, we we agreed to that and then worked with the county on what that access would look like. And and yes, Mr. Mayor, I think the county is looking at more global fixes of 27th. Uh so, with

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our warrant analysis showing that it wasn't deemed necessary for this and you know, even though we're going to the attach with more units, the reduction in trip still shows that we don't warrant that uh turn lane there. But not to say that it won't be done with the county's more global fixes in the future. But as

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I mentioned, we have that access approved today whether we do these town homes or the the duplex style. Um and then with regards to the access out to Hubble, will you touch on that? Theo >> the access out to Hubble. I agree. You're shadow shadowed by two

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intersections. It's what we call intersection downstream is a shadow because we're very creative individuals as engineers. Um, but the uh the that that curve it's apparent and like I say that we have only had one crash. Are we going to

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have more cars? We may have more cars. I'm not going to you know whether or not somebody goes that way. The exiting trips in the peak hour from this if if we go with the trip generation which is what I have 21. It's one car every uh 20 seconds. I mean no what? 21 in the peak

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hour. That's one car every 20 minutes. 30 minutes right? No, three minutes. I got it. I'll get there eventually. I'm an engineer, but I need a calculator. So, every three minutes. So, we don't have a massive amount of cars exiting this site. There likely will never be a backup on the exit unless two of those

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cars have, you know, they happen to be going the same place at the same time. So, the exiting cars coming out of the development, 20 in an hour, 21 in an hour. It's it's not a huge volume. If you went out there and you counted the cars going up and down the road today on 27th and you

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counted them tomorrow, you're going to get at least 20 different cars, you know, a difference. Does it increase? Yes. You know, we're not going to deny there's going to be cars there, but it's a small number in the peak hour exiting that site. >> And and so just to reiterate, you know,

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this is a project that has development approvals. We have everything. And what our client wants to do, you know, is utilize the basic structure of what's approved. But again, to bring this product that uh one with the the changes we've made has, you know, meets that PD standard, the the increased open space,

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and we've gone beyond what's required. uh walkability, communal feel of having those places to congregate and having the sidewalks to walk through, but doing it with a product that is more cost-effective that you can have more attainable housing, which is something

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that is needed in the city. And we feel that this is a great location for it. Again, this is not a, you know, no development versus development. It's and and it's looking at what is the right thing for this this site and we really truly feel that this product type and how it's designed is is appropriate.

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>> Any other questions before we finish up with staff and then go to [cough] All right, Miss Shinholler, anything else from staff? All right. Um, yes. So, uh, they've already shown the site plan. Uh, I do want to point out this is what we

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received as part of the application and this is what's reflected in the resolution that you all were provided. Um, the renderings you were shown uh do show pathways and an additional sidewalk through those open space and recreation

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areas. And as you can see, those aren't shown on the site plan. So, I do want to point that out. Um, and if you do want to um if you do choose to vote to approve, um I would recommend adding a stipulation for that because you were shown it if

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you do want to see it in the ultimate uh final product. Um this is just the dimensional standards that uh were proposed. They haven't changed um from the original option B. Um but just to go over the PDP standards, this is our general um

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guidance on standards for PDPs. You've seen this before. Um maximum flexibility in designing a higher quality, more innovative project that might not otherwise be permitted through the land regulations. Um so as far as density is concerned, maximum density is not guaranteed for a

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proposed PDP. And I did include in the staff report some estimates of the densities in the surrounding area. Um single family homes in the area um are around 4.8 units per acre. Residential to the west looking at approximately 2.4 units. Um other development along River

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Runway comes in around 4.13, but there is an apartment community nearby that uh looks as if it has approximately 9.9 units per acre. Um all of these areas do have that same underlying future land use designation that allows up to 10 uh

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dwelling units per acre. Um, you've seen regarding open space, they have increased the amount of open space and recreational space that they're proposing for this project. Um, I've shown the building setbacks, that's pretty standard for our code. Um,

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regarding buffers, again, they are requesting that reduction um with plantings located within the the uh the 20 foot buffer if that's um approved. And there is a stipulation proposed as well regarding that. Um, and then no accessory structures have been proposed

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at this point. They did indicate at um a public hearing that the accessory structures would meet a five-foot um setback and a stipulation has been added um suggesting um suggested stipulation has been added regarding that particular

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um setback. A neighborhood activity center is not proposed regarding parking and vehicular access. Um, public works did have some concerns and I've reflected them here. This is not my area of expertise, but I am sharing it with you all. Um, the the

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public works is concerned that there are no breaks in those driveways. This is something that can be worked out at the SIP stage. um and a uh a stipulation is suggested to that effect, but they're concerned um with pedestrian access,

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also locations of water meters and backflow preventers, other um utility accessories that need to be uh in that area. Regarding contributions to public facilities, um stipulations of a

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preliminary PDP approval can include requirements to make improvements uh to public facilities. And again, public works expressed a concern regarding that county road and they did reach out to Manatee County um but did not get any more information regarding um approval

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or denial of the proposal from the county. So overall the proposed option B request has not changed super significantly. They are um providing additional open space and recreational space. Um city council must consider whether the

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request for the reduction in the buffer standards um is appropriate. Staff has received some correspondence from citizens with concerns and that's been provided to council. This is simply an overview of the history that on April 15th, planning commission voted 51 to recommend approval of the original

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option B. May 13th, city council voted 5-0 to deny. And then on May 27th, council voted 5-0 to consider this revised application at a later date. >> Uh city, >> I want to ask one question. You said receive some. I only received one. >> That's the only one I'm aware of.

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>> Received >> or you didn't share them. >> They Well, they were voicemail. >> Oh, okay. But okay, you mean from citizens complaint? >> You received just one written and then one. >> Yeah, >> I've received a few and I probably

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because it's my ward. I'm sorry I got to share. >> I assume that the emails were going to everyone and I did not share the voicemail, but I have at least five >> staff also for the previous iteration, you all received the um the commentary on that as well back when that was

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presented to you. Um, so overall, city council is encouraged to consider staff analysis, the applicant's submission and presentation and public testimony and making a motion for approval or denial. And uh, these are the suggested stipulations that we have. Though I will say that we had not seen that rendering

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prior to today. Um, and so if you do want to hold um, them to that specific enhanced uh, the pathways and the sidewalks and the recreation area and open space, that is something you would need to add to the stipulations. Thank you. >> Did you have a question?

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>> I think Barnaby and Michelle Wolf, >> looking at the staff report on page five, it talks about public works concerns

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with this design and driveways and garages. And it states in here that the proposed driveway and access for the town home units does not meet current standards. Uh would you like to speak to that or

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would you like somebody from public works to speak to that? >> I need to turn that over to public works. >> Okay, >> Colonel or Chris prepared. There's nobody here from public works that can speak to that. All right. So, that's not good that we

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don't have somebody that can speak to that. >> Well, I mean, I'm more than happy to keep reading what's in it. >> Right. Well, but I mean, again, if they can't speak to it, then the applicant doesn't have a chance to >> respond unless you want to respond to it, Mr. Grimes, or

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>> because we've all read that. So, >> yes, Mr. Mayor, I have our engineer, Matt Morris, come up to speak to that aspect of the staff report. Good morning. Matt Morris with Pape Dawson. Um I have been sworn. Um so as of now the uh any driveways that were

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shown on the plans obviously at this point in time are very preliminary. We will comply with public works requirements for driveways as far as having the grass strip separating them to be able to put water meters, backflow preventers, uh those sorts of things. Um, I think it was shown in the

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renderings that we had that there will be individual driveways going to each uh garage so that it's not just one big uh concrete uh pad in front of each building. That's not the intent. So, uh we will be complying with that. We'll be

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working with your public works staff uh as we go through uh SIP approval um as well to make sure that we meet those requirements for the separations between the driveways. >> Well, it's it's not just that. It's talking about the maximum width for the driveways. There's no brakes for pedestrians to make their way from the

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street to the home and nothing to prevent cars from double parking. Uh talks about again water meters and backflow preventers. Um with the with the solid slab driveways

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and aprons, there's no way for the utility. I'm this you tenants. And I think what we're looking at here, like I said, is just how things were depicted on a concept plan versus how they're going to be. >> But this is what we have to approve.

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>> Sure. And and that's what I'm trying to explain. As you see here on this uh proposed site plan, we effectively just have a box shown as a building, which is typical showing the outline of the building box, the building lots, and things like that. And it just shaded everything in as gray in the front. If

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we skip up to the actual plan, you'll see that there is the strip of grass between each driveway. We fully understand that the maximum driveway width is 10 ft wide. We'll be complying with that. So again, those are details that typically are worked out as you go

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through SIP and not shown on the concept plan just because the the concept plan shows that all is that gray area. We're not requesting any kind of deviations from anything that's in the code with regard to that and we fully intend to comply with what uh your public works

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staff needs us to do on those driveways. But I've never had a staff report that had this kind of information on it from public works saying that these were concerns and I've been sitting here a while >> and as Michelle said that we could

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utilize that in a stipulation that we'll comply with the driveway separation the strip for uh to allow the >> let me ask a question here. So, and we're trying to get a hold of that public works employee to get here um so they can explain it. But and when this

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happens where we're going through a change like this, would you normally have already gone through a SIP plan before that? >> No. Typically, the SIP comes after these approvals. >> That's what I thought. And so to be normal, this isn't normal because you wouldn't spend the time and effort to do

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something, but you're saying you would comply with it. Typically, we wouldn't see and and I agree with Commissioner Barnaby. Typically, we wouldn't see this kind of a comment on a concept plan. This is what gets worked out with the SIP. I assume, and if if the public

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works employee can come and explain it, I I assume they simply looked at the concept plan and said, "Hey, you're going to need to comply with this." And >> or you don't we may approve it, but if you don't comply with it, >> you don't get approved as a SIP. Correct. So, we we have to comply with it in order to get approved for a SIP.

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we have to have our SIP in order to be able to actually go out and and build the project. So, if we don't comply with that during the SIP, again, we're not asking for any variances. We're not asking for any waiverss to those uh public works driving standards. [clears throat] So, we will have to comply with the public works

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>> or not build it. And >> correct. >> Right. Mr. Perry, >> just briefly, uh the SIP, the site improvement plan, uh would come later. This isn't an assembly drawing. This is basically an entitlement drawing. It's

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the way I look at it. Um and and the SIP design requirements from the city would have to be met. Um or it doesn't get built. Uh I think it was put fairly well. That's the the short version of of what's going on here. And as many of you

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know, we have developers contact us and then contact you many times when we have to give them the bad news regarding our SIP development standards, whether it deals with separation of potable water and and and sanitary grade distances and

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things like that that are required by DP and and and things of that nature. So, they'll have to meet all engineering and technical requirements for for for a host of SIP concerns, not not just the driveways. >> Agreed 100%. We had to do that as Kyle

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mentioned in our uh opening presentation with the plan. I guess we're calling it option A in this case. That plan was previously approved. We came through had a SIP that was approved afterward. Same thing happened. we had to show city staff that we complied with all the requirements, all the development code

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requirements, meeting all the spacing requirements for utilities, for driveways, everything there. So, that's that's when the rubber really meets the road from an engineering standpoint. That's when all the design details get worked out. Again, uh as Mr. Perry pointed out, this is an entitlement plan

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that effectively shows, and you can kind of see here too on the on the previous site plan um that's up in front of you, you know, that had been approved. We didn't really show great detail either on on driveways with separations and things like that, but once we uh once we came in for SIP, that was all provided

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and and worked through with your staff. >> And I just point out one other thing, mayor, is that the process is basically the application for a building permit that would allow these structures and and and properties to be built comes in through the planning department. But planning doesn't look at any of the

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building uh code issues until it goes to public works [snorts] and the site improvement plan is approved. Then it comes back and planning goes through its its review of building code specifications. >> But if the SIP does not get approved,

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then whatever we voted on today, if it was approved, doesn't go forward. >> That's absolutely correct. Vice Mayor Coker. >> Yeah. Um, this wasn't my original question, so I still have one after that, but if we are granting the

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entitlement to build, I mean, it's kind of back to that that five pound bag. >> Yeah. >> And if you're looking at that, I mean, is there I mean, realistically, you've got to know are do you have enough space to do everything that's going to be required in that?

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>> I mean, I I realize >> the plan to meet all of that. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, do I mean, you can draw things, but is there really room with your with however wide the units are for 10 feet, whatever? It's >> Yes. I mean, we've we've looked at that.

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I mean, some of it's going to depend on the builder when they come in. Obviously, they may have garages in certain places along the frontage of each unit, and obviously, we'll have to make sure driveways line up with that. So, some of that very detailed uh, you know, side of things will come as we as

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we move forward. But yes, we again we we complied previously. This was the plan that had been approved before with option A and we have a SIP approval for that where we demonstrated that driveway separation. Everything was met. Uh and again fully intend to do that whether

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it's option A or option B that we're moving forward with uh that we'll be providing that driveway separation. Again, like I said, you can see it a little better in the in the rendering here where we've already done that. I think these driveways are still depicted probably wider than the 10 feet. So, there'll be more green space in between

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the driveways once we actually draw it in. But again, these are just graphical depictions. Um, you know, what y'all are considering today is really the the general form of the plan and the the density and [clears throat] um and the uh request for the buffer requirements,

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everything. And that's where my original question was um with regard to reducing the buffer and um having the landscape and I've had this issue uh in my ward. Uh you plant it, we get a storm, things

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disappear. What kind of g what what way how can we guarantee that it'll be maintained? >> Well, I know we'll >> typically have require HOA requirements and things over these properties. Uh I you know I'm not we have to maintain

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those buffers and plings and perhaps we can work with your staff on providing something in those state restrictions of of maintaining those >> and and and miss or vice mayor Coker that is something that's on us as a city and if we aren't enforcing our own rules that when when some when a landscaping

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plan is done if something happens in 10 15 20 years it's up to us through code enforcement to make sure that it's back to what the original plan was. And we've seen a lot of that lately um because of the hurricanes in 24 that you know and

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it's uh again it's comes down to the council ward people that are getting phone calls about things and and >> sorry I didn't pass those on but just they were just repeats from what we got >> but but and and I get them a lot and it

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comes down to you know as as Mr. Greece would say, "Do we want to be the gestapo or do we want to try to work with people?" And we have to start enforcing some of those rules and we can't let one person get away with it and the other not. So I agree with you because that's

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a very high priority >> is during this process there was >> it had to be a concrete block wall >> and then somewhere along the line and I don't know that it was anything that ever made it there was an adjustment made that didn't require that anymore.

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So the people that were promised that in the beginning to have that buffer now have no recourse. And >> well that's a different situation than something just >> well I'm looking ahead on something like this. >> But I'm saying blowing over a tree blows over

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they're required to put them back. >> Yeah. >> Let's get Councilman Coachman. >> Thank you. Just clarification. When was the SIP approved for option A? >> Uh that was last year. last year. >> Last year. Yes, ma'am.

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>> So, this council approved it. >> The so the the original the original preliminary PL the re it was a reszone to the PDP and we came before you in 2024. >> So, that was the preliminary plan which is like what we're asking for for today. That was approved back in 2024. Then

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they went through the process of of going through SIP. That involved working with your staff as well as Manatee County staff on the the connection there. uh that SAP was obtained but again as I mentioned early on our our clients continue to work through the the

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you know feasibility of the project >> the market demands and that's where we're we're seeing that shift to this product >> and another question Mr. Perry or Mr. Williams or maybe Mr. Rudicel. Um, if this would have been like that first plan, would we have ever

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seen any SIP comments or because this is kind of a second or third change that we are seeing some of the SIP comments? Because normally I I don't remember ever hearing SIP before when we've done these type of changes. >> I would think that once you approve the

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SIP, it's then designated basically to go through the planning department. No, I'm talking about if we approved >> if we when we approved option A, there was no SIP comments yet. >> Okay. Right. No, no. >> So these SI these SIP comments already

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being here is because this is a change trying to evaluate where because again I would have thought we would have had the same SIP questions if that would have came before us >> when when they do the SIP they provide cut sheets for the various >> that's after that's been approved.

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>> It's after it's been approved by council. Yes sir. Absolutely. Y >> um just for clarification, uh these are required to go to our development review committee. So that's representatives from many different departments and so that's where these comments really came from. And um >> excuse me, those departments can request

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that I include their comments in the staff report and that's that's where this came from. >> This is a rollover project so it might there's more detail on it because the questions are up here. Yeah. which I like that. But also, we shouldn't be holding that against them if it's going

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to be fixed in the SIP process because again, if this was approved today, they can't build the project without meeting those regulations, >> right? >> So, that to me is not that's not a fair bite at the apple. >> I I bring it up. I think that some of it

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comes from because it's a PDP, it is a way for city council to approve things that maybe don't perfectly meet our standards. So, it's making you aware that I think that public works is saying, "Hey, be careful. Don't approve

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this." Exactly. You know, if you all said, "Oh, but we love these driveways." I I believe because it's a PDP, you would be able to give that directive. >> Yeah. But we're not giving that directive. Correct. We're saying here's the stipulations. If they don't meet SIP approval,

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>> they don't get even though the council may have approved it, right? They're not getting that. And I'm going to go to one other thing. And again, I'm not saying either way. I'm just saying that you got to give people a fair shake at things. And if you don't, then we're not we're useless up here. >> SIP concerns are often are often cured.

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>> They're they're mitigated. >> Mitigated. >> And if it changed the whole project, then it would have to come back to us again anyway. If if SIP says no, you can't do this, then they would be back up in front of us saying we need a variance on that part. And then this council would have to decide. I'm going

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to go to two things, two properties that some of you were here, some of you weren't, but it's the >> the drive-thru on 26th Street and Manatee Avenue. the drive-through on Chick-fil-A. We made we saw issues with the drive-thru situation

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>> and we made Chick-fil-A mitigate it more than we probably should have because it has never been that. But Chick-fil-A was able to overcome it. If we don't have more heads and beds and people

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around things, we are not going to get more restaurants. We are not going to get it. So, we're conflating a couple of different things here, but sometimes you have to look at that and say, "Okay, we ask them to bring better option back and

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it's it's maybe it's there, maybe it's not, but that's what the council have to decide." >> And I think it's it's also a protection if you all expect it to look exactly this way and you go out and it gets built and then the I'm just going to say the driveways because that's what we're talking about. The driveways are not one solid uh

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>> Yeah. concrete pen flat, right? No. None of us want that. You know, this is just letting you know that this could change down the line because it's going to need to for public work safety. >> But but if we say this board council approves this and says here's the stipulations, >> right, >> and it can't get worked out, then it's mute and then go back to option

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>> A or reduce their units, >> right? Or reduce the units to try to get meet that which they could do that if they could say, well, we can only fit 88 in here >> with this SIP stipulation. >> Yes. And you know, we wouldn't be disappointed about that because it would

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be less. But let me get to Councilwoman Moore and then Councilman Coachman and then we'll >> Did you have more? I'm sorry. I was good. >> Okay. All right. >> Um >> Oh, thank you. Um Mr. Russo, I think I asked you this last time, but if you could just refresh my memory. Um in the

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event that the P that we do not approve the option B amendment to the PDP today, >> what next happens procedurally? What I'm what I'm getting at is do they get to go back and continue the process of analyzing the site and then try to

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come forth with another option that is maybe more innovative or addresses the concerns that we are putting up here. >> I mean that would be their option. I mean they would have an approved option A that they could move forward with. Um or they could come in with a new

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application similar to what they did here to propose an amendment to that PDP. >> Did they ever lose option A? >> No. >> No. >> There's no timeline on that. >> Not that I'm aware of.

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>> Wanted to make sure that was out there. So >> to if I may just explain to you guys where I'm what I was thinking about that. Um, I I think a PDP process I think it's a great tool actually in our tool belt because it lets us do things that are a little bit different or quirky um in in sites that maybe have

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some obstacles or some things that they have to get over. Um, but in its definition it it require because of that it and it and it I love that it gives a developer uh guaranteed rights. they know exa they able to walk out and know exactly what they can do there and and I

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like that kind of clarity and I think a lot of times when we're up here and someone's just asking us for just a reason there's a lot of uncertainty in that and so I feel like this is this makes this gives me confidence but um but I do think that it requires that uh bit of innovation and creativity and um

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that's kind of what I'm getting hung up on is I would like to see the site and I know that it's going to be difficult because I know that it involves not just us but also the county government. Um, but the uniqueness of this site, in my opinion, relates to the ingress and egress component, and I would like to

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see more thoughtful, you know, address of how we're going to make that happen here. So, anyways, I just wanted to let you guys know why I was asking about the procedure. >> Again, our public works is we've worked with them and that's what we gave through fire public works and all that.

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So, I don't know that, you know, there's much else out there just from that standpoint. And I mean, you you had mentioned earlier because I I drive it all the time. I've driven it since they started putting in the speed tables. I think that's going to help. But the last

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since school got out, this hasn't been bad traffic >> because it's all about school everywhere. Everywhere is all about school. And you know, you I think the speed tables might get those people that say, "Oh, I'll stay on the main road instead of cutting through." And you

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know the left turn lane when you come up to there to go left that's a way away from the stop sign. So it's there most people >> almost seems like 13th would meet like I felt are we underut utilizing 13th because at least then if they were if they were trying to leave to head west

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or north or south on >> this is what our staff directed >> told them to do. >> So we gota kind of be on the same line. >> Yeah [sighs and gasps] coach. >> Okay. I okay option A had had been

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approved ready to go right is were we at that level with option A >> okay but recalculations you know that option wasn't bringing in the bang for the buck right

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increasing the density this much and just because we can do something doesn't mean we should but increasing the density this much formulas. Fine. It's going to increase

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traffic. The infrastructure is what it is. When school is back in session, you I think you're going to see what the peak times can do to traffic. There are areas in

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Lakewood Ranch where subdivisions the are the long lines trying to get on Lakewood Ranch Boulevard or what have you and and some of the students are 45 minutes late to school.

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I just the community and the council thought, okay, the 33 or 60 whatever it was when it was option A, okay, we can live with that.

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And now we almost double it and you I I don't know what I just have concerns. [laughter] >> All right. Any other comments by the council. All right. I'm going to go ahead and open up the public comment

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>> or public hearing. Um >> yeah, I don't have we don't I don't think we need to go there. Um I'm going to open public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak even If you filled out a card, just come line up and you can speak. And if you didn't fill out a card, you can still speak. So, just please state your

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name and address for the record and then you'll have three minutes. >> Good morning, Mayor Council. Um, 2023, I thought we had resolved this issue and might have gone past I was still working for the city and I retired in 2006. So,

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this project has been in the works over 16 17 years ago. 2023 we decided 66 units, 33 duplexes. We were able I was willing to live with that. I believe an owner has a right to

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develop their property, but it has to be consistent with the neighborhood and it it has to be of course comply with the city uh PDP or ordinance. We did get after a year or so [snorts]

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I called them speed bumps. They were installed >> speed tables. >> So people don't there's two different things. The speed tables. >> I'm saying I know what you're saying. This is what I've referred to them as speed bumps. >> Uh speed tables.

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It has not decreased the traffic on 27th Street East. I still have to wait. and we have a circular drive because the traffic was so bad. Me getting to work to the city of Bradington was very very difficult

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getting out in the mornings. Even with the circular drive, it is still if I'm going to the store, I have to wait on the traffic. Sometimes I have to go south in order to go north.

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putting 106 we started with an increase with option B we reduced it to 98 units was taken from that plan.

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This council said for an exceptions an exceptional design or a great design something that was out of the norm. planning department said it's the basically the same plan. Why would we

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approve it for the residents on 27th and in that neighborhood? I would hope that like we honored Judge Smith this morning because of his work and his writing of the history here in Manatee County. I

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hope this council will think about the legacy that you are leaving not only for our generation but the generations to come. While I would like to see the development developed, I think you have to consider the existing residents

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there, the load that's going to be put on 27th, on 11th Avenue, even Hubble Road. The traffic is bad. Uh, and as far as the county widening that street, that is a great possibility. They own the rightway, but

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at the rate the county moves, when will that happen? The development is built and we've got a problem that needs to be addressed. >> Just state your name. >> I'm so sorry. Susie Copelan. >> Thank you. We all know it. >> Morning.

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>> Morning. >> Uh Dean Jorgensson. I live at 1107 Tropical Drive. uh five years ago through his representative Adam Jacobson, JB Howell made a commitment to our tropical shores uh neighborhoods uh to not con to not challenge the then

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current R2 zoning and build the 33 villa duplexes for a total of 66 units. Mr. Howell in effect shook the collective hands of the tropical shores residents. And now he wants to reig on that commitment. Why? because after his

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commitment to tropical tropical shores, he was able to, unbeknownst to our neighborhood apply for the reasonzoning of the property from R2 to PDP. A slight of hand in my opinion. I have lived in this neighborhood for 40 years. And for approximately 30 of those 40 years, I

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and a handful of other neighbor neighbors have been fighting developers who only care about one thing, the money they can make. They don't care about our communities, our neighborhoods, our homes, or our families. Mr. Howell's holdings are vast. He's headquartered on the East Coast. He doesn't live in

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Bradon. Therefore, he has no vested interest in our community other than his properties and how much he can make from them. So, I urge you to not approve option B and do not allow him to build his 98 unit townhouse complexes on that

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property, which is inconsistent with the surrounding neighborhoods. instead encourage him to keep his word and move forward with the original commitment to build the 33 villa duplexes he committed to five years ago which is consistent with the surrounding neighbors

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neighborhoods and I'd have one question when we met in May we submitted 120 signatures from the neighborhood people that were in opposition to this will they still we didn't do another petition will those still uh go be put into the

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for this. >> They're on they're on the minds of this council. So >> Okay, sir. Thank you very much. >> Good morning, Sandy Lure. I've been sworn in 3227 12th Avenue East right in the neighborhood. I'd like to address just two things. One is the traffic

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situation and the numbers that have been presented. There is no question that when you're talking about an increase of 48% of units, common sense tells us, and we've all questioned, how can it be that

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there is less traffic impact from 66 to 98 units? There is more impact. The two key things that Mr. Theo respectfully keeps presenting and his pictures are showing are peak hours. If you look at

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the IT, which is the study that he's referencing, and you look at what's happened over the last five years, traffic overall has not diminished per unit, peak hour traffic has diminished

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slightly, but the total traffic is stable and it is because of the things you're recommening, which is the change in how people have worked with COVID. more people are now hybrid, so there's less peak hour, but

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all those deliveries that we're talking about are happening midday or 4:00 a.m. in the morning, which does not help me as a resident feel comfortable about what's happening with 98 more units being going through traffic at 4:00 a.m. in the morning with people delivering or

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anything else. So, just note that peak hour is one thing. The other is the traffic per unit. The more the more density you have with attached units, there is less traffic per unit. That is

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also part of the IT, which he's he's recognized. But per unit does not mean less overall traffic. If you have more units and you add up the traffic per unit, it is still an increase in traffic. It is not logical in any fashion to think that numbers don't

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prove that 66 units versus 98 units are going to bring you more traffic. So just to level set common sense. Second is that this is a reconsideration. They've had plan A, plan B. Is this plan C? Not

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sure. Um I would ask for a reconsideration of the zoning. somewhere somehow this got changed to PDP and if they can have reconsiderations we as residents I would ask would have

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reconsideration for the zoning itself and I don't know what the process of that would be but if there's reconsideration for this that's already been approved then I would ask for reconsideration of something that seems to be without any notification to the

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residents that happened. Um, third is just a comment that we came in in greater numbers when we were all here in May. The plan hasn't changed other than two buildings being removed and eight units being removed. So, the sentiments

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then exist now. Thank you. >> All right. Anyone else wishing to speak? Anyone else wishing to speak? >> Hearing none, we'll close the public hearing. Um, anything else, Mr. root of sale that we

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need to do other than talked about it a lot. >> Typically, we give the applicant the opportunity to make a rebuttal. [snorts] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, again, Kyle Grimes, uh, and I have been sworn sworn. Um, just to address a couple of things

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and then some closing remarks. uh one that would it could be in the stipulation fully intend to comply with the maximum 10 foot um driveway widths. These are minimum 18 foot wide uh lot. So that would provide that separation just by that one stipulation. Again, uh

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if there was any thought that our plan didn't intend to do that, we want to resolve that and we do intend to comply with that requirement. Um [clears throat] when we we talk about traffic again our our traffic consultant has testified to this and provide the

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professionally accepted methods of how you calculate traffic and does show with the the product type. You know this isn't going from going to be nothing on the site to to all these units but showing that that change to these attached unit uh does result in a net

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decrease in trips. It comes down to the size of the units uh bedrooms things like that. And these are professionally accepted methods of measuring this traffic and and our traffic study and our our expert uh consultant has shown that that does result in a net decrease.

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Um this isn't just a you know a money grab that we've been indicated. Our our client has looked into the demand in the area of the market and wants to provide something that is an innovative design as as we've seen. You know, this is what

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we have approval to build today that's on your screen. And going to this with while it's more dense, it does provide more open space, which is encouraged by your PD standards. It provides more recreation, more walkability in the area, and you're able to spread the cost

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of that infrastructure across more units and result in a um more attainable, more affordable price point for these homes that are still a ownership style home. It's not a rental. So people will have ownership in their homes. They will have

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um a lot, you know, it's smaller, but they will have a lot. They will have a parcel of land. A lot of uh entry level people you see utilize these products. Some uh people that are trying to downsize and want to, you know, still have a sense of home ownership, but but something a little smaller, easier to

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take care of. And so this is a a product that is in high demand. um we we you know the the studies show our our expert testimony show this isn't going to cause an increase in impact from transportation perspective versus what has already been approved by this

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council by uh your staff and by man county staff. Um and so you know when it comes to the innovative design I you know truly believe that what we have presented with the option B is a more innovative design than what is approved today. and we we we feel that we have

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met those requirements of your PD um and we respectfully request your approval. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any questions from that? >> I I uh Yeah, go ahead. >> I just want to have a comment from what

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was just said. >> I am all on board for homeownership. I I don't know if you've ever heard me, but a lot of you know that's where my head is. Um, and I understand there's a expert on

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trips and cars and all of that. Um, and what you're offering, if it could be plopped somewhere else, probably would be just win-win. I Well, I think everyone knows where I am. >> No, I think one of the things [laughter]

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is, and I'm not, like I said, I'm not trying to sway anybody's either way, but when you look at home ownership, you look at opportunity >> for more people. We've looked at some of our affordable housing, especially in Old Manatee, and we know that they have

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not in that affordable [clears throat] housing project, they don't walk to the restaurants and eat. home ownership. You would hope that would happen more often where it would put heads in beds that are going to be able to have some more of that attainable

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>> money to go >> to keep a three keys open to keep that. I mean, that's where you're going. We just might as well say it. >> You know, we want that to be and now I saw the four sales sign up there. that is an opportunity, you know, and you hope that the more you can bring to something, and I don't love this project

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either, but I think if they decide to put option A in, it's more trips. So, and they can do that right now without whether you agree, again, I think we've got to accept the standards. We may not like it. We may not do that, but if if

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the standards aren't acceptable and we're the ones that told them where to put the roadway, you know, and it's in front of two driveways, three driveways, and it's away from the stop sign quite a bit. So, again, it's just I just think we got to really start to to judge who

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we're going to be as a city. Are we going to try to make it more >> walkable, per se? We're going to try to get more restaurants on Manatee Avenue, which when you put the pen in the map and they we're three keys is you put that pen, the water kills us.

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>> And you know, so those are the things that I'm just saying that some of these I again I don't know if just build option A and move on with it. Well, I don't think the people in the audience were clamoring, jumping for joy at option A if I remember correctly. >> No, they weren't. But it was at least it

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was it was a compromise sort >> at that time. >> Um I'm and I get it heads and beds but maybe less heads. I thought when when the the the opportunity to come back

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with a revision and I thought maybe it was made clear from not only council but from from the citizens that came up to speak that that revision would have to look like a

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revision and not just a oh let me erase this dot. Um I love the idea. I would love to see that area developed and it's going to be I'm sure whether I wanted to or not. I

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just wish we could consider a little bit more on density again. But again, I understand need. I understand um u finances, opportunity. I understand all of that.

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Um, and it's not, it wouldn't be the first time if I voted to approve this that I voted to approve something that personally I don't want. But I can't vote based on what I want. I have to

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vote on what's best for the city. And this is right smack dab in my ward. So, I do take some serious ownership to it. That's all. >> Miss Barnaby. I think, >> Miss Barnaby.

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>> Well, I pulled out the notes that I had from our last little get together, and I keep going back to the movie The Princess Bride because in that movie there's a quote

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that says, "You keep using that word, but I don't think you know what it means." And I know that I said at least once, if not maybe three or four times, significant change.

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And I don't see that in this plan. I I famously said, and people have said it back to me, that um I said, "You're trying to put 10 pounds of potatoes in a 5B sack, and now I think you're trying

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to put n pounds of potatoes in a 5B sack." I I I had really good hopes that we would come up with something that would be a little more acceptable

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to this council member and I I'm I'm not seeing it and I can't support this. >> All right, Miss Moore. >> Um thank you. I just wanted to um I

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wanted to let you guys know, but also to reiterate to the applicant that um that I actually like density. I like diversity of density within neighborhoods. And I um I think it's no secret up here that I've been trying to identify parcels within W 4 for just

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that kind of increase in density and and playing around with density and diversifying it for the purposes of benefiting us economically, especially as W four and five are so downtown adjacent and three. Um but uh what I'm

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what I'm hoping for in these circumstances is more creativity. Um so it's not adverse to the project or the goals. I think we all agree on that. Um but I similarly was hoping that um that

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the concerns regarding ingress and egress that are very particular to this site um would have been fleshed out a little bit more. Uh and so I feel like this is why I was asking procedural questions. Um you know it's it's not the end of the world. It's not it's not like

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it is, you know, completely over at this time. There's more, you know, there's more opportunity for maybe just a little bit more pencil to paper. And and I'm not an engineer, so I can't uh say that it would be easy. Uh but sometimes things that are more difficult are worth

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doing. And so I just wanted to reiterate that to me the density is not the problem. um we can we can have increased density and it's very appropriate to do that in many circumstances, but I just I have a lot of concerns about this particular site. >> Good. So, I just ask one question

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because I think that hearing what everybody's saying and I agree with all of the concept behind it, but if our public works would have said, "Okay, both entrances and exits have to be on 11th Avenue East instead of 27th Street East." I don't think the residents would

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like that any better because now, >> you know, because they could just go right through the part that they just did again. And and we've gota really, if we're trying to really do something, we've got to try to And I agree with Miss Barnaby that, you

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know, so take it what you want to the applicant, but we went from 10 pounds to maybe different opinions to seven and a half pounds, but it did wasn't enough to get us >> right >> there. But again, this is what our public works told them to do or our, you

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know, stuff. Um, the reason I'm not don't really think it's impro important to call up here because it's irrelevant until we have an approved site, you know, which again, if they build the first thing, entrance and exits are right where they are now. >> Yeah.

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>> So, it doesn't change anything, right? Maybe it maybe it lessens traffic, maybe it worsens traffic depending on time. But but you know I know that if we don't ever do anything or we always say I want this somewhere else but not in my

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backyard then we're never getting anything. >> I hope you don't think that's what I was saying but >> no but but and I want to feel with the residents I want to say but but again I remember if I remembering correctly and I'll go back and watch the video is they didn't want that they didn't want option A but they thought that was because

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again are they ever going to want anything? And I I'm I agree with them that sometimes I'm comfortable with where I live and I want it and I don't want to change it, but you know, if they right now if they decide they can build already what's there and the exit entrance will be there and the traffic will still be there. But if we could get

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a better product and a little less density because it doesn't make sense, but you got to trust the I mean sometimes in teaching what you teach doesn't make sense, but you got to get the kids. >> I always make sense, [laughter] >> not you. What's your I never thought statistics.

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>> The listener may not, >> right? I never thought statistics in college was worth it. Who cares when the train leaves a station at 200 miles an hour from De Moine and it goes to somewhere and when are they going to hit? Well, hopefully they never hit, >> but that's one of part of the stuff you

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do. So, Miss Barnaby. >> Yeah, I was going to say word problems or math problems that have letters. That's the devil. >> That is absolutely the devil. But um Mr. Mayor, at this time I' I'd like to

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make a motion for the approval of resolution 2628, which is to deny the application in front of us. >> And I don't know how much of this I have to read. Do I have to read the whole thing? >> No. If I if I could, I I would like to

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just based on the discussion and what's happened here during the hearing, I would like to modify that resolution. So, um, I'll bring that back on the next meeting, which will be the 12th. So, I think you the the motion today would

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just be a motion to deny if that's the will of the council. >> Well, it's the will of this council person that kept saying significant. Um, so my motion then would be to deny the application. >> Second by >> and I would second that.

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>> Right. Any final comments before we go to the vote? Hearing none, we'll start the vote and award three. >> Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> It's approved to deny.

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Five to zero. Guess that's how you'd say it, right? >> I know. >> All right. Thank you, >> Madame Clerk. Item 7B is the public hearing for resolution 26-60

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and this is the final assessment resolution for the Ironwood uh water main project. >> All right. Do we have any staff report or anything, Mr. Williams? >> Well, I do have uh Mr. Warren Monday here is our finance director, but this

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is the final resolution um for our water assessment uh for the assessment over at um Ironwood. Um the assessment itself uh or the resolution just provides the authority definitions and interpretations talks about the

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approving the assessment role um imposing the non-adalorm of special assessment um providing collection assessments provides for the application assessment proceeds and for uh the initial repayments um and then the

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directing directing the filing of an assessment notice. So um attached with this uh resolution was an affidavit that showed the first mailing uh that was required through the process um was completed. Currently um our finance team

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um with PFM um are doing the second required mailing um and that second required mailing I believe is due uh July 27th as stated in the resolution. Um and that second mailing is a first class mailing as well, but it also what

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that mailing does is give residents the prepayment um option. So instead of having the full assessment on their tax bill and and essentially a subsequent lean um they have the option to just go ahead and pay the bill up front in full. Um so obviously it saves any kind of

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financing costs and so and so forth. So, um, they are currently on track to have that completed by the July 7 or I'm sorry, the July 27th, uh, due date. And so, um, I believe I mean, I think I've covered everything as far as the

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assessment goes. And >> it's for the assessment. Um, if this goes on the tax bill, Mr. Williams, >> are we going to have a tax collector fee for putting this on the tax bill? >> We will. Yeah. And that's that's all

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part of that. Right. So the Yeah. All of the fees associated with this project, not not just with the construction, >> um are calculated in that assessment amount. Correct. >> All right. [snorts] And then um real quick, why don't you give us an update on the project real quick?

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>> So real quick, the project actually is going really well. I don't want to jinx it, so Oh, no. Go ahead. Knock on wood, but um we've uh Landmark Services is our contractor. They're doing a great job. they've been, you know, in contact with any residents that have any questions.

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Um, I spoke with Miss Milton yesterday and we only had two inquiries on this current resolution. So, I think the residents feel very informed as to what's going on. U very comfortable with what's going on, projects going well. We had one uh minor hiccup that Mr. Perry

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and I um we were able to cover with Landmark Services. So um >> and we do have representation out in the audience here. Did they want to say anything or come forward with >> Yes, please. >> Public hearing.

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>> It is a public hearing. The property manager. >> We'll open We'll open the public hearing. Anyone wishing to speak? This is the client so or whatever we want to say. >> This is our citizens that we're we're working to >> working with them. At this please state

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your name and address for the record. >> Good morning. My name is Carlos Hernandez. I live at 3620 Ironwood Circle and uh I also represent, you know, the U Ironwood community as the president, you

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know, of the A. And I want to thank you, you know, for helping us going through, you know, this project, you know, and uh it is something that we needed, you know, to to get done. Um I only have one very minor you know question you know u

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it is on the um the letter you know that we all received you know estates an amount of 4 million $288,000 and um based on the information you know that I have received you know so far you know in looking at the uh contract you know that is in place you know with

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landmark it calls you know for 2,800 so I just wanted to know you you know what uh um what type of additional cost you know are expected you know beyond the original contract uh because just like

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you said you know um uh the project is going very well I haven't received any notices you know that could cause you know a significant increase in in the cost you know and uh I'd like to hear some more you know how >> sure >> how those numbers you know actually came

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to life >> absolutely [clears throat] so we're in public hearing right now. So, let's >> once you sit down, he'll explain it. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Finish all your questions. >> Yeah, that was pretty much it. You know, I think the u the selection process, you

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know, to select, you know, landmark um it was very good. You know, they're very competent and capable, you know, people. We have kept you know a very good open channel of communications you know with the managers you know from the city you know and landmark you know and and

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that's it you know that's again Carlos you know from I don't circle >> all right thank you appreciate it >> anyone else wishing to speak anyone else wishing to speak >> mayor I'd also point out for the record that Miss Treor's in the back who's the uh community manager from Ian community

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association >> right all right we'll close the public hearing. Mr. Williams. >> Thank you, Mayor. So, the uh the number that's in the resolution and it was on the repayment amount um was actually provided by PFM, who is our financial adviser. What they do is they calculated

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not only the construction costs, but there's also there are legal costs associated with this. Um there are their fees as well um to provide the financial advice. And then they're going to service the payment process from start

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to when we when we start in November to 20 years from now. So it calculates all of those costs associated with this entire entire process, >> interest, >> interest and everything. So um we will I mean obviously you know in construction

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just in that piece alone you know when you open the ground you you hope that the asbuilts are what is you see. So we all know that that's not always the case and so obviously there is a little bit of a buffer in there for us to have um you know a contingency in the

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construction side as well. Ultimately um the residents can rest assure that the actual cost of the project along with the actual servicing of of the assessment is going to be what they're assessed. So the 4.2 I would say is on

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the higher side but that gives us some flexibility for the unknowns as well. We had given them some numbers >> in meetings we went to approximately. Are we still at those numbers? >> It's a little higher than that now. Yeah. >> A little. So they can

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>> I don't I don't have the exact numbers right now. Do do you know the I mean it's I believe it was less than 300,000 um is was what the differential was. Um again, you know, we're not going to charge them anything that isn't a cost associated

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with the project. Um, and quite frankly, none of the city costs are associated with that. Um, they could be. We didn't feel that was the right thing to do. You know, we're trying to to do the right thing for the community. And the costs that that are incurred with the project specifically are going to be the ones

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that are assessed to the property owners. >> I just think a lot of it's more knowledge than >> sure it is what it is. But if we knew that they were paying X number and now they're paying >> $20 more or whatever it is, >> they want to know at least up front. and and honestly we don't know that today.

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You know, like I said, we'll have the exact uh when the project is done. >> M Barnamey, do you have any questions since your award? >> I'm just very grateful that this council wanted to step up and help the neighborhood out because as we've said

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in the past, um this project is a massive project. It was a private water system that was put in by the developer back in the late 60s and 70s is what I'm going to say because I can re I can remember when they opened Ironwood.

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>> Um, but you know, they they were having trouble finding even a contractor to talk to them or a a bank to even consider loaning them money for this this type of thing. >> Find the project to do repairs anymore. >> Right. So, it's I just I want to again

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thank the mayor, thank the council, thank the staff for everything that you all have done because when I got back on the council and they told me, well, we need to look at having this done, I was like, uh, because it

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just seemed like such a massive undertaking, but I think everything has been going I don't want to jinx it. >> Please don't. [laughter] So, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop talking now. >> Is that a motion to approve? >> I will happily and make the motion to

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approve resolution 2660. Sir, >> thank you. >> I'll second it. >> Seconded by Miss Vice Mayor Coker. Any further discussion? Start the vote and award four. >> Yes. >> Five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes.

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>> Approved. Five to zero. >> And Mr. Mayor, can I make just a real quick uh kind of accolades? I want to thank uh Miss Warner Monday and Miss Melton for their uh continued navigation through the assessment process. They've been phenomenal to work with. And then on the construction side, obviously our

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public works division with Don Demonia, Kim started the, you know, the whole the whole uh design and so forth. So, I just want to thank everybody involved and then as well as Carlos and Molly. I mean, they've been truly a great partnership. So, I just want to thank you. very good friends with the golf pro

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over there at Ironwood Pinebrook and the staff. And so if there was things really going down that we're unhappy with, we'd hear because the majority of their golfers are play there, live there. >> And um they're impressed with the landmark and and the way they've kept

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them up to date as well as kept the roads clean as possible when you're doing open cuts. and they're looking forward, you know, as we go to get the paving done that they'll have brand new paving around the circle. >> Thank you, madame clerk.

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>> Item 8A is from the event re review committee, Manatee River Turkey Trot. >> I have an easy one for you. Good morning, Kelly. with the event review committee. >> We're bringing an application before you today. It's this event sponsor is the

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Big Bill Foundation, which we've done events with them before. It's always been a good experience. They want to do the Manatee River Turkey Trot on 11:26, which is Thanksgiving Day. This is a firsttime event. Um, it's going to start on the other side of the bridge at the

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Marriott. It's going to come over Dodto Bridge, do a turnaround on Third Avenue, and go back. So the event review committee has reviewed this. They did make a few recommendations on the site plan and it was adjusted for safety purposes but uh the event review committee is recommending approval as

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submitted. Uh they have an expectation of 1,500 possibly up to 2,000 runners. So these events um I was with kind of the early planning over with Palmetto >> um in the Palmetto Marriott um and it

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was brought to them by Fit to Run which does events in Sarasota, Benderson, St. Pete and those events are drawing three and 4,000 people. So what they're trying to do is still have another event which because of the Palmeta Marriott having

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all the parking and um working with DOT which we checked with and we can get the bridge closed and it's early Thanksgiving morning so the traffic is not bad to begin with and it was really something that that I threw my support behind with the group um because they're

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trying to say let's spread it out a little bit more and and then also >> with the way our riverwalk is the Palmetto is trying to do what they're doing is it's collaboration with the two cities. So I think it's a great opportunity for us >> and this event will require three approvals. It will require FDOT city of

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Palmetto which uh approved it the other day and we've got recommend you know we've got the documentation for that and then it will require your approval as well. >> It's over by 10 o'clock or something. They think >> they anticipate 10 a.m. is the cut point. >> So the majority of us probably won't

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even be up, right? >> Kidding. [laughter] I know. I know it's a quick thing, but but it was a collaboration with Palmetto Braden. >> You're not going to fry turkeys over there. >> Oh. >> Oh, okay. All right. >> The parking was the biggest because they

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would have at one point wanted to try to start it in downtown Bradon, right? >> But we felt that the civic center and the Palmetto Marriott had the parking better to come this way and go back that way. >> Well, and Marriott's going to host all the outside activities and all that good

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fun stuff. So, >> so think it's a great thing. Any comments, questions, >> Mr. Mayor? >> Yes, ma'am. M. >> I'll be happy to move for approval of the permit application by the big bill Foundation for the Turkey Trot as presented to us today. >> Second.

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>> Second by Vice Mayor Coker. Anything else? Hearing none. We'll start the vote in Ward five. >> Yes. >> One. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. >> Yes. >> And four. >> Yes. >> Approve. [cough] Five to zero.

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>> All right, Madame Clerk. >> Item 8B, excuse me, [clears throat] is going to be pulled from the agenda today and it'll be brought back on August 12th. But I do believe Mr. Williams has one new item for you all. >> We got an email early this morning

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>> or late last night. Har look at it. Yeah, exactly. Um, >> so what I'd like to do first is uh invite Mr. Eckles to come on up. >> Yes, that's you, Chris. So, what I had emailed uh last night um

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was a uh a quote and a a work assignment for Woodruff Stones um to install a 400 linear foot 18 in ductal iron water transmission main on the north side of 8th Avenue between Second Street West

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and Third Street West. So, the reason we've been working diligently to get this to council um is obviously that's the same area that our uh police station is being built. So, working in conjunction with NDC

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um Woodruff and then our staff is is trying to balance all of this. One of the benefits, and I don't want to steal anything from Chris, but one of the benefits is we have a developer that is going to open the road already. So the city's able to take um the

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opportunity to save some some cost in this installation and put the line in while the road is open. Um so Chris, so twofold. One thing is I wanted to have Chris kind of introduce Chris to council so everybody knows who he is. Chris is

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our engineering manager. Um, we have uh moved our previous engineering manager, Miss Clayback, to more of a strategic role with her experience and knowledge of the city and the vision to try to work with Mr. Perry, myself to kind of guide the city uh utility wise and and

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and traffic and all other facets that we deal with. Um, and Chris is now our engineering manager, has done a a great job with starting leading the team. So, I wanted to kind of introduce Chris so council knew who he was and then give him an opportunity to speak about this this project as well as the project

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manager. >> Thanks for the introduction. >> Very welcome. >> So, uh as my first grilling I'll say um we're looking at saving 30% on this particular water line. It's a I think uh you know as far as engineering and and

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what the city needs you know this is part of a a project we call the high service station uh transmission upgrade essentially you know we have a single point of failure at our pump station and that that failure is kind of tied with that 24inch line that we moved as part

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of that police station construction. Um, we've identified that as an opportunity to to to move water in a more reliable way. Let's not put all our eggs in one basket. So, so we designed we have been

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designing a project with Jones Edmonds. It's about a $3 million pipeline project. It's going to go to the east and to the west. Um, and and the the part we're talking about today is the third uh street connection. It goes from from second to third. It's right south

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uh of the police station, 8th Avenue, not 8th Avenue Drive, but 8th Avenue, right where NDC is looking to pave. So, uh like Lance said mentioned, the the opportunity here is that the ground is going to be dug, the contractors there.

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We're simply asking, let's put in another water line and and that water line will be taken out of the $3 million project with Jones Evans. So, so that my rough, you know, my rough estimate right now is about a

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about a $110,000 save by making this move. >> So, and it's part of our face it and fix it as we're trying to go through and have redundancy as well as work smart with the money that we're getting.

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>> And I think it's a a good plan and opportunity to to uh do something when we we got the opportunity, not until something breaks. Mr. Perry, >> I I think it's really creative and should be applauded by,

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you know, the administration at least as it relates to um what Kim and and Chris have been able to come up with in this because when Chris talks about a single point of failure, uh that is that is a major major distribution sign and we need some redundancy and fallback position because if there is a failure

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on that line, it it supplies is it twothirds of the city about with water? 100%. >> It is 100%. I thought there was another valve. Yeah. Can you So, nobody has water. 16,000 users. U there's a game plan to create a redundancy, a safety

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net with this high service system and a loop really which we would valve off so that if there was a failure, we can shut down and isolate that system but provide water to everybody else. So, it's a very thoughtful um successive planning type

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type initiative. The reality is is that that property that is on 8th 8th Avenue now, you may remember it as an unimproved road. It was it's platted, but it really is for the most part an unimproved road. And to the south of it

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is where Mr. Manfold had his his mini homes, I guess, is the best way to put it. Um, it was platted long ago. I think the width on those lots is about 45 feet. It's crazy. Exactly. >> Mr. Manfold basically sold that or his company sold that to a new developer.

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The new developer decided to buy it without having utility service there, which I've never known a developer to do if there wasn't some plan. So, he has to put utility service in. The utility service is going to cost basically about 547,000.

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Somehow the CRA has supported that and they're paying about 75% of that for development. The good news is we get development, we put it on the tax roll, the property gets developed finally. [clears throat] The kicker is is that he's going to be in the road anyway to

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pay to do his utility development. The paving on the road is part of the police department's new police department budget. And so NDC said, "Look, we don't want to be held to have to pave that road until you guys are done because we don't want to pave it and then have to

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open it up, open cut, put this utility in and everything else. So it kind of solves three problems in an efficient sequence manner that is cost effective that provides fallback uh sustainability for our system."

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>> Vice Mayor Coker, >> thank you. >> Thank you. >> I don't know who to ask. Will this will this delay uh the completion for the police department at all? >> No, not at all. >> And that's that's why the urgency to get it before council today is so we don't do that. We're trying to prevent that.

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Exactly. >> There is there's this one thing that's kind of like a weird deal that's technical, but you know, the this supply chain issue for the ducted iron. If we had had it done before, uh wouldn't have had enough in their inventory. And what what I'm told it's uh it's a few weeks

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out at least several. And we're looking at PVC options. >> That's right. So the the savings I mentioned was for the ductal iron. So if we transition to a to a C900 like a BBC product, it'll actually be it'll be more savings. More savings. >> That's right. That's right. >> All right. Got a lot of information on

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that. Chair will entertain a motion to approve. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Move to approve. And I'm >> She's not on there. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Whatever Lance >> What exactly is it? [laughter] Yeah. whatever Lance wants. >> The installation of 500 linear feet.

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>> I think it would just be a motion to to authorize the administration to uh uh spend the $277,000 >> exe and execute the contract. So move [laughter] >> motion by Miss Coachman, seconded by Mr.

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Schustler. >> Any other discussion? Hearing none, we'll start the vote in ward one. >> Yes. >> Two. >> Yes. >> Three. Yes. >> Four. >> Yes. >> And five. >> Yes. >> Five to zero. Thank you. >> Great. >> Thank you, Mr.

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>> Thank you, Chris. >> Good job, engineer. >> All right, Madame Clerk. >> We do not have any unfinished business on the agenda today. >> Council reports. We'll start in W one. Thanks. Um, first I think this is our

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first meeting since uh our big 250 celebration and I just want to give kudos to so many um from the top down. Mayor, I know this was a personal um project for you and you put a lot of

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hard work into it. So, thank you for your leadership. and then uh public works, law enforcement, fire. I mean, just the the the number of hands that went to put that together and it was such a success and so much fun. Um I I can't thank you

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enough and uh applaud the efforts. I also want to make special attention to I love how Palmetto and Bradon are now working together because I think working together as a team makes us so much stronger. Yes, we still have our going

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back and forth, especially when you talk about football. But, um I I just I really like the feeling of of working together now with the city of Palmetto. And uh I think that's due to your leadership and uh I I'm glad it's being

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fostered. Um but it was a great event. It was a great celebration of who we are and uh you know, here's to the next 250. But um let's see. >> I won't be here. [laughter] >> You never know. Uh let's see. I know I

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had some other stuff that I was um I think that's all right now that I have. Oh, one other thing. Um, and this has is regard to some of the um current elections going on. And I've been getting some phone calls about people who are getting text messages that are

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saying that their party is being changed on them. And that is completely false. No one can change your party registration. So, don't start being worried if you're able to vote in the primaries. Um, and I think the word needs to get out to people. They're

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being a little misled on that. Um, but that's all. >> Thank you. >> Shenanigans. >> Ward two. >> Shenanigans. >> I too want to join in on the uh the the wonderful time we had on the 4th

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of July here. It was absolutely spectacular. I do think it's wonderful that that we're able to join with the city of Palmetto and and to do these kinds of things together. And I also just to

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reiterate what Councilwoman Coker said, the the city staff that worked so hard to pull everything together and to be there and to make sure that things went well that day, just fabulous job. Fabulous job all

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around. Uh this Friday at Lee Comfield at the Marauders game, it will be Christmas in July. And we're working also with Realize Bradenton to have some activities there for the kids. Um I don't know that it's going to feel

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like Christmas because it is in July, but we we have we have fervent hope that uh we can it'll get just a little cooler that day. So please come out and and join us. What also what >> you can have sledding?

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>> I don't think there's sledding. I do not believe there's sledding this time, but there there's going to be activities for the kids. Um, want to offer my sincerest uh condolences to the

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families of Ernest Field Senior and Mr. Ronnie Grubs, two people in our community that has been in our community for a long time and uh wish their families strength and peace.

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and I recently had the opportunity to go out to uh Madora, North Dakota. My husband is wanting to do some volunteer work with the National Parks Foundation and we were invited to join some of some

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other uh like-minded individuals out at the National Park there and to also see the open the newly opened because it opened July 4th, the newly opened theore Roosevelt Presidential Library. Now it is on

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there's if you you can't go there to go someplace else because it's in the middle of not a lot of place. Um and Chief Kramer knows exactly what I'm talking about because he has been to uh that park, the national park there in

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the painted canyon. But it is absolutely beautiful and it is phenomenal what our national parks can can show us. Um

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saw a hundred bison and the the wild feral horses that are there. It's just absolutely amazing. But going through the presidential library, I was reminded of a quote by the Roosevelt. And particularly in this day

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and age when we've got um an election going on and we have social media and we have uh I think we all are familiar with the term keyboard warriors.

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So I just wanted to share this. This is a quote from the Roosevelt. It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where their doer of deeds could have done them better. The critic

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belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who airs, who comes short again and again because there is no

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effort without error and shortcomings, but who does actually strive to do to do the good deeds, who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends s himself in a worthy cause. Who

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at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement. And who at the worst, if he fails, or at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know

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neither victory nor defeat. >> Thank you. And if somebody thinks I'm talking to them, I probably am. [laughter] >> Moving on, >> thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, Miss Barnaby,

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that was uh a very good uh precursor um in the spirit of our country, our 250th and our election season. And as we move toward the election season, uh to continue on with what you were saying,

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uh there's obviously and naturally a great deal of conversation about our city and the work that we do. Um healthy discussion is part of our democratic process and people will have differing opinions. Um what I think is important and the mayor has mentioned uh and

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others uh several times in terms of differing opinions. I think is important is that we remember the dedicated professionals who come to work every day to serve the residents of Bradenton. Um I'd like to begin by thanking our city staff, our police officers,

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firefighters, and our first responders uh for their continued hard work, especially during what is always a busy summer season. uh whether it's public works, uh utilities, building, code enforcement, admin, police or fire,

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these are the people that are working every day, often behind the scenes, to keep our city operating safely and effectively. Um the work that they do isn't always easy and it isn't always visible. Um, regarding the keyboard

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warriors, processes we have in place exist to protect our neighborhoods, preserve property values, promote public safety, and maintain the quality of life that our residents expect and deserve. Over the past couple of weeks, I've had the opportunity to spend time throughout

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our city and my neighborhood speaking with residents, business owners, and neighborhood leaders. As is often the case, our conversations aren't centered on politics. They're about everyday issues. Neighborhood maintenance, infrastructure, responsible development,

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public safety, and making sure Bradon continues moving in the right direction. Those conversations remind me that local government works best when it's accessible, responsible, and willing to listen. I appreciate everyone who's reached out, stopped me in the

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neighborhood, or invited me to discuss uh concerns even when I haven't wanted to confront some of those issues at time. Uh they make us all better and help us make better decisions. I also want to encourage everyone to continue supporting our local businesses during

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these summer months. Our restaurants, shops, and small businesses are an important part of what m makes Bradon a special place. Thank you, >> Miss Moore. >> Um, I don't have too much um for you

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guys. We're just back from summer. It always feels like I've dropped off the face of the earth during summer and then uh catching up. But um I uh I wanted to um let you all know that I'm attending the Florida League of uh C's annual

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conference uh in mid August. And I anticipate that that meeting, that conference will be heavily um educational regarding proposed amendment three. I will of course bring back materials and share them with um Miss uh

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Melton and and she can share as appropriate. Um I know we're not permitted to advocate, but we are permitted to educate. So hopefully I will come back with materials for everyone. Um, I wanted to uh I wanted to

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also I know the I just recently heard from my River Isles liaison uh regarding the tree board service and he's very delighted and excited that the mayor will be attending the next tree board committee meeting and he did ask me though before he let me know that the mayor was attending that and shared his

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excitement. He had asked me to just pass on to everyone that they are still in need of other members. So, if you know anyone in the community that is willing to serve on the tree board, um he's very passionate and I appreciate that about him. So, yay that you will be attending

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and supporting them in their work. And then the final thing that um that I just wanted to mention real quick was on the on the heels of um I'm so sorry. Uh I'm gonna forget Eckles. Um Mr. Eckles. Yes, Chris. I didn't want to say Chris, but Mr. Eckles uh

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presentation. I I am excited to see us being proactive when it comes to trying to take opportunities when we can, you know, as there's a lot of stuff going on I feel like in W 4 and it's always disappointing when you think that you can't accomplish two things at one time

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because of funding sources and all that sort of thing. So kudos to engineering for for being opportunistic and jumping on opportunities when they can u make more than one thing happen at the same time. And I believe that that's it. >> Thank you, Miss Coachman. Summertime's

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almost over. >> Oh my goodness. Why did you have to remind [laughter] um I definitely want to say ditto several things that have already been said. Um, M. Councilman Shusler that

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this staff, first responders, everybody, every city employee, they are the friendly city. I mean, I can't you can't even say thank you. Thank you. Thank you enough.

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Uh, let's see. Well, welcome back, too, Chief and Chief. It seemed [laughter] like the last meeting y'all were here. on vacation. >> Good to have you back. Vacation was one and you were busy studying, learning a

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lot and all that stuff, >> but great to have you back. Uh, wow. We had some great discussion and in fact I mean all our meetings seem to be very um informative, passionate and and and all of that. And

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I think that's what makes a great governing body. Um, war five is definitely alive. We since last meeting there was Junth and baseball games and I

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threw out first pitch. I hadn't thrown a baseball since last year, [laughter] [gasps] which is one reason why I only stand about two feet from Marty when I throw it. But, um, looking forward to this Friday. Um, I sadly I'm babysitting

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that night. I have four of my five granddaughters. Um, so I won't be able to be there because ain't no way I'm traveling to the game with all of them. [laughter] Um, >> so I will drop off the eedrin to you [laughter]

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>> if that's all you got. >> Oh, well [laughter] children's benadryil. >> Abs. Yeah, I'm going to come up with something. But um so I know so much has happened, but right now

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we need to start thinking about school will be back in session. Look out for those little crumb crunchers because they big ones too. They will be out in full force. And I'm I'm afraid to say maybe I should knock on wood before I

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say it. Uh this summer was calmer than I thought. Thank you, Chief. [laughter] Because we have some big crumb crunchers that like to crunch. In fact, some of them may have been on Riverwalk um a week or so ago. In fact, I saw them

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walking. I didn't know where they were going, but I next time I see a big group rock walking down my street heading north, I'll let you know. Um, I don't have a whole lot of uh to say for now, but just thank you to all of

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you that claim uh working for the city and all of us that are up here. Um I I just I appreciate you all. I really do. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> All right. Um let's start out with July

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4th. Obviously, it's been talked about, but but that event was was spectacular. Obviously, working with Palmetto, uh, Manatee County, and the TDC, and really up in the fireworks trying to work on what we're going to do for next year because the fireworks were

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definitely spectacular. And, um, Tiffany, you know, we kudos to everybody else, but Tiffany kept a lot of the social media going and and that just turned out perfect. And then also with some of the social media, you guys are very kind in using the word keyboard

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warriors because most of them are keyboard cowards. And I have no problem saying that when they want to criticize us without ever coming to a meeting and come to a meeting and and even we have started responding to some of it to get

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the facts out. And I think that's very important. But even when you get the facts out to some things, they'll turn around and say, "Well, well, it doesn't matter." And I and not even us, some of the comments, people are challenging them to go to meetings. Well, I'm not going to go to a meeting. Well, be a

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keyboard warrior. Get the information and then come back at us and say, "Why you think we're wrong? We can agree to disagree, but it's frustrating. And it's not frustrating to where we're going to stop doing it, but we are a very transparent government. We, you saw it with our insurance stuff today. Normally

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those items would have just been on the consent agenda, but it was important to bring that up. So if the employees want to see it and what we've done, you have a committee of 10 that is working hard on that. But that's the transparency part. And I challenge anyone to come to

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these meetings and get get your question up open and then we will answer it. And again, we'll try to we try to work together. So, um, and that's not just to me, it's to everybody up here that gets that criticism when they don't even know what you're doing. >> But it's easy to be even though you're

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not faceless on Facebook because people can see your face sometimes. Sometimes they put these quirky pictures, but um, you know, there's they can put out whatever they want. They don't have any consequences per se, but eventually I think there will be some consequences if

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people start keep doing what they do. Um, opinions are fine, but when you start criticizing people and putting some other things out there, I think there's going to be some things that'll come up in the future. Um, thank the CRA. I mean, July 4th, obviously was a

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great event. CRA over the years has put in the field turf on Rossy Park. We got the shade covers that made that event unbelievable because you could actually sit in the lawn and have shade until the sun went down. So, it was it just and

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they just opened the day before. Um they're going to be do some repairs on that, but just a great thing. City park, I mean, drive by there, there's light poles up. It's going and so it's it's >> right on schedule and they're getting done and those meetings every week are fun to listen to. Um then talking about

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Ronnie Grubs, um when I was eight years old, we moved into our family business on 26th Street. Ronnie Grubs and Jenny and Dixie. Dixie and Ronnie and their two daughters lived right behind the funeral home there. And I was like Ronnie's son

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growing up because I mowed his yard. But only reason I wanted to mow his yard so I could swim in the pool that was there. But but you know, it was worth it at the time. He still paid me, took me dove hunting. He when I got out of college, he bought me my first suit. So it was a lot of things with with Ronnie. And of

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course, if you knew Ronnie, boy, get over here. Boy, come over. I didn't tell you to mow that yard, but I said, "Well, Mr. Grubs, can I swim in your pool?" And he, you know, he's, "Yeah, sure." But but just those fun you think of those memories. And Ronnie, you know, lived a great life and did a lot of great things

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for this community as a state trooper and then later in life started as insurance company and just really was there for Kuanas and the public and and things that always were helping kids. So, um, and Dixie still alive and and Barbara's still alive. Um, and those are

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two fine ladies and, uh, just sometimes it's heck to get old. Um, because life doesn't always treat you well when you get older and you stay. But, but they're you're doing good and and pe I remember big thing. There was a big wreck on the interstate many many years ago and it

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was a really bad accident and Dixie was in the car. Innocent person was trapped in her car for hours. Nobody thought she was going to live and now she's 90 years old. That was probably 35 years ago. But you just think of all those things that when when you talk about Ronnie and growing up and then others out there,

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but just a great man. Um and then also the passing of Bob Bowling [cough] is a generational person in this town. His son's the athletic director now at Manatee High School. Bob was at Palmetto, Braden River, graduated from Manatee back in a long time ago. But, you know, you just think of the people that were always there for the children

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and that's what's important and that's why City Park and what we're doing at City Park, I think, is going to change the dynamics of that neighborhood. And so, that's how important this council has supported that. So, thank you very much. And, uh, I could go on, but I think we did some great things today. I

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think some of the things that no matter what we do and the way we talk and I may talk more on certain projects, but it's because I think we're all working to try to the economic development of this city is so important and how we get there can be different ways, but how we can make

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it that much better. So, um, appreciate what everybody does and the support through all of the things we're doing, the staff from everybody all the way down is great. So, Miss Singer, did you want to come up for a moment? >> [cough] >> Um, Greg Dong and I are participating in

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um advanced air mobility task force which is uh being run by the Sarasota Manatee Airport Authority. also has participation from the MO and from uh Florida Department of Transportation as well as all the communities in Sarasota

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and Manatee County. Um, [snorts] and just to explain what this is, it's uh looking at alternate forms of transportation uh ma mainly uh vertical aircraft that can uh similar to a

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helicopter can take off vertically uh to transport both cargo and people. Um they are looking at um basically focusing on the central part of the state, sort of the uh I4 corridor. Um they have a

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testing facility in Auburndale which is about halfway between Orlando and Tampa. Um we're just um in talking discussions at this point. I don't know where it will lead. Um, but I expect that some of it will have something to do with

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planning and zoning and and where we may allow sort of the helport type of uh facilities. Uh, I know there's interest in coming from hotel facilities and other resorts. Um, and what the nature of the transportation would be, what

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kind of noise these um these make, I I I couldn't tell you at this point. Um, we're still just in the early parts of the conversation. uh as part of it, they're asking for any kind of corrections or changes to the um theou uh by this next week. And I apologize I

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couldn't get it on the agenda. Um we just had our first meeting with them um this last week. Um so u my intention is to ask Mr. Perry to sign theou if there's no objections to it. So I'm passing it out so that you all can have a look at it and if you read through

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that and it really is just talking about communication. We're not signing up for anything at this point. Um, and I'm not aware that there's anything at the state level that's going to mandate that we allow these types of facilities, but I think, you know, it could uh come to that eventually that we'll have to make

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some kind kind of zoning compromises um to to look at these types of facilities and what kind of opportunities it provides to the community. So, I just wanted to put that out there for today. And if you communicate um with Mr. Perry on anything any objections or concerns

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you may have about theou um he'll communicate that to us and we can pass that on. >> Yeah. And it's something we've talked a very little bit about at the MO but the state has said some things and even at the um MOAC meeting I'll be there next

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week so I'm sure this will be a topic again that uh it's it's really looking at that even for private use at some point where you may want to do it. So, you talk about mobility, >> you know, we may have less traffic because I'll be able to land in my front

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yard and uh or or you'll be able to call for a taxi with a driverless helicopter. So, it'll be all drone oriented and all of that. So, um if they speed through a school zone, do they still get a ticket? >> Yep. Yep. [laughter] >> We'll get the tag.

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>> So, it's it's a lot of a lot of whatifs and you know the Jetsons per se, but it's it's coming out. you know, they're going to see how it really works. And I I think that some of the parts like if you fly to an airport and you want to get to downtown Bradenton and then you

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would get on their, you know, taxi of some sort, you know, but where are all these infrastructure things going to happen? So, I think it's a long way down the road, but I think there's going to be some test areas. >> Interesting. >> That will happen. But I'd like to order my lobster from Orlando and get it here.

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Maybe that's the way to get it. Stop driving to Orlando. So, all right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anything else, Miss Singer? [laughter] You sure there's nothing else you want to announce or say or >> Oh, good. >> Yeah. >> Somebody leaving us? Isn't somebody

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leaving? [laughter] >> Uhuh. >> Aren't we having somebody retire? Move on. Take another job somewhere. You told me about Mr. Perry. Okay, moving on. >> [laughter] >> Everybody's gonna be >> everybody. >> All right.

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>> Every staff member just sat up about two inches straighter. [laughter] >> Chief, >> thank you. >> Appreciate it. Um, so yeah, I was gone for a little while, 10 weeks plus. >> Um, I appreciate uh the mayor for

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allowing me to go. Um, I said I had faith in my department to run itself with help from me from afar and that worked. Um, while I was at National Academy, I'll I'll give you my class rundown and these are graduate level classes through the University of

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Virginia. So, I'm halfway to a master's degree from UVA, which doesn't stink for the matter for that point. um leadership, culture and influence, managing the atrisisk employee, physical training, which was high intensity interval training workouts, um which

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kicked my butt. Um conflict resolution, managing the law enforcement image and critical incident leadership. Um the one thing about the managing the atrisisk employee, we had to do a presentation during our class and turn in a paper. Um

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the presentation uh was on some type of situation. I did mine on Zack Butterfield. Friday is the one-year anniversary of his passing. Um, one of the things we found out in that class, there were 40 of us, 40 plus.

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Half the people did a presentation on themselves as recognizing from being in the class, from being there talking with peers, experienced peers, you know, near the mid to end of their careers, uh, that they were the ones that they

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realized, uh, had issues. Um, and it was really powerful to hear their stories that it's given me now because I remember them. Um, but yeah, it was uh it was memorable um time in my life. It

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was really greatly appreciated. Um, I thank Maria for putting up with me being away. That wasn't easy. Um, but one of the other things, uh, one of the other classes, managing the law enforcement image. Um there's some message bases that they

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taught us to touch and it's policy public safety uh call to action and uh kudos. So in doing that today uh the policy we we talk about about things changing and whatever we have to modify

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public safety you all helped with that today in your uh approval of a couple things. Um, first was the uh the grant for our uh safe streets initiative

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basically um and helping pedestrian safety in the county because Many County continues to be one of the worst for pedestrian and bicycle safety in the state. Um, so we can help enforce certain areas including one of the intersections actually targeted as a bad

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one is 75th a manatee which we continue to have a homeless issue with out there. So we're going to make sure we hit that pretty hard with enforcement. Um the consent agenda item also for the uh CAD RMS um that will go towards improving

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our officers uh ability to get to calls so when we get there having the information we need. Uh, also that $500,000 is money that we can take out of the budget, you know, that we can won't need to have the city pay for or our taxpayers pay for in that sense. Um,

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for that there's kudos. There's kudos to uh the lobbyists in Tallahassee for getting us our stuff done through the Southern Group. They had a lot to do with it. um for the mayor and the council's uh relationship with our uh

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legislative bodies in Tallahassee and the governor as well. Uh but also to uh Jeremy Giddens who is a grant writer extraordinaire and really is uh I think the city's benefiting from that as well from what he's been able to do. Um thank

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you uh specifically because sooner we can get out of this building, sooner you all can try to get out of this building. Thank you for approving the water line change today that'll help uh move things along with our our build. There's another gas line we got to talk about some other time, but that's a different

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story. Um but yeah, so I just uh I want to make sure I I touch those bases when I talk to you all. But um I really do appreciate everything that you all mean to us and uh what we can do for you. Please let me know anytime.

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>> Thanks, Chief. here. >> So, there was a little excitement the other day around city hall. We've got a new drone program >> and uh I'm blaming BPD for shooting it down right before it got over city hall. >> No, that's >> but I I can't I can't prove that yet.

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But anyways, we were we were working on that. Once again, grant funds at work um and we plan to put that into good use um and work with PD and their their drone um as well. I'm sorry. Did you find it? >> We did. >> Okay, good. >> Literally, it was in the bushes back

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here behind city hall. So, um so anyways, uh speaking of appropriations and grants, uh we were awarded that for our station alert, uh which goes along with uh health and safety and heart health and the new uh quieter tones that

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um um and specific to each uh uh truck and and person that's on that truck. Uh so that'll be a big improvement in the next year to come and I'd owe a lot to that to the mayor and his involvement with um you know the the governor and uh

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supposedly most people got slashed and we made it through somehow. Uh so so anyways that was great news for us. Saved 300 plus thousand dollars for us in our budget. Um just got back from the fire chief's conference and um a lot of

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talk uh League of Cities was there, their attorney, a lot of talk about the proposed amendment. Uh a lot of concern across the state. So u we'll be looking at that as well and uh that's it right now. A lot going on. >> Thank you. Any other department heads?

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Mr. Rudel. >> Well, I did just briefly want to introduce in the front row here. This is Sophia Null. She is a uh law student who is clerking with our firm this summer. She's also from the city of Bradon. So

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um she's been enjoying getting to see some of the behind the scenes that goes on in Bradon and Palmetto. So >> you may see her this afternoon as well for those that are coming back. >> What law school? >> Go ahead.

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>> What law school? >> What law school? >> Uh Stson. >> Oh, okay. Excellent. A couple other things real quick before we finish up here. And I know it's uh Point Park if people have heard about. We'll talk about more about that in our next meeting. And also some of the our

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dealings with the county, different options that we're looking at. You know, we'll talk about going forward, bringing it to the council with more information on opportunities for us. At the moment, as Chief Kramer said, sooner they get out, the sooner we might have to be out

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and have opportunity. But all that's All that's working collaboratively now. We just don't have anything big to announce, right, Mr. Perry? >> Not yet. >> Not yet. So, we're working. Every day is a challenge, but it's a good one. Um, so we appreciate it. And with that, we'll be adjourned. Thank you.

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>> That was aggressive.

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This meeting is called to order. It's 2 pm. The Bradenton Community Redevelopment Agency board meeting for Wednesday, July 22nd, 2026 at 2 p.m. Let's all rise for the pledge of allegiance.

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I alian to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay, moving on. We'll have citizen

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comments. Citizen comment will be accepted during the citizen comment portion of the meeting on any non-aggenda item, agenda item, future agenda item or topic of relevance to the community redevelopment agency of the city of Bradenton. Comments will be accepted on the public hearings at the

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appropriate time. Uh I have no cards. We have no citizen uh comments. Uh so uh let's move on to the consent agenda agenda. Um any comments discussion around the

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consent consent agenda items? >> I I actually would love to discuss the three grants DE and F. >> So are you moving? >> I'll move to approve >> and uh pull off D and F.

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>> Okay. >> Second. >> All right. So, we have a motion uh by um Vice Mayor Coker for items A, B, and C for A, B, and C. And a second by Councilwoman Barnaby. Uh all in favor,

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uh let's take a vote. All in favor say I. >> Before you >> Before we do that, um do we want to have any discussion? >> Yeah, we Yes. I was And >> don't we vote on >> We're going to vote and then have a discussion. >> Have a discussion on the three that were

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pulled off. Oh, I'm sorry. I actually also just wanted I didn't know if we wanted to have discussion about a as well. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Do you want to pull it off or >> Well, if you want to go ahead. [laughter] >> Friendly amendment to the motion to

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approve items B C. >> I'll accept it. [laughter] >> Okay. Uh, regarding the consent agenda, any other further adjustments or comments before we move forward? Uh,

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regarding items B and C, let's take a vote. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Uh, any opposed? Uh, passes unanimously for B and C. Uh, going in alphabetical order. Let's start

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with item A. >> Sustainable. >> Um, I just wanted to clarify. So, we are amending the grants to remove is is this going to ultimately I just want to be clear about what I'm

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doing when it comes to automotive uses. Let me put let me put it on the overhead. [snorts] Mr. Campbell just in case. So there's a question Todd Campbell S coordinator question is about removing

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uh the automotive parking establishment sales rental establishment service station and specialty establishment and allowing them to have access for grant funding redevelopment grant funding for external property imp external improvements to

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the external property. So the facade of the building, not internal upgrades. [snorts] >> Okay. >> It's it's it stemmed from a conversation I had with Jake's Automotive and as of now they're they're not in eligible use. That building is a you

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know I think it's a historic building. It's it's you know it's it's been a while been around a while. after speaking with with the owner, he was telling me all the, you know, the history of it. And, you know, the reality is it yes, it's it's a service

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station. I mean, it's an auto repair shop, but it's also a building that I think is worth saving. Um, and by allowing them to utilize CRA fundings for external improvements, it helps, you know, upgrade the the beauty of the of

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the neighborhood as well. We're not going to allow them to install lifts and, you know, things like that or >> expand, but it it would for paint, for roofs, for storm hardening. He's he's uh and this is just the example I have I've

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had have with that gentleman is he's interested in adding impact windows such as the uh sign zoo. I believe they added some really expensive uh glass garage doors that are impact. They look really nice and he's, you know, they're they're not cheap, but you

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know, he he's looking to invest in, you know, beautify his property. He's also code enforcement's on him a little bit as well, but um he's he's he's taken care of those issues, but uh that's what spurred the conversation.

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>> Okay. So, we're Oh, go ahead. >> Go ahead. Well, I just wanted to make sure I just wanted to make sure I understood what we were doing in the space of automotive things. I think exterior renovation is >> absolutely appropriate. >> That's all it is. Um we make we make

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them provide us quotes from licensed professionals uh that show the type of work. We base our grant off of the work and the quote that's provided in the dollar amount as well. Uh when it comes to parking lots, I know that's that's

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another one that we had discussed. Um I get it. I understand like to throw money in a parking lot, but you know what we have is we have a lot of these properties that are utilized as parking lots that you know they look terrible. >> Uh so so we thought it was worth

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investing if they're done right. They'd have to provide you know an SIP. They'd have to provide conceptuals. They'd have to provide u quotes as well and it have to it'll have to abide by city policy. Uh so the thought behind that and the goal behind

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that is for you know people that own a parking lot if they want to invest money in it will beautify that parking lot not just you know pave over it and not plant trees or anything like that. >> Okay. That that was kind of my I was wondering like

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>> is it above and beyond just putting as >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Is it landscaping is or going to block >> professional landscaping? It would I [cough] pretty tough. I mean, I don't especially when it comes to a parking lot. I would absolutely you provide a conceptual. You

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have to go through DRC. You have to abide by you're going to have to do a site improvement plan more than likely. Uh you have to go through all the different city departments to, you know, get approval. And then, you know, if you want, I can make sure that every one of those is not

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on consent and that we show a presentation for those. Um, >> I would just I want to be incentivizing above and beyond just >> Absolutely. And that's that's our intention as well. >> I mean, a good steward to their property

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and I would imagine code enforcement will make them if they start getting too messy and stuff like that. I don't know. But I want to make it an incentive to make it better, not just to help.

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>> So, and just a sentence. These uses were disallowed from grants because they're legal non-conforming uses. They they are not allowed in the city anymore in the downtown. But we also have the the visual effect

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of blight. So that's why when we talked about it allowing grants for the outside of the building to make them look nicer and to take away some of the effects that that may be under statutory blight, neglect

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of the building, things like that. That we said, "Okay, let's let's let's bring that to the board." And no, we're we're not going to um support uh legal non-conforming use, but we are going to support the exterior

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of the building itself. So, that's why it's being amended. And you're right, um you know, we want them to to take it above where it is now. So, it does give other businesses an opportunity who

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couldn't get a grant. Now they can, but we have to be very specific in that we're not expanding or encouraging the use any any more than it currently is today because it is according to city council a legal non-conforming use.

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Understood. >> I I have a question then going back to automotive. Um, is anyone here familiar with Fields Auto Body on First Street? So, now that that establishment would be

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eligible to apply for Okay. So if he wanted to >> for exterior that >> if he wanted to put a new roof, if he wanted to paint, if he wanted to put new doors in, they would be eligible for

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that as well. >> Or the exterior. >> All right. So yeah, and to clarify, Vice Mayor Coker, just exterior. >> Only exterior. >> I Yeah, I understand that. But I was just saying >> no interior bathrooms, no waiting rooms.

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It's it's only it's it's basically a facade grant for legal non-conforming properties within the city of Bradenton >> CRA boundaries, >> but prior to this that wouldn't have been eligible. >> Correct. Right. So, we're allowing them

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to, you know, make it look more appealing when you drive by. Yeah. The [snorts] purpose though is to maybe when they're doing their things to make it better because we're incentivizing it a little bit, right? So like some just

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because somebody needs a new roof. Is that really the CRA's is that the purpose is for us to do >> Well, we're not going out and you know, we're not going out and just >> Yeah, but what I'm saying is, you know,

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if you've got an investor that has a property They could take they could take advantage of it. Yes. >> We we >> I don't think she wants them to. >> Yeah. I mean, if if somebody is owns a property, then then they are eligible to

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apply for a grant. >> But are you letting them just do any kind of roof they want or are we doing something enhanced? >> Metal roofs. We >> metal roofs. Metal roofs. Okay. >> Yes. That's what I'm So there's incentiv because we're incentivizing it. Okay.

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>> And and also on top of that, if they build to the >> uh insurance industry's fortified code, they're eligible for even more money, but that means that they have to put a roof on that's beyond the Florida building code. So, and the whole reason for that is is to make sure that

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business stays viable after a hurricane. >> Okay. Miss Gonzalez Moore, did you >> I was just gonna um on on the heels of um of council person uh Coker, sorry, can I get my words out? Um

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comment where I was going with that is Jake obviously I think is a is a good neighbor and a good steward. Um but >> not all of them are. >> I agree. and um and so I just feel like automotive is like a little you know I I just am sensitive to >> where we want to put that where we want

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to encourage that. Um so I just wanted I mean I don't >> so so the >> is there an element of >> these definitions are in the code of ordinance from the city of Bradon. So we we are we're we're following Bradon's ordinances. So they

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lump you know Jake's automotive in with a gas station. >> Sure. I mean that honestly that was >> and another thing that's been concerning me and I know that staff already knows this but I don't know if you all if I you know obviously I can't talk to you guys about it but um are just this notion like you said like

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investors that are holding properties that could be very beneficial you know that could be being turned over to a better more you know desirable use and I

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I don't I don't know that I want to help someone who's, you know, we just, we've had a little bit, I think, in recent history of of dealing with property owners that aren't local, don't care, just milking whatever they can milk. >> It's a catch 22 because it's >> Well, also a couple things you I think

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of it's it is improving the building. So, that's part of it. The other thing too is that like Todd said, if you prefer [clears throat] that type of um use to come back to the

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board and need to have board approval, then we can do that as well. >> So you can see exactly >> I fully intend to bring these unique situations in front of you, not on consent, but you know, present.

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[snorts] Well, the building I was speaking of, it's pretty historic as well in my community. It's been around since the I think it was established in the 60s >> because when my dad tore up his old Mustang, [laughter]

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>> the Mustang was fixed, >> I guess. And so, we're just I guess we're comfortable with them with staff having to come to us >> with that the nuanced ones. Yeah, >> sure. Okay. be happy to. Just so you

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know, as long as we don't have a a um paint color policy for buildings, these particular buildings that are already non-conforming, I would rather them come back to the board because

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there may be some until uh in the past at other CRAAS, we have put in place these are the colors you can use and we give them a broad swath of colors that have been approved by the board. until we do that.

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>> Yeah. You don't want me picking colors. >> So, in the conversation I had with Jake, it was I'd let them know they would have to show the color of the building. And >> we don't want purple building, even though some people might like purple. I don't know, maybe you do. But, um, you

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know, >> on the Van Wasel. Well, >> I've never been there, but I'm sure it's great. Um, fire. Yeah. Uh, okay. >> Well, I have one other question, too. As far as um and if the property I mean, if

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it's not a dilapidated a blighted property, are we still I mean, are we still giving grants to things that aren't blighted? >> It depends. It depends on >> just because somebody wants a metal roof

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instead of a shingle roof. >> Well, again, it depends. A metal roof uh obviously statistically will do better in a high wind event than a shingle roof. And part of our plan states that that type

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of resiliency is allowable. So, we would be following our plan um by allowing that to happen. It also would increase the value of the building if they wanted to resell. That type of roof has a much longer lifespan

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than an than an asphalt shingle roof. >> Have to sell me on that. >> So, um you know, there's so many different ways. Again, on non-legal non-conforming uses, do not have a problem with bringing them all before the board. That way until we come up

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with some uh tighter policies for these types of uses then the board can you know we'll work on we'll bring them to you. We will listen to how you you know adjudicate them and

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then we will form policies based on that and bring that back to you. That way we hopefully will get it to a point to where it makes it streamlined and it isn't ambiguous. It's more more specific. So like it being specific.

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>> Any further comment or discussion around item 4 A? >> If if the board is agreeable, do we have to amend the motion to to do we have to amend this to say that legal nonconforming will come before the council or board? I I think at this time

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we can just I don't know how many we're going to have, but the next time we amend the the policy, we'll we'll have that in there. >> But Todd knows to bring them to before the board. >> Beta wouldn't dare not. Yeah, I think that's

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a decision for the board if you're comfortable approving it as is or it could be approved with that change if the board wanted to to add that. >> I I think we I think >> it makes sense to add it now.

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>> Yeah, if we can. >> So, that's fine. So, the >> make Move to approve the proposed adjustments to the CRA sustainable redevelopment grant program amending it to require

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>> board approval >> approval for just non-conforming non-conforming >> for non legal non-conforming grants. >> There you go. [snorts] >> Perfect. Does that work? >> Second. >> Thank you. >> Okay, we have a motion by uh Vice Mayor

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Coker and a second by Ms. Moore. Um, let's take it to a vote. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Uh, any opposed? No, I didn't hear that. Uh, motion passes unanimously for item 4 A.

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>> I'll stay up here for the other >> the other three as well. >> Do we need to do four D? >> Well, I actually they can all three. I mean, obviously I'm in favor of any improvements to any of the properties and everything, but I just didn't know

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from the CRA's perspective. Is there um what what is customary as far as I mean, giving multiple grants to the same person? I mean, it's it's uh I I just I'm feeling the tension that, you know, come

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what may in the elections will the pieces of the pie be changing and we need to make sure that we have it, you know, fair. >> So, the >> how does how is that is that treated in

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any way in other CRAAS? As far as >> No, the grants are based off a partial IDs and so each parcel is eligible for a grant unless it's a legal non-conforming use, but we just address that. So if one

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person owns multiple parcels, they can apply for one grant per property, but at the same time, if you own a piece of just a single piece of property in the same neighborhood or in the same CRA area, you can apply for a grant just like anybody else can. And we always

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keep sufficient funds available so that to this point, we haven't we have never hit the the bottom of the barrel of our account. Mhm. >> So everybody has access to the funding and somebody

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>> Are these self-unding as well? >> Uh the grants. >> Yes. >> No, the grants are not. I mean >> to a degree >> there there is a residual. I mean if you pull a building permit that permit then goes to the property appraiser and an adjustment is supposed to be made based

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on that permit. You know it's up to the property appraiser. grants are more uh business retention and business expansion type to for existing buildings. And at the same time

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there are ancillary benefits like resiliency to hurricanes by putting a metal roof on the building or impact windows. Um, if we did have a grant and historic preservation, obviously, if we did have somebody that wanted a commercially that

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wanted to go the full amount, for instance, um, the professional building downtown, >> that's a lot of money being put into that building. It will have an effects on the tax role, but not the same way incentives do.

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>> Incentives are supercharged. They are like, you know, they're aimed at creating and that that investment and and and taking advantage of that. On our side, grants are more about having existing building owners and homeowners

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have the ability to invest and help them. In certain areas like central, we have learned that a 5050 match might not help as much because people might have a harder time getting their 50%. So, we actually partner with CDBG

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and we're getting roofs put on houses now that need them. So, it does it has an effect on the tax role. Not as big as an incentive, but there are also reasons why we give grants. I

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mean, for instance, a public art grant not going to have a big hit on the tax role, but the, you know, just having it there as an investment in the community. There's so many different ways it benefits.

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Grants, grants are not um they're not the big money maker here, but they do help businesses and homeowners stay in place. >> Understood. Um, did you, Miss Coker, did you want to

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>> uh I want to uh go I'll make a motion to approve. >> Can I do them all together? >> D, E, and F. That's what I would have been on consent. >> Uh, to approve. Okay. Thank you. >> So, we we have a motion for fourde and F. And

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>> the only thing I want to discuss though is at some point I think we do need to talk about uh the same because We can talk about it later, but I want to go ahead and pass these. Okay, >> let's take a vote. All in favor of items

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4, D, E, and F, say I. >> I. >> I. >> Okay. Uh motion passes unanimously. Moving along on the agenda. Um, regarding all CRA districts, item number

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five A. Hi, Mr. >> Go ahead, >> Mr. Chair. So, um, welcome to budget season. So, as you know, we have an interdep departmental application that we send out to all the departments and

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if they're looking for money, they are funding, they come and they have to fill out the application, give us their budget, all that kind of stuff. They also have to come and face face you guys for their funding. They'll tell you a

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lot of good things that they do. Um, so f first up is the Bradington PD. Um, as I talked to most of you, I don't think I was able to talk to Councilwoman Barnaby, but we had a discrepancy on the calculation

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uh, for the funding request. It's increased a little bit of like about $2,400. Um, but it was just a oversight on the original budget that was posted in your agenda. So, I gave everybody the updated

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application. And with further ado, Lieutenant Bordon, it's all yours. >> Well, thank you for having us this morning. I'm Lieutenant Bordon, Patrol Services, Braden Police Department, and this is my homeless outreach team, Officer Pulos, and Tamika.

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>> So, we'll go over our budget overview uh for this year. Like he said, he already went over the budget, and I think he provided each of you with um paper copies, or at least you can see our screen. So, BPD and CRA partnership. BPD meets several areas of the CR sustainability

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redevelopment plan. Uh this includes innovations in community policing, improving blighted areas, implementing SEPTED practices, and working with the public and private entities to revitalize all CRA areas.

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So, some of the highlights for 2026, uh, we conducted several large-scale operations focused on addressing issues in the CRAAS, including pan handling, assisting public works with cleanups, etc. Um, we assisted with uh after

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midnight permits. We conducted three SEPTA surveys for grants as well as over 50 SEPTA principal recommendations uh for the DRC. We increased the BTP, which is a business trespass program participation in the CRAAS. That really helps us um

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where we're not trying to hunt down owners of the businesses to be able to trespass. We can trespass without them. Uh assisted and conducted numerous high-profile investigations in the CRAAS. So, one of the big cases that we dealt with was earlier this year we were

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having several overdose cases, especially around OneTop and the Salvation Army. Well, our CRA officers were gathering intel and we figured out who the officer uh who the suspect was and what vehicle was. So, we passed that along to the narcotics officers and they were able to make the rest. The

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overdoses have dropped tremendously. We haven't really had any since then. So, that was one of our biggest success stories in the CRA this year. Uh we assisted 14 people with hot funds and relocation of housing based on these these two fine people here.

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Uh, one of the biggest success stories that we had, we've had several, like I said, 14 of them. But the one that touched us the most was Miss Bradley, who's an elderly woman who requires full-time care and lives with her caregiver, Mr. Jones. Due to her medical condition, her disability income does

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not cover all of her living expenses. They were given short notice by their landlord to vacate their residence after it was deemed uninhabitable. Despite uh combining their incomes, Miss Bradley and Mr. Mr. Jones were unable to secure new housing because they could

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not afford the upfront move in costs. Given Miss Bradley's significant health concerns, homelessness would have placed her at serious risk. So, CRA officers and Tamika through our homeless outreach program worked together to provide financial assistance to um for the

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remaining movein costs. As a result, Miss Bradley and Mr. Jones were able to move into their new apartment, ensuring they had safe and stable place to live. And then they sent us a picture of themselves [cough] in their new home. Very happy and thankful. They sent us a nice thank you letter appreciating all

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our help that we've done for them this year. Um, we could go on. All the stories are very touching. Uh, Tamika goes out with Officer Pool Host. Every week they ride together and they go find the families that need help.

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So in 2027, obviously you all are aware we've been losing some people, especially uh, Councilwoman Coachman. we're losing to other agencies. So, with that being said, we've lost a few of our SEPTED certified officers this year. So, this year we have two officers that are

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uh going to be getting certified in the upcoming months so that we can backfill those officers that we've already lost. Uh we're going to expand community engagement opportunities through outreach events and community meetings in the CRA. uh expand crime reduction operations, expand crime prevention in

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the SEPT surveys and the CRAAS, and increase our homeless outreach efforts. So, like he was uh Chris was talking earlier about the budget. We've provided this. It's on here as well, but you guys should have the paper copies or at least digital upfront unless you need me to go over any of these.

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Any questions from the board? I I just wanted to start out by saying that, you know, Lieutenant, I know you said that you could go on about the successes um stories. Uh I just really wanted to

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thank you that, you know, I think that having this in place, it's just so so important from a quality of life issue for all of our citizens. Um and um you know, this policing uh success proves itself in the stories that we hear every

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day. So, I'm I'm very thankful for it. Thank you. >> And I I'll have to uh add to that. [clears throat] I have the opportunity and the pleasure to see you at work. See a lot of our C CRA community policing at

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at work uh as well as CRT. But, um [clears throat] I I have a question a little bit of questions about what you put before us. the budget is what it is, but is is that everything or

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what are there any operational things that you incur other than I mean like cars maintenance? Is that under the city's budget or is it >> Well, they when they they have we have

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the CRA has funded um cars um the past I think two years ago we got three new cars and before that we had purchased new cars for them. >> So that was that was the CRA funding those. Um I think the police department

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themselves you know pay for the maintain >> maintain them. Okay. So that's not a cost that CRA has to >> it's not within the budget. Yeah. We they they come when they when they you know that's when they're looking for that type of product. Like I think

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previous to me getting here I think they got four-wheelers too some quads and things like that. So they they do when when those things come up they can you know um reach out to us and then they

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have it's not a secret. Um and then we we allow that to be within their their funding you know if they want to present that to you they can come and present that in that interdep departmental application as well. So if if like next

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this next year if they needed a new car then they would you know speak with us and then we say okay well or on the next budget you know for the next year we can look at putting those in there as part of that budget. >> Okay funding

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>> it's not necessarily a line item for that on this okay >> yeah so this year we didn't need any so we didn't budget for any for this year. So like he was saying within you know next year or two we might need a few more cars but we will plan that. >> I just thought maybe even maintaining

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them but if BPD does it on that the city does it on that side. Okay no problem. >> I'm going to ask a question too about where are you guys located? I know the office was kind of I I do >> so right now our office is in the back

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parking lot. So okay it's located in the parking garage. Right. Um, and then we have substations throughout throughout the area. We have a substation in Oakme. We have a substation there which is in the CRA. They provide us a office to use the restroom. We also have a substation

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at Just Jewelers. And then we have another substation just outside of the CRA over off 17th Avenue, uh, the old Girl Scout house. >> So, we have a couple different throughout the city. Um, you know, it's it's nice, especially on the east side where we have restrooms for officers to use instead of having to try to drive

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back here. It's not very convenient for a female officer to take everything off in a racetrack gas station to use a restroom. >> So, I get that. [laughter] >> Yes, ma'am. So, so I've been told >> so operational sensitive. [laughter] >> So, operational costs that also comes

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out of that doesn't that's not on us. It's not part of their budget. So, >> okay. What? Okay. >> But they've we have worked with the BPD on other on the city grants to replace some cameras and things like that as

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well. So, there's always that opportunity um for them to come and see us about certain, you know, items. >> Okay. So, >> fencing as well like on MLK Park or cameras along those lines. So that that

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money comes out of >> where I mean >> for the city grant >> or for >> when when they come to us and and don't first of all don't think I don't think you're doing a great job because you're doing a fabulous job. Okay, that's not

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it. I'm just money right now is on my mind. And also I want to know um how things are being covered cuz I I didn't necessarily realize all the substations. Those aren't just CRA.

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>> Correct. >> Okay. >> Any officer can use any of those. >> Right. Right. Okay. That's what I was thinking. But I was trying to make sure I understood where CRA's office because I feel like that's our responsibility. >> Yeah. It's just right across the street. >> Okay. Okay. So CRA did not move to Jess.

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No, ma'am. >> Okay, that that helps, too. Um I I'm good. [laughter] >> This is >> W five is alive. >> Any other

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>> and that's why I see them a lot and I I am just ecstatic. I would not do anything to take pennies from you. Absolutely not. I just want to know how make sure you are funded. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> The way you you should be. That was really it. >> Thank you. Um, Mr. Mon, do you want to

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just touch on for a second because the, you know, how the, uh, ratios work. You said there's a $2,500 adjustment, which is dimminimous on the overall. So, so basically how we fund we fund the officers at a 95%

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um of what the the salary is um because we want to have the city or the PD um handling that other 5% allows for those officers if they need to cross the lines out of the CRA to be able to do that in

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case of an emergency or things like that. Um, so that's why we fund 95%. The discrepancy was that we we actually pay 50% of the case worker. Um, and it's through Manatee County. It's a there's an agreement with Manatee County um,

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with the city. And so the CRA pays that 50%. So what happened is that 50% was included in that 95% and not at the 100%. So that was the discrepancy and it was about $2500

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um difference. So that's why it was changed. >> Understood. Thank you. Um any further discussion, questions? Do we have a motion? >> I'll make a motion to approve the inter

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departmental funding application >> code. Wait, do I have the right one? >> No, we're got ahead of myself. My bad. >> Sorry. [laughter] >> Anybody else? Move to approve request from the Bradon Police Department for

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community policing for the fiscal year 2026 2027 and the amount up to 928,6180 >> with a a slight correction um to the 931 38506. >> Thank you. Second.

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>> Okay. Uh, we have a motion by Miss Barnaby with a second by Miss Coachman. Um, >> all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> I. >> Just to redeem myself unanimously. >> That is what said. [laughter]

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>> It does. >> Highlighted was just a change right before. >> No, I'm talking about code enforcement. >> Just just as a note to the police department. Uh the >> the police department, you know, they have really stepped up their

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>> that's next. Stepped up their um community, not community policing, but um settled uh provisions. They've got people trained. We've paid for that. That is a part of the incentives that we work and it's also part of the grants. and it may

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not have a monetary benefit the day that they help us determine how to best give a grant to a property owner to reduce crime. But over the long haul, over the daytoday, having cameras and lighting

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and all the other things that uh that SEPTED helps with and encourages is a benefit because hopefully in the long run, it reduces the need for have police officers out in the field because crime is being committed where we're now

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investing in the the actual architecture of the city to reduce crime. So >> priceless. Yeah, [laughter] it's uh I've seen studies on it and it's amazing what uh you know a city that really thinks forward like that what it can produce. So

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good partnership. >> All right. Well, thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> You >> next we have code enforcement. >> Yes. >> And I just got to say whoever hired Vulkar

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>> Reese is one of the smartest guys ever. [laughter] Good afternoon. My name is Fa Rice. I'm the compliance manager for the city of Bradenton. Before I start, we work uh very closely with the CRA

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with Jordan and Tamika. It's uh it really works for us. Uh we work really really close with them and they see us once a week and we see them once a week. So, it's uh it's it works for us.

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Which one is mine? >> The second one down. There you go. >> I don't want to have fancy pictures. Uh I I don't want to. I know. >> No. >> Yes, I do. Oh, there you go.

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>> I should know this because we do it at the special magistrate, but I guess I Um just for for the uh for sake of the audience uh our activities and code enforcement we do proactive strategic neighborhood inspections in all three

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CRAAS uh we identify dilapitated structures we contact residents and uh refer them to an to assistant that's available and uh starting in fiscal 2027 we want to

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start uh program. I don't like that term, but uh uh assisting homeowners with cosmetic property maintenance and removal of dangerous trees because we have found that there's a little bit of a gap in our in the way we

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we make help available to people who need help. And I'll get to that in a second. I think I have 45 minutes. Is that correct? [laughter] Um our funding request is $35,000 for the central CRA. $35,000 for the Tamia

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Mitrial 14th Street CRA and $20,000 for the um uh Bradon CRA. Uh we will use them for our code enforcement officers and for costs associated with the proposed pilot program which I will get

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to in a second. We have um identified there is sometimes issues at residential properties where the grant program takes too long and is

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too cumbersome. For example, I'm talk for example trees. We have people who have dead trees in their yard and we ask them to please remove the dead trees because they are a public safety issue.

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Uh everything has gotten so expensive. If you want to remove a dead tree now, it's going to cost you thousands of dollars. At least it will cost you about two grand just a regular tree. And we have people in the C on residences in

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the CRA who who simply do not have that money. They they they can't afford it. And we would wanted to jump in and see if there's something that we from a code enforcement standpoint with money can do

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to help people like that. We also have situations where we have people who have junk outside or items, I'm sorry, items outside and that we want them to remove and if we send our uh sanitation people

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out, it's going to it's going to cost the city money to do that. So we are trying with situations like that if we can get a the junk removals services to have some junk removed for maybe5 $500

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$600 if people would agree to that. Uh you know uh in not in the CRA but you know situations where I'm talking about we had uh we had a situation in the village of the arts a couple of years ago I want to say where we had nine

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trucks that So that may be too much. But we have smaller uh smaller situations where people just need help. Uh we we have people who might need help with their vegetation a little bit. And I'm

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not talking about ablebodied 25 year old football players. I'm talking about some of our residents who are elderly or infirm. And we have them. And

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they may not have a a a physical uh uh disability. They may have a mental disability too. And uh between uh Jordan Pulos and myself and our code enforcement officers, sometimes we are

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successful to get these people to agree to uh to get rid of items, for example. And uh we don't want to tell them, look, you need to find somebody who does that for you. We want to help them with that. And we'll see how it works. I can't tell

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you that it's going to be a successful program. I think it will be and I will report back to you a year from now or or Jeff if if it's something that we want to keep doing or something that didn't work. But I think it's a it's it's a it's a good thing to do right now. And I

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already had one today, a lady coming in and she needs help with a tree and she might be able to do it herself, but she I had to think of the meeting this afternoon when she came in this morning. So, uh, I'm asking you to, uh, approve our modest request

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and and I'm of course open to any questions, >> questions, comments. >> Seems fairly it is. Yeah, >> I like the initiative. You know, you have a we spoke about one of them. I I don't think they're in the

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CRA, but >> they wouldn't agree, but they would be a great would be a great example where we could help >> because they really don't need thousands of dollars. They need >> Well, it's a >> to clean up.

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>> Yeah. And it's it's one of the things when you talk about trees and I I hate to mention it but when we can help others uh and I don't hate to mention this but when we can help others where we can uh because without that um you

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know a tree for example and I've seen it happen and they push it in the street and it's you know Mr. Moira's problem. So um you know I I think this is a great initiative and a good start as a as an experiment. >> The problem won't go away. I mean, we're going to be stuck at the end with it

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anyway. Somebody's going to have to pay for it. And >> yes, >> that's usually the taxpayer. >> Interested. Well, thank you very much, Vulker. Uh, >> yes. >> Um, uh, Mr. Rice, >> um, is this just for residential properties?

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>> I believe so. I I don't see a need at this point for commercial properties. Uh, I I I can't see it. Uh I'm I'm not saying 100% never ever ever ever say never, but I I I don't plan to use it on

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commercial properties. I think there's other help available for them. Uh we want to focus on our residents on who need help. >> Mr. Chair, >> yes, Miss Coachman.

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>> Absolutely. Do we have a motion? Move to approve the interdep departmental funding application for code enforcement in the amount not to exceed $9,000 for the fiscal year 2026 2027.

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>> Second. >> All right. [laughter] >> We have a motion by Miss Coachman and a and a tie for a second. Uh sounded like Miss Barnaby came in first. Uh so um

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let's take a vote. All in favor of uh say I >> I um none opposed. Passes unanimously. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Item 6A,

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Community Redevelopment Agency Public Works Downtown Maintenance Initiative. >> Mr. Chair. So, we did get a interdep departmental application from the downtown maintenance team and they're

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here to present to you. [laughter] Good afternoon, Mr. President and board. My name is James Mod. I'm the division manager for the city of Bradington Solid Waste, and I also manage the the DAT team. So, for those that don't know what the DAT team does, we are uh we have the

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Main Street corridor. We go from Bakarata and Martin Luther from 15th Street to the Green Bridge. And we do everything from getting on our hands and knees and scraping off gum off sidewalks to planting flowers and power washing the sidewalks after a rough night on a

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Saturday and they don't look too good. But we get them clean. It's clean before you guys even wake up. >> So with that said, uh which one is on? >> You're the third one down there. >> There you go.

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>> Not going to see any palm trees, am I? >> [laughter] >> folks only. >> Okay. So, uh this next slide is it's kind of scary. Um but um I have to show it. Let me introduce my dad team to you. [laughter]

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Uh Gil Penny is my lead. Uh he's been with us for three three years or so. And we got Daniel Cany in here. He's been with us for a couple of years. And the new victim is uh [laughter] Bri Brian Davis. So he's he's he's a new

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um you'll see his father up on Main Street. Your mom and dad selling flowers and stuff on on the main street for the Bradington Market and stuff like that. So we we brought him on over. Skyler left us. Uh he was the one that always wore the crocodile Dundee hat out there.

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[laughter] Yeah. He left us last last week and uh we're we're going to miss him. So, we're operating on three workers right now, but but we're handling it. We are handling it. >> So, uh I started this four years ago and

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it was just one worker and myself >> and you guys brought this to our attention and this is the way it looks now. So, we have made progress in those those four years. As you could see, um we're thinking outside the box. This

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stuff sits right in front of the coffee shop, the pottery, and we tried to kind of match it the best we can to the color approved [clears throat] colors for the city of Bradington. So, we have some at the uh coffee the coffee shop and this sits right in on the side of that art

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deco as you're you're walking by and more are going to pop up. So, if you have any suggestions, shoot me an email and we will we will get it done. So this piece of property right here, this is AI generated. This sits right in

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front of our bricks. >> Sits right in front of our bricks. And you notice there's no flowers, just mulch. Because of the root system from this tree, we can't put any flowers unless we cut the roots from the tree, which we don't want to do, which could kill it or it could weaken it and it'll

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fall over during a storm. So, we're we're we're thinking of placing a a tiered waterfall like this with plants, which we already have water [cough] and it'll be a misting system and it'll be selfwatering and it waters at night.

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>> And I like it. I like that. >> They said, "Hey, they're going to ask you about what if a car jumps the curb a little bit and knocks it over. We're going to put these big stones around it and that should protect it." So, that sits right in the uh Orics area. That's what we have planning on plan on doing

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FY27. >> I think you guys are going to like this. It's a butterfly garden. >> So, this butterfly garden will sit across the street from the coffee shop >> off off to the side because we don't want the a butterfly garden on Main Street and get these little kids going

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after them, trying to knock down the butterflies and stuff like that. But if we could put it off of Main Street, but that they could see it and then we will put a sign on there, butterfly garden, come and look at it, take your pictures. So, that's something we're thinking outside the box to do. Um, and

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>> and you're you've got a puddler there for the butterflies. That's what that little >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yep. >> Perfect. >> Absolutely. >> And >> we talked about this before. Um, and uh, Coker knows about it. It's the salt

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coming off of the of Manatee River. And we tried to put these hanging plants up >> and they kept dying. And they kept dying and kept dying. So Gil reached out to the experts and they said probably what's happened is the you have such

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small um area for the plants to grow that they can't even establish and then the salt gets them and kills them. So we are thinking about putting something like this. These are huge really huge. And this tea that holds them is it's as

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high as the street lights on Main Street. So, we're thinking about um but suggestions from you all. Um maybe right in front of that coffee shop right off of uh right on Main Street. So, there is

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that um white chair that kind of wiggles around like that on the other side. >> So, it'll be a nice tea with these huge huge baskets. and then the soil is deep so it'll allow the plants to start to grow. We're hoping that'll work and um

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we want to just try one and if it takes off then we'll put them wherever you all want them. So we think that's going to solve the problem. I hope cross fingers. So the downtown maintenance team that strives for excellent. Five years ago our operation began with just one employee myself. Today, we have

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transformed the downtown corridor into a beautiful, vibrant destination filled with stunning floral displays, a clean environment, and a safe atmosphere for our families. Our work consistently attracts visitors from across the state and the country. Team members frequently

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share that the mayor, city council members, and the public have stopped to praise their hard work, and we sincerely thank each and every one of you for your continued support. Um, I just love this picture. I took this when I I first started, but this I

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know that there is going to be a project with a lights on the trees. I hope I'm not hitting a >> Oh, absolutely not. We are We are [laughter] >> We are guns ablazing on this light. >> Let's just go to the next slide. [laughter]

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>> Let just go back. What you see in that light is is a fraction of the beauty you'll see when when the light project is done. And we we were asked the DAT team was asked to be the eyes and the ears for when when they do get put in those trees. So we will report [cough]

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if uh if the lights are out if they're not working, if they're not doing this and they're not doing that and we'll just report back. So that team will be the the eyes and ears for that. And these are actual flowers from >> Y'all have my phone number, right? >> Yes, ma'am. Sure. D. >> I I do have a question regarding

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downtown core. Um any uh any um suggestions as to expanding the program and downtown core meaning,

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you know, just for edification purposes where that area is exactly and are there any plans to perhaps expand it as we continue to connect the city and the CRAAS? That's a good question and I think that um that's something we could

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probably talk about and probably even talk to Professor Green about when he finishes his uh study of the downtown in the main street program. This dovetales into it perfectly. >> I know that we want this to be a success and Mr. Moore and his team is is already proving that. So, we want to get one

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thing right before we start to grow. >> I I would I would tell you this that um coming to Bradenon between the police and code enforcement and the downtown team. I worry so much about handing money to any government agency and then something happening and then no

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maintenance. >> Yeah. you know, between the reports we get from the PD on crime and you know what Vulkar gives us monthly on code enforcement and we talked about the grants. Vulker, you need to make sure you identify the code violation because

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code violations are synonymous with blight which helps us a lot helps the board make happy decisions, very very healthy decisions about funding these things. Um, you know,

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you can't do enough with this guy. You know, he's he's coming up with ideas and but apparently, you know, more more flowers. More flowers. And by the way, more flowers >> and uh so >> don't forget the lights and [laughter]

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>> and all I can tell you is is that they they stay maintained. >> Yes. >> And that goes a long way for us. So um again you know coming to Bradenton has been a pleasure when it comes to to funding. You know the only thing we really did was create this inter local

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this inner uh departmental uh application process because we needed a paper trail between the board and then these departments that's been taken care of. um the city grants which Chris brought up that's that helps us uh you

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know when something needs to be done immediately that we can work with them with you know we can move quicker so that's been done um I would tell you that yeah you can start talking about um you know not even

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downtown but in the other CRA's you know problem the only thing you have to do is you have to somehow clone him >> well and it it for [laughter] for me that was just mainly out of curiosity and to see if the discussion because obviously as as we all have been

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referring to we want this to be a success and we want to get it right in one area >> as long as the board has the the plan and the statute to fall back on and probably the constitution sooner or later state constitution um then what we

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need to do is is we need to make sure that all the paperwork that the everything that they're doing is docu documented so that in case we are asked you know why we can present that and have a case.

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So so far I feel very comfortable with all the all of the departments that have come in and um we feel like you know at if if what they've been doing for the past couple years if you want to expand

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that then we need to sit them down and talk about how we make that happen. Um, so we just need to make sure that we continue to do it the way we've been doing it and maybe even, you know, I'm always telling my staff, improve on it. You

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know, I'm sure Chris has got some, he probably already has an application they can fill out online and the whole nine yards. So, >> do you? >> No. >> Okay. Well, you can do that. [laughter] So, but we can we can we can talk about that.

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>> Understood, Miss Barnaby. Mr. Mora, >> ma'am, >> there hasn't been a time that I have called you and you didn't take care of the problem. You [cough] have never let [clears throat] me down. Nor has your team.

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>> Promise. >> There's other people in the city that can't say that. >> But you all have. I mean, seriously, every time I've called about an issue, my personal favorite was the mattress in

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the trees. >> Yep. Took challenge. We got it. >> But you've you've never you've never let this board down. >> So, gentlemen, thank you very very much. >> You're welcome. >> And Mr. Chairman, I'd be happy to make the motion to approve the interdep

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departmental funding application for the public works downtown maintenance initiative for this upcoming fiscal year in the amount of and let me hope hopefully I won't transpose these numbers or screw these numbers up. $451,23568.

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Am I right? >> Second. >> You are correct. We have a uh a motion by Councilwoman Barnaby and a second by Vice Mayor Coker for the vote. All in favor say I. >> I.

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>> None opposed. Uh passes unanimously. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, guys. [laughter] >> Okay, moving on. Um, item 6B, Community Redevelopment Agency Historic Preservation Grant Request for

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a property located at 53013th Street West. >> Good afternoon. Todd Campbell, CRA coordinator. wanted to um present a grant historical redevelopment grant application that the CRA staff received uh over the last few

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weeks uh from Gym Collective 530 LLC. Property is located what is referred to as 53013th Street [clears throat] West. However, I believe there's four different addresses at the property. So, if you might see different addresses, but it the main address is

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53013th Street West. Uh the applicant is estimating a total investment into the property of over $6.5 million. Proposed scope of work uh will include pretty much every single surface of the building, plumbing, electric,

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uh paint, anything you see in there will be touched. Um so the proposed, like I said, the the end result is to turn the the building into a community gathering space called Gather 242. Uh and according to the application,

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once complete, the building will will be repurposed into a community gathering space and food hall with seven vendors, craft cocktail bar, and event space. The applicant is requesting grant funding in the amount of up to $600,000

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subject to CRA standard annual funding cycles and compliance with all CRA program requirements and reimbursement obligations. We're bringing to this in front of you. Typically, our grants are pretty straightforward. This one's a little

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outside of policy. So, uh, what what the applicant is asking for is approval for up to $600,000 to be reimbursed on an annual basis at $150,000 a year. So, it' be $150,000 a

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year for four years, then they'd be fully reimbursed. That's a little outside of our policy, but it also allows us to um help support some of these larger projects that we have that the uh incentive might not be

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an option for them. I do have the the applicant in the audience. I'd like for her to come up uh her and her team to come up if they'd like to uh she'd like to go over a brief presentation as well as answer any questions for you. Excellent.

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>> Thank you, Todd. >> Absolutely. >> Hello. >> Good afternoon. >> Um, this is the team. I know I had the opportunity to come out um a couple weeks ago and just share a little bit with you guys just about our intention with the building specifically um

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primarily because of the history of the building and its significance to Bradenton. Um, today we brought everyone. [laughter] We thought it would be helpful. >> And so, Miss Hagen, in that regard, because uh, some of us know some but not all. So, why don't you go ahead and introduce quickly everyone?

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>> Go ahead. >> Jeff, this is Gem Collective. Jeff, Elizabeth, Melissa, that's how we came up with Gem. Uh, Mimi is my wife. She goes by Mimi. And, uh, we're excited to see get get things

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started. We've got bids out there and >> we love Braden. We live here. >> Um, we want to help beautify. >> Excellent. >> This is Brian. >> Welcome. >> Hey, just wanted to curl tail that. No, that's okay, Jeff. [laughter] Thank you.

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Um, I think to Jeff's point, um, I think something that's important to know, you brought this up earlier, Councilwoman Koker, um, we live here. We are sourcing, funding, and doing this project with folks who live here. our children live here. Uh, one of the big reasons we wanted to do this project at

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all is we want them to stay here when they graduate or come back here after college. And so we believe this is something that allows us to not just do something really amazing for us on a Tuesday night when we're looking for something to do or place to go or um a place to bring our friends and gather with one another. No pun intended or

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every pun intended. Um, but also just for them too. It's hopefully going to take what you guys now know of as a historic building and really bring it to relevance and excitement again in the future as well. So, I'll start there. Thank you guys. I'm happy to go over

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these slides with you. There are quite a few in here. Um, but first and foremost, we started with just like that classic look of um the friendly city. I will skip through this one. This one just tells you a little bit about um Brian and I, but really um what we want you to know is that our mission is really to

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fuel Bradenton in food and in spirit. Um and so our vision is that when you think to yourself, I need to get with someone and maybe grab a cup of coffee or have a bite, that we be that table in the community that you come and do this at. Um to Todd's point earlier, seven chefs.

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So our goal is to identify seven kitchen vendor partners which are seven independent businesses that will move into the downtown CRA inside Gather and be independent operators within the building in addition to us as Gather 242 as the operator as well. So there will

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be a total of about eight actual employers who will join into this project um to create jobs and opportunities. There will be some fun things. We will have a self-s served pore wall. Um there is a rooftop garden that we I'll show you guys a picture of in just a second. Um definitely live

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music and events and this one's a big one for us. Um when we think live music, we think like karaoke again, the kind of things that you want to do with your friends and get together with uh that's going to be part of just how we bring folks downtown. Um we really that's one of our hearts is to be like let's just

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go hang out there. Uh and then very family friendly. Something else that's important to us is we appreciate and love so much of the action in downtown >> [laughter] >> But sometimes familyfriendly after six o'clock gets challenging. And so our event and our space will be fully family friendly. We will close at 9:00 during

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the week, at 10:00 or 11 at the latest on Saturdays. Um so we're not trying to be part of the 2 am crowd. We're really trying to be whole um a a place for whole family and whole city events. Um lots of private events, but this is what the building will look like. Um, you

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probably recognize the look the look of the building because the building looks a lot like this right now. Um, but some of the elements that you'll see that we will touch and I would say maybe enhance or revitalize. We keep the awning. We thought the awning was just so classic for that street. I'm not going to lie to

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you guys, that was a discussion for a while because the awning is not in good shape, but they were able to figure out how to redo it, but then make it really cool and really pretty. um it will be kind of like a photo op spot when you walk in. And then if you look to the left of that, you'll see where we're adding kind of this black awning across.

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And that really is just to mirror what else is on 13th. 13th has really started to develop a look. And so we wanted to join in that look and just also it it's a throwback to the early 20s to the 20s. And this building is from 1922 originally. So um this is the other

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side. You'll see I'm going to fly through these because if not we'll be here for 30 minutes. uh especially because if I get excited about this project, I just can't stop. Um but there will be a walk up window as well on this um side. We're turning one of those doors and entrances to an actual walkup window so that if you are coming to a

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meeting and you park over there and you want a coffee, you can get on your way in uh at the window. You don't have to go all the way through. But this is the floor plan. And really what you see here is what we wanted to point out is here's the seven vendors along the first floor along with a couple of private dining

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spaces, one downstairs and then one upstairs. Those are intended to be if you want a small business owner or a city department wants to have a meeting, they're welcome to reserve the room and they can do that there as well. [snorts] Um and then out here, what you see out

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here is a rooftop garden. And um I I'm going to show you guys a picture of the rooftop garden. Some of the things to know is um we are doing our very best to preserve the pieces of this building. This building has been empty for 15 years. It was purchased by a developer who has an interest in the area but just

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sat on it for a while hoping to kind of maybe flip it or something. I don't know. But um it sat for about 15 years just empty. And so it has been in okay condition considering, but there are some amazing pieces inside of it that we believe and our architects and our

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construction team believe that um they can preserve including the tin ceiling. That's what you see in this picture here is that tin ceiling is probably older than all of us in this room. Um and they do intend to retain and rehab that um along with uh really a lot of the space

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that is able to be retained is upstairs. And so you'll see that in just a second. This is just some of the pictures of downstairs. Mixed tables, meaning two groups of two, groups of four. Some of these soccer teams that come down to IMG and need a place to eat during a sports conference can join us there as well.

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Um, so just trying to give different options to folks. Uh, downstairs, we're really trying to honor what is the Sun Coast, right? Coastal vibes. And then you'll see as we move upstairs, it gets a little darker, a little moodier. Um the pictures are a little darker than it

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will be, but the reason um what you're seeing here is the building I am amazed at the way that the floors and the beams that are natural and original to the building from the 1922 construction are still there and relatively intact. So um

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we are preserving those floors. I think we've been told multiple times they are Dade City pine floors, which is a really cool thing. Um, the beams are uh really really big thick railroad tie style. >> I'm sorry. Did they say like heart of pine? Did they say dead city heart of

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pine? >> I believe so. We've had a couple people in there and they're like, "Uh, I think this is Dade City pine. You could sell this." And we were like, "But >> it's you can't get it anymore." And it's virtually indestructible. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They've said that >> holding up really well.

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>> Yeah. [laughter] They've said with the exception of a couple places they believe they may have to replace a few. But when we create the bar, we'll do tile behind the bar for the sake of maintenance and then we'll use those places to replace where we >> upstairs is really cool. Does any have

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any of you have been there? >> It's beautiful. >> It's neat. >> We'd be happy to take you with hard hats. [laughter] Um, but the upstairs will be a little more speak easyy, a little bit more um, I call it the grown-up vibe upstairs a little bit because we also want to be

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mindful of how people gather within the building. Um, and then just a little bit more library kind of nice feel. Um, and the walls are really cool. The walls are an old school Spanish style stucco uh, what is it? Stuckco brick, plaster brick. And they're like brushed and

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they're really pretty and they those are really solid as well. So, they'll be preserving a lot of those as well, which is really neat. So, you got to come in to see some of the history, which is exciting for us because we want that, right? Um, and then I will move over to outdoor um because I want to address

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something I heard earlier from um Councilwoman Coker. So, part of the reason we decided to submit for a grant, we've been working on this for a while. We've actually started the search for a building back in February of 2023. As um some of you guys know, we started with a different building. We had to pivot for

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multiple reasons. Um we're thankful for where we've landed actually because this allows a mom with a stroller or someone who's older to actually just stay and have the whole experience on one story. And before that wasn't an option. Um, but one of the reasons we're coming and we're asking is because um, this

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building has the opportunity for us to do a really awesome rooftop garden. And it is expensive um because we have to add steel and structure to the building to be able to expand its footprint up there and give ourselves and give the community the opportunity to do that.

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Um, we have been very intentional and so has our architect in how we do that. So, some of the things that if you get into the nitty-gritty of the details, even the floor selection for that rooftop garden is hurricane friendly. Um, it's a little bit more expensive an investment on our part, but it allows us to be able

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to address needs of the roof or the floor quickly in the event of a storm, which allows us to reopen faster and faster should there be one and not interrupt what should be about 40 to 50 staff or employees who work here as well as make a living there. Um, so that's one of the cool things you'll see

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outside. Um, we have lots of pictures of the outside. We won't have a view, so we'll do a lot of plants. So, it Did Mr. Mora leave? Because we can talk about plants. Um, because I got excited when I saw his plants. I was like, you can come take my sidewalk. Um, [laughter] so this is the back of the building.

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Again, something that's important to us and we're really intentional uh with our architecture team. They work a lot in downtown cities in Florida that's a lot like us, like Lakeland. and they were really helpful in helping us create a exterior to this building that currently

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houses some folks that we want to not incentivize to be back there. They really did a great job adding lighting um making it accessible from a safety perspective and a convenience for the deliveries etc. but also um supporting what we want which is really healthy

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community activity a walkability uh that people feel safe in. So that's Gather 242. Yes, ma'am. >> Where um where in the in the And I know this is all just conceptual, but where are you thinking about having the live

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music or or some version of entertainment anywhere thrown in? I mean, like, do you have a designated spot? >> We we're we believe that it'll be upstairs um inside where if you were walking up the stairs, you the bar is kind of to the right. Uh right across from it, we intentionally placed kind of

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two big areas where we can do a we can set up a stage and then take it back down. >> Okay. >> Any other questions, comments? >> No. >> I think that >> can't wait. >> Me, too. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Well, thank you so much for

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>> coming and presenting and all the hard work you all have done to move this project forward. Uh yeah, I think we're all excited. >> Thank you, M. >> Mr. Chairman. >> Yes. >> Even though this is outside of uh the policy that we currently have for

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grants, the board has done this once before with the professional building. Same historic uh in fact, the city council this morning deemed it historically significant in its meeting. So, you're lining up with an existing uh

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um line of thought that you've had before. Um it would it would you know, we like to keep things in line and not do get too far out of the box, but you've done this before where you have approved grants over over a period of

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time. And like all of them, um, they still have to get the property appraiser and get that that appraisal done, which they'd have to do anyway. But that's what covers us with the amount of investment we make is the fact that we

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can validate the investment they make. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Miss Barney, >> I'm going to ask you to do something. [clears throat] Uh oh. >> I'm going to ask you to pass the gavl to your vice chair who I believe is Miss Coachman. >> Is it coach?

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>> No. Is it Lisa me? >> You know what it is? Biz Gonzalez. >> Okay. I'm sorry because I was going back, you know, like >> who's he say vice ch? Who's the vice mayor? >> At least you >> Anyway, I I would like you to call for a motion

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>> and I'd like to ask the councilman from that ward to make that motion. >> Lovely idea. glad you've worked [laughter] >> well. As the vice chair, I would love to call for a motion, sir.

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>> I motion now. You put me on the spot. >> It's long. I got mine open if you >> Oh, that's right. I'm out of order. >> Yes. [laughter] Oh, hey. Oh, >> who do we uh please come forth? >> The vice chair says we must have public comment first.

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>> Motion before we let discussion, >> but public comment. [laughter] >> Public comment. She who holds the gavl makes the >> decision. I would love to have public comment. [laughter] >> Jean Brown, downtown citizen. Um just a quick comment and I know it's probably

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going to go well anyway, but um in a lot of the things we're doing in downtown now with Point Park and some of the other things that that we're going through and obviously that's a still motions things to go on, but Point Park College loved this because it gives an

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opportunity if at some point in the next three to four years we have 2,000 occupants downtown, which would be the the growing and I know Mrs. more for you. You say, "What's this going to help old manatee?" Well, it's going to grow old manatee and it's going to show old

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manatee that maybe a building can be remodeled into something and that's an opportunity. So, I just think that uh >> you know, it's it's a great opportunity not to start just for this, but it's also going to show that how we're moving off of Main Street and doing others

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which will grow other ways. So, thank you. >> Time never started. >> Yes. Oh. [laughter] I um I think a lot about placemaking and I feel like that you know the mayor's comments line right up with that. This is the beginning of us making a place

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for all ages >> which I love that focus. So if we're ready are we ready? Okay. I move to approve the request by Gem Collective 530 LLC for historic redevelopment grant preapproval for the property located at

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53013th Street West in a cumulative amount not to exceed $600,000 subject to standard annual funding cycles and compliance with all CRA program requirements and reimbursement obligations. >> Second.

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>> Yay. >> All in favor say I. I >> Okay, motion passes unanimously. >> Nice. >> And I will hand the gavl back, Mr. >> to my esteemed colleague, >> Mr. Senor. Uh, did I say your last name

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correct? >> Signore, >> thank you for clarifying because now I know what Jeff, Elizabeth, and Melissa >> Mimi. >> Oh, got it. Now out of order, but I now know what Gem Collective stands for. So,

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thank you very much. Thank you, >> Chair Shusler. I would uh like to take credit for that motion that [laughter] was written with the help of legal. We we crafted that one for you. >> It was It was nice.

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>> Excellent. >> Little wordy, but >> it had a legal connotation kind of a feel to it. >> Yeah. We wanted to make sure we covered our bases. Uh, you know, anyway, moving on. Um, so this is an amended

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redevelopment grant for AJA Business Holdings LLC. They have recently purchased a property at 25149th Street West. [snorts] Uh, on May 27th, they received a redevelopment grant for

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the replacement of their roof, which they've they've already completed. It's it's done. uh at that meeting uh Mr. Waro attended the entire meeting and stayed and and Dr. Burton had mentioned the possibility of increasing our

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redevelopment grants. Uh after early June, Mr. Waro reached out to me and wanted to start a conversation about investing additional funds into their property. So, uh Dr. Burton and I had quite a few different conversations and

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the end result was we don't want to uh hinder the private market from investing into their property as quick as possible. So what what the end result is is uh Mr. Waro and his team at AJ

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Business Holdings reached out and provided grants, I'm sorry, provided quotes for additional investment of up to $285,000. Uh I have a slideshow I'll pull up and Mr. Waro is here as well. But um the

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work that they're wanting to do under our current policy, they're they're they're maxed out. They would have to wait. they couldn't do anything else and apply for a grant until 12 months after their grant was approved.

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Um, our policy is built that way so you know people don't take advantage of it, but it's also does hinder them from, you know, continuing on and investing in their property. Um, so we we we decided we'd come in front of you and ask for a

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uh basically a pre-approval of a grant. Um so that basically they could move forward understanding that they are preapproved for you know an extra $100,000 because our redevelopment grant went up from 50 to 100. Um so that they

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they now have access to $50,000 from the previous approval since the increase of the grant plus an additional h 100,000 if you had so choose to to uh approve a preapproval of their grant. Uh

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this will allow them to work with financing uh different capital so they can raise capital and you know pay for this and have the have the confidence that it'll be there for them when when they're ready to go when they need it. So I have Mr. Waro here. I'd like to

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pull him up. He can briefly run through the presentation. Um so my name is Josh Waro here representing Platinum Live Productions. Uh we're a live production company. So we do corporate events, music festivals, um technology at churches, integrations,

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so projectors, video screens for all type of churches. Um so essentially what this building will start off as is our warehouse. Um what the addition additional um investment will allow was to create sort of like a um demo

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environment. So if I go to the next Okay. So, this is this will allow us to this is the before. So, this is what it is right now. Um, so essentially what it'll allow us to do is paint the outside right away. Uh, the gutters, roof is already done with the initial

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50,000. Um, [snorts] so this is the side exterior. Um, we also got a new fence. It's not installed yet. Still waiting on permitting. Um, it's actually on site. Um, so we're just waiting on that. Another picture of the rear exterior shows the fence. Uh we

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need to add garage doors because the existing garage door as you can see is I believe it's uh 7 by 12 which we can't fit any equipment through that. Uh the new ones will be 12 x 12 allow us to actually get through things through there. Um this is the inside. So before

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this so to give a little backstory the building was an old uh furniture rental house. So, we actually did a lot of the demo to get it ready to move in by August 1st to get out out of our current SP space. Um, so this is concrete now.

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It used to be old rug with uh water marks and stains from the old roof which was original from 1964. Um, so what we want to do is do a polypartic finish on the floor. Uh, as well as paint the interior.

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Um, and what this will be is along this wall here, what [clears throat] we'll do is we'll bring in churches, their volunteers, uh, set up equipment which allows them to train them, uh, bring in corporate event, uh, potential clients, current clients, set up stage designs for them, uh, so they can see what they

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want, learn how to use it, and things things of that nature so they can see it before they buy it. Um, the restrooms are in rough shape. I'm not I don't think um I don't know if anything's been done other than this building that was first built. Um so

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basically what we want to just do is redo the floor, paint, uh redo the appliances, things of that nature. It's definitely needs a lot of work. Uh this is the back warehouse area. Uh concrete finish, no paint on the uh insulation.

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Uh poly spark finish here on the floor. Uh garage door. uh landscaping is needs to be taken care of because it's higher than the foundation. So, we have to take care of that because the water Yeah, the water uh is starting to seep underneath under

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this slab. So, what we want to do is get rid of all that dirt, have somebody come in uh and essentially just do pavers or something that river or even river rock, something better than just dirt that's just there causing problems.

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uh do a little landscaping up front as well as repave the uh parking lot. And a lot of these openings used to be just open and they were finished with uh wooden stucco which is starting to

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crack. Uh the wood's starting to rot. So what we'd like to do is actually block them in and do it the right way. So yeah, you guys got any questions? So >> bless your heart. >> So [laughter]

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not not only are they >> That's my com. >> Yeah, it does. Ditto. >> Yeah, great building. >> Not only are they investing in in the building itself, which is, you know, core core component of the CRA, right? Removing slum and blight, increasing the tax base. They're also bringing their business up from from the neighbors to

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the south and uh bringing eight jobs with it to Sarasota, which the synergy between I'm sorry to Bradon. the synergy between uh what they do and the point park point park I believe >> park point park point >> point >> park park

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>> point park park um also hand in hand as well they're a live production performance company so that's a another asset uh for them and and the college themselves so our ask is that you uh

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you move to approve the request for a phase redevelopment grant pre-approval for the property located at 25149th Street West in a cumulative amount not to exceed $195,000 subject to standard annual funding cycles and compliance with CRA program requirements

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and reimbursement obligations. [snorts] >> Mr. Chair, >> so moved. [laughter] >> Okay, we have a a motion by uh Councilwoman um >> that's your side of the street. [laughter] And we have a second

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>> uh by Vice Mayor Coker. >> Um let's take a vote. All in favor say >> I. >> I. >> Uh passes unanimously. >> Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good luck.

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>> Yeah. Awesome. >> Okay. Moving along. Uh Dr. Burton, uh any other discussion, new business? >> Um just three things. Um

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>> one is uh yeah, one is um we'll be moving forward with the city council in the near future to bring a slum and blight study. Um we have to put out an a letter to all the taxing authorities

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um 15 days prior to a meeting. we need to get on the agenda for city council. This will be a a slum and blade study for the creation of a new CRA. Um we'll make sure we run it through the attorney's office to make sure that uh he'll either want to do a resolution or

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an ordinance. He can choose which one he wants and um we'll just it's it's textbook. So, uh from that point on then we begin the process of finalizing the map and and the plan. And then finally

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the trust fund. Um this is in line with uh some existing uh projects that are moving forward and um uh we want to make sure we keep in lock step with them to so that we can take full advantage of

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the timing. Uh, also to let you know that um, speaking of projects, we have a potential project that has gone through the entire process with the CRA on the old city hall site. We have heard from the city council

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uh, concerns of the the traffic and density. We are in the process of talking and we'll bring something back to this board regarding uh any ways that we can help adjust the traffic flow in

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that area so that as that project moves forward there are ways that we can we can help make their entry onto the city's thorough affairs easier and less on that curve coming on um Manatee

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Avenue East. um that will be probably coming forward in the next couple months. Um there's just some properties that are there. We'll we'll try and do a partnership with the city uh since this is is in this is transportation and it is new

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improved uh streets that potentially this may uh tie in with their impact fees for transportation. And then finally, just to let you know that um we're working with the city and the county on the GTE building. The

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county owns it. Um we're there is discussion about it being transferred to the city and then to the CRA. It would be partially to remove blight from the area because the building needs a lot of work. It looks a lot like his building

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which needs a lot of work. Um it would be something that we would invest in to bring back. It it has a historic uh ten tenor to it and at that point we would discuss uh what uses besides possibly an

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office for the CRA. Uh what uses would be um something we would want for that that piece of property then go out to an RFP. So um uh that is moving forward and just wanted to keep the board informed so

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that uh you are aware of that that is something that the CRA can do and falls in line with our plan multiple ways and um could be used to help stir the economy of the downtown. So that's the Chris. Do you have anything?

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>> No sir. Todd, >> go ahead, Mr. Campbell. >> Uh, just briefly, we have the BPD substation house that we put out for uh invitation to put it out for sale, and

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we received a a uh offer uh and the the app the offerer has has backed out of their their request to purchase that property. I wanted to uh let you all know just so you're aware, we are we're

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working in a partnership with the housing community development to advertise that house uh internally for city employees along with the $50,000 down payment assistance program that the

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city now offer or that the housing community development now offers u qualified individuals. I'm meeting with HR tomorrow. I believe we're all meeting together to to develop an marketing campaign and nothing, you

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know, extreme, but uh to get the message out. I just wanted you all to be aware that that was that was our intention with that property to get it off of CRA u the ROS and back into the to the private market. >> Can I ask a question? >> Yes.

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>> Is it on MLS? >> No, it is not right now. No, >> we have to. So, the intention we don't have I don't have access to MLS. Um, if if we don't have any buyers in 30 days,

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we'll we'll work with the uh approved uh real estate company that the city works with to to market it traditionally. But we want to we wanted to it's a brand new home inside out. It's been redone. we wanted to offer uh to city employees um

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as you know in it in in you know conjunction with the $50,000 down payment it could be really be a nice home for somebody >> did you have another question Vice Mayor >> Poker yes unrelated to that um now that we're in our budget t and we've got so

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many things going >> and back in the day when I was on DDA um we would have like a 10-year timeline that showed a projection of our income and our revenues and our output.

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I would love I I don't know if anybody can put something like that together, but I would just love to have a better better handle on >> where we are. >> We will uh we can do that with the preface that >> it's estimates. I get it. >> Well, no, not that >> amendment. >> Tallahassee

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>> ballot measure. What? >> The ballot measure. >> Oh, well, yeah. See, even that really >> Yeah, we'll be happy to do that. >> But I just, you know, >> Yeah, >> that's that's not a problem. >> Thank you.

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>> Well, I I don't know. Just stop me anytime. I uh I think that that's helpful information for us to have and, you know, feel free to tell us worst case scenario and best case scenarios. Um, but I just I I've already expressed

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this to staff that I don't want us to slow down. I I don't I'm not I'm not I don't think that we should shy away from procuring contracts and entering into contracts with anyone. And I think

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that's what uh brilliant legal minds not such as myself are for if there's a fallout after November. But my thought is we do not stop what we're doing. Full steam ahead >> for what it's worth.

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>> Understood. [laughter] >> Any other >> one out of five. >> And that is what we're doing. Yes. >> Okay. Great. >> We haven't noticed. >> We can fight about it later [laughter] >> prudently, but we are. >> Yes.

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>> I like that. Yeah. That's it. Any other comments or discussion? >> Uh that being said, uh we are adjourn 3:38 p.m.