i'm Good morning everyone and welcome to the Braden City Council meeting Wednesday April 9th 8:30 a.m in the city hall council chambers as we always do in our great city of Bradenton we start out with our invocation and our pledge and this morning we're going to have lead
pastor Sam Raineer with West Bradon Baptist Church we'd all please stand thank you let's pray our heavenly father we thank you for the blessing of living and serving in this wonderful city i ask for your
guidance and discernment for our mayor for our city council for all the employees lord I also pray for the homes that are represented here because Lord when families are healthy our community is healthy and so God we just ask for
your blessings on everyone that lives here and it's in your son's name Jesus I pray amen amen is is can the veterans in the room raise your hand we have any veterans in the room obviously um we'd like to thank you for your service and
um really celebrate that and if you all can kind of start us out with the pledge today allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you everyone and thank you pastor at this time we'll call the meeting to order madame clerk the first item on the agenda this morning is a proclamation for autism awareness month which I'll
read on behalf of the mayor whereas autism spectrum disorder is a complex developmental condition affecting millions of individuals worldwide characterized by challenges in communication social interaction and
behavior and whereas individuals with autism contribute significantly to their communities demonstrating unique talents perspectives and achievements and whereas increasing awareness and understanding of autism is
essential for fostering acceptance inclusion and support for individuals and families affected by autism and whereas the month of April is dedicated to promoting autism awareness and encouraging the action to address the
needs and rights of individuals with autism and whereas organizations advocates and communities work tirelessly to provide resources education and support for individuals and families affected by autism now
therefore be it resolved that I Gene Brown as mayor of the city of Bradenton Florida do hereby proclaim April 2025 as Autism Awareness Month and encourage all citizens to join in spreading awareness showing support and fostering a society
that embraces diversity and inclusion sign Jean Brown Mayor thank you Madam Clerk uh Chief Kevin um thank you Mr mayor uh as you can see here in the back and and here in the row and as I'm speaking if you all um can make your way
up to the podium to include manager Knight um this is a Headland family they're going to introduce themselves but very recently uh they came to our agency um from across the state i know yesterday uh they drove across the state had to spend the night last night just
to be here for this proclamation today uh to provide training for all of our officers i know the fire department sent some representatives the state attorney's office um some various agencies throughout the area and and their message is powerful it's strong
and I I think it makes us better as an agency and as a as a community to hear what they say i have to give a shout out to to Manager Knight she saw their name in a paper a few years ago um they they were kind of smaller at at that point um that they were providing training to
police organizations and she gave them a call and they've been our our community partners ever since so if you want to hear from them from tell us about the shirts first so these are autism awareness shirts um we actually partner with uh an organization up north they
held a golf tournament last year and all of the proceeds from this golf tournament was provided to the Braon Police Department their foundation to support autism awareness and education and that's exactly what we're doing with this money these shirts and and when we
get the badges they'll come in soon we're going to actually have autism badges and these shirts are meant for people to ask you "Hey why are you wearing the blue po polo with the uh the color on the sleeve?" is to talk to them about this you know what autism's all about and how it impacts our our
community and our police department thank you welcome good morning i couldn't have said that better myself my name is Margie Hedland um as the chief said I serve on the board of the directors for the Autism Society of Florida we are made up of parents we are all volunteers my family and I travel
from Pensacola military bases to Key West fire departments we train military and first responders how to communicate better with people with special needs we are a law enforcement family i'm a retired public information officer and my husband just retired after almost 37 years in law enforcement but the stars
of our family are our sons this is Martin say hi friends hello dalton you say hi friends hi martin and Dalton are 18 years old they were both diagnosed with autism when they were two and a half and when they were diagnosed uh the world told us a bunch of things they
were never going to do and we decided that wasn't okay and take matter and we took matters into our own hands didn't we yes they didn't speak until they were five and six years old and now they never shut up but we love it it's a good thing so five years ago Captain Knight like the chief said saw an article in
the magazine and called us and said "Hey would you guys come to Bradington?" We did uh this pastime was our third time being with y'all and we keep you guys very close to our hearts we take y'all very personal so much so that when she called a couple days ago and said "Hey can you get your board member that lives
around Bradington to come to a commission meeting and say a few words we sat in our house 5 hours away and said "That's our town." Uh-uh so we loaded up the van took him out of school and here we are um we love y'all you guys do it right your police department your fire department everybody we've
worked with um just amazing captain Knight is such an amazing host when we come the hotels know us the restaurants know us they know why we're here and I don't know if you guys saw after we were here two weeks ago your public information officer she did a post and shared it your community loves you for
this they went nuts thank you Bradington thank you you made the families living with kids who have special needs in this community feel loved you made them feel seen and you made them feel heard and um before we leave we just want to schedule our nest training because we love being here and just thank you to the city of
Bradington you guys are amazing and you do it right thank you so much that's us thank you hello everybody hello everyone and I I appreciate and and
and thank you for thank and thank you for bring inviting my family over to Bington many times to educate your first resp and police forces about autism
thank you adult you want to say real quick cuz he'll just keep talking say hi hi do you like doing your autism trainings yes yes all right thank you guys so much and we can't wait till next year to be back thank you
we want to get a picture so yes please i love photos you guys want to come up here and we can kind of line up sure wherever you want and when mom retires what baby when mom retires me and Don will take over
retirement thank you bracelets for friends daddy you have more thank you stand by mommy please everybody got Rob you got one yep i like to be in between there you go look your friends in the
audience jane turn sideways am I doing Oh everybody in there well now I'm right behind Look straight ahead pretty lady and dress there you go look at pretty lady in white shirt everybody look a pretty lady in white
shirt don't forget the ball guy on the All right thank you appreciate you coming down thank you you guys are awesome uh Councilwoman Coker so much thank you guys for coming yeah I just wanted to mention that um I recently
very recently had um a member of our community who there was an interaction with a special one of our residents um in on her street and she was complimenting i know she reach she talked to the chief um about what a
positive situation it ended up being and could have been you know very concerning so I just what what you're doing keep doing it because it's working thank you anyone else thank you appreciate it yes ma'am councilwoman Coachman and I would
like to say as a speech language pathologist I have the honor and privilege and pleasure to work with students that have ASD and they they make they make my job fun and they make
my job interesting and they make my job feel good interesting is a good word yeah y'all please forgive me we had your your board member that lives in your community she just walked in she's a few minutes late but I want to recognize Why don't you bring her up to the podium so everybody can see her come say hi
yeah and I think it's something that that obviously Chief Bevans and her whole group does a great job at and getting it started we've seen things on social media and TV where sometimes you know a stop or if they don't have the education they don't understand that
there might be a little bit different of a need to help and that's what we've been important to us years and we've trained collectively over 10 we've trained over 10,000 people and I use y'all as an example when I go to other cities that's all right that's just Samuel he's
relaxing it's okay um and I was telling Captain Knight that usually when I leave a city I have like four or five people that write at the bottom the evaluation we want more information I had over 53 from y'all that's wonderful that means they want more information they want to learn things we give them sensory bags
to put on y'all's fire trucks And you guys are engaged this town doesn't just sit and listen to the trainings they respond they engage y'all are amazing it It speaks to the police department the leadership it's great you You comfortable Samuel are you good welcome
Samuel and this is Miss Annette she You don't live in Bradington you live in parish but she is also on our board of directors and we love Manatee County manatee County yes well welcome and thank you for what you do for for the education and and getting the information out thank you Daniel for
coming all right Samuel samuel thank you madame clerk item 3B is National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week Proclamation whereas emergencies can occur at any time that require police fire or
emergency medical services and whereas when an emergency occurs the prompt response of police officers and firefighters is critical to the protection of life and preservation of property and whereas the safety of our police officers and firefighters is
dependent upon the quality and accuracy of information obtained from citizens who telephone the city of Bradenton emergency communication center and whereas public safety telecommunicators are the first and most critical contact
our citizens have with emergency services and whereas they are a vital link for our police officers and firefighters by monitoring their activities by radio providing them information and ensuring their safety
and whereas public safety telecommunicators of the Bradenton Police Department have contributed substantially to the apprehension of criminals suppression of fires and treatment of patients each dispatcher continually exhibits compassion
understanding and professionalism during the performance of their job now therefore be it resolved that I Gene Brown as mayor of the city of Bradenton Florida do hereby proclaim April 13 through 19 2025 as National Public
Safety Telecommunicators Week in Bradenton in honor of the men and women who diligence and professionalism keep our city and citizens safe sign Jean Brown Mayor thank you and who do we have here today
i'm gonna introduce Brad but just to say a few words first as everybody knows I do personalized birthday cards every uh every birthday card that goes to one of our comm center employees recognizes the fact that we inherently know that they
are our lifelines they they keep our officers safe out there they monitor their every step their every minute without them we are nothing um they are our connection with life saving with the community uh they mean everything to us we only have Brad here who is our uh
manager because all of his other employees are working or sleeping and it's just kind of hard to to bring him here ever since we we moved but I think you see in the back of the room a cadre of officers and supervisors uh who are here in acknowledgement and thanks for
for what they do every every single day they are just a critical part of our family of everybody's family and we we can't thank them enough i actually went out to the building yesterday and realized it doesn't officially start to the 13th so I just circled it and came back you know but um what they do is
incredible brad uh just want to say thank you for your continued support uh it does mean a lot uh we've got a communication center that uh I believe we have two that are there uh with our city for over 20 years two of us that are uh over 15 years and I
want to say four or five of us now that are uh over five years so we are retaining uh good uh employees who are dedicated to the city so thank you well Brad I just want to say thank you i know there was some transition that we did a
few years back and getting into the comp center we're in now kind of tying in with the county and and that was a little bit of a a heavy lift at the time but I hope things have have smoothed out like we know and and uh really made it better because number one thing is
serving the citizens and I think through all the storms we had last year it showed that you know it was a good move and I know through fire and there was a lot of angst at times but it seems seems to be working pretty well so vice the
collocation with the the county uh or communications so it definitely increased the uh quick ability to to move our first responders to the correct locations as quick as possible so it's definitely shown uh as a good decision
thank you Vice Mayor Kramer uh thank you Mayor uh Brad congrats on this week it's a recognition of the hard work you all do all year um the mayor mentioned during the storms I mean your your people are at risk coming in to to cover the shifts but we really appreciate
everything you do thank you all right let's get a picture but I want everybody from the police department up here for this picture around us yep just leave it off at this point
it's warm anyway turn sideways wait on your back foot lean up he's kind of a lost they They can zoom in on the picture well here's another one he's even taller than you
that's all right you guys are the important part that's it stand up tall oh perfect thank you thank you everyone appreciate it thank you tell everybody
they're true responders madame clerk our next proclamation is for National Arbor Day April 25th 2025 whereas in 1872 J sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of
Agriculture that a special day be set aside for the planting of trees this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska and whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the
nation and the world and whereas trees can reduce the erosion of our precious top soil by wind and water cut heating and cooling costs moderate the temperature clean the air produce oxygen and provide habitat for
wildlife and whereas trees are renewable resource giving us paper wood for our homes fuel for our fires and countless other wood products and whereas trees in our city increase property values enhance the economic vitality of
business areas and beautify our community and whereas trees wherever they are planted are a source of joy and spiritual renewal now therefore be it resolved that I Gan Brown as the mayor of the city of Bradenton Florida do
hereby proclaim April 25th 2025 as National Arbor Day and urge all citizens to support efforts to protect our trees and woodlands and to support our city's urban forestry program by planting trees by planting trees we help to promote the
well-being of present and future generations and enhance our community sign gan Brown mayor thank you who do we have coming forward for this welcome good morning um thank you all we don't
have any representatives from treeboard here today they're a volunteer board so they have a meeting next this this Friday um so hard to get them out here in a morning but um I do just want to point out that uh they've had a couple giveaways of trees thank you very much um that those funds come from our tree
and land preservation board um and they have some upcoming giveaways at the public market April 26th and May 31st in addition to an April 19th event at the Dream Center thank you all right thank you i know that
um the excitement and I was at the Karen's here be speaking in a minute but at the market come up come up get a picture we want to get a picture you got to get in it but um the I know they were giving out the trees keep manity
beautiful and that and gave out several hundred trees that day and people wanted more so it's a good thing and we appreciate the market allowing them to have a space to give them out and is what what all of the groups do to to keep that going so come on up get a
picture we're going to get Mr dong and Miss Robin in it so keep them going going to wait for Miss Singer tell them they could have got in the picture you're fine
thank you appreciate you guys keeping that board going madame Clerk our last proclamation this morning is for Turning Point's 30th anniversary month April 2025 whereas Turning Points has been dedicated to serving the residents of
Manatee County for 30 years providing essential resources support and advocacy to ini individuals and families facing homelessness and financial hardship and whereas since the since its founding Turning Points has worked tirelessly to
prevent and reduce homelessness by offering vital services including housing assistance community resource navigation services medical and dental care employment support and basic needs assistance ensuring that individuals in
crisis receive the help they need to regain stability and independence and whereas Turning Points has built strong partnerships with local businesses nonprofit organizations faith-based communities and dedicated volunteers who have
contributed their time talents and resources to support its mission and strengthen our community and whereas the impact of turning points is evident in the thousands of lives transformed through compassionate care innovative programs an unwavering commitment to
making a difference in the lives of those in need and whereas on this 30th anniversary anniversary we recognize and celebrate the dedication of Turning Point staff board members volunteers donors and community partners who have
worked selflessly to create a brighter future for individuals and families in the city of Bradenton now therefore be it resolved that I Gene Brown as mayor of the city of Bradon Florida do hereby proclaim April 2025 as
Turning Point's 30th anniversary month and urge all citizens to continue their support of such a worthy organization signed Jane Brown Mayor thank you and who do we have here great group good morning and welcome morning
we appreciate um all of the support that it takes to do the work that we do i think people are very surprised when we say we serve over 9,000 people a year because they go "Wait we have 9,000 homeless people in Manatee County." But they forget that 80% of the work that we
do is preventing homelessness 44% of Manatee County lives paycheck to paycheck doesn't have enough money to support themselves if they needed to pay their bills without a paycheck for two months and that's the snowball that can end in becoming unhoused and so these
folks here our board our volunteers our staff do tirelessly work it is it it's hard work and we love doing it and we are so thankful for the partnership there is no one agency that will ever
prevent or truly end homelessness on their own it takes the people the citizens the city the county the businesses all of the other nonprofits coming together to do the work to support our neighbors who are in need so
we would greatly appreciate the partnership um that you have given to us over the last 30 years as we keep growing and evolving and changing and trying to meet the changing needs this community doesn't look the same at all and we have to keep evolving so we appreciate that partnership and our 140
active volunteers who are the heartbeat of the work that we do so thank you so much all right tell us about what you have coming up pretty soon May 2nd our event uh we have a fun sometimes you just got to have fun and
we do uh with our hats heels and bow ties event i know some of you come and and join us for that it's a lot of fun chief Beavenon always gets up there and struts her stuff on the on the catwalk for us um and we really appreciate it it's to raise money to continue the
important work and to raise awareness um sometimes like I said you just have to have a little bit of fun and and and enjoy each other so we also have uh this is our 30th year of course so we have open houses that are happening throughout the year we have one this
Thursday that's uh they're 5 to 7 p.m you can see uh all of the other dates on our website because we want to educate people again people are shocked at the amount of work we do to prevent homelessness you know we just started a partnership with uh the Manatee County
School District to take families with school-aged children get them out of their cars and out of the hotels and into housing and we just started that at the end of the year we've housed six people we have about seven more who are ready to go into housing in the next couple of weeks and these are you know
children who will not have to have that experience and the trauma that comes along with uh long-term homelessness and so we want to educate the community there's new things happening if you came last year you're outdated come back we would love to have you come and take another tour and share the word because
we do believe that we're the best kept secret in Manatee County so comments before I go um Mr barnaby Miss Barnaby and then Vice Mayor Kramer please let us know a little bit more about the event about the tickets and how to get them
and what they cost thank you margie was probably going to give me an elbow out of the way here in a second um so folks can purchase tickets um online at if you go to our website tpmanateity.org um you can call Turning Points we can walk you through the
process as well um and purchase uh it's May 2nd it's a lunchtime event at the Grove in Lakewood Ranch it's a lunch it's some fun uh it's an auction so we have uh raffles and silent auction items what else should I share what did I miss
on the catwalk he's been on the catwalk many times yes he has but tickets are $75 and there's tickets available and sponsorships are available too absolutely vice Mayor Kramer thank you
sir um thank you again for everything you all do um I've been fortunate to be on the leadership mante board for the last three years and the day I facilitate is human needs day and I always reach out and sometimes the last
minute to Kathleen but that's because she knows that I'm going to be bringing uh the class there to see everything you do and it is interesting how it changes year to year i can attest to that over the last three actually last four because of my class um that now the
partnership with Goodwill for uh clothing is really uh gonna help the entire area so thank you anyone else before I say some things um I think we have an opportunity the other day we met at the county meeting with Dr our butt
that is going to give us an opportunity as I said and I know Kathleen Miss Kramer you got up there and talked greatly that we said that we as a community are going to make a difference it can't be just the city's problem or it can't be Turning Point's problem it's got to be and I say problem we're
helping people but we're going to sit there and we're going to make a difference for our community manatee Countywide um at our April 30th meeting workshop we're going to have a presentation by Commissioner Ballard and we'll probably just watch the video of
Dr marbut's speech so it can tell what we're doing as a collaboration and I think we have opportunity and I'm confident this council is bought in to when the right times to make the right ordinances and the right things to help
that will show people that we're here to make that difference and I say we as a collaboration of all of us because again none of us can do it in a silo and we got to make it together we've got to work for the good of the whole and I'm confident we have that group going now
so I appreciate you guys and I know um 30 years is a long time but it's not it's just the beginning so and just looking at you smile Miss Kramer tell us a little bit about your your dental program that's won national awards so just because that makes confidence in
anybody is what makes the difference so give us a little quick we just won another award that's why I was saying the Tampa regional award uh recently in partnership with uh Manatee County who helps uh fund that program project Smile has been happening for a little about 11
years now um helping people who have uh who need dentures because their smile has been deteriorated through lack of care and lots of different reasons um and so a smile is your presentation to the world we have many folks who come to
us not only not able to eat properly eat and chew uh they're in pain but also just the self-esteem that comes along with it and they cannot we've had many tell us they can't move forward in their career their job their boss has said "You're great but I can't make you a
manager because then you're customerf facing and this isn't the representation I want for my business." And so uh we have a completely free dental and medical center at Turning Points and so we serve about 150 individuals every year are able to get a completely new
smile they put the work in it's about seven appointments they have to some of them have to have full mouth extractions gum recontouring i mean it is a lot of work and they know though that new smiles equal new opportunities so they hang in there and they love it and that's one of my favorite programs
because I'll hear like clapping and cheering coming from the other side of the hallway there it's always somebody who's strutting out with their new smile for the first time and the the team will clap for them and cheer for them um it is it's a confidence booster it's a
gamecher for folks and our the individuals who come have no insurance so they wouldn't be able to afford this on their own they are low-income uninsured Manatee County residents and we're proud to serve them with that program all right thank you Margie
mar hold on you got to get up and say one last thing um and it's not the event but tell us about Be the Keys Society that if people are watching they could how can they help absolutely um so the Be the Key Society is a fabulous group
of donors who believe in our mission so they make a pledge every year for five years to keep us going they know what we're doing they now we don't have to start at zero every year so it's a fabulous group we have a lot of people in this room um that are BD key society
members including on the board us you know and it's really it's it's just it's a testament of who we are and our community and us working together to serve everyone so just go to turningpoints.com and find yeah
tpmanate.org um and go to the be the key society and anyone can join it's just making a pledge for five years and I didn't realize it was only five years i thought it was lifetime well just yours this mine thank you all right thank you come up can we come up here and get a
picture thank you isn't there a former board member out there in the audience he's not listening thank you appreciate you guys [Applause]
like leans a certain way with the legs here all right thank you everyone for that indulgence but I think when we look at what happens in our community with all the events that go on and and Bradon is still a small town when you look at
who's in this room and and what we do and what people try to do to help each other so I think you know we don't have a lot of proclamations like that every time but but it's worth celebrating those proclamations when when they do come up so madame clerk we do not have
any presentations scheduled this morning okay so we'll get to citizen comment and um citizen comment will be accepted during the citizen comment portion of the meeting of any non-aggenda items agenda items future agenda items or
topic of relevance to the city comments will be accepted on the public hearings at the appropriate time we do remind everybody this is the business meeting so as far as you know making comments from the audience or gestures or noise or applause or booze it will not be
accepted because this is a business meeting we we're going to respect you we also are going to ask that everyone address the dis properly if you're talking to a council member our attorney our administrator our fire chief our police chief or any of us up here you do
address them with the proper titles as we respect you you need to respect the DAS so at this time I'll call Karen Corbin and please state your name your city of residence and you'll have three minutes good morning everyone i'm Karen Corbin i'm the executive director of
Real Eiz Bradenton we are on um Many Avenue West in Bradenton i'm here today um as all of you know BAMFest was held this weekend and I know that many of you here and in this room um attended on
Saturday i truly hope that you and your families thoroughly enjoyed the experience i plan on coming back later at a later date and sharing a full report about the event however I'm here today to say thank you on behalf of
Realized Bradon team and thousands of community members who came out to celebrate with us on April 5th we thank the city of Bradon for your support from the initial planning stages to the final cleanup commitment to Banfest was
incredibly positive we went to specific we want I want to specifically acknowledge the incredible efforts of several key departments to the Bradenton Police Department we extend our sincere thanks
ensuring the safety and security of all of our attendees your assistance prior to the event and all the way through made our attendees feel relaxed and and safe um and they enjoyed the
festival we appreciate you and all that your team did because we kind of called a lot asking a lot of questions but thank you so much um to all that worked in the sanitation department your team was nothing but phenomenal
the seamless and efficient way in which they managed everything from the setup through the evening to the cleanup was remarkable you worked tirelessly behind the scenes to make sure that Riverwalk remained clean and welcoming for
everyone we appreciate each and every person on their teams and finally to the public works and the utilities department I swear by the end of this event we talked to every employee you had we asked more questions we asked more favors and everyone did it with a
smile like what do you need what do you need it was truly amazing their support was instrumental in the smooth execution of Bamfest the many site visits phone calls conversations made a significant difference in the overall success of the
event yes we still have everybody's phone numbers and you probably will hear from us again on the next event vanfest is more than just a one-day event it's an investment in our city's cultural landscape a platform for local artists
and a catalyst for our community connection which is so vital to us mayor Brown you and everyone sitting up here on the dis and all of your city workers we thank you for your ongoing confidence and support in the work that we do and
bring together the people of Bradenon and Manatee County for this event your partnership is invaluable all right thank you all right next we'll have Rodney Jones we'll get more on that welcome Mr jones please state your name
your city of residence and you'll have three minutes sure hey greetings rodney Jones um I'm here again because I put on the record last week that we have a confirmation from the Bradenham Police Department uh due to a public records request that Chief
Beavenon uh denied me of my 14th Amendment uh due process and equal protection under the law for years for not doing any of the complaints that I've been down here filing for years that you all have seen have admitted that I've been down here none of those complaints have been investigated no
case numbers no findings that's against the law it's a violation of Florida statute 838.022 it's official misconduct chief Beavenon shouldn't be sitting sitting at in anywhere in the city of Braden right now but it's because of you all that she's allowed to break the law and
continue so last week I I'm I filed a complaint another complaint with the Braden Police Department got my first case number ever from the Braden Police Department never got a case number before i got my one naming Jean Brown and Chief Bean in official misconduct for not doing not only my investigations
but numerous investigations from the community this is going to cost the city of Braden millions of dollars in damages i'm just here to help so what I did was also went to HR because what Gan Brown is doing is using third-party investigators to circumvent the
processes for human resources she Chief Beavenon is an employee she goes through the same processes as everyone else what you see here on this map is the smoking gun and this is why everything is going on this is a map of stolen property this came from the property appraisers office
it was con it was confirmed by Ken Burton and tax collector that this document is fraudulent um this document actually belongs to the state of Lutheraware who we came in and filed a murder complaint on January uh 3rd and 4th of 2023 shortly after I was arrested
in a in a meeting here did silence me and they did not do the complaint and the complaint is there they gave us a fake case number and not one of you who took a sworn oath of office to protect to support protect and defend the constitution will ask one public
question of anything I'm saying and we've got it on the record i want to alert I want to alert you that the feds are on to this we've been doing we've been following uh Jean Brown Mayor Poston for six years we've got enough information to have everybody up here including each one of you elected
officials we've got enough to have you federally indicted because you've sat here for years when I've been coming down here and other people coming down here and we don't have one investigation on file it's against the law so once again I'm doing my due diligence i'm building a case against all of you
that's why I'm here i've been told to come and keep coming and keep coming and doing it and not one of you so Pam Coachman you're excuse me sir address her properly pam Coachman as a as a council woman pam Coachman sir it's a free sir it's a freedom of speech i address her how I want properly to this
pam Coachman pam Coachman you're my uh Ward Five you need to ask them just ask Chief Beon is anything any element of what I'm saying true that's all I want you to do save yourself don't follow up with these corrupt people because Pam just the fact that you're black barbara
person tiggney if I said that right tiggney tiggney tini however you like to say okay thank you please state your name for us correctly and and your city of residence you have three minutes my name is Barbara Pson Tersini I live at 13
Columbia Street Braden Castle Park and I just wanted to come to give everyone good news about last week's water testing on the Manatee River we were at 31 CFUs which anything under 70 is safe
so that means fishing and swimming all those things you know we're good we tested water yesterday i don't have those results yet but it's good news for the city and for everyone and and I just wanted to let you know that so maybe no
storms maybe less things happening but uh I just wanted to make you aware of that because we really do appreciate everything that you're doing you know we know everything takes time and we know that we may not always have the patience
that we would like to have on certain instances but I just want to let you know that as an individual getting to know the city of Bradenton outside of Braden Castle Park I'm enjoying getting to know all of you and seeing what you
do and how you treat the city and how you treat the people so I just want to let you know how much we appreciate everything that you're doing and that working together moving forward we I'm an optimist we believe that all good
things will come from it so thank you thank you next we have Gary Penoyer please state your name and city of residence you have three minutes thank you Mayor gary Penoyer i also live
in Braden Castle i'm the um on the board of directors there and I'm also the dock master there what I bring for you today is uh first of all I would like to tell you how much we appreciated your support after the storms everything you did um
you made some promises that you would be there for us uh my issue now is is I don't seem to be able to get build construction permits through through your offices uh I'm trying to rebuild the north dock that was destroyed in the
storms um it's been 90 days i I'm new at this and I probably part of this is my fault things that I've done wrong um so if it's not my fault I was just wondering if there's I I understand the
severity and and what you guys are going through but I was just wondering if there's ways to you know put some best practices at use here to streamline some of this stuff for things we're not new construction in any way i don't know uh you know here you have a novice here
wondering why we need the type of investigation and and and research done on something that's been there 70 years that we're trying to replace and and bring up the code um is just the timeliness of this is is is is a pressing u I'd appreciate anything you
could do for us at this point in time to move this along if there's anything I can do please let me know uh again thank you for all the support you've given us so far i just ask that we uh if you could uh do anything you could for us to
get this moving along this is you know one of our amenities it's a cash stream and we're trying to get up off of our knees down there and um I I just have a little bit of a feeling that they're they're standing on my neck a little bit to get this done i I'd just like to do something about that thank you very much
okay thank you next we have Linda Seabolt good morning if you state your name your city of residence and you'll have three minutes good morning i'm Linda Seabold and I live at 315 Crescent Court Bradenon um again to I want to tell all
of you guys how much I appreciate you guys every single one of you and what you also did for us during the storm we are neighbors uh to uh Braden Castle my concern today is the location of lift
station number 13 that lift station now has been a temporary lift station for um approximately 8 to 10 years right now um the lift station that
is out there um it is on wheels it is more temporary than you can ever imagine and um if you do get a chance I'd love for you to come out and look at it it is uh something that um right now there is an old septic
tank that is serving as a well this external pump generator is providing the the work the muscle so we already have the temporary so I don't understand why we would want to take and close off the
street in between homes and to where now we'll be looking at a white vinyl fence instead of the river and um I hope everyone got the email from uh Miss Regelman that lives
at 2432 um it will affect her the most out of any other neighbor but again thank you guys and um I I hope we start to work on uh the
permanent solution which is lift station number three i personally do not understand why we cannot do that i have no fear of anything falling into the river and I would stick my life on that
thank you thank you we have Chris Moore please state your name and your city of residence and you'll have three minutes something yes you can set it down there on the You can set it on the I gave I
gave you all my Okay may I have one of yours sure you can use mine Chris oh is that this oh that's what you need right it'll come up so okay um thank you mayor city administrator and council
people my name is Chris Moberry and I live at 254 Riverside Drive East Braon i'm a retired civil engineer who spent 38 years at Manatee County sir if you can speak up a little bit louder for the microphone sure i'm a retired civil engineer spent 38 years at Manatee
County Public Works in charge of designing roads sewer storm water capital improvement projects because my background I think I'm uniquely qualified to help my community understand and navigate the issues regarding lift station 13 item 8B on
your agenda on March 21st city officials were kind enough to come to our community and meet to share their plans for the proposed temporary lift station fix of lift station 13 because it was determined that the lift station cannot survive another hurricane season after
the trifecta of Debbie Helen and Milton page one shows my understanding of where the city is proposing to locate the temporary lift station 13 right in the middle of 2500 block of Riverside Drive East which is only 20 ft away from the
existing lift station for a cost of 500,000 during our meeting we were told the temporary lift station would be 5t higher than the existing seaw wall height also my understanding is that the public rideway connecting Crescent Court east and Riverside Drive East will be
blocked by the highlighted six foot high tall fence for 3 to 5 years while the temporary lift station exists page two shows many reasons why this location is not a good idea including regular flooding during sunny days the Sabbolds who live in the
affected neighborhood have offered a vacant lot next to their home is an alternative location for the temporary lift station which is shown on page three the alternative location has many benefits is listed on page
four page five outlines an excerpt of the technical details that The temporary lift station will work in the alternative location on the Sable's vacant lot this was fact checked by subject matter experts from engineering
firms specialing specializing in utility plant lift station construction has been sent to city engineer Ken Clayback page six shows the important manity type data and in between
the lines that represents when water enters into the road 22% of the time for half the year and about 30% of the time during the height of hurricane season page seven is a picture of me standing
in the road during one of the events this is a sunny day i'm 6'4 and the water is almost up thank you sir um moving on we have Marcus Hyde please come forward and
you'll have three minutes thank you you have three minutes and please state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes good morning my name is Marcus Hyde i live at 2410 Riverside Drive East just a few houses down from that gentleman
right there i've been listening to this generator run for eight years i'm a 100 yards away from it 24 hours a day seven days a week it gets very wearing for all of us especially for Mrs regalman who
unfortunately cannot be here today because she's suffering from cancer i'm trying to speak on her behalf also as mine uh this this generator station and everything is a real eyesore it's also a value problem it decreases the values of
all our homes uh I think it's a wonderful idea that Mr and Mrs seabol have offered to offer some of their land off that site for temporary use for over two years at no charge to the city i think this could be a great savings to
the city of putting in all of this work and all the fencing and everything and then in two or three years have to remove it and repair the the injury to the property it'll also keep Riverside Drive and the traffic rolling around it open by putting it on Mr and Mrs
seabold's property i just think it's a wonderful idea for the city to do this very thing i think it's good for our neighborhood it's good for the noise the peace and quiet of the people that live there i've lived there for 50 years i
love Bradenon i love Manatee County uh one of previous gentlemen uh Bill Evers was a neighbor of mine for many years uh I I just respect every one of you and I know how hard you all work so please take this into consideration and move
this lift station over to Mr and Mrs seabull's property it's out of the way it's off the street it won't block traffic and it'll serve I think a real good purpose and I think it'll be just as easy if not easier for the city to connect into the sewer lines from that
location that's my two cents and I hope it helps thank you sir have a great day folks you too all right i have no other public comment cards um so at this time we'll close or citizen comment um any council members and I think on the lift
station 13 we'll save that till we get to it but is there anything else on citizen comment um I've got some but I want to miss Councilwoman Moore i noted it to do word comments but I'll just um just in case
you were going to touch on it um I appreciate the Braden Castle people coming out to give public comment and I also appreciate my neighborhood people coming out um just a uh a note of appreciation that you're active and participating and and really expressing
you know what's happening boots on the ground kind of thing um about Braden Castle as well I just also wanted to throw out there the canal so that we could follow up on the canal i think that um that she spoke to water and that was my note was that I just want to remember to come back to that um I think
that was it all right thank you all right a couple comments I have um on permits and I I saw that Mrs singer had given you her card so she can help you with that um on the water quality testing I I get those reports and I um
Tiffany or PIO pulls those off for me every week and it's kind of interesting to see where you know Braden River part of it is in the green where it was a little bit in the yellow or red but the Manatee River was in the green last week
and now it's a little bit in the red so like I had said at our last meeting some of that information I think is flowing and literally because where are we at um in the time of the year because I I try to look at it think why I think part of
that is when people fertilize when people do things up river that's you know not in the city but it flows down um when we have rain as we know that um even our Sarasota Bay estuary is off the charts We know that's the Tampa Bay
estuary but they're not getting a lot of worse results than than we're getting they're getting similar results and we see more seaggrass so sometimes that just by nature will die and and cause an issue um and then again I would hope
that all that are testing the river would test it to the river quality not swimming quality because there is difference with when you walk up to a sandy beach and you go in it compared to a river that has a lot of homes on it
that things are flowing so we really need to judge things and again I'd like the green because that's even more holding us to a standard but I think there's opportunity to keep um keeping that information out there that when there's good things you talk about the
good things when there's things we can improve on but it's all of us it's the fertilization it's the boats in the water it's the oil off if if people do swim it's the oil off of them it's the animals it's everything but you've got to take it in a whole collaboration so you know that's something that for years
I've been studying now to make sure that we're doing the best we can without other stuff so thank you for that um talking about some different cases that are out there and I think Chief did you have something you wanted to say real quick on part of
it i uh it's you know I hear the same thing week after week after week after week after year after year um I obviously will tell you that these have all been looked into however in in the rare instance that we may have missed
something I have Detective T perry seated back there as soon as Mr jones would like to go into the hall she represents the internal affairs unit she is going to uh take another um recorded statement from him and we will pour over it and make sure there is something that
we have not missed over um the past decade and uh be able to assure you all that we are doing everything we can do so um we're going to take that extra step so that looks like it's happening right now all right and and again I
think that sometimes when you sit up here meeting after meeting and get bashed about things from individuals that have spent time in jail that are by jury trials have been contempt of court
and spent time in jail and as elected officials we got to take it more than than we have to our employees don't have to take it as much but I'm as my wife says all the time I signed up for this and I'll take it but when there is
straight out lies out there I'm not going to take it anymore and you know it's not about using the public form it's not about using the citizens money it's about protecting the integrity of a city and people that are out there
running so when cases have been investigated and closed when there is no case when there is no police report because there was no accident there was no anything we need people to realize you have every speed uh uh freedom of
speech but you don't have a right to lie and I've got a report here that I would you know that I would like people to eventually see and if somebody wants public records ask for the public records but when people put in the newspaper just lie after lie after lie
they got to be held accountable just like I expect people to hold me accountable if if I lie but in all of my years up here as a councilman as a volunteer for the city as a businessman in this city there's never been lies to
the public you may not always agree pu uh politically with somebody but it's got to stop and when people put out lies and medical examiners do investigations and people do investigations and there is no murder then we can't just keep going down that path and I just feel
that it's time for somebody to stand up and and some of that I wasn't even mayor and the headline says mayor covers up and then has my name in it it's got to stop and you know I don't know what it
takes to stop it but when somebody doesn't even get public record they don't even talk to the supposed victim then stop and you know we have sat up here and listened for years and I've I've just had it with that and
whether you know I just want people to realize judge the person for what you do if you differ politically with any of us then let's talk and and work things out but don't lie about something um I don't Miss Coker did you have something i thought you grabbed the card but Well I
was more going to talk about water but you kind of touched on it all right all right so moving on madame clerk item six is the consent agenda and staff is requesting approval of items A through I
chair will entertain a motion motion to approve consent agenda okay by Councilwoman Coker is there second by Vice Mayor Kramer mayor I have had the opportunity to brief all counselors on uh item the totality of item six on the
consent agenda thank you Mr perry any further comment hearing none we'll start the vote in W two yes three yes four yes five yes one yes carries five to zero madame Clerk item 7A is the first public
hearing for resolution 2548 with the CRA pam yes sir mr perry Mr mayor Jeff Burton executive director of the CRA this is a resolution deeming a Speak up a little bit or kneel down
closer to the microphone kneel down deeming a piece of property the CRA owns as a brownfield site uh following state statute this will follow up with a second hearing on the 25th of this month I believe um we just ask that uh they
move forward thank you all right and the first public hearing and the second public hearing will be set for April 23rd all right anything else we need to do mr rutell
you need to open the public hearing mr mayor public hearing for now all right so chair or we'll open the public hearing for resolution 2548 from the CUNI redevelopment agency anyone wishing to speak anyone wishing to speak anyone
wishing to speak hearing none we'll close the public hearing chair will entertain a motion we don't no we don't need a motion oh we second it move it to the 23rd get used to doing it so all right so we'll have it on the 23rd of April second reading and public
hearing madame clerk item 8A is city hall minor office remodel mr perry thank you Mayor mayor before we get to that I just wanted to introduce someone uh real quick and say thank you to someone else uh Pam Skeleton's in the
back of the room and and she came in and she's been uh doing some great work for us obviously with our SHIP grants and and CBDG and and some of the other um outreach programs we have where we basically provide uh
uh federal funds state funds to folks in the community and uh Pam's at that point where she's going to be retiring soon i think this week is her last week no yep yep yep unfortunately and uh with her is someone new that's coming in Deedra Barfield who
is really has a great background and has um been wellreceived by everybody they're very impressed with with Dedra and so you know it's sad to lose one person but always it's nice to have someone behind them um and we're going to continue to get a second um person
over there because really it's a two a two-unit shop is the best way to describe it but I want to acknowledge Pam and also introduce the address to to the council so why don't you come forward now that we know you're retiring in a week so you'll be gone before the next council meeting so we obviously
want to say a few words to you i would love to say a few words it has been a great opportunity and privilege to work for the city of Bradenton i've enjoyed my position i've enjoyed working with the residents and being able to
help them with home repairs to stay in that affordable housing um so it's just been a great experience and um thank you so much for the opportunity i really appreciate it and our new housing specialist Dietra good morning everyone thank you good morning D barfield
thank you yes yeah go ahead councilman Coachman Mrs skeleton you know how I feel about you and and and your hard work and what you brought to the department um because it
was lacking and it's bittersweet um I I I'm happy for you retirement is probably the best thing in the world you can do right now um but just want to say I appreciate you and if
I'm tell your name again Dietra Barfield if Miss Barfield was selected by you I know she's good to go yes she is she's learning quickly it's a lot to learn but she's uh getting up to speed and I'm here another week ne into next
week to help her with any questions and I told her I am available just a cell phone call away if she has any questions after I've left so I think we're in good hands i appreciate you and thank you so much and as you pass the torch welcome
to the city of Bradon thank you Miss Barnaby miss Skelling every time I've ever called you've been there you've had the answer if you didn't have the answer you said "This is a new thing for me let me figure it out and I'll get back with
you." And you always do that and as someone who sits up here being able to get information promptly and get correct information to give our citizens particularly when you're dealing with federal money
um it it means so much your your trustworthiness your work ethic your sense of humor i appreciate you i appreciate everything that you've done and I hope you enjoy your retirement thank you and
Miss Barfield there are big shoes to fill however I'm my money is on you i bet you're going to be a wonderful asset for us so welcome thank you Miss Barnaby counciloman Coker yeah as as a realtor
in my other life um the whole American dream home ownership it comes with a lot of challenges and you've been there as a stop gap to help people and I really appreciate all of the hard work and and the heart that you put into the job it
wasn't just you know it wasn't i definitely It was definitely a hard into it and and I want to thank you on behalf of our community and I hope you're not going too far because we've got some great volunteer boards that you will be you could be a great resource for but uh
thank you and best wishes and I can't I'm looking forward to working with you as well thank you thank you thank you very much thank you i'll just say one final thing obviously echo what everyone has said and and I know um sometimes your job wasn't easy because you were having to make decisions that you know
whether somebody got a new roof or whether somebody got this and if they qualified and if they didn't and and of course during the storm season last year you know with all this going on and I think um you know the CDBG money that has come in has been greatly used for our city and there's going to be some
CDBGR money that we're going to be getting through our county for some of the storm stuff that I think that you know with your toutelage it's going to be a lot that has to be done even though we're going to be working with the county um getting 32.7 million
$11,000 will be good for our citizens to make our town better so we appreciate everything you've done and we look forward to to working with you Miss Barfield so thank you you thank you everyone i appreciate the kind words and I'm gonna miss working with all of you it's been a pleasure thank you Brad
thank you thank you Mr perry i'm glad you brought that up at that moment because I saw him leave the room and you ran out mayor the other item council the other item on the agenda is uh I wanted to give you a little bit of a heads up on what's happening out in the city hall uh
foyer area reception area right by the CRA um you might have seen some fairly minor construction and there's some plastic up and sheathing um we're basically trying to office wall that in so that create another office um we have
a new permit manager coming in um and we're trying to basically make some additional space and we're trying to do that economically and so that project's like probably we're thinking less than a couple thousand dollars we did it internally and you probably see some of our folks from facilities doing the
framing and drywall um and I just since it's your all's building I wanted to make sure you knew what was going on and stand for any questions on that any questions i Yes ma'am miss Coach I don't have a question about that but it came
to mind after you and I spoke um for that briefing um is it possible that we could consider making it a little safer to enter into the um um council area i
mean we already have two doors with the FOB or or the the badge to get in but there's still two individuals that are somewhat exposed is it possible to have Well well it's it's certainly possible but we'd get it basically try to
probably get a security uh person and utilize PD as well generally speaking what you're going to have to increase security in those types of areas what I've seen is kind of a sally port a two-stage entry basically where there's one door that has to be opened up and uh
then that door has to be closed before the next one's opened up yeah but one of the things but but it's a significant investment without going through the guard at the front true true nobody unless somebody just walks up there but everything everything else on the second
floor isn't exposed to the point that you could just walk in the door even you know even it was just a thought point a good point everything else I think to your point everything else has access entry only
look at that the door to count i don't want to talk about security on publicly it was just a thought maybe when we when we get together talk a little bit we'll talk about it you can figure something out okay all right perfect mr mayor yes ma'am um I believe that um Mr perry's
looking for a motion to approve the remodel for the space outside the CRA office i don't think I really need a motion unless you'd prefer one um it's within the budget for facilities and it's on the agenda so that's why we're doing it yeah well yeah it's just just
notice i don't stay up nights trying to come up with ways to make your life harder all good on the work on the work that's already started yes and and that is underneath the limit that he has authority to spend it just kind of it
was an update more than anything but if you want to that's fine i mean it's up to y'all if you don't think we need it if you're comfortable with it I withdraw the motion i was just following the agenda yeah all right thank you little rule follower me next uh next item 8B is the lift station
temporary relocation and we've heard a little bit of public pel comment from some neighbors um as several of you know you've been out there um it's it's a fairly significant improvement capital
improvement that we're trying to do to the city's um wastewater utility and Kim Claybback is here to talk about a little bit i want to just give you a little bit of background i think you know I have briefed each counselor on it and and
obviously council woman Gonzalez Moore uh has helped us tremendously and trying to get the community there to improve the communications and explain a little bit about what we're trying to do why we're trying to do it and how we intend to do it um the issue regarding that
temporary lift station being on that pork chop is problematic i think we all recognize that and we are looking at some alternative locations that are very nearby um to place that temporary lift station really what we're doing is we're
lift station 13 was originally built I think in the 1930s as basically a drain that went into the river there probably weren't many homes on on Riverside Boulevard back then and as time developed the system down there for
about 160 to 180 the number has varied homes it's a gravity system it runs downhill towards the river and that lift station 13 um when you heard it was a former septic tank at one point it was but it was also reconstructed and it's
got a deep well the system itself has the the structural components of it is the concrete empowerment enc casement is about 16 in thick it's deteriorated down to 4 in and it's basically compromised
what engineering is concerned about is that it could fall in the river and if it does there's some fairly bad consequences as far as what we'd have to do to those homes that are on that system and so they've been working on
this pro project for a long time and what they want to do is basically shut down 13 take it off the river where it shouldn't be in today's modern days there's lift stations down on River View Boulevard as well back in the old days that's what you did you ran your gravity
systems for your sword down to the river and you put it in the river um I guess when there was one or two three people they didn't worry too much about it right yeah and everything but now with you know so many people that it's a real problem so as an quick aside to that
Lance and I were in a meeting yesterday with Curran and their financial solutions team and the state of Florida is getting $1.6 6 billion dollar from EPA that'll go to FDM and then come for awards and there's three there's four three categories mainly storm water
sewer water and potable water and $20 million caps on each particular category per applicant and one of the biggest things they want to do is start getting list stations off the rivers and off the off the waterways of the state of Florida because it was legacy and it's a
real problem now when you think about it being a problem it's a problem from a lot of different multitudes because when you get these types of rains we've had and storms for last season and pretty much every season in July right it's the wet season and and we get a lot of rain
and precipitation the highest of the annual uh rainfall that what ends up happening is you get that INI so that basically lift station is kind of underwater and so are the manholes that surround it even if you go down to that
area on a on just a rainy day with a king tide type situation Riverside Boulevard is pro Riverside Drive I'm sorry Riverside Drive excuse me drive riverside is is probably six eight
inches of water on the roadway and it takes a while for it to to clear up so what do you think happens to our source system when that kind of water ination happens or a stor storm it's underwater it gets into your system and basically that's what is causing the o part of the
ini the inflow and infiltration so you take a system that on a dry day is circulating six to seven million gallons a day and all of a sudden you're bringing in the river and you're bringing in the storm and you're going up to 30 million gallons a day so you we
better solve the problem it's not just a problem for those 170 homes it's a problem back at the plant it's a problem at the outfalls that go from the plant if we have to discharge because of those capacities but it's also a problem to that local neighborhood um the project
before you is basically to do the better part of three things the first thing is there's all rear laterals in those homes I referred to in that area i mean they come out the back of the houses and uh they have to be basically re redone and
so we looking at a $6 million project which is sizable for a relocation rebuild of a lift station first thing we have to do is the laterals in order to get the laterals we have to get construction easements and things like that to access the property and and and
agreements with the property owners to allow us to do that we're we'd be paying for it the city that I'm gonna ask the question then why do I living in a different area of the city have to pay for private laterals it's to the benefit because I
had that question come from res from from a public utility benefit taxpayer standing type issue i think it's to the benefit of the entirety of the system um you're right that arguably it's not your lateral if you live on the west side of the city or someplace else and so your
rate is partially paying for that at some level but I think it's beneficial into the entirety of the system because you're eliminating some of this problem that's contributing to the water plant overcapacitation issue so there's different ways to look at
that indirect benefit i live in West Bradon and I have a lateral problem is the city going to fix it for me it would depend if it was if it rose to this level it would be a policy decision that would probably come through engineering to myself and to you all for approval
about whether we should do that and in this case it's part of what we're doing um but we have No but I think this is important for everybody to understand that we have approximately 20,000 accounts
give or take a few 16 16,000 accounts give or take a few um so 170 out of 16,000 is and I'm not arguing that it should or shouldn't be done i'm just saying I've already got this question
from somebody that lives in W 2 why are you not going to pay for my lateral if you're going to pay for somebody else's lateral it's a fair question but before we get to questions can I just I got a very little bit more and then I want Kim to kind of take over i would like to speak to that though if I make my We
come back to it no let her speak to it because I think it's it's going to open up because there's other people with the same situations that are going to ask that question and I want to have the dialogue Sure about it because we're all going to have to explain that when it comes down
to it so go ahead Miss Moore um well I would I would like to highlight this picture of Mr mo Breeze if you all don't mind putting it on the emu and expanding what the um what the lift station looks like um I want to clarify what we're doing and Miss Clayback can correct me
if there's any if I'm getting any of the science wrong but the matter before us is the question of whether to spend $500,000 on a temporary lift station to take lift station 13 which is currently on the river and looks like this if you could expand what it looks like i don't know if we have the capability to do
that but I know Miss Barnaby is familiar and I know that mayor is familiar but I think that it would benefit everyone to know what this particular thing is actually looking like and sounding like and smelling like um the issue of the private laterals is
a small piece of something that's much bigger um so again the matter before us is whether to spend $500 on a temporary 500,000 yes i'm sorry excuse me on a temporary lift station to remove what you're looking at which is the lift
station but also a subpump generator if I'm saying that correctly um that has been there for approximately eight years um that is a separate project from a
bigger project for which we have 50% matching grant funding that is to expand lift station 3 which is located approximately three blocks south of this uh lift lift station 13 and then actually build an entire collection
system currently the pipes and the laterals coming out of the houses are going in what I would call some kind of chaotic spaghetti uh you know wherever was the closest in the 30s to get the house connected to this thing on the river is what they did so they're
through yards there's no rhyme or reason now to where the laterals are located um the collection system has to be completely brand new in the rightways um and then they h we have to go into
people's yards and dig out the old ones for the new collection system to work the laterals have to be replaced and so to answer the question why would we make an area suffer this for a hundred years eight in
recent times that is just unacceptable in my opinion um with this current situation why would we do that and ask them to you know they pay taxes too and it's because they're there's a multitude of different
reasons um when you say they suffered for hundred years nobody on this board or in this city that works for the city now built that system back then um it was probably fairly common again to run sewage to rivers i don't think that
makes a lot of sense these days but but I'm speaking to the question of why we should make them pay for the private the question that has been raised by specifically why they should pay for that why would the city pay for the private laterals when we have to rebuild an entire collection system right a
collection system that has been in need y of replacement for it's a fair question it's a question of policy that I think you all have to make so and it's it's a good point you're making um but I will tell you that in a lot of cases there are assessments for infrastructure
special assessments that are levied by utilities we don't we don't pay we don't make sidewalk site specific no we don't do sidewalks there are many services that we provide you're right no but utilities is a rate is a rate service whether it's electrical utility or we're
going down the path i know we we are we are going sideways my only point was I've had that question come to me now that this has come up because Ward four is old ward two has some old ward three has some old we're talking about infrastructure in our downtown that we
have a lift station what's that number over there eight that is going to have to be moved that we're going to be um moving at with uh the development process of paying for it so I'm not saying that it's right or wrong i agree one of the things I'm going to say right
out of the box when Kim showed me this what six or seven months ago I told you you were nuts to put it on that pork chop if you remember correctly I said "What other options are out there?" But then it took about storms came and we had to delay it so and I'm not saying that you're nuts obviously but I just
didn't think that was the right way i think there's options other than on private property because one of the things I heard today from one of the residents that we were going to be given the the property now
there's also restrictions that I heard after that so I want everything to come out today that I would rather spend money on something that we can do temporarily if we have to buy a piece of property and then sell it later at least
we'll be able to recoup the property somebody giving us a lease and then charging money after so many months is not a give and that's what I want to make sure that we all know is that true or not the way it was put to me by councel who I think has spoken to that
individual and I had a brief conversation on site with councelor Barnaby um I think it was on Monday was that there would be a two-year period where it would be free and then there would be a very large lease payment which would incentivize the city to complete the project within a time
specified i think the councelor referred to me me as what do you call that a liquidated damage provision but one of the problems with that particular proposal is basically we don't control how long it could take there could be three storms there could be supply chain
interruption and the like and I don't think that there should be windfall opportunity because of force majour type issues such as that or otherwise now the the site itself and the proposal is good in a lot of ways because it does take
that particular temporary lift station and it's called a pack and we got bids for it it And we're looking at about $400,000 three closer to half a million half a million right we're going to spend the money no matter what we do temporarily right and and one of the
things is is that if you look at that photograph that's down there right now on that that's a bypass pump and it's it's got a generator on it basically and it it it circulates the water back to where it can be evacuated out of there
at the list station and so uh it's not you know it's compromised that is not an ideal situation we heard the one individual talk about it was running 247 and you know during storms it does it's unsightly it's loud it's ineffective it's compromised it's it it it's limited
capacity it's It's not good at all that picture actually looks makes it look better than it really is when I go by there I go "Oh my god it looks like a jerryrig to me." It's inaccessible they can't fuel it during It turns out they can't get to it to fuel it and and one of the things is
is that some of the neighbors said "Well you know we've waited this long why don't we just risk risk it?" I don't think the city should risk that particular thing collapsing into the river because the options to those neighbors could be individual septic
system of value i don't want to waste $500,000 i also don't want to risk millions of dollars of fines and shutting down a neighborhood miss Moore and then we can get Yes because I want to speak to the proposal about where to put it and purchasing versus leasing and
the notion of liquidated damage number one that is all up for negotiation so to the extent that there was an absorbent amount or windfall I think that that's not set in stone and that that's that's something that's movable and that we can deal with but also to the Miss Moore I
would hope you weren't negotiating on behalf of the city before of course not absolutely not just want that said so people can yes i was absolutely just listening to residents yes um but I just I want to I my comments are this is a little out of order but I think that
it's an appropriate time given you know maybe some concerns about residents having windfalls or whatnot to speak to in my opinion there's I have the list of contractual questions that probably will be more directed toward Mr rousil but let's put that for aside for a minute
there's an emotional component to this project even I will get emotional about it um that temporary thing I I would just like for all of you to imagine that you live across the street from us and that the city tells you for eight years
that this is temporary would you trust the city when they tell you that they're going to take up a rightway and put up temporary in it and it's just going to be temporary but would you be able to say to yourself "Yes based on history I will
trust you city of Bradon and you will follow through and it will be temporary and that will not uh you know be a problem for me for another eight years." I tell my kids when they mess up and they ask me to trust them again I tell
them "You can't ask me for it you have to earn it you have to build it." And it starts with listening to them right now and not accusing them of mount of you know and I'm not saying that you're doing that but I'm saying I just want to be clear about the intent here right and I and I agree with you 100% and you know
I get as emotional as anybody I feel very strongly about it you have more more uh reason to be emotion because what you've been through over the last six months and still aren't in your house so that but the thing is we have to take out the emotion up here and try to figure out what's going to get it the
quickest what's going to do it the best and we were not eight years ago it's not us we've had but but let me meet we have changed that culture we but if you don't do something now then and I'm going to
say it because I'm a broken record on it the third bridge we let somebody stop us because of stuff and I say we it wasn't us it was the politicians of 30 years ago and we don't have a third bridge now and it's traffic this I don't want this
to be another situation where we argue argue argue till it basically kills it till we have a problem and I'm not saying we're doing that we're dialoguing which that's why I'm allowing it because I think there's a solution here i don't know what it is yet i want them to do it suggestions but but that's what we'll
get to at the point but we also you have to take out the emotional part of it to get to the good of the whole and that's as a council person yes I fought for war too but I also fought for the whole city but there was times I had to say okay
what is going to get this done the quickest the cheapest and I say cheap not cheap from job but the least expensive from a citizen standpoint to save money because that's all we look at so we are trying to get this done you're darn right i'd be mad if I lived right
there but I also want to get it done and this is a different board well yes and if I could speak to that I get that it's a different board um but that doesn't really matter to them um and so I and they don't want to hear that honestly that's what I'm hearing they don't want to hear that kind of thing they want to
hear that there is going to be a shovel in the ground for Live Station 3 that's what they want to hear and I don't blame them that's what I want to hear um and also they want to hear about a timeline even if it's going to change um because when we you know it's of course I you know I understand um and I have the
privilege and I said this yesterday in my meeting with Mr perry I have the privilege of asking for meetings and popping into people's offices but they don't and and I want to be able to reassure them with that information and I and I would like to know that while I appreciate very much that we're we're
going to dig up some roads and we're going to dip dig up yards and we might find something that now the project takes six years instead of three to five i hope this doesn't happen but I I appreciate that it's in the realm of possibility but we need to communicate that so in my opinion the way that you start building this trust is number one
you take seriously the alternatives that have been presented to us for location and number two we begin with haste to schedule the community meetings that we need to do i think we need more communication i don't want to be perceived as withholding information
because it could theoretically change that doesn't foster that trust that doesn't build that trust that we frankly on behalf of this neighborhood have got to earn back we might not have caused the problem but it is now incumbent upon us to begin the hard work of listening
to a history an area that has historically been forced to deal with something that none of us would want to deal with in our neighborhoods and now we are the ones that have got to be responsive to it in my opinion no I I think that's my opinion it's everybody's opinion up here
and that's why I want the dialogue i want that opportunity and that's my personality is face it and fix it that's why we came up with it and not face it and fix it in 10 years it's face it and fix it now these two can say every meeting we have if we don't get funding
this year how are we still doing those projects with the money i asked them that i don't care if we get the $8 million this year from the state we're still doing those projects that's the $8 million where is that money coming from because we have the SRF loan we have the other money coming in so I'm totally
agreeing with you but we also have to make some decisions to get the stuff started i'm going to let Councilwoman Coachman and then we'll And then Mr perry I'm sorry but I think this is good dialogue i do i do too and I want everybody to hear it because we can't talk anywhere else we can't talk with
the public as much and and the public knows out there especially a couple of them you got my cell number and I do answer the phone even though your name pops up so the Councilwoman Coachman thank you i just want to kind of clear the air in
terms of referring to this as emotions or emotional because and now I'm I'm I'm going try not to get emotional myself when you say something is emotional you almost kind of it's almost like being
dismissive what you're seeing is a result of historical now this is eight or nine years i represent people in a ward where historically it has become a culture to
be put kind of to the back burner okay this council my first term and as we're going now we are trying to resolve that that feeling of what the
community has about us and unfortunately though we weren't there 30 years ago or whatever we have to accept the responsibility of it and we need to fix it and we need to be fair about it no
matter what part of the city it's in old part new part and I guess what what I just don't want it to continue being dismissive because you we're emotional
yes we are but it's because of a culture that has been established and we're trying so hard to reverse it and and let's just really say that and let's really do that and let's tell people that we are listening
we just can't be up here saying "Oh well it wasn't our fault but but we're No we we we really need to tackle this." And and and thank you Miss Coachman and I'm going to to dialogue with you a little bit there
because one of the things that that I think is so important is actions and I think you've seen the actions from the leadership here through the the pol political or politicians that we are the actions are doing it some things we all
talk about it all of us talk about it how slow things are you know in the real business world you might want to do it but also to our citizens and we need them to understand that just because you've asked it it can't happen tomorrow
we've got to get that process and I think this is a perfect dialogue and you know it's easy for some people and we're even seeing it in other areas of our county that they are dismissive they don't go to meetings they don't show up
to things there's not a one of us that won't show up to anything especially me and I don't care if it's something I agree with or no I'm going to get the pitchforks or not but we've got to get that going we've got to get processes we've got to do things that are going to
make things happen sometimes yeah if somebody has some things we know there was a piece of property we wanted to buy but because it was down the path too far we couldn't buy it that was going to help our wastewater system so if you go too far down a path and then stop it then it stops the project and that's one
of the things that that I'm trying to keep moving i've got Councilwoman Coker and then Councilwoman Barnaby and then Vice Mayor yeah i I just feel like it's a little bit counterproductive to to be up here and to say we can't be
trusted and that to me I I I really don't think that's the way to go and as far as and I don't think it's productive to pound the the the counter and scream and cry and all that i think we're all professionals we all love our city we
all want to make it better i don't think there's one person up here that's not we might have a differing way and I understand but to sit here and say we can't be trusted I I I really find that counterproductive and so I hope we can
not do that anymore because I think everyone is committed to finding a solution um and I personally want to rely on the experts um because it's a difficult situation
what's in the past is the past and I think the more we can cannot like we've said we are all committed to this we all love our community we all want it to thrive we all want to protect people's property values i weigh all of that in all of
this so I I just would with regard to some of the comments that have been made that I want to be um clear on that thank you Councilman Barnaby thank you Mr mayor um this this historic
neighborhood has had issues over the years um and it it doesn't help that we're seeing things that used to be considered 100-year storms we had basically three
of them in three months basically um it doesn't help that something that used to be kind of rare like a king tide is happening all the time and it's happening up and down the river it's happening on Riverside Drive it's happening at Riverview
Boulevard uh we have to we we have to represent all 57,000 residents up here and we have to be cognizant of that i I think everyone up here wants to see
this done sooner rather than later i hope everybody up here recognizes how complicated this is going to be um one of the questions I have is that
when we start going out and and trying to get what authorization we need from the residents that is a time variable that that we can't say because we're going to
have to have to be meeting withund [Music] 180 households and I recognize that I'm probably going to get grief
from my ward as to why are we paying to do improvements on private property property with the laterals but I also recognize the bigger issue that we have with the infiltration into our system
that's causing us massive issues and who's to say that we might not get a grant to be able to do more laterals in more neighborhoods i don't know that but what do we estimate the time is going to be to try to get those 180
households to come on board with what we're doing that specific task order probably I'm taking a guess but but probably four to six months best case um that would be best case the time frame
for the project is the the time frame for the project first we have to get the lift station 3 design completed we've done a preliminary engineering report we have all the parts and pieces sized we have to do the pipes
and the ground piece now once that's done we'll put that out to bid and we're going to build lift station 3 while we're going through this process with the design and construction of lift station 3 we're also going to be designing the collection system in
tandem it's a parallel effort it's not a one after the other kind of thing and with that while we're designing the system we have to start preparing all the documents for the the right to enter the right to
change their systems you have to have plumbing permits on private property and you have a utility contractor in the in the right-of-way space so we have to start coordinating diff a different trade to work on private property and
how we have to work with the building department on how are we going to get those plumbing permits issued and recorded so all of that's going to be happening in the first one to three years as we are designing the collection system and getting all our ducks in a
row and the 3 to five year time frame I'm hoping we can start sooner than three years but three years is probably the right time frame that we'll have our ducks in a row to start building the collection system lift station 3 is already built it's going to be in
service working on Braden Castle actually because it services Braden Castle and as we work through the system the new collection system that right now as as Mr perry had said it all flows to the river currently because that was the
standard at the time it was built we've got to reverse the flow so we've got to have it all slope back so it can come down Second Avenue um so there's there's a change in grade underground for the piping system but that lift station will
be built and in service before we have the collection system complete and the 2-year time frame for the private property that was discussed is great but two years isn't enough time
for us to get the collection system built and in service and not have all of the ducks and the eyes dotted and the tees crossed and our ducks in a row because it is a huge public outreach effort we've got to talk to those homeowners not just once not just twice
but probably five or six times as part of our process it's not a it's not a one-off it's not like we're building in the road and we're going to pave it and go back we've got to again redirect their laterals we've got to come back and abandon in their backyards what is
that going to look like we've got to explain all of that to them as well so it's it is a process we've never undergone before in the city not anywhere but we have to do it and in terms of rear these are all in rear easements these pipes and these laterals
we're talking about it was all built on private property and the way that they built the easements where the property line is there's a 5-ft easement on one side and a 5-ft easement on the other side for utilities that gives our crews a whopping 10 feet to work in to
maintain those pipes but there's fences there there's trees there's sheds there's pools there's patios we found a manhole under in somebody's living room this week so Uhhuh that was in W one sorry Mrs
koker but there are all of those things that have happened over time and we are wanting to address them and be upfront with everybody give you realistic time frames i'd love to say magically wiggle my nose and it's all going to be done in
a year and a half that's not going to happen but we want to do the project right we are concerned about the property values there moving the system into the roadway is an increased property value as opposed to having a sanitary system in your backyard so Kim
I think one of the biggest concerns that I've heard and and gone through is the uh if we're saying one to three years to do this and then three to five years to do this are we working simultaneously so we can you know it's not that we're
saying we're going to do one thing and then do the other everything's going together and right we're starting here right the pathway for lift station 3 is a shorter path the left lift the pathway for the collection system is a longer path they're going to be starting at the
same time but one will get done quicker but if we can get the four to six months done now obviously some ownership will change and things will go but now we have that permission for those and it may sit for six months but at least it's there right then the other would happen
that's that's what I think that's where people don't trust government and I don't trust government for that but you know until we see it and that's what we want to do that's what I think we're hearing and that's why we're wanting to do it let me get to Vice Mayor Kramer and then Oh oh you still had it i
thought you had stopped no no no no no oh okay so we have to have all of these laterals dug and and done is everybody going to try to find a plumber to do it are we going to look at
doing setting up a a proposal where there may be one or two approved people that say they can come in and get it done and get it done the way we need it done i mean how I I see this is being fraught with peril and that's why I'm
asking it is it is a difficult project and we will have more than one plumber that will be working on private property as part of this whether it's two or three that I can't answer yet um that's in the details of what it's going to look like when we get out there that's
six if we did it for three that's 60 laterals for each that are running the length of the property to tie into the main line and the road so we we are going to be looking at that and that will be part of when it goes out to bid how do we how do we include that
part in our bid and that's going to require some language from council as well um for working on private property and the communication with the with the residents it's not just going to be us it's going to be the contractors and the
plumbers that are also going to have to communicate it is the our construction inspector that's out there it is a a a daily daily ritual for those people to talk with the residents that are out there where we're doing construction they don't do anything in a bubble
they're out there anyway this has got to be an advanced effort okay maybe with this explanation we understand why that pump was there eight years no unacceptable no but but but it's a
complex very agreed but no let me have Vice Mayor Kramer well so a lot of what your presentation just now really your Kim's compact presentation answered a lot of the questions I had um but the
one that I think we all have is still why would that have still remained there like that that just isn't a good eight-year solution be it temporary or not like that and the fear everybody has going forward is that whatever is going
to be put there is just going to be the same thing i think I speak pretty generally for everybody on that um but we are looking to move forward and I think that with what the professionals have
put forward this is a good plan i think there may be some more discussion to be had about locations and but I think the idea of getting everything done has to start sometime and if we're ready to start that now start it work on it don't hurry but
don't rush you know we need we need we need improvement we just don't want to rush through something and I think that's what everybody's afraid of we we looked at several options so that all of you know um we lked looked at
building it rebuilding it in place and based on current building code and where our electronics and our fuel has to be in a storm that has to be 18 in above where the water is going to rise to so
you're putting a generator up over my head and then building up from there because that's where it has to go and the So can you give me a foot estimate i mean are you talking one story two stories three stories what are you talking about so when we're building on
the river FD looks at sea level rise so they're looking at where sea level rises and then they're also looking at because it's on the water you can't look at a 100red-year flood plane but you have to build up above that um building code requires that anything electronic is 18
in above the flood waters and where the flood waters may be eight feet we know that in what happened last year that that's not good enough it's not good enough for all of those people to stay in their house because if we can't if
the if it goes out if this if the the system goes out and we lose electricity we have to have a generator to continue to service those houses because it's going to back up it's going to that you can't evacuate the lift station so
anybody who's staying in place they they can't flush they can't shower they can't do anything except recirculate into the river or my estimation is just above my head so at least 5T is where the bottom of the fuel cell is going to go and then a
generator generally sits on top of a fuel cell we could put them side by side but again you're building a platform up here we just redid the one or not just but we did redid the one at Manatee um
Manatee Hospital and that platform is right here on the bottom of the platform um and it is further away from the seaw wall than lift station 13 is and that's to get the electronics and
the backup system out of the flood plane kim what do we have on 20th Street in Riverview Boulevard the pump lift station riverview that's lift station six right and that is actually behind the fence it's difficult to see but it
was built up it's also not the best location it's still in a flood plane but in terms of criticality of getting stations out of the flood plane lift station 13 was number one lift station 8 which is downtown is number two
lift station six is in the next three um but you don't see the one on 20th Street and it seems like is it in a building or is it No it's behind a brownish color PVC fence right but you don't notice it unless and
I don't know those and the only reason I'm asking is because is there ways you can do other things that we can get done quicker if we purchased a piece of property close to that lift station yes the long-term vision rebuilding that
lift station right where it is was going to create an eyesore putting it in the pork chop at the intersection of Riverside and Crescent Court was simply the conceptual idea to start the process rolling is it tied specifically to the
pork chop no moving it to other locations absolutely but to rebuild that lift station in its entirety even if it was off the pork shop in a permanent location there is going to be about $2.5
to $3 million and then nothing gets remediated at anybody's backyard and you're still you still have your old laterals and you still have all of the clay pipe that's in the rear easement so the INI and all that's not fixed but we can't fix 16,000
laterals in the city if we had to and and maybe there's not that many obviously but there's going to be some in other areas and others are going to start coming well when are you doing mine and that's another thing that we'll bring up at other times but I I again I
know and Mr perry I thought this was the best dialogue because it gets some of the stuff out um I just if if you get miss more you go ahead and then uh let's let them finish then we can even dialogue a lot more because Okay we got I don't have to be anywhere till six so we're good uh I think that um I think
it's important I think it's important to um I I also have some contractual questions like I said earlier but I want to address um what residents of other wards are telling their representatives um because I do care about what the
other wards think and I want to um I guess alleviate the concerns that they might be having um to the question about I appreciate both of what you two said because I think that you
um I I think that you reiterated something that I was trying to come across which is that uh whether we like it or not or whether we think it's counterproductive there is an element of trust there just is and and there's no point in my opinion in acknowledging or not acknowledging the
history that that these residents have experienced it's an experience it's just it is what it is for them just the same way it is what it is in someone who's lived for 40 years in Councilwoman Coachman's ward or 50 years in Councilwoman Barnaby's uh ward um and
again it it's not that I I think we should come away from from taking offense to that you know I've only been uh on council for not even three years yet but I sit and listen when they're angry you know that that's part of the job um that's part of the collective in
my opinion um but to alleviate the concerns about who's paying for what and what what they would want to have happen I would ask the W 2 person who was concerned about the payment of the private laterals would you want to continue would if you lived there would you be okay with that would you be okay with
hiring your own plumber and paying for your lateral and the pipe that goes to the manhole if you had lived in a collection system that operated like this you know for as long as you could remember um and also I will say that I think that we all are very aware that every resident of the city every
resident of the county I would say even residents of the region care about the health of our waterway and this whole soggy mess contributes when we hear read the articles and get the backlash this
directly contributes to those problems if we don't fix this we haven't we can't check that box we haven't fixed we haven't faced it and fixed it yet um and so I would say you're you're going to have to make a choice um but those kind of comments I will just say very pointedly don't reassure people that
have this need when they hear things like "Why should I pay for your stuff?" I mean it's insulting but we pay taxes too absolutely understood however it's a valid question just like I have you know
all of us take guff up here we get people angry on the phone at us we get people angry at us in person and that's part of the job it's also part of the job to be able to have these discussions and
show why this is going to benefit the overall system just because someone asks a question doesn't mean they're taking that stand i I I genuinely hope not so if I may I I just want to say one other thing and the
person that asked me in in W 2 lives in an area right now that we are getting ready to basically put on their tax bill for how long to fix a water system that they think the city should fix you know where I'm talking about and they're
going to get what for 20 years four or 500 bucks on their tax bill to fix a system yes so that's where you've got to understand it's I I'm with you this is going but they're going to ask those questions and they're going to come up
and ask then you to do it why we can trust more now and then again it's going to take a trust that we have different people in the seats we have different people in the seats here we have different people in the seats out there that is our staff and that could be some
of the reason why we have different people in the seats so yes and that's where again we've got to keep pushing forward and no matter what direction we pick where this could
be it's got to be quick and that's the thing that that I want to push because I don't want to say okay well if we do this now it's going to slow at six more months if we do that it's gonna you know do that it's just it's about it and and Kim probably hears the most from all of
us about you know what's wrong and why can't we fix it you know and and I'm sorry for that but that's that's more than that's that's what it is and you take it so and that's it so yeah Miss Coachman had one more thing and then we
can go on forever if we Yeah but I I'm I'm sorry to belabor this but um I have throughout my years up here heard citizens come up and they're angry at
the city for not resolving something in a matter of a couple of weeks or what have you and they'll refer they'll say things like you're treating me like a secondass citizen and that stuck with me when I heard that and I heard that from someone that was worried about something
that hadn't been fixed in a couple of weeks or days or what have you and it made me think that in this city we have people who feel their classes of citizens and in a way if you think back
it kind of looked like that in terms of areas that were um under served uh and unfortunately now Ward 4 is feeling this but I guess I it's a sad state of affairs that we have some people saying
well why should I pay for theirs no it's a city it's a city thing and this is a corrective action to be act you know to just really put it in simple terms it's a cor corrective action so if another part of the
city is not receiving the same service that another part of the city that is so far from being equal to what they have unfortunately we're just going to have to continue to communicate
that you know because it's a city we're in it together and we if we need to make a corrective action of something that's been going that was established years ago it shouldn't be it shouldn't be the expense
of the of the citizen it should be the city but anyway Miss Coker and then Miss Oh just my only comment would be that I've been involved with several of the older properties um in the other areas and they have had to replace their
laterals and a lot of people have had to do it and it was always at their own cost um so I I I I can appreciate that some some things I mean why would one person be responsible for their own and
one person not and we could certainly help them wi with you know with assessments and you can have you know you can help finance that for them at a low interest or have it have it be extended out years because I understand not everybody has the ability to do it
but there are plenty of people that have had to deal with the age system on their own and I don't have a problem with looking for grants and and I don't even have a problem with helping but to get
this us and them to me isn't you know one of the things I've been I'm sorry for 11 years that I've been here one of the things that we are very cognizant of in public works and engineering in particular is that we service each ward
financially equitable so where we may be doing work in ward 4 for this particular lift station we also are working on Riverview Boulevard which is a million-dollar storm water project and we're also did more water mane replacements in ward three than anywhere
else in the city because that was the specific need of that ward every ward is very unique in what its needs are and looking across the spectrum of all the parts and pieces that public works services and does capital projects on is
a more equitable look at what we do ward four has more lift stations than any other ward there's more than 20 in Ward four there's three in Ward three so if you look at just lift stations Ward 4 is always going to get more lift station
money than W three but W three is going to get more water main money than Ward one because those are all PVC systems generally so it it's looking across the spectrum of all services and what the ward needs are as well it's not
Everybody is paying for everything yes but it's improvements across the city and we do try to keep it equitable because that's important for all of you that sit up there and to prove the budget every year for us so we try to keep it equitable and it may not be the
same in one year but if you're looking at a fiveyear or a 10-year rolling history it becomes equitable but you also have to think that that what everything you just said I believe is on public property not private property
generally it is on right so so that is the concern and again I hear it I get it more from others but that's where we've got to be able to explain it in the right way in the good way which I think
this is easy to explain from the long-term effects of things and what you just said about I didn't even think about that 20 different lift stations and again as Councilwoman Barnaby said in the past most of the properties that
we're having problems with now are filledin land that was submerged land at times and that's because it was the most valuable land at the time when people own the property in that so that's the thing that we have to be able to really
sell to the whole city and and what is going to make our system better so we're not polluting the river so we're not doing things that none of us caused but we're going to fix um councilwoman Moore and then let's can we let Mr perry finish and then we can dialogue like I
said till six o'clock i don't have a meeting at two o'clock so I don't know what you guys are talking about i'll talk to the chair i um I just again I just want to I want to highlight that what we're here talking about in this immediate day is the temporary lift
station that is separate than the construction of three the demolition of 13 the building of the collection system and then ultimately the connection via private laterals um I I would just say that
um you know we're we're talking about being in in it all together but when I hear why should I pay for your thing it's ignoring that that my thing is part of a larger situation that is citywide
so I just I want to just really make sure that I'm clear about that um nobody is asking for any kind of handout or whatnot like that um and then I also just want to reiterate that I I have identified solutions to some of the things that we
have been discussing and it is keeping in mind that the construction of three which is really the beginning of the that's really the beginning of the project the temporary is just a result of us not doing something with 13 for eight years to be clear um so they're
two separate things uh what we could do is reassure people via hey we are at 50% constru you know whatever it is at this moment in time regarding the separate project of the construction of three which kicks off everything else that has
to happen so that we alleviate the concern that the temporary becomes another not temporary um I think we also need to commit to and this is a contractual question because I have questions for Mr mr rutil about if it ultimately was in the right of way is
that a taking then you've got two property people to deal with um two property owners um can we really not tie it to the location in this specific contract because it did seem to refer to some conceptual plans and whatnot so I have those questions about that but that said I do want to commit to listening to
residents when they have the most intimate knowledge as to what makes sense for preserving value um quality of life just where is it located what is it doing it's it's 11 feet in the air and it's a generator you know i mean like where are we putting that that makes
sense for the people that literally have to be a neighbor to it um and then I also would suggest scheduling the community meetings and not shying away from offering definitive information about timelines about
progress because we have concerns that something might change and it might be delayed i think if we're just communicating the entire time then there's no need to hedge our bets about how long it's going to take and and only offer you know a little bit of a a more
less than robust project updates to the community i am getting project updates I believe uh very well from Miss Clayback but we need to push that out to everyone else mr
i think it was a good good conversation and and I think that there's legitimacy to the trust issue in the community um I don't need to go into the explanations of you know Kim can tell you about sore pipes that were collapsed and and instead of repairing them with PVC because the city didn't have the money
they would take a metal street sign and enase it in concrete wrap it around the pipe this I guess you do what you can at the time type of thing and everything but we are where we are this is probably one of the largest undertakings as far
as the utility work that's being done uh that I never heard of anything larger in the history in the city's history i'm sure building the plant when you know things like that were larger but it's pretty complicated um and and it's not without without some some challenges
huge challenges but the point that I think you made was a really good point about the communications um if you have a trust issue you don't usually earn that trust back overnight no matter how that trust what what that trust issue is related to but over time you can and I
think over time you have to communicate better and and and that's probably one of the shortcomings here um you know historically and and and and could be important to this project it will be important in this project but right now
what's before the court the council so to speak is this issue about the temporary lift station and from Kim needs to say this but I've asked her the question several times that the proposal before you um does not fix it to one
location on the pork chop we are going to look some at some alternatives including Miss Seabolt's property as well as potential other alternatives there um that I won't get into and but ultimately we could go on and on and
every day we go on and on and every month we go on and on a solution doesn't arise and that's the paralysis I've seen happen in my 35 plus years in government that that kills me more than anything else there's sometimes there's just no
easy road to go and so for whatever reason there's more questions than there are answers and no one leaves the port well if you don't leave the port you'll never get to the destination it's tough and it's a tough road and I think that's why the eight years is where we're at because there
was never a willingness to step up and say "Let's get it done." I think that's the point I was trying to make there is now acceptable and I apologize i didn't mean to yeah uh Miss Barnaby well I don't think anybody up here is
comfortable with just leaving this as it is and we hope it doesn't fall in the river i don't think anybody up here wants that i do think everybody up here wants to see this project done and have it done correctly
agreed we We are invested so we as public works I want to just comment on that real quickly is that the one thing I will say about this council and this administration and and and frankly is that we are getting a lot more funding than we had ever accessed
in the past and we're also trying to expand our bandwidth for people that can do these projects and we have good people but we have to continue to get good people because these are complicated projects and we're not the Florida Department of Transportation that has endless resources around the
state or the county and the like and we're local government but we got to have the the the horses to get this done and and so we realize that Mr williams realized it everybody in this room realized it the legal assistance that was required to do these things and
everything um we've gotten a lot better our game speed has gotten better i think we can do the project i think we can get the project done in a reasonable period of time it's tough to say exactly you know whether that's going to be five years or or or or six years or whatever it is but that comes down to the
communications too and I think as we move forward very shortly we will be able to come come up with a more definitive specific timeline county does their road projects a lot of times and we see what goes on in the east side of the county it takes years to build these bridges and other major road projects
they have and they have the county big five and they put them on their website and they they blast it out on social media and they go to neighborhood meetings they do a pretty good job of it really there's always going to be somebody that goes I didn't know about that right but but you can only do so much i think we do have to get to that
level of communications and keep this neighborhood and all neighborhoods and communities in the city up to speed with that stuff and that's been something the mayor has all of you have made an investment in our communications piece i think we're doing better at that but again legislation before us is about
this particular temporary mr perry I want you to repeat it this this before us is not at this time sight specific is that what I heard you say that we are we are still looking at
other alternatives other alternatives but we've got to get this ball rolling we do have to get the ball rolling it takes time to procure all of this and while the company that's doing it you just approved a water mane project for um south of Manatee High School they
will be here in the city as soon as those materials arrive they are ready to go and and start building that lift station so we it's a we p we're purchasing a package lift station as a temporary station it's not something we would build
permanently they will install it and with the understand they they're installing it to our specs and to to the design that we have at the elevations we need but this is your approval today allows us to start the motion start the
progress getting it in motion to to procure the materials and if need be and I'm sorry we'll if we have to come back at every meeting to give you that update publicly um then that's what we'll have to do I think for this whole project all
of you are invested in it as and if we have to have special meetings we will so yes absolutely and we'll have public meetings and I know you all can't attend all the public meetings but we will have those as well um so yeah and we'll have a communication plan set to miss more but one question I when you were talking
there Kim flyback is you mentioned about if we approve today then you have to order something whatever you have to order how long is it say we have the site it's picked it's all everybody's happy or whatever at
least everybody leaves with a little bit of a frown or a smile that that's where it's going to be when is the that thing going to be in the ground and ready to flip the switch the materials will be here in 8 to 12 weeks and then we have to connect all the piping that is
associated to bring it to the lift station so it's the installation of the lift station as well as the gravity sewer that comes into the lift station and the force mean which is how you So when would the flip the switch be
flipped for that so it's a four to six week installation time so shortterm would be if everything was perfect um 12 weeks if three months yes if we have a little bit of a delay it could be 16
weeks so all right so um and that will get there would be no picture that we're looking at now on the river would we tear all that out and that would be cleaned up at that point or would we leave that for now no once this is
completed we can put out a contract through purchasing for the demolition of existing lift station 13 and that would be gone because it's no longer useful so when do you need to know we approved this today to get stuff started order
when do you need to know when would be the date that you said okay we have to have a final decision on where it's going to be that would be I believe there's another meeting this month and is there two in May then by the second meeting in May would be we will have a
meeting every day if we have to madame clerk will take care of that um if we need to have a meeting we're not going to wait two weeks if we have to do something if we have the materials ordered we have that time period for
during delivery to make sure that it gets here i would prefer shorter rather than longer so we can work all the details of pipe connection into the plan um instead of during that during doing doing that during their installation what I found is in government and and
it's we've had those meetings Mr perry knows it where we get everybody in the room and whether it's the subcontractor whether it's a management company whether it's somebody else that everybody else is doing this fire marshal all this we get everybody in the room
and the lowest person in the room from the supervision standpoint knows where to fix the problem if we have to do that every day I want to do that and again a lot of stuff may be legal so that's going to come down to you know it's well
we it's going to take a week to get that no we need it today if we find whatever alternative and then bring back to the council so that's the importance of it and that's my promise and I know everybody else would have that same promise it's not a matter of well we got a meeting in two weeks we got time no Mr
attorney Mr fire Marshall whoever else is going to have to be involved in that let's get that done and I think that that's you know where the trust issue is but we gonna we're going to do what we're going to say you know out outside
of our control but also the citizens have to have that same trust yes you know and it can't be a daytoday well I don't trust you today and I trust you tomorrow and I don't trust you the next day we know what we know we got to do what we do and then you know and again
Mrs moore brings up a perfect thing with your kids but you still love them and you're going to give them that opportunity to bring that trust back and so far I don't think that they can look up here and say "We don't trust you we don't trust the
picture now how do we fix that?" And Miss Moore um yes thank you so to alleviate any confusion or or concerns um the contract before us today like can you just walk me through the process of we're approving this at this level of expenditure but then what does that look
like since we don't know the site like how how does this work in the world of Miss Clayback how does Miss Clayback get from approval today to identifying a location and then proceeding in that regard and then also I'm just going to also ask you to
update uh everyone on where we're at with the actual project because again two separate projects well let's stick to the one yes and then stick with the one then well I would like her but but I think people need to know afterwards but yeah okay we just we'll get that let's
get to what we're talking about give the update and then because we I think if we can do them simultaneously as quick as possible that's the goal yeah the first step is to get today's approved before you there is a $355,000 estimate from the vendor for
the lift station parts and pieces we've built some contingency into that so that we if there's an increase in the expense we don't have to come back to you all again and again and again for change order so this process takes at at a half a
million dollars in approval will take care of the purchase of the lift station as well as all the piping requirements and the installation of the lift station so it is a complete package that you're approving today to get our primary pipes
connected to the lift station install the lift station and get the force main pumping back out so that it gets evacuated so when we identify the location do we have to do something to then actually do
the installation when we identify the location that's going to determine how much pipe work we have to do but also that will come back to us so we're not going to do that the location you're not approving the location today you're approving the amount so that we can move forward with the purchase if at 4:00
today you find a location you think will work what do we need 24 hours we'll have a meeting Friday at four o'clock you know I mean I'm serious about that i'm not not trying to be joking but if we need to you know we'll we will set the meeting to get it where we're not
waiting till the next meeting i mean that's how important I think all of this is and that's that's what I think that we'll build the trust that if we can do it the communication and all that um so Miss Moore did you have something else Mr well it was just can you tell you
know not I don't want to belabor any points or take time but can you tell us where you are with lift station 3 we've done a preliminary engineering report for that that has sized all the components the pumps what the panel
configuration needs to look like how big the force man needs to be to push the the the water out all of that has been completed we now have to set it in the ground we know how big everything needs to be and we have more than adequate space behind the existing lift station 3
to build the new station so that that's um the design time for that is about nine months then we put it out to bid well design and permitting because we have to permit it with D then we'll put it out to bid and then they'll start
construction and going through the bid process right now is about 90 days maybe a little bit longer depending um so we're looking at a full year before we see a shovel in the ground thank you for lift station three right
right okay but can we be doing pipes in the road during that time can we be doing you know other things that will be making it when it's ready you can not say "Okay do this and then this and then this." Can they be running at the same
time while we're doing the design of lift station 3 and putting that out to bid and constructing it we're going to be designing the collection system to put that in the road and while it would be really easy to put the pipes in the road and say up this is where we want it
to go we also have to have the surveys from all the properties to know that there's enough drop from the back of the house to the street so that the the raw sewage runs or or all their discharge dish water and everything else runs
there has there's a slope based on the size of pipe that comes from their house to the the pipe in the road And because of the distance you want to make sure that those pipes are deep enough and that all that can be running together so then when that's the design of that is
going to be running we're not going to wait to design something till after something's done no lift station 3 will actually be built when we're putting the other out to bid because it is going to take some time to do the design to make sure that everybody is going to have
adequate service and appropriate slope and to get all the legal parts so we're going to be running the design of the collection system getting all of the um the legal parts and pieces we've got to have and that's a discussion that we'll have to have with Mr ruticil to make
sure that we have all of those things um appropriately worded and if there's a change in ownership how does that work is this going to run with the land so there's some legal details that we need to work through on that as well as well as come up with a restoration well I
know what the restoration plan's going to be but to put it on paper to asssure everyone have pictures before and after of what the the the corridor looks like to make sure that we're we're putting it back to as good or better um because that restoration is a huge impact on
those on those homes so it it's not just a access and put a line in we've got to restore that as well yeah and I think that's that's again if we can show that meetings communication obviously you know it's
going to be that important to keep it going i mean and again I just it's a frustrating part for all of us so Miss Coker yeah um back to the topic with uh the temporary um I I am committed that
we should in my opinion I think we should do something today um to get the process rolling but I all due respect to the other white meat i can't eat that pork chop that that I would have to know that that was going to be my that was there there was
nothing else available so I really hope that we're committed to finding another location because um just in terms of just aesthetics property values i mean that just to me there's got to be a better way to do this so I hope we can
focus in on another low but I don't want to hold it up anymore i want to get it moving i feel like we're on borrowed time with that list station three so that's where I'm at i I appreciate that commitment i really really do um to that
question then again process so I think you said that the location would have are we going to have to have another meeting to Yes to actually say okay we've identified location and now we're proceeding as a group i think it it would be prudent to present the location to all I wouldn't pick a location
because I'd get blamed for it okay i'd get the phone call i I would like I agree and I I would like for all of us to be a part of that process of the location identification before we put anything in the pork chop y yeah last resort the
pork chop was a starting point so that we could at least have a conversation because if we didn't put it someplace to start we could never even have this conversation um it's okay all right
so great conversation great i hope the public out there thinks that they know where we're trying to work for that you know we all are trying to get to that same direction where there's no discharges in the river and this
would be a worse discharge if that happened because partially treated compared to what you're flushing every day going right into the river again who ever thought of that but um we used to do it but that was what the time was um so basically we need a motion to approve
going forward with purchasing the equipment we need and the value of what's in there up to $355,000 right now and there's a contingency on that for the total project so you'll not have to approve
any additional funding sorry you won't have to approve any additional funding as we move into it it includes the piping estimate mr rudel is there anything you see that should be stated any differently no not at this point
mrs moore I think that's it for me for now do you have a motion you'd like to make um Um sure i move to proceed with the procurement of the temporary lift station with the location to be
determined by council at a future date second all right you've had we've already had discussion deliberation and discussion we'll start the vote in ward three yes four yes five yes one yes two yes
carries approved five to zero and a great discussion thank you Mr perry and Mrs clyback no pressure for the future that should be easy unfinished business
mr perry mayor council under item nine unfinished business the city administration would submit um the extension of the contract between the city of Bradenton and the EDC council mayor may remember so we need to pull it off someone needs to
pull it off the table sir motion to remove this item from where it was tabled second second we have a motion a second to pull it off the table by Miss Barnaby and Vice Mayor Kramer start the vote in ward four yes
five yes one yes two yes three yes carries five to zero to pull it off the table now we would need a motion to approve the first extension um motion to approve the first extension of
the contract with the Bradenon Area Economic Development Corporation second all right a motion by Miss Barnaby and a second by Miss Coachman any other discussion hearing none we'll start the
vote in ward five yes one yes two yes three yes four yes carries five to zero thank you very much all right council reports start in ward two you always start with me no i count
always say that i count i do too every time he Well he always does you checked like the last three meetings four meetings five meetings well you weren't here you missed one i'm Yeah I did miss one meeting um I would just like to say uh thank you
to uh my colleagues and the staff um I got a nasty bug that then I got the flu and then I got pneumonia and um I was pretty sick and I appreciated being
able to call people and get information and try to serve the citizens as well as I could while I was very much under the weather but um I I just appreciated everyone checking on me and and trying
to assist with what was going on and making sure that I didn't fall too far behind so I appreciate it very much you can't get sick anymore because the brownies and the stuff just does disappears from here so no more sickness now yeah we were you
had it pretty good so um I'm trying to think uh but I I don't believe I have anything else thank you Mr kramer thank you it was very nice our presentations earlier our
uh the proclamations [Music] um when it was nice of Martin and Dalton to bring his parents along today but it was also very nice the the thing I took from it other than the great
partnership is that's a lady who's head of an organization who's saying that we do it right that the department the city the support we give does it right and that's a national organization and so to get those kudos is nice to hear and it's
uh another reason to make me proud to be sitting here and to retire from what I did yep miss Moore um obviously we have talked a lot about what is happening in at least one part of
W4 but I I appreciate it um I was also just going to comment on u Miss Corbin's uh public comment with to say that my family and I attended Banfest and I know we're going to get a more full report but at least the Moore family received it well and I what I really wanted to
nail like hone in on about that was that I loved that it was free i loved that it did not require anyone to pay anything so for what it's worth when we get the report at this moment I'm very pleased with that it felt like something we offered to the community and it was very
familyfriendly and I would like to if we you know to the extent that Realize Brain wants to continue doing something like that i I loved the part where it breaking news Lisa thanks bam should be free and I think that'll just do it for
me today miss Coach okay thank you um just kind of want to tag on to what Vice Mayor Kramer said um having the um proclamation to acknowledge the
autism awareness month i've been wearing the t-shirt at school and so forth um and and it is great to hear from a national organization that BPD is doing their thing because I know I say it a
lot so it's good you know to have other people recognize it um and um it was just some great proclamations today a lot of really good discussion today i hope no one takes me as a mad black
woman today uh [Laughter] I was just a little loud i'm so sorry well I'm not really but not sorry well I'm that that one that
one I am i apologize for for really probably being a little louder than normal um but it was it was somewhat emotional and I I think it's important that we communicate that was one of the things when I was running that was like
communicate communicate communicate that's what we got to do to to to uh to reduce that gap between the community and its government because right now I think it's really important that
we constantly reiterate to the public that everyone sitting up here and out there and in the offices back there and up
there are working really hard to make this a better Bradenton and historically yeah some things may have not been done correctly or may not have been done at all but right now this moment and in these last few years you have a council
that's really trying to do the best for Bradenton and be equitable and that's sometimes hard for some people to grasp but War Five is definitely still alive ward one yeah
okay i absolutely I mean of course I love all y'all um and when and as far as the communication totally agree my point was just I think to be effective we have to kind of keep it that's all I was
meaning and I think the communication I think it's incumbent upon us to make sure that they feel like like like they know what's going on so that might be um you know an indictment on us if if they're feeling
like they they don't we don't need them to all be scheduling meetings with with all of our department heads that's that's kind of our job so um but I think we're making great strides and I hope they will trust us that we're committed
to it and uh I I wanted to say that I'm really disappointed I was unable to attend BAFFest but from all accounts it was a huge success so So I'm assuming it will continue to go forward and we'll just continue to get better so um I
don't know anybody who's traveled recently on Allegian Airlines with a friend of mine was traveling and sent me the big spread that was in their on their plane uh periodical all about the ecoin adventure and so the causeway
we're making we're making it big um but I think it really does kind of show you that that they are um you know they're ambassadors for us and they're doing a good job a a lot of people are um you
know really do enjoy it so while we have to you know contend with some of the you know the things that come that surround it I'm glad that we haven't gotten rid of it and I know we've taken flack over that but I think it's a good thing i thought you were going to say the crap
well I was trying to be professional um and then I also want to okay to my colleagues I apologize but I do want to say congratulations to the University of Florida Gators on their national championship it was an exciting game i
know yeah but you know what it's good for our state and um so I did did want to congratulate y'all i thought it was a great game and it was fun to watch and I was cheering for you i really was and uh so congratulations and the Marauders
kicked off and uh Friday night's game promises to be exciting i hope uh that everyone will come and support our our hometown team the Marauders it's going to be a fun season friday night is the fireworks friday night is the drone show so first time they've ever had a drone
show there so thank you one is done everyone so um obviously just to kind of talk about the BAMF fest um great event it really was bridgetobridge brought out a lot of different people that that from 11 to 7 i think our vendors and
everybody I've talked to obviously some of the food sold out earlier than they thought because they don't want to have too much but they uh they realized that it was a wide variety of the community and I think they really want to grow that next year even to maybe even being more than a one day event tying in the
players the village of the arts the bishop the um art center the new art center open where they can do different shows and I really think it works well and I know the village people that I talked to are very excited um obviously
it's kind of village of the arts people YMCA if we could have them come and do it um Pace Center for Girls the Lucky Ducky Race is right there again this weekend so we're having a lot of events going on um that really is good fundraisers because when it looks at it
these are fundraisers for our community that are helping children that are helping people that need it we saw the proclamations today helping the community doing things that can and um really bring that up um yeah I had go Gators on my my list too but but no it
is a you know we all joke about some of that but we do pull for our state because those are kids those are kids that will come back and even though they're a little older now they'll come back to the communities that they're from and I was glad to see I mean on Houston I think had one or two from Florida so you felt bad for them being
from Florida but but um wanted to do that not that bad um and then just to talk about our discussion today obviously I know Mr perry wanted me to let him finish but I thought it was important that we have the the candid discussion because you look out in the
audience now and maybe one or two citizens that are still here that other than staff and what we really got to do is get more people involved that know things long term because the only time
it really you know you get involved is when it affects you directly but then it also affects another community when things happen or affects another community and that's what only thing I was saying about the collaboration yeah it does mean something because and
people what they judge us on is what we charge them and we have to do taxes we have to do things we have to do other things and if we don't aren't good stewards of the money none of us are going to be sitting up here but that's why when we got lobbyist when we got
other things that I don't feel that we did a great job years ago we did a great job with the staff getting $400,000 for this or $500,000 for that because they were able to do it but now we're getting millions to help things and help all and
and doing things all while growing the city you're going to see a lot of changes in here when you know this building in particular is getting closer and closer you know the police station is under construction and that's going to be a great thing next year sometime towards the end of the year um I don't
want to get the chief emotional because you know she won't be there but but uh we might invite her back for a little ceremonial thing but you know we'll invite her back oh I will okay we'll see it depends how nice she is to us going out we will definitely invite her back
chief um and I'll let you do it Chief code to to tell about the awards yesterday once you know to who got the awards and and that for the 2024 but um I just want to thank everybody for the dialogue today again our citizens that were here left you'd like you know would
have liked them to be more engaged but some of the things that were set up here um is they're only engaged as they want to be the information is out there we're on TV we're on YouTube you can get it anytime you want to Listen so if there's
any challenge I'll look i don't know where I'm looking at what camera but look out there and say get the information be informed and know the facts because unfortunately what I said after citizen comment there's a lot of people out there that do not want to put
the facts out and whether you like me or not the Facebook cowards are out there they're not Facebook warriors they're not keyboard warriors they're cowards get the truth and you know I'm I'm over
all of the false information out there um and you know we talk about different things but you know every two years we have an election you can make decisions then if we're not doing something good but you know I could go on and it's frustrating when you see things that
just aren't true chief I'll tell you um you know it's easy to get caught up into the negativity of a lot of stuff in the world in our state even just in law enforcement um but moments like that yesterday at the awards ceremony I think reminded all of
us what what it's all about um that was probably the one of the most touching touching ones we had um and I think it's because we picked such welldeserving representatives of our agency um who really are just making a difference in
everybody's lives and it was it was a privilege and I I saw how we all just lingered there a little bit longer than than normal and I felt like you guys all um felt the same so um thanks for coming out i really appreciate the support um
on that same vein uh these autism shirts as I already mentioned uh provided by the Brain Blue Foundation I just want to take a moment um several people up here uh recently we we just received a sizable contribution I know from from
you um we have a member of council who serves on the board Mayor Brown a contribution you you push all the time to to try to get people to donate and if we think about it that's um that's a fledgling foundation still some
foundations take decades um to get big and large and start doing great things we finally I think are coming into our own after um about eight and a half years and uh what they're accomplishing this type of outreach um with with
autism what we plan to do with that foundation with our new regional training um center what we've done for our officers with wellness and health it's um it's nice to see and so thank you all for your support of it and for wearing your shirts every Wednesday
throughout the month we're asking you to do it and any other time you want to wear it um hey it makes it easy for you in two weeks right um but thank you thank you for all that that's it and and again I would like to thank the
council women and council man for wearing your shirt today i know that was kind of a little email that went out on Monday or Tuesday whatever it was but but uh thank you for obliging in that because I think it's important to keep uh doing the good things for our city
and and being the friendly city and we're just happy to be here is there any other department heads mr perry that's right i believe Chief Gear might have some updates okay Chief Gear yeah so fire station 2 update speaking of the east side uh we've gotten a lot of inquiries as when that's going to be
done it's currently on time scheduled for July uh completion uh so you can see with the uh no no offense chief but all the red going onto the building you know starting to stand out a little more so uh uh so that's that's good news for the
east side good for us um a lot of the community has been inquiring about that um the ladder truck believe it or not that y'all we ordered it's been three and a half years ago is actually going to be done middle of May and we'll be
looking at a completion trip it's kind of funny but uh it's still in progress and it's got a completion date now i just got the email uh so that's good news as well and if you uh see on the street some new mini pumpers uh going
around on calls thank you so much and uh those are in service as well and you'll see at those at the uh outlying stations uh taking first out calls so appreciate y'all's help and appreciate you coming over for the you and Mr perry for the swearing in and uh we're trying to step
our game up and and do a little more for our personnel and uh recognize them so we appreciate the help thank you anyone else miss Singer could you come forward for a minute he's like "Oh no
i know at our workshop we're going to talk about some permitting things but can you just give us on the record kind of our permitting now with the you know we heard the gentleman asking about some things and give us just some updates on you know where we are with the hurricane coming out of it and all the different
things that are happening and delays that sometimes aren't always our delay it's the contractors and and please if there's questions people just call right correct um we have been working um
especially with the people who have been hardest hit on the hurricane trying to get out all those roofing permits fence permits and the other kinds of uh damages that we had seen and in particular um those that were impacted by flood uh there are certain FEMA
requirements that we have going forward in those and I know that um the building official and other members of our staff have been especially working on those and particularly when people are trying to um get an owner builder permit it's it's somewhat more cumbersome uh but
we've been giving them special attention to get their applications in and through um the system we did you know implement that new um system right about the time the storms were coming through if we delayed it it would have been months in delay and we just felt it was better to
get those new permits in the new system uh to deal with them a little bit more efficiently but we are working our way through um we get regular visits from FEMA uh to go through our progress because they're always concerned about things they've seen in other communities and so far I think we are getting a a
good um reading from them uh that we're doing things appropriately so that we don't have to go back and redo things um it does you know cause some delays though in permitting and so if you are getting calls on delays uh please have them call me have them call the uh the
building official um the deputy building official Tamar uh Tora um we're all here to help um and we try to get on top of those if somebody has gotten lost in the system and try to figure out what the problem is and get them through right one of the calls that I got and
forwarded on um is that the it's a condo or it's a multi- number of families and so they had different connected but not connected different addresses and all that and it was really about the builder putting it in the wrong way but one
phone call clicked and it was the right way so that's what we're saying we're here reach out right and if if if your builder does say something that doesn't necessarily mean he's trying to not tell you the truth it may be true but it's because of the way it was entered and
and which again we haven't been through this before like this so please reach out and and everyone you know most times we just forward it to you nothing special but just it helps the process right correct questions all right thank
you sorry to put you on the spot yes sir i apologize but I just have two things I kind of wanted to cover which is very quick but I'm required to notify you of emergency purchases at the next at the next council meeting and so we did have an emergency purchase through public works that was done on
33125 it was a tree and shrub removal was requested by Don Bruner uh to remove damaged trees and shrubs from a fence line and then we also had one that just came to me this morning from Rebecca Dash overt fire which is an emergency purchase for an awning that was uh
required I believe at station one was it chief yes station one yeah at the entry just wanted to let you know about those two purchases and just one last point um since you had Robin up there you know Lance and I went out to Twin Rivers and Braden Castle um and and we're just
amazed at how it had kind of restored to its prehurricane um look it was clean it was tidy it was repaired and you know the gentleman's that came in today the folks that came in today were very complimentary but they did a really good job out there the
folks and I think their management teams as well great community and uh compared to what we had to deal with out there um how rough it looked and the despair on those people's faces understandably um it's nice to see the sunshine tomorrow and that goes back to the like you said
the management and some of the residents that really helped others you know worked out and I went through there about two weeks ago um maybe a little longer with the trailer on a Saturday don't look at me Lance but um just talking to people again and getting some
stuff and it's it's just you know some of them are still struggling you know and especially in Braden Castle Park more than um Two Rivers and Braden Castle but but we're only six months out you know
and still we're six months out you can say it either way but things are going to turn around and we're only two months out from June 1st probably well all right anything else for the good of the whole if not we'll be adjourned thank
you