The other one has no that's for this year when you guys decide. But I wanted you want to compare 24's brains. >> So this is great to hear. I don't know. It's fine. >> Why is he recommending to fill it >> or I'll just steal James if she want?
>> Um >> just because it's a giant hole. It's unused. >> So it's basically a vault. It's a vault. >> A ball underneath. >> Huh. But cinder block. >> Cinder block. >> Unlike many. This is like your basement.
>> No. From you know, >> right? It's got some ground water in it, he said, but nothing contaminated. They did not do a a broad like environmental study on it. Uh there's equipment down there. There's no equipment.
>> There's equipment. It's on right now. >> Got it. >> There you go. >> Thank you so much, >> Bert. His name is Bert. >> Okay. This is for the um New Jersey League of Municipalities.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We put this together, but >> Thank you. >> There may be more common. >> Yeah. >> But you'll see a lot of them on the same time, the same. >> I know. I noticed that. Yeah. But we usually visit with American Water CN, you know, the usual.
>> You >> Yeah. >> So, >> you're going right to the beach. >> Are you going for the day or you going to stay over? I'm going to stay overnight. >> Oh, okay. Good. >> I'll party with you all. >> Yay. Okay, good. >> Now, I'm really going to be done with
classes, but I'm sure you'll you'll see me walking around. >> Oh, that reminds me. I have to ask Michelle about um the ethics class. You're probably going to have to You're definitely going to have to take it um because we get credits, CU credits
for insurance. So, let me just make sure. >> Okay. Mo most everything is signing up when you're there, right? There's there's nothing to sign up for. >> When you go in, you you >> And then on the way out, you >> Yeah, I got the thing that >> And this way they know you took the class >> bar.
>> Yeah. >> Well, that's all it is. >> That's the whole Hey, right. >> Mitch, I was a little surprised that J said you definitely have to take out this. >> Yeah. It's like you was like what
happens if I already have ethics? >> It's like you are sorely in need of ethics. >> I mean that's how I interpret it. I don't know. >> I just thought it was being new and not having taken the class before. >> I think it's your not not my deficiency.
>> Yeah. This is >> Rick. How's Nina feeling? >> Uh he's hurting but she's okay. I mean the operation refiled for her. >> Okay, good. Good. >> But she's still in the hospital. >> She might be released tomorrow. >> Really?
>> Yeah. >> Wow. That would be awesome. >> Might be. >> Yeah. I mean, no rushing. That'd be great. Just a sign that >> they wanted to release for today. >> She isn't ready yet.
>> All right. >> Thanks for joining us tonight given all you've got on your plate, you know. Yes. >> Were you happy to see the big pile of stuff Breijit's got? >> The bank statements. >> Jared me. Yeah. >> Good. >> We We talked a lot about
>> uh Tiffany in her office. Brit pulled out just through 23. We got 20 21 22 24 >> just went through 23. Had a I don't know 5 inch pile. Tiffany copied it also. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> And there was according to Breit some
interesting things she saw >> to be explored further. Well, she totally does. >> Yeah. You most likely don't have to take that class till next year. >> And we do it online, too. So, >> you don't have to go through that. >> Sorry. May I say hello? Some very important. >> Okay. I noticed I noticed I back right
now. >> He's pissed off. >> Are we pulling the Are we uh tableabling the uh bids if if you don't mind? No. No. Thank you. >> We got to iron that out. >> The bids keep getting high. roll.
>> You have a you have a resolution to reject them, >> right? We're going to table that resolution. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Because we might accept after all. >> Okay. Oh, let's change order. >> Yeah, but we can't What's the
>> When are they going to release the new? >> What's up, Christian? How you doing? >> Good. They were talking about rebidding on the 21st. Friday the 21st. artist. >> We got to stop the weed. >> I thought it was sooner than that.
>> Councilman wiki. >> I'm Christian. >> Council president. >> Hi Christian. >> That's the big That's the May. Nice to meet you. >> How you doing? >> Doing well. Thanks a 30 minute speech.
>> The two two mile two mile turkey trail. >> Yeah. Where are all the uh big screen monitor things? >> Yeah, I know. >> You don't like this? Yeah, right. Like so. Uh >> but it takes longer. It takes longer to talk about the two-mile turkey travel for you.
>> I've never joined us. >> I don't know. She was >> I'm assuming she's doing and if she would show up soon. Hey Gary, there's also >> Hey Rich
of the wires very woman is Christian. to begin with. >> What's that? >> Right. So why do you say that?
>> Yes. And now we ask him if he was waiting. >> Okay. You are He's got very good stuff here. Really? Yeah. >> I'm not a little
>> Just for another idea. because he was in the middle of >> Congratulations. That's true. And I heard sometimes I'll do that. I don't know. >> All right.
Happy All right. Wednesday. >> Yeah. Terry and I realize that >> oh That's okay. He gave you the two probably
because he was estimating one of those. Okay. >> Yeah. Even on the land use board, I do everything digital. Don't they don't even print me out the set of plans
because it's like out very well. So that's good. >> That's why asking for additional money. That was a final They have good >> busy
middle. >> Which part? to do. >> No, no, no. The discussion about changing the first person said that. >> I've read it, but I've never heard it said. Thank you. outside different than the one.
>> That's not what it was up there. That's okay. Still have yours. >> I think we'll try to make a very fine, >> Mr. Mayor. >> They don't have to. >> That's what That's what they told.
>> See, there's See, there's no >> there's no there's no clock on the wall. Call this meeting to order. >> Please stand for the pledge of >> allegiance. Pledge >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. hand. >> I wish to announce that the 48 hour notice is required under the open public meetings act was emailed to the Asbury Park Press, the coar and the new coaster
on December the 19th of 2024 that a copy has been placed on the bulletin board in the Burough office and that a copy has been filed with the municipal clerk. Please be advised public attendance for meetings through Zoom is a courtesy only. If for any reason Zoom fails or is disconnected, the in-person meeting will
continue without interruption and action can and will be taken provided there there's an in-person quorum. Mr. Noble >> here, >> Miss Greenblat here. >> Mr. Nikki here. >> Mr. Weber, >> temporarily absent here at the rental coming back. >> Uh Mayor Guboszi
>> here. Thank you. Welcome everybody. Uh we're getting close to closing out the year. just well one of the first things I want to mention we have one more scheduled meeting December 17th but we are very likely 95% at this point likely to insert a meeting at the end of this
month so keep your eyes on the agenda if you're really interested uh we're targeting November 25th or a special meeting where we'll conduct a little more burough business that we're running out of time on so we wanted to try to get that in um
let's see uh one other thing I want to mention We have Councilman elect Mitch Karp joining us tonight. Um the elections earlier this week. Uh you know our council members ran unopposed at least the three sitting with me here. Uh Councilman Weber of course after nine
years of service is uh moving on retiring at least for the time being from council and Mr. Karp has u uh agreed to run with this team and uh again the team was elected so we've asked Mitch just to join us so he gets an idea of what it looks like. from this
perspective and effective January 1st, Mitch will be up here with us. Mitch, you want to just Yeah. Wave to everybody or something? >> Hi. >> It's great to It's great to be here and uh I look forward to being up there. >> All right, great. Um Okay, so we we've
got a pretty full agenda regarding ordinances. We've got a couple of introductions. We've got five or six U adoptions. And the way that works when we get to it, introductions, we will talk about what's going on with those introductions. The public will not have
an opportunity to comment on ordinance introductions. As always, what happens is we introduce, then a few weeks go by or so till our next meeting, and then we adopt. When we adopt, the public has the ability to comment at that time. So, just letting you know that's coming.
First thing we're going to do though is item number five on the agenda uh what should be a relatively brief workshop but there's been a lot of um conversation really over the past few months at least among council members employees who help us prepare for our
meetings and so forth that should we consider moving the meeting times for our meetings and the general idea I'm sure many of you remember that over the years when our meetings have started at 6:30 for a number of years Now, we've had occasion where meetings ran till
11:00 at night, 10:00 at night. I'd say this year we've had a pretty good year. We've run to 9:00 a few times, but um but we have not hit 11 or midnight this year. Anyway, the we're going to now have a workshop where we're just going to openly discuss in front of the public
the the pros and cons of m considering whether or not we want to move our meeting times up to an earlier start time. and earlier is earlier than 6:30. Uh folks have talked about as early as 4 uh 4:30 5:00 p.m. Want to get a sense
for you know what you the public think about that and that's why we want to talk about this out in the open and also you'll be able to hear our thoughts about you know uh the pros and cons of doing that. So, with that said, uh let's kick off the workshop for um item number
five. and and I I'll start as they just said um there are a few advantages to the burough to our administrative staff folks that operate Zoom our clerk um and for that matter many of us uh who uh
I'll use myself as an example I'm sitting in the office here preparing for the meetings or whatever go home for an hour or two uh you know check out whatever's done at home and then I come back for the meetings at night there would be an ease of admin administration for certainly for a lot of the internal
staff. Um if we could make the meeting time start a little closer to the end of the the typical business day. Um so um the question then becomes what does that mean not only to us and our the ease of our operations what does it mean to our
residents in terms of u would residents applaud that because no one gets stuck here at 11 o'clock at night on a long meeting or would residents say you know you know I like coming after after dinner or or after I've you know done whatever I'm doing on my home personal
time. So, uh, I think there's at least interest in discussing whether or not we want to consider next year moving our moving our meeting times to a, you know, somewhere between a 4:00 and a 5:00 or
5:30 start. Even it's many say even an hour earlier would be a lot better for many of the people preparing. What do you guys think? >> Well, we'll still have Zoom access of course, right? I know the catalyst of this, we had a meeting about a month or
so ago and it was 4:30 and about the same amount of people showed up and a lot of people tuned in and it worked out really well and um we have a business administrator that's very accessible and he hands out a cell number to everybody. So a lot of times we can get things done without having people to even come to
the meeting. So I feel like we've opened up our communication a lot more to people that they don't have to wait to have a meeting. And um I think between the employees I think like you said it's a lot easier on their day and um I'm
usually in bed by 8:30 so full disclosure. So I I like the idea of an earlier meeting but um I'd love to hear from other uh council people and the public to see what they feel as well. >> Yeah, I would just say that um you know
I'm I'm retired for the most part. So for me the workday could be at any time and so you know as an individual it it works fine earlier or later it doesn't really matter but I think from the public perspective if I was somebody was working your normal workday to to make
it to a meeting you would have to get off early in order to come attend a meeting and and you know how often does that happen that you need to be here um you know so that's the only inconvenience I think there is to the public is if I you know they're working 9 to5 or to four you to be able to make
it here to a meeting could be difficult. >> But I think um there's also the advantage from a financial standpoint to the administration to the to the employees to tighten up that workday. And uh again, personally, I'm I'm okay
with it in either direction other than that. And Sean and John, before you guys come in, one other thought I should have mentioned, forgot. Um, one goal for next year would be, you may recall, we used to have our meetings on Tuesdays. A year ago, we moved to Wednesdays. Tonight
we're Thursday. But, uh, in in order to uh, hopefully keep a Tuesday schedule. It would also advantage Mr. Canon, our municipal attorney, who said if we started earlier, it would make him more available. Nothing nothing against having his partner join us. Uh, Bill,
but um, but that's just one other potential advantage for us as a bureau to make sure Mr. you can, you know, join us as often as you can. >> So, um, I'm accustomed to most public meetings being in the evening because it really gives the public an opportunity
to come without a compromise in their work schedule. Um, so I would be uh I would not be in favor of bringing the meetings back to like a 4:00 time. I think it's too early. And I just I think the whole opportunity for I mean listen as as a governing body this is our
opportunity to to um deliberate in public because that's really the only opportunity we have to deliberate um and so we conduct our business at these meetings. Uh, of course we all prepare for the meetings and we have one-on-one conversations so we can do some
consensus building but um um and I understand the from an administrative point of view that there's a gap in between and so that makes it a little difficult. I would you know suggest a compromise and maybe even take it down to 5:30 and pull it back an hour uh if
that's helpful but I think to start it any earlier than that we have to really do a service to the public. So that's kind of where I am with it. Um I've always been accustom and I don't know what other communities do. I think most public meetings are in the evening for that very reason. Um that it gives the
public access. >> There's there's a I think I think the uh because we looked into this a little bit. I want to say it's a you know a broad sample but but I would say most in the evenings. Uh one though was like 9:00 in the mornings. Uh was a dealer
there or somebody. >> Yes. and and one or two others are at odd hours during the day. Um, but I think you're right. The assumption is that the majority are probably uh somewhere around 6 or 7 o' 6:30.
>> Mr. Weber, you've been a councilman for almost nine years. Uh, and while this won't affect you, it won't affect you for next year. You have advice just one way or another on the appropriate times of old council meetings. >> I have one thought, Erica. Can the minister reflect that I got here at 8:38? >> Absolutely.
>> Thanks. Um, sorry. 6:30. You know what then? Um, >> so what you're thinking about is 4:00. >> No, no, not >> we said somewhere earlier than 6:30. No earlier than 4, no later than >> I got it. Fun fact, I just came from a town nowhere near here, but in deep
south Jersey and their meetings, >> right? 10:00 a.m. on Tuesday mornings. Shocking. Um, so you're right. I'm not going to be here, so I don't really have an opinion. I mean, of course, you want the public to be able to to come and to
attend. Um, I I think it's accurate to say we require more staff than we used to for a meeting because of Zoom and all, you know, things like that. So, um, maybe splitting it in the middle. Maybe hearing from the public is the most important part of this because it might
not really matter what we think. If you >> if you change it and you get it wrong, you're going to hear from them anyway. So, maybe hear from them now. >> I have a question. But we will. >> If we do change it and it's we find it's not working well, can we change it again or we're stuck with it for the year? >> No, no, we could change it.
>> Okay. >> You've got to advertise it notice for the whole year. >> But but I'm just again I'm not advocating for this. I'm saying if we did a horrible thing, >> we could in March we could renotice for the rest of >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> All right. Um the public will be able to comment on this in a couple of minutes. Uh but for us now, any other comments before we move on to the next item? >> All right, next item. Our presentations and bids. >> We've scheduled it. >> Nope. We're gonna they're going to get
an opportunity. >> I'm sorry. Okay. >> Jane Jane is my navigator. So, sorry. >> Sometimes I navigate. >> If you're new to these meetings, Jane tells me what to do a lot. Uh anyway, so for pre presentations and
bids, we have best practices, inventory review, schedule, but I'm not sure if our CFO has joining us, Janette. No sign of her, right? Okay. I'm going to make a motion that u we go out of order. We'll continue with
the agenda. If Janet's able to join us a little later, we'll we'll move back to this. >> Otherwise, do you want to go? Okay, good. So, we're going to start moving the agenda around just to make it interesting for folks. Um I uh I am told that well I know because I saw him sitting in the back.
Our former mayor Gary Anglest has joined us this evening and while Mr. Angle said is very willing to spend the entire evening uh waiting for us to get to public comment. We have made him the offer to join us a little early. So Gary, >> thank you madam council. Um about 5
years ago was my last meeting as mayor was smack in the middle of COVID. So it was me and I think the burough administrator and chief of police and that was it. And at the end of the meeting, John Weber flew out of that room, scared the crap out of me and
presented me with a lovely gift on behalf of the mayor and council for my years of service. So John, payback time. >> Okay. So, in the words of in the words of William in the words of William Shakespeare, I come not to bury John Weber. Bunch of praise. Um, it hurts a
self-professed uh egoomaniac to say it, but I am hardressed to think of any elected official in the last 20 years who has had such a positive impact on our town. The accomplishments are many, and I'm sure someone, Bradley, John, will inform me what I might have missed, but I'll give it a try.
The Brady Beach Environmental Commission is a standard bearer not just in Bradley Beach but in the state of New Jersey for its proactive and inclusive actions under John's leadership and tut Brady Beach is widely recognized as being at the forefront of recycling awareness and
recycling adherence. Recycling in Bradley Beach is a want to instead of a have to largely from John's efforts. Brady Beach is very well known for its beach dunes. John continually led the effort to strengthen them during plantings, protect them, and resurrect
them after Sandy. John constantly educated his spell-elected officials and the public that that body of water to our east was a living, breathing ecosystem, somewhat at peril, but beneficial to swimmers, fishermen, surfers. He was a vigilant
protector. Who knew that keeping trash can lids would protect the ocean? John knew. John worked tirelessly with our business community where Brady Beach businesses were moving away from plastic years before the state went in a similar direction.
What did I my beach sweeps? I never thought I would have so much fun going bottle cap, cigarette butt, bottle cap, cigarette butt. Um, thank you for those efforts. Uh, those were not just great moments for the beach, but just a great moments for our community. John was the
primary driving force behind the rebirth of a proactive shade tree commission that truly celebrates our Brady Beach forest and works tirelessly to help it. John may deny this next one, but about number of years ago, there was a church
for sale in town and uh I didn't, you know, I didn't know what to do and John said, "Let's buy it. Doesn't work out, maybe we'll clip it someday and make a lot of money." So, see you you did. So, that's enough about John. Let's
let's talk about me. Um, when I was first elected mayor and a few few years later, John joined the council, it was hilarious how a few people came up to me and said, "What are you going to do about Weber?" You know, it was almost like they were saying
Vader or, you know, I said, you know, I said, "John and I," I I just laughed. I said, "John and I will be fine. They both share a passion for the town. They don't get engage in, forgive my French, petty And John and I were more than fine. I had and always will have
the utmost respect for someone who is, as John reminds me, much smarter than I am. We each brought certain distinct skills and abilities to our roles and always retained open and honest, sometimes too honest communications. I especially enjoyed watching John's BS
meter go off the charts as this vaunted political science major would tirelessly bloate during a budget meeting. Remember remember the movie Jaws? >> There was a famous scene in Jaws when the shark was nibbling on people and the town council got together and
everybody's yelling at each other. Then you hear this screeching sound of fingernails on a chalkboard and it was Quint the fisherman who said, "I know how to do this." And John, you you are Quint in Bradley. I you may not expect
being a narc swilling Irish fisherman, but you are the voice of reason and I always appreciate. Anyway, John, thank you for your service to the burrow. You're leaving it much better place. You found it. You have definitely left your mark and the burrow's residents are
deeply, as I am, grateful for you. So, And I will say that uh my fun story about jumping out of that room was I I it was the council president that year and it was co year and I was fond of saying afterwards that the only thing the council asked me to do as council president is to do that and they're
going hide in the closet and surprise Gary at his last meeting. So, this was a surprise to me because it was not my last meeting, but um I hope you're enjoying the plaque or whatever it is we gave. >> Treasured arrive somewhere.
>> Thanks. Thank you, mayor. >> Uh let's see the um okay, we still don't have agenda, so we we'll just continue Janette. So, we'll continue to move on. Um move to item seven on the agenda is approval of the minutes. Um, I will make a motion that we approve October 21,
2025 council business meeting minutes. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble, >> yes. >> Miss Greenbllet, >> yes. >> Mr. Nikki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Guboszi, >> yes. Item eight on the agenda is public comments. Uh, for this portion of public
comments, feel free to comment, but only on things on the agenda. At the end of the meeting, you'll have a chance to comment on anything you'd like. uh include in your comments if you'd like any thoughts you have about the potential of changing our meeting start times. Any comments or questions? Yes,
sir. >> Good evening. Thank you for bringing my proposal to bring back the turkey chop. >> And uh Christian, could you just uh announce to the world your name? >> I'm Christian Pepe. Uh I'm a CB I'm a freshman at CBA and I'm trying to bring
back the uh the turkey shot on Thanksgiving morning. So the reason why I'm trying to bring this back is because I have a lot of very very good and treasured memories with my dad waking up every morning before the parade and going up and burning off all the turkey
that I'm going to eat later in the day. But uh I think for me the money that I'm raising is going to go to the Mercy Center so we could feed people who don't have any food on Thanksgiving
so they could have a good time and they could have something to eat and enjoy their Thanksgiving. >> It's wonderful. >> Thank It's a wonderful idea. And for the public's benefit, uh resolution 2025-331
will be the council uh uh opining as to whether or not to approve uh Christian's request to have Bradley Beach sponsor this turkey trot. So, a little bit more to come, but thank you so much for for bringing that to the council's attention. >> Thank you. I really appreciate it.
>> Absolutely. Are you going to stay for a little while or do you need to run? Because either one's fine. Uh, I'll probably stay for a little while and then do whatever >> whatever is that. >> I will I will warn you it's it might be a longer meeting. You might not want to
stay. >> We can. Yeah, we're probably not. >> Okay, great. Thank you for joining us. >> Thank you for having us. >> Thank you so much. >> Any other uh public comments or questions about the agenda? any item on the agenda. Um, Mr. Nashkin, I see your
hand is up. >> Thank you. Paul Namkin 411 and a half. Lorraine, I just wanted to comment on changing the hours of the council meetings. I think unless you only want to have old, retired, cranky people like me show up, um, you shouldn't have it
during uh, business hours. I I I vote for leaving it where it is now. >> Great. Thank you. Anything else, Paul? >> Nope. >> Okay. Thank you, sir.
>> Luji in the back. McGuire says Timberly, I just feel the need to also say this because we are the public and if we don't get too many hands raised tonight, I really don't think the meetings earlier encompasses
as many people as possible. Um, I think 5:30, like Shauna said, might be the earliest time. That makes sense since the 9 to5 is the regular standard time. Um, I think it's important. Even people who work from home might have the idea of flexibility, but can they really be
on a Zoom? I don't I don't know earlier, you know, than their day from when their day is over. So, I just want to speak to that and I would love the turkey trough. I thought that was great. >> That's it. Thank you.
>> Great. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to item number nine, ordinances. And and item number nine is fairly lengthy tonight. We have two ordinance introductions and then as I mentioned I think six adoptions. So the
introductions the public will not have an opportunity to comment. The uh adoptions however you will for each item. So for the first two introductions the first one is 2025-37. It's an ordinance amending chapter 9. uh
we refer to as traffic, but specifically we are uh going to discuss whether or not to introduce an ordinance that um changes the rules we have in place today for what what is referred to as special permanent parking. And basically these are privatized handicap spots in front
of certain homes in the burrow. We have certain criteria around that. Um today um there's evidence of a handicap existing needing a state placard and so forth, needing a know from a doctor. Um, one of
the challenges that the bureau faces is um that there are a number of we we have limited parking and especially in the summer it's it's uh extremely limited and we have a number of uh spaces
designated that um uh are are currently available eligible for folks who are not full-time residents. So they'll be here for the summer months perhaps, but the challenge is we're painting that curb yellow,
limiting it to only their one vehicle near their house uh for the entire year while they may only be spending a few months in Bradley. So you know, it's a challenging situation, I think, for the entire council. But um but we were
thinking what can we do? We still want to make sure that we are uh advocating as much as we can for individuals who are handicapped, but at the same time try to be respectful of um all of the rest of residents in Bradley. Uh there was a gentleman here at our
last meeting who, you know, his his personal opinion was there's just not enough spaces to go around and we should eliminate these alto together. What we're going to discuss now is um uh amendments that we would want to consider that might restrict these
spaces a little bit more than they are today, but we would not eliminate them, at least not in this draft. So, with that said, um you guys are all familiar with this. Would anyone like to lead the discussion?
Well, yeah, I would just want to say that, you know, it's kind of the old antage, one bad apple, you know, losses the whole bunch. And, you know, there are some abuses that have come to light in the in the burrow. Um, where people have had these spots, so you just retain
them and and perhaps it wasn't enforced. Um, but to take it away from the people who really need these is not the right thing to do. And so I think what we're trying to achieve here and I think this ordinance is doing a pretty good job of it is is trying to tighten the rules on
on you know accessibility and um the criteria in which uh somebody could actually get a spot and um and not to prevent people who need them from getting them but to really tighten up the overall um you know um purpose which
is really hey I don't have a driveway um and I live here full-time and and I'm disabled and I need to have access to a vehicle um or my uh person who is my caregiver could provide me the access to that vehicle by having by using that
spot. And so I think those are some good provisions that we've accommodated in this. Um so I think it strikes, you know, a a good balance. I don't think at the workshop that we had the other last council meeting, we were going all over the place from A to Z on on different uh
scenarios that could happen. And I think what we need to do is simply as and I think it's what the ordinance does is tighten this up to the point where if you have a driveway then you know if if it's not accommodative to you well then you should adjust your driveway adjust the the ramping other things but you can
always pull up on the street up to and access in and out of your vehicle that way if you don't um you know or back back out that you know out the driveway to provide access. So the bottom line is is I think um this does a pretty good job of accommodating
um for the people who really need it. >> Uh I I can highlight a few things. I'm not going to read the entire ordinance for you. It's posted on our website. Uh there's probably four well three significant changes and one modest change. The modest changes we're just
bumping the fee. The fee that's been in place for many many years is $50. We're bumping it to 200, which sounds like a lot of of an increase, but uh there's a lot involved in maintaining these spaces, including creating a a sign that, you know, is is customized to say
this parking space is for this house only. Other handicapped individuals can't park in these special uh permitted spaces. So, we create a sign, we do the painting of the the the uh curb, uh we maintain that paint
throughout the years. Many of these spaces have been in place for for a decade or more. Um so there's various costs associated with the maintenance of it, the registration process and so forth. So the easy one I would say is that we we're bumping the fee. Um
probably the most significant one is we're going to this ordinance would make um these spaces available where a resident has Bradley Beach as their primary residence. So, if their primary residence is up in northern New Jersey, if it's in Florida, uh they would not be
eligible for these spaces, and as I mentioned earlier, that's largely because we don't want to take away parking for from all their neighbors for an entire year when they would be in in the burrow perhaps for the summer. A second uh significant change, I I think
this is um one that's a very logical change. We've had a very broad range of physician documentation. We do require a physician's note today, but the the notes can be very limited. My patients uh my patient needs a
parking space close to their home. Literally, we've had doctors write that. So, we have created with our burough attorney and and with other experts to help us make sure we're not in violation of HIPPA or any other uh confidentiality requirements. We've created a
physician's attestation form and it it basically lays out statement that the physician must sign but the statement is precreated or pre-structured and it basically is the physician attesting that their patient really uh struggles with mobility that
they have very limited mobility. And maybe maybe that's a nothing. Hopefully all the physicians felt that way anyway, but we're just getting them all to state it very clearly for the record. And the other the third one is um historically
we we have had these spaces available on county and state highways. We really don't have the ability to authorize that. That has that goes through a permitting process with the state or the county going forward. We're not going to our ordinance is not going to permit
these because the bureau doesn't want to be in the place of filing permits on behalf of private residents. So if if someone h has a disability but lives on Ocean Avenue, uh Brinley or Lake Terrace or Main Street, I don't think we've ever
had these on Main Street anyway, but on on the other county roads, um we won't be completing those permits any individual can do that with the county. >> Those are the key changes. >> Any other comments or questions? >> Great thoughts. Yeah,
>> good changes. >> Yep. >> Okay. I will then uh again we won't open this to the public tonight but you will have a shot at this in a few weeks. Um but I'll make a motion that we uh approve the introduction of 2025-37. >> Second.
>> Mr. Noble. Yes. M green. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nikki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubos. >> Yes. Okay. The next one is uh pretty significant change that many of our residents have been >> clamoring for for years. Ordinance
2025-38 is uh well it's described as amending chapter 123 beachfront areas and adjacent waters of the burough's revised general ordinances. What we're what we're contemplating here is uh
uh making beach lockers available only to residents of Bradley Beach and residents andor property owners. Um many of you may or may not know this. We have over 500 lockers today deployed on the beach with people leasing those 540
lockers give or take. We have a waiting list of 333 more people many of whom some of you may in this room beyond that waiting list many of of our residents have come to meetings and said I've been on this waiting list 5 years and I've
only moved two spaces. Um I I'll speak for myself. I for one, I've been on the council for 5 years uh between mayor and council. I was under the impression we had no choice. I thought these lockers had to be made available to all whether we were
residents of Bradley Beach or not. Uh the beach must be accessible to all. Parking must be accessible to all. Bathrooms must be accessible to all. We have learned through residents bringing it to our attention uh and then inquiry we've done with our attorneys that in
fact we can discriminate in favor of our residents. So this ordinance introduction is basically structured to say if you don't if you are not a resident a full residence is not your primary residence Bradley Beach you're not
eligible for a locker. You can you can live here 6 months in a day and have it on your driver's license and you can get a locker. But if your primary residence is in Florida or in upstate New Jersey or New York, you can you would not be eligible for a locker. Um,
>> well, >> I just want to clarify though, if you if you own a home and you getting there. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. >> That's okay. I I paused the >> I'm sorry. >> The other the other uh Thank you, Sean. >> Sorry.
>> The the other eligible eligibility criteria would be if you own property in Bradley Beach. If you own a home in Bradley. So, for example, you my neighbors on both sides of me, ironically, um own a home. uh they don't rent it. It it's it largely sits vacant
through a large part of the year, but they live here in the summer. They come down on certain weekends. They pay property taxes just like I do. Um they have beach lock, I think. Well, I know I think they both have beach lockers, but regardless, when you think about how how
do you make uh these lockers, which are now in high demand, how do you how are we fair to our residents? We the council have discussed, you know, one-on- ones. um we should recognize a homeowner who's paying taxes just like all of us who live here full-time and make them
eligible to get a locker. Now, there are people who own two or three homes. They might live in one and they might rent out the other two. They may have Airbnb type businesses, whatever. One of the uh stipulations in this new ordinance is
that any one individual, anyone family unit would be allowed a maximum of one locker. So, if you own three properties and your tenants in those properties, if they are primary residents in Bradley Beach, they're, you know, year-long
renters, um, they can get a a beach locker. If if you own a property and you have three, uh, rental units on that one property, three different families could each get a beach locker because they've got a primary residence in Bradley. But if you own a home separately and you get
a locker, you don't also get a locker for owning the other property. So basically, we're trying to contain this to, you know, one locker per um individual/f family unit. Uh there are other weeks to this but for the most
part um so we go through because today we don't differentiate between residents and non-residents we do go through some detail here distinguishing how um what eligibility is required as I just described it what documentation is needed the one other key feature here is
um if we do move forward with this this anticipates we may have a a 100red or 200 we may have a a lot of people that currently have lockers that are renewing them every year that are not residents of Bradley Beach. They may live in Neptune, Neptune City, they may live in
New York City. They can live anywhere they want. But when we change this um what this current draft stipulates is they would u for those individuals who are already renting lockers, they would continue they' have the ability to renew
and continue to rent this year, this coming summer. at the end of the summer um they would not be able to renew after that. Uh the the waiting list would open up and people who are on the waiting list residents only and land land owners only would be able to then be eligible
for lockers. So those are the key issues but you're all familiar with this. Any other comments or thoughts? >> Well, a couple key things that you didn't mention. Um one is that currently the beach library are in the beach utility. So those would come out of the beach utility and would be managed by
the the town and no longer be part of the beach utility which then affords us the ability to discriminate to residents only. >> Correct. And then the second part that we had talked about or um had come uh an option is to allow our employee the
burough employees and first aid as well as um you know uh fire to have um access to the lockers because they serve the community and we would want them to spend as much time as they could in our beaches because you know it's a it's a
perk for them but also uh it's great to have those individuals present on our beaches and in our community even know they don't live here because they work here, they serve the community. So, I think those are some key other additions that I think that are really important. Uh but if if this was to go forward that
you still um afford that and and I know before uh this comment uh I know on this council, Councilman Weber, last time we brought this up or at least in a conversation you and I had, you raised concerns about not broader grandfathering. I'll give you your chance to speak of course. Um but we
we've gone as individuals we've gone back and forth on a few of these components. The uh grandfathering doing it for one year gives people time to transition. But clearly that's much that's much harsher if you will than uh grandfathering people for eternity until
you know until they choose to not renew. Uh and and Paul to your point the employees the discussion was you know employees not all employees live in Bradley Beach perhaps not all can afford it but they serve Bradley Beach they serve our residents we we volunteers
first aid and fire. There may be two or three employees that actually want to have a locker in Bradley Beach. And if they want it, they will pay for it just like every resident. But we, this ordinance plans to treat them as an equal status to a resident. >> They could equally get on a wait list.
>> Equally get on a wait list. >> Okay. Right. So they don't ahead of >> Correct. or maintain the locker that they may already have. Correct. >> Right. Okay. And I just want also want to add that, you know, it's not a revenue stream. It's um the money that comes in for the lockers, for the for the building or maintenance of the
lockers as well as the annual fee um is really to cover the costs of maintaining the lockers and for the manpower to put them out, put them back and so forth. Um, and I know that John, you're going to talk shortly, you know, this concept
of is it elitist that we are now, now that we have an opportunity, we see to serve our residents and to give our residents priority to lockers uh, who live locally in Bradley Beach, to be able to have, you know, all of their beach chairs and everything right on the
beach and then be able to simply walk or bike ride to the beach is a great advantage. And you know, I was amazed to see only a few days ago when I got this information that we have a weight list of 333 people. Um, I imagine a bulk of
these of of this weight list includes residents because they're all identified associated with different beaches in Bradley Beach. Um, you know, that's uh it's fewer cars that that are come to the beach. I think also for the out oftowners that have had lockers in
Bradley Beach, uh they're drive they're very often driving to Bradley Beach, they're parking there. So if they're coming with their car, they can also come with their their beach gear um in a way that residents it's a little bit more of an ownorous for those of us who
are living in town um to trudge all of our beach gear to the beach um every day unless we drive to the beach. So, I mean, I don't see it as anything elitist. Um, you know, we as residents, um, have to kind of pay the price of
being so fortunate to be living at the beach. Um, during the summer, you know, it's definitely an inconvenience that we deal with in our streets with parking in front of our homes. You know, some it's hard for some of us to even find parking spots um because a lot of that is beach
parking because our beach parking can't accommodate all of the visitors. Um, so I think this is really um a good opportunity for us to really take care of our residents first when we can legally do so and and I'm really in favor of this.
>> Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilman Weber. >> Okay. Uh, how many people do you think you're going to be kicking off the privilege of having a beach locker uh as after obviously next year? How
many 150 people or is it a reasonable estimate. We don't know for sure because we don't track their addresses, but >> Oh, yeah. So, you're going to kick 150 people off. Uh I'm not going to have to deal with this. You all are going to have to deal with that. Um those people are never ever coming to this town again, just so you know.
>> Okay. But you're going to add Matt. How many full-time employees? >> Um gosh, how many full-time employees do we have? >> No. No, we're not adding >> who are currently >> they're eligible. You're adding people to potentially they could have >> but to answer your question, we have
roughly 45. >> Okay, so 45 they could all get on the list, >> but they won't. >> I don't know how. >> Well, they don't they don't have blockers now. Why would they want later? >> None of them have blockers. I don't know. >> Well, one or two, >> but not 40 are not going to automatically sign up.
>> I'm just doing the math. Got 45 full-time employees that are eligible. They could get on the list, right? Fire company. Oh, 20. These people are all eligible now. >> I think is it my time to speak or is it my time to speak now? >> They're eligible now. >> Teachers too.
>> They're all >> employees, fire, first aid. They're all eligible now. >> Well, they may want it more because they think it's my point is we're adding a bunch of people to it and you know and we're going to we're pushing away couple hundred people, 150 people that again they're never going to come to this town
again. They're certainly going to say bad things. Um I have a question about the the definition of property owner. Um, it says an individual was listed on the tax roll to the burrow. What if a couple's married and the house is simply in one of the spouses names, the other
spouse is not on the tax wall. It would seem like the other spouse couldn't get a locker in their in their name. It's like it's kind of limiting it to the one person. >> It's one one limit per family unit. Yeah. >> Okay. So, >> we don't want to give two lockers to two people. No, no. I'm I'm not saying you
would get two lockers, but it kind of was like, you know, one spouse couldn't even go down and apply for the locker has to be the one that's on that. What do What do you do about um I know a lot of the tax roles, I believe, have a certain, you know, there's some LLC's on it. It's like not in a person's name.
It's in an LLC's name. What do you do in that situation? There's wording in here that suggests they have to provide documentation. for example, driver's license, for example, tax roles. But if they can come up with other documentation, that would suffice. >> Well, because this says that the
property owner just says person who's listed on tax. So, like where if it's not a person, if it's an LLC, that's all that's all I'm saying. I mean, it doesn't in that definition, it doesn't say they can prove that they're the homeowner some other way. Okay. Um, well,
>> hey, John, but the resident they're a resident of that property, a full-time resident, then >> for property owner, >> right? >> Okay. So, >> an LLC, the resident would have to show that they're the resident of that property if they're living there, right? >> No, if you have a property, even if it's
an LLC, you can get a lot of because you own the property. >> A lot of people put their home in LLC's, >> right? And I just the definition of property owner we're putting here seems so would seem to count that out. But um that's >> that's that. And then I know now it's
not a revenue thing because that's because it's in the beach utility. The revenue has to equal that like we can't make money on something like beach badges or lockers. We can't once it's out of the beach utility if and you guys aren't all here one day. If the town
decides, you know what, we really need to crank up some revenue. They could do that. They could just make the fees such that it is a revenue making thing and that it's going to make beach lockers a lot more expensive. But I'm just saying it's in the beach utility. That's not even an option now. So that would be an
option to a future council. So that's something uh to think about. So if you want to take the wrath of all the people that you're picking off this, that's you know, I guess that's your business. But just let me know. I'll tell >> we have a letter draft that is going to
be signed by you. Yeah. >> Well, listen, I I just want to say, yeah, there will be some very unhappy people, but um we have so many residents in town who don't have beach lockers who've been waiting for years on lifts and um you know, who do you try and
accommodate if there's an opportunity to accommodate this many residents? If indeed of the 333, a large percentage are are residents of Bradley Beach. I I personally feel it's kind of my obligation if there is an opportunity to service the res to provide that service
and we can do that. That's you know >> just one other thought Mr. Mayor um kind of relating back to the last discussion we just had those special parking spaces. There was a time when I remembered the argument cuz they were available to people that didn't live here full-time. they were property
owners, they could get that special target place. And the argument was, well, they pay taxes just as much as anybody else. So, if we're going to extend this courtesy to full-time resident taxpayers, we should extend it to part-time resident taxpayers. So, one
of the arguments you just gave is that, well, you know, this should go to t, you know, if you're a property owner and taxpayer, um, I just feel like that could be a slippery slope cuz if the waiting list doesn't go down that much and then people are still waiting a few
years and they've only moved up four spaces instead of, you know, two spaces in five years. Um, they might be arguing for that. So, you'll, you know, be coming back and >> yeah, just like we just That's true. We just took us away on the special parking thing. We just took it away from people
that pay full amount of taxes and don't live in town um full-time. And so I'm saying that they could come here, too. >> That's a very good point. That point I asked Mr. Canon about, I said, you know, so keep in mind the parking spaces like
the beach lockers are um nothing we're required to provide. We do it as a courtesy, as a good gesture to members of our community who are handicapped. Uh, but I asked Mr. Ken and I said, "Is that a slippery slope that, you know,
two people side by side are both handicapped and they both, you know, own in a house and they both pay taxes, but one is only here 3 months out of the year?" and he said that is an an element that you can distinguish upon because you're you're inconveniencing if you
will you know at least the rest of that neighborhood for nine months out of the year say. So I I pointedly asked them that just because I was aware that was a challenge. Um and and you know I I don't I don't disagree with you. You know, people think I I think a lot of our
residents will think this is a you're number 500 on the waiting list now and they think this is a panacea. Well, you may move to 150 on the waiting list or 200 on the waiting list. So, you're right. We're still going to have a waiting list. I think what at least I
feel is residents are going to be more understanding uh if the people ahead of them on that list are fellow residents. What people have complained to me personally about is, you know, you're making these available to out oftowners when you don't have any legal requirement to do
so. And that that's what swayed me once I found out I thought we did have a legal requirement once Mr. Cannon explained um that we don't that honestly swayed me as well. Any other comments? >> Yeah. And I just I would agree with
Councilman Dreamblad that our our job here number one is to serve our residents number one. That's the that's the number one job that we have. Second to that is okay the broader community but we have to serve our community our residents of Bradley Beach first and I
think that this does that. If there are no other comments, I will make a motion that we um approve for introduction ordinance 2025-38 the beachfront areas and adjacent waters uh modifications we're making to beach
locker rentals. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble, >> yes. Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nikki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> no. >> Mayor Gupt, >> yes. Under adoptions, uh we have six. Each of these adoptions we will open up for
public comment. U bond ordinance 2025-31. I'm going to turn this over to Mr. Noiki because you probably you've led the charge on much of this and just maybe a brief overview to the public. Okay. Um yes, this is a bottom earth ordinance um
related to Silven Lake. Um currently there's a project that's happening as as we speak out there today which is the outfall and that's the uh old flume that goes out to the ocean that collapsed several years ago and DP is um uh paying
for you know 75% of that and we are cost sharing with Avon the other 5%. And uh we had issued bonds for that to cover that um jointly with uh the town of Avon. Um and that project is ongoing.
And what we found is that we've also have a problem with the outlet gate. And that outlet gate which is a key functional element that controls the water elevations in the lake. And that failed several years ago. And then we put plastic up and some, you know, some
boards and trying to um control the water flow that's escaping through that gate. That's failed. So we identified, we did some temporary repairs to it about a year and a half ago, two years ago. That failed again. And so we keep trying to fix it. D has agreed that um
yeah, this is this isn't necessarily a quote emergency because it didn't collapse and the water will flow out, but it is leaking and it's an imminent failure at some point. So they've agreed that we should we we could u include that into this project uh that is
ongoing that which saves the burrows of Avon and Bradley a lot of extra dollars of going out and advertising this and contracting it separately to do a change order to that contract. And so what this ordinance does is provides the funding because there's three two things that
the the um D said. One, you need to demonstrate that you have the money in place to do it uh in November. And two, you need to get your permits in and the design done um and be able to show that you're able to then incorporate it timely not to delay that project. Uh so
we've done those check those boxes. permits have been submitted to DEB uh for the um general permit for wetlands as well as a permit for um dam safety and um the engineering uh documents are being advanced uh to be able to issue a
change order and this here is the last piece of that puzzle is putting the dollars in place to be able to show D that uh that Avon and us are willing to support this project. We've also asked the D to come to the table with
additional funds. We know they have contingency money uh in their contract. And they said, you know, if in fact uh they don't have to spend that contingency, in other words, that the existing project moves on schedule, on time, uh and within costs, that
contingency money could be considered to be applied to this, which would then reduce the amount that we would have to spend with the fund. Uh so we're trying to get that to happen. We're also trying to negotiate with the contractor ultimately to get the price as low as possible so that we can actually uh come
in under this dollar value. This is basically a fund to be able to um basically put enough dollars in place to make sure that we can actually issue this if in fact we don't get money additional money from D. Um but we are hopeful that we can get some money from
D if everything goes well on the existing project. Uh so that that's what this ordinance it's for and so it increases uh $960,000 which is soft and hard cost for the replacement of the silver lake gate which is a critical element to the functionality of the
controlling of the water levels of the lake and we could have identified that that extra was it 900,000 pole or so yes the gate repair as a separate bond ordinance but we thought it made more sense because it's really part of this broader project to
amend and a prior bond ordinance adding the $900,000 or so. Correct. This is the controlling the wire that goes into the flow >> and this gets it done sooner, which is critical. >> Yeah. Otherwise, we would have had to go out um contract this and then end up
paying a contractor to mobilize um you know and and all their overhead trailers out there. So all that other cost would would increase the cost of the burrows to do this and then we would have to manage them ourselves. Here we have D on site already. the trailers are there, their inspectors are there, and this
comes in as part of their contract and um helps manage it at a lower cost. >> And the timing is so critical. If anyone goes to Silven Lake and looks at the area on the eastern side of Silven Lake, there's plastic that's hanging there right now. So, we're like hanging on a thread every time we have a storm.
>> Yes. >> And every time we operate those, it's a hand controlled gate. They're called slle gates, which are basically, you know, pieces of metal that you unscrew and you adjust those based on water elevations. And every time we do that, it gets looser and looser and, you know,
cuz it's just a wooden front with these steel gates on it and it's and it's falling apart. >> So, if that gate were to fail, >> the water would either not be able to be drained out or all the water would >> overflow >> would either overflow or flow out of the lake and would dry up,
>> right? And that's why this is a critical piece of the infrastructure >> into the ocean >> into the ocean. >> And the final point before I open it up to the public is the vast majority 75% or or so of this project is uh currently
targeted to be funded by grant funding. Not yet determined the gate because we're hoping that we can weave that in. But vast majority of this is still going to be funded by grant funding. We borrow the money to demonstrate now that the money's available. we we approve the
borrowing of the money, but we'll either spend the money and then get reimbursed by the grant funding or if we can get access to the grant funding so we don't even have to formally borrow the money. But tonight, what we're talking about is approving the bureau to borrow this to
the extent we need it. >> Correct. >> Do we do we know the timetable or the current project that's going on in terms of where they are? And I I don't know if um RBA is going to report on it or not, but um you know that that will play a role also in when the gate will get
addressed and if there will be funding that will cover some of the cost. >> Yeah. Right now the found the project is on schedule. They've removed they dug out the dunes. They've actually removed all the armory big boulders uh and the um the old wood box is exposed.
Next step is to um put in a coffer dam to remove the box and uh drive new piles and then put in a 54 in steel pipe that will connect from from a box there at Ocean Avenue um and then and to be piped into the ocean. So this that that
project is scheduled to be completed here in um late winter early early spring. So basically February time frame >> and the goal here is to incorporate this into the contract and he can do this work during the winter months.
>> So thank you Councilman. Uh if no other comment here, let's open it up to the public. I'll make a motion that we formally open this up to the public for any comments or questions you may have. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble? Yes. >> Mlett? Yes. >> Mr. Noiki? Yes. >> Mr. Weber? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubetzi? >> Yes. Comments or questions? Raise your
hand, please. This was obviously very clear to all of you. >> Paul did a great job. Thank you. >> We've been talking about this for a while. We have. All right. I will make a motion that we approve for adoption bond ordinance 2025-31. >> Second.
>> Mr. Noville. >> Yes. M. Green. Yes. Mr. Nikki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubosi. >> Yes. >> Ordinance 2025-32. Uh this is uh creating a new chapter 386 for single-use food service items. And
I'm wondering if I might ask Mr. Councilman Weber to give us a brief overview. >> Sure. Based on Gary's comments, we've done enough environmental stuff in this town. So maybe maybe we don't need to comment that. Uh this is a what we would call a skip the stuff uh
at bill whatever. Um, skip the stuff. Meaning when you get takeout food, you get a lot of often you get a lot of non-food stuff with it that you didn't necessarily ask for or want or need. Uh, plastic utensils, plastic condiment packets, all sorts of other stuff. Um,
skip the stuff laws. This law, the way it's read, you can have any of that stuff. You can have all of that stuff. You just have to ask for it. Um, and that's pretty, you know, it makes the default not getting all of that stuff as opposed to uh getting it all. Many people have a an entire drawer in their
kitchen filled with this stuff and they didn't want it but they go about throwing it out. Um so it simply changes what happens when you do when you uh get take out food and that's kind of it in a nutshell. This was you know we had the first a workshop on this. We had the
first reading uh a while back and this is one of those that just skipped a meeting. So um that's kind of it. And John, there have been the gentleman you had join us via Zoom, the expert on this, and others have said uh some some folks think restaurants might be against
this, but in fact, it saves some money. Most of them applaud this. >> Yeah. And there certainly there's some restaurants we asked around in town. There's some that are doing this now, like they already do that. There's not a lot. So that's great, but my the rationale is well, we can't always count on those same business owner. Like the business may change, those businesses
may come and go. So, um, having it as a law probably is going to make less plastic. And yeah, in Redbank where they have this, there's a a survey of, you know, 30 restaurants or so, and they were giving away 94% less stuff. Don't
know what that translated to on uh, you know, in dollars and cents, but if they were giving out 94% less fewer, you know, utensils and you know, all that other stuff, um, that's got to be saving our money. So, should be should be savings. Yes. >> Okay. I will make a motion that we open it up to the public for any comments or
questions. Second, >> Mr. Noble, >> yes. Mr. Greenblad, >> yes. >> Mr. Noiki? >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubos? >> Yes. Comments or questions from the public on skip the stuff. >> Okay. Seeing no comments or questions, I'll make a motion that we close the
public session and >> hand. Oh, there's hand raised. >> No, that's that's the cursor. It's not a hand. >> Okay. Oh, yeah. >> Put it in the corner. So, just after we take the vote. >> Okay. Uh, so make make a motion to close the public session and approve the uh
adoption of ordinance 2025-32. Skip skip skip the stuff. >> Second, Mr. Noble. >> Yes, Mr. Greenblot. >> Um, before I I didn't have a chance to comment or ask the question because I wanted to ask you actually um how do we notify all of the businesses of this? I
I understand and I had asked the question previously but we had come to any real understanding so we don't have to regularly uh you know announce besides ordin uh resolutions or ordinances that we pass and then I was thinking I is is there an opportunity
maybe for the BBBCA to actually communicate with all the businesses on this so businesses are aware >> I think yes to that uh I should have mentioned there's essentially a grace period in the last three months so there's going to be three months of education just getting uh the restaurants attuned to that. Uh I
don't think we want to be prescriptive in the in the law to say, you know, this has to happen, that has to happen. BBBC is a great uh is a great option. I would reach out I'm going to reach out to the administrator say what what's best. I mean, is it is it a letter? Is it, you know, does what's best and figure out
what's best. But I think involving BBBCA and the environmental commission if they want to be involved and uh to do that, but we have three months to do that and they'll get up to speed in three months. that gives them a time to, you know, they go through inventory or whatever before we get into the, you know, ramp up to the end of the spring.
>> Right. Well, thank you, John. And absolutely. Yes. >> Um, Mr. Noiki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubet. >> Yes. >> All right. Ordinance 2025-33. Uh this is regarding amending chapter
270 specifically about planting strips and um the the uh this is a I've got to revisit this for a second myself. But the uh the challenge with planning strips in Bradley Beach is we have an
existing ordinance that says uh as as of a certain date you can no longer anyone who's before the state is grandfathered. anyone after the state can't put things like papers and uh uh uh what's it
called? Astroturf and uh and other things in the planting strip. The problem with that is nobody within the burrow has a record of exactly who had these things and who didn't have these things as of that date which was over a
decade ago. So largely what we're doing here is we've changed wording to say we're getting away from measuring it as of of any particular effective date and calling it grandfathered. Instead, we're still saying these same things are are not um to be approved, not allowed in
the burrow. That's not changing. But instead of tying it to some old date, we're just saying at the time you have a a CCO, a change in current occupancy, at that time you've got to make it right. So, if you're selling your house and the new buyer's coming in, they've got to
pull the the astroturf out of the planning strip. They've got to pull the pavers out of the planning strip. But it's just a way for the burrow to get back to a a state a state that we want that we desire, which is to have grass instead of other things occupying our planning strip, bushes that could block
line of sight to cars and so forth. So, uh that's that's the idea here. We're really just making it a more definitive process to get the town back to the place we'd like it to be. Comments or questions from the council? I'll just say that, you know, the it's going to
bring more of a uniform look and it's going to, I think, improve the look of the town from the streets of the curb appeal and just to know there's going to be grass and there's going to be trees and there going to be not much else. Um, I do hope that people that have bushes
or shrubs on their property will not wait until they do some kind of change of occupancy and need a need a CO and just take it upon themselves for a safety reason to just get rid of the bush, put down some the grass and grass and only grass. But yeah, we had a
lengthy discussion on this last month >> couple meetings ago. >> Any other comments, questions from council? Okay, I'll make a motion we open it up to the public to ask any questions or make any comments you have on 2025-33, our amendments to the planning shirts.
>> Second, >> Mr. Noble. Yes. Miss Greenblat, >> yes. >> Mr. Niki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Guboszi, >> yes. Comments or questions from the public? >> Okay, great. Seeing none, I'll make a motion that we close the public session. And >> we have a hand.
>> We actually do. Yes sir. Mr. Napkin. >> Okay. Thank you. All the champion 411 and a half Lorraine. I think I last time we had a workshop on this or a discussion, I mentioned that actually having a pathway going through the
planning strip is very handy for people with mobility problems and getting to their cars or getting out of a car and visiting somebody. Um, and I I I really think it's a shame that that we're
getting uh we're effectively outlawing those when somebody uh um buys a new property, they they will not be able to maintain that that little sidewalk going to the street.
Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you for your comment. Other comments or questions? Okay. Um, I will make a motion that we formally close the public session and uh adopt
2025-33 planning shows. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble? >> Yes. >> M. Greenblat? >> Yes. >> Mr. Nikki? >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber? >> Yes. >> Mayor Guboszi? >> Yes. 2025-34
is uh an increase in zoning fees. This is actually pretty straightforward. We we had not had a a zoning permit increase in at least a decade. We couldn't pin down exactly when the last one was um updated, but the current zoning permit fee is $45. We're bumping
that to $75. Uh again, it's been over a decade. And there's a thing called the zoning determination, which I'm told by our zoning department. As far as they know, no one's ever asked them to do this. Uh there's a current fee for that and I'll
explain it in a second. We charge $100. Same thing. It's been that way for many years. We're moving that to $150. The reality is nobody seems to utilize this service. But especially realtors, I'm told, are usually the ones who if they're helping you sell your house and
they want to attest to potential buyers that everything's good, it's on the right way, the fence is not too far away or too close to your yard or your neighbor's yard or whatever. you can come in in this case now you'd pay $150. Our zoning officer would go through our
records, go through the you know the files we have and give an attestation that the the house is compliant. So that's the idea of it. Again, no one tends to use it, but we if anyone needs that, we bump the fee from $1 to $150.
Any other that's really all that's happening here. Any other comments or questions? Make a motion that we open it to the public for comments or questions. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble? Yes. M. Greenblat? Yes. Mr. Noiki? Yes. >> Mr. Weber? Yes. >> Mayor Guboski? >> Yes.
Comments or questions? Ladies and gentlemen, >> are these things on this? >> We've been through this a lot though already. So, >> all right. Seeing no questions in Zoom either, I'll make a motion that we close the public session and we adopt uh
2025-34 the increase in zoning fees. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble, yes. >> Mr. Greenblat, yes. Mr. Nikki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Gubosi, >> yes. Okay, two to go. Ordinance 2025-35 is basically uh replacing chap current
chapter 120 in our in our uh e code uh related to bamboo and invasive plants. And what's really happening here is we have an ordinance that's largely ineffective in our efforts to regulate bamboo. The key problem with bamboo is
experts tell us and and apparently this is their reality. They'd never know if if they're trying to remove it, if they got it all out without coming back to inspect it a year later. Uh we don't have any requirement yet to come back to inspect a year later. Uh we don't have
any uh official fines in place to u uh for folks who are um not managing their bamboo. Again, bamboo can be a problem not only for the owner of the property but for adjacent properties. So this is an effort to better control uh the
planting and or spreading of bamboo in in the in the burrow. So we've included in here now additional definitions around fines uh and def and additional definitions around times of inspection to make sure that bamboo removal has
been complete. That's largely what's happening here. Any comments or questions? >> Council, we've covered this too. >> Okay. Uh, make a motion that we open it to the public for comments or questions on 2025-35. >> Second. >> I have >> one second. One second.
>> Mr. Noble. Yeah. M. Greenblat. >> Yes. >> Mr. Noiki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubosi. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Virtue. >> Mary Virtue. >> Come on up. >> Um, we we have problem. We don't have
>> Could you just state your name and address, please? Mary Burch 420 moment. >> Thank you. >> We have a problem with neighbors that have and it's spreading all over the place now. They won't let anybody in their yards inspect anything.
So, what do you do about that? She's really, >> you know, >> we we have this issue all over town and we have a solution for you. Matt, do you want to take it offline or do you want to give a quick summary now? >> Yeah. Um here's uh my card, my son on
it. Just give me a call tomorrow and we'll send a code enforcer to the house >> as well. Oh, we've had this issue and our code enforcement will he has he has authority to add to the property.
>> Yeah, cuz every spring >> and it probably gets worse. >> I bet it is getting worse. >> And we really >> they grow fast. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then then you can't stop them. Part of our old ordinance that we're changing said, well, we're leaving it in, but we know it's relatively
ineffective. Our old ordinance says you put a metal sheet uh 3 ft down. Now, we've been told subsequent to adopting that ordinance, which was a couple years ago, that basically metal doesn't stop bamboo. If given enough time, it'll find its way around. So, but what we've also
found is we we can aggressively enforce this and we want to take the pressure off of the neighbors. We don't want neighbors having to tattle on neighbors. >> Uh so uh code is doing our best. For example, there's one house that I won't mention addresses, but there's one house
bamboo was pretty close to the street and uh you know code had code talked to that person. That person brought a lawyer and we still were able to reach an understanding that they had to better manage their bamboo. So um so please let Mr. Dohy know and we'll definitely get
on it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Give me a call anytime after 4:30 in the morning. All right. >> 10. >> Okay. >> Any other comments or questions from the audience? >> Okay. Seeing none, I'll motion to close
the the public comment and uh and approve adoption of uh where am I? 2025-35. >> Second, >> Mr. Noble. Yes. >> Miss Greenblat. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nikki? >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber? >> Yes. Yes, Mayor Gutz.
>> Yes. And last but not least, Ordinance 2025-36. We saved another pretty easy one for last. Chapter 160 is being amended a handful, four or five uh construction code fees, fees for construction permits and so forth. Um we
had already changed these once, but they didn't align with um uh uniform construction code guidelines for a couple of these fees. So this is just making amendments to make sure that the fees for those four or five areas are now aligned with the UCC. So it's
somewhat of an administrative amendment. >> Right. Comments or questions? >> Good. >> All right. I make a motion that we open it to the public for comments or questions. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble. Yes. >> M. Greenblat. Yes. >> Mr. Nikki. Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubos.
>> Yes. Uh public comments or questions about our uniform construction code fees? Okay, seeing none, I'll make a motion we close the public session and uh adopt ordinance 2025-36.
>> Second, >> Mr. Noble on the junger. >> Uh, yes, Miss Greenwood. Next, Mr. Noiki, yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Guboszi, >> yes. Okay. Item 10 on the agenda is communications. There are none. Item 11
are resolutions and we have a number of them. We'll start with uh individual resolution 2025-328 our bill list which normally is at the end of our resolutions right here. >> But do we >> Yeah, it's it's
okay. Just confused me. I thought we were done. >> Uh uh comments or questions from the council? >> My questions were answered. Thank you. As were mine. Thank you. Who's answering all these questions? >> Oh, the mayor,
>> Mr. Dhy. All right. U with no other questions, I'll make a motion that we approve individual resolution 2025 326 billist of November 6. >> Second, Mr. Noble. >> Yes. Miss Greenblat. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nikki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Guboszi.
>> Yes. 2025-329. We have good news uh that our own Tiffany Dreshi has passed a her registar uh licensing exam and we are um making a resolution to name her as alternate
deputy registar appointment. >> Great. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. Mr. Noble, congratulations to Tiffany. Yes. Miss Greenblat. Yes. >> Mr. Nikki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubosi. Yes. 2025-330
amending resolution 2025-250 requesting the New Jersey Department of Transportation change to parking space time limit on the west side of Main Street. What this is in the front of Bur Hall, we have the space board. They're not delineated, but roughly uh seven
parking spaces where people can park there for a limit of 15 minutes. And many of you may remember that a while back as we were reconfiguring our own parking, municipal parking lot so that the public could park there. At that time, we passed an ordinance. Now,
that's keep in mind the the main street right here is state highway. We needed the state's permission. We passed an ordinance saying we're taking we're stopping the 15minute. We're going to expand those seven spots to be uh 2hour limit to enable visitors to go to
restaurants and you know not just have to leave in 15 minutes. Uh the state had given us verbal approval to do so but subsequent to that they've given us very specific language they'd like us to use. What this resolution is doing is adopting the state specific language.
It's basically saying the same thing that we'll be able to move those spots from 15 minutes to two hours. So with that um comments or questions from the council? >> I just have a comment because I had asked the question um and I I got an answer. Thank you Eric and that was um
you know it from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. is what was needed to be included in that um for 2-hour parking on that area. And so my understanding is is that now it aligns with the rest of the street uh or the rest of a portion of Main Street
or Route 71. Um so I I guess After 6 PM, cars can park for more than two hours at a time and cars can park overnight on Main Street. >> Is that correct? >> I'm not sure about overnight, actually. >> Yes, they they can. They can. >> Yeah. Don't forget people live along Main Street, right?
>> Oh, I Yeah, they can. Uh yeah. So, it works out really well. They come home from work, you know, they can park at 6:00 cuz you got two hours there and then they can stay overnight, >> right? >> And our own lot I don't have in front of me, but I believe uh that might not that's up to 8 hours, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. Park to 8:00.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. >> But it's not two-hour parking along all of Main Street. >> I don't know. South End, I believe, is >> most I think it is. No, >> I think it is. >> I understand the South of Evergreen. >> South of Evergreen is is
>> is south of Evergreen is very short. >> That's basically where the most of the residentials are, right? like less business, more residential. >> And I just like to say that one of the businesses very close to these spots should has been asking for this for a
very long time. Thankfully, they're still here and they're still in business and this this should make them very happy. And I don't have the exact numbers in front. I we've shared with the public before, but basically based on the reconfiguring we did here, the fire department uh who really controls they have a a manyear lease with the
burough. So they control the fire um department banquet hall. They have a lot of parking over there. They have graciously allowed our burrow employees to park in in some of those spaces during the day. Between them allowing us to have an extra as many as 10 spaces
and reconfigure we did in our main lot and adding these spots total, we've added u the capacity for 10 or more spots for the public to utilize for visiting our restaurants and our shops. So, it it worked out to be a pretty good
horse training exercise all around. So, um with that said, I will make a motion that we approve 2025-330 amending resolution 2025-250. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble, yes. >> Mr. Green, yes. Mr. Nikki,
>> yes. Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Gubossi, >> yes. 2025-331 is the approval of a Turkey run that uh the young man earlier Christian spoke to us about Mr. Jordy. Can you just give
the the public a quick overview of the background on that because I know you were instrumental in working with them. >> Oh go. >> Uh yeah. So uh there had been a turkey trot run in the past that benefited the pond in Avon. People remember what that was. It was a ice skating rink sort of
by the the train tracks in Avon. Uh that pond is no longer there. Doesn't operate anymore. So the uh turkey truck kind of just faded away. So uh this young gentleman uh again he's a sophomore at CBA who lives on Burlington Avenue here in Beach approached the burrow and said,
you know, I'd like to bring something back. Uh I know this is the first year for it. Um so he wanted to keep the expenses as low as possible. So, they're going to stay on the prominade the entire time. Uh, start at the gazebo, go north to Ocean Grove, uh, stop before
getting to Ocean Grove, turn around, head south to Avon, stop before getting there because who wants to go in Avon anyway, and then come back to the gazebo and finish there. So, it's not exactly like a 5K. It's around two milesish.
>> Um, but it's a, you know, it's a good community event. uh the the the morning of Thanksgiving. Uh like he said, it's a good time to get a little exercise in before we uh become uh glutton for the rest of the day. Uh and the money he's raising, as
he mentioned, is going to the Mercy Center, which is in Asbury Park. Um they do a tremendous job, and one of the things they have now that's so important is a food pantry um that gets utilized by all the the the families in the surrounding communities. So, uh, we're
going to be able to do this, um, without any expense to the police, uh, without any expense to Department of Public Works. Uh, I myself am going to run the Turkey Trot very slowly. Um, and, uh, I know that our our, um, DPW director,
Bajio Capone, also offered to come and volunteer his time in case there is anything to clean up afterwards. So both and I will be there uh to ensure that once the race is done uh the prominade is as clean as it was before.
>> My understanding is you expecting to win this race. >> I am I am expected to win this race. True. Gobble gobble. But I'm not sure if I'll be able to to meet that expectation there. >> Is Christian fundraising for this? >> Uh yes. Yes. So all the funds that are
raised uh will go to Mercy Center in uh in Adri. So, is there a flyer or something where we can find out how to donate? >> Uh, yeah, they wanted to wait until you approved it as the governing body and then they'll uh begin all that. I will make sure to get it to all the members of council. We'll put it on our
newsletter that Amy Baker puts out and try to get the word out as far and wide in the town. And I know this this is a bit unusual in that Christian doesn't represent a 501c3. Typically, you know, we've got non nonforprofits coming to us
with events like this and and we went through a pretty good exercise led by Mr. Dohy uh to make sure that we had some uh confirmation that all proceeds that proceeds would go to the Mercy Center um that he would stay on the boardwalk because at one point there was
a discussion that they would go down to the uh boundary with Avon and we said no no you can't be on the street where we've got police requirements and so forth. So, uh, I think Mr. Dohy explained this to me, brought it to my attention. We got to a point where we said, you know, we can control this.
It's a nice gesture, a nice festive thing for Bradley Beach to host, uh, with minimal resources devoted from Bradley Beach. So, um, we thought it would be worth bringing it to the council, >> right? And I also think it's nice that, you know, you have a 14-year-old boy in your community that is trying to do
something positive. Um, so you know, I I somewhat tortured him by making him speak in front of you all. Uh, which nerve-wracking for anyone, let alone a 14-year-old. Um, but you know, he did a good job. And and you know, this is the type of character I think you want to develop in a small community like
Bradley Beach. >> Very good. So, thank you, Matt, for doing that. And in case anyone doesn't know, Matt was like what, a state champion or a county champion? >> Uh, two-time state champion. Yes, sir. >> Two time state champion. >> Thank you for pointing that out. Back here in high school last century in turkey trance. >> Yeah. In what? In what?
>> In what? In what event? >> In truth. >> Diminish it all you like. Councilman Noiki. I'm very proud of those words. I got the sewer gun. >> But uh I found that out. I was very impressed that he really was a state champion a couple times over and did not realize that. And you were actually
fairly accomplished in college, too, as I as I understand. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> So you you can brag about that another time. Oh, that I'll save that for after the turkey track. >> But needless to say, any kind of running event is near and dear to Matt's heart. So, with that said, I will make a motion
that we approve 2025-331 the uh turkey runwalk event for November 27th, 7:30 in the morning till 12:00 p.m. >> Second. >> Mr. Noble, >> yes. >> Miss Greenplit, >> yes. >> Mr. Nikki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Guboszi,
>> yes. 2025-332 approving the annual bonfire for Friday, November 28th, 2025. Any comments or questions? >> I'll just say this is a great event. >> Yeah, >> it's it's just a great thing for the family, you know, right after Thanksgiving. It's just it's wonderful.
I will say out loud, I want the town to consider moving it to a different beach in the future because this is the by my estimation the smallest beach in the burrow and uh moving all that sand before and after I think it just makes it a road more so big wide beaches like
Evergreen or up by like New York tip. So next year consider it. >> Okay, I'm making a note to that effect, John. Thank you. >> Maybe they're trying to centralize it. It doesn't make sense. I don't know why it's there. You couldn't the gazebo. >> Yeah, but there's no beach entrance at
the gazebo. It was just uh it's actually Gary Gary I remember asked my he said and he was nervous. He said Dr. You have any any problem with us having a bonfire on the beach? I was like >> meaning environmental. I was like no that sounds like a great event. So uh
that's when that tradition started. So I don't know why they picked that could be a fire. We should probably try tech fire folks but anyway. All right. Any if no other comments, I'll make a motion that we approve 2025-332 bonfire November 28.
>> Second, >> Mr. Noble. Yes. M. Green. Yes. >> Mr. Nikki. Yes. Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubos. >> Yes. >> 2025-33 resolution authorizing a one-year lease extension for the 2026 surf camp. Everything the burrow hears is wonderful
things about this organization. They do a great job. Parents tell us their kids love it. So, uh, I think it's a a, you know, just a great, uh, organization to keep partnering with. Any comments or questions? >> I took a lesson there. >> Did you really? >> It was excellent. Cool. >> Yeah.
>> Did you stand up on the board? >> No, but I dreamt about it. So, why a lease extension and not a new lease or, you know, >> I think they're just I think they're just exercising an option that's in the the lease and after this one. Yeah, this
is the third year and then it goes up again >> next year. >> Do it again. >> Okay, I'll make a motion that we uh approve 2025-333 the one-year lease extension for Surf Camp. >> Second.
>> Mr. Noble, >> yes. >> Miss Greenblat, >> yes. >> Mr. Nikki, yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Guboszi, >> yes. 2025-334 is authorizing a one-year lease extension agreement for the 2026 volleyball clinics. Any comments or questions?
>> I'll make a motion that we approve 2025-334 for volleyball clinics. >> Second, >> Mr. Noble? Yes. >> Miss Greenblat? Yes. >> Mr. Noiki? >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber? >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubos? >> Yes. Okay. 335, I'm sorry, 2025-335
is establishing the 2026 seasonal beach badge prices and sale dates. Now, uh, Erica, I'm looking for that thing you just handed me earlier. Y >> we the council is looking at a a blank uh current resolution because we need to
fill in prices, but the current prices for the se these are seasonal badges. The current prices for adult $90 and this is without discounting. We do have some early discounts, early sales discounts. Senior citizens 30 and 65 and
over $35. Juniors 13, 14, and 15 $35. So those are current prices. Any discussion as to whether or not we should adjust the prices up or down? >> I I actually took a look at um from 2021 to 2025 just to see the trajectory of
the the pricing. Um so for the past um from 2021 to 2023 uh we kept prices stable at $80 um for the season for adults. Um then 2024 bumped it up to 85 and then last year
bumped it up to 90. Um then for senior and junior badges um in 2023 we bumped it up from 30 to 35. Then we bumped it up again in 2024 to 37. Then we brought
it down last year to $35 for senior and junior. And um uh so you know now we're at um I guess last year with $90. Uh I don't know that's I just tried to do
some sort of analysis to see you know if we were going to keep on increasing or if we were going to try and stay stable. I think the challenge that since I've been up here for five years now um there's always one question asked which is what's everybody else doing and in
fact dailies people give you know municipalities get pretty close um seasonal badges you know there's sometimes apples oranges and grapefruits as you try to compare prices um but my typical reaction is you know how are just how's the beach running profit-wise
revenue-wise because I shouldn't say profit but are we covering expenses is are we generating at least small margins because margins are good because sooner or later we're going to have a bad weather summer and we're going to give up a lot of those that surplus. So in general I like it when we're adding 50
grand 100 even 150 if it looks like any more than that like this past year for example was a good revenue year. We don't yet have all the expense data in revenue was a good year. We had good weather. >> Two is it top two million? >> Over two million. >> Yeah. Yeah. It was a good revenue year.
But for example, we had a lot of uh debt service added last year and that's why Sean was reading these numbers. That's why we bumped some of the dollars a little bit last year. Uh we're probably going to have a little more debt service. We're talking about the the
concession and the bathrooms for example at 54 Ocean. Um but my sense of this is you know our as trustees of this um beach each utility my sense is that revenue right now based on reasonable weather assumptions uh should be
sufficient. So I would suggest we don't adjust the badges that well I have had people I have had residents say you should bump them something. And by the way we're talking about roughly half of the badge revenue. The other half is individual prices which we won't set until early next year.
Right. A quick question with the I mean the DPW contract got settled earlier this year. Obviously obviously there's an increase some of the increased cost of land debt attributed to the beach. So given what you just said like even even
considering that you think we can still keep it stable? >> I it it's a great question. Uh I don't have any definitive data that I can say we like I did last year when I said we should increase the rates and the mayor agreed with me and you guys the council agreed
>> uh entering this year and I think we had a good year to follow but entering this year we had a surplus of roughly 700,000 >> so that was pretty that's good that's better than we've had in we had that one crazy year where it's spiked up because of co but typically our our surplus has
been closer to 400 300 once or twice 500 we got up a million that co year, but right now it's 700,000. That's a pretty healthy surplus on a $2.5 million total budget. >> So I don't I mean if anybody wanted to suggest bumping the price a dollar or two
>> with the dailies of what 13? >> Yeah. Yeah. We haven't addressed 2026, but yes. Yeah. >> Okay. >> And these aren't discounted. This is the correct >> right. The discount goes to $80 for the adults from >> It did last year. >> It did last year. Yeah. We we could set
what the discount is too, right? Like the early bird discount. >> Yeah, there's Okay, so there's a seasonal um a holiday uh sale that's $70. That's between that's for the month of December and then after December it's $80. >> Um
>> that's pre-season price. And then uh after January it goes to 90. anybody that comes in. >> And and I guess to to give you guys all one other thought, um $1 increase or decrease on the dailies uh equates to $100,000 because we sell
aboutund 110,000 dailies every most years. >> Um $10 on these on uh you know on average across all. So, you know, maybe a little more on the adult and a little less on the others, but roughly a $10 increase
overall here would be the same $100,000. >> I'm just going to point out one thing. If we approve this as is, >> and it has 2024 dates that the dates are >> No, that I gave everybody a 2024 resolution so they can compare.
>> So, they rates. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, you have the blank. >> Yeah, we have the blank one there. That's okay. >> So, I mean, is there thought to increase or decrease these a couple bucks? Leave it the same. What do you What do you all think?
>> It was enough money collected to run successfully and have extra. Like you said, the surplus is 700,000. I feel comfortable with that. I'd say we should keep it the same. >> Yeah. One other thing I'll throw out just so you, you know, have this in the back of your mind. Next year, the hope you just I talked to Baja Kavon, our
director of DPW, the hope is to add one probably one ramp. These ramps go for over $200,000, but right now we have half of our beach entrance is basically of ramps over time. We'd like to add a ramp a year maybe. Uh but that's a
couple hundred grand right there. Uh we do have the concession that we're hoping to have up and running by uh Memorial Day and we'd like to add another 100,000 of those super wide ten wide moi mats. Uh we think a 100,000 could get covered three more beaches. So 100,000 there,
you know, maybe 200,000 for a ramp, maybe another 100,000 or so. We could be spending we could be trying to spend 400,000 in beach enhancements in 2026. and and you have capital program of you have the bathrooms have you're going to
be doing a prominad extension a year from now and we have the the um the outfall that's currently under construction. So those are some big those are you know what you have to finance those. So, you know, I would say that what we should be doing is having our CFO will run through this and do a
projection on this for us as well based on, you know, debt service and, you know, um, and maybe look at some ranges and maybe I would be okay with leaving it this year, but knowing that there's a more likelihood that next year we might have to based on some financial analysis.
>> Yeah. and she started to your point Paul Matt asked her to do a preliminary analysis for you know how the prior year ended. We don't have really concrete expenditure numbers yet. Some of those expenditures tie to how we allocate
dollars from uh you know salaries from the DPW or the police or whatever. So that exercise we haven't completed yet. However, uh she felt we're likely to have at least a few hundred,000 of added surplus. So maybe bringing 700 to nine.
So we're feeling like we're in a very healthy state if we spend that if we do it very openly and for full uh public disclo disclosure. But it you that's the idea. We're supposed to take profits and margins and reinvest them in the beach. So if we do some of these things, we
should still be able to have a significant surplus afterwards. So then I would propose we maintain the the the prices for this coming season and then and get some detailed analysis and and look a little closer at it for next year. >> I'd agree. >> Do you want to make a motion? I'll make
a motion. >> Second. >> Are you passing this resolution or to keep >> with with maintaining the SARS? >> Yeah, that's okay. Um >> who signed the old one? >> Okay, keeping it the same as from 2024. Got it. Okay.
And who second that? >> 2025. >> Yeah. 25 2025 being maintained for 2024 and >> $90, $35 and $35. >> Okay. And you're comfortable with um the holiday sale or the holiday sale fee
still being 70 and the preseason still being 80 for December and January. >> So what when does the holiday sale? >> So the holiday sale starts December 1st. >> Okay. >> Okay. And it runs to December 30th and it's se the seasonal badges are $70. The
adult seasonal badges are 70. >> Okay. I thought I got the information that they were 80. >> No. So for the month of December it's $70. Got it. >> And then there's and then there's a preseason sale after December for the whole month of January and that that's
the $80. You're comfortable with those two prices? Okay. Good. >> All right. And now who did the second? Thank you, Mr. Mr. Noble, >> yes. >> Miss Greenblat, yes. >> Mr. Nikki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Dubosi, >> yes.
>> Item 2025-336. It's a resolution uh structure to reject the bids we received on the Ocean Avenue project to uh convert bathrooms and um and a concession. We were going to reject these bids because quite
honestly, they all came in higher than we expected. We didn't budget enough for the prices that people quoted. However, um I'm going to make a motion in a second that we don't vote on this tonight because um Mr. Dohy and our engineer are in discussions with the low
bidder. First, we would or would not hire um because he's a low bidder, but uh we may not have to include his entire scope and then the fees would come down dramatically and then we can move forward. So, I'm going to make a motion for now that we just table this and if
we need to reject bids, we can do that at our next meeting. Second. >> Um, Mr. Noble, >> yes. >> Miss Greenblat, >> yes. >> Mr. Nikki, >> yes. >> Mr. Weber, >> yes. >> Mayor Dupos, >> yes. >> And, uh, final individual resolution
2025-337, award of proposal for professional engineering services for CME for this project, the 54 Ocean Avenue reutilization of existing building. And uh, any comments or questions? I I had asked a question which was answered
um and that was um we have a $50,000 grant for that and now at this point it's coming in at 688 for all of the the soft costs right but I think Paul you had clarified that uh there were some
fees that weren't included >> originally yes the initial proposal my understanding was for for preliminary sort of schematic and preliminary design and then what wasn't included was the um final design uh advertisement and the um
engineering services during construction which includes construction administration and so that's the additional cost that is being requested um in this resolution. >> Okay. So that additional since the grant is for 50,000 the additional 188 is
going to come out of the um the beach utility. Okay. So, it's not coming out of municipal dollars. Okay. Right. >> Any other comments or questions? I'll make a No. >> No. All good. Thank you. >> I'll make a motion that we approve
2025-337. >> Second. Mr. Noble. >> Yes. >> Miss Green. Yes. >> Mr. Noiki. >> Yes. >> Mr. Weber. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gubosi. >> Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, we are coming down the home stretch. Item 12, announcements. We have none. Item 13A,
the the thing we all wait for, the administrative report. Mr. Dhy. >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, just want to update the council and the residents on a few of the projects going on in town. Um, you may have noticed there was some disruption on Fifth Avenue. Uh, the
sewer line is nearing completion. Um, unfortunately, we're probably not going to be able to pave the road and make it nice and smooth until sometime in the spring. Uh the reason why is the golf ball plants start closing down when the weather gets cold. Um so they're going
to do their very best and work with DPW in case um you know one of our concerns is we haven't had a lot of snow in a long time so we may be due for a snowstorm. So we want to be able to plow that road without destroying the the underlying work that was done. So, um
the uh the DPW is working with the contractor to ensure that the way that they um put down the temporary surface uh is going to line up well with them if they have to uh if they have the plow in the in the in the winter. Uh the second one, the recreation uh playground area
has come along very well. Uh the equipment is put in, the surface is done. Uh and this is a real state-of-the-art surface. um remarkable um especially for children if they ever fall or tumble. Um it's the best type of
service out there. Um the uh the the striping for the courts and the pickle ball courts uh will be done uh soon, but the surface itself again probably won't be done until the spring. and we uh will
have the project done by the end of this month when it comes to the playground. But there'll be a we anticipate a much grander opening sometime in the spring when it becomes, you know, better weather for the uh use of the courts and playground itself. Uh but both those are
are coming along very well. And uh I wanted to say something about Silver Lake, but of course, Councilman Noiki stole all my thunder and everything I was going to say because he knows it better than I do. So, But what's going what's going on with Silver Lake?
>> That's impressive construction that's going on out there. It's a great thing to to be able to go out there and watch a little bit of it. It's pretty impressive. >> It is. And and the contractor again is is doing a very good job. So that's all that's all I have tonight. >> That's great. Thank you. Thanks for
being on top of all this too, Matt. >> Okay. After the administrative report, we have mayor and council reports. Let me tonight start with councilwoman Greenbot. >> Oh, okay. >> Um, recreation. Uh, the recreation board has not met since our last council meeting.
I'll just share a few announcements that I repeat. Um, at every council meeting, uh, Maan open play runs every Friday 1 to 3 at the Bazi Center. The senior club meets this Wednesday. Uh, not this Wednesday, Wednesday, November 19th at
noon. Uh, senior game time Tuesdays is back. The first and third Tuesday of each month, uh, bring your own game and join friends at the Bazi Center for fun and community fellowship. Students in grades 5 through 12 are invited to participate in the art club,
which runs every Wednesday, 5:00 p.m. at the Neptune City Community Center, and that's at 1173rd Avenue across from the Stop and Shop. There's also the Glitter and Glue Crew every Tuesday and Thursday morning from 11:30 to 12:15. It's a fun
craft group for children ages 2 to 5. Uh the ghoulish gathering was held October 24th. It was a success despite its change in location. It was at the Evergreen Beach uh thanks to Unwae and our very own John Weber um who made the
event environmentally friendly by composting the pumpkins of composting. Um, the 4th annual Halloween trunk or treat was a great turnout and fun for all. Um, REC gave away a giant Halloween trophy to the best decorated trunk and
it went to the aliens and cows. The rec committee ne committee's next meeting will be Monday, November 10th at 6 p.m. Uh, the arts council met Monday, November 3rd. Um, Arts Council member Gwen Rosenblat will perform on flute and
piano at a Agodahim's project Saturday, November 8th at 700 p.m. 3001 McCabe Avenue. The whole community is invited to attend. Pizza will be served. No need to register. Their next meeting is scheduled for Monday, December 1st, 10:30 a.m. at the
Byz. and the Fletcher Lake Commission has not met since our last meeting. Thanks to the collective efforts of Neptune and Bradley's public works for managing the levels of Fletcher Lake in the face of the storm we had October 30th. Residents should be aware that when there's an
anticipated weather event, the towns will ensure to monitor lake levels and adjust accordingly. The air raator light was set was just installed in one fountain in the lake. A number of residents have remarked on them with appreciation. Air raiders will be removed shortly for the winter season.
The next uh Fletcher Lake Commission meeting is November 13th at 6 p.m. in this council chamber. That's my report. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Uh Councilman Wer. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh I want to start by saying congratulations to all the
council members up here for their resounding victories on election night and to Mr. Karp the high vote getter sitting down here who I will say is properly seated here at a council meeting uh and I'm assuming given access
to all the stuff that we got access to from Smith. >> Um wasn't that way when I got on but apparently this is the way to do it and uh we've been doing it that way for a while. Um just want to recognize the clerk puts in a very long day on election day. So, thank you, Erica. As
do all the pole workers. Some of them live here and some of them do not, but it's like a I don't even know want to know how long a day it is, but for the pole workers, it's like a 16 hour day. It's like it's a lot. So, we'll probably >> actually it was an 18 hour day. >> I was going to say a little bit more.
>> Um, signed up for But yes, thank you cuz uh it's all needed to to make our democracy worse. And thanks to the Firehouse for letting us use the Firehouse. kind of had it all set up and uh let us be there all day. Um speak about the firehouse moving into
environmental stuff, but the firehouse installed water bottle filling stations kind of like we have up at the up the ocean front. Uh cuz they told us they said, you know, the firefighters they train there a lot. There's weight equipment. They can do like, you know,
um physical fitness kind of training and they have their regular training and they just drink said president told me especially especially the young guys they drink a ton of water and he's like we're just we're just going to do water bottle filling stations and stop all this water bottle and uh that was great. The environmental commission kind of
helped them with the cost of that fine use of the environmental commission's money. Um so that's done and Todd made in the I think he's the president still the president right? Yeah. He said home run. It's great. They look great and they're functioning great in uh reducing
waste. Um more stuff about the environmental commission. They were looking at some changes to the ordinance that governs them and we finally got the feedback on what they can and cannot change. So, we're going to look for that at a at a council agenda in the near future. Um
this council woman mentioned this, but yes, before Halloween, the rec department had the pumpkin chucking event. Uh there was a big slingshot involved. It was I had visions of these things like going like hundreds of yards and across the It wasn't like that. But um it was mostly little kids and like you know if they get halfway across this
room they do there's a little target to shoot at. Anyway, but the pumpkins didn't fair so well but they did all get composted. Again the environment commissions use some of their funds to make sure that that happened which I think is totally appropriate. Um I do have a question. It's a legit question
about the whole Silven Lake thing. Uh some members of the environmental commission pointed out that there was a Ruters field monitoring station kind of in that area. At the very least it was like an animometer wind to measure wind speed. They might have been measuring some other uh environmental things and
it was right in that whole area that got excavated. Any idea what happened to that or if it's coming back or do you know? >> Well, I do know university comes out samples and that's part of you know I've not heard of being out. >> I think this is different. Do you remember that there was like some
equipment out there? >> I think Ruckers took a a weather station. >> Ruckers took it back, you said. Yeah. Little like a mini weather station. Yeah. You think Ruckers took it back? >> Do we know if it's going to come back after? >> Don't know. Okay. They were just curious and I thought I'd ask you cuz some
people seem to know a lot about the lake around here. Um and the next meeting of the uh environmental commission is December 3rd and that's the extent of my report. Mayor, >> thank you Councilman. I'll turn to council president Jane Denovo. >> Thank you, mayor. So, the Shade Tree
Commission had a meeting yesterday. They had four applications. Three U one was 300 4th Avenue. They're removing one tree. They're planting two trees. 318 Lraine, removing one, planting two trees. 200 Lraine, they're removing one
dead tree. And the 605 McCabe is removing two trees and replacing with two trees. the old days, these wouldn't have been replacements. Now, they're getting replaced. So, this is a wonderful thing. We're maintaining and expanding our tree canopy. Very important. They uh had the grant of
$40,000. They'll be doing the tree planting in the spring. No date is set just yet. Now, let's see. Board of Ed had a meeting October 23rd. Actually, we Sean and I had a meeting that night with the Southern Mammoth elected women. So,
I couldn't make it, but we did learn a lot and we traded notes with other towns like Spring Lake, W um Belmar, Avon. So, that was great. But, um at the board event, they had a presentation of the certificate of recognition of New Jersey
safe roots to school. Also, they had a presentation of the 2025 2026 NJSLA scores and they also did the HIV self assessment presentation which is harassment, intimidation and bullying.
So, um they they they have a a soul program where children learn how to respect other and it's a wonderful program and as you know it's a great school and uh the kids really respect each other there. It's lovely. tourism. Um they did not have a meeting since
they had a special meeting, but they want uh Amy Baker would like me to remind everybody the bonfire is the Friday after Thanksgiving. Uh November 28th, the time has not been set yet, but usually it's around 6:00 p.m. And Sunday,
November 30th is the tree lighting 400 p.m. And December the 14th is a Sunday. We're going to have a Hanukkah celebration. We're going to be lighting the monora. We're going to have a silent disco and delicious foods and many
surprises. And that completes my report. Thank you, Evelyn. >> Thank you, Council President and Councilman the Wiki. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um this report first um most people have heard about this already but um interestingly a
30-year-old Eatontown man was arrested and charged with one count of firstdegree armed robbery after he robbed a chase a bank located at 500 Main Street thanks to the swift action of the Brley Beach Police Department and Avon by the sea police departments which
led to his arrest. my kind prosecutor's office and the FBI red bank office were also involved in the investigation. So you never know what's going to happen in Bradley. Um also during this time uh officers
investigated two motor vehicle accidents and responded to several calls for service. On the first day of the report, um the operational period ending November 6, the squad responded to 24 day calls, 14 night calls for a total of 38 calls. 26
were for medical and 12 were fire calls. The squad provided medical overwatch for the Bradley Beach trunk as well as giving our treats out to the ghosts and goblins. They did not need any assistance first aidwise. Uh the squad also participated in the fire
department's Halloween parade. Uh the squad conducted one drill for the safety and education of the membership. Squad requested no mutual aid for the operational period. The squad fulfilled 100% of their assignments for the operational period. Total cost for the month of October 38 and five events and
they are always looking for volunteers for the first a squad free training for qualified individuals. Uh please check the website and uh Silven Lake. I talked much about this um just on the Bradley Boulevard work that's the bulkhead
replacement along Bradley Boulevard. Permits were submitted uh this this uh several weeks ago and that project seems to be on schedule. Um and that's my report. Mr. Mayor, thank you Councilman. Uh for my report, I I wanted to start
out by uh giving my congratulations to my colleague to my right and my two colleagues to the left and my soon to be future colleague uh sitting right in front of me. Um I know you guys ran unopposed, but uh you know, number one
is still wonderful that you've won. And maybe uh most importantly, I just want to acknowledge that you're all coming into this U3, especially Mitch may be a little less knowledgeable, but you guys are coming in eyes wide open, and you still chose to run again. And I appreciate that because there really is
a a strength of commitment that that you need to do the the job you do. And and having worked with you guys this year and Mitch looking forward to working with you next year, uh I can't I can't imagine a better team. So, congratulations. Um, number two, uh, I've got a list of
three, so keep I'll keep it as short as I can. Um, as you're probably all aware, the governor declared a state of emergency due to, uh, you know, food insecurity now that the federal government is deadlocked over the budget and therefore, you know, the snap uh,
food distributions have been kind of shut down. Uh, because of this, you know, it's it's not that funny, but it's a reality. our um head of OEM who handles emergencies and uh and
declarations of uh states of emergency called me and he said, "Mayor, um I'm used to hurricanes and terrible accidents or whatever, but I'm not sure how to mobilize. What do we do to to address this state of emergency?" And uh
and I told him honestly I I'm not sure myself but over this past week uh I've been actively engaged in talking to uh the elementary school where we've got a lot of students who are are getting lunches and breakfast during the day but they don't get it on weekends for
example they don't get an evening food that is from the school. Uh their families their parents or or infant children that don't attend school they may have food shortage and it'll be families in need. Um, and we have all these wonderful resources that, you know, that are available in general, but
what I've been doing over the past week is trying to mobilize these resources. So, working with the head of the food pantry, working with the superintendent of schools, uh, I've reached out to fellow mayors. The idea being um if they're interested as we come up with a
plan, maybe we could do some leveraging of that plan to multiple municipalities, get more opportunities to either create new donations for food directly to the food pantry or u uh financial donations, you know, someone who just wants to hand
a check for $50 or hand in some food gift certificates from a a stop and shop or so forth. So, we are uh working to rapidly organize around this. Uh you will hear a lot more probably over the next few days, certainly early next week. Um we'll probably be asking folks
on on November 11th is Veterans Day, our Veterans Day celebration. We're probably going to ask folks to just bring band goods, uh uh toiletries. Uh folks are really good typically about bringing food, but one of the things I've learned is there's a tremendous need for toilet
paper, toothpaste, things like that. So um don't limit yourselves to food. If you're able to donate, please consider, you know, all aspects of what a family might need. But anyway, there's a lot underway. You'll hear about it shortly. We'll be probably asking for financial as well as food donations. And we'll be
trying to leverage that effort across a number of municipalities in the area. And then finally, I just wanted to comment briefly on uh uh Mayor Anglestad's presentation to Mr. Weber. Um number one, Gary was eloquent, did a wonderful job capturing a lot of what
John's brought to our community. Uh but John, I want to make sure that you do plan to attend our meeting in December. We might have another recognition for you. So, >> okay, >> don't take December off. >> There's not good waves that day. >> Oh, that's right. These are a night.
Okay. So, uh, with that said, that concludes all of the mayor and council reports. And I will now make a motion that we open up to something really, really quick. Oh, please. >> So, I just want to thank um my deputy Michelle Wy also for election day
because um she was a very, very big help and she usually is anyway, but I just want to say thank you. >> Thanks to Michelle and to you, Erica. You're always a huge help. Okay, with that said, we'll open it up to the public for comments and questions about anything your heart desires. Yes, in the
back. Eileen, >> Eric, are you doing more than Michelle? >> Uh, I wouldn't say that too loud. I mean, >> or on a recorded line. >> Sorry. I mean, she's French Avenue. I'm just
curious, is there any way that we could just have a food drive for our school alone and not making sure these families get the benefit from of the generosity of the residents in our town? if yeah
we're we're discussing what I've been referring to as kind of macro level to just help the food pantry overall and a micro level to focus on our residents specifically families in the school and seniors that might be limited or shut in so we're possibly I didn't mention this
I plan to see if we can engage the meals on wheels organization they might be able to help us with deliveries so we're looking at all those >> okay and it will be publicized how we can Thanks. Thank you. >> The nerve of our uh communications director, she actually took this week to
vacation in Florida. Amy Hall, so she I've been communicating with her and we'll be we'll be ready to get word out next week. >> Thank you very much. Because I know as a resident and being a mother, we would all want to make sure these kids are better. Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Yes, Rick. Rick Barome 116 New York. Uh my only concern or thing I would like to bring up is with all these new ordinances going in which I agree with. Now how does one manage that? I don't know. We
had the infrastructure in the office to handle all that. First of all, you have to have the people coming in who who legally have whether they want their um their planting strips or the beach rentals and so forth. You have the
people when they come in normally and they have the paperwork to go through that. But what about the enforcement for the people let's say who have the parking who don't come in and register? Do we have backup on that? Do we have people are following that? So that's my
only concern is we have enough in-house to handle all that along with the Airbnb program we have which we see how many people weren't registering on the Airbnbs and they have to go through all that. So I'm just wanted to bring that up that I hope we have enough back
office help in order to facilitate and all these ordinances. So I have >> Thank you. The quick answer is yes. We we we uh our code enforcement officer who's he through a lot of what you just referenced, Mr. Bartell, is u uh
full-time as of a couple months ago. He's been with us for the majority of the year part-time. Uh but he's really ramped up and we've we've included all these different areas uh uh construction and zoning and so forth to help us develop these changes to our ordinances.
Um, I don't know if anyone's noticed, but pavers are being fixed uh in front of the bowling alley. I believe others are about to start on on Main Street at the south end of town. Uh, all of that is from our code enforcement officer being out there identifying to them that they have trip hazards with their
papers. So, >> how about the rest of the sidewalks? There a lot of sidewalks. >> Yeah. Uh, we'll get to it. you know, there's only so much we can do in a year, but we we are definitely making really good progress and uh I'm very pleased with the folks we brought in to help us execute on that. A lot of that
goes to Mr. Dhy who's helped me identify some of those folks. Um other comments or questions? Yes, sir. >> Uh Robert Costa, 619. I wanted to talk about uh the 48h hour parking ordinance
because in the last couple years we've gotten actually in the last couple months two visits from the police saying we had to move our car when we hadn't even been parked for 24 hours from the same place. It was simply because
someone called and complained. One of them said, "I didn't want you parking in front of our house." And that was during the construction when we could park in front of our guy. Uh, and it's just really an antiquated and really not
usable. I'm in violation right now because I work at home and I sensibly travel. So, I'm always constantly leaving my car and I don't have a driveway. I can't park anywhere but on the street. So, it seems like it's either in its execution in terms of
enforcement. Maybe instead of just assuming the party is guilty and asking them to move the car, which the officer both times said, "You have to move the car or say you're going to move the car." Or they come and mark the car and
wait 48 hours and then do it. Or maybe more effectively, put a sticker that for residents, full-time residents, would be able to place on their car that allows them to park on the street.
period. Just 48 hours. It's really completely ridiculous. >> It I would say from my experience of living here for almost 20 years as well as being on the council for five, I have not been aware of strict enforcement of
48 hours for the reasons you're saying, right? >> Uh we are I I would say the police are much stricter in their enforcement of two hours on Main Street. But I want to turn it over to the captain over here, Captain Browning, just Terry, to get your opinion because I'm especially surprised to hear you say somebody would
tell you move if you hadn't even been there 24 48 hours. They just call and say that they're violating. >> We the the police department doesn't proactively like look for every car that's out there and and try to figure out if you're there 40 hours. We respond
when somebody complains and we have to. If somebody complains and says whatever their motives are, if they call and say, "Hey, there's a car that's been parked in front of my house or it's been parked in this spot for lots of times they say weeks or 10 days or a month, we'll come and we'll just simply, you know, find
out who the owner is, knock on your door, and say, "Hey, listen. We got a complaint that has been here. You just have to make sure it moves." And by moves, it just has to move, you know, a foot or two in whatever direction. If you're not there, we leave a warning notice on it that you're dead. >> Yeah. The the only time we proactively
look for that is during patrols. If we see a car that has piles of leaves around, let's say, you know, grass growing or just clearly has not moved, flat tire or stuff like that. Then we'll we'll probably that's a very very small amount of time.
>> You know, usually it's just a complaint. And unfortunately, it is usually a neighbor that just doesn't like the car being in their spot or too close to whatever. And we can't really control that. We have to call and you know we have to respond to the call. >> Captain, one thing I'm hearing I'm curious if this gentleman is saying he's
been there 24 hours and a neighbor says he's been there 48. Do the police confirm that? I mean, how do you handle that? >> The presumption of guilt that really gets to me that we have to move the car because somebody lied instead of you
guys saying we mark the car and they >> wife. So I just want to tell you what happened. My neighbor didn't know we got a new car. So, she said, "I didn't know you got a new car." So, I called because I was parked too close to some shrubs she
had thrown out. The policeman came to my door on a Sunday morning at 8:00. I was sleeping. I was a nervous rut to have a cop come to my door. And he said, "You have," and I did, "You have to move your car out from the car." I said, "I was at the hospital yesterday. My sister had
been in the hospital." He said, "She called, you have to move your car." So, something's wrong. I get >> Yeah, there is an ordinance. It's if if we are if we receive a complaint, we're required by the ordinance to just make sure that that car isn't sitting there. I mean, maybe the presentation of you
have to move your car like right this minute. Maybe that was misinterpretation. You have to move it at some point. >> Say, you know, you have to move your car, but I don't want someone coming to my door at 8:00 in the morning when in fact I did nothing wrong >> and to scam her. there's something wrong with the ordinance is what I'm saying. I
don't blame the police. >> We do have we do have reoccurring times where there is just the car that seems to be there all the time or if there is like a neighbor thing. And once we're there enough times, we kind of realize like our officers will be able to say,
"Yes, that's, you know, headquarters. That's the car that's always in front of the house. You know, I was there last week or I was there yesterday. It moved. We don't have to bother you." But if again if they call it, you know, whenever they call, they call. I mean, if they call it like four in the morning, we're not going to knock on
your door till later on. We'll leave it for the day shift to do. But I mean, if they call it, you know, 7 8 9:00 in the morning, we, you know, >> Well, I guess maybe in my mind, the execution should be that you note the car was there, come back 48 hours, and
that's the assumption of guilty because you proved it then. Well, that that >> you're assuming the caller is always right and we're always wrong. >> Well, it's not that we're assuming that if one's right or wrong, it's we're just doing our due diligence and making sure that notification is made. So, if we just drop a note on there and then you
don't see it or you move the car but don't take the note off, we don't want to do that. We want to make sure that we're not towing or ticketing residents cars without making sure we find them. >> Well, can we look at the ordinance? >> If I can, Mr. May. Go ahead.
agree that like it's problematic that it's complaint driven. So I completely agree with that. So let's just let's just face fact >> the neighbor sort of speaking to their neighbor but through the police. Yeah. So when the police come out, if the if the people that have been accused say,
"No, I just parked there this morning or like what, you know, like I think it's incumbent on the police to communicate that back to the original person that complained and and just say, but if it's there for 48 hours from now on, then then the police will do something and that's fair to the accuses and the
accuser and and all that." So, but as soon as CO happened, I remember thinking and remember saying to our former chief police, the 48 hour it's something's got to give because it doesn't make sense anymore. The entire landscape of work had changed and people work from home and and um it's it's going to become
problematic. >> I mean, we do not have a driveway. >> Yeah. So for us to go on a vacation and have to worry that we have to move our car at least before, you know, have someone move our car in case you call the police and they'll >> Yeah. If you ever do go on vacation, you
can call let us know and we will note that there if any we just we just have it noted. No problem. >> And and this is not the first time that this has come up because I've had someone who's come to me and um we had this discussion. You know, many of us will, you know, leave leave our cars,
you know, on the street for a few days at a time and then we move them, you know. So, is there a an interest maybe in changing it from 48 hours to a little bit longer than that? >> Well, there's so many questions here. One is, you know, one of enforcement,
one is how do you legislate it? No matter what you change it to, you know, you gota have more consistent enforcement perhaps. But if you wouldn't mind leaving one of your names with a contact number, what I'll try to do is get uh Captain Brownie and Chief Arnold to sit down with us. Maybe by conference
call, you could come into the office, but we'll just talk through how can we all agree on a maybe a more consistent approach for enforcement. >> Sure. >> Yeah, that would be we would appreciate. >> I mean, it was only one time that this only occurred one time. We just got one because of the construction on fifth
park in front of our house. Confronted the guy in a different place. Don't park in front of my house. That was his reply. >> And it was less than 24 hours. >> But if somebody if if your car is like parked in front of your own house, it's rare that it'll it'll be a reoccurring
problem unless there is some sort of neighborhood. >> But the point is we you never know. Someone could be annoyed or someone could, you know, >> I think I think the council agrees with you. So if you leave us a contact information, we'll we'll invite you to
just email me. So I just email. >> Okay, perfect. >> Once is enough. >> Thank you. >> No, thank you. It's a very very valid concern. >> Any other comments or questions? Anyone left on Zoom?
>> Wow. >> All right. I see I see no other hands left and I've lost my agenda but I believe >> we have we have no executive session so I will make a motion to close the meeting
battery there's no prop >> I know the battery >> time change or >> yeah no I had a dead battery so I fig no time is better than the wrong time >> we have a second >> oh second thank you and all in favor I yes >> meeting is adjourned thank you in the