##VIDEO ID:VGN4E6Glvjg## d really [Music] C how you doing how's everything [Music] sit yeah on my chair Def you see [Music] the no great okay [Music] found aot [Music] yes okay so I don't oh my goodness I still have those too lock excise feel was that well they all right that sounds good feel better to the flag of the United States of America to the for it stands na indivisible liy and justice for all I wish to announce that the 48 hour notice as required under the open public meetings Act was emailed to the Asbury Park Press the co-star and the new co-star on December the 7th of 2023 that a copy has been placed on the bulletin board in the burough office and that a copy has been filed with the municipal clerk as as a courtesy to the public this meeting may be attended via Zoom if for any reason the zoom portion of this meeting fails or is disconnected the inperson meeting will continue and action can and will be taken providing there is an inperson Quorum Mr Noble here Mr koszi here M Mahoney here Mr Weber here mayor Fox here okay good evening everybody uh welcome we've got uh a number of Bradley Beach's finest here so uh we welcome you all here right uh i' always start with my emphasizing a couple of points here uh we often disagree uh that helps us think through problems from a different perspective our voices should be constructive we all want a brighter Bradly Beach and ask you join us in this journey I'll ask everybody to gauge their tone roal neighbors uh let's make Civility and decency and underpinning of our discussions tonight so we have a big night tonight uh we have a uh swearing in of one of our officers uh also uh this is our last schedule meeting here although we we may have to have another to cover some minor pieces if not minor but a few pieces of business um we do have resolution to uh a resolution to continue path on 319 Marine which is good uh additionally we have some key projects that we've received funding from a county state and federal perspective that we want to move forward to the next steps on uh we have a lot of resolutions 20 plus uh res resolutions to address so we have a busy night so we will get to it uh we'll start with uh presentations and bids and an oath the oath of office for police officer Daniel cow uh Chief Arnold and his leadership team have completed the search process for uh last officer on the force to fill out the force completely we now will now be fully staffed uh we're fortunate um to land on a current m of the team uh we will now have have a full compliment which is always desirable uh minimizes overtime and kind of stress on the system uh I'll let uh the chief articulate a few points before we proceed so Chief do you like to make a couple points uh good evening everyone first and foremost I'd like to thank the mayor and the council for making this happen and continuing to help move us forward on behalf of the Bradley Beast police department and all its members I would like to congratulate Daniel CR I'm becoming our newest full-time police officer a little bit about Dan Dan grew up in Tom's River he went to high school at Tom's River North where he played football then he went on to Delaware Valley University where he earned his bachelor's degree and he was a four-year Letterman in football um Daniel came to us in 2022 as a class one officer then became a class two officer this past year and obviously he was selected our as our newest police officer right now uh on a personal note Dan I'd like to say tonight is a night you'll remember for the rest of your life you may not realize it right now but this is probably one of the greatest moments in your law enforcement career a moment all people trying to strive to become a police officer look forward to so take it from me this career goes by very fast so take it all in enjoy the night enjoy your family your friends celebrating it I wish you you all the luck in the world but it does go by quick so just enjoy everyone of congratulations thank you want to hold the Bible my dad great okay let's get this orchestrated I'm going to stand over here and and think that works okay so you ready okay state of New Jersey County of mmed just repeat after me I Daniel Crow I Daniel Crow do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constit constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey that I will that I will bear true faith and allegiance that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same to the same say and to the governments established and to the governments established in the United States and in this state in the United States and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people that I will Faithfully that I will faithfully and partially and partially and justly perform and justly perform all the duties all the duties of a police probationary officer of a police probationary officer for the burrow of Bradley Beach for the burrow of Bradley Beach according to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability so help me God so help me you're [Applause] in the call First a here all right we're going to get a couple pictures that's okay shake hands with the want just stand up for one more minute a picture you guys want to come down for a picture also oh I'd love that thank you I'm like the tallest wait wait wait more for the police department perfect than okay thank you conratulations conrat you want to say something it's my turn it's his turn uh I just want to thank everyone for coming tonight thank the mayor mayor Fox the couns for this opportunity this isn't a uh regular job you have to put some in this position who have a believe has a lot of responsibility a lot of Integrity so thankful for that thankful for chief Arnold uh Captain Browning the entire Administration and really everyone in the department dispatches parttime since I've been here as a class one you've all helped me get to this position it's been a goal of mine for a long time i' like to thank my father my friends in the back for coming you've all pushed me towards my goals and never told me that I wasn't going to achieve something thank you for that so thank you all for coming [Music] um oh yeah we should release we should release everybody you're all welcome to stay for the meeting if you like but [Music] good think yeah because then once you get it right a lot yeah we have a couple proclamations that we're going to do right now that are not on the agenda so it's a little surprise bonus for you all so um without further Ado I'd like to introduce Erica okay hello so I have a couple of proclamations here and see I'm also going to play Santa Claus I apologize I forgot my L hat tonight so Kristen this is for you on behalf of myself and the mayor and and councel okay let me read your Proclamation open how's that okay so this is a proclamation uh recognizing councilwoman Christin Mahoney whereas Kristen Mahoney has Faithfully served her fellow citizens as a councilwoman from October 11th of 2023 to present and whereas Miss Gooney has performed her own of her own valtion many Endeavors to benefit her community and has been active volunteer on boards and committees dedicated to the betterment of life for the residents of the burough whereas Miss Mahoney has also given willingly and she has contributed selflessly to the community for many of her fellow citizens whereas Miss Mahoney will retire from her position as coun woman on December the 31st of 2024 now therefore be it resolved if the mayor and councel and employees of the burrow of Bradley Beach we wish to ex extend our appreciation for Miss Mahoney's services and to the burrow and wish her well in all her future endeavors would like before you give us a speech I just want to say uh as a council representative representing the mayor I hope and the rest of the council I hope um Kristen has been a wonderful colleague most of you may remember that we kind of pulled her into duty she she didn't go through a broad process I don't think you gave it a lot of thought necessarily coming into it at least until we asked you um and I could not have asked for a better Council colleague she cares about Bradley Beach she cares about every resident in this town and she worked unbelievably hard and very passionately to make Bradley Beach better so Kristen thank you very much for it's just it's been an honor and a pleasure and uh you know if I could keep doing it I would but I have to feed myself and my dog so but but thank you and I hope to stay in service in some way shape or form if you will have me so thank you thank you GI open GI that was really F guys and unnecessary here would you mind be honored here would you mind I heard pink was your color oh that is just lovely that is that is good thank you that is good thank you all thank [Music] myg it's have another toy with yes okay we have one more PL Proclamation yes excuse me step out my elf duties here okay so we have a proclamation for our mayor Larry Fox didn't think you were going to get away that easy you I almost didn't come tonight okay Proclamation recognizing mayor Larry Fox whereas mayor Larry fox has served the burough of fredley beach for four years mayor fox has given generously of his time and effort as the mayor with diligence and Effectiveness has made a constructive contribution to his associates and to the community whereas mayor fox has also served his served in his capacity as mayor on boards and committees dedicated to the betterment of life for the resident of the burough mayor fox has performed his duties as mayor with character dignity and he will be missed both professionally and as a as a friend whereas his service to the burrow has been given willingly and he has contributed immeasurably to the success of community Endeavor Endeavors for many of his fellow citizens whereas mayor Larry Fox will retire from his position as mayor on December the 31st of 2024 now therefore be it resolved Council burough employees and volunteers of the burough of redley beach wish to ex extend their appreciation for mayor Fox for his contributions and service to his community and this is presented to you from the council and behalf on the Council of myself we wish you the best of luck and the best of health to you and and your family and we do have one more surprise for you um well mayor I wasn't just getting my eyebrows done you know I didn't put it together but now very works for the county state the state yeah I'm here on behalf of the state oh you're of the state so I'm here on behalf of Senator goal and assemblywoman Don and Peter Paul who represent you in the New Jersey state legislature uh with a resolution a joint resolution from the three of them um and before I read it I just want to acknowledge uh mayor Fox's um dedication to this community a couple of years ago we went through redistricting and the mayor actually uh testified as to all the needs of Bradley Beach to ensure that they were getting the best representation possible um and also making sure that the state was acknowledging you know that Bradley isn't just a short town but it is so much more and to make sure that the needs are met in the most effective way um so this is a joint resolution by Senator gopal and assembly woman donin and Peter Paul whereas The Honorable Larry Fox a highly esteemed member of his Garden State Community is being recognized as he concludes an exemplary ten tenure as mayor of the burough Bradley Beach on December 31st 2024 whereas the Senate and general assembly of the state of New Jersey are pleased to commend Larry Fox and note his immeasurable contributions in the furtherance of a robust and prosperous burough for all retired from a distinguished position with Johnson and Johnson Larry Fox is called Bradley Beach home for more than 17 years and a c with energy and commitment as his mayor since 2021 by repeatedly applying his knowledge and experience to the benefit of his fellow residents Larry Fox's earn the abiding respect and admiration of all who've known his many accomplishments through his inspired and effective governance Larry Fox's exhibited an uncommon measure of public spess and in doing so has established the standard of Excellence toward which others might strive the strength and prosperity of city of New Jersey depend in great measure upon industrial citizens exempli exemplified by Larry Fox who utilize their unique skills and talents to enhance our cities towns and Burrows and improve the quality of life for our neighbors it's altogether fitting and right for the members of the legislature to pause in their deliberations to acknowledge Larry Fox as an individual of remarkable character and outstanding fortitude fortitude be it resolved by the Senate and general assembly of the state of New Jersey this legislature hereby sales Larry Fox paying tribute to the Sterling record of public service and extends his sincere best wishes for happiness of all the days of his life this is a dually authenticated copy of a resolution signed by the Senate President and the speaker and attested to by the assembly clerk um transmitted to The Honorable Larry well this was a surprise uh I'll just I'll be brief because I know these meetings go long sometimes uh I'd like to thank everybody I'd like to thank you all it's very nice uh it was unexpected and very nice uh um you you finish kind of phases of things and you you reflect sometime after and try to put perspective on things I can just say my main uh thanks here is to the people that work here uh every day the police Public Works Recreation uh our professionals they they just help move the town forward and it is about how do we provide service and how do we make progress and I think we've done some of that not without its acrimony every now and again but um I think we've made some good strides and I think we're pleased to continue on that path particularly working with uh County state federal um resources that can help us move forward so I very much appreciate um the recognition again very a surprise and uh thank you all thanks I lost my what happened on my phone guys want to get ready think I have a lot of that chance so I'm like okay we got to organize you've done this before and then hold on okay I was going to come for you next you really you're eight years I better know how to do this right you got it I got it okay here we go ching okay than okay thank you put this in here okay okay okay back to business here uh first we have the um we don't have any workshops tonight so we have uh the approval of minutes I'll make a motion to approve the November 7th 2024 Council business meeting minutes have second second Mr NOA yes Mr gubitosi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes also make a motion to approve the November 7th 2024 executive session meeting minutes so I have a second to that second Mr Noble yes Mr guozi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes uh we now have public comments or questions pertaining to the 12 11 agenda those agenda items only uh 5 minute limit single instance are there any questions on the agenda yes I2 Avenue Beach I have some questions regarding bills list um I notice on the very first cover page uh there is a an entry for US Bank for $32,400 is that a generic bank is that a bank or can anybody please explain this deposit it's not a deposit it's actually these are expenditures these are either manual checks or wires it was a deposit though wasn't it I don't think so because if you add the 68 the five or six numbers here come up to mil8 it says here's manual checks and wires US Bank $320 it's a check that we sent out it's not I apologize okay that's fine okay thank you for the clarification um um on page one i notic c um they're getting bills they submitted bills for 2023 to um 2024 I think it was from I'm sorry I noticed it was built from February of 20 uh 23 to uh November of 24 and I'm just surprised that we' being build for 2023 in this calendar year well there's a couple things on that one one is we actually if there are if we know that we're going to spend money if we spent money in 23 but haven't haven't physically paid it we actually hold that money um in our budget we we call it a was it incumbrance incumbrance thank you I don't know why that terms so we hold that money in a reserve so we we knew that we were going to spend that money we probably knew we were going to spend that money this year okay and I can add that that resolution is on the agenda for tonight says probably has something to do with wildwife okay and I think it's important for the taxpayers to know that according to my calculations that uh CME had um has bu us 47,2 21 for the year for their services um page four mutet mutet singles for bags this it was for $1,372 I was appalled at the shipping charge $239.95 I don't know knew but if I was charged that much for shipping I would have find another way of getting the merchandise that sounds outrageous I think they're they're heavy like they're like books I know it's plastic bags but there's thousands of thousand I mean I hope this is really 10, bags it's probably a Year's worth yeah I just I just found that startling that's all okay I'll move on uh Prime Point Contracting and time clocks and then I noticed that they have a um their their bill for this month was 9,794 31 and I'm just curious do we use any of their data for U budgeting or um auditing I'm I well Prime points are uh I'm sorry it's our p okay uh one other thing is T on page nine t t and M Associates uh they it was described as Lorraine Avenue demo special project uh could anybody please explain to me what the set special project is well the special project is the demolition bid specification foring the building so there's a big there's a document I don't it's 20 or 30 pages it's a big document um that we wanted to ensure we had every bit of the appropriate regulatory stuff testing stuff into the bid document so uh we asked them to assist us in developing that um could you just uh just refresh my mind my memory how much does it B have to be uh what's the limit wait I me how what is the amount of money that a bid has to be before it gets councel approval uh $4,000 okay so this was $50 sh okay uh I noticed that Edmond has 12,2 Fu Edmond's uh bill for the month was $1,522 111 and I'm just is that Al do we use that in our budget and our audits that's the life blood that's our whole financial system okay all right and I noticed on page 19 Mr Bernstein uh received two payments this month uh one for $3,540 and the other one was $25 $2,550 and the description was employment Council Oprah Council and new F CW 152 and I my calculation show that the total for Mr Burnstein for the 2024 year was 53,723 thank you thank you any other question Jess um Beth Kepler 504 Central Avenue this is in response to um the resolutions on the agenda 186 to 190 and my reason for why I would ask the council not to um vote in favor of them passing um I'm serving the borrow of GRA Beach specifically May Larry Fox with my fourth notice of for claim on behalf of myself and the residents of Bradley Beach that wish to enjoin me as the lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit I'll explain the events giving rise to the potential claim I'm serving the burrow of Bradley Beach and mayor Fox personally with this notice of Tor claim on behalf of myself and every taxpayer and or homeowner in the burrow of Bradley Beach who was harmed injured and disenfranchised by the intentional actions and inactions of Mayor Larry fox in his want in violation of but not limited to 40a colon 5-4 of New Jersey revised statutes as well as New Jersey administrative codes njac 50 col 30-6 50- 31- 6.1 and 50 col 30-8 point2 under the local Finance board and Deputy Department of Community Affairs rules for governing um annual audit this claim arises from my allegation that there has been gross mismanagement and invesment of tax dollars by the current Burrows Administration also known as the fox Administration this misconduct has caused significant financial and personal harm to me personally and other residents and homeowners I allege that the borrow of Bradley Beach has engaged in the mismanagement and embezzlement of taxpayer funds causing harm to the shareholders stakeholders the homeowners this includes but is not limited to improper allocation of resources unauthorized expenditures and other potential fraudulent activities such actions have directly and indirectly resulted in financial losses and a decline in public services and infrastructure maintenance the incidence of Miss I'll skip that word the burrow of Bradley Beach County of M state of New Jersey as of Wednesday December 11th has not provided the public with the complete 2023 audit as is required by state law therefore the buau of Bradley Beach under the leadership of Mayor Larry Fox and his administration are in direct violation of section 40a colon 4-5 of the New Jersey revised statutes this section mandates that the governing body of every local unit must cause an actual annual audit of it BS accounts and financial transactions to be made and completed within 6 months after the close of its fiscal year the audit must be made available to the public in the burough of Bradley Beach New Jersey the requirements for corrective action plans are governed by the New Jersey administrative code njac 5 col 30-6 according to these regulations each audit finding must be addressed with a cap within 30 60 days of the audit report being filed the cap must include a ref refence number assigned by the auditor the audit findings and the contact person responsible for the corrective action the plan corrective action and the anticipated completion date combining caps from different audit years is not allowed as each cap is meant to address specific findings from the corresponding audit year skipping a cap for one year and combining it with the next year's cap would not comply with these regulations njac 5 30-6 pertains to the local Finance board's requirements for annual audits of local units such as municipalities and counties in New Jersey during the October 23rd 2024 council meeting mayor Fox was asked by Resident taxpayer Mr Cohen where is the 2022 bad audit correction action plan to which mayor Fox replied I think he's going to combine that with 2023 Mr Cohen then asks did you think or do you think or do you know mayor fox answers yes he's going to do that Mr Cohen then says he's going going to well they're two separate documents okay um well when will we receive the 2023 audit that was due on July 1st 2024 we were told by you it would be in the October time frame well we're kind of in the October time frame now how are we doing mayor Fox responds it's in process I know the last time we spoke to Mr alawa the auditor he had 190 pages of it done it's in process I don't know exactly his deliver date I can find that out Mr Cohen replies but it's not the October time frame we were PR previously told mayor Fox responds well today is October 23rd Mr Cohen retorts so the next eight days you got this covered mayor fox answers oh I'll have to check with Mr olawa to which Mr Cohen says okay great now we stand here on December 11th 2024 where is our audit there it's in process still it's not done is it done and you're withholding it like you do other things is it completed is it compl no you need to answer that question process that's answer is it done are you in possession of it yes or no it's in process so it's not done that would be in process yeah and why is it not done what what is holding it up it's if you're six months late is it that you don't want to face the public you want to slip out the back door let me tell you these these council members got a lot of class because I I threw up here my mouth a little bit well you got like this Proclamation cuz it's a joke just like you you are a joke you did not deserve that any other questions yes question Lauren edbert 404 and a half Bley Avenue um questions and comments on the agenda yes um what I'm looking at here um on the agenda and I apologize I not actually read the resolutions this time around so um speaking a little off the cup but I'm looking at several several awards for projects with CME engineers and for projects that have come up that have been discussed um it was certainly my hope that decisions on these projects would be made after we had the 2023 audit and when we have a new mayor and councel there's been a lot of doubts brought up by residents in terms of what's been needed in terms of some of the charges and um I also when I see and I'm sure they're a very fun company but I see CME C C CME CME and it just doesn't well CME is our burrow engineer M they are assigned to we we appoint them we appointed them for three years this is their second of three years so all the projects that kind of call them the general projects that are engineering related or need an engineering component a lot of for instance a lot of these grants require engineering specific engineering inputs so yeah in Su CME because they are a bur engineer we could have something in a lake like cers they they're working on the uh Flume for us uh you could have a couple of other engineering types but they are our general Engineers they are assign we appoint them and we have a budget for them and we utilize them and they do J none of these projects would have been appropriate for competitive at all ultimately they will be um when the when the work being done around construction uh the other elements it will be up up for B yeah but no nothing in terms of proposals perspectives plans none of that should be open to well typically compe I probably should I probably should have um before the meeting mentioned that uh we do have CME here we have Ben Matt La C's president Greg I always SC your last name GRE bless bless you thank you um so you know they've worked for us now for two years and I think done a very effective job for us so uh that's why you see CME um build I mean that's appropriate thank you mayor thank you mayor and again I um I would be more comfortable if major projects happened after the audits if we knew um what our finances look like with more certainty and also um as I said there's been a great deal of questioning um just a lack of confidence and I share some of that lack of confidence um because of important matters in this town that I felt were not aired out with the kind of public notice and and the real detailed examination of pro practical solutions that I would have liked so any I I would feel much more comfortable with construction Community expense those kind of decisions happening in January we're almost there thank you thank you uh was there somebody else yet 26 friendley um for anyone who values Bradley Beach history this is a sad time the president of the Historical Society Paulin has been asking for five years to be included in talks about future of the church for the most part despite being promised to seat at the table he's been pretty much ignored at this point we've accepted that in the near future this historical gem will be breed 14 months ago mayor Fox you asked the Historical Society if you could attend one of our meetings I was there you asked us if we like any artifacts from the church Paul named many items and once again asked to be part of any discussions moving forward at this point he has still not been contacted even though neighbors of the church have seen items being removed I certainly hope these items as well as others in the church are not sold to anyone before fall the other members of the historical society and residents are given a chance to either take them for our historical archives or purchase them for our homes if we can't have the church the least you can do is preserve as much as possible on the inside thank you any other questions yeah uh Thomas Goan 612 Third Avenue um I had a question about the uh the transfers I'm a little puzzled about how your bookkeeping works here um resolution 2024-25 um you're transferring uh 45,000 from Appropriations to other categories and the categories I find a little bit odd one of them is uh social security for 20,000 which would indicate to me that you didn't budget Social Security properly uh when the budget was done the mayor's budget was done but also what I'm really concerned about is that we were told during the budget process that um we had money set aside for the Union contract for DPW and dispatchers but the money was hidden and we didn't know where it was so my concern is that who doesn't know where it was that's what you told us no no who doesn't know where it is you didn't tell us you said it's in the budget but we're not going to tell you for negotiation price okay so we don't know where it is like anything else with you we don't have data okay no no I'm going to continue please and I'd like to know if this 45,000 is part of the money for the union no it's not it's not so where is the Mone money for the union it's in different line it in the budget which so you over appropriated other line items to hide the money from the union is that what you're telling me it's reserved in a couple of spots yes but we don't know where it is you're not going to tell us okay um the council doesn't know either pardon the council doesn't know where it is either wow that's right you just legislate you don't do any Administration I get that um and then on this uh contract for resolution 2024 d190 uh to to do the sewer pump station um you know the grant is $50,000 um and this is $69,000 proposal so why don't we just tell CME we'd like the proposal to be 49,500 in case we go over why are we spending 19,000 more we're not going to spend any more than 50 oh you're not okay um also I find the number for design phase services to be ridiculously high um we had an architect from the town design it and put it on Facebook I don't understand why we we're spending 36,000 uh I'm sorry 3 36,200 to do that it it's way too high for that phase so I would definitely question that it's a 900t building um the uh the last question I had was about you setting the schedule for the year um at the end of the schedule uh we're going to go according to this schedule 40 days without a meeting we got a lot of work to do here in 2025 I don't think you can go 40 days without a meeting so between November 6 and December 16th is 40 days um I don't see any reason why you don't schedule a second November meeting on November 18th um in between so that would be my recommendation because I don't don't really think that's proper but I do want to thank you for the Tuesday meetings uh it's much easier to fit the schedule so I can make sure I'm here thank youse yes Paul PA CH 41 half l r Avenue uh obviously my comments are about 2024 d216 and I urge the council not to authorize the resolution on the disposition of the Articles from 319 rain why um because this resolution comes as a bit of a surprise to say the least um not only did we have discussions a year ago about certain items that the IAL Society wish to retain for its Collections and for the people of Bradley Beach to remember the rich history of this building um we had further discussions in September of this year when I was informed that one of the stained glass windows was being U removed and I called you up in September um you explained to me at that time that it was one of the windows that was promised to the camp meeting Association be P Stokes window and I asked you at that time who was going to be in charge of the uh fate of all the historical items that we had listed um I think originally there was something like 44 and I know that I called you up this year and added at least one which was the Cornerstone of the of the building um anyway at that time I asked you who was in charge and you said you didn't know and I asked you if you would please keep me in the loop I I didn't know yes that's exactly you said that it would either be the uh by president's uh the ultimate recipient yeah we were working on that not the recipient the person I asked who was going to be in charge of the of the of of monitoring this whole process and you said it would either be them or some firm in Philadelphia and I ask you to inform me when that decision was made so that I could have some input on that because basically I don't think we have a a really complete knowledge of that list um I see in this resolution that there are prices given um this is something that should have been discussed in public or at least with the council or with me as a member of the historical society and none of the items that I mentioned to you over a year ago are on this list this is very worrisome I think that uh we have to clarify the situation and I I I I urge the council not to authorize this list or the distribution of any of the items it's my understanding that some of the items have already been removed the only item that been removed is the Ocean Grove piece that's not what I've heard I telling you what is I I well you you may not be correct mayor Fox because there have been Witnesses who've seen objects being taken out of the church over the last week and a half um I urge you if there have been any items removed that they'd be returned and retained until Champion there are no items out of the church except for the Ocean Grove piece all those items are there so the people who have been speaking to me are liars I don't know who you're speaking to but I'm telling you that that's the case uh anyway um whatever the case be it's important that this town not lose these rich historical artifacts these assets of the Town um it's also important that there be a discussion as to a lot of the items that were not indicated originally a year over a year ago that might be um items that uh residents of this town wish to purchase besides the Cornerstone what do you give me an example what you're talking about what am I talking about I said besides the Cornerstone I know I heard that we we listed quite a few things over a year ago just give me an example yeah sure the three stained glass windows behind the altar between the Altar and the clothing room um a straight Pew um located in the uh the side uh Sanctuary Chapel whatever it is the um there was a bookcase in the in the basement uh there was a table there there was a long list of items that I thought we were going to have further discussions on over the last year and of course this has never happened um and also I mean you're completely uh ignoring a huge number of important and valuable items in that building that may not be of historical value but they're certainly of architectural salvage value would think that somebody should be really cataloging that and indicating to the town um how they will process that you've always told us that you believe in in the proper process you said that the beginning of your comments tonight that this resolution was a step forward in the path on 319 the Reign I I don't see it as a step forward I see it as as something which is going to just further complicate things because it is not taken into account uh a proper disposition of the artifacts and valuable architectural assets of that building thank you question yes sh greenl 414 mon Avenue um I appreciate that things are moving forward 199 um however um looking at resolution 2024 216 um I have a number of questions about the process um so looking at this resolution the third paragraph down whereas Rose Okana Meyer presented her appraisal findings regarding the artifacts um and this is referenced at a council meeting held on September 13th 2023 um I recall a general discussion um about the artifacts but not specific items and specific values at that time but what we said at that meeting was uh there were approximately 40 to 44 items uh we had an inventory of those we had pictures of those uh she had itemized those the approximate value that I stated in that meeting was less than $20,000 that's what I said AG the actual number because there were a couple items that were still outstanding from a quotation perspective her I want to somewhere in the neighborhood of 12 to $113,000 but she was still awaiting one or two other quotations um so that's where we were uh she did a fairly comprehensive review of those items we didn't since that time you mean at that time before that meeting she went through the inventory those we didn't give her those 40 items she went through the church and if you recall I don't know if you were at that meeting or not but her credentials uh between NYU and a couple other places around art history and uh architectural stuff were pretty impec no I I was at that meeting it was a lengthy discussion I remember we were kind of talking more top level about the artifacts we weren't speaking specifically and I think the objective of that meeting the objective of this past year and the objective of this resolution is the objective was we don't want to go through a demolition of this building and not retain those artifacts by and large we've been able to find a home for those artifacts I think we couldn't have found a better home for those artifacts a public museum that's being renovated as we speak the Church of the presidents they will fit out all of the staining glass the pews which I think there will be some leftover pews that we can uh dispose of with in town um and the org so Bradley Beach will get full credit for for that at that Museum opening uh that renovation is is taking place right now so I think the process that Rose went through she did talk to a number of houses you know in online auctions Etc she also worked closely with the Church of the presidents which when she came back with a final recommendation and said you believe this is the best way to go I I think it is because yeah I have no no issue in terms of the Church of the seven presidents um because I think it's a very you know um important his start um Museum um so just I'm I'm really just talking about process and not where this is going but just looking at this resolution um it the following paragraph that this individual um Rose o Conor uh solicited no fewer than six qualified buyers or recipients and identif qualified buyers as listed below the only um the only two listings are the museum in Long Branch and um antiqu shop those are the ones that are going to actually take those out right so I'm just there hasn't been real transparency about the um the six uh potential buyers this provide that I mean well I mean the resolution references it so I'm just and then further um the qpa had uh referenced um um that the estimated uh fair value of the art artifacts is below the bid threshold thereby not requiring a public auction so what is the bid threshold for for this I don't know I don't know what the details of that yeah I mean I'm just wondering why this this process well again I I think you talk about process here you have a a church with artifacts at it took us months to get to somebody who we believe really could deliver in a church that it's not a church that you're just going to walk through and walk around and you know it's it's it's not in good shape so I empathize with your point of process but I don't know if we could have had a much better process than say we relied somebody a professional with credentials we came in last September stated what we were the intent she went off got that done and got us a good result right well if I can just if I can get a moment or two back um so yes I I understand that and I don't really know what the value of these artifacts are or what the street value is well if it's in the resolution well I see I see all of the items listed it's very it's very close to what she originally estimated we actually we did a little bit better well I mean it it appears that we did better when you look through this list um it look it appears very formulaic to me um and I'm I'm just you know how did we come up to those those dollar figures um relative the appraised value um you know I I just I just feel that the process was kind of lacking in specificity um cataloged items should be better referen instead of stained glass large wall L um you know all of these items really should be very specifically cataloged well they were cataloged and we have pictures and a page catalog of those items Mr you right so guess so well he's talking in my ear but what and he's saying what I wanted to ask which was why this wasn't um a real bid process where residents the public would have an opportunity at some of these if you look at some of the prices of some of these items some of them are flea market prices honestly when you look at um I mean if you just break it down the uh um the uh the pews 30 pews for $1,000 right if yeah well I think Miss OK Conor she didn't say it at the meeting she she she said it a few times over a thousand churches have closed in the last year in the US so the market price for a lot of this these items like organs you basically donate them and give them away and that's that was what was done with this organ I understand that and and how Red Barn Antiques is having items donated given to them where does Red Barn Antiques factor into this it's not something that's local it's not a local antique shop yeah it was it was a half a dozen items that they acquired a couple of uh kind of thrown kind of chairs I mean I guess my biggest question is why was this a more open process well it it was in the context of Rose o Conor going out to her network of people that procure the stuff that that's what it was yeah I mean I think that a more formal um like did process should have taken place um these are the Public's artifacts um and I appreciate that they're going to the seven president church I think that's a a very worthy location um but are we getting the most money for this is a question well according to the expert yes right but we also really close the opportunity we Clos the opportunity to the public and we certainly it appears by this resolution we're not even salvaging anything for the historical society which then it would stay in Bradley's hands so y okay than yes we have two more board Nancy meow Ocean Park condomini Association um I really didn't intend to speak on the agenda items you know we know the bill is Nest we know this is Nest we know that is a mest um but listening to what people said about the church and its contents and having been involved in evolition sales a lot of profit on it I don't understand why we can't just put the pews in here um I would be keeping something for the town some sort of History so um to me that's just like a really simple solution that um should be entertained we own them um you know we have numerous trucks including the $78,000 police truck you can transport from here deal as far as I'm concerned thank you yes good evening Linda pleasley I'm also concerned about this resolution 2024 216 um I hope you vote it down but anyway it's very insulting to the Historical Society in this town to be overlooked like that it's sad um also I was looking at our website we used to have videos of the church up there the 3D panoramic view it's gone I can't find it anymore is it taken down if you can't find it it may have been taken down well to put back up because we need to see exactly what's in there I was concerned was there any antique lighting which it's SN structure it might have had antique Lighting in there and it does have architectural value for a lot of the mold inside but as far as donating to redborn I mean they should have contact the Historical Society just give them the option to say yes or no and I think the Pres um the residents of this town should have been given the option to buy things if we wanted to I mean I don't know if anybody would buy a large St glass window but somebody might want to buy one of those small green ones and as far as things being removed they are already being removed I've walked past there and windows are now boarded up what's behind those boards now on the side not in the front the front front was done the summer the boards they happen no they were not there about a month ago let me answer your question go ahead the stained glass has been taken off of the wall but it's in the building how I'm telling you this well you didn't know anything was removed before and it was removed it was removed well it was Tak yes that well removed this is removed from the building versus taken down and being prepared to leave the building or two different things yes so we have workers in that building do doing work we have yes absolutely all right so I would like to see the book of all the artifacts and the pictures can I do that tomorrow because I think it should have been open to the public to view cuz maybe somebody would want to purchase something and maybe they would pay more than nothing you donated you know I think it was really wrong to do it that way I don't know what the process for public auctions but I think maybe this should have gone to that thank you very much thank you yes I2 I'm just I'm sorry you you're up you've already come up I can't ask I somebody's on the board yes uh don Greenberg Don all Don Greenberg 302 Park Place um um like to Echo some of the other people who have spoken about the artifacts I think it's unconscionable that the historical society was left out of this final conversation um and I urge the council to table this until Mr nanin and the Historical Society can go through and see if there's anything that they'd like to keep um I'd also like to urge the council to table all the CME resolutions until we get our 2023 audit um because you know if we don't know how much money we have to spend then why are we spending it um and in addition the last resolution for the building on the beach I mean $336,000 to design a few bathrooms you could build four bathrooms for that so I urge the council to table those resolutions until we have our 2023 audit and the new Administration uh takes charge and the same with the Line Avenue resolution for the artifacts thank you thank you and Debbie hains Miss hackins okay maybe she Beed herself again she she did have her hand up that's the cursor we change that please okay there's no other questions we'll go to the next agenda item which is ordinances there are no ordinances so we will not have any ordinances uh there are no ordinances uh move to Communications those Communications resolutions uh we have number it on the consent agenda I'll go through those quickly 2024 202 Bill list for December 11 2024 2024 203 approval the sh Athletic Club to conduct her annual polar varies on Sunday December 28 2024 Pon 2024 204 appointment of police captain Terry brownie effective October 2nd 2024 2024 205 appointment of police Lieutenant solar effective October 24th 2024 20246 Sergeant Gale effective October 2424 2024 207 appointment of probationary officer D effective November 22nd 2024 2024 208 authorizing appointment of special class to Law Enforcement Officers attending 59 class make a motion to approve the Mr no yes Mr G yes M money yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes okay um individual [Music] resolutions we'll start with 2024 209 authorizing transfer Appropriations in the fiscal 2024 budget make a motion to approve 20242 question yes uh I had asked to be a question about the transfer 17,000 burrow administrator salaries and wages I asked if this was for the administrator or the administration she didn't get back to me till later today she said Administration she didn't she didn't clarify what she meant she she answered all my questions at once and said you know all of these Appropriations are for you know things that were in the budget that weren't appropriated is that for the ad administor or for the administration Administration so should be Adra thank you any questions motion to approve 24 second Mr Noble yes Mr gzi my only comment is um as I voted for the 2024 budget without having a lot of information because we were just unable to receive information similarly I don't really have a background on these these changes I was working with uh councilwoman Mahoney to hopefully get answers and they came too late for us to even fully understand the nature of them that said end of the year we need to keep um we need to keep the the lights on and we need to vote in support of this particular resolution so I will vote Yes M Mahone U I won't be here next year for hoping for more um transparency in the budget and improving a budget where there are numbers PED in to pay for salaries and wages for a potential uh contract negotiation means that all numbers in a budget can be somewhat suspect in the interest of moving things along i' going to approve this I say yes Council Leber yes mayor yes 2024 210 approval Council business meeting a for25 a comment on that y um just for the record I did ask uh our clerk if we can remove the words tentative if necessary in August meeting and I just wanted um the rest of the world to know that we're going to strike those words who still may choose not to hold two meetings in in August but um we'll make that decision when we get closer to the date have a second second and we could always add more meetings as well um okay Mr Noble yes Mr GOI yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber I am so happy we're moving meetings back to Tuesday and it's great to have been consulted on the meetings V yes uh May yes 2024 211 approval of 2025 scaff agreement with the county make a motion to approve 20242 second Mr Noble yes Mr gboi yes M Mone yes Mr Weber yes mayor CL yes 2024 212 authorizing execution the contract with scar fire Corporation for 2025 fireworks display make a motion to approve 202 12 second Mr Noble yes Mr gboi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 2024 2113 authorizing onee lease extension to I have a question I just and what am I reading wrong it says Friday July 5th with a rain date of Sunday July 6 that that can't be can let me go grab one I have one right here we'll take care of that right now it's hard up here is the Monday I me Sunday go um so it should be Saturday July 5th with a rain date of Sunday license well do we meet it on Saturday or yeah no it is it is for the day after Okay so this should say Saturday yep does it say that the resolution no the the resolution says Friday July 5th okay Saturday I'll fix it sorry what what she said you should say Saturday July 5th with the rain Saturday rain date of Sunday July 6th so I question you're sure it's Saturday not Friday Friday do we want to do on Friday the 4th let me ask Michelle no no no it is the fth right no we Rocky was the um Friday versus Saturday it is it's not on the 4th because the 4th the price goes up yeah yeah we always do ours the day after the day got okay okay 2024 23 authorizing one year lease extension for 2 2025 certif okay uh Mr Noble yes Mr gbos my quick comment is that I hear nothing but wonderful things about this surf camp um residents uh regularly tell me how great it is when they have their kids or the grandkids participate and and this organization has reached out to the Council on one or two occasions in the past telling us how wonderful they think Bradley Beach is and you know what a wonderful partnership we had so I enthusiastically vote Yes Miss Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 2024 214 authorize a one- year lease extension agreement for 2025 while BS motion to approve 2024 214 second Mr Noble yes Mr guzi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 2024 216 authorizing dispos oh I'm sorry 2024 215 establishing an annual fee for the third year of the BR concession license agreement with the passion group DBA coal L LC for ATM machines for make motion to approve second Mr Noble yes Mr koszi yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 2024 216 authorizing disposition of burrow property located at 319 orue a motion to approve 2024 26 comments yes pleas um well we've heard a lot of the comments made by my residents already this evening um I have many concerns about this particular resolution to remove artifacts from 319 Lin the church um and in particular the council has really been kept largely in the dark on this there has been a just a spurt of activity over the past couple of weeks uh that you know we none of us saw this coming but um but just for the record I need to I need to make sure that it's captured in our minutes and for those here tonight or listening via Zoom you can hear a little bit of what the council's gone through uh number one there's been no collaboration with the Council on this as we were entering the Thanksgiving weekend actually Wednesday evening November 27th 3:39 p.m. the mayor notified the council that we and this is a quote we have had success in getting all artifacts salvaged and the actual removal will occur over the coming weeks if you get questions on activity at the site removal will be going on intermittently between now and year end and I'll advise when we are complete with that activity wow so he let us know the mayor let us know as we were leaving for Thanksgiving weekend activities that the site was going to have artifacts removed what and I also summarized in that note that we I'll continue Mr fine I'll cat you thank you um on May on Monday December 2nd which was the Monday immediately following the Thanksgiving weekend uh our Municipal attorney notified mayor Fox of a state statute governing the sale or disposition of bar assets which typically requires open bidding and a resolution by the governing body also that same day on Monday immediately following Thanksgiving weekend I sent an email to Mayor Fox attemp to make him aware that the removal of burough property without Council approval could result in the mayor himself being first being held personally liable for the value of the assets removed the Historic Society then reached out to me and other council members to State their objections to this to their disposal of artifacts that they believe should be preserved for the Bradley Beach Historical Museum they believe commitments made to them by the mayor are now being ignored the nature of the inventory value and pricing list does not appear to reflect competitive bidding required by Statute and therefore may not reflect the most beneficial pricing of of the value of the assets for the Burrows taxpayers finally on December 4th one week ago I asked the mayor number one to describe the disposition destination of artifacts already remove and to explain how the removal of artifacts already begun is legal by what standard and three to reference any prior resolutions approved by the council in this regard as we are asked to vote on this resolution tonight my questions have still not been answered the taxpayers of Bradley Beach deserve much greater transparency regarding the disposition of burrow assets and this Council deserves to um play a more active role in determining what the best process is for selling these assets as required by our resolution for these reasons I believe we should table this resolution until the entire council is given a chance to assure that the disposition of these assets is in the best interest of Bradley Beach and our taxpayers I'm not making that motion yet that is I'm offering that as a comment but that's what I believe we should be doing tonight and I would say I guess my comments relative to this are that we had last September an expert commit spent a good amount of time inventorying the items gave us a value an approximate value she updated that over a period of weeks she then painstakingly went to a number of auction houses she talked to people in the county uh and came up with this determination I met with her I want to say it was 3ek weeks ago maybe four weeks ago uh when she had a final agreement with the Church of the presidents to say that they would actually like to acquire the assets so this isn't something that we've been holding back for months and months and months this has been a process for month and month and months that M oconor has gone through she priced the stuff the items pretty reasonably um she has said to us and I will talk to Mr this I don't think the Church of the presidents will use all the pews U because there are a number of pews in that church it's about a third of the size of our church um the other item the bookcase in the basement that's that's right now sitting there it's not going anywhere uh because nobody's expressed an interest in it so those are two of the three items that Mr namp did mentioned the other was um staying L behind the altar that'd be a conversation i' have to have with um Rose to see if that's um doable which I think it is because she said there would be flexibility I think um we have come across a really great opportunity to think about the orgegon the pews and the stained glass of this church being put into a museum in Long Branch for the the Church of the presidents I think is a just a great opportunity uh I I don't know you know going through step by step by step step with rose oconor I didn't do that I didn't think it was necessary because she's the expert she was out there going after these people I can tell you I spent a tremendous amount of time in early 2023 trying to find somebody to take this on uh and I I really believe when you talk about I understand residents have an emotional TI this and I empathize with that but at the same time if you think about an auction process that church it would be quite honorous and who would who would be responsible for that U I think we can identify I if the Historical Society want but then the other question for the historical society is what we putting that stuff that's okay uh well no I'm not finished I thought you so I think I understand the emotion of the moment but the other thing that we should be cognizant of is I would I would hate to miss this opportunity if the churches presidents is expecting and my instruction to them is look we have demolition bids out um they're going to come in at the end of the year the new Council and mayor may decide to demo in January so you need to work to get this done so they have worked on the staying L they taken stained glass down and it's in the building ready to be transported the man do doing it that's an art and it's something he's specialized and knows how to do uh it's not an easy task so he's been working on that probably for the last two weeks since we met whatever it was three weeks ago so I think the right steps are being taken the update I gave you all before Thanksgiving was around the artifacts around the land use results and around the bid uh specification to try to make sure everybody was on track with here's the three big things going on relative to 19 the ring that was the purpose of that and to say it was a surprise it was wasn't something I was springing on anybody it was when I got to be able to update and say here's what we are I just want to make everybody aware so that was my attent if it was taken another way that's unfortunate well there's been a as you just described Mr Mayor fairly lengthy process that's been undertaken by you know folks who you've directed U Council was not aware um there is a statute that say for disposing of any assets I mean if you were talking about selling a police car you need to get council's approval usually when people know they need council's approval they inform the council they say hey we're at this stage we're at that stage this sound good we're we're on track we're on track okay we're complete Council I'm ready for your approval none of that happened so I appreci I'm not saying the disposition that you are now presenting to us isn't in fact the best disposition simply saying none of us know enough about it to to sit at least I'll say for myself to sit here tonight and vote in favor of this without having any understanding of what's transpired other than an email or two from you if we dispose of a police car a truck we bring it up we bring a resolution forward we approve a resolution we have a resolution on the table today to to transact this the details of the transaction are in the resolution again I I I don't know what your expectation is I mean if sitting down with rose o Conor I mean um this is somebody who I think has worked very diligently to get a result I don't know what we're going to gain from that um I'm concerned with the result in the context of if the Church of the presidents felt like this was on hold or there was a problem with it I'd hate like Heck if they said you know what we don't need to we'll just look elsewhere I'm not saying they would do that but um this is an opportunity that I would really hate to miss because when I think about the beauty of those artifacts and getting placed into a museum of that stature in Mammoth County uh that they are paying us for I would hate to miss that opportunity and around the context of quotes and dollars I can only say she's the expert anytime I talk to her she knows what she's talking about um and her point about a th churches closing and and a lot of Cirus out there that's a reality so uh I think she's worked diligently to get a great result for us so that's my comments I I have a question what was actually um contract of sale what was actually promised to the camp meeting Association was it one stained glass or was it more it was anything they wanted okay and do we have anything in writing saying that they're getting what they wanted we have a contract with the camp meeting Association when they transferred the ownership of the building to us in that contract it says we reserve the right if the building is disposed of demolition to retain any facts that we choose and have they chose them they chose a pain of glass about the size of that um board up there and it has the name of Elrod Stokes who is the founder of the camp meeting Association what they plan to do with that frame or that piece of stained glass is put it in their internal site with a with the light behind us so my expectation of them was they were going to come in and ask for items they ask for one do we have that in writing and is it is there's a contract yeah there's a is there a contract saying that this is all we want we took what we want and we don't want anything no they they just communicated to us okay I would suggest we get that in writing so we can we can retroactively write it up but they're basically done they're they they're done with us okay you have to have something in writing to say that they're done with us in addition you say the building might be torn down in January and uh went front the L use board on December 19th takes 30 days to read the resolution and then 45 after 45 days after that you have the official Perfection of the subdivision so you really can't do anything into the building until February 15 or after that well you first have to have the building I'm sorry no you can demo the building I don't believe you can do that until you officially perfect the subdivision that went in front of the land board well I don't think the subdivision has anything to do with the demo the subdivision has to do with the purchase of the property by developers or whoever purchased the property but you have to perfect it you have to first of all have it read as a resolution then you have 45 days of an appeal period so I would say I would think you wouldn't tear down the building during that time until you have it perfected and no one has appe peeled it that's a decision you all can make in February right but I'm saying I don't believe the building would be torn down in Janu as you had suggested well I I said well when I inferred if I said it's going to come down I doubt it will come down in January I think the bids are due on December 20th which will that'll be open next Friday and from that point there has to be a a dis the successful bidder a discussion with the successful bidder uh and the right date chosen so that has to occur and that would also go have to go in front of the council which we don't have a meeting until sometime in January the the bid the bid well I'm going to suggest we have a meeting on December 30th to approve that because that'll be 10 days after the uh bids commit next Friday which I've already suggested to you I understand that but I don't I don't feel that it's a a Time Essence because like I said the building's not going to get torn down till after it's perfected so why rush it because we have a once the bid bids are open the CL starts ticking on 60-day uh validity of the bid okay so we have 60 days okay thank you any other comments okay I'll make a motion to approve 2024 216 I have a second second Mr no no Mr gesi nope M Mone uh I just want to say we don't want credit for giving the art you know selling the artifacts to the Church of the seven presidents we want the opportunity to give the artifacts to the people to whom they belong currently which is the resident of Ry Beach I say no Mr Weber he can't vote me that I couldn't vot just stain Erica and I like answering for myself thank you um mayor Fox just trying to be this some heare Council um I vote Yes and I I view this is extremely unfortunate um I don't think uh you know that anything's been done incorrectly here uh the idea of uh this not moving forward to me is extremely egregious in that uh we have a unique opportunity to sequence this correctly get it done and we're going to be into a whole of conversation U and it's certainly going to put a question mark with the church at pres well is this why should we do anything right now um I think it's I think it's um extremely sad okay I think for the record someone should reach out to the Church of presidents and say the council felt blindsided the council was not kept informed they're still very interested in getting whatever artifacts they can to theur Church to preserve these historic artifacts but the council needs to understand what it is we're giving away and what is it we'd like to keep and what is it what price we're selling the artifacts where that we want to sell that's in the resolution and we don't understand it because it was just given to it a set of numbers a set of values and a set of prices and oh what a surprise every price paid is slightly above the value set any public auction which is required by Statute would have all kinds of results it would have an assessed value and a bid well below other bids twice as much this document mayor that you provided to us is is is very too consistent honestly for anyone to believe this was a competitive bid process so I would like to see a competitive bid process I would like to have opportunities to salvage all of these artifacts for posterity working very closely with the Church of the presidents this is not a vote against the presidents this is a vote against the council having to accept something that's been constructed without having any knowledge of what power is done so let that be part of the record Church of the presidents we' still have to work with them I will contact them tomorrow and have a discussion with that hopefully we can all you say people can't go in the building you understand that you can do an online auction as well like some ofies has it all the time they have other opinions M Conor stated that she's very familiar with that and again the nature of these particular items she went the path that she thought was the best path of acquiring a good buyer and a good home for these things which again I I think was achieved okay uh 2024 217 bid award for the approvement to 5th Avenue 2023 Municipal Aid budget make motion to approve 2024 27 second Mr Noble yes Mr gzi yes mrone yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 486 authorizing the award of proposal Prof servic for land survey Services C for recreation the 218 chapter 159 28 oh I'm sorry sorry sorry uh sence there got it um I'm sorry uh 2024 218 chapter 159 resolution make motion 48 second you're welcome Mr Noble yes Mr yes M Mone yes Mr Weber yes mayor fo yes 2024 186 award proposed for professional Engineering Services and land surveying Services of CM Associates for recreation center improvements previously Ted on 117 2024 yes I'd like to actually make a a number of comments related to the proposals we're going on that we that that have been proposed to us that we're going to vote on uh by CME because I took notes as many different residents make comments tonight asking the council to table these asking the council to um wait until an audit was completed so we have a better understanding of our finances um and and and just for the record I'd like everybody to know this has been a fairly very I would say protracted process um seei our municipal uh provided proposals some of these Dat Back to I think April and May to give you a sense and um and we scrutinized these to a pretty good degree to the point that uh our engineer Mr mlac uh revised a number of them and and you know edited them accordingly so um so so just so everyone knows a lot of review has gone into this a lot of discussion um the notion about uh completing a 2023 audit keep in mind when we get the results of the 23 2023 audit we still have 2024 Financial results that we don't have in front of us so knowing how close we were how not close we were in 2023 isn't all that relevant to us because there's a whole another year that has passed so what's probably more important is that we keep burrow progressing to the extent it makes sense um if if any given one of these projects don't make sense we should not approve them but to the extent these Mak sense for the buau that they help us secure grant funding that that has been uh you know awarded to the burough um that is important I think to all of the council certainly to myself in considering whether or not to move forward um some residents just asked us to delay the 25 just so we um you know just so maybe the the new Council at that point could work and oh and there were concerns raised about the magnitude of the dollars of some of these proposals um most of these proposals are actually uh I think reasonable dollars um they they range typically from $3,000 to $50,000 they represent an initial you know uh component of a much broader process uh it's doing a survey here or doing some preliminary evaluation there uh so so most of these you'll hear and see we're we're going to vote on our $3 to $50,000 type of Scopes um that might be uh the pr not extension for example um that that is roughly 4 4.2 million dollar or so Grant and maybe another 1.5 million or so burrow cost so could be a five or6 million project we're voting on a project uh that kind of kicks that study off that might ,000 so I just want everyone to know we're not voting tonight on the five or $6 million project we're voting on kicking off this a study and um and it was it was noted that we we should at least be considering competitive bids on some of these and I think the mayor responded to that I just want to Echo again um while we may not be competitively bidding these particular proposals these are again initial start off proposals we will be in a position if we decide to to do competitive bids on any or all of the larger projects that would follow this work so U I just want to give everyone overall sense of what we're talking about and and we can talk about the specific projects in a moment but overall um See's done a lot of work just putting this stuff together and we've really we've also tabled these proposals I think three meetings in a row uh and Mr Malak has revised the number of them at at my personal request make more um you know closer to what the council's looking at so again just so you know um A lot's gone in behind this and I think whichever way we vote project by project uh I I think we'll the burrow will still be in very good shape and I don't think we're putting anyone at risk I'm sorry I wanted to make that comment for all of the next six or so votes that we need to make y thank okay motion to uh approve this isation yes I second Mr Noble yes Mr gzi I'm saying for the record that uh we've already had U emphasis added in our original uh documentation for this uh that we must work on our pickle ball for resurfacing I've had I don't play pickle ball but had many residents reach out to me and demand that we pay a lot of good attention to this and we will and with that I go yes M um Miss Mahoney thank you for your comments mayor elect buosi um regarding the next resolutions and I vote Yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 2024 187 authorizing the award of proposal for professional Serv C for Main Street improvements phase Oney table 11 second 20247 we have discussion yeah okay so uh this particular proposal um again I appreciate the efforts in fact I probably driven our engineer Mr Malik a little crazy um challenging him to pull this together in a way that I I think makes um creates greater clarity for the for the council at this juncture and and again Ben I see you sitting there no reflection on your efforts you've you've done everything you can but I don't think uh we should consider approving this tonight I I'd like to think we would be better served if we table this because I think we need to have a better definition of scope i' I've shared a lot of that with you already uh I think we're I think we're close but just for the resident knowledge there was a committee in fact uh the mayor and Weber and our business administrator we're all on that committee so good work has already been done but the rest of the council still has broader questions about more details of the scope driving the cost um the need and the way raing of the street is done things like that were not covered by the committee U perhaps moving utilities underground were not covered by the committee we cover that okay well it wasn't shared with us well we what we said was in this million before that wasn't practical and we said let's prioritize and phase it hoping that we get the second phase of funding this year coming come February uh and we would address those in later fa that in later phases and we're not doing anything to the street which would deal with underground uh utilities so that was addressed um I guess my question is the detail design work is what is up but that's what we done maybe Ben you can explain that some more but I'm not sure I understand what more this this committee laid it out we laid out the approximate dollars and it's not that's not the end game it's just this is the way it looks now now let's go into a design phas it's roughly I'm going to round for the it's roughly 200,000 those mayor roughly how much of that 200,000 is tied to this analysis for grading of the streets uh I don't think any because the B you can come on down bet this a lot of this deals with the sidewalks and the street lightting in general of the side of up yeah so the the cost for our proposal is for the design preparation of the plants bid specifications coordination with do uh and there because this this project is is um has Federal funding uh the Federal Highway Authority um preparation of the does require require detailed grading of the sidewalks uh handicap ramps to make sure they're ADA Compliant um and and you know once we start touching the sidewalks because this is ferally funded the the project needs to be ADA Compliant um so there is a lot of of detailed work um that goes into it and it's you know it just it's not a a a a simple drawing to put together uh particularly with the level of uh scrutiny and review that it's going to receive from the state uh and from the Federal Highway Authority because not only is it Fally funded but uh Main Street is a a State Highway 71 right right and um the and you and I have discussed this for benefit of the rest of the folks listening um I'm not as convinced without understanding that you I would like your deliverable your work that that we spend $190,000 on I would like it to provide an overview of implications for moving the utilities underground I know at this point that's not part of the proposal I know the mayor just said we can do all this other work and not impact the sewers and so forth um I don't know how the mayor knows that I don't know how you know that I don't know how any of us know that without talking to to the utility companies um there may be opportunities that when they say um hey before you put street lights in we should be talking about tearing up this sidewalk and putting in um underground utilities I don't know but I think that should be a very preliminary phase of your analysis if you come back to the council and you say this is the best way to lay this out over a three or five year plan uh would you disagree it it's I I don't disagree um I think it's a basically a policy decision of the council um how you want to proceed with with you know attacking mainst Street um that if if the uh moving utilities underground is a a top priority uh then that's that's one of the first things that we'll do we we'll have to set up meetings with uh jcpnl who owns most of the utility polls and discuss that with them the logistics of doing that and what's required what they work they have to do uh in order to facilitate that what's the approximate cost per block is it about like a million bucks the the cost that we been quoted from JCP was a million dollars right was that before or after we CH there I I don't have that that answer I've asked JC pel for you know more of a breakdown of what what how that cost is uh and they they have said that and I think I've I've told you this before uh they've said that it it will cost them about 15 to $25,000 to go through that exercise to estimate it um so if if the burrow wants to do that they would have to pay JL to to do that and um as you know to this point uh there has not been a check written to jcpnl so they have not done that exercise yeah I'm I'm simply saying everyone tells me it's a million dollar we just confirmed it again no one can tell me whether that means after we tear up the street or before we tear up the street so it's a significant variable that I think should get pressed into the inflation but this Main Street Grant is for a million4 we tried to optimize in this million four is a safety issue and an ongoing kind of wear and tear issue was just the pavers we able to address that the uniformity of the lights we were able to address that the uniformity of the disposal garbage uh I understand this for some reason is a kind of a pet view of yours to under put the utilities underground but if we do it will be the expense of everything else um and that's what's disconcerting the other point is um on this Grant and on the prominade grant we got these grants last February March we are getting calls as to are you going to utilize these or not so um you need to moving on these things um these have been held up by the budget um for months six months and here we are at the end of the year uh trying to take the next bathing step which is design uh we're not spending a million for we're not spending 5 million for we're not spending uh you know in order to M money we're trying to take the next step so uh I hope we don't put ourselves at risk of losing this stuff because I I feel like we're getting to that point uh I got I got a call from um on the prominade uh last week saying they really want to get a clear answer this week how we move forward on us or not so yeah it's just like so many other things in the bur and I don't mean this initiation I mean historically we have paved streets and then three years later P them up to to replace sewers um I don't want us to until you tell us we can do it I don't want us to start personally doing anything until you added that one extra variable to the equation you I've talked about this then I I know I'm not putting you on the spot um but but now I will for one second um adding well we just ran out of time on basically but adding that element to your evaluation if we table this vote this evening how much does that throw us off are we talking about can you make a presentation early in in 2025 with the with the Revis scope so what revise scope what revise scope are you talking the revise scope I'm asking him to include you know that would would give us a sense for moving utilities underground where would that fit into a 5e plan so you know the to have the the initial meeting with with jcpnl um I can incorporate that into our current scope um I I couldn't tell you exactly what would be required of us until we actually have that meeting because a lot of like I said a lot of the work is to be done by Jason pel it's their infrastructure their their utility polls they would have to do their own design and um they would be most likely be the ones constructing it um so it I I couldn't tell you exactly right now what it would how it would impact this this proposal but for the purposes of just having that initial meeting and and discussion it doesn't impact us just to be clear it does not it does not impact uh our cost that that's in the proposal I personally I think we I don't think what I'm expecting of extra from CME I don't think it's a lot of of your time you know could be in your world 10,000 of fees or something but I don't think it's a lot but I think it's very important that we have a clear vision of what we want to do with Main Street before we start you know changing the lamp post so all I'm all I'm suggesting is that we would all be better served brother the beach would be better served if we give you a little more time to help us you know totally prepare a a strategic vision of but but you you did we sent a report out to the council month and month ago saying specifically what was in that design it yes a report was sent out uh detailed the discussions that we had as uh in the committee and the out to discuss nature yes and our 70% of the lights facing up are facing down for example right uh they're facing down exactly uh and that is that is that is you know putting putting some new pavement on the on the street before we rip up the sewers I'd like to understand before we address those points a much broader issue once you say what we can do all those things and still be able to move the on or there's no way you can move the utilities on ground either way then we can move forward with putting the lights facing up or facing down that that's how I'm viewing this in addition I there's a few poles I know they're supposed to lean but they attrative so maybe they can address that if we can't put them underground we have to have a better look we can't have these crooked poles that look like it's going to fall in the street we just need more time I think and and I think we'd be better served as long as it doesn't CME I think we'd be better served T I think we're in a Red Zone from a funding perspective with the state and federal government is that true Mr I don't know the details of that I I don't get the calls from from the Main Street and the promade I have not heard anything on S the proma we were told that we have a deadline that Main Street I thought we had we gotest we got a request from LA's office C two weeks ago saying what's up with this you know because the question we're asking too is we put in $5 million for second phase that we want to get awarded this February if I'm sitting in that chair saying well they haven't done anything with this what you do U and we haven't responded to it we been waiting on this meeting to say we move forward U design for tra just a reflection of the council meeting more input that we received today again with your best efforts yeah I don't agree with that at all I think we have had a committee we gave a report we've had this on the doet since night I've been asking about underground utilities yeah you've been asking councilman but the issue with yeah for years but the issue with which I I just don't understand why this isn't processing is everybody we talk to says underground utilities are an ex extreme expense very expensive to do our question is around tradeoffs do we want to invest all our money in underground utilities and leave the look of Main Street as it is or do we want to improve the look of Main Street and continue to look for funding to complete all those phases that's the question at hand I think right now underground utilities you know if if you're building a development in the midwest you can start that way when you're already there it's real tough to change is my understanding tell Rec I'm wrong I that's my understanding as well I I can't tell you what percentage of that million dollars a block is uh associated with the restoration work versus the actual infrastructure I'm I I'd be pretty confidently saying it's more than 50% uh is the infrastructure um probably much higher than that but I I can't tell you for sure so um I can certainly set up a meeting with uh our jcpnl government liaison who happens to live in Bradley Beach uh so that that'll be uhy to do uh and we can go from there yeah I understand too just another point on jcpnl jcpnl we put out earlier this year they they're embarking on a$2 billion infrastructure improvement process around relay stations and improving the consistency and the capability that's where they're focused right now I I'm not sure we're going to going to get a lot of them mind looking at an underground utility process right now uh they're pretty F and jcp's got their own backlog of stuff that the order trying to get a light bul changed on PR was a challenge in itself by that was okay any more discussion thanks man thank you so make a motion to approve 224 1887 uh Mr Noble no Mr tesy like the our Council to guide me first second Greg if you could um if we you know I think the alternative that I was expecting to pursue would be tling but the mayor's made a motion and we've got one no vote um if we continue to no vote can I then separately make a motion to table this or you just need to reintroduce it the particular resolution you're voting on right now would be would be defeated and and then you can make motion as the rest you could make the motion as to the rest of that was your pleasure bring sorry I didn't hear what you said say it one more time he asked if he could move to table them all if you've already voted on this one if it's I think it's just this particular one talking about not all the motion right midle middle you voted up or down that's your choices at this moment as to this resolution and if we vote it down can I introduce a motion to consider this at our next meeting yeah yes it's just a resolution you can reverse that decision at a future meeting we don't need another motion to say that we can do it at the next meeting and just make a resolution and do it at the nextre I'm sorry yeah exactly what council descri back just the resolutions just want to make sure I wasn't like de forever I can reintroduce it I will vote no Mone no Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes 2024 188 authorizing the award of proposal for professional Engineering Services for land surveying Services CME for Sil Lake improvements make a motion to approve 2024 second Mr Noble yes Mr yes Mr Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor fo yes 2024 189 authorizing the award of profession sorry authorizing Award of proposal for professional Engineering Services C Associates for extension P 114 1889 second Mr Noble yes Mr fosi yes Mr Weber yes M Mone yes yes 20 24190 authorizing propos for professional architectural services and Engineering Services C Association development of the existing V Building located 54 Ocean Avenue previously table 117 24 yes okay uh discussion on this particular this is the sewer pump station for everybody the building at um 54 ocean and um I just want to make sure in this resolution two things one I don't think and I don't think we should be considering pH two I think the mayor himself said earlier tonight um we should be focusing on phase one because we have grant funding totaling $50,000 and we and these components total 50,000 um so so I think we should suggest eliminating too from our vote and secondly um the council's been pretty clear that we don't want this building to U and any recommendations that come design recommendations that come from c CMA we don't want those recommendations to um be in conflict with CFA requirements doesn't do us much good if Mr matac presents a design that doesn't work with C so we want Design Elements to comply with cap and we want to make sure that we stay within the footprint of the building I think we've all been saying that for a number of meetings uh I would suggest two edits to this document one is strike the phase two that I don't think we should approve that now and two perhaps under phase one the uh the design phase Services if we could say cfra compliant design just so I think that cleanly says you're going to stay in the footprint and U and you're going to be ca for compliant can we add within the footprint C compliant design phase services within building footprint those would be my two recommendations to fors we need a motion to amend resolution 2024 d190 to indicate that the suggestion should be Capal compliant the fo building and that um only for phase one as listening resolution okay I'll make a motion that uh we amend this resolution to insert wording that says Caper compliant design phased services that are within the footprint of the building and we also added it to remove the phase two component of this current resolution second Mr Noble yes Mr yes M Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox yes can somebody please send me [Music] that for resol no we need toor oh yeah I'm sorry make I'm sorry where are we here well we just voted to amend it now we need to vote oh vote on the resolution itself okay gotcha who made the second thank you Mr Noble yes mrzi yes Mr Money yes Mr Weber yes mayor yes uh okay we want to announcements there are none mayor and Council reports um okay uh I can start um certainly the holiday season is full SW in full swing we began as we do each year with good works um last Friday or two Fridays ago on November 22nd some 80 volunteers from the Bradley food pantry distributed 600 Thanksgiving dinners on a windy chilly Ocean Avenue but uh mission was accomplished their next big event is this uh is actually next Friday December 20th uh is their Christmas distribution uh that's going to come out that's going to happen at their new site uh the logistics on that right now uh please support this important event uh next the annual uh Thanksgiving bonfire went off without a hitch a few residents Brave the cold and visitors joined us it was a great evening uh now on to Sunday of Thanksgiving week the merry Market at direct Center was a big success um then our annual tree lighting took place from 4 to 6 Poli the toy Drive Neptune High School Scarlet sound AC capella choir performed at the Bandstand we had some hot chocolate and cotton candy H carriage rides around the park and then the tree ligh of our resident seven-year-old Remy from the cave Avenue hit the button and the lights on the tree went on and then a Christmas miracle we had a snow squall um courtesy of Jr frine who braved a cherry picker above the site for some two hours in nothing but a hoodie so uh anytime you see Jr around thank him um Santa then made his appearance and the light of the children uh I'll cover some other events in a bit but um just let people know additionally that there will be a manora lighting on December 25th at 5:00 at Riley Park um and I'll put some more information out of that short we're working out some of the details on that right now um and just to mention um the temple on um Tuesday I can't what was I remember Thanksgiving yeah it was it was Thursday Thursday it was it was it just they held a Thanksgiving meal for our First Responders and um elected officials uh at their renovated um dining area was great uh event and they they're they're just a very thankful group and uh we very much appreciate that Community within our community uh Library tomorrow Thursday December 18th at 6 p.m. the holiday concert with Florian Shan Jazz combo uh come ring continue to ring in the season with winter favorites set to their combo uh it's free family program but registration is required Recreation um on the 14th which I think is Friday we have the re Center's brinch GRS um there's more on the website about that and on the 15th breakfast stand at direct Center more information on the website uh mayor's Wellness campaign um three municipalities that achieved Gold Award in 2023 healthy Town award designation were asked to present at the leag municipalities meeting in November in addition to Bradley Peach Burgen Bergenfield bur and homy Township presented their respective stories to attaining Excellence with a healthy Town designation wanted to thank Barb Johnston and L Hernandez publicly who kind of developed the presentation and worked with me uh convey what we have been doing in the last few years uh I won't go through uh too much on 319 Marine except to say that the bid package for demolition is for perspective biders uh is out it's uh we'll get bids in next week we have had perspective biders tour the facilities uh and we have I think some more scheduled between now and Friday we anticipate a successful bidder on the 20th um on that um so 2024 was almost in the books we've had some ups and downs but uh I think we came out ahead um it all starts with the collective efforts of our Municipal Employees or professionals and our volunteers we can't thank them enough um I I'm going to go I'm just going to go through very quickly kind of the little bit of a time capsule of the year we we kind of started the year with a support to our Jewish community on the October 7th atrocity uh we started a zooming for wellness process the police department certainly had some issues in the J F we followed with the new police chief followed by his concession of promotions it culminated tonight with a complete force uh our pantry move uh the Bradley Pantry uh they held $70,000 fundraise to help accommodate that fundraiser uh we had significant success with grants Main Street the prominade SE so and Lake Recreation we had some budget struggles that we finally got resolved um 319 I think we've gone from the end of the beginning to the beginning the end I guess we'll see uh infrastructure Lake Terrace Park we finished those enhancements sers Park Place Ocean Park and Fifth Avenue we had a January Jam for our first responders that theca ran that driving this Dy was a big hit uh but we lost Julia Rand this year that was her last performance um and I i' recommend the Council next year uh change the name of the Arts Council to Arts Council I think that would be a fitting tribute to her uh we had some hoops recognition for the elementary school girls uh we got gold designation for the mayor's Wellness campaign we continued with a lot of two Beach sweeps that were very successful we had five new additions to silven Lake five swans um that continue to thrive we passed the Lifeguard leadership torch and we had a big save of a vis on North Avenue beach we had a great summer we exceeded $2 million in badge sales our seniors celebrated their 30th Anniversary we had a great juneth celebration at the library we expanded our summer shuttles July 4th the 63rd army unit came in and did a great job uh the usfc contract we're still working on it we're trying peace management Improvement significant Improvement there um it cost us a few more dollars but we think we finally got to a draw or maybe even a win with the geese uh we had a great night out on the national out C Cinema Labs has been slow um and I I can't say anything to that at this point they still say they have a plan but we'll see uh uh agad our Temple had their 100 Year celebration uh we passed a referendum to assess the form of government we withdrew from the affordable housing community obligation um so these are about 30 highlights that I just kind of got down that the often think we don't get things done or things are slow we do get things done um and uh I certainly appreciate everybody who's made those things happen so I will now turn it over to council president thank you mayor I'm the L off for the sh treat U commission so they had a meeting on December 4th they um had four applications they're removing eight trees um at the locations of 307 4th Avenue 20 Fletcher Lake Avenue 415 Parkplace Avenue and 400 Evergreen Avenue the good news is they're going to have six Replacements plus a $1,000 fee is ass for one that's not being replaced their account is currently $1,900 tourism the Mary Market was held on December 1st and had lots of holiday Shoppers and that visited the vendors thanks to the local musician Ronnie Brant for filling the re Center with holiday tunes and thank you to the volunteers CJ and S as well as Rosemary Looney for working in the cafe and thanks to Adel Hall and rafaa Shireen for keeping the kids craft station going uh the tree lighting had its largest audience with live music from piece plus one horse and carriage rides a wonderful performance by Neptune High School's Scarlet sound thank you am for that and snow and special thanks to girl uh Girl Scout Troop 54 for handing out cookies and cocoa as well as Jordan fard for making the cotton candy um Amy Hall uh stated that Bradley Beach is not just destination it's a community committed to crafting Unforgettable experiences for all and we invite families and tourists alike to join us in celebrating the ongoing vibrancy of our small town special thanks to the tourism commission a hall also Michelle Willie DPW the police department the fire department the first aid and everyone else behind the scenes that meet it such a special event and such a huge success and next is the Jazz Festival stay tuned February 7 and 8 mark your calendar it'll be held in the historic Bradley Beach Elementary School theater tickets are free but you must reserve them as seating is limited visit the burough website for more details with the School the Bradley Beach Elementary School has named the teacher of the year Mrs Laurel Dean and education service provider of the year and Mrs Ana angelone both have had outstanding contributions to the scho school Community bless you John le next we are proud of the strong partnership we have with the Bradley Beach Police Department last week they held an evening training session at the school to enhance emergency preparedness their ongoing collaboration ensures the safety of our students and staff and we're grateful for their dedication and we also want to thank everyone who contributed to the holiday giving drive and supported the local food pantry making a meaningful difference for the many of our families and lastly oh they are also named as sustainable Jersey school of recognition that reflects our commitment to sustainability and our strong connection to our community and Dr hyberg and the staff uh wish the council and the residents a happy and healthy holiday season and I want to also add the Bradley Beach Historical Society has a new curated exhibit in the bazzi center I had the honor of cutting the ribbon for them on December 7th I believe it was on Sunday at uh 2 o' we also had many speakers come in that were multi-generational families here and all different heritages was really really interesting and I want to thank them for all their work they're all volunteers and their work is very important and it's very appreciated and that completes my report thank you so much everybody thank you Council thank you Mr Mayor um once again I thank Captain Terry Browning who provides me my uh my regular police reports and he did provide a pretty active one for us to close out 2024 uh since the last meeting we've had the following activity an area man was arrested for possession of controlled dangerous substance cocaine possession of a drug paraphernalia crack bip and hindering apprehension he also had an active contempt of court warrant and was in the company of another local AA man who had a separate contemp Court warant police encountered a subject acting strange on the train tracks and he was subsequently arrested for providing police with false information and public nuisance police made three arrests three separate arrests on three separate occasions for subjects driving well intoxicated a total of six individuals were also arrested for active contempt of court warrants during the last reporting period and then uh he wishes me a happy holiday u i speaking of that I would like to uh note that this probably does represent the the last meeting of the year to this Council uh thank you and the audience here and on Zoom for for attending today um but for most of our residents this will also be my last chance this year to State my gratitude for this community that consistently challenges every one of these council members to do to serve Bradley Beach and to make this a wonderful place to live I want to wish everyone a wonderful and healthy holidays over the weeks ahead let's all enjoy our families and our friends and let's return in 2025 energized to work together to make a wonderful Bradley Beach even better happy holidays okay Cil woman thanks hi everybody and thanks for coming to our last council meeting of 2024 I also went to the tree lighting and the bonfire and uh I brought some friends with me and we had a great time and the snow was amazing I thought it was a great addition because I got some really amazing photos the environmental commission met on December 2nd and during that meeting hosted in conjunction with the Bureau of Bradley Beach OEM Joe maruchi of trackx 57 News who gave an outlook on the winter weather for Bradley Beach I'll let you know what he said December should be cold the first half of the month with little snow snow it was cold it it was cold um but we should see a warmer second half of December if the polar vortex does not show up in January we won't have cold air and probably won't have much cold weather we could get days in the 50s and 60s in January the first half of February is our best chance of snow and expect mild temperatures for March as well so doesn't look like it going to be too bad thank you for to Joe marui for his program the land use board met on November 21st the board approved a variance for ribbon driveway on mamm Avenue it was brought to the board's attention that ribbon driveways have been deemed unacceptable in the buau depending on the interpretation of our ordinances and the suggestion was made to the board that they include in a report to the council to revisit ordinance 45041 A6 and to ensure our ordinance is clear on the permissibility of such driveway the board also approved 7 to Zer after the recusal of Mayor Fox Mr Marco and myself the initial and final application for the subdivision of 37-119 Line Avenue also known as the church property the applicant which was the burough also sought and was granted waivers for the follow following documents and checklists size and location of all existing proposed structures and length measurements of perimeter building and walls dimension size and location of all existing structures within 200 ft of the site boundaries and a grading and utility plan residents within 200 ft of the property boundary showed up to express concerns regarding the lack of a grading plan and the potential impact of storm water runoff the board will meet again on December 21st I want to wish all of our residents and employees a fabulous holiday season and a happy New Year this will be my last council meeting it has been an opening pleasure working for all of you and the rest of the residents of Bradley Beach these past 14 months I leave this position with my only regret being that I am unable to continue serving Bradley Beach in this capacity I'm excited about the future of Bradley Beach the capable minds and hardworking hands who will be doing an incredible amount of work in 2025 and Beyond I look forward to an increasing sense of community fairness Especial for especially for our 152 transparency fiscal responsibility trust inclusive decision making and respect for residents in 2025 there's an African proverb which with some of you I'm sure are familiar if you want to go fast go alone if you want to go far go together I'm excited to see how far Bradley Beach can go how much better we can be together thank you than about the first eight Squad so for the and then a few other things so for the period ending today the squad responded to 25 day calls and 16 Night Calls for 41 calls 25 were for medical 16 were for fire calls the squad provided medical OverWatch for the Bradley Beach annual fire and Santa in the park tree lighting which I should just say you know when we go to these things and we're having fun and you know our volunteers are there making sure that God forbid if something happens like they're ready so they're basically working when we're all having fun at every single one of these events anyway uh the squad requested one mutual aid from Neptune Ems for this operational period uh that meant that they fulfilled 98% of assignments for this operational period as always they're looking for volun there's free training for qualified people anyone who wants to volunteer with the first aid Squad uh can find the applications on the world's website they're accepting applications for their Cadet Program for Young People 16 to 18 years of old years of age uh if they're interested in serving the community and the fire fire repor is landscapes for some reason I don't understand why but um so for the month that ended November 30th fire department responded to 10 day calls three Night Calls to of 13 calls one was for fire nine were for alarm activations three were carbon monoxide alarm activations the department conducted one training for hydrant operations the department also conducted a standby operation at the B fire on the beach there were no Mutual Aid requests for the fire department uh they're happy to report they one new fire firefighter uh application pending and the department fulfilled 100% of their assignments for this period uh in this first day they're always looking for volunteers for they offer free training for qualified individuals anyone wishing to volunteer can find application on the B website uh let's see now regular comments I was at the tree lighting the tree lighting of course was great um I want to congratulate the members of the charter study commission who I guess basically got sworn into office and had their first meeting I think something like that so uh they have some work to do and um we all know what that's about so Fletcher L commission uh I will kind of say what the mayor said the residents are really happy about the Beast removal that happened I guess late summer early fall the commission got great feedback about and praise and the town got great feedback and praise regarding this PE removal uh that PE removal plan cost $5,000 and we split it evenly with nape uh the in a position to pay it when before we had the budget passed so the commission went ahe paid it uh they want to reup with this East control company and the contractor would like to execute the contractor 2025 possible now something else about the lake commissions people should just know the town pays $3,000 they give them $3,000 basically as a stien to each Lake commission just for them to operate money doesn't come with any strings attached it's it's just owed to the each calendar year um on a bills list back in October we approved a check for $250 to the commission so obviously the amount was wrong um the check was returned and a letter was submitted by the flet commission saying that flet commission believes they are owed the $2,500 they paid the contractor for the P removal in the summer and they believe they are also owed the $3,000 stud for the year of 2024 hopefully we can get this settled before the end of the year and then they can with this guy for 2025 as well um christien you want us over with your commitment to transparency and I think you should still be able to film a debate on your phone you probably think the same thing too um but it turns out there's a lot more to you uh which made you a great candidate for councel your attention to detail in financial documents and your willingness to go over and over and over uh all the budget documents um that made you a real asset up here um I've enjoyed sitting next to you and passing the occasional joke and hoping the public didn't uh notice or hear um so I would just want to thank you for your friendship and I'm happy that you're not going anywhere and that I will see you around town you got it all right and Mr Mayor I want to recognize how hard you have worked as the mayor of this town uh there are several infrastructure projects that will happen that you have put into motion from happen here tonight uh in particular I'd like to thank you for hearing me out on the need for the southern third of our beach fund to get better protected by bulkhead uh when you heard that you got it and you acted and as a result we a big Grand come to the town for that and if that project ends up being built we will have you will have had a hand in it so um thank you for that I wish you the best in the rest of your retirement I wish the best for your family and I hope everyone stays happy and healthy thank you and that's my report thank you counc okay uh we are now at the comments portion of the meeting I have AIT reality check to add to um the mayor's Time Capsule um I think public will reflect on his version of the events of the last year a little differently as predictable he leaves um which is hard of course um I titled this farewell Fox as we bid farewell to you Larry Fox it's imperative to reflect on your tenure which will be forever remembered as the darkest chapter in the history of Bradley Beach mayor Fox's Administration has been marred by Scandal corruption mismanagement and a blatant disregard for the well-being of our community one of the most egregious actions under mayor Fox's leadership was his cover up of the ex-chief of police Leonard Guida mayor Fox's mismanagement of public tax money resulted in multiple material misstatements in the 2022 audit a clear indication of his inability to handle the borrows finances responsibly others like myself still believe it was a crim it was criminal in nature and rooted in Rico activity and a criminal Network actively operating within our borrow government adding insult to injury the 2023 audit and both the 22 and 23 corrective action plans remain past due leaving residents in the dark about the true state of our finances mayor Fox's tenure has been characterized by a pattern of enriching his cronies and political friends at the expense of the taxpayers without our permission or consent he used taxpayer and residents money to sue our duly elected officials in a desperate attempt to hold on to power and cover up his criminal activities from being exposed his behavior towards residents who dare to call out his illegal activities have been nothing short of disgraceful he's been rude nasty insulting and dismissive even going so far as to threaten those who spoke out against him under mayor Fox's Administration Bor ordinances have been weaponized and selectively enforced against residents creating an atmosphere of fear and intimidation meanwhile he personally and blatantly violated borrow ordinances without repercussions his actions and inactions have left our borrow vulnerable to multiple Justified lawsuits further draining our already depleted resources he allowed our police officers to be obscenely abused without taking any action to protect them and for two years he failed to negotiate a fair contract for burrow employes leaving them in a state of financial uncertainty and personal frustration mayor Fox's divisive leadership has created a rift in our community never before seen in our lifetimes his Reckless financial decisions have depleted our reserves to the point of near bankruptcy and insolvency he has been he has increased our taxes to a record high of 21% placing an undue burden on the residents of Bradley Beach as we look to the future we are thrilled to see mayor fox go his departure marks the end of an era of corruption mismanagement and division now we can begin to heal under the mayorip of a true leader who possesses Integrity honesty and has the best interests of the residents at heart it is time for Bradley Beach to move forward and rebuild the trust and the unity that mayor Fox so frivolously and carelessly destroyed let us never forget how we got here ex- Mayor Gary englad endorsed Larry Fox who was elected despite never having attended a single council meeting before holding the office of Mayor mayor Fox will not be missed and his legacy will serve as a stark reminder of the importance of accountable and transparent leadership let us Embrace this opport to restore the community and work together towards a brighter future and with that I want to thank all of you each and one of each including Council and Erica for enduring the last four years and you conducted yourself with class and professionalism in the face of some very very uncomfortable situations that none of you should ever get pleas and I want to thank councilwoman personally for everything that she's done in the last year and being thrown into a situation that I don't think any one of us would have wanted to be it and I really look forward to the next year and I will never ever and I personally hold my responsible for my part in not participating or paying attention up until July of 2023 but after the last year and a half I've learned a lot I'm going to start volunteering I'm going to becom involved and I encourage everybody to do the same and I will never ever not pay attention to what goes on in my community ever again and with that I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and all of your families I wish you happiness and health in the coming year and thank you for your hard work thank you a Merry Christmas and we look forward to working with you next year as well yes Mr toan um Thomas jco 62 if you could indulge me for just a second council president um I'd like to uh repair something which was handled improperly um Council woman like bring back would you please sit up here for boun meeting you can make your comments from there where they should they should be made um just another Injustice uh fixed here in Bradley Beach um the uh I I would like to address the subdivision which was done to the church I attended the meeting um I've attended I'm not exaggerating a thousand planning his Zone board meetings I was very disappointed in the fact that the town would apply to the their own land use board and submit in incomplete documents and ask for waivers waivers are variances they're relief from the checklist items which protect the people of the burrow to have five people noticed within 200 ft all asked for a zoning plan and they're denied the zoning plan it was the most embarrassing thing so I would I would request that the bur belly Beach being the council reapply in January to the L use board for a bifurcated application including a grading plan to protect the people you have a a 1 half acre parcel you can properly grade the last time it was graded was 100 years ago make sure it operates properly for the residents who live near there do the plinary approval as should have been done in the beginning once the building is torn down then the town would come back for the final approval I I just like things to be done properly the application was not presented well they also snuck in keeping the parsonage well there was no testimony that the parsonage didn't need variances to remain there no testimony oh we're just drawing lot lines no that's not what you're doing so um I would request that in 2025 in January um you would do that um you know the res the residents have an emotional attachment to the items that are in the church but you know what the residents also have an emotional attachment to the statutes of the state of New Jersey which protect their items so I would appreciate it if that process was followed properly and you know mayor Fox is is not here but you know uh mayor gubitosi I mayor elect gubitosi I just for four years I've heard I think I think I look forward to a mayor who says I know I know that's that's the kind of Mayor I'm looking for so I'm sure you'll be able to have the answers and um the uh you know we've had a unique opportunity in November um and it was really fortunate for our residents to have elected Council mosa and I really look forward to 2025 and all the residents who attend all the meetings we really appreciate all your support coming out to the town and we appreciate everything you do Council thank you thank you oh well I think I'm not supposed to speak when I'm here so I'm I'm still left but thank you J I appreciate it um I thought I would hear a little bit of clarity of um 2024 2117 um for the awards improvements of Fifth Avenue and it's a 2023 Municipal Aid project can anyone share some clarity as to what exactly that is and was that money that was appropriated in 2023 and has being transferred into 2024 I know uh Council woman Mahoney did ask I did some ask oh yeah do you have any idea why this has 202 additionally Mr matac will be available tonight for questions so T sure uh this is a 2023 NJB Municipal a grant that the B has and we're utilizing it now uh you also have a 2024 Grant and congratulations 2025 grants we just announced uh this past week we received another one uh so we'll be doing some additional work uh coming did we not do this until now because of the budget delay was that part of it that was part of it uh the there was so a little bit of back and forth with the the design and then it had to go through a a DOT review process that was kind of like the from from what I'm used to but it it's been done and and we're to the point where it's now been awarded by the council which is good and so we'll we'll move it forward into construction can you tell us where construction will take place and you share that with us uh it's most likely going to be in the uh early spring it it'll start and uh Paving will be probably March April so it's Paving yesen Paving fth Avenue great thank you so the paving of Fifth Avenue is $360,000 much it is and we have the it's the uh I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut that's okay um it's the paving of of the two the I'm trying to get get my blocks correct uh 400 to 500 block of Fifth Avenue as well as lining the sewer from Main Street to this is from the this is the sewer budget it's I don't know what the the details budget that's that's beyond my favor I mean the seing would be related to sewer budg yeah this is so this like what talking about so we're Notting the road and then tearing up a year later to do anything to the to the sewers and what was the dollar amount no no no but I mean we got a grant from the state for 19 19 so this is did you sewer lining yeah I when we line sewers then what is that sewer line I mean we're still going have to tear up the 120y old sewers at some point so the lining process is is I mean exactly what it sounds like you you line the interior of the sewer man uh and it it's basically with a an inflatable tube that uh cures once you uh react a an agent and it hardens in place and that becomes the new uh sewer uh and that we we reviewed the sewers they are a candidate for this process not every sewer man in town is a candidate uh for example the the one we just did on Parkplace Avenue uh uh offset joints in that that name that would not so it's uh it was done this way I thought that's only good for years Ling uh that's probably pretty accurate wasn't aware that we were doing sewer L I think we can continue that discussion next year thank you thank you okay I have one other question it's okay um I believe that the B owns a minora in the past years been put out in Riley Park um I wish mayor Fox was here because I'm just wondering why it's not out maybe we can ask Pat do you know anything about the man okay um Mike Big Mike do you do you guys have do know where it is yes we have can we get it out maybe soon than later Hanukkah it's the same day as Christmas the same day as Christmas Christmas decorations deth I don't think they were saying lighted just exactly um will be lighting it on December 25th yeah but I would like to have it on display so if you guys could work on that that'd be wonderful thank you and I also just want to commend christop money for serving Council for a year um invaluable and I'm sorry that mayor Fox is not here because um I would just like to thank him for service for the past four years thank you I'll give you the message okay thank you okay Ray on up good evening I just have a just remind us of your name address sorry rcano 604 gra boulev I have a couple comments about the uh the Main Street improvements I think the decision you made tonight was the right decision um you wouldn't renovate a house and then decide that you need to repair the foundation and there's nothing more important for Aesthetics on a street than buried under ground distribution that's what you call a buried underground distribution the cost cost coded tonight I feel is very high one to3 million a mile is more typical utility companies also love bu underground distribution because it's easier to maintain and it eliminates Tre trimming and it provides more reliable service so they they do like it um deciding not to do that first basically means you'll never do it because basically what it means is that everything you do after it will just get disrupted and you just have to redo it so this is and if you just even think about it driving down any Street the ugliest thing you see are the utility poles you're not going to see the papers and the lights you really see the openness of the of the street it's where you start the project it's and again decided not to do it that's fine but you can you're never going to go back and do it thank you for listening thank you Lind duy 3 12 Brinley Avenue I just want to go back to what TJ was saying about the subdivision conveniently on their survey PL it's called the parage was going to remain but in package it's going to be demolished I did say it was probably a mistake at that meeting and they had no idea but obviously I don't know what's going on so what are we doing I think what you said about the bid with the de demolition that it's both buildings so it's all it's all buildings right so that land survey I mean the plot plan was incorrectly represented and the represented themselves and not represented what we were saying because we did identify that also because it's four Lots is that considered a large plot plan which does require grading and that was not addressed because was that the waer they were asking for okay by not putting the demolition on the plot right I believe the rfp2 not only they doing the demolition they're going to be doing the grading as well but I haven't seen the RFP I think I looked at it and I don't think it says that but I'm not sure right now um Ben is here maybe he can help us what are we going to do we're putting you on the spot tonight you should have left this is what why I'm here to answer questions I'm sorry so so is it going to be graded yes before after um the church comes down the well the church has to be demolished and then there is going to be associ but we people around the area are concerned about drainage because it does slope to other people's Pro not to mine necessarily but to other people's property in my neighborhood so they're worried that when that whole building comes down and there's a huge kavat in the ground is that going to be filled right away I can't tell you because that's why well I I can I'll tell you why I say that because uh as as was discussed earlier tonight uh tnm prepared the building demolition specifications that are currently out to do uh I don't know what those look like so this be ultimately uh the grading of the final buildings that are going to be constructed sense that that has to be done by construction wait say it again take look at all yes in Janu you take look have access right now to look at anything yeah that's great so the geys are back in force okay probably migrating there's a different type of geese there's residential geese no these don't look like they look like the regular pooper on the ground geese well even the ones that migrate have to do that good I think uh president's point is that there are resident geese that you know res what we dealt with and there's some that are migrating through and they stop and they see a lake and they stop and they spend a day or something check them tomorrow morning they should be gone they' been there week she seems to know okay all week on which L don't FL it it I get the legs mixed up still Sil South it's easy to remember oh there you go forget that um so Erica I have to ask you favor can you put that video back on the website I I don't do the website just so everybody knows who does that um I have I I don't know where that video is and I don't normally post that stuff to the website because the website did change recently how you view it at home we need to take a look at that as well yeah because it was so much easier to manipulate through it now it's kind of hard to find where you're going and that I noticed I went through every thing and I couldn't find that video again because I wanted to look at it just to see what else was in there because I think they're missing a few things and thank you everybody through your work and it's going to be a great year and look how nice we're all smiling and laughing at each other and I thought you were going to ask me about the East I thought you ask me to do something about the East like you're really about to get an answer let me tell you do we have a zoom at the thei center I'm that's okay thank you your work and if I'm on the beach again and you think a wave is going to take me out please wake me up anytime thanks for being here um ran did I answer your email you did I did okay good ran Downy 619th Avenue Governor Murphy signed s 34848 66 into law making outo permissions permanent for restaurants and certain alcoholic beverage retailers for the state of New Jersey will the bur of Bradley Beach have any say regarding whether outdoor Downing remains and if so will restaurants have to C there are restaurants that have out prior to co how is the new bill different than what already exists and what will Bradley Beach do about the concerns and complaints of residents and fellow business owners I've been impacted by outdoor dining for the past four years expanding restaurants to outdoor dining comes with responsibility to surrounding areas and residents all of these outdoor dining establishments need to be examined by the burrow of Bradley Beach and they need to adhere to code and assume responsibility special events need to be handled just like the code chapter 393 States and let outdoor dining be just that outdoor dining I believe a workshop should be held on the matter of out their dining including restaurants the mayor council neighboring businesses and the restaurant owners these issues but not limited to hours of outdoor operation school nights need to be considered as well as residents with their windows open on spring summer and fall mornings afternoons and evenings outdoor live music volume and frequency volume regulation and how many times a season outdoor sports events same as I just State Port poot storage it's unsightly and the weekly maintenance is pretty gnarly and seems unsanitary at a restaurant and public way outdoor restaurant operations code education and conduct expectations for employees parking capacity has been increased parking has decreased dumpster enclos enclosures placement cleanliness and maintenance we all want a beautiful downtown for Beach communication is the foundation of any relationship town code gives us a set of rules to follow and with that we can have clear expectations of our Nations the result cohesive communities thank you Council Pres respond to oh please do yeah Brian hang out for a second just um I don't know if it's going to answer any of your questions but you asked about you know out dining so the before the pandemic the restaurants that had out dining we had a sidewalk dining or Cafe whatever stipulation they could apply for it they could get approved for it but it went they had to apply for it and they would go through that every year and our code enforcement like zoning unfortunately we do it so just that's how that worked and I think what you referenced with the governor he signed something towns to you know if they want to make the outdoor dining permanent they can that doesn't mean that it's like it's not automatic the whole state so I believe we've heard from people some people want their their paring back and um so I believe for the restaurant that you're talking about like we'll have a discussion about that in 25 I'm not anti I love all the celebrations I like to eat out doors myself it just if I have to abide by code everyone else should sure you anything else you want add that Canon about this so there's a new state law that extended so they were temporary back in 2022 but this is this is a um a mutual area of Regulation between the burrow and the state right the alcoholic commission has author jurisdiction and we have jurisdiction at this moment the those temporary permits have all been extended automatically until November 30th of 2025 as they said and the director of the ABC has until May 30th 2025 two these are basically being made permanent at this point they not no longer temporary no longer year expenses you basically make an application and make your expansion your premises permanent the ABC is going to put out regulations they have until according to law May May 30th 2025 um at which that that will delineate the scope of the municipal regulation your points to code and everything like that that that's already in the original statute that requires a zoning application for these continue now to make them permanent so that's already in there so that will be addressed as a matter of course but in terms of how exactly the rest of what you described is going to be addressed we don't actually know sitting here but we will know by May 30th and then the if a licensing makes an application to make that temporary fire permit permanent as part of their liquor license it will then Renew on July 1 just like all the rest of them Co terminat with the rest of the liquor license as November date will go away and it will everything will go back to July and then regardless of what the special rulings are the special conditions and all the usual parameters of local jurisdiction to deal with a lot of quality life problems that you were identifying will still exist no matter what and will be applicable and can be applied by this Council or any burrow or any municipality um in during the June July renewal period um in 2025 so that's where we sit right now in terms of like what the rubric is right now all in the ABC's hands um and as uh up before May 30th they're going to issue what's called a special ruling do special R so do an advisory notice which basically explains to people like me and Erica how to handle this new regulation that they put in place on the local level because they're ultimately in charge of it so that's the current rubric of the situation um you know in many places that what was temp what was temporary and what people thought was acceptable as a temporary accommodation when now this is lit permanent um you know I think that the way people look at it will be different and I you know we're hoping that that will be taken into account by the ABC's um notice to come but prior to the renewals but if it's not we still have the same special conditions and all the ordinary liquid license controls over these premises that we do of any other bar or anything else in time so that's that's the rubric that we're sitting in we don't actually know how to deal with this problem this moment until the state tells us by that all right well I appreciate that thank you no problem at all thank you is that up Nancy meow ocean parkominium Association you know I come here not planning on saying anything and then everything comes up so um just want to point out that in 20 days it will be firm two years the DPW is not have contract I'm mortified um yes I'd love to see Power Power underground I had a power outage today work apparently was extensive through W Township and neun it's not fun to have kids phones computers um it's not a good thing um I would like to say that we have a pattern and I don't deal well with it in my personal life of waiting till the last minute and then having to make a decision that really isn't the right decision because we're at the last minute so that's in reference to all the grants that we were discussing this evening um and may I say it's not free money I paid for those grants with my property taxes here my state taxes and my f taxes so I don't want to just take them to take them I take them because we know where we're going with them which would help if I knew what you're extending the pr out with what what is it going to look like are we putting papers back are we just putting sand are we just building it up Main Street personally I've said this before pick a number four five whatever those are the colors you're allowed to do your fac when you redo it when you buy whenever Pi the same number of X number of designs that's a signage put a little elbow grease enforce the codes you would be surprised what Main Street might look like without all of these bazillions of dollars in January I'm so proud of you in January of 2024 and a telephone conversation with the VA um because we asked who does the website and Erica stated that she didn't but we didn't Le who I was told by the current ba at that time or the acting ba that each department does their own part of the website I'm not saying that that's true I'm really saying that's what I was told um regarding Paving Fifth Avenue 500 block that's the school that can't be done in Spring you got to find those months in the summer when summer school's not open and there are several blocks of time where that happens environmentally asthma inhaling all of that let alone the safety of all those Vehicles there and taking away from teacher parking it's not like they have a parking lot but you know why would we plan that um just point of cloudification the Society wonderful presentation was on Sunday the 8th this Saturday is the 14th I don't know why that um was given by someone else this Thursday which is tomorrow is the 12th so whatever is going on tomorrow the 18th is it tomorrow the 12th or next week the 18 I don't know and then Kristen who you were involved prior to this position you contribution with accuracy questions and humor could not be surpassed um you don't like humor remember me I know I know um and then and I expect this all to continue because you're not going to wilt away so with that thank you thank you and that's pretty much my five minutes although I will sit down and think what I didn't thank you very much any other questions or comments Lauren Lauren cor 4 and a half Brinley Avenue um just touching upon a few things that have been said today um I would also like to um to thank the um the movement that led to the Main Street decisions being put off until we know about underground utilities and I would also like to point out um with that regard and I'm sure you're all aware that weather is becoming more extreme that it's not just an aesthetic question you know that the more we can go to underground the less likely we ought to be without heat for extended periods of time you know um heat like um all of those important things um also you know I had an occasion to be walking around town quite a bit in the LA you know in the um early fall and I heard complaints about the condition in The View on main street but everything that I heard from residents was a really Code Compliance it was really things that were clean up so you know just that me and I too share the idea that just because we have a grant doesn't mean we want to match it and spend it you know I mean in the terms of I'm not educated enough on the whole Main Street plan to know whether it's worth it or it isn't but that is a perspective that I have that we should be choosing very carefully um what the bur needs and and how we use money moving forward um I too am concerned about the issue of the um of the 319 and particularly the graving plan um we brought that up at the zoning board meeting and this lovely um man from C I'm sorry I don't know your name um satisfied me very much when he said well that's all going to be taken care of with the Demolition you know the town will certainly see that that it's I mean it's we all know it has retaining walls and its high that'll all be down to street level and I thought that was great and then I went home and I thought wait a second any other applicant would have to make that representation formally in order to get the the permission to do the subdivision and now where do we have recourse and the idea was that it would be in the Demolition and now it's not this engineering firm but TM T tnm who put together the big specifications and we have no it's not been clarified to me yet that that includes grading that whole lot let alone what that grading is going to look like and how it's going to take place and I frankly am concerned about all the bids I I didn't um over the course of the last three and more years I have not gotten a huge sense of confidence about what H and you know or seeing a whole lot of transparency when it comes to things like bids plans purchases and I'm wondering does the council have any you see the you you see the specifications but do you have any say in what they are in the final analysis and do you get to see the bids and know on what basis the bid was chosen well we we would participate in the in the choosing of the of the B you the successful bner but that has been a constant challenge for the council who have not been privy to the development of the specifications they haven't been shared with us before they go out uh residents tonight have raised questions about that application council president denovo was really clear in in saying we wanted a demolition of all the buildings um that we wanted grading and yet the application and again uh Mr matl wasn't aware and we had tnm was pulled in we were not aware of that um an attorney we don't know was pulled in and it was all again it was all process managed by the administration and we found out more or less you know when when the uh L use board meeting occurred when all the residents found out when I think Mr M found out um you know exactly what was being requested uh so I hate to sound like we're making mistakes but we making excuses but we're we just have not been as informed as as we would like another way to say is a lot of people that are responsible for this work they should really be building together are are separated right so you have here who helped you do the subdivision plan but then another engineer did the demolition plan and the subdivision the gr subdivision has a building stay it's being knocked down by the de right I'm the B ATT and I haven't seen either so we're right so we're we're we're on December 11th in three weeks I have had a long discussion with mayor Le goosi about trying to make these pieces fit together in a way not just on this project level as you can see how confusing this gets when some you know just that that tonight you know more people look at it more people catch that the building staying in one and out down the other right and that is something that we have talked explicitly and for frankly hours at this point since election day about how we get a handle on all those little because every little piece that doesn't fit together just costs all the taxpayer's money which make it fit together after the fact and so that's something that councilman G mayor and I and a lot of all your council members frankly over period time talked about about getting those you guys come here and point out pieces that don't fit together every two weeks all meeting well for by my account for like an hour and a half tonight and that can't happen if you have any trust in anything that can be accomplished up here and that's like just you know to be honest with you we can sit here and not answer your questions on day but let just we be honest with you we don't know I don't I that was news to me saying makeone and on J on January 1 we intend to fit those pieces together efficiently transparently I mean Al could give you probably give you the speech you gave you on the phone multiple times but like that's what we intend to do we don't have an answer for you right now we we can sit here all night next two hours and I can't tell you how all this fits together the per doesn't know who does the website but we're going to find out January 1st and I can promise you on the the first and third Tuesdays now um we're going to make sure all the pieces fit together but that's the best that we can do tonight I mean I I don't need I don't need to like offer what have you we don't have anys talk really um the one thing that I would I'd like to get some some clarity on first of all I do completely trust that transparency and efficient working and collaboration is going to be the absolute Norm well the alternative has been pretty miserable I think we'd all agree so I'm sorry I think the alternative has been pretty miserable for all of us sitting here every two weeks together so that's something that may may and I discussed as well how we' to not do this every two weeks that sounds great um but still on that subject okay I'm going to ask this governing body not to let go of that grading issue I mean it would be great if it could be dealt with on the bid can I put um and new construction but also there would be required for for the whatever being news being up there to have a grading plan but your point is well taken and reviewing the site plan and making sure that it's what we originally talked about here in September is like basically what top three top two I don't know we have a lot of problems but it's up there yeah if I could just go back to that individual property that's exactly what I'm hoping to circumvent I have been on the zoning board and I have seen what happens depending upon who happens to sit on it who happens to have an application what there are a lot of variables that can come I ask you a question and I don't to cut up you're weth of like revealing stuff do people here bar only have the basement to get more space underneath the house and then the houses Tower over is that the greeding issue that you guys I didn't understand so it's been my experience in towns where the property values are high that people start playing with the firstborn elevation in order to jam more space underneath the house this happened this happened to the point of absurdity in some cases I'm bringing fa as and so there is a way to address that through your zoning ordinance that they did in Fair Haven which does not allow you to then have a castle that fa of towers over your neighbor's house because you've effectively raised the the great from street level of your property feet in some cases in Fair Haven is a lot more topographical than here so like I'll bring you the houses that like you I can't I can't believe that that was allowed right um so we can address that overall issue I've heard that brought up a number of times I've heard it brought up here as part of the subdivision you don't want a bunch of four houses re toing everyone else seems to be and drain AG also becomes a problem because everything comes off the roofe the leaders run down to everyone else house long story short I'm really familiar with this issue and I would um I can bring you the ordinance that they passed in Fair we can we can look at it that prevents people from jamming basically a third floor as a basement that's this far out of the ground and not you know you know long story short I am familiar with this issue and we can work on this too in a more comprehensive sense than just this property yes do you know thank you that was a concern that hadn't even occurred to me it's just someone it's just the idea that right now we're what 5 ft above and then even if they're not trying to build more under there it's nice to be high and dry unless of course you're raining down water on your neighbors you know you have a great view but you're taller that it just to me any the it doesn't there was a suggestion by the zoning by the for um at that last meeting that you residents are going to have to stay very Vigilant and you're going to have to come to every meeting if there's any you know if there's any request for variances on those properties and I thought with the D restrictions like with like variances no and then they couldn't tell me whether that was true or it wasn't that wasn't true according to them and then it seemed to change it wasn't a super confidence building meeting um but I would just like the town to take care of the grading issue on that entire plot and then you know and then going forward you know whatever ordinances me the other thing that peaked me was the idea of lining those sewers I know it's already an issue with the north side of town why are we getting lining when other people got new sewers and I would really like you to stay on top of that too before anything actually happens with those sewers and opening it up and doing that and closing it up again and the fact that that came as a surprise I feel like I need to apologize to all of you I I have some feel for the dynamic that has existed and um the game of clean up that may need to happen um I'm sure I had something else um that's pretty much your sorry one more quick thing real quick could you please consider allowing us to have dogs on the boardwalk unleash in the winter hours mirroring ocean just put that on the back leash thank you I'm sorry to take so long that's okay I okay hi 313 Avenue sorry Mr Canon but I'm going to have to officially because at the land board they told us to be vigilant and to come to every meeting and um essentially I live right next door to this property I'm I am concerned about the grading because of the water runoff the height is actually not as much of a concern because we've lived next to a towering church for the last 20 years so the height is not necessarily the issue for me it is the fact that we've never had water on our propert and really don't want that but I think it what I would ask of this governing body is that there be one meeting where you bring every professional into the room and hold a public meeting so that we can ask questions that get answered from the issues that Paul raised Mr mishin who was not emotional at all because his responsibility as the president of the historical societ to preserve the history of this town so by asking these questions that is his job just as our job as residents is to make sure that our property is protected but I also am concerned because that building we've never demolished a building like this no one in this T in this room there have been other buildings in the history of this town where there's they've been demolished I don't think anybody's been responsible for such a a large building that has been there for so many years when that comes down there will be an impact on us as neighbors and I can give you an example when they fixed the retaining wall around the church the rodents that lived in that retaining wall had to go somewhere guess where they went into our homes we had to deal with that issue imagine what it will be like this has been an animal sanctuary it is beautiful to watch the birds and the raccoons and the squirrels play all day it is wonderful but they're going to have to find a new home how will you handle that will the street be closed off will the sidewalks be closed because then the kids walking to school will have to find a new route to school so just like when you pave Fifth Avenue and you're going to have to work with the school you're going to have to work with us as neighbors to inform us to make so we're aware of the that we are going to be exposed to because we are going to be exposed to hazards and so for the safety of the residents please do your job of informing us so that we are aware because if we're aware we don't need to be emotional but if you put me at risk I will be emotional and that is not fair to us as residents just we're asking for information but don't make us go to 10 different meetings I don't don't have the time to go to 10 different meetings if you can do this in one meeting where you put everybody who has the information in the room so our questions can get answered that would be a much more responsible approach so that's all I ask than yes I we have a couple people yeah three people hi Julie 605 Nork Avenue um I'm really concerned hearing about Liners in the stores I live on the North Avenue and I know that this has been brought up before about liners and everybody said no way where all of a sudden did this get approved we we were under the impression that grand were Paving I was not aware I until green the question Mr answer because I'm I'm very concerned I'm so concerned about this is because first of our infrastructure with our soures are just a mess to begin with and we have so many issues there but just to to think that oh okay well we'll just do because we wasted money I mean obviously we have a lot of financial issues that um you know with the departure of Mayor Fox um now that we're all going to be seering I'm a taxpayer over 10 years here now I'm going to get a liner in my source will be revisit okay so nothing will be approved and nothing will go blocks like again future sewer projects I think are going to get a different view to answer your question I think this was a decision of the administration that we weren't necessarily aware of and don't you have to approve that that just can't unilaterally pass I think we just did tonight we have toit okay I just wanted to make sure because that really did I am sure scared every North End resident in this town that there are going to be surprises going on that we that you're not aware of and that we're not aware of so um you guys have your work caught up for you thank you 2025 will be much more inclusive and a lot more transparent and uh we'll keep you posted on everything we can well and I thank you for what you said Mr can about come January 1 we're going to put the pieces together give you some perspective we can see for a couple hours and talk about stuff that we don't know and I know we all sound like a brok we just can't this town can't go on like this it just can't thank you oh thank you um yes okay exactly I see Elliot OT iPhone to state your name and address please yes my name is Elliot Isaac 36 Parkplace thank you um did I this personal name for mayor Fox I see that he has uh looks like he's run away so members thank you resident thank for let me speak um I come to you tonight not only as Aur homeowner but also as someone deeply invested in well-be and beauty of our beloved town forley beach has been a sanctuary my family offering a quiet warmth and charm that has drawn generations to its Shores it's with that Lov and commitment in mind that I share the challenges we are facing regarding bamboo uh seek your understanding and support the issue with hand um in August of this year we received notification that the that the bamboo planted on our property legally planted by the previous homeowner in 2017 excuse me was now in violation of Town's bamboo ordinance enacted in 2020 acting swiftly to comply we arranged for the immediate removal of the bamboo incurring substantial Fe and substantial costs in the process despite our efforts we were informed by Mr Martin Kylie the town inspector that additional more invasive work was required including digging a trench 3 ft deep along the entire length of the plant de um while we've complied at every turn the process has become increasingly burdensome and costly exposing gaps in the ordinance and enforcement procedures they're not only impractical but also inequitable more moreover our contractor professional bamboo landscapers pbl has suspended work in Bradley Beach New Jersey due to the town's policies and inspection requirements further delaying our ability to restore our property our key concerns number one the ordinance language and enforcement the bamboo ordinance lacks Provisions for grandfathering or Le for bamboo planted legally before the ordinance took effect requirement in the ordinance for the 3-foot trench now being demanded creating ambiguity and adding unnecessary costs number two it's health and safety risks harmful herbicides like Roundup are not a viable solution for our family given our personal circumstances including family members battling serious illnesses and young children presentence in the property non-toxic removal methods are essential number three equity and shared responsibility bamboo Roots do not respect property lines despite this only our property received a violation notice even though adjacent properties also containing bamboo remain unaddressed we propose that the cost of the removal be shared among effective property ERS to ensure fairness and efficacy number four impact on contractors in compliance pb's decision to suspend par and Brad and Beach highlights the impracticality of current policies When contractors connot effectively homeowners are set up for failure despite their best intentions a proposed Solutions number one amend the ordinance include Provisions for Grant and bamboo planted legally before 2020 clarify and streamline requirements to avoid unnecessary financial and physical burdens on home owners number two simplify the inspection process limit inspections to a single visual check post removal and followup inspection one year later to confirm compliance eliminate the unwar unwarranted three-foot trench requirement unless explicitly justified by by bamboo experts provide number three provide financial support introduce Town subsidy for bambo removal to assist homeowners facing exorbitant costs share removal costs among all effective Property Owners with the town coordinating efforts to ensure collective compliance number four designate approved contractors establish pbl or similar professionals as primary vendors for bamboo removal in Bradley Beach allowing for standardized practices and cost sharing Arrangements F forward our goal is simple to comply with the ordinance restore our property and move forward without further undue hardship to date we have spent thousands on removal with projected costs in the future far exceeding our budget this is due to delayed and additional requirements we ask the council to act act swiftly permit pbl to resume work without the risk of fines or unnecessary delays notify all effective Property Owners to ensure collective financial responsibility and prevent regrowth introduce a town subsidy for bamboo removal to assist homeowners facing exorbitant costs provide a resolution that allows us to replant and restore our backyard without fear of future legal or financial repercussions kind is of the essence as winter approaches frozen ground will further delay work extending the eyesore in our backyard and preventing replanting efforts until spring this prolong disruption is neither fair to us as homeowners nor beneficial to the county in closing Bradley reaches a community that thrives on collabor collaboration and mutual respect by addressing these challenges thoughtfully and equ can uphold the values that make this town so special I urge you to consider the proposed Solutions and take decisive action to resolve this matter to benefit all parties involved thank you for your time and understanding and hopeful that together we can find a resolution that restores our property and more importantly our faith in the B the Bradley Beach bureaucracy to serve and protect our community I appreciate your your time thank you Elliot thank you Paul M okay I just want to address this real quickly do we need to revisit our ordinance for this I I think we meeting with Mr ISAC yeah yeah and I I've had numerous conversations and email exchanges with Mr Isaac um and Mr Isaac just to recap you know what you and I have covered um the administration directs employees they direct code enforcement they direct uh you know uh all the immediate challenges that you're facing with your property being torn up there unfortunately there's nothing this Council can do until next year when we can change the ordinance and a lot of what you read tonight I 100% agree with I was the author of the existing ordinance that needs a lot of changing so I take some responsibility for that I I I'm largely plagiarized from other town so I think we're all learning about invas invasive species but our we that's something that I ever intended to learn so much about having to work with with the council to be able to either amend the ordinance help other people to move move past this this is not something that should be such a stumbling block but in terms of the immediacy of your property being torn up and and you know you're dealing with code enforcement in particular that really is something that the the mayor and the business administrator should be able to to address with you over the next three weeks beginning January 1st you know you'll have a you'll have a new Council and and a new mayor and we can certainly work with you at that point but I wouldn't wait three weeks if you're able to engage business administrator and the mayor as you know U mayor I think toy I've been emailing it feels like for months now the mayor uh the ba with zero response I I it's a little bit hard for me to comprehend how someone is in that position and won't even acknowledge a receipt of of a of a of a a complaint like that um so when you ask obviously to wait for 3 weeks I don't have a choice I me I'm in the position right now where we were willing to do everything to comply spending thousands thousands of dollars on something that's not going to beautify our property the property was beautiful the way it was it was a simple beautiful property it looks awful now and we can't do anything to make it to fix it it's it's disheartening Mr Canon am I giving advice no I I try to figure out the issue at this point I be Hest I don't really know anything about it the neighborhood situation is or what have you so I'm hesitant I'm not trying to comp the gentleman I just don't really have a great answer for no but if there was anyone to work with it would have to be our Administration in the short term yeah yeah yeah I mean overall yeah this Council really can't do anything over the next three weeks that I'm aware of well perh you know we can try to reach out and see if we can get some movement it sounds like the gentleman just wants some certainty on how to put his backyard together that he's not going to put it back together have to rip it up again I take am I taking that I don't know if you can hear me or not I I I had a little trouble hearing you s it sounded like you were really looking for certainty to put your backyard together that if you put it back together X way no I can't put it I can't put it back together because the the I've been told by the uh inspector that it has to be dug up by 3 three ft along the entire perimeter of my backyard in order to do that there's one company in the tri-state area that that specializes in that we were ready to contract were at our P out to be able to sign the contract they were already involved in another job in Bradley Beach the inspector delayed them and find them and they said we are and then I got a letter from the owner of the company saying because of this we are no longer working in Bradley Beach that's why I can't repair the things that that have been that have been destroyed because the the root system I've been told has to be taken up by by by three feet they're the only people that can do it they comeing with their machines nobody else this seems like a function of the way it's being enforced and as Mr gubitosi said we don't have control over that right now we've got 20 days and we will have control over that 19 19 whatever um you know definitely sympathetic Mr Isaac and I definitely want to talk to you and I would go Road and do that before the administration changes but it to me it sounds like it's has something to do with the way it's being enforced it's not something we have control over at this second so we do have I know we have to move on but we do need to make ordinance changes I I'm just encouraging you to continue if it's a daily email just continue to request mayor's intervention to I'm happy to do that even if I get no response having to do that I you know obviously see all of you as I have been and I appreciate your your your time and you know um respect with this issue okay thank you very much thank you okay on the champion 411 and a half Line Avenue um thank God we have a change in administration happening now and it's too damn bad that it didn't happen years ago um in the meantime in the remaining weeks I hope that no more harm will be done I'm specifically concerned of course of that the 319 Line Avenue and the way it's been handled um I wanted to clarify one thing um the mayor surprised me again when he was discussing the uh his history of of how the disposition of the artifacts was being handled he mentioned that um Rose o Conor mayor had been the one who had been working on this um which was very strange um when I had a discussion with him on September 27th which I took extensive notes on which i' be happy to show everybody he assured me that she was quote no longer involved in any way in the process and I had specifically asked him if I could talk to her to clarify exactly what was going on and he said no she's not involved anymore she won't be involved well it turns out that she was and I I just I don't know how you work with an Administration which can't be transparent or consistently honest in their in their discourse with you so please let's make sure that nothing else bad happens in the remaining weeks thank you thank you okay so I think we are done with that and uh we have to go into now so i' like to make a motion I send my second for the record here second yes mrb yes Miss Mahoney yes Mr Weber yes mayor Fox and if people are leaving I just want to say thank you for being here um we love serving you it's our it's our highest honor and please stay tuned through 2025 it's going to be a really great year do I I know