All right, we'll get the meeting started. This is the safety and public works committee meeting, Brainard City Hall, 7 PM. Uh we have four items on our agenda. The first of which is approve engineering services proposal SE East
River Road sanitary intercept lining and I'll turn it over to public works director Mike Havagor. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Attached to this item is a proposal from SE to perform engineering services to assist the city in several tasks related to the east river road
sanitation sewer interceptor main. Currently the city has a segment from Rotary Park to College Drive identified for a lining project in 2027. The proposal includes an initial the initial to assist the city staff to perform
investigation of the line to determine the appropriate priority level of the project. Information from that investigation including previous work already completed including camera investigation would be utilized in an effort to apply for MPCA grant funding
towards the project. To make the most effort of this grant application, staff is recommending applying for the funding for the entire segment of the Rotary Park to Laurel Street rather than the shorter port portion to College Drive. Depending on the results of the grant
solicitation, final plans for the lining re real rehabilitation would be complete. The total fee, the proposed fee is estimated not to exceed $74,880 for the initial project per the proposal
should the MPCA grant award be received for the additional segment of lining of the college drive to Laurel Street. SE would require a contract amendment to include this additional scope. At this time without the a guarantee of funding the scope of the work is based on the
current planned project exceeding extending from Rotary Park to College Drive only. Staff is recommending the proposal from SE only for this work due to the previous experience and performance on the adjacent segment of the sanitary main and the familiarity of
the plan project. It is anticipated that there will be significant cost sa savings for the efficiencies utilizing for this work. And also if you have any specific questions Paul from is here to answer any questions for this. All
right. Thank you Mike. Are there any questions or comments? I got a yeah question. Um I don't know if I should ask Paul or Mike but um what was done was what you identified from College Drive to Rotary Park. um that essentially goes down to the forest main
crossing the river, right? That that stretch that's college drive down to there where Rotary Park is, right? Yeah. Paul, do you want to Yeah, thank you. Uh Jeff and members of the public works committee. Um yes, that is correct. Um this uh project that we
have scoped in our fee is for design and bid uh bidding services to um construct the project in 2027. um if the MPCA does award um a grant to the city for the entire segment um that
may be um that the project gets moved to 2026 dependent on what their funding timeline is um for the project. So we would So my question was it goes from College Drive down to approximately the main lift station correct to pump it
across the river. This proposal then is from College Drive north up to Laurel Street. No, this one is for that segment from College Drive to the main lift, the 27in interceptor. So, what's different about what you guys submitted to us? What is What is Hap? See, I'm totally
confused. I thought this was additional to that. That's what I understood this to say. What we were doing tonight was going to add additional engineering consulting work for what's north of College Drive because we've already done it from College Drive down to Rotary
Park, have we not? No, we have not. What's what did we get then last year in February? What was the from what what was that engineer deans? Looks like you with an answer. Yes, sir. The INI report. So, we had two different reports that were prepared. One was the
preliminary engineering report that was developed from the camera uh that we were able to do through a change order after the lining project that was done on the other segment that was lined. uh we had some additional money so we had that camera in a report done um so that
was kind of the preliminary maybe 30% report I guess you'd consider this uh so this is kind of building on that um okay so that's not related to this so when this came up last year we looked at uh and and I argued that we should do it
sooner than later and the council agreed to go move forward with this hopefully in 2027 so now we're here tonight to say um we we we need more engineering services on something we just did INI on. So that's where I'm confused now. Um
based on that is that this $67,000 included in the additional cost of approximately 20 25% which got raised us from like 1 million up to 1.3 in 2027. Was this 67 included in that additional
cost when we came up with that estimate of what it's going to go up by 25%. Can I I'm sorry. Could you read? So this I'm guess I'm confused. This this proposal is 74,000. Is that okay? You said 66. I think you referred to 74. Is
that okay? So 74,000 we're looking at Okay. So last year we talked about this and it was a did the INI study. Yes sir. And my take on that was like we need to do this sooner than later. We had long discussions about this. We talked about
putting it off to 2027. and the price is going to go up 25%. To 1.3 million. My question is, is this number we're looking at tonight included in that additional cost? Was that figured in? That was just a very preliminary
estimate. So the number we had, we took from the let's take that 30% report from that camera. We took that, we applied some inflationary factors and estimated what the engineering cost would be. This is a much more firmer engineering cost. Um, well, do we have what was your
estimate for that then? I'd have to pull it up. I don't have it right. Not relevant. I I want to get this done. So, I'm just trying to figure out how we get to this point. I I'm not against doing this. I just didn't I this is new information. See, when I asked are we going north of College Drive because
this is that's all got to be done too eventually, right? north of College Drive up to Laurel because that was talked about in the INI study and um I believe that's where it talks about that potential grant that if that's awarded then we'd extend it up to is that correct Paul? Yes, that's correct. So
our scope of services is only for final design. So taking the report that we prepared um for the city back last year delivered that to the city that was like a 30% design. We came the line we saw what the defects were. there's a lot of
root intrusion and things. So, that was then we were able to generate that cost estimate that's in the report. From that point, we'll go into final design, plans, specs, and then take you through a bidding process. Okay. If that funding does come through, um the solicitation
comes out sometime this month. Um historically, it comes out in June. And if the city is successful in getting a grant for the entire segment from the lift station up to Laurel Street, we would ask that the city amend our fee to
include the design of the segment from College to Laurel at that time. And that's why I'm asking these questions because now I understand it. I I just I'm reading that memo and I maybe I went through it too fast, but I appreciate your Yep. No problem. Clarification. All good. All good questions. So, any other
questions or comments? If not, maybe looking for a motion to uh proceed. Um, one quick question. What's our Are we gonna have an ask for a dollar amount of the grant or is it just whatever they can give us? Um, the solicitation is not out yet. Um,
historically those grants have been capped right around 750,000 and I believe they're a 50/50 split. Um, I think the last time, um, if I remember correctly from one of our staff that looked into this, there was $4 million statewide. Um, I think our project is
set up very well that it'll be very competitive. It's a very, um, critical line for the city and it's next to a very critical uh, w uh, body of water where INI could have a significant impact on the Mississippi River. So, um,
there certainly, I think, um, we're in a good spot to be able to apply for that at a very reasonable cost and get that application submitted. Thank you. Yep. Thank you, Paul. So, the motion recommended by staff is to recommend approval of the proposal from in the
amount of 74,838. So, so moved. Second. All right. Motion is second. All those in any further discussion? Those in favor say I. I. Those opposed, same sign. Uh motion carried. All right. Our next item uh approve
costs associated with Goodpoint Technology pavement management. And again, public works director Mike Cabagor attached. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Attached, uh to this proposal from Goodpoint Technology is to provide pavement management services for the entire city of Brainard and uh network
street network system. A little bit of history. Back in uh 2023, Goodpoint submitted a proposal including the final and the evaluation of our city streets as well as a startup fee and software licensing totaling near nearly $30,000
for the street pavement condition rating only. Since that time, Goodpoint wants our business and has performed pavement scanning for the for the city street network and inputed that data into their software. With this evaluation already complete, this provides a significant
cost savings to the city as this was the majority of the initial cost of the payment management system. At this point, if the city would like to use the services, the cost would be $5,995. The cost includes $4,000 for setup and
to and to update the inventory and scanning. The remaining $1,995 is for the annual software licensing cost, a yearly annual cost. The software would put the pavement performance curve
on the software system that would show conditions and deterioration rate of the streets for future years. This would be a huge benefit to help us with determining our 10-year construction plan and planning accordingly with BPU with our utility improvements.
Currently, we are using interns approximately every three years when uh we when we can have those appropriate interns to evaluate our streets or we could use this software system for every about every five years. Just imagine the
interns again, tape and clipboard in hand, walking the the streets and measuring the the cracks and so forth. We have 80 plus miles of streets in Brainer. With interns, the performance and accuracy may become less after each mile. The software system will get accurate results for each mile.
Goodpoint would like the city of Brainard to use their service. This initial service will cost the city brain of Brainard only $5,995. Next year in 2026, each year we would pay the $1,995
for the annual software license. For future services in street scanning, the cost would be approximately about 20,000. The street scanning would be a capital improvement project and would be put into our budget cycle every year.
Staff is recommending that we approve this uh Goodpoint technology for the amount of $5,995. And with that, we can take any questions. All right. Thank you, Mike. Any comments, questions on this item? I have a question. Councilman Jagger had
his hand up. Yeah, just real quickly. I'm not familiar with this software but the question that I have is is once we pay for the software we get the scans do we own those scans uh in in perpetuity or do we have to continue the lensure
with this company to get access to the scans that we've done p previously that's a good question I'm going to refer to Jesse specifically for that the data we can pull off um the one trouble that we do have is they're all rated based on a formula for deterior
deterioration. Um what you'll find is a lot of our streets don't deteriorate at the exact same rate. Um so that's why uh as as Mike kind of referenced, having it uh rescanned about every 5 years uh just re essentially resets the the system to
make sure that uh we're accurately reflecting what the condition is about every 5 years. Thank you. But just in summary, it'd be fair to say that this would be a long-term relationship to to use their software continual to be continually updating the scans,
continually inputting the new information, right? It's it's not a something we're going to do for a couple years and then we have the information and then we're on our way. It c it can be a short term. You could always change um software vendors if you wanted to, but there's always that capital expenditure. If you were to go
back to the uh December 2023 RFP, uh Good Point was the most economical option at that time as well, right? And that was really the impetus of my question is if we have the information on from the first company, can we apply that? Do we own it? And then if we change software, is it applicable or are we starting over again, I guess, is my
question. There's no guarantee on whether or not that data would be software to software usable. That was my concern. Thank you. That's all. Councilman Chzik, yeah. Did they did they scan anything other than streets? To my knowledge, they just did the
streets. Okay. And then, uh, if we wanted anything else, because I know there's manholes, sidewalks, uh, curb, all that stuff. Um, we'll just have to pay them more money to do those scans, right? Yes, sir. How many miles of our 80 miles of streets did they scan? All
80. Um maybe the ones that were under construction when they were going through with the scanner, they may not have. Uh but to my knowledge, they went through all 80. Okay. Um and you may have said, but what's the term of this contractor? Is this an annual thing or is this for the five
years? It's just an annual license fee. And we would recommend that we keep this for an extended period of time because we are used to this system. We're used to the software. It has good management and good uh Good Point is a great company
here in in in Minnesota. You know, I like where the proposal came back as opposed to the first time. And I think as you've, you know, had a chance to talk with with staff prior to this, there's a lot of benefits of doing this, the consistency, the regularity, and it kind of gets it out of the realm of the intern and into the right more
officially into the staff's hands. So, I think so. Just just real quickly. So, I just want to be clear. The staff is asking for for us to allow them allow us to purchase this for just this year or is this something you're going to be coming back every year saying we need or
you're are you asking us to just allow you to do this in perpetuity until otherwise? Right. And it would in forever in the sense that we would in our capital plan we would be putting this in our capital plan every year or every three years to get this done. It'd
be a continual maintenance thing for our roads. Very good. Um, one one quick um I gotta give the uh good point a uh a hats off for their uh persistence. I And also I think because uh we didn't agree to it
in 23 or last year. I think it looks like a savings of about $24,000. So perhaps holding off is beneficial. That's all I got. I move to approve the staff's recommendation, Mr. Sure. Second. All right. Motion and second.
Any other discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed, same sign. Motion carried. All right. Our third item, an ordinance prohibiting the feeding of stray and wild animals. And um community
development director Kanic. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh staff recently received a complaint in Northeast Brainard regarding a neighboring property feeding stray animals. Uh the individual that made the complaint stated that the stray animals are creating a significant nuisance and damaging their property. Uh
in addition, staff have also received complaints in the past concerning the feeding of wildlife and attracting nuisance animals in and around their properties uh such as skunks, turkeys, those type of animals. Uh after hearing feedback from city council at the last meeting, staff drafted a proposal uh
that prohibits outdoor feeding. The ordinance would make exceptions. One of them would be for above ground bird feeders. Uh it would also allow outdoor feeding with a proper enclosure essentially a dog kennel um coupe or run and would make exceptions for agricultural uses and government
agencies such as the DNR. Uh natural fruit trees and shrubs would also not be considered uh feeding. All other outdoor feeding would be prohibited as proposed in the ordinance and really staff looked at this as the only way to enforce the ordinance. I know council had concerns
of how you'd potentially enforce this. Uh so with that staff has given three options to council. Uh direct staff to bring the proposed ordinance to the next city council meeting for the first reading. Direct direct staff to amend the proposed ordinance to apply to only wild animals. Or option three direct staff not to proceed with the proposed
ordinance. And I can answer any questions. Right. Thank you. Um Mr. Cranbeck. Any questions or comments for staff or I guess I would just say that there was a lot of discussion at council when this first came up. Um concerns over
enforcement. Um, I share that concern and I, you know, I'm not sure I would, uh, support. Um, it's a very well-ritten ordinance. Um, but I don't know that it suits the needs of the city, um, or is necessary.
Uh, but I do think, you know, this is a a good example of staff and council being responsive to the community. So, as James said, this was something that was brought to staff as a complaint and a concern and the staff went forward, brought it to council, and council had said to, you know, proceed, do do your
due diligence, draft an ordinance, and for our consideration. But those are my thoughts. I guess I'd be open to hearing other other thoughts or comments or entertaining a motion. Mr. Chair, yes, I would be in favor of
moving forward with this draft language. And the reason why is cuz without this there is no way to enforce any of these things that are going on. With this there is the potential to enforce. So it's kind of like with with when we have
this as a tool it's there's a possibility of being able to say um to the people or person that is feeding the animals it's not allowed right now. We can't do that. So that's I if Kevin has anything to say, I'd move to I just if
you have a any Yeah. Any other comments or questions? I have nothing to add. And entertain. Yeah. I'll move to approve the going forward with the draft language coming back with the All right, we have a motion. Is there a second? Just on the draft language. Correct.
Yep. Second. All right. A motion and a second. Any further discussion? I'll just And that that includes uh the the wild and domestic. Just so James so options one and two direct staff to bring the proposed ordinance to the next city council meeting for the first reading and to direct staff to amend the
proposal to apply to wild animals. Well, it's two. It's wild. So, it really just be the first option. Um as proposed, uh the proposed organs includes both stray and wild animals. Secondary was clear on that. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. All right. Motion a second. I'm going to vote no
previous comments. So, uh, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed, same sign, I. And motion carries. That brings us to our last item. Item number four, approval of Buffalo Hills Lions Park name change. Thank you, Mr.
Chair. The Lions Club has invested much time and funds into the Buffalo Hills Lions Park and is requesting a name change to Lions Park. The Lions Club presented this name change to the park board on May 27th and the motion was approved. The Lions Club will fund the
new sign if this motion is approved of. Out of respect and courtesy, the Lions Club is here today to address the council. And as they're walking forth, I just want to say that this group is uh been a pleasure to work with and a very strong force in the city of Brainard and we just are privileged to have them.
Thank you, Dave. Thank you. Could you just say your name and um certainly for the audience? Uh my name is David Call and I'm with the Brainer Lions. um been active with the Lions for 31 years. So, it's been a long run. Um and and we
recently came on this we've been working with the city on on Lions Buffalo Hills Park. We'd like to clarify it just to be Lions Park. Um and I want to stress that that's not Brainer Lions Park. It's Lions Park. So, we're reaching out to
the other Lions clubs in our community from Nisa to Garrison to Pillager um and and you know, hoping that we can get gather support from those people as well. Um we're working on getting letters of support. So, um, at this
point, we're we're in the process of working with staff to come up with a master plan for the park that would show, um, uh, adaptive playground equipment u, or all-inclusive. Some people prefer um the there's pictures on
the screen, there's a PowerPoint. This is equipment that's specifically made to deal with um, folks that are um, challenged physically. Um, so there are swings and a rocking platform that they
can be on. Um, some of the swings are have special harnesses for children that have um special equipment or something. Other others of the swings are adapted so that you can put a a wheelchair on it. Um, we recognize that there would
also then need to be paths to the playground equipment because it's very difficult to push a wheelchair um over gravel and and um grass and so forth. Um, as of today um
the the city had provided in the budget um $90,000 for equipment at this park. Uh the Brainer Lions have added another $80,000 to that pot. Uh and we're in the process of soliciting grants and so
forth to um to make this dream a reality, if you will. Um we'd also like to see six or eight pickle ball courts out there. Um some walking trails. Um, and uh, um, what I'm asking for tonight, I guess, in
addition to getting the name changed, um, we would like to to, um, to have staff directed to work with us to draft a letter, um, of fiduciary support so that as we get grants, um, the city would would hold those funds.
That's a necessity for a lot of grtors um that they want to have somebody else hold the money and not me personally. Um and then also to direct staff to work with us to get a letter of support from the city. Um we're also like I said
getting letters of support from other community organizations as well as other Lions clubs. So um any questions? I could go on for a long time. Thanks, Dave. Any questions or comments for for Dave or of staff? I have staff question.
Thank you, Dave. I got Thank you. I got a question. Okay, go ahead. Um, did the park board give a recommendation to us? Yes, they approved it on the May 27th uh meeting and the motion was approved. Okay, that's all I didn't catch that. Okay, thank you. Councilman Jagger has a
question. Yeah, very good. That was that was actually my question. But I just did want to make one overarching comment on this and I spoke a little bit about this at the meeting at Buffalo. It is very it's it's much much easier to get these parks to get new equipment into these
parks than it is to maintain it. So, I just want to reiterate to uh you know, our participants and and our partners at the Lions that as this begins to mature in fiduciary responsibilities, I'm going to be looking to see a long-term
contractual obligation by the Lions on the long-term maintenance of this. not just getting it built and putting in our park system, but something on paper long-term that uh helps us helps us share the long-term maintenance of getting these built. It's great to have
them. Uh but uh I'd like to see us have those same partners as eager to maintain them as they are to get them built. That's all. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Yes, to Mr. Jagger's point, I believe the city has already established that if there's a donation of sorts that
we will not be responsible for replacement of any kind of uh amenity. Is that does somebody know the answer to that? For parks, I'm not aware of anything of that nature, but I can speak that the Lions Club has already donated
$10,000 from that our last meeting to the city of Las Vegas for a specific line item for replacement of that equipment. and that is just to show their strength uh to move forward with this type of proposal. Well, I I was
just asking the question as far as if that's something that anybody here I thought a mayor Bedau might know. Um if that's something the park the city council has either established through the park board determining that or not. I I vaguely have vague memories of that happening where we uh if somebody
donates a bench, we're not going to be responsible for replacing that bench. I think it's made known to the person or organization that's donating such a facility. So maybe I'm wrong, but anyway, that kind of goes to your point. Mayor, do you want Yeah on that? Yeah, Jeeoff, to follow up on that, that is
the general policy of the park board. I don't know if there's any instone language on it, but their general philosophy right now is that if something is donated, it is for the useful life of that item. Uh you mentioned benches, that has specifically
been called out. So memorial benches are fantastic, but they do have a lifespan and we can't just be replacing them at the city's cost at all times. So um yeah, so just generally yes, that is the policy of the park. Thank you. Um you got time for one more comment or
question if there are none. I uh the only comment I have and I mean this is an incredible investment and thanks for being here for sharing this and and having this vision for the the park there and and that investment in Brainard. Um, I'll certainly going to support the motion, but my only
hesitancy is I I hate to see the name Buffalo Hills go away. I mean, that kind of defines that neighborhood. And it's really tied to the the the geographic feature of Buffalo Buffalo Creek. And so I I have my only hesitancy is to see
that go away in in the name. Um, so respond to that. Um, yeah, feel free. We got about two minutes, a minute and a half. at farross and I'm a Brainer Lions member and I joined the Lions back in um
92 and um the Lions the Lions Park was one of our projects back from '92 and in my mind and I think in the mind of a lot of the members of the Brainard Lions
Club it was Lions Park. Um, we participated in putting up the shelter. There's a Lions logo there. Um, I think we'd be very happy if it were Lions Park in Buffalo Hills or something. We we
could adjust the name to to meet that geographic. Thank you. Response. Appreciate that. And we we appreciate being here and thank you. Thanks, Mark. Uh, with that, um, I move to approve the request of changing the name. Second. Motion and a
second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed, same sign. Of course. Motion passes. And that ends our committee meeting. Wow. All right. We'll call to order
Brainer City Council. It's Monday, June 16th, 2025, 7:30 p.m. in council chambers. Uh Tony, please call the role. Chzach here. Johnson here. Stun. Jagger yes Erikson yes Bevans here oay here
please rise for the pledge of allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
moving on we have approval of the agenda so moved second Johnson. Motion by Chzok, second by Johnson. Any discussion? Seeing none, let's go to a vote. All in favor? I against. Same sign. We have an agenda. Next, we have the consent
calendar. There's a notice of public that all matters listed are considered routine by the council and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless good cause is shown prior to the time the council votes on the motion to be adopted by roll call. Move approval
Johnson. Second. Motion by Johnson, second by Stunic. Any discussion? Seeing none, Tony, please call the role. Chazak, yes. Johnson, Stun, yes. Jagger, yes. Ericson, yes. Beans, O day, yes. That passes. Next, we have the public
forum. This is time allocated for citizens to bring matters not on the agenda to the attention of the council. Time limits may be imposed. So, we'll try to keep it to three minutes or less to anybody who wants to come up. Uh, I know a lot of you are probably here for St. Francis. That will come up later and
there will be a public forum specifically for those items. Um, so if you're here for that, just hold off for now. But if you're here for anything else, please come forward and address the council. And if you're online, please press star three if you'd like to address the
council. Did Eric press the button? Looks like no. All right, I'll ask one more time. If you're here to address the council, please come forward. If not, we will now close the public
forum. It is 7:32. Moving on. Next, we have council committee reports. First up, we have personnel and finance committee chairman Gabe Johnson. Thank you, Mr. President. We have five items on the agenda tonight. The first of which is to enter
into a school resource services school resource officer services agreement with the school district. And the motion is to authorize staff to enter into the proposed school resource officer services agreement with ISD 181. And I so move. Second. Motion by Johnson, second by Stunic. Johnson.
Pretty much the same agreement we had last time. uh the uh the cost has gone up a little bit to match the uh increase in pay our employees have had and then we added a couple paragraphs that are mandated by state law to discuss what uniforms they'll wear and give public
notification that they'll be there but it otherwise it's pretty much the same thing we've had. Thank you. Any more discussion? Seeing none, let's go to a vote. All those in favor? I against same sign. Motion passes. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Mr. President. Next up is uh hiring
of a laborer and the motion is to ratify the hiring of Kyle Glass for the laborer position effective June 23rd and place him at step four of the laborer wage grid $2821 per hour and I so move second motion by Johnson second by Bevans. More
discussion some justification on the step four. He's coming from a job where he's been in a similar position four years and actually currently makes more at his at his current jobs. We sign a slight pay cut to come work at work here because we're such a desirable place to
work. Sounds like it. All right. Any more discussion? President O day. Yeah, Mr. Chz. Just for clarification, you need to give the department they'll be working in. All right. The public utility department. Thank you. All right. Any more discussion? Seeing none,
let's go to a vote. All those in favor? I against. Same sign. Motion passes. Chairman Johnson. Okay. Next up is a reclassification and the motion is to reclassify David Nelson to the meter techch locator position effective June 17th. Further that he be placed on step
six of the meter techch locator wage grid. Further to authorize staff to complete an internal job posting process to fill the water service worker position. Did I so move? Second. Motion by Johnson, second by Stunnick. Johnson. This uh gentleman is currently a water
service worker. He want he applied for and is qualified for this position. and we offered it to him per our employee policy manual. He will place him on step six. Thank you. More discussion. See none. Let's go to a vote. All in
favor? I against. Same sign. Motion passes. Chairman Johnson. Thank you. Next up is a custodial services contract. And the motion is to approve the custodial services contract with North Country Janitorial Services. And I so move. Second. Motion by Johnson,
second by Bevans. More discussion, Johnson, received we received one proposal. So, while it were a fun place to work, we're not not a very fun place to clean up after, apparently. Got it. More discussion? Seeing none, let's go to a vote. All in
favor? I against same sign. Motion passes. Chairman Johnson. Okay. Next up is a clarification regarding roles and responsibility of the council and public utility commission. This is related to the uh motion we had on hiring a public utility director at the last meeting and
it's summarized while in the packet, but I just want to let you know we will handle this at the next meeting of any questions anybody has as a public utility commissioner or a city council member who thinks there's questions we need to resolve before we hire a new
public utilities director. We will handle those at the next council meeting and then we will move forward with the hiring process. So, I just want to say if any public utility commissioner and I hope Tony somebody let them know or any city councilman has any questions that
need to be resolved before we formally post this job, get them to city administrator broles by June 23rd and we'll address them at the next council meeting. Excellent. So, no motion on this one? No, just an FYI. Okay. Thank you. End of report. End of report.
Thank you, Chairman Johnson. Moving on to safety and public works committee chairman Tad Ericson. All right. Thank you, Mr. President. We have four items on our uh agenda tonight. The first of which is uh to approve engineering services proposal
uh for East River Road sanitary interceptor lining. Motion coming out of committee is to approve the proposal from in the amount of $74,838. And I so move. Second. Motion by Ericson, second by Chzach. It correct?
Just a little additional context. So, um we've um the attached proposal is for SE to perform engineering services uh to assist the city in several tasks relating to the East River Road sanitary sewer intercept main. Um this is
connected to the the force main that of course went underneath the the river that we um previously um corrected. And then this there's a grant that we're applying for that would um go from College Drive up to Laurel.
This segment is just from Rotary Park up to College Drive. If they're successful in the proposed grant, um it would require a contract amendment, but for this proposal, just considering from College Drive to Rotary Park. Thank you. And how far into Rotary Park
does that go all the way to to the Yeah, to the lift station. Okay. Thank you. Any more discussion? Seeing none, let's go to a vote. All in favor? I against. Same sign. That motion passes. Chairman Ericson. All right. The
second item is to approve proposed costs for Goodpoint Technology Pavement Management Software. A motion coming out of committee is to approve uh the proposed cost from Goodpoint Technology for payment management services in the 2026 budget for the amount of $5,995
and I so move. Second. Motion by Ericson, second by Chzach. More discussion on that. Yeah, I'll just mention uh staff had brought this to us. You know, previously we're uh rating the pavement essentially throughout town utilizing both staff and uh interns when we have that capacity. And uh we've
previously received proposals from Goodpoint were considerably higher. We held off on that and now with this second proposal coming in um now considerably lower um a lot of the costs that were associated with a higher amount for mapping and they've done a
lot of that. And so um with this proposal there would be an an annual um service fee of $1,995 um going forward. But the initial year and uh would be 5,995.
Again, considerably lower than their initial proposal. And uh this kind of gets it out of the realm of having interns do this pavement management, gets it into staff's hands, and it also gives them uh a tool to consistently rate the pavement um year-over-year.
So providing consistency and um it gets it into higher quality work by staff. Thank you. I'll say this is the third time I think in the last few years that we've voted on this. Uh the first time was unanimously no. I might have been
the only yes last time, but I'm here to say you guys were right. You saved us some 24 $25,000 just by waiting another year or two. So, um, if we're going to go forward with this, which I'm going to support, um, I think the cost basically
offsets when you consider paying an intern to do the same thing every 3 years, spending the entire summer grading pavement, where this is actually less objective and more accurate. So, President,
uh, I'm still going to be a no. I mean, I'd rather buy $6,000 in material and fill potholes, you know. I Oh, we're going to do that anyway. Well, we we're getting rid of $6,000 right here that could be spent on even more material. So, I I am not going to
support buying more software. It's nice of Good Point to come in and give us a really low firstear estimate on the software costs and our needs and and good on them on on their sales team for putting together the proposal. God bless him. I'd rather buy material to fill potholes. Thank you. Mr. Chzach, did you
have something? Um, I kind of appreciate what Mr. Johnson said, and I I I did say it in committee that uh they their their uh diligence and their insistence on getting us to accept this is remarkable. They they didn't quit. Um
as you you didn't indicate, you were I think the loan vote on uh wanting to go forward this as a capital cost in 23 and then last year it wasn't necessarily voted on. It was just removed from our capital cost as our um engineer had put it in there. And um so we caught that
and saved ourselves a little bit on our levy. But um when I look at this, if if this can accomplish I I guess and kind of in contrary to what Mr. Johnson said, if this can accomplish what we're being told, it does make sense to do this. And
I I think uh not to speak for you uh President OD, but these were your u same uh desires you you expressed at the in 23 is what we're reading in our agenda request of why this is a good move for the city of Brainard. It eliminates the
uh the uh uh the inconsistency with a by human error um that type of thing. It's uh it's more scientific, I would say, is probably a way to put it. And uh the one thing I am I would like to find out though if we could get some information from staff, not not before we go forward
if the council does agree to, but find out what the additional costs are for the curbing and uh any kind of sewer and uh manhole scanning they can do to help us with that just to see what that cost would be once if the if this uh is approved tonight. So, but I I am in
favor of this. Thank you, Mr. Chzac. Anyone else? I will say in addition to that, I appreciate what you guys your opinions on this and I I understand where everybody's coming from, but I do see in
in 5 to 10 years the way that AI has changed. One of the difficult things that we do at the city is try to combine our utilities underground and our streets and try to come up with a 10-year plan. I think within 5 to 10 years, AI will probably be putting that together for us and this is going to be
a big component of that. Don't be worried, Jesse. You're still going to have a job. Not the interns. They're out. Interns might be out. Some of them, but we can find other work for them to do, I'm sure. So, you know, the benefit costs for AI are pretty low,
too. Yeah. Mhm. Benefit costs. Oh, yeah. You're right. That's true. Health insurance. They haven't made a union yet. Time. Anyone else? Seeing none, let's go to a vote. Uh we
do a voice vote. Tony Chzac, yes. Johnson, no. Stunic, yes. Jagger, yes. Ericson, yes. Bevans, yes. O day, yes. That passes. Chairman Ericson. All right. Our third item is
consider an ordinance prohibiting the feeding of stray and wild animals. Motion coming out of committee is to direct staff to bring the proposed ordinance to the next city council meeting for the first reading. And I so move. Second motion by Ericson, second by Chzach. More discussion. Yeah, I'll
just mention too, this was as staff uh mentioned at the last meeting, this was brought to staff's attention by a resident and um there's much discussion at city council of course for that. Um continued that discussion in committee. Um concerns about enforcement. Um and I
guess I'll just add that um there was a split vote coming out of committee. Thank you. More discussion, Mr. Evans. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to vote against it. I almost think we're fixing something that's not broke. And we're going to give our police department way
too much stuff to do. And another reason for people to call to complain about their neighbors when they could probably just go knock on their neighbor's door and say, "What are you doing bringing bears into the neighborhood?" Yep. I mean, what about the birds? We're going to,
you know, and there's all of that. This one says bird feeding is okay. I believe I know it does. Yep. Tell the bear that keeps tearing down by bird feeders then. Yeah. Well, you live in northern Minnesota. I'm just I'm just
not looking to give our police department something to do. Thank you, Johnson. I'm with Kelly in that I still don't support this ordinance, but I will be voting yes tonight. Oh, no. Is this the first reading? No, this is Oh, that would be the next. Yes, I'll be voting no tonight to even bring it to a first
reading that we'd have to vote yes for. I agree with everything Kelly said. And the bird exemption makes the whole ordinance obsolete because can you feed birds on the ground? If you can feed birds on the ground, you can feed feral cats on the ground, too. We already have
the ordinance mechanisms in place to remove the type of animals that we're writing this ordinance to protect us from. And I think we should just use the laws we have. So, I'll vote no. Thank you. Uh, Jeza,
I u I I'm I'm supporting this because I I know a couple of individuals um actually don't live too far from Mr. Beavens and Mr. Jagger and they are in a uh a apartment complex of sorts that uh
one of their neighbors would constantly feed the animals and along the river there's a lot of animals and they couldn't do anything about it to speak of the person they talk and it was no no getting through. So it sometimes people
are rational and understand and I I think this will just assist the city. Um I guess I would have a question. Would this be enforced by police or would it be our code enforcement official, Mr. Cranic? It would typically be animal control. Animal control. Okay. Um so
yeah, I mean I just look at this as another tool that would aid whoever is doing that animal control um to say u you know here's a little bit more leverage they have to put a stop to any of this going on if if it's really affecting people as uh there seems to be
happening. So that's all I have. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Chzach Ericson. Yeah, I'm going to vote no as well. Um, I thought it was worth looking into having staff draft the ordinance and I just I said this in committee, I'll say it here as well. I think this is a good example of city being responsive to residents concerns. As we said, this was brought
to us by a resident um over, you know, some isolated concerns. Uh, sta staff brought it to council. Uh, we asked them to kind of look into different model ordinances, draft an ordinance. Um, and so I think it was worth the exercise, but I'm going to vote no. and no matter how it goes, I think we're being
responsive. Thank you, Chairman Ericson. I I agree with everything you said. Uh I think this is a solid ordinance if if there's a need for it. I think we got to get out of the habit of forming ordinances based on one or two complaints. I think this is one we could
file right next to the busking ordinance for when it does become an issue. It'll be there. We can use it. We can tweak it and and make it fit whatever we need, but for right now, I don't think that it's necessary, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you. So, what does our ordinance say for the number of cats that you can have? Four. It's four, correct? If they are your own cats, you're allowed to have four. Well, but okay. So, if I'm feeding 40 cats in my garage, I have 40
cats. Whether or not I've licensed them or not, I've taken ownership over 40 cats. So, I'd like to see us enforce our ordinance and say that if you're feeding 40 cats in your garage the whole winter, you are now the owner of 40 cats. And you can't have 40 cats. You can have
four cats. So, pick your favorite four. Hopefully, they're fluffy. But, at some point, we should just enforce the ordinances that we have. Thank you. Any more discussion, Mr. President? Mr. Chzach, that ordinance itself is very
difficult to enforce the four animals, whether they're two dogs, two cats, or whatever. That's an extremely difficult ordinance to enforce. So, and I I I see what the mayor's saying, but I mean, I I know there's many people right now that have more than they're allowed for pets
or animals. So, how do you enforce it? But anyway, thank you. Yep. So the motion we have is to move forward with this ordinance. That is what's on the table. Um so if you vote yes, that is moving forward. If
you vote no, that is to put a stop to any moving forward on this. Any more discussion? Seeing none, let's go to a vote. All those in favor? I. Those against? Same sign. I That motion fails.
Uh, Chairman Ericson. All right. Our fourth and final item is approval of Buffalo Hills Lions Park name change to Lions Park. And the motion coming out of committee, I got to find it here. Motion coming out of committee was to take
staff's recommendation uh approve the name change from Buffalo Hills Lions Park to Lions Park. And I so move second. Motion by Ericson, second by Chzac. Any more discussion on that? Uh, I have a question. Uh, Mr. Chzrez,
go ahead. I think if it's possible, uh, the representatives from Lions would like to just address us. I Is that something that's Yeah, we had the the representative from I know we have a motion and we do already have a motion.
Um, if you guys if you guys want to fill in what you heard from the representatives from the Lions, that would probably work just fine. Yes, Mr. the they're they're proposing to make significant investment into and I'm going to do a far worse job than than Dave gave in his presentation, but they
are uh proposing to make a significant investment into what's now called Buffalo Hills Lions Park in South Brainer. And um try to find the slide here where it talks about it. That's the word I was looking for, adaptive playground. Um,
and so they were I think it was to the tune of $80,000 141 and page 141. I'm searching for it on my page here. Um, I found it here. So, we're um start they're planting trees um rounding out
stumps um putting $80,000 towards a new adaptive playground. Um it's their hope to uh collaborate with the city and um city of Brainard and the pickleball association to provide a park that encourages physical activity, health and wellness for all age groups. Uh their
focus will be to develop a paved parking for wheelchair and walking accessibility, adaptive playground complete with lion fountain and a walking path that winds through the park. Uh the only and I I supported it in the committee. It was unanimous. Um
I'll support it again. I did mention um being living in that area. I know I refer I tell people I live Buffalo Hills neighborhood, you know, and I've heard other people say that. So, I I kind of like the name Buffalo Hills, so I I'm going to support it. Um I think it's
it's a true character. There was some history and additional context that proves me wrong. Um but I I think a lot of the neighbors in that area know it as Buffalo Hills, so I have a little hesitancy seeing it go away. Um, but I think the tradeoff is is well worth it.
So, thank you. Thank you, Chairman Ericson. Um, if anybody on this side, these guys already got to ask questions. I'm fine with you guys if you want to ask questions of the lions. I'm supporting the motion, Mr. Chair. As am I. Can we vote? Excellent. Any more discussion, Mr. Mayor? Yeah. So, I'll
give you just a quick rundown since we don't want to hear from the Lions, which I do want to hear from the Lions. Uh, I had some really good conversations with this group about the park. A as the leazison of the park, we get a lot of people that come in and want to add things to our parks. And the problem
with that, as uh, Councilman Joerger has said, is that at some point then there's a useful life to it and we run into an issue where we have to pay for it in perpetuity. And so the conversations that we had on this is what does it look like for maintenance? What does it look like for long-term stuff? Um part of the
conversation as well and just in naming the park, there should be some kind of um I shouldn't say demand, but some kind of stipulation in there that there will be a continued um conversation about what type of funding that looks like to try and keep the park up and nice. I
think it's a fantastic idea. I think the park board fully supports it. Uh, it is going to cost a lot of money and I have heard from this group very good things. I and I know these individuals. I'm trying to see Nancy. There she is. I know Nancy. Some of these people are very good at fundraising. Um, and so I
have no doubt that uh they're going to be able to uh see this through to its fruition, but at the same time, there is a commitment from them in looking at it from the long term. The one thing I would suggest is I do also would like to echo the sentiment that it would be nice to continue the Buffalo Hills name on
there. Um, may I suggest just adding as Mark Cross said, uh, just at Buffalo Hills. So, Lions Park at Buffalo Hills. We've done that in the past. Big Sev at Hitchwane Park. We have a history of it, but uh, that falls to the council to
make that decision. So, thank you, Mr. Mayor. More discussion. Yeah. Was the Lions responsible for that water lion waterhead that used to be over there by the water tower at six in Washington? Was okay. Sounds like a yes. And it will
be put back into Lions Park with the roar. I was told. Excellent. And it's splash park, too. There is. There you go. All right. Well, um, being the motioner, I guess with that suggestion and both from the Lions and from the mayor, I guess I would amend the motion
to um change the name to Lions Park at Buffalo Hills. Second. Motion changed and second or seconded. Everybody okay with that? Okay. More discussion. Seeing none, let's go to a vote. All those in
favor? I against. Same sign. Motion passes. All right. Chairman Ericson. End of report. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to number eight. This is unfinished business. 8A is a call for applicants. First up, we have Mayor Bedau. All
right. The following boards and commissions have applications available, positions available. Charter commission. Two terms expiring in 2025. two terms expiring in 2026. Housing and redevelopment authority, one term expiring 2027. Library Board, one term expiring 2027. Public Utilities
Commission, one term expiring 2028. And the Transportation Advisory Committee, two terms expiring 2025, one term expiring 2026. And as council president, I have all of my terms committees full except
two open terms for the water tower committee. It sounds like you don't have all your committees full. Almost almost accept. Next, we're moving on to uh 8B. This is uhformational on the point in time data request. Uh I believe this one
is the presenter is not listed, but I'll hand it over to administrator Broyals. Uh thank you, Mr. President. This uh evidently I I missed the last council meeting, but Mr. Mr. Chzach had asked for a data request for point in time
some information from the county regarding the homelessness. This is really justformational. The information that the county provided is attached. Um I guess if there's questions for this beyond this, Mr. Chzach, we'll be happy to entertain those. But um do you have
any questions? The information is a task. It's just information. Anyone on council have questions? Yeah, Mr. Chz. Yeah, I I just uh I wanted to point out that uh this was a council action. So to sign to to say it was me, I I'm a little
bit u surprised it was posted that way, but um this was a an agenda item we all voted on. So, it's a council request. But that aside, um there's a couple of items in this request that I'm a little I guess concerned about when and uh I
guess I've done a lot of data requests uh reading over chapter 13 and my understanding is that a government entity is if they have the data, they provide it. They don't direct you to where you can find it. And it looks like in two cases here we did just uh the
minutes which I think in many respects there were dispersements. So that's probably going to show up on their consent calendar anyway. So um unless somebody questioned it at the county board and they had a separate discussion which I don't believe ever happened. So we do see the dollars that were included
in there from January and um uh February, March and April. Um I would question is maybe at the time we asked for this a dispersement for May may not have been done based on the timing of the their approval of said dispersement
if there were any in May. Um the other item is uh the grant itself. Uh I don't know what grant is being used and they again directed us to go to this department of human services website which to say that request is too broad. I
think maybe we should reward it uh so it's more specific if we could to find out what grant is being used and uh the other you know so some of these it's there's a lot of uncertainty that I think we should know what what's going on and that's why I I asked that we have
this on uh added to the agenda and vote on it. Um, I would entertain going back for uh an additional request that maybe at this time I don't have anything prepared to uh be more specific, but the county knows what grant they're using to
provide the money to the organization. So, that's what I'd like to find out if uh if the council be okay with moving forward a little further with this to find out if there's any dispersements in May cuz my understanding was the grant
they did get was for a year- round operation and uh if they hadn't got approval to do the year- round operation starting May 1st, they were getting money for that and uh starting in January. So, and that's why I think we as a council
member trying to understand what's going on. I think it's important that we find out from the county where the money is coming from and who is it going to. I think we found that out, but and and when was that approved, what grant is
that? Then we didn't get that. So, that's where I'm at with it. I don't know how anybody else feels. Thank you, Mr. Chzach. Yeah, I was I was a little disappointed with the amount of information that we ended up with after this request. It's a very short um
answer on some of these things. So, however you want to move forward with this, if you want to take more time and and come back with a different request in two weeks or if you want to word it some way tonight that we might get a better answer, that's up to you. Um looks like Mr. Johnson has comments, too. Yeah, I have a couple of comments.
First and foremost, I I too was disappointed to see that that it said member Chzach requested information because maybe member Chzach made a motion, but in my recollection, it was a unanimous vote by the city council that this entire body made a data request to the county. Well, it was not one member.
Any one member can do that, but we did it as a body. My one question is to Joe, are all of these answers like legit answers to data requests? like legal answers like we could give constituents asking us questions just saying ah that's too
vague that's too broad I don't know yeah council member uh Johnson and I we have some conversation back and forth with staff on this point no that simply stating oh go here go there is is not sufficient and and there has been some back and forth with the county on some
of that stuff and we can certainly follow up some more to get that information uh redirecting to a state website or even redirecting your own website and saying, "Here are all the minutes. Go find them for yourself." That's not It's not sufficient. Thank you. That's I didn't think it was. I wanted to check with you. I'm in favor
of Jeff. I think we should keep going forward on this and maybe work with Joe or something to correctly phrase what it is. We're I mean, I thought we correctly phrased it, but how to make it so they can understand the question, I think is important. So, I think we should keep moving on this to get the answers to our
public data requests, which they're required by law to answer. I agree. Um maybe we just allow staff to continue to work with the staff over at the county and maybe in two weeks we have a better answer and if not before then we can
formulate a better question or a better data request that is more clear. President OD yes Mr. Chaz. And actually, I I believe it's three weeks till our next meeting, but regardless, uh I like that idea of just having our staff see what else they can get through their own
devices and then uh if if it's I guess at that time if we could have that come back to us. Uh um and we I'm sure we could inquire before the agenda goes out and maybe just have this as another agenda item on July 7th, I think it is, is our next meeting. So, I'd be in favor of that. Do would do Do we need a
motion? Our staff want a motion for that or I don't think so. So I think our staff are already all right already working in that direction. So that's it for that one. We will move forward. Next we have
is this eight? See there's a few people here for this one tonight. There's a lot to this one. This is the uh public hearing uh adopting a resolution for the 9inth street vacation final reading proposed ordinance 1584 reszoning St. Francis
school and church as well as the final and preliminary plat and the conditional use permit for 411 10th Street North. Um first I believe this is going to be James Cranic if you want to start us off. Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. Uh
city staff received a petition from St. Francis Catholic Church for the vacation of North Ninth Street from the intersections of Juniper Street to Ivy Street and North Brainard. In addition, St. Francis submitted a request for a preliminary plat final plat reszoning of 14 existing parcels from TN1 traditional
neighborhood one district into three new parcels zoned PSP public semi-public district. The applicant also applied for conditional use permits to allow for residential use for a rectory in the PSP district and to create a parcel less than 1 acre in the PSP district.
All of the land use requests are interconnected and cannot function individually unless all are approved. So staff included multiple contingencies within uh the recommended approvals. Purpose of these requests is for the expansion of the school, the construction of a new rectory and
potentially uh an expansion of the church in the future. A plan has been provided by the applicant and was included in the packet. Uh in order for the vacation of North N Street, two interior homes must be demolished. Uh St. Francis proposes a demolition of three homes for the construction of a
rectory that will have access from Juniper Street. The demolition of homes in the TN1, TN2, CN1, and CN2 districts are currently prohibited by city code without replacement of the units or by conditional use permit approved by city
council. Uh reszoning to an alternative district is also an option which St. Francis has proposed as part of this request. In addition, future expansion uh projects to the school and church uh if approved for the PSP district will not require conditional use permits uh
but will be subject to the regulations of the zoning code and city code. Uh currently in the TN1 district, which is what they are zoned, conditional use permits are required for expansions of schools and churches. Uh staff did include both reasons for and against the proposed project as related to the cons
comprehensive plan in the findings of fact. Uh the planning commission considered the land use request uh not the vacation itself and held a public hearing at their meeting on May 21st and recommended approval by a 4 to1 vote. And I'll have uh our city engineer
discuss the vacation request. Thank you James and uh councel. Uh so as James presented at the May 19th meeting, the council's presented with the petition for the vacation of Ninth Street, um which is in connection with the request for the replanting and resoning for the St. Francis proposed
project. So uh included with your packet is a prepared memo that summarizes staff's review of the vacation requests uh really from a street classification and use standpoint. Uh, as referenced in the agenda item, the memo includes staff's recommendation from an engineering standpoint, but council should weigh all the factors, uh,
including the findings that James al has also included, such as land use and zoning factors as well. Uh, ultimately, as staff has included in the agenda item, the statute states that it's council's responsibility to determine if vacation of the street appears in the interest of the public to do so. Uh, not that a request for vacation should
require a project, as there have been other rightaway vacations that have not required the owner to undertake a project. However, vacating the street would allow for the owner the ability to complete a project that would not have been able to be completed without a vacation. Uh so again referencing back that it is the council to determine
whether or not the vacating of the street would be in the public's interest. Uh so staff has included all of the attachments in the packet to indicate St. Francis's intent and plans for their improvement projects for the school and rectory uh to indicate to the council ahead of these requests. Uh so at this time staff is recommending the
following. Uh first holding the public hearing on the street vacation to hear public testimony for and against the request. Uh followed by holding the second and final reading of proposed ordinance 1584. Uh note that a vote to dispense with the actual reading must be unanimous. Uh next staff is recommending
discussion by the council regarding the request for the vacation plat and resoning as a whole uh in reference to the St. Francis request and project. Uh after that discussion, then staff's recommendation is to adopt the attached resolution that vacates a segment of North Ninth Street from Kingwood Street
to Ivy Street, uh retaining utility easements, and then James can run through the final three recommendations. Yes, thank you, Jesse. Uh so for the land use requests uh recommended approval of the preliminary and final plat with the listed contingencies. Recommend approval of proposed ordinance
1584 the resoning uh request to PSP district with the listed contingencies and also recommend approval of the cup requests with the listed contingencies by staff. Uh, city council can motion to approve the preliminary and final plat ordinance for the resoning to PSP and
the two conditional use permits in one motion with staff listed contingencies for approval. Uh, if the motion is to deny, each request must be denied individually with reasons. Um, certainly um approvals can go one by one as well. And with that, uh, staff can answer any questions.
Thank you, James and Jesse. Anybody have questions for staff? Nobody. We don't have any questions for staff. Mr. Mayor, go ahead. Yeah, I just because it was something that was brought to my attention just recently. On Ivy, we are we're shown on it's on
page 177. On Ivy, there's proposed diagonal parking on the north on the north. So, is this proposed to be a part of the street or is this proposed to be a part of the the
user land users? Jesse, this could be a a discussion between the council and the proposer. Um, this could be part of the developers agreement of who owns and operates it with it with it being part of the right of way. Um, ultimately it would be our
responsibility because everything within the right ofway is our responsibility, but it could be a shared maintenance agreement of uh who is ultimately responsible. Secondly, then who's in charge of paying for it when the street needs to be redone? That could be part of that agreement.
I have just one quick question of staff. On the westerly side of 8th Street, it appears that the bus drop off and pickup is removing the sidewalk. Is that correct? It's laid over the top of the sidewalk. That is not correct. We've clarified that with the applicant. Thank you. On
the west side of ETH? Yes. East side of ETH. West side of the project. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. That all Mr. Yep. Okay. Anyone else? Look like we don't have any more questions for staff. So, moving to the
next part of this item. We're going to open this up for a public hearing. if you want to speak for or against any part of this. Like I said, there's a lot to it. There's the the new ordinance, um the general plat um and the street vacation. Um the house is being removed and the
rectory. Uh if you want to speak for or against any of this, I'm going to open the public hearing. It's 8:10. Uh please come forward. Looks like we have Father Gary. Father Michael Gary, uh 416 North 9th Street. Thank you again
for having us. Uh and a special thanks to uh James and Jesse who've put a lot of work into this. We enjoy being in the city of Brainard, been here 150 years. Um as you know, this is part of a
overall master plan. Um we were aware that there are some uh hesitencies in the part of some council members for various reasons. Um and we're sensitive to those uh concerns. However, we see the uh certain things overriding those concerns. First
is just the safety of our kids crossing the street, which we do more uh regularly. Second, as far as the uh use of the or the tearing down of the three houses, we're sensitive to the housing uh needs in the area.
Um just three days ago, we had a new priest ordained for the Dasis of Duth. And uh two days ago, he asked me, "Hey, can I stay at the rectory?" And I said, 'Well, you can stay at the on the couch. Uh, he never stayed at the rectory. I'm assuming he found another couch, but
it's just another example which happens repeatedly. We have a seminarian, two priests there. Um, and so if you want to think of it this way, we own all three houses. If we didn't do anything, we could just use all three houses for the sake of the church because we need it.
We've examined the um possibility of remodeling or adding on or or those kind of things and the most uh best most responsible use of funds is just to rebuild a single unit for our
use. Um also as noted by Jesse, we we have plans for adding a high school to the neighborhood and that simply can't happen without the uh vacation of the street. We believe that the um public
use uh of vacating the street is evident. Um one our our playground which is I think used literally every night. Uh the basketball court in particular, we plan to use those and improve on those. We want to create a beautiful
space that would be available and accessible to the public. Um that's part of the uh grant that we received for the playground that it's available for the public. Um, and I'd also just add that as far as all the people that park on
9inth Street, uh, it's the school or the church. And so if you want to think of it this way, we are the public. And so we are using, if you're here for the church and in favor of the the motion, would you just raise your hand um just uh as a little evidence. Thank
you again for your consideration of this project. A lot of work has gone into it. If you have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer. Otherwise, I might just uh turn it over to Erica Marcusen from Woodsth who's assisting us in the process as well. Are you okay with the question, President? Yep. Go ahead.
Right now, you have a ball a baseball diamond, right? Okay. And that that you plan on keeping a baseball diamond? Uh yeah, it's I mean it's basically kickball. Uh Okay. But Right. Okay. So then and then you have basketball uh two two That's correct. Y Okay. I'm just
trying to think in in that in that where's the closest baseball diamond and where's the closest basketball hoops in Brainer to those? I don't think there's any Well, there's no baseball at Gregory Park or basketball hoops uh anywhere near there. Basketball at
Gregory Gregory. There is. Okay. I wasn't aware of that. Okay. Anyway, that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chzac. Does anybody else have questions for Father Gary? Looks like you're free. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Next up, just name and address. Erica
Marcus, architect at Woods. Um 7804 Industrial Park Road, Baxter. Um I also live in Brainer, so 415 Cedar Street, Brainer, Minnesota. Uh again, I want to thank you for the opportunity uh for allowing us to speak this evening. Uh
we've been in numerous meetings and we've taken the feedback that you've provided us and we're excited tonight to present the master plan that we have up on graphic up on the screen. Um I too want to reiterate from Woods standpoint um uh give a big thanks to the staff for
working with us. Um this is very complex as was mentioned earlier a very complex and um has many moving parts. Um currently the school uh the school has current and future needs obviously and I'm going to lay those out as briefly as possible. Um
currently uh as father mentioned we're looking to and I when I say we're I I'm also a parishioner so um the words will be used interchangeably. Um we're currently looking at expanding our uh educational offerings to high school uh
through high school. And so currently the school exists as a prek through 8th and we're going to be looking at expanding to prek through 12. That in to accomplish that we need to double in size. That not only doubles in size in enrollment but we also need to double in
size in space. Both interior and exterior um uh spaces need to be accom accommodating for the um educational environment which then equates to um why we're here. this evening is the need for the street
vacation. Um you'll see on the graphic uh that there are many site amenities. Um and as was just mentioned by father um you know the playground, the basketball uh court, the ball field, um those are amenities not only for the
school but for the neighborhood. And I appreciate um council member uh Chzek's uh item or mentioning that um the basketball and uh specifically the ball field um while basketball is offered at Gregory Park, the ball field is not. Um
and that's something that um we see regularly used by the neighborhood um kids and um and the neighbors uh in in the area. the MD we we as architects um tend or
lean on uh MDE, Minnesota Department of Education provides guidelines uh when we put together either a renovate a new school or build a new school and when we look at uh building a new school um a new K through 12 school the suggested
size uh of acreage that is um again it's guidelines and suggested is 35 to 40 acres Well, obviously we're in the city and um and we're looking to as a school continue to provide that um amenity and
be cognizant of the neighborhood and and realize the importance of that for this neighborhood. Neighborhood schools, as you are well aware, um are vital to the fabric of our communities. Um, this also by having these uh this
neighborhood school, it's supportive of the infill and redevelopment um that the city of Brainer has as a goal. Um, the proposed improve improvements would enhance the neighborhood while creating more jobs and bringing more people into
the air into that area of Brainard, which again equals uh more economic development. again a goal of the Brainer um city. We also have um I I would like to touch on a little bit about circulation.
There's been um some concerns expressed about um with the street vacation. There would be um a loss or um a mislink uh connection to the neighborhood um or within the neighborhood by vacating the street. Um I'd like to just kind of take
a step back from these exact um two blocks and just south of that uh there are proposed changes as most of you are probably aware uh to 210 and Washington Street coming up in that area in 2027 which would reconfigure current traffic
access from 210 onto 9inth Street um in turn reducing traffic entering North Brainard at this street. Um so as the um reconfiguration occurs, there'll be no left turn off of 210 in off off of 210 on 9inth Street. And again, as I
indicate, that would reduce uh traffic already um existing on that street. The vacation of Ninth Street adds safety. I can't reiterate enough um that by uh vacating this portion of the
street, it not only um will provide traffic calming measures for the residents that are adjacent to the street, but it also as well and has been mentioned in the past as well for parishioners and students, staff walking on that um uh walking to the church and
school. Um the graphic um shows just a broad overview on the south side of the two blocks on Juniper that's queued up for parent uh pickup and drop off. On the
west side uh there are that would be an inset and that's the bus pickup and drop off. Um it's uh sized accordingly for um we've taken an assessment of the needs of the quantity of busings that buses
that we would envision being um there and so that's uh queuing space enough for four buses. uh the inset as has been already clarified and I appreciate uh again the question on or the clarification on the intent is to uh
keep that sidewalk on the uh west side of the block or the west side of the school. Um the parking uh I'd like to touch on that briefly. the the parking uh I know was
expressed that um or indicated in previous meetings that uh please share with us how you propose to accommodate the lost parking. Um there are currently on 9inth Street um about 24 parking
spaces on street um uh I'm sorry the existing lot sorry the existing lot adjacent to the school houses 24 spaces. 9inth Street um has approximately 20 spaces. That obviously
is a net of 44. So that's our goal. Um the proposed lot uh with a little bit of reconfiguration uh with that block of space that we show could um have an adequacy for 36 parking spaces.
uh the parking along uh on the north side on Ivy the proposed diagonal parking that would be about 20 spaces. So between those two we have uh 56 spaces which gives us a net gain of 12 spaces from when uh when the existing
North 9th Street was in place or would be in place. The lastly, final and and most importantly, you know, the pedestrian circulation. Uh we too heard from previous meetings that um you know and and was our desire as a parish to
continue that connectivity from the north side of the block on Ivy down to the south side because we obviously will have parishioners or parents that will park on the north and on street parking um during various events and activities.
And so we still want to provide that connectivity and realize the importance of that not only for our use but also for the neighborhood use. So um with that I guess I just would like to thank you for your time and hope
that as you consider these requests you factor in the staff and planning commission's recommendations for approval along with the numerous letters and comments of support for this proposed master plan. And I guess if you have any questions, I'd be open to Thank
you. Does anybody have questions? Mr. Mayor, you talked briefly about parking. So, the proposed parking lot there says 36 spaces. Currently, you have 26 or so. 24. How is that going to work? So, it would be a different configuration um where we would do some
diagonal parking. Okay. And doesn't show any other parking on here, but are there plans for future parking? Because I'm assuming you're going to need more parking. So currently right now um the on-site parking along with the diagonal parking and then we also have that
existing parking that's south a parking lot that's south of the church um that is adequate for all of the staff when the school is fully enrolled. Obviously, the school won't immediately be um fully
enrolled and so there'll be a time where, you know, we'll work up to that. When we get to that point of being, you know, K through 12, preK through 12, uh and have full staff, we would, you know, the city ordinance is written as such where um we would be factoring in some
on street parking. um but would continue dialogue when we would come forward at that point in time of um the expansion and talk more about um the parking needed at that point. So there's no plans currently looking at what the the
additional parking would be. So I guess to as I indicated staff there's adequate quantity for staff. Um maybe to just help put it into perspective the high school part I'm assuming that maybe is what you're looking to understand better. Um, currently the layout is
proposing one section of 9 through 12th grade. And so 9th graders, they don't drive um or aren't of age yet to drive. So you have uh 10, 11, 12, and if you figure 20 students per um class, that would give us 60. Not everyone drives.
So we are figuring uh right now roughly 30 stalls or 30 cars. And so, you know, easily 30 cars could park on street in their surrounding neighborhood as we currently do with our church and school activities already existing. Okay. Thank
you. Any more questions, Mr. Johnson? Two observations. I mean, you used the term traffic calming and everybody loves to hear that, but just vacating a street and leaving Juniper the exact same as it is is not calming traffic. you're
actually encouraging people to drive faster because they they know there's no conflict coming at Juniper Street. So, we're not calming traffic even though the word the term sounds good. Everybody loves to hear it. But my main point, and I'm not an architect or an engineer, so
I'm just a person. I I appreciate that you tried to accommodate for the pedestrian connection, but again, not an architect, but people walk straight, right? Are you prepared for that? That people walk straight and the sidewalk
you're building over by the rectory is absolutely useless. Nobody's ever going to use it. They're going to go right over your field because people walk straight. You're prepared for that? Comfortable with that? Well, that's what's going to happen. I'm not There would be fencing, you know, and with most ball fields, um there's fencing
involved and so um I didn't see the fences in the Yep. So there would be um you know once we get into the this is again a master plan so we're not to that level of detail. So what type of fencing and gating are you are you seeing in the
master plan around the whole complex or walls or what do you you know it would be whatever the ordinance requests you know the requirements of the ordinance we would look to meet the intent of the ordinance currently right now around that ball field as it sits on the west
side or just north of the school um it has you know chain link fence which is typical of most baseball fields. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Does anybody have more questions? Joerger. Thank you. Just a quick uh
question about um I've I've heard you mention safety several different times. One of the one of the area one of the parts of my of concern of mine with this master plan is by vacating by by vacating the northbound northbound and southbound road, we are we would then be pushing
north and southbound traffic off to ETH and then of course the one road over. So Eighth Street is going hypothetically going to become much busier. It occurs to me that all of the buses are going to be stacked on right on 8th Street, nose totail. Buses are tall, boxy items you
can't see through. It also occurs to me that there's a pretty good chance there's going to be some pickup happening potentially on the opposite side of 8 Street. So just I'm wondering if you've thought through that 8th Street which will become much much busier will now have these buses stacked
up kids darting in between buses is one of the most dangerous situations with loading zones. This just seems like an extremely dangerous situation to stack those buses right on what is now going to become a much busier 8th street.
Thoughts? Um certainly. So um you know we'll continue to develop this as we further you know the the plan. This is a master plan. Um if we look at the safety factor um by having that inset we're
getting it's a boulevard street. Um you know there's a boulevard up the center of that street. And so, um, currently the I don't want to say an ordinance, but there is, um, a stip I I don't know the right appropriate term, but, um,
there's, um, I will just use the word rule. That's not the word I'm looking for right now, but, you know, we deter from having, um, parents picking up over in that location across the street. And so with this, we've looked at the fact
that the queueing on the days where there's the longest queue line, it um would allow for that to continue along the whole south end of the block. And then because of strategically placing that along the south, the queuing would then go up on to 10th Street um
providing that so that you would wouldn't have that crossing or that um temptation to be crossing between buses. It's an it's from it's an what I was looking for. It's an operational control thing. Understood. You're you're saying
that kids will not be cutting across 8th Street under any circumstance. Not where the buses are staffed. at the crosswalk. Yes. But not kids won't be cutting across the street whatsoever through the middle of the block through the buses. No. Okay.
More questions. Mr. Jagger? Nope. Anyone else? Uh, I got a qu um Mr. Chaz, Juniper and ETH are not That's not a four-way stop, is it? No, that's just east west, right? Correct. Correct. Okay. Kingwood is the four-way.
Okay. Yeah. All right, any more questions? Looks like you're free. Thank you. Next up. Welcome, sir. Just name and address first. Yeah. Hi, folks. My name is Alex Nland. I live at 501 North 9th Street.
You can even see my house right here, corner of uh 9inth and Ivy there. So, I don't think the impact of vacating 9inth Street is well understood. If the city were to consider moving forward with this request, I think some kind of study should be conducted to understand the impact. Uh I can tell you a lot of
traffic passes up and down that street every single day. Um completely removing the street, forcing it up 8th Street, forcing it around the other way. I think it would be a nightmare. Um I'm no fan of the proposed development in a residential neighborhood, speaking
towards the broader plan, but I'm also in favor of allowing folks to do as they wish with their property. But to that end, the road is public property built and maintained with our tax dollars. I believe it should continue to serve the function it was developed for. As a local resident impacted by this
decision, I'm asking you not to approve a vacation of 9inth Street. Um, and when I purchased my home, I certainly didn't want to purchase a home across the street from a parking lot. And if they get the street vacation and go through with this plan, I mean, I don't really like the idea of having diagonal parking
parking lot permanently outside of my my living room. So, yep. Thank you, sir. Yep. Anyone else? Hey, Chuck. Hey, guys. Was home uh working in the yard
listening to the hearing. All right. He's not playing. Name and address, please. And then uh Oh, sorry. Chuck Marone, 616 North Fourth Street. You could hear it though at home. Oh, yeah. I was listening on uh on YouTube. All right. We had And uh I think when we started talking about MDE standards, I
kind of like, oh gosh. Um I'm obviously a resident of this community and I feel like the first question that I have just in a big sense is when are we going to stop doing things to prioritize people who are driving in and
then you know trying to accommodate the people who live here and instead prioritize the people who live here and accommodate and I think graciously so the people who are driving in the
I'm very much against this proposal and I'm a member of this parish. I'm going to spend another century in purgatory because of that. But I I'm I'm not a fan of this and I've not been silent about that. Um, we are taking what is an old
historic neighborhood with a school and church and we are doing to it what we did to Harrison and Garfield and Lel. We're making them into a campus. I understand the idea. The Minnesota Department of Education standards for
school, the guideline says here's how much space you should have if you're building a brand new school. Those guidelines were developed in the 60s and 70s when they went and studied suburban schools way back in the day. They looked and they said, "Where are our highest performing schools? They're out in the
suburbs. Where are our least performing schools? They're in the middle of the city." And so what they did is they said, "All right, uh, the standards for new schools should be like our best schools, not like these." And what happened is we went and tore down a ton of urban schools. Here's the thing.
About 18 years ago, those guidelines were changed. Yes, there still is like the recommended standards, but there's a second path for urban schools. This is what was not talked about when we did Harrison. This is what was not talked about when we did L. There's a second set of standards. And they don't say
have 35 to 40 acres for a site like this. They say make it a neighborhood school. Work with what you have. When we look at the street out in front of the the the church between the church and the school, it's important for us to understand that the way we do public
safety in a city like Brainard is to have gritted streets. If you go to Baxter, you're going to have wide streets, sweeping culde-sacs, all this stuff. It it's designed to get a fire truck like quickly to where you're going because it's all deadends. In Brainer, you got narrow streets, tight streets,
cars parking along the side. It's messiness. It's complex. The way you actually provide public safety is give that fire truck many different ways to go. I come down this street. Ah, it's not wide enough. I turn. I go. As soon as you start closing streets, whether it's here, whether it's around our other
schools, whether it's at the hospital, what you do is you systematically start to devalue the public safety response. When we look at this plan, the idea that the only option we have to have a high school would not include, you know,
walking across the street to Franklin Junior High School where there's tons of classrooms available. That's where my office is. I know there's lots of room available. Be nice to try out a school there for a few years. the idea that there aren't options to build a rectory that doesn't include tearing down three
homes, of which we went through a long long period of time of writing an ordinance to make sure that those kind of things would not happen. The idea that we need uh neighborhood that we need campus style parking lots in the middle of the neighborhood. All of this goes against not only the spirit and
intent of our comp plan, but our actual ordinance and the way we've written these regulations to happen. Last thing on the vacation and then I I'm probably going to go back to my garden uh and prepare for purgatory. Um
when we do a vacation, it's not enough to say, does this harm the public or or does this street uh you know, after we vacate it still have a public function? Can we still have an easement underneath it? Can we still access things? If that's the case, I'll come and ask you to
vacate Fourth Street in front of my house. you're going to charge me an assessment when you try to redo it anyway. I'd rather control it myself and slow down cars and not have uh you know thing. I'll I'll gladly give you an easement for the sewer and the water. That's not the way that the state
statutes are written. That's not the burden that we have. The burden that we have is to say this serves no public purpose and clearly the street serves a public purpose. The unfortunate thing with how this whole thing has been done is that because the vacation is wrapped up in the preliminary plat because the
preliminary plat is wrapped up with the housing and the resoning, it all stands or fails as one. It should not have been done that way. We should have had this discussion on the vacation. We should have had the discussion on the housing. We should have settled those issues and then we should have spent time and energy working on a really good plan
that fit within a neighborhood in the city of Briner. Instead, we've done it opposite and we have this high stakes now conversation. I'm urging you to vote no on the vacation. I'm urging you to vote no on the resoning. And that will reset the preliminary plat. And then we can come back here and have a really good conversation about how we build a
neighborhood high school and a neighborhood rectory in a way that honors and respects the church and the neighborhood. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Come on up. I'm John Ericson. I live at 230 Chipoa
Street in Brainard and I have a home with my wife as well at 323 North 7th Street which is a block away from the gymnasium door at St. Francis in which I played as a kid. I'm here to support my colleague because
my former practice of law got into land use things. So I knew Chuck way back in time and I agree with him on everything that he said. And I want to add a few more things from my former perspective as a lawyer who
dealt with planning and zoning and development and all sorts of things like you're dealing with here tonight. I think you also have the the cart before the horse in many ways
here. U I think there's a fundamental defect in process which you can remedy by uh doing what Chuck said and that's deny things that are before you tonight each one of them
and go back to where it ought to be which would allow for the kind of planning process that Chuck is talking about and would more appropriately be the right process for what needs to
be accomplished there. Here's my concern. We have currently this land use occurring, not what I'm looking at, but what we have on the street now.
It's occurring in a traditional residential one. one, not two neighborhood, which is the entire North Side community. And that's the community that's been
there for more than 150 years. That's what it was, has been, and is. And a matter of fact, only three years ago, you did a massive look at
the zoning ordinances and the classifications and you called that neighborhood that that land use is in traditional residential one. That's what it is. what you did was very appropriate
and is being bypassed massively here and not allowing the opportunity to develop some of the nuances that Chuck is talking about and that some of your questions went to including street vacations
and as several other questions I have that have there's nothing before you on right now and that is there should be a cup a conditional use permitting process which is what's in the traditional residential
one zoning ordinance that applies to that land right now. what you have before you with the change of or a change of land use classification to the PSP
is to bypass all of the particularized planning that Chuck has talked about and that I support in order to get the right use of that land in what will still be the traditional
residential neighborhood. What you have done, if you approve the land use classification change, is what in times past was referred to as spot zoning. You're doing it just here. And if you do
it here, you've got four more churches. Four on the north side, just on the north side in that traditional residential one community.
And you will have set the precedent for every one of those churches to look at the same approach to things as what you would have allowed here instead of what it ought to be within that that community. The careful
identification of individual land use issues and the attempt to resolve them through conditioning the use. If you pass the ordinance that's involved here, you're permitting the use. it's permitted. That's the difference
between the conditional use and the permitted use. That's the ordinance change. That's massive in this situation and should not occur because it this requires nuance. It's not uncommon to have conditional
use permits. they typically get granted by the way and so it's very likely that the outcome will be favorable to the Catholic community but it will be a better outcome and I
want to add a few more words and then I'm going to sit down. If this gets approved as a PSP and you depart without if you depart from the traditional
traditional residential primary use for that area and that piece of land, you will have not only set the precedent for the other four churches, but also for Woodyear.
Whittier will they'll see what's happened here and they'll be interested in expanding as a permitted use, not having to go through a conditional use permitting process. Right now, that's a conditional use up there. It's it's a TR zone up
there, as is the case with the other four churches. Not only that, but look at the northeast corner. You see those three houses up there? They're outside the the U master plan
boundaries. That's an obvious target. If you own those properties, you maybe would be wanting to sell. And who are you going to sell to? You're going to sell to the parish. And what is the parish going to
do? I suspect that might even be where some parking might be going. But um there will be an expansion. What I'm getting at is an expansion of the the PSP, which is a permitted use for
public and semi-public entities. Now, this is a church operation, and I am a church-going person. I believe in the fundamental mission of the Catholic Church. Though I'm not
Catholic. I have represented many Catholics in my past and I know what Catholic Charities does in this whole world. It's incredible. But this is also in a terms of a land
use. This is a type of business operation. You have more people coming to that particular small area. That's all the traffic talk we have. But you have more people coming there into the TR1
zone. More people coming, more people going. You've got more uh Erica I think said something about commercial use. Well, yeah, she was I think putting it in a different context, but that's there's a commercial activity going on. There's
more employment there. And that's why the denser use, the more intensive use ought to be managed if it can be, which I suspect it can be, by a conditional use permitting process where you come to grips with each one of the issues.
I haven't heard until tonight and only briefly and only coming from the architect. I've read through what I can find in the public record and I don't see anything in the public record that tells me what's the projection for
numbers of students in the high school. I can see that we're doubling we're doubling the footprint of educational buildings there. Doubling that means doubling teachers, doubling
media people, all the support staff. What what are the counts? How many people are we dealing with? Are we going to have angle parking up there? Should we really talk about that on the north side? I think it's miserable myself. I was
angle parking tonight and I can't see when I back out thanks to people who have bigger SUVs than mine. Angle parking is a risk and that's on a relatively narrow street up there. Ivy, I certainly support the questions asked by Mr. Jagger
about and and I I will say that my eyes rolled a little bit. I don't know if anybody else's did, but buses along a major thoroughfare like 8th Street will be. It already is and it's going to be more so because 9inth would be closed off.
It's dangerous where you've got buses lined up quite apart from the kids darting in and out. Those buses are difficult to maneuver and they're they're intensely uh traffic issues on at the the timing of
the day twice a day at least. We haven't heard a word about programmatic things within the school itself. For example, all right, education, whatever that is, that's fine. But there will be other things beyond education.
They're sometimes called co-curriculars nowadays, but I suspect that most of you, certainly some of you who are older, let's say, would think of them as extracurriculars. It's the athletics.
It's boys sports and girls sports, varsity and B squad stuff in basketball in in terms of the gymnasium there. volleyball and perhaps other things that I can't
quite imagine here, but in the gym, which I suspect serves, but we don't know it because we can't see the planning process because we haven't heard about it. We haven't had a cup application that really tells us stuff. Orchestras, bands, choirs, those are
things that go with higher grades. the 10 9 10 12 11 12 that happens at the higher grades more so than with the kids in in K to 8. We're going to have more intensive use. We're going to have more parents coming, more uncles and aunts,
and they're not all just coming from the neighborhood. The intent, I'm sure, is to attract people into from Catholics in particular, maybe some others who are looking for a private school education from outside the neighborhood. Talk
about a neighborhood school, Chuck. It's, you know, I understand where you're coming from, but this is not a neighborhood school in the sense that it was when I walked to Whittier. That's the traditional sense of a neighborhood school. This is a
parishwide school and maybe more so than that we are bringing more people in not just to the school but to the extracurricular activities that will happen in the school as well. And where are they going to park? Parking is part of our life
today unfortunately. I question Mr. If we could I will finish I will finish. Thank you sir. Thank you. Uh I question the qu I question the count of how many high schoolers are going to be driving. I suspect that's higher than any of us think. And when we expand into other
activities, where are they parking in the neighborhood? They're going to be on the street more often than not. So, I hope that you will uh deny the applications here tonight. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Ericson.
Come on up. Just name and address, please. Beckan Island, 501 North 9th Street. So, um, my husband had talked and we are right on the corner of North and North and North 9th and Ivy. Um, so we already
get quite a bit of traffic just due to the school to the church. There's pickup. Um, it's not just the, you know, the school that's using North 9th. So, as previously mentioned, if um North Ninth Street is vacated, then that's
going to increase the traffic that's going down north north, I'm sorry, down Ivy. Um I also don't think that having buses pick up on on 8th is um a good idea considering that that's already a busy street. Um you can't see, it's a
two-way stop sign, so getting out onto that road, it's going to increase the traffic there. and then cutting from Ivy down to 10th. Just so I too am in opposition of vacating 9inth Street. Thank you.
Hi. Uh my name is Cole Wear, 413 North Fourth Street. Um I'll keep it brief. Uh my wife and I moved here with our family about two years ago and we've been absolutely thrilled to be in Brainer. It's been awesome. Thank you for everything y'all are doing. Uh we really love it. The thing we love the most
about it is St. Francis. Um it's been such a joy to be a part of that community and uh it's it's a big reason that motivated us to move to this area. I can think of a couple other families as well who've made a similar move uh because of the attractiveness of St.
Francis, everything that's going on there, the vision that uh Father Michael has laid out. I think a lot of those things are attracted to uh people moving into the area as well as like the the the established community as well. So, I just wanted to kind of share that
anecdote and urge you to vote for it. We'd all be thrilled. Thank you. Thank you, Kevin Denny. Uh 14657 Grand Oak Drive in Baxter. Um I'm not a St. Francis parishioner. I'm a member of St. Andrews Catholic Church. Um, we got our own
stuff going on over there. But, uh, from watching this from afar, from across the street, obviously St. Francis, um, you know, they've been doing a heck of a job obviously working with the city. Um, seems very well vetted. Obviously, really good questions today since not
not stuff that I wouldn't, you know, anticipate this team and working with the city and what everyone would handle and address and make sure that they're being very neighborly. Um to the last gentleman's point, yeah, he's absolutely right. Catholics, there ain't nobody that can mobilize like Catholics and hell yeah, we're going to bring people
in here and we're going to build up the school and we're going to do all this stuff. I mean, who wouldn't want that, right? Like this is an expanding faith, an expanding community, an expanding city. And that's just the reality of it. We can't stick back thinking this is some type of Mayberry, you know, where
nobody drives anymore. Um the reality is we are expanding. I would like to argue against the fact that every other church, every other school is going to be doing this because they're not going through the type of growth that the Catholic Church and in particular St. Francis of the Lake School is. Um, we had a gentleman just moved here from
Auburn, like lit literally from Auburn because he loves what's going on here. Holy Spirit's moving. God bless you all. Thank you, sir. Anybody else? Come on up, sir. Hello, my name is Cody Poster on 839 Bluff Avenue, right on the edge of uh
9inth Street there. And I'll just say for traffic wise, I avoid 9inth Street anyway when I come to town because there's always so much going on at the church anyways. So, either I take 10th or eighth. Thank you, sir.
Anybody else? There's anybody online? Press star three. Is there anyone on there? Max? No. I'll ask one more time. Come on up. Hi, I'm Melissa Poster and I live at 839
um Blle Avenue. It's the very top of the road there. I can see the church and the highway from my house. Um I was also the secretary at St. Francis for 3 years and I used to walk to work every day and we still walk to church every Sunday and for every church event that we have. And
um I was I am very very involved in our church and what goes on. And I can say that I walk that neighborhood every single day and the amount of times I've almost been hit on any given road has been hilarious. It's it's crazy. And
especially 9th Street is the absolute worst. Crossing at any of those intersections is dangerous and horrible. And I think of all of those kids. We have hundreds of kids that cross from St. Francis to go to church to daily mass. And I am so fearful that they are
going to get hit. They just will because someone's going to just plow through 9inth Street like they do every day. And it it is so terrifying to think of that. So, I am fully fully in favor of this
road closure for safety. Not for my own, but just for all the kids and all the family and especially our parishioners. We have so many elderly parishioners that are crossing those roads. We need to really think about safety and safety of what they're doing and how we're
operating. And this is a parish that grows daily. As someone who used to do the records and to welcome new families to our community, we have people from out of state coming. We have people from the cities who are just amazed at St.
Francis and they believe in St. Francis so much that they will move their whole entire families here and it's the most beautiful and amazing thing that you will ever see. So I fully support this. I fully support the mission of the Catholic Church and of St. Francis and
this is an awesome plan. So yeah, go St. Francis. Thank you guys so much. It was fun to be here. Thank you. Hi there. My name is Andrew Schindler. I'm at 302 Bluff Avenue. I also just wanted to voice my support for the
project. Um I won't get too into things, but I I too am a transplant who came up just about a year ago with my um wife and two children under two. Um St. Francis has been just an incredibly welcoming community. I remember, you know, it's something that really attracted us to the area. We do have
some family here and then we'd come up to the lake as many people do throughout the summer and so we would on Sundays we go to mass at St. Francis and um Father Michael was always super accommodating. Father Matt, I remember specifically I had been coming throughout the summer
and you know he approached me after my said, "Hey Shin," like my nickname that my that my in-laws, it just felt like such a familiar home and community and um as my wife and I were thinking of where we wanted to raise our children. We were lived in St. Paul forever. Um it
was just such an attractive place. So, we love to see, you know, the perspective of growth. Like, as you know, someone who's attended Catholic High School, you know, we take um, you know, a lot of stake in where we want to send our kids to school. Um, and we just don't have as many options up here. So,
the prospect of that being an option for our kids, you know, way down the road is is very beautiful. Um, and I just also wanted to really briefly encourage I know there's a lot that goes into this and when you look at a plan like this, you know, we're asking a lot of, you
know, questions that are like very warranted, like it's the job of the council to represent the constituents to dig into these things. Um, but I mean I've worked in education in my previous roles, both Catholic and non-atholic, and it's really hard to predict
everything that's going to happen, enrollment numbers, that kind of thing. Like, we can talk about our our caps of one section and whatnot. Um, but just, you know, trying to have a nitty-gritty number of however many people we think
in however many years it's going to be enrolled is just kind of, you know, it's just something I I see that I see the amount of work that the parish has put into this. Um, and as of course a nonprofit entity, it's, you know, you have limited resources and you're and they're really trying to do something
good and beautiful here. Um, and I think if you take just a step back from some of the nitty-gritty, which is important, and just look at what are we overall trying to accomplish here. Um, yes, in some ways it's a a business, but it's not a very lucrative one. I mean, it's
um, you know, there's a lot there's a lot that goes into it and really St. Francis is supposed to be there for the community members and as it continues to grow. I just voice my support for this because I think we're moving towards something good, true, and beautiful
versus something that's a big scary project that is going to completely ruin a neighborhood. So, thank you. Thank you. Come on up. Hi, Luca O'Reilly, 1223 Rosewood Street, Brainer. Um, I've been Catholic my whole
life. My family is not St. Francis parishioners, but I've gone to a lot of Catholic churches um throughout Minnesota and even New York, all over the place. And St. Francis has shown by far the most growth of any of the
churches that I've seen. And from my perspective, the growth at St. Francis will happen. And so a lot of people were raising issues of fearing about the parking and drawing more people. The growth is going to happen. More people are going to come to
that area regardless of whether this project is permitted. And I'm just thinking that this project allows us to start thinking about these things that are happening that will happen. Pe more people are going to start parking there.
So we need to start accommodating to that the best we can because from my perspective like I think it's inevitable that growth will happen at that church. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else?
Another one more. All right. Hello. My name is Sam Gilude. I am a resident of Brainard. Live at 905 Bluff Avenue. Um, we are parishioners at St. Francis and our kids attend school there. Um, unsurprisingly, I fully support this
project and I think it's a clear net win for the community. Um, I think a strong faith community is par paramount to a flourishing North Brainard. Um, as proof of that, the master plan my wife and I had was to start in our small home in North Brainard and once we outgrew it,
um, moved north to Nisa to be closer to the in-laws. Um, and as we've grown in our faith and under the guidance of Father Michael and our children have um like flourished under the guidance of of Mrs. Nagel at the school, um we fully
intend to stay in North Brainard and look for a larger home and and stay here. It's the literally the reason that we are staying here. Um and you know, I I know that a lot of the other small families, there's a lot of other small families and growing families in the area, um like Cole and Andrew and Melissa and Cody who have already
spoken. Um, I do want to just call out too, I've heard points mentioned when talking against this, speaking that we need to do what's best for the community. Um, and I think that everybody that has gotten up here speaking for it, there's clear indication there's a lot of families, uh, growing families in the community,
um, that are also parishioners at at St. Francis and and very much support this master plan. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anybody else? Still nobody online, Max.
All right, we'll ask one more time if there's anybody that wants to come up, please do so now. That we will close the public hearing. It is 9:03. Okay. So, next
we have quite a few steps to get through this one. Step two would be to conduct the final reading of the propo proposed ordinance 1584 and dispense with the actual reading. So move Johnson. Second. Note
that a vote to dispense with the actual reading of the ordinance must be unanimous. So we have a motion by Johnson, second by Bevans. Any discussion? No discussion.
All right. All those in favor, please say I. I. I. Against. Same sign. That motion passes. Next, we're moving on to the staff recommendation of the adopt adoption adoption of the attached resolution.
I haven't talked in a while. I got to stretch my mouth muscles out a little bit. Um, the attached resolution in which vacates the segment of North 9th Street while reserving utility easements. So move Johnson second. Motion by Johnson, second by Bevans.
Do we have any discussion on this? Really? Okay. This is a resolution. Okay, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, I'm going to speak against it. Just I'm going to be consistent. I have I have fought against vacating streets every single time that they've
come up. And I I hate to do it because I love the project and I love what you guys are doing, but there are members that came up and spoke that I think very strongly of. Chuck is one of them. And I I'm going to push back a little bit on
this idea that our streets are unsafe. Specifically this street. I live on this street. I live a block away from this. I live right on Ninth Street. Ninth Street is safe. North Brainard Streets are safe. We put in sidewalks. We put in calming measures. We try to take care of our streets. Every time that I hear
someone come up and speak about the safety of our streets, I get a little angry because these are the streets we have. These are the streets that we that we take care of on a daily basis and these are the streets that Brainard is built on. And the grid system is is a
safe street or a safe system. I I do have very very big concerns about what happens if we vacate this street and push traffic to eighth, push traffic to 10th. concerns about there being a hill right at the right at the end of tenth at ivy.
I it just to me puts us in a position where we are doing the things that I have consistently spoke against. And so although I support the project and although I support what you guys want to do, I'm going to be consistent for myself and I'm going to continue to say that this is exactly why I don't believe
in vacating streets. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Anyone else? Mr. Jagger. Thank you, Mr. O day I'll I will be u exhibiting the same consistency. I've spoken against this project uh not because of the
the merits or the virtues of the Catholic Church in St. Francis. I've been very clear all along that I fully support the church. I fully support the growth. I fully support the expansion. I fully support everything that your your
entity does for this community and appreciate that you exist here. It's fantastic. Uklitian design says churches belong in neighborhoods. I I fully fully acknowledge that and and believe that to my court that that is the case.
Uklitian zoning also says we have to be very very careful with spot zoning. Spot zoning is a high-risisk enterprise. In the short term, small impact. Spot zoning over decades dismantles a city from within.
If you spot zone a city for long enough, you end up with residences 20 feet away from industrial use. You end up with homes in commercial zones. You end up with commercial uses trying to be in residential zones. It's exactly what we have here. This is the exact guiding
enterprise of why ukitian zoning exists. It's because commercial uses over time have a tendency to grow. If they grow in a in a responsible fashion, that's one thing. when they grow by gobbling up the surrounding zone, that's a that's a
completely different story. Whenever I'm looking at a zoning at at a zoning change that comes in front of me, whether as I'm a petitioner, which I do from time to time, or sitting here looking at a zoning, I ask myself one quick question to help me get the temperature of whether or not the zoning
is a good choice. Who who does it benefit? At the planning commission meeting, St. Francis Church was asked the exact same question and the response was, "We're asking for this zoning because it's a good fit for us. I don't disagree with you. It is absolutely 100% a good fit
for you to change this zoning. It allows you to get around the demolition of the houses. It allows you to perform in the future without conditions. No questions. It's a good fit for you." I'm struggling with how it's a good fit for the remainder of North Brard. That's what I
cannot wrap my head around. what how this zoning helps them. So, I'm against the zoning. I'll be so I'll be voting against this. I have a lot of other concerns about this project, but I'm just going to summarize one one other thing, and that is is that the the mayor some time ago
placed me on the housing redevelopment authority. It's a group of humble people who fight tooth and nail every single day to build one house in this city with incredible resistance. There's no way I can sit on this dis in two two weeks from now and look those people in the
face when I have signed on to tear down three houses in this city like that. I won't do it. I will be consistent. Any project that comes in front of me that involves the net loss of houses, whether you're a church, a hospital, a YMCA, does not matter. I will vote against
you. Period. That's all. Thank you, Mr. Jagger. Mr. Johnson. Yeah, I feel feel like I'll address that. I am not being consistent because I'm generally against street vacations. I did change my mind
on this one. Initially I was I was apprehensive. I am supporting it now. And basically generally because we gave the public schools in the neighborhoods the same accommodation and there's no reason we should say sorry private
schools you can't have that too. I see you're growing, but sorry, we're not going to allow that. Even though we allow other schools to do that. So, I think if this is how they see they want to grow their school, we did it for other schools. We should we should also allow it for St. Francis school.
Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Mr. Ericson, I'm going to support the motion. Um, I know for a fact the entirety of the north uh side neighborhood is not zoned T1. I know we have some T2 uh TN2 mixed in there as well. Um, in fact, the uh I did a little
digging. I went, it's actually on our website. You can look back um on the original plat for the city. This block was originally set aside for educational use. Um when when our townships were established, um all 36 sections of every township was
always set aside for educational use. And of course, that's a township, the city. But again went back and looked at the original plat uh 18 I whatever the year was 18 in the 1800s. This block was set aside for um
educational use. And so I and I understand there's a lot of development pressure uh in this neighborhood um particularly the the residential homes. But with given that um the original intent was for education, you
could argue that the homes have encroached on that purpose on that original purpose. Um and then when we talk about safety, whether you're you think it's unsafe or you think it is safe, I'm going to say I mean we've done safe routes to school
plans for I'm going to say all the other schools in the uh in the in the community. And so we just don't know because I don't believe we've done a safe route to school plan for um for this school. So regarding safety and they are low volume
roads all in those neighborhoods and there are many alternatives, many alternative routes. Um so we've done safe routes to school plans for the other elementary schools including the high school. We haven't done one for this school. So
in terms of safety on both sides of that issue, we just don't know because we haven't looked at it. Um, this is good for the community. I heard, you know, suppositions that this would bring uh people to the community, have economic development, bring some uh
cultural enrichment. Um, you know, god forbid we bring an orchestra uh to North Brainer. So, I think this is good. Good for the community and I'm going to support it. Thank you, Mr. Ericson. Sunnick, you're looking at me like you had something to say. I'm good. You're
good. Okay. Anyone else? This stuff is Go ahead, Mr. Chzach. Um I um I get a little um and I guess I'm not
picking on you, Mr. Joerger, but this reluctance to uh take a house or two from a neighborhood. Um, I was speaking out like the dickens
against what the school district was doing in 2018. I came to you guys about a street vacation over by Riverside. I pointed out how it seemed like the school district was acting in secret about keeping things on a down low.
Anybody remember that? And uh that was on a recording if you all recall. And the whole purpose of that was to vacate a street over by Riverside. So that was done. Um the houses Garfield, I'm sorry, Harrison, LOL. Um
I'm not sure if Riverside had I think they did. Uh 17 in total if I'm not mistaken. And and I like we're looking at you know where's the where's the uh where's the where's the property tax revenue from those homes going? Nowhere.
None. it goes bye-bye. So, and I understand, you know, H the concern about housing in Brainer is at a premium and as the uh uh as it was stated, um they could use those homes. They're
they're not going to be essentially for public use. They're going to be for essentially the church's use. So, what have we accomplished? I I just don't see the sky falling because a couple of homes are taken out of circulation for uh the use by people to live there
because we have now a larger rectory in use which you want to talk use there it is. So I will be supporting this. I like what uh Mr. uh Ericson said about the benefit and um that's where I'm at.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chzach, anybody else? This is uh not an easy thing to do here. It it it's not as easy as it might be or might seem to everybody that's sitting out here, but we're trying to keep as
many people happy as possible throughout the entire city. And it's not it's it's a it's completely impossible is what it is. But you have to you have to weigh the good with the bad. Um I've lived on this
street. I've lived in the mayor's house. Not when he lived there. You love some stuff. You left some stuff behind. I probably did. I actually lived in at 905 Bluff Avenue when I was a kid as well. Uh I know this neighborhood very well and I understand the concerns that have
been brought up 100%. I do. I I don't like to see change in the neighborhood I grew up in all that much either. Um I don't like knocking down houses. Uh but those things they do tend to happen over time and we have to allow certain
businesses and organiz organizations to grow within our city. So I see the need. Um most what I'm most frustrated with about this one is the process. I think that was brought up by Mr. Ericson.
I don't I don't like the process that we went through with this one either. I really don't. So, if this doesn't if this doesn't pass, I just I want everyone from St. Francis to know that there's still a path forward. If it does pass, hopefully all the concerns that have been brought up here tonight have
been listened to and as we move forward in this project, they're taken care of. Um, I have faith in that that this is a group that can take care of those. I generally lean towards supporting
uh in this instance. I hope it doesn't become a trend, especially in this neighborhood or any of our other grid neighborhoods. I don't think we should continue to vacate blocks of streets. But when it does make sense in one area, if it makes
sense, it makes sense. We take those on a case-byase basis. A month ago, two months ago, I would have said no. I think I did say no. Now, today, I see where this plan is coming together, and I am leaning towards supporting it. Um,
that's where I'm at. Mr. Mayor, do you have some comments? I I have more of a question. So, Jesse, you had said that the like the diagonal parking and stuff would have to be a part of the agreement. So, when does that go into place? because we approved this. Does
that is that just all taken care of as shown or whatever? What because none of that stuff is in here? So, uh the approval uh with staff's recommendation would be contingent upon an executed development agreement and uh we'd be working with our city attorney on that and um whether it be a final approval at
the next meeting or kind of a draft review um I guess would be yet to be seen, but it would be discussed at the next meeting. So, that stuff comes back to the council. Just to be clear, the master plan is not binding in any way. Correct. It is not. So another question if I could Mr. Ch.
So the development agreement will be coming back and that's where we can place u u our requirements of maintenance of that say that diagonal parking and such that type of thing right that's correct and certainly the comments um from council night would be
potentially helpful in creating that potentially what if approved would be potentially helpful in creating that uh development agreement. the comments made by council tonight. Okay. Anyone else?
Tony? Chzac? Yes. Johnson? Yes. Stunn? Yes. Jagger? Nope. Ericson? Yes. Bevans? Yes. OD? Yes. And that passes. Next, we're moving on to number four. It looks like this is a
recommendation of approval of the preliminary and final plat contingent upon the following conditions. One is approval of the vacation of North 9th Street between Ivy Street and Juniper Street. Two is approval of the ordinance 1584.
Three is the exe executed uh development agreement between St. Francis and city of Brainard. Number four is approval of the cup to create a parcel under 1 acre in the PSP district. Move approval. Second, Johnson.
Motion by Johnson or Chzach. Second by Johnson. Johnson. Uh I I support the motion. Uh I think last motion was only about a vacation, but we all pretty much covered everything we had to say about everything here. So the next four should
just fly right by. Right, Mr. We'll see. All right. I hope they do. Well, you just made it not happen that way. No. Mr. Chazock, did you have something? Not after that. Okay, perfect. I believe this is a voice vote. So, if
there's no more discussion, all those in favor? I against same sign. One against. That motion passes. Moving on. Number five, we have a recommended recommended approval of the proposed ordinance 1584, an ordinance amending
the zoning map and zoning code contingent upon the following conditions. One is the approval of the preliminary and fi final plat. Two is the approval of the cup request to create a parcel less than one acre in
the PSP district. So move Johnson. Second motion Johnson, second Ericson. More discussion. No discussion. Tony Chzac, yes. Johnson, yunick, yes.
Jagger, no. Ericson, yes. Beans, yes. OD, yes. That one passes. Finally, we have number six. This is a recommended approval of the cup requests is to construct a rectory on its own parcel under one acre in the PSP
district for residential use in the PSP district contingent upon the following conditions. Approval of the preliminary and final plat. Move approval Johnson. Second. Motion by Johnson. Second by Chzach. No discussion.
Tony. Chzach. Yes. Johnson. Stunn. Yes. Jagger. No. Ericson. Yes. Beans. Yes. OD. Yes. Those are all approved. That brings us to the end of that item. If you're here for just that item. If you
want to stick around and watch the rest of the show, that's fine, too. But if not, I'll give you a couple minutes to clear the room. Thank you. At two, Paul, you waited at two. You waited too long. But I don't know if you ever s
new testimony, any new information to present to the What was going on? I almost kicked you in the shin. I was enjoying it. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah, it could have gone a little longer. Yeah, right. You haven't said one word tonight. What's going on? No, I
don't. I'm on a schedule. I should be at chef's office. I probably will. We started these at like I've been pushing, we'd be done by now and you'd have been there or just had them at chefs. All right, point of order. Let's go. 8 D. We have a final reading.
Proposed ordinance 1585 auto dealerships outdoor service sale and rental and definition of a budding. You guys ready? Okay. I'm not going to repeat it. So, we'll just let this go to James Cranic. Thank you, Mr. President. So, at the
April 7th city council meeting, the council directed the planning commission to consider an ordinance to remove screening requirements from outdoor sales areas. Uh the planning commission directed staff to amend some additional language as well and unanimously recommended approval of the ordinance. Uh screening would still be required for
residential and collector streets but not for arterial streets or highways. Uh so with that staff recommends to conduct the final reading of proposed ordinance 1585 and dispense with the actual reading and to approve proposed ordinance 1585. And I can answer any questions. Thank you Mr. Kramick. Does
anybody have questions regarding this one for Mr. Kravick? No. All right. Then we're looking for a motion to conduct the final reading of proposed ordinance 1585 and dispense with the actual reading. So move Ericson.
Second. Motion. Ericson. Second. Stunn. Stick. Any discussion? Get your name in the See none. Let's go to a vote. All those in favor say I. I. Against. Same sign. Motion passes. Next. We're looking for approval of the proposed ordinance
1585. So move Ericson. Motion Ericson. Second. Second. Chzach. Any discussion? Seeing none. Tony. Chzach. Yes. Johnson. Yep. Stunn. Yes. Jagger. Yes. Ericson. Yes. Evans. Yes. OD. Yes. That ordinance
has passed. Next, we're moving on to the final reading of proposed ordinance 1587, off streetet parking service surfaces. James Cranic. Thank you, Mr. President. Currently, all new multif family and non-residential driveways and parking areas must consist of concrete,
asphalt, or pavers. Uh, proposed ordinance 1587 would allow for unimproved surfaces such as class 5 in the general industrial district in the rear yard. Um, and also park zone properties. Uh, planning commission held the public hearing and unanimously recommended approval of the ordinance.
So, with that, staff recommends to conduct the final reading of proposed ordinance 1587 and dispense with the actual reading and approve proposed ordinance 1587. and I can answer any questions. Thank you, James. Anybody have questions? Seeing none, we're looking for a motion
to conduct the final reading of proposed ordinance 1587 and dispense with the actual reading. So move Bevans. Second. Motion Bevans. Second. Ericson. Discussion. Seeing none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Against. Same sign. That
motion passes. Next, we're looking for a motion to approve proposed ordinance 1587. So move Bevans. Second. Motion Bevans. Second. Chzach. Any discussion? Tony. Chzach. Yes. Johnson. Yes. Stunn.
Yes. Jagger. Yes. Ericson. Yes. Beans. Yes. OD. Yes. That ordinance is passed. Moving on to number nine. This is new business 9A. We have a resolution to approve plans, specifications, and authorize
advertisements for improvement 2314 Hawkins Ronald Joseph re resurfacing project. I believe this is public works director Mike Abigor. Thank you, Mr. President. Attached to this request is a resolution that approves the plans and specifications and authorized
advertisement for bids for the approvement 2314 Hawkins Ronald Joseph resurfacing project. And uh this project includes the following streets. Hopkins, Joseph, Ronald Alley between 6th and 7th Street and Paul Street to Joseph Street.
The project also includes replacement of fire hydrants on on um Hawkins Drive, replacement of water mane and water services under Joseph Street and from the alley from Paul to Joseph Street. Attached to this item is also the
engineer's estimate and cover sheet for the plans. A current estimate including engineering costs and contingency is a total of 1 million42,500. This is the fourth time that you've seen this project and now we are ready to go to bid and staff is recommending adopting this attached resolution
improving the plans and spec specifications and ordering advertisement and bids for this improvement. Thank you, Mr. Havagarst. Anybody have questions for staff? No questions for staff. We're looking for a motion to adopt the attached res
resolution approving plans and specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for improvement 2314. So move Ericson. Motion Ericson. Beaven second. Beavenons. Any more discussion?
Tony. Chzac. Yes. Johnson. Yes. Stunn. Yes. Jagger. Yes. Ericson. Yes. Beans. Yes. OD. Yes. That resolution passes. 9B. We have uh another resolution to award a bid for improvement 23 or 2113 Beach
Oakidge Reconstruction. Mr. Haborst. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. President. Uh this we opened the bids on Thursday, June 5th and the pro the projects uh was under bid and this is the f the last and the fifth and the last uh pro time that
you'll see this. We're going to be um uh we're recommending adopting this uh DAP resolution which accepts a bids and awards the contract to lander construction in the total contract amount for 2,9 97,513.32
and authorize proper signatures on the agreement documents. Thank you, Mr. Habigor. Anybody have questions for staff? It's always good to see a bid come in 14% under, especially one that's this big of a project. So, this is great. Do we have a motion to
So, I'll move Johnson. Adopt the attached resolution. Second, Bevvens. All right. Motion by Johnson, second by Bevans. Any discussion? Guys, there being none. Tony Chzox, yes. Johnson, yes. Stunn. Yes. Jagger, yes. Ericson,
yes. Beans, yes. OD, yes. That resolution passes. 9C. We have a consideration of a letter of intent for River Birch Investments on TC Drive. James Cranic. Go ahead. Thank you, Mr. President. Uh, the city and EDA received
a formal letter of intent from River Birch Investments, uh, which is partnered with Central Minnesota Dermatology, an existing local dermatology business. They are interested in the $1 per acre incentive program which would allow them to build and develop a new dermatology clinic on
lots one, two, and potentially future uh lot and potentially lot three in the future. Uh in the industrial park, the EDA considered this request at their June 5th meeting and were in favor of the proposed project. Uh discussion did occur at the meeting regarding the inclusion of lot 3 in the purchase
agreement as this lot would remain undeveloped uh until another building is feasible. So, they're looking at a potential another building for those lots. Uh, the EDA discussed options on a remedy for the PDA, but did not make a formal motion uh for what that language would look like. Uh, the EDA did motion
and approve staff to begin negotiations on a purchase and development agreement. Uh, we certainly include some of that language that was discussed. In addition, the EDA motioned and approved that they are in support of the zoning change to allow office business clinics in the general industrial zoning district. Um, currently not allowed uh
in that district. Uh this will be reviewed at this week's planning commission meeting and they will be holding a public hearing. Uh so with that, staff recommends the city council direct staff and the EDA to begin negotiations uh with uh River Birch Investments on a purchase and development agreement for the proposed
lots. Thank you, Mr. Cranic. Mr. Johnson, go ahead. Thank Thank you. Just one question. Where is Central Minnesota Dermatology currently located? It's on South Sixth Street. I don't have the exact address. You know what its neighbors are?
I do not. I believe it may be near the warming bank warming shelter. Okay. Thank you. It's in that little strip. Mr. Chzing for Yeah. I um believe there was a discussion at ADA about the lot.
You call it lot number three. Is that what it's referred to? The one they're not developing but they'd like to get for a dollar. Um, and there was something mentioned about perhaps in 10 years if that isn't developed, uh, that then go back to a full purchase price if
they do want it in the future. Is that what I read? Something to that effect. Yeah, potentially that language looks like either it would be full purchase price um, at the time of this agreement or certainly could be still worked out what that purchase price would look like and then the other option would be to
give it back to the city. Okay. Um so as far as and so this is entirely an EDA decision then however this development agreement is created right so thought process uh they would like you um some feedback obviously from the EDA and city
council on this to move forward um when you are looking at an incentive program like this there's a $10,000 down payment that would be a we'd be able to then initiate our consultants on the purchase and development agreement I kind of envision this getting a draft um in front of council and then at that point council would have to convey these
properties to the EDA. So there still be some, you know, review by council on it, but once it is conveyed, then it is an EDA decision. Okay. So to specific to lot number three, then um if the EDA agreed, they said, "Okay, we'll we'll
accept your $10,000. It's yours to develop however you wish unless we put a time limit on that." And that's where it could either get turned back to the city or purchased or whatever. And that's how I understand that discussion went or perhaps might be agreed upon in a
purchase development agreement. I my only thing was I I thought that those all seem to be a a fair reasonable u expectation or agreement um point but if we're going to allow them 10 years I I don't was that number just arbitrary?
Was there some specific reason for that tenure? Because I I I think it should be a shorter time frame. So, I did talk with our realer on that one. Um, obviously going through this process, you're going through the purchase and development agreement. They are hoping to potentially break ground this fall. Um, if they get all the approvals and
you're looking at construction timelines for that and then also kind of getting everything fully staffed and operational in the first building. So, you could be looking at two to three years on that. Um, so to put, you know, say a fiveyear window right away into that for the next building might be a little um a little
premature, but you know, maybe somewhere in that 8 to 10 range would be applicable. Um, certainly what that final number looks like hasn't been um ironed out by the EDA in that purchase and development agreement, but certainly comments from council can be considered
tonight. Okay, that's I I yeah, I would just like to see it um less than 10 somewhere like you maybe mentioned around that eight year mark, but it's all I got. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jagger. Well, I was just going to mention a little bit on the time frame. So, what Mr. Cranic mentioned was the ramp up time at the beginning, but
there's also a ramp up time at the end to meet the performance of construction. So, when the EDA spoke about it, Mr. Chzach, we were actually calculating kind of two years in the front, two years in the back. actually only gives them about a six-year window of performance in the middle to to to act upon it. So that that was kind of the
mindset. You Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah. I just want to speak briefly about the idea of having non-indust industrial uses in industrial. I I'm fine with it. However, just remember you're in an industrial park and I don't know if we
remember or not, but industrial parks are noisy. So, I just want to make sure that people that are going to use this are going to remember that industrial parks are noisy. So, when that happens and your neighbor's noisy,
I support your neighbor being noisy in industrial. I just want to be on the record for that. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Always a pleasure. Anyone else? Public record. You should know him well when you sleep with them.
That did not happen. Hey, for the record. All right. Wow. You guys brought it up. They live together. Shared a house. Do you know where you're at right now, Mr. Stunic?
Yeah. Okay, good. All right. So, we are looking just for for general direction to motion for for staff to start these negotiations and then that that will eventually come back. So moved or that second.
Okay. For all three lots we're talking. Yep. Move. Okay. Yep. All right. Any more discussion on that? Hearing none. Let's go to a vote. All in favor? I against. Same sign. Motion passes. All right.
Moving on to staff reports. Start with Tony. Nothing. Nothing. Chief Davis. Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. As you I'm sure you're well aware that uh on Saturday we had quite a significantly large political demonstration along Washington Street. Um I'm confident the
the participant numbers exceeded a thousand. There are some reports of um upwards of 2,000 individuals. Uh prior to the event, we had communicated with the local organizers, had the ability to share um some of our concerns that go
along with such a large event along such a a busy roadway. And um they uh really worked well with us to help kind of monitor and alleviate some of those concerns. And um the event u went real well u despite just a few um minor
incidents. Um, all in all, it was a very uh safe and I'd like to say peaceful uh demonstration. Thank you. Thank you. Did they call you the king? No. No kings. Thank you, chief, for your work on that. Uh, obviously those can
get out of control very quickly for almost little to no reason. So, good work there by our our police staff and by everybody that participated. So, thank you. Uh, let's go move on to CLC's Max Hen. Would you like to add anything
tonight? All right. I'm going to give you the opportunity pretty much every time if you think of something. Connie Helman, nothing to add. All right. Mike Hagor, nothing to add. Thank you. James Cranic. Couple items here as so I was able to attend the groundbreaking ceremony for Country Manor last week.
Excited to announce that the project is underway. uh which is the 106 unit senior living facility with with the attached childcare center um to that building. Also, a few updates from the last EDA meeting. The EDA preliminarily approved a contri contribution of $30,000 towards the Washington Street
mitigation budget to help businesses uh but will need final review uh proposed by the proposed by the chamber and Bladec. And also the EDA board directed staff to create a policy that would potentially wave $450,000 in valuation costs towards building permits for
commercial childcare centers and licensed inhome daycarees after touring local childare centers in our community. Uh staff will create a policy for review at the September meeting and any recommendation from the EDA will need city council approval. And that's everything. Thank you Mr. Kravick. Joel
Angel. Nothing from me. Chris Schubert. Jesse Dean. I will defer my time to Mr. Eric Sharper. Good cuz I probably would have forgot. Eric Sharper. Eric. Thank you, Jesse. And nothing to add. A
Nick Broyals. No, sir. Nothing to add. All right. Council reports. Mr. Stunick. Well, let me No, I got nothing to add. Okay. Forgot the mayor. Oh, Mr. Mayor, do you want to say something? Yeah, it's right there in Mayor's reports. It's number 11. Oh, I wasn't looking.
Listen. Listen, folks. We have three truths tonight. Truth number one, our streets are safe. Truth number two, industrial zones are noisy. Truth number three, the Brainer Lions are pretty flipping sweet. End of
report. Thank you for keeping it short. Chazak, no. Not the Mr. Beaven. Uh, just to pile on to Mr. Kravik, as much as we spent on the St. Francis project this evening. As
excited as we are for that, the Country Manor project also is underway. So, I want to make sure that uh you all realize how big that is in W 2. Thank you. Out on Beaver Dam. Thank you. Should be done in a week, right, James?
Jagger. Uh thank you. Uh Country Manor, great uh great s great food by the way. Excellent food out there. So, um, I just wanted to say that you can welcome those guys and super excited to finally be underway there. Uh, real quick airport update. Last week, we welcomed in our interim director. His name is Neil
Planzer. He's a unbelievable human being. We're super super duper lucky and excited to have him. Um, he'll be guiding us through what I'm sure will be a very busy time as we begin to prepare the search for our long-term director as he is uh interim only. But, uh, amazing
human being. If you happen to run into him out the airport, uh, shake his hand. He's a very, very nice fellow and his wife brought escorted him out here. She's a very nice lady also. So, we're excited to have him. So, future's bright out there. Excellent. What does he look like? He's tall. You wouldn't recognize
him. Chairman Johnson. Uh, just one thing. Since we're not meeting till July 7th, I would like to invite everybody to the uh the uh 4th of July capital of the world celebration, an American celebration happening in Brainard on the 4th of July
as well as the always wonderful arts in the park taking place at Gregory Park. Uh I somebody said it was June 29th. June 29th. Okay, that's what I hear. I invite everybody to join me at those great
festivals. Is that all? That's it. Okay. Chairman Ericson. Uh, two upcoming committee assignments. Planning commission this Wednesday, 6 p.m. Looking forward to the meeting and then region 5 following Thursday the 26th. Happy 4th everyone.
Thank you. I just wanted to reiterate the same things about Country Manor. Uh, also St. Francis, whether it may be controversial or not, that's development in two different areas. And we have another one that was just proposed to us at the EDA and and here at the council tonight for the industrial park. Um
let's keep the momentum moving forward and good more good things to come. Um with that just looking for a motion to adjourn. We have one motion by Stunic. Second. Finally spoke. Second by Ericson. All those in favor. We are
journed. We're not getting sued. We don't have properties to Nicely done. See you again. Good job.