clock we'll call this meeting to order we'll start with roll call please michelle dre here j dj duner here stephanie edman here randy hidman here sarah spear here john ward here
please stand for the pledge of allegiance i pledge algiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and
justice for all all right this is a meeting of the briner public school board and it's being conducted in accordance with minnesota statutes 13d.02 this meeting is being recorded access to the recording is available on
the school's district youtube channel we will um move to approve the agenda and this is an amended agenda we pulled an item off um related to a union grievance that we'll take on at a later
date here i'd like to talk about that i'd like to make a motion that we put the the agenda back in the newspaper i didn't think this would be a big deal but i spent a lot hours on this agenda and now you've completely changed it around i thought
this was our agenda i don't know who's making these changes but i don't appreciate it i don't think it's very professional i've been on lots of boards i've never seen anything quite like this before so i'd like i'm looking for a second to make a motion that we quit putting it in the newspaper right kelly
because we're saving money correct well it's not doesn't seem to be working this is the third agenda i've seen in the last four days and i'm tired of it and it's embarrassing and it's not the way we should be doing business good so i don't know chairman
chairperson if you want to have more discussion on it but i'd be ready to vote on it right now would you like to add that to the agenda i'd just like to make a motion i've got a second we need to discuss it i don't know what uh director ward thinks or any of you guys but i don't know why this agenda is
changing around i was on this agenda at 2 o'clock yesterday i knew exactly what we were doing today and today this doesn't would you like to add it to the agenda i guess i'm confused why do i have to add it to the agenda because if we take action on it we have to take action it's not part of the agenda right now but it doesn't have to be an agenda
because i made a motion and i have a second it's a qualified motion so we can have discussion on it we can vote on it no need to add it to your agenda can you restate your motion please i'd like to make a motion that our agenda is published in the brainer daily dispatch
like it's been for the last 20 years i think right now the notice is the only one kelly right so you'd like to make a motion to add that agenda item to the action items so that we can act on it that's what you're saying i don't think you're correct i think that with a
motion and a second we can have discussion and everyone gets their opportunity and then we can vote on it is the intent to put it in the dispatch to um to not change it then yes i'd like
to feel comfortable if i have time to go through it on friday or saturday or sunday i can walk into this meeting i never looked at this thing today i didn't know it was going to be different why would i need to i was prepared i went through all the policies i did everything this weekend and i'm ready to come to a meeting and then i get here
and i get the agenda and it's like well what is the what's the deal why is it different i don't think it's professional i think it's tacky and i don't understand why it's happening but i guess maybe if we had to post it it wouldn't be as easy to make the changes we got a motion um to add an agenda item
to the new business for action to add an item that says we put the agenda in the newspaper and there is a second to add that to the agenda thank you stephanie any other discussion if not all those in favor
please signify by saying i i oppose the same all right we will add that to the agenda anything else to add to the agenda otherwise i'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda as it sits i'll approve uh i'll move to approve the
amended agenda thank you i'll second all right we've got a motion by director ward and a second by director breen any discussion all right if not all those in favor please signify by saying i i oppose the
same motion carries the very first thing we have on our agenda tonight is a huge celebration and i would like to invite up a couple of students and some folks to celebrate them uh we have with us tonight lucy marshall and cab story i'd like to
invite you to come on up you know you know you two as as a school board a lot of times we get to sit here and and make decisions about budget and teachers and stuff that comes to your classroom but we don't actually get to see what happens when you're out in the
real world and we always hope and we know and we hear stories of our students um persevering and taking on big challenges and you guys have done just that you're everything we would want warriors to be in that moment so thank
you and um just to give a little bit of background story to this group i think it was on um let's see march 26th 26th thank you dj on march 26 we had an incident with a a bus driver had um a
medical emergency and the quick thinking of these brave intuitive attentive students um got everyone to safety and they did such a great job we're just super proud of you thank you for being here tonight and we've got some folks here from riker bus um and we've got our
principal from riverside who's done a great job implementing programs to leadership programs so these students have those opportunities okay so lucy you wanted to meet back she's the one on the other side of the
oh how great is that sheriff clang i don't want to put you on the spot but if if you wanted to say a few words that well i i had a opportunity to uh to view that bus video and i tell you it's uh it was pretty uh
um heartwarming to see you guys uh step up to the play right away and i took control i understand uh caleb you're you're kind of a a little shyer sometimes now and then and you went right right into
action and that is just like incredible and uh hats off to you guys i can't tell you how much how proud we are that you guys are warriors so appreciate you guys very much well done thanks you guys and thanks for being here tonight so that we could
celebrate you we absolutely won't make you stay for the whole meeting but we love that you're here lucy wants to be a kindergarten teacher so she might be interested oh my goodness yeah we'll take it all right oh great um let's see we've
got some other celebrations here tonight too um i'm glad to read through them unless there are any objections you guys want to take some on um a special thanks to the brainard high school robotics team for their support at harrison's
stem night on march 27th the students were great ambassadors for science and technology by engaging students and families in their demonstrations and community service congratulations to ari picar eastston dirks ty faber and shane carlson for qualifying for the minnesota
state high school league wrestling tournament congratulations to the warrior girls basketball team for winning the section 84a championship and finishing in sixth place in sixth place at the minnesota state high school league class 4a tournament
congratulations to the warrior speech team on a great season national qualifiers include brady davidson who double qualified in humorous and program oral interpretation and abigail smith and haley petri for qualifying in duo
brady davidson also qualified for the mshsl state tournament in humorous interpretation congratulations to the warrior robotics team for placing third in the granite city regional congratulations to the warrior super mileage team for taking fourth place out
of all high schools in the battery electric division at the shell ecomarathon nationals held in indianapolis motor speedway congratulations to ally clow for being named the class 3a assistant dance coach of the year and to cindy plow for
earning class 3a head coach of the year congratulations to the recently inducted legendary women of brainard public schools the 2025 inductees were carla anderson benjamin deborah goble ericson lee gunsbury cyp dr megan thurlo and
lorie pot venwig and it was an awesome ceremony and one more congratulations to the brainard warrior adapted floor hockey team for winning the state championship game in the p1 pi division of the mshsl adapted floor hockey state
tournament on saturday march 8th the team finished the season 12 and 0 pretty awesome all right next on the agenda we've got public input a member of the public can address the board during this time comments will be limited to three
minutes complaints or allegations against students or employees may not be discussed due to privata privacy complaints or allegations must be submitted in writing to superintendent grant the board of education superintendent will not converse with guests to address the topics discussed
at the time and no visual props will be allowed all right first up tonight we have rick felt please rick felt brainer minnesota under the constitution we just pledged allegiance to the constitutional
republic that we have and i'm a little bit concerned about the direction of the minnesota state doing these surveys and they're asking for information that nowhere in the minnesota constitution or the us constitution gives them authority
to ask some of the sexual questions of the students that they're raising i don't think our founding fathers ever wanted the government to pry into sexual uh identities and everything of the students and i'm just concerned about the direction that we're going and i and
i thank director edman when she campaigned that she was going to do exit interviews on the mass exodus of students and and the reason why the parents have been pulling out the students out of this and and as i've done interviews with people that have pulled their students out they've always
said i turn over my children to the guardianship of the school but they are thinking that they are now the parents and they're teaching my kids stuff that only parents should be teaching and and that is one of the biggest reasons that i see that we've had this large exodus
it's approaching almost a thousand students now and and you cannot argue that and then we hire you guys to solve problems not create problems and and because of you're leaning to the left and everything and teaching and and
shoving things down parents' throats that is one of the biggest reasons that we're seeing now that they're pulling their children out of the schools and i think dj doninger he he tried to express almost two years ago an olive branch and and and he was shunned and and and
looked down on and everything so if you guys i would i would highly encourage you to watch what maine does because maine is doing the exact same thing that minnesota is doing minnesota is saying "we're going to go ahead and and let the trump campaign sue us for
taking dei out of the schools." well i'll tell you what trump has has has held his ground and he did take away the funding for the main school system and now it's going through the court system and everything and i would highly
encourage you guys to take a good look at this because if you are going to gamble almost $7 million of federal funding on this dei protocol i guarantee you if you lose that $7 million i will come back with resignation letters for
the people that voted for that thank you thank you rick next up we have tony bower please good evening i also urge you not to participate in the survey that's being presented for your approval
i believe a survey like this plays into the hands of the radicals who wrote it that want to instead of educating children manipulate some of them into believing that they are trans or gay or whatever so that they might then demand more money more political power and more
influence to represent what they will characterize as a marginalized underrepresented or ignored group which they themselves created please stay in your lane of educating kids stay out of social engineering domains it's not
right it's dangerous and you're out of your league thank you thank you tony next up we have dan higgstead please thank you madame chair and members of the board i'm dan hegstead i am here to
speak in uh support of our teachers administration and uh support staff our kids graduated from uh brainer high school over the years and they are all doing really well which is great
which means we can really enjoy retirement uh they're all very different and had very different needs but they were all met by our school district that was a big job i'm concerned that you're being
flooded with talk of dei crt band books litter boxes furries bathrooms and other nonsense and yes you should hear and respond to people's concerns but these are mostly red herrings meant to distract you from the important work of managing the
education of our children what i listen to when i listen to what i politely call noise i get a sense that some think that our teachers are just over paid daycare providers and yet teachers at the same
time seem to be super powerful propagandists who want to indoctrinate our children into some cult there is a quote i ran across from a teacher not here who said "if teaching if teachers could brainwash your children they'd probably get them to
shower and wear deodorant." even though we won't be here for every meeting i want to uh assure you that we have your back and i thank you for remaining strong and focused thank you dan next up we have ed shaw
please thank you madam chair and directors for everything you do for all of our children i am the father of uh two forest few students fifth graders my daughter is with me tonight and you know when we pledge allegiance we pledge allegiance to a republic not a
dictatorship not a king and our this this board is accountable to the citizens in this community not the president whoever the president may be some love the current president some hate him the same will be true for the next president but we we decide here
locally we don't respond to threats from washington or anywhere else and i'm glad that the board is doing that and i certainly hope and expect the board to continue doing that this is again this is a republic it's not a monarchy that's very clear it's right in the pledge and
as far as you know you hear all kinds of conspiracies theories out there the internet's a wonderful thing problem is a lot of what's on there is garbage there were litter boxes in the schools two years ago so we were told of course they didn't exist but hey people at debates and meetings talked about them
you know there's dei coming to get us crt this that or the other thing you know don't pay attention to the noise most of us parents we support what you're doing we appreciate that we're you're staying focused on reality and not getting tied up in conspiracy theories thank you thank you
ed next up we have michael ericson please thank you um my name is michael ericson professionally i was a school psychologist uh for 42 years i want to uh give a quote here from james coat's
book the crossing and the lynching tree i want to give one of those public disclaimers that some of this may be um um upsetting to some people this recounts a case of a white mob in 1918
in valda georgia that lynched an innocent black man named hayden turner turner's wife mary who was pregnant wanted justice for her husband's death and she went to the sheriff he responded by arresting her and then turning her
over to the mob which included women and children according to one source mary was stripped hung upside down by the ankles soaked with gasoline and roasted to death in the midst of this torment a white man opened her swollen belly with
a hunting knife and her infant fell to the ground and was stomped to death white supremacy ruled these nice people thought they were in the right they thought they were entitled just like the germans at ashwas this is why schools and the
general public need diversity equity inclusion i say those three words and not just dei so we learn from the horrors of the past what i hear from many anti-dei folks is it'll make white kids feel bad
if they have to hear or learn all this stuff my response is that hopefully they'll never know what it's like being teased harassed isolated beaten raped bullied etc for some reason that is virtually beyond their control my hope
is that they'll act like an ally to our diverse community because that's what they've learned currently the president's administration is anti-diversity equity and inclusion and the anti- department of
education in 1979 president carter felt states were not funding poor schools wouldn't protect kids with deal disabilities wouldn't follow civil rights laws especially in the south currently there's a teacher in
idaho that has a sign in her classroom that says "everyone is welcome." there's hands with hearts in the palms and arms with different complexions her school says that's not acceptable to be in her classroom i say that's a bunch of
bull the department of defense because of the current president's policy has removed ira hayes uh from the evil gima segment of the raising the flag because that's a dei issue the navajo code
takers talkers has been removed from their primary area that they were held before because that's a dei issue thank you for your time thank you michael next up we have pat dixon please
good evening and thank you in the 410 resolution for isd 181 school board response to the american indian parent advisory committee's vote of non-concurrence recommendation three includes these words it's important for
students to see themselves in texts and instructional materials throughout the year our goal is to provide an educational experience that supports all students along with ongoing support for curriculum development throughout the
school year the minnesota student survey is one of the longestr running youth surveys in the nation it's a trienal survey it's administered to grades 5 8 9 and 11 it's anonymous and it's statewide
and it's conducted to gain insights into the world of students and their experiences an inter agency team approach allows for a single instrument and only one administration instead of each agency doing its own data
collection the inter agency team is the minnesota departments of corrections education health human services and public safety the survey is a valuable tool for
understanding the experiences and well-being of students in minnesota the data collected helps schools committees communities and state and local agencies make better decisions about youth programs and
services knowing our students greatly enhances our ability to support all students by providing opportunities for them to see themselves in the textbooks and other educational materials
the version of the agenda that i saw said that was being considered to exclude fifth and eighth graders and so this responses to that fifth graders and eighth graders also need to be known and their participation provides
longitudinal data that would be lost if they were not included thank you thank you pat next up we have kevin boils please i think we can safely say that everybody in this room is glad i'm
limited to three minutes good evening esteemed board members mr grant nice to see you all i also would like to talk briefly with you about 2 minutes and 58 seconds worth on diversity equity and
inclusion as you can imagine i have a little bit different take on this than maybe some of the other folks do i think dei is a thing i think it's out there i think i've lived in corporate america i've seen it taken to illogical extremes i've seen it used in ways that i don't really appreciate as a citizen or as a
business person but i think people are trying to carry that into the school district and in in a sense trying to bring what's out in the ocean into an aquarium where something doesn't necessarily have to exist because by themselves the words are pretty harmless diversity who
doesn't like that equity talk about that some more in a minute that's the rest of my speech inclusion pretty cool thing but somehow when we put those three words together it's like a 55gallon drum of coca-cola and 200 packs of mentos who know you know like so equity um in four
years sitting where you all sit i've heard some pretty asinine and inane things i've heard some deeply insightful things one of the most asinine things i've ever heard was equity is not the goal equality is the goal and equity is not equality and equality is should be
the goal and this idea that equity is taking something from this student to give it to this student and i reject that notion profoundly equity is a container it's a shopping cart in which you put the tools to build the ramps to
equality it's wheelchair ramps it's the lincoln education center it's adapted playground equipment it's special keyboards for kids that can't write properly those are all forms of equity
it's not taking something away from somebody now it may be outside of the school district but inside the school district it is what you say it is you're a decision-making body that says equity is not taking something away from this kid to make this kid stronger or taller
not lowering the bar so that everybody can meet it say the bar is here but some kids don't have the resources available to get to the bar on their own might as well close down the lec if you don't believe in that notion so i i ask you to separate your thinking around the
concept of equity from what's happening in the political arena because that's a real fight i think there are is an ide ideological battle there that is worth having a discussion of i just don't think it has a place inside of the school district and in four years of having these conversations with community members when i was on this
board uh i found that when i had rational discussions with people across the political spectrum the vast majority of people understood that idea that you know we're not the idea is if we want better test scores why would we water an orchid and a cactus the same amount
that's equality in its purest form you put the resources where the resources need to be if you don't well your test scores certainly aren't going to come up thank you for your time have a great evening good to see everybody thank you kevin good to see you
too all right um that's what we have for public input tonight next on the agenda we have the approval of minutes from our last regular board meeting and our special board meeting so move motion is there a second
second we've got a motion from director heman and a second from director dond deinger on the march 3rd minutes any discussion all those in favor signify by saying i i oppose the
same motion carries um approval of minutes for the special board meeting on march 10th so move i'll second got a motion from director heidman a second from director breen any
discussion if not all those in favor signify by saying i oppose the same motion carries moving on to the consent calendar we've got um a number of things on the consent calendar tonight including a
couple of field trips there are some policies on there that have some um minor changes and um some reports and the payment of bills i make a motion we approve the consent
calendar i second we have a motion from director director breen and a second from director ward any discussion on the consent calendar if not all those in favor signify by saying i i oppose the same
motion carries next up we have approval of resolution for non-renewal of non-tenure teachers and i believe we've got mr ali jean coming up to present for us welcome director jean good evening i'm going to read the resolution
of non-renewal of non-tenure teachers whereas minnesota statute section 122a.40 4 subdivision 5 states that the first three consecutive years of a teacher's teaching experience in a single district
is deemed to be a probationary period of employment and that the probationary probationary period in each district in which the teacher is thereafter employed is one year and whereas minnesota statute section 1228.4 four subdivision
five further states that any annual contract with a probationary teacher may or may not be renewed as the school be school board shall see fit provided that the board gives a teacher written notice of non-renewal before july 1st
2025 now therefore be it resolved by the school board of independent school district one number 181 as follows one pursuant to minnesota statute section 122a.4 subdivision 5 the school board
hereby declines to renew the annual teaching contract of two probationary teachers effective at the end of the school year two as a result of this resolution the district's employment relationship with the two probationary teachers listed in the consent agenda
will terminate effective at the end of the concurrent at the end of the current contract or june 9 2025 three the school board has review and hereby approves a written notice of non-renewal for each effective teacher
each teacher has a right to request the written reason for non-renewal the reasons for non-renewal are classified as private personnel data under the minnesota government data practice act unless the non-renewal represents the
final disposition of disciplinary action four the superintendent or a design is directed to serve the effective teachers with a copy of this resolution and the approved written notice for that for that teacher before july 1
2025 if possible the notice shall be handd delivered copies of the resolution and a written notice to each of the probationary teacher will be provided for the clerk this evening at this time i'm seeking approval of resolution of
non-renewal of non-tenure teachers we'll look for a motion make a motion thank you we've got a motion from director donolinger and a second from director
heidman any discussion if not do we need to do roll call on a resolution yes um we'll do roll call dunlinger yes stephanie edman yes randy hidman yes sarah spear yes don ward yes
yes thank you thank you thank you appreciate it uh next up we've got a presentation from the riverside pto on a fundraising plan i know
oh i got a click too thanks for joining us tonight no shooting okay i don't know if she was gonna say something uh members of the board thank you so much for giving us an opportunity to talk to you tonight about our project we'll start with introductions my name is misha freeman i am the pto secretary at riverside and i have two children in
the brainer school district both that go to riverside my name is alicia prlemmyer um i am the president of the pto i have been part of the pto for 12 years and my youngest is in second grade and my oldest will be graduating next year
my name is carrie gorgus and i am the pto treasurer and i have one child in first grade and i have another one that will be joining for the voluntary preschool program this next fall friends so
um one of the big initiatives if you'll call it that um we'll say jill's catchphrase is that riverside is a place to belong and as a group of pto parents we have really taken ownership of what that means and really talked a lot about how we can do a better job participating
in that vision for every student in versail to feel and have the autonomy to belong in the community we create we've done that so far with just making sure that every activity that we offer is accessible yeah you guys can sit down with me um making sure that we are creating spaces that every child is able
to engage in in our space um and as we've grown in our understanding of what that means to be long in our space um we came up with a $1.2 million vision um we sat down this summer as a pto um it
doesn't scare you as much as it scares us um we sat down with parents we sat down with um school staff um with miss borgi as well as buildings and ground members and talked about what would it look like and feel like if every child in our building had the opportunity to
engage in play um in a way that they are self-driven and they have the access to do so but more importantly that all of the students in riverside have an opportunity to engage with each other in really important ways um our playground just like every playground in the
district um meets the ada guidelines for what accessibility is which is a single blue adaptive swing um that is surrounded by wood chips so that means that an adult has to actually actively make the decision to put a child in that swing to allow that child to engage it
and we have a greater vision um for the students that we work with because we recognize that well we are hoping that someone will give us $1.2 2 million but if that doesn't happen immediately um we worked with st croy to develop a threephase process for how we're going
to develop this program as um carrie mentioned next year we are really excited to have vpk on campus at riverside so we will have preschoolers there so we have an immediate need for playground equipment that hits the ages of 2 to 5y olds um everything in this
picture is pretty true with the exception of the fence there will not be a fence that means that it is accessible for every child in our playground i personally have a little girl she's in kindergarten she is five uh and the 5 through 12year-old playground equipment
is not safe for her she's itty bitty and so um she'd be able to engage in this playground equipment in a safe way that i would know she's not a fall risk while playing on the playground with her friends this is going to be um set up this summer we'll already have it
implemented and ready to go for that prek students that are starting in the fall we have funding for that piece um but our next big piece is going to be phase two which is our universally accessible structure um i don't know how much it is i don't know that i need to
know that right now u but the dream is as you can see a fully um accessible play structure that any child in a wheelchair would be able to access and engage in activities once they access that playground we um really dreamed about what it would look like to be able
to play so there are slide structures that allow students with varied mobility to be able to play in there you'll see that every piece that allows wheelchair play also has very intentional um spaces for abled-bodied childrens to engage with them because it's not just about allowing children with disabilities to
engage but allowing children to play together in a way that makes sense to them so this will be our next big push and then phase three which would be the addition of an adaptable um zipline thank you jill uh and then another swing in the back part of our plan in that the larger picture that we
showed does have us keeping some of the existing equipment that we have while upgrading a good chunk of it to make sure that all of our children are able to play in that space um the three adults sitting in front of you right now have never done anything like this before we are engineering as we go and
so we came up with three ways that we think we can do some fundraising um the first one it's going to be amazing we're going to tell ourselves that it's going to be a dinner fundraiser on may 13th we are going to invite members of the community so that our parents and our students can talk to them about the need and our dream for this playground we're
partnering with a community restaurant to do this program so we're hopeful that it will all be taken care of in that one night and this event will be over if we don't raise all our funds in a single night the next step will be some grant writing a group of us this summer are going to be sitting down and writing
grant applications um one of the things that you might see or hear from us is we're going to be coming to community members to ask for letters of support uh brainer lakes area does not have an accessible or universally accessible playground anywhere so we also are
keeping in mind that this playground would help our children and our future children but also be accessible to any community member outside of school hours jill is really great about making sure that our playground is open and accessible to the community i'm a community member who also travels to all
the other elementary schools to play at the parks so it would definitely be something that we're adding to our community so we're hoping for letters of support on how this could bring more business or bring more families into our community and then finally um the other thing that i was really excited about was when we met with st croy and he gave
us the very itemized uh pricing list for phase one which was really overwhelming he identified some pieces that we could work on to lessen the bill one of those would be um working with construction companies who might be interested in donating the concrete for some of the
areas um that we would need within the playground um the other place that he talked about is what i am calling a wood chip party um they would drop the wood chips at a location and we would work as a community to put those wood chips where they need so we are going to invite our school family our students
our community members preferably those with bobcats but if you have a wagon we're excited to have you join us um to move those wood chips and put them into our playground um so that our students really have ownership over this space that we're creating for them as well so you'll get that invite in your mailboxes
as well so um planning with a goal in mind although um some of us are worried about 1.2 jill has a vision that we're going to raise more than we need we love that about her um and so if and when jill we raise more than $1.2 million our plan is to put the rest of that funds in
an endowment account through the brainard foundation to make sure that the upkeep for our playground will forever be uh in place um and then we'll go from there if we have additional funds so i'll pause here and ask what questions might you have for our team
mure so um the arb has just putting in a playground as well um and it's a handicap accessible playground but i'm not sure if it's totally handicap accessible do you know do you know anything about that i am uh familiar with it uh they have both the the
outdoor pieces that they're allowing to make um outdoor a little bit more accessible for students i do not know because i haven't seen the plans um one of the things that is really essential when we're talking about dis disabled like just universally accessible would be um the paths so one of the reasons why our playgrounds aren't is because
they're all wood chips they have put in some paths to my knowledge but i don't know if the there's concrete or what pi or in place or in place thank you um materials and space that would allow wheelchairs to go through and i don't know if the arp has those um some of the
state parks are getting those um wheelchairs that have the really intense wheels so that you can go off-roading um and engage in nature and natural and i don't know if the arp has any of those but um madam chair um so you you may want to visit with
them though about some possible grant writing and places to go for money mhm i also um i'm from proctor which is up by duth and proctor has a handicap accessible playground and and i've been there and visited it i've seen it um one of the things that they did different
than what i see here and and by the way thank you for including all of our kids thank you for the inclusion of every child in this in this area um because there are not not that many years ago recently or we had a a parent at a at a
board meeting whose child had to sit and watch while the other kids played so thank you for inclusion of uh all of the kids okay having said that um um proctor has a a playground a handicap accessible
playground they didn't use wood chips they used poor in place we agree also a $1.2 million dream would be like a $2.7 million dream so there is an opportunity if anyone listening has a lot of money to make it fully accessible
that would be our dream i think there was a certain point where one we can always add more porn in place to make the entire ground um pour in place it's just a matter of how much we're going to do and and this is a big ask i i i want to be really clear like this is a massive ask and there are a lot of inclusive playgrounds
the city has quite a few um we're just trying to figure out how we can kind of get it started into a place um because we looked at complete porn and play for the vpk plus and it was a difference of $90,000 for just that small area so it's it's a big but we're going to try to do
our best how long does that pour and play stuff last 10 years that's it huh closer to the end correct and because of the ada laws regarding step differences we can't do all concrete it's also not really great for
children falling but um we looked in different ways but that was part of the endowment and the other piece that's that we're aware of is that it's going to be a shift in buildings and ground because you can't plow it you can't shovel it you can't blow it because to keep it longer in the snow
too soft but isn't that great for like getting sued right like soft play makes less injuries we're here for you madam chair so the other thing i want to say about proctor was that they they uh
essentia health provided a significant amount amount of grant money for them so i would encourage you to um visit other places that have those uh that have handicapped accessible playgrounds and where they got their money from there's some state money available as well okay
um so yeah we have a big list of people that we want to start asking both within our community and outside of our community we worked with some other parent groups in the cities who created playground funds to see how they've did it and as well as the grants we were really thoughtful about um whose values aligned with what we were trying to do
um i haven't seen any grants that would like make this really easy for us but $10,000 at a time is something that we're willing to do if it meant our children got to engage in play so but if you have ideas i will take them we are more than willing to make this happen and again i mentioned we have no idea what we're doing
get a hold of me actually there was there was a um playground put together up over in crosby um not handicap accessible but it was grassroots it was grassroots from some uh citizens that didn't know what they were doing either but it turned out
to be quite a beautiful project so our neighbors can help us as well madam chair um you said that this is going to be accessible year round well um as much as snow can be accessible for children in wheelchairs but we use our
playgrounds outside in the winter um with the exception of i don't know what the temperature is where they make the kids stay inside but it would be accessible and the parks are open in the winter how about in the summertime the your school parks when school is not in session yeah when schools are not in session the gates are open um what we
talked about or our concern was is that true and it is in riverside it's just um how you get in is not necessarily as easy as other spaces but it is open and so we talked about how do we create better signage so that parents can come into our community park and be able to see it i would also get our local police
department involved because um riverside is close to washington street and i've been told in the past this is not a negative this is just getting them involved because they have zero
tolerance for anything going against a child mhm and the playground was closed on one friday and i called someone who's in the know he's no longer in the district but
uh i asked him why why why was it closed vandalism well vandalism uh alcoholic bottles were found uh they've even found uh needles in the past now i'm not trying
to scare anybody no so you want to get them involved because we want that patrol and we want it open for the children yeah and the last thing i'll say is good ideas attract money oh that's what we're hopeful for and we are really excited per your concerns for any
cameras that you'd like to install at riverside outside to help prevent any of that vandalism to keep our park nice and safe i'll speak on jill's behalf um but also i think one of the pieces that we're really going to drive towards is that the more that we can make this a community space and not this is riverside's playground but this is a
brainer lakes which is why we thought the wood chip party would be a really good idea is that people take care of what they own and what belongs to them and so we're trying to try really hard to make sure that the community knows this is a space for not just children like i have seen adults who have found accessible playgrounds that they never
had as children and it is life-changing and so we want to create that space for the adults in our community as well an idea and i think it might have to run through the school district at our sporting events you might want to consider a 50/50 raffle we have a lot of questions about how
much gambling andor alcohol-related activities pto is allowed to engage in but we will look into that oh okay i see yeah yeah like where's the line somebody else may be able to do that for you yes and we would say yes to all the money that have a license so i mean that's a good usually it's a pretty decent
fundraiser yeah where does it go now randy what's that the 50/50 well i know at basketball games i believe the uh basketball parents they have an association and they're they're selling 5050 at basketball games i don't know about football i'm pretty sure the same thing at hockey it could be yeah yeah
well i'm pretty positive they got a little competition it's being done you know so so did did i hear you right you have the first phase the funding for the first phase yes and how did you get those funds part of it is
the funding that's being provided by the district this is not where i'm in the area of expertise at okay um jill did that we have she's in the back uh we have about $170,000 or $150,000 that was donated for the pk plus space um and
paul bunan co-op i think did part of you should be up here i don't see what's happening i know she's in charge i don't know well really who's in charge yeah we got um so the district has been working to create and make our playgrounds more
accessible and part of that was having some capital money set aside for each of the buildings and marcy can speak more to the budget piece of it and we've been collaborating with the cooperative to make sure that the pieces we do select really are truly accessible and meet the
needs um but as misha said our whole team um parents staff uh even student input have participated in the design of our playground and so thinking about the students we have and the students that are to come um it will meet the needs of all
so anything you want to add marcy okay thank you thank you yeah thank you wonderful nice job nice job all right next up we have director christina
lundren and the winter data presentation welcome hello that's a tough one to follow all right well good evening uh i am sharing this is the winter data
presentation that was uh shared at the february uh curriculum instruction and staff development uh schoolboard committee meeting um it's an overview of our winter uh fastbridge screening data and then we have some information
related to the online school programming at the high school so the first slide uh this is just an overview of the implementation of the fastbridge screening assessments last year was our first year of implementing
those assessments um and then the items in red for year two early reading uh cbm reading and then cbm math automaticity at uh grades two and three those assessments were just added this year so really this year is our first year of
full implementation of all those different assessments that we're using in k12 uh for our three screening periods over the course of the year so our
uh data and assessment coordinator uh put together an infographic just as an overview of that of that winter screening data and so since this is our second year with that
full implementation of those assessments our goal for this year was really to have uh fidelity in the implementation of those assessments and we were looking to get 90% of our students participating in those assessments so that's our goal
uh this year in the fall the winter and then the upcoming spring uh screening assessments so the the top box um that is a district-wide so this is a district-wide view of the winter
screening uh proficiency data for reading math and then the social emotional that's the sabers um assessment and that's looking at uh social behavior how students interact with each other um academic behavior and
then emotional behavior how i manage my emotions in difficult situations are those three categories for that assessment our our second row um in that first box is the percentage of students that completed the assessment again
districtwide so in math and reading uh we we did meet our goal of that 90% for the winter screening um hoping to increase that as we move into the spring assessment and then we had 80% of our students uh complete the sabers uh again
the k4 students that's a teacher uh the teacher completes that assessment for students grades 512 uh the students do a self assessment on that sabers assessment and then our next item is uh a breakdown of the percentage of
students p proficient uh by grade level for the reading and the math assessments so the reading is in the kind of teal green blue and then the math is in that orange color on that bar graph
what is proficient uh so that means you would be making progress of meeting the benchmark goals for those end of the year goals so you're meeting you're meeting for proficient to benchmark what what's the number so you would be meeting the goal so you are at grade
level by the end of the year is what that means so you are reading at grade level by the end of the year you are at math for grade level by the end of the year how does the state define that christina proficiency uh based on the
mca score so i don't know what the actual number is for that but um i can get that information for you at the next meeting well i just asked the question because i think i know the answer 50% 40% 40% and the mca% is proficient
okay wow unfortunate but that's what it is so this is really looking at specific skills i mean it's happy to see some better numbers not cleaning and just yep it's these these you know when
you think proficient i mean when you when 60% is the bottom of the d's right so then you'd think that 40% would be not proficient but it's proficient so it it's disappointing
um well i remember when i went to school 40% was an app no kidding 50% wasn't enough it still is and i'm not i'm not throwing darts at you you're i know i know we're just
going by what the state is saying i know these numbers are nice though we're we're making progress the the last item is looking at the growth scores um comparing the fall screening assessment scores to the
winter um so looking at uh those those four categories so we had uh overall for reading 40% 46% of our students had typical aggressive growth from fall to winter and then in math 51% in that
typical to aggressive growth from fall to winter so when we do this again in the spring um we'll come back with the same overview of the the data for that spring screening um assessment data at that time
well thanks for bringing us some data yes thank you yes um i do want to make a me this is the first time i've seen this i wasn't able to open up anything uh in the uh agenda well it doesn't show that you can open up i think you could have i saw you do
it and then i went to mine and sure it was there because i was wondering like what are we looking at you had to get permission i don't know i didn't know it was a link didn't really show up that it was a link it's a link did you know it was a link john you figured it out you
old whisbang okay well if i wouldn't have been out west i'd have been at the meeting i'd have seen all this so i wasn't at the meeting either what should growth be i mean growth kills me because i would think you could read better at the end of first grade than you could at the start of first grade or the end of second i mean you're you're supposed to
grow so and so we would hope like if we look at that bottom graph bar graph the hope would be that our students that are in flat to modest we want to move those students into the typical and aggressive
so typical growth is the expected level of growth for for that student over that time frame so we want to move those students from flat and modest to the to the other side of that
graph is is the hope so is that fast bridge terminology flat growth mod okay i just i just because that's a good tool yep we're getting getting used to it we are and we're still learning too sure being it's only our second year get rid
of it and so our our spring window uh is starts april 28th through may 16th so that will be our spring uh screening window so then we'll have another set of data at the june the june meeting and just another note mca
season has started this month so we are in the midst of mca testing this month so we'll mca test in april and then move into our last screening window this spring that just triggered a question in my mind what can d
how got to think about my question can we take any of this data and predict how our kids are going to do on the mcas now i'm not saying that that's is the only thing but is there any kind of a predictor christina y of how we think
our kids will do on mcas so i i wrote i wrote down that number because i anticipated the the question here uh so the kind of the relationship of the correl relation is that the the fastbridge proficient score um is
related to an 80 to an 85% accuracy of predicting their uh performance on the mca that they would meet those benchmarks on the mca assessment especially for the a reading the adaptive reading and then the amat
the adaptive math those two assessments so it's a good it's a good predictor of how they will how they will perform on the mca so can you compare it like is flat growth does not meet and then moderate to typical is meets and then
aggressive is um seeds or not it's more just the progress that they're making that day okay so as they've progressed through the year they are um their their learning is deepening they're growing in their skill development that's what that
growth cost would mean okay madam chair if i can make a comment and this is not directed at any one individual i think our school district needs to change our mindset
i've been on this board for about two and a half years and i went back and looked at all of our board meetings and i think i counted maybe four or five times we've talked about
proficiency we spend more time on cultural issues than academic issues and that's the purposes of our school is to graduate smart kids and we as a
board i think we need to change our mindset as well and challenge staff not berate them not put them down but challenge them because i think they want to be challenged and i think we want to talk about these things so thank you for
bringing this up now and what i would also ask you to do is if you could come up with a monthly or bimonthly christina or co quarterly or something give us an idea of when we can
expect data so i think we need to talk about it more we don't talk about data enough we don't talk about how how how our students are doing now maybe we don't have data but maybe do we have trends well if you're thinking we could four
kind of the four quarters right now um planning for would be uh fall winter and spring screening so this this overview that we looked at this evening and then the fourth in the fall would be mca data
so we can start with those four uh quarters of the year and then if there's other items we can we can discuss but we can start with those four if that's a good place to start yeah i mean i would like to see us talk more about
proficiency how are question i have a suggestion so if we're going to do that which i think is a great idea um we've been waiting for this to get rolling right i mean that's kind of the deal but then i think you need to show us last year and this year i think we need to see if we're getting better or worse we
can look at these numbers and if you have a really good photographic memory you'd remember that the third graders last year were at 67% in math and this but then so it'd be nice to see the trending right so this stuff is great but then
somehow somebody smarter than me put together a little summary sheet that shows last year year before last spring last whatever you know if you're this is this fall to last fall fine this winter to last winter so you can kind of see the trend like wow we're either getting
better or we're getting worse because a lot of times you think that everything is going the direction you want and by the time you figure out you've been going the other way you've slipped quite a ways and it's hard to get those little points back you know what i mean it's like so the trend data it's yeah trend data is that's the trick it's and i
would say that's probably something that we'd look at adding starting next fall because this year is really the first year we've done all the assessments so some of the assessments we didn't um administer last year so there wouldn't be trend data wouldn't be accurate anyways but then starting in the fall we
could look at last year to the the next school year i think it's a good idea y okay so the kind of the followup to the the data um is is around literacy um and
and as you know the um the the teaching staff and our leadership staff have been participating in the ola training this year um ola is a professional learning that dives into structured literacy
instruction and our leadership cohorts completed um the the course uh in february our teacher cohort which is made up of uh teachers grades k6 our special ed teachers and our uh english language learner teachers uh they will
be completing the course um at the end of of may or midmay um and so uh part of the moving forward from this learning we have a summer workg group uh with representation from each of those grade
levels to look at how we can use that learning to i'm going to grab my our kind of our outcomes uh to connect our uh to communicate the learning outcomes uh aligned with minnesota ela standards
to determine assessment practices and success criteria in reading and to create uh cohesion kind of collective around those evidence-based instruction practices um so that we are using common language
with our student common visuals uh possibly lesson templates and things like that so we can have some consistency across that uh literacy instruction across our elementary grades so that's a a next step with that ola uh professional learning experience that we
had or still in process with this year how about that now ola is the training part of it correct what is the curriculum what are we using for uh the curriculum so the curriculum uh right now we're still using our current
adopted curriculum and really this is about instruction and evidence-based instructional practices which can be used with any resource it's really independent of the resource so our group
this summer is really focused on how do we implement the instructional practices as a starting point and then uh a resource conversation may come later down the road but that's not where we're at right now so it's really focused on those instructional practices
what kind of improvement do you think you could expect from training compared to i mean just for a dummy like me i'm thinking same curriculum why would we think it's going to get a whole lot better um i'm sure training is going to make a difference could you could we
could we hope for a 5% improvement 10% improvement that is a great question i i don't want to throw out a number but um i would expect yes there would be improvement because really it does come down to
instruction and not things and so um this course um i participated in this course and um as you know i'm a a former chemistry teacher i was not a did you like it i did and it is it is intense i
mean it is it's nine modules um they are uh intense they're they're deep there's practice there's um a lot of reflection about your instructional practice and
and i would say even as a a secondary teacher um there were things that if i was in a classroom i could have been taking that and bringing those instructional practices into my classroom it was it was a wow a wow
moment so um i think for our teachers that are literacy instructors um this has been a great learning experience for them and they are really excited to um implement these practices next year
so while they're going through the class just help me because i just think different is so i learned this new thing i could use in my class but i'm not going to use it until next year no why wouldn't i use it right now people have been using it this year um the the goal
for kind of broadly speaking is this is the learning year so the expectation is that you are a learner if you would like to try some of these things in your classroom great if you have a group that
you're working with and you want to try some of these strategies great but collectively that's going to be our our year two so we're going to have a workg group with all those different grade levels represented so now that we've completed this learning we've seen the
whole the whole package so to speak how do we collectively move forward and implement the instruction so next year it's really about intentional implementation of those instructional practices so that we're using common language with our students common
assessments with our students we can talk the same language with each other um and that's really that year too so there are people that are using these practices this year it's not just a a no but the intentionality and the
collective will be next year or that year too cool because they are just and they will just finish in may so it's they're still in the midst of of the learning right now we got buy in from all the uh from the literary coaches
correct they're on board yeah i think it's been a really positive learning experience i mean it's it's been a lift it is it's an intense course it is an intense course and um our teachers have
been amazing in their um professionalism their willingness to to learn and to do hard things and um dig into their learning it's been really impressive and just really good conversations with each other uh good conversations across
schools um and some of the different groups that we've had them in together so it's been it's been really impressive so everything everything we've kind of discussed right now are enabling behaviors um and the proof is going to
come with the kids and that's what we're about that's what this district is about and you guys are about the same thing we're all pulling in the same direction trying to accomplish the same goals and there has to be trust uh between
staff between us board members everyone's got to be on board and this is so important i mean we we talked earlier um i know john was a big proponent of the read act and we all were but i mean if we can get those kids reading in k through four man it's going
to make their life so much easier and i'm excited to see what is going to happen next year that's because right now it's all a lot of training and and whatnot so you know it's you know you pass you know you make a good pass in basketball we just went through march
madness you make a good pass but you don't score unless the ball goes in the basket and that's what we want to have and we want a lot of basketball uh scores next year
that is the goal yeah cool all right so the last data piece kind of a shift um just because it's newer programming is around our online school online courses at the high school and i'm going to invite up uh brandy hegel
she's our online school coordinator to uh go over the last couple of slides here good evening hi if you like data you're going to love me because this is what i got for this whole thing so there are three pieces of information i really want to point out
for brainer online school in terms of our enrollments for this year when you're looking at fall 2024 we had a total of 561 students taking at least one course that doesn't count our entire enrollment for fall which was around 900
courses being taken because you're going to have many students that are taking two three four even five or six courses um so if you even take a look at like the 9th grade under fall of 2024 we started off with 54 students and by far
the majority were taking one course that was 81% were taking one course by the time we jumped to 2025 we went up to 81 nth graders that had decided between going from first semester to second semester that they wanted to try online
um and if you look even down the row from 9th 10th 11th and 12th the majority of our students are taking one course um 10th and 11th grade we have the highest numbers with uh well we only have one eighth grader um but the ninth and the
12th grade they have the lowest amount of students so when we even compare this to what we see with fall of 2023 we had about 230 students that were taking one online course and so we jumped for
almost double that amount in the in the space of one year and even our enrollments for next year look like they're going to be higher than this number so we're excited to see the growth that's happening with brainer online school are you offering more classes we are offering more classes um right now we're
trying to we'd be up around 33 offerings and then it depends on section numbers on if we're going to be moving ahead with those but what we want to do is is really focus on our electives and making sure that we have that we have the core courses and we have enough electives
where a student if they wanted to go online starting in 9th grade they could go fully online from 9th through 12th grade which is an amazing feat considered that we're in our fourth year of an online school and that has been
like an astronomical um kind of boon for for the district and in what we see with interest in taking online brandy how many um madam chair you want me to go back how many um brainer kids versus out of district kids
are there um of these 500 i have my glasses on now currently 5683 so yep so we actually have two full-time outofd district students that are fully enrolled within brainard um
one lives in mcgregor another lives in piers um but then also when you take a look at the supplemental part of this where we just have students taking one or two classes from outside that enrollment isn't it kind of it varies from semester to semester and they you
can have students taking two classes or three classes and so that totals about 20 classes being taken what is our capacity for number of students that that is going to be the question it really is looking at are we going to
reach a plateau and if so when is it going to be and right now if we're looking at at next year and let's say that theoretically we're looking at 900 to a thousand students taking at least one course do we have the section
numbers for it um is this where we have enough teachers that want to be doing this as well and so there's a lot of things to take into consideration in deciding how does this look moving forward like do do we plateau it
ourselves or do we see where it can go but the the interest is there and we don't see it waning at this point and at this point we've addressed every student that's applied for online school i mean every student has had been able to participate if if they want to it's
completely their choice they do not have to take online if they don't want to take online i get that but we haven't had to turn anybody away at this point we have not okay do any of these classes uh mimic uh elective classes where it's
in classroom where there's a teacher do you mean like a hybrid class where teachers like all of our teachers take it online or take it in the school we have teach classes like that like you could do the in the building class or you could do the online class yep so when you look at all of our our core classes there's an in-person version and
then there's an online version that you can take really yep do most these kids do they go to school and it's just like they decided to take these two online classes mhm so they're here most of the time but they're done at 1:00 or something like that and they take the last two classes at home or
wherever they want to go yeah and so what is built into their schedule is let's say they have like a fifth and a sixth hour that is built into the schedule for them to work on the online class we have designated spots within the high school that are supervised where students can sit down they have a
nice area to work on things um all of the teachers are within the building and so if they need help from their teachers in person they can go directly to them as well brandy i see um you know other online programs u marketing themselves um how
much marketing are we doing we have not done marketing like you would see like um let's take minnesota virtual academy for example and they're out of the the houston minnesota school district and they were also had k12 as a funer and as
a backer as kind of a partner with it and so they had that outside source to be able to say hey we're going to try to reach greater minnesota in terms of bringing kids to that program for us it is we're focusing on what can we provide
for brainer students and yes we are getting students that are supplemental or out of district um because they have heard it's a great program or it has suited their needs in terms of flexibility but that is our number one goal is to make sure that we're
supporting our students and we we're making a program that is good for them absolutely that should be i'm glad glad to hear that but also you know if we have an opportunity to re recover some resources financial resources um down
the road or whatever i think we need to look at that as well yep and there are when when you look at the number of online programs that have really sprung up across the state it is phenomenal within the last the last year or so um
we're up over a hundred online programs okay so more data exciting um this is a comparison of what do we see with in-person grades versus what do we see with online grades and you'll notice that when you look at percentage of b's
c's and d's very similar across the board which we are very happy about um the difference that you're the greatest difference that you're going to see is in terms of the amount of a's and then the amount of fs and so it kind of looks like ooh that's that's a big difference
but what i do want to remind everyone is that we are in only our fourth year we create all of our own curriculum we are still learning in terms of what is effective e-learning design and as we get better these numbers will get better
is there is there um online curriculums that you could buy there are they are they are very expensive um and when we look at something that we want to offer for students we know that our teachers they are the ones with the knowledge
they're the ones that have went through the training and the learning in order to provide the best possible resources for students and be able to apply it to online as well and and that is something that i think separates brainer online school
from a lot of other online programs and it makes us head and shoulders above the programs where the curriculum may be coming from states like california or texas just because they're bigger and they can um sell to to more people and
so when we're looking at ours specifically this is for minnesota this is to meet our standards and benchmarks which is what we need to do so these these aren't textbook companies that are putting out online curriculum
no they're complete um full companies that will provide the entire curriculum not just a textbook it will be if you're looking at like the learning management system so we have d2l is where we store and house all of our online classes and
if you're looking at uh like a like a company like k12 i think it's called stride now they will provide it so it's built for that lms it's built for that learning management system but that is also something that we can do just as
well because that's where our learning is taking place throughout the year i really appreciate that it's the same thing being offered online and in the classroom just the fidelity of that in
general i think is awesome and so i'm glad i know it's more work but i'm glad we're not subscribing to some of those boxed curriculums so we're doing this so that we don't lose these kids to online school somewhere else partially and it's it's
partially offering the year is 2025 there is choice out there there is there is flexibility in terms of what students have for options we need to be flexible as well in what we're offering our
students and wanting them to not only stay with our district but we know we can provide that learning experience that they need to have in order to be prepared for what comes after high school how many staff are are teaching online
we have 24 right now okay you know when you look at the grades too um c or better you know um online is about 80% and in person is 83% so when i look at that i'm going you know that's
that's a relatively very very good correlation of of online and in person yeah we we were happy with these numbers yeah we know that there is room to grow um there always is but that's where we're hoping that our hard work and and
learning in terms of what does it look like to be an effective online provider and having that for our students we know that's going to make the difference between providing something that is high quality for our students or not
do we know why the percentage is so much different uh with with the uh grade with the upgrade and i would i would are they just screwing around no no they are not no they are not you know okay well i
won't do it today there's a variety of reasons for this and when i look at the reasons i would i would say that we are still a new program we are still learning how to be online teachers and we're learning what is the most
effective way in our formatting which is asynchronous online how do we make sure that we have that effective engagement communication and even when you see scores from previous years to now it is
increasing toward the better do the kids have any comments i mean do do we ask them yes we do i hold several win sessions at the high school the what i need sessions um asking for feedback and then i send out surveys throughout um at the end of fall semester and spring
semester and then all of the teachers within their courses put in surveys some of them do it at the end of of each unit because as they're creating units they want feedback on how is that going what needs to be changed so some do it at the midterm mark some do it at the end of the semester and so we rely heavily on
that student data which also when you look at uh we go through an mde process a continuous improvement process where we have to show that student um qualitative data as well as just quantitative there's probably a learning curve for
students too taking to online and so there's you're trying to encourage them to make develop good habits and one of our goals as part of that continuous improvement pro process is how can their experiences with brainer online school
how can that take them into life after high school most colleges and universities within the state of minnesota use their learning management system of d2l and they have online courses and so if you can experience it in high school where the stakes are not
as high as what you're going to see in college this is this just puts our students one step ahead of someone who hasn't experienced online even if you're not looking at it in terms of of a college or university experience there
are so many professions or jobs out there right now where you have to do learning through online modules and this is something that if they understand how it works and how it functions and they're used to it they're going to be more successful
any other questions thank you brandy thank you awesome awesome you can probably stay seated i i can but melissa's going first so i'll get up for her great thank you for that great information
oh melissa i think we got one thank you there we go all right up next we have a presentation on personal the personal finance course melissa carnea and brandy hegel thank you thank you so first know that brandy and i are
here to represent an entire team and i'll speak to that team later um but we really are representatives um i'm our k12 literacy and humanities coordinator and as you heard from brandy the brainer online school um and really where the
support for the team that is launching this new course personal finance that came from the state statute during 2023 legislative session so during that session the graduate requirement for personal finance was passed into law all
students all high school students need to re take a course for credit um in personal finance and that starts with next year's students so this year's 9th graders need to take a personal finance
course next year 10 11 12 and so that's a graduate requirement of every student in the state of minnesota um per state statute in 2023 so we are starting next fall with our 10th graders or our
current nth graders it will be one semester for one credit and it will be offered both online and in person i'm going to talk you through our process um you'll see there at the bottom that idea of feedback loops and
so being able to bring people in on the conversation um we had our cte teacher who already teaches the elective personal finance landon brainer bless you bless you we had our fax teacher um our fax teacher
emily neistad thank you um that she also teaches a course that brings in personal finance we had a special education teacher that special education teacher has been in the business sector um and so angie andress was able to bring in
that perspective of both special education but also coming from um the financial world along with our special ed curriculum coordinator tammy nelson who's helping us think about okay what about beyond just the core those
students who can access core students who um have different programming how do we start thinking about them meeting this requirement so that's something that we're starting to dig into administration that we began this conversation with andrea rusk and christina lundren
um because there's numbers in there and math 10 um you'll we won't get into it but that this is something that doesn't have a specific teaching license um and so bringing in just all of our partners so math was eric job and then social
studies um personal finance are standards that are within the minnesota social studies standards um but specifically in state statute that can't be how our students learn personal finance that it was specified that this
needs to be a course yes the personal finance social studies standards would stay in that course because they really do speak to two different things um so for social studies we brought in dylan canipple who is our economics teacher um we started the conversation back in
september uh bringing really the conversation of how does state statute apply to brainer public schools and so what are our options how do we want to approach this um that team then focused in with our two experts from cte and fax landon and emily to
look at the focus areas and so mde came out with guidance once um this went into state statute mde had a team that was providing guidance uh they have strands which we'll speak to later um or focus areas is the name of that area um so
what we did is we looked at the focus areas and we looked at okay what are we currently doing in these courses where we do speak to f personal finance um and what does that mean for how we move forward in january then we specifically
sat down and vetted curriculum resources to begin thinking about okay what would this look like the scope and sequence of these focus areas what's the curriculum resource that is best going to meet the needs for what we want for our students and building their financial literacy
their personal finance so where we're at now is uh bringing it to you finalizing that scope and sequence and beginning to build units next year it will be full implementation and continuous improvement so that feedback loop that team there will continue to come back
together and support um those teachers who are implementing the course career in technical education what's fax fax is family and consumer science home great question so many acronyms right so
many acronyms so so few days all right just because we had already touched upon focus areas i'd like to go over these first and then come back to our course description so you can see how it fits into the course description that we created but the focused areas that mde
has provided with her guidance financial psychology earning and income financial systems credit and debt management risk management budgeting and investing so with those in mind and based really on the expertise of of the teachers who
have taught personal finance and in those areas this is the course description that we came up with so take a moment read through it and what we see is a change within this is it's not simple memorization of
information memorization of terms it is we want to build skills and we want to implement those skills in the areas in the focus areas that mde had provided and when we did our feedback loops and when we went through the in
the entire process what we needed to really look at was what are the proper resources or what are the best resources that that we can use that will make sure that we are meeting these areas with fidelity and they're the best resour resources for our students and this is
where we relied on the expertise of of the teachers once again and through i mean we did a lot of indepth um analysis of different resources and we came up with the the next generational personal
finance curriculum that we are going to apply to this course so it aligns with all of the focus areas that we just went over um and this is the big part fosters that higher level thinking which is what we need to do for our students in 2025
and and later um and it also gives teachers an ability to be flexible based on the needs of the students which we thought was um extremely powerful in terms of this resource and then of course it also aligns to the national
personal finance standards any questions one of the exciting things in my opinion is that you're going to be able to um with this course you're going to be able to go out into the real world and find real life examples for those kids to work on you know with the stock market
or checking accounts or i mean there's all kinds of real life examples there yeah and we're we're even looking at how do we bring in community professionals as well to share their expertise in these areas
so we bought this curriculum it is a free curriculum it's free i like it you're welcome i just find it funny curriculum's expensive so i've been hearing for two and a half years this one's free yeah i
always if you ever notice i always ask about this curriculum stuff it's always kind of the oh it's going to cost us millions you know you can't do that and then you know this one obviously i don't think you guys came up with well i googled it so i know you didn't come up
with what it is you know but whatever know that there are links here too of you can see the focus areas um that's linked along with personal finance standards the national standards are linked and then i believe they linked the nextgen um so if you clicked on the
logo i believe it takes you to that website and um our personal finance teacher this has been the curriculum that he's been working from and so when we sat down and we i mean we used the mde rubric to vet the different
curriculum resources they both have been using um both were high quality this especially allowed those simulations application evaluation that piece of to be able to actually go out in the world and be financially literate towards your
personal values and your goals well that was nicely said this is a requirement beginning next year 10 11 and 12 we have to take it once kids are that are entering 10th grade for the first time next year will have three years of this
class or one year one semester one semester one credit yep great question yep but they can take it as we're recommending that they take it as 10th graders but they could take it as an 11th grader or a 12th grader so will this fall into the category of
elective classes as far as them building it's a requirement but it's an elective no right are they going to be able to build around their other classes just yes and we worked with the the high school team to make sure okay when would
this fit best and that recommendation of putting it in the 10th grade year um dylan canipple economics that it's exciting watching the conversations that had happened in the past and will continue to happen of what he talks
about in 12th grade economics that brings in the social studies angle of personal finance um he is already in conversation with these teachers and and asking students too that student voice of of what do you know what more do you need to know how do we how do we get you to this goal so i think it's really
exciting that in 10th grade this deep dive um and then in 12th grade that partnership with the social studies economics course lord knows they need it i mean look at svb bank remember that silicone valley bank all those young billionaires google
people lost all their money because they didn't know what fdic like who doesn't know that and uh john talked about him writing checks not a whole lot of 25 year olds even have a checkbook um you know it's maybe there's no
protection with venmo zel is a bad deal um it's not like a credit card debit cards don't have nearly the protection that credit cards do and i don't know i feel like for 125 million bucks we owe it to them to at least give them the basics when they're getting out of here so good for the state of minnesota they
find it's something we needed around here i just pumped about it damn so jason frerieded was presenting to the board he helped me with it last year ago was it a on a course similar to this leadership leadership leadership but he
was bringing in some personal finance stuff and if i remember correctly i thought he was doing some of that some of that stuff as well have you dialogued with him at all we will when i think of his course um i think of it as very much being a leadership being a leader for
yourself being a leader for your community being a a leader in the future okay um i think so different yes yeah and that wouldn't be a part of the state statute that is truly an elective um if a student doesn't take that course they can still graduate this is a course that
every student needs to graduate thank you i i i have people in my household that still don't know the difference between cash and credit but and if they they know the difference but i guess what i'm
trying to say is they if they used cash i think they would be a little bit more careful take the old plastic out and you just start i mean hopefully that's going to be part of the the the behavior issues regarding personal finance as well i think a benefit of the course um
according to landon that he really appreciated and spoke to and and aligned with the rubric is uh we wanted to make sure we weren't pushing an agenda and that we were helping students be able to evaluate their own choices um and so
that exact idea of budgeting can work well for one person using the envelope system with dollar bills right um whereas budgeting works better for other people in various ways and so it truly does set a student up to know in depth um this aspect this
focus area of financial literacy but then to be able to evaluate make decisions for themselves um for their own goals and values and that's also where that financial psychology comes into play in being able to y set goals
for yourself and understand why you're reacting to certain things in this way and why you want to make these types of decisions so 10th graders will take it next year um juniors and seniors won't need to
okay but they have had a course you know offered to them where they can take it right um so and yes and many have have taken that opportunity to do that and those ninth graders that are in that personal finance course this year will still need to take this one next year right yeah but it i i realize this is a
much deeper dive probably than the other one and i would say mr caniple's class is awesome he does a really great job just from my own kid bringing home some of that stuff right
i'm glad we're still doing that as well so peter do we get rid of a class then no we're just adding in another class that what i find difficult is that the ninth graders this year are going to have to repeat something
similar so that that's kind of a rip and i know they've tried to get mde to can't we work this out and the answer was no because they already did this this year this year they're do so that's kind of a rip on the kids going forward this ninth
grade group but the other side of it is that the outcome is going to be interesting because if we're not teaching any of this at home and we're relying on the schools to do it they have to really do a good job of what they're explaining because this is how
kids get in trouble as soon as they graduate from high school sure first thing they do is get a debit credit card and everything's free they never think about the consequences of zip zip and then when you go to college you're
unendated with advertisements to get the credit cards so it's a really critical course um we just have to do a really critical job of instruction what other questions can we answer i'll make a motion to approve this i'll
second all right got a motion from director doninger and a second from director edman any further discussion or questions if not all those in favor
signify by saying i i i oppose the same thank you very much great work thank you nice job thanks all right the next action item on the agenda is the approval of the resolution for the american indian parent advisory
committee the apac vote of non-concurrence response and i think superintendent grant you're on deck for that you'll have to bear with me my voice a little bit raspy after last thursday but
um the brandon public schools board of education proposes the following in response to the american indiv indian education parent advisory committee in his vote of non-concurrence to the american indian parent advisory committee apac members
the brainer public schools would like to begin its response to the vote of non-concurrence and recommendations presented from apac in february 2025 acknowledging the need for ongoing support and collaboration with the with our staff and communities to support
indigenous learners in response to the apac recommendations we offer the following recommendation number one statutory requirements to offer an ajiway language and cultural course our response the briner public school in cooperation with the brainard high
school administration and staff prepared a curriculum for a course titled introduction to indigenous language and culture course number 131600 for grades 9 through 12 with a value of one credit the course was
presented to our district advisory committee before planning began in earnest and their input was considered when developing the course since this course was only offered for one section one semester the position was posted internally for existing staff all
licensed applicants were considered as of course continues as the course continues to grow and expand there may be a need for additional staffing at that time future actions will be taken to create a more inclusive plan for participation of
apac recommendation number two submission of data request by apac for special education disciplinary fastbridge and school climate response the briner public schools followed the mars reporting for north american indian
students by procedure 30 identification of indigenous students is self-reported identity data and does not need to be verified by school personnel the district makes clear that these data are for purposes of compliance with federal
and state civil rights laws students parents and/or guardians may be asked to self-identify there are three ways in which parents guardians or students typically report their indigenous identity one ethnic and racial
demographic designation form two a title uh six ed506 indian student eligibility certification form and three johnson ali program certification form reporting eligibility and timeliness for all mars
requires students must be identified as north american indian to be identified in the mars with a code of one if the identification is inaccurate the data will reflect a difference in data that may be requested it is the district's
understanding that data requested by apac may not have been what was anticipated yet self-identification cannot be changed by district personnel it is also important to recognize that elementary schools record attendance and discipline
differently from the secondary schools thus the data will reflect that in the minnesota report card reports recommendation number three indigenous people's day program response: we agree with the recommendation accepting that a
timeline to implement curriculum for the indigenous day was faced with constraints the district plans on a more responsive approach to assist staff in preparations for the future each of the past three years information resources and expectations have increased for
district staff this year the district established a working committee to review data and make recommendations for the meeting the spirit of the law regarding this requirement as we continually improve curriculum we are mindful of incorporating multiple
perspectives and identities across all content areas throughout the school year especially that of our indigenous community it is important for students to see themselves in text and instructional materials throughout the school year our goal is to provide an
educational experience that supports all students along with an ongoing support for curriculum development throughout the school year and recommendation number four implementing sustainable leadership training response the brainer
public schools do provide training for succession of roles in the district the roles in hr executive director of schools and the superintendent all strive to provide appropriate training for new personnel the district recognizes that every year changes need
to be implemented in order to keep in line with state personnel requirements changes in state laws and policies approved by the school board through its membership with the minnesota school board association thank you thanks for reading that
motion i'm sorry i missed it's a motion motion excellent second we've got a motion from director don a second from director heidman any discussion if not we'll do a roll call vote please
stephanie edman yes randy hidman yes sarah spear yes john ward yes michelle breen yes dj dunling yes thank you our next action item on the agenda is the board decision on whether
to administer the state the minnesota student survey and this does look different when we when we originally had it on the agenda we had it on there as a a proposed um motion to approve opting out for
grades five and eight for the minnesota state survey and we went back on that and said let's leave it to this group to decide what kind of motion they want to make on this so to start the discussion i will say the and we had some
conversation at length director heyman i know about this on what does this mean when we're talking about the minnesota state survey what is our action on this and our action is to opt out if we don't opt out we offer the surveys we don't want to put our staff i know
superintendent um grant we talked about this we don't want to put our staff in in the shooting lines either so we want to be really respectful about what this means for middle school grades and high school grades as we think about um the options
we have in front of us for opting out of the survey so i will start with that and uh entertain a motion if we want to start off discussion i've got a question who decided to to change the agenda was that
you or peter did you do that randy did you have any involvement in that you said we discussed it so who's we sarah well sarah and i spoke on the phone this morning and it moved around three or four times um and what we wanted to discuss i
contacted our council and asked um if it's a three vote what does that mean three support the um conduct or the doing the testing of the survey three do
not want to do the survey and um he said you need a majority because a 33 is not a majority and in his recommendation it was that um if you cannot come to a consensus for a majority a 4-2 at least that you would
opt out take the time to discuss it for the next third year when the test would be offered in in talking with sarah um we thought it was important for the board to discuss it and make a decision here on whether or not you're going to
offer the survey of 58911 if you're going to offer the survey 911 11 or you're not going to offer the survey at all and the question comes down to what does the board think is um
an amendable solution to a potential 33 vote and not have a majority um if you recall any other 33 votes you've had in the past whatever was on the table for the 33 vote did not move forward um i'm
here because of your last 33 vote right so that's something that you have to make a decision on so the original motion that was on the agenda to approve opting out of grades five and eight for the minnesota state high school
survey we you're welcome to make that motion but we didn't want to specify that that was the motion that needed to be made so that would have meant go forward with 911 yes and that was the original agenda item
that was that was the original agenda item so the floor is open for any kind of motion we want to make um and then we can open discussion and when randy and sarah and i met um a week ago
um we thought a compromise would be 911 compared to 58 911 okay that's how we got the original motion well i would like to make a motion um that we give the survey to eth 9th and
12th year 12th grader or 11th graders surveying students and collecting that data gives us insight and understanding the unique challenges students face such as learning how to navigate social pressures um struggles with body image
and self-esteem stress and anxiety and managing demands of academics we need to understand more fully what specific challenges these students are facing this survey also helps us better understand the positive behaviors and
the protective factors that impact overall adolescent well-being from their perspectives area nonprofits and service clubs use this information to help guide decisions on the resources needed to
locally address reduce and prevent issues this data helps us know how to best support young people during this very critical time developmental time in a student's life so that is my position
what was your motion so my motion is that we give the survey to 8th 9th and 12th graders or 11th graders 8th 9th and 11th there's a motion is there a second i'll second it
all right we have discussion we have a motion and a second we'll open up for discussion well i think the i've been on record of saying i think the student survey provides a wealth of information for our school district but also those agencies
that are working with our kids so i went and looked at some of the analysis from two 2016 to 2022 uh with the help of um sarah and so some of the things that we have found out about our kids um and
i know that i know that uh within the survey there are some there are uh questions there are verbiage there is uh controversial um pieces that um are objective to to folks period we i i understand that i
get that but on the other hand here's some of the things that we've learned from the survey since 2016 since we've been doing this for since 2016 uh there's been a reported increase in mental health issues i think we all understand and know that there's been a rise in anxiety depression of our
students this is all talking about our students uh the um physical and verbal bullying rates remain consistent uh cyber bullying has increased significantly um as far as alcohol tobacco vaping and
drugs um vaping has surged significantly alcohol use has decreased slightly marijuana use has remained steady um as far as how students feel about the teachers fewer students believe the
teachers care about them um there's less of an interest in school um as far as economic and food insecurity uh more students have skipped meals due to financial hardships since is what we have found out more students have
reported housing instability where some students have nowhere to stay as in for a home um race and and and ethnicity um we are predominately a white student population we know we know that um bullying due to race or ethnicity
remains low but is persistent um gender inequity gender identity and uh lgbtq students um they um there's been an increase in students identifying as lgbtq a higher rates of bullying for
those students higher rates of anxiety and depression for the for those students the survey showed um and they feel less likely supported at school those are just some of the areas that we have found out information
about our students which i which in my opinion um helps us as a district serve all students serves all of our students with with uh with their needs so i just i just wanted to clarify i just wanted to bring that up thank you that's why
i'm supportive of it at this point so my question is good information and we've given the survey i think since 2011 haven't we peter well i think it's before that i think so too so it's not since 2016 you know yeah when you guys told us about this before you told us we
didn't give it to the fifth graders well we did give it to the fifth graders in 22 because we have all the results of the fifth graders in 22 and you can look them right up from brainard so you know i have a tough time when i don't get straight facts number two is is i don't know if it's worth $7 million so as good
as that information is is we know that the president of the united states has put everybody on watch for $6.8 million for the brainer school district alexandria was going to give this the survey too at the last minute their board flipped they were four to three
against it superintendent decided it wasn't worth the gamble of the $7 million someone got up here today and told us about maine i don't know if any see what's happening in maine but president trump has pulled all maine's uh uh prison funding because they put a
male in a female prison and now he's pulled their education funding and so you know chairman spear sent us out a letter like i mean did like this is your opinion of it like i don't know if it's a legal
opinion or what we're what we're hanging our hat on there with your deal but to me it's like i i i don't know how it's worth the risk for the benefit you know it's the risk benefit program they're going to teach people's personal finance risk benefit what's the benefit compared
to the risk we are going to be $3 million in the hole this year hopefully uh between peter and marcy lord they can come up with some miracles and maybe it comes down to two you know but regardless we're in the tank we're going to have to make some hard choices next year and here we are because of
something like this which is to me is a little political uh we're going to get in the weeds we got 999 kids that have opted out of our school we could say that enrollment's down all over the country you know uh we talked this
weekend why is it because of things like this maybe not maybe some you'd have to admit that it doesn't help right i read some of those questions today mental health if i was trying to figure out the list of genders that they have listed on some
of those tests i think i might have mental health problems too cuz i can't even figure out which one i might be i mean it's like holy cow it's just like it's foolish it's confusing let's stop the stop it for 7 million bucks i mean can we just wait three more years
well this is going to come back we're not like this is the last time this is ever going to happen again we won't even get the results for what a year i just think that that the person that we got in the white house isn't acting like a like a normal government politician they've sent two letters to the state of
minnesota our attorney general right now is in so much trouble because of this feeding our future fraud thing for a quarter billion dollars that i would be surprised if he's still in office come the 4th of july um and we're going to go with what they're saying like i just don't know if it's worth the you know if
it's worth the risk you know i don't know maybe it is uh i can guarantee you i'm voting against it just because of that right there i don't want to have to be the person that's trying to figure out how to cut another 7 million bucks out of this budget and that's a lot of money we're already in trouble and it's
like to me if you take the three plus the seven that's that's that's 10% of our of our general budget i mean like i don't know what the benefit is i i just want the kids to be smart i want the teachers to have a good time i i
want to get the bullying under control i don't think the survey is going to fix the bullying john we have to fix the bullying peter you need to fix the bullying the principles need to fix the bullying we need to change our procedures we need to change the way we're running the schools to help with this bullying it's all over the place by
the way i think that there's been bullies ever since the crack of time probably since there's been people just watch the darn gone birds there are a lot of bullies out there with them you know i don't think it's okay i don't think it's funny but i don't think that us giving a survey is going to fix the
bullying problem we need to change our policies we need to change our procedures we need to change what we're doing to help with the bullying and i and then even when we do all that if we were perfect there'll still be some bullying i believe um anyways that's where i'm voting uh i
liked the deal better that you had before i thought that was a little bit more of a fair shake um i wasn't ready for everything to change but regardless so that's where i'm at i don't know i'm i'm not going to talk the whole night
but i mean i if i was a parent i'd be looking at trust you know i'm trusting you like the last time this happened i told john it's one of the reasons i'm on the school board i had so many employees and customers coming up to me and showing me these questions especially for the
little kids that they couldn't believe it and so you know i sent a letter to the school board and i had one school board member respond to me um which we'll just leave previous school board the previous school board because there's nobody left that was on it um maybe were you on here sarah the
first time just get you might have just got here i think i didn't get on in june january oh you might have been here but anyhow i don't know i don't you know i know that the opt outs were real hit and miss you know if
i was when i was in eighth grade if the teacher gave me something to take home and give it to my parents the odds of them getting it in the next 10 days weren't real good you know probably got underneath the seat of the bus or was in my backpack or it was smashed in like this or that you know it's like you know
they're young people um so i know that there's a lot of animosity about it peekquat didn't give this survey pillager didn't give this survey crosby did give the survey piers has opted out of the survey and little falls has opted out of the survey so we're going to be
the big red riding hood that's going to carry the torch for mde i think that the downside's a lot bigger than the upside but i will quit talking i too will be uh voting against giving any kind of a survey more and
more school districts are opting out it's becoming a trend that's not the reason why i'm ving against this uh the monetary risk is great uh some people have talked about the fact that there's grant money that's going to be
provided let me ask this question the county seems to be very interested in the survey uh because of the possibility of losing funds for mental health and related grants
but when we go talk to them about truency and where our kids are at ain't got money ain't got staff but because they're going to receive some money potentially through this that's another reason i am i'm not interested
there's too much of a financial risk and um to me this is more it has nothing to do with education it has nothing to do with proficiency of students uh it's it's almost like you know we're an academic
institution uh we're not um how do i want to say it i better look at my note here otherwise i'll get myself in trouble we're not a therapeutic institution now what i mean by that is this we want to screen people we want to make sure our students are
being taken care of but our main goal is academics we're not a therapeutic organization and it just seems like a lot of these questions are so i mean they're they're so appalling that i as a
parent i'm going to raise my children the way i see fit i'm not going to rely on the school or mde or anyone else and it just seems like we're we're turning over so much and taking away parental
rights um it's um it's not right and uh as director dinger said there's there's things that we need to do here uh from the standpoint of bullying and stuff like
that we need to handle that here i mean our our issues up here are a lot different than they are in the metro area i think we would all agree with that and i i i i just don't to me there's no
there's no value in providing the survey and i will be voting against any grade taking the survey i'm done one thing is i called deborah ericson at the county and
michelle you straightened me out on this at the retreat the county doesn't receive any money whether we take this survey or not so don't let anybody fool you that the county is getting that much money now there are a few organizations in the county that qualify for some small grants but the county itself gets
zero dollars whether we our kids take this survey or not that won't sway my vote i mean i just no i just wanted no thank you no no thank you for clarifying that i'm just just not interested in these questions are just so over-the-top invasive yes i will
not be vulgar either um i agree with dj and randy questions they're asking i feel like okay i have one right here during the last 12 months how many different partners have you had sex with
and they have five different answers why does the state need to know that i mean that that's for a parent and a child to talk about i had to feel like that's not for us or do did you drink alcohol or use drugs before you had sex
the last time yes or no really that that has nothing to do with academics with what the kids should be learning in school asking them this sort of stuff and i don't want to lose that funding there's a lot more questions that i ran out i ran off all the questions and i
just was wow wow and this is for ninth graders i didn't do the fifth grade ones i did for the ninth graders so um yeah i can't believe some of the questions have you has everybody read all the questions for all grades and
just to clarify the kids don't get all of those questions it's a line of questioning so for example the one about how many sexual partners have you had you wouldn't get that unless you went down a choose your own adventure that said i've participated in sexual
behavior and so not all kids get all questions it's it only pertains to you if you've um participated in those kinds of activities this was right off the this was the i mean they'll give you every question
that is part of the survey but not every kid gets every question it is only if you answer if you answer yes to that question then you may get more questions regarding that but if you answer no you'll move on to the next se section
because because that won't all of those questions won't pertain to you if you haven't participated in sexual activity then it's a moot point so they skip over what you're saying but the survey that i received had all the questions so
like they take it electronically and so once you take when you when you press a button that you go down a a certain travel way if you say yes you'll get a line of questioning and if you say no then you get a different line of questioning so not all kids get all the
questions but yeah that's a good point the other thing i would i would say and i i think this is right randy you said our issues are not are different than the metro and um if if we're using this
survey to point out what kinds of help and support our district needs and there's a void there we there's no voice coming from brainer that doesn't help us that doesn't help us at the state level because as we know the money follows the
problems and follows the issues and you can point to some programs at the state level that have been put into place because of these state surveys and so the more we opt out um the metro schools are just laughing all the way to the bank and all the way to their great
programs and supports that they're getting well look at their numbers and i think that um you know if we i i think there's no connection between this issue and the $7 million at the federal level i i believe
that that decision is made by the minnesota department of education because they are the funer they receive that $7 million and they disperse it to school districts we we have no part in that
it does not matter at all what we say to the national government to the state government they they get that $7 million and they disperse it so they are the gatekeepers to that money and they've made a decision on how the state will
react to that and good bad or other faith in their decision they're the gatekeepers it made it their decision because the money goes directly to the state it doesn't you don't think that that someone like me could go and say there's 341 or 343 school districts in
the state of minnesota and then i could just keep track of who did what and just cut yours and give it to them and give it to you and give it to you and then not give it to them and just send it to the state of minnesota they're not just going to go and say "well we're going to give you half of brainards or half of so and so's because you know because
trump's being mean." i mean it's like i i don't know i don't think it's worth the risk i don't i don't who the minnesota department of education willie jet he's got the the gumption to take on this guy that's taken on the whole world i don't know what are we messing around with him for but what i what i'm
saying is there's no connection between that $7 million and and this survey i don't believe there is because the state of minnesota makes that decision about where the funds go and they're not going to look at us and say "oh they took the
survey let's not give them funding that's i just don't see that happening if if anything they might look at us and say they didn't take the survey and we really want people to take it it might be a different scenario so they're not going to get the money okay well whatever we're going to disagree on that
one madam chair what happens if the state of minnesota doesn't get a dime from the federal government yeah what happens a dime you want to know what happens all school districts that's what's going to potentially happen in may you want to know what happens that's what's going to happen in maine the
disabled kids the poverty kids the kids that need special needs those kids are going to be the ones that are going to have to brunt the whole thing that's what's going to happen cuz that title one money and that federal money are basically for the kids that have the greatest needs in
our schools period so that's your answer randy our our our poorest and most needy kids are going to get screwed i'm sitting right next to you i can hear i happen to work with those kids for 34 years and know a little bit about those
kids as well and i'm not going to vote on something because somebody said something somebody said i'm going to put all these tariffs on these countries and then a week later oh no i'm going to take them off doesn't make any difference no wait a minute wait a minute now dj oh i'm going to i'm going
to put a 124% tariff on china now i'm going to take some of that off i'm not going to go and vote on something that i believe is good for our kids now i'm when i when we talked about this before i said "let's do our own survey." the only problem i have one with 15 questions on it from one of our
neighbors schools that does the job just fine and we could say totally legal and not risk our deal and you could find out who's not living at home and you can find all the things you want and i offered that up to you and it's no problem i have it right here i can read you the questions they did it right in one of the neighborhood schools within
40 miles of here they did their own and they stayed legal and they stayed out of trouble and everything it's not a big deal the only thing about that is the reli reliability and validity of a test it does not does not come when you make your own your own tool but having said
that um you know i i'm not opposed to having to try to do our own our own test i would i would like to see how many kids are not having a place to stay at home tonight how many kids are missing meals i don't have a problem with the data i don't know that i'm interested in how many times how many drinks they have
before they have sex i'm not sure that's my business but there's a school right here down the road that just did this they took a couple principles and and a half a dozen teachers and they wrote out their own deals of what they're seeing in their own classrooms their own lunchrooms and they made their own survey and it's pretty simple and it's
about 20 questions maybe 15 18 20 22 and it's pretty much a lot of the same stuff that was on uh sarah's thing that she showed us from 16 to 22 i mean i don't know we don't have to take any risk
and i respect what you guys are talking about and what people have talked about coming up here i respect your opinions i understand your opinions i get that my my take is these kids we need to do we need to find out what the needs of the
kids are and this survey provides that yes it goes overboard in some areas um for sure um but i think it's important that we find out the needs of our children in this district you know that yubidabics thing i sent you out of
georgetown ubidomics or whatever out of georgetown university yep they got some pretty good articles in there i was reading an article about surveys like this and you know what it says that a lot of these kids think that when they tell you that they've been abused at their house that helps coming and when the help doesn't come they feel even
more left out because they feel as though when they check that box that someone's going to come and help them and when no one comes and helps them it makes them feel even more distant michelle would have a better word for it than i do because you spent your whole life in this industry you know forgotten
you know i mean i i don't know i don't think this is a perfect deal i i don't think this other thing that i told you about is a perfect deal either but i don't think it's worth you know it's it's it's worth the the rub isn't worth it you know i just think it's too dangerous john i appreciate your
passion uh but let me ask you this question you were in the education business for how many years 34 that's a long time will anything change because we take a state survey or if we do our own survey
i would hope if if if it comes out and if it's valid and reliable and it shows that we need to do something within our district to um help protect um educate or whatever a change that's
needed in our district i would hope so why wouldn't we take every opportunity we can to learn about the kids in our district i just it's be i don't understand why it's so important to me when i look at this to know in 2016 we
had about 2 to 4% of our students say they didn't have housing stability they were living in cars or or sofa surfing in 2022 that was 12% what's it going to be this year okay so you say and what have you done on it
then if it's 12% what has been done on those students that haven't had housing since you've had the results what have you done on it i personally haven't done anything but i look out in our community and they use this information i mean if you look at some of the ship grant money
that goes to the actually to programs in our sui suicide prevention program in the high school the sources of strength the make it okay stigma campaign the tobacco coalition the one vegetable one community all of these
things are they look at that data and they figure out what programs need to come to this area where the support is for our students this is a huge slap in the face for our supporters out in the community when they're like "you're not going to provide us with data and we're trying to help your kids and and we have
no idea where to bring the support or what it looks like." i mean i i'm confounded on i i i think it's a winwin because definitely kids can opt out and i think parents should have that opportunity if they don't want their kids to take it let's
make sure we do a great job communicating that and they have prior notice and that half hour that's spent in that that they don't have to be a part of it i i think that's absolutely an important option and there are kids
in our schools that are relying on us getting this data so that the community sports out in our community have it and can act on it i don't feel good about letting them down i bet you that if if i just took out a
piece of paper i could write down the 10 biggest problems that we have i'd get nine of them right and i'll bet you could and stephanie you've only been doing this for a few months and i'll bet you could and i know you could michelle and i'm sure that we all could without a survey we already know what the problems
are i mean what's new bathrooms scared to go to school gonna get bullied cyber bullying you know depression it's always the same but whatever might as well just vote
why can't we opt out of this survey and do our own survey and put together questions that we think are important for our communities we absolutely could and i think that's something we could take on but the
reliability of it and the validity of it is not the same the trend lines that we already have going back to 2011 are not the same it's it's like starting over with data which is fine um and somebody has to take that on to make it a
reliable survey for as many students as we have in this district it's it's adding work to somebody's job would you be would uh board members be the motion on the floor is for 58 911 no
8 9 and 11 8 911 okay um would you be opposed to just doing 911 or 11 you know the one those of you that have spoken against doing the survey at all well the most in the most
over-the-top invasive questions are with the older ser with the older uh students yeah i understand that and i don't think and i i i don't disagree with you as far as disab that would be wrong but i
well that's the same talking points as they're talking about getting rid of the department of education that's the talking points nationally for the administration saying they're going to get rid of the united states department of education is that these work these kids are going to really be
in trouble well we don't know that no one said they were cutting funding they're just getting rid of the 12,000 people that work at the department of education so we don't know the experts well they could be the experts but they're their results aren't real great
we used to be in the top of the pile and in a mere 45 years we're now down to 40th out of the 40th wealthiest countries in the in the world so whose fault is that maybe we are we going to blame the teachers i don't think the teachers are any different we going to blame the kids i don't think the kids
are any different kids pop out the same i got to think that maybe the parenting isn't quite the same as it was um you know i mean that's what i hear is that it's not quite as you know it's not quite the same as it was but what else has changed i don't think that teachers
decide they didn't want to teach i don't think principles decide they don't want to have smart kids come out of their schools i don't think super i don't think anyone's got bad intentions i mean it's no different than a why did sears have 87% of the market and lose it and go down to nothing practically because
walmart came in had a better plan kmart came in before them and so when you keep doing things the same or you keep grad you know you keep going down this road sometimes you know you can't see the forest through the trees and you know that's what's happening it's like
there's going to be a change things are going to change and i think that we can help these kids and i don't know what this is going to do to help it once again here we are at a board meeting you know someone got up here and talked about noise today uh mr uh
hagstead and someone got up here and talked he got up here and talked about the noise and he's right because here we are wasting all of our time arguing about the survey maybe we're maybe i'm wrong about the survey maybe you're wrong about the survey i don't know but here we are instead of worrying about the grades and how to help the teachers
get better grades and how to get more kids to quit skipping school and fix our truency problems and figure out how to get it so it's a better environment we're wasting time on this survey but r tj everything you're saying and and and
it's talking about bullying tendons we can get those answers from from a survey it doesn't tell us how to fix it though it just tells us what the problem is well i could like i said i can tell you what the problem is already where does it say in the survey how we fix it i didn't say that no it didn't but you
know what i'm saying it's like we all know what the problem yeah i mean see michelle wants to talk no well you do just the organizations that look at the data are the ones that have the experience and expertise to develop the programs that are going to support these
students let me make a recommendation i just um i just think it's an we're just enabling again and we're not even we're not focusing on the kids as far as their academic and it's a it's an an adult behavior and we sit and we talk about it
and yeah how do we fix it though that's the most important thing the one thing i would say though and i think um probably as a teacher in a classroom and we've talked about this as a board is that when a student shows up they show up as
who they are in the classroom these 12% of kids that showed up that just got out of their car because that's where they slept they come to the classroom with a different need than me who got a full night's sleep in my bed and so i i think yes as as a teacher you
tell teachers just go teach that's that's the worst thing you could say because that's just not going to happen you can't push information into a child i think we all recognize that you can't push it into a child you have to teach the whole child that shows up and so the
more we know about those children when they show up the better job we can do that hasn't changed though has it i mean i don't know how long since she taught but john you talked for 34 years didn't you know that this kid needed you to be a little more concerned and maybe give him a little bit of a hug every now and
then and this one over here we need a little kick in the butt glad you said that because the student changed from year 1973 to 2006 i bet big time big time and there's still education changed
from 1973 to 2006 big time why the society also changed from 200 adults adults my sales meeting has changed too let me tell you i can't do the same things we used to do you you ask me question yeah i know that's what
i mean it's the same thing you know i just figured that grant i think you have um suggestion i appreciate your discussion um i've been in education as long as you john um my struggle with this
is going into this agenda it's not put in a priority list but there are priorities in the agenda um we had christine up here talking about data and since i've been
here since july 1st you guys have wanted data till you can't see it any longer um we we have this last presentation about kids needing to learn finance because um it's become a weaponization
of their pocketbook kids have much more money today than i ever thought about having as a kid that age so i appreciate all the dynamics you're fighting and unfortunately most of them are social they are social driven they are
politically driven they're not student driven somebody wants something for something and it just so happens we happen to have the vehicle they want the most information from our kids and um i don't disagree that we
need to know more about our kids i do agree we are becoming invasive in what they're thinking as 12y olds do i really want to know what a 12-year-old's thinking on one day of the year do i want to know
what a 18-year-old is thinking on one day of the year probably not because i probably either going to be disappointed or very happy and because you are in a in a tough spot you have supporters and and to do the survey you have supporters
that don't do the survey you can't win but you're elected to make a decision right now you're at an impass and john i think you brought up the best solution how about a compromise this all started with maybe
we should just do grade 11 and let things settle see what happens in the future with where this survey is going i'm going to tell you this if there's a change in minnesota's um political ground this is all going to change
whoever gets elected governor is going to choose the chair or the commissioner of education whoever the commissioner of education is he's going to push whatever the agenda is of the governor doesn't matter republican democrat independent it doesn't matter and i'm going to say
this one time they don't care about our kids they don't care about them it's i have 10 grandkids i care about them i'm tired of the politics i'm tired
of the bs coming out of i don't care if it's st paul i don't care if it's washington dc i don't care if it's from iowa we're we're supposed to be brainard warriors what's a warrior going to do
what would a warrior say what would a warrior expect what's best for our kids but we're at an impass so what do we do you can't go home and pound the
table you got to compromise that's what a republic is about you compromise you come up with a solution you're not going to get everything you want but it's about our
kids it's not about us and we're making decisions for our kids but we're not talking about kids we're talking about how we feel about our stupid politics my mother and father would be so
ashamed if they saw what i was doing today to fight for education and for kids i just ask you you got to get out of the game of politics focus on our kids focus on our
school focus on our teachers support them we're not ever going to win the argument this way in fact we're going to lose every argument this way support the kids you want to know things about them i don't want to know
about their sex life it's none of my business but i do care if they're hurting i care if they're poor i care if they're hungry i care if they want a better education
that's what's i'm supposed to be responsible for i can't control what society is thinking about personally every one of us in this room has something different how are we going to make it
work it's about the kids in this district that should only matter right now we need to figure it out a compromise john you i think you were right on let's find out something about our
juniors they're the closest to having the biggest problems in their life right now cuz they're going out the door in 12 months what are they going to do about their society we can't change it for them but
we can help them learn and they can change it no offense to all of us gray hairs in this room our day is over we have tried to do the best we can it's the next group of
people but we got to be standing up for kids i don't care what else you can throw anything else at me fine if it isn't about kids i don't really want to hear about it anymore because we're never going to get where we need to get if we don't focus
on kids yes they need our emotional support they need our hugs our kisses and every once in a while a backhand but they need our support and we only do it because we're
adults who have lived that life and we think we know pretty well what we did right and what we did wrong we want them to learn about it but in the meantime we're spinning our wheels over things we have no control over so john i appreciate your
compromise offer because as a board you have to compromise on things that you don't want to but that's the only way we move forward i don't get what i want all the time i'm not going to tip over and pound on the ground and be you know
raining and crying and everything else i move on because the next hill is going to be bigger than the one i just finished i just ask you as a community move on don't look back look forward and if
you remember that was our theme this year don't look back look forward it's too expensive if we don't and we're going to lose big time that's all i ask of you
thank you thank you thank you peter so we have a motion on the floor currently to opt out of grade of giving the survey to grade five and we have a second anybody like
to amend that motion yes say that was it a motion to um give the survey to eth 9th and 11th grade to give the survey to eth 9th and 11th and opt out of grade five right okay you
asked if there was an amended motion would anybody like to make an amendment before we vote on this i'll move an amendment i'm sorry randy go ahead i would like to um make a motion that
we do our own survey put it together we've got the questions you talked about reliability we have questions let's put a survey together let's give it to the kids but i i i totally agree with superintendent grant i don't care we don't need to know about personal issues
with these kids i mean i it's just do we need to know if they're sleeping in a car yeah damn right we do there's important things let's do our own survey and we talk about reliability well let's use some of the questions in that survey and and not use some of them uh etc
we've got a motion on the floor currently to deal with and then we can come back to this if need be um i'll amend them my second initially to um to give the survey to the 11th
graders only i'll second it let's get something done okay we've got go ahead we've got a motion and a second on an amendment to give the survey to 11th grade only we'll vote on
the amendment and then we'll go back and vote on the motion as amended uh to complete the motion so go ahead say that again we'll vote on the amendment first the amendment the amendment is to to
to give it to the 11th grade only okay and then we'll go back to the main motion then which becomes the actual motion to give the survey to 11th graders i know it sounds really repetitive okay what about my amended
motion where we we do a we we we put together our own survey that's a separate motion we can take on unless you okay so um we've got an amendment to give the survey to 11th graders um
only all those in favor of that amendment to the motion signify by saying i oppose the same no all right so we'll move on motion passes
we'll move on then to the amended motion which now reads to give the survey to 11th graders only sorry i know that sounds ridiculous but that's robert's rules of order um and that original one was your your
original motion all right any further discussion on the motion at hand which is to give the survey to 11th graders only all those in favor please signify by saying i i i oppose the same no
motion passes it says roll call on our list yeah it's a resolution no no no it isn't it shouldn't be roll sorry about that yeah yeah i am really proud of this board i'm super proud of superintendent
grant thank you for your impassionate words great job all right we do have a fourth action item um that was added to the agenda which is to put the agendas back in the newspaper
um anybody want to make that motion well i already made it once so i can make it again so you can make it again thanks i'll second it awesome all right we got a motion and a second any further discussion question yes when do we have to have the agenda given to the dispatch
so it does get printed as a full agenda kelly by thursday thursday prior to the monday meeting saturday so thursday do we do we want to adjust our the agenda review meeting well you guys can
do that on your on the side you don't need us to vote on when you have the agenda review but but the other thing to make note of and i apologize it was my fault that uh we had changes to the agenda today so i appreciate that thank you superintendent grant and thank you
um director heidman for being part of that as well um and just to note that we as a board we can make changes to the agenda up until the time of the meeting and it then it becomes an an amended agenda so even the one that's produced
publicly um can be changed any time before the meeting and during the meeting obviously we just did that today so i would like to know what the cost difference is between um posting the agenda in the discussion not posting the
agenda it depends on the length of it because you create per line per line what are you asking the cost of it was about 300 bucks per month to post someone told me that there there
is no charge but is it is that for online edition or is it the print edition or what i have i i'll i'll try to find out more information for when we get together next we do that all right so we've got an action item to put the
agendas back in the newspaper we've got a motion and a um any further discussion i mean if the if the agenda can be changed up until the day of maybe there just needs to be better
communication to the board that the agenda is being changed prior to us meeting here so it isn't a surprise when you walk in right yeah that would make me i'm sorry i got a little snappy but it's like what on earth is going on yeah we can take that as as an action item
rather than an action to put it in the newspaper so we're all going to vote against this is what we're saying all right all those in favor signify by saying i i no no no all those opposed to putting it in
the newspaper signify by saying i i i all right do we have to do that again or that makes sense to you kelly okay are we putting in the papers that we're doing no we're not putting in the paper but we are going to be notified if
any changes of any changes up until the time we're going to do a better job communicating and hopefully this does i mean this is the first time i've made changes and i apologize for that but um i think we'll end up back in the paper i've had people
complaining you know the city did this too and the city found a free way to do it though absolutely which maybe you could talk to them and figure it out but so we're just going to do the notice is what we're doing yes and we'll communicate better on the agenda yeah we'll take care of that yes we will okay
all right um i know it's getting late here so i'm going to keep us moving a little bit next up we've got committee updates the legislative committee met and we talked about keep me honest dj um the spendown of the esther funds from
the last of those we talked about some upcoming agreements that are coming to an end school portraits re school resource officers and student transportation that we'll have to watch for and the big one was we we got an
overview of the projected 2526 budget in kind of a um first look at that so it was a great meeting uh next up we've got someformational reports brandon public schools foundation director edan um the
board approved a 5500 total in grants to be divided evenly to each district school building to purchase inventory for the school pantries to support students in need over half of these dollars came from the warrior war
initiative it is starting to and they are also starting to collect gently used warrior gear for resale to support our school pantries um they also held three grant cycles and awarded nearly
$80,000 in 4a grants this school year and then the scholarship recognition night is on may 21st they will again be awarding over $180,000 in scholarships to graduating seniors
awesome did you say $180,000 $180,000 the fundraising has been going really they've been doing a really good job thank you for that all right the safe and welcoming schools committee director
breen yep so the safe and welcoming schools committee which was formerly the equity task force um continues to work on the interrupter campaign by creating verbiage responses for staff to use to model interrupting the purpose of
interrupting by staff is to stop harmful language in the moment and in front of all students who heard it and to model for students how they can also use interrupter language this will also be in place for fun and friends summer programming to help build communities
that are safe and welcoming for all students thank you and the wellness task okay so uh wellness task force has been really busy the first thing is that the hope
chatbot from smiles for jake is in brainer in brainard minnesota is a digital tool designed to provide immediate accessible mental health support for students and community members um the bot offers resources coping strategies positive affirmations
to promote emotional well-being it serves as a confidential space where users can explore mental health topics find encouragement connect with additional support services as if needed um which is reinforcing smiles for jake mission to spread hope and reduce the
stigma around mental health so the hopebot has been put added to clevver so all students have access to their on their chromebooks and for staff or community members who do not have access to clevver it is added to the district
website and then i think ryan has a short video he can show it's like 50 seconds explaining how to use the whole bot yep well i don't know where you are but i am here smiles for jake on the shores of
the brainer lakes area and we know that spring soon becomes summer and with that change and sometimes life brings changes unwanted changes and uh oh frankly it's okay to not be okay sometimes but smiles for jake and living with smiles has a resource not only for you as educators
but for your students their friends their families their loved ones it's on your clever home screen it's called living with smiles when you click on it you will meet our bot hope hope is there to have a guided conversation for those in need or wanting assistance with their
mental health and wellness it's anonymous it's free take advantage check it out and uh hey hey remember smile on well i don't know where you are okay um
uh crowing county and crow crowing energized and blade are excited to welcome tanner clark to brainer public schools thursday for warrior day april 17th um it will be at the bhs bhs will
have it at the get zb per performing arts center at 9:15 to 10:15 or 11 to 11:45 and forest view will have it at the middle school um at 1 from 1:45 to 2:30 um he is the host of the second
strength podcast he uses social media for good to teach teens about digital dangers and to help them overcome distractions so they can live up to their potential and find happiness we're extending an invitation to any schoolboard member who would like to
attend so thursday get you zb in the morning or middle school cafeterium in the afternoon and then my last item is there were 10 or 12 community members trained in project 11 on march
31st as a reminder project 11 is a k12 curriculum that supports deepening an understanding of how to be well through supporting wellness practices and educating students about mental wellness and brain health we now have access to
the curriculum and are in conversation with briner public schools as to how to best bring this program to students in the 19 uh or in the 202526 school year and smiles for jake is also offering to provide advocacy training to forest view
staff um at end of year staff training day and they are also in the planning stages of providing advocacy training to the full staff during teacher workshops so that's what i have thank you right next we have business services
report marcy lord doesn't know any better um so i have the financial report in your packet nothing new to note i'm just going to comment that the next month the budget revision will was approved in march so next month will be compared to
the revised budget versus the original um and then the presentation earlier tonight on the playground you know jill was like comment on that so we had set aside 150,000 per um for three sites in 2425 forest view riverside welk we got
forest views done so this next year in 2526 we're going to focus on riverside welk and um baxter elementary and that's coming out of the construction funds you got it um and then the enrollment report is also in there from the
beginning of the year we're down 68 and the average is about 87 so we're we're actually doing better and then also the uh adm budget column got updated with the revised budget it's no longer the preliminary so is those online kids are
they showing up in here yes good yeah they are on there any other questions welcome back marie have i asked you how much were we could lose uh because of the new
definition of compensatory revenue uh that the mde uh has come up with yep so right now we're projected to go down about 700,000 we're going to lose 700,000 of the new calculation method yep wow and the reason that is is i saw
it on that ma thing wh what why why is that happening so instead of taking because of the free lunch reduced that that's what's killing us isn't it so it's going to be direct certification problems i mean everything they touch so some districts are opting out of free lunch the free lunch program and if you
talk to our director thompson she can tell you all the reasons why we should not do that okay how many are out i mean it was the only one that was out was prior lake that i knew of they were the only as far as i knew they were the only one in the state and the great thing about opting out
which we could have this meeting on the side someday y is um you don't have to follow the national food program that's where the trouble comes in you know uh i think it was mrs obama that came up with that deal and so they claim that you'll
have this big football player that gets a 3 uh chicken breast and you know it's like that's kind of a weird there's some weird dynamics to the national food program that when you get off of it you can opt out of that and then you have to do the free food thing and they
reimburse you like we used to do and what we have now and i think in those districts there's maybe not as high of free and reduced and that's why it's not going to affect them if they opt out oh really okay they're pretty people i mean if you want to talk to them i could hook
you up they're pretty happy but you probably know where i thank you marcy yeah thank you all right superintendent report i think i've said enough i apologize for
you don't need to you don't have to anyway um i did have a really good opportunity to go to welk and read a book pete the cat um i had to sing i'm glad nobody no adults
were hearing me because the kids were great though they helped me sing but um that was a lot of fun i do have some concerns with legislative issues um it's being proposed to delink um inflation factor from the per pupil unit um marcy would have said that's
about 2.74% change so they're going to say we didn't do anything but they did and you didn't know it that's in the senate yeah it's in the senate not in the house and there's a
also a proposal that for the first year of the bianium a 0% on the formula and the next year year two they would take out 687 million so what we're looking at if all things were steady will be
flat but that depends on what you consider flat there's going to be a slope going in the wrong direction so they haven't made it you know now the the bills are in committees and so forth
um it's not looking good at this point so we got to do our job to call and write and talk um a 0% increase is a about a minus 3% because you have inflation so we're going to we got to
battle and hopefully we're not going to lose thank you when will all this be done end of may i mean may 19th is the scheduled date but you know that he's going to go for an extension he did he has every year hasn't he well well they fought for
the first 60 days all right gang we're gonna have this conversation well nothing got going they didn't get started because they were we've got some future meetings on there you can take a look um a bunch of uh committee meetings this week so fine arts and activities
celebration was tonight unfortunately we missed out on that um and a bunch of other stuff there okay are we talking about a retreat at elpu we are okay so if we could hang out for a second after this and nail down a date for kelly that would be great um i'll entertain a
motion to adjurnn i'll make it second thank you uh all those in favor signify by saying i i i oppose the same all right thanks you guys thanks for being part of the marathon