bring this back to uh call the meeting back to order. It is now 3:26 in the afternoon. Uh we have Jory Carlson, one of the staff here with us. And uh Jory, uh we're looking forward to hearing what you and the staff have to say. So go ahead. All right, Mr. Mayor, thank you
so much. And to the council, all of you guys, thank you for letting us be a part of this process. This is this is huge. So absolutely. Um, so we'll just start out in the order of how we we uh we saw them with Josh. Yep. Josh seems be super
easy to work with. He's very personable. Uh seems to be a very good problem solver. Um he's willing to step in for any position that we may need him in. He uh even so far as said he was going to get his CDL to help out his old city just because that's what they needed of
him at the time. Um he's very open and honest. um very friendly and approachable. Uh but he's obviously very smart, so he can learn many many different things on the fly and and and as we needed him to. Um community oriented. You can tell that by being on
the fire department, all the things he did with the ambulance, uh services and everything that he did. And uh we just feel like, you know, he would be a long-term fit for that. So that's kind of what we had for Josh.
Um now for Ally also very personable, very uh very capable, confident young lady. She is, you know, she she was just like I said, she just was very confident when she when she was there. Uh she has a vast knowledge of the system that that
we have in place as far as the IT stuff, anything like that. Uh she also would be able to step right in and help out with anything I think we needed, especially, you know, in in that office environment where, you know, she would be most needed, I think, you know, right away.
Um Carrie Carrie also qualified. She obviously has the most experience of everybody. Um and and the thing with her is what you see is what you get. It is right there for, you know, she's not going to she, you know, she's not going to sugarcoat anything. She's going to tell you exactly what's going on. And
you know that is that is a wonderful trait as well. And uh she is also very budget conscious and fiscally responsible with the money. I think she has the best interest of making sure that we don't you know whatever city that she ends up with you know they don't overstep or overreach or get
themselves in a bind. So that was all good things. I think all three of them would would fit. You know I don't think there's really a wrong choice. With that being said, our recommendation was Joss. Just the way he came in, the way, you
know, he presented himself and he just, like I said, that long-term fit, I think was kind of where we were going with that. And I think Josh would be a great, you know, addition to the city. So, well, thanks Jory for your input. Do the council members have anything from Jory?
Any follow-up questions or anything they'd like to add or ask? Now's the time. Just thank you. I think you covered it all. I mean, I think we're in a very good position. I mean, we have three very qualified candidates. Thank you, Michael. It uh um it's going to be
a tough decision because everybody can step in and do the job and be a benefit to the city. Um work with staff, council. Um it's a good problem to have. Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Jerry. We appreciate your time and thank the
staff, too. We really appreciate their input. It's very valuable to us and we want them to be a part of the process and that's why you were involved. So, thank you. Appreciate it. Yep. Yep. All right. Well, so we are at the point now. We got staff comments and we
are now at city council deliberation. So, basically, we've reached that point where we've got three candidates in front of us. um and to look at what we want to do moving forward. And I think
um man, I'll just start. I all three of them are good. I mean, I I'm impressed with all three of them. Uh they each bring their own qualities, but there's some things there that resonate across the board. I heard communication a lot.
I heard that um experience-wise uh I think a couple of them may have a little more of experience in certain areas but that doesn't mean that other that doesn't uh couldn't easily learn it. I guess that's
where kind I am. So, I'm trying to look at where can we hit the ground running the fastest and I'm being honest about that because we have so much we need to do and accomplish and thinking about who's going to handle that coming at them the best because there's going to
be a lot and and so um I guess for me when I looked at the three they were all really equal right now I would lean a little towards Ally, maybe Carrie. Um, maybe
not in that order. I almost see him as a tie in that aspect. I like Josh. I really do. I think he would do a great job as well. So, that that's the challenge we have. I think all three of them are very clearly qualified and I don't think we would make a wrong choice no matter what we went with. I think
they all can do the job. So, it's going to come down to in my mind the little details that we pick out that we think can make the difference. So, I'll just leave it at that and I want to hear what the rest of the council's got to say and whoever wants to start fire away.
Yeah, I can go. Um, I need my mic. Yep. Not prepared to go. Um, yeah, I do think they're all three are qualified. I think for me it probably came down to just the interview.
Um, and even that was hard because I think I liked Josh a lot. Um, and then I liked Ally. And then Carrie to me it may have been just been her personality and how she came across is I don't know. Um, I she would probably be
my third choice. Again, they're all qualified. So, I think between Josh and Ally, I probably would have chose Ally. But that's more I think some of the things that she said I liked about like the way she would communicate
with um like the city, some of those ideas that she had. Um like really focused on that transparency side of things.
Um, you know, I like that she focused on like stability, um, and and being able to sort of help with that. Um, and she knew like things about the city. Like I feel like she had done did her research done her research
and I thought that was Yep. very evident in her answers which wasn't always true for the other two. Correct. Um, correct. I and I would echo that. She definitely did her homework. Yeah. when she talked about knowing about that we were going to increase sewer rates. That's just
something we recently talked about. So, she either went and looked at our council minutes or watched the meeting or did something like that to understand that was going on. So, that was, you know, she had done her homework there and looked at that and she'd made a couple other comments about a couple other things that I noticed that she
definitely had paid attention to the details. So, yeah. But I think for me it's between Josh and Ally. I think I would lean toward toward more towards Ally, but Yep. Yeah. All right. Thank you. All good. Thank you, Council Member Jensen. Um, well, it was I mean, we have
three strong candidates. Um, I think everybody is a good fit with staff and and that was a high priority. Yep. for me. um based on previously what had happened. Um I think Josh and Ally in my
opinion were the two I was leaning towards. But Ally to me the depth of her answers and her understanding of communication and you know did her homework. I think she stood
out above Josh and I like Josh and I think he would step right in. Um, but Alli's understanding of all the issues and her background and experience. Um, because we need, in my opinion, the city, we need continuity for staff.
Yeah. Council, the community. We the city hasn't had this in a while and and it to me it it it we need it. Um because we have I mean just with the projects that you listed we have a lot on our plate. I mean this year is kind of a
holding pattern whomever we make an offer to it's you know getting up to speed and then you know hit the ground running you know in 2026. But um my choice would be Ally. I was very very impressed
um with her expertise and just the depth of her answers. Thank you, Council Member Jensen. Council member not much new to add. Um you know, all three of them again, uh interviewed very well. Um Ally did come back with the stronger
answers. What what resonated me with the most was her personality on how she approached those answers. It wasn't just facts. was, you know, she was kind of trying to make a personal touch with with a lot of those things and, you know, her open and willingness to be team team player. Um, you know, that was
resonated. The homework that she did that stood out. Um, she launched the communications for Minister Sta. Um, and that's something that we need to bring back. So, that that was a strong suit in my eyes of being able to hit that and get that back established. Not necessarily in her role, but at least
established and um on how that's going to be maintained. Um Josh, I I I I think that that he interviewed well as well. I think he'd be very good candidate. But um I think Ally just had a little bit stronger of the the personality and the
interview skills. Um and the people management portion, you know, you know, that's something I think it was her that me mentioned it. You can't teach that. You can teach somebody capital improvement plans, but personality and how to interact with others, that is something
that's that's a talent um that you just have or not. It's innate. You either have it or you don't. There's no in between. You're not going to learn that out of a book or a class. Correct. No matter how long you try. Well, and I also like Deliy's approach of you have a
question, go talk to public works, go talk to, you know, admin. you know where previously the communication was controlled and the preferred preferred method was everything went through the
administrator and I don't agree with that if I have a question I'm going to go to Joe I'll go to Jory you know whomever can provide the answer because at the end of the day as council members we don't do staff's job right and who
better to answer the questions what is is that you need like when we hit when we, you know, address staffing, you know, our staff has to, you know, have big input into that. What is it that they need? You know, we can have our own
ideas of what we feel might be needed, but again, they do the jobs. Yeah. I I I would say the only thing that I would say to that and and I agree, it shouldn't go through the administrator. My big thing is always to make sure the administrator is informed.
Absolutely. Yes. So if if if if a council member is going to one of our department heads and talking to them, the administrator needs to be pulled into the loop so they know what's going on because if you don't do that, then you alienate your administrator. Correct. So it can go the reverse then.
And so that's my concern would be is to make sure that the administrator is always informed. It's kind of like and I'll be honest, it's why when I have people approach me about things, I say, "Let's get this process started through the administrator. Would you please contact our city administrator and work it that way?" whether it's the public or
whatever because I want them involved in the chain in the loop because they they at the end of the day are going to be the ones that are going to answer it for to us. So that's that's my only thing about that agree. But I like the idea of the you being able to go to a director
and talk to them and and you know be able to say hey you know this is a question I have. I just think it's important that the administrator be aware and a lot of it is being leas on say the streets committee. Obviously, we're not experts on streets questions like that that are directed based upon
but absolutely the administrator needs to be a little that would be my only clarification. But no, I I mean I I agree. I I think Ally she has she resonated and she knew her stuff and
I I I mean I'm either one of them I think would do well, but I do think that Alli's got a little more of that. I guess I like the fact that she took time to tell us that she wants to be here and she wants to be in the community and she wants to be here for long term and this isn't a stepping stone and they want to
be here and I mean you talked about consistency. We need that. Yes. Yes, we do. We've had too much of this too much. You're here two here. Now we got another one and and that's hard on your staff. That's hard on the council. That's hard on the constituents to be able to get
any continuity going. So, well, and we've asked a lot of staff. I mean, there's we have um and thankfully they haven't all run away on us available to help us navigate. I thought you were talking about me
about not involving people. No, no, we are very very lucky to have you, Jerry. H So, okay. Well, I'm I'm hearing a a consensus among the among the
council that Ally is probably our our pick. Um, do we need to have an actual motion on that? It probably should. Yes, I would suggest choose number one that you have a number
backup you can fall back on. I agree. number one falls through. Yep. I agree. I agree. Rather than having to go through another meeting. Well, I think I think our number two sounds like Josh. Correct. Hearing. Am I correct on that? So, our our number one candidate would
be Ally. Our number two would be Josh. So, we probably need a motion uh to some effect that states that and that then we would agree to enter into that negotiations in executive session.
So, do I have a motion? Okay. So, I have a motion from council member Moroni to uh our first uh choice selection is Alli um Plasfus with
our second being Josh Wilson. um and to um pending uh one of them uh stating that they they would be willing to um come into uh the position that we'd enter into
negotiations within executive session. Do I have a second on that? I'll second. Okay. So, I have a second on the motion. Do I have any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I I opposed
abstensions. The motion carries. All right. So, I am now going to call this uh regular meeting into recess at uh 3:43 and we will now enter into a close
session to discuss negotiation strategy. Thank you.