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Part 1 (Video ID: Bk7APF8-_ZI):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Start, Pledge of Allegiance, Roll Call, Open Forum
- 00:01:25: Public Hearing: Mini Storage Conditional Use Application
- 00:02:14: Applicant Presentation: Chris Cullen Mini Storage Project
- 00:04:39: Applicant Q&A: Signage, Lighting, Access, Build Phases
- 00:06:16: Applicant Q&A: Fencing, Doors, Water Drainage, Trees
- 00:11:48: Staff Review: Conditional Use Application Requirements
- 00:15:24: Staff Review Q&A: Water Treatment Plan and Door Colors
- 00:16:43: Staff Review Q&A: Door Color, Quality, Vandalism Concerns
- 00:18:25: Public Input Closed, Staff Discussion on Conditions
- 00:20:08: Staff Discussion: Tree Selection, Maintenance Concerns
- 00:23:05: Motion to Approve the Conditional Use Permit
- 00:24:20: Staff Reports: Home Business Issue and Job Update


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the planning commission board adjustment meeting Tuesday, May 12th at 6:30 p.m. And we will start with the pledge of allegiance. So all rise. >> I pledge the allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

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>> and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. And we will start with a roll call. >> S here. Brisbane >> here. >> Weaver

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>> here. >> Ty >> here. Zen >> here. >> All right. And then we'll move on to the open forum. If anyone in the audience has a topic of conversation that's not currently on the meeting agenda, please approach the podium, state your name and

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address and share with us, please. Not with not witnessing anyone running to the microphone. We will go ahead and close the open forum and we'll move on to approve the minutes from the April 14th, 2026 planning commission meeting. Does anyone have a motion to approve the minutes or is there any adjustments that

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are seen? >> Make a motion to approve. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion passed. And then we'll move on to public hearing conditional use application C260004.

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Christopher Colin of 8156 County Road 11 Breezy Point, Minnesota. It's parcel 10161853 west 1/2 lot of 97 part of lot 97 southwest corner of lot 97 and then and

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I'm not sure what that's abbreviation for. >> Thank you. distribution distance of 200 feet along um of SD lot 97 to NW

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corner 8th addition to Breezy Point Estates and it's to construct 200 ft by 10 ft mini storage units. It is a zone C which is commercial. So we're opening the public hearing and we'll start with the applicant presentation.

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So, if you'd please approach the podium, state your name and address. >> Uh, Chris Cullen, address 31310 Summer Drive, Breezy Point. So, um, yeah. And so, basically, um, I am looking to build

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two uh, mini storage units. They'll be 10T by 100 foot. Um, we've got a substantial amount um, of parking and turnaround area. There should be enough area within the parking spot and the or within where where just where it sits with the impervious space. There should

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be more than enough parking for people to actually literally could park there. There's enough parking there. I think I've got about 40 foot between the two units. So, um which nobody will there won't ever be, you know, 20 vehicles there at one time, but there would be

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plenty of room. So, it should not impact the neighborhood at all. it fits in with everything else within the area. Um the whole airport, you know, all the hangers, those are a majority of those or a good portion of them are just used for storage alone. Um not even holding

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airports. So it conforms with everything else in the neighborhood. And um it's zoned commercial, so it doesn't impact any of the neighbors, even the neighboring businesses will not impact them at all. Um, in fact there some of the other businesses might choose to

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rent some of the units uh to kind of you know I guess but um yeah should be very clean and straightforward. The construction will follow all Minnesota building standards uh the Minnesota standards. Um we're going to do

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thickened edge slabs and uh 2x4 framing uh with a uh single slope and so it'll match my office. Now, the colors will match my office and it'll fit in very well. Um, whatever's not uh done, you

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probably have seen I I will extend out my sprinkler system so that it'll look really good. I plan to fence it in, probably plant some maple trees and make it look really nice. Um, and uh so it'll be good thing for the community. Um, and it should conform with every pretty much

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every aspect of of what that uh location is intended for. So, Um, and then I know one of the other big things was, like I say, not to, you know, get in the way of any of the neighboring businesses or any of the other neighbors. Um, like I say, definitely will not get in the way of

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any of the other neighbors. So, >> can you describe the lighting and signage? >> Uh, yeah. So, for the signage, um, you know, I'll be complying with the the whatever we have in the ordinances on it. Whether I put some signage in or

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not, I would plan to do whatever is there. It is one commercial building right now, one commercial property. So, the signage, if I do decide to put sign signage back in, will be more focused on the real estate business. So, I really don't feel like I would necessarily

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need, you know, there might be like maybe a small sign with, you know, a phone number or a website. Probably more of a website where people can go on or a QR code, something like that. Um, but I really don't feel the need or, you know, if I'm going to if I'm going to use my

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sign um, allowance for my property, it'll be for the real estate, not for the mini storage. Um, as for lighting, um, there will be some outdoor lighting and security cameras there. So, we'll be able to monitor kind of

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who's coming and going. And, uh, so there will be lighting there. As far as the buildings themselves go, they will not be wired for electron electricity. So, it'll be, you know, kind of a dust toad dawn type of a a situation. >> Is there controlled access?

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>> Uh, you mean like >> area? >> Um, that would be the ultimate plan to do that. Um, you know, kind of I would be doing it in phases. So, I'd probably start out with phase one, probably put one building in, see how it goes. Um, and then the plan would be probably my

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goal would be to get one of them in this year, maybe two, and then get the second one done next year and then put in the fencing and kind of just kind of pick away at it. Um, I know I've got two years on my conditional use permit. So, I probably would use the two years and then plan to fence it in and and um, you

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know, depending on what I have for, you know, clientele and what everybody's looking for. Um, yeah, I could see doing like a gated entry type situation. So, um, yeah, I gota I have to plan out. I know like some of the neighboring

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businesses actually plow onto my into some of that area. So, I you know, if I put a fence up right away, I don't want to impact them either. So would start out with good lighting, security cameras, and then see how it see how it works because even with the snow and

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moisture and stuff, I want to make sure that I don't like impact anybody else. So and um we are pretty secure area. So, >> are the number of is it going to get built according to the plan with like five doors or

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>> you know I've got you know I I'm my plan right now is to do uh 10 all 10 by 10 units. I might do a 10 by 20 um >> so actually it' be 10 doors instead of >> Yeah. Yeah. There's and I wasn't sure what exactly how many doors my you know

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how many doors I want to put in and but right now the way that the plan is is yeah it just for whatever reason um it didn't put all the doors in when I but the layout is pretty much the same but yeah it it'll be 10 doors at this right now is what I'm planning.

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>> Will they be white like the picture? >> Um yeah I mean I guess that's I I probably would do white or gray. >> Okay. Not orange like some of the units I see. No, no, no. I I've spent a lot of time and energy to make my office look good. So, I'm definitely not going to be

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aside from the deer eating my flowers, I'm not going to be okay. >> Um putting in any orange doors or anything like that. >> You have quite a bit of hard surface. Is there kind of a something to do with the drainage? I mean, I know Jerry's got it in as

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um on the condition to surface water to be collected and treated on site. >> Mhm. Yeah. So, really on the I guess it' be the north and the east side, you know, and again, that's kind of where coming back to the fencing kind of on that east side between myself and like

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where Ace is. I've been kind of allowing them to, you know, we've kind of been I'd say maybe sharing the line a little bit with plowing and stuff. So, kind of what my plan is right now is I'm going to dig that out, probably down, you know, a couple feet, put some rocks in there, and I'm actually going to run it

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all the way down the property line between where my concrete is, where I've got rocks right now, and then I'm going to I'm going to dig it out and kind of put in a um like a French drain type of thing, just to control my office runoff, even though I don't know that I have any issues. Um I'm probably going to do

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that. And then over on the west side, I'm going to have to do something because I'm getting I'm actually getting the neighboring now that they redid the road, it comes down and I'm getting puddles. But um so I'll probably do some kind of a French drain on each side of the east and the west side of my

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property just to contain it. >> Um which would be overkill. That's pretty much all sand back there anyway, >> right? But they still have a lot of hard surface. >> Yeah. Yeah, you had mentioned trees which would be really nice if you had a nice screen

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and that's we've requested that on >> some of the stuff in the past. I don't know if that's a thought or you know towards airport road >> because you're basically the office towards 11 but airport road.

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>> Yeah. kind of my thought is is um you know running west to east and putting in like maples in there. So when you come down the hill or or maybe doing like a mix of like maybe some apple trees or some maples primarily maples cuz I think it would just be really pretty, you

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know, in fall coming down the hill and seeing green grass and all the colors and stuff. So that's kind of my my thought on it right now. And I like maple trees. So but but I could do pines. I'd rather not do pines because they're messy and I think that they just

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kind of get they get messy after a while where the maples are just really add a lot to the to that whole you know I know the building down the road we requested to put trees in and the trees I drove by

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there just now and >> they're not much and that how many years ago five at least >> at least So >> yeah, I mean, like I say, it's kind of already in my my vision of kind of

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having it, you know, it is going to be I do want to have, you know, I'm not, you know, honestly not trying to be the cheapest place to rent in town. That's not really where I'm at. I'm I want to have a very nice building and I want to have um you know, I want to have it to

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be a nice place where people are are proud to bring their stuff. So that's kind of my my vision. So, >> questions. >> Thank you. >> Yep. You bet. >> All right. Moving on to staff review.

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>> Uh, excuse me. Conditional use application 260004. Uh, applicant is Christopher Cullen. Property address is 8156 County Road 11.

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Property ID number is 10161853. Uh legal descriptions elongated and I won't repeat that. I think the chairman did a pretty decent job at that to begin with. Uh applicable city code is 153.040

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153.044 153.045 045. And again, the conditional use request is to construct two 100x one by 10 foot mini storage units for rental. Applicant has submitted an application

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for a cup to construct storage units for rent. The property is zoned commercial. Uh applicable code there is 153040. The parcel currently hosts a real estate office with an improved parking and

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green area. The current impervious coverage is 22.9%. The proposed imperous coverage is 45.9%. Upon review of the conditional use application, the commission needs to consider the findings as required in

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section 15311 19E. In review, the commission should state whether or not the finding is acceptable towards granting the COP if applicable. The following findings must be met. The use or the development is an appropriate conditional use in the land use zoned.

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The property is zoned commercial and the request is appropriate under section 153.040. The use or the development with condition conforms to the comprehensive land use plan. The use with conditions is compatible with the existing

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neighborhood and the use with the conditions would not be injurous to the public health, safety, welfare, decency, order, comfort, convenience, appearance or prosperity of the city. There are some other uh findings that you should

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be considering but I will not go through those. Applicant has filed the appropriate application for the cup. He has paid the appropriate fee for the application. Public notice of conditional use hearing was published in the legal news

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newspaper and all property owners within 350 ft were given mailed notice of set hearing. Public hearing was being held as we speak. U staff has reviewed the site plan the cup application.

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Uh 15 again 153.040 040 C24 storage units for rental or sale. Storage units for rental is an appropriate conditional use in a commercial zone. The following may be appropriate conditions for the approval of a CUP.

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Applicant shall obtain a building permit for storage structures. Applicant shall comply with all setback requirements. Siding and roofing of rental structure shall match the real estate office. Structure shall comply with the state

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building code. Surface water to be collected and treated on site and any other conditions that the commission would so choose to attach the treating. Can I ask a question?

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>> The treating of the water. Do we do we need a plan on that or >> Well, he's we'd asked for a for a plan, per se. Um I think he's stated in his presentation that he was had some

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things in mind. We we'd like to, you know, if we're going to this is going to be a condition, we'd ask him to provide us with some plans as far as what's going to be done so that we can follow through. Um, we'd also probably take those plans and run it past the city engineer to

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make sure that everything is oil. I would like to add the overhead doors to be either white or gray. I just I've seen so many of these orange ones that look like heck. And if that's if that

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would be a condition that would work >> okay >> work. >> Terry, if we add to have a um water collection plan reviewed, does that need to come back here or is that something we could say can be reviewed by staff? And >> construction plans are reviewed when we

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get the building permit application. You're right now you're talking about a land use specifically. U but >> so technically we can't say you got to have a white or gray door. So >> you you certainly can do that. That's

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aesthetic >> or black even. >> Yeah. >> Or earth tone, I guess, or >> natural tones. >> There you go. >> I Yeah, I definitely won't be doing anything orange. So >> I'm writing that down. Yeah, you can

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>> colors. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It'll it'll it'll match and look good. So, it's a reflection of my of my business as well. So, I'm not going to be going on uh market space and finding the cheapest doors in in Cumberland,

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Wisconsin or something like that, you know. So, >> but we've heard similar stories in the past and >> we can we can always add it in there. I'd be very comfortable with that. So, >> the Wayne's coating on the steel is

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>> nice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it looks good. And then and then the idea behind that too is when somebody bangs into it, I only have a three-foot piece to replace a 3x3 piece >> versus having to take off the whole thing because people are going to run

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into it. >> And then I can keep it nice without having to >> It's normally the snowplow guys that do that. Any more questions before we move on? All right, then we will move on to public input. So, if anyone in the

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audience would like to approach the podium, state your name and address and share with us your thoughts. All right, not seeing anybody rushing to the podium. We'll close public input. We will then also um move on to staff discussion. So, I think we have one item that we

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want to at least add, which would be the overhead doors to be of a natural tone color. Um, adding a little bit onto the number five surface water shall be collected and treated and just maybe state on there to provide the plan to be reviewed along with the building permit

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application just for clarity. And then do we want to um add a condition about a tree line to keep some of the Northwood's character along that? >> Any other conditions that I missed?

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>> I mean trees for screening. >> Would that be part of Do you want to spec Do we want to specify that for the tree line to say that it's for screening? >> Can we do that? >> I I I think you can. you you have the

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ability to say you want screening or or whatever, but I think you have to be very very specific as far as what you're asking for. >> And you know, I think previously we've we've done some some of those type of

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things. We asked for 20inch trees and and we got 14inch trees and then we get back and forth. There's also when you talk about trees, there's also a sometimes there's there's a life

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expectancy that that isn't always held. And how do you enforce that in the past unless you have a a real vision of what you want? It's pretty hard to dictate that, >> right?

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>> Um my concern that So, if you're thinking of putting a fence up, would you have room for the tree. I mean, the you know what I mean? If you're going to be the curbs here and the fence is realistically, could you plant a tree in 30 years? Is it going to, you know,

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>> grow into the fence, you know? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. And so, right now, I own the whole property. So, it's not >> Come up. Sorry. >> Um, yeah. So, right now the property is one. I do have everything laid out so and and even in the impervious so that I

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could divide that out. Um but uh yeah, I mean where where I would put them is I'd probably end up putting them on like I guess it would be the real estate side that would screen it. The one thing too I would say is like even on the screening is that you know like I guess like Jerry says defining what the

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screening is >> could probably lead more into like a pine tree or some kind of a bush or a hedge. And I think from a cosmetic perspective, I would probably be more inclined to do something like a like a like a maple tree that's going to look a little bit cleaner and offer more of a,

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you know, kind of a lot nicer look, I think, you know. So, um, but yeah, my my plan would be to put some in there, but the buildings are going to look nice. So, I I wouldn't want to put, you know, I wouldn't want to put something in that's going to take away from, you know, the way that it looks. And, you

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know, right now I've got sprinkler systems in. And so, you know, my my goal is to, you know, I'm going to put another zone in so I can keep it all watered, put nice grass in and make it look really nice. Um, so yeah, I my plan is to put maple trees in. That's kind of

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what I, you know, just cuz I think they look good. Or like an apple tree, maybe, but those are messy, too. But so I'd probably be more into an a or more into like a maple. >> Does that row I don't know if I can ask this. >> Row trees to the north towards the

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hanger. Does that stay? >> Um, yeah. I mean, a lot of those are I mean those some of them I was looking at some of them are like they're old. Most of those are like a lot of them are jack pine. Okay. >> Some squirly looking oaks. Like everything in there is >> pretty tough. So, um I'm going to have

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to talk, you know, even get a hold of the neighbor guy and say, "Hey, let I'll take them down." Because they're going to fall either on the power line or my building or your building. So, they're all kind of scraggly jack pines in there now for the most part. >> Okay. So, >> I just seen trees and I went, "Oh,

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>> I think the, you know, I think the airport would like to have them come down because they block the when people come in, but or I think it I don't know anything about flying, but I think it affects them a little bit, but >> so >> interesting.

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>> Any other questions? Thank you again." >> Yep. You bet. >> Do we have more discussion or are we prepared to make a motion? Well, I will start. I'll make a motion to approve the conditional use permit with the conditions laid out um 1

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through five. Also, taking item number five and modifying that to say surface water shall be collected and treating treated on site. A plan will be provided and reviewed along with the world building permit app. And then adding

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number six, which would be adding overhead doors to be of a natural tone color. And item number eight to create a tree line um to maintain some of the northwood character character um ideally

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maple trees. >> Second. >> All right, we have a second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion passed. Thank you guys. >> All right, moving on to staff reports.

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Do we have any updates on what we talked about last week with the home business >> to put it bluntly? That's been a um something that's been going

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back and forth and uh the attorneys involved. Uh we are meeting with those folks next Monday with the attorney. Um hoping to get it resolved, but that's

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all I can tell you at this time. We've we've had numerous conversations and it's gone back and forth for quite a while. >> Okay. >> Any other report or >> I was just going to say it's kind of a dangerous little area there with the

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school. >> Yeah. >> I mean, but that's my opinion. >> Hence who you talk to. >> You want to update on the job? >> Yeah. >> Or do you want me to? That's that's coming Jun July. Ally said probably June

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or July about the rate for the commission council. >> They they have posted uh this job. Um they they interviewed they have decided to go back and repost

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it. So it's that's the status of it today. Are there certain criteria that we're looking for in particular or >> um I don't know that I can answer that question quite frankly that's uh what

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administration is looking for and and uh I I think uh that's appropriate because that has to be part of their team. >> Okay. Any other reports questions?

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All right then. Meeting is adjourned. >> Oh.

