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Okay. Um, I'd like to ask everyone to stand for the pledge of allegiance. I >> I'll do it. >> Okay. >> Okay. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat] >> Okay. Our first item on the agenda is >> invocation. >> Yeah. I don't see >> it was >> I don't see Do we have a Do we have a pastor here for invocation? Yes. Good. Okay. All it was a separate piece of
paper. All right. This is Pastor Tim Franklin uh from Freedom Christian Center is going to lead us in the invocation today. >> Thank you. >> Father, we thank you for your presence here and we know that you also rule in the affairs of men. And as you have declared in your word, the house is
built by wisdom and by understanding it's established. And so we just say come by the power of your spirit. Fill this place with your wisdom. Let there be understanding. Lord, at the end of the day, let there be peace on each one's heart. We ask all this in your precious son's name. Amen.
>> Amen. >> Amen. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Tim. >> Thank you for Commissioner Atinson for bringing that to my attention. Okay, our first item is D1 minutes for approval November 18th, 2025. >> I'll make a motion to approve.
>> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Motion carries. >> Oh, by the way, we have Commissioner Goodson with us on the phone. And we just heard him chime in. >> We need a motion. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> I'll make a second.
>> I'll make the motion for Commissioner Goodson to participate by phone. >> There's a motion and a second to authorize Commissioner Goodson to participate by phone. All in favor say I. I. Opposed >> carries. >> I Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Appreciate you joining us. Okay. Now, um item E, resolutions, awards, and presentation. We have none. Um F, consent agenda. We do have one card from a member of the public that wants to be
heard on the consent agenda F4. So, we'll pull that one off. Is there any other items on the consent that the board wishes to remove? Seeing none, a motion on the consent would be in order. There's a motion.
>> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Motion. >> Motion carries. Okay, we will revert back to the one item that we have a card on. And that's item >> question. >> Oh, that's questions only.
>> Questions only. Okay, that's what it says. Questions only. Okay. Does anyone have any questions on F4? I'd like to make a motion to approve. >> Okay, there's a motion. I'll second to approve. All in favor say I. I.
>> Motion >> I. >> Motion carries. Okay. Okay. We are now on item G, which is a public comment portion of our the first public comment portion on our agenda. Do we
have any public comment cards? >> G. >> We have no public comment cards on item G. H1 with public hearing. None. I. Unfinished business. Approval for transfer of parcels. Um
like to let staff introduce the item. >> Good morning, commissioners. Back in December, the board voted and directed the EELS program to look at the transfer of these parcels to their management. They subsequently did and the selection and management committee also reviewed
it. Made a unanimous motion to uh recommend the transfer. Uh before you have an agenda item that would approve the transfer as part of the SMC's approval, they did a request to wave
transfer fees. So to honor that request, you have an option of either tr uh waving those fees or moving forward with just transfer fees of about $57,270 to pay the general fund back what was paid to utilities back in 2014.
Third item is to authorize EEL's program to enter into a friends of agreement with the not forprofit. Fourth is to authorize the parks and rec director to sign set agreement renewals modifications. And fifth is to authorize the county manager to execute all necessary actions to complete the
transfer. >> Okay. Do we have any questions? >> No. I'll just say uh you that's what I wanted to do. I was going to say this is my item, so I'll close on it um after the cards. Okay, sir. >> All right. Good. We have Anita and Tom Unrath.
>> Might as well call you together. Y'all can come on up. Thank you very much for considering this. Um start off with a couple of things. One, I'm a pastor and uh as I mentioned at the very beginning of this
whole thing uh nine years ago, um God created the world, I believe, and said, "Take care of it." And so, thank you for the opportunity that you have given us. and especially the previous members of the bar, Kurt Smith uh especially and uh
back at at that time there was uh that Margaret meat anthropologist said never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world indeed it is the only thing that ever has hope that we've been able to be part
of that tradition but uh we could not have done it at all without help of a lot of people, especially um Virginia Barker. We really thank she was assigned as our point of contact with the county and she has done an
absolutely phenomenal job. We want to thank her and her staff most especially as well as Mike Knight and his staff, the uh selection and management committee that came out, looked at the property and then made the
recommendation that uh we move forward to transfer uh the property to the EEL. Um and there's a guy who's not here uh will not be here physically at all. His name
is George Rosenfield. He died at a hundred years plus, but he was here speaking 10 years ago saying that he thought that this property should be set aside for uh this kind of purpose that
EEL is is doing. He said his his phrase in that was in perpetuity. Uh so thank you for allowing him to see from wherever he is that this is is going
forward and we appreciate all that you have and and will be in a moment doing >> I get my three minutes >> Anita Enrath. Um I would like to thank our board members past and present. We
have had 20 people in the past help us. They've moved to places like North Carolina, Alaska, gone in the Coast Guard, and one is an Army veterinarian now. Um she was on our board when she was a student at Eastern Florida um college here for two years. Another is
in going into environmental engineering. Um I encourage you also to please vote in favor of this agenda item. As Tom said, it takes a village and we do have this wonderful team. We've also had some wonderful contractors that I would like to tell you about because they did some
awesome work. One is Roberto Belotti of Sunree Landscaping. He mowed the trails for us these past nine years. Um, another is Rick Cochril of Superior Aquatics. He has sprayed the category one invasive um, Kogan grass. We didn't know anything
about Kogan grass. We knew about Brazilian pepper trees, but Kogan grass could have taken over all of 100 acre hollows and he's been out there at least twice a year. You have to spray it twice a year to make sure it goes away. It unfortunately it grows by underground ryomes and so um it may come back in
other areas, but we've tried what we to do what we could to cut back the Kogan grass. Um the gopher tortoises need their grass and Kogan grass would totally take over. We want to thank LEW Construction for cutting back and pulling out invasive Brazilian pepper trees three years ago and they all gave
us a good nonprofit price. So, thank you very much to all of them. We want to thank other people have helped us. Leysian and Yulang Wong. Um, Yulang was a young man who did our app to geollocate the gopher tortoise burrows that we've used over the years. And there have been many people who have
volunteered to cut down Brazilian pepper trees and vines. Um, there have been numerous people who have supported us financially. We've been supported by individuals and some grants. The organizations that have supported us are the California Turtle and Tortoise Club. In our first year, they saw us online
and sent us $250, which was such a gift at that point when we had like no money. And we've also had help from the Space Coast Ottoon Society planting a garden in the south. The cape keep breard beautiful grant we did another garden
and a rain pavilion with rain barrels. The Ganette Foundation gave us money a grant one year we got recycled pla plastic picnic tables and benches and recently the community foundation for Bvard for the Moby mats that we just installed and the gopher tortoise
council for an educational grant that we received. We've had five Eagle Scout projects and three Girl Scout projects out there. They made kiosk benches, educational signs, and batous. And I also want to thank the Bvard Zoo, which has been an amazing partner. They bring
out homeschool groups every year. And they also cut Brazilian pepper trees for the giraffes and the goats. So, thank you so much to all of those people who helped us. And we hope that you will vote in favor of this. And we hope that you've made us that we've made you proud that a small group of people could do
such a thing to help our county. Thank you very much. Thank you for all your good work. Uh, Commissioner Felner. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, commissioners, this has been a long time in the in the making. Um, I've I've certainly
accelerated it since since I've been here. Um, and since we have the EELS program, uh, I think the the season was right to do this. So, I appreciate your support today. I'm going to go ahead and make a motion if there isn't other discussion. Um so first to approve the
transfer of the identified parcels. Um part of my [clears throat] motion will be to pay the $57,270 uh to general fund. And I think that's the probably the best land deal uh in this century uh that we're going to
we're going to have for uh for um 114 acres. Authorize EELS to enter into agreement with the Friends of 100 Acre Hollows and then authorize parks and recreation department director to endorse um the agreement and um any
amendments that need to be made and then finally authorize county manager to execute all uh necessary budget amendments. That's >> second that. >> Okay, motion and two seconds. Um so uh any discussion, any questions? All in
favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Motion carries unanimously. >> I got commission. That's good. Thank you. >> All right. >> Okay. Our next item is uh >> J1. Good morning, uh, commissioners. Uh J1's
a resolution authorizing the county manager to execute all necessary documents uh to request a release of entry uh for exploration of phosphate, minerals, metals, and petroleum uh reservation and rights from the board of
trustees of the international improvement fund of the state of Florida. Uh back in July, uh the board approved the Perken with the county attorney's office because the uh minimal risk, but uh looking for uh your permission to uh request this release at
this time. >> Okay. All right. Um any questions, any discussion? Motion would be >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Motion. Second. All in favor say I. I. >> Pard me.
No comment. >> Oh, okay. Okay, good. All those in favor say I. >> I. Motion carries. >> I >> Okay. Uh, next item J2. Like staff to present this uh item. >> All right. This is an item that has
evolved a little bit since it was added to the agenda. Um, it involves the St. John's Heritage Parkway and um a potential a support of Palm Bay and the acquisition of a segment of the future parkway extension that ultimately will
connect it from its terminus out west on Malibar Road. Now um down south to Babcock um somewhere north of where Miko is. Um, City of Palm Bay took this up at their meeting Thursday night and they
unanimously proceeded with a resolution proposed by the applicant on it. Um, as you all know, the St. John's Heritage Parkway is a regionally significant transportation corridor intended to improve east west mobility, enhance emergency evacuation
capacity, and reduce congestion on parallel arterial roadways including Babcock Street. There is an ACE study, alternative corridor evaluation study, evaluating potential parkway alignments between Babcock Street to Malibar Road. Um the proposal before you would involve
the most the westernmost segment of that alignment um just west, I'm sorry, the eastern most segment of that alignment just west of Babcock Street. It's within the jurisdiction of the city of Palm Bay. Now the original proposal before
you was a joint resolution that that purports to be an agreement where the county and city agree to certain terms and it states that resolution if adopted by the county and city would become an agreement between them and between a private party who's going to fund any
potential imminent domain action that might need to be taken to acquire that property. Just last night, I received an email from Scott Knox, who represents the private party Rolling Meadows Ranch that's proposing to uh provide the
financial backing for this acquisition. and he stated and I I would agree that because the subject property lies within the city of Palm Bay, the county's approval of this resolution is not necessary for the city to proceed and
exercise its condemning authority. Um Palm Bay has the absolute authority to condemn the property in the event statutory offer negotiation process called for in the resolution does not result in a negotiated purchase of the property without the county. what they're really asking for is a show of
solidarity and support from the county. So my recommendation if the county commission is interested in proceeding and thinks this is a a good thing to do and uh secure that segment of the future alignment of the parkway would be to consider directing me to prepare a
resolution um similar to the joint resolution put forth in your agreement but modifying it to show that it's not intended to be an agreement of the county as far as a contractual agreement but rather a show of support for Palm Bay's ultimate acquisition of the
parkway segment. Um, I'm happy to answer any questions you might have about this item and if the board approved that, uh, you know, approve and authorize the chair to to execute the appropriate resolution. >> Okay. Um, I think it would be
appropriate that we show solidarity with the city. It is a regionally significant roadway and this is good news that we're working together with the city to make it happen. also has a significant impact on a potential future school site which is a public benefit as well. So this
would encourage uh them to proceed. So I think a motion would be in order. >> A card I think >> we do have one card. Yes, >> we have one card if you wanted to say a few words. Tuck. I'm here for the friends of the parkway.
and our group started working on this actually in 1982. We worked hard to run the parkway from the airport to Malibar Road and we'd like to see it continue because it's going to be needed as a transportation
connector and corridor. It's a critical thing and we almost didn't build Wickham Road. When it was first built, it was called the road to nowhere. Really, people laughed about it. You need transportation
and people in the Seth county need to get to I95. This is a critical plan and the interchange is there. This will connect to the interchange because goes right across Babcock Street. It's a critical thing to happen
and uh we support it and Mr. Mashadi got caught in traffic. Um John Stori is here. We have a lot of support for this and a lot of support in the in the South County area. So, I'd really appreciate
uh your support on this because Palm Bay has agreed 50 to support the thing because it's really needed. Thank you. And I appreciate your time. Thank you. >> Kind of ironic, isn't it? He couldn't
make the meeting for a Pal Bay Parkway project because he got stuck in traffic in South Boulevard. [laughter] So appropriate makes his real statement. Okay. Commissioner Felner, I think I saw you. Did you have a >> No, sir. I I uh I I had said earlier to
Tuck, it's been been a long time since we've seen each other, but uh when I worked for the legislature um and you were there, too. I think nine nine or 10 session um the legislature appropriated money for the St. John's Heritage Parkway. So it's it's been many many
years in in the making. >> Commissioner, >> so um this is down my way and I've had an opportunity to talk to um a lot of people that I know down there about it and one of the things that kept coming up was an evacuation route. everybody thinks that it's going to be a real
positive thing for for lots of reasons, but that in particular. So, um I would like to make a motion to approve. And >> just for some clarification, I would recommend that the motion uh be that the
the county commission adopt a resolution showing support of the city of Palm Bay's action to move forward with acquisition of that property in partnership with the private party Rolling Meadows Ranch and direct me to prepare a resolution to that effect and authorize the chair to sign.
>> Thank you. So moved. >> There's a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. seconded by Commissioner Felner. Um, yes, this it's been a long time coming. Gracious, I can remember way back when Charlie Chris was governor, he approved, I don't know, 10
15 million. Thank you, Charlie, for that. It's been a team effort with a lot of different organizations and um this is a big step forward for it. So, okay. Uh, any other discussion? >> All those in favor signify by saying I.
I. Motion carries. Fine. >> Thank you, Commissioner. >> Thank you, Tuck. And uh next item on the agenda will be J3 >> opponent of a member of the Tisville
Coco Airport Authority. >> We have one card uh John Hopping Garden and another card just for questions from Tai Moore. Yeah, let's have staff give a presentation before you get started to
frame the uh >> Go right ahead. >> I have a bad habit of just jumping in, you know. >> Good morning, Mr. Chair and commissioners. This item is to appoint a member to the Titusville Cocoa Airport Authority who is appointed jointly by county commissioners District 1, 2, and
four. >> And if I may, uh Mr. Chair, I had an opportunity late yesterday to do a little research and it looks like in 1995, then Commissioner Truman Scarboro actually asked for an attorney general opinion construing the language in the special act jointly appoint or or that
they be appointed jointly by those commissioners. Uh there's certainly a reading of that that would require a consensus or no descent or unanimous approval. But uh attorney general at the time, Bob Butterworth, issued an opinion in response to Commissioner Scarboro's
inquiry and appedin that the atlarge member of the Titusville Coco Airport District who is to be appointed jointly by the county commissioners for districts 1, 2, and four should be chosen by a process in which all three commissioners participate, but the
member need not be selected unanimously. So, uh, you know, whatever is the board's pleasure when it comes time, uh, it's just those three members that would be involved in this selection. Uh, it could be either by consensus if they're all in agreement or it could be by a vote. It doesn't need to be unanimous to
appoint a member to that at large seat. >> I have a question. >> Yes. Go ahead, commissioner. >> So, does that mean only three of us are voting? >> Yes. Only only one, two, and four. >> Thank you. Okay, go ahead, John. You have the floor.
>> Okay, John Hopping. You all know me from my wonderful uh political career and also from my being on the planning and zoning board, but I'm here today about the appointment for the Titusville Cocoa Airport. A lot of you don't know that I
spent many years in aviation as a project manager for numerous airport projects. I um I started when I was in the Air Force and where I'm a decorated combat veteran and I'm a graduate
architect and I was the construction manager and designer for numerous airport projects nationally and internationally. I'll give you some examples. Hobby Airport in Houston, Bush Intercontinental in
Houston, El Paso in Texas, Logan Airport in Boston, Cleveland airport in Ohio, Santa Barbara Airport, California, Bengurian Airport in Israel, and Stay Dove airport in Israel. Um, the projects ranged from million
dollars to $650 million. I worked on the design for hangers, terminals, passenger gates, hard stands, aprons, maintenance facilities, baggage handling, runway extensions, concession
areas, storm drainage, fire protection and detection, docking systems for visual gates, apron lighting, cathodeic protection for fuel systems, earthworks, loading bridges. I could go on and on and on. I've done it all.
um under the um the Y accords in in the Middle East, I was um assigned to do two training facilities for the Israeli Air Force for F-15s and the Blackhawk
helicopter systems with um um with uh simulators, flight simulators. We were putting those in. Also, I also did a training school for Scandinavian Airlines for all their MA management personnel.
Besides all that, I've done warehouses, I've done office buildings, industrial parks, uh, parking garages, and hotels, all Air Force related. Um, administratively I was country
manager for uh Parsons Brinkerhoff, a large engineering firm back in the day, 12,000 engineers. And I was also the uh procurement agent for getting two airports in Cyprus
uh under a bott part partnership. Uh, let's see. Designed a computer s. Uh, oh boy, I'm running out of time. [snorts] Um, I'm a licensed real estate broker, commercial, and I'm out of time. But I just wanted to say if I can take
two seconds that I made a lot of money doing all this kind of work. I'm offering it to you for all this knowledge that I have for free. So, please consider me for this position. Thanks for your vote.
Thank you so much. Okay. Um I think that there's we have a one card for questions only uh with time more. So >> I'd like to make a motion if there's no discussion. >> I'd like
>> Yeah. Commissioner Goodson. >> Yes. I'd like to make a motion, sir. >> Okay. I'd like to nominate Tai Moore who runs a business out of Merit Island. He is a young gentleman and that's what
we need to promote since all of us are getting older. >> Point of order. >> Okay, >> Commissioner. I was just wondering since I was I I mentioned I wanted to make a motion
first if that what the order of that would be. >> Go ahead. >> Um well, since the commissioner was on the phone, I wanted him to give an opportunity to make a comment when he mentioned it. Um so we have two commissioners wanting to
make a motion. Why don't uh >> I think you go to her I think you go to her motion first >> parliamentary procedure the person who mentions it first. So [clears throat] um >> I would take up her motion and see if there's a second. >> Okay. >> But only among the three who vote on the
side. >> Right. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve John Hoen to this seat. >> Okay. There's a motion. Is there a second? And remind it would be the only three commissioners from North Boulevard.
Okay. Motion dies for like a second. Commissioner Goodson, you have a motion. >> Yes. I'd like to nominate Ty Moore. >> Motion for Ty Moore. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> There's a motion. Second. >> I'd like to have discussion. >> Discussion.
Um, I I have a lot of concern about this because I didn't really see a whole lot of experience and when you have somebody who's put their name in with I mean decades and decades of experience um I
think that it would put our airport in a much better situation to add this type of experience onto our board um with Mr. Hoffen Garden. And um I I'm I I understand I mean I [laughter] I'm the young one on this board, so I
understand bringing youth into these situations, but I'm I'm also highly in favor of making sure the most qualified person is put into these positions. Um and I would have to believe that uh Mr.
Hoffen Garden is that person. Okay. Is there any further? Yes, I'll just I'll say something. U so known Tai a long time. I think I first met him when he was four. I think he's a very impressive young man. Um I'd appreciate
what what you said about experience. Um I I would note that it's it's an accomplishment to have 800 flight hours uh in a cockpit. He is he is working towards his multi-engine u rating and hopes to be an instructor
as a as a multi-engine pilot and is running a a small airline. So I I think he's I think he's got a a very interesting perspective um and I appreciate uh the experience that that
he he has and uh in in his education. I think he'll he'll be a great addition to the board. >> If I if I may, um I while I understand that it's we have a lot of pilots on this board already and so it would be
in my opinion it's it would be better to diversify the type of experience and knowledge we have on this board. Um you know especially with all the growth and expansion and whatnot. Um, flying a plane is great and it's, you know, obviously extremely, you know,
accomplished and, um, that's a fantastic skill. Um, but it might be a good idea to have somebody on this board who has decades of experience with expansion
and with um, revitalizing airports. And I just want to put it out there because it needs to be put out there. Um, you know, this person's father is Kendall Moore.
>> So, you know, I'm curious about this and, you know, especially this airport. I understand it's a joint appointment, but this airport is in my district and you know I would never step on your
guys' toes in your district. >> Well, what all airports are under the the Tao Coco airport authority? >> I think Merid Island is I I think so too. Isn't Merid Island Park? >> Aren't there two out of the three though in district one?
>> Arthur Dunn, Tao, and Merit Island Airport, >> right? Two out of the three are in district one, I believe. >> Okay. I think Merit Island is the equally significant part of the whole Tao apparatus. So, I appreciate your
>> Space Coast Regional is is the biggest. It's the you know, it's >> Ty. Do you fly out of T uh Titusville on a regular basis? Like, >> yes, absolutely. >> Please. >> [snorts]
[clears throat] >> Good morning, Tymore. And uh I originally did not prepare comments, but uh if there's time available, I definitely like to make some and I'm available for questions. >> Oh, well, good morning, Tymore. Um I did
originally apply for the position on the board. I'm a patron and a user of uh both Merit Island and Titusville airport uh for probably the last 18 years now. I uh am an aircraft owner. I have an aircraft at Merit Island. I also manage
two additional family aircraft at Merit Island. As you know, professionally, I own a company that buys, sells, and manages Embryer Jets uh predominantly. So, when we bring clients in for Embra tours or they're looking at purchasing real estate in the county, uh we do do
use Space Coast Regional and uh give Carsten and Wendy business as they've been really good to us at Space Coast Executive Jet Center over the years. Um, in addition, and this isn't to speak negatively on the other candidates, but
um, I can add something that the other candidates don't currently do. The board or the other candidates have skill sets that the board has already demonstrated to be fully competent at. one um a highly experienced commercial real
estate developer whereas the board has demonstrated their competency in one of the most recent developments the riverflying condos a collaboration and the hangers that they intend to build at Merit Island and the other applicant uh an airline pilot um at JetBlue I believe
which Mr. Craig who is on the board who is also a pilot um already has that position. But what I can add one as uh Commissioner Goodson mentioned a perspective from the next generation which is something that the board currently does not possess. And two we
have general aviation covered. We have airlines covered. We have the commercial real estate covered. But on the business aviation side I don't believe there's somebody that currently sits in that position. and business aviation is an integral part of growth at in any
airport ecosystem uh especially at smaller airports which I have experience operating in and out of. Those are my comments and I'd be happy to take any questions. >> Okay, great. Thank you so much. Appreciate you you being here. >> Okay, thank you.
>> Okay, those are all our cards. We'll bring it back to the board. >> We have a motion in a second. Is there any further discussion debate? If not, all in favor of the motion signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Well, I can't vote. We can't vote, can
we? I have it. Okay, there's a motion. U >> nay. >> Uh two in favor. Commissioner Felner Goodson and uh one against. So pass. >> Commissioner Delaney against. >> Commissioner uh Delaney against. That
passes uh two to one. Okay. Yes, sir. Okay, our next item is J4 uh annual investment performance report year end in September 30th uh 2025 and county finance department. Thank you
for being here. >> Good morning chairman and and commissioners. Um Mark Peterson with Bvard County Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comproller County Finance Department. And I have here with me today um Richard Bengali with public
financial management and our chair of the investment committee. And one of our employees here is Andrew Walcott. Um this item is requesting the board to accept the Bvard County annual investment report. Um, this report has
been prepared by the county's investment advisor and county finance as required by the county's investment policy, BCC 49, which is in compliance with Florida statutes. Um, and approved by the county's investment committee, which is
comprised of citizens of the county. Um, they approved it at their last quarterly meeting. The county's earnings um in 25 was, as you can see here, was $63 million. In 24, we earned 50 million. Um
a large part of that is because of where interest rates have been. Interest rates are starting to to decline. So, it's not promising that we'll continue to get that, but we've earned $63 million, and that $63 million has been allocated
amongst the various funds. So whatever cash is um in whatever funds be it soil or fire rescue or solid waste or utilities that money goes back to those respective funds that head the cash balances. So it's we we're not taking
the money and putting in one area. The it's al being allocated amongst 160 different funds. Um and board departments do budget for this on an annual basis. that is part of their their budget. So in earning $63
million, it helps to keep cost or replace basically revenue that normally depending upon where the markets were um would be affected in their budget. Um
we have in the portfolio, the county's portfolio is broken up into three areas. We have the short-term portfolio, we have the long-term portfolio, and the MACM portfolio. And each of them has its unique um characteristics. The short-term is investments that are that
are less than a year, which is at year end at September 30th was four almost $420 million. That's what we use to meet payroll, accounts payable, and make make I mean weekly payments. The interest
that we earned last year on the short-term portfolio was 4.11%. Then we have the long-term port and also the short-term portfolio portfolio is managed by county finance. We manage that and dealing with the daily banking.
The long-term portfolio is in the one to threeyear area. um we had 589 million and it earned 4.47%.
That portfolio is overseen by PFM our uh investment advisor. Uh they've got the expertise. They've been doing this for a number of years. They only work with governments which is an added benefit because governments are very unique in what we can do.
Then we have the um MACM portfolio which is multi-asset class management portfolio. This gets into index funds, equities. Um at year end we had $148 million there. We earned
12%. Which is a lot greater than the both the long-term and short term. Where that benefit came in is because of the equities. Um probably about 8 years ago, this
commission approved um us to go and start investing in MACM and it was to try to beat inflation. If we're inflation is 4% 5% and we're earning 3% and 4% we're behind. And so having this
adding this MACM portfolio actually helps us be competitive. It's a small piece of the total 149 million out of a billion dollar portfolio. So we're not throwing everything into one area which also is a benefit in that when the
economy is good we might have short-term out outperforming the benchmark. If we're in the long term there I mean things go like a roller coaster. It's up and down. We never know where things are going to go, but we're trying to protect um the
public's money. The short-term portfolio, I mean, everything is diversified. We see here in the the pie chart to to the left, um it's in local government investment pools, it's in banks, it's in CDs. So,
we don't have all the money in one area. the long-term portfolio there in the upper right corner. You see we're in US treasuries, corporates, agencies. So, we're very diversified. So, any one area
depending upon the economy might get hit harder than another, but generally one area will do better, one area is less. So, it compensates for that. And let me let Richard say a few words as far as I wanted to show show you
here's kind of the history of this last year. Rich is going to talk about where we think some of the factors that we're having to weigh in on in this coming year um with the markets. [clears throat]
>> Great. Thank you Mark. commissioners. Um so, uh as Mark said, uh uh kind of using different words, you know, the past performance over the past fiscal year was uh very good. And in fact, over the past couple years, we've seen uh
pretty good uh performance uh driven by uh a fairly strong uh and growing uh economy. Uh and underlying that uh is really been a strong um uh consumer. about twothirds of the US economy is
driven by uh consumers and and consumer spending. So when we're thinking about the outlook from here uh and what we expect in the coming fiscal year uh we really pay attention to what the consumer is looking like and what the outlook is uh for the consumer among
economists and and um uh and businesses uh and also what uh business conditions look like for for corporations. Um and both of those look fairly strong. uh consumer balance sheets as they are now uh look uh look look fairly strong. Uh
the same thing with uh with uh corporate uh uh corporate balance sheets. Um we're getting a lot of earnings information uh recently uh and that continues to support this idea that uh companies are in a good place and their outlook is
good uh in uh in in the near term. So, uh we um don't uh really forecast and economists and market participants don't forecast that uh we'll have the same strong uh performance that we've seen kind of outside performance that we've seen over the past three years, but that
uh things uh look uh good at least uh for the next fiscal year. uh in terms of how we're positioning your investments, um we we have a neutral uh positioning uh on uh you know on your portfolios given that sort of moderate uh kind of
outlook uh in uh in in the near term. So with that um we'll pass it back to Mark. Let me introduce you to I'm sure many of you know Bob Sox is the chairman of our um investment committee. So I've asked
him to come and and say a few things. Thank Excuse me. Thank you very much. I uh just briefly want to thank uh Mark Peterson, Andrew Walcott, the uh county uh Bvard County Clerk of
the Court staff and PFM Asset Management for the success that we have had. I have been on the committee for six years, was elected chairman last year. Very proud to present these results to the commission. Uh I think the results are excellent and we appreciate your
support. Thank you. And I'll I'll finalize before the board um approves this. Um Clerk Satov uh could not be here today. she had a a previous um appointment that she couldn't make it, but she was she
really would have liked to have been here. Um but she just sends her regards. So that's the report. If there's any questions that we can that we can answer, um I enter entertain that. >> Do we have any questions? >> Chairman, if I may.
>> Yes. Go ahead. I don't have any questions, but I just wanted to say thank you so much to Mark and your team for um coming today. When when we got this uh briefing, I really felt like this was information that the public would like to know. It's a question that I get all the time is what are we doing
with all the money that we have? Are we investing it? And you guys are doing an incredible job and I just wanted to get this out there for the public to see. This is some great stuff that we're doing here. So, thank you guys so much not only for your hard work but for doing this presentation.
>> Thank you. >> And it's a lot of money. Uh any other questions? Question I have do we invest in Bitcoin? >> No. [laughter] One year you were I did have a question from from a commissioner said uh can we
invest in gold? It's like no we don't take on anything speculative. Um so the things that we have I mean the primary thing in our policy is um safety that's number one and then liquidity and
then return and it's in that that order. So we're not going to take on assume risk that would jeopardize the the county's investments. I know that uh being involved with the state government and we have investment strategies and what have you and it's a
big chunk of money. Um we've made some decisions not to invest in certain c countries that uh promote terrorism, anti-semitism, apartheid, other things. Uh do we are we involved in that? Do we follow the lead
of the state on those type of decisions or do we have a sort of a not lassair private how are we different in that regard? the the board's policy which again complies with Florida statutes um
indicates that we have to identify here are the things that we are allowed to invest in and over over the years there's been times that we've come back to the board after the the investment committee has done lengthy vetting of the process and said yes we we want to
invest in this then we would come back before the board and via an ordinance we would then be able to to invest in something. Um, again, the the speculation of getting in some some governments or
dealing with some entities. I know I believe there's some governments that actually invest in foreign bonds. >> Richard didn't address that. >> Add on that. >> Um, so, um, so we don't invest, uh, by policy, company policy, any of the companies that are on the scrutinized
company, uh, list that the state puts out. Um again, you know, because we only invest in governments, we, you know, are very uh aware of the headline risk uh associated with those. So even though it's not a requirement, that's a state requirement, it doesn't flow down to the local governments, we don't do it at
that level. Uh and then most of those companies don't really issue large uh public debt. Um so they wouldn't even meet our criteria for uh the types of investments, large public liquid investments that we invest in anyway. Um so
And one one other quick question I have would be my final one and I do appreciate you being here. Um I know in making investment decisions, do we ever choose to invest on in areas that have a benefit for our region? For example,
aerospace investment versus industries that might be in the other side of the country. provide capital in those entities that are promoting our local economy. Is that ever a factor? >> I would say no. >> No. It's not part of your policy.
>> Okay. If we wanted to make that a policy, would we have the ability to do that? >> That's >> that's a good question. >> Good question on that. So there was some legislation passed in uh 2023
um that um uh limited uh the uh sort of creating sort of extra criteria outside of purely pecuniary um factors. Um so that's sort of traditional credit metrics. What's the financial stability of a particular type of com you know you
know investment. So you know what you're asking for local investment which may be a little outside of that. So we'd kind of have to research that whether that would go in violation of of >> it wouldn't it wouldn't necessarily be local but it would be
>> if we private industry local itch or >> it could be a company in well Seattle there's one out there couple of them >> but it has a role just a thought I'm not advocating anyway more we have this
brains trust here I wanted to ask those question Jim I think did you grab your mic when I >> he beat me to the answer. I'm sure there's state standards and certain laws and investment guidelines you need to follow. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. I say something real quick.
Appreciate you coming here today and doing uh doing this presentation and uh meeting with me earlier. We had a a discussion. >> Uh obviously inflation, we're all we're all dealing with it. Uh it's an interesting thing when I talk with folks
that there's consumer inflation. And we talked about this. You go to the store, you buy something, it's a dollar more than it was a year ago. That's consumer inflation. But the inflation to local government is much higher than that. So you think of the things that we must do
that the market doesn't do. Um roads, bridges, these these kinds of things. And the cost of of those things year overyear or even replacing equipment, that's that's a that's a tough thing that we're dealing with. so much higher.
And so I greatly appreciate that you've you've found ways to get us uh a better return on on our money. It's it it isn't it isn't a nice thing. It's a it's a necessary thing. So I appreciate your uh your fiscal management for us. Thank
you. >> I'd make a motion, sir, if that's where we are. >> Second. >> There's a motion second to approve the report. And uh any discussion, debate? See, >> I just want to say thank you for the 63 million. [laughter] >> We certainly appreciate that and your
work and time as well as our staff to supporting it. Um, our counties and good financial hands. So, thank you. >> All right. All in favor signify by saying yay. >> Yay. >> I >> opposed. Motion carries unanimously.
Thank you so much. Thank you. >> We have no public comment cards on item K. That leads us to board reports. We'll start with the staff with Jim Lefeld. Uh Mr. Chair, I'm passing out a letter.
We sent out an email late. Let me pull up my thing. Uh sent out an email late yesterday. This is something that's been happening through the weekend. I received a call on Friday night from Secretary Tyler who's the DOT district 5 secretary. Um the deal the state DOT is
statewide is applying for a grant which is the statewide advancement of future enhancements at interc city passenger rail crossings program. Um and so they've been asking for support. Um each of the districts have been going all the local governments asking for support.
This is a grant that's going to target about 900 crossings statewide. And those those are railroad crossings that have passenger rail service. So off top of my head, that would be Bright Line, Sun Rail, Tri Rail, Amtrak. Uh I'm not sure if the street car in Tampa is in there.
Um but you know, so it's all throughout the state. Spoke to Secretary Tyler yesterday. Um Mark and Karina from public works have been on a phone call with City of Coco and DOT. Uh Georgina from the TPO has also been speaking with DOT. So this has been kind of going here
and about. Um the way the grant would work would be if uh the state wins it or gets awarded they would it's 80% federal uh which is pretty typical. 20% would be the local match. DOT would provide their standard a local match they provide half
is 10%. Secretary Tyler said that they would be going to the railroad partners for half of that remaining 10%. So our match would be about 5%. So, I asked the question, you know, what is 5%, you know, is that 5 million? Is that $5? Right now, they're estimating that our
local match be somewhere around $150,000 over five years. Um, uh, and we're still double checking because that's with 49 different Well, let me make my notes. 49 different crossings. We already have some grants for some of the crossings, so it might be a little bit lower number. Um, the letter you have there
just talks about how we will work and support to come up with local match if necessary. The other letter talked about a hard match. I told him we couldn't do that. Um and I also told him we couldn't, you know, I can't commit the county to anything that we can't fund. So the letter in front of you is just
asking um how do I it is of asking you to support a letter to DOT for them for their grant application. Grant application is due February 6. So this is kind of moving fast. Thought about at the workshop, but you know, you can't take the official action at a workshop. So, the letter's
there. When you look, you'll see there's the double X's on the number of railroad crossings because we're finalizing that. If you approve this letter, then I will have the finalized one for the chair on Thursday. Or you can uh just if you decide you can have it where I have a copy where I can sign one and submit it
on beha, you know, behalf of us to the DOT. Just quick question just to just to clarify anything that the um would be appropriated in in as part of the match from uh the county we would bring back
to the board. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. We're going to have future meeting. >> We're going to have to have some sort of agreement with DOT on. >> Yeah. So so this today in and of itself isn't isn't an agreement so much as we're we're saying we're interested in DOT >> going out and seeking the funds. This
does not commit us to expending or allocating any funds of our own at this point. >> If there's not other discussion, I'd make a motion for the chair to uh sign the letter. >> A motion second. All in favor say I. I. >> I. Motion carries.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um so I just curious, you know, our county administrator is known for his very innovative dress. He's a He's a furl in the fashion of the plow of fashion. Uh please please show us
your what you're wearing underneath your jacket. I >> I don't know if you can see on camera. There we go. See? So I can >> Oh, wait a minute. He's already playing the video. >> There we go. So now you know you are you >> thank you Logan.
>> That was that was awesome. >> Thank you. [applause] So and I just have to say everyone at the clerk's office can now spell hooser. Right. So there you go. Thank you. Well, we congratulate you on a wonderful win and storybook finished probably one of the most historic college football
seasons ever. Really excited that Indiana won and u it's it's great to have a county administrator with such such roots and um it's really really fantastic to have a Big 10 representative here that uh that now
I've become a family of the Big 10 with my son working for Illinois. So, we're we're going to root for the Big 10. Uh hopefully Indiana will be second place next year. >> Yeah, there you go. And I did look it up. They're not playing Illinois next year. >> Oh, we have Ohio State. >> And there is a Ohio State grad. Yep.
>> Wow. We're really well represented here, aren't we? >> Um but again, it's been awesome. Appreciate uh appreciate your spirit and joy. And I know it's great to have staff u so involved being being a big college football fan. We have some staff from
another school down where >> the one you beat shellacked. >> Yes. >> Trouched. >> Yes. [laughter] >> That was >> Yeah. I won't mention Alabama. So >> So thank you very much for that good report.
>> Thanks, Mr. Chair. >> County Attorney Morris Richardson. >> No report, Mr. Chair. >> No report. Don't want to mention Vanderbilt's uh >> No, we won't even go there. So, they had a great season by Vanderbilt standards. >> Yes, they did. Yes, they did. Um,
Commissioner Delaney, >> thank you. Um, I just wanted to uh give some upcoming opportunities for residents to stay engaged and for their voices to be heard. Our first budget um
workshop is coming up January 29th. That's this Thursday at 1:00. And if you can't come, it it will be livereamed. So you'll be able to uh watch that in the comfort of your home. And if you don't want to sit through the 4-hour meeting, feel free to zoom over, you know, 3
hours in or something and um you know, come and give us your public comments. It's going to be a lot of really good information. Um I believe it's we're going to be talking uh public works, storm water, and utilities. And so those are, you know, things that especially,
you know, in my district, it's it is always uh a topic of conversation. Um and then on January 30th, uh we're going to be well, we aren't. The FD is going to be holding the public hearing for the
Blue Origin wastewater discharge permit renewal. um that is going to be at 3696 Lake Drive in Coco from 4 to 7. Unfortunately, the FD um decided not to move the meeting to
allow for more um people to come, but luckily the county staff, thank you so much. you guys have opened up some overflow parking and um so hopefully we'll be able to get as you know many people as possible in that room and uh
so that you can bring your comments to FD. Um, we also uh just recently had with FDOT on Febru um Oh, I'm sorry. No. Uh, we just recently had a meeting with FDOT
about the 524 um expansion and that was incredible. I mean, we probably had 150 people show up to that meeting. So, thank you so much D1 for showing up to that and um you know really being engaged in that
conversation. Your comments will be um you can still write written comments until February 2nd and I have a Substack Katie Delaney Substack that um gives you all the information about the project and the links to where you can submit
those um those comments to FDOT. Uh, also for the FD meeting, they have extended public comment to February 6th. I also have a Substack article on that where you can find all the links to get your written comments in if you can't
get to this meeting. Um, and then of course, speak up deadline uh is January 31st, which it's coming up. As of today, we have 34 submissions. And um I just wanted to talk about uh
I'll be bringing back up for consideration a workshop and uh I just wanted to mention I'm sure that you know I feel pretty confident I I knew Susan pretty well and um she would definitely
be flattered with the naming of um the program after her. But what in my opinion what would really what she'd really feel honored about is to make this program the best it could be. And um so I hope that I get support for that
in the future. And um I was wondering if uh county manager if you had any updates about the uh POS notification and the potential website and how that's going. >> Uh yeah. Yes, Commissioner. We've had a
couple meetings and we'll be ready to present to you guys a proposed website on the February 10th board meeting. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. And uh I just wanted to let everybody know that I am going to be putting out um a an article on Substack uh following this
meeting about POS and where you can find more information, the EPA links um so that you can get more informed for the for the care of your of your families. And uh I hope everybody has a great day. Thank
you. Thank you. Okay. District four. Commissioner Goodson. >> Did you have a question? >> Three. Oh, sorry. Two. He's two. >> Two. I'm sorry. Two. Two. I'm sorry about that.
>> Commissioner Goodson. >> No report, sir. >> Okay. Thank you. I got confused. It was L4 and I read district four. >> Well, it didn't help that I said three. [laughter] >> That's okay. Okay. District three. >> Mr. Atinson,
>> I don't actually have a report. I have a request. So, um it looks like um the fix 840 um is kind of laying around. The bill 1465 is not making it through its subcommittees. Um I've spoken to our
state representatives, a few of them, not all of them. And um all I keep hearing is there doesn't seem to be much interest. So, what I'm asking is that um any of our board members who have contacts, relationships with our state representatives, if you could just put a
bug in their ear um because like we said before, this this affects the whole county, but specifically, Commissioner Alman, I wanted to ask you in the sunshine. Um you worked really hard to get the um area of state critical
concern um done. So, if it's possible for you to think, take some time and to think about what I, as District 3, could be doing to help this process since I'm new, think about it and let me know, that would be fantastic. >> Okay. Well, first of all, I just want to thank you for your leadership and the
great job you've done and advocating for the South Beaches and Bvard. Um, it's abhorrent what the state has done to local planning and local governments with the Senate Bill 180. Um I've always felt and I you know many call it a
mistake. I I don't very few things happen by mistake up there and I think it was a significant overreach of state government infringing upon people's ability to govern locally and um it's hurting our state dramatically. It's
going to hurt our South Beaches. Um I appreciate you bringing this up and I I will personally reach out and just keep doing what you're doing. Um, I'm surprised our governor hasn't become more active. Uh, he's had a strong track rate record of conservation
in Florida and hopefully he will he will step up and advocate for us. I um he did sign the bill into law, but maybe maybe he got some bad advice, but um I I wonder and I was going to ask
Morris in relation to this if if our legislature doesn't come through for us and it could be that they do come through for us. I don't want to prejudge because these things are are really intentionally held hostage >> up until the very end and they become a
significant negotiating point. Everybody in Tallahassee is always looking for an angle and leverage and something to barter with. It's it's um like a third world market. Uh best analogy I could think of but um
so that could be happening as well. So to continue and engage, but I was going to ask Morris, I know if this isn't resolved, and we talked about this early on in the process, but we wanted to give the legislature legislature an opportunity to resolve it. But do we still have an opportunity to engage in
the lawsuit that the I think it's a thousand friends >> potentially. I don't know that we would necessarily want to engage in that lawsuit. We have a unique circumstance with regard to the area of critical state concern. So, we might want to discuss doing something, you know,
separately even that addresses our unique circumstances as well. >> Okay. >> If I may. >> Yes. Um, I I know that the bill that Commissioner Atinson that you referenced, that one is definitely very important, but I just wanted to kind of broaden this conversation a little bit
because there's a lot of bills up there right now that are targeting agriculture land, especially, making it extremely easy for um developers to come in and just do what they will. Um, also there's a couple bills up there right now that are
targeting wetlands as well. And so I think that all of these things together are going to really um change the dynamic of Florida, take away our home rule, which is constitutionally protected. Um, and so I would be in
heavy support of doing whatever it takes to protect our our community. C >> could I ask a technical question? >> Yes. the you mentioned 1465 uh I think that's the bill number right in the house um that that one's seems to
be stalled if you will >> but there isn't an exact Senate companion but there is a Senate version is is that is that moving forward I haven't looked recently >> the 840 >> yeah I guess that's it >> it was doing well I I haven't looked at
in the last couple of days so I don't I don't know >> I mean because you know sometimes it is it is the situation that one chamber chamber will do more work on on a bill. >> SB840 is advancing toward the Senate Rules Committee. That's going to be its final stop before the Senate floor. 840
is by far the preferable of the alternatives to the House bill. >> Uh but SB840 seems to be the one with momentum. >> Okay. So that's that's ready for roles. That sounds like >> that would be much better for our situation. Frankly, 1465 as written now wouldn't solve some of our issues. So,
so just Commissioner Alman knows better than me. He was he was he was up there, but I worked up there and so they the Senate's got their version ready to go. We're in favor of the Senate version, it sounds like so far. >> And uh when it comes over, they they do
a strike all, they make a match up. >> Yeah. >> Done. >> And that's a high probability. >> I that's the way it's starting to sound right now. So >> Well, I appreciate the conversation. Thank you. Okay. All right. >> We have a very good delegation and I know they're working hard on it. So, I
think there's a good chance we at least get the uh the area critical conser resolve hopefully. And um I just hope that they do the bigger picture and they really really restore some of these planning um
uh plan the planning authority local government has because it has serious negative impacts on our open space our wetlands our agriculture our green belt u 100% counter to what the general public or this the legislature has been
doing recent years. Thank you for bringing this up. Okay, District 4, Commissioner Felner. >> Just what I said, sir, would be my report, if you will. So, I appreciate
it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh I have one item that um I know I guess it was last meeting or two meetings ago we had a presentation on PACE and we looked at the possibility of
rein implementing the PACE program and I think which is something we ought to look at. But we um our tax collector received an incredibly negative and um threatening uh adversarial letter uh
related to PACE. Um attacking her ability to comment and have public input. Really really attacking uh her ability and our ability to set minimum uh amounts of what we charge overhead. I
was in disbelief where we put a olive branch out there trying to welcome this industry in lie of all the past negativity and problems in the past and we hadn't even schedule a public hearing or talk about it and they're already threatening and attacking and limiting
our ability to have public dialogue our constituents ability to have for first amendment rights. And we've always been very, this commission has always been very uh supportive of diversity of thought and ideas and encouraging
debate. And I think we ought to just put this on hold until we resolve these attacks and these issues and these threats in this letter. I know I've talked to Morris about it. Um, and I was going to ask the board to just to put it on hold until we resolve some of those issues.
>> I'd be in favor of that. Do you need that in the way of a motion or we just simply don't I'm just asking a technical question. We just don't take it up. Um is it because we went to sort of legislative intent? Is that what
>> right now I have direction to uh research consumer protection measures and prepare a resolution to bring back to the board for consideration for some me for me to pause that. I would just want clear consensus direction from the board that I should stand down for now
until the board directs otherwise. >> I'd like to open up for cons. >> I'm I'm fine with that. Um, personally, if we're we're in discussion, if it's her uh Commissioner Delaney's motion to >> I I don't know if we want to say
permanently table it or if or just do we want to withdraw our our prior um motion. Is that what do what do you need? What whatever >> that would be fine. I just have standing direction right now to proceed. So unless I'm told otherwise, I would proceed to bring it back. I didn't want to put a burden on staff and for us to
incur the taxpayer incur expenses when we're we're under a constitutional office and I say we because it is county government it's kind of under attack right now and um if we look at consumer protections probably the number one would be the things
addressing the things that are brought up in this letter. >> Um I just thought it was send a strong message. Yes. >> Good question. I haven't seen the letter. Um who is it actually from? What? >> It's from the Florida Pace Funding Agency, uh, their attorney,
James Dinkens. It relates to prior litigation between the tax collectors, which our tax collector wasn't a party to. U, but it really relates to um financing that they issued previously. So the letter, you know, isn't so much about going forward, but
it was issued from and and that's the So the gentleman who spoke uh at your meeting at your last meeting, Chris Peterson, spoke on behalf of the same agency that the attorney represents that sent this letter to the tax collector, I believe the next day after our meeting. >> Okay. Thank you. Wow.
>> And it eerily brought up issues that we talked about. One of the things we talked about was what the clerk could charge an overhead cost to administer this program >> and uh was threatening her to to not
have the statutory authority that she has. And I say we because if she's incurring additional expense, it's costing us. So I I don't know we could um I just don't want Morris to be working in one direction and expending
staff precious time and resources. uh knowing that we already are at odds with this this industry and already threatening and attacking them. >> Well, I think you had a motion by No, no, I'm I'm sorry, sir. Uh no, good. I think we're
>> It sounds It sounds like we're in a an in agreement. So, I would second her motion to to to pause this. >> Yeah, >> that would be fine to stop. I would understand that. >> Okay. All right. So, those in favor signify by saying I I
>> um >> I >> that passes unanimously and we'll we'll wait and see what happens with >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I would just ask the clerk, could you please just prepare a memo to that effect to to me. Thank you very much. >> Thank you for bringing that up.
>> Okay, no problem. Thank you. And that concludes my report and I think it concludes uh very good meeting and thank you to the commission and staff and the public >> meeting journ. The opinions expressed by any member of
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