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their comments or presentations to matters relating to county business that are within the board's control, authority, and jurisdiction. Good evening and welcome to the August 12th regular meeting for the board of county commissioners. We have a quorum.
We'll call the meeting to order tonight. If you'll turn your phone off, that'll help us greatly. Tonight, we have an invitation by Donnie Le, Second Adam Ministries. Sir, you're recognized. Thank for everybody to bow. We'll pray. Father, we're so humbled and thankful uh
for this brand new day that you prepared for us today. And you tell us to rejoice and be glad in it. And father, we need not go much further than the cross of Calvary to see your demonstrated love for us. That while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. And so we rejoice.
We rejoice. But Father, you also uh have made it clear that you love organization and we're thankful for that. And and Father, we come here tonight in an organized meeting. And I know that's pleasing to you. And so, Father, we
recognize in a meeting like this that we can absolutely do nothing without you. This is why we have an invocation. This is why we pray because the people before me, the county commissioners whom we love and their families who sacrifice
right along with them. Uh, Father, we pray for their families. We pray, Father, you would uh just meet all of their physical needs, meet all their spiritual needs. and Father, and then the county commissioners, what a heavy burden and load for so many of them that
Father, they're making decisions for our county and they're not going to please everyone all the time, but yet, Father, they uh distinguish in the decision making and what's right and what's wrong. And so, Father, we ask you to give them the wisdom that only comes
from you that they may do their job appropriately and and feel good uh and be able to sleep at night knowing that Father, they've sought you out and you've led and guide and directed the decisions. And so, we do pray for them. And Father, we're thankful for them and
ask you to be in this meeting tonight. For the people behind me, Father, I pray for them. I pray that father that they've come with the right heart, the right attitude uh father and one of the things father that I learned uh while I was in the military father and I'm
thankful for it is that when you see a problem uh father don't complain we don't complain about it we look at the problem we give us some thought we come up with a possible solution and let people tell us why we can't or can do it
and so father may this meeting be that kind of or organ organization tonight and then father we'll give you the praise for that. So we thank you for the Cathy's behind the scenes and those who I don't know the names of that would be impossible to have a meeting like this
without those behind the scenes. And so we lift them up too as well. And so father again we turn this meeting and submit it over to you and pray that you'll be honored in this meeting tonight and give you the praise for it all in Jesus name. Amen.
Well done, sir. Thank you very much. Commissioner Goodson for pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. Okay, commissioners, we have minutes to approve from the July 3rd, 2025 special meeting and July 17th, 2025 zoning meeting. Is there a motion? Move to approve. Have a motion to approve by Commissioner
Delaney. Have a second by Commissioner Alman. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Atinson? Yes. Commissioner Alman? Yes. Chairman Felner? Yes. We'll show that passes 5-0. Thank you, commissioners. Commissioner Delaney, you have a resolution tonight.
Thank you. If Dr. Patsky and his um all of his people with him, please come on up and I'll read your proclamation. This proclamation is celebrating 60 years um of the aging matters in Bvard.
Whereas it is the desire of the Bvard County Board of County Commissioners to celebrate the enormous contributions of individual and businesses which substantially contribute to the economic vitality of Bvard County. And
whereas in honor of the celebration of the 60th anniversary of Aging Matters in Bvard, the board of county commissioners is justly proud to congratulate the Aging Matters Board of Directors and Leadership Team. And whereas Aging
Matters ImberVard, formerly known as the Community Service Council, was incorporated as a non-for-profit organization in 1965 to promote the general welfare of Bvard County and established programs such as
the Senior Helpline and Retired and Senior Volunteer Program. And whereas in 1974 in conjunction with the older Americans act, Aging Matters in Bvard began their meals on wheels program in
Bvard and in 2024 delivered 336,000 meals on wheels to homebound seniors along with wellness checks and friendships too. And whereas through the community care for the elderly funding
provided personal care and support services to seniors in need beginning in the early 1980s and expanded into the community home services program in 1999 which continues today. And whereas
with the acquisition of the Sunflower House in 2006, Aging Matters in Bvard continued operation of this invaluable senior resource and caregivers center and added the Vets Driving Vets program
in 2013, providing needed transportation for local veterans. And now therefore, be it resolved that the board of county commissioners of Bvard County, Florida, does hereby congratulate Aging Matters in Bvard upon the celebration of the 60
years of distinguished service to the citizens of Bvard. Done, ordered, and adopted in regular session this 12th day of August, 2025. Thank you so much. And uh you want to make the motion, Commissioner?
I'd like to make a motion to approve. Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Delaney. I think I have a second by Commissioner Alman. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney, yes. Vice Chair Goodson, yes. Commissioner Atinson, yes. Commissioner Alman, yes. Chairman Felner, yes. Thank you, commissioners, and Dr.
Pamsky. Sir, you're recognized. On behalf of the Boulevard County Commission on Aging, I would like to extend our congratulations to the formerly Community Services Council and now Aging Matters in Bvard
for 60 years of dedicated service to the seniors of Bvard County. So, not only congratulate them, but thank them for all they do every single day for our seniors. And with the Meals on Wheels program, as you mentioned, in addition to all the other things that they do,
they're providing the basic nutrition and basic medicine for all these elders. So, I'd like to turn it over to the CEO, Tom, who's going to to uh give you a little bit more information. Tom, thank you. Commissioners, staff, and guests. My
name is Tom Camden. I am the president and CEO of Aging Matters in Bvard. And in that role, I serve as a member of the Boulevard Commission on Aging. On behalf of Aging Matters in Boulevard directors, its professional staff, hundreds of volunteers, and the thousands of seniors that we have served since we first
launched in 1965. Thank you most sincerely for this proclamation. It means a great deal to us. On July 1st, we kicked off our new champions initiative on October on October 30th at our champions breakfast launch event.
will um that initi that initiative will take flight. As we prepare for launch, we are looking back to remember the champions who made all that we have done possible. Among those champions are you and the commissioners who preceded you,
who had the foresight to support our mission and keeping pace with Space Ghost seniors, keeping them home, independent, safe, healthy, and with quality of life for as long as possible. In this proclamation, you mentioned your desire to celebrate the enormous
contributions of businesses that substantially contribute to the economic vitality of Bvoulevard County. We're a business that is in the business of saving money. Donald, a 92-year-old in critical need of Meals on Wheels, lives in Bvoulevard County. Donald is homebound, has
advanced dementia, and while his family can assist him, they have extremely limited resources. So Donald was on the verge of moving into a nursing home. Why? Because Donald along with 21 other people in critical need were on the Meals and Wheels weight list that has
330 seniors on it with 22 in in most critical need. Without champions like you, the Space Coast Meals on Wheels weight list will double by this time next year. Why? Well, federal, local funding, state funding no longer keep up
with the growing cost of food and transportation and the silver tsunami that is flooding into Florida. So, it's time for new champions. Champions like Sher Tabet of Remax Space Coast who heard we were starting our adopter
senior program to drive down the meals on wheels weight list starting with Donald and other seniors in critical need. So, she donated $2,000. the cost to feed one senior for a full year and now Donald could stay in his home.
Consider this. If Donald instead of went into a nursing home, it would cost about $340 a day on average. So in less than a week, the cost could exceed the $2,000 it took to keep his family and Donald safe in his home independently healthy and safe with a better quality of life.
Commissioner K. Delaney met us at a recent uh at the Titusville Chamber and uh in that setting we were looking to set up a meals on wheels delivery drivealong route and we're working on that now because she's going to come and and drive and see what we do. We invite
each of you to do the same. So you can meet some of the seniors we champion in closing invite you to share our vision of the for the future that Boulevard County will be an example to the nation of how to treat it citizens as they age.
to do what we are. Um, to do that, we are going to need all of you to help us continue to champion our Space Co for our Space Coast seniors so we can go well beyond for the next 60 years. I want to thank you again. I'm happy to offer any
information or any other question, answer any questions you may have, but we do appreciate this proclamation. All right, sir. Thank you. Commission Commissioner Delaney has the resolution for you. And if possible get pictures of
uh Don Walker's going to do that for you. Um want to go down there, Commissioner. Let's all go down there. Come on. Come on, Commissioner. Me too. Well, okay. Commissioners, go on to consent.
Is there anything we need to take off consent? I have one card. Sarah Hajj F14 the appointments. I'm kind of confused because I thought it was F14 that is going to be discussed
for this count the county manager. Uh that's not the right item. Ma'am, that's I1. You want to come back on I1? We'll just change it for you here. Oh, thank you. That'll be later. Great. Okay. Okay, that was the end of the cards. Uh, is there a motion for consent?
Move to approve. Okay, I think I had a motion by Commissioner Goodson first. I have a second by Commissioner Delaney. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Adderson? Yes. Commissioner Altman? Yes. Chairman Felner? Yes. And we'll show consent passes 5-0.
Thank you. We have a few G section cards. Um, I think it says Reverend JB Dennis. You're recognized, sir. Reverend JB Dennis, 3710 Catalina Drive. I'm the president of the National Action
Network in Coco, Florida. I'm also a Navy combat veteran, retired, and I'm here to speak on the lies and racism of a county government. Usually I've been up here to this podium for the last 15 years. So when you see
me, we got a serious issue going on in West Coco. We are a 99% black community. And the first thing I want to tell you, we pay the same amount of money that everybody else does, but we get no service for our money. I was in the county manager's office 7 months ago
about the grade all because the last storm we had because they wasn't cleaning those ditches out. I had water in my living room ruin my carpet. So to prevent that I had to bring the news in it but they started bringing the great all out once a year to dredge those
ditches. So when we got excessive rain we don't have no flooding. I was at the county manager's office seven months ago and I had to call in about four other times before I got a response. So the response I got was from the streets and highway supervisor which told a lie and
uh about the great all was going to be in another neighborhood for about two months. All right, that was several months ago. Okay, now I called Mr. Laney's office one time and uh they asked me that I want to make appointment. And I said, "No, just let her know that we need that great all out
here to dredge these ditches. So once you get a chance, I'd like for you to call me while we can do a ride around in West Coco." So it's been 7 months and the great all haven't showed up yet. I seen it over in Leb Park. I saw it today, I think, on
Easter. I saw it down there on Plucker Bomb cleaning out the fish ponds. So the last time we had the storm out there in my in the water come in my living room and rent my carpet. I call that a loss because the carpet was old. But if it happen again, I'm going have to take some kind of action. So what I'm saying
is we pay the same amount of taxes everybody else do and we not get not getting in the services. It's been seven months the great all ain't showed up yet. I see it everywhere. I see that some don't even need cleaning out today. So Mr. Laney, I know you knew. So give
me a call with a fresh chance you get. We'll do we can do a ride around. I'd be happy to. Thank you. Question sir. Question. Question please. Yes. Um just let me ask staff something. I Levid Park would be Rock Ledge. Correct.
Yes. Would Yes sir. So would that be a rock ledge greatall or would it be a county greatall? I believe that would be a rock ledge greatall maintaining their I don't know. Now just hang on one other question. Let me ask you this. In the
county, how many great dolls do we have? One. I I don't I'd have to ask Mark Bern. You have three, Mark. Is that correct? How many miles of ditches? Got walking excavator, too. Yeah. Okay, that's right. The walking
excavator, too. But how many miles of ditches do we have to clean with three graders or three great halls and the walking excavator? We have approximately a thousand miles of ditches and swailes combined. Now, in reference to this gentleman
here, Plucky Bomb, you know, uh, Bernett Road, you know, that's pretty much in your neighborhood, correct? Yes. And they was out there with the great old cleaning the fish pond out. See the fish pond doesn't flood. But the dishes behind Calina, the houses
over there, there are three ditches that are a problem. Correct. See, I live on Catalina, but the houses behind it, if you don't dredge them out at least once a year. Yes, sir. When we get two or three weeks of rain, like a storm, the water comes out the ditches and it's 4 ft deep in the
streets. Your car float down the road. Correct. Okay. So, we don't want that to happen again. I understand. We like for you to come out once a year, right? and do it because we pay the same amount of money everybody else does. But we get the Okay, I understand. Just stay right there. Okay.
U How do you rotate example his neighborhood? Would that be once a year or would be twice a year? Tell me how you do that. So it it really depends uh commissioner. Um so it depends on the number of ditches within each um district, how
much equipment, how many resources we have. But then we also try to prioritize based on whether or not they're uh similar to roads, whether they're collector ditches or um you know just local ditches. Um historically we've had
we have ditches within the county that don't get maintained or hadn't been maintained for 10 20 30 years. We're doing much better where on average it's 1 to three years. Uh I'd have to look into this specific issue to be able to answer u you know for this particular
ditch. Now, I know u maybe two or three years ago you did a lot of work at Stratford and Range Road and then you did work uh down Clear Lake and it the the ditch crosses back over 95 and goes out to the river. Correct. All right.
But but with his particular situation, can you do some research and get back to the board? Absolutely. To to his problem. Now, what fish pond are you referring to, sir? the one on pluck and bomb and the new $300,000
homes where I live at is $200,000 homes. Yes. So they was out there cleaning the fish pond out. The fish ponds done never flowed. I've been living out there that 16 years. Would that be the Rock ledge pond? Yes. Okay. Well, that's not county. No, that' be Rock ledge, right? Okay.
But when I call the county streets and bridges, they say we only got one great all. Well, you got to be kidding. We We resolved that. We've got three. Got to be kidding. Well, um, three and we have a walking mucker, whatever what it's called, right? We have two of those. We we have several Kaisers. Um, but
they're assigned to different districts. Okay. But you're going to get back to the board on his problem and let us know when it's scheduled or something like that or when it was done last. Is that correct, Mark? Uh, that is. And I was just getting a text on this. So, um, we actually have,
um, so I apologize. We have 12 great alls, five Kaisers on average. Outfalls are cleaned once to twice a year. U and collectors are three to five. Um just as I mentioned, so but I can look into this specific issue. And also I'd like for you to tell the
board how many miles a day do you get when you are cleaning a ditch? I don't know if you get two or 10 or what, but I'd like to know that. Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. Uh okay. I got one other thing. Sure. Okay. When the great all comes out
to clean those three problem ditches out in my community in West Coco, it takes about four days. Do they do a good job? May I chair? Yes. D once a once a year. We don't have any flooding. So they do a good job. Yes, they do. Thank God. When they show up.
Okay, that's the question. All right, sir. Thank you. Uh Jesse Wright, may I pass these out? Sure. Who would I uh You could give them to Commissioner Delaney and we'll pass them down.
Go ahead, sir. Good evening. Uh, my name is Jesse Wright. I'm the developer and the sponsor for the Titusville Resort and Destination at 3550 South Washington Avenue. I want to thank the commissioners number one for the grant
that you approved, the 2.4 million, and I think we're going to go for the first trunch of about 800,000 so we can move on to getting the infrastructure done. What you're looking at is a package that I have created. I have gone to the city
of Titusville as far as getting to the environmental uh commission there that unanimously agreed and approved that the city of Titusville should be involved in the leak that has been coming from Cumberland Farm since 1983.
I have not been able to get anyone to listen to the issue that I have and that is the contamination that is existing in the uh portion of the property nearly about almost half of it about almost 5 acres. As you see on the second page,
you will see that the groundwater tab is around 3.5. This means that the contamination has been moving towards the lagoon. Uh FD of course is the responsible party uh and uh and and you see the communications
between me and them which is really not that nice and polite. That's the only way I can get their attention. But nevertheless, I'm actually pleading to the to your board to see if the county can be involved. Uh this contamination
uh right now uh is uh hurting the businesses there as well. We still have about 23 tenants in the existing mall. This about 112,000 square feet. Uh we have kids that is going to jazz and ballet. The this business has been there
for about 20 years. Uh some of you may know the the mall uh prior to me de demolishing about 168,000 square feet of it. This has been a battle between me and FD for a long long time. Uh, I've
purchased the property in 2018 in February 2018 and all I have done so far is just keep giving him access for monitoring and monitoring and monitoring. This has been nothing but just watching the paint dry. This is a
second phase fortunately. But nevertheless, we still going to be developing this property. 22 acres 10 acres of it is not usable and we have tenants there. They have not done any OVA, any sort of gas coming out of the
ground. They have not done anything about the residents possible contamination. I've got 12 seconds. So, when the residents do not see what's going on below the ground, obviously they're not being notified and that's the reason I'm
here tonight. I'll be happy to answer any questions. I think I have a question from Commissioner and then you want to ask questions. Okay. Um, Commissioner Goodson, go ahead. Question is, um, have you contacted the
state D about the gas leaks? I have, yes, but they have been nonresponsive. Have you contacted your local state representative for help? Yes. You see the emails going back and forth between And what did what what did he do for you? Nothing. It's just you see a copy of his
email. Basically, I have looked at this. It still needs to be monitoring and all that, but there have been they have been the worst referee that I've ever seen. Now, last question. Chair, may I um Titusville has Titusville helped?
City of Titusville. I just talked with the mayor and he said, as you see, I was going to go to the city of Titusville city council meeting. He said, don't come there and just come to you, believe it or not. But is it's is it in is it in our jurisdiction, Jim or somebody?
I'm gonna Chad will correct me. This is the fuel tank monitoring program and so we handle that for the city of Titusville. Okay. Amanda's there. Tad knows a little bit too. So So you're the county's aware of this. Yes. Oh yeah. My you can see part of my edited email in there in the response.
If you could look at just please the last two or three pages. I have highlighted the areas that this has been approved unanimously by the TEC and I understand that the the city is not going to be respecting
their unanimous approval. I'm literally begging that the county would be involved. Let Delaney ask hers and I would like Mr. Delaney while Amanda's making her way to the box there. Go ahead. Um this is a question for staff. Um
what exactly is our power and responsibility in this situation? Good evening commissioners. Thank you. So this is part of our delegated program um from the state. So one our um local program manager Tina Swanson has been
working on this site for for years and there have been many many meetings between D and Mr. ride and Cumberland Farms and all of the attorneys involved, DPS's attorneys as well. And the path that was chosen years ago is natural attenuation and and watching to see when
those um remediation levels are achieved. Right. So, we wait for the data to come in from the consultant from Cumberland Farms consultant. We review the data. We just got another set of quarterly monitoring data and Tina Swanson, our local program manager,
coordinates with D on whether or not that meets those target levels and whether or not we as you know the contracted um program can release the site with no further action. To date, we haven't been able to do that, but she
was having conversations as recently as today with D to see whether or not this site reaches those levels. But that's that's our role is kind of the go-between between DB. With all due respect, they keep coming closer and closer to the phase one. They
keep coming closer to the tenants that we have there. And this has been the issue. This has been going on seven years. This leak is coming in from 1983. And the fact is FD says that since 19 2004 that is not true is a total lie.
I've asked for documentations that they should have comparent farm should have been given to uh to us and they just they lost the records. They don't have any records except maybe two or three pages and that's in 2010. Hold on here. Jim,
Mr. Chair, I add um Mr. Wright sent me an email last month. I sat down with Tina and Amanda and Tad. Um part of the attachment Mr. right sent me is he went to representative Herodopoulos's office and the letter he actually attached to it is uh they sent it on to EPA the
federal EPA the federal EPA agreed with what D and what we do it right with the D and what the uh process we're following right now they agreed with our process I want to add that that's not in this attachments here but so other outside people have looked at what we're doing
and agree that what we're monitoring and uh providing the reports is appropriate and proper monitoring since 1983. Okay, hold on. Sir, Commissioner Delaney, is this monitoring prohibiting the further development of this site? Um, no. From what I understand there,
you can proceed with phase development right now. So, if we were to start with if we were to I guess it would be Titusville that would be permitting this, but if they were to permit for phase two, there would be nothing holding this project back. It it's my understanding that there is not.
Okay. But that's not quite true because we had to go around the contaminated area and put actually put water line all around it that went against the site plan that we had approved. M Mr. Chair, there's there's two options
that Mr. Wright has or the Cumberland Farms that could be involved in this and one of them is the the monitoring aspect that they've been following. The other is they could actively mitigate the plume and and remove it and fill it in
and that has not happened. So I mean there's there's two I just want the board to understand that there's two different resolutions. Just for my own clarification uh an old gas tank that they can fill in with sand. Um it's or
so there from the Okay. All right. Which would eventually reach if this was in California it would have been taken out within days. Okay. Can I Commissioner Delaney? Um, so who would be responsible for
taking out and filling in this land? Well, I mean on Mr. Wright's side um site it would be Mr. Wright. On Cumberland Farms, if they were doing something additional, it would be Cumberland Farm. So those options, mitigation options were discussed years and years ago. I think with Mr. Right.
Even before the purchase of the property, I wasn't involved in those conversations, but you know, we he's right. We have quite an extensive history on this site and and the agreement with I believe Mr. Wright's attorneys and with Cumberland Farms was
this monitoring path. And it's a longer path than actively mitigating the plume, but that that was the path that was chosen. That doesn't mean that you couldn't choose a different path now or at any point from when those disc discussions commenced prior to the purchase of the property.
So the the polluters, they are not liable for the damages to Mr. Wright's property. I I don't I can't really speak to who's who has liability and you know those civil matters. Um, I don't know that I
can speak to that, but we can only speak to how it could be cleaned up or how it can be monitored and you know the different paths that we can take as the delegated program or as the local program. Commissioner Delaney, this is not just about my side. There are people who live around the property too, right? I mean,
they have rights as well, not just me. I'm not asking you guys to just help me, right? But certainly bring it to their attention. I mean, the next thing I'll do is just do a do a petition with all the neighbors because I don't think they know what's going on. So, with us being the monitor um or
being in charge of the monitors, do we have any responsibility to So, our responsibility neighbors well um it it's a known contaminated site. Our responsibility is to review the data and issue a no further action
if we can. So far, we don't have the data to do that. We just we're not able to do that. We just don't have data supporting issuing that letter. I know that's what Mr. Wright would like. Thank you. Okay. I see a meeting in your future with Commissioner Delaney. Okay.
Thank you. All right. Uh also on the G section, Gerard, is it Classer? Classer. Okay. You're recognized, sir. Thank you very much, uh commissioners. Thank you for your time. I appreciate
you. Um, this morning I received a letter from you saying I just need to just read the first couple of two paragraphs. Dear business owner, Brevar County is in the process of developing an industrial pre-treatment program in accordance with
rule 62-625-500 Florida Administrative Code. The goal of this program is to help protect the environment, public safety, and the safety of our wastewater treatment employees by identifying and working with non-residential users to that discharge to the Brevard County Utility
Service System. Um, can I ask why did you send me this letter? No, I mean I understand it says it's for public safety, environment help. That's a very very very broad group. Why did
you send me this letter? Can I ask what is what is the reason? What prompted this? Okay. Um I think Eddie's going to help us out here. Hi, good evening. Um so uh going through an industrial pre-treatment program to establish one
we go through um an analysis of commercial industrial sites. If your site was one of them it's just a protocol that's nothing more. Okay. I think maybe I'm not making
myself clear. I I am I'm trying to understand why did you do this now? Is there something that prompted you to do this? So, in order So, we have not um and we've sent out two and I'm assuming we sent out one for South Central and one
for Sykes Creek. We h we don't currently have an industrial pre-treatment program. So for us to go through and establish one, which um it's a state requirement in order for us to do so now, um we have to go through the steps in
order to establish it. So you receiving that survey is one of probably about 300 that we've sent out per service area that meet the criteria of warranting them to receive one. Oh, I understand. I'm not the only
person. I I'm aware of that. Uh what I'm trying to understand is this the first step in this process. It's one of the first steps. Okay. Now can I just say that if you are going to look for
uh contaminants in the wastewater would it not be a better idea to start at the wastewater plant and see what is in the water? Excuse me chair. And then work back from there. Um, okay. Eddie, instead of instead of burdening me with
a 18 page, I make tea. Tea. I make tea. I put water down the drain. That's it. Okay. But I have to spend the whole day to do this. Yes, sir. And I'm not done yet. Yes, sir.
I'm referencing the chair if I don't mind. Okay. Eddie, go ahead. Um so uh chairman we go through there's right now five steps currently underway in establishing an industrial pre-treatment and looking at the thresholds of the treatment plant
is currently one of them. So I understand you guys are looking at what is actually in the pre-treatment plant. Is that correct? Because that's my question. My question is wouldn't it be a logical thing to start at the end and say okay I have
tine or I have 24D or DDT or whatever I have in the water I have stuff in the water I don't want there okay shouldn't we start there and say okay since we have these things let's see who can possibly give that to us I make tea
I don't even put anything solid down the lane everything that goes down my drain is smaller than one micron is it a survey. Is that what I'm understand? It it's a survey, sir. And uh Mr. Chairman, the the the the process to go through an industrial pre-treatment is
dictated by Florida statute. It's very specific on um what steps you have to go through, what time frame you have to go through, and we're we're following it and coordinating with the FD throughout. So this isn't a process where we're just
creating our own process in establishing this. Okay. We're following state statute today. And sir, I I understand from our staff that it's just a it's just a survey at this point. They're just collecting data. I understand sir it's an 18page survey sir
which includes me testing my effluent. Okay. Uh um I'll tell you what, leave your information with us. Okay. And and and I have uh we have your card and
we'll um find out if does is there less or more that he needs to do? Maybe I'm not done, sir. Because to to to test my effluent, I need to find a lab that can do it. Then I have to find a way to get into my my wastewater. And then I'm
just one single unit in a big building. But then I must find a way to get into the waste water. And then I must get somebody to come and do the testing. Then I have to wait for the results. And I And you want this back? I think on um
what is it? I think it's the 20th, 17th, 10th of September. So that's 28 days from now. No. Uh yeah, 28 days from now. Okay. Okay. I think hold on. Let me get Jim for clarification then Commissioner Delaney. I'll defer to the commissioner because
my kind of Commissioner Dwing, I was just curious. Is this something that's required for the I'm guessing business owners that are these businesses that are being asked? Yes. And it's required for them to go through this. It's part of it's part of the data
collection. Um we do a best, you know, we obviously send it out. We demonstrate to the state that we're doing this. Um but in addition there was a cover letter that came with it and we encourage and we've been getting a lot of questions good questions where we
have staff walking them through it. We even try to walk them help them through with regard to the um to the um and I forgot how many pages are in the survey. We have we have to get that survey um
approved by the FD before it gets released. So whatever the number of pages are is what the D is saying is necessary. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I mean, the commissioner and Eddie both stole my speech there.
Um, so we got Mr. Clawson's com information, so we'll get somebody to the department to give you a call to help you work through the survey and on whether or not you need to fill out the whole amount. So we'll have somebody personal service, we'll have somebody help you with that. Okay, sir.
Sir, I'm sorry. That's the be that's best we're going to be able to do tonight. They're going to contact you. Do I did I waste my whole day? I'm going to get more time wasted by talking to somebody from the county on top of that. And I'm not and I and I say wasted in the sense that I'm a small business. I
literally do everything. If I do this, I cannot do my work. And sir, they're they're going to do their very best to to help to help you with that, but it sounds like we need to do this survey. Did this survey go out to every business in
Eddie? Is it or did you decide some business and some not? We we went through and looked at business tax receipts in order to establish which businesses would meet that criteria.
Again, we share this information with the D. They go through their analysis and then they approve us on the list that we send out. I'm assuming that the more extensive the list, the less likely you're going to miss somebody. Correct.
I make tea, sir. Okay, sir. Sir, that's all I make. I make nothing else. All right. We um Let's make sure we have your contact info. Okay. And they'll that. Thank you. Okay. Um, commissioners, that was the
last of the G section cards. We are going to go on to H1. See Mark coming. Mark, you recognized on H1. All right. Uh, good evening again, commissioners. Uh, H1's a petition to vacate a portion of a public utility and
drainage easement uh, in Shady Villas. Uh this is in district one. The petitioner is requesting the vacating of portion uh of the public utility and draining easement to allow an existing garage to remain. Uh we've received no objections.
Um okay. Are there questions from Mark? I have one card I think from the property owner just for questions though. No questions. Okay. Uh is there a motion on the item? Move to approve. Okay. I have a motion by Commissioner Delaney. Is there a second? Second. I have a second by Commissioner
Atinson. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney, yes. Vice Chair Goodson, yes. Commissioner Atinson, yes. Commissioner Alman, yes. Chairman Felner, yes. We'll show that passes. 5-0. Thank you. Uh Mark on H2. H2 is another petition to vacate a
portion of a public utility and drainage easement. This one is in Brandy Wine North. Uh, also in district one, the petitioner is requesting uh to vacate a portion of the public utility and drainage easement to allow for the screen pool to remain. Uh, again, no
issues uh and no objections. Any questions for staff? Okay. Uh, any discussion? No. Is there a motion? Like to make a motion to approve. We have a motion by Commissioner Delaney. I think Commissioner Alman second. Clerk
will call the role. Commissioner Delaney, yes. Vice Chair Goodson, yes. Commissioner Atinson, yes. Commissioner Alman, yes. Chairman Felner, yes. And we'll show that passes 5 Z. We're going to move on to H3. Tom, you recognize, sir?
It's on. There we go. Sorry. Uh, good evening. Um H3 we are requesting that the board adopt or uh amendments to the Bvard County Code of Ordinances Chapter 94 which is a solid waste ordinance. In July of 2024
um the board adopted some amendments to the ordinance and in doing so we inadvertently had omitted certain portions of certain sections. Tonight's proposed amendments are to replace those omitted portions.
Okay. Uh questions for Tom. Any questions for Tom? I got one card. Uh uh Rick Hefinger. You're recognized, sir. Rick Hefinger, 2000 Juniper Drive. Um, I'm probably a little late for this,
but I just recently had some conversations with waste manage. Garbage kind of my thing, but I don't know if anybody, but um, my cans that I use for yard debris, I use garbage cans and they're they're pretty beat up. I just learned that the garbage guys, waste
management, can pick those up with a machine if it's one of those bar type carts. The problem is the cart that they say they'll approve is only 40 gallons. And I had some conversations about, well, could I get the bigger one? And it was kind of like, well, waste management's headache. It says 40. I'd
like to see that getting in increased in size because a 40-gallon I'm not going to buy three of them. There's a there's an economy of scale when you buy the bigger one. And it's, you know, it's leaves and it's, you know, branches. It's not heavy stuff. And I don't think my guys I talked to the garbage guys. I said, "I had no idea you had a hook on
the back. You could pick that up." I said, "Because I got to replace these. The bottoms are falling out." So, if you guys I don't know if it's too late to do a revision or you'd probably have to talk to waste management to negotiate that into the contract, but I don't think anybody sees a problem because I think there was kind of a verbal, but I'm not going to buy big cans and then
somebody tell me, "Hey, they're too big for the contract because that's what people do, right?" But I would like to see that get increased in size at least to the size of the the cans that you use for the for the garbage and for the recyclables because, you know, for 100 bucks you can get a good size one and then for 90 bucks you can get the 40
one. So you can double the size for pennies on the dollar kind of thing. So I don't know if it's too late, but that's just my recommendation. Thank you. Can uh any talk of containerizing uh yard waste um anytime soon?
Um I have a meeting with waste management on Monday and we can bring that into the discussion. Okay. I I know that's something that they'd probably like to do. And and in terms of um Mr. Mr. Heffleer and his his uh with the 40 gallons that's also part of our ordinance. We
couldn't change it in in a quick amendment tonight, but we can look into into doing that as well. Okay, let's we can see to make that happen. Okay. Thank you. All right. Very good. Um Okay. That was the only card that I had
on that one discussion on the item. I would just for um for the future I would be interested in in having that come back to us. So I appreciate that. Thank you. Can I get a giant recycling?
There's got to be an upper limit. Okay. All right. Motion to approve. All right. Uh Okay. Very good. I have a motion to approve by Commissioner Atinson. I have a second by Commissioner Delaney. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Atinson,
yes. Commissioner Alman, Felner, yes. We'll show that passes 5. Thanks and thanks for the input. Um, all right, Commissioners. On H4,
on H4, we are requesting that the board adopt three rate resolutions. Uh the first is the annual solid waste disposal special assessment rate resolution that reflects a 4.16% increase um according to the consumer
price index for garbage and trash. Um adopting the solid waste collection recycling and special assessment rate resolution that reflects a 3% increase which is both according to the contract and and board approved. and the special rates and gate charges
resolution that's being modified to reflect the definitions to match ordinance 94 and it also has a 4.16% increase according to the CPI garbage and trash. We are also requesting the board ratify, confirm and certify the annual disposal, collection and
recycling special assessment roles to the Bvard County Tax Collector. Okay, let's do questions first. Commissioners, questions. I have questions for our staff. Um I don't have any cards on this one. Um in discussion
now, let me say this. We need four motions. Okay. Um you could actually do it in one motion. Just uh have the board approve all four at once. Okay. I had uh I had a note yesterday that Sir
Okay. Okay. Well, are we good with that? We're gonna We'll have Okay. So, is there a motion for H4? Motion to approve. Okay. I have a motion by Commissioner Goodson. I have a second by Commissioner Atinson. Clerk will call the role.
Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Atinson? Yes. Commissioner Alman? Yes. Chairman Felner? Yes. We'll show that passes. 5-0. Thank you. Commissioners, we will go to H5.
Mark, good evening again, commissioners. Uh, H5 is a uh seeking approval for an ordinance uh for the board to amend chapter 62 uh article 7 division 2 section 62-2844
entitled performance security. Uh this was uh brought to the board for legislative intent back in April. uh it went to the BCAC where it received unanimous approval and then the LPA where it received 11 to1 vote. This is
to allow the county manager or designate to uh release performance bonds. Um the county staff already accepts the work. Uh this is uh seen as a an improvement or an efficiency measure. Questions for Mark? Any qu? Okay, I
don't have any cards on this one. Is there any discussion on the item? Is there a motion on the item on H5? Move to approve. Have a motion by Commissioner Delaney. Is there a second? Second. I have a second by Commissioner Atinson. Clerk will call the role.
Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Atinson? Yes. Commissioner Alman? Yes. Chairman Felner? Yes. We'll show that passes 5-0. Okay. Commissioners, we're going to skip over I1. I think we'll have most discussion on
that one. So, we will we will come back and we'll go to J1 and Peter. Sir, good evening, commissioners. Um, we have uh from the TDC recommendations for the marketing support program, we have uh 18 cultural and 24 sports grants for a
total amount of $572,665. Happy to answer any questions. Questions for Peter? I can try to help if we have questions. Okay. I don't have any cards on this one. Is there a discussion on the item? Is there a motion or
a discussion? Okay. So, um my issue with this one is it says each district office must grant up to two organizations. So, I still
don't like this. I I think that um we have a group of people whose job it is to make the decision where this money goes and um as last time I would like the opportunity to give it back to them to let them do what they need to do with it. I don't like the idea of giving
money to organizations that didn't meet the criteria. So, the word must for me, um, if we could change it to may or not obligate me to doing that money out. Okay. Uh, Commissioner, I'm amendable to
that. Thank you. Um, if if uh I'll accept that as a friendly amendment. Um, the are the rest of us good with that change potentially in the motion? Okay. Um, and was there another concern that you had? No, that's it. Okay. Uh,
is there a motion with the friendly amendment of changing the must to a May? Move to approve. Okay. I have a motion by Commissioner Delaney. Is there a second? Second. I have a second by Commissioner Atinson. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson?
Yes. Commissioner Atinson? Yes. Commissioner Altman? Yes. Chairman Felner? Yes. And we'll show that one passes 5. Thank you, commissioners. Uh J2, Mr. Chair, I'm sorry. Just that one last item about uh when when would we come
back for for that? Good point. He was supposed to remind me of that. It's my my fault. Uh by October 14th meeting. Okay. So, by the October 14th meeting, we would like your se selections. Right, Peter? Very good. Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Thank you.
That's just a housekeeping issue. Okay. Morris on J2. All right. Commissioners, the value adjustment board is kicking off its um annual cycle of meetings with an organizational meeting on Friday. Uh they have asked that this board elect
two members of the board to the value adjustment board and elect one of those members to serve as chairperson. Currently, commissioners Atkinson and Altman serve on the value adjustment board with Commissioner Altman serving as the chair. Okay. So, organizational meeting is on
Friday. Is that correct, Nicole? Friday. Does that sound right? That's correct. Okay. Okay. Um and we're we're taking this up now because we need to sort of get the calendar on sync with um the VAB um versus the change in the board, etc.
So, commissioners, um I'm willing to serve again in the same capacity. Okay. Uh I think I think that would probably be easy for the VAB. I am also willing to serve, but I would like to make a motion that Commissioner Alman
take the chairman seat. Okay. I think he said he'd be willing to serve in the same capacity. Okay. So So let's do this. Commissioner Atkins or uh Commissioner Alman for chair of the value adjustment board. Is there a motion on on that? Move to approve.
I have a motion by Commissioner Delaney. Is there a second? I have a second by Commissioner Atinson. Clerk will call the role on that one. Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Atinson, yes. Commissioner Alman, yes. Chairman Felner, yes. Congratulations, Mr. Chairman.
Hope it's everything you dreamed. Uh, yeah. I think about you on Friday. Okay. We'll send you We'll send you some some donuts or something. Okay. Uh, on Commissioner Atinson, we have a we have a motion. Move to approve. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner
Delaney. Second. I'll second that one. That's okay. Just keep it moving along. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney, yes. Vice Chair Goodson, yes. Commissioner Atinson, yes. Commissioner Alman, yes. Chairman Felner, yes.
We'll show that one passes 5-0. Thank you very much. And uh we will go to J3. I think this is EC12. I'm sorry. Um Commissioner Atinson, actually, this is your item. Um yeah, you're welcome to explain.
So the historical um commission is a commission that uh it's countywide and currently we have um all of us can appoint three people from our district which is pretty important to me to do
but I have advertised um on the county Facebook press releases, newsletters, websites, and I'm not getting anybody. But I did have a gentleman come to me who was um he's a published author. His name's uh Dan Ryder and he has an expertise in surf history which is all
of our kind of bag. Anyhow, so I I had my staff and they went to looking and they found that previously in 1996 the board actually approved um the change so that we could appoint outside of our district, but it never got signed by the
chairman. So, I just wanted to bring it back so that we could appoint from all of Bard County. That's okay. If Morris has anything to clarify, please think back to the night. No, all of all of that's exactly correct. I'm sorry. I think he was asking who the chair was then and I
don't recall. I'm trying to remember myself. I'm sure they're on the wall over there uh looking at us. Okay. Um I think this makes sense. It's it's certainly a lot easier when you have um at large versus um in the district. So, I don't have any
cards on this one. Any other questions or comments? Okay. Uh is there a motion on the Could could Morris actually say state the motion in a sensible way for me? Okay. All right. All right. So for this, it's just that the uh the the motion
would be that the board of county commissioners approve legislative intent and direct the staff to prepare an ordinance implementing that intent and grant permission to schedule an advertise the ordinance for public hearing with the proposed ordinance amending the historical commission's membership requirements to provide for
appointment of members at large rather than by district residency. That was said much better. Second. All right. Okay. We we have that right. And I I think we have a motion by Commissioner Atinson. We have a second by Commissioner Delaney. Clerk will call the RO. Commissioner Delaney?
Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes. Commissioner Atinson? Yes. Commissioner Alman? Yes. Chairman Felner? Yes. We'll show that one passes. 5-0. Thank you, commissioners. Okay. Does anybody want a quick break? I do.
Okay. Let's uh Okay. Let's take five minutes. Okay. And then we'll be on I1. Wow. Wow. Wow. You are All right, we're on I one and
Commissioner Goodson, this is your item, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Chair. Let me give him a chance to settle down there. A brief statement. Uh, first I want you to understand that uh I'm not
a fall guy. I saw that today. But that's interesting. Uh, what the gentleman that did the podcast or whatever, please next time refer to the eight years I spent at Port Canaveral that you must have missed with your investigation. I would like to stick with the leader
that we know instead of taking our chances with someone else. The department heads are supporting Jim Lingfeld, the county attorney, and other elected officials. I believe the board as well was supporting. So there, chairman, I'd like to make a mo a motion
that we appoint Jim to be the county manager, and I would like to include the motion that we appoint Chairman Felner and the county attorney to work out the details and bring it back to the board. That is my motion. Okay, hold on. We're we're questions. Questions?
Okay, we have cards. I have a question. Okay. Yes, sir. We had a point of order. Would that receive precedent? I'm going to go through the normal process. Is that Is that what your point of order? Yes. Was okay. We're We're going to go
through the process like we normally do. Thank you. I I wasn't ignoring you. Just going to go through the process. Okay. We don't have questions. All right. We'll go to the carts. Wendy Ellis. Good evening. My name is Wendy Ellis and
I reside at 41 Riverside Drive in Cooko, Florida. I had the opportunity to work professionally with Jim Leenfeld for over two decades when he was a director of Space Coast Area Transit and our firm provided marketing support services. I
was excited to uh read about a motion Commissioner Goodson was making tonight and wanted to share my support for removing the word acting from Mr. Leenfelt's title. Um there are many observations that I could share from the 20 plus years I work with Mr. Mr. Leenfeld. But at the heart of it all uh
is his honesty. Through his honesty, he builds trust. I watched as Mr. Leenfelt uh earned the trust of his team, his peers, and his superiors. Trust is a foundation of strong working relationships and effective teamwork. Without it,
collaboration breaks down and morale suffers. He encourages open communication. When managers are honest, it sets a tone for transparency. everyone feels safer sharing ideas, giving feedback and reporting issues leading to better problem solving and
innovation. He promotes accountability. Honesty holds stakeholders, managers, and employees accountable. When leaders give clear feedback, it creates a culture where taking responsibility is the norm, not the exception. He supports
ethical decision-making. Honest managers make ethical choices and avoid deceitful practices that could damage an organization's reputation. He improves morale and engagement. Employees and community members become more engaged and motivated when they
know their leaders are honest, straightforward, and fair. It builds confidence in leadership and reduces cynicism. His management style led to better decision-making. With honesty, information flows more freely. management and elected officials can
make better decisions when they have accurate, unfiltered data. He enhanced the organizational culture. His honest management style contributed to a culture of integrity. This not only attracted talent and retained employees,
but filtered outward to stakeholders who also value fairness and transparency. In summary, honesty and management isn't just a moral choice. It's a strategic advantage that fosters trust, accountability, and long-term success
for an organization. Trust, open communication, accountability, ethical decision-making, improved morale and engagement, better decision-making, and enhancing the organizational culture. In hiring Mr.
Leenfeld as county manager, I am confident that Bvard County would be the benefactor of the greatest strategic advantage of all, the many benefits of Mr. Leenfeld's honesty. Thank you very much for allowing me to speak. Thank you,
Sarah Hodge. Um, I' just like to say, Mr. Lizenfeld, you sound like you're a wonderful person and we if if I my husband and I would like to see the process completed.
If you're on that list and you're top, we will be very thankful. But we would like to there's a lot of people that are concerned that it's not being completed and spent a lot of money for this
selection and you haven't finished it. And it would just be more assuring to everyone out there if you do complete the finished study. and we will welcome
you with all open arms. I mean, I don't really know you personally, but you seem wonderful and I've heard wonderful things about you. But please finish this process and then everyone will be happy.
Thank you. Thank you, Marcus Herman. Good evening. My name is Marcus Herman. I live at 315 Water Oak Drive and I am also currently the Merit Island Redevelopment Agency
chairman. Just a couple of quick notes. First, I would like to thank Mr. Comm uh Mr. Goodson for recognizing the value that Jim brings to this county and setting forth this vote for the the board to consider today. I am very much in favor of removing the
interim status in front of Jim's name and making him the designated county manager for Bvard County. In my dealings with Jim while on the Myra board, he has proven to be very competent and and a very effective uh
manager in all the different positions he held through the years. I can also say that as a business owner, I see great value from hiring within. By doing so, you plant the seed in the minds of other employees that here in
Bvard County, you you too can excel to the top of your field, which in turn can be very good for morale and the overall fulfillment of one's uh current job. Additionally, I think that by hiring
Jim, he can hit the ground running. He has a tremendous array of institutional knowledge about our specific county and the unique issues it confronts. This is a huge asset that no other candidate outside of the county will
ever have. Finally, because we already have a competent leader in this position and the county continues to struggle with funding, this will be a great way to save taxpayers money by not spending the money trying to find someone else. Now,
with all that being said, I do believe it's reasonable to question Jim's sanity to consider the job, but please do. Thank you, board.
Thank you, sir. Uh Rick Heelfinger. Rick Hefinger, 2000 Juniper Drive, District 1. Um I'm a little confused because I thought we had a vote and we're going to spend 35,000 bucks and we got this outfit that was going to do a search and everybody voted for that,
right? Yeah, we voted for that. I think we already owe them that 35,000 because they've got 53 candidates. Did I hear that correctly? Can anybody confirm the number of candidates they've got lined up? 60. 60. So, there's 60 people. I don't know why Tom didn't say something earlier. I
don't know why we're talking about this now. And I don't know what Jim if he wants the job. So, I don't know where this coming from, but there's a process. It's it's got 60. If you want to avoid spending more money, tell the agency cease and desist. We're gonna evaluate
to 60. If Jim wants it, let Jim put his name in. I'd like to see resumes and have a selection and then we're gonna and like I said, it was said earlier, if he's the number one guy, he's going to be the number one guy. I don't understand also the request to say, "Hey, you know, we're going to pick Jim and he's going to go sit down with
Richard Morrison Morris Richardson and they're going to talk about the salary." But wait a minute, did the contractor, the guys you've got doing the selection, aren't they going to negotiate salary? Isn't that what they do? They know what the industry is. They don't do that. Okay. So, you you know you're going to cut a So, whoever it is is going to cut
a deal with you. Is that correct, Mr. Morrison? Mr. Richardson, that that'll be the negotiation. I understand that. Now, who's on the selection committee once you pick that? Who picks that candidate? If we did what I said, we got 60. We We rock and chalk. We We rank them and we file them. We do
all that, right? And then we pick them. Who's on that committee that does that rank and file? Everybody. So, everybody's on that. We're sure that's true. Are there anybody outside of this commission that rank and stack?
Everybody's on it. Okay. So, everybody gets the rank and stack and then we we go forth, right? Sounds good. I' I'd like to see the you know the the guys that did the selection. Well, they provide you all that. You got to read it over real good and do the ranking. But but why would you? Because that'll stop
them from bringing in other candidates spending additional money. I have no idea how much they spent on these 60 to fly people out here because the pdeium and the hotels. So, it's bigger than 35. You didn't say how big it was. I don't know how big it could get, but that
sounds like they're trying to get a little extra money cuz we want to get some more candidate then. And that's just the way business is. But you can shut them off right now and say, "Hey, we want Jim in there." As long as Jim wants to be in there. I haven't heard from Jim. I I don't know why we decided we're going to short sheet this. We could have done that earlier. And you
know, if Jim gets it, since you didn't raise his hand earlier, I think you ought to pay the $35,000 because we went through a selection process. And if he wanted it, it should have been said, you guys should have said, "We want that and do it." So, I don't understand why you're backtracking. But I think that's the right thing to do. So, again, I
don't know him. You know, I he worked with Frank. You know, he's got a history here. That's great. But, uh, you know, you've got 60 people to look at. Thank you. Thank you, Kevin Jeffrey. It was Thomas Payne who said this. No
country can be called free which is governed by absolute power. And it matters not whether it's absolute royal power or absolute legislative power. The consequences for this the people are the same. As county
commissioners, you are engaging in representative government. You are not the government. The people are the government. The American Constitution bestows all of the power on the people. You're supposed
to be representing them. As representatives for the people, you're committed to having an open search to replace the county commissioner or the county manager. You have spent $36,000
on a search firm with 60 applicants and still have an open window to receive more. If you freeze this process and appoint the interim manager, this will be an affront to the people of Bvard County.
They deserve better and you're going to be circumventing the process. There appears to be no valid reason for doing this. It actually has all the earmarks of cronyism. Maintaining the public trust is
important. A vote to suspend your process will do serious damage to the public trust. When I was a boy, I went to the store and on the um over the counter there was
this sign. Since manto man is so unjust, we know not men we ought to trust. We've trusted many to our sorrow. Pay cash today. We'll trust tomorrow. I want to really reverse that a little bit and
say since politician to politician is so unjust. We know not politician we ought to trust. We've trusted many to our sorrow. Let's continue the process. We'll trust tomorrow. Question. Chair. Got one more card.
Okay, go ahead. Okay, Sheriff Ivy. Actually, I have our clerk of course going to join us. So, there'll be three of us. That gives us nine minutes, right? I was kidding. I'm just kidding. Hey, Richard. So, was that a is that a buffet joke? So,
uh, we, uh, we we stand before you. First of all, thank you for taking up this matter. Um, thank you for hearing from us. Um, we, uh, we have all collectively had an opportunity to, to work with Jim, not just, uh, in this last budget process, but over the past 12 years that I've had the the blessing
of serving as sheriff. Um he has uh always uh been open door to us, always understanding of this community, the challenges it faces, the needs that it has. And uh when when you have somebody at the helm that has demonstrated uh you
know the old saying, past performance predicts performance. And Jim's performance has uh has been stellar for this community. He is um he is dedicated. He loves this place. Um I agree with Marcus. I I think we probably ought to have some type of psychological
exam done on him um to uh understand why he would be willing to do this. But I think uh if we don't select him in this capacity, then we all ought to have our heads examined. Um I think he is right there ready to do the job and he knows the challenges and uh I'm I'm proud to
stand with him. So Rachel, you know, I've heard the people and what they're saying about looking up for outside, but it says something about our community when we look at inside and we grow our own leaders and when the leaders and the people that work for Jim
and have worked for Jim for many years and he's dedicated his time and his service to this community to then reach the point of being a county manager. I think that is something that is said about how we promote within our community and for the people of Bvard
that gives them hope to have jobs here that are secure and bring them to a level that they have hoped to achieve. So I hope that people can think about it that way. Jim and I have worked together and we get along and we do well and we
might not always agree and that's okay. That's that's friendly competition or friendly disagreement. But I do hope this board votes for Jim to be the county manager. I think he will represent all of his team well in this community and I think he will work with
all of the constitutional officers very well and I think he will bring a great breath of fresh air to what we needed today. Chief Waller, my parents taught me a long time ago, never miss an opportunity to brag about
good people. And I can honestly say this, the sheriff trusts me to work with the uh county commission. I've worked with some incredible commissions to give me the opportunity to work with the county staff. I've worked with some outstanding staffs and I've also been given the opportunity to work with some
incredible county managers. Uh I view Jim Already as the county manager. I apologize for taking the vote ahead of you. I work with him on a daily basis. The man treats his people good. He treats his constituents fantastic. I
trust him. Um, he trusts me when we have conversations. We don't always agree. Even good sheriffs don't always agree with me, but the opportunity is always given to say what I need to say. I trust this man. He has put himself in a position of value, and I trust that
value. So, thank you very much for giving us the opportunity to speak on behalf of Jim tonight. Thank you. And under sheriff, I've had the privilege of knowing your parents and so I have no doubt that they did say that. All right, sir. Thank Thank you
everyone. Okay. Uh I think it appropriate we hear from Jim at this at this point. Sir. All right. Um, let me forgive me as I stumble a little bit, but I'm not good talking about myself, so I actually took notes. Um, a
couple things. Um, uh, you know, I was asked, you know, why wasn't I interested before. I'll be straight out and honest. Couple health issues. I'll be out open to everybody. I do suffer from migraines. I thought they would be an issue. I haven't had a migraine in several months, so I mean, so that makes
me happier. Um, so I'm I'm feeling good about that. Um, working, you know, we uh TAD is new or new enough at least in the position. Brought Jill up. Um, I love working with both of them. We work way better than I could ever hope. I mean, we're work we're in and out of each uh
each other's offices all day long. So, that went way better than I thought. We have wonderful set of department uh heads. We have great staff people on here. Um, and in the two months, um, didn't think we'd get the contract, the firefighters contract in front of you guys as quick as we did. That all came
together. So, that was a good working group and along with the firefighters. Um, we did the budget. I I can't I'm proud of the budget. We balanced it. We worked pretty hard. We met with all you individually even after the workshops. Uh, I wish it wasn't everything that we presented to you guys, but we got the
budget done. So, you know, in those couple months discover that we can we can get the job done that we'll do a good job for the uh for the county. Um, and if you if you indulge me a minute, I can at least because a couple people ask I you're smiling. Uh, just for the folks and I'll go very very fast because I can
talk fast. Um, I came I was a summer intern. So, I came here as an intern in 1990, graduated from Indiana University. No hooers. I graduated from Indiana University with a degree in public affairs which is one of the top public administration programs in the country.
Came back in 1991 work at the transit services department. They couldn't figure out how to get rid of me and I became transit director in 1997. And I hope somebody's listening I will say at the age of 29. So the youngest director we think somebody thought he was youngest at 30 but I beat him. Um under
our leadership our writership on a fixed route went from uh 250,000 passenger trips a year to 2.2 two million passenger trips a year. That wouldn't have happened without the crew. That's just not leadership. That's a bunch of good hard hardworking people we have. Um we we implemented beach trolley,
Saturday service, expanded our volunteers emotion program. Did a whole bunch of that um stuff. Uh we won national and state marketing awards. Two numerous to count. Um our most prestigious award was we are named the best small transit system in the nation. 2003 we've had three employees um that I
worked with in the transit department become department directors. Um, we work very hard to promote within and support the county. Uh, but most importantly, and I think I have the number right, we've had six different bus drivers be named state bus driver of the year in the state of Florida. Work hard to promote folks. Assistant county manager.
The one of the biggest projects we did is we got the golf courses off the tax roles. Um, Savannah's went back to the community. Golf BVAR manages the other two. I'd put their contractors up against anybody. Um, but we're no longer subsidizing the golf courses. Uh in the last few years I've had to staff the
redistricting committee as staff of staff I guess is the right word. That was chaired by speaker Chris Foley. We staffed the charter review committee which is was chaired by now Congressman Heridopoulos. We focus a lot on infrastructure, library, parks, transit. Some just I'm sorry commissioner I'm
almost done here. Um in 30 years I counted last night I've worked with 30 commissioners. If you want to count and I saw Commissioner Vzoltz here early if you want to count Commissioner votes and Commissioner at Altman it's 32 because they've been here twice. Um many excellent bosses along you know you pick up mentors and you don't know their
mentors but I I got them here. My bosses have been great. Perry Maul, Jim Brown, Don Lust, Stockton Whitten and Frank uh people that inspire you to do better. Sharon Luba, Karen Kathy Swinesberg, Kathy Wall, Wendy Ellis, Kathy Lively, Maryanne Donner. I didn't know Wendy was
coming but she was on the list. I mean, those are some of those, but um I won't forget, but we as staff, we work together as a and as a leader, I've always looked at it. It's my responsibility to provide the resources our staff needs to do, then step aside, get out of their way, and let them get their job done. And that's that's how I
work. Okay. Um discussion discussion on the item. Yes, Commissioner Delaney. Thank you. Um, I want to start this off by saying this
is not personal to um, Jim at all. He's done a great job as interim. Um, I just really feel that we made a decision together as a board to go and do a search, do our due diligence, and make
sure that we have the best candidate. And I just don't believe that we should deny him nor the public the opportunity to prove that he's the best candidate.
Um it really just feels like we're we're giving something away. And this is probably the most important decision we're going to make as a board together. And I want to be able to look at myself in the mirror and say, I knew without a shadow of a doubt we made the best
decision for our county moving forward. And I can't do that right now because we haven't had the opportunity to play out the process. I'm not saying that good work hasn't been done with the budget and with the with the firefighter um contract.
um a lot of people were um involved in that and um you know we have to have a balanced budget every year not saying that that's not hard work.
I'm not saying that there aren't challenges that come along with that. But we have a lot of we have a lot of serious needs and um I I we have 60 applicants who have put in
the work to put together an application and put their neck on the line. Some of them are probably even currently employed and are putting their um employment at risk just applying for this job. When I spoke to the consultant today, um
we have 10 strong candidates and we have solid representation from Florida. Um there are some that are outside from what I was told. I don't know the specifics, but I was told that we have we have a solid group of candidates, and
I would be happy to see Jim's name among those candidates. Um, I feel like we're doing a disservice to him and to the public by not following through with this per uh process. Um,
I'm I'm asking for the board to um discuss this a little bit because I haven't heard any explanation really any thoughts um other than what was put in the agenda and um Commissioner Felner,
you had mentioned on uh Thursday last week that we would have robust discussion around this. So, I I would really appreciate that. I I think I said that we would take the time we need um in response um to you bringing that up during planning and
zoning. In discussion, Commissioner Alman in discussion, sir. Okay. So, I can appreciate what everybody's saying on both sides of the issues. I'd like to explain why I think we should uh
make Jim a our county administrator uh and why we did the u the search. I don't think that was wasted money or wasted time to do a search. We needed to s have a search for a new administrator as soon as possible because um it's a very
important position and it needs to be filled. What we didn't know when we made that decision to have a search was uh how Jim would react to this role as being interim administrator.
And um I think he's done an exemplary job. And so yes, we have a search and we have 60 candidates. We still have to negotiate with Jim and if if that doesn't work out, we have an a backup. But I think it it was not money wasted.
It was a process we needed to go through and this is a process that we need to go through and I think we need to appoint him. Um, you know, it's um it's not a a great county administrator that makes the county great
uh or any government. It's a team and it's how they work together as a team. And when Jim took this job, from the very first day that he took it, I noticed something very special with this Bvard County, we have a remarkably
talented team. And I saw that the way they responded to Jim, I saw the way that they worked. I saw the way that they responded to a change to a new administrator. And I've experienced that twice in my political career. And I
realize that, wow, we have something very, very special with this county. I think we have something very special amongst this commission. We don't always agree, but um this has probably been one of the most trying times that this county has ever faced. What we faced
with the firefighter was a very, very difficult time. What we're facing with revenue shortfalls, a very difficult time. And this commission has really risen to the occasion. And um and I think Jim's relationship with the commission as well, not only with his
staff has has proven to be something exemplary. There are probably some really talented people on those that list of 60 candidates that we could consider. But one thing we don't know and we could
never know is how they would that person he or she would fit within our team, our system. How would they respond to a management team, administrative team that we have that I think is performing at a very top level? Don't know that.
I'm not willing to take that risk to lose to lose a known commodity to to go with an unknown. So, I'm I fully support uh our our interim administrator and I I hope we can work
out an agreement. And I I can tell you I see his commitment to Buffard County and to this organization. And so I wholeheartly will support uh this u this appointment. But again, I don't think we've wasted time. I think
we we're in the midst of a process that we needed to go through and uh this is a part of that process and it's and uh we need to put this issue to rest. We need to make a decision. We got a lot of work to do. And golly, I I was trying to
think of analogy, maybe a sports analogy. You know, your starting quarterback gets hurt or retires and you put your back up and my gosh, he he starts performing to this amazing amazing level and the team rallies around them and you're winning. You're
not going to put that guy on the bench or trade them and bring an unknown. You're going to go with your your guy. and he did receive a big endorsement that we do know as well with our prior administrator who appointed him in the number two position as well and I
affected that in but we got a we got a a winning team and I want to keep it that way. Thank you sir Commissioner Atinson. So, we've heard um from not enough staff
and I would like we had an email from a previous uh staff, a Steven Darling who was a previous director with Bvard County and I wanted to read just a few excerpts from the email that I received from him. Uh he says that he's worked with Mr. Leenfeld for several years and
found him to be an exceptional leader. He says that his ability to listen and process all available information prior to making decisions is second to none. He said that he would often seek his counsel to get another perspective
because he knew going to him he would get informed and unbiased opinions. He says I am confident that there is no better candidate qualified to be placed into this position. He says I know that Mr. Leenfeld is an exceptional candidate who understands
the needs and priorities of Bvard County better than anyone else and myself and my family support the commission confirming him as our next county commissioner. So, that's from somebody who used to work with you. And I will say from my own perspective, I was
nervous um being a new commissioner having uh a new county manager, but it's been seamless the transition. Um, when I talked to you in several
conversations, your ability to to notice your staff's ability and aptitude is is just amazing because you're aware of their their capabilities and their strengths. And like you said a minute ago, it's it's to to pull that out and get out of the way
and let them do their job. And that's something that a new county manager would have to take quite a bit of time to understand and recognize the value that we have in all the rest of our staff. Um, I could go on and on, but I'm not going to. I'm just going to say that I would definitely support you as our
next county manager. Question. You have a question? No, I have a comment I'd like to make. Um, I'd like to ask Jim a question. All right. Go ahead with your question. Could you explain to us the way I read the contract with the uh the people that
were doing the search at any time we could say stop and they had a that would be a stopping it's not going to spend 35 or 30,000 we can stop them at any point because they had it set up in increments. Is that correct? There's a I'm sorry Morris. There's a
termination clause 14 days. 14 days they finished like two parts of their contract. So we we wouldn't owe them the entire amount. Okay. And two parts of their contract was what? 16,000 4,000 and 16,000. I remember that. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm looking at Melissa
nodding to make sure I'm speaking right. Thank you, sir. I appreciate the historical perspective of all of the county staff. Um, you know, I have the I have the great privilege of um being the the
commissioner in this complex. Um maybe some of the staff thinks that's a curse. I don't know because uh uh I show up in their office a lot and um they're everyone here has been incredibly gracious to me and u you know
I of I think I'm a smart guy and I I come in and uh when it was Frank you know I would tell him my great idea and he say oh well you know commissioner they they tried that 20 years ago and the board at that time decided this that
and the other and it was a good process because I would go home and I would think about that and I come back today with something better and uh so I I really do um value that and and I and I have that with with Jim 34 years
uh here in here in the the county not including your internship right and I think that that says a lot that uh you're willing to to undertake this so you'll you'll move forward um with my support. I think if and if the board
votes for Jim tonight, tomorrow morning, we'll just be another day at work in BVAR County. Commissioner, anyone else in discussion? Commissioner Delaney, thank you. I I appreciate all your um
thoughts and and sharing that. Um, I've had many people reach out to me um with concerns, people with concerns about hiring somebody um that has been with the county for so long. There are a lot of people out there suffering and um
they're worried that it's just going to continue. They were there there was people that um were very hopeful when we talked about and voted on um you know going out for a national search, finding some somebody you know that that could
bring a new perspective that could bring fresh ideas. Um and I'm not saying that Jim can't do that as well. Um, we, you know, I I have had some great experiences,
um, and I've had some not so great experiences and, um, in my time here, you know, uh, I feel like there is a little bit of I've been here for so
long and I know I know what's going on without so much follow through of you know let's get to the nitty-gritty here. Let's is is this something worth um you know saying no to a commissioner like is it
is it a big enough deal? Um and there are things like for instance I'll give an example. I had a constituent come to my office and they were talking to me about one of the issues that they were having and they said to me, "Well, how many people work in that department anyway?" And I said
to them, "I'm not sure. Let's check it out." I went to go to our organizational chart and it didn't have FTEEs on it. And so then I found out that you have to go through our budget book, which is hundreds of pages, um, read through the
narrative and figure out, you know, how many people are working in the department. So I called up um the county manager and I said, you know, hey, there are some other counties that do that put the FTEES on the organizational chart. I thought that
would be a really cool thing to do. um you know it would give people a one-stop shop of something you know to find a quick answer to that question and I was told no and I was told because I like it the way it is and that I would have to
get board approval to put an FTE on an organizational chart. And to me that I know it seems like a small thing, but for me I I'm saying, well, what if it was a big thing? We're supposed to be here to serve the
public, to make it, you know, um, easier for them to so that people could just click on our organizational chart and boom, find their answers. You know, we already have a pretty good one that has, you know, the phone numbers and and all that, but this could have just given it a little extra
something. And it's something that would have not mattered to pretty much anyone. And I feel like we are shorting ourselves if we're not going to give ourselves the
opportunity to um see if there's anybody out there who would like to come to the Space Coast and make this place their home. and that they have fresh ideas, something new perspectives, new horizons to where they
could help us, you know, work our way out of this situation we've gotten ourselves in. Um, you know, after decades and decades of, um, doing whatever we've been doing. So,
um, like I said, it's it's not that I don't think that we should have Jim put in an application and, you know, come out and show us, show us that you're you're up for this, you want to
do it, and that, you know, because there were multiple times where I was told, I don't want to do this. And only after you know elected officials came and asked and this is a decision that the five of us
is supposed to make. We told our constituents that this was a decision that the five of us were going to make and we agreed upon a pathway forward. And if this is the way that this is going to go tonight, I would really and I would have loved for this to happen
behind closed doors in a in an interview process. Um, but I'm going to need to ask some questions to, you know, so that I can say to my constituents that I did everything I could to make
sure that we had the best person in place. And um, so I guess I have a couple questions for Jim. And the first one is I would love to hear what what is your vision for Bvard tomorrow?
Sir, I'm not like Mr. Visionary on it, but we have a number of things at least on the immediate um that we got to address. Uh the budget isn't finalized. We got, you know, and it will depend on implementing board direction of you know, you all voted on different villages and you have to finalize that. We got to continue to
work on a maintaining our quality workforce with our employee development. We have landfills, water plants to build. We got to maintain our roads. You heard today about our canals and ditches. Been out already with some of the crew understanding that some of the processes there. Sorrel is coming to an end. We all have to decide from the
board if we want to continue the funding of Sorrel. We got lots of infrastructure we need to uh deal with. We have referendum projects from parks that are 25 years old, libraries 20, 30 years old, bunch of other buildings. We have the detention center we got to keep up
on top of that. Um, uh, there's increased tourism we have to deal with. Um, we're and public safety remains a priority. The proposed budget we sent to you, that was the number one priority listening to you all. So that's that's that's the the main vision. And the other vision, I mean, we'll continue on
and um, I have a note here. There will always be hurricanes, other natural disasters to face. So that's we have to be up and ready for that. If I could, chair. Um, thank you for that. Um,
as far as the fire department goes, um, the 2472 schedule is something that's becoming a standard around the state. Um, are you willing to, of course, with board direction, um, are you willing to
get to a place to where we can offer our people Kelly Days? I I I won't really answer it directly because that would be part of the negotiation and that a little bit overstepping today. Um, but I can tell I've had conversation with several of you. We know where the market's going to
compete for firefighters. So, we know what the future looks like. Thank you. Um, I won't go into detail, um, but some of some of the employee issues that you and I have talked about. Um,
are you willing to look into these things not just at a director level and and do your due diligence to making sure that you have the whole story from all parties before a decision is made.
Mr. Chair, if I can go backwards, you know, let me do debate. I also forgot to add not only markets going for firefighters, we know more markets going for uh deputies and law enforcement and everything. So, we have to face that issue too. Um personnel, I mean there's a process.
Um I can tell you one director we had I wouldn't call we called them on the carpet. We the first situation we had the director went through a number of things. Um, but there's a process and as I explained on the one, uh, we had the county attorneys involved involved, we had HR involved, we had, um, uh, myself,
we had TAD involved. That's kind of given it away a little bit. I said nothing would happen until all our eyes are on it. I mean, you can't jump all the way down into a, you know, an overrule or tell a supervisor what to do when they've been through the process, but you can oversee, provide direction that way. But we do have a process for
employees. looking in those two situations, um I was satisfied the way it was handled. Um and and I said that, but then I also followed up with those departments explaining where I saw some issues. Um, as far as North Boulevard goes, we have
um I'm going to call it a flooding crisis to say the least. I had um a meeting a town hall where over 200 people showed up uh a week and a half ago and um you
don't have to go in depth to what the plan is, but do I have your commitment to helping us find a way through this and help uh giving the direction and the leadership
to um help solve this problem that we have in North Bard. Sir, um you know, I explained on the phone to you. You know, we have flooding and I don't use the right words, but water
movement all throughout the county. You know, we have North Merit Island we have to be keeping an eye on. Um we've uh West Coco, we've been in Rock unincorporated Rocklage area. Um in the old days, Lamp Lighter Village. Um so, yeah. So, we're always going to have to focus on what we got to do to help on flooding. So, you know, it all depends
on resources, but it's another case of you had um and I'll name them straight out. Bach was up there, but what you got to do is Bach comes back with solutions. You try to give him and his team, public works, everybody the resources we can give them and then get out of their way to get the job done. Well, I I hope that you um understand
where I'm coming from and that you know I I understand where this is going tonight and um I appreciate you uh stepping into the hot seat and um putting yourself out there for
the public. And um with that, uh I'll let Commissioner Goodson make the motion, but I'd like to second it. Okay. Any other discussion before we get to that? All through. All done. Okay.
Commissioner Goodson, sir. Uh reread your your motion. I'd like to move that we appoint Jim Lingensfeld to be the county manager. I want to include the motion that we appoint the chairman Felner and the county attorney to work out the details of a contract and bring it back to the
board at a future meeting. Okay. I have a motion by second Commissioner Goodson. I have a second by Commissioner Delaney. Clerk will call the role. Commissioner Delaney? Yes. Vice Chair Goodson? Yes.
Commissioner Atinson? Yes. Commissioner Alman? Yes. Jeremy Felner enthusiastically. Yes, Jim. Congratulations. We'll need to uh add some money to the county's mental health services.
Okay. Um commissioners, we're going to go into I got one card on the K section of public comments. Ronald Thompson. Thank you, commissioners. I come here tonight to talk about an agreement that was
approved by the previous commissions in December the 3rd, 2021. This this project was also talked about last year when Mr. Goodson and Mr. Felner was on the commission when they a
company wanted to when the commission was to approve a project that was joint this and changing zoning from residential to B1 I mean B to to B1 and so this project in this was
discussed in detail but the project was with this project is was an agreement with Dr. or Horton for uh traffic track traffic impact credit. Okay. And it exchanged free improvements on Minton
and Hill Road. Normal routine business to do so forever. But for whatever reason, they gave this developer three years to complete this project. Two years to start it, then an additional
year to complete it. Very abnormal. I don't know of another case in the county that has done that. So, it's been three years and the project's at a standstill. Just to bring you up to date, this project was completed by the developer
in March of 23 per the tax assessor's photograph. And then it was sold to another Canadian company for $79 million. So I don't think I don't think economics is reason, but for myself and
other residents, we've made many calls to and emails to Commissioner Alman's office seeking information and advice about this product. And the last call I got and email was from his office dated 88 just last Thursday or Friday. And I
will give you quotes from the email from his chief of staff. I spoke with Commissioner Alman and he went over all the details with him. He completely agrees that delays have been frustrating and he hopes
that we can wrap this project up soon. However, with that said, I have explained in email there is nothing that he can do to accelerate this project. He is at the mercy of the contractor.
For these reasons, he felt a meeting would not be productive and therefore not needed at this time. But paragraph 10 section D which I have a copy of this thing right here specifically states the city and
county shall and that to me that means must review this project agreement not less than once every 12 months. Okay. And it'll I'll yield you I'll yield you a little time there. Finish your thought there sir. Just it's okay. I extend your time.
Go ahead and finish your thought. and in good faith compliance with the agreement. If the developer fails to comply with the terms of his agreement, this agreement can be revoked or modified. And so we're you the commissioners are not at the mercy of the of the contractor. And Mr. Alman, I
I I regret that you would not take my call and because you said it was not needed, but I'm here tonight because you failing to take my call as well as others. So, yes, we're wasting my time, your time, and everybody else that's in
this audience to hear me complain about this. This project is done has passed the three-year commitment, and it has not been 40 days since one shovel of dirt has been moved on that project. And so, I'd like to know about three
questions. Is why has this project been collected? Let me get to the right one here. And this is the project the questions I have been trying to ask for quite some time. Sir, perhaps we could talk. Um, M.
Yeah. Um, Commissioner Alman. Okay. Um, first of all, I've had lengthy conversations with my staff. Yes. And my staff have been over backwards to work with uh the residents there on these issues. And I totally agree with your staff,
Danielle, answering our emails, but the problem is there's been no results. May, sir, let him let him finish. Um, I don't think there's anyone who's fought for the quality of life on Hill Road more than I have as an elected official. So, I'm committed to that, but it's not like we haven't done anything.
We're working. I I wouldn't say it's not necessarily we do something. It's probably premature. I'd like I'd like Mark Bernath if he can maybe address the issue in a little more detail from the county's perspective because our staff has also been working working uh on uh
on the issue. But I appreciate you being here and u and it's not like we've done nothing. We're fully aware of it and uh I'd like for maybe Mark to address it. Wow. Why hasn't this been done before?
Okay, sir. We're going to let the So, uh, Commissioner, as you know, and we've talked extensively, my staff, uh, with Danielle, this is a development project. It is not a capital improvement project where we can, uh, you know, hold
them accountable to a certain time. Uh, we, you know, can't exert LDS or anything, uh, like that. It's actually uh and I don't have it in front of me, but it's a multi-party agreement with the city uh where it's actually uh a
project uh the intersection improvements or a project that supports uh their I believe it's town houses or apartments and uh so you know our ability is very limited. It doesn't mean that we're not engaged. We are uh frequently talking to
the developer and trying to get this project to uh fruition. I think the county attorney had something. Uh, and Mark's correct. This is a project within the jurisdictional limits of the city of West Melbourne. There were some intersection improvements that are required on Mitten Road, which is a
county facility. So, the agreement you're referring to, sir, is just an impact fee credit reimbursement agreement. If the developer constructs the improvements as required, they're eligible for impact fee reimbursement. Yes. That's the county's involvement in it. As far as the requirements, you know,
that's sort of a carrot. The stick is with the city of West Melbourne who permitted the development. Um, they have the development approvals and and things like that. Uh, this is an impact fee reimbursement agreement. So, as Mark said, this isn't something the county contracted for work to be performed, but
rather it was okay developer because some of the improvements you're being required to do or capacity improvements, uh, to some extent, they are eligible for impact fee reimbursement. So, I'm sure we will review those and make sure and if they have uh you know not complied with the terms of the agreement, they're not going to be
eligible for impact fee reimbursement. But I'll work with the commission office and with staff. I was actually with the city of West Melbourne back when that agreement was entered. So, I'm very familiar with it from that perspective, but I don't know the status of the project out there these days. So, to summarize what you what are you
going to do about it? Well, I heard what you said, but what are you going to do? Well, I think what the only thing we can do because it's the city of Melbourne had this development agreement there, the city of West Melbourne that would enforce it. We did mention that impact fee uh
credits could be affected as a result. That's significant, but um but right now that's all we can do. And I think my staff has communicated that a lot. Um, and we we're and I I think I
think it will eventually be worked out. I think those impact fee credits mean a lot, but I'm optimistic, but we'll continue to work with you and monitor that situation. Well, you know, okay, it said the city and the county shall agree yearly.
Has that been done? You know, they can build a 300 unit apartment in in a year and a half, but can't build a roaded over three years. That's all my question. And so it's not they've not done anything in the last 40 days and it looks like a junkyard the way those
things are out there now. It's a safety hazard. The the t the uh uh cones are down. The flags are flying in the air. The uh barrier cades are are down. So I just can't understand why somebody can't have action because have you have you taught the city of
West Melbourne? No, I have not. I think that's where you need to go next because they're the ones who gave the development order and they're the ones who gave the permits. I think if you read this if you read this contract, the county is very much involved.
Now, I could be all wrong, but I don't think so. Hold on a second, sir. So, the the county had to approve permits because it's a county facility, Mitten Road, uh where the improvements were being made, but it again, it's a city permitting issue. I I wasn't aware of this. I'll be happy to look at it,
talk to Mark's folk. I'll talk to the city of West Melbourne staff and figure out what's going on and get back to you about what we can do about it. Great. Thank you for being here. Okay. Can I say one more thing? Hopefully, it will benefit all of you. If you'll take five minutes to return
citizens call, it will save time more than what it takes to make a phone call. But all we got was excuses. And don't get me wrong, Danielle have done a tremendous job of answering our questions, not only just mine, but many
other residents. And I regret that she has not been able to give me more detailed information. And if you think West Melvin is holding this up, you bet your bottom dollar there'll be a lot of phone calls from Melvin tomorrow. Okay. Thank you very much. All right, sir. Thank you. Okay. Uh,
that was our public comment. We're going to go into board reports. Mr. County Manager, you guys gonna kill me. I actually have something um because I didn't say thank you, but um and I wrote this down, but um came across a quote from St.
Augustine. I read a lot about humid I spelled it humid, but humility uh those who work with their hands know that in carry a weight safely, it is best not to lift it too far from the ground. though with with all the county employees, the directors, county manager's office, we will support each other and ensure that
we all carry the weight safely and together, not have to carry it too far to provide the best residence for the county. So, I am humbled. Thank you very much for your vote today. Thank you. Thanks, Jim. Okay, Mr. County Attorney, no report, Mr. Chairman.
Okay, Commissioner Delaney, no report. Okay. Commissioner Goodson, none. Okay. Uh, Commissioner Atinson, very quickly, I just wanted to um acknowledge um
yesterday Governor Dantis came to congratulate Bvard County on um the newly completed weir at the Crane Creek project. There was a lot of county staff there. We had commissioners there and it just shows that what we do for the lagoon, what we have been doing to
improve it is not going unnoticed and he promised to continue to support us in that endeavor. That's all about funding. Exactly. I mentioned it. We'll continue to work on the funding with the with the state. Commissioner Alman,
no report. Okay. Uh, and for for me, uh, Jim, again, congratulations. Uh, and then Don, sir, you're going to end us on a on a happy note. We have a, uh, we have a spotlight video that Don's
going to show us or do you want me to read it? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Appreciate that you gave me something there. Commissioners, today we have our second installment of the Space
Coast Government Television and Human Resources Recruitment and Employee Spotlight Campaign. As communications director Don Walker told us in our previous board meeting, these videos were put together through a summer internship program over the past three
months and will be used in a variety of ways throughout the year to help recruit new employees to Bard County government. Today's video features Jermaine Mcwite from our mosquito control department. My name is Jermaine Mcwite and I've been
working with the war kind of mosquito control for going on 10 years. How many mosquitoes can just I'm putting you on the spot. We have 80 solicit 80. We had the manonia cullex sarafa fio a tangas the
galley nipper noples and marropus. When I first came in I started as an inspector trainee and then I moved up to an inspector after I did my classes which involves you getting your pesticide license and your epicate
license. I decided to start voicing, start telling people, hey, instead of waiting for our supervisor and the other lead to say something to us, let's go. That's when they looked at me. It's like, hey, you can be the next lead. I
prevent viruses. Typical work day, the trap got to be set, try to count higher than normal. We go out, it's see what's going on. If it's bad, then we got to spray. We have toys that are fun to use but also helping treat the area cuz I
thought we was only stuck behind the daytime truck and our nighttime truck. But when you we started implementing drones and we started with the eight-wheeler, I was all about it. This is not a like a oneman machine type deal. It's like we're a whole team. That's another part of the leadership is
helping one another. We all sometimes we're either too busy or we're having a rough day. I would check on them. I was like, "Hey, how you doing? How you feeling?" They could be upset from having a bad night in the spring or they get put at rest. You know, they're fatigue or they grumpy. Like that's what I tell them. I like listen,
take your time. Don't rush nothing. If you need be cracking, my tip is don't be nervous. Cuz I the whole time coming in, I was thinking like, oh, they're not going to pick me because I know nothing about mosquitoes. Always come in to any
BVAR County facility with a blank slate. So you're eager to learn and you're eager to be trained. There's plenty opportunity to grow and plenty opportunity to start in Bavar County. Coming in to mosquito control, I didn't know nothing about mosquitoes and now
I'mma leave. You like dragon flies? I love them. I love dragon flies. They are larae killers. You could ride a dragonfly, would you? I got to go now. See y'all later. That's great.
Are you interested in a job like this? Apply today at www.braardfl.gov. Good job. Uh I'll say something about Mr. uh McW. I met him and spent part of the day with him. Uh we removed some tires with the uh waterway warriors um
from the river and uh we were at um Cocoa Beach um utility services area and they have a ramp there and so we I don't go out in boats so we were on the receiving end of all the tires dropped off and so if if if you happen to see
that video uh Jamine was was there and uh we we spent several hours together, unloading tires from u a boat, put them on a forklift, and um uh he he actually is very enthusiastic, but uh you know,
he he kind of downplayed it there a little bit, but um I I enjoyed the day with him. So, Don, everybody, thank you very much. I think we're done tonight. Commissioners, thank you. The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public
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