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and jurisdiction Welcome everyone to the April 8th um meeting for the board of county commissioners We have in we have a quorum So I'll call the meeting to order invitation tonight by Dr Bostic
City of Refuge You're recognized Thank you for being here Good evening everyone Let us pray Dear heavenly father God we're so grateful to be in your presence tonight God we just thank you
for this meeting that we have gathered We are asking Lord for your divine wisdom knowledge and understanding We thank you for the peace We thank you for the order And God we pray for every
commissioner I pray a blessing upon them and their lives and their families And all of your people that are here tonight we pray your divine protection our children as they go to school God we pray for our school board
as well our superintendent our teachers our staff And God we just give you the glory for what you have done here tonight Thank you Lord for increase in our district in our um
county in our state and in our nation We give you the glory for all that you have done in Jesus' name Amen Amen Thank you very much uh Commissioner Goodson for an announcement
followed by the pledge Um yes I'd like to tell you this was not due to my wife Okay Um I tried to make up all kind of stories but short and simple Tripped and fell into a fence and then fell into a brick paper file pile I wish it was more
exciting but it will get better with time So if you'll stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for
all Yes sir And Commissioner Goodson we wish you speedy recovery Okay Uh Commissioners we have minutes for approval from January 14th regular meeting February 11th uh regular
meeting February 25th regular meeting Is there a motion to approve we have a motion to approve by Commissioner Delaney Is there a second we have a second by Commissioner Al Alman The clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes
Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner yes We'll show that passes 5-0 Thank you commissioners Uh we're going to skip the move around a little bit in the order
here I see the sheriff in the back So we're going to go to item E2 Sheriff We have a resolution tonight for Commander K9 Juny I'll read the resolution then we'll look for a motion Um after we pass it then Sheriff uh
you'll share some words with us and then we'll take we'll present you with a a framed copy and Okay Whereas Commander J K9 Juny was lovingly known as America's top police dog And whereas Commander K9 Juny was a loyal
and loving dog who loved citizens and was the Bvard County Sheriff's Ambassador And whereas Commander K9 Juny carried the legacy of Juny Rios Martinez who was abducted and murdered And Commander K9 Juny was originally gifted to the sheriff's office by the Jimmy
Rice Center to search for abductive abduct abducted and lost children in 2014 And whereas Commander K9 Juny was partnered to Sheriff Wayne Ivy and was a seasoned traveler visiting over five states and the District of Columbia And
whereas Commander K9 Juny had a cameo role in the Space Coast ballet production of The Nutcracker And whereas Commander K9 Juny is the namesake of K9 Juny Animal Medical Center And whereas Commander K9 Juny taught how to love
unconditionally He taught the true meaning of loyalty He taught how to protect those you love He taught how to forgive in seconds not days He taught how to trust He taught how to live life to the fullest He taught us how to play
like there is no tomorrow He taught us how to take naps and he taught us how to have faith in who takes care of you Now therefore be it resolved that the board of county commissioners of Bvoulevard County Florida does hereby recognize and honor America's top police dog Commander
K9 Juny done ordered and adopted in regular session this 8th day of April 2025 Commissioners move to approve There's a motion by Commissioner Delaney Is there a second we have a second by Commissioner Atinson Clerk will call the role
Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felton yes Sheriff you're recognized sir First of all chairman thank you and thank commissioners for uh recognizing Juny Um
this has been uh probably the toughest uh couple of weeks of my life Um none of us imagined what uh what Jun's uh persona would become here in Bvard County and all the things that he did from being involved in uh helping uh allow pets to be in domestic violence
injunctions to helping protect uh animals to helping uh the different many different programs that we had Juny did it all And uh I um I want to thank you for uh for recognizing not only not only Juny but the legacy that he carries on of Juny Rios Martinez I also want to
thank our citizens for the the love and the uh the just uh outpouring of of um thoughts and prayers that everybody has has thrown our way um at the sheriff's office Uh no secret I that dog went with me
everywhere and uh I am uh I'm honored to accept this resolution on his behalf and again thank this entire commission this entire community for how much they love Juny Um their their thoughts and prayers and the outpouring of love is um eased uh the pain of losing him So thank you
sir All right sir We have a resolution for you here [Applause] Thank you everybody Okay Commissioner Alman you have a
resolution tonight sir Yes I do Thank you Mr Chairman I have a resolution recognizing child abuse prevention month Whereas prevention is possible with the right policies and investments families and children can thrive and avoid
contact with child welfare and other costly systems Whereas the early experiences of a child impact them throughout life both positively and negatively And whereas every family and child is filled with tremendous promise and we we
all have a collective responsibility to prevent adverse childhood experiences foster the potential of every child and promote positive childhood experiences And whereas positive childhood experiences such as loving caregivers and safe stable and
nurturing relationships play a vital role in helping children thrive by mitigating trauma and the negative impact of adverse childhood experiences And whereas families who receive the support they need before a crisis occurs are better equipped to provide safe
healthy and nurturing environments leading to the children who are safer healthier and more hopeful about their futures And whereas childhood trauma including abuse and neglect can have long-term psychological emotional and physical effects throughout an
individual's lifetime and impact future generations And whereas primary prevention of child abuse and neglect can reduce the lifelong economic burden associated with child mis maltreatment And whereas effective child abuse
prevention activities succeed because of the partnership created between child welfare professionals education health and community and faith-based organization businesses law enforcement agencies and families And whereas communities must take every effort to
promote programs and activities that create strong and thriving children and families And whereas we acknowledge that we must work together as a community to increase awareness about families about families need what they need before they are in a crisis and contribute to
promoting the social and emotional well-being of children and families in a safe stable and nurturing environment And whereas investments in primary prevention initiatives such as early childhood home visiting programs policies that promote economic stability
and mobility and community child abuse prevention efforts reduce the likelihood abuse and neglect of and ensure children have the foundation for a lifelong well-being And whereas primary prevention remains the best defense for
our children and families we can prevent child abuse and neglect before it happens Now therefore it be it resolved that the board of county commissioners of Bvoulevard County Florida does hereby proclaim the month of April 2025 as child abuse prevention month and urges
all citizens to recognize this month by dedicating ourselves to the task of improving the quality of life for all children and families Together we can create a state where every child can grow up happy healthy and safe with the hope for their future donor order and
adopted this regular session this 8th day April 2025 move to approve Okay I was going to ask Commissioner Alman but we have a motion by Commissioner Delaney and Sir a motion Okay We have a second by Commissioner Alman Clerk will call the
role Commissioner Delaney Yes Vice Chair Goodson Yes Commissioner Atkinson Yes Commissioner Alman Yes Chairman Felner Yes We'll show the approve 5 You're recognized Ma'am thank you so much um to
you Commissioner Altman and all of the commissioners for supporting this initiative This is a national initiative child abuse prevention month but we plant pinw wheels Um you'll see these be beautiful blue pin wheels planted um in
honor of Bvard's children Um it represents a happy healthy whimsical child and that's what every child in Bvard County deserves The Child Abuse Prevention Task Force of Brevard is made up of wonderful organizations
represented here today Children's Advocacy Center Guardian Family Partnerships of Central Florida and many others that are working tirelessly to ensure that our children grow up happy and healthy And we just thank the
community again for supporting this initiative that the pinwheel does represent that we can make a difference And I just thank you again [Applause]
[Music] [Applause] Sir you're recognized Commissioner Alman I just want to thank um those who have dedicated their lives to protecting our children There's no greater cause or
greater purpose u than to protect protecting our children and ensuring that we give them the fullest life possible So thank you Thank you for being here Thank you sir Okay Uh Commissioner Delaney you have a resolution tonight
Thank you This is uh Fair Housing Month proclamation Whereas April 11 2025 marks the 57th anniversary of the passage of the Fair Housing Act which affirms national policy of fair housing for all who have lived in the United States And
whereas the Fair Housing Act prohibits discrimination based on race color religion sex handicap familial status and national origin And whereas this act provides equal housing opportunity for all Americans regardless of race color
sex religion or national origin as well as to ensure fair practice in the sale rental or financing of a property And whereas the Fair Housing Amendments Act of 1988 added new rights remedies
monetary penalties and stren strengthened its enforcement procedures And whereas the Fair Housing Amendments act to seek to provide equal housing opportunities to affirmatively further
housing choices to eliminate legal barriers to equal housing and to emphasize equal housing as a fundamental human right for all And whereas Bvard County is committed to fair housing and promotes services and activities
provided by BIS provided by private and public entities for equal housing opportunities for all residents and prospective residents And whereas Bvard County fully supports the intent and purpose of the federal fair housing act
fair local fair housing laws and follows policies and practices in order to achieve its goal Now therefore be it resolved that the board of county commissioners of Bvard County Florida dear do hereby proclaim April 2025 as
fair housing month Uh done ordered and adopted in regular session on this 8th day of April 2025 Commissioner you want to make the motion sure Move to approve Okay We have a motion by Commissioner Delaney Is there a second second We have a second by Commissioner Alman Clerk
will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner yes We'll show the adopted 5-0 Commissioner Delaney did you have um were the I think your guest here
Are you going to speak sir on behalf of the group i'll be happy to Okay It's okay Rush B Association Realtors we just want to say thank you for supporting this uh proclaiming this fair housing month We all know what a fun fundamental right and important for workforce and families and everything
this is for Bard County So we appreciate that very bringing that forward So anybody else she I think she has a framed resolution for you and take a picture Okay [Applause]
[Applause] Thank you very much Uh as uh Commissioner Delaneie is making her way back here Um Mark you're going to introduce this item Good evening board On uh February 7th 2023 the board authorized a right of
entry to begin an environmental assessment uh for the former Naval Air Station Banana River offbase disposal area in South Patrick Shores Tonight Mrs uh Lee Duffel and Mr Tompa from the US Army Corps of Engineers is here to briefly present next steps which include
digging test pits in our community uh later this month Ma'am you're recognized Thank you My name is Rebecca Lee Duffel I'm the project manager You might have to speak directly in the microphone so everybody at home can hear you Okay How's this yeah that's better Okay I'm Rebecca Lee Duffel I'm the project
manager for this FUDS project And these were the conclusions from the preliminary assessment And right now where we are in this circular phase is the remedial investigation So that's what we're doing
with the test bits right now So the the reason for the RARI is it's not a removal action We're not looking for things to remove um but to identify the nature and extent of potential Navy related
impacts And the results and data from this FS is going to determine what we do in the future at the site And on here it's hard to see but uh we've got the test pits here on this map and we use ground penetrating radar to
find the best locations um to dig the test pits And we've gotten property owner permission to do do the test pits Um Um so we'll document conditions before
and after mark utilities and uh there's going to be a small excavator to dig the trench It's going to be about 10 ft and go down 6 to 8 ft And once we get that data um that's going to determine our next steps which
would be soil sampling and analysis and u groundwater sampling if necessary So we've been doing a lot of communication with the the public um letters
postcards um drop in meetings telephone calls So there's been a lot of communication with everyone there And our test pits starting April 2025 We're starting next week in the field And Brad and I will be there to do
oversight And based on those results we'll do so soil borings in summer 2025 Any questions or comments uh Commissioner Delaney go ahead I see you reaching for your library Thank you for giving us this update Um I was
wondering um just cuz I can't tell from the map Is the high school This is Satellite Beach right here Um is that that's where the test that's where we're talking about Yeah Is Satellite Beach Is are any of the test
pits going to be on the high school or uh satellite or Dora no No ma'am Thank you Obviously uh you'll have um once you compile all of this information then you'll have to
decide what that means How long tell us tell us what happens next Um just since you're here today and the public's watching So what what are the next the next steps well really it's going to be we have to analyze the data and then not
till summer 2025 will we maybe start the borings After that it would be we have to get the data back What's the timeline for that few months few months we'll get the data from that So maybe by by Christmas we'll
we'll have some some answers from from the army corps at least on on this um sampling Yes sir Okay Are there other questions commissioners Commissioner Delaney for a question If if you guys do
um you know find some troubling uh data points is there any thought to check the schools over there that area because I know that there are a lot of people I've been to a couple of the RAB board meetings and so I know that that's a huge um concern
So I'm trying to understand your question Is we're not doing a test bit at the school but you're saying if we find something are you doing are you going to expand it all or is it just in that target area that you were that you showed us on the maps um this is just for the initial test pits Based on the
results there could be more test pits and we don't have those locations yet Okay Any other questions sir Commissioner Goodson Um usually it follows the water table as far as flow you know if you have some sort of a
pollutant Correct Follows a what water table as far as flow plumes Correct Correct Which way is the plume going naturally down there does it go to the river the ocean or does it go south which way is the water flow now
we really don't know yet Sir if you would if you wouldn't mind saying that on the mic for the benefit of this Brad He's our technical lead Okay Thank you sir That would be um we really don't know the flow We don't have monitoring wells in yet Um we assume it
might be tidily influenced a little bit but it's probably you know relatively flat because it's sand So we we just don't know And to your question about the school um the footprint you see was based on aerial imagery historical aerial imagery
of of what we know where the extent of where material may have been buried by the Navy So that's kind of where we're focusing our study for this phase Question chair Sir do you know what was buried there
no idea No idea No idea Well um it was an uncontrolled dump since World War II Correct Um and that's the purpose of what we're doing Preliminary work was done in
the I want to say the early 2000s by the EPA Um the good part of that is they didn't find any contaminants in the groundwater or soil All right So okay Thank you Chair Uh a final question sir if I might Um have have you done this
kind of work in other uh places other other uh formerly used uh defense sites similar projects um not this exact one but similar I won't ask you uh to predict the outcome but just the the
path that some of those have taken before Um it it's highly variable We did something similar in Puerto Rico with trenches and and sampling and monitoring wells um of an old landfill
and as bad as it looked we really didn't find any contaminants If uh if the Army Corps were to find uh something what what is remediation is that something the core would also be tasked with is is the remediation
we would as if that phase came along we would definitely develop a plan for that as well Okay And is that soil removal is is that is I'm not asking typical because I understand that each one of these are
different I I get that our our our barrier island is different than there's different other places that you've been but is that a kind of a starting point there's multiple ways This is the early starting point Um but if there is problematic soil contaminants then yes
that would it would have to be addressed Okay Yeah All right Commissioners Commissioner Alman and then we'll go to Commissioner Delaney So I see the map um the area that was slide five The green area is the area where you received
right of entry Correct Those are the properties where people have agreed to let us either do the GPR on their property or to do a test pit Are there any property owners who said no yeah the property So this is just the area This
Do we have a map of of the actual This is what we have This is what we have Okay Uh so if you kind of imagine this area being outlined right would would be the entire area So you see there's some parcels within the area that that are not green So those people
declined um to have the work done Okay Uh Commissioner Delaney Um I I hate to put you on the spot here I'm sorry for this but I just feel like um it's a little disingenuous saying
that there's probably not contamination in this area Oh that's why we're here Okay We're not saying we're not predetermining anything That's that's why this study is taken You know the slides she put up where there shows the circular process
is a very rigorous process of getting to a point where you determine what the you know how to do the investigation what you're going to investigate for It's a very rigorous process And you're just seeing two people There's really a team We have a team of folks in Jacksonville and
Huntsville on the Army Corps side And then we have our contractors and their scientists and engineers who have been developing these plans and we've been reviewing them and and making sure they're going to address those questions So it's a very
rigorous development of of what we're going to analyze for and how many samples we're going to take Are you aware that there are residents who have dug in their own yards and that they have had massive side effects from the things that they've dug up in their yards i know people have have dug material up
I'm not sure of any health of the health issues Well I'm telling you now Okay So just so you know Yes Um so that's why I I I just our residents here are very aware of what's going on in this area and so and
that's why we're glad to do this I mean this is and again we you know it seems like it's taken a long time but we the process we have to go through to make sure the money is spent correctly is you develop a very good plan and then
you work the plan and you move on and it's a sequential plan step by step we move forward um as we gather information Okay Thank you commissioners Any other questions i'll ask one more If we had a serious uh weather event um late spring
early summer how how would that affect things um for you you said summer you're going to do the boring We can the borings basically So the first the first task are these test pits based on this information We we're kind of using this
information to prove what we found in the GPR studies So we did GPR studies six months ago Uh that identified possible buried material These test bits are going to go to those areas We're going to dig up see
what we find and then based on that we can use the borings to go to other areas and do borings and see if it's what material we find there So okay sir I think that's it Thank you very much for coming tonight We appreciate it Thank
you Thank you Thank you Okay Uh just uh okay so we will go on to consent and and Melissa So while everybody's thinking about that do we have any cards for the G oh no Okay Well
on G items do you have G item cards okay Okay Commissioners are there anything that anything you want to take off of consent i would like to um pull uh appointments and not to um do
anything other than I would I would love for my appointee to be able to introduce herself if that's okay Okay So uh that's item F6 right yes Okay Anything else
commissioners you want to take off of consent no Okay Um we'll we'll oblige Um you want to introduce your uh appointee and then uh we'll entertain a motion for the whole consent How's that thank you Okay
Miss Gekcki would you mind coming up um she is going to be my appointee to the EDC and thank you so much for uh serving in this role and I'm excited to work with you Excellent Well thank you Commissioner Delaney and to the entire county commission uh board My name is
Marcia Gedkkey and I'm a lifelong resident of Titusville Um I've worked for the last 30 almost 30 years uh in the community in some form or fashion uh primarily in uh developing our community and on the business development side um
as the president of the Chamber of Commerce in Titusville and I'm now at the Titusville Playhouse So um I'm excited to um be able to work with many of my friends uh again in the community and I look forward to representing uh
Commissioner Delaney and certainly uh this board uh at the EDC and um making good things happen in BVAR County So thank thank you very much Awesome Thank you Okay commissioners is there a motion for consent
second Oh that's okay We have a motion by Commissioner Atinson We have a second by Commissioner Altman Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman
Felton yes We'll show that passes 5-0 Thank you Okay we have uh five cards on the G section of public comment Uh Jean Higgins ma'am you're recognized Hello I'm Jane Higgins from Palm Bay
Florida and I presented to you last month at the SEIR review and just wanted to share some additional information that we found um with you because it's a journey here um with our learning about
low impact development So what is low impact development on the second slide these are right off the BAR County LI retrofit guide which we found didn't know if you were aware of the Bvard
County Lrit Guide I was not So it was interesting to find that document Um and if you go to the next slide what's the good news basically it was finding that document that was prepared in 2020 It is
a retrofit guide for commercial and light industrial facilities Um but it's a very thorough guide um dealing with those and it's out on the Florida Dite So I have the link out there The Florida D site is an excellent reference
for all things environmental in the state of Florida So if you get a chance to look at that if you haven't already you may have And then also I was very impressed with the Bvard County Natural Resources um storm water public
education site that's out there It incorporates many of the LI principles It doesn't call it LI but it is very LI oriented Um and there's great resources on the Florida D as I said And I did
want to give a huge shout out to the many Florida Bvard County parks out there that are using native plants which are a key component of LI You might be familiar with the Enchanted Forest up north It's just a treasure Erna Nixon we
work with a lot in Conradina and the Rotary Park at Sun Tree was featured on our landscape tour last year So that has a lot of great plants on it And then I put a page here suggestions for future considerations as y'all are going
through all these sears that you have to go through now that we have them available to us We really appreciate the opportunity for that input 12 seers just on LI I thought was awesome And several other recommendations here as well And
the last slide I knew I probably wouldn't get to but just wanted to point out the difference between Florida friendly landscaping and Florida native plants because it is an important differentiation between those two Native plants are within Florida friendly but
Florida friendly encompasses more than just the native So very important environmentally to understand those differences So I think the buzzer is going to ring Um is there any questions that I can answer for you so the plants
that uh grow between the cracks of the sidewalk that you don't necessarily want there Are they native or are they friendly um I'd have to know what they were specifically Chances are they might be neither They might be invasive Okay Unfortunately I have some that are very
determined Yes they are very determined I always think that that should be the lawn because that's what wants to be here So right and many grasses are invasive in fact So thank you very much We appreciate it Thank you And I look forward to your SER analysis Okay Thank
you Thank you ma'am Christina Fleming Good evening board My name is Christina Fleming and I'm here today not as a retired firefighter I'm here as a firefighter's wife A voice for the silent sufferers in our community I stand before you not just as a spouse but as someone who sees firsthand the
incredible strain that mandatory overtime and understaffing are placing on the men and women who serve as our firefighters as well as on their families We the spouses are the unsung heroes We are the ones who are expected to juggle multiple roles Roles that no one sees but are crucial to keeping our
families afloat We are the Uber drivers the chefs the doctors the nurses the housekeepers the lawn maintenance workers the handymen when things breaks and our husbands and wives are at work We are the teachers and we are also the therapists And now for some of us we have to play these roles even more
because our firefighter spouses are working more hours covering more shifts and sacrificing their time and well-being just to make ends meet It's not just about the long hours For some it's the emotional toll of balancing their role as a firefighter while simultaneously carrying the weight of
home life without the support of their partner There are now firefighters working whose spouses have died dying or they're just ill which leaves them with even more responsibility All of this while the pay for a Bvard County employee particularly a firefighter simply doesn't stretch far enough And
when other sources of income are unavailable or scarce it forces us to stretch every dollar We are doing everything we can to create a budget that meets the basic needs Food shelter utilities and healthcare But to these in these times of rising prices even these
are bare necessities are becoming harder and harder to maintain The county has been in a state of critical need for far too long And yet nothing seems to be done except for kicking the can down the road Our spouses have been forced to work longer harder and for less And now with the recent news of Orlando Health
closing its Rocklash facility our spices our spouses are going to feel the added pressure of even fewer resources for our community This decision is going to put an additional strain on them both physically and emotionally I have two questions You are asking tonight one district to give up
funding Why are we not asking each district to get rid of their extraneous monies i'm sure all of you have a few million dollars that you can spare Number two why has the county not made a decision on the fire department funding wages and the response models
yet as a community we should be doing everything we can to support our first responders not pushing them to their limits without addressing the root causes of this ongoing issue It's time to stop waiting and take the action Our firefighters are not just the backbone of this community They are the ones who keep everything running smoothly behind
the scenes I urge the board to take immediate action to address the understaffing and mandatory overtimes that are harming not just our firefighters but their families as well Our community depends on these brave men and women and we as their spouses are silently bearing the weight of the sacrifices they are making It is time
for us to stand up and ensure that they are supported in the ways they deserve Thank you Thank you Steve Brush Did I say that right no we did that routine once before I said we did that routine before Yeah
you recognize sir Thank you chairman Um I will be extremely brief I just want to introduce myself to those of you who have not had the pleasure of meeting Uh my name is Steve Buck resident of Satellite Beach Also applied to be on the affordable housing advisory committee So just want to introduce myself I've been able to meet with some of you Hopefully we'll have more of that
soon But just wanted to put a face with the name I know it has to go through department I think recognition but hopefully they'll be voted on sometime in the near future So um I submitted my information I think to each of you have that So have background obviously with Habitat for Humanity we would advocate for affordable housing being part of
that or attainable home ownership being a part of that affordable housing equation So um I do bring uh many years of experience in government board experience tax tax uh financing authority uh redevelopment authority at county level So would would uh appreciate a vote on that Look forward
to being part of the conversation And again just want to put a face with the name Steve Buck with Space Coast Habitat Thank you I'll get it right Steve if you don't if you don't mind I just want to say thank you so much for what you do And um as far as affordable housing goes your guys' mission is something that's
awesome Getting people into home ownership That is in my opinion what we should be focusing on I I appreciate that enormously It is it is definitely an and conversation where there's so many different avenues of affordable housing and it's it's not an or conversation between rental and LITC but it's an and conversation So that's just
trying to keep that in the forefront of the conversation So thank you Thank you sir Jan Scott Good evening Thank you for letting me speak tonight Um I'm wanted to bring up one topic that's been in the national
news lately I'm a third generation descendant from the construction of the Panama Canal And um you may not know that the Panama Canal was given in a treaty to a uh military dictator Omar Herrius by one
Senate vote Uh Senator Dancini uh voted to give away the Panama Canal That was the deciding vote I am a former elected official mayor of Cocoa Beach and I know the value of a vote that one
vote It is a big impact on other things that happen uh as you move on from that uh thing that you voted on to what somebody else does I am an avid uh per advocate for no taxation I don't believe
that it's imp uh imperative of the community and the EDC and all these other things that go on to give a tax abatement to a 501 corporation C3 C4 whatever they are
After you make that vote you never see where the money is going and being passed on to someone else It's really very difficult Um I also wanted to address this evening the turtle nesting in Cocoa Beach Between March 1st and
October 75,000 turtles nest in in Bvard Beaches This TDC gave $50,000 to Superboat Race and Thunder on the beach in Cocoa Beach I realize I've heard you may have heard that I talk about it a lot I am not against all the fun on the
beach What I am against is the date of the race May 18th to May 20th I feel very strongly that the state the counties the cities should be consistent People you know badgered all the time turn out your lights close your curtains
on the beach it's turtle nesting season Oh but we can have a boat race where a half a ton boat can zoom up and down and hit a 2,000 pound object It's going to be sad for who when that happens It has happened I believe in the past kept very
quiet and kept on the down low and the race has been shut down But why go through that why not just move the date of the race to some other time thank you Thank you Elizabeth Blackford
Good evening commissioners I'm Elizabeth Blackford from Palm Bay Florida and a 2015 graduate of the Bvard County's Citizens Academy This year I participated in the Speak Up Bvard program for the first time submitting
two suggestions and elaborating on them during the March 3rd workshop While the program has generated great ideas since its inception in 2010 I found the process of submitting and implementing ideas
lacking This led me to join an ad hoc committee aimed at improving the speak up bard process Our goal is to ensure future citizens efficiency and effectiveness
res recommendations or seers uh are thoughtful researched and actionable making it easier for you and the county staff to implement them
We plan to test some of our ideas this cycle to help you make your vote in May a step forward in harvesting the best suggestions for improving our quality of life here in Bvard County Thank you all for your attention Thank you very
much All right commissioners That's uh the G section of the public comments We'll go to item H1 Jill you're recognized Good evening commissioners This agenda item requests approval of the mid-year budget supplement and amends the projected balance forward
budgets that were developed before the close out of fiscal year 2024 Uh the adopted budget includes estimated balance forward based on anticipated level of revenue expenses and project completion And during the first several months of the new fiscal
year uh revenue and expenses are still being acred and the financial statements are then reconciled and audited by county finance and uh then staff analyzes the actual balance forwards and changes are then brought uh to the board
for approval And so most of these adjustments are associated with multi-year projects but our agenda and supporting documentation summarize the total change in each fund type and also includes the individual budget change requests as well as the advertisement of
public hearing And we're available to answer any questions you may have Commissioners questions Okay Do we need to uh approve Jill yes Do you need a motion okay Correct All right Is there a motion to approve
motion to approve We have a motion by Commissioner Atinson Is there a second second We have a second by Commissioner Alman Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner
yes We'll show that passes 5-0 Thank you commissioners Okay we'll go to item uh I1 I don't think Peter is here tonight Um Commissioner if you want to vote on it we can But u just just very quickly um
I'd like to leave the uh 20,000 with the TDC So I make a motion to allow the TDC to keep the 28,000 Okay Okay So second Okay We have a motion by Commissioner Atkinson on I1 We have a second by Commissioner Delaney Clerk will call the role Commissioner
Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felman yes We'll show that passes 5 Okay Commissioners we're going to go to item I2
Good evening commissioners I2 is uh for the uh termination of the lease for the forever home as well as um implementing past uh previous board direction to provide um a request a draft request for
proposal uh to lease the facility and uh then for the board to authorize the selection of the uh negotiation committee So uh the first uh action that we're requesting is to approve the previous termination of the lease if we
can do that Mr Chair Okay Commissioner So we're going to do this in uh two parts Now I do have speaker cards but I think everyone is probably in favor of terminating the the lease So let's let's uh do that Okay Just as a housekeeping issue is there a motion to terminate the
lease move to approve the termination of the lease Okay Commissioner Delaney moves that we terminate the the lease Is there a second second I have a second by Commissioner Atinson Clerk will call the role on terminating the lease
Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felton yes Okay We'll show that adopted 50 Thank you for that commissioners Okay uh when we do have a few cards on this item
So let's go to the um actually I guess let's do questions are the are the questions for staff I'm sorry Go ahead Commissioner Delaney I don't really have a question but I would just love to clarify um something that I think I'm there was like a miscommunication in the
lines at the last meeting I I was trying to convey that if this was the way that we wanted to go I just wanted a fair process And so I just wanted to put it out there that I'm still um open to the conversation with the rest of the board about how we want to move forward with
this property I'm not sold on any one particular avenue Okay we appreciate that Are there questions are there any questions before we go to the cards okay Uh Sarah Skywin Hello everybody Uh good evening
Uh I wanted to introduce uh Cara Lester She's my cohort with Bvard um Bark House Um I just wanted to say thank you um and just put it back on the plate that we're really interested in the building to
help out the community Um we have an extreme amount of backup Um and we just hope that that is an option that is um on the table for us to do And uh we just want to make ourselves open to any
questions that anybody might have at all Okay Uh commissioners while um Miss Sarah is here other questions Anything else you want to say ma'am you still have some time no that's all We're just looking um forward to
helping the community And that's it I wanted to introduce my my sidekick here And so and thank you again We really appreciate it Okay Thank you very much Richard Ling
I really don't have anything I spoke at the last meeting We're just I'm just here to find out the determination of what they want to do with the property and how they're going to go about possibly leasing it out if that's the case Okay sir Are there any questions for Mr Lane
okay Thank you sir We appreciate that Teresa Clifton our Humane Society Good evening I am Teresa Clifton the executive director of the Bvard Humane Society for the last 21
years We've been serving the community since 1952 and started on Clear Lake Road moving to Cox Road in 1962 And I have to say I have seen a lot during this time I'm amazed that people move to our
community and do not want to help exist existing successful businesses that are nonprofits do what they do in the community Instead they want to start up another one duplicating existing services causing the public to choose who to give their expendable funds to
Makes no sense to me because most of them do not last more than three to five years I've already lived what you guys have to work through because well anyway regarding the building at 2605 Flake Road there's no point in
discussing the conditions as you all already heard it from your own staff and the sheriff Yes I've spoken to him and he's not interested at all in it being staying alive but I will only say it needs to be condemned and demolished It's not habitable Aside from the fleas
ticks ringorms mold feces and rats drains electric all of that with the building itself is a hazard Factually speaking if we put even that aside do you really need another facility to h house animals let me tell
you some facts The Humane Society in 2003 had over 6,000 animals come through our shelter 20,000 countywide Today well 2024 we had 1,800
And in the last 10 years because of the low amount of animals coming through Bvard County we have taken in the last 10 years over 3,500 animals from other counties from other states all the way even Puerto Rico and other areas Also
today I have Susan Naylor in the audience She is the executive director of the SPCA and I received information from her as well The SPCA is located in Titusville Imagine that It's a really beautiful facility They are also a
40-year-old organization and they too have had excessive room for animals In the last 5 years they annually average taking in about 2,000 animals And in a last 5year period they
took in 3,200 animals from outside of our community I don't see where you would want to have another group come in and try to put all of their efforts into this dilapidated building that should have been destroyed
when the sheriff left My recommendation is to let's not repeat history Please demolish the building sell it give the property to roads and bridges because it is connected to roads and bridges I'm sure they need to put culverts or stuff on it I mean or or you can sell it or do
whatever you like with it But quite frankly it it it just aggravates me and I'm really sorry I went over my time but this is something that really drives me insane I try and stay in my area but the animals if we're killing any of them
somebody needs to tell me where they are because I'm still taking them in from other areas Okay ma'am Thank Thank you very much You're welcome Question Commissioner Goodson for a question sir Question If you're taking animals from other countries other counties other states are the taxpayers of Bard paying
for that that's the beauty of it Neither SPCA nor the Humane Society receives a dime from taxpayers We operate on our own We are self-supporting and self- sustaining I don't even think that the people that want to take on this
building understand we average 35 to $50,000 every month in the red in our shelter That money comes from the services that we and things we provide to the community in other ways We have a lowcost spayneuter and wellness clinic
We have thrift shops We have a bed and biscuit doggy daycare pet hotel Those are things that help the community Lowcost income help them and it helps us to sustain SPCA has the same uh budget and if the people want to help they
really should go to those wellestablished organizations And I've been a guardian at Lightum 33 years I think people that want to help kids should also become a volunteer with the guardian editum program Don't go create your own new thing because we have some really great programs in our own
community So there's no point in creating more There's just not enough support for it I have a question Sorry Yes May I if they did create another thing how would it hurt you how would Oh it it's not hurting us at all So then you have if a guy wants a hamburger
stand but you have one and you don't want him to have one Is that what you're saying no sir Well it seems like that's what you're saying I'm sorry Commissioner Goodson have you ever been to the North Animal Care Center or Forever Friends yeah but you didn't answer the question Why are you so adamant you don't want anybody else to
have the same thing you got i'm not Okay good Then he can have it then right it is the building itself that building He could buy build a brand new building and you'd be happy Correct If he builds a brand new building Sure Have at it All
right Thank you madam Commissioners any other questions commissioner Atinson can you just give me a number what does it cost to run the shelter just per year Yeah Your shelter the one that you're familiar the one
that you know The shelter itself we put in about $1.5 million a year into it just to operate A year A year Every year just to operate That does not include maintenance does not include repairs does not include the $3 million I raised on the side to rebuild the front of the
building that we are currently doing I have another question for Commissioner Atinson I have a question for staff I'm not sure who the right person is to ask Do we have any more questions for Miss Clifton though no it's okay It's all right Any other questions ma'am thank you very much Okay So if there's
follow-up questions for staff Commissioner Atinson would there be any cost to the taxpayers if we let's say this building was kept and it was leased out commissioner the way that we uh drafted the request for proposal and
obviously that assumes the board approves us to move forward is that they would have to show uh their assets the liquidity their business plan how they're going to be able to do it But uh we would be offering no uh monetary
value uh towards this Uh they would have to demonstrate that that uh selection committee would then review those proposals uh how they're going to actually address all of our concerns There's going to be a requirement that they would have to do a mandatory walkthrough with us where we'll have PPV
uh PPE such as N95 masks because of the uh biohazards that you heard about Uh but at the end of the day the selection committee will uh review it and then come back to the board with a recommendation to either accept it reject it or revise uh based on the the
committee's recommendations One more question So then that's that's just going to be staff time to go through all of those applications Okay Thank you Commissioner Delaney What about the code
enforcement issues m so uh right now uh commissioner the uh Titusville city of Titusville code enforcement um office requires that we provide or resolve it by 9 June Uh we had discussions we're having them through the county
attorney's office but if we provide a solid plan u we believe that there may be some additional flexibility there And so one of the things that uh as part of the proposal they would have to address how they're going to actually rectify
the code issues and we would have to be convinced as a committee of that We would then bring it forward to the city of Titusville Okay Uh we're done with the cards I think Any follow-up questions um and I think I
asked this um before Mark Um if that building were demolished you wouldn't have an immediate plan for so as far as uh you know public works road and bridge um not necessarily an immediate need If the board were to
consider the demolish option my recommendation would be that we hold on the property We are currently um under um a review process where we we have a outside consultant doing a master plan looking at three of our road and bridge
facilities one of which is Flake Road I would suggest that we certainly uh get rid of the building but then hold short on what to do with the property until we get through that uh master plan evaluation But if we went that route some someday
potentially you could have heavy equipment out there storage of culverts gravel all all of those things potentially Yes sir Yeah Okay All right commissioners Um I was wondering is there does does anybody
have any discussion over this because I feel like last time we really like focused on like the I was just the icky of the building No I just didn't know if you were going to call the motion No No ma'am I was I was going to say we're we're in discussion here So Commissioner Delaney you want to you want to start
that sure Um so like I said before I'm not really sold on any which way I have major concerns for the welfare welfare of the animals Um especially after um Mark has you know talked to me a lot
about the condition of the building He's been there again if I remember correctly recently again right um and I've had a lot more residents um input on this issue since it's been talked about so much Um people are very
concerned I've only gotten um I haven't gotten any positive reachouts except for the people who want to take over this building And it's um like I said I'm not opposed to it but
it just I I really feel like with the ringorm and the um I I learned some things about the drains Do you know if the building has individual drains or like a a trough type drain for the kennels
has both Both Okay So learning about um you know parvo situations if if one of the animals gets parvo any dogs along those um drains would have to get put down because of the nature of that disease And so that's really concerning
So I don't know if that is part of the renovations that they would have to get rid of those drains and only have the individual drains on the um on in the kennels So Commissioner um right now that wasn't necessarily something contemplated but if the board
decides to move forward with this we were requesting revisions to the draft uh request for proposal We could make sure they identify or address how they would overcome that whether that's removal or some other mitigation Okay Thank you
Uh Commissioner Good we're still in discussion Is that correct yes sir Okay I have nothing at this time I have a motion to make though when you get ready Okay Any further discussion i I'll just share a couple of thoughts Um you know just when I go down to Road and Bridge
um in in my district um it has over the years been surrounded by city of Melbourne So they they have that challenge that we had to enter into an agreement with Melbourne uh right to hook up to new water So you know these
these things happen And so in the future just just thinking about the kind of needs up there if you ended up with the property and I think the worst you know that would happen if uh we demolish the building is that you're going to end up
with uh more space to store more equipment in the future and you might not need it That would be uh in the worst the worst in my in my mind So um Commissioner Goodson I guess we'll
entertain your motion sir Okay Uh the motion would be that we uh allow the county to demo the building and the attorney to work with the city of of Titusville and we keep it as our property to further need or either at a time we wish to sell it or lease it I
second that Okay We have a motion by Commissioner Goodson We have a second by Commissioner Atkinson Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner
Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner yes Commissioners will show that passes 5-0 Thank you for that We will move into um I3 Uh Frank Yeah Can I sir thank you
Commissioner Uh this is for the confirmation of Tad Caukins as an assistant county manager of the development and environmental services Mr Caukins has excuse me 30 years experience in planning and development
um uh 10 with Oyola County the last 20 with Bvard County He's performed very well as a department director for the last eight years And so I believe he's uh he's well prepared to take on the position of assistant county manager of
that group Commissioners are there questions i I have one You have a question not a question but just a statement Are there any questions okay I don't think we have any cards We'll go into
discussion and Commissioner Delaney I just wanted to say um to Tad and Billy thank you so much for allowing me to um make you guys public Um I just really feel like especially in our director positions um you know the community
should know about it and um sometimes on the consent agenda it gets it gets hidden So I just want to say thank you for all the help you've given me over this time And um I uh I also thank you for you know being so uh kind and being
okay with uh me making this so public So thank you Okay we have a is there a motion to confirm i would happily make the motion Okay we have commission We have a motion by Commissioner Atinson We have a second by Commissioner Goodson Clerk will call the role
Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner yes Tad congratulations to you sir We appreciate your many
years Thank you board Hope it's everything you've dreamed [Laughter] of Okay Uh let's go to I4 Okay Frank Thank you Um I4 we now have the planning
and development department director position and I'm asking for the confirmation of Billy Prasad as the planning and development department uh director Uh he has served in the capacity of deputy director since November of 2023
Prior to that he served as a year as the strategic operations manager in in that department He has his law degree from Stson and he's been a successful participant and advocate for the executive leadership institute as well
as lean six sigma green belt he's uh participated in the department and helping them um achieve some uh significant uh improvements in how they operate uh through participation as leading and then as members on various
projects most recently as sponsoring some of those projects So we're looking for confirmation of Mr Prasad Okay commissioners we do have one card Are there questions no questions Okay Sandra Sullivan
Good evening Sandra Sullivan South Patrick Shores So I have some heartburn on this one because uh Mr Prasad comes from uh Tobaya's office with all the controversies and investigation on that office and in particular on uh some of
the items coming forward I have objected to the conversion of intensity use of properties in live local to a what that would represent in terms of density There's no such thing as conversion But it's kind of interesting after pushing
back He goes "Oh yeah I have documents to support this." So he provides it to me He doesn't And come to find out this legislative session it looks like they're going to approve that So isn't that interesting so I'm just wondering if there's any puppeteers behind the
scenes Thank you Okay that was the only card that we had on that item Is there any discussion i know Billy to be an amazing uh human being and I worked with his wife uh Bethany uh her first real job uh
when we both worked for Representative Workman So I've known them both a long time Uh commissioners any other discussion on this item commissioner Atkinson so I just wanted to say for those of you who don't know him being a brand new commissioner and sitting with
him with constituents talking about things that I have very little understanding you have been a great teacher but you've also been a really amazing advocate for the people who've come into my office looking for help So I appreciate everything you do for the residents to
help them get what they what they need So thank you Okay Is there a motion on move to approve we have a motion by Commissioner Delaney We have a second by Commissioner Alman Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair
Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner yes Congratulations sir Okay commissioners we're going to move on to item I5 Um this is my item And so
um we we're certainly open to discussion on interim county manager Um are there questions on this we don't have any cards We'll go into discussion Is there
discussion on this item if you wouldn't mind uh Commissioner Felner I'd love to hear hear you since this is your item I was just wondering what what your thoughts were on this Uh what I'm prepared to do tonight is uh
make a motion for Jim Leenfeld um he's worked for the county uh for many years and we're going to we're going through a phase of transition here from Frank's leadership to
uh going through a county manager search and I think continuity is good and so I think Jim is the right guy He has my full confidence and I think we should confirm him tonight as the interim county manager If that is actually a
motion I would second it If we're done in discussion I'll I'll make that a motion and I will second it Okay that's we'll take that as the motion And we have a second by Commissioner Atkinson Clerk will call
the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felton yes Jim We're going to go through some uh some tough things together but I know
you're very capable Thank you Congratulations We applaud you sir I hope you're ready for us Thank you I know you had some thoughts Did you want to say anything on that no If you if you indulge me because uh some of the staff
wrote some of the thoughts So but no I I put in you know Boulevard County is my home My wife is a public school teacher but public service is pretty important to our family We raised our kids here so we'll do whatever we need We're happy to do whatever the county needs us to do I do want to put in you know Frank's been a great leader and accomplished many
great things And with the leadership we have out there and our staff we'll continue doing a tremendous job for the board for the community and for the county as we go through the selection process Thank you sir We appreciate that very much Commissioners we're going to move on to I6 This going to be an open
discussion on the county manager selection process We gave you some information at a prior meeting about how the board uh approached this in 2017 um
sort of as a a guide for you So um we do have one card on this issue but let's do questions first Are there are there questions on the selection process anyone in questions i have a question No Okay Well let's go
to the card That's okay I didn't know You have a You have a question no Okay Sandra Sullivan I don't understand this So you haven't had a discussion yet about this so it's hard to for me to come up here and
comment but General Sandra Sullivan South Patrick Shores I' I'd like to see this uh as broad as possible Select the best candidate and not to artificially limit it to the county I saw the article in the paper um and that just raised my
hackles to no end uh we need the best person for this job And certainly there's a lot of concerns uh with the degree of malfeasants and um uh issues that have been going on in Bvard for too long that frankly need to be cleaned up
and maybe somebody from outside the area might be good to do that Um but it just makes sense to have take the best person not to artificially limit it to somebody locally And I'll just say for the record the one person that I absolutely do not want to see as even being considered for
this job is what I call Boot Barker from from Satellite Beach We do not need that She was she was there as one of the facilitators of the whole NBED steel and a lot of other uh unsavory things that have gone on in Bvard County And uh so
I'll just leave it at that Okay Thank you Commissioners in discussion Commissioner Delaney Um so I actually have a little bit of experience um in a similar search Uh I as you all
know I was very involved in the in the school board and um was extremely involved and had a lot of input um throughout the entire process that they had finding a new superintendent And I figured that's pretty similar to what um
we're do doing here today um or what we're doing in this search for county manager And um the process that they went through was just so extensive Um they went for a national search They um
had extensive interviews with people loads of citizen input Um by the time it whittleled down to I believe it was the top five um each of the schoolboard members got individual time with with
each of the applicants Um but throughout the entire process the school board was um the selection committee and I really feel passionately that the five of us um should have equal input into this um
into this process and uh even from dwindling down the even you know let's say we get a 100 applicants even dwindling down to the 50 to the to the 10 to the five to the whatever we decide
as the dwindle down numbers I really just feel like we um should all have opportunity to participate in that and have an equal voice in that Um and I really feel passionately about a
national search because one of the things that I um spoke about when I when I got sworn in was one of my main missions was to build the public trust and somebody you know from BVAR County may be our next county manager We don't know We haven't decided yet Um but one
of the ways that we can work on building that public trust is by saying "We went through the most extensive um process and the most fair and open process and we know without a shadow of a doubt that this person is the best
person for the job." And so that's my pitch I think you said it very well Thank you Okay other uh in in discussion other other thoughts This is a this is an open discussion We're gonna we're going to
need to u agree on some some things here So looking for input I have a question for staff What is the cost difference from a local to a a national search do we have any idea
it would be fairly minimal though except for maybe travel costs bringing people in Do we have any other follow-up questions uh the idea of uh a consultant
uh that would help us um to through this process Is that is that some commissioner so you want to speak to that sure Yes I would I I think that that's what we were kind of talking about tonight was to go through a consultant um and we would at least in
my mind what my thoughts would be is that we would meet with the consultant in some sort of fashion I'm not sure with Sunshine if it has to be a public meeting or what or workshop or whatever that has to look like but that we could meet with the consultant and kind of
share all of us our our hopes and thoughts and everything else for the process And um at that point the consultant would work their magic put out the search with our parameters and you know then they'd give us back the
results Okay I mean I think if we met together as a board with a consultant we would have to do uh some kind of workshop Um if you were meeting one on one I'm sure at some point they're going to come to your office and uh you know
for followup and I have other questions etc Um I think that's a different thing but uh certainly not opposed to roundt discussion with uh a consultant Let me ask during this prior I think some municipalities have been through this um
recently You mentioned the school board Are are there certain items from that that you think were good or you like better than others well I loved the fact that we had um a
citizen uh basically like an a open house um that the citizens got to come in they got to meet the finalists they got to talk to them and um it was really great because then the citizens were able to
give their input back to the board and uh it just was really communitydriven Um and I really loved that that fact And the other thing um that's in this proposal that we were given at the last meeting it says um and
this is just really a tiny thing six copies of the proposal If we could just make sure that it's electronic also that the um you know that that way it has the most visibility for the um for the residents
Okay Well we'll make note of that So maybe Frank how would how do we start the process with a consultant guiding us through this well we've given you a draft of what was utilized the last time Hopefully we were looking to see if the
board was comfortable with the the selection um criteria which uh looked at um the evaluation criteria looking at qual quality and thoroughess of the proposal which was 10% uh qualification
experience and workload was 30 and there's a variety of bullets that were under that scope of the work how they were going to do it the methodology that they would use which would address some of the issues that you just raised in terms of meeting individually with commissioners meeting with the public
coming back and and showing you um how they were going to advertise it get the board's thumbs up on that and then move forward with the advertising They would screen As a matter of fact the last time as I recall it um as best as I can um the board had full participation in
determining who's going to be on there As a matter of fact the board uh left it upon themselves that any commissioner could add someone even if they weren't on the uh uh the list that was recommended by the consultant so that you could do that Of course it would come back to the board for a vote and
then you would screen down from there and that would all be open in the public and it would be the board making the decision of you know who ultimately to interview So if the board is comfortable with that we can put that together And
um I believe the last time we had uh the HR director the uh um the county attorney and perhaps and and also a uh um a commissioner appointed by the board to serve on this screening committee
that would evaluate the consultants uh responses to the RFP Um and that would bring it back to the board to select who you wanted to move forward with And we would I would suggest we jump on it We'll try to get you that Um I I'm sorry
to interrupt I think that um that that's the part that I felt a little uncomfortable with Um I really if I'm if I'm hearing you right um I I would rather go through a um a workshop with the consultant with
the five of us versus having a subcommittee bring us recommendations or is this just for the consult i'm talking about the selection of the consultant The the other process is going to be it's all going to come to the board So yes Okay I just want to make sure that
Thank you And plus that's the committee for the selection of the consultant is only going to evaluate the RFPs and then come back to the board with a recommendation The full board the one if you choose to have the one commissioner serve on it would come back and say this
is who we've uh we're going to recommend and the full board will make the decision as to who the consultant is Okay So could we do this tonight could we direct staff to put together that proposal of of of what we would go out
and do the RFP for for the consultant we'll bring it back here the next meeting We can amend it We'll discuss it We'll amend it as necessary Okay So we'll we'll start with uh that tonight So uh sound good Okay we can then hold
on the consultants on board you go the criteria for the process that you're going to utilize whether it's a national search whatever okay all right commissioners based on that um and um
are you moving that's your motion I I'll make that motion that that that's what we're going to uh proceed with okay I'll second that Okay So Commission uh So I make the motion Commissioner Goodson seconds Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair
Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felton yes Commissioners will show that passes 5-0 Thank you for that tonight Um let's Yeah I I was getting there too Okay so we're Let's take a five minute um break
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maintenance map for a portion of Irwin Avenue in Mims in District 1 Uh these portions um have been uh supported by maintenance logs back to 1972 uh by public works where we've maintained approximately 50 ft or more Um and so
the purpose of filing the maintenance map is to really just enumerate and document what the county already owns uh by uh fe simple ownership based on Florida statute 95.361 Um this is not necessarily uh or
this is not an opportunity or a referendum on the um project itself This is tied to a development known as Orchard View Subdivision Uh if the if this moves forward uh the developer is
going to uh pave a section in front of their frontage and it remains uh and will remain uh county maintained right away Okay Commissioners questions Are there any questions on the
item i don't have any cards Discussion Um so this unfortunately was a development that was passed a long time ago in the mid to late 2000s Um every
single piece of this development is done ready the cake is baked unfortunately Um and uh so this is a necessary thing that we have to do Um it goes against everything
that I you know want Um but unfortunately it's it's what we have to do So with that I would um if there's no other discussion I would like to make a mo motion to pass Anyone else need anything
on this no We have a motion by Commissioner Delaney Is there a second okay Uh I will second We need to do this right okay I I will second Clerk will call the role
Commissioner Delaney yes Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner yes Okay we'll show that passes 5-0 Thank you Okay commissioners we will go to you know
what let's do uh J3 because I think that's probably quicker We don't have any cards on that We have a lot of cards on J2 So this is my item I'll say quickly this is a uh duplication of services We have a
lobbyist That's Ron Book We don't need uh to pay the five lobbyists at FAC Um it's $68,500 approximately and um my motion would be that we would move that instead over to
fire rescue So uh are there questions commissioner Delaney do you have a question i have discussion Okay Anyone any other questions okay We don't have any cards in discussion So I'm I
um I feel a little uh pulled in each direction for this one because um I don't always typically agree with the uh direction of this organization nor the League of Cities
Um I I think that there's a lot of influence from the global community on those organizations and organizations like it Um but my hope was being um since I was
put on this board my I haven't gotten to participate yet because they haven't had any meetings yet Um my hope was to find other like-minded people to um you know go up and fight with a
bigger voice to Tallahassee um against some of these home rule violations that are going on Um I I feel like this has a different operation than uh our lobbyist because
our lobbyist is not going to Tallahassee to push back against home rule um or the violation of home rule there He's not going up there and pushing back on legislation um that is going through and at least
not that I know of Um so I think that it's it has some value Our county hasn't uh participated in this for a long time and now we finally have a commissioner
who's willing to put the time in Um so my hope would be that we could give us a short opportunity to um to see if there's any value since I'm willing to do the participation
um and come back to this at a later time I could bring a um a report back and I could say you know these are after you know participating these are my findings um and give a recommendation to the
board about uh you know if we should continue or not anyone sir if you know anything about Tallahassee and you know anything about this organization uh they will tell you anything you want to hear if in Tallahassee If you want to
know anything about home rule or you want to fight home rule you need to be calling your local legislators looking at where they get their money from pulling up their money and you'll see exactly why they vote and exactly how they vote Therefore you might be able to
do something with them Your local legal cities and association of counties um are they going to do anything to help Bvard uh I'm not too sure that you could comment on that Now you can go up there and spend a lot of time I would suggest you go on the days they have their
parties A lot more fun you know if you go those days I um I've I've spent a lot of time actually in Tallahassee um through my years of advocacy with um issues like parental rights and different schoolboard issues um second amendment
issues all sorts of things And so I I understand the hustle and bustle of what it takes to get a bill through um the legislature I uh spearheaded the movement to get the recall of schoolboard members um included not only
in our county charter but in our uh state constitution So that took two years of hard work and working with our local state reps Shout out to um state rep Soy and now Congressman Randy Fine um for helping you know with that with
that mission and um you know so I I I understand it's a lot of hard work What I'm saying is I'm willing to put in the hard work Commissioner Alman in discussion sir I think um this organization as well as the national association has a great
deal of value It's an opportunity for u county commissioners to come together and share ideas to learn to work together They don't always agree Sometimes they disagree Uh but that's
beneficial too to see uh some some of the divergent thought and to understand where they're coming from But I found it to be a a great learning experience When I was a freshman member I I've really learned a lot and got a lot of ideas
organizations do um one of the areas is um through model legislation and um I I just think they have a lot of value I think for the for the time that money that we spend it's a great investment and I think we're very fortunate to have a commissioner who's willing to put in
the time Um I think um could pay great dividends So I I would oppose removing from these organizations I I gosh we have an issue we talked about tonight uh finding a new county administrator There's there a lot of resources there
in these organizations state and national to help um find u qualified staff So I I understand where you're coming from but I I I do think the organization has a a lot of benefit
Sir I would I would also suggest to you though that we are compulsory members of the Eastern Florida Regional Planning um association We pay them $130,000 uh with that's mandated by the
legislature So we don't have a choice in that I would be doing this same motion if I had that opportunity and I don't but I do have the opportunity on this one because it's not compulsory So is there other discussion on this
item okay I will make a motion that uh that we um move the $68,57 to fire rescue and that we end our
u participation in Florida Association of Counties Second Okay There's a second by Commissioner Goodson Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney No Vice Chair Goodson Yes Commissioner Atkinson Yes Commissioner Alman No
Chairman Felner Yes Commissioners will show that passes 32 Thank you Okay J2 If if I could I um just wanted to um ask for a point of order Um
Commissioner uh Felner I'm I'm curious as to you've made a lot of motions tonight and as chair it hasn't been precedent for you for the chair to do that and so I'm wondering what is the what's the change the the chair can make motions and second
there's there is no rule against that Um I haven't done that as chair Uh but tonight on some of these issues I I think it's important to move them forward because in the past you've you've said on the dis that you don't feel comfortable with doing that and that
you're not um you know that that's not something you're going to be doing So I'm just uh you know surprised That's all I I think we're in some difficult times and um we're we we need to move some things along So um I've said what I
needed to on the Association of Counties Um I think the better use for that U So I appre I appreciate what you're saying but there is there is no rule against the the chair making a motion Okay Item J2 Commissioner Atinson you're
recognized Thank you Um if I may could I ask our county attorney to just give a little bit of history on how um and beds came to be and and what it is if you don't mind Morris Uh yes Commissioner Um the North Bard Economic Development Zone
um sometimes called inbeds or the zone was created in 2011 by the board of county commissioners primarily through two ordinances is the first ordinance created a trust fund and um a tax
increment funding source and a subsequent ordinance created a structure of governance um for a board uh that would manage it uh inbeds is a special a what's known as a dependent special district of the county meaning it's a
creation of Bvard County it uh was created by the board of county commissioners it can be dissolved by the board of county commissioners by ordinance Um there are it is a cooperative organization with the city of Titusville Um because
inbeds also includes the corporate boundaries of the city of Titusville Titusville appoints members to the inbeds board There's an interlocal agreement between Bvard County and the city of Titusville And the city of Titusville has implemented its own uh
tax increment funding and contributes to a trust fund uh revenues generated within the city as well for the economic development mission of inbeds Um back when it was created it was in the wake of NASA's space shuttle program and the
principal goal was facilitating job growth and economic development in the north portion of Bvard County after the end of the space shuttle program Okay thank you Okay we have Troy here tonight too If we have questions for him uh do are there questions
comm Commissioner Delaney for a question While Troy's getting um to a seat I'll ask Commissioner um Atkinson Um first of all I wanted to say thank you so much for finding sacrifices for District 1 Um and I was wondering do you have any
sacrifices in your own district that you've thought about so you're very welcome Um at the moment no I'm going through the different programs that have been
brought to my attention Um my job right now as I see it is to figure out how to help get the money for the crisis that we now have which is fire rescue We need recurring money and that's what this is It doesn't mean that NBEDs is going away
because as our attorney said Titusville will be able to still continue their portion should they choose to do so For Titusville um what's interesting to me is how successful ENBZ has been Uh as I understand it and Troy please correct me
if I'm if I'm wrong um the unemployment in Titusville is down 744% from when the shuttle crisis originally happened And that's significant And that shows that the project did its job in that crisis Right now we are having another
crisis and I am suggesting that we move money from one crisis to another Um Bvard County residents all pay in this Also I understand that the Milin Institute has decided that now
we rank ninth when we used to be 177th when this was um first created There's lots of redundancy in this right we have our chambers of commerce We have um the EDC Even the TDC
to some degree brings as much as they can to the area So with SpaceX with Blue Origin um with Space Florida I believe that right now is a it's a it's a time that we need to
decide how we're going to redistribute taxpayer funds to the current crisis at hand Were you saying that the entire county pays into NBEDs what I'm saying is that it's taxpayer money I'm
sorry Are you saying that the entire If you could answer my question why don't we let staff answer that question they're they're something that you said So that's why I'm asking I said it's taxpayer money No you said the entire county Um and
just because I know the answer to that it's only the it's only the properties within the zone um that pay into this Is that correct Troy um so I will try to answer that but I
will tell you that I am very uh eager not to make a misstep that could be interpreted as advocacy for the zone I'm here merely try to answer questions as factually as I can and let the the county commission decide But the way in which our tiff structure is uh we get a
portion of the valuation and property taxes in the north end the specified geographic area that is the special district So thank you And um one of the things you also said was
that it's redundant And um so were you aware that one of the major um missions of the North Bard economic zone was to deal with uh redevelopment and blighted areas
Let me say this The the county commission's job is not necessarily um economic development Really safety is one of our core priorities I agree And so that's where I am saying that this
money needs to go to that's all If you could just answer my question Were you aware of that that one of the core missions is to deal with redevelopment and blight Commissioner I think she answered your question She didn't Yes or no is the answer
She gave she gave an answer It might not be the one that you want but if we could go on to the other ones we have several cards If you don't mind um is is that true is that one of the the core functions of the North Bard economic development zone so in the plan the
strategic plan that was approved by both the city council of Titusville and the Bvard County Commission back in 2012 it does include a redevelopment component and infrastructure right and under the strategic initiative section of that plan we could do infrastructure
improvement projects Thank you Okay I'm done with questions for now Thank you Are there other questions other questions sorry we'll go to the court I have a question Okay Commissioner didn't you ran on killing in beds when you ran for election correct
so it started out that way and through So you've changed your mind So if I can finish my answer Sure You've changed your mind right if I could finish my answer Yeah Answer Yes or no my answer is is yes When I didn't when I wasn't fully informed I advocated for the dissolution
of NBEDS Once I met with our executive director Mr post Um my opinion changed and I actually made a video um and it's on my campaign page still um that residents have actually shared recently
and it talked about how I felt that this was a a secret that the special interests have used this money over time and that's why um you know and I felt and I said this in that video I felt that this needed to be redirected to
focus on small businesses redevelopment um and and the great things that um Troy and his team are doing now And so like everything um we grow and learn
Okay And so um you know so Excuse me Go ahead Sure Go ahead So you're for it now Is that a correct statement well it depends H It really depends because if we're talking about um if we're talking about
um you know because what NBEDS really is is a combination of a CRA and an economic development um committee That's that's pretty much what what NBEDs is It's both it's both entities in one And if we're talking about um you know
getting rid of economic development and growth in North Bard and getting rid of the um entity that is going to help with redevelopment um I would not be for that especially if we are not looking at this as a county
as a whole because as a county as a whole we can actually fix the firefighter issue with the 12 plus million um the $7.3 million that you all get to enjoy in your districts So why is district one this
here's a question for you Why is district one bearing the brunt of this issue and where was your input fellow commissioners in funding our fire department
qu um chairman So go ahead Uh well District One isn't bearing the brunt of it because uh the park Where's Myra on here hang on Hang on Okay cuz some of your district
one is in district two paying the bill and the money is coming from the general fund which is the total county but it comes from the businesses in in the economic development zone in the boundary But don't say dis excuse me
chair Yes sir Don't say district one because district two has the uh exploration park over there which is the biggest u biggest thing that's in district two I agree with you So don't just limit it to district one then Okay It is just
district one because you still have you district two is involved in it Madam I understand So it's not just district one If you could let me understand or let me explain explain this District 2 has a
total of $5.2 million in CRAAS including Myra So where is that on this agenda item district 3 and five had $1.7 million in their CRAAS Where is that item on this
well I guess like district one since it's the culprit of everything and it's the who's who of the world Uh Myra funds the bridge repair on Merit Island Mila funds infrastructure Mila funds road building Mila Mila Myra funds the clean
up on State Road 3 there far So everybody's doing their part but it's not just your ball game It's our ball game Okay Well then I would like some participation from the hour Let's add this thing up to $12 million then and really fund our fire department Okay we
were on questions We do we do have several cards I think we should go to the cards and and then uh we can discuss it uh further So let's let's do the cards Jack Rderman Good evening My name is Jack Rderman I live on North Merit Island I'm part of
the North Merit Island HOA I'm on uh the North Merit Island Special District Board and I was on the Myra board So when you talk about Myra Myra is the only thing good happening on Merit Island Everybody else has a city and Merit Island is the stepchild of the
whole county We put in the major amount of money into the county cauldron and we get the lease back You show me what Merit Island gets back that the rest of you you already have We don't have a community center Where's our community center we didn't get one That's because
you people all got a city working for somebody in there The only people we have working for us is Myra And the only reason we got an amphitheater is because Myra stepped in and and used all the influence they could get Debbie Mayfield
and Tyler Soy stepped in and they brought the money in there That's the only reason we got it And as far as this inbedz stuff it's a rip We're We're going to support the two richest people on Earth You know help them put a a a
spaceship up Help them do what they're already going to put in $7 million worth of of fill and they're already going to flood North Be Island They're the worst neighbors we have We already know from past board meetings
that they want us to build a septic system Okay you can improve yours to the tune of $130 million and we don't want to pay for none of it However if NASA or base SpaceX built theirs it would be $350 million So they're getting a heck
of a deal And then inb what do they do i don't see anything Uh economic development I would like to see who was employed You're you're saying that unemployment went down Well who got employed where are the figures i don't
hear anything about that You could say you know uh anybody got employed what was it you make an intelligent and smart decision You want to put some money in the fire department budget Then X these guys out Do what you're supposed to You
know think about the firefighters What is inbed they're you gonna call them to put the fire out or or get you off the couch after you have a heart attack good luck Thank you sir Aaron McDaniel Thank you commissioners Uh Air
McDaniel I'm I'm here to um give you my experience with embeds Uh I've worked in Bvard County for over 20 years I served as as the engineer for the Titusville Cocoa Airport Authority I've uh served on a team with Space Florida and others
to try to coax space uh command from the Space Force to come to North Bard I um come to you with those experiences I'm also a service disabled veteran and a small business owner I also employ employees here in North Bard County and
South Bard County Um I come to you just to share that experience that in in my time working with inbeds I have seen a very positive experience I think on a macro level um some of the difficulties
we had when we were working with Space Force on the team that the governor put together was that there wasn't good share of information about North Bard about the emergency services that are offered about the uh capabilities of
utilities and other things like that and the zone actually helped um with our team to kind of put some information together so that we could bring u those kind of macro business opportunities to North Bard Um at a more micro level I
can share my experience Uh we are a general contracting firm Actually I just started a second business doing electrical service work and plumbing work Um my story is that uh really specifically with the
uh valiant air command project that the inbeds is helping to fund Uh my business has been able to hire local employees and really get off the ground and I you know have uh uh the valiant air command and and inbeds and others that put money
into this to thank for that Um I'd also say that you know there are many other small businesses in the North Bard area Uh I would tell you to go look through the the area of of North Bard and where the zones at And there are several other businesses that have had gotten grants
from NBEDs and and really done quite well because of that opportunity So that's just my humble way of sharing my story and why I think that NBEDs has served a purpose Thank you sir Thank you Thank you Janice Scott Janice Scott Cocoa Beach I uh as
you know Cocoa Beach had a referendum the people made it uh important that they the city had to vote on whether or not they wanted a CRA We'll talk about the special district It's the same thing I looked at the map It the uh special
district goes from State Road 528 all the way to Mims from the Atlantic Ocean west to Orange County Th this is obscene really We are a county Why are certain people given these kinds
of privileges i understand when the shuttle program wound down and everything there was an issue That's no longer an issue These things need to sunset As a matter of fact while I was sitting here I Googled um a Florida
initiative that uh states that and I'll read it to you In Florida Community Redevelopment Agency CRAAS are set to be phased out by exist uh by July 1st 2025 or September
30th 2045 whichever comes first and are prohibited from starting new projects or issuing new debt after October 25 blah blah blah You know what the history of CRAAS this was an initiative back in the
day uh when Koko was called Little Vietnam It has been very successful there It's so successful they need to sunset You know every time taxes are abated for one somebody else two or
three get to pick up the the the bill And that is not fair to the rest of the residents of Bvard Um I understand the that Merit Island why why they are upset because they're included in the district
but they barely get the trickle down And so uh you know really you the vote needs to be to eliminate ENBZ We need to do that all over the state I'm all for you If you know the
companies that are there United Space Allian allowance Blue Origin SpaceX come on give me a break If one disclosure that's never asked and you all weren't on the board in 2011 but it who are the
shareholders who are the elected officials now that may have shares in SpaceX or Blue Origin or something that are voting on these things give me a break Please eliminate it Thank you
Thank you Mary Watkins Whoever thought we'd have this kind of moment Mary Thank you We went to school together I am Mary Watkins I have two properties on North Merit Island and I am a
lifelong resident of Bvard County having been born before NASA developed I have watched collapse of the missile industry when the Apollo went
away I understand the initiative here and yes we did need to do something for the economic but that was according to the records that I'm hearing
2011 It is now 2025 I believe it's time that money went other places and not continued to be passed around to additional sources like that If the money needs it for the fire
department let's put it there Thank you Thank you Mary Senator Sullivan Sandra Sullivan South Patrick Shores This binder is from the Bvard Coalition from back in the day Wealth of information Encourage you to go to waves action I've been posting some of it
There's a lot more to come Fundamentally uh this NBEDS was created as an enterprise zone That was a promise It's not Enterprise zones are governed by Florida statute It's not listed as an enterprise zone Is a bait and switch It's basically a CRA
Um so the concern by the Bvard coalition was fundamentally that the monies going from district one would end up so you're taking that out of the general fund that the other districts would end up picking up that tab picking up the monies that
needed for the services in district one that's come true Um so the core issue as people said was the recovery of the shuttle program by Florida statute you have to do a findings of need that has been fulfilled
We don't need ENBs anymore And in fact if you want to address the affordable housing issue in keeping affordable you need to keep taxes down To keep taxes down you need to keep the money in general fund
Um I want to just also say that um the one thing that would be really great right now is to doge it to have people look at I've looked at the projects Um I'm looking at projects and I see some some of these have not
succeeded Um one of the big issues of the Bvard Coalition was the conflicts of interest and board member the board commissioners appointing business partners and that was very well detailed
out Um another issue this is back in 2011 the tax increment broken down the CRAAS by district So 40% at that time was district two the amount of the CRAAS for the entire county
uh is about the same as what was going to ends So you know one of the things we saw in the past was some fiscal analysis and I think that would be good you know when you're coming up here to that there is presentations
um this was very controversial back in 2011 there were 51 speakers and it marginally passes two three vote they are selling county land which you know when you do that you need a supermajority vote so by state statute there's a question that this may have
needed to be a super majority vote because his board is selling um county land Um also the biggest controversy with NBEDs is that they immediately did bond funding with the space coast infrastructure agency which they created
and then they bonded for Blue Origin which uh clerk of court sued and won NBEDs is full of controversies from the day one it's time to sunset this and let's show that um you know put put things back where they should be because
this is not a critical need anymore and our fire department is Thank you Thank you Thank you Sarah Hodgej I think everything's been said by Sandra and several other people that have spoken against us keeping in beds Uh my
husband Bill Hajj and Sarah Hajj would like to see it sunset and go and the money go to the firefighters They desperately need it We need to start doing needs before wants Thank you Thank you
Okay Twan Lei Twan Lee Sir sorry if I didn't get that right Yes Yeah you have it right Thank you Um my name and uh I'm a small business owner from engineering to restaurant and uh
property redevelopment and um I'm going to speak out the truth about the uh end uh and nbed Um I have a good experience in the past like five years ago and I don't have a good experience four years ago I
have to blame it on the formal uh commissioner district one because I don't think uh they doing a good job but um no um no revor um economic development has done a good um for small business but in the past few years it
has been focused more in um big company that's not what I want because big company if you focus on big company like blue o spaceex you are benefited investor in our state in different place and even you they create job here that's
mean people from our state bring a job here I mean people from outside apply a job here not locally here because small business people here we're working hard and try to give a job and opportunity to local people so the um I believe because
I'm here today because um um Miss Denny staff had called me and asked me about what I think about the small business and I think she she care for small businesses which a good thing because let me give an example after the co
Tysonisville had received $5 million and that's money is going to um Paris I mean the Paris hospital at the same time 10 other local business had to be closed with that $5 million they can save more than 20 or 30 small business instead of
benefit for the people who work there and stuff like So let me get back to small business because right now as when you start a business it's really hard to start a small business and the requirement from EDC is very tough for small business to
comp to to to comply and then on top of that if you are a redevelopment and you want to get money from the bank the bank want you to have at least 10% of cash in hand instead of give you the fund So if the ED I mean um the NOC revoric um
economic development change the way of do the business work with the Lenny I believe on her right now because she's the one who convinced me to be here today So I think she can do something to help the the district one and to to um help the small business in the area to
grow and save the small business because I closed more than five business after the co because I don't get the support from EDC I don't get a support from county I don't get the support from the city And this really ridiculous that the way that um politics people done for the
small business Instead of care small business you guys care for a big company and make yourself look good when you tell the voter to that you bring a big company here and you forget about small business And I think this needs to be this need to be changed And you know I
want the no revor economic de development to um revise it and work together and I believe on uh Miss Denny that what he um what's he tried to do Thank you Thank thank you sir David Shores Shokes
Is it Shores or Sh sorry Shores Okay Uh hello folks Uh my name is David Shores I'm a on the board of directors of the Warbert Air Museum in Titusville And we are in the process of building a 20,000 foot event hanger
which will be tremendously beneficial to all of BVAR County particularly North Bard uh for weddings and displaying airplanes and all kinds of events This project never would have gotten off the ground without Troy Post and the North
Pard develop economic development zone Without their funding we never would have been able to start the project We are employing a lot of people The people who are building it are employing a lot of people And all the studies we did to prove that this was a good idea say that
the county and the state and us will do very well financially throughout the year because this uh property will will exist So we're very in favor of North River Economic Development Authority and
we think Troy Post has done a great job Thank you sir Thank you Questions thanks All right commissioners in discussion A lot of um people talked about um the
influence on NBEDs on uh the space industry and while it was heavily um focused on the space industry in the past what I've seen throughout my time as commissioner is um a major shift in focus And like one of the speakers
talked about one of the major shifts is that we um a lot of the focus has been on getting these small businesses going Um one of the struggles that District 1 has that you know some of some of you
may not understand is that we have the most amount of wetlands in North Bard We also have I would I would guess probably the most amount of undeveloped land in North Bard And when companies are
deciding on where to go um they look at are there site ready places because companies they're they're thinking of their bottom line They're thinking of how quick can I get in there and start making money And when we have um some of
the reason why North Bard has trouble with enticing businesses is because of those challenges Um some of the things that Troy and his team have done Um for instance there's a a site that is going through right now
that um is on Highway 50 which is one of the main thorough affairs in Titusville Um there is a there was a lot that had a blighted building right across the street from Publix and um when the
owners of the property went to go develop the land they found that their $200,000 project is now turning into hundred or a million-doll project because they found huge chunks of concrete um construction debris all
sorts of things So this simple project of just tearing up the land so that they could pour their pads for their businesses turned into this huge monster of a project and thankfully they came to the North Bard economic development zone for help and so that way their project
is able to continue and um there's there's so many things good things that that we are now doing and I can't you know speak to the things that happened in the past I wasn't here Frankly I didn't agree with a lot of it
Um but you know there's another project that's going on tonight at the city of Titusville the the Searstown Mall Without the funding of NBEDS that will continue to be a blighted just dilapitated site right in
the heart of Titusville And um we have unique challenges in North Bard that the other districts don't have Um uh Logan if you wouldn't mind um putting
my slides up So if you could go to the first one Um this right here shows this is from the budget pre presentation we just got and this shows all the CRAAS um in the
county and it shows that 7 million 7.3 million and only $350,000 of that goes to North Bard and that's because Titusville has one CRA Contrary to popular belief District
One is a lot bigger than Titusville Um so if we were to get rid of Nbeds that would be our
portion Yes If you could go to the next slide I pulled um data from the clerk's office um since 2010 um the total payments across the county
for all the tiff payments so that includes nbeds that includes CRAAS that includes myra um the total payments are $120 million across the county The total North Bard payments are 34 million and this is
since 2010 The payments did not um start for NBEDs until 2013 All the other districts combined is 86 thou uh 86
million From 2013 um that's when ENBEDs got its first installment Uh I I put together the numbers of this is again from 2013 to present 108 million across the
county North Bard and that's including NBEDs and the CRA um the Titusville CRA um 33 million and all other districts
combined 73 million If you wouldn't mind going to the next slide Thank you If we were to get rid of Nbeds if if everybody could look at that bottom chart it shows that district 2 gets 5.2 million
District 3 and five together get 1.7 million And North Bard district 1 gets 350,000 My request tonight is to remember why we're
here And we represent the citizens of this county And I think that this is an extremely um important decision for us to make And like I said if we're talking about everybody coming to the table and
ponying up I'm right there with you guys $12 million $13 million would make a huge dent in our fire department Huge And with the with the legislation that's probably going to be going through CRAAS aren't even going to be a
thing anyway So I really feel like I'm I'm going to make a motion to table this item so that we can have citizen input on how they want us to proceed with this because I
think that this greatly affects our district um or our county as a whole Um I think that it'll be a huge detriment not only to my district but to the whole county
And I'm asking you to think about you know anytime the the es and flows of the space center happen anytime something happens it's district one that bears the largest brunt of that
I remember in I remember during that time with the um the boarded up houses My mom was a teacher at Space Coast Junior Senior High And one of her students
families the parents were so devastated that they not only shot their children but shot themselves There were people living in the woods It was a horrible horrible
horrible situation for District One And if we're going to be looking at this to take care of our firefighters then let's take care of them Let's do it together as a county and actually make a huge dent
because $3 million is going to do nothing for our people So that's my motion Is there further discussion further discussion Okay Uh I think I think uh
what's happened in the north end of the county in recent years is is pretty amazing Commercial space flight is here and the kind of investment that's going to be made in the north end of the county um will rival um what's uh what
was done in the in the 60s So I I think we're we're at I think we're at at the at the point Well it's it's it's been pretty well advertised Um that that's the situation Um Space Florida the state of Florida the kind of investments that
they're making Uh it's it's in the the billions of dollars Um naturally in district one North County is going to be the the largest beneficiary of that because not not everybody can can live in Vieiraa who's going to be working on
the space program Uh I think uh you have quite a lot of economic growth that's going to be coming to the to north end of the county Um further discussion on the item Is there further discussion
i have a question sir Yep Was there a motion to table to table I'll second that Okay We have a motion to table by Commissioner Delaney We have a second by Commissioner Alman Uh to table Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney
yes Vice Chair Goodson no Commissioner Atkinson no Commissioner Alman yes Chairman Felner no I have a question if um I I was wondering um just
just for the just for the minutes so that everybody is is aware um how exactly do you plan on funding our fire department with $3 million it doesn't fund our fire department with
$3.3 million in addition to the $68,57 tonight I think that we are about a quarter of of the way there with what fire as I think I I understand No 16 million is isn't that
where we're or some I think we're somewhere in that range You help me out here a little bit Uh something like that And so we're we're approaching a quarter of of the way And so I think it's a quarter of the way to what with all due
respect we have not even come to the table for these poor people We have strung them along for months and months and months And now you're coming after my district I I think we we get a quarter of the way
of their ask Uh we have There is no ask there There's nothing on the table right now It's a total different issue It's not a total different issue You guys have made this You guys have made this about the fire department So let's talk about the fire department The fact is is
that our fire department needs to get funded So let's fund them There's $13 million on the table We're we're going to be going through uh this this summer I can I can assure you I this is this is but one step This is this is the first
step So how do we broaden two i think I think it's a good faith effort uh that we are trying we're trying to get there So a try to get there to these people would be 1213 million commissioner $3.3 million I don't think
raising taxes should be the first choice I think the last resort I'm I'm just saying we're we're going to have quite a robust discussion about this uh this summer I can I can you and Commissioner Atkinson had a robust conversation about
this I this Okay All right Is there I'd like to make a motion Okay Okay Just in debate Are we in debate sir go ahead Okay Um I'm I'm going to vote
against uh the motion and I want to talk a little bit why Um I think the North Bard economic development zone provides an incredibly important public purpose Uh North Boulevard is really important to the future of Bvard County and there
is significant infrastructure uh shortfalls in the North Bard region There are cultural needs in the North Bard region It it is important for Bvard as a whole that we try to fill the gap and support what our what our Bvardians
are doing in our county seat Titusville is our county seat and it is um the identity of the space program and I I just think it's important we continue to support them and I I I think the need is still there I do understand the points
that are made but I think good economic development is important to the future of our county as a whole and so I will vote against this motion Okay sir Appreciate that Further further discussion or is there another motion
i'd like to make a motion I move to direct staff to prepare a statement of legislative intent regarding the discontinuation of county tiff payments to the NBEDS trust fund the dissolution of NBEDs and the refunded and the refund of any uncommitted TIFF funds on deposit
in the NBED's trust fund to the respective taxing authorities that contributed those funds including the county So I have a question I I'm asking um Commissioner Felner Commissioner Atinson and Commissioner Goodson are you
guys um willing to speak about the CRAAS in your districts i think we'll have a discussion of CRAAS uh this summer I envision that uh
certainly I think because we're going to go through the budget process I'm asking to get our firefighters paid which is what you guys say you want to do Are you guys willing to put your CRAAS on the table i'm asking you a plain yes or no question I don't have a CRA in in my district I think there's one on the edge
of it that's uh finishing up uh something Commissioner can't speak for the others I would suggest to you that uh we should uh look at uh every funding opportunity that we can this summer when we go through the budget process Is that a yes
i I would look at every funding op option available to us this summer That's that's my answer So I'll let the others answer they choose to I think the public deserves to know the yes or no answer All right I understand we have a motion on the table I'm being
reminded So are you guys refusing to answer that question Commissioner Atinson and Commissioner Goodson for the public for everybody that's watching right now commissioner Delaney we have a motion on the table and I'd like to follow and I'd like to follow procedure Okay we have a motion Is there
a second yes Okay we have a second by Commissioner Goodson The clerk will call So for for discussion because after you make a motion in Robert's rules you can have discussion after a motion is made So again I asked that question
Commissioner Atkinson Commissioner Goodson are you going to tell the public are you willing to put your CRAAS on the table to fund our firefighters no comment So that's a no That's not no it's a no comment The chairman said that
we'll discuss it at a later date did he not is he my boss no We are all duly elected here Thank you Well do you understand English yes I do understand English said and I'm asking you a question and I told you we discussed later time We had a motion and a second
Clerk will call the role Commissioner Delaney no Vice Chair Goodson yes Commissioner Atkinson yes Commissioner Alman no Chairman Felner yes And we'll show that passes
32 All right we will go to public comment I have three cards on public comment Susan Connelly Thank you I'm Susan Connelly I'm from Palm Bay Tonight I want to uh speak on
the SpeakUp Breard program My 2025 SpeakUp Brevard submission called for the creation of a Brevard County Board of Government Efficiency I had no idea when I turned
in my submission that Bvard County already had their Doge Interestingly the county's Doge program is the Speak Up Revard program where each submission is identified by a SEIR
number SEIR being citizen efficiency and effectiveness recommendation By not knowing the complete name nor the purpose of the SpeakUp Revard program it made me realize a couple things First how much I did not know about the unlimited
opportunities of the Speak Up Revard program and second how disconnected citizens are from the very operations and decision-making of our government Since the March 3rd SpeakUp
Revard workshop I have been working with a group of citizens who also share these realizations We have two goals to review the SpeakUp Revard process from a citizen's perspective and provide
actionable recommendations for improvement And second to rework our own SEIR submissions so that our recommendations clearly identify the issue as well as present actionable coste effective solutions
Speak up breard can become a showcase of best practice of efficiency and effectiveness in government operations That was going to be the end of my comments However I would just like to say based
on the discussion I just heard that the question is why cannot businesses economically thrive and I think the speak up program
may hold the answer with efficiency and effectiveness Thank you Thank you ma'am Sandra Sullivan I don't think he did the the G section Okay Sandra Sullivan South Patrick
Shores uh want to talk about the FUDS presentation by the core of engineers tonight It's kind of depressing how much they don't know Um as many of you know uh my group Waves Action I was uh the lady that dug
up all the military waste in her backyard And yes I thank you I did get sick I fell down seven times a day and have been getting uh some medical assistance since that since uh with a lot of neurological issues Um they when
they were asked well do you know what was buried there and they said no we don't know There was a deer a report that was done by our state that was everything from munitions uh to uh chemicals to oil barrels It's
all detailed in there Uh they were asked um so what about the contamination so in 1991 they did a they did a study and they found on Southeast First Street um levels of B um benzene a pyrene and
other really nasty chemicals above the cleanup targets And so u they they cap the wells Um so and a little history about the FUD site So there were 500 applications for formerly used defense
sites back around that time We were the only one of 500 sites denied the FUD's eligibility Um and interestingly we're the only one with a class action suit for a cancer cluster Um there was an EPA
EPIC study which was a study done on on the aerial analysis of what was buried there And we have firsthand accounts of a heavy machinery operator that
um that uh missiles were buried and they are in there are large conical objects uh in in those are aerials So there's actually a lot of data from the 90s um and I was lucky enough to have a local resident give me that When I was doing
the investigation there were four people on Southeast First Street with ALS We have been we are worldrenowned for our levels of ALS which for military bases is largely uh correlated or causation to
the levels of chlorinated substances like triccorinated ethylene and organo chlorine pesticides Um the EPA came into my yard There's a smell in my yard that persists It's not there all the time Uh and the EPA came in and he thought it
might have been benzene apyrene The EPA came in and tested my yard and they found 14 dioxane above the cleanup targets by my bedroom and that level is a tracer chemical for tricclorinated ethylene We're talking about the chemicals that are associated with camp
loun Um the bottom line is the core of engineers has a history of doing their studies to reach an end result of no further action and we've been seven years so far they're coming in to do sample pits They should have done
directional push technology years ago I'm just going to say it's a effort and it's not going to go anywhere And the only way it'll get anywhere in other communities is then when their local government has stepped up and sued the core of engineers in order to get
the results that were necessary Thank you Woody Sweet Lieutenant Woody All right Uh good evening commissioners Uh
Woodyu Vice President Bvard County Professional Firefighters I like you am an elected leader who has sworn an oath uh to those I represent I come before you tonight to demand action concerning the state of public safety here in Bvard We are not facing
the potential of a critical failure but rather we have reached critical failure This is evidenced in our ability inability to handle the 911 medical call load As of two weeks ago we were forced to seek assistance from Coastal Health Systems to help with our staffing and
apparatus deficiencies If you don't know we are very deficient This coupled with the fire chief declaring a public safety crisis and now Commissioner Atinson declaring the same crisis only echoes what the Bvard County professional firefighters has been
telling the county for well over a year You may be hearing from some prominent figures not to listen to the firefighters regarding the state of public safety but this is simply a fraudulent message designed to cause a rift between leadership and the
firefighters paramedics and inspectors To combat the misinformation regarding the firefighters I direct your attention to the email that has been distributed to all five of you commissioners from a neutral third party magistrate detailing his observation of the state of Bvard
County public safety The magistrate's email reveals the fire res that fire rescue has been operating in a spinning deficit He explains his displeasures with the county's stance on this matter as it pertains to the lack of contract with their firefighters and the lack of
appropriate funding required to operate He also advises against waiting for his report and recommendation And he strongly suggests that the county finds a solution as soon as possible to avoid service failure which
we are at You have not listened to his his uh email that he sent you and we have failed We're not almost there anymore We are there Uh while I fully understand that the process of defunding the fire rescue department started well before any of
your times on this commission but this is an inherited problem that you have sworn to fix As Commissioner Felner said tonight we will get this done this summer This is a major error and will cost
lives With that said given the information as the chair of the board of county commissioners will you commit to expedite properly funding fire rescue rather than waiting months for the report and recommendation from the special magistrate so we may may uh
sorry so we may begin the rebuilding process so we can provide the proper service we were sworn to give The lives of the people are at risk Thank you Thank you sir
[Applause] Okay that's the end of public comment Commissioners in board report Frank in board report I have no board report Commissioner Morris in board report New report Mr Chairman Okay Commissioner
Delaney in board report Yes Logan if you wouldn't mind putting my slides up Thank you So we've had a lot going on in D1 Um I was lucky enough to go on a North area parks tour with Mike our
construction um manager and Steve and shout out to them They were amazing so knowledgeable Um just incredible people Um we went all around to the D1 parks uh looking at all the projects that are
being done and um it was really great to uh get a real hands-on understanding as to what's going on up there And um I'm also happy to report because this came up um has come up quite a lot in my
office um that herbicides are not being used in D1 park ponds And so that's really I mean a great thing So um you know the more the more we can cut down on our chemicals and our
waterways the better because it cuts down on our algae blooms and keeps our our water looking great which is not only great for everyone's health um but it's great for our economic development and um you know us flidians we love
being on the water So um I also went to a couple of community meetings in Coco So one uh Councilwoman CS hosted and it was really great to get to speak to the residents in Coco um and hear their
thoughts and concerns and and all of that So that was really great And then I also went to um a community meeting for about the Cityoint um uh development that was on the table and it was great again uh getting to hear from those
residents Uh I also went on a couple of farm tours So um one in the north end of the county and one in the south end And what um so the the farm at the south end I think was 25,000 acres and the one at
the north end is around 70,000 And honestly I'm speechless about what these um families do to uh for preservation for conservation for the
for the well-being of our of our um community um for up in up in North Bard at Farm What they're doing is they're rebuilding a quail habitat to bring the quails back to North Bard which is really cool for
any hunters out there Um that's been gone for a really long time So they're working on that and um that's it's really awesome Um I also went to the canvasing board meeting on uh the special primary
election night and that was really incredible to watch in in action um what what the supervisor of elections does and um how that all how all the magic happens so to speak And uh I'm happy to
report that there were no issues everything Um unfortunately there was not a whole lot of voter turnout but hopefully we can pump those numbers up Um it's really important even in these special elections to um get out there
and get your vote because the more people that vote the more um more the community is represented in their vote So uh also I have been attending the weekly healthc care stakeholder meetings that that the uh
space co space coast health foundation has been hosting So shout out to them and thank you for um organizing those meetings They've been making um great progress as far as bringing us bringing everybody together and getting getting
to a solution Um if you wouldn't Oh thank you Uh the next thing I wanted to talk about was the um ear and the uh area of critical state concern Um at the
November 7th meeting my predecessor stated there would be a new commission here and they might want to have might want to do a workshop and figure out what to do with with all the input and what they want to do moving forward So I would like to bring forward at the next
meeting um a request for a workshop to talk about the update to our comp plan Um because there was a lot of citizen input into this and I really feel like
um there should be more of a conversation around this because there's there was so much citizen um uh people care about this they they want to know what's going on They want to feel like they're heard They want to be part of the conversation And I just really feel
like this is um necessary besides um you know public safety Uh you know this is one of the major major things that we do And so I just wanted to give you guys a heads up that that I'm going to be bringing that forward on the next um next
agenda Um so the Orlando Health Rocklage Regional Hospital um I've received so many uh concerns from citizens from our fire department from
um uh Health First from Parish Medical Center from Rocklage Hospital doctors and nurses Um I just wanted to read a um post that I saw today on Facebook Um it says "Ambulance rushed my sister
to Vieira Hospital from the Port St John Urgent Center because Rocklage is no longer accepting patients She arrived there just after 4 yesterday afternoon and was placed outside in the lobby for at least 6 hours before she got back in terrible pain We're still in the ER
There's no beds available and the waiting time uh the wait the waiting room when we started was told a 2-hour waiting on surgeons to make a decision I highly recommend if you don't need to go to the hospital for non-emergency care
go to a walk-in clinic Um this is insane And I I would have to agree I I'm I um Commissioner Felner you you mentioned um a couple times now that you know there's something big comp coming and
like whatnot And I just I'm speechless in this I mean I know that Coastal um coming on board is a is a band-aid to this um crisis that we're in but it's not um something that I feel like is
sufficient Um I'm also heavily concerned that we were not really part of that decision-making This is a critical massive change to the way that we do business here in Bard County And I just really feel like we should have um had
more board discussion over this Um I'm concerned over the uh over the level of service and I don't know if um Chief if you wouldn't mind coming up I have a question for you So as far as the level of service goes I
understand that the coastal coastal um ambulances are going to show up in non-emergent cases So not not a heart attack not a stroke not like major bleeding or trauma or something like that Um but what about you know god
forbid a kid got into a football accident and they broke their femur what what would that look like so that would actually fall under their trauma alert protocol Okay So that would be one of now we have two helicopters in Bvard County with homes going to the north end
at Tao airport also Um I mean we actually had we've had many calls since then I've only had one call in my career where we've called for two helicopters but crazy enough since we've had two helicopters in Bvard County Uh I know of
two calls where we've actually had to utilize two helicopters Wow And so anything to do and this is just for clarification So um you know I just want to make sure that the public feels comfortable too um with this but um
the anything to do with like growth plates um would that be considered an ALS situation when when our people show up not yeah broken bone any kind of broken bone Yeah would be an ALS call So all of these calls nothing to from the
beginning you know we're not a coastal unit a BLS unit is not going to go to a call on their own without any of the municipal first response or a county uh uninorporated area first response unit with a paramedic ALS unit getting there
uh evaluating the patient Uh from there if if they deem that it's a a call that would be would fit the protocol for Coastal uh they'll then call our medical director and the medical directors will say yes or no Uh one of the examples I
have is a a bite Uh somebody called 911 for a uh you know ant bite beasting I'm not sure what kind of bite but it was a bite and called the medical director gave the vital signs give a rundown uh tell the whole situation to our one of
our on call medical directors and then they'll transfer it to Coastal from there So uh we current we have a lot of eyes on it to uh watch it through the process Uh total of 49 activations since it's gone into service and 16 since the
hospital uh 7:00 on Monday morning the hospital was officially shut down Uh and 16 of those have been since Monday morning Okay And so I just wanted to put it out there for for the public that's watching this Um I I just wanted everybody to be
aware that the hospital is closed in Rocklage So don't please don't drive there Don't don't go there because you won't get service And if you are having a true emergency I would hate for something to happen um because you didn't know So if you if you have neighbors if if you have elderly people
in your community that you look after if you um you know are in a mom's group if you're whatever you're doing please try to spread the word that the hospital is closed and to please don't go there um uh something
um for the future because would would an alternative to this be um hiring SI uh single certification uh paramedics PDM is that something that's that's viable to get
some of these people um who are highly qualified working for these other agencies into our um agency it is Yeah we we started with the single searchs on a 24-hour basis and I know I know the guys with the union they had a
conversation about the perdm late last week um to start working on that Look at that as another angle Um but yeah we'll we'll hire any any single cert that would like to come work at BCFR any firefighter that would come work at BCFR
we'll hire uh you know anyone that can pass our test There's no doubt about that I mean you heard the guys here If we had the available people to do this ourselves in the rigs uh we would be doing this ourselves Is it possible to work with them on their schedules as far
as like that they don't have to work a full 24 hours that they could work a 12-h hour schedule yeah anything's possible We you know they just started talking about that the other day So uh how that would work in in the uh the flux of things We'd have
to talk that through It's in the beginning stages but they have been talking about it Yes So can I put it out there for people to start applying so that we can start okay Well um if you're out there and you
are a single ser paramedic and you want to work for BVAR County but the hours are a problem please email me Please email sorry chief chief or our county manager Um because you know we we want you working for us for BVAR County
Um and then what is the cost to the residents who use coastal services 742.95 plus $1430 a mile Okay And is that um that's the same as our rates currently our rate for uh BLS transport
is actually uh $849.81 with the same per mileage rate Okay And then the coastal um vehicles do they do they charge extra for any like services that are provided within the
ambulance okay No not not that I'm aware of I'm obviously not a billing expert for Coastal but Okay Not that I'm aware of All right Thank you I think that's all I have for you All right Thank you Thank you so much Um so that that all being said I just
wanted some information to get put out because I don't know how much has really been talked about to the public Um and so the next thing that I would like to talk about is I was at um along with uh Commissioner Felner we were at a
[Music] um health update I guess it is um community health needs assessment update and it was a meeting where all um a lot of stakeholders got pulled into the conversation
um everyone from nonprofits to um healthcare industry people Uh there were some elected officials there There was um just a lot of people who you know would would be um could benefit from
this information And unfortunately I was kind of troubled by what I saw And it's because the the data that was put out there just seemed very [Music]
um it was very minimal The pool was only 1,200 um people within the whole within the whole county and they gave us this um survey data and compared to other surveys that I've seen going to government meetings and whatnot I was
really troubled because um the the people who put it together they couldn't give me their metrics and I was um I was troubled by that especially because this data could influence the decisions made
by different health care um providers and um you know we had we had some of our county staff there that this information went out there and so I just um wanted to go on the record and talk about that because only 233 people in
North Bard were a part of this Um only half of the uh people who participated were random And I feel like that's a really important data point because if a survey is is biased how good is the data
and um I just really felt like I needed to uh speak about that Um and so the city of Titusville um I think it was a couple years ago oh one year ago in 2024 um they put out this survey
and it went out to um their constituents about uh basically the how the how the city is going And I just felt like that that company gave us three pages
worth of methodology about how they did this survey And so I was really troubled when I saw the um community health needs assessment especially because of how um how important that information
is So I think that um is pretty much it Um I would also like to give you guys a heads up that on the next board meeting um I will be putting on the agenda um the other CRAAS So
um you know that will be open for conversation Commissioner Alman in board report Uh Commission I think Commissioner Goodson you have anything commissioner Atinson other than I look forward to you crushing my CRA Okay Commissioner
Atkinson just three things very briefly Um I'm going to be hosting a town hall down in Barefoot Bay There's been a lot of um citizens who've got some things they need to discuss so we're going to be doing that this month Um I'm continuing to work um with staff and the
Barrier Island uh Preservation Protection Association Um hopefully we will be able to have the barrier island area of critical state concern um plan hopefully transmitted sometime in July Currently I believe our
attorney is looking over some uh changes that were made by BIPA Um and lastly I would just like to say that again FDOT has been fantastic um they have put their project for the pedestrian hybrid beacon um on ho on hold at the moment
until we have a uh a stakeholder meeting That's it Okay Appreciate that On the uh the hospital since you mentioned that I know the legislature just continues to put pressure Um I can't speak to any
specifics um only in that I think it's still evolving Um I I know that they've got some kind of uh just even the question of hey what can we do to make uh things a little better in Bvard I think that at
least starts a discussion on we need help with this that um and the other things So I I think that's in in progress right now um the the event that we went to on the on the data um I don't think you're
wrong but um the the closer you get to the population the greater the validity of your uh of your survey So uh more more people more data um will I think uh they'll probably go there in the future
That's that's just the nature of data Anyways thank you everybody Uh is that it okay thank you very much The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public comment do not necessarily
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