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Board of County Commissioners acts as a quasi judicial body when it hears requests for resoning and conditional use permits applicants must provide competent substantial evidence establishing facts or expert witness opinion testimony showing that the request meets the zoning code and
comprehens of plan criteria opponents must also testify as to facts or provide expert testimony whether they like or dislike a request is not competent evidence the board must then decide whether the evidence demonstrates consistency and compatibility with the
comprehensive plan and the existing rules in the zoning ordinance property adjacent to the property to be rezoned and the actual development of the surrounding area the board cannot consider speculation non-expert opinion testimony or pull the Audience by asking
those in favor or opposed to stand up or raise their hands if a commissioner has had Communications regarding a resoning or conditional use permit request before the board the commissioner must disclose the subject of the communication and the identity of the person group or entity with whom the communication took place
before the board takes action on the request likewise if a commissioner has made a site visit inspector or investigation the commissioner must disclose that fact before the board takes action on the request each applicant is allowed a total of 15 minutes to present their request unless time is extended by majority vote of the
board the applicant May Reserve any portion of the 15 minutes for rebuttal other speakers are allowed 5 minutes to speak speakers may not pass their time to someone else in order to give that person more time to speak welcome everyone to the Thursday
March 13th uh meeting for the landing and Zoning for the board of County Commissioners our invocation tonight will be by Pastor Lucas Alida did I say that right sir and you're at and oh I'm sorry and you're at Central Baptist
Church sir that's right let's pray Lord I pray unto you the Triune god of the universe who alone has immortality who Reigns through Christ far above all rulers Authority and power and dominion and above every name that is named named
not only in this age but also in the age to come Lord I recognize your power today but I also recognize your wisdom appointing government to extend your purposes on Earth one of the ways you have determined that you will that you will uh do this is through the
leadership of civil magistrates father I pray today for The Bard uh Board of County Commissioners I thank you for this body of servants present here I pray that they would be greatly blessed blessed and I pray that they would come together to make
decisions on our behalf that are beneficial and benevolent for our County Lord whether they fear you or not you tell us that there is no Authority in this earth that is given to men that does not first come from you I pray that
they may know this today I pray that they would know the source of all power and the source of all life that is found under the son Jesus Christ who though he was in the form of God did not count equality with God a thing to
be grasped but empty himself by taking on the form of a servant being born in the likeness of man and being found in human form he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death even death on the cross Lord your son is the model of servant leadership he is
mighty and yet humble he is Lord and yet obedience he offers life through his own death a cursed death death on the cross taken on the punishment not his own but the punishment of the sins of all those who come to him in faith and father
through jesus' death death died and when Death Dies all things live I'm thankful for a faith that is interested in human flourishing I pray that this body would share this conviction the upholding of human dignity the sanctity of human life
from the womb to tomb the free exercise of religion the care for the poor the W widows and orphans father I pray for bvar County that this County would be known as a county where the rights that were first endowed To Us by our creator
are protected and promoted by the governing authorities I pray that Bard County would would be known by this world as a beacon of lights and there they would know that there is a God in heaven here in Bard
County who loves his creation and who is willing to save and redeem all who will come to you through Christ I pray in the in the name of Jesus Amen thank you sir very much uh please join me in the Pledge of
Allegiance i al to the flag of the United States of America stands na indivisible Li and justice for all okay Commissioners we do not have
any minutes for approval we don't have any resolution um or Awards tonight we do have a consent agenda there's one item on the consent agenda it's in my district I'm fine with it any discussion on that is there a motion to approve the
consent agenda move to approve so we have a motion by commissioner Delan is there a second second I have a second by commissioner ainson cler will call the RO commissioner Delaney yes Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner adkinson yes
commissioner Altman yes chairman fer yes and we'll show that passes 5- Z thank you I don't have any cards on the public comment so we will go right into the hearings and we'll start with H1
Trina good evening Commissioners H1 and H2 are um companion applications I will read them into the record together however they will need a separate um approval Cameron and Courtney Parker request a smallscale comprehensive plan
Amendment under 24 s.8 to change the future land use designation from res one a 2 and a half acres to Res one under application number 24ss 000018 located in District 1
Cameron and Courtney Parker request a change of zoning classification from gu to rr1 under zoning application 24z 0068 located in District 1 okay and we have the applicant here
tonight Cameron Parker okay um I don't know if the commissioner will have questions for you um you commissioner Del do you have any questions no this is is there any uh discussion on the item no commissioner
your District thank you um I uh just wanted to say welcome to the neighborhood you're one of my neighbors and um so uh it's you guys are going to love it so um I would like to
move to approve this okay so I think we need a separate motion for H1 and H2 so U just do your motion for H1 sure I would like to sorry move to
approve H1 do I have to say the whole thing I don't have it in front of me I'm trying no that's that that's okay all right uh okay so we have a motion by commissioner Delaney on H1 is there a second second okay we have a second by commissioner ainson clerk will call the
role commissioner Delaney yes Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes commissioner Alman yes chairman fer yes we'll show that one approved commissioner on H2 I would like to move to approve um
the requested change of zoning classification from gu to rr1 okay we have a motion by commissioner Delaney is there a second we have a second by commissioner ainson clerk will call the rooll commissioner Delaney yes Vice
chair Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes commissioner Alman yes chairman felner yes and we'll show that one also passes 5 Z congratulations welcome to the neighborhood okay all right Trina H3 item H3 is Robert and Michelle mathys
represented by Thomas Brandon request to change in zoning classification from EU and Au to all EU under application 24z 0067 located in District 2 okay is the applicant here
tonight no uh commissioner Goodson yes i' like to make a motion for approval okay uh so we have a motion to approve on H3 is there a second second we have a second by commissioner ainson clerk will call the role commissioner Delaney yes
Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes commissioner Alman yes chairman felner yes and we'll show that passes 5 also uh go to H 4 H4 invest brigh LLC represented by
Paulo Jimenez rep request a change in zoning classification from ru- 1-7 to r-113 under application 24z 0061 located in District 5 okay we have the applicant here
tonight uh Miss Lisa Manion did I say it that's for oh I'm sorry I don't think we had a card for four I'm apologize you're the applicant uh Comm commissioner you have questions for the app I do not and i' like recommend make a motion for
approval okay second okay we have a motion by commissioner Alman we have a second by commissioner delini clerk will call the role commissioner Delan yes Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes commissioner Alman yes
chairman felner yes I I'll show the that um passes 5 Z okay um H5 H5 is Lisa and Christopher Manion request a change in zoning
classification from gu to Au under application 24z 0053 located in District 1 okay now I have the card for Lisa Manion one that's district
one okay is the applicant here tonight ma'am commissioner do you have questions for the applicant I don't no nope okay to your District you like to make a motion I'd like to make a motion to uh approve the request to change the zoning
from gu to Au okay we have a motion by commissioner Delany on each five is there a second sir anyone is there a second second on them okay commissioner ainson second clerk will call the role commissioner Delaney yes Vice chair
Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes commissioner Alman yes yes chairman felner yes and we'll show that passes 5 Z okay now we'll go to H6 Frank Mone represented by Jason cell requests a change in zoning
classification from bu1 and ru-2 d10 with a cap of six to R a-2 d-6 under application 24z 0069 located in District Two okay now I
do have two cards on this uh the the applicant um is the applicant here tonight Jason okay commissioner do you have questions for the applicant uh yes okay sir it's kind of a a joint question
between you and and Billy reading this and understanding it the best I think I do is you're asking for six units per acre on 14 acres is that correct sir it is is that correct you're asking for six units on
14 acres correct it's a density cap correct Jason surl Grey Robinson 1795 West Nasa Boulevard Melbourne here this evening on behalf of the property purchaser from the property owner Mr masterani but yes correct the rezoning
will allow for um a density of up to six dwelling units per acre so that would be 84 14 * 6 correct 88 there's a 88 is the the number Billy is it true just stay right there for me Billy is it true that
U if this zoning would go into effect it would uh complement or be the same as the one North or South is that correct that is correct that's C the one to the South is C at 6 units per acre yes and then also if they ever wanted to change it they'd have to come back to planning
zoning and ask for change correct if they wanted to change their zoning yes if they get this zoning they'd have to come back yes okay thank you so much sir stay right there any other questions that you can um are there any other questions for the applicant we do have another
card okay all right sir hang on just uh or happy to respond to any public comment I'll stay close thank you Michael G gates gates okay trouble reading that one good
evening thank you yes sir for the opportunity to speak to you um I would say that beginning with my
request I I have consulted with Consultants about this item and I'm going to uh present to you that information will you pull the microphone a little closer to you sir this
microphone just you could just pull it over there is that better that is better great first of all a little a little bit about me and um it is uh um I am the
director of Visions 20 which owns 6.44 acres of land that is planted planned and permitted
now okay and in regards to that um we um know for fact that there is another way to change the
zoning without this happening under their proposes I would just say that um excuse me a minute oh I need my readers that's why I
can't read oh this so much better um I I'll go back to myself I purchased this this property in 1973 at that time
time Mr L Lancaster was a property that presented to you now uh I came to BR Bard County in
1967 and at that time um I entered a their real real estate business in 1973 that is the aspect of me buying that property
at that time I came [Music] and I was a real estate broker in 1973 in 19 um
78 I got my designation the highest designation for commercial real estate called a CCI my number was
849 and when I got that number I was building as a developer at the time so developing in Bard County I know allot
about so in consuling with the the Consultants the the resoning request for tax account 26188 owned by Frank and pending this application the property owner by
Vision By by Vision 20 is 330 ft from the subject zoning the subject property has been Zone bu1 General commercial
ru21 multifam cap at six since 1996 the resoning application for your cons requests a change in the zoning designation from
bu1 on the acres to r210 Capa [Music] 6 I have a few minutes yes please thank you we're on
the remaining 1192 Acres r the applicant CLA claims in its appliation it wishes to correct the
inconsistently currently with the existing future land map designation and carrying forward the intent of six units per acre per
density however the the Ain has presented and the refusal limited to the entire site to six units on the site the appin merely
needs to change bu1 to ra a-26 limits the D density to six units per acre to achieve that
claims he wants to build allegedly town homes on six units to the acre for a total of 88 units Ru
2-10 allows single family attachment homes but and all also allows attached single family if a smaller
component is c commercial per per section 21-6 truly the inconsistency in the future land use of the entire
14.8 acre should be changed to rees1 the the problem with the developers statement interest intent is to that he falls fails to mention
flu policy 2.1 residential development is permissible in the commercial land and use designations of at density up
to one category higher than the closest residential designated area on the future land use map Flume which is
one same side of the street where there are 2.88 acres that can still have 30 units per acre without a
commercial use additionally R R15 it allows a 20 5% density bonus if the developer again
attempts a p which would now not be limited by the density cap of C to that
acre Acres along more five six units to their to be in compatible if the de developer intends to build 157 single family attached resident town
homes on 14.3 of land east of Highway One those extra 88 units are wholly inconsistent and
incompatible with the surround in area surrounding area surrounding with the county comprehensive plan and development in the coastal are
area the property to the North and the South or high value single family residents more specific the subject property is located next to
five single family homes to the north valued from 500,000 to 1,200 to the sou South the Laguna
Condominiums are value at anywhere from 500,000 to 89,000 the I'd like to underscore the this misleading nature of of the de
developable devil resoning request the request is removed the current zoning of bu1 and r10 specic phally with the
intention excuse me with the removal of the density cap of six per acre re re reing this limitation of six units to the acre but leaving
RS r e s i s future land use designation is clearly calculated to the tent to spread the density of
157 tow houses over the entire 14.8 sir I you said you said some things there maybe we could let the applicant uh answer commissioner do you have do you have questions for Mr Gates okay let let's let the commissioner this
is I think you need your mic sir this is more toward Michael okay going back to you again Billy you heard everything he said and I heard you before say just 88 units he's talking about 157 is there
any confusion in this whole thing I believe there may be commissioner 157 is the development potential today if it was developed under the live local with their current zoning the proposed request actually brings the development
potential the maximum to 88 you don't agree with that I don't agree I just say uh one two minutes they have not
presented uh to the first rejection of pnz in the commission when and now at this pnz it was 8
to4 but the key two things to that is they wouldn't um agree to take and have a a site plan G
given what's the word I'm looking for I don't know but why would they do a site plan that would show 88 units until they get the zoning it's not like they're going to go out to tomorrow and start building because they're going to have to submit a site plan correct
Billy yes commissioner okay so they went from 157 to 88 and of course they couldn't get 157 so they came back with a better proposal that would please the whole neighborhood aren't you happy with six units 88 units rather than 157 if
they would tell us what they're going to build how they're going to build it and are they going to use wouldn't okay wouldn't that come Billy after this zoning passes and they start developing site plans then you have the opportunity
then to kick it back change it yet of this yet of that correct correct it have to be in conformance with the code yes okay so Mike I don't understand why you're complaining uh maybe I'm missing the point um
well in all my years here de developing right I don't know who the buyer is is that important though you need to know I would just say this if he gets the okay at this level he has the right
to sell the property he has the right to to change anything he wants to change and and that's my thoughts all right you now sir thank you Mike thank you so
much question chair may I question um you've heard everything you've heard County staff talk about and I'm going to ask you not that it you know not that I would hold you to the fire but your intent is six units breaker is that a
fair statement affirmative the rezoning is purely done to develop resident on a commercial portion of the property to do so in a uniform fashion and you're going to your intent is to develop it not sell it I assume correct correct the intent
is to develop single family attached which provides a transition between the multif family D South and the single family T you have an opinion what those will cost or what are you going to I'm just I know I do not it would only be speculation all right okay I have no other questions I'm I would like to make
a move a motion for approval okay we have a motion by commissioner Goodson is there a second we have a second by commissioner ainson clerk will call the role commissioner Delaney yes Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes
commissioner Alman yes chairman felner yes and we'll show that passes 5 Z thank you thank you okay item 87 the mohem excuse me the Mohan Family Trust dated January 25th 2023 request a
change in zoning classification from r-111 to bu1 D A under application 24z 000063 located in District
2 is the applicant here today okay commissioner do you have questions for the applicant yes okay ma'am if You' come up how are you ma'am good how are you guys uh question could you tell me as far as commercial retail what are you
planning on doing with it a spa a spa now was that the first decision you had or was that the last decision because you've talked about a lot of stuff my understanding from Myra correct yes um it's always been a spa always been a spa
now can you tell me Myra are they how do they feel about this the last time I heard from the last hearing they disagree I don't know because of traffic I don't understand that because traff going to be there anyway okay and U then
you will I guess you're going to have to is it true she would submit some sort of overview plan to Myra is that a true statement as part of the site planning process Myra would review the review the site plan right so you understand that
right no I don't you don't Meritt Island Redevelopment agency Myra will be involved in your site plan an approval okay no problem is that okay yes all right all right I move for approval I have no other questions okay we have a motion by
commissioner Goodson we have a second by commissioner Atkinson clerk will call the role commissioner Delaney yes Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner adkinson yes commissioner Alman yes chairman felner yes congratulations man thank you
I'll show that passes 5 Z okay uh item h8 item h8 Villas at River Palms LLC represented by Edward fleece request a change in zoning classification from V2 to ru-
1-7 under application 23z 0067 located in District Two okay I think we have the applicant here tonight right Edward sir uh commissioner Goodson do you have
questions for the applicant yes I'd like yes sir if you'd come up good police offs at 1275 South Patrick Drive and Satellite Beach and your purpose here is to commercial you put something commercial
sir is that correct well currently it's on uh commercial right and you want to change it to R17 right correct okay what do you intend to do with the property after that well we're going to do kind of an upscale residential uh right now it is
platted with 11 Lots 11 Parcels right under the current zoning you can do Residential but it takes 60 feet wide I Believe by minimum 100 fet okay all right thank you okay I move for approval uh chair second okay we have a motion by
commissioner Goodson we have a second by commissioner Alman clerk will call the RO commissioner delini yes Vice chair Goodson yes commissioner Atkinson yes commissioner Altman yes chairman felner yes we'll show up pass 5 Z thank you very
much okay very agreeable tonight yes uh we don't have any unfinished or new business we don't have any cards on the K portion of the public comments we will go into uh board report uh Mr County
Manager I do not have any report okay uh Mr County attorney no report sir okay uh commissioner Delan yes thank you um so I I was I
participated in a meeting today um with some of the uh Health Care leaders in the county and um I just wanted to give you guys a little update of what I heard um and a lot of this is about the plan
and um what do we do about Orlando Health hospital um the depart the Department of Health was very concerned about uh maternity and um where those moms are going to go to deliver their
babies um Parish the um closure is going to cause a lot of issues for them um being our only public hospital they don't have the finances to fully staff themselves
um so right now they only have I believe it's 109 um of the bed staffed and um so they're going to be needing if if they're going to be expected to take on more they're going to be needing additional um
finances uh Health First they um are pretty much operating at pretty high capacity 90% in Vieira 70 % at Cape canaval 85% at homes 95% in Palm Bay um
they do have some things that they're working on thankfully uh for expanding some of their capacity um they're renovating they're talking about renovating um their Tower a and that is
going to expand uh 26 to 32 beds um and as the letter states that they're they're uh they sent us a letter um they're working on some other some other things and trying to partner with Parish
um to expand some of the services up there um so Melbourne Health uh or I'm sorry Melbourne Hospital which is from what I understand Orlando Health um they are going to expand their Stroke Program
they cannot expand their OB um and they are going to be transferring 50 to 55 uh jobs from rockage to Melbourne um so that's good the medfast Urgent uh Urgent Care um mentioned
that one of the issues that they were running into is that Bard can't get reimbursed for transport um if we try to use them for um a place for people to get treated
um and then the person who came from Coastal she was talking about uh how they're ready to step in to help with the transportation needs um that they have about 26 trucks
um and that they are hiring staff which is that's a good thing um one of the things that I'm hoping that we can we can work on and you know all of us up here have a lot of different um connections and uh
resources and whatnot that we can rely on and um I'm hoping that I could rely on you all for help with me to um access those those people in our lives that we that we know and um that we can try to
get to a good place with um expanding the healthcare in North Bard um because I'm very concerned one of the things that they talked about was um adding a helicopter which that's really great um Health First is going to
add a helicopter uh from what I understand uh but they can't transport in a helicopter if it's raining or um if the weather is bad so um while that's definitely helpful and thank you so much for that health first um you know
there's a lot of need um and so my other question um and comment for tonight was uh after this call today it's made it extremely clear to me that we have
got to um get to a better place with our fire department and um with the letter that we received from the magistrate I didn't know if anybody would be interested in having another executive session
um to see if we could communicate about um our our where we are with fire negotiations well first of all has has everyone seeing the information that commissioner Delany is referring
to okay um is is there any other comment on that any anything from Morris is is that is that something that's appropriate at this
stage we we are technically still in the negotiation period right now even though we're at impass we've had a hearing um briefings are due to be submitted by the parties by April 11th with the magistrate to issue a recommendation within 30
days um following that so the board can always have a meeting and give give direction you know we we can negotiate at any point in time uh up until such time as magistrate issues a recommendation and one of the parties
rejects all or part of it at which point everything stops because the board will then be acting as uh a neutral decider of the ultimate issue between the parties and you'll have no Communications with either the management team or the union when when
is the magistrates uh final recommendation do briefer du by April 11th the Magistrate's supposed to issue the recommendation within 30 days so no later than May 11 but it could be sooner okay so so there's there's some time
from I mean what what was sent so far was from him was here's my early thoughts on things right it's it's not the final um I'm that appeared to be an effort by him to get the attorneys together to come to some kind of
resolution okay and and give some suggestions as far as almost acting as a mediator okay what's what's the uh what's the pleasure of the board here on this I you Comm commissioner Alman
sir so I guess um the choice we have is to try to go back in executive session in private and try to resolve the matter um which really has implications on
assessment fees property tax rates a budget and that would be those would have to be discussed in private first hearing a hearing a recommendation from the Special M magistrate nobody knows
what's going to happen there and either we agree or then we become judge and that takes place in public and I think we'll have to have some tough discussions on property taxes and assessment fees and what have
you and from what I remember in the last executive session there was some discomfort talking about those in private I mean we're not going to be able to commit to a fee or a tax in in private I'm just speaking from the heart right because I'm with you I understand
and I don't mind going into executive session again and trying to come up with something but I it's my clear understanding that there's going to be some serious policy decisions that we're going to have to make to fix this problem serious either serious cuts and
or serious Revenue increase implications and I think that might be hard to do in private that might bring a lot of criticism on us maybe the best place to do this be right out in public you know that's fits with I'm all for
that and and so am I wrong about that I mean what are the downsides of that I mean what are the downsides of Us coming into a I mean I don't I don't know it's very rare isn't it from my understanding it's
extremely rare that that's happened I'm sorry exactly what are you asking about doing in public well if if if we go to impass right we're which we're in we're in and the special magistrate gives a recommendation yes we either accept that right which may
include having to raise taxes so that would have to be done in public or we arbitrated it as a quasi as a policy body quasi judicial and and we we try to build consensus here and that
has to be done in public so I think the question we have and I don't I'm not opposed to Executive session I mean I I'm ready to go and try to get something out but we would have to wouldn't we Frank i c me wrong wouldn't we have to agree list on on
either budget cuts or tax increases perhaps or not accepting the offer I mean what what are our choices and you have to consider those things but obviously you have to go through the statutory budget approval process and there's certain decisions you can't make until you reach those noticed hearings
and things like that so anything you decide prior to that would be have any you would have to in good faith you know if you approve an agreement you've got to in good faith try to fund it but there's a there's a pretty high likelihood you'll be looking at a one-year agreement with new negotiations
starting up right after this so but but maybe in a public we could come up with some sort of compromise in public even though and and then we go into the I just worry that we get criticized that's all and and I'm a Believer in doing things out in public and transparent I
don't any downside to that well no and in fact you'll be required to if when the magistrate recommendation comes out if one or both sides reject any or all of it uh then it will come to you and it will have to be a hearing in
public but so when the magate makes a decision uh will he factor in people's property taxes or what they're paying I mean they don't have the authority to raise taxes or raise they don't have that Authority they are supposed to strongly consider ability to pay so that should be considered in the now what
does that mean ability to pay does that mean ability to raise your tax or ability to pay with that looks at County budgetary constraints you know what your budgets have historically been limitations on budget I know in Bard County specifically they've looked to things like the charter cap and its
existence which um but I don't have any idea how this magistrate will you know apply those constraints and determining um the first point he makes is without prejudging this matter one might argue that under the circumstances it would be
hard to make the case for an inability to pay so he he literally says this in his letter um and my concern to waiting which I'm all for doing this in public I would do it in public right now if we could I wanted to do a workshop where we
you know talked about the future of our fire department um but we have this new crisis now with this Hospital Clos and when our fire department is so vulnerable and fragile right now um I
just really feel like if we can take something off of everyone's plates if we can you know get to a place with our fire department where there's some um clear
future that helps us be able to focus on and helps our our fire leadership be able to focus on the problem at hand which is um you know how we're going to handle a hospital shutting down because that's two months
away so two more months and the the hospital closes April 7th if there's no uh extension um so that's the only reason why I I brought it up because I just feel like
something's got to give I'm just going to say quickly I I think I see commissioner alman's point that even in a closed door meeting at this point I mean the elephant in the room is
what what are we talking about in terms of fire assessment fee and uh you know the the EMS millage um and those sorts of things ultimately ultimately we will have to decide those things in our in
our budget hearings um this summer so um I that part of it uh the behind the closed door meeting uh discussing taxes I have to say I'm uncomfortable with that um as well because I think there's
there's there's a purpose um to Sunshine and having those um meetings in in the in the public so I'm I'm I'm not sure what the the end result of a of a closed door meeting on April 8th is
what we're talking about after the uh commission meeting is that that way I I was proposing having one as early as we could even tomorrow or Monday youza start right now right exactly oh
okay all right commissioner I I think that's something the board's going to have to continue to think about um tonight I'm not I'm just not hearing anything else okay okay okay on the rest of board
report for tonight um commissioner Goodson none commissioner Atkinson just very quickly um earlier today I thanked the uh the TPO board for supporting the letter that I wrote to fot regarding the uh South
Beach issue and I wanted to do the same for us up here thank you very much I had a super productive conversation um with secretary Tyler um and representative soroy he I mean secretary Tyler was very willing to to hear our concerns and even
said he would you know come back down south and sit down with the residents again so I just want to thank us for for your support appreciate that uh commissioner Alman I uh was unable to go because we had a a meeting and uh didn't want to miss that but I got reports from folks
that went that space day up in Tallahassee went really well the members gu gave uh all the teams that were sent up there with space Florida very positive review and there's still a lot of support for space stuff I think bavard day was today or um we had this
meeting yeah this week unfortunately missed that but our local communities working real hard to you Miss la le shrimp what's that I think you missed Laur Lee shrimp I know yeah that's a lot to miss too but maybe next year I
remember when I worked for a rich uh we gave every member the uh shuttle Quarters at you know with the yeah commemorate the the shuttle and couple of them gave it back because they were afraid it was a gift H and um yeah that that was a funny thing when they brought
them back downstairs um so that tells you what the 2009 10 legislative sessions were like sir question um commissioner Alman would you take it upon you to come back to the board and tell us how much money the uh SpaceX and
blue origin is asking out of the budget so we could compare it to the cost of the sewer line on mer Island um yeah I'd be more than happy if that's public I know I don't know yeah I'll find out it's it's probably if they're asking for a request of
taxpayers money it's going to show on the budget yeah and it might be zero I'm just curious to talking about space Florida appropriation that they're asking for yeah yeah for and that would imply to me how they if they're not paying a penny for that sewer line that
would inform me something smells it's my understanding too that they're not asking us to provide the S line for fee free they will be because that's an Enterprise allowed to give them s because under the bonds and under the
enterprise system under public utility I don't think we're allowed to get give it away can you comment on that Frank no comment that that's a a complicated issue and because they are not currently
within the jurisdiction of the utility so there's different rules that apply and honestly I don't have the answer to that off the top of my head I don't know Morris if you could add anything to that I'm not sure about the outstanding Bond covenants with that particular you know
facility or what's out there but generally speaking if there is any indebtedness one of the bond covenants is that you have you can't wave those connection fees for sure they have to be treated like everybody else well that's fine well if they are if they're getting money from the taxpayers that's all I'm
asking they're asking for other needs with the state and I hope they give them to them but well the other needs are fine but if if they're not going to pay a penny on the sewer line is $150 million and it's coming from State taxpayers I would like for people to know that yeah I'll um I'll see what I
can find out make sure that's in public yeah I you know sometime economic inent of dollars has has some sort they fall under a different cloak but I'll find out those are good questions and I think
um I'd be very pleased to report that back to the board I mean they have the appropriation in now they are they are requesting for infrastructure support it's a very competitive environment we know that the Texas is really throwing a lot on the table we want to lose
launches so I'll see what they're doing to help preserve that I I I do I do think I do I do think uh Commerce um I mean there were a lot of lot of people at the table there I I would say that the governor is is very
motivated um by way of space Florida to protect space here in Bard County um or I should say in the State of Florida okay [Music] uh that's uh yeah I don't have anything else in addition to that thank you
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