Hey, hey, hey. Everyone, welcome to the Tourism Development Council. Let's uh do the pledge first and then we'll do a roll call. Okay. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Can we uh call the role? Attendance. >> Julie Braa,
Mayor Connors, Vice Chair Herman >> here. Larry Johns, Alex Litra >> here, >> Mayor Medina, John Moran >> here, >> Wayne Sword >> here, >> Chair Felner
>> here, that's a quorum. >> Yep. Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Are there any disclosures, conflicts, anything anyone needs to disclose before we get started?
No. Okay. We have minutes to approve for November 12th, 2025. Has everyone had a chance to look at the minutes? Is there a motion for the minutes? >> Have a motion by Vice Chair Hermanson. Is there a second?
>> Second. I have a second by Wayne Sword. Call the role on that real quick. Vice Chair Hermanson >> here or yes. >> Alex Ler >> I >> Yes. >> Yes sir. Mr. John Moran.
>> Yes. >> Wayne Sword. >> Yes. >> Chair Felner. >> Yes. Thank you. We'll show that that approved. All right. Peter. >> Thank you, sir. Um couple of things uh before we get into
some meat potatoes items. Um on TDT uh which is in your packet on page 26. So we have two months of reporting so
far. Um October was just slightly off from the prior October about down about 1% and then November came in pretty good at a little over 3%. Um tracking December to be maybe flat or
slightly down. Uh so we'll see see how that pans out. um clerk has been doing a pretty good job of of giving us, you know, the information we need on uh in a timely fashion. So, that's that's been good. We're working through some
reporting uh detail with them on their software. So that's that's just ongoing um effort with them, but other than that they they seem to have a pretty good handle on the process and are doing a good job of of giving us uh the the data when we need
it. Um budgetarily, uh we're we're good. You know, we just finished the first quarter. Um you know, that's that's usually the lowest spending quarter from a marketing perspective. So, uh, you know, I think we're still in good shape
in that area, but the budget's on, uh, 2728 if anybody has any questions on that. Um, I will mention we did kick off our spring campaign, so spring marketing is running. Um, and, uh, you know,
we're, uh, we're hopeful that we'll have a good spring. We think we're, you know, we think we're in in pretty good shape. I know there's, you know, some sort of cautionary tales that we're keeping an eye on, but but overall hopefully uh we're um we're off to the races with uh
with some good marketing out there. Um other than that, like I said, if there's any questions on on budget, I'm happy to answer, but uh I think we're in good good fiscal condition right now. >> Are there questions for Peter
on on that? >> No. Okay, Peter. >> Okay. Um, and then just a reminder, so the subcommittees will start to meet in uh typically that happens in March. Um, the uh two committees that are um for for
sure placed are the beach and marketing committees. on the second page of the agenda. We have dates for both of those um for you know the the um membership of the TDC did not change at all from last year. So unless you you know if you
would like to make a change to your appointments. Um I would just ask if you could bring that to the next meeting to the February TDC meeting. Um, and obviously, Commissioner, you can uh change the chairs of those committees if you so choose, or you can leave them as
as is. So, we'll just defer to the to the TDC to think about that for the next month and then just come back with uh with a final on that. Um, I think there's one, John. I think you owe me a a person for the beach committee, so I can work with you on that if you need
need some help. But you did appoint somebody to marketing, so we can keep that person in engaged on that. So, um, so other than that, that that's it on the on the subcommittee report. If there's no questions on that, then I
will move to item three, which is discussion about capital facilities, which we do need to have a little bit more >> questions of questions for Peter on the on those committees. >> You take action on suspending
culture, sports. So last year we made a we made a change to the uh TDC's operating procedures manual which removed sports and cultural from the list of committees standing committees. So they're no longer
standing committees. So yeah we're that's that's a permanent action. >> Beach and marketing >> just beach marketing and capital. >> Uh we'll have a you know conversation here in a second about capital. So >> there any other questions? Um Wayne,
>> so if we had somebody on last year, they just stay on. >> They can stay on. Um if you want to make a change, you can certainly let me know, but um they're also fine to stay. So >> I I was going to say that I I don't see
why we need to change them if if they're working. Well, that's that's my >> I don't know if they would want to get out in certain situations or >> I mean if you know certainly reach out to you know if you want to reach out to them um you know and if you need any contact info or anything like that I'm
happy to provide that. So we've got we got the list of who appointed who. So I >> I haven't heard I haven't heard from anybody that they they were not happy serving. So, in fact, I think we've heard a from a couple that wanted to
stay on. So, >> well, that sounds ideal if you have people actually come to meeting and they're willing to go to more of them for free. >> That's pretty pretty good. So, any other questions for Peter on the
committees then? Okay. >> Okay. So, sir, we're moving into item three, which is discussion about capital facilities. couple of decision points we'll need to talk about. Um first will be do we convene a committee this year?
Um and if so, do we want to um have some kind of grant program or process? Um so that'll be a discussion. And then thirdly, um we wanted to have a little bit more detailed discussion about the grant criteria guidelines. um regardless
of whether we have um a actual grant program this year, we wanted to talk about the guidelines and some thoughts on changes that we have. So, uh I'm going to I'm going to start by in your pack, well, it's not attached to your packet. It was separate from your
packet. I put in a 10-year projection of budget. Um the first column is this fiscal year. You could see um we had about 650,000 available this fiscal year. If you look at the next column, um the next column,
you know, a lot of uh projects are getting sort of resolved, if you will, are getting uh sort of will will be wrapping up. Um the the lighthouse project and the amphitheater, those two particularly, we expect those to be done this fiscal. So, all reimbursements will
be made and and those will be completed projects. Um but then next year, we'll have, you know, again, we'll have the aquarium. um they're slated to break ground. I don't have a date yet, but they're supposed to break ground by April. And if they do, then that kicks
off the 10 years of 1.5 million. So, that's in here. Um the, you know, I put in lifeguards because I believe that will be a request for from the board to continue to fund fund some portion of the lifeguard budget. So, I've I've
plugged that in. Um Bright Line, you know, nothing yet. We don't know. They've just are applying uh to the uh federal administration for a grant that would be I think 45 million is what
they're seeking. Um and then you know we have 5 million uh we're holding for them and I think the city of Coco does as well. So um you know that would be uh that would be something that would be future uh you know we'll hear more about that
later this year I I expect. Um, that being said, if if all you know happens the way that I've laid it out here, then you can see down at the bottom there'd be just under a million dollars available. Um, you know, frankly, not
not ideal for, you know, an award uh of a grant this year. That's that's not really, you know, a good amount for a capital uh uh program. I mean, we'd like to see it be, you know, significantly more than that. um that'll start to go
up over over the next couple of years. But again, I'll let I'll let the TDC kind of think about that for a minute and we'll just talk talk a little bit more about the the guidelines. Uh and then we can come back and have a conversation about whether we want um you know, we want to have the committee
meet or if we want to have a a grant program. So that's that just gives you uh the top line on budgetarily. Um, and then also in your packet I put um set of guidelines. And I'm just going to talk through the the issues. I'm not
going to walk through section by section because there's, you know, there's a lot of red lines um that we just update from year to year. Those are just things that we do. But there's three or four significant changes to the guidelines that we added to sort of, you know,
ensure some some additional protections for for the county and for the TDC. And um four three or four in particular I wanted to really discuss and get any feedback on. One was, you know, in the past we've
always allowed various types of um elements of a project to be reimbursed, including things like architectural and engineering work that would be done, site planning work, things that would be done like prior to construction.
We took that out and said that's not allowable. we're only going to uh allow um actual construction work to be reimburseable. So, that's a big change. Um but that I think if you think about
the situation that we're in currently um with one of the recipients, that would have protected us from that. Um secondarily um when the reimbursement occurs typically
we were the sort of the first source for people to get reimbursement. So in usually in the first year we would start getting reimbursement requests on projects. Um, and just as an example, if it's a $50 million project and we gave
$5 million for it, we would have been the first 5 million um, requested, we put in here that we would be the last funding requested. So, they would have to come up with $45 million first and then at the end of the project, then
they would then they would ask for that reimbursement. So, again, that would be a a protection. you know, seeing that the the prog progress of a of a construction project and that it would be, you know, fully developed almost before they started getting their final reimbursement from
us. So, again, I think a good protection there. And then thirdly, you know, because it had it had been a reimbursement program, we did not have a clawback in there because the thought was, well, you spend the money, you'll get reimbursed for your money as you go.
Um but we've added a now we've added a claw back and again all of this is uh still under review by the county attorney's office but our our thought was no let's you know say uh if a project goes you know 10% 20% even 50%
of the way but then it doesn't complete then then you know we would claw back any funds um because the project wasn't what did not reach completion. So those are three things in there I think that will give us very good protection. Um
but obviously at this point, you know, we're still talking conceptually, so we're very open to other thoughts and ideas that the that the TDC might have. Um, and uh, you know, I think what I'll do at this point, unless there's, you know, specific
other things that that you'd like to talk about, um, I'll just let let the TDC kind of weigh in on those three things and then see where where that takes us. >> Let me let me ask a quick te technical question on the clawback. Is that something like a lean that's recorded
and then when the whole project is done, then it's released? Does it does it >> um I mean that I I'm kind of looking at Justin for that one. I'm not sure. You know, we we wrote it in and basically it
does, you know, it says um if a project ceases forward progress for more than 12 months or does not come to fruition, any any funding that have been reimbursed would need to be returned. I don't I
don't know technically if it would be a lean per se. >> That's something we could explore, but it would be more contractual obligation. We're saying if you receive these funds and completed that back. So we would go under the contract
>> without guarantees. It's like great to have in writing, but >> that's we could explore potentially put list. It wouldn't be a list, but we would have the right to that's not something we look at.
>> So, >> well, first of all, I like the idea that we're we're we're the last. >> Mhm. >> I I think that that's probably a real common sense in my mind. That's a common sense um sort of thing. And then also I
think in section seven here uh allowable cost includes hard cost of materials, steel, concrete, wood, finishes, interior, paint, flooring, cabinetry, those kinds of things, but
not building plans and studies and and and those sorts of things. So we're pay we're paying for hard cost. I think that's also a common sense kind of thing. Um, so Peter, this is for us to consider and we'll take it
up. >> Yeah. I mean, I think I think we, you know, two things. one is, you know, let's maybe get into discussion about whether we want to have a program for next year because obviously we'll meet guidelines for that program and and this is something that if you wanted to have
a committee review, a committee could review it, but and then it would come back to the TDC or um if we just want to make change, you know, make those changes um and TDC could just vote on making those changes and we'll just make that happen. Well, as far as the policy
is concerned and how we protect ourselves in the future, I think you could adopt those changes without having necessarily, for lack of a better term, you know, having the necessary funds in there for >> for projects in the next year. So, I
think we could we could take the time to get this right and then uh if the money's available in the future, >> then then that's I think that's kind of a different thing. >> Yeah. And I um I would just ask if whether we want to do that today or we
want to do it at you know maybe the next meeting. Um similar to how we did the um the marketing support program grants just allow us to work with the CEO on any um scriber type changes you know uh
punctuation and language and things like that allow allow us to be able to make sort of final changes. Do you need anything from us today to move forward with the county attorney's office on some of these changes? But you don't need a motion or anything. >> Yeah, we wouldn't I mean if the if the
TC wants to vote on the the changes that I discussed that would give us good I think good direction and then we bring a final a final draft back >> helpful for upstairs. Yeah, it's up to you. Peter and I can just proceed as it
is and make a final but >> Okay. Well, we could we could do a motion to adopt the changes that that he said. Let's state it one more time so we're all clear on on on those changes. >> Okay. Number one is uh only
reimbursement on construction materials and construction activity >> in section seven. >> Section seven. >> Okay. Very good. Comments. >> I'm I'm sorry. I'm happy to to do all that. I was just um get it sort of in the >> clear. No, just clarify what we're Yeah.
So So go ahead, sir. >> No, just I think it's a good idea. >> It's great. Um some nuances. If it's a financed project, you start getting into sort of the sequence of flow. I think the public funds should be the most
protected versus private donations and and the entity applying donations. So absolutely should go toward the last. You're going to if it's a finance project or takes any financing at all, you're going to run into some technical issues there that'll probably arise when
they come back because usually the bank is last in order to get the financing. So it could be last of the equity contributions and presumably it's hard to tell. Every project's going to be different, but it would be last of the equity in as opposed to the last
dollars in. That'd be one thing to consider. And then you know the allowable costs here. This probably needs a little bit more of refinement. You know maybe against you know the construction costs which are much more elaborate than these four
selections here. But you know we should maybe say a guaranteed maximum price contract and it can be contributions towards you know the contract amount once that's signed and underway. Uh
because we're just limiting it here to a few physical items. >> Justin, is that is that clear what Tom's >> ask asking for? Okay. >> And then the clawback, as I said, is
great in spirit, but you know, if a company fails and there's no personal guarantees on these things, it's somewhat of a moot point, right? But I think you're protecting the public funds by by what you're doing here, being last. >> Yeah, I it it probably is sort of a moot
point, right? Um yeah, if if we're if we're last in line, then that's that's the ideal protection. >> So, um Okay. So we would get this in the proper
posture potentially for the next meeting or maybe two meetings from now and today you would be looking for commissioner >> I just I had a thought if you didn't mind uh I
know we like you said want to get this right and I know we're we might not have funds for the capital but if we were to form the committee and have them kind of work through this process of you know putting all these details together so that when there is funds available that committee can then just roll right into
whether does it make sense does it fit the guidelines because they helped you know work with our staff to put the guidelines together. Didn't that was just kind of a thought that came to my head. I didn't know what you guys thought about that. >> So you would like a subcommittee to consider these changes before the TDC?
Well, I think it would make sense that the as the the committee works towards maybe approving some of these grants down the road, if they were the ones that were already kind of on the ground floor of working through this process, they could roll right into maybe the next fiscal year when there is money available to look at the grant
applications. So then the committee would already be formed basically. >> Um, okay. Does that make sense? >> I I think so. I I guess I was just looking for this to get in the right sort of legal framework, get the the
legal ease from the county attorney's office so we could we could discuss it. This might have to go through a couple of drafts. I don't think there's anything wrong with that so that we get it right. >> Mhm. >> Um so I think what we're looking for at this point is for the county attorney to have
direction to um work on work on some of these things. I I like uh Mr. Hermanson's um amendment there. So, we're we're clear on on what he said. Okay.
>> So, this is just um an agreement for the county attorney's office to move forward on the revised draft that'll come back. >> Yes. >> Because that'll give everybody a chance to read this. >> Correct. We just got it. And if we bring it back at the next meeting, I think you
could still have another discussion about whether to convene a subcommittee to look at it as well or, you know, perhaps the TDC is fine with it or whatever. So, >> can I throw my two cents in on the first question? So, I'm a big proponent in these capital
funds being used for meaningful impactful projects. >> And the million dollars sets us up for non-meaningful, non-impact projects to come in here and ask for funds. And we have a horrible track record of approving everything that comes before
this board. Uh so open to hearing other people's ideas but my recommendation would be based on the lack of funds that we say no applications for this year until we acrue some in a meaningful amount and
then continue to try to uh reserve funds for projects that are going to actually have a an impact on tourism >> as opposed to saying yes to everybody that walks through the door. I I see where you're going and I think uh certainly if we just said we're not
going to do it in this year and we could just simply revisit that after after this fiscal is is behind us. >> I would vote for that. >> Okay. And I I I would be there too. And so we can still do the policy. We get we
can get that straight. We're we're not looking at capital grants this year um because of the money that's that's in the pot there. And that's just something that uh we'll revisit after we get a a policy in place and in the next year.
That seems like the pragmatic thing in in my view. What's what's everyone else think on that? >> Agree. >> I mean, I would I would appreciate a vote on that particular point just so we have that on record and then we can, you know, bring back the >> the policy piece later.
>> Okay. Do we do >> I'll I'll I'll make a motion. make a motion that we based on the current depletion of funds, the TDC not consider any capital funding grants for
the coming current year with a caveat that this is an absolute limit on lifeguard funding as well out of the capital facility. Can I add that in there? Because just as a small amount of funds
limits us to doing impactful project. >> That's going to be that's going to be a board uh for the county commission board decision. Okay. So >> I know I'm also I'm also concerned that if there's funds in here that more will get diverted to lifeguards which in my
mind are not capital projects that impact tourism. I I I understand the cons the concern, but um it's the county was certainly in a difficult position in the last year. Um and it's
our budget constraints and we don't know what's going to happen with property taxes. I wish I wish I had a a crystal ball on that and what the legislaturator is going to do. So, if I had better information on that, I' I'd go with you on on that item. But if we could do the
if you'd amend your motion for we're we're going to leave the money there. Okay. >> No, we won't. But due to lack of funds, we won't consider capital capital fund requests for the 2526 calendar year
>> and the 26 >> 26 27. Sorry. >> All right. Well, let's do these. How about we do it in two? We're in the 2526 calendar year now, right? >> Right. >> Yeah. For 2526, >> there wouldn't be a there wouldn't be a
grant cycle in 2526, but the funds that we would have used would be coming from next year's bucket. So, it'll >> Okay. So, I'll amend. We won't consider capital grant funding requests for the current or next fiscal years.
>> All right. Let's do that as as its own motion. So, is there Okay. So, motion by uh Tom Hermanson. We have a second by uh Mayor Connors. We'll call the role on that. >> Mayor Connor, >> yes. >> Vice Chair Hermanson,
>> yes. >> Alex Litri, >> yes. >> John Moran, >> yes. >> Wayne Sword, >> yes. >> Chair Felner, >> yes. And we'll show that's uh adopted unanimously. Okay. Very good. Now, let's
let's get back to the county attorney language and you need some direction there, right? Is that what we're looking for? >> Yes. >> And you bring back a draft to us potentially in the next meeting if they if they can do that. >> So, do we we need to probably restate uh
the changes that we're looking for in this in this next draft. So I think Tom, >> well the one cap the one I captured from Tom was look at expanding the list of construction costs because that it's there was a finite list when we came up with it. So we'll
>> we'll look at that. >> And I think he said something about clawback too, right? And if you were doing a financing >> that was just an observation. Uh if you're going to have clawback guarantees, it's going to it's going to impact anybody's ability to get financing. So,
>> as well as being the last dollars in >> the clawback is is potentially a moot point if we're if we're looking to be the the last dollars. Okay. >> I think there's a lot of good examples that the zone used in terms of money in
and clawbacks. U you know, the county's attorney's office had a lot of great contracts that I've reviewed over the years looking at those. So, I think they'll they'll find a a good spot. Are >> are we clear on the direction that we're giving you here? You need that in a
motion. >> If you'd like to make >> I Okay, sir. You want to make that as a motion? >> We'll make a mo. Yeah, this is a work in progress, but we will we will make a motion to continue to develop the
additional restrictions as outlined in the current draft with respect to capital facilities request to include uh the highlights in the current draft. >> Okay, second.
>> No, that's kind of a wishy-washy motion. >> All right, I'll I'll second that. Okay, let's call call the role on that. Sorry. >> Mayor Connors, >> yes. >> Vice Chair Hermanson, >> yes. >> Mr. Alex Litri,
>> yes. >> John Moran, >> yes. >> Wayne Sword, >> yes. >> Chair Felman, >> yes. We'll show we'll show that adopted. Thank you. All right. >> Okay. So, that I think that answers the questions we have for now. I think, as I
said, we can always address the subcommittee in February when we bring back the the draft. So, I think I think right now we've got all our questions answered under that that section, sir. Okay. I don't think we have any public comments today, right? No. Okay. Move
through that. We'll go to board reports. Um, no. Julie, Mayor Connors, uh, thank you very much. I actually just drove here from Tallahassee uh straight through uh to make sure I made it here, but uh
getting the the vibes of what's happening in Tallahassee in regards to property taxes. The Senate hasn't even taken it up yet. They're kind of waiting to see what comes out of the House and I think the executive branch, the House, and the Senate, they're all on opposite sides of the tree. So, I don't even
think we're going to we're going to get there. Um but we we'll see what happens. And also, please mark your calendars. Come up to Titusville, visit the Artemis launch. It's coming up soon, so it'll be exciting. I'm sure we'll have a half million people in Titusville seeing it.
And I'm sure Wayne is excited for a scrub. >> Yeah, multiple scrubs. >> Multiple scrubs. Keep >> keep those hotels full. Um, but >> too early. >> What' you say? >> It's the early scrubs that really get you. Empty out your hotel. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think you know with
people being on it, they'll they'll wait till the last minute and try to get it right. But and then also I heard rumors that the Coco Expo is uh potentially looking back coming back in a in a very big way. Um so on my way here I was getting some phone calls about what they're looking at doing and and I'm I'm
excited and uh hopefully um they'll >> Is there a new new buyer? I know it's the bank is selling it. >> Mhm. Looking to bring everything back from sports, soccer, baseball, all that stuff. So, I I told him to reach out to Peter and his team because they know
what's going on because I don't compared to you guys. So, thank you very much. >> There goes the million bucks. >> Maybe not. I heard a BIES was going to go there. So, >> uh I say something on the property tax
just real quick and and you were up there. I didn't I didn't go with League of Cities or or what have you. Uh you know, you have the governor in this equation, too. and and he's he's promoted some things, but the governor doesn't send a bill to the legislature and uh he doesn't sign the bill either
if it goes before the voters. Um, an interesting thing, someone had suggested uh just this morning that they there may be a special session for property tax, which I I find particularly interesting because whatever language has to go
before the voters must uh get there to the supervisor in August, in the beginning of August. So, they've got a I think a a short window to get that all hammered out and um get it done. So you may not see anything by the end of this session. It
may it may be something for a special session yet. So there's there's still a lot that can happen there. Vice Chair Hermanson, sir, in board report. >> Um nothing big. The hotel demand forecast is I don't want to
sound optimistic because that's not what I do. Normally pessimistic. >> I am too. I am. But, uh, we're seeing some some green shoots in the forward bookings through the spring. >> Okay. Is that consumer confidence stuff?
>> Don't I mean, it's with everything going on in the world, >> gas prices. >> Uh, with everything going on in the world, yeah, according to the White House, gas is only 76 cents a gallon. So, it must be gas prices. Okay.
All right. Very good. Uh, Alex, >> nothing to report, sir. >> No. Are you still doing the prefix menu? >> Is that Did I miss that? >> Uh, you know, that that that went away. Now, we're just uh >> hoping for season. Our busiest months is February and March. So, we'll uh
>> we'll see how that does. >> I had a conversation with someone the other day about your uh your room. I don't I've never been in the room upstairs uh that you do private parties. So, how how many um people can you accommodate up there? >> Uh 24 comfortably. >> Okay.
>> With with AV and uh you know, other ancillary services. >> Okay. Um and and when you do that, I've got to decide for everyone what they're eating or you give them like a prefix type type of menu, three items um kind of thing. >> We can be as flexible as you want to be.
If you're you're on a budget and you want to lock things down, yeah, >> we we can. But uh if you just want to let all the guests uh order off >> and you can do that for lunch too. So you can have a lunch meeting there or >> not as often but for you we can do anything. >> Okay.
>> I'm I'm helping you my friend. So Okay. All right. Very good. Um and then uh John Moran, >> I have a school. Um, not too much to do with tourism, but we're we're filled and we're moving forward in building a a
high school on one of our schools along with a u athletic field. >> Very good. >> Wayne, >> charter charter school. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Wayne, >> sir, >> also excited about Artemis. Um, and we'll find out. I think Friday is the
first wet dress rehearsal and that's when they'll decide launch date for sure, but right now it's on the calendar for the 6th of February. >> It is it is an exciting time watching the uh
all all the space activity and um I think the amount of uh what do I want to say PR that that we're getting from that you I think I'm using his words. You can't you can't buy that, right? the kind of advertising that's going on right now. Peter.
>> Yeah. And speaking of that, um part of the spring campaign, we're in next month we're going to Charlotte uh to do a sales blitz. Um we're going to be doing several days of uh travel agent training uh with um some uh cruise partners. Uh
we'll be doing some sales calls. Uh I'll actually be on air with uh one of the local TV stations with an astronaut um at that time. Of course, we'll be promoting the direct service from Charlotte to to MLB uh as part of that
as well. So that'll be a pretty cool couple of days up there that uh get our get our name out there and get some publicity out there in that market. Um, and then just uh just as a also a heads up, I wanted to mention the marketing support program is going really well.
Um, Laura and Deborah who are both here are working diligently on that program. Um, we've got, you know, a number of the the events just want reimbursement of their some of their expenses, which that program allows for, but also a number of
them like to engage with us and have us do the marketing for them. Uh so that's that's going on now and as we get into um probably the next month or so we'll start working on those guidelines for the next year's program. Uh so you'll you'll see that I don't know if we'll
we'll bring it in February probably probably be more like March is what we'll target for for that one. So that's uh that's it. The next meeting is on the 25th of February. So uh we'll you know reconvene at that time. Anything
else? No. All right. I'm I'm happy to hear your season's looking. >> I know. I'm I'm I'm a half glass full kind of Yeah. >> empty, whatever. Anyways, so >> glass is there and somebody kicks it
over. The government shut down. >> I I hear Listen, I lived through a lot of a lot of this when I worked in the hotel a long time ago. Thank you everybody. We'll we'll see you in February. >> Thank you. >> All right. The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public comment do not necessarily reflect the
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