Hey, hey, hey. nation. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to
it stands nation for all. I now call this meeting of the Boulevard County Board of Zoning Adjustment on Wednesday, June 17th, 1:30 p.m. to order.
Will Mr. Bodie please from the planning and development office please describe the function and operation of the board of zoning adjustment to our applicants and audience, please? >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. The board of adjustment is a quasi judicial body established by the board of county commissioners under chapter 62 article 2
division 4 of the bavar county code. The board of adjustment is empowered to hear requests for variances to the zoning regulation and assign regulation in chapter 62 article 6 and article 9. Pursuant to Florida rules of appelllet procedure, any person or persons jointly
or severally agreed by any decision of the board of adjustment may within 30 days after the date the order is signed apply to a court of competent jurisdiction for appropriate relief. Mr. Chairman, you have six items on your agenda today.
>> Thank you. Will our vice chair, Miss Clemens, please do reading one. >> Undue hardship. A variance may be granted when it will not be contrary to the public interest and where owing to special conditions, a literal enforcement of the provisions of this
chapter will result in unnecessary and undue hardship. The term undue hardship has specific legal definition in this context and essentially means that without the requested variance, the applicant will no have no reasonable use of subject property under existing development regulations. Personal
medical reasons shall not be considered as grounds for establishing undue hardship sufficient to qualify an applicant for a variance. Economic reasons may be considered only in instances where the land owner cannot yield a reasonable use and/or reasonable return under the existing land
development regulations. The applicant must answer a variance hardship worksheet with six six questions. The board of adjustments will discuss these questions today with each applicant who has requested a variance. I would now address our board members,
the applicants in our audience regarding the board procedures for today's hearing. The board of zoning adjustment as a quasi judic board with members appointed by the Bvard County Board of Commissioners will utilize the Robert rules of order to conduct its proceedings. The chair is asking all
board members not to ask questions while the applicants are making their presentations. Once the applicants have completed their presentation, we will begin board questioning with the board member who represents the applicants district. When concluded, question is open to the full board. The chair will
recognize each board member in turn. Once all board members have completed their questioning, we will then open the floor to the audience who may be here to speak concerning the applicant's application. Anyone from the audience wishing to speak will be given the opportunity to address the board only
once. At the conclusion of public comment, the applicant will be given additional time for rebuttal as well to present their final comments. Once completed, no further comment will be heard from the applicant or the public. The action then moves to the board for
discussion and action. We will not use a timer for this meeting. Instead, we are asking each speaker to be concise in what they have to say. It's important that you stay on the subject and avoid information that's not relevant. All persons speaking must provide their name
and address for the public record. Those wishing not to verbally state their address may ask the clerk at the podium for address card. Please fill it out and return to the clerk. Are there any questions regarding these procedures from the board members? Are there any questions regarding the
procedures from the applicants from the audience? Seeing none, we will move on to our next order of business. We will go to the meeting minutes. Any changes and motion to approve?
Dr. Bass. >> I make a motion to approve the minutes. >> A second. >> We have a motion to approve the minutes. A second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> The meetings have been approved.
Mr. Bod, can we start with our first applicant, please? >> Yes. Item H1, Lynn H. Terror revoke re revocable trust request variance chapter 62 article 6 buffar county code for a proposed waterway encroachment in an RU-1-13
zoning classification located at uh the application is 25V 000090 in district 2. >> Good afternoon. >> Hello. How are you today? >> You can move the mic if you >> Good afternoon. May I have your name for
the record and state your address, please? >> Okay. My name is Dr. Scott Herbert. My address is 351 South Lakeside Drive, Satellite Beach, 32937. >> Thank you. Will he be speaking as well? >> Yes, sir. >> He will be if necessary. Yes. >> Is he going to be speaking? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. He could just state his name for
the record and address into the microphone if you can. >> I am Charles Satara. I live at 1680 Behore Drive. Uh it's my house and my dock. >> Okay. And now I'm going swear you both in together. Okay. Do you swear to tell
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes. >> Thank you so much. Present your case, please. >> Okay. So, the property is a pilot. Does the overhead work? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, if you can see up on the cameras there, the property is a pilot
and the way the extension of the area is, it's a limited a limited um property. It's not a wide area. And what's going on is Mr. Terra wants to put his a boat lift there for his boat and he has a dock there and I'm going to show you something on the dock here. Let me pop this in here which explain what's
going on and where there's a hardship issue. So if you look here the shoreline underneath it here. Okay, here's the shoreline which has been eroding away though. But here it's all really shallow and the
drop off is not until this location. So this is the reason why the structure had to be out this far this far. It can't be against the shoreline. Does that make sense? So the projection from the shoreline to here is 12 feet. Now the distance across the water is 80 ft.
Okay. From shoreline to shoreline it's 80 ft. According to the code, you can put a structure out to 20% to the width. Right? So we have a 12t projection. We can technically go out 16 feet. Follow me so far. So, but we did. Now, what he
would like to do is be able to put a boat lift in. Now, in order to do this and trying to be respectful to the neighbors and for navigational issues, he has elected to go with what's called an elevator lift. Now, let me show you some examples. And it's not an elevator
lift that goes vertical. It's an angled elevator lift. It's different. So, what this does, you see that? So, what it does is it actually brings the boat back over the dock. >> Oh, sorry. >> Well, that Nope.
>> Oh, the other way. >> Nope. All right. Hang. Let me try this. >> Right there. >> How about that? >> Move it up, please. >> Yeah. Is that better? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. Anyways, this is just one example. Now, the standard angle on these is 23 degrees. We can actually
extend the angle on this to 37° to bring it further back over uh the dock. Now the actual main components of these are still within his allowable 16 ft. The asking for the 4ft extension is for the
beams the which hold the boat up. So the main structure is not going to be and the main part is not going to be the water. It's the beams that hold it up. But that four foot is based on the launch distance from where his dock is. Now remember the dock had to go further
out to even get to adequate water and then he wants to put and these these lifts are usually are actually more expensive than the standard lift which you usually see which are the the two pilings. So anyways, but once it's out of the water and pulled back over the boat,
over the dock, which it'll come back over, it's still going to be about a twoft extension beyond the allowable 16 ft. Okay. Now, his only other option would be, and this is why he wants to put this style of boat lift in, you
know, and to bring the boat back over to allow for space, is technically what he can do is he could technically extend his dock out to 16 ft, leave the boat in the water, and now you've got an extension out of about 26 ft to 28 ft because by the time you put in your
fenders and the and the lines, the boat comes in and out. this way with in the launch when you're in the launch position with the beams, you're looking at a distance of 20 ft, but when it's in the up position and back, it's 18 ft. And that's what the request is. It's not
for anything made any bigger than just to allow us to put those proper distance of the beams in. That's what it's for. And unfortunately, and we even looked at the fact, and I have some photos here, too, to give you an idea, he can't bring his boat in on the side
because there's mangroves in the way on the neighbor's property. And unfortunately, did that picture come through, Sean? Okay. And then on the other neighbor, the other neighbor um has a dock and he can't come in. And of course, it's too shallow there anyways. So, this is where he's in a stuck
position. And so what we're trying to do is minimize the distance and impact to the waterway so that there's no problems with the neighbors. They can still get up and down, but yet he's allowed to use his structure just like all the other neighbors can and and do it in that manner. That's why we're asking for the four feet.
>> Okay. Thank you. I see this is in district two. Our vice chair, Miss Clemens, would you like to start off with the questioning, please? >> Sure. Um when was that new doc when was that dock constructed? >> Um it was just Sean. When did that get approved? That's a good question. Thank you,
Chris. I didn't have >> So, wait, let me just say this. If she's going to be speaking, she needs to come down and get sworn in and come to the microphone. >> You got the information on that. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> When was your >> Can I address the the board, please? >> Yes.
>> We based this on the survey that was turned in. The survey said the projection going to be 25 ft. That's going to be nine feet out into the >> Yeah, that sur that was a the surveyor put that on. I think you put on there incorrect on the proposed that's what
the variance requested a 4ft extension. >> So you'd have to change it >> from what is advertised as 9 ft over the 16 ft. >> Yeah, that's not correct. >> So they might be able to grant you
something different than what was advertised, which would be less. >> Yeah. Whenever we look at the survey, we base everything on the survey. So, I wanted to make sure the board of adjustment knows that this variance was
advertised to be 9 ft over the 16 ft to be a total of 25 ft out into the waterway. >> Thank you for that clarification, please. >> Yeah, it was completed in >> Can you come to the mic? May I have your name and address for the record, please?
Uh Tracy Huff, HUFF. Um I live at 24 Emerald Court, Satellite Beach, Florida. >> Are you a neighbor or live in the city? >> I'm the contractor. The bill >> contractor. Okay. Do you swear to tell the truth? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Um it was finished in November or the
end of October. The doc of 2025. Yes. >> Okay. October of 2025. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Miss Clemings, >> do we proceed? >> I don't think >> it sounds like they're asking for it to be reduced from what we've advertised it
for. >> That is correct. And I think under Robert's rules, we can do that. Instead of asking for the full amount, we're just asking for four feet. >> So they'd be asking for 4 feet over the 16 ft. >> Correct. >> Be 20 feet out into the waterway. >> Correct. Not Yeah. Correct.
>> So let me just understand this. So originally it should have been 9 ft out of 16 feet. And Mr. Bod, what I hear you saying it should be four feet out of what? >> Out of 16. >> Out of 16. I'm sorry. >> I'm going by what the survey says. They're the ones that are changing. What
is different than what >> four feet beyond the 16 ft? >> So let me what I'm thinking. Um since this survey is saying 9 ft out of the 16 ft, I think that we should um let's have a discussion about that. Yeah. >> You want to have a discussion? Okay.
>> Um can you give us one minute, please? >> I think we should um >> they may make us come back screwed up. >> I hope. >> Mhm. Okay. So, since our paperwork is not
correct, Mr. Bodie, what we have decided to do is that they're going to file the correct paperwork for the correct amount of feet that they need and they'll just reschedule and come back. >> So, they need to file a new survey then to correct it correctly. >> Correct. >> Is it possible though that you guys
could approve pending a new survey so we don't have to? >> Absolutely not. >> Okay. >> No, I mean I don't mean to say absolutely not, but >> let me just say this. How do you feel, Miss Clemens? Well, generally the way that we always approve it is as approved
on the survey submitted by the applicant with the date. >> Correct. >> So, right, we wouldn't be able to do that today. >> That that would have been by asking for the MAC. That would have been the maximum. But what we're doing is reducing the amount. >> So, let me say this to you. In our fair opinion,
to your advantage, it would be better to not have this one done today, this variant. reapply for the new variance of exactly what you're asking for and then come back before us. >> Can we instead of going through a new variance, we just request a modification of the existing?
>> Why don't you ask for it to be tabled to um >> I don't think they have enough time to get it all together for the >> Well, if we can >> for the July because we have to advertise it. >> I won't be here in July for sure. >> Correct. And she won't be here for July. So, I think she
>> if you table it, then it's not a whole new variance package. We can stay with A revision. >> It's a revision. >> Correct. Yeah. Make a revision >> tapered table to to the uh what's the August date? >> Yes. >> August 19th. >> August 19th.
>> Okay. Yes. >> Before we come in reduction. >> You want to make a motion? Second. >> Okay. Miss Clemens, would you like to make a motion, please? >> What was it? August. >> August 19th. >> I make a motion to table the variance
request until August 19th. I second >> 2026. >> Okay. >> Okay. We'll go for a vote. Dr. Bass. >> Agree. >> Agree. >> I vote to table to August 19th as well. >> Agree. >> Agree. >> You got
>> this. Your variants have been tabled to August 19th. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Miss Bod. Can we have the next applicant, please? >> Yes. Item H2, Tanner C and Jasmine M. jail requests two variances. Chapter 62,
article 6, Bvoulevard County Code for an accessory structure in the GU zoning classification. Application is 26V000027. It's located in district 1. >> Good afternoon. >> Hello. >> Can you state your name and address for
the record, please? >> My name is Tanner Jel. My address is 3615 Oage Street, Coco, Florida 32926. >> Okay. Do you swear to tell the truth? >> Yes. >> How can we help you today? >> So, we are in the middle of building a
house and I put up a exterior structure um for a couple different reasons. Um to store equipment that is very expensive that doesn't need the sun beating down on it. Um just to pretty much store stuff. And the
issue that we ran into is my zoning is general usage. I live in Canaveral Groves which is fairly rural rural. Um there's a mixture of a and gu acres. They're all oneacre parcels on
the the east side of 95. And being general usage, my accessory structures are limited um comparative to a. So, what I was trying to do is get a uh a variant so I could keep the the
building that I put up that's fully open. It's not enclosed. Uh there's no concrete, there's no electrical, um without having to remove it. And the goal was to hopefully be able to pay the permit fees and
uh move on from there. >> Okay. Well, I see you in district one. which is my district. And I'll start off with the questioning. So, you're here for two variants because you built the house. The exterior structure you need to hold your
equipment. >> We're in the middle of building the house, but the accessory structure is already built. >> So, that was already built with a permit or without? >> Without. >> Okay. When was that built? >> Um, September 2025.
Okay. >> When we were going through the the permit for the the for the house itself, when I spoke with the county, um, a couple different times, they said that I just had to I could build it, but I had to wait until I paid the permit fees.
And the permit fees, I think, were 12 or 13 grand for the house. So then I went ahead and built it shortly after I paid the permit fees. And I believe there was impact fees built into that price. So, I was unaware that I needed to do
anything else. >> And what is your address of this property, please? >> 3615 Osage. >> Mhm. >> Street. >> Okay. And do you have neighbors to the left and the right of you? >> I have one neighbor to the west and he volunteered to support, I guess.
>> Okay. And there's no neighbors to the right, I see. >> No, ma'am. >> You have a lot of >> Yes, ma'am. I have a canal um on both sides on the south and the east side of the property. >> Correct. Okay. Open up for questioning. Um Dr.
Bass. >> No, actually I don't have any questions. >> Miss Clemens, >> I think my only question might be for Paul. Is um is there a difference between just the open structure versus a structure that could be enclosed?
No, we're going to measure it from wherever the concrete or the wood pilings are coming up, the envelope of it. Okay. >> We wouldn't measure it for the roof. Um though, just for that. >> And then at what stage would that have not qualified with the actual building
permit of the home? >> He should have got the building permit for the home app uh applied for and then he could have got his a accessory structure permit applied for. They can be done concurrently,
but it looks like this was done without a permit. The uh accessory structure. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We did wait until the permit was paid for based off of when I talked to the county originally. >> Did you already have the structure for your single family residence in mind?
>> Yes, ma'am. Yeah, we were It took us about two years to get the permit to build this house. Um, so I could have built it 2 years ago, but I wanted to at least wait and do it after the permit we paid for the house because that's what the county had originally
mentioned to me. So, I waited 2 years and then I paid the permit fees and the impact fees for the house and then I went ahead and built the structure. Um, and we just set the trusses last weekend and we sheetated it. So, we just got the roof dried in. So, we're still far ways
out from finishing the house, but >> but at no point you were aware that the structure on the outside had to have a certain percentage of your physical single family. >> No, I had no clue it. When you drive through Canaveral Groves, I don't know if you guys have been there.
>> I'm familiar. >> There's a lot of them out there, so I didn't think that I there was really necessary. Um, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Um, it's quite smaller than most of them, but that and then we own a couple different
businesses. We build pools, so we have heavy machinery to the dig pools, um, which is not cheap, so I'd like to have it covered when it's not in use. So, that's one of the main reasons. >> Okay.
>> I don't have any other questions. >> Okay. >> Okay. And let me see if there's anyone here that would like to speak to this or not. Is there anyone here that would like to speak to this variance or not? There's an audience. Seeing none. >> Somebody came.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. You can step to his >> That's my neighbor. >> Oh, that's your neighbor. Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Just state your name and address for the record, please. >> Thomas Finley, 3635 O Street. >> Do you swear to tell the truth? >> Yes, ma'am. Always. >> Okay. How can we help you?
>> Uh, yes. I I live right next door that this structure is I can see it from my backyard and and he talked to me before he built it. He said if asked me if I had any problems I said no and uh and so I'm okay with it.
>> You're okay with it? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank Yes. Thank you. >> Okay. You come back. >> Okay. a motion. Make a motion. >> You want to make a motion? >> Go ahead.
I didn't bring my book. Go ahead. >> You can. >> Oh, I thought that's what we did. >> All right. >> I'll do it. >> No, I got it. I make a motion to approve the two variances requested as depicted on the
survey with a revision date of 48206. I'll second that. I'm going to read our six hardship questions. That special conditions and circumstances exist which are not applicable to other land structures or buildings in the applicable zoning classification. That the special
conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. that granting the variance requested would not confer with an applicant any special privilege that is denied by the provisions of this chapter to other lands, buildings or structures in identical zoning classification.
That literal enforcement of the provisions of this chapter would deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the identical zoning classification under the provisions of this chapter and will constitute unnecessary and undue hardship of the applicant. and that the variance granted is the minimum variance
that would make possible the reasonable use of the land, building or structure. And that the granting of the variance would be in harmony with the general intent and purpose of this chapter that such use variance would not be injurous to the area involved or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare. We
have a motion to approve by Miss Clemings, a second by Dr. Bass. We'll take an individualized vote. Dr. Bass, >> agree. >> Agree. I deny >> your variance have passed.
>> Passed. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Our next order of business, Mr. Bod, please. >> Yes. Item H3, John C. Ferris, request varance of chapter 62, article 6,
Bvoulevard County Code for an accessory structure and an RU-1-13 zoning classification. Applications 26B 000029 located in district 3. >> Good afternoon.
>> Howdy. >> Your name and address, please, for the record. >> John C. Ferris, 6506 Florida Dana Avenue, Melbourne Beach, Florida. >> Do you swear to tell the truth?
I certainly do. >> How could we help you today? >> I don't know. I I put a I put a shed out out in the back of my house to put the pool stuff in.
>> Okay. And uh I didn't want to put it on the north side because it would be um I think it would be a eyesore for the people on the north side and I didn't have the room to put it on the the south side. So I I put it in the back of the
in the back on the west side and um we didn't put it uh we put it too close to the uh >> what do they call it back there? The wildlife preserve. There's nobody living back there all the way to the river,
>> you know. So So that's what I did. Okay. Oh, I see this is in district three. >> Three. >> And I see this vacant right now. So, we'll just open up for questions. >> Dr. Bass. >> Okie dokie. >> So, you're backing up to a preserve, a
wildlife preserve, >> dear. The wildlife preserve in the back. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And you've encroached onto that land. Are those mango trees that are back there also? >> No. No. No. I'm not on their land. I'm just
The distance is I think it was supposed to be 5T or 10 ft and I'm closer than that. But I'm on my properties. They put up a barb wire fence back there to prevent anybody from getting onto the wildlife preserve. they
the county. >> I don't know if it's county or the state. I don't know. >> So, you're within the fence line of the county or the state from the park? >> No, I'm about 4 foot away from the barb
wire fence. I'm 4 foot on my side. >> You see the survey right there? He just has a three and a foot three and a half foot. into the east. >> And I ain't got electric or water or
nothing in the shed. It's just a a plastic shed I put back there. >> Can you move it further into your property? >> They closer to your pool.
They built a a wooden structure to platform to put it on to keep it off the ground. So they got it on that platform. I I so not without
probably having to buy a new shed. >> Okay, Miss Clemens, any questions? >> How long ago did you put this shot up? I reckon it was April. I reckon may might have been March. >> This year?
>> Oh yeah, this year. Yes. >> Other questions? >> My question is your neighbors to the left and the right. Did anyone object to you putting the shed up anyway? Any of your neighbors? >> No, they both have their sheds almost right on my property line. So, no, they
had no and it's a it's like a dollhouse shed that my wife liked. >> So, no. So, it looks nice. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Well, let me see if there's anyone here that would like to object or appro. Anyone in the audience would like to speak to this variance. You can come up
now if you like. Seeing none, you can come back. >> I come back. I come back now. >> Okay. Anybody want to make a motion on this? >> Hello. We got to go. >> I make a motion to approve the variance requested as depicted on the survey with the revision date of 37206.
>> Do we have a second? >> I second. I'mma read the six factors for the variance that special conditions and circumstances exist which are not applicable to other land structures or buildings in applicable zoning
classification that the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. However, it does because you built it a little too close. That granting the variance requested would not confer on
the applicant any special privilege that is denied by the provisions of this chapter to other lands, buildings, or structures in the identical zoning classification. That literal enforcement of the provisions of this chapter would deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in identical zoning
classification under the provisions of this chapter and will constitute unnecessary and undue hardship on the applicant. And that the variance granted us the minimum variance that would make possible the reasonable use of the land, building or structure. And that the granting of the variance will be in
harmony with the general intent and purpose of this chapter. That such use variance would not be injurous to the area involved or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare. We have a motion on the floor to approve by vice chair Miss Clemings, a second by Sonia. Um
again, we'll do a individualized vote. Dr. Bass. >> No. >> I vote yes. Miss Clemens, >> I approve. >> Your variance have been passed. Thank you. >> I go home now. >> I'm sorry. >> I go home now. >> You Yes, you can go home now.
>> And this here, somebody left that there. >> Oh, okay. I think some >> Oh, >> okay. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. >> You're welcome. Have a good day, Mr. Bod. Next applicant, please. >> Yes. Item H4, William G. and Paula J.
Neighbor, request two variances of chapter 62, article 6, Bvar County Code for an accessory structure in an RU-1-13 zoning classification. Applications 206 V0030
located in district 3. >> Okay. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. >> Good. Can you each take your time um state your name and address for the record and I'll swear you both in together but speak into the mic please.
>> Uh my name is Andrew Katropa and I'll be the uh building contractor. >> Okay. >> William Neighbor, 380 Ncomomas Way, Melbourne Beach, Florida 32951. >> Okay. Do you both swear to tell the truth, the whole truth? Nothing but the truth? >> Yes, ma'am. I do. >> Thank you. Who would like to present
first? >> Go ahead. So, um, today, um, proposing for two variances. We're, um, trying to build a 25x 25 accessory structure on this property that, um, William is living on currently. There's an existing
home. And, um, there's a section of property that's about 102t long on his front yard. Um, and the 25 ft setback on the front from the front property line
really pinches off the uh this 100 foot stretch property. So, we have it plotted on the survey. Um, we're observing all the other setbacks as far as uh zoning goes. 10 foot from
the from the canal line, 7 and 1/2 on the sides. The only the only setback uh that we would be encroaching on would be the front 25. And being that this is on a radial part of the road and how the
property is cut, the accessory structure is going to be uh not in line with the front of the home. So, um I've got a few pictures here to kind of pictures are worth a thousand words. This is the
There we go. That's the front of the property. I'm front of the property referring to right where the the boat is and that's where the accessory structure would be would be going in and >> Okay. Excuse me. So, we're not looking
and and at an accessory structure. You're planning on putting >> That is correct. Yeah. I haven't I haven't built anything or broken ground. >> It's would be in front of the where the boat is now. Yes, ma'am. >> Okay, that's >> absolutely. >> And to go a little further, you can
>> here. It's kind of a >> wonderful world world of AI. >> So, >> okay. >> Okay. So, we would be mimicking the the home. So, it would be a a concrete block, metal roof, have the same stucco detail as on the side of his garage
right there. So, it's going to be aesthetically pleasing. Um, saw around it. We're not going to uh we aren't proposing to have any more um any other uh access to the garage other than what's the current driveway is. >> Okay. >> So,
>> and what's going to be housed inside of that? >> Um cars and more importantly fishing equipment. >> Correct. No electrical, anything like that. >> Uh we'll have power. I've confirmed with FPNL that we can um actually put its own service on the building
>> so we wouldn't have to come off the house service. So they they've confirmed they can do that as well. Miss Clemens >> just trying to get your >> what would be the reason why you couldn't conform to the setbacks? Why couldn't you push the property back?
Push the structure back. >> Well, then we would be encroaching on the uh 10 foot from the canal, >> the rear setback. >> Yeah. Yes, ma'am. There's it's exactly on the 10 foot line. >> Yes, ma'am. Okay. >> So, in other words, what you're saying is all his land property. That's the
only place you could put this because of the way >> his shape of his property. >> Yeah. It's a very odd shaped property, but it's it's a it's a really good stretch of land right there, too. It's quite quite a bit. >> And behind his property is just wildlife, right? >> Yeah. There used to be uh grapefruit
groves back there, but they're all abandoned. It's and it it's on a canal and to the oops sorry to the left of the structure if we're looking at it there there are no other homes that's this is actually the last lot >> on that side of the block that >> correct
>> is buildable >> and how do your neighbor feel on the right of you >> all my neighbors have no problem sorry >> that's okay >> none of my neighbors have any issues with what I'm doing they I've I've actually presented all the pictures and diagrams and they're good with But
>> okay, good. Okay. Well, let me just check with the audience if that's all you have. >> Wait, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Miss >> on this picture with with the house here. This PA, this big piece of land here is who owns that? Is that county?
Is it Who owns what's behind you? >> Right. Right behind it on the other side of the canal. Yeah, >> that's county property. >> That's There's a a park back there. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. So that big piece of land
and uh with trees and etc belongs to the county. >> Yes ma'am. >> Okay. >> Any other question? >> I guess the other question would be is there an option to reduce the size of the out building? >> If we reduced it we were actually thinking about going a little bit larger
but to store store some vehicles. We didn't want to get too greedy, but the store of vehicles and and the space he's going to need, um we we would like to keep it the size it is. >> So, with the size, you you're going to place a car inside that structure.
>> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. >> Garage overhead garage doors. >> Overhead garage. >> Yes, ma'am. That'll be facing the driveway. So, you won't see that from the road. There'll be a >> So, two cars could be placed inside. >> Yes, ma'am. Okay. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Any other question? >> No other questions. Okay, >> I can make the motion on this one if you want. >> Yes. Okay. Let me just check to see if there's anyone here to speak in favor. Is there anyone in the audience like to speak in favor to this variance? Yay or nay? Seeing none. Go ahead, Dr. B.
>> Okay. Uh I make a motion to approve uh the two variances as depicted on the survey dated 306206. >> Do we have a second? I'll second. We have a motion on the floor for Dr. Bass to approve. A second
by Miss Clemings. I'm going to read the six hardship questions. One, that special conditions and circumstances exist which are not applicable to other land, structures, or buildings in applicable zoning classification. That the special conditions and
circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. and that granting the variance requested would not confer an applicant any special privilege that is denied by the provisions of this chapter to other lands, buildings, or structures in the identical zoning classification. And that literal enforcement of the
provisions in this chapter would deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in identical zoning classification under the provisions of this chapter will constitute unnecessary and undue hardship on the applicant. that the variance granted is the minimum
variance that would make possible the reasonable use of the land, building or structure. And I'm glad you said you wanted to go larger, but we're not going larger. And that the granting of the variance will be in harmony with the general intent and purpose of this chapter and that such use variance would not be
injurous to the area involved or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare. We have a motion on the floor to approve by Dr. Bass, a second by Miss Clemens, individualized vote. Dr. pass agree approve >> approve
>> your variance have passed >> thank you >> thank you have a great day >> thank you too >> Mr. Bod, our next applicant, please. >> Yes. Item H5, Joseph Anthony Joseph and Sharon Nan von Venture request the variance of chapter
62, article 6, Bvoulevard County Code for a pool screen enclosure in an SR zoning classification application 26B 00033 located in district two. Wow.
Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. >> I just need you to each one individually state your name and address for the record and I'll swear you both in. >> Anthony Anthony Bond Venture, 6305 Moonrise Drive, Merit Island.
>> Sharon Bond Adventure, >> address 6305 Moonrise Drive, Merit Island. >> Do you both swear to tell the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. How can we help you? Today, >> we uh we put a pool in and the the pool was approved with a footing 35 ft from
the house. The screen company came in and put a permit to put the screen right on that 35 ft line and it was denied because they said we were too close to the end of the property. We were 3 ft we were 2 feet too close or 3 ft too close,
whatever it was. We have 38 ft. We were putting at 35 ft. They said we had to be 5 feet 5T from the line. We supposed to be at 33 feet, but that's where the pool is. Okay. Well, I see this is in district 2. Miss
Clemens, you want to start off with questioning, please? >> Sure. >> I just want to confirm the pool is in. >> Yes, the pool is in. >> That's all I need to know. >> That's all the questions. No questions. >> Okay. >> Well, wait. Let me just ask this. So,
the pool is in already >> and you just need a variance to >> put the screen in >> for the screen of the pool. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. Miss Cle Oh, let me check with the audience. Is there anyone here that would like to speak to this variance? Yay or nay?
>> Okay. Seeing none, Miss Clemens, you make a motion. I make a motion to approve the variance requested as depicted on the survey provided by the applicant with a date of 372026. >> All second. We have a motion on the floor to approve by Miss Clemens, a second by Dr. Bass. And I'll read out
six hardship questions. One, that special conditions and circumstances exist which are not applicable to other land, structures, or buildings in the applicable zoning classification. And that special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. That granting the variance requested would not confer
an applicant any special privilege that is denied by the provisions of this chapter to other lands, buildings or structures in identical zoning classification. That literal enforcement of the provisions of this chapter would deprive the applicant the rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in
an identical zoning classification. And that the variance granted is the minimum variance that would make possible the reasonable use of the land, building or structure. and that the granting of the variance will be in harmony with the general intent and purpose of this chapter and that such use variants would
not be injurous to the area involved or otherwise defumental to the public welfare. We have a motion to approve by Miss Clemings, a second by Dr. Bass. Individualized bo vote Dr. Bass agree approve your varants have passed thank you thank
you >> Mr. The vote on next one please. >> Yes. Item H6. Michael A and Heather M. Shannon request two variances chapter 62 article 6 Boulevard County Code for an accessory
structure in RR-1 zoning classification application 26B 000034 located in district 1. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon board staff. >> Good afternoon. I just want you to state your name and address for the record
individually and I'll swear you both in into the mic. >> Michael Shannon, 2427 South Pacer Lane, Cocoa, Florida 32926. >> Okay. And it's Heather Shannon, 2427 South Pacer Lane, Coco 32926.
>> Okay. Do you both swear to tell the truth? >> Yes, we do. >> Thank you. How can we help you this afternoon? >> So, we are seeking a variance. We are new to the area. We uh we moved from Valuchia County and purchased this house in Coco and uh my wife works here in
this uh beautiful county now and I still work in Valuchia County as a garbage man. She works at a school and we purchased this property and come to find out uh there are some structures on it that do not fit the code and we were asking for variance for for these
structures that are on there. um they were all pre-existing and uh in order to I guess if if we were had to if we had to tear these down or whatnot, you know, it would really turn our world
upside down just the cost to do that and then um you know, we purchased the the the home with those structures on it. So all that stuff was uh counted in towards the price. So, we're just asking for variance. >> Okay. But you're asking for two
variants, correct? >> Yeah. I was not aware until I guess after we had submitted the first variance that we were actually needed another variants um because of I guess the square footage on on all the accessory structures. They have a couple
open our car ports, metal car ports and a shed um that I guess uh are outside the the limit of what's allowed. >> Okay. Well, I see you in district one and that is my district. Um I just want
to go over this with you because I tried to come to your property, right? I think I got a little turned around but I tried my best to find it. But you're like almost in a COVA sack. Correct. >> Correct. Yes. >> Okay. >> Uh 95 is actually right behind us. >> Correct.
>> Yeah. Which I don't like. >> So that is 95 behind you. >> Yes. >> But and then it's all at those trees and then that's your So that's all of your property right there. >> Yeah. And there's a canal back there too that separates. >> Correct. Correct. Okay. And everything that's on this property was there when
you purchased it. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. All right. Miss Clayman, you have any questions? >> I do. What's initiating the discovery of these variance requests? Is there anything? >> What's initiating the discovery? >> Are you trying to do something else or
>> No, no, not trying to do anything else. >> Came across that they were >> not compliant and you're legitimizing them. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Dr. Bass, >> actually that was my question is how did you discover that
they were not within code? uh was not aware of the the second one that we're aware of um made aware of. But the first one as we were going through the purchase of the property um very late in the game after we had
already put all our ducks in line to make the move, we found out about the uh the bigger building that it was not >> ah >> so when they did the survey >> Okay. So, let's just talk about the things that's on your property. Can you
name them for me, please? >> Sure. Um, >> you have pictures. >> Okay, great. Let me put the survey up there. >> Um, >> we just purchased a new survey, too. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, >> okay. >> Before we did this, just to make sure everything
>> So, you can see the culde-sac and then the driveway goes right to the garage and the house there. Um, then there's a small fence around the back. Right next to the home, there's a metal uh Yeah. Yeah. Right there. >> Hold on. It's backwards for me when I
look at this. >> Yep. Right next to the home home is a metal carport. >> Um I'm not sure when that was put in, uh what year or whatnot. Uh directly behind that, straight back is another one. Same
exact uh carport, metal, all open carport. And then right next to that is a it's a uh Smith's shed, enclosed shed. And then to the right of that is a building. Um
so yeah, those are all the structures. >> And what's inside that building? >> Uh currently there are wrestling mats in there. We uh we are a family of many kids and uh it's actually part of why we wanted that. Uh they have a lot of fun
in there. We were using it last night. So, >> okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any other questions? No other questions? >> Okay. >> No other questions. >> Well, let me just step aside and see. Is it you have anything else you want to say by chance? >> Not unless you wanted to see photos or
anything like that. It's not >> If you want to show it to us, you can. >> That way it's not an eyesore or anything for anybody. >> Okay. >> Okay. The other thing is our neighbor is he doesn't have any issues with anything. We get along with both of our neighbors um next to us.
>> I just need an album that way you can can see what >> Oh, no. It's on your phone. Oh, no. It's okay. It's okay. No, no, no, no. That's fine. Okay. So, just step aside. Let me speak to the voice. Is there anyone here that want to speak to this? come up please and state your name and address for the record and let me know if you're
for it or against it. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Good afternoon. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Pull a microphone down to your mouth. Thank you. >> May I have your name, please, for the record?
>> Yes. My name is Fabola Frank. Okay. >> Fabio L. >> And your address, please. >> 2446 South P Lane. Uh, it is on the county, but it's a Coco mail address. >> Are you a neighbor? >> 926. Yes, I am.
>> Okay. Okay. Are you for this or against this? >> I am against it. >> You're against it? Okay. Please tell us why. >> Um, okay. I um I live in that sack. >> Yes. And uh I think that
the people that owned this before and this couple from what I understand are friends and that's correct. There is a wrestling >> Wait, speaking to the mic cuz I need to >> Okay. There's a wrestling uh business there. >> There's a wrestling business there. Yes,
there is >> on his property. Is that what you're saying? >> And the pro Yes. >> Okay. And I do see the pickup trucks for the last two years come in to drop off the customers. >> Okay, wait. Let me stop you. I'm not talking about the last two years. I'm
talking about this variance right now in 2026. >> Continue because those people moved very quietly. >> Correct. >> And then this couple moved in. >> Correct. >> Okay. So for the last two months they have lived there.
>> For the last two months. What? For the last two months, I've seen him there. I think you've seen people there. >> I think he was closed the deal or whatever it was on April, the beginning of April. >> Okay, let me stop you again. I'm sorry. You're going to have to speak to me very clearly.
>> And I'm going to tell you why. I just need to be very clear. >> Yes. >> He's here for a variance to legitimize the things on his property. You're saying you object to it and I need to know what is your objection. What is your objection? The objection is that we'll continue to move that bar.
>> Continue to move the barn. >> The bar. So, first the building was built. I understand because I came here three times. >> I am I am an architect and an engineer. Okay. Okay. >> I came here three times to this
building, this complex to tell them that there was not a building permit to build that building. Furthermore, we have which maybe they don't know about it. We have that is a drest restricted uh property subdivision.
Uh, >> okay. That's a unit four. >> That's unit four of the ranch subdivision. That number eight. I own number seven and number eight lots in there.
And um their property their property is number 12. Everyone that comes through there to their place at the end of the culde-sac are speeding bringing pickup trucks and customers to that building which is
being used and what I'm seeing right now is going to continue to be used. It's not a wrestling. I This is a huge building and that is a business to train martial arts. That's what that is. I
think this is just validating those buildings which were built with no permit so that they continue to do the same thing that the other people did. As you can see, she might be working here. He still has a business out in Valia or
whatever. But we the people of this subdivision have to put up with this which I will complain about it eventually. But I came here three times and nothing was done
by the building department and I can I don't can tell you exactly where I went but yes I know where I went and I spoke to the lady in the office and she told me she was taken care of. That is that whole subdivision is a RAM is a ranch subdivision and it's
a D restricted subdivision and in case they don't know about it cuz apparently they bought a house that they did not go and do research on it. But I will be enforcing that. So if that is the purpose of this, all they're doing is
validating those buildings that were built with no permit. So that then we continue to move that bar. >> Okay, >> that is my opinion. >> Okay, >> so that is what I am because I think all we're doing is continuing to validate
what is already did not follow the procedure of going and getting a permit to build these buildings. And if they didn't know that those buildings were too large by so many feet, they should have known that. So I don't believe that. And if you want me, I can raise my
hand that I'm telling the truth. But I personally do not believe that they did not know that those buildings were not um properly built and at the very minimum and I know that they're u a
neighbor at least one of them that know he's not happy with it. But what you're doing, I'm sorry, is you're putting this into the neighbors. And of course, neighbors don't want to get involved in this. And but I do because I'm old, I'm going
to be 84 years old next week. >> And I guess if somebody, you know, want to do away with me, they come. But what I'm saying is that yes, I know that there is a problem with the neighbors that is a eyes sore where it is. people
move there to have the land and the building is an aluminum building that's against the restrictions and this is just a continuation of what was there before and I do have a problem with it. >> Okay, thank you. Is there anyone else in
the audience like to speak to this variance? Please come on down. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. You're finished. You can have a seat, please. I'm speaking to them. Thank you. >> Thank you for sharing today. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. >> You're welcome. >> She
>> Okay. Good afternoon. Just state your name and address for the record and then I'll swear you both in >> the mic. I can't hear you. >> 2562 >> mile from Fabio. >> Okay. Your name? Jane Pancha 2562 Meadow
Lane. same address as him. >> Okay. Do you both swear to tell the truth? >> Absolutely >> I do. Okay. How can we help you? Are you for it or against it? >> Well, I I understand the hardship of the building being there, but what what's the ulterior motive for the um variance
if they are going to because I've had to deal with this before with people on our block or on our street where they bring a business in and then eventually the county has to get them out of there. So, I would just ask them, you know, I don't I don't want the the building to be
taken down, my opinion, but I certainly don't want clubs or other people using that building. And if the ulterior motive is to have a wrestling club or MMA club there and you have your friends come in there and conduct that type of
workout, that's not what it's supposed to be for. You bring an extra traffic into the to the subdivision. you know, it's already somehow it passed somehow it got through code and they were able to buy a house um without a 1700 square
foot structure um being built on the property which kind of baffles me. I don't know how that gets by, but um you know, I think it's a hardship case to take the structure down, but if you want it up because you're going to do business some type or some type of
athletic event or club meetings and bringing in extra people, extra cars and traffic, I have an issue with that. >> Okay. And what would you like to say? >> Thank you. Uh mine is similar. Um the neighborhood with the deed restrictions that were brought up by the our other
neighbor. We live a little bit further up. The beauty of our neighborhood is the quietness and everybody being on one to five acres. It used to be um I'm not going to belabor it, but it used to be perhaps for horses and things like that. So it was it was uh more open, right,
but quiet. We really are against businesses being brought in and we've noticed a few people have taken advantage since co you know people working from home. And that's totally fine. But there are people who have begun to do things that we've fortunately is changing a little bit. Brought in like mechanic shops. You
know, you had a somebody that had uh some money in earlier years had a bigger garage or a facility, something like that. The neighborhood's not made for environmentally conting. It's not made for a lot of cars coming and going. That's our only concern. I do
understand the problem of buying a house and suddenly realizing there's a building that wasn't supposed to be there. But I I don't again I don't know how that happens either. So you guys can maybe work that out. >> Okay. >> But I really I think you know he has to be honest that hey this is not going to
be used for anything else other than >> bringing in traffic. Not a good idea. >> You know our family our immediate family and that's it. It's just for storage parking cars want to roll around. I get it with family, but not bringing in friends and businesses and extended, you
know, friendships. >> So, I just like to say um maybe it's me, I don't know. But when you purchase a house, how do people tell you who can come to your house or who can't come to your house? That's the only thing I'm trying. >> That was that was a bad statement. >> Yeah, that was a bad statement. Not a good Yeah, that wasn't a good business.
I'm a homeowner and I I refuse to bring in business with a lot of people is kind of our concern. >> Get the business part. That's really it. >> Okay. Well, thank you. >> Wait, we have a question. What's your question, Miss Clemens? >> Is is a club a business? So, you get
into that definition. >> We will do that point. Miss Clemens. >> Um, as for the homeowners association, are you actively registered and is it voluntary or is it mandatory? >> No. No. No. There is no there is no classic HOA there. The deed restrictions
are what they what they are or were >> written in the late '7s and they're very clear, but there is a lot of disconnect from people abiding by the deed restrictions. I will I will admit that that that's the case obviously. So, >> um it it really was built for a
particular type of, you know, scenario and um there is no HOA or anything like that. There's just people having to get up and go to the county and talk about things occasionally. So, okay, that's fear. Thank you for being honest. Thank you. >> Is there anyone else in the audience?
Sir, in the back, are you here to speak to a foe for this? >> No. >> Okay. >> I'd like to also uh mention that there is an active contractor licensing code case on the building for uh building structure on the property without any
permits. And it's still active. And this was done in 2023. So, it's been three years that this uh code case has been active. >> So, you closed on the property with an active code case. >> So, come back to the reg um to the
>> Go ahead. M close. >> So, is there a reason why you did? >> Is there a reason why we closed on the property? >> Yeah. With an active code case. >> Yeah. Because we were that far along to purchase the property. Is there a connection between the previous owner and you guys? >> We know them. We are not friends with
them. They are acquaintance. That's how we found out about it. Um, but as far as a business and everything, there is no intent to have a business on our property. Solely for us and our family, that's it. Um,
>> I mean, if we have like our kids do have friends, we have they're they range between four and 10 and we have a 19year-old and a 22y old. So, they are going to make friends and friends want to come over if they see the building. They want to go in there, play dodgeball
or whatever they need to, but they're to have a business. We're not That's not what we're trying to do. We're not trying to do what the last people did. >> Gotcha. >> It's more for our family to get better. We moved here for the schools, my school that I work at. Um there's more
opportunities to get scholarships for them by having that available 247. And and the last thing we want and thank you for the neighbors. I thank you for coming up here and sharing your concerns. I don't want to be any, you know, >> yeah, >> pain in the butt to any of our
neighbors. >> Um, unfortunately, the first time I I met our neighbor here, >> uh, our kids were making too much noise on the street, running over some sticks, you know, and, you know, she yelled at her kids. I went over there, talked to her, introduced myself, but that's
unfortunately the first time I uh met her. I would wish it was on better terms, but it was yelling at my kids, which okay, they were putting sticks on the road, running over it um with their bikes. >> So, this neighbor here is to the right or the left of you?
>> She's to the right. She's like, >> I did notice she was driving back in her culde-sac. I don't know why she's driving back in her >> culdeac. >> There's no reason to go back there. >> They have to drive past her house.
>> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, let me ask this is this is what I don't understand. Why do you care? >> Why do I care about >> legitimize the building? >> Why does it matter to legitimize the building at this point? because
>> well I was told that there was a active like >> isn't this separate than the code of the code? >> I'm sorry what was that? >> I'm I'm just trying to get to the reasoning of why you want to legitimize the buildings. >> Yeah, I was told >> under what preface? Because the code was
if it was active when they closed, they had to sign something >> uh case against them for not having a building permit. I'm not sure if they're trying to get the building permit and they have to get the variance to be able to get the building. >> They're trying to make it right and like if say we were to ever sell it in the
future, they're gonna the next people are going to run into the same problem. So why not fix it now if we're willing to >> understand, but I also there's there's something that's not clicking as to why would you sign up for something >> that wasn't necessarily your problem.
>> So that's where my reservation is because it doesn't feel authentic. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that and and I'm all for using your space the way you want to use your space, but it's this isn't a brand new discovery. You couldn't have closed without acknowledging that open code. >> Correct. Period. >> And and we knew about that as stated
before so far along in the in the process and where we were at with >> I understand >> the move and everything. We we did know that and we did >> but also you had sellers feet to the fire and they could have worked diligently to close it out. Mhm.
>> I I'm very familiar with this. I saw your your folder. It's Island Title. That wasn't a brand new discovery right before closing. I deal with them on a regular basis. They caught that way in the beginning. >> Yes. But time frame like >> I understand that, but I also know that
that was your premium time to make the seller perform >> and you chose not to do that. So that's where my dis that's where my disconnect is with this because it doesn't seem it doesn't seem authentic or legitimate. >> Yeah. >> So what do you want to do with the building? Do you want to make it a
business? Do you want >> Oh, you don't want to make business state if there's like an active thing against our our taken care of. I don't like that. So I I would think the variance and then getting it permitted it would be the way
to go. Um, that way I don't have anything on our property pending. I I want to whatever we have to do to get it right with permits and for the building or whatever. But I I think this would be the first
step is getting the variance. >> That's again like where I'm not where it's not flowing for me because if you were trying to close out what was actively open, >> then that should be this is is this the resolution or is this not the resolution? But you don't even know that answer. So that makes me curious as to
why you want the variance on the front end. >> What would happen if we bought it and we I don't even know how to word it. >> I think you don't we have to get the variance in order to get the the >> That's why don't you know that answer? I guess that's my question. >> I do. That's what I was told that we
have to get the variance in order to even get the building permitted because it's because it's not within code. >> Why? How could we get it permitted? It's an active open permit. >> It's an active not by me. >> Right.
>> They don't have a building permit yet. They have a code case against them for having a building without a permit. >> Okay. >> So, they're probably trying to My thoughts is they're want to legitimize the structure to be able to apply for the >> code,
>> building permit. You could have always applied for it >> and then it would been held up because it doesn't meet the zoning code. >> Nobody's applied for a building permit yet for it though.
>> So there's not an act an open permit. >> It's a code violation, not not >> Yeah, that's what we were told. There was a code violation and I guess brought up by our neighbor here previously. Is there any like knowledge as to when the code violation began?
>> Yes. The complaint was received on 122122. Initial investigation was started on January 26, 2023. >> We should think of >> I don't know. I just feel like there's a
inheritance of issues. >> I agree. >> And I don't know that it'll go away with granting the variance in my opinion. it doesn't necessarily go away. Um, you've got kind of a catch 22 here. >> Yeah,
>> they're trying to retroactively get a building permit. Uh, but they can't because >> they need the variance. >> The size of the structure is outside of code. So the variance at best to legitimize the structure would allow
them to apply for the permit whether it gets approved or not is another issue. >> Don't want to get tearing down for no reason when we're trying to make it right. >> I guess the next question is what's the
next step with the code violation? >> I'm not real sure. It looks like the last interaction was um with the island title that uh they had contractor licensing had with them.
>> So let me just ask a question. I'm sorry. So if the variance is not granted what happens then they >> you're saying the code violation. >> It's the code violation. >> Okay. So they would have >> they still had they still had the contractor's
licensing for having a building without a permit on the on the property. >> So that's still going to go on. >> Okay. So to stop that they need a variance. >> They're going to need to get the variance so that they can apply for the building permit.
>> So let me ask you two. Um you're stating to us right now you're not trying to open a business in that building. You just trying to legitimize it so you can get out of the cold thing. Correct. >> Okay. >> But it doesn't stop like, you know, our kids still coming over and bringing their friends and wrestling, but it's
not going to be anything like what they had described it. We're not going to have people going in and out, >> traffic, selling tickets, popcorn. Like, I don't want all that traffic in front of my house either. But I get it. I get it. But you're saying you're not opening a business. >> No. Okay. >> So, what's the what's the extent of this
wrestling? >> I mean, we're fully vested in our kids in the sport of wrestling. That's a sport. >> Yeah, it's I mean they're very good. It's >> Yeah, my my son graduated college wrestling at Southeast Southeastern
University. Just graduated. So, I mean, my whole family's wrestled, so we're fully vested in it. >> There isn't a secret LLC out there. No. >> No. And by the way, I don't have time to
run another business uh club or anything like that. I work long hours as a garbage man. So, >> well, I think that for me >> at night I'm we're barely home. >> Well, you're home enough to have her
acknowledge the traffic and >> not since I've been there. I would I would like to hear what she say since April because if there was a lot of traffic prior, I don't know about it, but we're the only ones that go to our
house. I do have four old vehicles um that are parked in the yard. I got a 2000 pickup truck, F-150. I got a 2002 Chevy. I have a 2007 Tahoe. >> I don't have anybody that goes to our
house. We're new to the area. >> You want to have a discussion? >> Sure. >> Any more questions after this? >> No. >> Okay. One sec. discussion. >> Yes. I don't know. What's next? Okay.
Well, after that discussion, >> we do our Do we have a motion on the floor? >> There. Is there a motion to approve this variance? >> No. Seeing none, this this variance didn't pass.
>> So, what's our next step? I mean, the building's still going to be there. >> You have to have a vote >> a vote for >> to deny >> approval >> motion and and vote to deny if that's how you're so inclined. >> Right. So, we'll make a we There's no
motion on the floor. It's a motion to disapprove the variance. >> Yeah. that if that if that's you know the outcome of >> that's the outcome. Yeah. >> Um individualized vote Dr. Bass. >> No. >> Sonia. No. >> Well, do do a motion have it seconded to
deny? >> Do we have a motion to deny? >> Second. >> Do we have a motion to deny the threat? >> Yes. >> A motion to deny the variances by Dr. Vass. A second by Miss Clemings. Now individualized vote. Dr. Bass.
You're You're approving the denial. >> I'm opposing. >> Yeah, you're you're agreeing to the deny. >> I'm agreeing to deny the variance. >> I agree to deny the variance.
>> Okay. I was going to approve the variance, but the variance have been denied. >> So then again, what what's our next step? >> The next step is what, Mr. Bodie? You could reduce the size of it and get a permit for it. >> That's undue hardship. I can't I can't
do that. >> So, we're going to like pay 30,000 to take it down. >> I don't know what it would cost to do. >> Don't me either. >> I don't know if it could be reduced in size, too, to meet the requirements. Right now, it's quite a bit of a square
footage over the requirement. >> So, what's our options besides >> those are your options? >> So, basically tear down. I think it's >> tear it down and it cost money >> to rebuild something. >> Be okay.
>> It's made out of metal, isn't it? >> That's going to cost us to go for $100,000. >> Pardon? >> It's going to cost us a metal building. >> $100,000. >> You don't know. >> Is she allowed to say something?
>> Can she come up to the podium now? >> Okay. First of all, >> well, that matter's been resolved. So, there's >> need to get up in front of the microphone, please. >> The first thing I want to say is this. There is no HOA.
There is an active D restriction, which a lot of neighbors, I'm very sure, don't know about that because they don't give it to them when they buy the lots. I do have it because I have been there since 1979.
I had the original with me but I reduced it into legal into letter size so that I could pass it around because I will do this because I have noticed that the neighborhood is going to pots. >> What's the resolution? >> Indeed restrictions are not relevant to this proceeding.
>> But what I'm trying to say is that because you asked if there was an HOA. Yes, there is the restrictions which renews itself automatically every 10 years. It is active just people don't know it but I will make sure that people do it
including these people. >> Okay. But right now that's irrelevant. Let me let me tell you. >> No no no ma'am. Ma'am I'm going to stop I'm going to stop this discussion right now cuz I was going to suggest something so that they don't have to tear down the place. >> Oh well you guys can do that privately.
>> Yeah you don't have to discuss that out there. But right now right now the varants have been passed not to pass their varants. So if you have a resolution for them, I suggest you definitely discuss it with them right
outside. But right now, this is this variance is done. Do I read the >> That's fine with me. You know, >> ma'am, can you can you please step away from the podium? >> Thank you. >> One of the things you could do is if you
could revise the building to a different size, you could re apply for a variance. So, if you could reduce it, I don't know, 100 square feet or something like that, you could reapply for another variance. I don't know if it'll have to.
>> So, um is there is there a way to um I guess object to you guys? >> You can take it to a court. >> You have 30 days to do that. >> Council, is it court or is it council? >> Take it to court. Yeah. To get it into
the court system within 30 days. If you disagree with the way the outcome was, >> so there's no way to put this in on the council. >> If you would like, we can talk to you more after the meeting is over with. >> Mhm. >> Okay.
>> But for right now, >> they go to council. >> It's been denied. >> I know they go off your recommendations, but >> sure. We can >> Is that an option? >> We can speak to you after >> Definitely speak to the m >> the meeting is over. When the meeting's over, we can speak to you further. >> All right. appreciate it
>> for this. We're >> okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay, >> I see that concludes our meeting for today. This meeting has been adjourned. The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public
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