uh roll call please councilman albanes councilwoman ptero councilwoman D young here councilman feeman here councilwoman Travers here vice president ambino here wait no vice president minikino
thank you here president amberino sorry here uh at this time I actually would like to invite some honored guests up to the podium Anna Molly Lily and Jackson are going to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance everyone else please
rise all right are you guys ready we'll let you start conratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the repic for stands one nation under God
indivisible with liy and justice for all for a moment silence be seated thank you fantastic job uh Madam clerk please accept the reports from Municipal officers yep and uh I'd like to ask for a motion
in a second to approve the minutes from the February 11th meeting motion second roll call please councilman albanes abstain councilwoman D young yes councilman feeman yes councilwoman Travers yes vice president minikino yes
president embo good yes uh we'll now move on to the consent agenda portion all matters listed under item consent agenda will be enacted by one Motion in the form listed below if discussion is desired on any item this item will be removed from the consent agenda and will be considered
separately thank you item 41 authorized receipt of bids roadway improvements to North Lake Drive Olive court and Vista Court councilman Fineman thank you council president this resolution authorizes the receipt of bids for roadway improvements to North Lake Drive Olive court and Vista Court this project
generally consists of the reserving North Lake Drive Olive court and Vista Court thank you thank you item 42 authorize Award of contract mobile ice cream truck vice president minino thank you this resolution authorizes an award of contract for the mobile ice cream
truck to cool concessions brick bid notices were provided to 122 prospective biders from our biders list and five picked up bid packages one bid was received with a bid amount of $1,500 this bid will provide an ice cream truck for Windward Beach Park Traders Cove
Marina and other various Township Park year round thank you thank you item 43 authorize a word of contract Grant Services councilwoman D young this resolution authorizes an award of contract for for Grant services to the Aubrey group Elizabeth notices were
provided to three firms from our bid bidder list and nine requested the RFP package the township planner and business administrator reviewed the proposals and recommended the Aubrey group based on their comprehensive proposal thank you moving on to item 44 authorize Award of contract ambulance
remount through savic buying group National Cooperative councilwoman Travers thank you council president this resolution authorizes the award of a contract for an ambulance remount in the amount of $2,265 to SIV ambulances langor
Pennsylvania the contract is being awarded through savic buying group a national Cooperative thank you thank you item four five authorize Award of contract installation of plumbing system in Special Operations building vice president minina thank you this resolution authorizes an award of
contract in the amount of $67,900 56 with Magic Touch construction Keyport for the installation of a plumbing system in the Brick Township Police Department Special Operations building this contract is being awarded through
Educational Services Commissions a purchasing Cooperative thank you thank you item 46 authorized close out change order roadway improvements to courtshire drive councilwoman Dion this resolution authorizes a change out close order in the amount of $
5,924 39 with moo Inc for the roadway improvements to courtshire drive project this change order reflects a decrease in the project as a result of the final as built qu quality quantities item 47 authorized support
publishing legal notices on official government website councilman albanes thank you council president this resolution supports publishing legal notices on official government websites as more print Publications evolve the digital versions only it makes sense for municipalities to have the option of
using official government websites to post legal notices this not only allows municipalities to adapt to Public's interest and digital communication it also saves money on print advertisements thank you item 48 authorized special events permit St Paul's United Methodist Church Chris
grindle Market councilwoman De Young this resolution authorizes a special event permit for St Paul's United Methodist Church Chris Kindle event from 1:30 to 8:00 p.m. on December 6 the event will be held at the church on Herbertsville Road thank thank you
item 49 authorized special events permit Church of epiphany Italian Feast I'm going to read this one I go to it every year this resolution authorizes a special event permit for the Epiphany Church Italian Feast on August 14th 15
16th and 17th the Italian Feast will be held from 5: to 10: p.m. each of those days at the church on theal road and it's fantastic moving on to item 410 410A is an inspection fund release for Block 323
lot 15 thank you madam clerk item 411 411a is% DAV Widow a veteran deduction for Block 38316 Lot 10 11b is tax over payments for 2024 block 38334 lot 17
block 8705 lot 113 11c is tax over payments for 2025 at Block 14 29.02 Lot 2 block 12 7973 lot 7 and block 3809 lot 35 thank you this brings us to the end
of the consent agenda I'm going to ask for a motion for a second on the consent agenda motion second open to council for questions on the consent agenda seeing none Clos councel open to the public for questions on these
resolutions only seeing none close public roll call please councilman albanes yes councilwoman D young yes yes councilman Fineman yes councilwoman Travers yes vice president Menino yes president ambino yes thank you item 412 Bill
resolution be it resolved by the township Council of the township of brick that the following bills be paid and that the mayor and clerk be and are hereby authorized to draw orders on the treasurer for the amounts of the same computer Bill resolution in the amount of 12, 98791 60 thank you is there a motion and
second on the computed Bill resolution motion second open to council for questions seeing none open to public for questions on the computer Bill resolution only seeing none Clos public roll call
councilman albanes yes councilwoman D young abstain Community Services Inc Northern ocean Habitat for Humanity yes to the rest please councilman Fineman yes councilwoman Travers yes vice president minikino yes president Amino yes item
413 the resolved by the township Council of the township of brick that the following bills be paid and that the mayor and clerk be and are hereby authorized to draw orders on the treasure for the amounts of the same manual Bill resolution in the amount of 2,767 n31 motion in a second motion second
open to council for questions on the manual Bill resolution seeing none close Council open a public for questions on the manual Bill resolution only seeing none closed public roll call please councilman albanes yes
councilwoman D young yes councilman Fineman yes councilwoman Travers yes president vice president minikino yes president amberino yes does that bring us to public comments well did you announce that the second reading of the ordinance was
going to be held until March 11th no can you announce that now yeah I I did yes the ordinance on second reading authorizing the acceptance and donation of property known as block 12225 Lots 56567 571 and 577 and block 1386 lot one
is going to be held until March 11th for the public hearing at that time thank you very much Madam clerk thank you and that brings us to the public comments section yes please note that each person addressing the council during any section of the meeting during which public comment is permitted shall limit
his or her remarks to 5 minutes pursuant to Brick Township and Administrative Code section 233b are there any public comments yes sir um so I have a problem with the trailer
violations that are being issued to the people in Bricktown now um number one we had a meeting a few months ago or weeks ago um we were told there was going to be no
further ordinance or uh trouble with the trailers so it got washed there was probably 100 people here at that day now all of a sudden people are being issued summonses um for having trailers on
their property most mostly commercial right now which is eventually going to go into um residential the problem is that rule with the trailers was back in 1971
somewhere around there um that was never really an issue in Bricktown now all of a sudden today it's an issue with trailers everybody has trailers in Bricktown I mean I'm going to say a good portion number one
people um on this side of town um down by the water a lot of them don't have garages they're going to have a trailer to store stuff that's what they do they don't have a garage so they're not going to leave it outside property with variances got to be six feet off the
property line and stuff like that so it's becoming an issue now with everybody with the trailers because people need trailers they need a storage people work with the trailers people go to work with their trailer and I'm going to pull out one guy that I
know nothing about but I know he got one ANS Deli on drump Point Road has trailers he's a catering service he takes the trailer he drives it to the house porks it leaves it there goes take another trailer to the all that's doing
is affecting his business with this now and it's going to affect everybody else's business we have landscapers here we have people that use the trailer construction workers they take the trailer they fill it up with their tools they go to a job and that's what they do that's their business if they're going
to have to put their trailer off site somewhere in another town it's not going to be secure they're going to end up losing stuff it's not it's not right people pay tax dollars to do this I mean it's our property and now everybody's starting to get penalized for that and
it's it's not fair especially when the everybody was told there's going to be no issues on that um I I don't understand why that came about again can someone explain why that came about again thank you for your question thank you for your question Bob
actually think mayor crate wanted to respond to this yes so there was no change to the ordinance right there was no change there was no change to the ordinance and that's what we stated at the dece that's what uh at the time president M minikino stated at the December I believe 10th meeting for
commercial trailers to be parked on Commercial properties initially when the that commercial property comes in they would have to have a site plan to have those trailers on the property so if the trailers were added after the fact then they would
need to come back in and go in front of the board of adjustment in order to include those trailers so we're not looking to we're not finding people we're not looking we're looking for a batement so the request would be that those commercial properties come back in
to get the required you know plan site plan approved mhm so the problem is it's been like this for 50 years at least with not one issue why is it coming up right now that is being an issue because people are
calling it complaining it was how many complaints do we have in reality seriously we work on a complaint-based system so if somebody calls in a complaint then our code enforcement goes out and they have to go and investigate the complaint right so we could can we
get a list of the people that complained no we're not we don't do that that's Anonymous no yeah no and I'm you know this wasn't we have not spoken about it as a council or mayor or board since that
meeting but there's been quite a bit of talk about the trailers online here brought up by the public at every council meeting since then I have a feeling that that's led to more citizens in town being aware of this issue
ordinance and calling in and complaining yeah because they're trying to find out well if I got one why can't I call up on and this guy who has one that's what it's going to do it's going to be a chain reaction it really we're a blue collar place we all pay tax dollars
here I mean to put somebody going through whatever he's got to pay out of his pocket now to keep his business going I don't think it's fair for really for everybody to start doing it we're doing commercial what are we going to do with residential Bricktown has trailers on their property they have it at the
recreation center they have it at the palal they have them all over the place so why are they not being issued do do they have a site plan that it actually says trailers on there we want to work with all of the businesses here in town we do and as I said it's a
complaint-based system we're not sending people out really the Presbyterian Church has two trails so far off the road for the Boy Scouts it's so far who could see them you can't even really see them they're
and they got a citation it doesn't make that doesn't make sense at all some of the places have them behind their buildings and they're getting sues why you can't really see them in the road so how they how's somebody going to find them we are working with we are going to
work with these businesses to make sure that the trailers are it's affecting all the businesses right now it is but why can't we just leave things alone it's not hurting anybody that's the problem I have it's not affecting these people it's not affecting these people let them all run
their business if somebody has 10 trailers on his property I understand then should be a citation but when you got a little guy one person with a little trailer on his property it's not affecting anybody it it's it's really not you guys know that so something's
happening that we're just going to start citation all these people and it it just makes no sense so one individual that's here tonight he's been going to the courts and with him going to the courts it's costing him a lot of money it's costing the people of Bricktown money
it's tax dollars that we're paying for this guy you know for you guys to go through the course and it's going to end up being a class action suit because everybody's going to end up getting together against the town I'm being honest and that's what's going to end up happen happen because that's why all
these people started coming it started on social media and now everybody's worried about the boats everybody's worried about the business well let's be clear about the boats so there's some misinformation there's misinformation about what is allowed on on residential
property so boats and boat trailers are permitted we're boating community okay nobody's being cited for that okay um RVs and campers permitted on properties or a camper
storage you've got everything stored in your camper okay and also open landscape trailers are permitted I'm telling you what's permitted by the code so why can't a guy have a 6X 12 trailer on his property because he can't doesn't have a garage and something like that it it
makes no sense am I right or wrong we have people who have called and complained if you're talking about Residential Properties at this point we have residents who've called and complained and it's are the duty of the Code Enforcement Officers to go out and investigate each complaint so people
complain about one individual there's one individual that's you know well you're saying that but there are 75,000 people that live in this town and there are people who call and complain about having trailers parked in their neighborhoods that is something that is
it's it's a it's a I understand what you're saying and we really want to work with everyone to try to make sure that everyone is able to have what they need and and do what they need to do
however because the there's we have code and we have people who residents in this town who see these things and they don't want trailers in their neighborhood so we have to act on that so we go after one person that somebody we don't go after one person you're acting like
retarding one person council president yeah look Bob we appreciate your feedback we understand that this is it's a bad issue in this town because we never had this problem that's me finish we understand that the concerns that you're raising are held by many right and I appreciate your feedback I think the
council appreciates your feedback and we will take that into consideration as mayor CR had said we are looking for an amable resolution I think there's a perception that the town is targeting folks that is not occurring it is the case that all of the noise brought
around the ordinance that you yourself has admitted has been on the books for more than 55 years has led to a flood of complaints into the code enforcement group and they are at the moment bound to go out and address those complaints so I think there's a resolution to be found here it's something that we're
going to work on one of the other things that I do want to point out as far as uh trailers and things like that on properties if you're doing construction on your home and you have a dumpster and you have one of the you know the rat packs or whatever they're called those
are permissible for short amount of time so if you are doing construction on your home all that we ask is that you and you don't need a permit so for instance if you're getting your floors ripped up you don't need a permit for that okay but you need to obviously move your furniture out of the house we just ask
that you call code enforcement and let them know so that it's on their radar so that they know uh that obviously it's a shortterm thing and they're not going to be uh if a neighbor does call and say something that they're aware of that property that we do ask for people to do that that helps us so that we're not
called out to places that are you know we don't need to investigate so you're saying landscapers are okay with trailers on their property open Landscaping trailers are permitted okay any closed trailer you cannot have
on the property as the code is written right now open Landscaping trailers are permitted RVs campers boats and boat trailers on Residential Properties any commercial we're talking about commercial too I'm yeah if it's the same
it's the same s you have to have the site plan for the commercial though for the for the closed trailers you have to have the sitea can we do can you put a yeah boats are allowed yeah boats are allowed okay there's no issue with that boats or boats and trailers boats are
allowed on commercial property open trailer is allowed on a commercial property if you're going to do a large scale boat storage operation that's going to require a site plan if some's large scale right boats are allowed on a commercial property open trailers are allowed on
commercial property right and residential residential the only ones that are not allowed is an enclosed trailer on commercial and residential Clos is not
allowed and also I need you to keep in mind when those things are on the property they need to be out of the right away and they need to not be uh blocking like line of sight s yeah right so enclosed trailers will not be allowed
on commercial or residential property unless it's part of the site plan for the commercial property so somebody that has a enclosed trailer on a residential property that he's using for storage of his antique car whatever he has is not
allowed as the code is written right now correct and we're going to enforce those codes on everybody within closed if uh if a complaint is called out and has to be investigated then at this point yes so I'm at at you today and you have an
enclosed trailer I call up and then the situation it gets out and he gets a uh summons on that is that how that goes now or no it'll be investigated and it's investigated like any other complaint is investigated I understand that but what I'm saying is Joe small has an argument
I have an argument with you today and I call up so are we going to pursue it or just give him a warning you know like let's you know how's it going to work our code enforcement if if a call if a complaint is made code enforcement goes out to
investigate correct and they will make the determination and they will determination okay I'll let these guys talking thank you thank you Bob Hassel back 28 West pampam I just
heard the biggest bunch of BS from the mayor about uh who uh you can't find out and so on you guys cited me two years ago and through Discovery I got the name and the address of the person and a
person and other than a code enforcement person where emails will were brought back and forth and originally the code enforcement said I was not inv violation having my trailer because it's registered insured and had registered
and insured motor vehicles and the title on it says a utility trailer not a storage trailer and I'll tell you it's been one two years going on now and it's the personal thing because it was a person down the street that I had an
issue with with and they called it in and then it affected two other people on the Block and then nothing was done for a while now I also have information about other people that was cited and when it was cited and so on and this is not a uh common thing that's going on
all the time this was something because the one person which somebody's going to they're going to find out who this person is who started all this problem and where they live and all their information and I'm not going to stop because they're persecuting me for
having a motorcycle trailer that's uh Road worthy and everything else and I'm not bothering anybody because I got some cranky Navy down the street who happens to be a friend with somebody who works for the township now I get persecuted for it and
I will if I have to I'm going to pursue it to the to the Limit because I don't like this I just want to be Live and Let Live I don't want to be bothered I'm not having a a a d trailer I don't have a bunch of junk there I store my motorcycle and my Valley gear in the
motorcycle and actually it's garage it's not stored because I take the bike out I ride it and I put it back in there and it's garaged in there it's not stored like it sits there for 8 10 months and that's what it is because I don't have a place to put it and there's
a lot of other people that don't have places for snowmobiles dirt bikes antique cars classic cars because they don't have garages and they've got to go out of town or pay somebody else to uh store it and then the other thing you said about it's a boating community when
you're talking about tra uh what do you call camper trailers and motor homes you don't have one recreational Campground in this town so how can you say that this is a recreational Camping Town it's not there isn't any well that's what you're
insinuating just because it's boting Mr H I think the mayor the mayor is referring you to the way the ordinance is written well it's a discriminatory and it's a what do you call spite ordinance and I think people are going to get together I
hope come election we'll see what happens then thank [Applause] you anybody else from public please state your name and your address sir good evening Mike kler 2456 Hooper
Avenue I want to begin by uh opening up and some things I may say may be uh perceived a little uh rough I'm going to just say it as as it comes to my mind to represent myself my interests and the people uh through the community but um
what I'm seeing I was at the meeting where the attorney starky spoke to me looked me in the eye and told me that the issue was tabled and it's back tonight so without interruption okay um we listen to you please listen to me um
I find that to be an issue of cander because you tell somebody it's not going to be addressed and now it comes back either you're getting pressure from an affiliate of yours or you just simply didn't tell the truth if that's the case then we have a public mistrust issue and
today on the internet through Facebook somebody posted around the 4:00 Hour 4 pm that the matter they they posted the agenda and I don't know if it was a council member or Township official in any capacity uh but it said it would not be addressed and then it wasn't until a
small neighborhood community chat that it said if you have interest in this topic you better get there because it is in fact going to be discussed so again public trust and I think as a nation we've gone through enough public trust and mistrust is distrust issues over the
last four plus years that locally we don't need it we need to have trust in every single one of you and that's my next point is that power you hold power and power starts with knowledge and I don't think with respect to this ordinance when you go to definitions of
what makes a trailer I don't think if I gave you a sheet of paper to write down the types of trailers you would know any of the types let alone the differences between them I do I'm a retired uh State Police commercial truck inspector at
it's a federal agreement between Canada United States and Mexico called the North American agreement and you can go 26 years in this in that in that specific job position and still have your head spin trying to learn things to make sense out of it I held power power
to the point where I could give penalty to an innocent driver who just failed to know knowledge more than he might make in a quarter half a year an entire year salary with a stroke of one pen I could syn him his family and everything else and I don't know if you guys know what
you can and can't do but I had power I never abused it I'm not saying anybody tonight is abusing it but I think pressure is coming and I feel bad for the code enforcement officials because they have a job to do and they have to worry about their
own hide but with respect to the trailer owners and the many many different trailers that exist that I don't expect you up here to be able to describe in any great detail that cooler heads can Prevail as
a community without making threats to take a town to court we can make agreement and come to resolution now I think what the right thing to do is to get off the backs of these people who either rent space at Commercial Properties or own them outright or house these trailers at their homes because
these trailers are unique to everybody's situation being what it is whether it's for private storage employment mayor with respect to the things you said we're a boating community yes we are but I was raised you work before you play
and we're a we're a working community and I'm here my whole life and my family's been here for over a hundred years and they held prominent positions post uh post official you know the head of the postmaster building the Elks
Lodge managing the Elks Lodge having Community sense and pride and knowing how to take care of people without hurting people and I think the right thing to do is to revisit the Ordinance do a little learning get some public Insight I'm retired I'd be more than
willing to work with every single one of you and make these people be able to sleep at night at rest knowing that they're not hurting people because there should be restrictions about the biggest commercial landscape contractor Carpenter trailer is would be about a
26ft trailer and most people have open trailers because they can't afford the enclosed trailer it's just a matter of dollars and cents again we're a working community and everyone strives to do the right thing I ask you if how many times has this ordinance been addressed since
it's in ception has it been modified by anybody up here and when was its last revision when was its last enforcement if any at all these people of this town work their asses off and they deserve to be treated with some dignity and respect because you can go work in Rumson and
that Town's not perfect what are we trying to gain from this because if you just go after a small group you're thinking micro think macro and look at the big picture we're not perfect we can do better we can all do better we can clean up our town we can make things
better but we need to come together and you the answer is not stroken out enforcement to scare because to me that's oversight that's abuse of power and that's not knowing how to yield power again I could give people tickets that were six figures and go home and
eat my dinner and smile on my couch and look at my family and have a normal conversation I never did it once because I knew the impact go back to the enforcements the code enforcement officials with their being pushed in a corner are doing their job write a
letter publicly through your patch or whatever electronic means we picked up an ordinance tonight to save some money not everyone gets Asbury Park breast no one gets the coastal sun or whatever that newspaper may or may not be called put it on a public website everyone who got a letter from this period to that
period stating you're in violation of abc23 scrap it please shred it toal doc let's go back let's revisit maybe put restrictions 26 foot yes you can be enclosed yes you can be open on a residential property workingclass
Community will go boating on Saturday and Sunday or after work after 5: but let's start to give some respect in both directions to All parties and get it right because if we can't take care of each other then I'm going to leave here again saying well what was it that
attorney said to me when he told me it's not going to be discussed but now it is discussed I was in my pamas tonight about to eat dinner it's thrown in the fridge I threw some clothes on and I came here to hear just exactly what's going on because I don't want to count on somebody second third person on the
internet that's about all I have to say I volunteer my time to make it better for everybody involved I have a lot of knowledge I don't have all the answers and if there's something I can help I don't have an answer to I'll find the answer and help you to make the community better the people at Town
deserve better scrap the letters of enforcement give them a second chance gain something that again Ask every single person when you read that ordinance what is it we're trying to do because if you're trying to become rumin
if you're trying to become Fair Haven we got a long way to go stop thinking so micro and look broader to a macro sense we owe it to each other you hold power realize how you Del Del delve it
out thank you for your comments Mike and I thank you for your offer as well just a point of clarification we did not bring up the trailer discussion in this meeting or in previous meetings but obviously whatever the public would like to bring up in public comment is
something that can be discussed may I just not to Signal out the attorney do you recall that conversation when you said to me because we can go back to the video and you will hear that you said Mike it is done and I said can you just please tell me again because a lot of
times these things have a way of resurf I hear you're saying I'll clarify that yes there was an amendment to the CH ordinance that was on frankly I thought I thought it was something that would clarify some of the issues that are here tonight and there was an uproar about it um that uh CH ordinance was withdrawn
you said I want a guarantee that that amendment to ordinance will not be coming back and I gave you that guarantee I stand by my word there is nothing on the agenda tonight on trailers there is no Amendment to the trailer ordinance I understand there are people out here that are that are upset I get it and they're upset because they
were issued summonses under the existing Trail ORD has been in place since 1971 that's a discussion that we can have but don't question my Integrity about giving you a commitment that I'm standing by and the council stood by there is not any amendment to that trail ordinance there will not be an amendment to the
trail ordinance it's been in place since 1971 this is a different discussion we're having tonight than what we talked about that night a few weeks ago broad stroke I said to you will there be future discussions on the trailer in any capacity and you said and that was a
month I can't we can't predict what the public going to bring you ask I can't control that you're you're you are free to get up and talk about it you're the public you're entitled to do that I don't control that we appreciate the offer as well
Mike any other questions from public moving forward please raise your hand if you'd like to be recognized we got it Mike calares 331 Stenson road I'll start off like this I am part of I guess the misinformation problem
that was referenced today I'm the guy that uh has been emailing every one of you guys and very s it took two months to get a response I'm just going to toss that out there misinformation comes from no response when we were here we had a lot of questions I had a lot of questions
and those questions all revolved around why this thing came up in the in the in the beginning why was it trying to be changed then why was it tabled all of a sudden and it took two months to get a response out of anybody and now what I'm hearing is that I could live I could
have my my tool trailer that has been on my property it's an enclosed trailer for 20 years I've been business I'm a business owner in this town for 20 years someone could move in make an anonymous complaint and due to the to the ordinance the way it's written right now
I would have to I would probably be have to have to move my my trailer because there was a complaint on it but it's been there 20 years are we going to be doing anything to try to say Rectify or protect some of the landscapers and some of the Mason contractors or some of the you know business owners that have their trailers on their property because it's
a lot of people right because I didn't see anything when you guys brought it up in that it was Banning 10 thou anything gross vehicle weighed over 10,000 that's not misinformation that came right off of your site that means my duly would not have been able to park on my property that's what got me involved in this that's what started the brick
breakdown in the first place your lack of response created me and it created a lot of the misinformation that we're seeing right now and sorry I brought up the I brought up the boats because I am concerned the way the ordinance is written that
because it trailers says anything on wheels then you have specific car V outs for different things so if it starts at at the the business owners and you know some of the some of the um you know Commercial Business we have when is it
going to start trickling down to people like me who've been in business here for 20 years and there's no guarantee that it's not going to happen and what I hear here is you guys aren't even planning on bringing it up and and protecting anybody like us has that been discussed
all I saw was in your proposal was it hurting people like me who take a who take a trailer to work every day so do we have anything that we are we discussing anything to carve out people like me I get you know nothing for nothing we talk about
RVs RVs go against what the ordinance was I think designed for not to have people living in it I'm cool with people not living in their trailers but you could have an RV that you could live in it's a ready-made house what I'm I I get it I get it but
you see you're saying it though so no no no what I'm saying is it's allowed if I can't have an enclosed Trail where people living in it for that for that discussed purpose in the ordinance but someone can have an RV that can be lived in on on your property don't you don't
see like kind of how that there's there's the way that ordinance is written is actually pretty bad and the fix to it was even worse and now are we doing are we really going to consider anything that could possibly fix some of the you know miscar or misinformation that's clearly in this that may protect
people like us that are worried that some of the some of the submm engins that are happening right now are going to start happening to us and all they need is anonymous complaint are you guys going to protect us from this we're obviously going to be looking at this ordinance to see what is in
there that is obviously detrimental to small businesses so we're not here we are not here know business owners I understand that yes so so I also offer my Serv oh sorry go sorry thank you we're not here to hurt small businesses we want to help
small businesses we understand that this is an issue it really wasn't an issue up until we tried to clarify for our code enforcement what this ordinance meant that has been on the books for over 50 years okay
because we have had people calling in to complain when people call in to complain our code enforcement goes out our code enforcement had questions about the ordinance our attorney sat down we went over the ordinance and what the meaning of the ordinance was and when the change
was going to be made obviously it was not well you know the public did not want that to happen and we rescinded that change to the ordinance now because so much attention has come up about this ordinance people are realizing oh I
don't have to have maybe there's somebody living on the Block like you for 20 years that uh you know had their trailer and they're like oh I I don't like that trailer I'm going to call about it I I don't know who's calling okay I don't answer the calls I'm not looking at the call logs I'm just saying
that people have called and complained it's obviously a problem it's being recognized and it's something that the council and the land use committee can look at again to see if there's some way we can Rectify it so that we are not injuring small business owners because
we don't want to do that we should though because what you said earlier I think think it was something like people don't want trailers in their neighborhoods well some people don't you know are calling I know but some people also want to make a living so if we acquest just to them without protecting us I think there's there's a real big
gap there that's missing and I also would like to honestly I would love to be a part of this if you guys want to do it we could do it on the show we could have a round table conversation I'm being very serious because to interject for moment everybody information allow me to
interject for one moment you've men that we did not respond for two months two requests to appear on your podcast three two requests to appear on your podcast the first the first hold on I'll let the mayor speak for herself but I am sure that she has made herself available to you the first one was discussion with me
discussion with me I sent you all of you to talk about that ordinance the podcast didn't even exist on my first one then there was two requests to come on my show none of which any of you responded to for two months two months then I got
four responses in a matter of eight hours all saying No thank you this isn't just a podcast this is a new show it's a breakdown show of this town it's a highlight show of this town I've been I've been reading off the sports the all the sports highlights I've been playing the kids sports highlights this is an information based show from this town
and the fact that it took everybody two months to come and even even say anything to me then you say that that's ridiculous that's that's an insult I am a brick res this sounds like a Personal Agenda it's not a personal AGA I do have a personal agenda the agenda is to get
information out period and the mayor it has been made available to answer questions three NOS everybody we need to do better that's all I'm going to say to be clear we are meeting next week 100% I look forward to it and I and I've announced that on my show I've
announced it on my show but we're not doing it to where everybody could see it I would love it if we could get it on tape I want everybody to get to know you guys I want to have you on to discuss issues I want to have you guys on to discuss is isues one of the things that happens is I get in that voting booth
and I look at the names and I have no idea who you people are none and I want to change that you guys should be talking to me I am giving you a platform to talk to these people and none of you guys want to take me up on it I want to be I want you guys to be a
part of this I want everybody to be a part of this this is not just my personal issue this is this town I could be a big help use me get your message out I won't do it in a biased fashion I haven't been anybody here looks at me they know that I I have been very
straight across the board with you guys this entire time I gave you two months a right respond you still have it I no I [Applause] did anybody else from public Mr bacon
good evening my name is Charles bacon I live at 366 rean cokus drive I have a couple questions about the ordinance I didn't attend the December 10th meeting as everyone in this room knows and I've talked about this three meetings in a
row first for the point of the people in the audience and people watching this can we just Define what ordinance we're talking about I just want to confirm is it chapter 288 chapter 288 288 okay
thank you very much and well technically both it's chapter 288 and 445 technically okay thank you and this is a point of clarification when art came up here he was talking about the ordinance and I believe mayor you might have said this you mentioned that enclosed
trailers were always banned now I got to be honest with you when I came here at the December 27th meeting I had the red line ordinance so I didn't bring the original one but in this ordinance it looked like specifically we were changing the
language to actually ban closed trailers so he's battling the town about a closed trailer that you said has been on the books and maybe it's because I don't have ordinance 288 before it was going to be introduced at December 10th and as
council president said it was pulled but the one I'm seeing Redline clearly is targeting a closed trailer it's clearly in the red lines we're actually defining an open trailer we're defining a closed trailer now I thought I heard at my age maybe my
hearing's not what it should be that he's never been allowed to have a closed trailer on his property so I think for the point of the discussion and the the public that ordinance should be brought into here and memorialized in the minutes so we can actually see what it
looks like so we can discuss was it Bann or is he being targeted and I've actually talked about this through a couple meetings because I do believe he has been targeted have a good evening and thank you thank you Mr bacon there any other questions from the
public yes sir hello my name is Richie Campbell I live in Brick good evening Brick Township I appreciate the opportunity to speak and address you today though I've stepped back from local politics to focus on pursuing of PhD I and don't want to have
to get involved however I can't ignore the pressing issues in our community uh recently code enforcement uh I've noticed uh seems to be disproportionately targeting homeowners such as myself including my 1966 chel I've been cited for having this vehicle
out side I lack of an enclosed storage option like a garage like the previous gentleman mentioned like most of us are because we're workingclass people and an enclosed I lack an enclosed trailer storage option uh for my vehicle because of the behavior and regulations of the
lunatics running this community that at any moment I would have to get rid of it so that is why I haven't bought one meanwhile there appears to be absolutely zero accountability for businesses along moken Road and other actual enforceable offenses which undermine the fairness of enforcement
I respectfully call on the township to shift shift its code enforcement Focus to ensure businesses are held accountable while M and maintaining their actual properties rather than targeting taxpaying homeowners the imbalance burdens hardworking taxpaying residents who are
workingclass men and women trying to feed their families uh I believe moken Road should be one of the best beach towns in the entire state if not the country uh but currently if it's neglected up unkempt and resembles a dump if my house
violated most of the rules that many of these uh businesses did I would have uh I'd have citations in the mail I guarantee it I urged the township to prioritize improvements and enforcement to maintain uh maintain its potential as a viable Community instead of harassing
me for having a Porsche or a chel I want to highlight this that this is a deeper concern the policies driving these enforcement practices seem to be shaped from school teachers and unqualified individuals rather than those who understand the realities of workingclass life and the challenges of
supporting a family in this community this disconnect has failed our Township tremendously please address these issues effectively so I and others like me don't have to step up into local politics to advocate for change everyone here who's come out they had to go to work and now they're here complaining to
you guys okay they don't want to do that on their Tuesday night because they got to get up extra early to go feed their families to pay the property tax and all their bills that keep piling up in this community this town does does not improve year over year over year you guys Pat yourselves on the back act like
you're doing a great job I I don't see it I'm sure most of the people here don't see it okay please start doing right for the township of Comm of Brick Township okay we have two paths one is revital revitalization and fairness for all reservation where we continue
neglect an inequality I hope you take the action to improve our community and um uh I I don't expect much from the other side in the upcoming election maybe if some viable candidates actually come you guys would actually start
working but uh just a terrible job by everybody I I I don't think the town is doing great and uh you all should take some self- responsibility and there's plenty to do here and uh yeah I hope you guys fix myen road because it it really
should be beautiful if anyone wants to debate any of my points I I I'm fair to speak thank you for your comments Mr Campbell okay all right let's waste another minute because you guys waste our time and taxes nice to see you Joanne have a
great day everybody how are you Thomas Finelli 1889 Route 88 unit 7 um this commercial property behind V hotton chocolate storage it's all like big G garages Tuckers is back there
Hudson Landscaping was there back in I think the 80s then it became fals Landscaping um and then I moved in two years ago I came through when before I got my lease I came down to zoning asked if I needed to get any kind of paperwork
they said no you're good Mr Finelli you and your family have been here for 40 years running the landscape company I didn't think we'd have any problems I asked all the neighbors there's one behind the property of the shop we don't make any noise I have three enclosed trailers on the property
I got a violation on the the 12th after tomorrow it's $2,000 per day for de enclosed trailers to be on my property going back to May 22nd 20
23 talked to zoning there was no issues I didn't need a variance I didn't need zoning approval I had a letter saying Zone zoning was approved for the landscape company to continuously be ran we're not switching there's not a mechanic shop I'm not running a mechanic shop running
a landscape company enclosed trailer has my mowers that go out daily in the summer over the winter months they sit in there and they get they sit there for the winter for two months so I don't know what the problem is why all of a sudden now I'm getting a
violation two years later after I came downstairs asking if I needed to do anything differ running my Landscape Company yeah it sounds like it's it could have been a mistake if you were told so that's a mistake yeah how's that
a mistake I have an enclosed trailer well and I got T I got targeted I'm sorry that's not targeting an enclosed trailer on a commercial property so we got to we have to work together whatever we're doing zoning engineering whoever is
talking Pablo was the code enforcement okay didn't speak with them okay I wanted to I came here on the 13th he's on medical right did you speak to anyone else from code though Chris and um Jerry briefly okay someone was supposed to get
in touch with me no one nobody got back got back okay can I say y i i I agree with the May this this is ridiculous the way you're you're I'm not familiar with this at all but I think there there may have been a mistake so what I'd suggest is but I have an inclosed trailer in a commercial property but if zon gave you
the approval when that may that mistake if that's why did I need nothing then no you were no no no no no no why did I need nothing then as a site plan for continuous use because you probably had one with the original use yeah and
you were just you were just a new tenant with the same I understand that but if it was a change of use you would but why wouldn't that be that should he should have came back here looked at the address of that site and seeing if I had proper usage yeah I think what they're saying is this
may be a mistake and if you come and talk these may not be properly issued to you that that's the point well I came on the 13th and then I haven't had a call since make we didn't know that I apologize but then I speak on behalf of everybody if I didn't need a site plan and I don't think the owner has a plan
cuz it's been I I spoke with him he didn't know anything anything about it but it's been two landscape generations and then myself it could have been quite some time ago yeah some of the site plans go back 20 30 40 years so they're making so it's got to be if it's if it's landscape
use or material yard use it's fine it may be I this is all new so if you can just show us what you have and we'll take a look at it and I think we could probably clear this up I it maybe a mistake on to's part that needs to be resolved we don't know enough sitting
here tonight to tell you that but we probably tell you tomorrow once we look at it but then I'm speaking on behalf of everybody well they might not all have the exact same circumstances but what you've described indicates that perhaps somebody in Code Enforcement should not have written that citation it will be
taken under review but who called and complained on me that I can't answer I was one of 28 violations in the town one of 28 there has to be someone that said go find trailers yeah I'm in the back of 88
you have to drive behind my building to see my trailers no one from the public can see they see a sign finelli's landscaping that's it you literally have to drive around the building and I have one neighbor and that one neighbor did Neely did not call on
me so the code enforcement just targeted me I feel like I got targeted I definitely got targeted cuz nobody comes back there it's a car wash Tuckers me and a neighbor that I went there I
said did you call and complain is there an issue she said no I did not call on you Mr Finelli it is not the goal of Code Enforcement to Target people but I feel like I'm getting targeted yes I know I'm just saying like that is not what we
want our code officials doing for 40 years here and never had an issue ever got a complain and I know for a fact that nobody called what I'm going to suggest is this is that we take the information that you provided and we follow up with the
inducement investigation but that's what I'm saying for the 28 people that got the violations on commercial property I'm fighting on behalf I'm not just fighting for me I'm fighting on behalf of everybody because for someone to come round my back it's all on camera understood so but your circumstances may
be different from others right but who called them me we are going to it's public knowledge though who who actually called certainly the Town Council does not have that information who has that information I tell you there there complaints coming to code enforcement
and I'll say this as a matter of policy it's same with complaints into the police department the the people who call in um policy is not to disclose that who answer with a a complaint who answers that call if Cod code enforcement goes to code enforcement
code enforcement answerers that call so if I call I'm going to reach Pablo when he comes back directly or someone from code enforcement there are different people who work in the code enforcement office but they will answer my call some someone will answer someone
answ if code enforcement will roll over to somebody else but I can find out who called on me probably not no though as a matter of policy we don't disclose that for either police matters or for code enforcement matters all right thank you
thank you are there any other public comments seeing none close public Miss Bergen nothing thank you Madame mayor I just want to thank everyone for coming out this
evening our goal is to work with all of you so having had the discussions this evening and having seeing what is happening uh you know we want to work with our small businesses and we want to make sure that you're able to continue to run your businesses so if you give us a chance we're happy to work with you
and see what you know what we can do to make sure that you can continue to run your businesses successfully Mr starky thank you very much Madame secretary nothing thank you thank you
Madame clerk no thank councilman alanes nothing councilwoman D young I want to thank everybody for coming out this evening and I also want to thank all of our employees and our Community Partners for putting on a great 175th birthday party that we had on Saturday for the town
everybody had a really great time and it was well-run and I want to thank everybody for coming out and supporting the town thank you councilman Fineman nothing for me tonight thank you councilwoman Travers I just want to thank pack 39 for coming out and helping us with the the flag
salute today thank you vice president minino nothing tonight thank you I will say this I have heard and I feel I speak on behalf of the Town Council all of the issues and concerns and sentiments that were raised tonight I think we stated it early on in some of
our responses to those comments I know the mayor has reiterated it we care about the people in this town I've grown up in this town I know it might not feel that way or you guys are angry and you want to think different I've worked landscaping jobs in this town and This
Town Council does want to do what's best for the people in our town so we will consider everything that was shared here tonight we will discuss things with our code enforcement group and others in the administration that work in the township and we will determine whether or not there's something that should be done or
should can be done in order to recognize the concerns that you guys are raising with that I would to announce that the next public meeting is on Tuesday March 11th at 7 pm can to ask for a motion and second to adjourn
motion all in favor I meeting adjourned