readings act NJSA 10 col4-6 on January 21st 2026 proper notice was sent to the electronic news sources of record filed with the clerk with the municipal clerk at the township of Bridgewwater and posted on the bulletin board in the municipal building please
be aware of the planning board policy for public hearings no new applications will be heard after 9:30 p.m. and no new testimony will be taken after 1000 p.m. Hearing assistance is available upon request. Accommodations will be made for
individuals with a disability pursuant to the Americans with Disabilities Act or ADA, provided the individual with the disability provides 48 hours advanced notice to the planning department secretary before the public meeting. However, if the individual should require special equipment or services
such as a CART transcriber, 7 days advanced notice, excluding weekends and holidays may be necessary. I would ask that everyone please stand to salute the flag. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Miss Propes, could I have a roll call, please? >> Chairman Bessio >> here. >> Mr. Bonjouro
>> here. Councilwoman Isla >> here. >> Mr. Papis >> here. >> Mr. McGora >> here. >> Mr. Wang >> here. >> Mr. Corora. >> Mr. Banga >> here. >> Miss Chardawitch >> here. >> Mr. Chowdery
>> here. >> Mr. Atkins Mr. Peek >> here. >> Port attorney Mr. Burr here. Board engineer, Miss Sarmad >> here. Word planner, Mr. Rashed
>> here. >> Traffic engineer, if you have a quarum, you can proceed. >> Thank you, Miss Propes. At this time, I'd like to wish uh ask any members of the public wishing to address the board on any matters not listed on tonight's agenda, not listed on the agenda, please feel free to come
forward at this time. Okay, moving along. We do have a resolution this evening and that's for a settlement agreement. S Soom-L0006025 board attorney, Mr. Pek. >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This memorializes the vote taken at the last meeting. This had to do with the area
need of redevelopment designation for the Ethicon property. As you'll recall, uh, that determination was made and the township council, uh, did determine, you know, voted and accepted the recommendation that it be deemed an area in need. Somerset Corporate Center filed suit against that. Um, they worked
things out with the redeveloper and, uh, this ratifies the settlement agreement, which will end the litigation. They'll still have to come back to this board for site plan approval. Um, so it's not over, but it just ends the litigation. Very good. Thank you very much.
>> Board voted uh last time to accept the settlement. So, this just memorializes it. >> Excellent. Are there any questions, comments, or changes to the record? >> Hearing none, I'll take a motion to adopt the resolution. >> I'll make a motion.
>> That's Miss Sakura. Could I have a second, please? >> Mr. Ch uh Mr. um that's what my father told me. Is that Mr. Banga? >> Mr. Chowry. Could I have a roll call, please? >> Vesio,
>> yes. >> Mr. Bonjouro, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Isla, >> yes. >> Mr. Papis, >> yes. >> Mr. McGora, >> yes. >> Miss Sakura, >> yes. >> Mr. Banga, >> yes. >> Miss Chardawitch, >> yes. >> Mr. Chowy, >> yes.
>> Okay, moving along to our master plan consistency review this evening. We do have a few of these ordinances uh for consistent review this evening and that's for proposed ordinance 26-1 26-26-3 26-4. Good evening, Miss Sarmmed, board
planner. Miss Sarmmed, would you be able to bring the board up to speed? >> I can. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um and so as mentioned um by the chairman, there are three ordinances, four ordinances that were transmitted by the township council um that were introduced
um on February 19th at the council meeting. Um all of these ordinances are related to the township's affordable housing compliance um which has a deadline of March 15th. Um and under the referral P powers of the under the MLUL
of the planning board, um the planning board um has a duty to transmit back to the council um after within 35 days of being referred um that if the ordinance is not inconsistent with the master
plan. And so um I have had a chance to review the ordinances um for master plan consistency. And um I'm going to first look at ordinance 26-01 because it's a little different than the other ordinances. Um and I had a chance to review the most recent master plan
documents including um the most m most recent master plan re-examination report as well as the fourth round housing fair share plan. Um and just briefly the um fourth round uh housing element fair share plan that was adopted in June
2025. It in it was prepared in accordance with the amended fair housing act um which was signed into law in 2024. This requires that the housing element be designed to achieve the goal of access to affordable housing to meet present and prospective housing needs with particular attent attention to low and
moderate income housing. Additionally, through the amended fair housing act, uh they created a new process for municipalities to come into constitutional compliance. the um there was also uh administrative directive 14-24 as part of the amended fair
housing act that was um that was established through the civil affordable housing dispute resolution program implementation of the amended fair housing act that was issued on December 13th 2024 and that included specific things that must be included within the housing element for compliance which did
include also um the an affordable housing ordinance um that includes um among other required regulations, the applicability to um the requirements regarding very low-income housing reporting requirements, etc. Um as well
as the adoption of a mandatory set aside ordinance um and an executed and updated development fee ordinance. Um and so therefore, by law and directive, the township's required as part of its housing element and compliance process to update its affordable housing ordinance, its development fee
ordinance, and its mandatory set aside ordinance. Um the regulations of which the ordinances were prepared upon were not uh which include the updated uniform housing affordability control regulations or the U-Hack regs under
NJAC 580-26.1 um as well as the um new affordable housing regulations that were adopted by the DCA which is NJAC 599 were both adopted in December. So those these ordinances were not attached to
the housing element um in June, but were just recently uh prepared because of those regulations most recently being adopted only a few months ago. Um and so the um so those ordinance had to wait. Uh as far as the master plan re-examination report um that was
adopted in December, it also noted that that re-examination report was directly related to the most recent master plan efforts this year. And it also provided updates and recommendations um from those documents as well as reiterating the recommendations of the fourth round
housing fair share plan which emphasize the importance and prevalence of the amended fair housing act requirements and the and the deadlines established by the law. And so for those reasons, uh I believe that the the ordinance 26-01 implements the requirements of the
fourth round fair housing fourth round housing element fair share plan um which has been adopted to address the requirements of the amended fair housing act as well as the administrative directive 14-24. Um, as noted in the review of those master plan documents, um, the ordinance
is a repeal of the existing development fee ordinance, um, and the affordable housing ordinance under under existing chapters within the township's code. And, um, these or this ordinance is, um, intended to, uh, reflect an update of
the state level regulations. And so, um, it is a replacement of the existing ordinance. It accounts uh for uh all of the regulations back to um 5 colon 93. Um and so it is very comprehensive. You'll notice it's very very long. Um it
doesn't make references to things. It includes all of the statutory language and that's why it seems like it might be a little bit longer than what exists in the code. Nevertheless, um I do believe that um the fact that it is based upon uh a repeal and replacement of the
existing code as well as the master plan recommendations related to it um that it is consistent with the township's or not inconsistent with the township's master plan. Um, and so I would recommend that that the um, planning board transmit back to the council either a resolution
or a memo um, stating that it can be it can be found that these that ordinance 26-01 is not inconsistent with the township's master plan documents. >> Thank you very much, Miss Sarmad. I'd like to open up to the board for any questions or comments. If none, could I hear a motion that the
ordinance number 2601 is not inconsistent with the township master plan and to send to review for our township council? >> I make the motion. >> Seconded. >> Mr. Bonjouro. >> Mr. Papas. Could I have a roll call, please? >> Vasio. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Ronjouro. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Isla. >> Yes. Mr. Papis. >> Yes. >> Mr. McGor. >> Yes. Mr. Wang, >> yes. >> Mr. Sakora, >> yes. >> Mr. Banga, >> yes. >> Miss Chardich, >> yes.
>> Mr. Chowy, >> thank you, Miss Prod. >> Thank you. Yes. And there are three additional ordinances. Ordinance 26-2, Ordinance 26-3, and 26-4. Um, these ordinances, like I said, are a little bit different. These are spec
sight specific zoning ordinances that will implement the balance of the sites within the township's fourth round housing element that require are required to be reszoned in order to allow for um affordable housing. Um there are two other sites that have
already been um reszoned in 2025 um to allow for housing. So again, these are the last three that would round out the township's um compliance for their for the fourth round housing and fair share plan. Um, specifically, ordinance 26-02 amends the existing RMDU-26
zone. Um, this is specifically for property um, known as block 400, lot 7.06. It's on Route 22. It's an existing um, KRE office building and it will be demolished or the zoning will allow for basically the demolition of that building and the replacement with a
multif family housing development with affordable housing set aside. uh proposed ordinance 26-03 would uh it proposes a new zone, the AH2 zone or affordable housing 2 zone um to be added to the code and this is again
sight specific for the property known as block 711 lot 7. It's located along Frontier Road um just north of Route 22 adjacent to the sports arena there. Um, and that would als that is a vacant site right now, but would permit uh again a a
multif family but age restricted uh development with an affordable housing set aside. And then finally, um township ordinance, proposed township ordinance 26-04 again is a new zone proposes the AH1 zone and this would reszone the property uh known as block 170 lot 4.02
and that's along uh between Route 28 and Route 22. Um it's the Bridgewater Plaza 1 and two office buildings. Again, very similar to uh ordinance 26-02 would permit the demolition of the existing office buildings for a multif family inclusionary development with affordable
set aside. Um the the board has the referral powers again to uh review the ordinances to determine if they are consistent with the master plan and transmit their findings back to the township council. Um, these ordinances were all introduced on February 19th
and uh, again, I had a chance to look at the uh, fourth round housing and fair share plan that was adopted in June 2025 as well as the master plan re-examination report that was adopted in December of 2025. Um, the fourth round housing and fair share plan specifically set forth sites to be
reszoned to permit affordable housing to create to basically comply and fulfill the township's fourth round obligation. Um there were five such sites um including these three that were specifically noted. They were all um described within the housing island fair
share plan um with what's called a site suitability analysis. So there's mapping showing if the sites are suitable um and if they meet the suitability test which it means that they're approvable, developable, um available and suitable. um of which the the housing unfair share plan did
find that all three sites um that are proposed um in these ordinances are. And so um moving on to the master plan re-examination report, it um reiterated exactly these sites um the five properties to be reszoned for the township's fourth round housing element
fair share plan um including these three. Um and so each of the zones that um are either uh proposed to be created or amended by these ordinances implement the recommendations of the 2025 fourthround housing unfair share plan as well as the updated recommendations
under the 2025 master plan re-examination report. Um these sites all address the requirements of the amended fair housing act and the township's constitutional requirement to address its mandated affordable housing obligation. And therefore, um, I do find that these ordinances are consistent with the township's master plan documents. And I would again make a
recommendation that the board, um, either transmit a memo or a resolution back to the council saying as much. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Sarm. Thank you. Um, does the board have any questions or comments related to consistency reviews 2602, 2603, and
2604? >> I'll make a motion to make that recommendation, but then I'd have some discussion. >> Very good, Mr. Papus can please Mr. Bonjouro. >> Mr. Papus. >> So, Miss Sarmmed, you mentioned a total
of five sites and these particular sites were also included in the housing plan that you mentioned. Correct. >> Yes. >> And the housing plan was subject of a review and approval of this board. When was that? June last of last year.
Correct. >> Correct. that was uh noticed for um in mid June and then it was heard on June 25th I believe and adopted that that evening. >> Right. Um and so that was part of the requirement that you outlined uh for the
townships um required compliance with the affordable housing edict from state. >> Yes. The amended fair housing act required that that that be adopted by June 30th last year. the um when when when this was um
considered um wasn't there notification given to municipalities? >> It is a requirement for master plan documents to um provide a uh not a copy of the housing element but a notice that
the housing element is being adopted to all adjoining municipalities. >> Right. And in fact, I did uh ask for and I have in my possession uh for the benefit of the of the the board the actual notification that Maria D. Simone, the acting planning board
secretary, sent to joining municipalities. And this was certified mail uh dated June the n June the 6th, 2025. in the municipalities that this notice was sent to. Branchburg Township, Bedminister
Township, Berners Township, Somerset County Planning Board, Greenbrook Township, Hillsboro Township, Somerville Burrow, Middle Sex Burrow, Manville Burrow, Waring Township, Bound Brook,
and Raritton Burrow. So these are copies of the certifi certified mail receipt that was prepared and the joining documents that I have are all the signatures of those agents of those municipalities that received this
notification. So just wanted to make sure everyone was aware that that did take place and that our neighbors were informed of this back in June of last year. That's all that I have. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Papus. I have a motion by Mr. Pompus and a second by Mr. Bonjouro. Can I have a roll call, please? >> Chairman Vasio, >> yes. >> Mr. Bonjouro, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Isla, >> yes. >> Mr. Papis, >> yes. >> Mr. Mora, >> yes.
>> Mr. Wang, >> yes. >> Miss Sakura, >> Mr. Banga, >> yes. >> Miss Chardawitch, >> yes. >> Mr. Chowy, >> thank you, Miss Probes. Moving along to our application portion for this evening, we have application 2526PB
known as Wheatsworth Properties, commonly known as Cornell Boulevard and Highway Route 20220 206. And who is returning this evening to represent the applicant? >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is Jason Heindman from the law firm of Price Me Showman and Dr. Mo on behalf of the uh applicant Weatworth Properties Urban
Renewal LLC. >> Good evening, Mr. Heman. Good to have you back. Who will be your first witness this evening? >> So our fir it's good. Our first witness for the evening will be uh the applicant's engineer, Mr. Michael Fischer, who was
sworn at the last meeting. Okay. While he uh comes up and and starts and gets uh set up, I just wanted to uh reintroduce the application. And as uh the board and the public is aware, we were here uh back in February where we heard testimony from uh the applicant
and uh applicant representative and the operator, Mr. Luchiano Brun um provided testimony with respect to uh general parameters of the application. And as you're all aware, this is for a uh minor subdivision of uh the lot into two
parcels to accommodate the uh development of a 4unit uh disabled veterans housing uh apartment as well as an 11 unit um low and moderate income family uh apartment building. Um access
is proposed to be provided from Cornell Boulevard. Um and there are uh a proposed storm water management associated parking and lighting uh fixtures proposed. Uh one uh
point of housekeeping uh that came up at the hearing was with respect to uh the veterans housing and there was a question regarding um the requirement for on-site services and as indicated at
the hearing uh the last hearing um there is not a specific requirement for on-site services for a uh the disabled veterans housing. It's characterized as special needs housing. And the Fair Housing Act uh states that quote uh this
is section 311 of the Fair Housing Act. A municipality is entitled to uh one credit and one bonus credit for each unit of low or moderate income housing for individuals with special needs or permanent supportive housing as those terms are defined in uh NJSA
341B-21.24 24, which defines individuals with special me need needs as individuals mental illness, individuals with physical or developmental disabilities, and individuals in other emerging special needs groups identified by state
agencies. Per Mr. Brun's testimony, uh, eligibility for the disabled veterans housing requires an official disability award letter from either Social Security or the VA. And this is consistent with the federal regulations and how they
define a person with disabilities um for defining a disabled household. And reference to that is 24 CFR 891305. So with that being said, uh I'd like to have Mr. um Fiser sworn and uh we'll go
through his credentials and I'd like to have him um qualified as an expert in engineering. You swear that the testimony you're going to give in connection with this hearing will be the truth and nothing but the truth. >> Yes, I do. >> Thank you. Could you state and spell your last name for the record?
>> Michael David Fiser. F I S H E R. >> Thank you. Uh Mr. Fiser, uh for the board, could you just give them the benefit of your background, experiences, and licenses? >> Certainly. Uh I uh went to attended
NJIT, graduated in 2011, uh bachelors of engineering. Um I sat for and passed the PE exam in 2014 in the state of New Jersey. Uh I have a license in good standing ever since. Um
it's currently in good standing now and um I've testified before multiple boards across many counties across uh northern Jersey. I can go through them all if you prefer. >> Does the board have any objections to Mr. Fisher qualifications?
>> Please proceed, Mr. Fischer. >> Thank you, Mr. Fischer. You were here, of course, for uh the prior testimony, correct? >> That's correct. >> And uh you're familiar with the site that was being discussed? >> Yes, I am. >> And you developed the uh site plans for this development application, correct?
>> Yes, I did. Okay. Um, and I believe you prepared an exhibit identifying the site. Correct? >> I did. I have some copies that I can hand out to the board. >> I I believe >> could uh I'd like to have an exhibit marked. I'll hand them out and then we'll have it projected on the screen.
>> Great. I believe that be A1. I don't believe you had any. >> You did not. A1. >> Stay there. Yeah. Heat. Except can I have one just hard copy? Copies for the board.
>> Is everybody perhaps for the future too. Couple hard copies. Thank you. >> So, Mr. Yes, I did. >> And can you describe to the board what it is? >> Uh, it's a aerial view of the property.
Um, highlighted in blue are the property lines uh for the subject property which is uh lot 2011 2.01 of block uh 20 I'm sorry 406. Uh the property is approximately 1.55
acres in size. Uh property has frontage along uh route 20620 as well as Cornell Boulevard. Um the property is predominantly wooded under uh current conditions and undeveloped. Um what isn't shown or or
can't be seen on this is that the pro from an environmental constraint standpoint, there are no steep slopes on the property. Um the there there are no um repairarian zones or freshwater wetlands or floodways or flood planes uh
on the property or within the vicinity of the property. Um as far as the uh to to further describe what you see here, um the character of the neighborhoods that you're you're looking at on the uh Cornell Boulevard side is predominantly
a residential development. Um whereas on the um routes 202 206 side uh is predominantly um commercial. Um joining property next to us uh is the on the 202
206 side is the time to eat diner. Um, one point of clarification from last time we were here, uh, it was noted that there was an encroachment, um, from the time to eat diner, a pavement encroachment. Uh, it is noted on my
survey or on my company's survey. Um, that the encroachment itself is is approximately 6 feet um, over the property line by about 50 feet in length. Um it's triangular in shape. However, uh the encroachment is just
that it's a pavement encroachment. There is no parking. Um you can see that on the uh the aerial view that the parking um that's delineated uh by the diner goes up to the uh the corner of the property. >> Does your exhibit uh does it depict
where that encroachment is? It's it's tough to tell based on the um the discoloration or the the coloring of the the aerial, but you can roughly see um in front of the the two dark colored vehicles closest to 2026
there is what appears to be a uh a paved area which is the um the encroachment. >> I'm Dennis Galvin. What is the basis for your objection? >> I'm troubled by the by the line that
you're being showing space within this corner and you're being told that >> Yeah. No, your objection is noted and you'll certainly have the opportunity to cross-examine uh Mr. Fiser on his testimony, both this exhibit and the
site plan. >> You've made your objection clear. Thank you. >> Please proceed, Mr. Fisher. >> Okay. Um, >> based off your survey and your observation of the property,
are there any striped parking spaces that are encroaching? Actual parking spaces that are on the applicants >> based on the aerial image and and my observations. No. >> And what about uh the based off the encroachment area you depicted on your survey?
>> No. That's correct. uh colorized site plan. >> Could Could you make sure that mic is turned on, please? We're having trouble here. >> Yeah. >> Can you >> That's better. Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you have hard copies of that?
>> Yes, we'll pass them out. Uh Mr. Fischer, can you just while I pass out these copies, can you just describe for the board uh what is being depicted and uh how it was prepared? >> Sure, absolutely. So, um beginning with the same aerial image, the same
adjoining information with regards to the adjoining property information, uh the same boundary line, um blue boundary line specific to the uh property. Um this is a uh colorized depiction of the site plan showing the two proposed
buildings. Um the access off of Cornell Boulevard. Um the parking lots um landscaping and um the proposed subdivision line. No, no,
>> this is going to be a two >> separate. >> Yeah, I did separate them. And with respect to the Thank you. with respect to the proposed um subdivided lots, what's depicted on
or what's proposed on the site plan, uh those proposed lot numbers were confirmed by the the uh tax assessor. Correct. >> That's correct. We received an email from the tax assessor confirming them. >> Okay. And um can you provide the board um
just a general basis for the subdivision that is being proposed? >> Uh sure. So, so essentially uh both properties needed to to um have access um to where the utilities could be
connected to the properties extended up and and and connected to the properties. Um in addition to that there's a uh municipal land use law requirement that um indicates that the um proper the building a a building cannot
receive a building permit uh without having um access to the property um or or frontage on which the property on which the road that it's fronting and accessing. Um so the
subdivision line was was established um between that and and the AH3 zone requirement which allows for a 20 foot wide strip of land to extend utilities up the property so long as it doesn't have any structures um located in this
area. Uh that's exclusive according to the ordinance of fences, landscaping, and any other forms of screening. And uh I believe you you mentioned it, but that teal line depicted that is the subdivision line. >> That's correct.
And with respect to the access to Cornell Boulevard, can you provide the board uh the basis or rationale for um why that was designed to provide vehicular and utility access? >> Sure.
uh access was uh originally considered um from the state highway. Um it was considered however um given the nature of this project as being residential um it was it was determined that it was a
better suited to access um a residential development off of a residential neighborhood as opposed to accessing off of a state highway. Um this this would further promote um
pedestrian access from from the the residents to to be able to to walk along Cornell Boulevard or as it was noted before regarding bike racks um b they could bicycle up and down Cornell Boulevard whereas that wouldn't necessarily be as uh prominent or or or
really even recommended along a state route. Um, in addition to that, there was some discussion last time about uh school busing. Um, access off of 2026 with busing. Um,
picking up on on the the 2026 frontage would become problematic for for the the bus routes. It would create delays. Um, >> and uh you're you're generally familiar with the area, correct? >> Yes. And you're familiar with the
properties within Bridgewater that front Cornell Boulevard. Correct. >> Correct. >> And there are um several single family dwellings within the municipality of Bridgewater uh that uh obtain their primary access from Cornell Boulevard. Correct.
>> Yes, that's correct. I'm assuming you'll have an easement uh guaranteeing access to 2.03. >> Yes. Well, we Yes. When we uh when we do uh subdivide, we propose a subdivision by deed and the necessary easements and
we'll get into that when we talk about the drainage and the access uh there are going to be easements for the benefit that will be accorded with that uh subdivision deed. Uh and in your uh review and plan preparation, were you aware of any
restrictions um uh or prohibitions uh with connection to this public right of way of Cornell Boulevard? >> No, none. Uh it's the the municipal boundary line. Um, Cornell Boulevard is is is approx is a 100 foot wide right
ofway and the municipal boundary line approximately runs down the center of of that 100 foot wide right ofway. Um, so so access to both side access uh is is available from both sides of the of
the roadway. And you're generally aware that uh that 100 state right of way >> that is my understanding based on um DOT mapping that I had seen >> and it was transferred to both municipalities. >> Yes.
And you're generally aware that in 1995 both the burrow of Somerville and Township Bridgewater entered into an interlocal agreement for uh maintenance and reconstruction of that roadway. >> Yes. >> And they they shared in that cost of
construction. >> Yes. So when you designed this site plan, it was with the understanding that while there could potentially be access to 2026,
uh it was not practically feasible or desirable given the residential nature of >> that's correct. and the fact that um there are no prohibition access. >> Could you speak more directly into the
mic, please? >> There are no prohibitions to accessing Cornell Boulevard, which actually fronts this site within the township uh boundary. Correct. >> That's correct. >> Thank you. Uh if you could uh can you provide an
overview of the proposed development for lot 2.02 that's the uh 4unit building. >> Certainly. So the four-unit building is is uh designed for a uh veterans disabled veterans apartment building.
It's uh the building itself contains four two-bedroom dwelling units. building is approximately 36 by 72 feet in and um out outside dimensions. Um building coverage is approximately 10% um whereas the maximum allowed is 20%
per per the ordinance. Uh building is oriented to face the access drive coming in off of Cornell Boulevard. um with the parking in front of it. Um the building is proposed to be 26.7 ft which is
average grade to the peak and two stories in height and the maximum allowable is 35 ft and 2 and 1/2 stories. Uh, as far as setbacks go, um, the building is set back 18 feet from the the 202 206 right ofway and 31 ft
off of the Cornell frontage um, right away. The sideyard setback to to the proposed subdivision line is uh, 65 ft. Uh, it's an additional 20 ft to the to the um the
original outbound track line to uh, which would be 85 ft. Um and then the rear yard setback uh which would be measured from the rear of the building to the angle point um with uh Cornell Boulevard and over the
the storm basin w is 52 ft. Um the building uh the parking lot has been designed in accordance with RSIS standards uh which states that uh for two-bedroom units you have to provide two spaces per unit. Um, eight spaces
are required. We're actually providing nine. Um, and then, uh, EV parking requirements are not required in this instance for this building, for this part of the development because, uh, it is less than five dwelling units. Therefore, it's it's exempt of the
requirement. Um, ADA com uh, accessibility for parking. Um we provide one van accessible parking space which is the the minimum requirement based on the ADA code. Uh and that states that
the first 25 parking spaces in the parking field require are required to provide at least one van accessible parking space. Um there's a privacy >> before you move on. There was a question from one of the board members regarding
the ADA spaces for this building and you've identified that one ADA space. Um what are the general dimensions of those parking spaces? >> Again uh so so for starters the overall parking space dimensions again are in
accordance with RSIs which generally are 9 by8. ADA parking spaces um the the parking space itself is 8 ft wide by 18t in depth. The van accessible uh aisle is also eight feet wide and eight feet
deep. Um anything that is um not van accessible has to have a 5 foot wide aisle. Same depth 18 ft. >> And as depicted on this exhibit, you have those uh widths for uh your typical space, your van accessible aisle and the
handicap space. Correct. >> Yes, that's correct. Um, so just uh finishing off the additionally there is a 6 foot high solid vinyl privacy fence that runs um along the common line with with lot three. Um
>> can you just point that out? Um where that would be is it this area here is where that privacy fence is? >> Yes, that's correct. And then it runs along >> this boundary. >> It it crosses over the proposed property
line um onto lot 2.03. >> Please continue. Um and this is um the the the fence is provided along with landscape screening um along the property line to to uh create a buffer from the uh neighboring properties to
our proposed development. Um, this fence is similar in in uh nature to the one that exists um at the the uh kind of the hammerhead end of um where Cornell Boulevard um ends and and uh Arlene
Drive begins. Um the commercial development that is I I believe an educational use in nature to the north of our property has the same type of privacy fence that um for for visual aesthetic as far as somebody would want to know what we're looking to install um
that same type of fencing is what we're looking to put on on the property. >> Thank you. And if you could you provide that same type of overview for the proposed 11 unit building. >> Sure. Um so it's a 11 unit build uh 11
unit low and moderate income apartment building. Um it will have it will house three one-bedroom dwelling units, six two-bedroom dwelling units and two three-bedroom dwelling units. Building is approximately uh 2325
ft in footprint um with the overall dimensions of 55x76. Um similar to lot 2.02, 2. This building is uh this this building is 10% of the coverage of the property. Uh whereas 20
is 20% is what's allowed. Uh this building is oriented in the same manner as the um the the development on lot 2.02 where the building is facing the primary portion of the parking lot uh
facing the north. Um the building is 34.1 feet average grade to peak and three stories in height. Um the maximum allowed height per the zone is 38 ft and three stories. Um the
building setbacks, the front yard setback uh to the 2026 frontage is 53 feet. That's to the rightway line. Um the sideyard setback which is uh 19 feet which is measured to lot four um and the
rear yard setback which is measured to the uh common line with lot three which is to the east of us is 83 ft. Um same as parking has been designed in the same manner as what was um mentioned for lot
2.02 102 um onebedroom or based on RSIS. So a one-bedroom unit requires um 1.8 parking spaces per unit. Um a two-bedroom unit as noted before is two spaces per unit and a uh three-bedroom
unit is 2.1 spaces per unit. Um the total number of parking spaces that are required is 22. Um it was noted in the uh planners report that the number of parking spaces um needed to be clarified
and and I'm testifying tonight that the correct clarification is 22 spaces not 21 as noted on the the plans that were submitted. Um and as I noted previously about EV spaces, this building has more
than five dwelling units. So it is subject to the EV requirements. Um and with that uh 15% of the parking spaces need to be provided as um make ready EV spaces. So that equates to three spaces.
Um >> and those spaces have now been identified on this colorized site plan. >> That's correct. on on the colorized site plan. They are noted um on the easterly side of the building adjacent to the handicap accessible parking spaces as um
with with green symbols. >> Um what does EV ready mean? Means it's going to be equipment's going to be there, electric will be there or no? >> Yeah, you have to run you have to run the conduit and the electrical out to it. Um, but you don't necessarily have
to install it right away. So, it's made ready to be installed when the time comes. Now, one of the requirements per the ordinance indicate that the the first third of the uh 15%
which in this case uh is the first one parking space um needs to be not just make ready but installed at the the the time of the CO or prior to >> install to make ready to >> then it would be to make ready and then the way the the way the ordinance reads
based on that is uh three years later the next third or the next one needs to be uh go from make ready to installed and then six years later the final one/3 needs to be installed. >> I hear you. Why wouldn't you just make them all ready up front?
>> I didn't write the ordinance. I can't tell you. >> Does that mean you can't do it? >> No, he I it it could be done. >> Mr. Bjouro, you know, let's hold some of those questions to the as soon as he's done with his testimony. I'd like this to develop a little bit. Yes sir. >> We we'll have adequate time for
everybody on the day is here to pose their questions. >> Please proceed, Mr. Fischer. >> Uh thank you. Um I I noted ADA accessibility on building for lot 202. The same applies here. Um there are 22
total parking spaces as I noted. So that still meets the requirement for only needing to provide one uh minimum ADA accessible parking space and we've done that as well. Um the bu both buildings are ADA compliant uh and accessible into
the building. Um they both have uh handicap accessible ramps um designed not to be greater than one on 12 in slope. Um and they meet the the the accessible requirements. Uh similar the we talked about the
privacy fence that that extends along the the common line with lot 3 and lot uh 2.03 03 in the development for it and there will also be landscape screening uh combined with that fence. >> Thank you Mike. Before we move on to
site circulation, I just want to take a step back and address a comment related to that encroachment. So what I'm now displaying is uh sheet three of your site plan packet.
>> Um this sheet is the survey that was prepared by your office. Correct. >> That's correct. Heck, are we marking this exhibit A3? >> Do do we need to mark this? This was >> submitted with the uh >> Yes, this this is in the application. >> Yeah. Then then no. >> Okay. So, yes, this is sheet three of uh
the minor uh subdivision plat. It's entitled minor subdivision plat uh from the minor subdivision preliminary site f and final site plan uh application of Weatsworth Properties urban renewal LLC
that was submitted uh originally. So uh can you identify here the encroachment area? I can um the the the label indicating paved parking lot um
shows a cross-hatched area um around it both on the lot two in within the paved area on the diner's property as well as over the property line and it's noted as being um the pavement is over by six feet plus or minus. So based off of this
uh surveyed uh this survey uh and your observation of the site, is it your testimony that uh what was depicted as exhibit A1 is an accurate depiction of the property boundary? >> It is accurate. Yes. >> Thank you.
So, moving along to um the site circulation uh that's being proposed. Um I know we touched on it a bit, but for purposes of completeness, can you uh provide a board with a recitation of the details of this site circulation plan?
Sure. Respect to the driveways, >> uh its dimensions and proposed circulation. >> Sure. As I noted previously, this development is a residential development. Therefore, it's bound by the RSIS requirements. Uh, with that said, the driveway um and access aisles
provided on this proposed design are all a minimum of 24 foot wide. They're curbed driveways. Um, and this is this is an RSIS requirement for 90° parking fronting on the um the access aisle. Um, I've noted about the um the ADA
accessibility both in the parking lot and into the building. Um, both buildings are equipped with um trash enclosures. Um, they're noted as being 10t by 15t in size. Um,
it should be noted um that that the trash enclosure um on proposed lot 2.02 is approximately 135 ft from the dwelling on lot 3. Um, and the trash
enclosure for proposed lot 2.03 is 165 ft from lot 3. Um, and to put things into perspective, as shown on exhibit A1, um, the diner's dumpster location, uh, is approximately 83 feet from lot 6,
which is the nearest residential dwelling to, um, to that dumpster. And likewise, um, lot 15.14, um, which is the commercial property to the north of us, um, is approximately
130 ft to the dwelling on lot 1502, uh, both of which are, uh, Somerville properties. So, referring back to exhibit A1, you've identified in red measurements that you made um between the the existing dumpster location of
the time to eat diner as well as the existing dumpster location to the closest dwelling uh for that uh other commercial property. >> Yes. Um trash pickup uh was noted that it's
going to be picked up uh previously was noted that it's going to be picked up by uh a refuge contractor. Um, I've uh also prepared exhibits uh indicating um the turning movements into
and out of the site um to access both uh locations to show that that it can be circulation and and and maneuverability can be done on the property um without um leaving the property and creating a a backup condition out onto Cornell
Boulevard. Thank you. Before we get into those truck turning um uh studies that you you prepared, can you just briefly touch upon uh the design waiver that was requested for um distance from a
driveway to property boundary? >> Sure. It's it's I guess it's technical in nature. Um it's because we're sharing access across the properties. So uh by default the the access drive is zero feet at the proposed property line. Um
whereas um everywhere else on the site um we have maintained a minimum of of 10 ft if not greater to that same access drive. So, so while I guess our understanding the intent of that requirement is to keep an adequate
distance between a drive aisle and a parallel property boundary and we comply with respect to those distances but we've identified the fact that this driveway crosses a property boundary between two properties as requiring that
technical waiver. >> Yes, that's correct. So now moving back to the truck uh turning studies that you prepared. Um I'm going to >> there's three different ones.
>> What we'll do is we will mark and distribute all three. It'll be um A4, A5, and A6. And then we'll discuss them in turn. Yes, that was the I didn't mention it,
but yes, I I've also provided a a fire truck maneuvering plan based on the uh fire department's review of the the site. They wanted to show um access and maneuverability throughout the site. So, let's start with that while I hand these out.
>> Sure. Um, so just a general overview based on on the the fire department's review, they provided us uh technical data on their their largest vehicle, which is a uh an aerial ladder truck um from district 3. Um, so we we replicated
that vehicle in dimension and and created a a maneuvering um footprint through the site um to access the the rear building. Um, and by doing so, he's also going to have access to the front
building. Um, and then all all maneuvering uh will be contained on site. There won't be any backing out onto Cornell Boulevard. Um all access can be contained in on on the subject property in the proposed development.
>> This is A3. This is A3. Now moving on to the next structuring analysis. >> This was utilizing a um somewhat generic um garbage truck. Um not knowing what type of a vehicle would be um
frequenting this building to pick up trash. Um I looked at it from two different perspectives. One is a front-loading garbage truck and one is a rear loading garbage truck. Um and and that's what has been provided for these next two exhibits. >> Okay. And so this one is refu refuge truck maneuvering exhibit with the front
loading option. Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. And can you just describe the um loading maneuver? >> Sure. So, so uh first I have a uh vehicle accessing off of Cornell Boulevard uh heading in a northerly
direction um from what would probably be Route 28, I would presume. Um turning into the property and p nosing up head first into the uh trash enclosure for proposed lot 202. Um then from there uh
turning to the um southwest uh heading towards the development on lot 203 um and then making a right-hand turn and nosing up head first to the trash enclosure um which would be adjacent to
to uh 2026. And then to exit the site, uh the the truck would back up on the property um to the parking lot adjacent to the uh east of
the 11 unit building and then exit the building heading back towards what would presumably be Route 28 because um Arlene Drive is a culde-sac dead end. Thank >> you. And that we will mark for identification as A4.
And then finally um what's depicted as or um what has been entitled refuge truck maneuvering exhibit parenthesis rear loading will identify that as exhibit A5. >> Okay. >> Mr. Fiser, can you describe uh this
truck turning movement? >> Sure. Um moving in the same manner as as noted in the the front loading. Um, this truck would enter the site um would pull up to to the rear of the property first
um which would be uh the rear of the development um which would be the um easterly side of the 11 unit building and then back into the parking area up to where the enclosure area is uh
adjacent to routes 2026. Um, after picking up the trash, it would exit the site, making a lefthand turn, uh, pulling up in front of the fourunit vet veterans building, backing up to that enclosure, picking up that trash,
and then, um, heading to the east and exiting the site in a similar manner as as the front loading. >> Thank you. And based on these various truck turning analysis that you prepared um you are uh confident that uh your
typical moving trucks delivery vehicles could circulate the site without any issue. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Um moving back to the color site plan uh Mr. Fiser, can you describe the type of
um mechanicals, accessory structures that uh are being proposed? >> Uh right now what's proposed on the site um are are for in terms of mechanicals um are atgrade um HVAC units. Um they
they are 12 I believe HVAC units proposed for the uh 11 unit low/m moderate income building and then four for the four unit uh disabled veteran
and those are the the 12 are located on the westerly side of the building. Um and the the four are split. Um two are on the northerly side and two are on the westerly side of the four-unit building.
So all those um HVAC pads and units are are generally located away from the um neighboring residential properties and they're typically behind the proposed buildings. Correct.
>> Yes. And they have their own screening included. >> Thank you. And those uh HVAC pads, they're included in your impervious coverage calculations, correct? >> Yes, that's correct. >> And there are no other um building mechanicals proposed. Correct.
>> No. >> Um so now moving on, can you describe the uh grading for this site and the proposed utility plan? >> Sure. So, uh, the site, as I noted earlier, under existing conditions, there's no steep slopes on the property. Um, therefore, there's no steep slope
disturbances, and we're not bound by the, um, the the hillside development ordinance as far as the requirements therein. Um, the proposed grading on site, uh, has a maximum slope or grade of a 3:1 slope. Um, this is a common
slope for, um, proposed developments. Uh it makes for sta or st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st st stabilizing the the the property or or the the um the development um manageable. Uh a 3 to1 slope is is pretty much the the steepest
you would want to propose something and and and still provide any type of a um mechanical maintenance uh across it. Um all these slopes are proposed to be uh and disturbances are proposed to be stabilized in accordance with the
Somerset Union Soil Conservation District. Um and then um as far as uh soil moving uh did a a rough estimate for the property um to determine that we are
approximately 1500 cubic yards of cut, which would be material that would be removed from the site. And this is primarily because of the storm basins and the buildings with the basement. Um >> and um
I think you mentioned earlier that this site does not have any environmental constraints. It's not within a uh a flood zone. Correct. >> None. >> So uh the township's flood damage prevention ordinance is not applicable. >> That is correct. >> Can you describe the proposed utility
connections? >> Sure. So we have uh water, sewer, electric and gas proposed. Um the sewer connection is that's proposed um sewer and water is proposed via uh an extension of the American water uh
public systems that are located in Cornell Boulevard um within the right ofway of Cornell Boulevard. Um the sewer system that we're we're proposing um is a we're proposing uh two individual um
pump stations or lift stations um for each of one for each of the building to to pump the sewer up from the property um to the nearest manhole which is located um in front of um
lot four I believe it is. Um and we're connecting with a low pressure force main um not in the traveled way but in the right of way in the the um
the shoulder of of um Cornell Boulevard. Uh water uh we're proposing um 2-in service connections into the building into each of the buildings. Um lot 2.03 3 requires a an extension of a
4-in line up to the the building because it's a longer run and then it'll be uh teed off to to two separate um 2-in lines. >> And uh with respect to your sewer and water connections, that's through which provider?
>> Uh American Sewer and Water. >> As part of >> American Water, >> as part of your uh review and site preparation, you did review the township's uh sewer map, correct? Yes, I did. >> And what I'm displaying is a copy of the
uh map that you were provided to by >> This will be A6. >> This will be A6. You were provided that u from the township? >> Yes. >> And this is what you reviewed? >> Yes, it is. >> Okay. And based on your review, it indicates that uh all the properties within Bridgewwater fronting Cornell
Boulevard connectell boulevard. Correct. >> That's correct. So what we're proposing is consistent with uh how existing properties are connected. Correct? >> Yes. Thank you. And as I indicated, we marked this as for identification as as uh A6. And and
based on this map, there's also a notation about the time to eat diner that is uh adjacent to the site. Correct. >> That's correct. >> And based on your view, does does that
property tie into any connections from Route 202 206? >> Does not. Okay. Thank you. Can you touch on the uh utility connections for gas and electric? >> Uh we're we're extending uh gas and
electric also from um Cornell Boulevard. There's a gas man located in Cornell Boulevard. Um, and we're connecting um off of the the existing electrical services off of Cornell Boulevard. >> Thank you. Can you now touch on the
proposed storm water management? >> Sure. So the property um has been designed with the benefit of two surface bio retention basins. Um >> and those are identified on your color site plan.
>> That's correct. >> And the first one is uh I guess central to the site. >> It's central to the site. It it uh it handles the majority of the runoff uh and disturbance from from the portion of lot 2.03. And the second one is on the
northernmost portion of the site. >> That's correct. And it collects the remainder of the of the site not already collected by the basin for lot 203. >> Okay. And uh can you strike that? Um and you are collecting runoff from both the
parking and drive aisles as well as the um uh the roofs. >> That's correct. The roof roof leaders uh are tied into the to the uh collection conveyance system on site. Um there's a series of catch basins and piping which discharge into the basin or into each of
the basins. Um and and they've been designed to to uh handle the 100year uh handle the 100year runoff. and you know the the details uh and calculations they've been um uh provided as part of
the storm water management report that was submitted with the application. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Thank you. And based off of this design and your analysis, um it's your opinion that there won't be any increased runoff. >> That's correct.
>> So it's fully compliant with uh D storm water management regulations. Yes, that's correct. >> Thank you. Um, now there were um several comments in the uh burough engineering report related to storm water management. You reviewed those comments?
>> Yes, I have. >> Okay. And uh you know specifically with with respect to comments 6A through J uh they they um concerned um
calculations, revisions. Do you have any issue with making those modifications? >> None whatsoever. >> We'll comply with all of those comments. >> Yes. >> Okay. And with respect to the additional storm water management um comments of the report, are there any issues with um
complying with those comments and working with the to the board engineer satisfaction if this were approved? >> None whatsoever. >> Thank you. >> Let's move on to the landscaping and lighting. Can you describe that aspect of the um development?
>> Um so the township's ordinance has a requirement for the number of uh replacement trees that need to be provided based on the area disturbance. Um we do not meet the requirement um of the ordinance. We we've attempted to meet
the intent of the ordinance. Uh we fell a little short in terms of the replacement trees that we're providing. Um but in terms of of um a tree inventory, uh there's a total of 112 trees on site and we're removing 93 of them. Um
>> taking a step back with respect to the tree replacement though, um the ordinance does provide for payment in blue. Correct. >> Yes, it does. >> So we will be complying with that portion of the ordinance for any trees that uh cannot be replaced on site. So that being said, can you just describe
the uh planting schedule and the proposed tree replacement? >> Sure. So, so the the the landscape design in general has been designed in accordance with the the the landscape ordinance um which is 126-19.1.
Um in that there's a there's a list of um um acceptable and nonacceptable plantings. Um we followed those plan we followed that list. um and and included um all all acceptable plantings based on
the township's uh recommendations of the ordinance. Um in terms of of of a of the schedule itself, uh there's a series of ornamental and um shade trees. There are evergreen trees. Um
there are um medium-sized shrubs and then foundation plantings um scattered across the site. Specifically uh to note there there is a buffering along the um the property line common with lot three
um the adjacent lot three to provide as much screening to to that neighbor as possible in addition to the uh privacy fence that's been provided um with the the idea that this is um meeting the
intent of the the ordinance. I know that there was a comment from the burrow planner regarding um looking for some additional um variety of of plantings and we have no objection to to meeting that requirement. >> So we can work with the uh board planner
about any proposed modifications to the planting schedule, any changes in species. >> That's correct. Um and going back to the screening along um lot three um those plantings,
what side of the privacy fence are they on? >> They're on the adjacent property owner side. >> Okay. So they're within the property boundary, but they um the property fence will be closer to the driveway than the plantings will. Correct. So >> that's that's correct.
>> Thank you. Now, while we're still on landscaping, uh there is an additional waiver with respect to um plantings within five feet of the building footprint. Can you describe that waiver? >> So, the waiver uh or or the ordinance
requires that um 10 shrubs are required to be planted every 20 linear feet of foundation within five feet of that said foundation. Um, again, we we fall short of this requirement, but we, as as you can see,
we've we've landscaped um primarily around the foundation as as much as we we possibly could with the exception of the areas where we needed to provide the access into the buildings. Um, >> so the the waiver is primarily driven by
the ADA access requirements, correct? >> You could say that. Yes. Moving back to lighting, can you describe the proposed lighting? >> Sure. So, we have 13 polemounted light fixtures uh located across the site. Um
the maximum mounting height for any of these fixtures um is 15 ft. Each one of these fixtures, they're they're all LED um and and they're all equipped with houseside shield cut offs um to to minimize any back backlight glare. um
specific to any any um adjacent dwellings or or or um adjacent developments. Um the lights are noted on the plans as being uh timer operated from dusk to 11
p.m. And as a side note, um it's not noted anywhere, but um typically we do provide security lighting from from those fixtures which can be um established and determined. And uh there was a comment about uh uh
light levels um in it the engineering report. >> Yes, it was. >> Can you address that? >> So it was noted that the the light levels exceeded um the the threshold across the property line um in the
direction of the rightaway line as I understood it. Um and and this is primarily because we're we're proposing a light fixture at the intersection. Um and and this is this is for a safety concern uh that we're providing lighting at the intersection. Um so so if if
relief is required for that, then >> can you point out where that light >> the intersection with >> I'm sorry uh the intersection with Cornell Boulevard and our proposed driveway. So is is this the light fixture that uh is proposed that is it is uh
>> generating that light but it's it's basically for safety and access. Correct. >> That's correct. >> And there was another note about uh light levels at at zero uh >> at the southern property area. Can you address that?
>> Sure. So, so we did not provide any proposed uh polemounted lighting um or or or ground mounted lighting um at the the southerntherly side of the 11 unit building which would be the um access
point into the building. However, um and and I think that the architect um can testify to it more so um there there will be building mounted lights on that side of the building um for for illuminance um and and and accessibility. Um they were not included
in in the uh light study that I I had prepared. >> So your light study did not include the door mounted lighting that was on the building. Correct. >> That's correct. So there will be lighting for those access points but it's not captured in the lighting study. >> That's correct. Thank you.
And you know before we get into just mi miscellaneous um review comments, do you just want to touch upon um the applicability and status of any outside approvals? >> Um well, we we did submit for for county
planning board approval. Um, we have not heard back yet. We did submit uh to the DOT for a lot subdivision application as that's required. Excuse me. Um, when you're subdividing a property that fronts on a state highway, um, that
application was submitted at the prior to the, um, the first hearing we were all at, um, I have not gotten a response from the DOT yet in terms of their review on it. Um, but they did cash the check, so um, they're they have it. Um they haven't
acknowledged anything on it yet. >> And as part of that application, you submitted traffic calculations. >> That's correct. >> Generation. >> Yes, that's correct. Can >> you just touch on that very briefly? >> Sure. So um the trip generation that was provided
for that application um were both peak hour and um uh daily maximum trip counts. um to establish that that this project this development is is minor um in in terms
of what it's proposing um based on a 15 unit um development which is the combination of these two buildings. The AM peak hour trip generation would be 10 peak hour trips. Um, that's usually, just for those that are unaware, um,
that's that's usually the the hours between 7 and 9:00 am. Um, and it's it's any 60inute single consecutive um period with the highest traffic volume that that's that's counted for that. Uh, along the same lines, the PM
peak hour is 11 peak hour trips. Um, that's between the hours of 4 and 6:00 p.m. for a weekday. And then uh the weekend peak uh trip generation was uh 11 peak hour trips. Um a maximum daily
for the weekday uh was evaluated at being 73 trips. So that's 73 total trips in one day in and out of this site. Um and and the weekend daily trips is 106. So slightly more. But um
the typically the the uh peak hour trips are are looked at um as anything less than 100 trips is is a minor traffic generator and doesn't require uh an additional traffic study. Um >> and that that's not daily trips, that's
>> it's peak hour. Correct. >> And our our peak hour threshold is >> between 10 and 11. >> Thank you. And then finally um with respect to the um you did review um the various
reports memorandum that you received in response to this application correct? >> Yes. Um and with respect to the uh reports that you received from the township um any issue with complying with uh those u those comments?
>> No. Uh no no objection to to to meeting any of the requirements. I believe I've noted through my testimony already at this point that um that there were certain comments that that we we've acknowledged that that needed specific uh attention with the the township's
professionals and and we'd be glad to to work with them to resolve it. >> With that, that concludes my uh direct uh of Mr. Fiser uh and I'll open up to questions from the board and the board of professionals. >> Thank you, Mr. H. Thank you, Mr. Fischer. Looking at the time, I'd like
to keep things running smoothly here. So, it's just about 8:30. Uh, and I'd ask if the board would take a 10-minute break, and we'll reconvene here just about at uh 8:40. I'll take a motion to resume the meeting. >> I'll make a motion. >> That's Miss Sakura. Second, Mr. Banga.
Miss Propes, could I have a roll call, please? >> Chairman Vasio, >> I am here. >> Mr. Vanjouro >> here. >> Council Manisla >> here. >> Mr. Papis >> here. >> Mr. Mora >> here. >> Mr. Wang >> here. >> Sakora. >> Yes. Here.
>> Banga >> here. >> Miss Chardawitch >> here. >> Mr. Chowdery. >> Yes. Here. >> And for the record, all of our board professionals are >> Thank you, Miss Propes. Okay. Mr. Heyman, I believe you said Mr. Fischer concluded his testimony. Correct. >> That's correct.
>> Very good. At this time, we'll open up to the board with any questions regarding the testimony just heard. And I think I'll start over here with Mr. Bonjardo. I know you had a couple questions there earlier. >> The first one that I asked was that >> um why wouldn't you just go and make
those three parking slots electric right away? >> Uh well, right off the bat, like as I indicated, it's it's not required to do so. Um it is an option to do so. However, in speaking with the applicant,
um he he he would like the flexibility to keep them open uh and and utilize them as uh parking spaces until it's deemed necessary by the the ordinance to to make them EV spaces. >> Basically gives us the flexibility to see what the lease up's going to look
like, um what the EV utilization would be, so we're not just restricting those to EV if the need is not there yet. >> Thank you. Can I ask can I ask a question please? >> Mr. Chowry.
>> Okay. I have several of them. That's fine. >> Okay. Thank you. uh you indicated that uh because of the residential nature of the planning that's what you prefer to have the uh
entry from the cornell boulevard not from the 2026 uh but the last time I think the owner truly or actually he suggested that he actually out of the six or seven lo uh locations that you have got two locations who are actually from the
highway. So why this is different this time? >> Um >> is that something can you can answer? >> Uh in some in some capacity I can answer it because I've worked with this developer on on numerous other applications. Um there there are
instances where access was only available via the state highway. Um or or physically or financially um didn't make sense to extend a road driveway. Sorry, I don't want to call it a roadway. a driveway. Um the added
distance from the other frontage whereas um in this instance uh accessibility was was was better suited off of the residential neighborhood. >> Does that make sense?
>> Oh no, I understand what you are saying. Basically, let me repeat it. All you are saying that u from the other two locations that you know had access from the highway rather than the u regular road. So you said uh those those uh
instances there is no uh availability of the access from the other side. That's why you basically prefer this. This one is different because this one you want to basically since there is access that's what you are using uh residential neighborhood uh access. Okay. Uh well um
thank you. Uh then in your uh testimony you uh provide you said that 18 ft from the 202 corner from of 202 from I think it was uh
uh I think it was lot number uh 2.03 I think uh if I'm not mistaken. >> 2.02 it's the four unit. >> 2.02 the four unit one. Okay. That is from the corner or from the >> It's from the corner of the building measured out perpendicular to the 202
206 right of way. >> Yeah, I think the northeast corner is the closest to the 202 if I'm not mistaken. 20 202 206 >> sorry >> northeast corner is the closest to the 2022 20 >> oh oh direction northwest
>> northwest oh okay sure it will be northwest okay so there 18 ft escal yes >> uh and my assumption is according to our professional planner that is sufficient or >> uh that I don't believe that there are any setback requirements noted in the in
the >> okay well I'm sure if there's our PL professional planner will basically ask the questions. >> There were no standards noted in this AH3 zone. >> Okay. >> Can you can quickly tell me the
footprint for lot 202 and 203? >> The footprint? >> Yes. >> Square footage wise? >> Yes. Yeah. Approximately. >> Sure. Uh the square footage for lot 202 for the building uh is 23
25 square ft. That's the full >> 23 >> 2325. >> 2325. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And I believe maybe I misspoke.
Uh the footprint for the um lot 2.03. I'm not sure what I said. Maybe I misspoke based on my notes, but I I'll accurately correct it if I misspoke before. It's It's 4,250 square feet. >> Thank you. >> I'm guessing you call me.
>> Yeah. Okay. No problem. Thank you. That's the problem with being an engineer. >> Okay. Uh 10 uh three after three years. Okay. So, uh Mr. Bundan already asked a question
about uh EV Um you know sometimes we should always think about do something better. So I know you are totally under the ordinance and requirements everything else. Can we at least make sense? Uh we asked the questions we more like whether you can be a little bit
flexible or not. Nowadays most of the you know new cars are coming as a EV. So can you at least think about making two already ready EV rather than waiting for ordinance or after 3 years. So, so what we can do is typically these
these stations are dual port. So when you put one in, two of them by default end up being EV. So >> right, >> that's that's easily. >> Yeah, you can put the station in the center and then two cars can do it. I mean >> how it's been designed on my plans. >> Okay, that's much more appreciated then.
Thank you. Okay. and the sound barrier and u obviously you know uh sound barrier is basically from 2026 you don't have a sound barrier you have a basically hedges right tree hedges there >> that's correct we have we have a landscape buffer
>> okay uh it's basically sound barrier you could not may not be professional sound barrier but can you at least think about it doing the wooden barrier there so part of some protection of the your 11 unit uh tenant >> what what type of a barrier are you referring >> any barrier.
>> Yeah, something like that. It's basically for a safety reason, not because anything else, not as a sound barrier. >> Fence. >> Yeah, you can make a W. >> A sound barrier, but a fence. >> Yeah, sorry. You're right. >> I I don't have any objection to that. I think the only question might come into play is whether or not a fence can be
permitted in the front yard. >> Okay. So, that professional uh I will seek the from there. >> Well, I'm going to check the the township code to to determine if that would be considered in the front yard. And I also just want to make sure that if no DOT approval would be required
based on where it's located as well. >> Thank you. >> But I'll look into it. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Uh you also mentioned that you the total tree was 112 and you took out 93. >> That's that's correct. >> Okay. Now uh as you know as an engineer
so nowadays most of the so-called commercials um uh you know parking space and all these things can be make uh pervy ships parking space do you have any plan for that for storm water management additional
storm water management instead of basically having a non-pervious uh space you can actually make a per space >> no I didn't I didn't co I didn't design it with with the intent for pvious pavement because in instead we designed a uh storm water management base two
separate storm water management basins that are bio retention basins. They're designed to um run off will will uh be collected discharged to them. Um those basins themselves have plantings in the bottom of them. Uh the basins have um
perforated under drain to which the the runoff that's collected across the parking lots and and the roof areas um infiltrate through the the bottom area of the basin. Um they get treated and then they they are discharged.
>> Okay. So you already mentioned that you >> in lie of of of a porous pavement. >> Okay. We are providing a green infrastructure manage uh type of BMP based on the the storm water management rules. >> Yeah, you did mention you're planning for 100 years uh storm water management.
Okay. So, basically those two areas will be sufficient to cover all the storm water um based on the requirement for the townships. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Okay. Uh is there any way you can you are seeing that some waters basically storm water during the heavy rain will
go to lot three and four. Uh no it's it's it's it's not designed for that to happen. Um runoff is is collected. Um the parking lot's curbed. Uh it it cuts off the the um any runoff
that that would originate um at the southwesterly corner of the property where the encroachment for the parking spaces were at the the time to eat diner. If if runoff landed in that corner and and ran across the property, it would get collected on in the the
catch basins along the curb of the property and then get discharged into our basins. >> Great. You have a catch basin on the um by the basically perimeter of the lot tree also. >> I have I have catch basins along that curb side. Yes. >> Okay. I did not notice when you said
that. Okay. >> Um they are noted um >> Okay. In a drawing >> on on the draw on the the site plan drawings. Yes. >> Okay. No problem. Thank you very much for clarification on that one. Uh so
then uh okay then comes to LED lighting. Yeah. >> Uh you have 13 lights 15 ft height. Uh and there minimize the backlight because LED comes with nowadays backlight compensations. Um and it turns out at 11:00 p.m. night.
>> That's Yes, that's correct. >> Okay. uh do you have any pro I know you'll have a security lights there which will be probably you know either coming up with any of the perturbance or disturbance but is those lights for suppose you know some Saturday Friday
children's playing even at night or something I mean or emergency things comes on fire or anything else with you know thieves comes in or something is there any way uh there is a trigger point that you know the light can be turned on during the emergency
>> uh I I'm not aware ware of any uh I'm sure that it if that's something that the board is interested in I'm sure we could look into that to see what kind of uh other available controls >> well there's a two aspect of it in this particular you know I don't know about other apartment complex but this is a veterans are living there so you know it
is important to protect them as well as the obviously there small childrens will be all over the 11 apartments so it may be worthwhile to consider at least to turn on during the emergency cases um so that at least people can have a somewhere to run or do something
>> technology that's that's available for >> Oh yeah, that is why I'm saying it to you. I know it is available >> possibility I'm sure um I don't typically spec it but I'm sure that we can look into it. >> Okay, finally I'm ended chairman >> please. >> I'm done. >> He's done
>> finished. Thank you very much. >> Thank you Suzanne. Can we bring up exhibit A3 or A2? I think it is the one that shows the um catchbations and some of the foliage. >> Uh I think that's exhibit A1 is it?
Yeah. >> That's A2. >> A2. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Mr. Core, I know a few of us have questions regarding storm water manager. You want to kick that off? >> Yeah. You want me to start with water? >> Sure. >> So, uh can you describe you didn't talk much about the runoff? You said that it
would go into the the basins on both edges. How does the grade or the the property encourage the water to run to those two specific areas? >> Just let me know which >> what would probably be beneficial is in
the plan set um page 10 of the submitted plan set. Uh this is what is uh noted as the proposed drainage area map. So this is the delineation of the drainage areas as they're captured on on the property under proposed conditions. Um there are
are um heavier dashed lines indicating the delineation of the drainage areas. Um and and with that are also shown the proposed and existing grades. So you can kind of get a feel for for what areas
are are tributary to which basins and how they how they discharge to that point. Um >> could you describe that please? >> So uh starting sure pitches. >> Sure. So so starting in the the southwesterly corner of the property uh
a portion of the time to eat diner the pavement area um runs across our property. Uh it it's it's higher in elevation, so it runs off over land across our property and and through what's currently wooded today. Um
under proposed conditions, uh we're proposing to capture it uh runoff is going to run down uh onto our parking lot uh from the time to eat diner onto our parking lot uh collected by the the
three storm catch basins. Um there's one um the northerly northeasterly side of the 11 unit building in the parking lot. >> Sure. >> Mr. Fisher, are you saying that the those are the present conditions of the
slope of the ground or is it going to be graded to Okay. If you could describe that, I think that's it would be helpful to the board. >> Okay. So So, so the parking lot itself will be graded. Um it's it's uh it's it's at a uh a 1 to 2% slope across the
parking lot. Um and and overland that the the runoff will run across that graded parking lot and get captured by these these catch basins. >> You want to identify them? >> Sure. So, so those those two catch basins are are
in the the common driveway area and then there's a a catch basin um to the to the left of that in the parking lot area um which the parking lot grades and drains towards that catch basin. It'll capture
it and then run into the storm basins. Those those um catch basins are all interconnected by piping and they discharge via a um flared section into the storm basin. >> Can you talk to me about the bottom left
area where the water runoff goes to the bottom of the property, not not the last dotted line. How does that water get captured in the basin or the bio retention ponds and the catch basins in the other areas? bottom left.
>> Yeah. So where that corner that sharp corner is underneath the 11 unit property >> adjacent to lot three >> bottom Oh yeah. So so that that's overland flow that is not captured. Um but that's that that was run off that went in that it that went across lot
three to begin with. We're reducing the flow that's running across lot three by cutting it off with this with our development with the curbing is effect the curbing and the parking lot and the way it's graded are uh designed to cut off the runoff that that was running
under current conditions across lot three. >> But under current conditions across lot the your current lot there's already there's trees and grass and >> correct but it's runoff that would run across that area nonetheless. >> Right. But covering more of that grass
and trees and stuff would cause more of that water to pull in that corner that was not a corner before >> is the heavy dashed line in that area. That's not the property line. That's following the curb line. Correct. >> Heavy dash line is the drainage area. Uh >> correct. And that follows the curb line.
>> That's correct. Yes. So then the property line is that solid lighter dark line >> where >> parallel there. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, it's going to
>> because I think there's confusion. So everything to the west of that heavy dashed line, the drainage area gets captured. >> Can we add a Can you add a catch basin there? Um, well, before I answer that, what
what I would like to say is the the heavier generator of of the storm water runoff is typically the the pavement areas. You're alluding to that when when you're talking about the the disturbance and what's currently wooded now and and it's
not going to be wooded >> based on it design. We're collecting all of the the paved areas, the heavy heavy runoff areas, um that would be generating flow across that property. It's getting collected, cut off and collected and and discharged into our basin.
>> I'm not worried about what's going to run across your property now. I'm worried about what can cross over the property now and won't because there's a stop right at that edge. Can is there something that you can do to catch that water that's going to come down that
line especially for lot three and four? Am I saying that right? Yes. >> Right. So So Mike, is it fair to say that all of the water that flows over the parking lot is going to be captured? >> Yes. So any runoff in the built
condition that flows from our site to the adjacent site would be sheet flow that is coming from uh pvious landscaped areas. Correct. >> Yes. >> Similar to the existing condition. >> Yes. Okay. >> Because again we're going to landscape
that area. What about the water that's not going to run over the lot the part the your paved lot that now can right that's going to pull in that corner. >> We're not sending any additional runoff
in that direction though. We're actually cutting it off. >> But is it going to pool or is it going to be channeled into some facility? I think that's >> can can the property between the the the the homes fronting on Cornell Boulevard
the rear property line that is somewhat skewed um in relation to the curb line. So there's like a long it's not even triangular from the the rear property line to the curb. That area you're saying is not being that water is not
flowing into the parking area. Correct. You're you're assuming that that's going to flow onto the adjoining residential property. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. Is there a way that that can be graded to move the runoff towards the curb instead of towards the
>> like grade a burm there >> or just grade it in such a way create a swale or grade it in such a way to to you know move the water towards the curbing. I think that's what Ashley's getting to, right? >> Um I can take a look at that. Take a look at that.
>> Yeah, because if you look at the the water run off like the dotted line the whatever we called it before the thicker dotted lines that water doesn't run like that now and we're not seeing how it runs now because the property is not graded the same, right? Because you're
you're going to change the grading. So, I can't see what it is currently to what it's going to and I'm concerned about lot four and three with the water runoff. I'd like to see a solution. I'm not an expert there, but I'd love to see a solution for that. Um, what is the plan
to maintain the bio retention basins and the catch basins? >> Uh, typically an operation and maintenance manual report is prepared. Um, and that's something that um we typically agree to as as a condition of approval to be prepared. Um and and and
with that it'll include um the maintenance of of the structures themselves, checking it for checking any of the the drainage structures for cracks, um checking the basins after um storm events to make sure that they drain
properly. Um it it's a pretty standard document in terms of um the the requirements that that are provided. >> How do we know it'll be maintained?
>> Because it gets submitted to the board professionals as a condition of approval. So we generally do those at the end because there might be modifications to design as part of this process. So we want to do the maintenance for that final design rather than any preliminary.
>> I wait to ask the other questions until >> sure. Uh sure. Thank you Mr. Fischer if I can. You have one. >> I have drainage. >> You have drainage please. >> So u just picking up on Mr. Cora's questioning about the basins. Um I guess
one question for Mr. Burr. U Mr. would the new um requirements that the township has imposed on it from the state or the federal government include these as basins that we have to ensure
are maintained and inspected regularly? >> Uh yes, absolutely. We're going to have to annually certify to the state that these basins are being maintained. the township is not responsible for maintaining them, but we have to confirm
and certify to the state that they are. So, um, the applicants engineer is correct. There will need to be an operations and maintenance manual provided that'll be recorded on the deed of the property as a condition of any approval. But what I would ask in
addition to that, if the board is inclined to approve the application, is to make sure that an annual certification by the end of the year is being provided by the applicant to the township confirming that they did in fact maintain the basins. That's going
to then allow us to keep record and and have the backup when we certify it to the state. But there's also an ordinance that the township has that requires that of correct private property owners that have detention >> condition is just another level of
enforcement. But yeah, the ordinance is absolutely in place. um the um inlets that was that were mentioned um I assume these are in conformance and the entire storm water
management plan is in conformance with the new and updated storm water management requirements. >> Yes, I am. >> Okay. >> Yes, it is. >> Um that's all I have for drainage. Thank you, >> Mr. Chairman. May I
>> just a quick second, Mr. Fischer, if I could just uh take a few steps back. We know that water runoff and water issues and Bridgewater very near and dear to our hearts here on the day for most of our, you know, land use boards here in town. And if I could just could you
describe the present day condition of that lot, the proposed lot? >> Uh, okay. So, >> what it looks like today, what's there? >> Sure. I don't think we we've gone through that thoroughly enough. So, >> under existing conditions, the lot is wooded.
>> Okay. The lot runs off uh under those same >> You're you're referring to sheet nine, correct? >> Correct. >> Yes. Sheet nine of the the plan set uh is the existing drainage area map. So, this will kind of depict um the drainage patterns across the property and and
where they ultimately go um just downstream of our property. Um, as I noted previously, uh, a portion of the the time to eat diner, uh, runs off overland onto our property. It continues
to run overland across the property, uh, until some of it runs across lot three under existing conditions. Um, and then it it ultimately gets discharged uh or or collected into the catch basin in
front of our property on Cornell Boulevard. Um, there's a a a drainage divide line across the northerly kind of quarter of the property, if you will. um where runoff um
doesn't find its way into that catch basin but in turn uh runs off onto the the pavement area and then kind of runs down Arlene Drive. Um ultimately,
um the the the catch basins, uh in front of our property that are labeled POS number one on this map, um they run, it's not shown on this map, but I did a little bit of uh uh investigating those catch basins
down the property. system in Arleene Drive um which then in turn gets uh discharged onto uh property uh just south of the Peters Brook. >> Okay.
the existing lot, would you describe it as being populated by uh deciduous trees mostly? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um the types of trees that um you would find in there, but what types of trees are currently existing in there? I'm seeing them here, but I'm I'm
guessing I see oaks >> primar Yeah. Uh primarily shown uh that was that was done. Uh they're primarily maples, oaks, um >> evergreen trees, cedars, pines.
>> Does the land appear to be wet today? >> Not to my knowledge. No. >> Okay. Uh the types of tree the types of tree that they're in there now, uh would you say um are they types of trees that u are good for retaining water? Are they are they good at uh sucking up water out
of a >> out of a lot? >> I don't have that answer. >> Okay. You you mentioned that the lot today has no steep slopes that they're uh it's not a flood plane, no repairarian zones. Um and I'll use u our board engineer, Mr. Burr, here um just
to keep us honest. Uh but this does this area does not qualify for a major storm water plan. Correct. For a storm water plan like this this is not a major site. a storm water plan? >> Yes, it does. >> It does. >> Yes.
>> Okay. As such, if it does, would we need to know the types of soil? Is it a um would do we have soil samples? What's the percolation rate in the soil? Are these of particular concern in this situation? Because if we're talking about putting retention basin or catch basins, and I understand they need to be
maintained. At the end of the day, there still is water that needs to percolate. What's the percolation on this on this site at at the moment? the percolation was was not great based on the the limited soil testing that we did uh in December. Um
I I spoke with the the board's engineer um regarding additional soil testing that needs to be done. Uh but but effectively that was that was the reason why uh the site was designed with a bio retention basin with an under drain >> to to prevent any type of infiltration
into the ground and treat it, clean it and then um slowly let it out into the storm system that that it was previously connected to. >> Okay. So you're testifying that at this time most of the broad the the present
condition again we're just talking about pure an introduction here just so everybody understands before we get into a lot of the questions that we have about drainage and runoff and and roof leaders and all that today you would say that the storm the what the the runoff is typically from I guess from west to east generally >> yes that's a fair that's a fair
assessment >> okay and you can understand why a lot of the concerns are going to be based on the importance of grading in this site correct so we have to do essentially everything that's humanly possible in order to keep the grading as tight as possible to make sure that this water
does not infiltrate the properties above and below Cornell Boulevard. Do we know what Cornell Boulevard looks like in the middle of the winter as far as um water runoff? Does it ice over? Are we aware? >> I'm I'm not aware of that.
>> Does our board engineer is the township aware of anything that takes place at Cornell Boulevard? I'm I'm not aware of anything, but that's only based on if a resident or a concerned member of the public called in, you know, a concern or a complaint
to the engineering department, but I don't have a history of icing or drainage problems on this section of Cornell. >> Okay. So, from our zoning report, I see that the land is wet, but it's been a very precipitous winter obviously, right? So, it's tough to determine what the land
looks like during the middle of the summer or during dry season. Now, I invite any other questions regarding storm water drainage. I just wanted an overview for everybody to understand what this what it looks like today. >> I guess I for Mr. Burr. Mr. Sir, I know
that uh the applicant attorney referenced your report and I'm wondering if you could just take a few moments and review it and comment on what you have reported about your review of this storm water management plan for this property.
>> So, um to answer the the chairman's question, it it absolutely this project absolutely is a major development. um it it proposes or it meets the thresholds for the major development by way of the impervious coverage and uh land
disturbance. So a full drainage plan and storm water report was provided with the application. Uh we performed a thorough review uh of that report. We did have some comments in our uh engineering
report. What I would say uh is that the the design complies with the storm water requirements provided some of the comments that we made are addressed. So there's nothing
at this point based on our current review that would indicate that the project is is not compliant or could not comply with those rules. Uh one of the things that the applicants engineer did mention is the lack of soil testing. There were two soil tests I believe uh
performed previously. They need to do additional soil testing to confirm the functionality of what's being proposed. Uh if they can perform those tests, get passing perk, address some of the other technical comments, then um the the
application would comply with our ordinance. Yes. Thank you, Mus. >> So, um, and I just had a follow-up question to that. If there and any of these assumptions that are being made are the followup, um, data that will be
submitted on soil infil infiltration, the groundwater elevation, rail, rainfall intensity, or any other long-term maintenance that might be required. Um, like who's going to bear that responsibility? Will the township
be protected? How how is that set up right now? I know you mentioned annual reports. I really like that. We can ask for that. >> Yeah, the these are going to be private facilities, so they will absolutely have to be maintained by the applicant. But the only check and balance that we have
is by either sending personnel out in the field to inspect them or conversely requiring as a possible condition of approval. And as our ordinance dictates, that certification being provided by the applicant that they are in fact maintaining the facilities. If we get
that certification, um, of course, complaints work wonders if if we're being told that there's a problem, certainly we investigate that. But there's so many of these facilities, privately owned around the township, that we couldn't possibly proactively,
you know, inspect all of them on an annual basis. Um, but it's kind of a collaborative effort. We track them, but we need the applicant's help or the owner's help in certifying that it's being done. It is a requirement and ordinance that the township approved
requires certification and if they do not affirmatively report, there is a fine and a penalty that the township can impose upon the property owner. So, it's just not uh expecting them to comply. It's there's a there's a penalty that
we've created. One thing that I just want to just circle back to real quick. Uh >> yes, please. >> It asked about the the soil conditions. >> Yes. >> And the the soil the limited soil testing that we did do was done in December. >> It was done in the wet season. Um and
and did not experience any groundwater conditions in the test pits that were dug on on the property. So I think board's engineer can confirm this as well, but um the stormwater
management rules the BMP uh is chapter 12 for soil testing indicates that um the testing has to be done within the wet season or further evaluations to determine what the possible groundwater condition might
be if it's outside of the that period of time. We were within that period of time that it was December. So, >> can I ask where you test it? Like, did you test on the where the new lines of water runoff is going to go or did you test like where did you test the soil?
>> We tested uh where the two basins were proposed. >> Okay. Can we go back to that page nine? I think it was >> 10 >> 10 >> existing conditions or the proposed >> uh existing and then go to the proposed.
So the existing So you see the bottom dark dotted line. >> Mhm. >> Right. And then there's no line that cuts off into above what lot four and three between the your proposed property line and the two below it. But then if you go to the new proposed conditions,
so what? A whatever that other one was 10, there's that there's a big change in the water runoff which is now right near lot four and three when in reality it passed the other way. That that one's still there, but there's a new one. There's not a
plan for that. I I'm just to say as a condition for approval, I'll I'll require >> No, I know. I I I want to speak to page nine first. >> Okay. >> So you understand what you're seeing there. So that way when we look at page 10,
>> makes more sense. >> Um, >> the area that that runs off across this property to to a what's called a point of study on this plan, POS1, um, is approximately three acres of of land area, wooded, impervious grass, all
all included in that area. That that three acres runs off across that and it does it runs across currently across lot three. um and then discharges into that catch basin that is POS1.
That's under current conditions today. With what we're proposing, we're cutting off a good portion of that, nearly half of it of what's still going to run off across that property and drain into that
catch basin. Uh the area that's labeled PR1C, that's an undetained area. >> Where is that? >> Okay. Sorry. On page 10. >> See it? >> So So that's 1.7 acres of land as opposed to the 3.1 almost acres of land
that was running off across lot three under current conditions today. So we're reducing the amount of of land coverage that's running off across this property by the proposed development and the way it's been graded. um
to to capture and collect the runoff on our site and keep it on our I don't know if that helps the the question >> in in the area that you've marked designated as PR1C
are you doing what kind of work or grade changes are you doing within that area? only grade changes that would be occurring would be from the curb line down to existing grade adjacent to the property line. Um and then putting in landscape screen.
Is there going to be a lip where the where the um the pavement meets that line where the uh the lights are going to be >> or >> curb curb vertical curb >> and how high will >> half inch typical half inch height >> half >> and what about
>> half a foot my mistake >> okay I was like yes it's not really >> half a foot sorry >> okay and then that's where that's why you're saying it'll be directed to that that uh >> catch basin.
>> Catch basin. >> Yes. >> And then that'll lead into a larger basin. >> Yes. >> Nearby. >> And those larger basins help slow the water right off. >> Yes, that's correct. They they have a an area of of um
or an undetained volume area that that everything will run off to. It'll fill up to while it's draining through the the perforated pipe under drain system. And then there's an outlet structure um that
will slow the amount of of runoff and the flow rate to to it's discharged back into the system. >> Will that be connected to POS1? >> Yes. >> And have you have you tested um that the existing municipal pipeline can handle
that >> have you done? >> I've reduced I've reduced I the evaluation that I've done at POS1 uh shows that I'm reducing the the flow rate to that point from existing conditions. So under existing conditions
it's well it X under proposed conditions based on the storm water management rules I've reduced it by XUS to simplify that in any capacity but I'm not sending any more water there today
than than there was or tomorrow than there than there is today. And that's based on the storm water management uh quantity reduction requirements. And then just on that same note, so I I think the um storm, what is it 1A is 10
feet. Is there a reason why the um the second one that's in near PR2? I think it was 4 and a half ft. What was the what was the logic behind um making one 10 ft and the other one four and a half?
>> The depths you mean? >> Yeah. uh just the the volume required to to to attenuate the the flow reductions. >> Is that going to be connected to POSOS2? >> No, it'll be connected to to the outlet
structure for basin 1B is connect also connected to POSOS1. And again between the the the discharge from 1A and discharge from 1B because we're reducing the flows and
constricting how it's being let out. uh we're we're meeting our flow reductions at that point of study. >> But I guess based on the previous uh slide on on 10, is the grading coming from
more left to right or north kind of like in a uh southeast type direction? Because >> I'm just a little confused that you're going to be p pushing all that water to POS1 and it may not be able to handle. it will be able to handle because I'm
there's there's less water that's going to it under these conditions. I'm holding it back there. There'll be there'll be there'll be water that that's slowly being led out of each one of these basins so that way it doesn't searchcharge that system. >> Is there a reason why we couldn't put
second bas? >> POS2 is not a catch basin. It's it's a point of study in the pavement. >> Oh, that's not connected to the municipal. >> It it run it continues to run off
overland down Arleene Drive. >> That's what you Those were both connected to the municipal. Okay. >> Eventually it gets into the same system, >> right? >> Um but but I I I chose to to connect
into this catch basin which is POS1. >> And I'm just curious if you uh had the opportunity to talk to any of the the surrounding neighbors. I have not >> any issues with >> No, I have not. >> Yes.
>> Any other storm water questions? >> What are the catch basins? How are they fed? Are there drains around the property that collected and send it to the bio retention basins? >> So, so there are catch basins in the parking lot that that um they have an
open curb and a horizontal um bicycle safe grate where water will either run off through the grate horizontally or through the curve into that basin box and the piping
that's connected to it um discharges into the storm basins >> and the storm basins can slowly distribute the water where and how? Yes, they can. Uh there's there there's an outlet control structure for each one
of these basins that uh has a a small opening at the bottom and a a rectangular opening at the top. So, as it begins to fill up, uh the basin begins to fill up, water will will rise across the face of that outlet control structure. It'll slowly let itself out
of the the the lower it's called an orifice. Um, and then as it continues to run that that uh rectangular opening at the the top end of the outlet control structure and and it'll continue to discharge. >> So it works like the discharge on a
retention basin. >> That's exactly what these are. Yes. >> And do you put any special material in these bio retention basins? Are they level with the ground? Are they lower? Do you put special >> So each material there? Each one of
these basins are designed with a level bottom. Um, and they have uh 18 in that it's it's noted on the plans. Um, they have 18 in of a sandy lone material at the bottom and that's that's conducive of of of allowing it to to to
drain proper quickly and properly through it. Um, and then it begins to to to drain through a um a sand material that's about six inches thick. And then it gets down into a um to where the perforated pipe under drain is. Uh, and
that that has a um a crush stone, clean crushed stone um wrapping around the uh the piping and and the the runoff as it absorbs through these layers gets into the um the
perforated pipe and then gets discharged out through the outlet structure. >> So, I'm not clear yet. The are they level with the surrounding area or are they lower? >> They're lower. I'm sorry. I didn't I I misunderstood your question. They're
lower. Um the the basin is designed to to be effectively a hole in the ground, right? So So as as it it has the ability to fill up and not over time to the to the areas around it. So it'll contain.
>> So these are 100ear storm type basins. >> Yes. >> With the the the latest regulations. Um, >> thank you, >> Mr. McGor. >> Okay. Uh, I notice on sheet six,
by my count, you have about 63 oak trees you're taking down. Many of them are over aundred years old, and some of them may be up to 170 years old. Many are located along the perimeter of
the property. What is the rationale for taking out those trees along the perimeter? These old old trees. >> Uh they they conflicted with the the limited disturbance and and as was anticipated that they would either
be damaged or or um or or harmed through the construction process. I don't accept that. I think you'd have to provide some protection for these old trees. I can understand some of them are going
to die because of a construction shock, but you've got a 24 inch or greater tree that's not going to be easily replaceable in anybody's lifetime here. Well, what I would say is that we we
could definitely re-evaluate the the limits of disturbance and try to tighten it up a little bit um and and try to avoid some of these additional uh trees, damage to some of these additional trees if that's that's something that the board is looking at. >> Yes. >> And secondly, you're proposing 33
replacement trees instead of the 39 required. Um again it it was it was based on the available space uh that we had to us to to provide those replacement trees. Um
we could probably provide additional trees. It it may come at the expense of of overcrowding and not having as much lawn space. I know that that was a topic that was brought up at the last not having the lawn space for for some of these residents.
>> Okay. As far as project execution, what's your plans to uh go in there, strip it down to bare earth? >> Uh the land disturbance will be in accordance with the the soil erosion standards uh which is generally um
installing the the silt fence. Um providing the temporary stabilized construction entrance um and then and then yes stripping top soil. Uh, I guess it would it would be um cutting down the the the trees and then stripping the top
soil and then uh beginning >> granted there's a lot of trash trees and shrubs there. >> There are a lot of trash trees and shrubs. I can see where taking them out would be required. But I'm just envisioning
how many acres here of brown soil for a year? 10 months. Um >> just an observation right now. Maybe it doesn't really require a comment. And secondly, from a project execution
plan, you're going to have two buildings and you're seeking to divide that property into two lots. Okay. I would assume that would be easier to handle construction accounting costs.
This building we can definitely say it costs this much and that building costs that much or we're going to have one big lump sum of uh uh material and labor and divide it by an engineer's estimate.
>> Yeah, that would be a a question for um Mr. Bernie. Okay, that's all I have right now. >> Any other final questions for now regarding drainage? >> Drainage. >> He's just on drainage. >> Okay, >> last question on drainage,
>> please. >> Okay, >> for now Where exactly is the puddling that you're referring to? On the site or or in the pavement in on 2026? the intersection of the where you had
the Y for 202 and 22. It's just um in front of the car was placed >> in the roadway. >> Yes. >> So the that the the the roadway is not uh out part of our our our scope of >> No, no. I know that very well. I'm
asking you is there any um you're anticipating any water going towards the 202? >> No, we're not. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Chowry. >> We'll go with Mr. Papas here. I know he had a couple pressing ones. We'll change
topics. >> I have questions about parking. Um the the property uh the portion of the property that has the pavement from the diner infringing on this um the photograph aerial photograph has parking
cars parked along the line. I've personally seen cars parked in tandem at that location where there are cars parked one in front of another extending beyond that line.
um as as is depicted on that photograph. So um I think again if this is approved there should be condition that there would be no parking permitted in that
area of the lot because it it occurs. I've seen it myself. That's just a comment. >> Well, do you have any objection to that? >> I have no objection. If if you know the neighboring property is trespassing, we can send a cease and desist letter. um
park parking for disabled. Uh it was referenced that there's I think one uh space for each building. >> Yes, >> that's the minimum amount. Um the um the number of parking spaces I
think I heard 22 spaces. Is that for the larger of the two buildings? >> That's correct. And >> how many for the other the smaller building? >> Nine. >> Nine. Okay. And what's the number of parking spaces required under this ordinance for this property and the size of the structures
>> overall or >> so again this is based on the RSIS uh RSIS is how we design the parking um the 22 spaces that we provide for the um larger of the two lot 203 um that's
what's required based on the RSIs and that's what we've provided for the 4unit veterans building uh eight spaces are what's required and we're providing nine. >> So you're providing a total of 31 and 30 are required. >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh I personally think only two
parking for people with disabilities is whollfully inadequate. If the structure is for disabled veterans, it's very likely that um perhaps each inhabitant may have that um designation to park in
a parking space designated for handicapped. And uh I personally think that's inadequate. So it's a comment and I would look for there to be some change to that >> and >> it's just a comment and asking you to consider that in your plan and make a revision.
>> Mike, can we have space along the veterans unit to provide an additional handicap space? Correct. >> I can easily provide at at a minimum one more to provide two. >> Are the are is it anticipated that parking spaces are going to be designated for each tenant each each uh
unit? Uh, I believe the um the operator testified that they do have um designated parking. >> Okay. So, yeah, look at that. I'd like to hear back maybe. Yeah, we're probably not going to finish this case tonight. I'd like you to report back to us as to
what that would look like and how the my personal I see some nodding heads over here about the additional handicap designated parking would be would be dealt with as it pertains to the assigning of spaces to. We could certainly um look into adding that
additional space and perhaps provide a provision in any uh potential resolution of approval that would allow us to add additional handicap spaces if occupants required it without coming back for further site plan. >> Okay. Um I think at the moment that's
all parking questions I had. I do have other >> roadway related questions. Do you want me to jump into that now or parking question? parking maybe first. >> Um I just wanted to know do you with all of the recent snow that we've had, have you guys looked into exactly where the
snow will be parked when you're plowing in the parking lot? >> Uh ideally the the areas um around the the trash enclosure to to the sides of the trash enclosures is is is
where we are considering to be um the primary designated locations. So it won't take up any other spots. >> No related ones. >> Regarding the trash enclosure um in on the veterans space that's right near the
handicap spot. When I look at the the the plans seem a little bit different for the uh waste management truck versus the what it shows because the trash enclosure on this this one
that's showing on the screen looks very close to that parking spot whereas the other one looks a little bit further over. Is there any overlap in that garbage truck pickup? Should we look by the veterans home?
>> Yeah. Not sure I understand what you're referring to. I mean, >> how are how is the how is the uh garbage pickup truck going to >> pick that up if cars are parked? >> Yeah, if cars are parked.
>> Well, again, this this is there's two different as as I noted, there's two different exhibits here. There's a front facing where where the trash um refuge truck would pick it up from the front and lift it and drop it
or in the second exhibit um the vehicle would would navigate to the back of the development first, pick up the trash there first because they would have to back into location. Then they would pull away to
the front area where to it in the same manner, pick it up and then dump it in. >> So I think the question is if there are cars parked in those spaces adjacent, they would essentially be blocked during the trash removal process. >> What if a car is already there?
>> If a if a car is there, Mike, would would would vehicles being parked obscure? >> No, not at all. This is this is exclusive of the parking spaces. >> And with the doors that cover the trash enclosure, right, that are supposed to be opened and closed right before
pickup. Will those doors impede on the parking spots or is it set back further? >> Wouldn't occupy? Yeah, I'm looking I mean it it's it can be eval further evaluated and and if it's found that it might be um
potential hazard to a vehicle, you can make an adjustment to to the location of it. No friction to that. >> Yeah, I I would propose moving it back. I didn't understand that the doors don't hit into the >> into the parked spaces.
um site circulation for a fire truck. Yes. Right. I am really concerned on the access point coming into the from Cornell Boulevard going into the site on the the site circ circulation plan that
you have with the fire truck. It seems to go over into a structure wall something on Cornell Boulevard. If you look at what's this A one >> A >> so so I'll I'll better uh explain what's
shown on there. Those dashed lines that you see that's that's an overswing of the body of the truck. It's not the actual wheel >> footprint. Um so you're seeing solid lines and and dashed lines. The dash lines are the overswing of the body. That's a
>> so that the truck itself would overswing above the curb line wouldn't impact the curb line itself. >> Everyone's saying in the overswing if you look at what's the other one a2 there's something on that side of Cornell Boulevard where they start to
overswing that I don't know what that structure is. Have we confirmed that that that the fire truck would not hit that in a >> we look at A2? >> A3. >> Correct. >> Nope. >> Yes.
>> Oh, okay. >> You see on Cornell Boulevard where the fire truck is going to start turning per your other sheet that you were just on. >> You talking about materials? Um >> Yeah. I don't know what that is. >> Where Cornell Boulevard is? Mhm. >> Okay. So, so, so this is this is a um an
aerial photograph of of of u I guess site work that was being done at the time. So, material stockpiling um as recent as this weekend when I was there that that is not there. So, >> got it. >> That's what that is.
>> Yes, that's that is and it is your testimony. Will the fire truck have to go onto the grass into the other part the the neighbor the across the street neighbor's lot? no >> to turn into that. Okay. Um >> in I have other questions but not
related to parking. >> Just related to follow up to that. Um the the right of way is how wide >> for Cornell Boulevard 100 ft. >> Okay. So in let's say that exhibit that
you have there. Where is the right ofway line in relation to the edge of pavement? >> Which exhibit are we referring to? >> One that's on the screen. >> Okay. Um what's the uh so the the fuchsia color
is the municipal boundary. >> That's correct. >> And what's the dotted line? The dotted line >> white dotted line. >> Yeah. >> Those are those are that's the rightway line. >> Okay. So the how many feet would you say it is from that edge of pavement to the
dotted line which is the end edge of the rightway? Uh, it varies, I would say. So, so if I was looking at the northernmost corner of the property, it would probably >> the point I guess um
yeah, just um near the proposed driveway entrance distance from the >> Yeah, just go ahead >> edge of pavement to the right of way. approximately >> without a scale.
>> So, uh would there be a need to widen or change the configuration of that entrance to prevent any you know traversing of vehicles over the lawn area? I don't have any reason to believe that
there will be vehicles that will be traversing over the water. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Had a couple questions down here. >> I'm good, >> Mr. Wang. >> Yeah, if I may. Um, yeah, regarding the
parking um numbers. Um I just wondering the the southwest triangle part that what that going to be there there's not landscape there's a big triangle area. >> Uh that's that's going to remain
undisturbed. We're not we're not proposing anything there. But I I have a concern about this many families. If they have a party, if they have, you know, guest those those tra those cars going to be
parked on the uh Cornell Baltimore. So there should be more more parking space created and also you know that that's what my concern. >> I I I understand your concern. uh
parking is is only going to be proposed within the areas delineated. Anything above that I believe the property owner test >> yeah there there would be no access to park there from from the site in that undeveloped portion. So that
that wouldn't be feasible for visitors. uh access to where >> you you're referring to the >> the southwest. No, not the if you if you see the sauce fast to the to the diner. Yeah, that part. >> This
this part. >> Yeah. Yeah. This part, right? >> There's no access there. So, you wouldn't get um visitors or residents, you know, illegally parking there as overflow. But I is that possible you know we can
create access to that part. >> So expand the parking area. >> Right. Right. >> There's I I don't see that there's enough room to provide adequate parking and then adequate turning movements. But I I the
site is the site is adequately parked based on RSI's requirements now. And and that accounts for potential visitor spaces as well. Correct. >> And is that possible to um also make the what's that line the the current the the
the eway parking lot make the other side the opposite line towards to the lot three uh property line. make make, you know, some some parking space along that line.
>> No, there's not enough room to put parking and and then it would come at the expense of parking um right up to the property line adjacent to lot three >> close to that property. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Wang.
>> Do you know if parking is permitted on the main road right soon as you get out of development, >> Cornell Boulevard? >> Yeah, >> it was my understanding it was. It's not posted. Uh the size of the roadway is uh is a 30- foot wide roadway um curb to
curb um which which based on the RSIS requirements indicates that that you could have two lanes of of parallel parking on either side. >> So that you think it's there's legal parking there. >> It's not posted. I didn't see it posted anywhere. I'm just thinking that
roughly, you know, 30 units, uh, you know, two parking spaces per unit. Come the holidays, it's going to get a little tight for parking. >> Uh, well, >> it's 15 units, not 30.
>> What's that? >> It's 15 units. >> 15 units. And you have 32 parking spaces, two per unit. I'm just thinking that at the holidays it could get a little crazy. That's all the thought.
>> Any other questions regarding parking? >> The other spots uh so supposed to be registered by the tenants or is it just free free flow? >> I think there like a visitor pass that they have to acquire for the license plate. >> I don't believe there's a visitor pass.
I think they're just open. That's my recollection of the um operator's testimony that there are designated spots for each unit and then um the remainder is open for uh visitors.
>> They should. >> And then regarding the uh the EV ready um those will be strictly for EV vehicles. >> That's correct. That's that's the intention for them.
What what if there's no tenant with an EV vehicle, EV E electric car? >> That that's part of the rationale of not immediately installing the uh make ready spaces so that we can kind of see what the um usage and need actually is at the
time of uh lease up. And then just along the um uh I guess it would be the the south south side. Is it gonna are you going to have like no parking along the um I guess like entering in that there's the
the curb there and then also where those lights are >> like at the driveway entrance >> that that's that's the we'd totally be open to striping that and indicating that it's like a a fire lane no parking kind of deal. Yeah. That there's no no objection to that.
Uh one more last question on the parking. Generally in the 11 apartments, you know, whether it's one bedroom or two bedrooms uh or three, even if you have a small child birthday party, you'll have a 10 cars. Uh how we going to accommodate or serve
the tenants? Uh you cannot park in the cornell. You cannot park inside anywhere else. You cannot park in the grass. So, are you going to tell all the tenants that you cannot have any children's part birthday party or something? >> Essentially, that was what was testified
to last time by the the uh the applicant. He did indicate that they would be policing the the parking spaces and um that that um there wouldn't be an allowance for additional parking. >> Oh, no. That is nice to hear, but you
know, it doesn't solve the problem. you know you have 11 um apartments here and even the disabled veterans they may have a small children also. So >> I understand that and unfortunately all I can do is is say that that we
provide parking that that meets the requirement. I don't have the ability to police it myself. I I know that's probably not the best answer but >> well it's not not only best answer it's not a human answer also because people do have part some small at least the
birthday parties were small so I can understand some you know other things but at least >> you would argue these spaces are like that these places that they're going to live aren't big enough to host a a birthday party >> right that >> just in in as Mr. Brun testified to in
his experience managing these similar projects, you know, these disabled veterans homes. He does have an 11 unit project, >> but what date? Yes. Yes. What what dates um are available? >> The next meeting is
March 17th. Uh we have a major subdivision scheduled for that evening. The next meeting after that is April 7th and we have >> the March 17th. You have room on the schedule.
>> So we could carry this to the 17th. >> We could carry this to 317. Wouldn't be exclusive. There's another matter scheduled. >> Does that work for you? >> Available? I'm available. >> Yeah, that works for us.
behind me listening to the testimony this evening. I already have two matters scheduled for March 17th. The April date that was just announced, April 7th. I am available on that date. >> There there, just so you're aware, there
are two applications on March 7th, another affordable housing. I'm sorry, April 7th. Okay. There is a this the continuation of the wine outlet sign as well as the Whitney court affordable housing um which has not started yet. So there are two other matters on April 7th. So the next available fully
available date would be April 21st. >> I I would request that we carry this on the 17th and if Mr. Simon needs to bring sound an associate he can do that. The board needs to you know if we can continue to hear this application we should. I I would respectfully uh ask
that since I've been uh seated here taking copious notes not for one but for two hearings already and already participated. I think it is a burden on my clients as uh residential homeowners to have to bring a colleague of my
office up to speed on an application to have him prepare for something or her prepare for something uh that I have uh witnessed and don't need to spend the money to prepare for the next hearing. I don't think that that's fair to the public. Um whether you live in Bridgewater or whether you live in
Somerville. >> By the way, I just heard somebody mention about special meetings. Certainly in the interest of uh going forward with this application, uh Lisa on behalf of my clients would not be adverse at all to uh scheduling of a special meeting subject to the
availability uh based on my schedule. Unfortunately, uh, a you said April 15th, right? >> Oh, that no. >> What? >> It was March March 17th. >> March 17th. >> March 17th. That that provides the best opportunity to carry this and hear this
with adequate time. >> Is my wife has a medical procedure. I will not be available that night and I do not have any associates. >> Miss Propes, between March 17th and the date after that, are there any openings for a special meeting? Because at this time I'd really like to provide for
adequate time in order to hear this. >> March 31st. >> March 31st. >> Available. You available March 31st. >> Oh, good. We got it. >> Can we do a quick quorum check from the
board and the board professionals, please? >> I will not be available. >> Let's start. Let's start from back here. >> Question. The question is a quorum availability for March 31st. >> 31st the first.
>> Can I just call the names out just go >> please? >> Chairman Vesio. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bonjouro. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Isla? >> No. I'll be out of state. >> Mr. Papis? >> Yes.
>> Mr. Mora? >> Yes. >> Mr. Wang? >> Yes. >> Miss Sakura? >> No. I'll be out of state. >> Mr. Bangga, >> maybe. >> Mr. Chawitch, >> no. >> Mr. Chowdery,
>> yes. >> One, two, three, four, five. >> Six yeses. >> Mr. At Mr. Atkins forum. We just need to have people listen to the tape. March 31st
spring break with my kids. >> I'll watch it. >> Okay. Let it be known that it be carried to March 31st without further notice. Correct, Mr. >> Yes. March 31st. No further notice will be given. This is the only notice uh
that will be provided. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> There are no other questions or comments. A motion for adjournment. >> I'll make a motion. >> I'll second. >> And that's Mr. Cora. All in favor?
>> I. >> Thank you everybody. Have a good night. >> Okay. Thank you.