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>> Miss Propes, could I have a roll call, please? >> Chairman Vesio >> here. >> Mr. Bonjouro >> here. Councilwoman Isla will be late. >> Mr. Papis >> here. >> Mr. Mcora
>> here. >> Mr. Wang. >> Sorry, Mr. Wang will be absent. >> Sakura >> here. >> Mr. Banga >> here. >> Miss Chardawitch >> here. >> Mr. Chowdery.
>> Mr. Peek >> here. >> Mr. Burr, board engineer >> here. M >> here forum. You can proceed. >> Thank you, Miss Prost. At this time, I'd like to welcome any members of the public wishing to address the board on any matter that's not listed on
tonight's agenda. Any general matter not listed on the agenda. Please, please feel free to come forward at this time. Speaking not moving along. We do have a set of meetings this evening to up for approval here and that would be the first one is September 30th 2025.
Any comments changed to the record by board members? >> Um I have I have a question >> Mr. Bruno. >> Yes. Under the Kathy Franco on the first page it refers to 2020. Is that the
correct date? That's a question. since 2020. >> That could first page minutes under Kathy Franco stress concern about minutes from 2020. >> Yes, >> that's the correct date. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Miss Pro. Thank you, Mr. Bjouro. Any other questions? I'll take a motion for approval of these minutes. >> I'll make that motion. >> That's Miss Sakura. Could I have a second, please? That's Mr. Chadri, could I have a roll call, please?
>> Yes. >> Mr. Papis, >> yes. >> Mr. Maggora, >> yes. >> Miss Sakura, >> yes. >> And Mr. Chowy. >> Okay. The set of meeting minutes from October 7th, 2025. Any questions, comments? Change to the
record. >> Mr. Chairman. >> Yes. >> First page. Meeting open to the public. Um, with there being no public comic, the public and the sentence ends. >> I don't believe there are any comments
in further to that because there were no comments. >> Okay. >> Any other questions? >> Move approval. >> Mr. Papas, could I have a roll? Could I have a second, please? I'll >> second. >> That's Mr. A. Roll call, please.
>> Vasio. >> Yes. Mr. Papis, >> yes. >> Mr. McGora, >> yes. >> Mr. I'm sorry, Miss Sakura. >> Yes. >> Charlie, >> yes. >> And Mr. Chowdery, >> next on this evening's agenda, there is
an executive session. It's for a potential settlement agreement for SOML006025. Board attorney, Mr. Pek, would you like to uh give the crowd a bit of an understanding of what this takes place? How this is going to take place? This is uh well this relates to a potential settlement agreement litigation uh that
involve the township and the planning board. Um so we'll we'll adjourn um to discuss whether or not the board will endorse the settlement agreement and uh could take action when we return whether or not to approve the proposed
settlement. >> Very good. >> Just need a motion to go into executive session. >> I'll take that motion. >> I'll make the motion. Second. >> That's Mr. That's Mr. Corey. Second, Mr. Papus. Could I have a roll call, please? >> Chairman Basio.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Vanjouro. >> Yes. >> Mr. Papis. >> Yes. >> Mr. Maggora. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sakora. >> Yes. >> Mr. Banga. >> Yes. >> M. Chardich. >> Yes. >> Mr. Chowdery. >> Yes. >> We will reconvene here after the
executive session. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Well, as we resume the public session, the board was in executive session to discuss a proposed settlement agreement uh to the litigation brought
by Somerset Corporate Center against the township uh and in particular the the planning board. our aspect. So, uh, it was discussed and I believe we'll need a motion to authorize, uh, the chairman and Miss Pros to execute the settlement agreement on behalf of the planning
board. >> I'll make a motion. >> That's Miss Sakura. It's Mr. Chowry. Second, Miss Probes, could I have a roll call, please? >> Yes. >> Yes. She missed the briefing.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you, Miss Pro. Moving along to our application portion for the evening. Just to make a quick announcement, application number 2512PB, the Wine
Outlet, Bridgewater LLC, will not be heard this evening. So, if you're there, if you're here this evening for the Wine Outlet, that uh is scheduled uh for continuence. Uh but we do not have a date at this time. But we do have this evening here, Wheatsworth Properties Urban Renewal
LLC. That's block 406, lot 2011, commonly known as Cornell Boulevard and US Highway Routes 2026 for a minor subdivision. And who is here to represent the applicant this evening? >> Good evening. My name is Jason Heman from the law firm of Christ
on behalf of the applicant. >> Mr. Chair, we have a mic. >> We can't hear him. >> Is the microphone on, Mr. >> Can you Is that better? >> Perfect. >> Uh Jason Heenman from the law firm of PriceMe Showman Dr. Armeno on behalf of the applicant Wheatsworth Properties
Urban Renewal LLC. Um, can I, uh, start my introduction or is there any housekeeping that you would like? >> Please do. >> Thank you very much. So, uh, as indicated, this is a minor subdivision application with preliminary and fi
final site plan approval for the property located at block 406, lot 2011. Uh the purpose of the subdivision is to split the lot to develop each lot in accordance with the township's fourth round housing element and fair share plan which calls for the development of
one 4unit building and one 11 unit building. Both buildings will be 100% affordable to low and moderate income um families. Uh, this proposed development, as I said, is part of the housing
element and fair share plan that was um approved by the Somerset County Mount Laurel judge earlier this year. Um, the subject property is currently unimproved. Uh, the land covers primarily uh wooded area with a small
portion of lawn area adjacent to lot two. Um the development for the proposed subdivided lot 2.02 will consist of the 4unit uh apartment uh building and that building will be designated for uh heads
of households who are uh disabled military veterans along with their families. Uh those units will be um income restricted to very lowincome households. >> Excuse me, I have a question. May I
>> um will there be an elevator in that building for these disabled people? >> We'll get into that with the uh engineering and architectural, but uh this is just a a twostory uh development, so it is not required for elevator access, but we'll get into the
type of occupants and uh what ADA comp uh accommodations are available. >> Thank you. >> Uh the second lot, proposed lot 2.03 03 will consist of an 11 unit apartment building that will be designated for
moderate and low-income residences. Uh that those will be family units. There will be no type of eligibility restriction other than income level. Um in addition to the development of those buildings, there'll be associated
parking uh as well as storm water management facilities uh in the form of two smallcale bio retention basins. So, not only is this subdivision and development contemplated uh specifically within the township's housing element, it conforms with the applicable use and
bulk standards of the AH3 affordable housing zone that this site is located within. Uh there are two design waiverss uh being requested related to landscaping and tree plantings. And I believe there's a a technical waiver uh
related to the shared driveway. Uh there are also comments about storm water management that we'll address uh through our engineering testimony and consultation with the burough engineer. Otherwise, this is a variancefree as of right application. In support of this
application, you'll hear from uh the applicant and operator's representative, Mr. Luchiano Brun. You'll hear engineering testimony from Michael Fiser of Dystro Walker Engineering and Design. And you'll hear architectural testimony from Mr. Yogish mystery of mystery
design arguments. Um, that being said, uh, if there are no other questions or procedural issues, I would like to call my first witness, Mr. Luchiano Brutin. >> Mr. Hman, thank you very much for the introduction. If you can, for the sake of time, could we swear uh potentially all your witnesses?
>> Absolutely. You just want to affirm that the testimony you'll give in connection with this hearing will be the truth and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, I do. >> Starting with the applicant and then moving uh to Mr. Fiser. Can you state and spell your last name for the record?
Luchiano Brunie. B R U N I. >> Yogish mystery. M I S T R Y. >> Hey, thank you. You can hold on. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. >> Mr. Brunie, can you give the board the benefit of your background and
experience as a uh and and your connection with the applicant uh Whitesworth Property? >> Um I'm the uh owner of Weedssworth Properties. Um we're developers that develop properties throughout New Jersey. Uh specifically, uh affordable
housing projects. uh we've you know developed in many counties and towns throughout New Jersey and we currently have projects um similar to this one. >> So obviously you're quite familiar with the plans. You uh were involved in the design and um the design process with
the professionals. Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. Um so can you tell me about this project generally as well as um whether you've developed other similar projects? So, the project consists of two buildings. One, a four-unit building
for disabled veterans and their families. Uh, the other building is an 11-unit um mixed income project for low and moderate income uh residents. >> Uh we've built, you know, the 11-unit model uh in several towns and we've
built the 4-unit model for the disabled veterans and other towns throughout New Jersey. Um can you talk a little bit about the uh state funding mechanisms that uh you've obtained for this project and in general the state oversight uh that's
provided for these types of affordable projects? >> So we've for the 11 unit project we're awarded uh the affordable housing trust fund grant uh for the project. um the four-unit project we will um apply to what they call national housing
trust fund which is for disabled veterans and the um we'll be going after other funding sources for the projects such as federal home loan bank and we've also been awarded um I apologize we haven't been awarded yet but we've also go after county home funds for the
projects and >> that's very similar to the funding mechanisms you've obtained for other projects in the and have successfully developed. Correct. >> That's correct. >> And having successfully developed uh numerous similar project types as what's
being proposed here, you're familiar with um the use, the circulation, the parking uh that in practice these projects generate. Correct? >> Yes, that's correct.
uh with respect to the 4unit um veterans housing, can you just uh walk me through that program uh specifically with respect to uh the application process for residents. So
the the four-year project for disabled veterans, we team up with various stakeholders that are involved with, you know, veterans and their families and those stakeholders uh which is NJS who has vets and Catholic Charities, we work
with them and when we go and you know develop a project of this magnitude and size, we will work with these stakeholders and the idea is that when these residents move in. They move in with the apartments fully furnished,
fully stocked with kitchen accessories and bath accessories, uh, food and things of that nature that allows that veteran to just, you know, walk in and just live the live within the units and live a life of dignity that they
deserve. So that's what we set up for them and allow them to be able to have that type of lifestyle. >> And in terms of the qualifications for uh disabled veteran status, can you talk about that? What what type of um occupants
um are proposed to live in this facility and are living in similar facilities that you run? So, the occupants that live there have to be disabled and they have to be you know veterans that have been uh you know discharged honorably
and um sometimes you know they're they need a you know a good living condition for their families. So, um, we're able to go after a pool of sources such as Catholic Charities, you know, Soldieron,
um, NJS Vets, um, Community Hope, and various other agencies that deal a lot with veterans and their families. So, we'll work with them, and once we get applicants, we screen them uh, along with the state.
They will screen them as well to make sure that they qualify for the program. meaning a disabled, you know, veteran and that they meet all the qualifications for that program. >> And in terms of qualifications as a disabled veteran, um that's not limited
to just ambulatory disabilities. Correct. >> Correct. Could be non-ambulatory. Uh they can range from, you know, hearing loss to vision loss to, you know, prosthetic arm to PTSD, you know, things of that nature.
Thank you. >> Um, now with respect to the 11 unit building, can you tell me a little bit about that development? >> So, that development will be again a mixed income of uh residents from low to moderate income. And normally what
happens with that type of project again we've we've been able to secure the funding for uh that project as well but we will um obtain you know applications from a pool that has to go out to um you
know all of New Jersey specifically Somerset County and we work with HMFA Housing Mortgage Finance Agency and their HOS unit to be able to um screen applicants put a lottery uh create a lottery for applicants and be able to
choose from that lottery with the state. Um basically they will also screen applicants and ensure that the right income level is living in the units. >> Thank you. Um
now shifting towards you know operations management uh related issues. Um can you tell me in general about the operations of the site, how you handle that? >> So we have uh an individual that's dedicated to go to the sites. Um that
individual goes like once a week and they do their inspection. They create reports and they come back and you know make sure that there's no issues with the building whether you know lights are out or you know garbage is overflowing or things of that nature. Just make sure
that things are being maintained properly. uh as well as gutters. And you know, we'll sometimes, you know, have a drone fly over the rooftop just to make sure that there's nothing that we're missing because we can't see it. Make sure there's no roofing material that's
missing, gutters are clogged, and things of that nature. >> You have um in-house property management? >> Yes. >> So, you fully intend to not just develop, but manage these projects going forward for the life life of the the project. >> Correct.
Um, so there is no need for on-site um superintendent unit. Correct. >> Correct. >> And um residents have a direct line of communication with this management company.
>> Yes. So what we do is we set up a uh a system a portal system and on that system they can put in work orders saying that you know uh I have an issue with my unit you know HVAC unit as an example. it's not heating up. And we take that work order and we um call out
our HVAC contractor who's we have service contract with. They go out and they take a look and make sure that everything's working. >> And um landscaping, trash collection, snow removal, how's that handled? >> That's all third party. will will hire
you know rubbish company uh landscape company snow removal company cleaning company as well to maintain the property. Okay. >> Um for the development of this size um what do you contemplate in uh in terms of uh
frequency of trash removal? Well, we have other projects like this and we do once a week because the dumpsters we put in are like three yard containers. So, they're large enough to handle once a week. But if we see that it's not keeping up with the project, then we'll,
you know, increase that velocity or volume of trash pickup. >> But in practice on your other developments, you've found that trash collection once a week is typically adequate. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Um, how do you handle deliveries on on
the site? Um the the site that we have contemplated right now is basically overparked in a sense that we are above the standards or the RSIS standards and uh if we have to allow for um you know
the deliveries of you know for residents uh we could probably dedicate a spot for loading and unloading >> but typically there are open spaces for parking that include deliveries. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um talk to me about uh how you manage parking arrangement with your
tenants. >> So what we do in the 11 unit building um we have assigned spaces and each unit gets an assigned space and then the larger units like the threebedroom will get two spaces. Um so and then the rest
is for their um you know for their guests and overflow parking. >> Yes. Correct. Um and in terms of uh package delivery, there are spaces dedicated inside for that. >> Yes, there is. Inside the 11 unit and
the 4unit, there's a spot in the lobby where we have dedicated as uh an area where packages can go into. >> Um can you talk to me a little bit about uh moving procedures and how your company handles that with um new tenants? So, if a tenant moves in, we
request uh a time frame in which they're going to move in and we give them uh you know a time frame in which they have to move in by. And the reason why we do that is because we have people on site making sure that nothing goes wrong. And then when they move out, it's the same process. They have they tell us when they're moving out and we have someone
on site also making sure nothing goes wrong. >> Okay. Um that's all the questions I had for Mr. Brun with respect to um operations and management. I'll open him up to questions from the board and board professionals. >> Thank you, Mr. Brunie, for your
testimony. >> Anybody from our board have any questions for Mr. Brun? >> I I do. Mr. Cob, uh Mr. Brun, you mentioned uh application process for the uh I think it was the 11 unit uh building. Um, I don't know if you know
this, but Bridgewater Township has a designated administrative agent that we require every affordable uh housing project has to utilize their services to do any vetting of tenants. >> Yes, we're we're familiar with that
fact. Um, in our other projects, we used, like I said, HMFA HOS, which is the same setup. They do the same thing as you know, your your consultant would do. Um, so that's what we that's how we normally have handled it in the past.
>> But do you understand we have an administrative agent that's you would be required to utilize that consultant? >> If the if that's what the township requires us to do, we'll we'll work with the township. The other question I have is that there have been uh questions
raised uh from the general public about uh the residents and um could you just describe in other projects that you have uh or potential residents um nature of um
the um have there been any issues that you've had in other sites with um the tenant and any interaction with neighbors. >> Um, we've had very low issues. Well, we
had one time, uh, you know, an issue at a project of ours which is a which was one of the military veterans. Um, but that was handled pretty quickly and swiftly and we dealt with it. um in sense of our 11 unit projects, you know,
everybody is going to be living together and you always have to be kind of a, you know, the referee and you have to work things out and we're very much on top of our tenants to make sure that it doesn't
get out of hand. Um, and the one thing that at least with our tenants, I always say if there's ever an issue, don't ever be afraid to contact us and tell us. I'd rather know ahead of time. I'm not going to be that type of landlord where I'm just not going to be hands-on. We we're
as hands-on as possible. And we always want to make sure that our tenants are living, you know, a good, you know, quiet and peaceful life while they're there. And and you do have as part of your lease agreement uh rules and
regulations for the uh for the housing um the housing developments that tenants must comply with. >> Yes. We we normally when we have the leases signed, we have a spot where they have rules and regulations and they have to sign rules and regulations, no smoking,
um you know, storage and things of that nature that we prohibit and they have to sign and if they don't comply with the lease, then we don't renew them or they could be evicted for it. And in your experience on other projects, have you encountered, you know, any significant
issues like with furniture or debris being left behind, you know, loitering, littering, those types of issues on the site? >> No, we haven't had that issue uh on any of our sites. No. >> Guess just one other final question. Uh
your attorney mentions it. Again, I've heard members of the public express concern about residents of projects such as this wandering the neighborhood. Um, and have you had any experience with that in other communities? >> We haven't had any of our residents wandering the neighborhood. No, we
haven't. Not that I'm aware of that was brought to my attention. No. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Mr. Brun, you mentioned the parking situation that was essentially it was assigned. Is that assigned directly to a tenant or is there a certain limit for family members? Uh
>> it's assigned to the tenant. >> To the tenant. Okay. And if there are multiple individuals that live with that tenant. >> It's again if the tenant let's say use a you know an example if it's a two-bedroom unit and there's a child and
a husband and and a wife they'll get one parking spot and then the other one will have the overflow spot. Thank you. Uh you mentioned the um in the four units that they essentially are uh fully furnished and you mentioned the type of tenant uh that uh you'd expect
ambulatory, non-prothetic, PTSD, there I'm assuming they're all upfront handicap accessible. Um are they are the amenities provided up front for each type of tenant or are they essentially installed depending on the type of tenant that uh takes the housing? So,
the first floor units are handicap accessible. Uh, and that's a a nature of the code and all the cabinetry and the apartment itself is set up for that. Uh, as well as we put blocking in the wall
in case they need, you know, grab bars. Not everybody needs that, >> but because it's a type A unit, it's adaptable. So, you have to at a minimum put blocking in the wall for those accessories. Thank you. That's all I have for now.
>> Mr. Chowry. >> Yes. Very good introductions. Um, so I have only a few question on clarifications. U this is a hypothetical questions. If the if we if you have a more uh disabled veteran applications,
do we have a process or ways to assign if he or she wants to pay the money uh within the 11 unit apartment >> to accommodate the veterans and other uh 11 unit 2 uh 2.02 lot.
>> So So the disabled veteran unit, it's a it's a first come first serve. There's no lottery. Okay, the 11 unit, there's a lottery. So, unless that person applies in that lottery, that's the only way I I can accept them, but then they'll be put
on a waiting list. That's how it would work. >> Okay. At least there is some consideration there. That's what you were saying. Okay. Uh then on obviously you're going to have a parking space based on the tenants. Um I
understand that you'll have a one for example twobedroom threebedroom it'll be two spaces uh but overall even if you consider 3.5 family member you know 11 that is almost like you know 40 people there and even husband wife in New
Jersey both husband wife actually works most cases so do you have enough parking capacities you know irrespective of whether you have assigned or not So the 11 unit, let me let me talk about the four unit
first. So the four-unit, normally we're overparked. Normally disabled veterans don't really have too many cars in their unit. In other words, if I have a family of three and you have a husband and wife with a child, >> right?
>> That husband and wife will have one car. Most I've ever seen in the four unit projects that we've done are four parking spaces, and I have never seen more than that. >> Okay. In the 11 unit project, we're we're overparked per code. So, we definitely have enough parking spaces
and we normally don't see, you know, an abundance of parking as well there. Um, you'll tend to see more than the disabled veteran project. No question about it, but it's not to the point where there's not enough. >> Uh, following up uh Mr. Papa's questions
and most of the time apartment building one problem always comes up Saturday Sunday about the noises of you know a party happens and noise comes in somebody doesn't like it and how you hand because you don't have any um
so-called in-house superintendent or any of people there that always happens after 11:00 at night so how you how you basically handle that type of situations >> well we also have camer cameas that are in on site that we have plenty of cameras on site to see if there's a
situation or anything like that. But um you know even if there was an on-site super you can only handle so much and do so much for people. Um you got to hope that you know everybody you know works together and and respects each other's
you know living condition that you don't have that issue. Um, you know, we've had a situation where we've had an issue with, you know, tenants and we've been able to go there and and resolve it and deal with it and make sure that it doesn't happen again. So, we're again,
we're very we're very hands-on and we try to do what we can to make it right. >> You you do have a system in place where tenant complaints can >> Yes, correct. >> Okay. I have a couple of more questions. Uh you already answered that for
disabled these are all uh handicap access accessible for four units. Uh you also had I think uh one questions obviously couldn't answer. So you you have a stairs not elevator. So how how you are planning to design that one for
accessibility for the upper um uh stairs people or upstairs people. >> So the four unit project again the first floor by code has to be handicap accessible. Um, the second floor has to just be set up for handicap use. Meaning, you know, you can have someone
in a walker. They could be, you know, their sight could be impaired, their hearing could be impaired, prosthetic arm. You you make up for that as well on the second floor. But by code, you don't need to have an elevator because of the amount of units on the first floor and
the second floor and the amount of people living in the unit in the building. So that that's part of the screening and selection process to get the right um occupant into the right unit depending on their specific type of disability. >> Correct.
>> Okay. So that will >> So you're going to have to speak up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So that's a part of the process of selection then to make sure that correct >> upstairs residents at least can uh walk through the stairs. >> Correct. >> Okay. Uh do you have any anticipation
that they may need that chair uh what do you call >> lift? Yeah, chair lift. >> Well, chairlifts are are not a means of egress, if you will. If there's an emergency, you can't use a chair lift by code. So, we wouldn't put one in because of that. >> Uh we would designate the people that
need quick access on the first floor and the people that don't will be on the second floor. >> Okay, understood. Thank you. Yeah, you were right. Uh last one. uh on the interval of the work order. Uh as you know all plumbing problem comes on
Friday afternoon and Saturday or Sunday. uh so in that case if somebody what is the interval of your metrics your KPI to provide the at least you know work order to be completed for anybody kind especially on disabled veteran case or
somebody has a children's they probably will be more needing a quicker action than waiting for another four or five days I >> mean it depends on the situation like we just had with this deep freeze we've had HVAC units go down and within you know four or five hours we've been out there
to take care of it. I won't, you know, not going to lie, you know, sometimes it's taken where we have to go the next day because there are so many calls that for that HVAC contractor that it's hard for them to get there. Um, but the good news is the way these buildings are
designed and built, they're very energy efficient. So, you know, they're very airtight where they don't the temperature doesn't vary like that in a lot of ways. It it stays pretty stable. Um, obviously if you're, you know, minus 10 degrees and you're even in a building
like that, it'll still drop, you know, pretty bad. But, you know, we do everything we can to make sure that we we answer anybody's calls. And keep in mind, when a work order comes in, it gets emailed. So, you get a you get basically an email that says, "Hey, this person has a work order." And we all
have our phones, so we just look on our phones. Even if it's at 10 o'clock at night, we make sure that we try to address it the next day, at least at a minimum. Basically, you're you have a written KPI that you would do address within 24 hours. >> Yes, we try to make sure every one of
our calls calls are fulfilled within 24 hours. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you, chairman. >> Any other questions from our board members? >> Yes. So, I have some questions on the lighting. Um, especially in the nighttime, um, for the residents that
have, as you mentioned, PTSD, some visual impairments or mobility, uh, limitations. Do you see where, uh, there might be some blind spots, any inadequate lighting that could create safety risk for for your tenants? Um,
like blind corner, stairways, dumpster areas even. >> I mean, >> appropriate for the engineer. Yeah, I was just about to say that, Mr. P. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Was about to say that that I would leave that to my engineer to answer that because there township codes of candle
light, you know, calculations that have to be that. So, I would have to really >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. I just had a question. Uh you mentioned that the disabled vets, there's four units and those are
classified as very low income. Do you know what the income restrictions are for the very low income and also what are the income restrictions for the low and moderate for the 11,000? So what would be the salary that these people would be making per year? >> So the uh disabled income they can't be
more than 30% AMI and it's a regional income level in which they provide. So I can't tell you what that income level is for that project. But if I was to tell you anywhere, you know, depending on the family size could be 28,000 30,000 a
year. Um, but the low and moderate project that could range depending again, it's all depends on region, excuse me. And um, it also depends on family size.
Generally, they're compliant with um how the Fair Housing Act and U-Hack uh provides for their income distributions. >> So, they meet that those same categories. >> So, the vets would be pretty much on permanent disability. So, that would be
their income. >> So, the the veterans actually have to have either two things. They have to actually have social security award letter or they have to have a VA award letter >> and they have to be able to prove the disability.
>> Thank you. >> I have a few questions. >> Thank you. Um I know for the four unit you talked I see in um the documents that we have that there's plan for one ADA spot. However, it's four disabled
units. How do we come up with one one ADA spot? >> So, that's based on the code that I guess the engineer could tell you a little bit more about, but usually the code depending on how many occupants there are, the code dictates how many spaces you need or handicap
accessibility. Um, again, most residents that we've housed um don't don't have wheelchairs. They mainly are, like I said, a prosthetic arm or PTSD or hearing loss or trauma,
but they a lot of them don't have wheelchairs, believe it or not. >> With that said, and this might be a question for the engineer, you can stop me if it is. The parking spot size is the minimum width, correct? So, even a disabled person with a prosthetic arm or
leg or, you know, if they're hearing impaired may need more space. Has there been any thought to increase the size considering you said most of them don't have >> one car? >> There hasn't been a thought in a sense of increasing the size. Um we do meet
you know the requirement of the code. Um and but I can let my engineer talk a little bit more about that but you no we haven't to answer your questions no we haven't thought of increasing the size. >> Got it. And then I I know that you asked this question. I apologize I didn't hear it. What did how often did you say garbage pickup is?
>> Once a week. >> Once a week. >> And who's responsible to maintain the external spaces? >> So, we are. We have a management uh team that will do that. >> And that management team, you said, isn't on site?
>> No, they're not. >> How often are they on site? >> Once a week. >> So, they maintain the external spaces one time a week. Well, when I say the person, meaning he's a he's a a superintendent, if you will, that goes out and makes sure things are being maintained. But we do have a third party
people like the trash removal and also um the cleaning crew and lawn maintenance and snow removal. Those people are there. The the cleaning person's there every week. Um lawn is there every week. Snow is obviously
there whenever it snows and trash is once a week. So there are people there weekly. >> And then cleaning the cleaning person, are they doing shared spaces or are they doing the parking lot? Like who maintains the the parking lot? >> It'll be the cleaning person and the lawn maintenance person. They'll have both. So the lawn maintenance will blow
the leaves or blow the parking lot, make sure it's all clean and all that. And then the the cleaning person will also walk the lot to make sure there's no garbage on the ground and they'll pick it up and put it in the garbage. I think that's it. Thank you. >> I have a couple of questions. Mr.
>> Ber, um you mentioned sanitation. Um what about recycling? >> So there are two dumpsters. One's one's for um rubbish removal and then the other one is for recycling. >> So it's all in one bin.
>> Um it depends on the recycling company and the standards in which the county works with, but it could be one or it could be two. Do you have a property management handbook that you utilize that tells people, you know, how often to clean the
windows or the floors that we could take a look at? >> We have the rules and regulations. That's what we give out to all the tenants. >> No, not the tenants. Your management company. >> No, we don't have a we don't have a book that does that. We have our inspection
report that tells that field sup uh field supervisor what to look for and he writes down what they look for, takes pictures and make sure that things are working properly and being cleaned. >> Okay. And you said there are cameras. >> Yes, there is.
>> And are they located outside in the hallways? >> Both. >> Okay. Um is there any common space inside the buildings? >> No, there isn't. It's very efficient building where it's just hallways and
that's basically and stairways and that's basically it. >> Okay. >> And so there's no basement. >> Well, there is, but that's used for, you know, mechanical equipment. >> And each unit is has control over their own HVAC.
>> Yes. >> That's it for me. Thank you, >> Mr. Brun. Just one more question on that uh waste pickup. So you mentioned that do two containers, one's for recycling, the other one's for rubbish. How does bulk pickup figure? So for example, if a piece of furniture or couch, if that were to be thrown out, is that also
scheduled to be picked up once per week? >> Now what what they'll do is a tenant will arrange with the township um that there has to be a bulk pickup and they'll arrange that with the township and the township will come and take care. >> That's done in other in other projects. >> Okay. So essentially if there's an issue
where there's an emergency, you know, refuge of of multiple pieces of furniture, they immediately contact the township. That's resolved within a matter of days. >> I I think here in Bridgewater, they'd have to make their own arrangements with the uh township uh >> township does not provide that service
here. >> How would that uh take place if the township doesn't provide the service? Would that waste management company handle that? >> They'll have to. I mean, that's the reality of it. I just know that some aren't some do not pick up once a week. Sometimes they do once per month, twice a month. That
>> I mean we we'll arrange it where we'll make sure that there's a day that will require that. >> Okay. >> So we can probably arrange that. But again, as I said in the in other towns, we haven't had that issue. They they will be glad to do the bulk pickup.
>> Okay. >> I heard a question over here. >> Yes. Go ahead, >> Mr. No, >> you're first. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, by the way, some trust company do pick up once they wipe their large like furniture. So, some
doesn't and some you'll have to pay it. So, you you have to basically consider that that at least you know either you pay or somebody else pay or something. Uh, now who pays the maintenance fee for 11 unit? I can understand that you know tenant will pay it. But for the civil
veteran 4 unit, who pays the maintenance maintenance fee? >> There isn't a maintenance fee. It's just part of the operating cost of the project. >> Oh, okay. So, nobody pays any maintenance fee for that. >> Uh suppose you know somebody some other
is a medium medium income or low-inccome family. They basically got the lottery, they paid it. Can they subleasase it >> a a unit? >> Yeah. >> No, they cannot subleasase a unit. That's even in the lease and it's part of the state regulation for the housing.
You can't just go and sub lease like that. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Chairman. >> Mr. Bank, I know you had a question. >> Yeah. Can I go, >> please? >> All right. >> Uh Mr. Brun, so just a few questions for you. Uh you had mentioned there's no on-site manager, correct?
>> Correct. >> Uh where is the where is your management team located? Like where's the closest uh you know response team? And you guys are based in Franklin Lakes, >> Bergen County, >> Bergen County. So what is the kind of guaranteed response time for
maintenance, emergencies, and resident dispute? Um it it again it depends on the dispute and depends on the emergency but you know usually you know we can be there within no no again it depends on the situation but if it's a dispute
between two people normally we just get on a conference call and all three of us talk and we figure out what the problem is and we try to resolve it that way. um if it's an HVAC issue where they're having a problem, we get that we get that phone call or we get that app, you
know, it's called an app folio uh portal work order, they'll tell us and normally we'll have the HVAC contractor who's on service and they'll go out there and take care of it and we'll have one of our people meet them. >> And is that a number that's provided to all the the tenants?
>> Well, the portal is the best way to do it. We tell them all that whenever you have an issue, just get on your portal. It's on your phone. just send in a work order and we all get it and then we just answer the you know the call if you will. >> Okay. And just curious for any um like
resident slashnneighbor uh incidents, what is the protocol there for some of the neighbors? Um, we would we would want the neighbors to, you know, obviously call us and tell us what the issue is and we can hopefully work everything out and uh we'll go and talk
to the to the tenant that's creating the issue for the neighbor and hopefully we can come up with a resolution that the neighbor's happy and you know the the tenants's happy. >> And is that within the emergency response time? Well, again, if it's not a person
that's on our um you know, list of tenants, you know, that's that person next door that's not part of the project's not going to be able to go into our portal and put in a work order, >> right? So, how do they get in touch with you? >> Uh again, they can call the office. The
office is uh forwards all their calls to any person that's on that list in the office and that call will go to that person's cell phone. >> Okay. Thanks. Uh is there a list? So I think there's a few questions on just responsibilities around the property. Is
there a list of responsibilities or that the superintendent/cleaner you know have to maintain? I think you mentioned that they have take pictures. Uh is that something that you can provide to the board? >> Yeah, I can show you the the >> checklist. >> Yeah, the checklist that shows, you know, how we do it and all the pictures
that we attach to it so you see how we take a look at it. >> Okay. If you could provide that, that would be great. Um, regarding uh I think we talked a little bit about refuse and recycling. Where is a central refuse and recycling collection point on the site?
>> Um, I I'd rather let the engineer talk about that. >> Okay. And then you mentioned it was going to um that the recycling would happen once. Would would that follow the Somerset um collection or Okay. So, probably
every two weeks or so, I guess. What what measures will management take to prevent odor and pest issues? >> Well, first of all, I'd like to say that, you know, recycling is picked up once a week and trash is picked up once a week. >> Okay. >> It's how we do it. Um, in regards to,
you know, pest and and and things of that nature, what you just mentioned, you know, the trash areas are not close to the buildings at all. They're they're on the other side of the parking lots. So in to have a you know a pest problem there it would be very small in the
sense of getting back into the building. >> But if obviously there's a you know a pest problem like raccoons or anything like that we would deal with our pest company. >> And are the refuse and recycling all clo and closed off? >> Yes. >> Uh with like a fence or a gate.
>> Okay. Um, just one other question that I had was, uh, I think you had mentioned that you're the operator that you would be the long-term owner operator of this property, >> correct? >> Do you have a formal good no uh, good neighbor policy?
>> A what? >> Like a like a good neighbor policy for like your tenants in order, you know, keeping noise under uh, certain levels after 10:00 or maintaining their space. >> We have that in our leases. not good neighbor policy, but in our leases we
call talk about quiet and enjoyment, no smoking and things of that nature for the environment of the building itself. >> That's part of your rules and rags. >> Correct. >> And is that something that you can provide to the board? >> No problem. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> That all Mr. Banga?
>> Very good. >> Any question, >> Mr. Buro? I guess the biggest emergency >> correct >> PEX. >> Any other questions from the DES? >> Why don't we ask some of our professionals if we have any questions?
>> I just have a couple of questions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. >> Miss >> Mr. Brunie, um I know you'd mentioned you have other projects around the state. Can you just mention, you know, some locations that you currently that you constructed and continue to operate? >> Um we have one in Glenrock. We have
actually two in Glenrock. Uh we have one in Midland Park. We have one in Mountain Lakes. We have one in Waniku. We have one in um um I can't remember all of them. I apologize. one in Wayne. Uh we're
opening up one in Montil now. And um yeah, there's there's there's a couple more that's not coming. >> Fine. I didn't mean to cut you off. I just wanted to get an idea of kind of the the stretch and um just just to get an idea um of some of like the context
of those properties. Are any of them in a similar context to this site, surrounded by other residential uses, surrounded by, you know, a mixture of commercial uses? Like are any of them in a similar context to this site? >> I would say probably 80% of them are like that.
>> Okay. >> Similar to this one. >> Thank you. And I know >> 80% are in residential neighborhoods. >> In a residential mix, you know, residential with commercial next door. >> Okay. Um I know you you've talked a little bit about um and you've answered
some questions about like tenant issues or complaints. Um, how have you had any neighbor complaints or let's say even zoning violations, property maintenance violations at any of those other properties? Um, we haven't had any complaints in a
sense of um, well, I shouldn't say that. We've had one neighbor complaint on a project. Um, it was a neighbor that didn't want the project. >> Okay. >> So, they complained about um, a trash issue, but we resolved it right away. Uh
you're happy to even I'm happy to have you call the burough administrator from Midland Park and ask her how quick we resolved it and what we did to resolve it. So you know you you're welcome to do that. >> I was going to ask if you had any other kind of like you know a range of other
complaints. Have you had any other kinds of complaints to those projects after they've been constructed >> other than the one I just described to you? No, we haven't had any real complaints. >> Thank you. Um I know you that each of these units within at least in the in the fourbedroom
this um home for disabled veterans those are all two-bedroom units correct? >> Yes. >> Is there a limitation for two-bedroom units on the number of residents that like the size of the family that can um tenant that that can occupy? So, normally what we do is we set a standard
saying, let's say it's a two-bedroom, um, a husband and a wife and two children of the same sex and gender are allowed to be in one bedroom, but if it's a mix, we don't allow it. In other words, we won't allow a boy and a girl in the same bedroom uh, like that. So,
it would have to be a single person. So, we do limit the amount of people. >> Okay. So, you're so it's maximum three three to four people in a family. So, a couple and at least one child up to two children total. >> Correct. Um, and I just bring that up because Miss Chartichitch asked a
question about the the income levels and I I wasn't sure if what the sizes were, but if that's the case in this region, Miss Charterich, and for the board's edification, a very lowincome one-person household is as low as $32,220
and a fourperson household, which is would be the most extreme if you consider the children as um you know a in the UAC standards there's half person and whatever depending on the children's age. Um up to 46,000 for a fourperson household is is the maximum is the
income level, I'm sorry. And those are set by the uniform affordability uniform housing affordability controls. They're updated every year as median incomes go up or down. Um but that's for region three, which Somerset County is located within. Um so I just wanted to make um
that more clear. Um I know we've talked a lot about the um the disabled veterans. I didn't know if you'd gotten really into the the multif family building at all, but um are there any are there any um common areas within that building? >> No, there isn't in in either building
there's not common areas. >> Okay. For for the multif family building because that is a little bit different as far as the bedroom distribution that has one, two, and threebedroom units. Are there size limitations for the families in those units as well? Like for a one-bedroom unit, is that only up
to two people? >> Yes, correct. We try to manage the the amount of people especially when we're you know vetting people. We make sure that they fit in an environment that's that they can live in and you know be peaceful in. >> And in the and the lottery system um and
the weight list as people apply also will help to or basically sets out their preferences as well for what their needs are. Right. >> Correct. Um so so and that's similar to the the veterans housing even though it is um first come first serve you may get
applications for tenants but se tenant selection I think Mr. Chow is kind of asking certain questions about that tenant selection is based upon not only what you are offering, right, but what the what the potential resident wants as well, right? That it's a right the correct fit. So hopefully um sometimes
when we think about affordable housing, there's misconceptions particularly with the lottery. It doesn't mean that if someone gets um is gets off the wait list and gets chosen for a unit that they have to go to that unit. There is still a process in which people can go visit the unit. um the administrative
agent which Mr. Papis mentioned the township has an administrative agent. We have an ordinance that requires that all the developers use the same one as the township which is great because we have a very good idea of exactly what's going on when we are talking about administration of of units um and making
sure income levels are being met and making sure deed restrictions are being followed. But um it is a very important part to note that those residents as they work with the administrative agent don't get forced into a unit. they don't get forced into a situation they don't want. Um, and I just want to kind of
dispel that as you know the affordable housing uh plan is now done and there's a court order and there will be more applications for affordable housing before this board. Um, that is one of the you know the the kind of umbrella general terms about it. Um,
I know you'd mentioned when Mr. Papus had brought up that um provision about the administrative agent that you use housing affordability services which is HOS or the state administrative agent. Have you worked with any other administrative agents other than HOS?
>> No, because we normally just do it ourselves in house, but that's not saying that we wouldn't work with the township's administrator. >> So, you don't have any issue with working with the township's administrative agent >> if that's what the township requires us to do? >> I Yeah, I just want to make sure it's not an issue. um they're a great ad
administrative agent so I don't think there should be any issues but I just wanted to make sure that there were no problems particularly with the funding that you utilize that it wouldn't be an issue utilizing another one um I think that is all I have for right
now. Thank you very much. >> Mr. Burr, >> thank you Mr. Chairman. Um Mr. Brun, you gave us an overview of your company. you listed maybe six or seven properties that uh you own currently. How long have you been doing this? How long has your
company been in business? >> Um we've been in business, you know, since 2010. Um prior to this, um I was part of building some of Somerset corporate center. I work with SJP properties as a vice president of
construction and also work with Kushman Wakefield as well as a head of New Jersey office. So, you know, my experience in the uh development industry has been has had a lot of experience doing it and doing it
on my own. Um, you know, we've done we've gone into a different sector than the market rate sector, if you will, what I'm used to. So, um, you know, yeah, we've been we've been doing it a while. >> And can you give the board an idea of how many units you've constructed
overall ballpark since 2010? >> Well, we've we we managed project at an owner's rep for a project in Fort Lee called Hudson Lights. That was 276 residential units along with uh three tier parking deck and also 300,000
square feet of commercial space. >> You manage that. Is that >> as an owners rep managing for the developer being part of development team? We were on site or every day managing that project. >> And how many units would you say you currently manage?
>> Currently right now we uh we manage close to 50 units >> and um in the near future we'll probably that number will grow probably to you know another 20 units on top of that within the next year. >> Okay.
And as far as this project is concerned, you had mentioned um that you would install cameras, interior and exterior cameras, is that your main mode of of security oversight on the property like this? >> That's one way of doing it. We also have an intercom system that's, you know,
digital where people have to sign into so we can look on our phones to see who's coming in and out of the building based on the codes that they put in. >> Okay. And um do residents have is there like a key fob access? Do they have actual keys to get into the building? How does access
>> It's not a key fob system. You can use a key an actual key, but normally they plug a code in and that gets the building. Yes. >> To enter the building. Okay. >> Um and then just touching on maintenance of the property. I know we heard about once a week you're going to have
maintenance personnel there. Um, you also have third-party um, maintenance folks that come on for, you know, snow removal, um, lawn refues, etc. Um, I'm trying to think how to how to answer
this and I'm I'm losing my my train of thought here. Um, let's put that put that question on hold for a second. Um, the let me touch on the parking. So parking um you had mentioned that you're you're at or over parked for this property. Correct.
>> Based on RSIS standard >> based on RSIS. Some of the other projects that you listed the six or seven other projects comparable in size to this one. Have you had parking issues on those other projects? >> No. Some of the uh some of the other projects meet RSIS. Some of the other
projects meet it. So it depends on you know the project type. But those are the standards that we've met. But you have not had issues where between the tenants having maybe more vehicles than you anticipated and visitors that all of a sudden you have parking issues where
there's no more parking available on site and you have overflow or overspill parking into adjacent neighborhoods. >> I haven't been made aware of that. Um and also when I go there sometimes, let's say I go to my Glenrock project on a Saturday, I always can pull into a
parking space. I want to go back to the to the maintenance question. You had mentioned that you have the portal system >> for your tenants. If there's an issue, they put in a work order. And I think, you know, we heard some of the board members asking questions about
how that process worked. And what I took away from it is if there is an emergency, if it's something that happens overnight, a you know, a water line bursts or, you know, the the the heating is out and it's freezing like it has been, is there somebody that's able
to be contacted on a 247, say overnight basis in the event that there's a true emergency or does this just go into a portal system and email and folks are asleep and maybe it's it's two or three hours before it gets responded to? How does that work in a true emergency overnight? How do they get a hold of
you? >> Well, they have they do have our phone number and again, if they do call the office, it gets forwarded to one of our phones. So, that does happen. >> Yeah. >> Um I've had a situation where I got a call at, you know, 11:30 at night and we had to, you know, deal with the the
issue. The person person couldn't get into the building. They they they didn't bring their key and they couldn't remember the code to the to the building. So, I had to go there and deal with it. >> Okay. Um,
question similar to the parking question I just asked a minute ago. Outdoor storage. If a tenant has a boat or a trailer, is something like that permitted to be parked in the parking lot? >> In the rules and regulations, just vehicles, >> you can't even park a vehicle that's not functioning. If it's not functioning,
you got to get rid of it. So that's something typically that your once a week inspection would pick up upon if there was something you know that shouldn't be there. It's going to get flagged. >> Correct. Even even oil spillage on the site, like let's say they have a car that's leaking oil.
>> If it's, you know, a decent amount, we we tell them that they have to, you know, do something about it or get rid of the car or whatever it is that they have to do. >> Okay. And then as far as um refu and recycling, we heard that's typically once a week pickup um could be more I
guess if if if you deem it necessary. >> Yeah, if it's warranted, we we would definitely do that for sure. >> And have you found that you can make accommodations with the haulers to avoid say a 4 a.m. pickup? Yes, we we tell them any of the haulers that we have, we
tell them you got to pick up, you know, at least no later no earlier than 7:30 in the morning. >> And the individual tenants are responsible for removing their trash or recycling and bringing it to the dumpster. Is that how it works? >> Correct. >> Okay.
How does mail deliveries work? You mentioned that there's a there's space in not the lobby, but the entrance to the building where packages can be delivered. How does daily mail take place? Is it is there a central mailbox for each? >> Yes, there is. There's a central mailbox
and the person that's delivering the mail, he'll have a code as well that we give him and that person, he or she will be able to get in with their code. >> Okay. Um, last question is kind of kind of two-part has to do with construction.
If the project is approved, how long do you think construction will take from beginning to end on a project like this? Well, in historically the 10 unit is I mean the 11 unit has taken us like 10 to 12 months. Okay. >> And the um the four unit has taken us
anywhere between 6 to 8 months. >> And typically would both buildings be construction on both be concurrent? Would they be going at the same time? >> That would be the idea. Yeah. >> So something like this wouldn't be a phased construction. >> It we want to be able to do it all at
once because it just makes sense to do it that way. Okay, very good. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. >> Thank you, Mr. Bur. Any other questions from our members from our deas? >> I just have one and I don't know, Mr. Brun, if you want to touch on this or maybe your engineer, but I think one other board member talked about parking
for the disabled and uh I I have an interest in discussing that and maybe expanding the number of spaces. So, guess would you like your engineer to cover that? I think we should have Mike cover it because there is flexibility in terms of the spacing like the literal
space of the parking spaces. So I think he's best >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. P. >> At this time, I'd like to open up to any members of the public that wish to ask questions related to Mr. Brun's testimony. I ask that everybody please limit it to questions at this time. There'll be plenty of time for
commentary and sentiment. Uh but yes, >> please can you come to the um microphone? >> I'm I'm an attorney. I've been retained by the Burrow Somerville. So I will be objecting to this application. I'm ready to proceed.
>> Please could you please restate your name? >> Yes. It's Dennis Galvin Gin. >> Okay. All right. Just to alert the board, I do have a planner/engineer. We refer to him as Slash and he'll be available when we present our case in
opposition. Okay. Right. Uh I'm sorry. I need your last name again. >> Rooney. B R U N I. >> B R U I. >> B R U N I. >> Rooney. Okay. So, um you've I may proceed. >> Yes, please.
>> All right. So, you've explained to the board uh that you were involved with the design of this project. Is that correct? >> Partially involved. Yes. >> Um, did you choose the direction of access to the site?
>> Um, didn't choose it. No, but we we took in consideration what we had available to us. >> So, but you also have a lot of frontage on Route 202 206, >> correct? >> You chose not to use that frontage.
>> Correct. Um, and you've decided to use Cornell Boulevard for your access, >> correct? >> That's in a different town. Are you aware of that? >> Um, not that I'm aware of. >> And and
there's no there was no planning on the Somerville side for having access to this roadway. Are are you aware of that? >> State your question again. The normally there's a pres you're you're presuming that you can have access to
Cornell Boulevard >> to a public road. Correct. >> No, you can't have access unless you get a road opening permit. >> Uh again, it's a public road. >> Um in a different town, >> a lick road. Correct.
>> Mr. Galin, you're not crossam. Um I thought you were supposed to asking questions about his testimony. You know, I'm used to having your job and I'm I'm going to be lousy at being the objector's attorney. I'll do the best I can. All right. I'm sorry. Just Just consider what it would be like if you
were doing this. So, all right. Um, so, uh, so you you did not give any consideration to using 2020 206. >> I never said we didn't take any consideration. I just said that we are
using a public road. Was there ever a plan to access 20220 206 instead of Cornell Boulevard? >> Not that I'm aware of. >> Um, and when was your plan developed? >> When was my plan developed?
>> Yeah. When did you go to your engineer and said, "Let's draw up a plan for this." When did that happen? >> I don't recall the exact date. I don't I don't remember. >> Did you give us some time frame? Couple months ago, five months ago, a year ago? >> Again, I I don't remember the exact date. Um, were you involved with the
municipalities uh Bridgewater's decision to create the ordinance to create this zone? >> Was I involved in it? >> Yeah. And somehow did you have conversations? >> Uh, we've had >> I know that that was uh a topic of his testimony. >> He said he designed the plan. I'm trying
to figure out how he designed the plan >> architecturally. No, I'm talking about your decision to use Cornell Boulevard instead of using 202 206. And I want >> Cornell Boulevard is in a residential district and in a public road. >> At some point, were you involved with
the um the this affordable housing because you're in affordable housing. There's negotiations in affordable housing. The the bureau decides it's going to create this zone. Were you aware that they were going to create the AH3 zone?
>> Yes. >> Because the AH3 zone is literally just your development. Isn't that correct? >> I I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know. >> Well, we'll present evidence that it is. >> Okay. >> All right. So, so I I want to know when
did and if the AH3 zone was just created in December, in my experience, it takes some time to create an engineering plan. I'm curious when you had the initial discussion to develop the plan. >> Again, I don't recall a date of when that happened.
>> All right. So, you don't want to tell me um have you have you or anybody on your staff gone to the DOT to find out if you can have access to the 2026? >> We submitted DOT application. >> When did you do that?
a couple of I I don't know again the exact date had to been at least a couple of weeks ago or or a month ago if I remember right >> um so you always intended to your plan was built on using Corell Boulevard.
>> Yes. Correct. >> And did you do any investigation of the Somerville side as to their willingness to allow you to use that? >> No, because it's a public road. >> That's You keep saying that, but we'll find out.
>> Um, now, so far you've described trucks coming on to this site. So, let's So, you said there would be moving trucks, right? >> There'll be moving trucks. Yes. Amazon's going to come daily
>> just like goes down Cornell already. >> The postal deliveries are going to come daily >> like it does in Cornell already. >> Um likely to be school age children here. There's going to be schools. >> Correct. Just like >> school buses. >> Cornell does already. No different than
what happens today. >> Um what are the total parking spaces you're going to provide? You meet the RSIS standards. I don't know the exact count. >> All right. So, you don't know how many parking spaces are on the site. >> Again, it means
>> you just say no. You don't know. It's okay. Not >> 22 and 22 and uh 22 and 10. How about that? >> So, we're looking at about another 30 cars coming in and out of here a couple times a day >> per RSI standards. Correct. >> Okay. And
even in Are you aware of the neighborhoods that are next door? Yes. >> Are they multifamily homes? >> No. >> What are they? >> Single family residential and a diner and another commercial spot. >> Uh let me ask you about the diner in the other spot.
>> Sure. >> Did do you make any inquiries to them as to whether you might have obtain an easement so you can have access to their driveways? >> No. >> All right. And um in the event that
there is an emergency on this site, um how how do you expect Bridgewater to access this site to provide police and emergency services? >> Just like any other site. >> Well, do they have to cross into
Somerville to get to this location? >> They have to go via public road. Correct. >> Isn't it possible that Somerville will be more likely to respond first? I can't answer that question. I don't know. >> And who's going to maintain Cornell B
the extra be responsible for the uh extra wear and tear on on Cornell Boulevard? >> I can't answer who would be responsible for that. >> All right. I thank you, Mr. Brun. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Galvin.
>> I'd like to invite any other members of the public, please. Members of the board, good evening. U my name is Rob Simon. I'm an attorney with Herald Law up in Warren, New Jersey. I am here on behalf of various residential
property owners in the vicinity of this project. Um I'd like to for the record uh read them off the names and addresses. I will get Miss Propes a formal letter acknowledging uh not only who am I representing but
also making it clear that I have instructed them that um if they have questions for various witnesses they can only ask them through me and I'm the one who asked those questions. Um, so again, uh, Rob Simon, uh, so these are my
clients, uh, Richard Cash, 203 Cornell Boulevard, Bridgewater Township, Block 406, lot 3. Jennifer Fleer and Jason Rodker, 110 Prospect Street, Somerville
Burough, block 153, lot 16. George and Barbara Cook, 199 Cornell Boulevard, Bridgewater Township, Block 406, Lot 4, and Brian Riley, 100
Prospect Street, block 153, lot 15.01, Somerville Burough. >> Mr. Bruna, good evening. >> Good to see you as always. >> Um, so just a bunch of questions. Let me
um start with the applicant here is is it Wheatsworth Properties Urban Renewal LLC? >> Yes, it is. Yes. >> And does the applicant own the subject property?
>> Yes, it does. >> And when did the applicant become the owner of that property? >> Um had to be sometime in the summer. I don't know the exact date. >> Summer of 2025.
>> Yes, that's fair. >> So, when I did a a title search, it seemed that the owner of the property is not Weatsworth Properties Urban Renewal LLC, but rather Weatworth Properties LLC. Does that refresh your recollection
as to who the actual owner of the property is? >> Well, it's one and the same. when you do an urban renewal, it's still the same EIN number and it's still treated as the same company. >> When you say just for edification of the board, I know what you mean. Um, but when you're talking about um when you do
an urban renewal, if you can explain to the board what do you mean by that? So, an urban renewal company is a company that allows to be part of like if you need pilots or anything of that nature, um it allows you to take advantage of,
you know, tax um you know, exemptions and things of that nature. >> So, is this property in a redevelopment zone? >> No, it is not. >> Is not. Um, have you applied uh to the township for um a pilot or what's
otherwise known as a payment in lie of taxes agreement? >> Mr. Chair, I'm going to object to this line of question. It doesn't have anything to do with site plan application. >> Well, the reason why I'm asking the question and give you a profer is that he made a distinction between who the applicant is and who the owner of the
property is. And I'm trying to for purposes of protection for the community and my clients understand who's making the representations. Is it the owner of the property? Is it the applicant? They are not one and the same. And trying to understand the
relationship between the two, especially given the fact that the witness has represented that that they are going to be quote unquote the owner operator. So that's why I'm getting into the question. So I'm not trying to trick you. >> They are one and the same as Mr. Brun testified. same company, same EIN
number. It's this it's a matter of there being a name change when the entity was converted to an urban renewal. >> Okay. And um Mr. Brun, you're familiar with um Bridgewwater's fourth round affordable housing plan. >> I Yeah, I know of it. Yes.
>> Housing element and fair share plan. Um were you um consulted uh a as part of the contents of that plan regarding your property? Um I don't if you can just explain the
question. >> Sure. I'll ask it a different way. Um in the in the fourth round plan, it identifies the affordable housing developer of this site as a company called Noville LLC. You're familiar with Noville LLC? >> Yes.
>> Okay. And what is novel LLC? >> That is my company which is a main company. When you say the main company, you're talking about what are you talking about? The fact that it's a principal company and there's
subsidiary companies. I'm just trying to understand again, not to trick anyone, understanding what the relationship is between the purported affordable housing developer for this site per the fourth round plan, visav the owner of this property, visav the applicant for this
property. So, Neville is the main company as I s stated before and the other company Weedworth Properties is a sole member company that's owned by me. So, there is a continuous company ownership which is
the same ownership. So, who is going what entity is going to be operating at this site? Wheatsworth Properties Urban Renewal and they're going to be the owner of both of these lots. It's correct.
>> And as part of this application, your intent is to com is to transfer the ownership into the urban renewal entity. >> That's correct. It'll be part of urban renewal. Okay. Um, now in reviewing your application,
uh, it stated that the, uh, 4unit is going to be a residential apartment building designated for disabled veterans. Correct. >> Correct. >> It's not a group home, correct? >> No, it's not a group home. Correct. >> And it's not supporting supportive
housing. Correct. >> It It is supportive housing. >> It is supportive housing. Yes. >> Okay. And and what makes it supportive housing? >> It's because it's disabled veterans. >> And and where do you um rely on language from a reg?
>> Under federal regulations that this project was funded under under this qualifies as supportive housing >> based on federal regulations. >> Federal regulations. I don't have the citation in front of me. I can pull that up if you need it uh at a later date. >> Right. And
so in terms of this supportive housing, they're not going to be um food deliveries to to this four-unit development. Correct. That's all going to be individual determined by whoever is the residents of those units. >> So when you say food delivery, what do you mean by that? I mean, and again, I'm not trying to be a wise guy.
>> Yeah. Yeah. In in other words, that um each unit is going to be rented the each two-bedroom unit. And in terms of um providing food, it's up to those people who are renting these units to get food, whether it's the supermarket, get Door
Dash, or whatever. Right? There's no sponsor or organization that is going to be responsible for delivering food to these individuals on a daily or weekly basis. Correct. >> They get treated just like any other individual. They get their own food. And
um you talked about uh this other projects that you have developed that are similar to this project. And I think you just to make sure I'm clear, you mentioned two in
Glenrock, one in Midland Park, one in Mountain Lakes, one in Wanuku, one in Wayne, and one in Montville. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um, are you able to provide, if you don't know it, tonight to the board, uh, the addresses of those projects so folks can go visit them and
see what they look like? >> Um, 261 Rock Road, 511 Ringwood. >> Hey, wait, wait. Which, which in terms of the towns? >> Well, you're going to have to guess. >> Not doing that.
>> Yes. Go ahead. Glenrock. What are the addresses? >> 261 Rock Road. >> Yep. >> Uh 23 Ken Uh 32 Kenmore Place. >> 32 what? >> Kenmore Place. That's again Glenrock. >> Kenmore Place. Yep. And what about Midland Park?
>> Uh that's 714 Godwin A. >> Mountain Lakes >> 367 Bloomfield A. Wanq 511 Ringwood A Ringwood. You said >> yes. >> Wayne,
>> uh Wayne is five metal road >> in Mont. Is it Montil or Montville? >> Montil. I got it right. Okay. >> 26 North Kind Road. >> 26 North >> Kind Road. Okay. And do you recall whether
any of those uh developments straddle an adjo adjacent municipality? >> Uh yes, Midland Park does. >> When you say Midland Park does, um first of all, what municipality does it
straddle? Other municipality? Woff and is any of the property located in Wyoff? >> Yes. And is one um are all these developments or
these other projects comprised of two separate lots? One for an 11 unit development and one for a 4-unit development? No. Um, of these projects, are any of them
comprised of just one lot? >> Uh, yes. >> Okay. Which ones? >> Uh, all of them. >> All of them. So, is this your first project uh in the state of New Jersey where you have
uh a an application or or or seeking approval for a form of subdivision? No. >> And where are your other projects where you have sought and received approval for a subdivision for for 100% affordable housing project?
>> Actually, I'm going to correct myself. Wayne was a subdivision. >> Wayne was a subdivision. Okay. And was it a subdivision similar to this subdivision where one lot is 11 units and one lot's four units? >> One lot is six units and another lot is
a group home. Have you done um any projects in New Jersey that are comprised of uh 11 units low and moderate and a four units uh apartment for disabled veterans?
>> No. So this is the first one proposed in the state for you? >> Yes. And is there a reason why you are seeking a subdivision
as opposed to seeking development on one lot? >> Um, can you say that question differently? >> Sure. Is there a reason why this development is being proposed as a
subdivision, creating two separate lots, one lot for the 11 unit project and one unit for the four unit project as opposed to just seeking development on one lot for those two projects? because
the property can yield um the density that's being proposed. When you say the property can can yield. So Mr. Galvin asked you a question about
the enabling ordinance for this project and he asked you about your involvement with that when the in terms of your involvement was there a discussion about creating one lot versus two lots
>> um say the question again I'm sorry >> sure in in your discussions with the municipality regarding the creation of what became the the underlying ordinance for this application. Was there a discussion about creating
one lot versus two lots? >> Um, no. There wasn't a discussion about creating one lot versus two lots. >> So, how was the density uh in the ordinance then determined for this particular project? >> Uh, the again it's what it can yield.
When you say what it can yield, what it can yield based on the uh terms that were set forth in that ordinance? >> No, based on just good planning. >> Good planning. And um what did you rely
on to determine that good planning dictates two separate lots? what you call um is applied a minor subdivision um for 11 units on one lot and four units on another lot.
>> Hold on one sec, Mr. Simon. Are you trying to distinguish between a development of two principal structures of 11 units and four units on one light lot versus a subdivision with
the same uh unit counts? >> I am asking Mr. Brun, how it came about that this project is a minor subdivision as the as applied
for with two separate lots proposed to be created for approval by this board as opposed to one lot with two separate buildings on that one lot. and he replied, I
believe, good planning dictates it. It's my paraphrasing. And I'm asking him as a follow-up question, what information did he rely on to conclude that good planning dictates
creating two separate lots on on this mother lot property? just experience and what um a property a oneacre property could yield. Technically a 1acre property can
yield up to 25 units. So this is an acre this is an acre and a half >> and we're undersizing and underdeveloping what is you know what you could actually get out of it what it could actually yield. So what are you relying on to determine
that a 1acre property can yield up to 25 units? >> It's just again my experience of and knowledge of development. >> Okay. Nothing else other than that. All right. Um
are these this might be an ignorant question on my part. So you're proposing to create two two lots. Are these lots permitted to be transferred separately? >> I so if
>> I can't answer that. I don't know. >> You don't know. >> I don't know if they can be transferred. >> You don't know. What I'm asking is that you have 11 You have 11 project and a 4-unit project. You're proposing to be the operator of both projects that have proposed cross easements, which we'll
get into later. Um, but you don't know whether one can be transferred without the other. >> I mean, you can. There's nothing to say that you can't do that. I'm not going to tell you you can't do that. >> And
when you said you were, Mr. Galvin asked you some good questions about 2026. Um, did you look at other properties in Bridgewater to site your project?
>> We've looked at other properties that were, you know, either in flood zones or couldn't be properly built on, but this was the best option. >> And what other what other properties did you look at that you determined were in flood zones or otherwise couldn't be
developed? >> Uh, one on 202 and 206 while back. Um, again, I don't remember the exact location, but there was a a drainage swell going through it and the water table was high. Um, >> and and that was in Bridgewater? >> Yes.
>> Okay. You don't remember the address? >> No, I don't. >> And any other properties? >> Um, there was another property in um that we're building a group home on. Um, but that wouldn't have yielded um what we
needed, but that property as well. Um, wait, let's let's stop right there. When you're talking about the the group home, um, what property is that? >> 901 Route 202 206 >> in Bridgewater. >> That's correct.
>> And when you say you're you're building a group home for how many residents? >> Six. >> And how large is that property? >> I don't recall the size of it. smaller than the subject property.
>> I'd be lying if I said yes. >> I want you to lie. >> Um, with regard to the other properties that you uh rattled off, that you've developed. Um, have you performed any
parking or circulation studies >> on the other properties? >> On the other properties as built? Yes. >> Um, and when you perform you perform those studies what? By a traffic engineer. >> Either by a traffic engineer or a civil
engineer >> after they were built. >> No, no, prior to them being built. Oh, after No, no, no. >> Right. So after the project was built and up and running and you had residents, you for all those projects that that you've identified, you have
not done an asbuilt traffic or parking study. Correct. >> No. >> No. Correct. Right. >> Correct. >> Okay. And when you determined
um to develop this property, um I assume you performed some sort of title search for this site >> prior to purchasing it. Yes, correct. Um, did you identify any easements,
restrictions, covenants impacting this property? >> Not that I can recall. >> Okay. I happen to notice on your site plan, and I'll show it to you, Mr. Bernie, that
the property, the subject property, um, abuts block 406, lot 2, the diner property. You're familiar with that to the to the, uh, northwest? >> Yeah, I'm familiar with the diner
property. Yes. And from the site layout plan, it appears that there are a number of parking spaces on the diner property that encroach
on the subject property. Are you familiar with that? >> No. So, nobody brought to your attention that there are a number of parking spaces on the diner property that encroach on the subject property and
namely the proposed subdivided lot where the 11 unit low and moderate income building is located. You're not familiar with that? >> Nope. So, if you're not familiar with that, you're not familiar with whether there's any types of easements,
covenants, or other types of permission that allow those parking spaces to be located on your property. Correct. And you're not aware whether
for how long those parking spaces that have encroaching currently on your property have been located in that on that property. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. So you so it could very well be that those parking spaces have been on
your property for over 30 years, but you wouldn't know that. Correct. >> Correct. So you don't know whether there's any prescriptive easement, adverse possession, or other rights that the diner property may have visav your property. Correct. >> Other than the title search saying that
you have an issue, correct? And I rely on those professionals to make sure that doesn't happen. >> Okay. In in your title search, um you know, there's exceptions in a in a title search under or they're called section B2. Um, do you recall um anything being
called out in your title commitment or title policy that um addresses this encroachment? >> I don't know what you're referring to on B2 and >> Okay, that's okay. in your title commitment or your title policy, title
insurance policy, do you recall any mention of an encroachment um of the diner property onto your property, parking spaces or otherwise? >> Again, not that I recall. >> Okay. And you did you um receive a
survey for this property prior to purchasing? >> Yep. Right. Because I see it on sheet two. You got a survey here and the survey um similarly shows
the encroachment of the pavement onto your property. Do you recall seeing that? >> No. All right. And see if I have any other question. Oh, um, you talked about the basement.
There's a basement for each one of these properties. >> Yes, Bernie. Um, and what's to be located in each basement of those properties? >> Mechanical equipment. Um, is there any area available for storage for the
residents? >> If it needs to happen, it can, but we don't contemplate that. >> And when you say if it needs to happen, it can because there's there's space available for storage in the basement. >> Yes.
>> And do you recall um how much square footage is available for storage for the residents in the basement? >> No, I don't. And did you ever consider, you said you were um Mr. Galvin asked you the question
that you were um involved in the design process. Um do you recall considering any other design for this project including switching the location of the buildings with the parking areas?
>> No. And were there other designs that were presented to you? >> No. >> Is there any signage that you're proposing for this project? >> Not at this time. um of the
of the projects that you identified in Glenrock, Midland Park, Mountain Lakes, Wanuku, Wayne, and Montville. Um do any of those projects front on a state highway? >> Yes. >> Which one or ones? >> Um the one in Wayne, the one in in um
Mountain Lakes, and and I think that's it. Do they have access to the state highway in e either case? >> Uh Wayne does not and um Mountain Lakes does.
>> So um in Mountain Lakes the state highway access is that the only access for that project? >> Correct. >> And um there is there one driveway or two? >> One.
And did you as part of the purchase for the of this property um conduct any type of phase one or preliminary assessment? >> Yes. >> And were there any AOC's or areas of
concern that came out of either one of those studies? >> No, not that I'm aware of. Put it to you that way. And I noticed that in terms of your uh helping to create the design of this
project that I don't see any amenity space um for children. Is that correct? >> Correct. There's lawn areas that they can play on. >> There's what? >> Lawn areas that they >> lawn areas. Right. So the other projects that we identified earlier, I don't need to repeat them. Is there a many amenity
space available for um children for those projects >> except for lawn area? No. >> And I count based on the bedroom mix uh up to 30 kids potentially um that could
reside uh between the two properties. Does that sound correct approximately given the bedroom count and and the mix that you described during your direct testimony? >> Yeah, I can't say if that's accurate or not. And um are there sidewalks um proposed for this project?
>> There's a driveway access to Cornell Boulevard. >> A driveway access, but I mean are there are there side separate sidewalks being proposed? >> There are sidewalks on the site. Yes, >> sidewalks on the site, but is there any sidewalks being proposed to uh link up
with Cornell Boulevard? >> Um I don't recall there was >> if you know, >> we can address that with the engineer. >> Okay. Um, you know, you talked about in responding to Mr. Galvin's excellent
questions about access in Cornell Boulevard. Um, you kept saying, "Oh, ju just like it is now." Just like it is now. You haven't done any type of studies or counts as to school buses going up and down Cornell Boulevard on a daily basis, right?
>> No. Mr. Chairman, just give me one second. I think I'm almost done. >> All right. Nothing further at this time for this witness. Thank you, Mr. Bernie. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Simon, >> are there any other members of the public that wish to ask any questions
based on the testimony just heard? >> Good evening. Please state your name and address. >> Steve Moss, 311 Ultimont Place, resident of Somerville >> and um concerned citizen about what's going on. And I just want to um reaffirm
that he is under oath still. Correct. >> That is correct. >> Okay. Fantastic. And what's your name? >> Luchiano Brunie. >> What's your first name? >> Luchiano. >> Luchiano. Okay. Luchiano. So, at the beginning of your comments, someone asked you a question about
how many of these project? >> Yes. 50 units in total. Remember, there's 50 apartments. >> So, this would be about a third percentage of active apartments you have. That's as close. Yes.
>> Okay. So, and you also stated that when one of the board members asked you if anyone ever wanders off your sites, you said not enough. >> Correct. Correct. >> Okay. Are you caging in this property? Are you fencing in this property?
>> Part of it will be fenced. Yes. Okay. >> I maintain over 800 units in my company. And I think I'm a little bit more knowledgeable than you are about this. People wander all over. >> Is Is that a question? Are you testifying?
>> Excuse me. >> You're being argumentative. >> All right. I'm sorry. I apologize. I retracted the question. Okay. All I'm saying is >> you question him on his on his testimony. >> I am testimony. You'll have you'll have time. So >> So his testimony is no one ever wanders
off his properties. >> Said not to his knowledge. >> Not to his knowledge. >> Okay. Do you know how close the um veterans building is to 206 footage wise?
>> Um I again I don't know the exact >> It's 35 ft. Okay. That's one of your areas for children to play according to your comments of certain lawn areas. You have children? >> Yes.
>> Okay. You know how busy that highway is? >> Yes. Would you want your kids playing ball back there? >> There's plenty of apartment buildings. >> I didn't ask that. I didn't ask that. >> Plenty of apartment buildings that are built that are close to highways or on highways. >> You want your children >> and I don't think that's an appropriate
>> 35 ft from a highway. >> I'm going to object to that. >> He's answered your question. >> Okay, fine. So, was it coincidental when you went under contract with the Nicholas Boso
um trust fund or whatever it was to purchase this property that your closing was within couple weeks of this board approving the resoning? Was that coincidental or was that planned? >> That's >> I'm just asking you. You
>> Fair enough. You couldn't give us dates on anything. >> More than probably more than likely coincidental. We don't >> Well, it's not because Mr. Simon has the dates and it was right after this board reszoneed the property. >> Okay. >> So So you're under contract waiting for
something to happen. >> No, not necessarily. >> Okay. Okay. Was it one lot when you bought it from Mr. from the Boso uh state? >> Yes, it's one lot. And now you're looking for relief for minor subdivision for two lots.
>> Not looking for relief. We're complying to the zone. >> Okay. And do you know the difference between minor subdivision approval and major subdivision approval? >> Yes. >> And you know the criteria? >> Yes. >> And you're not trying to circumvent that
by splitting these lots in half. >> You're saying it's I forget the wording you use, but you're smart and you know about development. But yet you've only ever done one of these before and it was a a group home and an affordable housing. It wasn't a
veterans home and an and an affordable housing. So you're really not privy to that minor subdivision versus major subdivision testimony. >> And he did testify to having other property subdivided. >> He said he had one.
>> Yeah. Did have other property subdivided. You said you had one. All the other ones for Mr. Simon's questions were they were all one lot subdivisions >> based on affordable housing. Yes. Based
on other projects I've done in the past. I've done a 34 lot subdivision. I've done a 12 lot subdivision. I've done >> lot residential housing. >> You've asked me if I did a subdivision. I know the difference between minor minor and major. >> Okay. So >> your question was it not? What's the
difference between a minor subdivision criteria and a major subdivision all these >> I see the re you're asking him for legal conclusion criteria >> I think it's beyond the scope of his testimony and >> I'm not >> we'll move on we'll move on okay so you
have a building for disabled veterans this young lady Ashley said there's one I believe one handicap parking ramp >> the four unit >> but we spoke about prosthetics all kinds kinds of things. I think the great citizens who represent this country
should all have a placard, right? If you have a fake leg, what are you going to say? One of the spots is taken, but yet you have a building with four units in it and only one spot. This gentleman asked for an elevator.
What's going to be the defining criteria that says the guys upstairs are not as disabled as the others? And what if the guy upstairs becomes more disabled? Where does he go that he can't get down the stairs? >> Is that a question? >> That's a question because you said
there's no elevators per code of New Jersey. >> That's right. It's the code that says that first floor has to be accessible. Second floor does not have to be. It's the code. >> Okay. Another question is, did you know that the residents of Somerville had filed a
lawsuit against Bridgewater about two and a half months ago? Yes or no? Read it in the paper. >> Yes or no? >> Read it in the paper. Yes. >> Yet Mr. Simon asked you if you knew that you were accessing a Somerville Road and you said I did not. You said I knew I
was accessing a public road. >> So you read Somerville was suing and then you blatantly said you didn't realize it was a Somerville road. >> Never said it wasn't a Somerville road. >> Said it was a public road. >> Exactly. It's a public road. Exactly. >> But you knew Somerville was suing
Bridgewater. Why would they be doing that? >> Townships sue other townships all the time. >> Okay, no problem. And no one ever let you know about that. That's fine. Um I'm going to look at um we went over to disabled vets, the
subdivision of the miners, the closeness. Have you ever even thought about putting up a a barrier along the highway for soundproofing and safety of children and families such as 287 and all the major highways have been doing over the years?
>> No. >> And the reasoning is >> because it costs millions of dollars. >> But don't you think if you save one life it would be worth it? >> No. >> I don't know what that has to do with life. >> Make money. I understand. I develop
homes, too. >> Again, it's I don't know what you mean by that. I really don't. >> I think the board should consider a barrier wall, fencing around it because you said no one ever leaves a facility and maybe even a gate in the front. I mean, if that's what we're going to do.
The next thing I'm going to get to you is talking about is you mentioned $28,000 as a veterans whatever the most they can earn to get one of those accesses. Correct. >> Okay. So, we have this situation in Bransburg
where it became a mess because of just what we're going on here now. So, the veteran has a wife. He's living there. >> His 35-year-old daughter gets divorced. >> She has nowhere to live. She has three kids. Next thing you know, they're
moving in there and you have to fight them to get them out. But then they create two more vehicles. But maybe the guy who's disabled can't drive a vehicle. Maybe he has an electric wheelchair. Maybe he's going to go up
and down Cornell where we have no sidewalks. We have no street lights. >> So, I've seen it happen. There's bus stops in Branchburg now in front of units that are not supposed to have children. What? >> It has to be a question. >> It is a question. Like, how is he going
to react when other families move in? like your your daughter moves in because she just got divorced and she needs a place to go. There's four more people in that home right now. How is he going to react to that? And they only make 28,000
a year. Let's not forget that. So they everybody can't own a car. You can't even live in New Jersey for 200,000. You're a regular person. >> You're filibustering here. I mean, ask a question, please. >> I did. How you going to How you going to adapt to those new >> making a speech to me? How you going to
adapt to those vehicles that are in flux into your thing when you said there's 10 spots for the four units? >> They're not going to be because it's against the lease and the state does not allow stuff like that to happen. >> Are you going to tow the vehicles? >> Yes. If they're not in there, they get towed. Yeah.
>> Okay, fine. So, are you familiar with the amount of vehicular traffic a two-bedroom unit creates in any given day in any given suburban city town?
>> Again, that's outside the scope of his testimony. He's not a traffic engineer. He's not here surveying. >> He mentioned to us how many cars were going to be coming in and out. I'm just asking him. He's on the road. I didn't mention I didn't mention how many cars are coming in and out. Someone asked me, do you want do you know how many cars
parking spaces are for there? That's all was asked. >> And each person gets how many? >> Depends on the bedroom mix. >> You just said the four unit gets there's only 10 parking spots in the fourunit building, >> right? >> And one of them is handicapped. So that leaves nine.
>> So there's not one space per apartment. That's how it works. >> That's how it works. And on the other side you had 20 >> 22. >> Okay. for the 11 >> and how many handicap spots you have there. >> I don't recall >> that can be addressed in the engineering. >> No, I mean you mentioned there was one
to this young lady, >> but nobody ever mentioned about the two. >> Again, I don't recall how many there are. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. Well, I'm going to give you I'm just going to say something. So, for every two-unit
home, it creates between seven and 11 vehicular incidents a day. If you could ask the question a little bit more direct. Just a bit more direct. >> 2,000 new cars on Cornell Boulevard. >> Save it for the engineer if they give testimony. He's not given any testimony about this. You're making speeches and
it >> well it should be done because >> well >> because we had a meeting on a emergency meeting here on a Tuesday. Mr. Simon gave you all the things that were wrong with the zoning. You fixed it and the next day you reszoned it. >> So So that happened. >> I don't know what you're talking about. >> That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.
And I I think you're also confusing the township council with the planning board. >> Well, it's all relative. All the faces look the same to me. All the faces look the same to me. >> So, your dumpster enclosures that you said you were going to have two recycle bins in. Correct. Or one recycle, one
garbage. Correct. >> Correct. >> Three yard dumpsters you said under oath, right? >> Correct. >> Do you know the width of a three-yard dumpster? I don't have the width, but the width in which the enclosures are created are the same ones that we have on our other projects, and they have two dumpsters in them.
>> I I didn't ask you that. Do you know the width of a three-yard dumpster? >> No. >> The width of a three-yard dumpster is 7 foot from horn to horn, which is the thing that picks the truck up. >> Mhm. >> So, two of them side by side is 14 feet. Your design enclosure has a 12oot
opening with the gates or 10 foot opening, excuse me, with the posts. How you going to navigate that? >> They dumpster company takes them out, spins them around, loads them up, and puts them back. >> Okay. Well, we'll see about that. But
that's a decent answer. So, you're saying some of our veterans could possibly have PTSD. They could have a multitude of things. Are you going to discriminate against them if if the traffic on that highway,
which we know is unbearably so loud when they're 35 ft away from the highway? How are you going to how are you going to handle that? >> Well, not sure what you mean by discriminate because the Fair Housing Act doesn't allow you to >> Well, should I answer the question or should I just >> Yeah, sure you can.
>> Thank you. Um the Fair Housing Act um actually does not allow me to discriminate. So, I'm not sure what you mean by discriminate. I take objection to that statement. >> That's fine. And I guess these are engineer questions, so we'll get to them
later about the capacity of the storm water management and where you're discharging all your water into Peters Brook. So, I think I have one more thing for you, sir. So, are you
based on what these people have to say, are you acceptable to put a wall along Route 206 and 202? >> No, >> not at all. Okay. >> Not at all. >> And you also said, correct me if I'm wrong, that you looked into road
openings with the DOT two weeks ago. That was your >> We didn't look into road openings. We submitted an application >> two weeks ago. >> Two to three weeks ago. And you're going to tell me these plans were built in from two to three weeks ago when I know how long it takes to
design plans. Or was that because of the ongoing litigation that you're looking into maybe popping out on 202? >> Took us two or three weeks ago. We submitted the drawings. It's that simple. >> But you have When was these drawings created? If I look at the
>> We submitted for subdivision drawings since you're aware of the process. we submit for subdivision drawings. Those draw drawings are already pulled together and you have to just modify for DOT application and that's what happened. >> And you never knew that you were coming
onto a Somerville street which I just I just it I can't believe it at all. >> It's a public road. >> It's I don't want to hear the public road stuff. >> Okay. >> It's ridiculous that you would sit here on >> We're going to focus on questioning. We've given ample amount of time in
order to ask questions. apply to please sign use the sign-in sheet as well. Ask that any further questions. Please remain direct so as not to confuse those in the room and those on the deis. There's ample time for question. Please keep it as direct.
>> Good evening. >> Good evening, Mr. Brunie. So, a lot of my questions were asked and I think the board had some good questions as well. So, some of the questions we didn't get your name and address, sir. >> Sorry. John Manilio, 255 West Summit Street, Somerville, New Jersey. So, some of these questions will be clarifications. Um so I know there was a
lot of talks about you know what mechanisms are in place um you know if there is an emergency or if there's something that happens and a lot of talk was you know within the development with the tenants and then there was some discussion about you know the neighbors and you said that they would call. So
how would they get your number? Is there a sign posted? How how would that work? we wouldn't have it signposted, but you know, um obviously if we're going to be using the administrator from the township, they would have our name and number and you know, office number and stuff. >> So, if a resident, let's say a
neighboring resident had an issue, they would have to call the town to get that name and number to >> I I guess just like any other neighbor that has an issue with a neighbor, I just don't know who they would call, you know what I mean? >> Okay. Um, as far as the um the four
unit, which is the uh veterans disabled um housing, is there any safety measures inside the building or is that more of a question for the architect as far as you know like a call button or or some type of emergency system? >> Um, no. There's no like call button for emergency, but they would have, you
know, they have their own phone and things like that just like again any other residential person would have. >> Okay. Um, and just following up on that, so I think the testim heard was that there's two accessible units on the ground floor and then two semi-accessible units on the upper floor. Correct.
>> Well, I wouldn't say there's semi-accessible, but they're they're allow they're adaptable to allow, you know, if they have to put grab bars in, we can do that, >> right? But a wheelchair can't get upstairs, so it's fully accessible. >> Right. >> Okay. Um so then when tenants move in move out and and the the process what
happens when you know a tenant applies let's say on the first floor and um they're not you know I guess constrained mobility wise so they don't have a wheelchair and and a space is open on the first floor >> that is open to them and they could be rented out to them. Correct. >> Correct.
>> Okay. How about on the second floor? If somebody applies and they meet all the uh the requirements, they meet all the check boxes, uh but they're in a wheelchair and they can't use the the second floor, so they would be denied an application. >> Yeah, we couldn't accept them because they couldn't go to the second floor
obviously. >> Um there was talks also about um I guess loading or unloading and move in and move out. Um and I think the testimony was that there was a you know plenty of extra spaces. Um, so I I looked at the plans. It looks like there's 31 proposed spaces total for the site. Um, counting
both lots and and 27 are required. Um, I think there was one miscalculation. There's nine spaces on the for four unit, not 10. Um, so of the 31. So you're you're over by four parking spaces. Um, three of those are designated as EV or technically two are on the plan EV,
but three are required as EV. Um, correct. Uh, if I remember correctly, I'm, you know, not going to tell you. >> Um, and you said that you would designate parking spaces for the tenants, correct? >> Correct. >> And then there's two ADA parking spaces as well. Correct.
>> Well, I know there's the one on the four unit. I don't know how many are on the um, you know, the 11 unit. >> Yes. So, I guess I'm trying to get is how do you designate parking spaces for tenants if you have five of those spaces that are reserved? So, two of them reserved for handicap. And then three, um, the EV parking spaces are not just
for EV vehicles. It's for EV vehicles that are being charged. Uh so a car can't be parked there at all time. So essentially you have out of the 31 parking spaces um I guess 27 that could be utilized or 26 that could be utilized by anybody and then two or five that are
restricted. So how does that play into the u designation of tenant parking spaces? >> Well again we we assign you know spaces based on the amount of bedroom mixes they have and stuff. Um, but you know, that's the only way I can answer that question.
>> So, there's a possibility that even though there's more parking than required on the site that you might have actually less parking spaces than are required for the RSIS. >> Uh, no, because RSIS says two per per bedroom. I mean, two per apartment and we have we meet that requirement.
>> Um, want to move to the garbage pickup. So, I think I heard testimony that pickup will occur as early as 7:30 in the morning. Is that correct? Yes. >> Is there any way to make that later in the day? That seems a little early. I >> mean, we could request, you know, they come later. Sure.
>> So, when you say request, mean that it's not going to happen. It's just that you can make that request and they could say no and it could still happen at 7:30. >> Well, not necessarily. I mean, we've we've had situations where they've come at 7:30 and the township says, "Can they come later?" And we've made that happen. >> So, if the board were to make that a
condition of approval, would that be something that you'd be okay with? Um, yeah. I mean, we could I can look into it. I won't say that right now. Yes. But I'd have to think about that. Yeah. >> Um, and again, I'm not sure if this is a question for you or for your engineer. As far as trash pickup, um, looking at it, looks like it's a dead-end site. Um,
as far as So, a truck would have to back up eventually to get out of the the the parking lot or or driveways. Correct. >> Well, the engineer has uh truck movements on his drawing, so he would show how that is. >> Okay. So, yeah, um, that's for the engineer. But then the other question is, will the garbage trucks have beeping sounds when they back up as well? More
than likely. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um I think Mr. Simon had asked about tenant storage and you had mentioned that it's possible that tenant storage could be provided. How about bike storage or bike racks or anything to that effect? >> We we do we put bike racks outside. We do that.
>> Um there was no testimony on this. It's just a general question. Um and maybe it's more for the architect because I did see something on his plans. But is there any generators proposed on the site? >> Um not that I recall. I wouldn't not know, but >> I'll ask the architect because he does have the AC units, but then there's a
box next to it and want to make sure it's not a generator and if so, what that size would be and the sound. Um, again going back to Mr. Simon and I know you had mentioned um several sites that you have uh right now in Bergen County and I guess Morris County. Um,
and Mr. Simon had asked you about, you know, which which one of those were on state highways. You mentioned two of them. Uh, follow-up question as far as do you know how many of those are on county roads? Um, I would have to say, um, let me think about that. You have Wanuk's on a county
road. Um, yeah, Midland Park's on a county road. Mountain Lakes is not. That's not That's not. And, uh, North Kind is on a county road, meaning Montville. >> Yep. >> County Road.
>> And you're close. I think I counted four on the county road, two on the state highway. Are there any on a residential um street similar to Cornell? >> Well, not similar, but on a residential street like um uh Kenmore is
>> Kenmore. How many as far Kenmore? >> That's a two. That's just a two family. >> Two. And how many are you proposing on this on this application? >> Uh 11 and four. >> 15. Okay. Great answers. I got Ken Moore is as the
only one that's a residential. The other ones are all arterials, county roads, state roads, um >> surrounded by residential. >> Yeah. I'm just asking what where the access comes off of. Got it. Got it. >> Leads to my next question as far as I know there's questions about access off 2026. And again, I have questions for
your engineer, but I mean, is there a reason why that wasn't looked at? I mean, is it just it's not convenient? It takes more time. It won't get approved. I mean, we never really got an answer why that wasn't done. Well, in that section of 202 206, if I recall
correctly, that's really a ramp. It's not really 2026. >> Has there sense of in in the sense of the actual highway? >> Yeah. Has there been any discussions with the DOT or pre-lication meeting? >> We we've put an application in. That's all I can say. >> What kind of application was put in >> for with the DOT?
>> I understand, but there's different types of applications. Minor access, major access, highway. >> No, it has nothing to do with access to the highway. No. So, do you know what type of application was made? I >> I don't recall exactly what it was. >> That's probably a question for your engineer. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Um, talking about amenity spaces and open space, I heard that there wasn't a lawn area. Um, looking at the site plans, it doesn't look like there's a lot of lawn area. Um, you have buildings, you have sidewalks, you have parking, you have driveways, uh, you have some landscaping, then you have two basins.
Um, is there enough space for recreational space? there is for the children to play on. Yeah. >> Okay. And that's something that maybe one of your professors could talk about how much area you have. >> Uh yeah, in a sense of grass area. >> Okay. And then um going through it
again, I know there was a couple questions about the subdivision, why the subdivision, but I don't know if I got a clear answer. Is there a clear answer why a subdivision is being requested? Um again just because we split them up for the f I mean another reason why we did it was because of uh various funding
sources that we can get for each project. >> Okay. And I'm not sure again if this is a question for you or for your engineer. Um would lot 2.03 be considered a flag lot? >> Um again I I wouldn't I would that's a
question for the engineer too. >> Okay. Um Make sure I'm not missing anything here. That's all my questions for you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Manilio. Please remember to use a sign sheet if you haven't done already. >> Sure. Anybody else?
>> Take your time. >> My name's Gain New 291 West. Could you speak into the mic just a little bit closer? >> Gain a newer 291 West Summit Street. Um, just a quick question. Is there anything that's gonna protect the cars
going up the ramp onto the highway from kids kicking balls into the road or something? You said there wasn't going to be a wall or anything there. >> No. >> Wondering like what could come out. >> Sorry. Just wondering what would protect
the cars that are driving up the motorway from things that could be thrown over accidentally, you know, intentionally obviously by tenants or children that if there's no wall or no road. >> Yeah. We we're not we're not planning on putting a wall, you know, adjacent to
the highway. So, no, we don't plan on doing >> Well, there's nothing to protect if someone gets crazy and throws a lob something into the road as people are driving up on on the ramp onto the highway. >> Not that I know of on the drawings. I
mean, yeah, not that I don't see anything on the drawing. >> Okay. Okay. It might be something you might want to consider, I guess. Yeah. And also the sound of the people. Are the windows sealed or are they can they open the windows that are sort of right
next to the motorway? I'm just thinking the sound, especially if you've got PTSD, the sound of that must be really quite scary sometimes. >> Yeah. I mean, we do have windows that are probably opening to the highway. So, yeah.
>> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else? Please, >> just a reminder, state your name, address, please, for the record. >> There's no pen here. >> Uh, you can sign in there. Is there a pen there?
>> No, there's no Bring that microphone a little closer if it helps. >> My name is Hines Newire. I live on 291 West Summit Street as well. And I had a few more questions about the property as well. So, one of the questions I have to
the gentleman here, do you know where the next response team is? kind of like for an emergency response. >> The what again? I'm sorry. >> Like the the next firefighter, the next fire station, the next hospital, the next ambulance where they
could call. >> Do I know where the nearest one is? >> Yeah. >> Not that I'm aware of, though. >> You don't know? >> No, I don't. >> Would you know how long it would take them to get to the station to to to your location in an emergency of in an emergency? >> I I wouldn't know that, honestly.
>> You wouldn't know. You wouldn't know how to get there either. >> No, >> I wouldn't know. No. >> All right. So, so this was one question then. Did you ever was was the council ever asked about the noise or the council ever mentioned to
you about the noise from the highway that this location for a house therefore public housing might not be the proper location? Did they ever mention it to you? I I never spoke to the council. >> You never spoke to the council. You
never spoke to the town about the noise? >> No, never spoke to the town about the noise. >> Did you Did your engineers ever make an assessment on how much noise is coming from the highway? >> Not that I'm aware of. No. >> No. Did they ever count the amount of of
vehicles passing by there in a day's time? >> Not that I'm aware of. >> Any any peak hours? Did they ever mention between four and five there's so many cars driving traveling by there? >> Not that I'm aware of. Not they didn't.
>> Did they ever mention any? I mean, have you been there by the by the location? >> Yes. >> At what time? >> Um, was I there last? We're digging digging test pits. That was a while ago. I don't remember the exact date, but I was there probably in the middle of the day.
>> In the middle of the day. see in the middle of the day because I walk in the morning my dog you know and I go by there at 5:00 when when the truckers so I'm I'm speculating now you know so I know you you haven't been there but when the
truckers come over the highway and they're coming from the Flemington side and they need to go on to 22 they need to break right in front of your house when those when those really heavy trucks come over the highway and you hear the jackhammers from from
the breaking. I hear that by my house and I live about maybe about >> please right here. You're giving >> Yeah, I know. I know. I know. But I'm just wanted to explain to him like if he has never heard it kind of like because then he can never make an assessment on it. And if you guys never heard it
either kind of like you probably can also not make an assessment. But I live there. I live there every morning. I go there by every morning kind of I hear the noise. >> And you're putting veterans there. Not putting anybody there, sir, but it's just this is time for you to ask
questions based on his testimony. There'll be a time at the when they conclude their case and everyone concludes their cases where everybody can get up and testify and give speeches and you can give your thoughts on on the project whether you like it or dislike
it and why. But now is just for questions on the test. >> All right. So is there any green space for those residents >> under any what >> any green space anything >> there's lawn area there is lawn area and
landscaping? Yeah >> for how many people >> and how big? >> I didn't calculate the size >> you don't know >> I don't know >> you don't know the size of the green area either >> I don't know but I know there is green space for the residents to play in
>> the children. more questions then. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Mr. Rooney. Uh, first question. Do you know David Nap? >> I'm sorry. Did you state your name and address for the record?
>> David Knap, 295 Alamont Place, Somerville. Okay. >> At a >> Yes. Okay. Do you know how wide Cornell Boulevard is? >> Uh, no. I'm assuming it's the size of any right of way in in the suburban area
>> 30 ft. So the entrance to get into this development perpendicular to Cornell, correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. I know there's going to be testimony or I know it was required of of the board.
>> You speak into the mic, please. I know it was a requirement of the board for us to know or test to be done with fire engines and delivery trucks, school buses, everything to get into this development. It's only 30 ft wide. What
about parking on Cornell Boulevard? >> I don't know if there's a restriction or not. >> There is no. >> But what So when a car is parked on the street, >> how is anything getting into that that lot? >> That's that's a question for our engineer.
>> Is it? Yes, it is because he prepared the T truck turning exhibit. >> Okay. >> Also, school buses can't come onto the property. >> They can't. I saw something in in the report about if it couldn't, where would
the children be let off or allowed to get to the bus? >> That would have to be something worked out with Bridgewater and the school system. It also said something about building a structure to to have for them to be safe or to be sheltered from rain or >> not that I'm aware of of anything like
that. >> Why could I read this report this morning? I mean, this is the planning board report. >> So, you you go through the report and I see that there's hundreds of questions that you needed to fulfill or answer for us. And I know
some things are going to be open-ended. I understand the fire trucks, you know, did you get separate study, but the street's 30t wide >> parking I was there the day and I know
I'm not test there's a question I know I was there the day that they were d you were digging the well pits >> test bits >> you had a pick you had a dump truck parked on Cornell with a trailer and a backup.
There was another car parked there. Nobody could get through after that. My other question would be, if you plan on a one-year project for building, where's the where are all the trucks coming?
>> Where all the trucks coming? >> Where are going to have delivery trucks? You're going to have backhos. You're going to have uh lumber deliveries. Everything. That is Cornell Boulevard. Correct. More than likely correct. >> I don't know how you do it. You're going
to shut down a whole neighborhood for a year. >> No, that's not going to happen. >> You couldn't even get a car parked when you were digging well pits. >> I can't testify or comment on that. >> Okay, that's all I got. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. N. Did you sign in on the signin sheet? Thank you. Good evening. >> Good evening. My name is Kim Wartman. I live at 289 West Summit Street in Somerville. And I'm going to try to ensure that I'm complying with the guard
rails of adhering to your testimony. So, if I run a foul, my apologies in advance. >> Ours. >> So, my first question is, uh, Mr. Moss asked you about the barrier wall. So if the board actually required you to install the barrier wall, would this
project become cost prohibitive for you? >> Yes. >> Okay. Second, I actually read the engineers report and I promise I will keep those comments for there. But this question pertains to would you based on the other projects you mentioned? So I have Glen Rocks, Mountain Lakes, Wayne,
Montil, Wanq, Midland Park. Based on those, and I heard you speak about the traffic studies, would you be willing to commit, since you actually have seen the location and traveled in the neighborhood, be willing to commit to conducting a traffic study?
>> Um, no, we don't have a reason to do that. >> Okay. Um, now would you also since you saw that there is a lack of sidewalks and a lack of lighting in the neighborhood, so obviously I walk that neighborhood three
times a day, would you be willing to commit to helping with developing the infrastructure with the sidewalks and the lighting so that your new residents and our new neighbors could actually um experience the same safety as we would like to continue to enjoy? will develop
the site, you know, based on, excuse me, based on what we proposed on site >> on site with no regard for the surrounding areas. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, and for note, I just want to note, which I'll address this probably with the engineer, it is
20 minutes during um actual rush hour to get the Green Rescue Squad to or the fire department down to Somerville. So, Somerville will likely be the responding fire company, but again, I'll address that with the uh engineer. So, um I don't know if you mentioned
anything about the sewer or water infrastructure. I don't know how familiar you are with the tie-in to the Raron Valley Sewage Authority or um the actual water company, but are there upgrades planned for the area? >> No, not upgrades for the area. No. So,
are you aware that currently any of those upgrades for that very extremely fragile system? So, I don't know if you're familiar, but our neighbors on a regular basis, we have backups. Um, our water's cloudy. Every day this week, my water's been cloudy. We call uh the
water company to let them know just how poor the quality is. And they've said, "Oh, yeah, that's great. We're going to be taxing you a little bit more. We're taxing you on both." you know, so we have huge increases that we're going to be experiencing thanks to the infrastructure that has not been
maintained. And so the question is, are you willing to commit to, you know, either I don't know, infrastructure support to either entity, >> whatever infrastructure we can tie into, that's what we would do for our project. >> Okay.
Oh, and then property access. I heard you mention I was I think I was excited but I think I misunderstood the actual um submission that you made. So 20220 206 have you submitted a formal application to the New Jersey DOT to access the
property from the highway? >> No, it's not a property access. No. >> And are there plans to do that? >> No. >> If the board actually required you to, then you would do that. >> I can't. That's a hypothetical. I That's
fair. >> Uh, this one is storm water management. That's probably the engineer. I'll save that for later. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Did you use your sign in sheet? >> Okay. Thank you. >> So prepared.
>> I'm going to keep reminding. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? If you have a question, I have a very few minutes here. >> Right. Okay.
Um just a question for you in regards to um are you familiar with uh road paving of new roads and the moratoriums on the roads? >> Familiar with the >> moratorium act? It's absolutely. >> Okay. because I think Cornell is going
to be getting paved shortly. So, there's usually a four-year moratorum on that. So, I just want to make him aware of that. So, you better get moving. >> Please. >> Just two questions that hold you that Rob. >> There's 15 subp parts to my two
question. >> Not surprised you back up. >> No problem. Certainly not. Um, so you keep talking in terms of this this grass area for kids to play on. >> Um, is is it just one grass area?
>> No, each if I recall correctly, each building has a grass area that you know children can play on. >> Okay. And one So each grass area is for that particular building or development. >> I don't know if it's for that particular building, but there are grass areas that
could >> Okay. Are there any crosses access easements contemplated for the use of the grass areas? >> Not that I'm aware of. >> And um other than these grass areas, there's no indoor or outdoor recreation space.
Correct. >> Correct. >> And there's no um working for SJP and Kushman and Wakefield, there's no community facilities like a clubhouse or anything like that. >> No.
And um have you uh entered into a developers agreement for this project? >> Um >> do you recall? >> No, I don't recall developers agreement. >> You haven't entered into a developers
agreement for this project. Correct. >> Well, define redevelop uh developers agreement. Developers agreement under the MLUL which would come after an approval. a redevelopment agreement with your municipality or something else. >> Um, the
controlling ordinance for this zone requires a developer agreement with the developer. I'm asking whether one has been entered into to date. >> I know there was a
a um I can't remember which agreement it was, but I I don't recall. I I'd have to look into my files. >> Okay. Do you recall entering into an affordable housing agreement with the township for this site? >> I don't remember if it was an affordable housing agreement or developers agreement. I have to look at, you know,
my files and >> Okay. >> But you entered into some agreement with the municipality regarding the development of this site. >> Yes. >> And that's was that counter signed by uh the appropriate uh representative of the municipality to your knowledge? I don't
recall if it was or if it wasn't. >> All right. Thank you. >> I don't believe there are any further questions from the public. Okay. Seeing none, Mr. Heyman, I am going to have to stick to my uh preliminary statement there and we have
a 10 pm hard stop for any new testimony. So, unless there's anything else that Mr. Brun has to discuss this evening. We got three minutes essentially. >> I'll get three minutes to introduce our engineer. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. >> Right. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Very good. And I believe um for uh carrying this. Yeah. Coming back. Um if we're looking at dates >> Nancy, we're looking at March. >> March 3rd. >> How's that sound for you, Mr. Diamond?
March 3rd. >> Good. >> That works for me. Mike, you're available. >> Sure. >> Cool. >> Without further notice. >> Yeah. No, no further notice will be given. This hearing is being carried
till Tuesday, March 3rd. Same time, same place. No additional notice will will be given. This is your notice. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Rman. Okay, moving along. As we have no other business this evening, I'll take a
motion for adjournment. >> Mr. Chairman, Miss >> Probes, please >> to announce a date for Wine Outlet. >> Okay. >> Then I'll email you. >> You want to He had requested the 17th so we could ask for the 17th and then if
that's not feasible next next meeting we could just carry it again. I I had already spoken to him when he had sent and I told him April 7th would would likely be better just because we have a lot we already have things
scheduled for the 17th also. >> That's fine. I I spoke with him this afternoon. He must have got him after me. >> He got me after you. I think at like 3:00 or so. So, April 7th, I think is the date. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, for Wine Outlet, if anyone's here for that, that hearing will be on
April 7th, uh here, same time, same place. No further uh notice will be given. >> Make that motion for adjournment. >> I'll make the motion. >> Miss Sakura second. >> Miss Chartitz. All in favor?
>> I >> have a good night everyone. >> 959.