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thank you I think we're promoting some cops tonight Howard yeah call to order the February 6th meeting of the Bridgewater Town Council
in compliance with the open public meetings Act of New Jersey the adequate notice of this meeting was provided on December 10th 2024 by sending written notice and electronic notice to The Courier News and the breeze posting on the website and the bulletin board in the municipal building and filing with the Township Clerk may we have the roll call please councilman kers here councilman cordilla here councilman proso councilman ring here council
president nor Galas here would you stand if uh able for the our Pledge of Allegiance please I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you we're going to defer item four the minutes for the next meeting there's some additional fine-tuning uh Council
reports could we start with councilman kersch please yes uh thank you very much a few items uh um during a recent meeting there was a commentary made uh about um the role of litigation and the question the open course was asked why is Bridgewater involved in so much litigation and I think it's just worth saying that um we we have excellent uh uh legal council we have for many many years we continue to have excellent legal counsel uh that we typically Al
get involved in litigation only as a last resort and that it is an important tool in our toolkit because candidly if we had a reputation of never you know giving in on every suit and you know never defending our our uh our rights uh it would be open season on Bridgewater and certainly we would never allow that to occur uh second quick uh quick item uh on um affordable housing I was not at the meeting last week cuz I had uh unavoidable business travel I don't want to rehash the entire uh debate and
conversation but a few quick thoughts number one is that uh we often talk about uh Bridgewater being a wonderfully diverse Community uh in terms of um uh its its Rich tapestry of Heritage heritages cultures and religions but there's another important way that bridgew is exceptionally diverse and that's in our housing stock We have basically something to suit people all up and down the economic spectrum as it is independent of any regulations that are placed upon us what is being asked
of us and every other municipality in New Jersey with the affordable housing requirements is really the ultimate mandate uh it destroys home rule destroys self-determination and creates multiple Financial burdens they those may have been discussed last week but they include and are not limited to uh additional services that may be required uh exceptional exceptionally expensive services that may be required such as uh extending uh our um uh sewer Capa sewage
Capac capacity uh uh or fire protection uh potentially that even being the require the um uh the item that requires us to consider paid fire protection um there are also substantial errors in the formula as was as has been discussed the state's original number envisioned us building on the Route 22 median which clearly is not viable Camp Cromwell which is protected from development because we own it uh and several churches um and uh ultimately I
would have voted for the resolution last week because we have no choice uh it's a man it's this ult it's an ultimate mandate to us but you have my word that I will join with my colleagues to do the best that we can to make the situation as palatable as possible for Bridgewater uh the planning board met on uh January 20 uh 21st uh heard a case the old Baker and Taylor facility 1120 route22 uh the front office building is being torn down
uh the rear um uh Warehouse building is remaining uh remaining as it is with its current function uh the zoning board met on January 28th uh heard a case uh for a new auto dealership on the property that used to be the uh Courier News half of that was built as the Honda dealership the other half is now proposed to be a Range Rover Defender Discovery uh dealership and that will be heard the second part of that will be heard on I believe it's April 8th uh uh I had the
pleasure of attending the Bridgewater Chinese American Association Chinese Lunar New Year celebration uh this past Saturday I want to give particular accolades uh to Henry Wang the chairman of that Association as well as Lucy Lee who played a key part and thank everybody who who um uh was part of that program for sharing the beautiful Chinese culture with the uh with the Bridgewater community and Beyond then the following day on Sunday I was over at the Bridgewater Commons mall for their Lunar New Year C celebration and
that is my report thank you councilman ring thank you council president um just want to extend a warm welcome to many of the family and friends that are here for the police promotion in a little bit I feel very safe in this room right now um with everyone here so thank you um I also attended the lunor New Year celebration at the senior citizen at senior center this past weekend uh as well as attended the reorganization
meeting of the Middlebrook Regional Health commission that uh we are part of and that's my report thank you thank you councilman cordilla okay um for my report I'd like to say that I also enjoyed attending the uh two Chinese lunar new year programs for the year of the snake and I certainly offer best wishes to our Chinese Community for a year of health and prosperity
also uh since our last meeting I had received an email uh from a resident regarding my comments regard related to affordable housing uh what I can say is that the uh my responsibility as a councilman and we all shared his responsibility is to formulate our opinions based on what we know and what we believe um also
to respectfully entertain the opinions of those who may not agree with us that's when uh dual res respecting both sides of the argument gives us room for uh conversation thought and the ability to come up with a uh solution that will hopefully benefit everybody in Bridgewater Township the one one thing I do know is
many times when we we do uh get correspondence from people and we do hear public portions and so forth the uh comments are made and Things are Written where you really don't know the people that you're talking who's who you're dealing with what their issues are and so on and so forth in the email that I received um and I respect the opinion that I that my opinion is wrong will that's no big deal
but the one thing I'd like to point out is uh the person who wrote the email doesn't will not realize how close we are aligned with the issues of our concern the um two points that I thought were relevant and what I wanted to bring to the public this evening is that when you talk about affordable housing it's usually based on a circumstance with you and your family
it could be based on a loss of income it could be based on the need for housing a special needs child and things like that I will say to i' just like to let yall know loss of income of course I'm retired my income is down but more more more importantly I do share the need for affordable housing because I also have a special needs child
that my wife and I have Amanda is 45 years old to uh in J 46 years old in July she lives with us and our concerns are what's her future going to be uh we're on a waiting list for the probably the past 20 years where uh her numbers are still a couple hundred away from being at the top of the list but I assure you that in reading the email that I received with um I respect it I
understand the concerns because believe it or not my concerns are exactly the same so in moving forward you know I want to see our Council as we work on the affordable housing round four we this this Administration past administrations for for almost the past 15 20 years
this governing body the your councils your Mayors everybody have worked extremely hard to fulfill Our obligation to the affordable housing mandates and we have done so we will work on round four and although I said my goal is zero I know it's not going to be zero it's going to be some some decision somewhere in between but it will be a re in my opinion I hope it's a reasonable
decision based on the Avail availability of land and we if we can match up need with the land that we have you know that's where I hope we can all be so please if you disagree with my opinion that's okay I have no problem with that sometimes discussion you know puts things in a different light that benefits everybody and this evening that's all I have to say thank you thank you councilman
my report uh Chief mitac could we have a promotion ceremony every week because this uh normally we have a handful of people but this is a wonderful occasion I attended the uh Bridgewater Chinese American Association 2025 celebration held at our Senior Citizen Center 2025 is the year of the snake Chinese New Year often referred to as the Lunar New Year is a celebration steeped in Rich traditions and vibrant C
Customs among the most iconic elements are the Chinese New Year animals representing the 12year Zodiac cycle each animal invol embodies distinct traits myths and cultural significance in case you wondered about the other recurring characters uh besides the snake here they are the horse goat monkey rooster dog Pig rat ox tiger
rabbit and dragon thank you Henry Wang for the organizing the celebration and especially for the very warm welcome we received as elected officials jcpnl sent out a memo asking that myar metallic balloons not be used or released under power lines uh especially on around Valentine's Day last year jcpnl had 22 outages directly caused by metallic balloons touching power lines
Tom uh Tim ring and I attended the Middlebrook Regional Health commission meeting earlier in the week in Greenbrook Bridgewater is a part of the commission and our health activities including inspections are directed by commission Health officer Kevin suner under the continuation of an agreement to be reauthorized tonight for 2025 Kevin reports the Bridgewater Health and Human Services director Christine Madrid the health department has arranged for a limited number of rate on test kits to be available for free distribution to
Bridgewater residents they are available on a first come first serve basis I suggest you call the township Health number before coming in to make sure they are available radon is an odorless gas that is a known carcinogen yesterday I attended the monthly meeting of the municipal Alliance Jan by L Lynn Hurley lots of programs being worked in support of students in the Bridgewater Aron school system much more to follow on that in the future
I have also attended several meetings with the administration and our affordable housing planner darling Gran green and feel compelled to tell our residents that we all continue to be fully engaged in meeting the state deadline for affordable housing by this time you already know my thought that the state directive of 474 additional affordable homes was poorly crafted at this point we are working towards an objective of 4177 units over the next 10 years
the public will be kept apprised of our progress as we move forward towards the state Benchmark which is in June rest assured we will not be building affordable homes in the median of Route 22 as suggested by the state plan Mr papus any any report from the mayor please just a few things uh Mr nalis uh the uh resolution that the council approved last Thursday and the accompanying report from topology was in fact filed appropriately by Mr corini's
associate Alex fiser and um so we've complied with that deadline the other thing I'd like to say on behalf of the mayor to Lieutenant Edwards Lieutenant ziker Sergeant Kennedy and Sergeant setco uh he appreciates all that you do in the police department as uh he would say if he were here he has a wife and three young children and each of you help protect them and he's grateful for that what you do for his family and all families and Bridgewater and
congratulations to you gentlemen thank you okay as admin the administrator has already stated the mayor regrets he cannot be here but he is out of town uh
uh actually the heavy lifting for the swearing will be done in just a couple of minutes by by the chief uh but I'd like to recognize not only the the four officers who will be promoted uh but also uh who's going to participate with them now Lieutenant Jamie Edwards will have girlfriend ruthanne and daughter Jordan if I get this incorrect please please tell me about it but after the meeting uh Lieutenant Zer uh his wife Melissa
children Tyler Alexa and Ryan Sergeant Kennedy wife Marissa and Jackson and Lexi uh and Sergeant stetco uh wife Sarah Theodore and Amelia now my job is very simple just to say a few words uh about what we're doing today now it was stated in the in the package that you see that swearing it's really not a swearing in cuz these gentlemen have all
been sworn at and sworn in uh many times o over the years uh they they have taken an oath and they have served very very well this Township over many many years the the process of selecting a promotional candidate is not done in a smoke filled back room someplace it represents a rigorous process whereby the applicants have to submit written testimony they have to take tests they
have to be interviewed they have to have uh recommendations so the the work that is going on in our Police Department is probably the Envy of many of many communities uh in in New Jersey we're proud of our police as Council we support our police we we believe we need to provide the tools that you folks need to protect yourselves and your family I also want to thank the amilies who
provide the opportunity for for these men to take part in our protection and I want to say God bless you all Chief mitac over to you sir all right before we start the uh promotion ceremony I i' like to
acknowledge two lieutenants who recent who recently retired on February 1st which make these promotions possible tonight Lieutenant Fred berain served the Bridgewater Community for 22 years and Lieutenant Todd mey served the Bridgewater Community for 26 years their leadership and friendship will be truly missed and I thank them both for their contributions to our police department and for always putting the Bridgewater Community First job well done by both lieutenants now tonight tonight we come
together to celebrate the exceptional achievements of and well-deserved promotions of four remarkable individual individuals within our Police Department it's both an honor and a privilege to recogniz off recognize officers Kennedy officer stco who are being promoted to Sergeant as well as sergeant Jamie Edwards and Sergeant Steve zner who are advancing to the rank of Lieutenant this occasion marks a pivotal moment in their careers a test to their dedication
commitment and outstanding service to our community Sergeant Edwards and Sergeant zner your promotion to Lieutenant reflects your exceptional attitudes work ethics and experience as lieutenants your responsible responsibilities will expand significantly here are some key aspects of your new rule command and supervision overseeing parts of the Operations Division and managing a patrol squad leadership and guidance setting clear expectations providing
mentorship and fostering positive work environment policy development and implementation contributing to the creation and enforcement of departmental policies strategic planning playing a role in the Department's long-term planning and finally community relations serving as a l liaison between the department and the community I have full confidence that you will continue to lead with an integrity and Inspire those around you in your new roles uh now we're going to uh I'll read a bio
uh for sergeant Jamie Edwards and we'll call him up to be sworn in as a lieutenant Sergeant Jamie HRI is a lifelong resident of Bridgewater and he earned his bachelor's degree from Villanova University he graduated from the Somerset County Police Academy in 2001 and has been with the Bridgewater Police Department for 25 years Jamie served in the Patrol Division he then became a school resource officer and as a detective uh before being promoted to s in
2017 he has also served as the Emergency Management coordinator since 2020 as an instructor in inent command first aid CPR and defibrillator he's also a life member of Martinville Rescue Squad he holds certifications as an EMT and as there are numerous Awards including the somerson County Police Academy instructor Achievement Award multiple letters of commendation and the exceptional service medal as our most senior Sergeant Jim's promotion to Lieutenant is well is a well-deserved
honor I also must mention that Jamie is a lifelong Philadelphia Eagles fan which I won't hold against him tonight I now invite Jamie and his girlfriend ran and daughter Jordan to come up to be sworn as a lieutenant
ready ready I your name I James Edwards Jr do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and I will bear true faith and Allegiance with the same and I will bear truth and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments
established in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people that I will Faithfully that I will faithfully impartially and justly perform impartially and justly perform all
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all right Sergeant Steven zeitner a 20-year veteran of the department earned his bachelor's degree from Mammoth University and graduated from the Union County Police Academy in 2004 he joined the Bridgewater Police Department in 2005 serving in Patrol and detective roles as well as mentoring new officers as a field training officer stepen is a certified drug recognition expert and
was promoted to Sergeant in April of 2022 since November 2022 he served as the detective sergeant in charge of detectives the ID officer and youth services throughout his career Steven has earned multiple Awards including exceptional service award several letters of commodation and a Spirit of Courage award from the burn prevention Network I now invite stevenh and his wife Melissa and children Tyler Alexa and Ryan to join him for swearing in as lieutenant
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I state your name I Steven zner do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and I will bear true faith and Allegiance and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States to the same and to the government estblished in the United
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okay officers Kennedy and stco as you step into your new roles as sergeants you will take on increased responsibilities providing leadership and mentorship to your squads your new duties will include leadership guiding and and managing your team of officers super supervision overseeing the daily
operation of your squad ensuring that tasks are completed efficiently and effectively training and development play a key role in the growth and development of your officers Community engagement building positive relationships with the community and fostering trust decision making making crucial decisions that affect both the safety of your squad and the community you serve as sergeants your influence and Authority will be significant leading by example maintaining integrity and prioritizing the well-being of both
your uh Squad and the community will be essential to your success officer Kennedy better known as tacpack Jack I had to get that in there officer Kennedy earned his associates degree from Ren Valley Community College he graduated from the somerson County Police Academy in December of 2007 and began his career with us in January 2008 over the years
he served in various Patrol squads before transitioning to a traffic officer role in 2013 Jack is supervised a crossing guard served as a radar instructor and investigated numerous fatal crashes he's also member of the Somerset County Accident reconstruction team and an inservice training coordinator specializing in ground fighting and combatives OC a aerosol projectiles and Firearms Jack is an assistant team leader on the county SW SWAT team a member of our honor guard and instructor
with the Citizen Police Academy Jack's accomplishments include the Bridgewater PD meow Merit exceptional service the CPR defib save Awards and a three-time recipient of the Mothers Against Drunk Driving distinguished service award he was uh reassigned to patrol in 2023 to prepare for this promotion and I now invite Jack with his wife Marissa and children Jackson and Lexi to come up and me swor as a sergeant
I state your name I John Kennedy do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and I will bear true faith and
allegiance to the same that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments established in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully and that I will faithfully impartially and justly perform impartially and justly perform all the duties of the Bridgewater Township Police Sergeant all the duties of a Bridgewater Township police Sergeant according to the best of my ability
according to the best of my ability so help me God so help me God e
all right since I'm promoting everybody tonight is we're going to be here a while right sir you save some for the next meeting all right next meeting officer statco graduated from the Ocean County Police Academy in 2011 and attended Mammoth and Rowan universities he began his career with the Seaside Heights Police Department before making the very wise decision to come to Bridgewater pday in 20 3 as a patrol officer Vincent quickly
demonstrated his skills who accelerate him to become a detective in his detective role he investigated serious crimes testified Superior Court and played a key role in background investigations for officer candidates Vincent is also a firearm instructor and has received two CPR save Awards two unit citations one letter recommendation now inviting Vincent and his wife Sarah and children Theodore Amilia to come up to be sworn as a sergeant
I your name I Vincent let do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the St of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New
Jersey and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States to the governments established in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully and that I will faithfully impartially and justly perform partially and justly perform all the duties of the Bridgewater town
of abili so help me God
all right that concludes uh the promotion part of it uh one last time please join me in congratulating each
one of these outstanding officers on their well-deserved promotions chief chief chief chief chief before you go I think we want to do a photograph with you and Command Staff and the four gentleman in the council yep I don't know
no go front Ty you're in charge I guess
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thank you you thank you
we'll take a brief break while uh those people who want to uh engage outside can do that we Mediterranean types don't have
that was well done Howard you're good at that that's you're going to Wally pit mat MCH H that's a fun part yeah I I said we'll take a brief break while give them an opportunity not rush anybody I do I'm good hanging in there now you're not nervous to right no no I'm okay
yeah well I I do have to say the introduction set the date for the final two of them yeah we have two of them are you I told Grace if I don't do it once in a while yeah especially with ordinances it's really good to keep your toes in the water yeah Bobo's here yes looking good Bob yes well I remember when uh I first joined
the council uh the ticker it's like a little bit out of little years
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you both look good I was gonna say you look really good sa looks the same now as when I met him he really does Kathy looks even younger yeah it's it's amazing I would never think Kathy was 80 something she does not look his wife does not look she's got good jeans awesome okay folks uh we're about to restart thank you
now one of the requirements of those people who came for the uh the ceremony they have to come back next week no ifs hands or butts okay uh proceeding to uh item eight on the agenda proclamations we have none item nine presentations we have none so far we're moving right along uh up to 10 meeting open to the public members of the public wishing to address the Council on any
matter will be allowed 3 minutes to speak unless there are unusual circumstances may I have a motion to open to the public please so moved second second second all those in favor I all right we are open to the public folks come on up I have a little sign there too uh would you please make sure you speak directly into the microphone and put your name and address on the sheet state your name and address please also for the record
hello um my name is Megan dowon I live at 807 porterway West um I came here tonight to just discuss two things uh the first being um councilman Kula talking about the affordable housing um excuse me a minute we need to get the
door back open okay okay yeah continue I know you shared your opinion last week um of zero housing and your reasons behind it and comparing things with Patterson I do truly appreciate your comments at the beginning of this meeting because I believed you were addressing my email so I do thank you and appreciate because sometimes it is hard to not see from another standpoints and being in someone else's shoes so I want to thank you for that and I
want to thank the rest of the counil do understand thank you so um I understand where you guys are coming from a lot of this land is not doable for housing whatsoever but I wanted to share even though you guys already know for the rest of the public or anyone online the opinion of someone who lives in affordable housing which is me um I grew up born and raised in Bridgewater and I am a single mom with two jobs um and a special need and because of affordable housing I was able
to stay in the town that I love and give my K Kids the Bridgewater School District Blue Ribbon education in fact even their special education really helped my son so I wanted to point out how it does help people regardless of where they live if they were in bridgew or out for single widowed um kids just graduating that are going out there's even people that have had illnesses in their family that have hard and would like to stay within
bridgew um their numbers that I ran which is pretty obvious to everyone as far as the economy and stuff but um based on what I came up with um councilman Kula I don't know so correct me if I'm wrong but I did a little research So based on your family and my family we both came to Bridgewater around roughly 1967 1970 I could be wrong with your family but I know mine was and the medium house priced in New Jersey was $23,400 which was 3.3 times a
$7,000 year salary I'm not exactly sure what Bridgewater was um in 202 23 the medium house price in Bridgewater was 581,000 which is a similar income to the price ratio which would mean that a family with an income of $176,000 which is slightly more than the current medium household income of Bridgewater of 170,000 and nearly the double medium household income of New Jersey for
99781 so because of that I feel like it's very difficult to keep up in this world to live so affordable housing does actually help people um I know at one point that the process for affordable housing with Bridgewater was in-house and run by um an employee and now it is outsourced to an attorney that being said the process Still Remains the Same and I don't know if the public is aare aare of the process of how to apply for it it's not
an easy process it's a long and arduous process of paperwork of financials of things you have to asore and even after you do that there is a very very long waiting list for housing which proves the point that it is needed unless you are going to be vigilant and continue to follow up with the township on where you are on that housing it's very hard to get into housing so it just kind of proves the point that it is necessary and needed for everyone um so I just wanted to put it
out there and just kind of put it as a reminder for the next phases I get the number is ridiculous I'm just hoping that you guys can remember that from the standpoint of someone from affordable housing of how important it is to have it in every Township so that's my only thing but I I thank you um my second thing is Sunrise Assisted Living I don't know if anyone has ever approached you guys I work parttime there also there is continual
complaints about parking there the parking lot is very tiny um so not only for employees but residents that live there and then families that come and visit it is a complete nightmare I don't know a lot about it when we are asked by management management refers us to come to Bridgewater Township to address it so I don't know if you guys have information or can guide me on where or who to speak to to find out more information about whether we can expand or can't and where to go what which um
Miss sunrise on 22 Sunrise Assisted the new one um it's about 5 years old it's on the other side of metti yeah no I know I know the one you mean yeah I I know that tiny parking I had I had been there cross from that life yes yeah I I was there stopped in there in December and I was told that there was a new administrator coming on board early this year I don't know if that's occurred yet I wanted to introduce myself and over at yeah mhm and um I've not connected with
that person they were going to have them contact me last I was told was that corporate was going to call over but I I can talk to and whatever you sure I think probably for someone if you'd like you certainly contact me but the U Township planner Katherine sarmed would probably be the the most appropriate person to um to contact to uh look at what are what options may exist from size of the site so forth so it's my card and uh her my email
address Cula uh one more thing I work very closely with the state of bondsman Paul ronsman I don't know if you know him he has helped me tremendously with my special needs child and my special need child is going to be turning 21 and thankfully I just gotone out this week has gotten into adult housing so if you want to talk afterwards I'll be more than happy to help you and set you up with him because he has gotten very involved with talking to places and advocating for my son so I'd like to help you if you want
to Megan thank you uh you one more time and you become a frequent flyer because that's yes I'm going to be a frequent flyer than you is there anyone else who wishes to address the count are there are there rows with extra leg room there that we don't know about there rows with extra leg room that's that's what you get for being the frequent flyer as part of my time this is former
long-term councilman Robert Albano serve for uh was it 21 or 24 years on the council very Faithfully 24 good evening gentlemen and lady I know all of you personally serve with you on some things and I'm here tonight to tell you that in addition to this one ful ceremony that we have is that many
people are not aware of how valuable and important the police are in my ability and the ability of all the rescue squads to perform our function the gentlemen and Ladies of our Police Department do in fact protect and serve to the highest standard and I can personally attest to that on many many occasions so my hat is off to them and we are very grateful
for the service that they provide that's number one number two please remember the rescue squad in your deliberations we are a valuable asset to the community and a very coste effective way of providing an essential service and the third thing I'm going to say is unlike many many people here here tonight they do not know how hard it is
to sit up there and how easy it is to stand here and complain so to that I say I compliment all of you Juliana Mike Howard Chris you forget my name no just Tim Alan my good friend Mike papis he's only a long time thank you all for your
service I appreciate it good night thank you thank you thank you Bob 17 B Bob when when uh Bob left the council he charged me with being the person who kept track of compliments to the council now over the 24 years that he served uh he said he received 24 compliments they the Council received 25 uh he asked me earli tonight and I said
s 17 so far in my 21 years so we're not some over yeah we're we're working yeah there was some overlap yes sir name and address please Manish Patel 41 Schaefer Road good to see everyone again um so again it's hard act to follow uh the promotions of uh our officers uh thank you thanks to all of them for what they do and what their families do and uh again hard act follow but uh please know that uh the residents of Bridgewater
appreciate everything you do uh we've got your backs cuz we know you have ours um so moving into uh the topic that I I I started on something about business development which I need to follow up with administrator um papis uh but I've been distracted with a few other things but I've also become interested in the affordable housing issue because uh my brain works as a problem solver um and I see we have a problem between zero and 2000 that's kind of how I look at it
right now uh so my questions we we don't have a problem between zero we have a commitment right now for 4177 which we will resolve between now and June when we have to hand off a a complex program to to the state so okay um and again I think someone said that um our councilman Cilla said that you're all eager to work on a solution just not the one that's being forced uh on on the township or many towns around us there
there seems to be a misconception here I think the the state has come up with a number and a process for us to address deficiencies we are one of uh over a 100 municipalities that has told the state their formula is incorrect uh and and gone through the proper process of telling them why we think their number is wrong and what we think our number is I don't think anyone up here today and I don't want to speak for anyone but I am confident from our discussion this
Council fully supports affordable housing what we struggle with is the process in which the state is pushing it upon municipalities using inaccurate data suggesting that we should build homes in the medians of Route 22 or build homes in the middle of a body of water a reservoir I mean it's just ludicrous the formulas they've used we we don't have a problem we've committed to a number of 4177 we passed a
resolution on that at the last council meeting we have until the end of June to determine how we're going to meet those numbers and we are currently working on that so you know I think it's important for the public to understand we've committed to a number we have met our legal obligation I will tell you that there was a report issued earlier this week There's many towns that did not comply with their legal obligation and now open themselves up to lawsuits we have we have protected ourselves from that and we are moving forward right thank you thank you for the
clarification and I I apologize if I come across as well we don't have a Town Square but let's say uh the court in the mall kind of the rube of the town on this subject but uh two questions I guess uh and I'll stay in arm in-arm with you guys uh on that whole subject of them suggesting to build something on Route 22's medians that just is clearly as you said impractical and absurd um but what I did want to ask is in advance of the report which I guess is going to outline where things can be done um or I
assume that'll be in the report that's published the the the the the next step in the process is we have to develop a plan as to how we're going to meet those 4177 units that will be done by June okay and and it will provide specific locations and number of units in each location it's not a pie in the sky it's not a we intend to it's these are the things where we expect either shovels in
the ground now don't forget we have 10 years in which to to meet the the obligation but we we get set in stone for June and and we're going to we're going we're going to work for it we are currently work for and have been working for it for a number of months and expect to meet it second question naive question is uh about the number um whether it's 400 whether it's 417 is the 47 it now might be lower might be lower
whatever that number is uh because then there's a multiplier uh for the builders typically right to be Prof might be a multip might be a multiplier that they need to be profitable if is there a possibility that there that we I mean with a builder or someone the right system or structure could figure out a way where we don't have to build the multiplier of that's what we're working towards it's an option so that was like I said that's a huge question in my head and I thought like again I think you
know everyone here by by multiplier do you mean a builder will say in order to get 200 affordable units I need to build a th homes yes yes and is it is that even on the table to try to come up with an approach that avoids that multiplier in in every instance where Builders have and a lot of Builders have approached to help help us with our commitment uh one of the things we would look for was the the highest Poss percent and generally for uh 20% is my is my Benchmark if if
someone isn't talking at least 20% set aside I'm not really interested in talking to them okay so that's a four to one I guess is what you're yes okay okay great I mean again I think from what I'm hearing the last couple of times I've been here now with the council and what I'm hearing from some of the folks that have come up that are far more knowledgeable about this subject than me um it'd be awesome if the council and the community did at some point when this report comes out work even closer together than just
this you know back and forth everything will be made known to the public you may REM you may recall a number of weeks back before we had the number I said you'll come on that date and we will have a number and we have and we will work for it and it will be a transparent process you will you will when you see it you'll be proud of it okay excellent thank you and uh Just One Last Thing Before I Go um last week I left you with a quote
from an Frank this week I have another one hope is important we must accept for uh we must accept finite disappointment but never lose infinite hope so we thank Dr Martin Luther King for that thank you thank you Mr anyone else wishing to address the council Mr President yes sir if I may uh just one thing that's also important to remember is the legislation that the township is working under or through uh allows the process that by the end of February any interested party
can challenge Bridgewater Township's figure and so so that is uh while while the township has committed to a number there is a process that that that can be challenged um and uh and then a resolution of that challenge would need to be uh finalized by the end of March so um we're hoping that the report the accompanying report that the council authorized that a company's resolution
would be sufficient to um prevent any challenge but we don't know as every other community doesn't know whether their number will be challenged thank you ah here's a frequent flyer hi Hi here's a frequent flyer happy New Year let me start with that I know it's been a while since I've been here um I'd also like to congratulate the members of our police force who were Advanced and ranked this evening um I thank them for their service in the past and I look
forward to them continuing to serve our community um okay let's see what do I have okay um there's a couple of things on the agenda tonight um an ordinance you do need to give us your name oh I'm so sorry I know you all know me Cy Franco 766 weac Road um so you have an item on the agenda introducing an ordinance to to increase the compensation for the judge and that is
based upon the merger last year of the ritton Court um the increase in that salary is fully being funded by riton was a previous salary from Raritan being transferred to Bridgewater and so we've been working with the ritan I thought in the past no we've been working with Somerville and then last year we added Ron we had to do a PR rate adjustment last year for I think it was three or four months this is to now uh adjust for the full full
year salary uh from Ran So the $332,000 difference between what was put into place on 125 via an ordinance and what is being proposed tonight is fully funded by Ritt and burrow in a shared services agreement so in addition to that 32 how much more is ran absorbed so so the 32 was only the pro-rated portion for the months this was a a a a challenging situation that we had I was
very involved in as the council president last year but um that was a pro-rated portion of the salary for the time period Ron came to our court last year this sets the uh full salary for for this year for ritton and that and it's the same with the court administrator and that is why the only two salaries you see on this ordinance that are actually being changed is for the judge Jud and the court administrator and I apologize I don't
remember what the original numbers were but it is fully funded by the Bureau of record okay so what portion is bridgew going to be responsible for I don't know if well in in December it was 126,000 19376 well that that's what you're saying the salary was in December that's what you you as a council approved that that included a portion of that as I explained that was fund funded by so you're un able to answer what I can't tell you off the top of my head what ours is no keep in mind we are a shared
no no I'm just I'm just questioning it because since you know 2003 when she was originally appointed um or 2002 she started off at 60,000 in 2023 she went up to 110 because she waved health insurance benefits so she got a $40,000 bump where any other employee of this Township who waves health insurance only gets a $5,000 bump in 24 she went up to 115 um then she went up to that was in
August then in December she went up to 126 and then now she's going up to so if the the August was 115 that's what Bridgewater is paying okay we took the action in December based on the few months this action is Now setting the salary for the full year the number is the same it's but but that's not really clear in the way you've presented it to the public in the ordinance or whatever the other thing that I seem to recall
was during those discussions um councilman nalis was very much about making sure that the ordinance was clear as to who was in these roles that we named the person and if indeed this is now a shared role I think that should be clearly delineated that this now includes raran that this includes Sumer that this includes this shared this growing shared services agreement before you move forward with an ordinance because even M even
councilman noralis in his wisdom um identified that in December Franco it's clearly stated in the heading that this is part of the shared service agreement with the burrow of Ron but also with this burrow of Somerville apparently Mrs Franco is getting to is that when we have a number as a as an annual salary for someone who is supported through a shared services agreement we should probably in the ordinance specify how much is coming from Bridgewater and how much is coming
from the other participant town I I don't think I excuse me I don't think that that is uh certainly in the past what has not occurred what what the township of Bridgewater has done is negotiated a contract or an agreement with the burough of Somerville for a dollar amount to carry out the court function and now with the burrow of ritton and the the the dollar amount there was not any breakdown in the agreement between Bridgewater and Somerville we look at the expenditures
we create a budget we ensure that the all of the staff salaries are covered if there needs to be an increase in staff because the increase of another court that all has been factored into the if I can finish that's all been factored into the the uh the dollar amount that the administration proposes to the council they approve and that the other governing body has to approve and and indeed I'm sure you all shared that information but you didn't share it with the public and that's why I'm here
tonight cuz I only looked at it going from $6,000 5 years ago to $158,000 tonight so that's where I'm concerned because yeah you have these lovely numbers behind you but you don't share them there is no transparency I'm not sure I understand the question Miss Franco I'm not you don't understand the fact that I didn't understand that you went from 12 5,000 to $158,000 in less than two
months um and there was really no clear explanation that ridan in in any of the materials that were sent out that's not the case when when the the public when the counil when the council was approving no I'm talking about to the public not what the council got you're not letting me finish when the council considered the amendment last year the end of last year it was after the shared court agreement with the B Ron was approved effective October 1st and the
the additional compensation for the judge and for the court administrator were captured within the agreement and the the additional expense that is being uh uh um Dem uh uh illustrated by The increased cost or increased compensation for the judge and the court administrator was incorporated into the fees that the burough of Ron is is paying oh okay all I can all I'm asking
is that you you have a whole lot of information okay you do the you share it with the council when it comes out in an agenda when we look up the ordinances that are attached the proposed ordinance proposed resolutions that clarification is not there perhaps if it was to the detail that you're providing tonight because I asked the question perhaps I wouldn't have come and asked the question but when the but when the council approved the the ordinance to go
into to have a shared court with the bon no the that was explained to the council at the public meeting that the that the additional uh uh Revenue that we would be receiving to cover the addition of the bur of R to the municipal shared Municipal Court will be U uh covered in uh or or will cover the additional cost of any additional staff or additional
compensation for the administrator and the judge Mr but what Mr councilman kers just said was the increase to 125 covered that inclusion of rarin for that portion of the year because that was for three months okay so I I appreciate our our payroll no let me finish I appreciate your explanation here tonight what I'm saying is no you don't appreciate out the information excuse me excuse me I appreciate and I don't need any further explanation here tonight you have answered my question
what I'm saying is the way you publish this for the public does leaves many questions unanswered and that's why I came tonight to get those questions answered you have now answered them I thank you for that we can end that topic and I can move on to my next issue thank you you are also introducing an or a resolution that will be this will be a oneand done for emergency temporary Appropriations
for current funds of $1,200,000 which brings the 2025 year-to-date temporary Appropriations to $18 million this represents uh 37 something percent 28% of the budget we are only five weeks into the Year this this question comes up each and every year and the question is hey how if you're
only one month or two month in how can you have 38% our our expenses are not exactly linear it's not the case that we can take one 12th of everything we are statutorily required to to create a temporary budget and and the state provides an a percentage for that but that anything over and above that we have to make sure that that we can pay our bills so uh okay because a month ago you approved
27% as an appropriation and I would have thought that at that time you would have anticipated what those first quarter expenses would be that you wouldn't wait until a month later into the you know fiscal year we are in a fiscal year you you know and we don't have a budget and you know so my concern is what is that final budget going to look like if all right we don't have a budget yet and we won't for several months well
I do I'm not going to try to address when the budget is going is going to be presented because that always becomes a hot button night well well let me say this so I'm going to end with these two things one is according to a local Finance notice 202 24-20 it revises this um calendar year 2025 budget deadline extensions and this is for local Municipal governments um um okay Municipal budgets who operate under
the mayor council wner Act date of transmission of budget to govern body extended from January 17th to February 28th so I would hope that the administration will have presented you with a budget by February 28th submission of the municipal annual financial statement deadline is extended to March 7th the municipal introduction and approval of budget extended from February 10th to March 31st and the adoption date is extended from March
20th to April 30th I therefore expect that a budget will have been made available and introduced no later than March 30th in order that it can be approved no later than April 30th that is according to what thank the state government has thank you stated thank you very much oh I'm sorry one last maybe one or two more things um a lot of
people are talking about affordable housing I know you're working on it I know you're diligent I have two questions because I keep hearing different numbers there's the 470 417 whatever we end up with there that in my understanding is inclusive of those affordable housing units that we already have in place correct that is correct okay so it's not 400 more units no it is 400 more we have we have well over 1100 now it it is
4177 new affordable housing units in addition to the 160 or whatever that are already on the books there's 1100 on the books yes in addition to the 11 the prior three rounds there's 1100 on the books and now the state wanted us to to get 470 by building it in the middle of Route 22 in the middle of the reservoir we Dr and I've stated in the past the the state came up with a number some 80 some odd thousand houses and then they came out and they said all right now we're going to allocate them around and
the court did that exactly that and we wound up with a number uh and that's and that's what we're trying to address their number to us was 474 so so the ones that we've promised that haven't been built yet okay um under previous things are those like thrown away which which ones are you speaking of oh I don't know the ones on like Fender Avenue the the high don't out the old COA Arrangement was
thrown out entirely this is round four and it's an entirely new process it does not as far as I know subject to the attorney stab sticking me in the ribs uh build on what we had before it okay so so I don't know if it was like Westwood or west doore there was there were a couple of different projects that had been on paper but never built the uh 40 units that were to be part of the Center of Excellence are now as part of the high and they have been fully um
approved and I think most if not all have been occupied okay so will those fall under those that is from the last round okay now the other ones that were never built that's part of the last round we're still obligated to meet that in addition okay okay thank no I appreciate that clarification because I did not realize that and that's a much more significant challenge to us um because there are so many residents who are concerned and interested would this Council would this Administration invite
members of the public to either a you know town meeting or develop a task group to you know come up with ideas and share things you know you have a woman who lives in affordable housing who who experiences it from that side you know would that be something you would consider you don't have to answer me now it's just I'm not going to okay and to thank you for your comments and the $4 million for Camp Cromwell I'm concerned did we get that
money will we get that money with the freeze in Washington we expect that we would get it we have not received it yet is it is being administered through Department of Housing and Urban Development uh our staff is regularly in uh contact with u their representative and Congressman kan's office to ensure that uh the bureaucratic process that we have to follow is adhered to and we're we're confident that we will receive it okay
cuz I understand like no checks are being written for any grants so that's just what I hear thank you thank you very much again happy New Year and thank you for your time anyone else wishing to address the council another frequent fer that's why you said on the aisle right uh Jen lockran uh faling Court Bridgewater um so last week I felt the
air get sucked out of the room when I used the number like 10 to one um and I was shocked because ID had conversations and I followed up and I couldn't figure out why that number like was the number I was thinking of and the reason was because in another you know business session um that number came up as being a number that is associated with affordable housing so I guess my question is um you know is 20% like what
all municipality sort of set as their standard or is that just a goal that Bridgewater has all negotiable there we have no idea what other towns commit to some may have more I I doubt it uh and some may have less uh we we know what what basically where we would like to get to in terms of a setback uh but that is individually negotiated with any and every Builder who comes before the
organization to try to build something if if you look at Hyatt House we actually got 40% there m they built 100 Apartments we got 40 you know wasn't a 10: one it was a 10 to four ratio so it you know what what you get from one developer can be different than what you get from another developer generally you're going to get at least 10% but if there's a lot of interest you know you say you know you it's a negotiation for lack of a better
term okay um I don't know if I think I'm confusing the numbers so when I said 10 to one I meant that 10 other units would be built for every okay I just want no but so to that point you know use h house was 100 units so and they actually for every 10 that they have four of them are affordable housing so that was a 10 to4 ratio now now you can see why it's so confusing for yeah understood regular
people and the rules change every round what you know there's yes okay um well I will be quick I I did want to acknowledge the um promotions of the officers that was a really wonderful uh ceremony and uh I wanted to bring up that the police department is doing their community policing program and one of the officers that my I I went on two ride alongs uh the first one was with um now sergeant John Kennedy and it was fantastic except nothing happened so
they they sent me on another one where also nothing happened but um but he he's wonderful Chief can we have a ride with everyone from now on um so I just I just wanted to mention that because the program was really great and um and I hope to see it continue and I will do my part in getting the word out so I hope everybody else does too and that was it that's all I had so thank you thank you anyone else wishing to address the council seeing no action move to close public input please make
that motion second M Mr President in favor I I president since the chief is here I'm wondering if he could come up and just uh highlight the um citizens Police Academy that's that's uh being that's planned put them on the spot there it's a uh ninee program where we uh go through all aspects of policing uh we start out talking about
the Constitution and where we get our Authority as police officers uh we cover motor vehicle stops use of force Pursuit uh we certify everybody in uh CPR and first aid and defib uh we put everybody through a use of force scenarios uh so they know what it's like when we're going through a door they gets their heartbeat going and then finally like Jennifer said we do uh ride alongs where as long as they want to
they don't have to they can go on a tour Duty with an officer and see what happens could you talk about the dates that are planned for this year and if there's still opportunity for people to apply that are Township residents absolutely um they have until the end of February to apply uh send the uh there's an application on our website um it will goes they can send it to Sergeant Jack Kennedy at J Kennedy Bridgewater nj.gov
and the first night will be March 6 which is a Thursday and it will be consecutive Thursdays until May 1st going from 6:30 to 8:30 usually we get a lot of questions so it does go a little bit longer sometimes good have a good night thanks Chief okay moving to uh item 11 public hearings and final action on ordinances there there is none moving to 12 interest uction of ordinance 12a an ordinance amending chapter 10 Municipal
Court section 10-4 judge term of office and section 106 functions Powers duties and jurisdiction of the municipal code of the township of Bridge Water to remove obsolete statutory ref references and we owe a vote of thanks for Mr Corsini going back and uh cleaning out decades old language continuing effort council president to leave the code better than I found it good man so uh
now any questions uh for Mr corini on 12a if not could I have a motion to introduce please brief comment um I know there was a lot of discussion on TW um I'm sorry TW refra I'll take that back 12 AI will move to introduce I'll my second second any other discussion okay a roll call on a motion to introduce please councilman kers yes Council Cilla yes councilman ring yes council
president or Galis yes and could you set the date please final action is scheduled for February 20th 2025 at 7:30 here in the municipal courtroom public inspection of the ordinance is available on the township website bulletin board and through the clerk's office thank you okay moving to 12b an Ord in setting the compensation of the mayor Township council members department heads and
certain other Municipal Employees pursuant to chapter 374 of the public laws of 1985 njsa 2A colon 809 njsa 2A colon 8-13 NJ njsa 40a colon -165 njsa 40a colon 9-35 and njsa 40a colon 9-46 and chapter 95 of the public laws
of 1996 and amend the salaries of the municipal court judge and the court clerk administrator to reflect the township shared service agreement for municipal court services with the burrow of Raritan uh just so everyone is Avail understands the names this is for judge house and administrator Jenny Peterson now could I have a uh a motion
to introduce sure okay to and a second okay we're now open for suggestions and comments just I know there was a lot of discussion this during the open public comment and I you know the the ordinance itself when one takes the time to read it talks about the shared services it specifically addresses the ordinance that was done in December on a pro-rated basis and further talks about the need to effectuate the adjustments for 2025 I think it spells out very clearly
what we're doing here um I think Mr Corsini is going to add a comment councilman ring I don't know how how if I could have been any planer when I wrote the ordinance I appreciate Miss Franco's comments but I don't know if I could have been any planer so I know there was a lot of passion about it but I I think the ordinance does spell out for the Public's benefit exactly what we're doing and I'm happy to introduce it and just another comment I mean this is an exceptionally simple situation that seems to be made unnecessarily complex these are the salaries for these two positions we needed to do an adjustment in 2024 because it was a
these were two individuals that were in the role for 3 months our payroll person had to know how much to pay them so that's what we did in late 24 we're now taking this action so they'll be properly paid in 2025 it's no more complex and no simpler than that Council MERS if you compare this ordinance to to its predecessor and the typical one that we do each year you will find that the uh the language in this ordinance is significantly uh more verbose because of
the nature of it I I did the best I could so right right what we're trying to solve is exceptionally simple our payroll person has to know how much to pay these two individuals and that's what we're doing thank you any any other discussion if not may I have a roll call on introduction please councilman kers yes councilman Cilla yes councilman ring yes council president or Gallas yes and setting the date please final action is scheduled for February 20th 2025 at 7:30 p.m. here in the M Municipal courtroom
public inspection of the ordinance is available on the township website bulletin board and through the clerk's office thank you moving to resolutions 13A authorizing the continuation of Public Health Services of Middlebrook Regional Health commission for the year 2025 at a total cost of $17,988 pursuant to the requirements of njsa 6 3-1 at to be funded from the Health and Human Services account no
moved second second is there any discussion on this okay roll call please on councilman kers yes councilman Cilla yes councilman ring yes council president or gallis yes 13B authorization to execute an an agreement with the Board of Commissioners of Somerset County for 2025 recycling in an amount not to exceed
$467,900 recycling Grant the 2024 recycling Grant and the current recycling Grant could I have a motion on 13B please I'm happy to move it I just as long are we comfortable with the 16955 yes uh Mr Dorado has been involved in that just for the council's benefit
uh the total cost additional cost to our budget for 2025 amounts to $10,100 I'll move it uh second I'll second any additional discussion yeah the only discussion I'll just briefly state is I've repeatedly expressed concern about um the quality of the recycling program um I continue to have those concerns unfortunately I don't have a better alternative we are legally required to do this so um yet
another uh instance where we uh are essentially mandated to take this action okay any other comments could I have a roll call 13B please councilman Kur yes councilman cordilla yes councilman ring yes council president or Gallas yes 13 c a resolution providing for emergency temporary Appropriations for current fund 1,2,4 64 no cense which brings the 2025
year to date temporary appro Appropriations to18 million 845 735 and 98 uh Mr papus did you have any more more comments to offer uh just that the vast majority of this is for our U insurance coverage yes okay uh motion on 13 C I'll make that motion second I'll second there are no
additional comments could I have a roll call please councilman kers yes councilman cordilla yes councilman ring yes council president oralis yes 13d establishes the employee standard mileage reimbursement rate for Approved Township business as set by the Internal Revenue Service now anyone who has seen an earlier version this might have noted that there was a 20 stated 25 and 2025 uh specifically what we're doing is
saying that we pay based on the IRS rate and and there would be no need to continue for Council action each and every year to Simply State that's what we do we follow the IRS R I know we're required to do this do we actually have many people we pay mileage to it's very limited it's very limited they usually would have to use a Township vehicle yeah the rate is 70 cents I just did an expense report for my trip last week yep but the rate changes every year can
I have a motion on 13d please uh second please second it uh if there are no additional comments roll call 13d councilman kers yes councilman Cilla yes councilman ring yes council president Nur Galis yes uh 13e authorizing an additional $75,000 to RJM landscape and design LLC of 82 1 parsonage Hill Drive Branchburg NJ 08876 for snow removal services in an
amount not to exceed $150,000 for the 2024 d225 winter season to be funded from the 2025 the temporary Municipal budget snow removal account 5-01 26 29323 uh anybody looks out the door I'm sure want to support this could I have a motion please happy to support it and and I'll make that motion I just I guess my question is okay hold that until I get a second I'll second so we can have
a discussion does this do we have you know I guess where I'm going with this is there's talk of depending upon which forecast you listen to Saturday night we're looking at 3 to eight to I guess my question is do we have extra money in here still or is this just bringing us back to I think this is bringing us close to where we are and you know if needed we'll come back but we're trying not to ask for more unless it's needed understood but as needed we're going to plow the theow the road we're going to
have to address not the council but we do plow the streets and salt where necessary but there is a benchmark depending on the height of the the snow depth of the snow I should say uh which will probably be recognized very shortly and the one of thing with the certain parts of town on the mountains elevations there's application of salt there before there are in some of the lower elevations so uh it depends Mr Shimp looks at this very carefully they follow the weather they have the police
are assisting Us in determining where it's safe or not safe to drive so it's a um very U coordinated uh effort I I assume steep slopes get priority repeated applications when this Like Mine Road was actually BR yesterday in advance of the storm okay and Mr President if I can offer a compliment to the DPW because what occurred overnight or into the early hours this morning was particularly challenging because there wasn't much snow there was um ice and
rain and and um and then there was no sunshine um probably a perfect storm for challenging conditions and uh I think under the circumstance um the the the roads remained as as safe as could be reasonably expected and that's certainly what we value here in Bridgewater Township okay if there are no other comments 13e roll call please councilman kers yes councilman cordilla yes councilman ring yes council president or Gallas yes uh F authorization approving
final list of volunteer members of the Bridgewater first aid and rescue squads who qualify for contributions now the contribution right now is $1,763 it originally started years ago at150 but anyway for the year 2024 under the township loap which stands for length of service award program in the township of Bridgewater County of su set to be funded from the 2024 loap account so moved second please second okay any
comment besides thanks to all our many many volunteers who spend countless hours training and and and working on calls I just thought Bob was going to stay for that item on the agenda he probably went out on a call oh all right um roll call councilman kers yes councilman cordilla yes councilman ring yes council president or Gallas yes we're now moving to uh close session
we've completed the the regular agenda uh let me read 14 which is a be it resolved that by Township or Township Council that this body will now hold a closed meeting to con for contract negotiations on affordable housing when and if matters discussed become public record this will be remain known to the public at that time the public is excluded from said meeting and further notice thereof is dispersed dispensed with all in accordance with sections 8
and 4A of the open public meeting I do not anticipate any action of this body uh after the closed session so we will simply adjourn at that point could I have a motion go to close second second all those in favor I all right we are closed uh as soon as the public leaves have a good
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one well I think we might the first well that's like so as we officers especially Jamie it is because I work with that used to be done in the afternoon and uh but doing it at council meeting