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>> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> Welcome to today's schoolboard workshop. This workshop of the school board of Broward County, Florida is now called to order. To ensure a safe and productive environment, please note the clearly
marked emergency exits. Do not block exit doors and all attendees must be seated except for media. Once the room reaches capacity, attendees will be directed to the overflow area. If the fire alarm sounds, exit the room calmly. Continue outside the building and remain there until authorities give clearance to return. Thank you for your
cooperation. Board member Bulman will now introduce her school to lead us in the pledge of allegiance to the flag. Miss Bulman. Thank you, chair. I am thrilled to introduce the Quest Center students as they recite
the pledge of allegiance accompanied by sign language. And I'd like to give a special thank you to Principal Swift, assistant principal Humphrey, and to our wonderful Dr. Laz who uh does such great
work with the students and the rest of the Quest Center staff. And thank you to Beacon for um their excellent video production and doing this. I pledge aliance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. >> One nation under God, >> indivisible, with liberty >> and justice for all.
>> [applause] >> That was good. That's some good Morning America stuff right there. >> What a beautiful way to start the day. >> Absolutely. >> That was amazing. Um, thank you to the Quest Center and Miss Bulman for organizing that and
Beacon. Um, so I've requested a moment moment of silence for Miss Jasmine Robinson from Oakland Park Elementary who uh tragically passed um in the in the last few weeks. Um as a teacher and a coach, uh Jasmine inspired greatness
and believed that all students could achieve their highest potential. She was a coach, mentor, and friend to many. I please ask that you keep her family, friends, community, and Oakland Park Elementary in your prayers.
Thank you. As we begin, we reaffirm our strategic plan goal, 100% proficiency for all students, guided by our vision, educating today's students to succeed in tomorrow's world. And as an A-rated district, we remain committed to sustaining this achievement while
empowering every student to reach their highest potential. Our theme this year is believe, empower, achieve one Broward. We will soon hear from our register registered public speakers. We ask that decorum be maintained in civility and respect be shown during public comment. Our general counsel will
assist the chair in maintaining decorum during this period. We also want to remind our public speakers of the rules and expectations regarding the agenda public comment portion of this workshop as well as board policy. Attorney Dupri Bruno, please explain the rules of public comment. >> Thank you, Madam Chair, and good
morning. Public comment is governed by schoolboard policy 1020 and is intended to provide input on the board's duties, decisions, and the overall operation of the school district. The school board is viewpoint neutral during public comment. For school board policy 1020, public comment procedures are as follows.
Speakers must state their name, city of residence, and whether they are a lobbyist before beginning their remarks. All remarks must be directed to the board as a whole. The board will not respond to or engage with speakers during public comment and no action will be taken unless the item is on the
agenda. During the agenda speaking time for public comment, speakers will have up to three minutes per item and up to one minute. My apologies. This is a um workshop, so there won't be any motion. Per meeting with an additional one minute. The chair
may adjust the order of speakers if needed. A visible timer will be used and the microphone may be turned off when the time expires. Speakers must limit their comments to matters related to the schoolboard business and for agenda items must remain relevant to the specific item. Comments may not address
matters that are pending litigation, quasi judicial proceedings, active investigations, or administrative hearings. Solicitation and lobbying activities must comply with applicable school board policies. Abusive language defined as profanity, threatening, or name calling is prohibited. Addition to
clapping, hissing, or booing, shouting, yelling, or other disruptions from the audience are not allowed. Speakers who fail to follow proper decorum in the chambers will be ruled out of order by the board chair. Failure to comply may result in the microphone being turned off or a recess being called after a
warning. The chair may also direct removal from the meeting by law enforcement or the sergeant-at-arms. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Attorney Dupree Bruno. The board wants to hear from you and we appreciate your cooperation in maintaining a respectful, orderly, and productive environment. We will now
proceed with the agenda. Today's workshop will operate in accordance with schoolboard policy 1020 and the board will review the items as advertised and presented by the superintendent. Our first item is committee reports. Uh before we begin I have a question. Um it
is it was brought to my attention that uh so historically the advisory chairs are notified um about the committee reports ahead of time. An email is sent out. Um, several advisory members reached out to me this morning to let me know that they did not receive an email.
Dr. Hepern, are you aware um if the usual communication that's sent to advisory chairs was sent or not? >> U, Mr. Hill, if you have any knowledge. >> I I do not have any knowledge that it that it was sent out. However, we've
said in the past multiple times as to not get reliant on those emails. The committee reports are always on the first Tuesday or first workshop of every month as well as the agenda is released every two weeks. So although we've sent out those emails in the past, they weren't a continuous thing and we
basically did, you know, let the community know, please do not rely or become reluctant on those those emails as basically the agenda as well as schoolboard policy 1020 does say that the first workshop of every month um will host a committee reports item. >> Okay. I would just say, you know, like I
I and I get that it's summer and and people are taking time off and all of that. Um I I think that people get used to what we let them get used to, right? So if we've been sending these emails every month um and then we don't
I think it sends a mixed message but um so I think we either you know staff needs to decide either we will communicate every month about these meetings ahead of time um or that we won't. Um so with that I will begin and I think that it kind of explains the
absence of several of our chairs. Um, so just as a reminder, each committee will have five minutes. Um, and then we'll go to board discussion. Board members will call on chairs as they as they see fit. Um, so first up, we I have audit
committee who I received a communication from that they will not be here. I don't see that our student adviserss are here. Um, district advisory council, please add five minutes to the clock. Good morning, chair, board members,
superintendent, members of the public. My name is Cynthia Dominique. I'm the chair of district advisory council. We did not have um well, we had a transition meeting in June preparing for the upcoming school year. We have our calendar set for the school year. So, we will be sending that out to our liaison
to make sure they coordinate and notice those meetings properly. Um, we also have a training scheduled for September that will be for all school advisory forum chairs so that they can come learn
how to perform their role, advocate sunshine law, Robert's rules and all things um, school advisory related. Um we would like to continue working with the superintendent and the finance department to facilitate the budget
training um as that has shown um great impacts with helping staff chairs as they review their school budgets and sign off on them. Um there are lots of recommendations we provided over the um previous school
year that I'm going to send to you all. There are some outstanding items for us to follow up on. Um, one of which is testing. Uh, earlier this year, the board gave direction to academics to come back with a testing workshop, I
believe in the end of May, beginning of June. That hasn't happened. So, I'd like to know where we stand because the direction was to overhaul and reduce testing. Um, and really look at which tests provide the most valuable data.
Um, so if you could follow up on that, we'd appreciate it. We continue to have uh discussions about technology, screen time and AI. We do have a representative from district advisory council that is working with the family forum that
includes um a representative from technology parent and community involvement task force. Um I did reach out to Dr. Con in the last couple weeks and requested that DAC have a seat on the AI task force. Currently, many don't
know who exactly is on it or where the representation is coming from. Um, but certainly these are conversations we we should continue because overwhelmingly parents and teachers feel like there's still too much testing, still too much technology, especially in elementary
schools in our p and in our primary grades. Um, I had the opportunity to visit several schools, which I I do as district advisory council chair. Um, one of the one of the facilities that I visited recently was Markham
and I was saddened to learn that construction likely will not even begin to take place until next summer. Um, this school has been waiting on uh a building for several years now. Um the
land was cleared, the cooling plant was um constructed, but apparently there hasn't been an RFP for construction yet. Um so we'd like an update on that. There were some maintenance issues that needed
to be addressed which um Mr. Dorset was there and he said they it would be taken care of. There was some leaks in some of the modulars um and then some of the external coverings needed attention as well. And then for Margate Middle, um that is
going well. They're making sure that that school is safe for the start of next school year. Um some of the things that needed to be addressed were um sinks inside of the locker rooms and um some other outstanding items for one of
the hallway bathrooms. So, we'd like an update on that. I know that we're going to be talking about redefining later. I will not be there. However, um I did see policy 8010 attached. And when we look at policy 8010 and we look at um the definition of fish fish capacity, it
focuses primarily on um building space but not necessarily instructional and functional space. And when we look at the definition of overenrollment within that policy, it states that it utilizes gross fish
capacity, but also takes into account class size maximums and the instructional use of the space. But when we look at the definition for underenrolled, right, we don't make those same considerations. And I think that we certainly should because we have
many schools with um special programs um that limit uh usable space uh gifted our clusters. Um so I think that that's just something that we consider as we have conversations for redefining. I would
absolutely love going forward um to have a round table with the superintendent and his cabinet with our leadership so that everyone can understand what each department does and how we collaborate together to be able to achieve our mission which is educating our students
to the best of our abilities. Thank you. >> Thank you. Next up I have north area, central area, south area, diversity committee, es advisory council.
Thank you. Good morning and thank you for noting the um the email point. I think it's um Mr. Hill was talking when you you responded um madame chair but it is an important point. There are a number of new chairs of course who are not aware as well of the um first
workshop in every month um rule. They will not have studied policy 1020 um to discover when they're meant to be here or or when they're invited to be here. Uh and of course it's July. So thank you for noting the need for that email. It's always been helpful before to have one.
Um congratulations to everybody um on the um splendid Agrade again for the third year in a row. Um it's a great indictment of all the hard work by staff and students. Um I want to spend some time here today because of course we haven't met since the last uh we haven't
met as advisories um over the summer but there are a number of motions that we have outstanding and I know collectively as chairs as well we have brought forward and we work really hard on um suggestions for policy what's the policy
uh the other one policy 1020 on um how the board might productively be able to meet um a a a a refined process of um when we're bringing recommendations to you and how we get response uh even if that response is you know that you don't
favor the recommendation. Um, so over the course of the year we have a number of missed motions and I note that not a single person is looking at me. So I hope anybody's actually listening because I see folks on their phones and on their laptops and I think it's rude. But anyway, one of the missed motions um that we didn't get response was was to
please reconsider the loss of the compliance director for ESSE. It is an absolutely critical role. Um the board um did not favor the superintendent's recommendation which was to uh keep an ESC compliance director. He had come up
with a way of keeping all staff in the leadership team in the ESSE department without actually losing anybody from it and losing that wisdom and experience. And then a different board resolution came along that changed that. We lost the compliance director or be it um kept
an assistant compliance director. So you had an assistant to a position that no longer existed. Um and now you've lost that person altogether regrettably. And I think we are very weak now on uh compliance when that's a job that reg that um requires definitely a full-time
person um if not as the superintendent noted himself more than one full-time person. Um uh there was good feedback from um parents about ESY extended school year for students with disabilities. There was also some um
criticism or or notes that um it's always good to take back and and feedback. um so it can be improved for the following year. But I think a number well I know that a number of parents saw that there were going to be 15 or so students in their class um or heard that there were um and these is for um ESSE
self-contained classes and therefore didn't send their kids and in actual fact 15 kids were rostered for classes but there was no intention of actually having 15 kids in the classes. there was a an accommodation being made for the fact that not all of those 15 were
expected to turn up. But it became a kind of um self-destructive loop because parents thought, well, I'm not having my kid in a class of 15 uh ESE class. Therefore, I won't send my kid to ESY. Um um focus remains an issue. I always
bring it up every time. Um we still have two and a half or two years after you brought in focus. still no deliverance on the uh catchphrase that was um told to us at the time that um all your kids stuff will be in one place. No, it isn't. And um it's still deficient for
um IEP uh case management, but also there's still no uh 504 plans in the focus system. Um what else we have? Um uh renewal of uh private provider um
accreditation. And these are people like um registered behavior technicians um who support kids. Um there has been problems with their um accredititation lapsing before the end of the academic year um and therefore um they're not
accredited for ESY. I'd suggest a system whereby when they get accredited they do so for an academic year to include ESY. Um uh what else? Elopement. I was thrilled that 22 of our recommendations from ESA advisory were adopted in the new draft
elopement plan. I've not seen the finalized elopement plan. It would be good to have um cameras in classrooms. Again, at the beginning of this um uh of the last school year, we were told that there would that um you would reopen the policy on cameras in classrooms to make
some improvements. We had suggested that has not happened. It would be good to do. Um and lots of other motions again like Cynthia I sent to you. We would love response to motions even if that response is we've got no interest. Thank you.
Thank you. Esau Leadership Council, Facilities Task Force, Gifted Advisory Council, Green Advisory Committee, Human Relations Committee, Multilingual Advisory Committee,
Parent Community Involvement Task Force, Small Business Advisory Committee. >> Good morning. I'm Michelle Singer with the Small Business Advisory Committee. I'm a little nervous, so I apologize in advance. Our committee started by uh our committee started our meeting by
congratulating Miss Levina Freeman on her new role as department manager and Mr. Michael Scott with his transition to the procurement department. Mr. Scott reported that the EDOC department participated in 47 outreach events during the year, resulting in an
increase to 849 certified vendors, up from around 600. Our committee also acknowledged the efforts of Diana Agenar for outreach leadership and the success of her small business mixer event. We discussed featuring vendor success stories during board meetings and
possibly inviting vendors to share their experiences or using visual displays such as the lobby screen to highlight outreach events and achievements. Marie Compass, our chairperson, updated us on the Shark Tank pilot at Sunrise Middle, the scheduling of a planning
meeting, and ongoing efforts to engage additional schools and presenters for the upcoming year. We talked about the implications of Broward County vendor registration on committee membership, clarified policy interpretations, and strategized on filling committee vacancies, including outreach to
potential new members and the waiver process. We would like to fill all our vacancies on the small business advisory committee, but finding individuals willing to volunteer who are not Broward County school vendors is difficult. discussing a V waiver will help us not
only help our committee but others as well. Thank you very much for your time and letting me serve on this committee. Thank you so much. Um technology advisory committee. All right. Are there any board remarks
on any committee items? Mr. Seivera. First off, Miss Singer, well done. It was an informative report. Well, well read into the record. We're not that scary to address. Well, most of us are not that scary to address. Some of us are, but uh I think
you did a a great job. So, kudos to you and thank you for your service on the committee. Um I'd like to chair, if I may, address uh ESC advisory.
We've heard several times now um from Miss from Jackie coming in about the uh compliance director and how disappointed she was in the elimination of that position. Mr. Superintendent, when was the formal termination date for that
position >> on the new org chart when in um was in implemented? July 1st. uh individuals or roles on the org chart u were sunseted June 30th to start with a new org chart July 1. So, I know that
we're only a couple weeks into um July and I also realize that we're in the summer, but um I'd like to ask Mr. come if I can. Have you noticed any increase any issues or um anything directly
related to the fact that this compliance director uh position was removed uh on the recent ORC chart, which of course I proudly voted against, but um in your position as ESC advisory council, I just like to know, have you seen anything in
the last couple weeks that you can directly attribute to this position being removed? Uh, no. I've been away for nine of those two weeks. Um, but there are the three C's in in um BCPS that I would identify
as three key problems or for ESSE and that's compliance, communication, and customer service. Compliance is one of the key areas as the superintendent himself acknowledged when he put forward the um the org chart that you didn't just need a compliance director, you
needed a compliance director and an assistant and you the board eliminated the compliance director and was left with just the assistant and my understanding is that the person who was the compliance director has now exited
BCPS altogether. Um so we have lost um more than just a position. We've lost a person um there and and I think the criticality of compliance in ESSE is underestimated if it was ever felt that that was going to be a good move. It's
critical and it will impact because compliance is already a tumultuous area. >> I thank you for that and I'm going to I'm going to give you a little bit of homework. I'm going to ask ma'am that you could at least keep me up to breast. feel free to to include my colleagues as well in your professional opinion.
Obviously, we know you are very experienced in this area and you've chaired this council for um long time. So, um I'm going to ask that you keep us up to speed and if you notice um an alarming uptick in compliance issues, uh
I'd like to be informed of that because I do think that this issue does ultimately need to be revisited and uh I'd like some data um on your end just to be able to support the um the position of potentially bringing this back. Thank you. >> Thank you. Please be concerned about the
already proliferation of of compliance issues that are a problem. Thank you. I'm concerned about much with this district as you know and I can assure you ESC is uh on my list of concerns that I'm going to continue to work for the betterment of our entire district. But thank you.
>> Thank you Dr. Zean. >> Thank you chair. Appreciate that. Um to Miss Dominique, thank you for the reminder about uh the assessments. You know this board is actually very specific in what we asked for. Not general as you posisted. We said 50% reduction in elementary school and that
report's coming out this week, I'm told. So, I'm looking forward to uh seeing what that answer is. Just to answer your question, um but I know that the team that's been put together was a pretty broad team and included uh principles, directors, um experts, um in formative
testing and assessments to try and come up with a gradeby-grade solution. And so, uh we'll all become aware of that uh later this week, I'm sure. I also am mindful of your discussion. Would you tell me a little bit more about the training that you do with other chairs
of advisory uh committee members? Um in particular, I'm curious what day of the week, what time is it? How long does it last? >> So, it's morphed. Um, when I first started several years ago as a North Area Advisory Chair, I
realized that there was a lot I had to figure out on my own. Um, and so we we have a manual that we update periodically. We have a list of acronyms because sitting in these meetings sometimes we often don't, you know, the
general public doesn't understand what's happening. So, we have a list of acronyms that we provide them. But, we go through Robert's rules of orders. We reinforce that. We um we help to demonstrate practical use of them. We go through making motions um because that's
a source of anxiety for many people if they're not accustomed to it. Um we talk about um how to build their agenda, what sort of topics, you know, as they're having conversations at their schools, in the carline, in the community, and
they're hearing concerns that drives their agenda. It it's the same as what we bring up here to you. It's it's based on what we're hearing a majority of things that are occurring throughout the district, not just singular um instances. Um we teach them how to draft
emails to board members and how to um communicate with business partners and and legislatively and and finding other ways to just meet the needs of their school. What we find overall is just people are afraid to step into these roles because they feel um inadequately
prepared. And so the goal is to just help give them some confidence, equip them with skills so that they can do the roles at their schools and hopefully sit on other committees and become advisory chairs. So you're not seeing these same faces all the time. It's all about
building capacity and succession planning. Um and so last year what we did was in addition to our um um comprehensive training which was about two and a half hours long, we also did dropin sessions. We did four of those
where we gave bite-size information like 10 minutes of information and then we allowed those parents or community members to drop in ask whatever questions they needed to ask so that they can be able to do their role. And then the budget training that was
initiated several years ago as well. And that included the budget department, federal programs, and we also included principles. Um, initially it was an elementary school principal. Now we also include a secondary principal because we realized that the needs at each grade level, each school level are very
different. And that's been successful. >> Well, um, a couple things I just want to say in response. um uh doing this is important and you taking on this responsibility of making sure that it has a curriculum as rich as that is absolutely spectacular. I want to thank
you for that. Um you know the development of the leader of the advisory committees is synonymous with success of the advisory committee which is success in getting us advice and so I appreciate you uh working in area in which there's a tremendous amount of leverage. I would like to come to your
training. I'd like to be there and role play as a I I'll try and play a representative board member and they can ask me questions or give a report and I'll try and give them some feedback or any way that I'd be helpful. I'd also like to reach out to all the chairs and let them know that I'm coming and that I really want them to come and uh
participate in this uh fully um and I might put out a message to the audience as well, the broader audience just come and attend. This is really really important training. I'm going to ask the superintendent to send a senior staff member as well. I think it'd be really important for a cabinet level person and a schoolboard member to be there for the
length of time of that training uh and make sure that if anyone has any questions or they want any information uh they can get a couple customers of the advisory committees and the advisory chairs uh to play any any role that you find appropriate. So let me know the date and time and um uh I will do
everything within my power uh to be there. I think it's really important. I'm really disturbed about what you said about Markham. I went and toured Markham with the district commissioner of Pompo and we promised Markham would be open at the
beginning of 27. We didn't say we thought it was going to. We didn't say assuming we get the RFP done. We didn't say given, you know, all the maintenance gets done ahead of time, which by the way is a totally different product than actually getting an RFP out. Those are wildly different
staffs that work that. So, I'm going to pick up Markham uh and ride that for a while until we figure out not if we can get it done, but how we can get it done because we made a commitment to the city leaders of PMPO Beach and to the
residents to get that done. This is not something that that you should do uh at the cabinet level and then walk away from it. I doubt very seriously and I'll check after this meeting today whether the city of PMPO is aware of the delays in the delivery of Markham. Uh but when
they are made aware, we're all going to hear about it because we made a commitment. And you just can't walk away uh from commitments like that at a school like Markham that has lasted forever in, you know, temporary facilities that are substandard. When I
toured that cafeteria and 20 kids can be in there at a time at a school of 600, that means you have to do 30 cycles of a cafeteria line to feed the children. not acceptable and we were going to work really really hard to get that done. So, I'm going to keep on Markham for a while
until we figure out how we can get Markham done and open with full-time long-term facilities uh 2728. There are heroic things we can do in the procurement business. There are heroic things we can do in the construction business. Our superintendent talks frequently about Palm Beach County
finishing schools in 12 months. So, let's giddy up and let's figure out, you know, how we can get Markhamm done. is not something that as a board member I can like tolerate because if I can't tell an elected official what the superintendent staff has committed to and and that they believe that and I
stand behind it, how am I supposed to believe them when they come and ask me for uh use of surplus property for affordable housing because that's the highest and best use of land or uh would you please you know look at you know this parcel because the city's got some fundamental needs that they'd like
addressed and you know this is an eligible parcel. I have to trust them, you know, that what they're talking about is full faith and value and they have to trust us. And so, as the board member that was there when the cabinet member said we will open this in 27, uh, I'm going to follow through on this.
And, um, I look forward to, uh, board support on finding some heroic measures. I I trust me, you don't need to say anything else about Markham. I got it. >> And I just I just wanted >> and if you'd like, but uh, >> I just wanted to mention the resiliency of the community there and the staff. They've really have a tremendous
attitude. The leadership there is doing all that she can to ensure that the culture in the school is uplifted in spite of the um the facilities conditions. >> Look, a culture of a community is going to survive anything Brower County Public Schools does. It's uh I grew up here.
You know, you can't you can't uh one, it's amazing the strength of that community, but we ought not to be testing that strength. When we make a commitment, uh we got to follow through. Last point, chair, uh audit committee is not here today. Uh it's been a very big
audit that came out about data. Uh I am a big big believer that data is king. You cannot make good decisions without robust data. >> [clears throat] >> Um the audit has shown that we had spectacular failures in discipline data in our system. There's always a
transition from a single terms like system to an enterprise level standardized software system. Uh but the combination of training and and process definition has left us very vulnerable. And so we're going to learn more about that the results of that audit and what the consequences of them are. I think
they're very serious. I think the lack of discipline data that's available uh a student goes from one school to another if the data is not in the database you have no idea what happened uh in previous years and we can't rely on staff to always remember all these things and we won't know where we are in
the discipline matrix if we don't know the history of what's going on. So we're going to learn more about that. I wish the audit committee uh could have been here today. I know they haven't met in the last month, but when they do meet and take that one up, um I expect them to help me and help uh the superintendent understand more about the
consequences of uh those uh those rates of of lack of data. It's really really important whether you talk about ESSE data, Miss Lumkin, or you talking about uh discipline data, safety and security data. Uh when we don't have the data and we keep telling people to make decisions
that are buttressed or reinforced by the data that exists and the data no has no veracity, uh we're we're kind of talking past each other and so I'm looking forward to learn more about that uh when we convene. Thank you, Chair. >> Thank you. And next on the list, I have Miss Roupert. Miss Rupert, um I just
want to let you know I was informed uh by my colleague that um you feel that I'm ignoring you. I don't have any communication from you that you wanted to speak. So again, if you want to uh be added to the list to speak, I'm happy to do that if you just shoot me a text or
Mr. Hill a text. Um but I did call in the first two people and the only two people in the room who uh waved their hand to speak to this issue. So um again as we go through the workshop today since you are not here you're online as is uh Dr. Hoess um if you would like to
speak as we've done in the past when you haven't been in the room please shoot me or Mr. Hill a text so I know to add you to the lister >> thank you um yeah my hand I hit the a hand icon and I texted inside the chat
um to where Andre is supposed to be looking and um >> okay well Mr. I have no access to that. So, I just want you to know in the past when uh you've wanted to speak to me or on to be added to the list you've just texted me and so I thought that was an effective way. Um but yeah, thank you. I
have no way of seeing what's on teams. >> Okay. Sounds like a plan then. Um I just wanted to comment on um Miss Dominique's uh assessment of of um excuse me, [clears throat] Markham and uh Dr. Zean
saying that he's on it. Thank goodness. Um I've been hitting that drum hard as possible. One board member and I do know Debbie's worked uh quite quite hard too. And um it's better it's better that we have more voices at the same time. And
we I I believe there's an item coming up for Markham that we'll be able to discuss a replacement of the building and ask more questions at that time. Um I look forward to that robust conversation and I have certainly been in contact with U Mark Darett and we've
you know we've discussed it. In fact the one of the last board meetings where I was in town um he happened to be in the kind of the breezeway and I I uh he and I had conversation and I said what's going on? Why are we delaying this it seems like? and um he he mentioned
forward that that the district was looking at a more comprehensive um situation. So I do look to hear from my colleagues uh on that process and um anybody that wants to jump on and be on any of uh the schools that that are in
district 7, let me know. Um, I appreciate every one of you and um, anyone that's willing to look at disparities and um, really pushing very hard to get that done. Um, so thank you, Madam Chair. That that's all for me and
I promise to uh, be able to use the utilization where I'm texting you. So, thanks. >> Thank you, Dr. Holes. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Just want to make sure um, you can hear me clearly, Madam Chair. >> Yes, we can.
>> Okay. Awesome. So, I just wanted to um echo what you've said, Madam Chair, regarding the process um as far as notifying uh committees of the um meetings to
which they should appear for reports. Um I believe that you know uh overinforming without consistency can lead to confusion and we can see that here because based upon all of the committee cares that you've called on majority of
them are not here today. Um, so while I understand uh that sometimes an email is sent, sometimes an email is not sent, we do need to have consistency because that will lead to confusion. Um, so if we're
going to send emails, let's do that every single time. If we're not going to send emails, then let's have the chairs rely on the agenda as far as when they're supposed to uh come in and give their reports. So with that being said, Madam Chair, and I believe Dr. Zean
mentioned uh that the audit um chair, advisory chair may have some key information, and I'm sure the other chairs also have key information. So I would like to gain consensus from the board uh present today to see if those
who were not here as a result of any confusion that we can hear their reports at the school board meeting on the 28th that we can allocate an hour time or so for them because I think this is important. We may be missing key information that's not here today.
Is that are that those your comments, Dr. Wness? >> Um, well, yes, but I I was wondering, Madam Chair, if we could gain consensus on that comment, and then I have another comment. >> Is there any objection to Dr. Holes's Miss Thompson?
>> I think it's a pretty loaded agenda on the 28th. Um, and then we also have, I believe, a meeting at 5 the same day. Um I would like staff's um input on that. Um thank you doc Dr.
Heburn. >> Yes. Um definitely a loaded agenda. I do want to remind the board that um per policy the um committee and advisory chairs can submit reports um written reports to the board which some um do um so that's another way of providing
information or reports to the board about specific advisories and in committees. >> Dr. Demon. >> Yeah, I'm I'm also mindful of the um kind of notice off cycle for asking people to come in. Um and a lot of advisories, not all, but a lot of
advisories don't meet over the summer. So, there's not really new information to bring. I love hearing from our advisories. Uh but I think it's on balance given this schedule that we have on the 28th, it' be better to wait until the beginning of August before we get the next thing with the start of the uh school year. Thank you.
>> Anyone else? Miss Woman. Thanks, chair. Thank you to everyone that's here today. Um I just I wanted to follow up >> to comment on this first. >> What am I? Oh >> on. >> I'm sorry. I'm totally out of it. I um I
agree that we probably have too much going on on that day. >> As do I, Mr. Seivera. >> Too jam-packed. Wouldn't make a lot of sense to do it. >> Miss Rupert. Um I agree that it's too packed.
Okay. Do you have your consensus on that, Dr. Holes? >> Yes. So, Madam Chair, um, and I thank the board members for their input. What I would suggest going forward is that, as you mentioned, Madam Chair, that we either,
uh, email consistently or we don't do it at all. So, I'm hoping that um going forward that can happen because um you know I I I believe it creates some sort of a confusion and also it may not be um
beneficial to the board for not having um some of the input from the chairs that we could have had today. So, and it it may be no fault of the the staff. I just think we we just need to have consistency in what we do so there is no
confusion. Um so thank you Madam Chair. I have another comment um that uh on um uh Miss Dominique's um response regarding leadership leadership succession. Uh I've always been um an advocate and and
uh um pushing for leadership succession and capacity building within the committees as far as um peers. So I am happy to hear um Miss Dominique um speak about that and I do hope that there can
be effective plans in place um for leadership succession and building capacity within our committees. Um because uh anything can happen where chairs may have to depart their position. Um so I am I am hoping this will be something that will be seriously
considered as we move forward. Those are my comments. Madam Chair, thank you so much. Thank you. Anyone else? Miss Bullman, >> sorry I started this before erroneously. Um, so anyway, thank you for everyone
for coming. Uh, I wanted to follow up on uh, Miss Dominique's comment. Uh, we're getting the report on the testing this week. Is that okay? So, um, what is our plan moving forward for that? Because
are we do we have a workshop scheduled to because I'd like to see I I think that we really need to invest some more time in the testing the screen time and the AI conversation. Is that something that we could do?
>> Um I think the uh Mr. Deill if you can give give us the next workshop date. >> Yes, the next workshop date is August 11th. >> Okay. And on that, >> so we'll be releasing the report um this
week, which is pretty comprehensive um and what we're actually going to start implementing which significantly reduces um testing and also reduces screen time because they're not sitting in front of screens taking the uh taking the test. Um we can c certainly uh workshop that
um August the 11th sometime in August would be preferable um because we start um first PM1 for state assessments and some other um diagnostics so we can have that conversation prior to but we've really um done a great job in reducing
um testing by a lot um and so you'll see that reflected in the report when it's sent this week. >> Okay. And so and with the screen time the you know the conversation we've been having is to reduce or eliminate screen time for the younger >> correct for K through
>> and so is that something that we're going to workshop or is that something that you're bringing forward? >> I think the um chair has an item um for next week as well um but we can certainly um kind of couple that into that to that workshop because that's where most of your screen time comes
from. >> Okay. um is actually assessments >> and then the AI component. Um I saw that we got a memo. So thank you Dr. Conn. Um I haven't had a chance to read it yet because I didn't have internet access yesterday. Um but that
will also be coming. I because I I think we really need to be communicating this properly and so that people have the correct information. I think there's so much misinformation about what's happening right now and we need to get ahead of that and really absolutely
>> assure the parents of and and advise them of what's actually happening because from just you know looking at this memo really quickly there's no student access to the magic schools right now. >> Um I think we need to really set that in
front of our parents so that we >> Yes. So there's a good runner show um that's being facilitated by Dr. Con and his team and I know um the the parent task force um ESC advisory know Miss Luskam's on that too uh for a parent parent university that has breakout
rooms and things like that. Uh we'll uh do a release of the new website with a lot of information for parents and push that out through our through our parent link. So we have a good run of show to um educate the parents um coming up for it about all the tangible things uh as
far as B powered by AI what the student experiences are going to be um when they get the opportunity to be immersed in that. So it's it's forthcoming. >> Okay. And I sometimes less is more. I I think a 45page memo might not I >> Well, the memo's for you guys.
>> Okay. But I definitely think you know something that people can actually easily comprehend and take away that they understand instead of having to ding into something that >> now the parent facing information and public facing information would be uh different. The memo was more uh detailed
uh for the board for all the questions that we received from uh the past couple of meetings and workshops just to make sure the board have a full understanding of what implementation is going to look like, what is it, what it's not, um what the staff has done over the past year um and all those wonderful things. And then
the parent facing and student facing information is um in collaboration u with some of our advisories and and um task force. Okay. And then when we're doing the parent in uh university, we'll be taking additional feedback then or is that okay?
>> Good. Some people that had a had a comment. >> Sorry. I would just love to speak to that if I may to say that Dr. Con's team which is led by Thomas Carell has been really collaborative and has really
listened um in the meetings we've had to acknowledge that there are a lot of parent concerns out there about AI. There is misinformation and myth, but there is also genuine concern and wellplaced um curiosity and um caution.
And I just want to commend that team for how well they've actually been pretty darn collaborative about it. And what you mentioned there was exactly what we've discussed about how do you put information out there and it's not a parent university. We figured let's not call it something that sounds like the
parents have got to study or clue up or take a test at the end of it or something like that. So, it's a family forum on AI and it's um it's addressing exactly some of those things that you mentioned, the importance of getting succinct but impactful information out there. Thank you.
>> Okay, great. >> I just wanted to know if the report on testing would be available to the public. >> Yes. Um, we'll figure out how to push it out, but yeah, everything's available to the public, but we'll figure out how to kind of push that out.
>> Okay, I just had one more thing. So, Miss Singer, thank you for being here. Um, I I have a question for our general counsel. So, this was something um as we're uh moving forward with advisory committees. Uh one one issue that came up is that
there's a a inherent conflict I guess with um so the small business advisory committee is advising you know bringing the small business perspective but if you become a bar county public schools vendor then you are conflicted out is
that just is there any way is that a clear conflict and there's no way we can get around that moving forward or >> um So, it is a conflict, but let me process that a little bit and have some conversations and just um look at our
policies and review chapter 112 to see if there's anything that can be done. This is something that does come up from time to time in advisory committee. So, I'd like to ponder it a little bit >> because it it seems to me that we have a very limited u participation with the
business community when and the businesses that are actually participating with us might be um in the position to give us the best advice about our processes and everything else. So, if we can work on that be great. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, Miss Thompson. Thank you, chair. And I was going to say the same thing about the waiver process. So, thank you for bringing that. Um, and thank you for overcoming your nerves. We're more than chill people for the most part. Um, and so I also wanted to
piggyback on the thank you to uh Dr. Conn and Mr. Carell. I had um a virtual town hall about AI and technology and Mr. Kell really stepped up to the plate without with I think an hour notice of
him going to be attending the the meeting. But I do think some and and on socials as well because I think we do not utilize social media as well as we should as a district in the 2026.
Um because I think the main one of the main concerns was about elementary age and their access to AI and right now our student um our student access is not turned on and there's going to be an intensive process is my understanding
from Dr. Cohen. So I think very basic bullet point social media blasts of like this is we hear your concerns. We're not um dismissing the concerns because I think a lot of them as are valid as an elementary school parent myself. Um but
I think that's where there's confusion and then it starts in the the Facebook chats of oh this is happening. No, this is happening. Well, this is happening in California, so it's probably happening here. And I think that we need to be a little bit more um intentional in our
quick response and our use of social media. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? All right. Well, thank you so much to our advisories. Um that concludes this workshop. The next item is redefining our schools 2627.
Attorney Dupri Bruno, since that was um on the agenda, I believe for starting at 10:30. Uh how do you recommend we proceed? >> I think you have to wait till 10:30. That's the time it was advertised. >> Okay. So, we will recess the meeting until 10:30. Thank you.
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item is redefining our schools 2627 planning workshop. I now turn it over to staff for a presentation. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, at this time I'm going to turn it over to Dr. Wanza and her team to give us an update and um some of the rigors of uh the next
redefining phase um to come. >> Thank you Dr. Hburn. Good morning and happy new year. I am Valerie Wanza, the chief strategy and operations officer and joining me today are two of my team members. We have Mr. Joe Beck who is the director of demographics and enrollment
planning and Mr. Willie Wood who is the director of strategic initiatives [clears throat] and performance management. If Beacon can load the presentation, we'll get started. Um, we so um we are here today as we um had a
conversation with the board at the June 16th workshop that we will be back today to really start the um planning processes for this upcoming school year. It is important to note that um as we go through this process, any decisions or
determinations made around schools do not become effective until the 27 or 20 28th school year because there was some confusion out in the public that today's conversation will take effect on August 10th and the board has already made those decisions. So, um we just wanted
to make sure that is um clear so that there's no confusion there. So, as a part of today's conversation, the board did ask us to bring an update um on prior year's decisions made by the board just where are we with those schools and those processes. We are going to go do
that first. Then we're going to um talk a little bit about um or a lot of bit about the utilization of this building, give an update on where we are with relocation of district staff. We did um have two slides just to give the board a little bit of update on our surplus, our
properties that are already declared surplus. Let me say that. And then obviously we need um to have some conversation and direction around this year's process as we um begin to go out and engage with the community and have conversations. So in prior years, the
very um uh um well, I guess it was the second year, but the first full year of redefining in 2425, these were the outcomes from that school year. I will not read um the slide verbatim, but we know that we transition one school from a a standard elementary school to an
early learning center and then we expanded the grade levels either of a middle school or the elementary schools there on the screen. And so as a result of that work, Broward Estates Elementary School transitioned to Broward Estates's Early Learning and Resource Center. Um a
lot of powerful work is being done there. you see all of the pre-k programs that are offered to um the families in the community as well as a a wide variety of community services and I know that um the team is currently working you can see at the bottom with the
United Way United Way of Broward to even expand the services offered there at the school but they did have their as you can see their moving up ceremony that they had as last school year closed to transition their early learners on into the formal kindergarten space and Then
as we um I'm on slide six now. As we um expanded the grades in four of our elementary schools, we expanded them from K5 to K8 schools and then we um expanded Pines Middle School from 6 to8 to 612. You do see the upward trajectory
of enrollment in those schools. The last column is pre-rollover. So um we know that we roll all the students over. We know we have an aggressive um marketing campaign for students and families in the community and in the tri county area. But the this slide does show um
those investments and decisions and the positive impact that they are having on the schools. So um last school year the board uh did a series um or actually took action on a series of the s the superintendent's
recommendations. The first slide um outlines the schools that we um that we consolidated. Those are the elementary schools as well as Seagull Alternative High School. When I get to another slide, you'll see Plantation Middle there. But those are the schools, the
elementary schools as well as Seagull that we completely consolidated those schools and where the um children are now assigned to. The next slide is where we did um some feeder pattern cleanup, if you will, in out in Pimrook Pines as
well as in the cities of Hlandale and West Park around um Pimrook Pine, I'm sorry. Um the there was a feeder pattern of students at Silver Palms that went to Walter C and uh Flanigan for high school
and they've now been transitioned to Silver Trail for middle school and West Broward for high school. And then when we redesign Howlandale High School, there's that West Park area that we trans phase transition back to Myiramar High School. And then the great reconfigurations, Thood Marshall will
now go from uh K to 5 or pre-K to 5 to truly birth to grade 5. And there's some powerful work that started there. Plantation Middle School is consolidating into Plantation High School to create Plantation 6 to 12. and then Halllandell High School transitioning to the 4-day school week
similar um to the way we have PMPO Beach High School configured. Moving on to slide nine. Um just as an update for what we did last school year, we are we have done a lot of work. Um we started actually we started before um the board
took its final vote. We started looking at some things that we would have to do if the board voted to improve approve the superintendent's recommendations. And then we started um aggressive work from January all the way through um and it's uh go ongoing. A few cleanup things
are still going on, but for the most part, the schools are ready. They're excited. Um if you look at their social media feeds and their social media campaigns about all the wonderful things that they are doing to welcome families, to welcome new staff, and they're excited. So, we've done a lot of things
as far as moving furniture, ensuring that the phones are transitioned um and a lot of uh we are working on any outstanding um issues right in these last couple of weeks. The the other thing that I will say is um the the
principles of the schools have provided some very timely feedback to us as district staff as we continue to um enhance the process. And then the last thing I'll say is we know that two of the campuses, well three of them, Panther Run um and Sunshine will house
district staff and then Palm Cove the team at Sheridan and Technical College is really preparing to go in and make the transition for that school to become a branch campus of um Sheridan and Technical College. On the next two slides, there's um a question that we
have for the board as it relates to the Northport campus. When we had the conversation with the board on June 16, um we staff received direction to begin the negotiation process with Cy Trunk Rising around um their proposal to
really uh take that site, redevelop it, and provide for um affordable workforce housing, a education center, and potentially a hotel. And so there was some questions around, and you can see it on screen. I'm on slide 12 in that
gold golden area that's outlined. That's the area that they were really looking to um develop the town houses. And there was some question around um if the board would be interested in potentially selling just that parcel of land so that
you so that the um concept of home ownership is really solidified. Because right now in doing a full ground lease, we know that um dependent on the term of the lease, there is the um there there is the possibility or there's the
pathway for homeownership. But if the district would just be interested in selling that slice of the land only, and that's one of the takeaways that we have for today, and that piece would be used solely for the development of town homes
as a um a pathway to home ownership. And then um the other land, oh I'm sorry, the other facility um is the Seagull Alternative High School campus. We we staff is working on bringing the board a response to option one. Um and
option one is really if we were to look at the district creating its own public safety complex for training um for law enforcement, for first responders. And then option three, we know that um thanks to our general counsel and how we
are really revamping the policy process and protocols and there's a standard SOP, I'm really bringing back a formal policy and process to actually receive proposals for land that may become available. So staff is working, which
wanted to give the board an update that staff is working to bring back a formal response and information to the board on options one and three because from the conversation on June 16th, that is where we um receive consensus from the board
to move forward. So that's why you see option two is really not something that staff is um spending a great deal of time on. Once the board gives us direction on option one or option three, then we'll come back to the board. And we just put this here so that the board and the public sees the aerial map of
the Seagull and Whitten property, that um space in the center because there was a question about where the child care um pro uh classrooms are located. And it's in that little rectangular space that it's right there in the center with the green box. That's where the child care programs are located. They have been
located on Whiten's campus um since the late 1990s. So, next we move to um this building and the utilization of this building. We do have while we have a graphic there, we do have in the backup the actual um you
know readable uh size of of this document that's on the left that gives the um floor byfloor pretty much estimate of what it would cost to um lease each floor. the space on each floor annually. And so right now it is the superintendent's recommendation to
um retain district operations on seven floors of this building. Obviously the board's direct reports. So that would be the superintendent, the general counsel, the chief auditor and their identified functions that they would like, you know, would remain obviously in this
building. And then we would um uh make floors three through nine available for lease working with a commercial realtor um to do that. And what we also know is that Brightar Credit Union, they've already advised um staff that they will
not be renewing their lease down for the branch that they have on the first floor. they've already worked with the appropriate staff to put like a finance kiosk, if you will, here in the building so that there still will be some banking services available for staff um who need
that. As well as we know that um members um of the public would would actually utilize that branch, but that branch would close. And then we would work with a realtor as well to determine, you know, what is the best use or best
opportunities for that space down on the um south. So that's the souththeast corner of the building. And then as it relates to um to um district staff, I I won't read the slide, but but we but we are um we have
begun moving staff to different areas of the county. We have service hubs set up for ESSE at um T Tamarak Elementary School in the north, Thood Marshall Elementary School in the central and Myiar Elementary School in the south. Sunshine Elementary is the place where
um the staff that are currently located in the Rock Island Professional Development Complex, which you know, we sold that uh that land and that um property to the Urban League several years ago. So that staff is going to move to Sunshine Elementary School. We
um have enough um spaces in schools that we can accommodate the seven floors of this building that we would relocate as well as the staff at TSSC TSSC annex.
Um, and then this slide we we just updated these the next two slides because we wanted to do um have the public memorial memorializing the sale of the um the site the elementary a trails in site. So that is updated on this slide. And then um the staff and
real estate and facility planning will have um a couple of other RFPs coming out. I got to take my glasses off to read. Um and it um it's the um the site um at the the Coral Springs acreage
site. We know that that's going to come out soon. Um the the Southwest Ranches site and then both the city of Sunrise and Broward County government have actually toured the TSSC annex and the
TSSC building for potential um purchase of those sites. So now we move to the current year's process and we know that the process um is guided by what is outlined in policy 810. We do have a pol copy of policy
8010 attached to the presentation pol the policy tells us it gives us the criteria that schools must meet one of these three criteria um for us to engage in the conversation about addressing them for future use. So those are the
three criteria. Um the board when we had the conversation on May 12th, these are the things um that the board the affirmations that the board um uh basically um reiterated with staff is, you know,
obviously we want to protect the rigorous academic programs that we have and and and the variety. We want to guarantee continuity for our students with special needs. Obviously um safety and security in age appropriate environments. One of the things
communicate early, communicate clearly with the community. Um also maintain a sense of community where available and the board 100% is um in the business of providing this community with fully
supported schools. So, um, also at the May 12th workshop, the board did come to consensus on the composition of the, um, of this, uh, school boundary advisory community, bringing that down to a 1717,
um, member committee, and we'll talk about that shortly. Um the board does want us to use a variety of data um to bring to them to assist in the decision-making process and also um the criteria for evaluating proposals as we
look at um uh facilities that may be repurposed. So some key takeaways from the our conversation with the board on June 16th. Basically, um obviously we still need to secure um a master planner to create a long-term plan for the use of
the district's facilities. One of the conversations that we introduced and the board um did give us some favorable feedback on was opportunities for replacement schools and we will talk about that as um I'm sure as the conversation goes. And so that that opportunity really looks at you know we
have we could have a cluster of three elementary schools that the you know the the um population may be able to fit in one larger elementary school. So one space could be designated as the actual um site where the school is going to be built. One school one site could be
designated as the swing space and then the other site could be you know what and this is what we would like to see happen at this um facility. But obviously the board is very interested in offering our families and the community state-of-the-art facilities.
We all they um the board also asks us to make certain that we create and communicate a uh formalized process to receive proposals from the community from different individuals who may be interested in um land or buildings that
are available. And as I said, um the GC, the general counsel has been very um uh just a resource in helping make sure that we get there and create that outcome. Um also look at um opportunities where there's funding and how we can utilize funding and also
create opportunities um for revenue generating opportunities as well. And then one of the things that the um capital programs department has done and what's very exciting is they have they are establishing um project dashboards a a complete comprehensive look and this
would um increase transparency and it also demonstrates efficiency in the work that we're doing. So that um you'll get some more information on that coming up shortly. We did provide for the board um just a
look at enrollment changes um at in in the district that occurs and we did it over this um this span of years so that you can see over the last you know five years what has happened to us during the
school year as it relates to enrollment changes. Um, aside from this past school year and the year before, we were used to, you know, students would come and go throughout the school year, but we would pretty much land within two to, you
know, 3,000 kids at most of where we were, we would land, but in these last two school years, we h we are we are experiencing students are leaving and however students are no are no longer coming to us during the school year as
well. So we did just put that there so that the board um sees the how we are looking enrollment wise. And then this um the the next slide slide 24 really talks about charter school enrollment versus private school enrollment versus
district enrollment over the last 10 years. And you can see um where the charter school and private school enrollment um really um kept inching up as we were going down. But you'll see the charter schools are now leveling off
and even declining. However, um the private school enrollment continues to grow and we do have we're ready to talk about um what um just what can be contributing to that rise of enrollment there. The other thing that we're going
to um look at in the process is our actual facilities condition assessments of our buildings. We do have that information. So, we just wanted to um remind the board and the public that that will absolutely be a part of the redefining our schools process. So, that's what slides 25 and 26 just
re-educates everyone on of what a facility condition assessment is and how it's calculated. Um on slide 27, these are the four options that once we identify, you know, what schools, what pieces of land, what
um we are looking at in this year's process, these are the four options um that we see as available. And we would need direction from the board on which option would be um the board's direction or the board's decision depending on
where it's done. Is it in a workshop or is it in a board meeting? What is going to be done with a particular site? So, we do want we did want to put the options there so that um the board has and and if the board wants to add another option, I'm not sure that there is, but if the board wants to add one,
we would need to know that as well as we um get to redefining for this school year. We know that community engagement is necessary. We know that it must be a critical part of the process.
We still would like to move um to three regional type conversations as opposed to um I think we did like 13 individuals in as a part of well comp collectively we did 13 meetings. the regionals, we only did three, but we really would like
to move this to more of a regional conversation because one of the things that the board did um tell us is that when we bring schools, we want to look at the schools that we actually want to have the conversations about as opposed
to um bringing that cluster or broad swath of like five or six schools know which ones are the one or two. So that's why we want to make the conversations a little bit more targeted. Obviously, we will continue to um collaborate in a variety of ways with our municipal
leaders and the um and the business community as well. And then um we what what we do always is encourage stakeholder participation throughout the entire process. And we want to be very respectful um of the community's time as
we move forward. And lastly, obviously once we get some final direction, we will communicate some very clear timelines to the board, I'm sorry, to the public because we um want to be as transparent as possible. We've already made some minor um adjustments to the
redefining our schools website as well as that is housed in demographics and enrollment planning and we'll make some more um edits after we get conversation and direction today. So, this is our um timeline that we are are proposing. Obviously, we're here
today. Um and then you'll see our our timeline really has us um with the board taking a formal vote on um whatever is going to happen to particular schools, particular properties. have that vote happen in December so that um we can
then work with families in the rest of December, the first half of um January around school choice options and things of that nature. But our goal is to get out to have the conversations to do all of the actions necessary so that the
board takes the um the vote in December. But whatever the board and whenever the board takes the vote, the um actions as it relates to schools again will not be effective until the 2728 school year. So on August 25th, August 25th, we are
going to come back to the board again. And this is what we are proposing that we come back to the board with at the August 25th conversation, the finalized list of schools to be addressed, community engagement plan, as well as the composition. And and when I say
composition, it's the actual um um advisory groups that the board wants on representation on the committee. The board, each board member will have a representative. The superintendent will have a representative. Last year we had
seven advisories um that had the chairperson or a representative. So we want to make sure which advisory groups the board wants um to be a part of the committee because and then and then in September we will bring the formal board resolution for the board to vote and
codify that comm community that committee's membership and its purpose. So what we need direction on today um are four things. Basically the interest um for the purchase of the land that swat the land on the North Fork site. Um
we want to make sure that the board wants us to continue to just look at option one and three for the seagull campus. Uh um look some feedback obviously on the use of this um facility and then as it relates to the redefining our school's comprehensive process
timeline um timeline composition and community involvement. And with that I think Dr. Heburn, we're ready for >> All right. We Sorry. >> No, I was going to say we're ready for discussion, Madam Chair.
>> Um, well, first we'll go to public comment. I have GMO GMO Mazone and Adam Murad. Um, so please approach the podium. >> Good morning. Good morning. Thank you to the uh school board members, the school
board staff. My name is Gomez out of Miami, Florida 33133. and I want to not only thank you for your time and effort on this workshop, but also congratulate you on your third consecutive year being an A-rated district. So, congratulations on that. I come here on behalf of Related Urban
Development Group, and we uh support the district's consideration on repurposing their assets to provide, you know, much great a great need of for housing for the community. Uh, Related Urban specializes in public private
partnerships in Miami Day County and throughout the state of Florida where we're familiar with the ground lease process, financial benefit packages. And to date, we've completed over 40 projects, over 7,300 units that are affordable and workforce units. And
uh one of those projects actually include a collaboration with Miami Day County School Board where we partnered with them and we facilitated a development in Bickl which was an an area that needed an educational purpose where they built a school that had
affordable housing units for their staff. We were a part of that and and that's addition in addition to our uh it's it's adjacent to our affordable workforce project next door. Um, in addition to that, we are also working with the school board. We just finished
a master development agreement for another development where it's a mixeduse development and we're going to be rebuilding some educational uses alongside residential units that are affordable workforce and specifically for the schoolboard staff. We're also
working with the public health system and we've partnered with a hospital in Miami Day County and we're building approximately a thousand units for the hospital system, their workforce and their staff. So again, just want to reiterate our support for this consideration and and this topic of
repurposing the school and I want to thank you guys again. Thank you. >> Thank you, Attorney Dri Bruno. >> Thank you for the comment. Um, next time I would ask that you please register as a lobbyist. We do have a formal policy that discusses that and you can um look
on our website. Legislative affairs can assist you as well, but there is a process for the board so that they know when they have a lobbyist. Thank you so much, >> Mr. Hill. >> Yes, we ask that you please speak with Armando who just walked in the door regarding that um initiative to to register for a lobbyist.
>> Thank you. And then I have Adam Murad. >> Adam's actually Okay, cool. All right. Um board discussion, I have Dr. for homelessness. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, and I'd like to thank Dr. Wanza and her team uh for
such a detailed presentation. Um, I do want to make a few comments. Uh, but before I start, uh, Dr. Wza, in your closing, you mentioned there are four things you need consensus on. One was North Fork, the second was Seagull. I didn't hear the other two. Could you
repeat the other two, please? >> Yes. Um the the third one, Dr. Hois, was um um the s we need feedback on the superintendent's recommendation for the use of the Casey Wright building. And then um um we need um feedback from the
board around this year's redefining our schools process as we prepare to um look at the schools that are going to be addressed. Definitely the community engagement process, the timeline, and anything else that the board wants um in
the process. Okay, great. So, um before I go into detail, Madame Chair, I'll just state where I stand on on uh three of the four things Dr. Wanda mentioned for North Fork um regarding the sale of that
portion of land where there will be um affordable housing uh uh provided to our teachers and staff for purchase. Um, I think it would make sense uh for us to um allow the sale of that property. I I
don't understand. I think the process would be complicated if there's a lease um and then we're building homes to be sold. Um I think it would make a lot more sense that we allow them to buy that portion of land where homes will be
built uh for sale uh at an affordable price. So I am a yes for um the purchase of that portion of North Fork where there would be the uh affordable housing for sale for the
seagull. I am a yes for um uh for option three. Um and I am also willing to continue to hear the benefits of option one. Uh for option one, my concern,
Madame Chair, is um we have we are in financial constraints as far as a district. Um I believe the last time we've discussed this, I wasn't quite clear as to the financial benefit of option one. I understand there are other
benefits but I believe the position our district is in um we are heavily focused on on what how can we maximize the financial benefit of these properties that we have. I believe option three
would provide greater financial benefit unless the staff can prove otherwise for option one. Uh, regarding option one as well, we are we are probably going to be looking at multiple other locations to repurpose which could include closing.
Um, you know, this property seems to be a prime property in Fort Lauderdale. I believe the uh district safety, security, and emergency preparedness division could be could be placed in one of the uh other properties we're looking
at the other schools we're looking at in terms of repurposing as opposed to this very prime property that we could get um uh significant amount of uh um funding as far as sale or land lease or public partnership. So I would much rather
option three for the sele property until I am convinced that option one has some greater financial benefit regarding the KC right building. Um I am supportive of the superintendent um recommendation. Um I like it and I can't wait for us to
start getting some uh funds in for that. Um so I am fully supportive of that. So I have a few comments. Dr. you mentioned uh the broad estate uh elementary um that was transitioning to Broad State's early learning center. Uh
I want to reiterate again my gratitude to Dr. Cannon, Miss Freeman and all those involved in this process, the superintendent and his team. Um because Bart Estates uh is a great success. Um I went to the move up ceremony and um I
saw the little ones um moving up to kindergarten and I remember when we had the discussion on this we we spoke about how the surrounding community uh the kids were not the prek kids were not uh kindergarten ready. In fact the
statistics were were alarming where um only onethird of the students living in that area as far as prek were kindergarten ready. When I went to the move up ceremony, uh, I was told that 100% of the preks moving up were
kindergarten ready and reading and ready for kindergarten. So, it is a great success and I know we had some push back from the community. uh rightfully so, but I think the community should be now proud of the efforts that we've done at Broadstates Elementary and we will
continue to have this kind of uh attention to all of the schools in Broad County that we are repurposing to make sure that it is utilized in a manner to benefit the community in a positive way. So, thank you Dr. Wanza for that information. Uh on page six, um if let
me just go to page six and I have a few comments, Madam Chair, if you don't mind. Uh on page six, let me just move up there. Um so on page six, uh it shows that uh the um pre-rollover
uh enrollment for 2026 2027 and I can see that in the upcoming year uh we're going to realize um increase in enrollment as a result of our redefining efforts. So Dr. Wanza, I know this chart is specific to um five schools shown
here. I know there are other um schools that uh were um cedar for the schools that were redefined such as um um Silver Palms, uh Lakeside, um MLK, Walker,
Thood Marshall and so on. Do we have or can we have data in the future um for these schools that receive students from repurposed schools to show the impact of our redefining efforts in increasing the
enrollment of existing schools? >> Go ahead. >> Yes, Dr. Holess, we can certainly um provide that. Um what we have been doing is looking um actually weekly at the data to look at the impact but we absolutely can provide that to the
board. Dr. Hoes. >> Okay. So Dr. Wanza in let's say our board meeting for um September when we have a better idea of student enrollment. I would love to see a chart that has all of the receiving schools,
the feeder schools for the ones that we close or redefine. I would love to see the data on their enrollment let's say around September to show the impact the positive impact of what we're doing uh in terms of increasing enrollment in existing schools.
>> So um Dr. Dr. Holless, we can certainly um make that as a as a special call out if you will when we release the benchmark enrollment day um uh memo and we we going to release that around September 15th because I think September
14th is the benchmark enrollment day. Don't quote me, but it's somewhere there and we can actually do um a special table slide information what whatever is appropriate to really highlight the enrollment in those schools. But but the answer to your question is um yes sir,
we can do that. >> Wonderful. Um and I'm looking forward to that, Dr. Wanza, especially I know um board member Thompson and I we kind of um had a a lot of our schools being impacted with repurposing and we've had
to feel a lot of uh u concerns from the public. Um, I think uh having a chart that shows the progress that we've made and the positive impact on our existing schools as a result uh would be helpful in in uh at least highlighting to the
community that we are moving in the right direction as we continue to tackle the problem with declining enrollment in B County schools. So on page 17, Madame Chair, um uh I have a few comments. Um
let's see. Uh, regarding the property implantation of Hiatus Road and West Broward Boulevard, I know there were concerns with contaminant in the soil. Um, it indicates here that, um, uh, let's see,
the VSRP requires the approval of Bra County before remedial action can begin, possibly June 2026. Madam Chair, could staff update because June 2026 is gone. Could we have update on what that is as of now?
>> Dr. Hern, >> go ahead, Dr. Watson. >> So, um, the board did approve a couple of, um, items at in the June, uh, school board meeting, and so the the work is set to begin. I believe it's in July, early August.
>> Okay. So, Dr. Toanza um this work of basically cleaning up the contaminant um is it cost in the district and how much is that cost in the district? >> So we have um Samantha Al she is the task assigned um director for real
estate and facility planning or facility planning and real estate. I'll let her answer that question if that's okay. Dr. Heburn. >> Hello. Um, we actually received a grant from FD um to do a cleanup process. Um, they're going to, I guess, clean up to a
commercial grade and that work is being approved by the county. >> Okay. So, it's not costing us anything. We're receiving a grant to do that. >> Correct. >> Okay. And and do we have numbers on what that grant is?
>> We can provide that in a follow-up. Dr. homelessness, we we can provide the followup and we can provide um even you know how we acquired the grant and what the actual dollar amount and the outcomes for the grant are. Okay, great. So I'd like to move on to
slide number 18. Um in slide number 18 it shows here the facility which is um I think this is in my city, the city of Sunrise. Um where staff will be relocated and the facility uh will be
sold. Um do we have any information on whether or not the staff um all members of staff have already been relocated or what's the timeline for this relocation to take place? >> So um the the some of the staff um has
been relocated very small amount the this will probably take place in the first um half of this school year. This is um the the TSSC and the TSSC annex. So in the TSSC annex is where we have
the benefits department. In TSSC is where we have food service. We have um our technology staff. We have um our uh schoolboard police operations. A part of that staff is there. And so what the team was doing first was ensuring that
we had all of the schools that had to be moved um the furniture the everything to ensure that the schools that were repurposed that any movement that had to take place with those facilities were done first and they were done right and they were done well. Then the next phase
now is to is to now start on the relocation of district staff. So, those employees, you'll see some of them are going to move to um the Plantation Middle School complex. Some are going to move to the Panther Run complex, and
then some may even um occupy a floor on this in in this very building once we start the transition of moving staff out of this building. And um because we obviously met with Dr. Heburn, Miss Dupy, Miss Dupy Bruno as well as Mr.
magley to determine how they want their um spaces um designated here in this building and then that um then um informs the other staff of how we're going to move out of that we will move out of this building but some of the
staff um have moved and most of the departments know where they will be moving to. >> Okay. So, Dr. Wanda, I appreciate that information. So, are you able to tell us today when all staff will be out of
those buildings? >> So, I can't tell you today. I'll have to work with Mr. Dorset and his team on a follow-up because one of the things that we um did have to do was look at procuring the services of some um people, some outside vendors because it is a lot of staff that has to move. Um,
and so, uh, I do believe that on the, um, August, uh, no, on the July 28th board agenda, there is an item, um, that will contemplate, um, us getting some assistance in doing this. We can't tell you today the exact date that everybody
will be out, but it is our goal to have everything done, um, before the the beginning of the calendar year. >> Okay. And when when just for the public uh information, when you say calendar year, which specific year are you
referring to? >> July of 2020. I'm sorry, January of 2027. >> Okay. So, the goal is to have all of the staff out of those buildings by January 2027. >> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. All right. So, I have uh some more questions. Um on page 24 um you know I'm looking at the data for Broward County public schools in the last 10 years as opposed to charter schools and private schools. We're
looking at from 201516 to 202526 and as as everyone can see Burl County has seen a significant decline in enrollment. Charter schools ha have seen an increase in enrollment and private schools certainly went from 40,000 to almost
60,000. Charter schools went from 43 to 48. We've declined significantly. And I've you know it's always been my position that we can we can counter we can start to increase enrollment but I
believe we have to do certain things that may be bold and brave. Um, I appreciate the fact that we have Halenale being a uh uh model like Pompino. I strongly believe and I know that I brought an item that failed, but
I also still strongly believe that we need to have one of those in the central area. I believe it's a missed opportunity to increase enrollment in Broward County Public Schools. We have no such model in the central area. Um,
we are redefining schools. We're closing some schools. I can tell you I've spoken to um some of the uh council members in some of the cities such as Plantation and other community leaders and they strongly believe that having um Pompo
Beach type school in the central area would actually enable us to win students back from some of these private schools in the surrounding area. I've mentioned American Heritage, Pinerest, St. Thomas. Um but until we make that bold and brave
move to have a central location to win those students back um I just believe it's a missed opportunity to increase enrollment and I do hope in the future maybe uh the board will reconsider. I am strongly um of the belief that will be
successful. I felt that we could do it simultaneously. Um but um I'm still eager to uh try to bring that back in the future to see if the board would entertain a central location for a PMPO Beach type school to increase enrollment
because we can see here private schools enrollment are going up. Charter schools are going up. Broward County public school going down. Private schools where are they getting those students from? Likely from us like same as charter schools. So I think competing with them
is essential and I'm not sure if we're doing that at the moment as effectively as we should. So those are just comments regarding that. I just want to talk about page 27. Madam chair and I'm almost done
on page 27. Um Dr. Wanza I I see the options here uh that are being presented. I certainly like option one. Um, in fact, I see option one uh as um
the first step of a process that would involve option three and four. I don't like option two. Um I think we uh directed the superintendent to look at replacement schools and option one certainly uh embraced that. um whereby
two or three elementary or schools are closed or any school for that matter then we can um we can construct a larger facility as the new school for the repurposed sites now when we do repurpose those sites they're going to be remaining sites that we need to
decide what to do with those right so that's where I think it's a process involving option three and four uh where those remaining sites we can first look at whether or not we want to lease those facilities. We want to have a partnership and if we can't get traction
for that then we move to option four where we look for sale for those properties. So um Dr. Toanza, could you speak to that um suggestion uh in terms of option one, three and four being a process where the first step in the
process would be option one. The second step would be the remaining uh uh campuses that are not being used um for option three and if option three is not working then we move to option four to to dispose of those properties. Would
you be able to provide your input or Dr. Heepern on how that would look. >> Yeah, I I'll start conversation then I'll let Dr. Wansa kind of add. Um this isn't um as it is it's not a linear process or or or option like you you
when we look at a property or look at a school that we're trying to repurpose or close, we're not starting with one and then going to two and if two doesn't work then go to three. this is more of options for that specific facility um that uh is beneficial for the community,
the district, the students. So, it's it's more about having uh defined options as we uh start discussing specific sites um and seeing what's the best option for that for that site. Um, another site may uh the benefit may be
for option one because we have a certain number of students in they may benefit from building a replacement school or um another site may be totally different. They may not have any students um continuous decline and not enough students coming in. So, uh it may be advantageous for the board to surplus
the property or or do a P3. So, it's not a linear process. It's more so of having uh different options to choose from based on um that specific site that may be impacted by redefining. >> Okay, Dr. Heburn. So maybe I am not
understanding what I'm looking at because option one says we look at two or three schools to consolidate into one school. So if we have school one, two, and three, and we are going to consolidate school two, and three into school one, then now we're going to have
school site two and three that are there, and we're going to have to decide what to now do with site two and three because there is no more school being there. Is that am I interpreting option wrong incorrectly? >> Yes. Um yes, Dr. Hoess. So um I'll try
to make an example. Let's say we have uh one school site that is up for uh redefining discussion and school site B is up for um for discussion as well. Depending on that site, school option uh uh school site A may have a myriad of
students available. um if we consolidate them into one school but also needing to build a replacement school because this the school is a pre-1960s building and we're still pouring a lot of money just to get it up to uh uh to standard. School site B may not have uh any uh
incoming enrollment um based on the the demographers uh assessment over the next 10 plus years. um it's in a community that's transitioning to more commercial than than um than you know single family homes and and and things like that. So
uh option three uh may be uh a a benefit for that site versus option one. So it's more of looking at what cars do you have in your hand when you actually are trying to repurpose uh that site. What is the best option for this specific
site? So it's not a linear process. it is what's the best option for an individual site when it comes to closing um that campus um to traditional student use. >> Understand? So, you're asking us then to approve these four options as
possibilities for any given school. >> No, this is this isn't part of what uh Dr. Wza and the team and myself need feedback on. This is more of letting the board know here's four specific options um that we've laid out for um when we go
through redefining for specific sites if the board and that doesn't have to be a an answer for today. If the board sees fit that they want to add an additional option for us to consider um in the future when we start these discussions back up in the next month or so uh we
would gladly add that. But this is uh four um options that we were exercised as we're reviewing sites for discussion and and potential closure and repurpose. >> Okay, great. Now I understand. So these are four options that you're providing
as information that could be possibly exercised with board approval for specific sites. >> That's correct. >> Okay. Got it. All right. So let me just move on to my final comment. um on page 31.
Um okay. So um for board direction, Dr. Wanza, uh North Fork is a yes. Uh Seagull is a yes for option three and Casey Wright building.
Um I am uh uh I agree with the superintendent's recommendation and and lastly uh Dr. He uh as we go into the next school year, I want and I and I know I've said it before, but the
schools that are feeder schools for the ones we repurpose, um please assure us that you will and you are making every effort to ensure the aesthetic appeal of those schools. Um and they're ready for incoming students and parents as far as
just basic things. is the lawn is is cut. The the building is painted. The cafeteria flooring looks nice. Um basic repairs are done. There's no potholes in the parking lots, stuff like that. Because for example, Plantation High receiving kid from Plantation Middle. I
want to make sure those parents coming in from Plantation Middle, they're happy going over to Plantation High School. So can you just speak to assuring all of us that those schools are ready to receive these incoming students from the ones we repurpose? >> Yes, absolutely. I can provide that
level of assurance. The team has been working with principles on a bi-weekly basis just to make sure receiving schools are are ready um and um aesthetically pleasing and tackling as many issues as possible during the summer for to receive um students.
>> Awesome. Thank you, Madam Chair, uh, for giving me the opportunity to speak. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, and before I move on to the next board member, um, I did want to, since Dr. Holes is not here in person, I'd like to without objection to uh, declare that Dr. Zean be vice chair.
Is there any objection to that? All right. Thank you, Miss Bulman. >> Miss Thompson, >> thank you. Um, for Cy Trunk Rising, I, as I said the last meeting, I'm
supportive of of doing selling the small piece of land. Um, I think having the opportunity for attainable home ownership in our community is so important and if we're able to offer that, we should take every step to go forward with that. Um, for seagull
options, I'm option three. Um, similar to what Dr. Dr. Holless's comments are um and that we are trying to make sure that we have a school system that can thrive and so we need to move in every direction to make that possible. Um I am
in agreement with the KCW building uh leasing out. Um I didn't see in the presentation how much is that going to cost to get like a real estate agent to lease that?
So, um, we I think the solicitation is finalized or in its final steps to bring to the board to to approve that solicitation for the commercial real estate agent or agency. So, I think that's coming up actually at the next um board meeting if I'm not mistaken or or
the one in August. But the the cost structure most likely is a commission um for for sale or commission also for lease. And have staff taken into consideration that will now be like the landlord to these tenants. So we'll have to do maintenance. Is there going to be
added cost of of kind of like a property manager for the levels or how is that going to roll out? >> Um I don't have all the specifics on on all the strategies, but we are a it'll be a turnkey operation. We already have our security. We already have maintenance in the building. So all
those key components we already have here. Um, and so that'll be reflected in the cost um to actually lease the space. >> So, we're not anticipating any hidden costs or surprises or major renovations we're going to have to do. >> That would be that would be uh uh bill to to sweep by by uh LEC.
>> Okay. >> Yes. >> And pay us for the buildout. >> Okay. And then um just some comments in general. I think um you know Dr. Holes is on the right track. We need to make our schools competitive and just
reminding the IB pathway for Fairway Elementary. Um, I would like an update on the Fairway Elementary playground. I know Mr. Dorset isn't here right now. Um, the last thing I was told was October. I just want to make sure that we are still on that pathway for that
new school. Does anyone have an update for that? >> Dr. Eron. >> Um, I know Miss Coley's here. I don't know if she has an update. If not, we can provide a followup. Okay, we'll we'll do a follow-up. I'm taking note of that for you, Miss Thompson. >> Okay. And then I think another thing to
uh consider when we're supporting our schools and our teachers and students through this transition um is how we're advertising that we help them. I think one of the I had brought a board item that we were going to do impact bargaining with the teachers. We were going to make sure that they got moved
in or settled. Um, can I get uh an update on how we supported teachers and staff through this transition? >> Go ahead, Dr. Lozano. >> Can you repeat that question, please? >> Yes. So, I think one of the concerns from the community when we're going
through redefining is making sure that we're supporting the teachers and staff that have been reshuffled due to this. Um, one of the items that I had brought was to do impact bargaining. Um, we also talked about making sure that teachers,
family members were reassigned accordingly that if we they needed help moving their district um, property to their new school, we were helping with that. There were several things that we listed and I had heard that not all of
that came to fruition. So I would like staff's um feedback on that. >> Yeah. So we worked with the teaching and learning directors. Mark Dad's team also coordinated. So as issues and concerns were brought up, whether it was an
individual school or an individual staff, whether it was a HR issue or a location issue, we were addressing those accordingly. And as of today, I don't have any outstanding current issues that have come to me regarding staff or
locations. >> Okay, >> nice job. >> And I can speak to the school choice piece. We absolutely worked with our employees um around if it was the actual school that they were moving to, if they needed the closest school. Um and we
absolutely worked with our families on the school choice piece. >> Yes. And I I heard rave reviews from the our staff, especially our ESC's department's ability to get parents into a program they felt was safe and best fit for their kids. Um, I also just
wanted to have a conversation about how we're approaching these community meetings because I think in the past we went in from this angle of we want to hear from you guys like what you want. We're not really sure. Um there was still the narrative that we knew what
was happening before we it was voted on but I I think by this point at least definitely in my district like we know what needs to be done. Um so what is going to be the approach of the district so that parents don't feel like well why
would I even come to a meeting because you guys already know. >> Um so I'll I'll start this conversation let Dr. wants to um finish up there. There's there's I heard both sides right at the community meetings. Um you know, we got uh feedback when we didn't come
with ideas and we got feedback when we actually um had ideas. So, it's going to be a balance. We're going to come with some options as well um based on, you know, our assessment and opportunities um for that specific site. And then we'll also listen to feedback to from
the community to actually address any specific needs or any unique ideas that they present to us that we haven't thought about. So I think it's this has to be a balance because we heard feedback from both angles when we did both. So good balance. >> I'll just um so um just to put a bow on
what Dr. Heburn said I I I think the the the slight difference this time um is we won't do the boil the ocean concept right and and what I mean by that is we have a a list of
five eight schools in an area that may no we we want to be concentrated on where where it is this is the conversation you know and working with the board listening to the board listening to the community so now this is where we this is the recommendation
that we have and I think that um you know the the more that our parents and our communities have began to see and understand that you know we're just not picking on a particular school so to speak and this isn't unique to Broward
County. you know, our colleagues to the south voted in June and closed nine schools. You th this isn't something that's unique to us and and and I think that the um our our public is coming more with the um with with the mindset of okay, we know that this is happening,
but can we tell you how we would like to see it happen or here, you know, and and I think that that that'll be um one of the stark differences this time. And I think another important element, especially when you bring up the school to the south, is they also voted or had to vote for five schools of choice to
move into their high schools. So that is still a a consideration that needs to be prominent in the community of of what's happening, what's happening with funding, what's happening on a federal level. Um, and I think it's not only staff's job, but board members jobs to educate the public on why we're having
to make these difficult decisions. Um and then did I cover all the four things you needed feedback on seagull cy trunk kcw. So um maybe not for today but but we want the board to be um thinking in
their to give us direction on which actual boardappointed committees do you want represented on the um bound the school boundary advisory committee which actually and again last year um you all
gave us seven and that'll you know put us at 17 and and that's fine. We just want to make sure that when we bring the resolution, we reflect what the board um said they would want to see on that committee. >> Is there going to be a meeting or do you
need this more or less? >> So, act so um when we come to the August 25th workshop is where we will do the final, but we want you to start, you know, we wanted to actually tee it up in your minds. >> Okay. Okay. >> And then, um can I get an update on
Glades and where we're at? Um, Mr. Dorset, that's his baby right now. He's He's not here. He's >> also my baby. [laughter] >> I know. Um, but um, we're I don't I don't know if Miss Coley has any any
specific information. >> Good morning, Sonia Copy. Uh, we are currently in the uh, design development phase. uh the cont uh the architect has submitted um a conceptual design. So uh we gave the go-ahhead to proceed to design development. So we should have
that ready and uh hopefully permitted by October. >> So we're we're in good pace. Um it's the design part that uh usually takes a lot of time. So we're in good pace to get some things done >> and I I really appreciate that. I think the community appreciates that as well.
And then my last thing, I was going to mention this and I probably will remention it at the end of the meeting. I'm actually doing a beautifification blitz throughout district 2 which is impacting all of and all the schools on that list are schools that are impacted by redefining. So Dr. Holes had brought
up like is the district making sure that these schools are are pretty and and ready to step in and they're doing an an amazing job. um Dorset and and David and I'm gonna forget everyone else, but they are doing a great job making sure that
these um issues are addressed quickly. Um but I wanted to invite my colleagues to participate in that. I'm going to send print out a flyer and bring it down at the end of the meeting. But all of these schools, the first week will be the beautifification, the curb appeal,
um all of that. And then the second week is the week that teachers come back. So, we're going to be helping these teachers move in that might have been resettled for another school. Um, and then on August 1st at 8:30 at Fairway Elementary, we're having a community day
where it will be a beautifification project and also a welcome to the community because as you guys remember, we closed Sunshine Elementary and all of those families are being reboundered to Fairway. I think it would show a lot of support if we could get the
superintendent at Fairway on Saturday at 8:30 and also um my colleagues for any for any of those events because I think when we move forward with this next rendition if we can show people that we don't just say that we care, we truly
care. Um and I know everyone's schedules so I'm not trying to shame anyone but I would really appreciate um the support and I think the community would as well. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Bulman. >> Thank you, chair. Um, and thank you for
your continued uh work on this. I um I'm very impressed just with the way that the process has been moving along. You know, we've been getting a lot of questions recently and it's nice to be able to answer them in a very proactive way that uh the district's been very
proactive. Um and so I think as in terms of you know putting uh staff into schools, renting out Casey, right, things of that nature. Uh and I think you know the more that we can kind of communicate that
this is happening the better because of uh recurring criticisms that are h you know it's like we're already doing this and it was very it you know the fact that we were um doing this before so
that we were in a good position to have solutions to fill space I think is just it's I I really commend you for that. So, um, good job. But I do think we need to let the people know that that's happening because again, I'm looking at these, um, the
surplus property and people I've just seen kind of complaining about, you know, when are we selling this? But obviously, we've been going through the process. So just to that point, so just you know for 17 and 18 with the that what is like what is the real timeline
between the time that we identify a property that we are going to surplus and when we can actually sell it just and I think that's something that the public needs to know too because there's there's quite a process involved in that. >> So what we can do um in Mr. to Dorset's
absence. We we we will work on a follow-up where we go in policy 8030 and actually um map out what a timeline is from from the time that the board declares that yep, we're going to we we want to surplus this process and what we
have to do as far as a plant survey and all of the things statutoily that must be done before it um the RFP or or if the board, you know, directs the superintendent to begin a direct negotiation or so we'll we'll look at policy 8030 and we will actually map that out and provide that.
>> And I think just some bullet points just so the public understands, you know, we've done we've identified the properties, but it's going to take some time before we actually get them to their next use, whether we're going to sell it or repurpose it for something else. So, thank you. Um, uh, one thing
that we opened the you opened the presentation with, uh, what is the status on procuring the master planner? Have has that gone out for? >> No, that actually goes out end of this month. Um, so the scope of work is pretty much finalized so we can
>> Great. Thank you. Um, and then kind of in the same process when we're talking about leasing space in a facility. Now, say we're not leasing the entire campus or entire building, but we were
just leasing a part of it. Is that um I think we [clears throat] did we passed that policy >> the last we haven't passed it. Is it coming up on 20 the 28th? Does that require just I can't remember off the top of my head. Would that require
competitive uh you know leasing or is that something where we like someone can just make an offer and we can lease the property to them without >> so I'll um and I I'll I'm looking at the
superintendent and the general counsel and they may defer. So I can talk about um for for example we have a couple of um lease agreements if you will with entities that are around in kind because
of the services that they are providing to our students to our families on our property. Um one of the ones that you know come to mind right away we just did one with the Journey Institute at um Broward Estates. We have one with community based connections for um like
the clinic spaces up at um at um Blanch High School as well as um William Dandy Middle School. So it what what we would do is we would um actually have to have the conversation to see what the board's
appetite is for a a particular space. And I know that the board um has been telling us here recently that they really are in the um in the um position of looking at market rates for leases. And so we would have to get direction
from the board if a particular entity wanted to lease a space, if you will, in a building that we we will still retain ownership and occupancy of part of the building. >> So and and I don't have a problem with that in kind. I was just thinking more
if say we have a potential tenant that wants to take space. Do we have any obligation to >> offer that as space to other is it a first come first-s serve basis basically are we going to operate as as though we're just a general
>> you know madam chair we have commercial property and then if someone comes and we want to lease it to them we can >> yeah this is not like a uh procurement process it will be first come first serve we'll get market race and whoever is interested they can come in and say that they're interested and we negotiate a lease agreement.
>> Okay, great. Thank you. Um and then uh so to Okay, so something uh that I that I think we might benefit from the the you know the P3 ID. I know we had a workshop about that when we were talking
about the um Dave Thomas site, but I don't know if we really talked about what a P3 is and what that means. So that I I think and I don't know if that would be a workshop or just you know some kind of a memo
that explains kind of the benefits and then the potential non-benefits of uh you know the benefits of going in a different direction so that we're making informed decisions about how you know I think that it's nuanced and so some
some sites would benefit more from a P3 versus you know doing a land lease or whatever, you know, we're we're doing. So, I don't know if that would be a workshop we could do. So, I just think the board needs to be educated on
what we're looking at before we make major decisions on land. Does anyone else agree with >> um certainly. So, um we can draft a briefing for the board um to go over P3s, true definitions, benefits,
detriments to the district. um you know and and the services we provide to communities and and um students. And then we can look at the workshop um calendar because we we sometimes like load workshops up and try to get things on. And then we can look at the workshop calendar to see if um we
can find a date to be more specific and probably just um >> squeeze it in with the one of the redefining uh workshops to be honest to put it in there. >> Okay. >> Yeah. But we'll send a briefing first and then follow up with work. Okay, that that would be great. Thank you. Um and
then okay, so let's see. Um so in terms of your questions that you had. All right. So if if we are selling the property for Cisrunk Rising, would that be with the
idea that the the properties would be sold to our employees or would this be offered up to the entire community? So it's my understanding the way the um their proposal is written the priority
is given to district employees. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So I um I would support that if it's very explicit that we're giving priority to district employees. And I guess we'd have to figure out kind
of what that would look like. >> Um Okay. Okay. And then the Casey, right? I think you know I I support I support um this movement. And I'm glad that we can say that we're doing this for the um I you know I noticed on the
slide that it said that the bright star lease is expiring. So is that going to so that's currently occupied by Bard Education Foundation or what are we do? >> So the the bright star space is the bank right here on the southeast corner.
>> Okay. right outside and you know people from the courthouse and all different access to bank um way back subway used to be down there. >> Okay. So, so you don't you don't anticipate a problem with us. Okay, great. Okay, cool.
>> Um, we'll find the best tenant for that. And then, um, the Seagull campus question, I you know, we still don't have any information to make a decision. Um, so I I I would love to see a little bit more analysis on, you know, the use of the
for the safety and security and what that would cost and what, you know, the benefits are to the community and for training. and then you know like kind of pending the memo about the P3s and what we want to because we still have to think about with a P3 you're still
adjacent to that school. So I don't um I just like to see more information on that and then um the and then I guess we'll get back to you with the committ but um I I do think that you know kind of um consolidating the process is a
good idea at this point. Um, and I agree with Miss Thompson that Mr. Dorset and his team has been doing a great job preparing the schools for reopening. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you, uh, Dr. Zean. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Sorry, I didn't uh I thought I
didn't catch capture Miss Bulman's feedback, but I did. Go ahead, Dr. Zean. >> Thank you. Um, Dr. Heburn. Uh I submitted a question a couple months ago asking about how many uh positions are we short uh for providing music, art, PE, and a
full-time librarian to every one of our 128 elementary schools uh in Broward County. Uh the answer back from your staff, which I appreciate was very, very prompt and thorough, amazingly detailed. absolutely wonderful uh response was we're 12 positions out of 24,000
employees in Broward County short of being able to make a commitment to everybody in Broward County that if you send your kids to a Ber County public school elementary school they're going to get music art PE and full-time librarian uh in their school. Um I know that you've been working on this uh along with Miss Johnson and others to to
see about the best way to do this. Um, can we uh accelerate any announcements that we have about that so that we can get the word out as soon as possible to people that are making decisions about enrolling their >> Yeah, we can we can accelerate. Um, we'll actually have a final answer this week. Um, uh, we met earlier this week
to kind of um, go through what I would probably say semi-final decision making just to make sure we're taking the best path forward um, to ensure that we can afford that opportunity to students at every school. but we'll um have a final um and the strategy of how we're going
to do so this week. >> Terrific. Uh I was trying to jump the shark a little bit, but I'll I'll wait until the report comes out. So, that's fine. I also asked a question, Mr. Superintendent, about what's the reasonable limit on repurposing. Uh you've been public about at least 10.
Um, I I want to remind everybody that's listening that we are repurposing schools because of the very first reason that's listed in policy 810 section 5 letter A number one, which is we can repurpose in order to balance the books of Broward County Public Schools.
This board cannot say we want to pay teachers what they deserve. We cannot say that we're dealing with this rapid decline in in uh enrollment and the concommmitant uh decline in revenue and then make decisions about giving away
land, giving away property, giving away houses, uh without recognizing what impact there is on the general fund. And so, uh Mr. Superintendent, when I asked the question, not the first question about uh music and art and PE and a librarian, but the second question about what the reasonable limit is. Do you
remember what the staff's response was in terms of elementary schools, middle schools, and high schools that could be done under the conditions that we had generally used before? >> No, I don't remember the specific number. >> Thank you for paying attention to my questions, Mr. Superintendent, but uh 13 elementary schools, eight middle
schools, and one high school. And the reason I bring that up at the beginning of my remarks is the superintendent has said at least 10. And I get that uh each school reduces our fixed cost by one and a half to5 million of recurring general fund revenue every year. Again, if
you're talking to the public about paying teachers what they deserve, if you're talking about giving students what they need, if you're talking about having uh schools that are closer to capacity, which in general deliver highquality academic, highquality social and emotional learning in their schools better than low enrolled schools, um
these are things that we have to look hard at. And I think that my question was intended to establish an upper limit. Uh and I hope that people in the community and people on this board and your staff, Mr. superintendent uh recognize that adjacent school capacity,
moving to a school that has higher academic performance um and limiting the impact on those that are affected while at the same time affecting all those other students we almost never talk about, which is the students then that get to go to one of our remaining schools, which is higher academic performing, better facilities clearance,
um and just overall better operating schools. Um, there is a tremendous benefit to the community, let alone the people who use the land that we free up for a higher and better use. When you think about the property at Northfor opening up, and I'm sorry if I forget the number yet. I think there's 300
affordable or workforce housing units that are being planned on Northark. Is that correct? >> I think that's in the ballpark. Yes. >> Right. So, if you have two or three people per housing unit, Mr. Sea, what's three times 300? 900, I think. Right. 900 Broward County residents. Yeah, I'm the math guy. I know. I thought I'd
throw you a bone. 900 people who are now going to have a better s place to live on a major transportation corridor in the middle of the beautiful city of Fort Lauderdale. Um, you know, there there's goodness that happens when we repurpose. I think, Mr. Superintendent, the
community, as my board colleagues have pointed out, are a little bit frustrated with the speed and agility. Uh, and I'm going to talk about that a little bit today. To Miss Bowman's point, um, about the process, I really really appreciate you bringing that up. There's one piece to that that I think this board has some
housekeeping to do on, which is at the beginning of this process, we have yet to bring a board item that we can discuss, make motions about, clarify, and pass with a vote that says that this is what we intend to do with the land.
Let's be clear about what we're doing at Northfor. At Northfor, we are not selling for market rates. We are selling for a dramatically discounted rate to allow for affordable and workforce housing to come in. If you want full market value, uh, sell it to a developer and let them come and do market based
with some affordable workforce according to the local rules on land use, but we need to look at that when it comes back. So, my vote on Cyrunk Rising, let's look at what the numbers are coming back on the land. I'm going to drop a bomb today. You ready? Has anyone talked to the city of Fort Lauderdale about making
that land a park? Has anyone noticed that there is no park on the north fork of the North River to service the thousands of people who are living in high density right across [clears throat] the street? I grew up on the back side of Cy Trunk Rising. I lived at Carter Park. That's
why I went to Dillard Elementary School. That's why I went to Lauderdale Lakes Elementary School. On the back side of that park, there's a beautiful area around Carter Park. Kids from all over my neighborhood growing up were at Carter Park every day at school. We didn't even go home. We'd go from school to Carter Park and we'd play basketball,
we'd play football, we'd run around. Uh I remember being kindergarten and my parents didn't even know where I was till dinner time because I had older brothers and sisters. But uh on the other side over um on the North Fork Elementary School, there is no park. And it sure would be great if someone thinks about maybe the city of Fort Lauderdale
would like to buy that land and make it into a waterfront park. Think about the affordable workforce housing people. They'll be living in that high density area. The people that are staying in that hotel and the thousands of people that live right behind. They're in very, very high density. I think they're all rental apartments. They may be condos
now, but I think it's a very high density apartment area right behind there. Um, and they have no park on their side of the river. And so, it's just something that I'd like to think a little bit about. Uh, because we've got to make sure that we develop that land in a way. So, may I just add that in the So, I do know that in the proposal that
the board did receive from CIS Trunk Ryzen, they do contemplate putting a park for public use and that I I just want to put that there. I know that they have the housing and all of that and but there there is the um uh concept of a park in in the proposal that they
presented as well. >> And their park is, you know, a pocket park around um some remains that may or may not be there. What I'm talking about is um reflection of the fact that riverfront property in Broward County is scarce as hens teeth. And so where you have waterfront
property, you got to make sure you do something that accentuates the public access to the waterway. And uh when you sell it as housing, you are delimiting that access because the owner of the house has access to the waterway. That's great. If you live on the water, that's wonderful. I like the idea of the community being able to come down and
and access that historic uh riverfront property. It's just, I think, worth examining. I have not talked to anybody about it. It's not my job to do that. Uh but part of my job is to throw out ideas and and see if in fact um you know that that might make some sense down the road.
So to Miss Bulman's point, when the process comes back, Miss Bulman, I think there is some uh thought we might want to give to our policy. You know, if the community is concerned about speed and agility, we have policies that are slow and bureaucratic. Um, right now when we
asked about an appraisal for a property, the answer, formal answer came back and said, "The best we can do is two and a half months. I can get a commercial appraiser in two hours, not two and a half months. I can close on a commercial property and get a full appraisal in two hours. It's so
accurate, it'll make your eyes water." We have created a system that makes this very slow. And what's the cost to us if we delay the amount of money that we get back and we delay the decision-m? I also think, Mr. Superintendent, if you don't mind, a formal follow-up. I think we need to do more about repurposing the
beginning in board meetings. We need to make formal votes, formal decisions, formal discussions, and in general, what I think we ought to uh make a decision about early on is what is the plan for for the property? The city comes and talks to us. The county might come and talk to us. Uh local businesses may come
and talk to us. Uh maybe some constituents even come talk to us. At some point, I think this board could give you direction and say, "This needs to be a regional library. this needs to be a transportation hub. This maybe needs to be a park uh because it's on the waterfront. Then your staff has enough uh working space, you know, to go
out and find out some more. So, could I ask that as a follow-up, Dr. Eert? >> Um, as far as specificity of the followup, what's the what's the information that you actually need? >> Uh, the question is, what would be appropriate for the board decide early on in repurposing so that your staff has
the right and left margins about what the board thinks that the land should be used for? Um, in some cases we'll say whatever makes the most money. In some cases we'll say, uh, we hear from the community, we hear from the city, we hear from the county, hear from business leaders. Uh, we talk about it, we make
some motions, and we say, uh, it ought to be this. It ought to be affordable workforce housing for our staff. It ought to be, um, something, but we need to know more information. But in general, um, we get going down the road. We're at the point now where we're negotiating to see what we're going to get from the people who have made a
great proposal about Cyrunk Rising. Um, but we haven't really explored kind of the loss of revenue we're going to have because we're using this as affordable workforce housing for our staff. Um, so to me, I want to make sure that we agree as a board that we we agree that this is
the highest and best use for any land that we're disposing of. And then to Miss Bulman's process point, we ought to create a policy or accept the policy we have if the board wants to that just says, you know, we're going to go super slow and bureaucratic, you know, in terms of moving out on this land right now.
uh whether it's 10 or somewhere between 10 and 22 repurposings for this year. Um there's going to be a lot of work for the staff to do on uh disposing of property through any one of the methods that we've talked about and there's a lot of really really great ones. But I think that the board needs to get past just talking about these things at
workshops where we talk and get consensus. Um and and where I see a decision point is uh is um uh when when we have to kind of give you direction about you know what is our concept what's our highest and best use for that
land. So if you just consider that and come back with us I'd really appreciate it. >> You want to ask I I think I can answer it now. So when when the su so we we go through all these workshops right and get com get direction from the board public input all of that and then and
then the superintendent brings a formal recommendation that the board votes on. So instead of so in one of the um uh um items that'll say you know that we the the board votes to repurpose um XYZ
middle school for another district use. No, it's right there in the board item. the board has voted to repurpose um blue yellow green middle school as a P3 opportunity with and then there the you know make the motions do the I I I I
think it is we've heard we've done and now the superintendent is bringing a formal recommendation based on all the conversations that we've had and then >> and I appreciate that as a description of the current process. What I'm suggesting is that we consider something that's different where early in the
process the board makes a decision about what the highest and best use of the land is and then we have workshop discussions within that so that we end up within a a much closer proximity to what it is. I feel as a board member just to bit put it out there that we talk and talk and talk and get consensus
and before too long we're all of a sudden making very very detailed decisions about things when in the beginning as a board we weren't able to use the board's authority to say look if you're going to dispose of this property here's what we like or here's two options that we like and give you
direction so that then you have the board stamp of approval at the very beginning about where we go. then the workshop conversations are much more bounded and the board has an opportunity to tell the superintendent what we think the best options are going forward. >> So, so um I like the conversation Dr.
Zaman. So, conceptually um let's um I'm going throw out a school that we've already redefined. Um let's say Palm Cove >> um let's say uh so um just processing um the discussion. So Palm Cove instead of going through what we've gone through, we will bring Palm Cove to the board
first and uh make a decision on best use if we want to surplus or if we want to transition it uh to another district use and then uh staff would go out to community meetings and as such um and
and discuss options best uh based on what the board says is the best use. I think that that would allow the board to have the authority that's vested in state law for the board and it allows your staff then to work um you there's an earlier comment about what are we going to say when we go out to the
community and I think a wonderful answer was we're going to talk about things in a very tight shot group of what the art of the possible is and kind of around that. Um, I think that the board needs to have the authority to say at the very beginning that this school uh could
either be this because we really feel strongly about this site. We're getting tons of input from the city um and the city and us, you know, have a very uh shared kind of um objective of what we're doing and so we agree with the city in this one case uh that it ought to be that. Um, and then the staff has
the ability to kind of work within that and then we don't get any surprises that just happened as a result of a lot of I would say less formal, you know, kind of votes along the way. I just would view it as a much uh closed thing. I'll give you one example. I get a lot of calls
about people shocked that we're selling a piece of land. And I'm like, how do you not know? Like, don't you listen to schoolboard meetings? and they're like, "Uh, hey, every organization in the world, if they're selling land, they they list it in a commercial listing place. You guys don't do that." Well, we need to do that
because if there's a buyer out there and we're just if the board has said, "All we want to do with this land in Plantation, for example, almost 12 acres, beautiful piece of property, we're going to clean it up. Thank you for getting the grant, whoever in the grant space did that. That's wonderful. Uh, thanks for D for providing the
money." But why isn't that listed on a commercial site? because we can get hundreds of people coming and looking that and they can put together their own ideas about what they would like to do. I disagree with our general counsel wholeheartedly that first come first serve is a good idea. I just do I I I don't feel like we want
to sell land for whoever shows up and knocks on Casey Wright first in the morning. That's I doubt that was the intent of the answer, but I'm afraid people heard that we're going to do first. >> Talking about leases leases. >> I don't care if we're talking about leasing, selling, or giving it away. I don't think we get to the right person
on the other side of the relationship if we have first come first serve. I don't understand that concept in in terms of a business practice. Uh I understand highest and best use. I understand competitive solicitations. Um you know the marketplace works. Why the marketplace works? Because the person who values the land the most will pay
you the most. And so the land gets to the highest and best use. when you limit competition, when you limit the biders, when you do anything like first come, first serve, uh you're not doing what the community needs or or what this district needs in terms of financial redress. So, um I I'm just I I feel like
and this is a board, not not a person, but I feel like earlier in the process, if we have an ability to do it as a board item for what we think the either one idea or multiple ideas are for any uh surplus property, I think that the path forward is going to be more efficient. I believe if we do 10 or
whatever number we do repurposings this year, uh we need to have to Miss Bowman's point a process uh that that is consistent with what we need to do. >> I'm I'm calling you out if you want to interrupt. >> Just to clarify, the the first come first serve was on leasing space inside
of a facility, not selling. >> I don't like first come first serve for leasing individual. >> Well, I mean in a period of time if you had a >> I'm just I'm stating my opinion. Okay. Uh, I I've never seen anything that does first come, first serve that gets to the right people. All it does is get to the
people are willing to stand in line at three in the morning. That's not who I want. I it might be it might not be the right uh way to refer to it, the most accurate way to refer to it, but I you know in any kind of process if you're selling a
piece of property or renting a or leasing a piece of property, advertise it and um and then >> first person that strikes your price, the best deal comes along. >> Yeah. Um, >> yeah. Yeah. I just don't want the public to be confused that we're going to, you know, consider I I would not consider uh
using that concept as a way of finding the right people to lease a property or buy a property. >> But if but if if there's a condition and it's a price and and first it applies that can pay the price, that's great. >> Uh but I I just want to clear that. I don't think it's a >> if you're paying the right price. I
mean, because otherwise if we open it up forever, I mean, then we're never going to lease anything because they'll be that'll take longer. I think >> I I think we should list property that's for sale to the general public because there's a lot of people out there that would like to buy buy property and they don't know that our stuff is for sale.
So, um that's great. Let me answer a few of the specific questions. Um on Casey Wright, uh another disagreement I have maybe with the consensus here, but I have for four years and I will forever remind us that we work in spaces that
our staff does not have the ability to use. We have a palace on a river in downtown Fort Lauderdale. I would rather be at a recycled school site where we can follow the Pentagon's process and I would put lots of staff on a school site
in commercially available space so that everybody that works for Broward County Schools as administrator works for the superintendent, the chief auditor or the general counsel can be in one place. That's possible on a school campus. There are school campuses in the middle of Broward County. I mean, I live right down the street, so this is great for
me. Uh, but for Adam's constituents, for constituents that live in Parkland and Deerfield Beach, this is not a convenient space. I do not like Brower County Schools as a government agency living in a 14-story Crystal Palace in downtown Fort Lauderdale. And I always will oppose that. I don't believe
government agencies should uh have space like this. Why what's the evidence in favor of getting rid of this, Mr. Superintendent? What's the market value of Casey Wright? >> Um, I think it was what was the market value? Was it 70 60? It was 85 million.
>> Yeah. What would it cost to build a brand? It's >> about$85 million. >> What would it cost to build I mean we just spent $99 million rebuilding all of Fort Lardio High School right now. That was years ago. So I'm sure it's double that now. But $85 million I think will build a brand new middle school at least. >> Yeah. >> So that's that's why I think, you know,
we got to think hard about this. I hope this is a transition. We can lease, you know, floors at a time right now if if we find people that are willing to do that. Um, but I also think uh long term we need to be in Central County. We need to be in a space that looks like it was
made for a school board, a humble school board that is in in dire need of more money. Uh we continue to make a silk purse out of a sal's ear when we come to work every day in this building. Um it looks like, you know, we're not um you know, being consistent with the things
that we're saying. So I that's just my own uh view of of this building. So shortterm great. Long term, I hope we find a way to repurpose a campus so that we can drive onto a campus every day to remind us who we serve here, which are students and families who are enrolled in our schools. Um, Mr. Superintendent,
when do we get collect cash for the $14 million minus closing costs that we're going to get from Broward Health? So, um I So, I I know that we were um there there was a um request for there were some signature pages and things that the s the superintendent and the
board chair had to sign. We will give you a follow-up um by the end of today, Dr. Zam, so that you have that answer today. >> It's sometime in the next 30 to 60 days. >> Yes. >> Oh, that'd be great. >> So, yes. >> Thank you. Uh Mr. Superintendent, have you thought about hoteling space for
people who live in um different places of our county but have to drive a long way to get to their workplace as administrators on your staff? >> Hoteling expound on that concept? >> So you you know we have space and we're moving entire functions to space, right?
>> But sometimes we move a space. I think there's one space that may be in Pemrook Pines that we're taking up with some staff space. We're going to ask people in Deerfield to drive now to Pemrook Pines to go to work every day. We have excess space in Broward County Schools. Last time someone checked, right? We
have thousands and thousands of classrooms and desks and chairs that we could be using right now for our staff. Have you ever thought about creating a a hoteling space in Deerfield Beach so that some days a week that person doesn't have to drive an hour and a half
back and forth to work but can go to a >> You're saying satellite offices. >> You can call it whatever they want. Business >> We actually do that now. Yeah. But do we do it enough? >> Like does everyone in Broward County know that if they can get their supervisor degree, they can go to a work closer to their house? So, it's all dependent on the function,
the job function um of of where they need to be, the equipment, the the IT infrastructure. There's a lot of complexities that determine if a person can use use a satellite office office more often than not um than going to the actual office that has has all the
equipment in. >> I hope we I hope we continue to encourage it. It's a tremendous way to get our most dedicated employees, which is almost all of our employees, uh to get more time available for work. Because if I'm commuting from Pemrook Pines to Deerfield or Deerfield to Penrook Pines, it's easy 45 minutes.
Sometimes it's an hour. Now, um if I can get that hour and a half or two hours back, often I'm dedicating it to my work. I'm dedicated uh to my work. Um so, to the extent that we make that available to more people, uh I think it'll be one way to deal with a thousand
fewer administrative positions because, uh more people find more time to work. I know that your your staff is incredibly dedicated to what they do. I am so impressed with the increase in inspiration that I've seen in staff uh in Brower County, but I' I'd love to
just find more and more ways to capture goodness out of that inspiration. Uh Miss Dr. WA, you've asked about some specific things on slide 31. I've told you what I think about Cyrunk. Our board needs to be clear that, you know, we've accepted less in a lease payment for the
Cyrunk Rising primary land, the 90% that's going to be a hotel and a affordable workforce housing. It'll be interesting to see how much we're contributing. Uh that um when it comes back to us, I will not vote until I have some kind of market appraiser for that
land. And then we're going to look at what the what the um annual cost is going to be. and I will support uh that process. I like that project. It's a really really very innovative use of that space, but I'm going to ask for some time limits on how long it's going
to take. I don't want to do another development where it's seven or eight years before we get u dirt moving. I hope that we can get some kind of um incentives uh to move that forward. On Seagull, I have a different view than my colleagues. I think we ought to get the
best offer on an annual basis for Seagull. I think eventually seagull and widen is going to become something. Maybe it's an expanded widen. Maybe it's a uh an amazing uh it's an amazing piece of land and every time you cut land you diminish the overall value of the land.
So if we keep it together as one piece for the time being I think that there's going to be an amazing future to that land and the same uh hope that I have about Casey Wright. Um I gave you uh my thoughts I think on the last two items on Casey Wright. Shortterm I'm fine.
long term, I hope that the board uh comes around and that and that we move uh to a campus to reflect what our core uh mission is. And I think and and get all of our staff in one place except for the people that are hoteling. Um on redefining, the big change that I would
have is I'd like the board early on to set you on a more efficient path. If we are going to do at least 10, we're going to need a more efficient path. We can't just say, "Oh, here's 10 sites, you know, go around and see what happens." I want you to to have a more
defined regular process that's uh reflects kind of good business practices because that's what we're doing in this case. We're liquidating land. We ought to follow what other government agencies have done in terms of their best practices. >> Um if if if Beacon can put the
presentation up and go to slide 29. So, if you look at the September 22nd schoolboard workshop, there may be an opportunity to do something in that space where it's it
may be a special schoolboard meeting. I mean, we'd have to sit down if that's what the board really wants us to do, right? if we get that and look at that September 22nd space and see how we use that opportunity with the board to do um what you have described
>> and the reason I really um am in favor of this board decision early on process is it may let's just pick a number and say we do 10 schools this year it may be very wise for this board to say for two of these sites we really want to take less money and we want to do affordable
housing they're in a place where great housing supply is required and it's better for the overall community and we know we're going to lose money as a result of it but we also want to do things that are good for the whole society not community not just for ourselves. um if we never get the chance to say that at the beginning, the process
drifts a little bit in my mind. We end up doing workshops. We got 10 now instead of, you know, a much smaller number. Um I'm worried that we wouldn't be making kind of the best systemic decisions. Uh but we might be making individual decisions that make sense until we see them in in in combination.
We say, "Holy cow, we gave away $27 million worth of general fund." and Ro Johnson screaming at us about the 3% and um you know we have to put all these things together in one big uh sock and make sure that we're making great decisions for the community. So, uh, if we can find that and if my colleagues
agree, I'd love to have some kind of ability early on, uh, to make some decisions about kind of what, the what the options are for each one of the sites that we have, >> right? >> Any other uh I'm sorry, chair. Anything else I need to give input on? >> I think uh, no, we're good.
>> Thank you, ma'am. >> Uh, Mr. Sea. >> First off, thank you to staff for the presentation and for the uh the data points. Appreciate you putting everything together in a package for us to be able to review and keep us up to speed.
I have some questions. um we closed or we repurposed um six schools which was a very difficult decision that this board had to make. Um, I'd like to know as we see
it here today, what is going on with um the majority of them and I'm going to go one by one and I'd like you to provide to me and perhaps more importantly the public a very detailed description about what
exactly is going on in these facilities. So, let's start with Sunshine Elementary. So, at Sunshine Elementary, the um the current staff that is at Rock Island Professional Development uh Center, which we sold to, uh the Urban League,
that the majority of that staff, meaning the um capital programs, the building department, the chief fire official, um and the majority of those functions are going to move from that Rock Island, that whole complex that we've already sold to the Sunshine Elementary School
complex. How many individual employees are we talking about? >> I'm looking at Miss Coley. I have to tell I I don't know the exact number, but it's it's well over a hundred because you have the um you also
have the um the the team that we work with out of a com there. It's a it's a it's a pretty it's well over >> we'll get you the exact number, but you have the program managers team. U ACOM that's that's also there as well. >> What's the total capacity of Sunshine
Elementary? >> Hold on one second. I believe it's like what? Six. >> Students >> and student stations at 7:49. I was supposed to say six. >> Okay. So 749 students were able to
occupy the building which I think is probably a little low because I would imagine the building code you know you have to account for teachers, administrators, schoolbased staff, things like that. So I would pin it maybe closer to eight or 900 people can occupy that building and without
violating the fire marshall or without running a foul of any county code. Is that fair? >> If that that's where you want to put it. I I don't I'm not certified to do that today, but I I'll >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, basically, we have a building, let's call it 800 for sake of this conversation. We have a building that
can house 800 people and we've got a hundred people in there more or less. >> But you you have to look at the context when you say student stations. You have, you know, uh elementary school um 20 something students in rows or desk or on
carpet. So, it's it's the the functionality is totally different when you talk about student stations versus adults that have a lot of equipment um uh capital programs with their big drawing machines and and other things like that. So, it all depends on the context of functionality as far as how
you occupy the building. >> So, here's what I'd like um as we go through the list. This is going to be a recurring request for a follow-up. Um, I'd like to know for the purposes that we're using these buildings right now, how many adults with their equipment and
machinery and drawing machines or whatever it is that they're using could we house in these facilities and not violate the the fire marshall code for being uh over capacity? And we'll start with Sunshine. Um
next question miss um Wanza to Panther Run Elementary. What do we do with Panther Run? >> So Panther Run is where we are going to move um several departments out of the te the current technology u building on
um Oakland at or about university that we have s declared a surplus and it's up um going to be you know uh for sale. We are moving um several departments from that building into Panther Run. >> Okay. And how many district staff members more or less we talking about?
>> We'll have to get you that. But it's it's it's departments like food service. Um at one time it was going to be procurement. It'll be something else. The the the business support center. There are major functions in TSSC that we're going to move um out to that
space. But we we will get you the exact um staff roster. Well, department. Do you think it's between 100 and 200 staff members? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And um I guess we'll go with the student capacity gauge again. What's the student capacity gauge for um Panther
and Elementary? >> Hold on one second. >> 778. >> Okay. Uh same question, Miss Wanza with Palm Cove. So, Palm Cove is going to be um a branch campus, if you will, of Sheridan Technical College, and they
will use every ounce of that space. >> Fantastic. Glad to hear. Uh I think I know what's going on with Northfor. Um Plantation Middle, same question. Plantation Middle School is where um uh the uh district um safety security
operations uh um I our ISD division part the major hubs in ISD as well as um tenatively right now also our um benefits and employment services department. >> Okay. And uh once again, is it fair to assume between 100 and 200 district staff members?
>> Maybe. Um yeah, maybe a little bit more there. But the one thing that I will say that is a unique difference um when you talk about moving the ISD division, and I don't want to speak for uh Mr. Bradford. He can certainly do that. But now you're talking about data centers and all kinds of things that have to go
into that building. So we can't just do a onetoone um warm body calculation, if you will. And I'm going to pause you right there, um, Dr. Wansa, because I think that's more closed door. >> Okay. Right. >> Um, information. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Fair enough. Well, let's, uh, let's keep it there. We won't, uh, we
won't pry it. Let me ask one follow-up question. On P, excuse me, on Plantation Middle student capacity gauge, where are we at numbers wise? >> Hold on one second. >> 806. >> 806. >> Okay, fantastic.
So, here's where I'm getting at. Um, I went to a lot of these town hall sessions. I listened to the community. I listened to the parents. I listened to the kids. I listened to the teachers. I listened to the admins. And um, we made a difficult decision as
a board to close or to repurpose a lot of these schools. I've kind of just run through the list very briefly, but I think everyone is pretty much well aware of what we did and how it was being affected. Let me tell you why I'm a little
disappointed in uh hearing what we are actually doing with these facilities. I would bet a rather large sum of money if I'm a gambling if I were a gambling man, which I am not, that the reason or excuse me that a lot of thoughts that
the public had on this was that these schools would be once they were closed or repurposed or whatever that there would be some use to make these properties income generating in some way, shape or form, whether land was sold off, whether we lease certain
things or whether we do something. And um I'm going to take Norfolk out of the equation because I think we're on the right path with that and uh I've been on record saying that I support that uh project and I'm looking forward to hearing the uh final details and the proposals on that. But taking them out
of the equation, um I'm not hearing any plans to make any of these properties income producing for this district. Now I know you uh are probably going to counter this by saying, "Well, Mr. Rivera, we're we're putting a lot of staff people in there and we're um
reassigning and we're doing this and we're doing that. So, I'm going to jump the gun and I'm going to uh ask you if that is the case, which it sounds like it is, where were all these people coming from to in order to be housed there? And in those spaces that they are
now leaving, is there any opportunity for us to lease or sell those spaces to make any money for this district? >> So, thank you. Um, the first thing I will say is, um, and we can go through all the presentations and all the
videos. I don't think I ever said that these, um, school facilities were being sold as income generators for the district. I I don't think I ever communicated that. Um the the second thing I will say is the TSSC building, the TSSC building and the TSSC annex
where these individuals will be coming from moving into one or one of these facilities. Those buildings are going up for sale for it to be income generators for the district. The second thing, um, the the district already sold the Rock
Island complex several years ago and they were, you know, generous enough to give us time to transition staff out. So, that building has already been sold. Um and the um uh Palm Cove facility
where Sheridan Technical College will be um uh operating a branch campus absolutely will be an income revenue generator for the district. But we were very transparent um when we when when when the board voted and when we've been
having uh workshops ever since the board voted about what these spaces would be used for, we were very transparent with the board and the public and I'll defer to the superintendent for the rest. >> Yeah. So, I'll just put an exclamation mark on that. Um as well as this building too. We're moving staff out of
this building to lease out um floors for to in to generate income um for the district as well. and the short-term sol Dr. Dr. Zema said short-term solution for right now and whatever the board comes to consensus on in the future about this building. Um but there are
one two three four five buildings um that folks are vacating that are income generating concepts for the district to relocate staff in order to be able to do that. Well, this this is good news and
this is why I ask these questions because I want the public to be completely informed um about how this sort of feeder pattern is happening. Right. People are leaving one building. They're going these to the facilities and you're telling me I think it was a T is it the TSSC
building is going to be potentially sold and the major all the people that are leaving there are going to be re situated or rehoused in um these repurposed schools. So there is in fact sort of a a a path that we can tell the
public or explain to the public that this in fact this decision will ultimately in one way shape or form result in income being generated to this district which I think is very important. So I just want to make sure we're clear on that. Dr. Wanso, was my statement accurate?
>> Your statement is accurate. >> Fantastic. Um I want to segue into this building first and foremost. Um, I appreciate the data on this, but I have been very vocal about where I stand uh on this building
and what should be done with it. If we have to close our school buildings for our teachers and our students, I don't think we should get the benefit of having this crystal palace in the sky as some of my uh colleagues like to refer to it. >> [sighs]
>> I'm looking at these options on the presentation today and noticeably absent is a direct option to go directly to a sale of the property. I know we've looked at comps before. Memory will tell me that I think the number is around
[snorts] $85 million, but for purposes of today, it looks like we're only talking about perspective leasing. And um I've got a couple questions uh about that. First and foremost, this chart, at least the version that I had
printed out over the weekend when I was preparing for the meeting today, looks like it was prepared in February. And if you look on the bottom right hand corner of the comp sheet or the the sheet that's entitled lease value
analysis, multi-ter pricing, the bottom right hand corner on my version, it says February 27th, 2026. Mhm. >> So, um, we know real estate in the South Florida market is a very fastmoving game
and prices of of buildings today may be completely different a week from now. I'm just wondering why we're relying on data from 5 months ago. >> So, that is the most recent one that we have to give us a gauge of what um
potentially is is the floor, not the ceiling. And so um that is that is why that data is there. Obviously when we get to the place and working with and we procure the services of a of a commercial realtor those numbers will undoubtedly look a little different but this is the actually to give like a
floor not a ceiling. >> Okay. Fantastic. And I did some quick math when um we were going over this and my understanding that the proposal that um I think you're seeking either direction or consensus today is the
opportunity to rent floors 3 4 5 6 7 8 and 9. Is that accurate? >> That is correct. >> Okay. And if we look at I'm taking the average here. I know there's different columns and there's a highest and a mid-range and all that good stuff, but I'm looking at the average
um square footage of 28.88 88 and I'm following the columns down and um I see this as roughly 283 and some change uh as the average uh yearly
income generation for uh I mean basically all the floors 3 through9 I think maybe the six floor is a little higher but mostly we're talking about $283,000 if we go mid or if we go average correct Yeah, correct. Per floor.
>> Okay. And when you tally up those 1, two, three, four, five, six, seven floors at that 285, the 283 number, um, that comes to roughly 1.9 million and and some change. So, if in fact we were
to enter into those average numbers, it's safe to say that this district would be netting um well, I shouldn't say netting because I'm surely there's going to be some carrying costs as a landlord, but we should be generating about roughly 2 million a year if we go
with this lease proposal. >> Yes. >> Okay. And uh again, the last comps that you saw on this would indicate that the building and the land is worth about 85 million, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. So,
in my mind, [sighs] operating in a district that has roughly a hundred million deficit on a $5.4 billion budget that may even go up depending on what happens this afternoon. $85 million sounds very, very appealing
to me. So, um, I guess the question is, Mr. superintendent, how do we reinvigorate this conversation about a potential sale as opposed to wasting time [music] talking about renting, you know, six or seven floors for, you know, a million or
1.9 if we're lucky, assuming these numbers are the same, as opposed to getting some actual real dough that will bring relief, potentially help us get out of this deficit, pay our teachers, which is something that we desperately
need to do. And again, if we can't keep our school buildings open, I don't think we should be perusing in this building. I think it needs to be sold. I think we need to reinvigorate that money back and help get this district back on uh a
fiscally responsible track. So, how do we re-engage this conversation about a potential sale, Mr. Superintendent? >> So, um just to be honest with you, I will leave that up to a the board or a board member. We've crossed this juncture several times before and there
has never been any consensus to sell this building. Um and so as a result, we've taken the strategy of providing options to lease. Um when the board has the appetite um collectively to surplus
and sale, um staff is here. We're and and uh we'll facilitate the process. But um there hasn't been a there hasn't been an appetite for the majority of the board um to sell this building. >> Well, unfortunately, there's only like three of us here now. So, um I'm not
sure a consensus would would do much in this particular workshop. Um however, I would like to make a request. I'd like updated sale comps, Mr. Superintendent, on the uh prospective sale of this
building. I'd like something taken over the summer. I don't want to rely on data from January or or February. Um, I'd like an updated comp. I'd like to know in real time what we're perspectively looking at as far as what this building could be uh worth in the event of a
sale. And I think perhaps seeing those updated numbers may reinvigorate some discussion about a potential sale as opposed to selling this and making, you know, $2 million if we're lucky, which I mean, listen, $2 million is is a lot of
money. Uh I don't think anybody is is debating that, but you know what's better than $2 million? >> $85 million. So I'd very much like to see that, Mr. Superintendent. And uh perhaps there's an appetite and perhaps there's not. I've been very vocal. I've
been very clear about what my position is. I think this building needs to be sold like a week ago. And I think we need that money to reinvest in this district, help get us out of this financial rut and start actually being able to be fiscally responsible and
generating some dough and getting us out of this. Thank you. >> Not a problem. And if I can clarify for the public and and also u for you, Mr. Seivera. Um so we'll get that updated um comp information um for the board um and the public. Um just to be specific so the public has a clear understanding
when we sell a building we only generate capital funds for that. When we lease we generate general fund. Um capital funds are you you can't pay uh teacher salaries and all those wonderful things that we want to do uh with with that
type of revenue. It's very restricted on what we can do and as you heard Dr. Zean spoke about earlier is selling the building to build something else which you can do but you can't use the capital funds um to to uh pay uh salaries as such for the large scale that um I think
you're talking about with for assisting teachers and such. >> Well, you know how I feel about teacher salaries. >> Yep. >> Um I've got a couple more questions if I may. Um I apologize. I don't recall which page it was on on the presentation, but
I want to talk about Dr. Wanza, your your proposed timeline for moving into this next round here, if you will. Um, my notes indicated that by the end of August, August 25th, I think was the exact date, you wanted to have a finalized list of schools to be
examined. Then in September and October, you wanted to conduct uh stakeholder engagement. By November 4th, you wanted to present the community input and the committee recommendations. November 5th, you wanted the super to
issue his final recommendations. And in December 15th, you wanted this board to vote. Is that accurate? >> That is correct. >> Okay. So, in in your mind, I think we're operating at like hypers speed here. Um, and I certainly appreciate the diligence
in wanting to get this um, resolved one way or another. And obviously, nobody knows how the the board will ultimately vote or the decision that will ultimately um, be made. That being said, let me tell you what my um, issue is, and I'm interested to see if my
colleagues share this concern. Making the decision to close or repurpose a school is a very difficult one. It affects communities in ways that um you know is is very deep. There is a sense of of pride and community in a lot of these schools. Can't tell you how
many parents and and family members I met during the last process that you know my aunt went here, my cousin went here. You know, some cases my mom went here and now I'm going there. So these are very um deeply rooted into our community. A lot of these schools and I
feel like this process needs to be very very interactive. I don't feel this is something that should be done um in in a manner to to race to get to the finish line if you will. My concern with this
and actually before I continue, how many public forums did we have the last go around at how many different schools? >> So I want to um if you will, five generations of my family have gone to school here. So this is very personal for me too. So, so I want to I I just
want to say that the second thing I want to say is um I my team and I at the you know obviously working through the superintendent don't see this as light speed because the only thing that we've done is move from a January decision to
a December decision and quite honestly parents have been telling us the sooner they know the better and could we please align this process with how the private schools and other entities do their process. So the only thing that we were
doing was trying to be respectful and responsive to all of the feedback that we have received and now this will be our third year doing it. Um I can tell you last school year and the year before the reason why we had so many community
meetings is because we went out with the we just want to hear from you. What do you think? We don't know. We this is now our third time going through this and what the community has also told us is this is traumatizing. Can you please just do this and get it
over with? So we are trying to be respectful and balancing all of that feedback so that we are being respectful to the community. So last school year we had upwards of collectively about 13 meetings. Um the year before it was
somewhere around that same 10 to 12ish. It was a lot of meetings and it was very um um taxing and emotional on the community. So um the reason why we we obviously want to look at a different
process in that if there are pockets and areas of the community that we do not have to upset, get emotional, get involved, then then we want to take a different approach in doing that. And so that is why we said look at a more regional approach to having the
conversation with very specific um schools and options and opportunities that we want want to address. So that's why you see um some some uh different approach maybe to this school year and a
timeline that is only reduced by one month. So, thank you for that and I do agree that this is something that we don't want lingering for an infinite period of time and decisions have to be made. But let me tell you, Dr. Wanzo, what my concern is because maybe the feedback that you guys are hearing is a little
different than the feedback that I'm getting. Right? So, here's my concern. If we're going to make decisions like this, I want to make sure with as much certainty as possible that every parent, every teacher, every student, every admin, every cafeteria worker, every
janitor [clears throat] who steps foot into these schools has an adequate equal opportunity to address this board, your team, the superintendent, the deputy superintendent, whoever they feel they need to be in front of to get their
opinions heard and their voices heard. heard. I want to make sure they have that opportunity cuz I got to tell you, there are times in this district and we're dealing with a policy right now where the community thinks that we don't give a darn about what they have to say.
So, I want to make it crystal clear to these folks that at least for this board member, I care very much what you have to say. and I'm going to give you an opportunity to come before me, to come before my colleagues, to come before our superintendent and give me your two
cents. And the reason I struggle with this plan, even though I understand there's a need for finality, and we don't want this hanging over our head, is we need to make sure that every person who wants their voice heard on this very important matter has that
opportunity. So, if you and your team can commit to me that they will be given multiple opportunities to address us, address you, and address him, I will feel a lot better. I just want to make sure we're not just rushing through this because we need to make a decision and
and there's people who just don't get come out and they can't speak. People have jobs, people have family commitments, people have kids that they have to take care of. They if we're doing one or two meetings, they may not be able to come to that. I'm not suggesting that 13 is the magical
number. I'm not. And I do agree with you. This doesn't need to linger for years and years and years. However, when it comes for public participation and public comment, you know how I feel about that and you know how important that is to me and to my constituents and
to the entire county. Forget my constituents, my entire the everybody I represent in this county. It's important that they have an opportunity to address the people that govern them in these types of decisions. So I want to make sure in this expedited plan I'll call it
I won't call it light speed I'll call it expedited plan that's going to take core to take what five months that everyone every mom every dad every auntie every cousin every employee and every student is going to have ample opportunity to
address this board and address your team and give us their two cents because that's very very important to me as you know there were schools that were quote unquote on the list last time that did not uh that didn't make the the final cut, if you will, for a lack of better
terms, right? Because their communities came out and maybe that influenced some of my colleagues decisions in in their votes. I have no idea. But I want to make sure that these people have the opportunity and I don't want to put this thing out. Well, this is a foregone conclusion. It's going to happen. We don't care what you have to say. Your
input doesn't matter. I don't want that perception. That's a huge concern for me. Dr. Wanza, what can you do to make me feel better? >> I'll take the question. Um, >> for the public and for the board, u, we
don't stifle public comment. We don't stifle feedback in this process. Um, we've always been committed and will continue to be committed to make sure this is an empowering exercise for our community, for our staff, for our
students, for our parents to help facilitate the hard decisions that the district needs to do when it comes to deciding what schools that are going to be closed to traditional purposes for students and repurpose for whatever um the the board finalized and deems fit.
that's going to be a benefit to this county and this community at large. So, um, in a nutshell, you have our commitment. >> Dr. W, do you need to add anything on behalf of your team? >> I'm sorry. Can you say that again? >> Did you want to add anything on behalf of you and your team?
>> Dr. Heburn has spoken. I'm ready. >> Okay. >> Thank you. before we go to Oh, Miss Rupert. >> Uh, yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, awkward time to go right after all that exchange. Um, but I I did have a
few questions about um what we're doing for the schools, all of our schools, which would be um do we have a a group of individuals that are sending postcards to new families as they're moving in? Is that more of a principal
um situation where they would actually have the information for that and they utilize it? I I can tell you in the area that I live in, South Creek, South Cook Creek, um families upon families upon families with multiple children are
moving in. I mean, if I if I could just um give it give a points on my street alone, we have I think only three houses on both sides of the street that don't have any children. Everybody else has children and um I'm hoping I do see that
benefit in Coconut Creek um Kate 8 Academy of Excellence. Um so there's that that first part. Um the second one, the opportunities that we have that the other schools don't have that are charters or private. Um I know many of
our schools now are going to be utilizing the space Florida uh curriculum and I mentioned um Blaine last time and I think a lot of board members have one at least one and some have two for their districts. It would
be amazing to take advantage of their publicity about all the launches that do go off to give the student real time engagement. I think we should have that ready at the get-go. And I know that press releases from Space Florida are
very easy to get. And um I think it's something that the media would find interesting, the community would find interesting, and um hopefully the families want to take advantage of a burgeoning career in in Florida. Um
let me see the questions that you wanted us to have answered. I was yes on North Folk, yes on Seagull, um yes for renting for uh the super this can't talk sorry Casey Wright building
and um I have one one question but I think it's I think we're going to be covering it later but um when we're talking about reimagining and I know that there's an item coming
at at some point to pay a designer um a million dollars for a prototype. And my question to that by not actually referring to the to the item itself is that I know for um several of my schools, Margate Middle being one of them, we had swing space um uh our
Markham um they we had swing space for them. Granted, it was not the best possibility and I look forward to having a conversation with my colleagues about how um the future is to be talked about for the best of all our our community
members there. Um but I think it's important to really watch every single dollar and if we could utilize the other one uh that we've you've had before those designs and see how that would work. Um, and I'll talk about that on
it's either this week or last week that it's on. And um, as for uh, renting, Casey, I said yes for that. Um, I personally don't think that, um, God is going to be making any more land
purchasing or land uh, um, made. So, I I believe we should hold on to as as much real estate that can be sold at a huge profit. Do I understand uh, Mr. Shivera's point of view. Absolutely. Um I do. I get it. Um but I think a little
baby step at this point that that's my perspective is to get the leasing and our staff situated and um down the road I I would be open to possibly selling it, but that's not at not at this time for me. Um
and I think that that's it for for this. Um, I did want to get offline and hear um about exactly what is working in the schools that we've had, what best um, you know, best
practices have gone well and what hasn't that we're going to be doing this time around. I I think um that's a good way to to um to actually firm up what we do moving forward. um as long as we are able to um
kind of take forward the best practices and not um maybe some of the other ones that were splashed um out there to be the big items. But um I I believe that some have worked K to8 and I really am very excited about that and the new programs that we have um for our
schools. So um thank you Madam Chair. >> Thank you. Before we go to round two, I just have a few comments and then I I'll give my feedback on the requests from staff. Um, back I want to go back to slide 28 about
the taking a regional process approach. What is the what is your vision for that and what it looks like as it com you know comparing it to last year? >> So um thank thank you Miss Leonardi. So
last year we started like here, right? And we we went out um and we um we had um like different clusters of schools which then morphed into six or eight
meetings for for that around those individual clusters because we didn't say specifically, you know, hey, we're going to do this or we're contemplating this. We are still thinking, give us your input. So then we took those six or eight meetings and then we had now we
then then we went to some regional meetings and then we had um some one-off meetings that we needed to have kind of thing and then before you knew it we were we had morphed into 13 different meetings. If we are going to take a
different approach this year and actually say these are the nine schools, the 12 schools, these are the So then so then we would not and I'll be honest, I I am not thinking of having 12 different
meetings at each one of those schools. We would do a more regionalized approach where we would still set up a high school gymnasium that's more like a family room and invite those specific communities and surrounding communities, right, for conversations that are
specific to them. We would probably have to have a follow-up meeting depending on what we get out of those meetings and kind of tailor it more that way as opposed to just doing a large swath of 13 14 meetings but really be more
targeted and intentional in the meetings and the spaces and the times that we have and definitely um um outside of that and and this isn't even incorporated into the large number that I said is then also simultaneously
have meetings with the municipal, you know, the the municipalities that are impacted and some of the local businesses because those meetings we tend to have in the daytime. We may do something on teams, you know, have those kinds of conversations. Whereas the meetings when we talk about meeting with
the stakeholders, those have to be in a time and a place that is um convenient to them and allows for them to if they need to bring their kids, have a a different type of open approach. >> Okay. We did do like some version of a
of regional meetings though this last year. Yes, we we did after we had about eight or nine individual meetings because we you know so I'll say like that first meeting at at at Dillard, we had eight or nine schools that we had the or six
or eight schools that we had the conversation, we paired it down and then we had a regional meeting. So, I guess what I'm a little bit uncomfortable with is when we do do those regional meetings,
it felt like at some of those there were because there were competing interests in the room, um, a little bit it felt like we were kind of pitting schools against each other. And I know that that wasn't the intent, but that's kind of how some of that the the
community conversation went. So, I I still do think it's important to meet with each individual school. Um, and like I think, you know, Miss Thompson speaks to this a lot. Like some of us do
our own community meetings and roundt meetings. Like the school that was closed in my district, I sat down with the students. I sat down with the teachers um and the employees. So like some of that is incumbent on us. Um but I do feel uncomfortable moving away from
like us as a district meeting with each individual school. I think that's a very important part of the process and I I understand the impetus to like want to streamline it and make it because there there were advantages to having those regional conversations as well because
you hear from the different civic associations and you do get to like other schools do get to hear the perspective of other schools who you know who are being considered for closure. So, um I just feel a little bit uncomfortable with moving away from
meeting with with each individual school. So, that's just kind of where I am on >> Okay. >> on that. Um to our general counsel, I think I asked this at the last workshop on redefining
uh with regards to the cyrunk rising pro uh project. Um and I asked it whether or not that qualified as a P3. Have we done any other kind of due diligence around that? Um,
and and what they would have needed to do to fulfill all of our requirements. >> I'm not sure I understand the questions. What do you mean by like I'm not I don't understand the question. >> So I I'm if I'm recalling correctly, I asked if the CRUN rising project
qualified as a P3 project or could be considered a P3 project. Is that is that the case? >> So, if I understand correctly, cyst trunk, we're going to end up selling the land and they're going to utilize it um and build some affordable housing. Am I
correct in the correct project or no? so that we're selling a or I mean we were trying to gather consensus today whether to sell a portion of that land but that we're leasing a portion of that land for them to do a variety of different things which is to I mean there was a like a
community center some affordable housing a hotel um a training center so it depends on what's going to be the ultimate decision of the board because if you're going to lease and actually enter into a private partnership with them that's one option
that could be a P3. If it's going to be a sale, that's a whole different type of scenario. So, I I think it depends on which direction. Are we going to be leasing the project? Both. I mean, based on the consensus today, from what I'm seeing, um there we you know, we I think
there was consensus, you know, a month or two ago to at least a portion of the land. I think the request today is do are where are we on selling a portion of the land? So, it would be a combination of of both. So I just want to make sure we are in a legally sound place to move
forward with the entirety of the project given the question that I had asked the last workshop. >> Yeah, we can it can be viewed as a P3 project for sure since we'll be working as a p public private partner with them to accomplish these various aspects. >> Right. So then I guess my question is
still the same. um have we done our like a legal assessment of how this came to us and and moving forward with it as a P3 if it you know satisfies all of our policies and and all of the state statutes.
>> Okay. So that's a question that I think we want to uh respond to it in a follow-up. We don't necessarily have that policy approved. That policy is coming to the board on July 28th, but I will talk with staff and we will do a follow-up for you. Thank you. Um,
so as long as everything is legally sound, I am in favor of the sale of land for North or that that portion of land for North Fork. I am in favor of option three for Seagull. I do think it's important for me to put on the record.
I think we're in a bit of a precarious situation with Seagull with that piece of land because from what I'm hearing from people who are approaching us about wanting to use that land, it's their understanding that it's Seagull and Wood and Rogers like that whole property.
There is like a misconception out there about that. Um so and I would not support um you know moving the widen and see
community um to another property uh so that we could do something with that entire property. So, I'm a little bit worried about that situation because it seems that um you know the the the interested
stakeholders have this misconception that the seagull property is the entire property and I know that that's not what's in the presentation. Um so I just I hope that we are not in a in a weird place with that and I just want to be on the record right now. I will not support
moving the seagull family again. Um, moving forward, um, for the superintendent's recommendation for KCW, I do not think as the largest land owner
in the county that it is wise to sell our most valuable land. Um, I would be in favor of leasing the entire building. I'm not in favor of selling the building. I don't have an issue with moving all of us into a school. like I I
support that um ideologically uh and you know just in a in a logistical and pragmatic way as well. I think it's good when you know the people who are running the school district are in schools. Um but I don't support selling it. I would support a lease that
would you know generate recurring income um for this school district. Um, and I I think I've voiced my concerns around the the redefining process. All right. Uh, round two, I have Miss Thompson.
>> Thank you, chair. Um, just two two comments or two categories of comments. I agree with your statements about selling KCW. I think it was important for the superintendent to point out that if we sell the building, it goes directly into capital
and that is not where our deficit is at this time. It's in our general fund, which leasing funds, if I'm correct, can go towards that, can go towards paying teachers more, can go towards, you know, making sure all of our kids have access to art, music, and and the whole
plethora of things that we want to give them. Um, is there any cost associated to getting an appraisal, an updated appraisal? Go ahead, S. >> Yes. Um, since it's been less than a year since we've had these appraisals done, we can go to the same appraisers.
There's a fee, but that's usually we do an RFP since we work with them. We'll just usually it's probably I don't want to give a quote, but it should be less than 10,000 for all three of them. >> So, and this quote is how old? >> Less than a year. We That was February.
That's why those those comps were from February. >> So consistently, at least from this board member's opinion, there's never been strong consensus to sell the building. So to spend money when we're trying to be fiscally responsible does not make sense from this board member.
Um so I guess I would like to get consensus on that once the at the end of my talking points. So the chair is here as as well. Um, and then I just want to rehash our redefining process from last
year because I think there's been some some misinformation. Uh, but before I do that, I want to go through district by district and how many schools got closed in each district. So, district one, how many schools did we close? >> District one, >> I don't think we closed.
>> And not changing it, not restructuring it, actually closing for a school site. >> Just you saying actually closing a school? The answer is >> no, we didn't. We haven't closed any district. >> District two, how many schools were closed? >> Three. >> District three, how many schools were
closed? >> One. >> District four. >> Zero. >> District five. >> Eas plantation. Three. Yeah. >> District six. >> None. >> District seven. >> None.
Thank you for that reminder to the community and to my colleagues. Um, when we did the process before, we as a district district staff never had individual meetings at schools. We had clusterbased meetings starting in September. Um, where we chose a high
school and chose kind of the cluster or the innovation zone. I can't remember exactly how it was determined. Um I as a board member went out and met individually which each of my schools I had 13 different meetings with two virtual where everyone was invited. I
would encourage any and I know Miss Leonardi also had her um meeting at Seagull. I would encourage any colleague who says they deeply care about community input to have community meetings and town halls because that is your right as and responsibility as a
board member. Um, and so I think the pathway and I just from personal experience and experience from my community, this whole process is heartbreaking. To have multiple meetings of will they,
won't they, to have children come up to you crying because they don't know where they're going the next year is awful. to stretch it out is not only inconsiderate, it is not the right thing to do for the
people that come to our schools. So, I really appreciate this thoughtful, intentional community gathering process that Dr. Wanza and her team have created for the upcoming year.
I would not encourage any changes and I would encourage any board member who thinks it's not enough to do the work yourself. Thank you. >> Thank you. And I uh while I was out of the room, I think Miss Thompson requested a consensus around sale or
lease of KCW. Um so I guess um I heard >> due to the fact there's a fee associated with getting an updated appraisal. So, if there's not consensus, it doesn't make sense to me to spend the money that we don't have. >> Thank you. So, I'm hearing a no from
Miss Thompson, [laughter] >> Miss Bulman. >> I agree with that. >> I am a no. As I stated earlier, Dr. Zean, >> I'm sorry. I am a yes on a lease. Um, and the reason um the appraisal was important to the lease is that lease
payments are often a percent of the total value. And so it's very important to know the total value of the land. Uh that will um often times uh affect directly what uh somebody's willing to pay you in a lease. >> Got it. So you are in no on the sale of
KCW. >> Correct. U Miss Bullman, >> just to clarify, you want to do for Dr. Zean, you want a reappraisal? >> Oh, okay. >> Okay, great. That's all. >> Um Mr. Dr. Sea, I had you as a yes for
the sale of KCW. Is that accurate, Miss Rupert or Dr. Holes? >> Um, I'm a no. >> Madame Chair, I am a no. >> Do you have your direction? Uh, Dr. Fulton and Dr. Wza? >> Yes, we do.
>> Okay. So, we will not be moving forward with a new appraisal. >> All right. Um, does anyone else want to speak for round two? Mr. Sber, >> thank you. I just wanted to to make sure
I was clear on what we just received consensus on. And then I just want to make uh one final comment. [clears throat] the consensus was whether or not we wanted to pay for another comparable for
this build for the sale of this building because I think the data that um we were going off of was from like either January or May February. So, um I had asked that a a comp be done
just for the sale and uh it would appear that my colleagues are not in agreement with me. The only thing I wanted to see clarification on is ma'am you gave a you threw out a number and you said around
10,000 for and the tail end of your comment was for all three. I I just wanted to make sure because listen, I'm not a commercial realtor, nor do I aspire to be one. But 10,000 for a comp on this building just in my mind just seems a little high. So, I just wanted
to make sure that your estimate was accurate and you were only giving a number for a comp on this building. >> Yes, it be for a comp on this building only. I can't determine what the appraisers are going to charge us to
revalue the property. Um, I'm assuming it's going to be less than what we paid for the original, but it's not usually we go out for an RFP and we pick below as three. So, if we're just going to get a have them revalue it. >> Incidentally enough, what was the price
on the first comp? >> I don't have those numbers with me. >> Does anybody know? >> I could get the information for you. Absolutely. I >> we we can either we can provide a followup so that you have all three comps because it it it's three. It was
three that were done that was provided. We we can definitely provide a a follow-up to the board. Um but I don't have the number sitting right here in front of me. >> Respectfully, I [laughter] don't think a follow-up's going to do any good because I just want to make sure we're on the same page. Uh before we just voted to give consensus on a number that I
thought respectfully was a little high, but it is what it is. If you don't have the number, there's nothing I can do, I guess. um on the meeting com uh meeting aspect of this and involving the community. Uh I want to address a comment that was um that was made on this because again this
is extremely important and I want to make sure that um as far as the public is concerned my opinion on this is uh crystal clear. Uh, while I realize that not every district was physically
affected by these closing and repurposing that we did, um, at least from my standpoint, I can't speak for all of my colleagues, I feel that this really affected the entire county whether or not it happened in your district or not. And I feel as though
the process of being able to address this board and address the people who make the decisions was an important one. So this notion is that this next time around that individual board members should hold um meetings and and um
community conversations themselves. Um I don't think that quite gets you there. you know, I want to be a part of this process because I have to make the decision. And I'm not sure me by myself holding a community conversation, which by the way, incidentally, I do quite
frequently for those of you who attend my my community conversations and my town hall meetings. I do those with regular frequency. But I'm not sure that me just doing that as one board member, Adam Cera, right, and allowing people to come in and giving me their two cents, like they don't just want to talk to me.
They want to talk to everybody else on here. They want to talk to the super. They want to talk to the deputy super. Presumably, they want to talk to you and your team, Dr. Wanza. So, this notion that we can, you know, satisfy the public's appetite to engage with us by holding a a single board member
community town hall meeting, I don't think us gets us there. And I think that misses the mark rather tremendously if if I may say so. I feel as though we need to do this collectively as a team. We are making decisions as a team, okay,
as a collective unit, the nine of us, to determine whether or not we are going to close and repurpose schools. And quite frankly, I want to hear from everybody. I don't think it's fair that, you know, maybe Dr. Zean just does a town hall and I don't know what's going on Dr. Zemon's town halls. I don't. This
needs to be done as a cohesive unit so the public can address everybody, not individual board members. So, I would respectfully disagree with my colleagues uh assumption that we can satisfy the public's appetite to address this governing body by holding individual town hall meetings. I think that misses
the mark. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? Uh, Miss Rupert or Dr. Holus? >> Um, I have a followup. Um it's kind of a little tangent here, but um remember when we were at last school year and we
had some um some people, some organizations u wanting to come in and colllocate. Um I know this isn't a conversation about colllocating, but it is a conversation about who is going to be moving into our schools. So for a followup, I don't know
if we've received one lately. I I haven't gone through it. Um, it's important to know because at one point Liberty Elementary and Winston Park Elementary were in uh consideration for something and when I when I looked
recently, I didn't see that that they're going to have any collocation. So, I guess a followup please to see where that is for the entire district. Um, just an update. Is that possible? Dr. Heppern. >> Hi, Miss Ruber. This is Dr. Fulton. Yes,
we will follow up with that information. >> Uh, thank you, Dr. Felton. Nice to hear from you. >> You as well. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? >> I'm all done, >> Madam Chair. I have no more comments. >> All right. >> All right. Our uh that concludes that
workshop then. Oh, Dr. Wanza, do you have your direction? >> Abundantly clear. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Our next item is Office of Safe Schools quarterly report 2526 quarter 4 and 2526 annual compliance visit report. I'll recess the meeting
briefly for two minutes to allow staff uh to assemble. Thank you. Hey, hey, hey. >> [music] [music] >> Down. Green. Where do you see?
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quarter 4 and 2526 annual compliance visit report. I'll now turn it over to our deputy superintendent uh for a brief presentation. Thank you, uh, Chair Leonardi. Um, we have our office, we have our staff here, um, representing, um, our safety and security department
ready to give quarter 4 update. So we have Miss Morgan and Mr. LaRosa. Please take it away. Thank you. >> Good afternoon through the chair. I'm Jim Laosa, director of safety and security and um
we will defer to you all. We I know we usually go we can go slide by slide or we can give you guys the the the overall. >> Dr. Zemon, this was it's a repeat of what we've seen every quarter. So I think as >> correct. Yeah.
>> All right. Um my name is M. >> Are they going to bring them up? >> Begin if we bring the slides. Hi. Thank you. My name is Morgan Iikil, our compliance coordinator and safety and security. We'll go ahead actually and move to start on slide four. Oh,
thank you very much. Uh so this is actually our current uh fourth quarter report as well as comparison to last year. Uh we did have 24 schools inspected in this quarter which is a significant drop from a quarter three inspection numbers. Uh so that did
result in 14 schools with no deficiencies and uh 60 almost 64% compliance percentage. As you can see though, compared to quarter four of last year, it was a significant increase.
So in looking at the breakdown between district and charter schools, we had 19 districts uh district operated schools inspected with approximately still that same percentage about 63 to 64% of that compliance percentage. and only five
charter schools uh received inspections in quarter 4 with 2% receiving no deficiencies at all. So that did result in that 40% uh compliance percentage. However, there at the bottom you can see those uh pass rate percentages on the
individual items that are inspected. So we're still maintaining that 96% on the district side and 95% here um in the last quarter for those number of items. So, it's a minimal number of items at each school. It's typically only one item.
So, to look at those overall numbers for the school year, pulling all of those inspections together, a total of 81 district operated schools were inspected during the school year by the Office of Safe Schools, 63 of those uh did present with no compliance deficiencies
identified, giving an overall percentage of almost 78%. uh only 24 of our charter schools received inspections with half of them uh receiving no compliance deficiencies. And again, you can see there as well with cumulative numbers for the overall
uh pass rate of those 11 items inspected. At the end of the year, the district did have a 96% uh of cumulative score and the charter had a 95%. So, we're still maintaining uh from last year, up a little bit here for our public schools, our district
operated schools from the 95 and definitely up from our charter percentage rate of the 88% of the full last year. We did have one additional slide here to also reiterate some of those items that are high priority and high attention of where we're seeing
some of those deficiencies again with our um uh maybe ID cards and things like that. But some of the items that we're working forward on is meeting more with our school staff and school leadership. They're meeting with all of them in
these first weeks uh in our reviewing all of our compliance requirements and those site visits, getting them prepared for future site visits during the year. They're also uh doing some additional safer space checks as well because I know that's something we incorporated last year. We're incorporating that into
some drill uh log language. So, we're checking that very frequently during the school year. >> You Dr. Zean >> one uh would you please characterize what an OSS uh site visit looks like whether it's announced in advance does
anyone know what's coming >> uh it is not announced in advance to the school they are done um without any prior knowledge we will sometimes see that they might be in a certain area they don't necessarily travel all over the district in any one given day uh but
they do pick their own schools based upon data that they've reviewed and where has had visits and where it's not and they just show up and let us know they're there and they proceed through with reviewing the campus, taking a walk through, looking for apologies, looking for things that should be either posted
on the campus or checking door locks, and then going through some questions and documentation. >> I appreciate that. I just um think it's really really important to recognize the rigor of this test. Uh this is not um we're coming next week, get all your stuff organized so that you have everything uh ready to go so you look
good. This is a a blind test that they show up. They are not part of Broward County Schools. They're a statef funded organization. Um, and we still uh have extraordinarily high uh rates of passage and the things for which they find uh things that don't pass the test turn out
to be uh things that are easy to fix and and we're going to be training on them for next year. Uh this reflects really uh amazingly on Broward County Public Schools who often gets credited by national organizations as the safest most secure school district in the
United States. I think Broward County Schools has earned that distinction and I'm glad that we get to maintain that distinction with results like this. This is truly remarkable and I hope I know you want to train more and train a little differently next year and I love the fact that you're awesome and you want to remain awesome or maybe even get
a little more awesome. Uh but um these results are truly truly remarkable and uh great credit to Jim, you and to your team uh for making sure and all the principles and all the teachers out there that make this thing happen. But thank you for also trying to trying to push even harder in the face of of
really really great success. So we appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Dr. Anyone else? >> Anyone online? >> No thanks. All right. And Mr. Hill, we do not have
public comment, correct on this item. All right. Um, seeing no other >> Thank you. >> comments. Thank you so much for your presentation and your work. The last item is enterprise resource planning ERP transformation project. Um, Dr. Fulton,
are we able to get staff to the table or do we need to recess the meeting? >> Uh, Dr. Lozano's got it. So, we will go to that. I think they're out in the pre-conference >> momentarily. >> Oh, okay. We'll recess the meeting for five minutes. Thank you.
Hey, N. Heat. Heat. >> [music] >> Hey, hey, hey. I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[music and cheering] All right, we are back. The last item is enterprise resource planning ERP transformation project. I now turn it over to staff for a brief presentation. >> Thank you, chair. I'm going to turn it over um to the team. I know we have a brief video that we're going to show
first and then we'll and then we'll uh move to uh discussion and any uh questions that the board may have. >> Thank you, Dr. He Pete Ashen burner assistant director enterprise project management office um program manager ERP transformation project before we start
the video I just want to make it uh make sure everyone's clear uh that we are in cone of silence for this um and so that means that uh communications with uh vendors involved um is strictly limited to our procurement team. With that we
can start the video. Chair, before we go to the video, uh, can we make sure that we get clarification from our general counsel about the cone of silence? >> If I may to the chair. Yeah. Yes. Dr. Zean. So, the cone of silence applies to the uh the vendors, the proposals
proposers themselves, and they're prohibited from communicating directly with anybody other than the designated purchasing agent. >> Thank you, Mr. Cooney. Chair, can I get >> sorry, further clarification on that point, but if we're discussing it, like
isn't that giving them feedback to change their process? Like where is it at at this process and is this legally the right thing to do right now? So um just to clarify what we are sharing today is very high level about
the project generally and does not include any information about the um specific uh request for proposal process that would potentially violate code of silence >> with that information. Are you good with that? As long as we don't discuss the
actual proposals themselves. I mean, as long as legal counsel supports this conversation, I'm going to defer to your legal expertise. >> Yes, ma'am. It's okay to discuss these conceptually as long as you're not reviewing the actual proposals themselves. >> Anyone else?
All right, go ahead. >> Thank you. Um, Beacon, could you please start the video? >> Board workshop. This presentation provided by Matthew Bradford, chief information officer, task assigned and ERP project executive sponsor along with
the ERP project team and plantaran technology consulting will provide a comprehensive overview of the district's ERP transformation project. The ERP transformation project is a strategic modernization initiative aiming to enhance the district's enterprise systems, operational
efficiency, data integration, and long-term sustainability. The information provided today covers the project progress, procurement activities, governance, milestones, and next steps. This initiative supports goal 4, college and career readiness, and acceleration, [music] and aligns
with guardrails 1, 2, and four, strengthening safety, advancing equity, and enhancing accountability. The team is excited to provide this information as we advance toward vendor selection, and implementation planning. The ERP transformation project focuses
on modernizing enterprise systems to improve efficiency, data integration, and sustainability. Our current SAP ECC system will reach end of life by December 2027, requiring the modernization of business systems that support finance, human resources,
payroll, procurement, budget, and related functions. Procurement activities, including RFP release, evaluations, and vendor demonstrations have been completed. Next steps include vendor selection and implementation planning with expected outcomes of improved efficiency, reporting,
integration, compliance, and user experience. The ERP transformation project is a business transformation effort designed to improve operational effectiveness, reduce risk, strengthen compliance, modernize business processes, improve reporting and
analytics capabilities, and establish a sustainable foundation for future district operations. This district-wide modernization initiative is needed to replace the district's aging SAP ERP system before vendor support ends on December 31st, 2027.
An enterprise resource planning system is a single technology platform that connects the district's core business operations, improving efficiency, data accuracy, and decision-making. The district's 11 core functions, including finance, budget, human resources, payroll, benefits administration, talent
acquisition, procurement, accounts payable, grants management, warehouse and inventory, timekeeping and reporting and analytics. Operate across aging and disconnected systems. A modern ERP integrates these into a single platform,
enhancing efficiency and compliance. One system supports thousands of employees and critical business processes across the district. ERP is key for employee hiring and onboarding, payroll processing, benefits administration, budget development, purchasing and vendor payments, grant
administration, inventory management, financial reporting, and regulatory compliance. All schools, departments, and employees are impacted by the ERP system. Currently, risk mitigation and operational resilience are priorities
supporting schools and students indirectly through more efficient back office operations. Modernizing ERP is essential to address these risks and ensure sustainable operations. ERP modernization efforts are underway
statewide. The Florida Department of Education established the ERP system migration task force to assess and support ERP modernization efforts across Florida colleges and universities. School districts throughout Florida and nationally are evaluating or implementing ERP modernization
initiatives to address aging technology, vendor end of life deadlines, operational efficiencies, cyber security considerations, and evolving reporting requirements. The project has completed several milestones. Business process reviews,
requirements gathering, [music] RFP release on May 1st, 2026, vendor questions and agenda, proposal receipt on June 11th, 2026, establishment of an evaluation committee and demonstration presentations. The evaluation progress includes
reviewing proposals and assessing vendors to ensure the district selects the best solution for its enterprise business needs. Key milestones include the RFP release in May 2026, procurement and vendor evaluation activities in summer 2026,
anticipated vendor selection in August 2026, contract process and board approval in fall 2026, and implementation beginning in winter 2026 or spring 2027. Implementation phases include planning and design, testing and
training, go live and stabilization, and postimplementation optimization. Capital funding is primarily tied to implementation activities, making this a multi-year initiative. Funding for ERP modernization comes from capital funds for implementation and
ongoing software maintenance with general fund support for pre-implementation activities. Final costs will be determined after vendor selection. Resource planning covers services, technology, training, change management, and organizational readiness. Governance is managed by an
executive steering committee, ERP project team, cross functional stakeholders, procurement, legal, finance, information systems, and plantaran advisory support. A traditional financial return on investment for ERP cannot yet be
quantified as final costs, scope, and implementation approach will be determined after vendor selection. The district's anticipated return is best reflected through operational, strategic, and organizational benefits expected from ERP modernization.
ERP modernization is expected to deliver significant benefits to the district, spanning improved operational efficiency, data accuracy, compliance, and user experience across all business functions. Industry benchmarks show that ERP
implementations can reduce operational costs by up to 23%, enable 20% higher process efficiency, and support 30% faster decision-making. Modernized ERP eliminates data silos for 77% of organizations, improves user
productivity by 30%, reduces data entry by 50 to 90%, enhances regulatory compliance by up to 35%, and lowers infrastructure costs by up to 70%. Next steps include final evaluation activities, vendor recommendation,
contract negotiations, board approval, and implementation planning. The ERP transformation team will mobilize for January 2027 implementation readiness activities. For ongoing project updates, milestones, timelines, and resources, please refer
to the enterprise resource planning information hub or iHub by visiting browardschools.com/perpihub. Projected implementation costs for the new ERP system are detailed by fiscal year, covering categories such as implementation, licensing and maintenance, legacy system maintenance,
staff salaries, backfill staffing, and independent verification and validation. Funding sources include the general fund and capital fund. Appendix A provides reference material from the June 23rd, 2026 capital budget DEFP workshop. The
team is committed to this project and is excited to modernize and transform the district's current aging ERP system. Thank you for your time and attention today. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. We are ready um for any questions uh or discussion.
>> Dr. Zean, >> chair. Thank you. Um, and Dr. Hepern, thanks for bringing this in. Thanks to the ERP team. Um, I've been through a couple dozen ERP transformations. They're all very hard. They all take longer than you think. They realize less savings than you thought they would, uh,
earlier on. And they were all worthwhile. And so, um, you know, you can read a lot about ERP and you can read a lot about the challenges and difficulties. What I love about the way you're approaching this, Dr. Heburn is that you've put together the right size team with the right talent to kind of lead us through
this and avoid uh those pitfalls. So I'm incredibly bullish on this. I know this is going to cost us money upfront. Um the one big question I have Dr. Heburn is how do you intend to capture the savings from this? The in the end you not only can answer questions that you
couldn't answer before, you can answer all of the questions you could ask and the ones you couldn't ask faster. Um, and you have the ability to really be more responsive to the community in all the things that you do. >> But this is sold as a cost-saving thing
long term, uh, not just a performance improvement. How are you going to track the cost savings and make sure that we reduce our long-term general fund requirements um, as we move through this ERP? >> Yeah, absolutely. That's a great question because right now there's a lot of gaps um in our ability to analyze
certain data sets because they're just not available with this current um ERP system. Um and um moving forward we'll be able to to catalog specific data uh um hours on task um over time. Um
there's so and and I know Ro can add a lot more too because one of the one one of the issues um for her to be as effective as she can be is because of the current uh ERP system that that we do have. And um I don't know if you want to add anything um um Peter and the team
uh as far as capturing certain types of cost savings because this this this uh system impacts the entire organization. So there's many facets of of how we can leverage that data appropriately just to gain better efficiencies better uh uh
analyze better data so we can react in real time um and not worry about stagnant um data that we're reviewing six months to a year later because of the colle collection methods that we have right now. >> Thank you Dr. Hein. I'll ask plant
Miranda to weigh in first. >> Thanks Pete. Chris Carr with Plantaran. Um, it's a complex question. There's a lot of ways to um to answer that. Many factors that that go into that question, but I'll say Dr. Heeper mentioned that
the future ERP, whatever it may be, um, it'll be a repository for a great great volume of data. And one of the intents or visions for the new ERP system, whichever one it may be, is that it it
allows various users across the entire district, leadership, board, um, staff, school secretaries, etc. It gives them metrics and insight into how they're performing, how they're conducting their business. metrics like
like cycle time um procure to pay hire to application to retire that kind of thing. So the presentation talked about process efficiency and time savings. The ERP system ideally will capture metrics
and data to support and quantify all of those savings. And then additionally um another vision for the new ERP is that it'll reduce risk. And um this was briefly mentioned in the presentation but your current system SAP
ECC and and its version is approaching end of life and that end of life date which is December 31st 2027 will introduce significant risk for any organization who continues on that system beyond that date.
And so I I think another uh cost-savings value is the avoidance of that risk. >> Can I just offer a follow on if you don't mind, Dr. Heepburn? You know, ERP often has all of those benefits. Um but
one of the problems with accounting systems is they can tell you uh the cost of everything and the value of nothing, right? So Miss Johnson can watch all the money go through, but if it goes out to transportation or to, you know, supply
chain work or procurement and somebody buys a contract with it, the accounting system isn't necessarily built to tell you what value we got for the money. They can tell you how much it cost, but when you say, "Yeah, but what did you get with that really cool contractor and that contract and and that we needed so
badly that we ran out and got it and things like it." I love ERP systems because they answer those kinds of questions and they allow you to start to ask really really great questions like how do you put together scarce resources that you have in a way to optimize the education system that you have either in
an academic sense or in a a whole person sense that doesn't matter but you just can't do that when you have fragmented databases you can only do that when you put it all together and start making sense so I'm curious to our chief financial officer if you don't mind Dr. He um will this help you kind
of get over that cost of everything value of nothing kind of paradox that accountants finally faced? >> Yes, my people could be more analytical. They can be looking at data instead of manip manipulating the data outside the system. The system will give us raw data
that we can actually make decisions on. It will our blueprint will be reduced because we don't need a lot of people to do the same things that we've been having thousands of people to do. It'll carve some of our savings when we the district is going down through
attrition. It will it's a education tool too because as you were saying we're manipulating data in different database system. They're not talking to each other. We'll have a system that everything is like a data warehouse, a data lake and that we we be pulling the
same data. So if different you get data from this department or this department, it will be the same data. So there's a lot of benefits of a RP system that we we can't measure, right? And it's going to reduce our landscape across the system, but it's going to improve
efficiency too at the same time because manipulating data outside of the database is cause our number one errors, right? And you talked about all these findings we get eliminate some of those findings because people be more analytical. They'll be looking at the data. They'll be reviewing the data.
It'll bring streamline processes and procedures and internal control is within the system. So those reports will be already reconciled while we just look at them and make sure they're good to go. >> And last question I have, will this system be pushed all the way down to the school level?
>> Yes. >> And give me an example of kind of how a school might use this system in a way that they can't use the current um financial systems that we have. >> Reporting. We the only ones running reports. They will be able to see their report in real time. So they be able to
look at people with their hiring will improve payroll. So with the everybody will be signing off when they payroll. It will be going through a chain just like um requisition. So the approval will be inside the system. We don't have to print stuff and put it in Adobe. That's the improvement we're looking
for. So we can manipulate the paper. We don't have need the paper processes anymore. So that is a 100% improvement. And then we have a record of signatures that are looking for a piece of paper say who signed off on this.
>> Thank you very much. Thanks, chair. >> Thank you, Miss Rupert. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I had a question about the last page on the um I guess it's page 18 on on the PowerPoint.
um who who actually comprised of the evaluation committee and that could be you can send me that later. Um but I also want to understand um and need a little elaboration on third-party asurances. Uh what does that look like
for a $2,145,000 fee over the first three years 27 through 29? So, um, kind of give me a a mini education as well as you could do it in a short amount of time. >> Go ahead, Mr. Asher.
>> Glar. >> Um, so the first question about the evaluation committee, um, I think the project team would be happy to provide that later. Um, I'll say that evaluation committee is diverse and crossf functional, representative of various
areas of the school district, finance, HR, payroll, technology, even school staff. And then the second question about third party assurance. uh third party assurance. We could talk at length about this but
um essentially outsourced consulting and experts to advise on the implementation and best practices for both the vi for both the district and the selected vendor. Um, another part of that third
party assurance is IVNV or independent verification evaluation, which um, this is a simplified definition, but essentially holding the vendor accountable to their performance measures and their contractual promises.
um being an advocate for the school district to to ensure that the significant contract that the district has been in that the significant contract the district has entered into is being followed to the letter uh by
your selected ERP implement Marv I'll add one Marvin Sawyer plantaran one other thing for independent verification val validation is actually advising the district on
risks and issues before they become big ris risk and issues. And that comes from a firm then that obviously has experience with implementing uh large systems and large districts.
comes from uh having people on the team with subject matter expertise and being able to provide additional expertise that the district might not have in house and as Chris said really being that watchdog. Not
only it is a watchdog for ensuring that the district is performing and participating at the level that they are required to but also that implementer the vendor who's implementing the software is performing at the level they
should be as well. >> Thank you. I I I appreciate the uh condensed version. Um but I have a a follow-up question. Does the does the vendor also pay a portion of the um the
fee for the third party asurances or is it just on the district? >> Peter Brener um that is just on the district to my knowledge. I just I just want to add to that, Miss Rupert. We have to be very careful because failure comes in the
implementation of a ERP system and [snorts] if we didn't process map plantaran has sure that we process math the system so we don't build a system that we used to the same old system to um and is it got integrity in the system
cuz I didn't seen some implementation where we have put stuff and you didn't parallel the system to make sure that information is accurate or we do too many customization That is a problem if we have to customize the system till it's no longer the system we actually built because
then the vendors start charging us more money cuz we customize something cuz we don't know. We want to do what we usually do and it's a way to do it to get the information without customizing it or browardizing it. I want to make
sure we understand that because we used to operate in one capacities. Plant moran will get us out of that you operate this way all the time and say you'll get the same information because it's about the reporting what is coming out the system then instead what we put
in or what we think we need because you could do something over and over doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. So they're going to ensure that the way we think about it is not the way it should be and they'll put keep us on track and then avoid of trouble because sometimes
you could put um if you don't paralyze the system is going parallel. You could put information in and then we got to clean up, right? It takes more time to clean up mess that we didn't added to the system without being doing our proper documentation. When this should
be going live, when we should we um do our blackout period? Nobody touched the system. All that is important and it's indicate that we might not have the knowledge behind it, but they do. That's the professionalism. We're appearing we're paying for that guarantee.
And and yes, we do [laughter] because I've certainly experienced uh um you know, kind of build the build the airplane where we're flying it um aka the uh the bond. So, um, implementation plans are an extremely important to have
that set up. So, um, I do appreciate that. Um, thank you, Madam Chair. >> Thank you. Anyone else? >> Miss Bowman. Um, okay. So just a
the timeline that we're looking at, we when do you expect that we'll get to the vendor recommendation, the um contract negotiations when it when it will finally come to us?
Um so Peter burner um we expect that next month a vendor will be selected and as far as when it will come to you all um fall 2026 um possibly winter 2026 uh want to make
sure that there's sufficient time uh particularly for the office of general counsel to um fully vet uh the contract make sure that um it as their stamp of approval before coming to the board. >> Intense contract. I >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. And so to that end, um when
we're looking at the IVNV that we were just talking about, we would wait to select that, would we select um a provider that specializes in whatever vendor product
we ultimately contract to purchase. So, um that's a that's a good question. Uh I think that we currently feel that um plant Moran has the expertise to be able to address
and to to to to meet the standard necessary for any of the potential options selected. But um I will defer to senior leadership if um there would be any changes to that.
>> Okay. Does anybody have any comment about that? >> Okay. I just want to make sure I mean you know it's kind of like you have to we need the best people making sure that we're getting um that they are doing that the vendor is doing what they're supposed to do. So just as long as we're
aligned on that then I think we'll be good to go. Um, thank you very much. >> Thank you. Any anyone else before we go to round two? >> All right, round two. Dr. Zean. >> So, the only um criticism that I think the public might have about this um
particularly people that haven't been through this or kind of recognize the business imperative for doing this is $75 million is a lot of money over three years. So, two questions about that. one, is there a chance that that estimate given that we have not picked a
vendor yet for our new ERP system that the cost in fact may be lower? >> Yes. >> So, that's a that's an upper end estimate. So, we can hold you, Peter, accountable for that $75 million. And uh maybe the superintendent will give you a
1% bonus for whatever you can come in below that. Uh let's see. You know, if we believe in incentives, we got to put this thing out there, right? But you think 75 is enough and and uh it's not going to go more very likely to be less. >> Yes, it is a conservative upper end estimate. >> Terrific. And what share of this I
didn't see this in the brief and I apologize if I didn't catch it, but what share of the 75 million of the first three years comes out of capital and not the general fund? >> Um it is I would say
I mean it's supposed to be 100% capital. Uh but in full disclosure, you see in that chart um we added an item uh to represent back filling uh which is expected could cost up to um in the low
to mid6 figure range per year. And for the public, that just means when you bring in, you have a dedicated team of district staff um who are moved to do the implementation and in order for business continuity to happen um where
they came from, you bring in temporary staff to do that work. >> Terrific. And just so the public's aware, uh the enhanced package we have on the SAP ECC module will extend to 2030 for planned maintenance. Is that correct? I will defer to the Miss Collins.
>> Charlene Collins, director application services. The SAP um life expectancy for what we currently have ECC is 2027 for support. They have
they will extend support at whatever cost they choose through 2030. Yes. >> Okay. Terrific. And I and the reason that's important is we don't want to lose the SAP system. I mean, it's not the one we want permanently, but it's better than not having it. And so, uh,
that's very important. I think the answer, by the way, on capital, uh, general fund is it's almost 100%. It may be 98 or 99, but it's a very small amount coming out of the general fund. It's also possible that if the procurement's delayed or if there's delays in this implementation, we've got
till 2030 with the current SAP program, right? But that also might level out some of the there's a big hump of funding in FY28 in this right so because we're paying old ERP new ERP and implementation team and overtime team and the whole thing right so there's
this big surge that's difficult in a budgeting world to come up with that surge you know that spike in the middle of the year if in fact things slow down and that becomes more level loaded uh I think that provides us an asset in the near term u and you know capital is not as important maybe in some sense is a
general fund, but there's always great things the superintendent wants to spend capital uh money on. So, if that happens, we're still going to meet the 2030 deadline, but we may um spread that requirement out a little bit to the right uh which would be great in FY28.
So, I appreciate uh what you guys are doing and thank you for uh moving forward with this courageous plan. I'm sorry. >> Um that's why we got Plant Moran to keep us a schedule, right? because most implementations we put aggressive schedules and we're trying to be more
conservative with that schedule too and also if we can reduce that schedule over time. So that's why we process math upfront >> those some of those things so we can be on point and we'll reduce cost by doing that >> on point. Was that a pun? [laughter]
Okay. I sorry we we brought point Moran in to stay on point. So thank you very much for for that one. Um, I just will ask for one more thing though from the superintendent if you can keep us updated. This is a big amount of money. >> That's huge. >> And if you don't mind, uh, if we could maybe quarterly, um, just see if there's
any deviation from the $75 million requirement. If that does level load a little bit, >> you know, we get a five or$10 million asset in FY28. There's a lot of great things we can spend capital money on. It's not like >> it's not like we have so much capital that our schools look like, you know, brand new schools. They don't. Uh we
could always um uh think about some great requirements for that, but if you could just keep us informed every quarter because this is just a big outlay >> uh for us um you know from from the funds that we have. >> Yep, absolutely. We um put it in a cadence of a of a quarterly briefing for the board. >> I really appreciate it and thanks for
bringing this Dr. Miranda, Dr. Epern, and thanks for putting this kind of team together. This is going to be exciting to watch it come together. >> Thank you. Anyone else? All right. Thank you, team. Y'all better run.
>> All right. So, at the direction of the superintendent, the following agenda topics are tenatively scheduled to be addressed during the upcoming workshops. August 11th for direct report evaluations. Committee reports. Rule development policy review for NEOLA.
August 25th, redefining our schools 2627 workshop number three and multi-year staffing alignment plan. Please note that the order of topics in the schedule remain tenative and are subject to adjustment at the superintendent's discretion. At this time, do any of my colleagues have anything to bring to
future workshops to share? Mr. Seivera, >> I have a question. And I don't know if this is the appropriate time, chair, to bring this up, but uh I'll ask and you tell me. Um I have a uh a proposal on a scheduling
issue for the August 19th regular school board meeting that um is currently scheduled. Um, I'd like to make a suggestion that we move that and if I need to prepare an
agenda item to have that heard at the next regular schoolboard meeting to move that date, I'm happy to do it. Or if it would be permissible for me to discuss with my colleagues and get consensus as to whether or not um we can move that August 19th date. And before I I give
the rationale, which I think is a viable one, um I just wanted to throw that out there to see if this would be the appropriate time to discuss. >> Um I also want to consult with staff to see if there's anything Mr. Hill, Dr. Heburn, and Mr. Cooney. Um is there
>> a regular school board meeting >> through the chair? This um has to be a B item as we report to the state the um school regular school board meeting dates and to change it has to be an official action of the board. So they can't just provide um consensus within the workshop. So we do ask right now
there actually is a B item in the system that will be delivered for next week. >> Yeah, it's mine. >> Yes, >> I'm aware. I just wanted to know if we can discuss it today or if it formally has to be voted on. >> Well, it it to pass. It has to formally be voted on within that B item. >> Okay, understood. So I guess we'll deal
with this next week then. >> Miss Thompson. >> Thank you, chair. Um I just closed out. So, I would like to give a shout out to the Myiar High School speech and debate team, uh, which for the first time since
2020 made an appearance at the national speech and debate tournament. And they are proud to announce that Nathaniel Oan placed second in the entire nation in original spoken word poetry. He recently graduated and served as the president of
the club for three years. And so this was his last tournament and he went out with with a fantastic ending. And then I'm just gonna have staff pass out. I had already invited people earlier. Um but to the beautifification blitzes I'm having throughout district 2. Like I
said, the first week will be outdoor projects, which I know in Florida heat isn't the most fun. Um, but we'll be focusing on, you know, beautifying different areas, kind of making sure, especially the some VPK areas are are bright and shiny for the families to
come in. And then the second week, we're focusing on helping teachers move in and get settled into their new spaces. And as I mentioned earlier, every school that's a part of this um, blitz was impacted by redefining. So, I would appreciate support if you all are
available and staff as well. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone online? >> Okay. >> Um I just had one quick I well maybe not
quick but a a concern that I wanted to bring. Um, we did hear from a teacher um recently about copy limits and cursive instruction and um staff did provide a
response about uh discretion for copies being at the school level. Um I can just speak to my experience as a teacher. Uh the the issue of copies is quite aggravating. Um, and I just I don't want
it to be a situation where we're imposing something on teachers and then not giving them the tools and resources to be able to carry out the task that we've asked them to do, which is cursive instruction. Um, so Dr. Hepern, I'm
wondering if you can provide um some context for that and what what your position is on that. >> Yeah, and I'll ask um Dr. Fulton to add on [clears throat] this and and it is um the schools the school leadership has unlimited um copy access and so that's
on purpose so they can work with teachers and kind of monitor um the situations that's specific to their school specific to instruction and uh assist with the necessary resources um to support those teachers. But I do know for cursive writing, many of the principles um and their staff have been
working together on how to carry that out. And you know, some are using unique um or not unique, but um opportunities they've already been using such as uh whiteboards for each individual student they can erase. They don't need to, you know, continue to write on paper unless they need to do some culminating activity and things like that. So many
school-based person uh leaders have already kind of um created um strategies to address how they're going to accomplish just like any other uh requirement that they may have from the state. And um Dr. Fulton, if you got anything else to add as well and and I
know she's going to talk about too with our next our ELA adoption for next year, we're actually um vetting um opportunities to add workbooks and things like that for cursive writing as well. >> Okay. So, thank you, Dr. Heepburn. And actually, you are correct. And I um used
that opportunity to talk to several principles just to see what barriers that they thought they may have so that we could be able to get in front of that before the teachers returned. And many of them are using uh just like Dr. Heburn saying, some unique ways. Some of them are just providing it to the
teachers up front where they don't have to individually be responsible for doing those copies. But rest assured, um we did let the principles know if there's a barrier, let us know. But one of the immediate things that they can do is increase the copy limit at their site.
And so that way they're able to make sure the the teachers have the resources that they need. But in talking to about four to five principles in elementary school, they did not foresee any any limitations to ensuring the teachers had access to the materials that they needed.
>> Okay. Um, so if I am a teacher who works at a school where the principal has not increased my copy limit and I'm being asked to um, deliver this curse of instruction and I haven't been given whiteboards and I haven't been given
workbooks, what recourse do I have? So I will tell you with with assurance and I have not spoken to all 100%. I I truly believe all principles will ensure that teachers have the materials that they need to be successful because the success of the teachers are the success
of our students and uh one and uh in talking to one of them actually the literacy coaches just to remove the work that the teachers have to do to make the copies. They're being done for them. Some of them use um the whiteboards like Dr. Heer mentioned. So it's it's it would be very difficult to do it one way
for all 127 schools, but we wanted them to use the the how on how the teachers wanted to do that, but making sure that whatever limitations, if it's copy limits, that they had recourse to be able to address that at the school level.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um Dr. Zean, >> I chair and um this slipped my attention. I wrote a note and hit it. Um uh there's a direct report u eval scheduled for the 11th of August. Um I think the first day of school is August
10th. Um I the the whole system is just so engaged on the five days of uh preparation and the first day. Um and the school board is is very focused on that. Again, I wonder if the board if there's no objection from our HR experts
on this. Um I'm sorry, Dr. Lozano is if we did the direct report evals on the 25th instead of the 11th, does that miss a deadline for any one of our direct reports? [snorts] >> Not at all. We can work within that window. >> It's just a suggestion to my colleagues. Uh the 11th is just I want to focus on
the first day. I want to be ready. I want to, you know, do all the support things that I can go out to the terminal, all that wonderful stuff. Um it's a very big surge of time and I also want to spend a significant amount of time writing good evaluation comments. If I could ask my colleagues to defer to
to that preference, I would just like to shift it back to the 25th. Uh if that would work with my colleagues. >> Um before I think Mr. Hill has some >> I just wanted to clarify with Dr. Lozano. I don't think this is actual writing the evaluation. I think this is maybe on the tool that you'll you
utilize. So it's not the actual completion of an evaluation. It's just so you can prepare the tools for our general counsel as well as our auditor. >> I'm sorry. So on the 11th, we're just talking about the tool. don't have to have our evaluation turned in by the 11th and discuss it. >> That is correct.
>> So February is is when you actually complete the um evaluations. This is just on the tool itself. >> Terrific. I appreciate that. I I withdraw my request. >> Okay. Anyone else? Miss Bulman. And please um forgive my ignorance about
this, but just to the to the paper issue um as a policy throughout the district, can we make sure that everyone has enough paper and access to the copies? I think I mean I've been hearing this for years and I'd love to see an analysis of how
much we're really saving in money versus grief of trying to provide um provide worksheets and things of that nature to the students. So I I just feel that that as a policy particularly in elementary
school people should have access to the copy paper. Um, and you know, also as we're kind of looking to go away from doing things on screens and having more paperbased educational materials,
I I just like to see our commitment to making sure that people can make the copies that they need to make to educate their students. Well, and into and to that point, Miss Bulman, I I hear that like I never want us to make decisions
in this room that that we think are helpful and then are like actually very unhelpful. And so I understand the impetus for like not wanting to make a to mandate it a certain way for every single school in the district. Um because, you know, school leaders and
and school-based uh personnel know what's best for their school. my ex in my experience, it was the the the variation between school to school was exactly the problem. So like at one high school I worked at um I had to make
my own copies. I was given some paper at the beginning of the year, I quickly ran out. I was an English teacher and actually when I worked in Miami date county public schools um at Homestead Senior, we called paper Homestead white gold because it was that [laughter]
valuable. Um, and and we spent that much of our own money on the paper. And then when I went to Nova High School, Nova High School, there was an employee who made copies for all of us. And it was a dream because it was, you know, I 25% of
my aggravation on a daily basis was removed. And so I just I want every teacher to have that aggravation removed. And to your to your point, Miss Bulman, like you know, there are some schools where teachers aren't having to buy paper. Like when I was at NOVA, I did not and it was amazing. But I would
venture that at many of our schools, teachers are having to buy paper and it is very expensive and very frustrating. So I agree with you, Miss Bullman. I I don't know how we tackle it. It seems like it's a problem that is both easy and difficult to tackle. But Dr. Heburn,
I don't know what your response is, Miss Bullman's request. So you know many other strategies are born actually out of the board in the past actually uh limiting um um the paper
budget right this that's that so the reaction for us is like how do we become more efficient how do we um help because most of the paper is being used at the at the school level so the um the limit per school maintains some consistency as
a floor and that's why we give the school leadership and all of that the opportunity to and also to ensure that schools are using because I I walk schools and I will see a printer in individual classrooms that somebody else
purchased besides us. And so now we're using district funds to pay for ink in those printers that are not ours or we have specific contracts for for for to uh refill ink to maintain and all of
that. And so we have large copers uh centrally located on campuses that are way more efficient, cheaper for us to use and can definitely be monitored much easier by school staff in the way up. Um, but it's providing the floor, giving school leaders the opportunity to work
with their teachers if they need additional uh resources. Uh, so we're not limiting resources, we're just helping people be more conscientious about the resources that they're using. >> Did we limit the resources? Because when we
>> Okay, so I was I was absent from >> your point. I'm not answering your question. >> Okay. Okay. But I >> we voted on something recently where I was not here >> multiple times. >> Um >> and that's limiting the resources at the school level.
>> So can you can you explain what that vote looks like? I mean, it it sounds nice to limit paper, but at the same time, if that's how we're delivering education or we want to deliver education as particularly in elementary schools >> that way, then how does our vote to
limit the amount of paper that we're purchasing affect that? Because it seems like we might need to revisit that decision. >> Well, I don't think it's a um trying to find a better a good term. I don't think it's a um decision that's wrong. I think
it's a decision that uh the board makes looking at how much money we're spending on paper and can we pull back some of that and come up with a better system of how we actually divvy out that resource. Um and as a result there was a consistent consistent floor with opportunities to raise that floor for
what teachers need um for resources to to do what they need to do in their classroom. Um, one thing I think we probably need to get better at of up this uh before the school year starts, just letting the principles know, hey, um, because I get I've only gotten a few emails from teachers about
paper. So, >> yeah, because there Yeah. So, I've only gotten a few emails and we have 15,000 teachers that probably got like five emails, right? So, that tells me the percent is like a hundth of a percent of people who are complaining about it. And maybe they their first stop wasn't to their principal. the first stop was to
email the superintendent or the board or regional. So, uh you know, just educating our our school leaders to let them let their teachers know, hey, first stop is me if you actually need to increase the resources that you need to use in your classroom to support instruction. Um so, but I think it's
helping people be more conscientious. We have all type of tools that do the same thing. And I'm not talking about a screen. You got whiteboards. You got opportunity for students to get up in a group and use a whiteboard so they can demonstrate learning for the whole entire classroom. So, it's not always about I need to make a hundred copies um
and do, you know, uh uh do the work that way. So, I think u it's just being more conscientious and we're monitoring that and um you know, if the complaints were through the roof, we will we will revert to a different strategy. But the small percentage of people that have contacted me personally, um it's just more about
letting the principles know to let their staff know. if you need additional uh paper resources or any resource on the campus, just come and talk to me first and we'll work it out to make sure you're not stifling opportunities for kids because that's what we're not trying to do. >> Okay. Well, as long as you get that message out.
>> Yep. Yep. I know Dr. Fulton and her crew work with the principles on that. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Anyone else? >> All right. Um the scheduled order business of this school board workshop of the school board of Broward County, Florida has been completed. Seeing no
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Heat. Heat. Down down down down. Good evening. This special school board meeting of the school board of Broward County, Florida to approve the advertisement for the budget and for the tenative district educational facilities
plan is now called to order. Our primary f focus is to create a safe and productive environment for all participants. Please be reminded of the exit doors that are clearly marked for emergency exiting. While in the board room, refrain from obstructing the exit doors. All attendees must occupy a seat with the exception of media. Once the
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cooperation. All please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> As we begin, we reaffirm our strategic plan goal. 100% proficiency for all students, guided by our vision, educating tomorrow's students to succeed. Today's students to succeed in tomorrow's world. And as an A-rated
district, we remain committed to sustaining this achievement while empowering every student to reach their highest potential. Our theme this year is believe, empower, achieve, one Broward. Today's special school board meeting will operate in accordance with schoolboard policy 1020 and the board
will review the items as advertised and presented by the superintendent. The superintendent released a revised agenda with certain changes for this meeting and published it on the school district's website. The chair finds pursuant to section 120.525 Florida statutes that good cause exists for such
changes and accepts the revised agenda. As a reminder to my colleagues to maintain quorum, uh we do all need to remain at the deis for the entirety of this meeting. May I have a motion and a second to close the agenda. Second >> moved by Dr. Zean, seconded by Miss
Thompson. All in favor of closing the agenda agenda, let it be known by saying I. >> Any opposers say no. The agenda is now closed. We will soon hear from our registered public speakers. We ask that decorum be maintained and civility and respect be shown during public comment.
One of our assistant general counsels will assist the chair in maintaining decorum during this period. We also want to remind our public speakers of the rules and expectations regarding the agenda public comment portion of the special school board meeting as well as board policy. Attorney Cooney, please explain the rules of public comment.
>> Thank you, madam chair. [clears throat] Uh public cover comment is governed by schoolboard policy 1020 and is intended to provide input on the board's duties, decisions, and the overall operation of the school district. The school board is viewpoint neutral during public comment per school board policy 1020 public
comment procedures. Speakers may state their name, city of residents, and whether they are lobbyists before beginning their remarks. All remarks must be directed to the board as a whole. The board will not respond to or engage with speakers during the public comment and no action will be taken
unless the item is on the agenda. Time limits. Because this is a special school board meeting, public comments are limited to agenda items. During the agenda speaking time, speakers will have up to three minutes per item and up to one minute on motions or amendments per meeting with an additional one minute if
a motion is introduced. The chair may adjust the order of speakers, recognize speakers, and enforce all time limits. The chair may reduce individual speaking time or establish a total time limit for public comment when necessary to ensure all speakers have an opportunity to be
heard. As such, pursuant to section Roman numeral 7 C of policy 1020, the chair has exercised her discretion to establish the following speaking limits. 3 minutes if there are 10 speakers, two minutes if there are up to 15 speakers, and one minute if there are more than 15
speakers. A visible timer will be used and the microphone may be turned off when time expires. Content limitations. Speakers must limit their comments to matters related to schoolboard business and for agenda items must remain relevant to the specific item. Comments may not address
matters that are pending litigation, quas judicial proceedings, active investigations or administrative hearings. Solicitation and lobbying activities must comply with the applicable schoolboard policies. Standards of decorum. Abusive abusive language defined as profamid profanity,
threatening or name calling is prohibited. In addition, clapping, hissing, booing, shouting, yelling, or other disruptions from the audience are not allowed. Enforcement. Speakers who fail to follow proper decorum in the chambers will be ruled out of order by the board chair. Failure to comply may
result in the microphone being turned off or a recess being called. After a warning, the chair may also direct removal from the meeting by law enforcement or sergeant-at-arms. Madam Chair, >> thank you. Attorney Cooney, the board wants to hear from you, and we appreciate your cooperation in maintaining a respectful, orderly, and
productive meeting environment. When it is time for public speakers, I will call five at speakers at a time. I don't see anyone in the audience. Um, and when you hear your name, please line up at the podium. Um, please follow staff's directions when at the podium.
All right. May I have a motion and a second on item one advertising proposed millillage levies and tenative budget for fiscal year 2026 2027. Second move by Miss Thompson, seconded by Miss Coleman. It is moved and seconded to move item one to the floor.
Um any public comment, Mr. Hill? >> No comment. >> Board member discussion. None. Um all in favor of approving item one say I. I. >> All oppose say no. >> No. >> Item passes with one dissenting vote from Mr. Seivera. Mr. Hill, is anyone on
the line? >> Board members Holmes and Rupert. >> Yeah. Okay. Could I I didn't hear the votes? >> There were um yay votes. >> Okay. Thank you. Um so it passes uh with
one dissenting vote. All right. Um could I have a motion and a second item two? through tenative district educational facilities plan fiscal year 2026 2027 >> moved by Miss Thompson seconded by Dr. Zean. This evening is the first of two special school board meetings for the
district educational facilities plan for July 1st 20 plan for July 1st 2026 through June 30th 2031. This plan will be presented to the school board for adoption at the second meeting on September 1st 2026. I now turn it over to the superintendent who will now give a brief overview of
the dis the district educational facilities plan. >> Thank you madam chair and turn it over to Miss Johnson and her team to go over pre brief presentation >> through the chair. We will have a brief presentation by Omar Shim the director of capital over the tenative district
education facility plan for fiscal year 26 and 27. Omar Shim, director of capital budget. Uh thank you, Madam Chair and board members and Dr. Heepern. Uh this first special school board meeting
uh this evening is to discuss the district educational facilities plan. Um and we'd like to remind everyone that this is the first of two meetings um before the final adoption in September uh on September 1st.
uh also that throughout the year of course those budget amendments can also occur um as needed or directed by the board. Do we have a clicker? See if we can get a clicker. Um
so I just also wanted to thank the board uh for the feedback that we got at the last workshop in June um where we received feedback from the board. Um today we'll present a tenative DFP uh that incorporates that feedback. Um
our presentation is very short um and it uh it's a overview of the detailed plan that you have before you. Um once our presentation is complete the board can provide uh additional feedback and staff was available to answer questions. Um if
you go to slide three uh this slide show uh this slide on revenues uh shows projections of approximately $4.1 billion over five years from fiscal year 27 fiscal year 2027 to fiscal year 2031.
Um for fiscal year 27 millage revenues reflect a 3.9% increase over last year's millage revenues. Um and that's based upon uh Broward County prop property uh um assessments as of July 1, 2026
certified values. Uh local sources outside of Capitol Mill include mostly impact fees. Um also the district is utilizing certificate of participations or otherwise called cops uh financing in
the first year um as we discussed at the last workshop. um as well as as uh appropriate lease financing for equipment and vehicles. State funding comes to the district mostly for charter schools, but the district does still receive some state
funding for district-run schools um from motor vehicle license plate revenue, also called CNDS. Uh for fiscal year 2026, this includes $57.3 million in capital reserve funds um for the period ending in June that
we're carrying over. And the remaining carryover of 404.8 million is allocated to ongoing projects and capital programs. On slide four, um this shows the appropriate appropriated items from the
board approved from last year's plan along with updated fixed costs such as debt payment, building leases, and capital salaries. Um, and based on feedback from the board at the last workshop in June, um, $40 million in
funding for previously approved projects that were scheduled beyond the this fiscal year fiscal year 2027 were moved up to accomplish beautifification and critical projects. Uh, this includes interior exterior painting, flooring,
marquees, HBAC and drainage projects. Uh this table also includes the new funding recommendations that have been discussed with the board at the last workshop and summarized on the next slide. Uh the majority of the carryovers are ongoing facility projects uh and
planned work in progress as discussed in the previous slide. Um unallocated reserves including those funded available from for board priorities and minimum reserve balance according to the fund balance policy. uh school by school district-wide
funding details are included in the DEFP, the the detailed version. Uh on slide five, uh this highlights the new funding recommendations for fiscal year 2027. Um and I'll do slide uh five and and six
together um because that's really what describes the these uh new funding recommendations. So, of course, uh for for the facility projects, it includes funding for Coral Glades Auditorium, um Parkway Middle Replacement, uh uh
Markham Elementary School replacement, um and HVAC replacements at Crystal Lake Middle School, uh Watkins Elementary, Sandpiper, Riverside, and also New River Middle School. Uh there's a heat pump replacement there. Uh there's also a
schematic design for the prototype of middle a middle school prototype. Um uh for PO additional funding for HBAC projects, structural repairs, school painting and beautifification was were
increased um in the additional fiscal year 2027 in response to the feedback that we got at the last workshop. So, I just want to emphasize that uh not only did we move up funding that was already
in the plan, but in the requested items in the DFP for beautif schools, the way that schools look, we also moved up the additional funding recommendations. So there's a significant amount of money there to address those needs um uh that that are
there uh for environmental health and safety. Uh the drainage and storm water modification uh were increased in the current fiscal year 2027. Uh also um some of those projects were moved up to
address those sooner. Uh additional funding for ERP subscription cost for information systems. Um there's additional funding for ERP subscript subscription costs moved to uh which moved from general fund to capital. Um
uh and this is a $6 million savings to the general fund. Uh the additional network and server equipment uh $2.2 million and of course the new ERP system that we talked about earlier today. uh athletics. Um there's additional
funding for scoreboard replacement and turf fields and an annual track replacement districtwide. Uh so that takes >> on the ERP system. We moved that from the general fund. That's one of the things that saved the fund balance this fiscal year. So I just want everyone to
be aware. >> Uh you can go to slide seven. Uh now this slide goes over some of the items for future consideration as we develop our long range facility plan uh redefine schools and navigate financial challenges in uh operating a district
with declining enrollment. Um uh and also as discussed I also wanted to point out um that at the workshop that we we we do have uh debt capacity um that we're using a little bit of it now for the cops that we have um and that's to
to to available to fund capital projects that meet uh those types of uh you know our ability to finance them with cops. And with that, that concludes my presentation and we
can take any questions. >> Mr. Hill, are there any public speakers registered? >> No speakers. >> Board member discussion. >> Miss Thompson. >> Thank you, chair. I think I'd um can you staff give a summary of how we're
factoring in um re our upcoming redefining decisions when we're making the plan and then also our facilities condition assessment when we're determining what projects to do when. >> Go ahead. I I'll start it off or Martin
if um you can finish it up. So, as far as um the upcoming redefining effort, um as stated in there, a lot of it is to be determined. Uh we know we have FCI that's driving, student enrollment that's driving. Um we in the DFP can be
amended um throughout the year if if there's some pressing issue that needs to be addressed throughout the year during the school year as a result of redefining. But most of the work um that we identify for any impact to any final board decisions that are usually made
December and and January, uh we start talking with the capital um uh capital fund um team and also the facilities and capital program team about specific needs to transition any facility and uh and recommend any amendments if needed
um to to um realize whatever we need to do for any other redefining changes that happened. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Bowman. >> Thank you. Um, so do we So, I'm I appreciate that we're
putting the beautifification um budget on there. I think I actually got a lot of good feedback after that meeting. Dr. Sean, that was a good suggestion. People really um like that. So, are do we have a way that we're going to identify who's going to re
receive beautifification or have we identified >> well >> lots of them can use it. So, how are we going to >> Yeah, it's it's going to be a combination. Why Why am I echoing like that? I don't know. But, um it's going to be a combination of working with
directly with our school leaders. um number one work working with the uh facilities and PO team. Um but those are the two boots on the ground um uh teams in the district that have intimate knowledge about um some of the specific
needs for beautifification um at their schools. Um and also the directors too. One of the things the directors look for too as they go out and visit schools to support schools is also beautifification needs. Um, at one point we were recording some of that information um, just to make sure we have some data
around that, but the PO team and the principles are are going to be the folks on the ground that alert us. Uh, we can go out and assess and see what the specific needs are. Um, start creating that scope of work that needs to be done to get that school up the par as far as beautifification. We got some schools, I
mean, they don't even have windows right out front. So, you got to go make some some facads of a window, right? Just to give that aesthetic. So there's things around the district of simple painting things like that. I already know we have a painting schedule. We see what I've done for some of the schools but
principles and PO are going to be um some of the main caveat as we uh create some type of methodology once we get that information of how we're going to divvy out to address some of the needs. >> Right. So I guess the qu the yeah there is something weird happening with the microphone. Um the the question is are
we going to have any input in that or be able to advocate for our districts and obviously some I think probably areas >> absolutely we can be unification than others and when we >> take that into consideration >> once we start just like uh I say for instance uh we have a uh painting plan a
playground plan so we can create a similar type of plan with a cadence and bring that to the board about based on need that's been observed and collected from the people who are on the all the time and and and um possibly also fold in some of the PTSA or SAC um
committee folks as far as getting the parent perspective of um what needs what aesthetic needs um need to be supported that are so structural that it's going to suck up all the money. >> Right. Okay. So, that's good. But it'll come back to us then. We'll see it again. Okay. That's great. Um schematic
design, $1 million for a middle school. So, what's the plan for that? This is for Margate Middle, correct? Yes. Um so this we talked to the board about um it's been few weeks ago uh
about the amount of uh work that needs to be done and continuing to do that work. It is advantageous for the district to actually build a replacement school. Um and so paying for the design which we will keep that design in our
repository so we can have a design so we can just press a button to go in the future for other schools as well too. So won't be just for this specific school will be a design that we can use in later years as well. >> And when we're talking schematic I just for my own knowledge this is like every
single part of that building that's in like every electrical wire and everything. >> I forgot I have Miss Coley back there. She can she can give up. This isn't just like a couple lines like I had a sketch. Okay, >> good. >> Sonia Coley, thank you. It would be uh
really a prototype. So, um we would get a design from >> [snorts] >> um an architect that had a full layout of a middle school, >> but would it be all the engineering specs and everything else? >> Um absolutely. So, a full design plan that would be adaptable to the district.
>> Okay. Okay. Thank you. And then we can use it again because that was >> Absolutely. And that's one of the plans too that we've talked about with the capital program is I think one of the key hill is that we didn't have designs in the past, right? Um and um that's how you bring uh projects to a close quicker
when you can start u quick because you have designs and you want to talk about >> replicate it and okay that sounds great. And then the u my last question is um with the cops the availability to have um you know use uh debt or you know use
our c um our equity. Do we do we have a plan? Have we identified projects that we're we want to do for that? I know that there's you know like we've talked about rebuilding schools and things like that. So where where are we in that process in
terms of >> not yet that will be um a collaborative job with the long range master planner right to bring something holistic and very well thought out to the board about what to pursue. Um and then uh Mr. Shim,
if you want to give the board kind of a little bit more detail about cops, uh what it's used for, what's the what's the dollar? Because you don't want to use it for small projects, right? You want to use it for the Yes. Yes. Um so people have a firm understanding of of
the of the use uh for cops and the most beneficial use. >> Yes. Basically, COP is a lot like a mortgage. you you can only use it for whole buildings and they utilize a portion of that for collateral value in terms of when they actually use the the
financing source. Um, however, you can leverage a portion of it after you've identified those those types of projects that are leveraged. About 30% of it can be used for things that are not leveraged. Um so that's basically what
it is but it is underlying um assets in the districts that have whole building values. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? >> I have my hand raised. I did not get a text message from you, Miss Rupert, but
please go ahead. I cannot see when your hand is raised. Um, I know, but Andre is monitoring, so he's been doing a pretty good job up to this. Thank you, though, for the reminder. Um, I have a question about Glades Auditorium, the additional 9 million. Um, I pretty much know the
answer, but um, is it absolutely required, a necessity for this aspect of it? Um, or is it something that we could defer on? >> Um, it's necessary due to that blackbox theater. Um yeah, correct me if I'm
wrong, Miss uh Co. because of that blackbox theater and the actual auditorium which has raised the um the cost. >> Okay, >> Coral Glades um high school. >> Got it. Um thank you. I I do want to say
uh for the C Robert Markham replacement building um it's about time. I'm very excited uh about that. So, I look forward to having that um really be a a model of the school environment both
inside and outside that we want to have in the district and that what our community wants. Uh and I want to say thank you for the HVAC for Crystal Lake, Watkins, Sandpiper, Riverside, and New River Middle. Much needed. Uh and my
comment about the schematic scene, the 1 million for the swing space. Uh my question originally was why not use any of the previous schematics, but you explained uh Dr. Hepern that this was for a middle school and we only had other ones like for elementary.
>> Uh go ahead, Miss Cole. I'm not sure about the previous schematics she's referring to. We don't have um any previous uh prototypes for elementary or uh middle school. >> Okay. Um I guess I was thinking that we
did when we went I'm trying to think where it was um where we actually walked out a a room with the uh designers for Mo for Markham um to see exactly what the square footage of a classroom would look at. Um, do you remember what that
was, Miss Coley? >> It could have been a design criteria, but we don't have we don't have any prototypes. >> Gotcha. And we've utilized these in the past. Yes. >> We have gone out with a prototype from
other school districts. Uh, yes. >> So, we've kind of piggybacked on them. >> Yes. And I I guess this question is for our attorney uh Mr. Cooney. Is it permissible to reach out to the other
districts to see if uh we could utilize any of their um middle school prototypes? >> Yeah. Through the chair. >> Won't be too hectic. >> Absolutely. You can always reach out and ask them if they have some prototype designs that have already been
constructed. Um, and then our facilities folks will make a determination if that works best for us. >> Um, okay. I I know that this is it's very needed for Margate Middle School, but I wanted to have a bigger conversation
uh about we need to be getting these prototypes either from other schools. Um it's makes me uncomfortable to do the million dollars just for this design and I know that it will get the money will be beneficial as it moves on and we utilize it in other areas um hopefully
and um I I understand that but we also have an economic uh situation. So if and when we can or we're looking to do this with another school, obviously Margate Middles, we will be able to use again, but I don't think it would cost us any
money to reach out to the districts to see if they have a a piggyback that they did or or you know, I'm not using the right terminology, but um my my conversation to my colleagues is if we
can get one that's already up and and built built and being utilized, then um I think that we could move forward with that and spend spend less money and have more opportunity to to get these done. So, put more money back in our bank. So,
um that's my that's my comment for that. Of course, I'll be voting for this for um for all the schools that need their stuff, but I would be remiss if I didn't, you know, put out an alternative for um going forward. I don't want to do another million for a elementary school.
I want to do another one for high school. I don't particularly want to go down that road. Um so like to really hear from my colleagues on that. >> Thank you. >> Miss Rupert, if I can add um
>> one of the concerns that I have about going to other school districts and using a prototype because we're having that concern right now. um what is it going on four five years where we used the prototype and um you do and to
transition that prototype to meet uh our specifications is going to cost money as well um and so that's why um you know I I support um creating designs spending the money to create designs I for middle school eventually it's going to be elementary schools probably high school
too and then those are uh tried and trueue designs that we can depend end on. And when it comes time to um construct a new a new school or new building of a school, we don't have to worry about going to go get another prototype from another school district that's using totally different
specifications than what we're using and then we're spending the money anyway um to hire somebody to do redesigns to meet our specifications. So just just some food for thought on that conversation, Miss Rert. >> I I appreciate that, Dr. Hepper. Nice to
hear your voice. Um, I I do understand that, but the the thought of spending $3 million for that um just kind of sits with me the wrong way. Just, you know, just my thought. I understand um putting money out now will
save us time and hopefully um a headache going forward. Um, but we really have to be very careful on the amount of money that goes out and um, we have to just button down. Um,
thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks, Madam Chair. >> Thank you. Anyone else? >> Dr. Zean, >> thank you. Um, might not surprise anybody. I can't wait to see the FCA data like coming in
and helping us with our priorities. Um it's been uh a smart thing to do. It's taken us a while to get it all together as it always does, but I'm really looking forward to having an elevated conversation, you know, based on district-wide. So, Dr. Eper, thank you for pulling all that project work
together and and providing the data to us as we help uh make decisions about where to spend the money. long-range master planner, another big addition to the process here. Um, look forward to um, seeing them use FCA data and use all the things they know about master
planning to help us prioritize. Dr. Eper, I'm right that those two things are going to help us a great deal. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> And I like this plan. I appreciate you guys uh, putting it together. I would ask for, you know, one something to think about. We continue to have old mares all over Broward County. you know,
we had special funding to buy new mares, but we just didn't have enough money to take the old ones out. They look kind of odd to me. They're not wellmaintained. Um, if part of that brutification is to get rid of those old mares, uh, uh, I I would see that as a wise investment. I
wanted to talk to you though about my role as a Broward County School Board member on the Broward Planning Council. Uh, the Broward planing council is the preliminary board that reviews developments all over Broward County. uh we have to make sure that it meets the Broward County land use plans. We have to, you know, kind of make
recommendations to the county commission about whether it makes sense even uh to do the the developments that are being proposed in Broward County. In that role, we get engaged a lot uh and we get engaged early. So, we see uh significant developments on things like live local.
I've talked about that for a couple meetings about how a developer can bypass the rules of the city commission and county commission as long as they set aside 30 or 40% of their housing units for affordable housing. It's the legislaturator's view uh for the last
three and a half years to get development money to spend uh in special places arterial roadways um as long as they build enough of of this affordable or workforce housing. um because I'm in engrossed in those
conversations every month and because we see things early and because our long range master planner in the FCA is only going to be focused on what we have today. Uh Dr. Heepard, I think there's an opportunity to kind of u mix these two roles. But let me let me ask you
something about page seven if you don't mind. Uh Mr. Shim, what's the limiting factor uh for using the debt capacity? Again, I I believe you don't bring a paper report to a knife fight. And we're in a knife fight right now about public education.
And I want to bring all our resources to bear on winning students to come to our schools, both those that live here now and those that don't live here now. But we want them to live here because we can provide them maybe a neat combination of affordable housing and great schools in
the same zip code. So what is the limiting factor about using uh the debt facility that you're using uh uh in today's presentation? >> Uh beyond the type of projects that I mentioned before um the limiting factors
would be there's a statutory uh 75 so 75% of your millage can be used towards debt service >> um and you can't spend any more than that. We also have a policy um and our policy is a little bit more restrictive.
It's 60% of our millage can be used for to pay debt for uh um for cops. >> Terrific. But my understanding though, that's a Broward County School Board policy. >> Yes. >> Which means the Broward County School Board might adjust that if they ever felt like doing it. But even at the 60%
we have debt capacity. we could build buildings and new schools, uh, academic buildings, uh, things that, uh, we normally would spend, uh, you know, I call them construction projects. And so, what's limiting us is that we
haven't generated requirements yet that should be considered by this board for building new schools. Is that fair? >> Yes, that's correct. >> I appreciate that. And tell me about the 30% because I'm not sure the board absorbed that. Let me just give you a hypothetical. We build uh a new elementary school, $50 million, clean
dirt, full up construction. We follow Dr. Heepburn's model. We build it in 12 months. We build it somewhere where we think we're going to attract new people to our school system or to our county. That suggests to me that there's 30% of other money that we could also get. What
could we spend that $15 million on? >> Typically, we can spend it on comprehensive needs. So any other uh things that the district needs that we can spend it on. >> Wow. >> Um that's capital. It cannot be spent on general fund or any other area.
>> All right. So this cop seems like quite a gift. >> Yep. The gift that keeps on giving. >> I like that. I like that. I want some more of that. Let's go. So let me just hypothetically, Dr. Heer, describe what I see over at the B Planning Council. um
people bypass the county, they bypass the city, but they have to come and report to us and share what they're doing. So, a developer comes in and is going to build 4,000 new units. Uh 1,300 of them have to be affordable workforce housing. It's across the street, uh maybe from one of our worldclass A-rated
schools. I think if we wanted to think strategically and not just chase declining enrollment, my suspicion, and Dr. Pepper, I'm curious about your beliefs about this. Do you believe in an environment like that where we're offering young
families, some with kids, some who are thinking about having kids, affordable housing in Broward County next to a world-class A-rated school? Do you think that we would attract people to that development if they could do affordable housing and worldclass education in the
same zip code? >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I I I believe that because I've seen it done. I've it's currently being done in two other school districts that are experiencing declining enrollment right now um in the state of Florida um because the density is increasing in a certain part of the county. So you still have to address the
needs um with seats because you can't bus a kid from one part of the county all the way for an hour and a half bus ride to the to the other. Um so I I it's in in the works in other school districts right now that are experiencing the same decline in enrollment. So
>> terrific. So, so let me try and connect a few dots. If in fact there's been a live local development or multiple live local development, if there's been a place like Hollywood that is building a copious amount of new uh things in their downtown development authority and we
can provide them A-rated award-winning education nearby, it sounds to me like we can actually increase enrollment for Broward County School while we're also fighting against declining birth rates and other things that are causing us to decline. I think that's wise policy. I will I'm sorry I'm
almost done. Um I will go back and look at the developments that have come before the Broward Planning Council. Uh I will ask the staff of the county to send the material about it so that you know about it. Again, the long-range master planner, the FCA that are going to be helpful, but they're not familiar with some of these explosive
developments that are going on that do come and brief the Broward Planning Council. And so I just want to make sure that our staff is aware of those things, Dr. He and that you can consider them uh for how might we take advantage of this cops facility, the gift that keeps on
giving. Thank you, Mr. Shim, for that because you not only can borrow $50 million to build an expansion or a new school, but you get $15 million and I think the way that works, Mr. Shim, if we had something allocated already that was going to cost $15 million, we can
now use that cop's 15 million to pay for it, which frees up $15 million for us to do it. Again, you don't bring a memo or a report to a knife fight. You bring all your resources. You bring all your intellect. You bring all your institutional connections to that and
you say, "Look, uh, we know being an A-rated district means people are more likely to go to our schools. We know Cambridge award means people will look at our schools. Beautification means people will come tour our schools. Generally, when they tour our schools, they consider enrolling there. The next step might be also to look at some of
these larger developments in places around Brier County and see if we could invest with cops dollars to grow the capacity and grow our enrollment because people will move here uh simply because of those two things. So I'll ask the staff to share that with you. Dr. Heern, can I just have them send it with you or
to you? And >> yeah, you can send send it to me uh Miss Johnson. Yeah. >> Um and yeah, and we'll get it to the right parties. But and you make a great point, um Dr. seeing because we do have to be aware of of pockets of of density and income and density due to
residential development. Um especially when it comes to affordable housing in certain parts of of our county because I know I I'm seeing it being done in other uh districts as as well because guess what? If we don't do it, somebody else is going to come and address the needs of
>> No, I think I think spot on and I uh I watch charter schools close enough to know that they won't let that money just sit around. >> Absolutely. >> And uh now we have micro schools. You know, the legislator's allowed up to 150 uh students in any commercial building. So, if you have a strip mall, you can
open a school without asking anybody for permission for up to 150. It doesn't take long for a few of those to build up where these uh big developments are coming in to meet the need. They don't offer what we offer though. I mean, we do have a huge institutional advantage of being a highly rated uh school
district. I just like the fact that it takes about two years to get these developments done. If we decided today to do something, it takes us max speed to design a year to build a year. Um but I also feel very strongly as Dr. Heern does that if we do that and people know
there's a world class A-rated school coming near these highly uh dense development areas more people with kids are going to move here because that gives them what they need affordable housing and great education right across the street or in the neighborhood. U so I'll make sure that that information comes over and I look forward to uh what
staff's recommendations will be uh with that data. Thank you very much chair. >> Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, you guys have your direction. >> Yes, >> we do. Thank you. >> All right. Um, the question is on the approval of
item two. Those in favor of approving item two say I. >> I. >> Those opposed say no. >> Eyes have it and item two is approved. The scheduled order of business for this. >> I was a two. I mean, I was a yes. Sorry.
The scheduled order of business for the special school board meeting of the school board of Broward County, Florida has been completed. Seeing no objections, I will now adjourn the special school board meeting. Hey, hey, hey.