all right at 6 o'clock we're going to call this meeting to order Uh all board members are accounted for I'd like to ask you to please rise for the pledge of allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Uh Jeff do you have any additions to the agenda nope No one else has any additions to the agenda I'd look for a motion to approve
the agenda as shown I'll make motion Jolyn on the motion I'll second Randy on the second All in favor say I I Opposed Motion carries
scheduled presenters Uh this will be this was supposed to be for with Amanda Thompson for the school forest presentation but uh Jeff is going to take this over So my first year here um actually it was the very first month we
had a family that was interested in doing some legacy work for their son that had passed away uh out in was it Utah i believe he was a Yep park ranger And uh doing some climbs out in Utah and uh passed away out there during that
time but they wanted to leave a legacy uh in remembrance of their son And so they decided to start pouring their heart and soul into the school forest here and they have been doing a fantastic job with in collaboration with the school district employees like Amanda and Dwayne Scott um and our
facilities department in revitalizing the forest and um rejuvenating the trails and adding more items into the school forest and we are actually a uh Minnesota uh DNR recognized uh school
forest for the state and as you can tell by some of these pictures coming up there's a lot of activities ities that take place down in the forest both in the elementary side and and the high school side So lots of learning going on in the program there And so if you look at the aerial
view uh with the uh the forester between the two buildings it goes uh from the street right out here all the way down uh getting close to the dumps if you guys obviously know where that is at And so previously it was designated in the
1980s or the 90s We're not really sure Uh as an environmental learning area and in 2009 there's a restructuring of the area with school improvements So I think there's probably trails that were created or cut into that area Yeah
I think when the when the construction was done in this part of the building they changed some of the things out there Okay And if I get a over my skis a little bit too much just stop me and say a little bit more And in 2020 uh we came
we became part of the Minnesota State School Forest Program with generous support from Tim and Julie Melis uh who helped us uh get that kickstarted and rejuvenated as well as I mentioned before And from 2020 to 2025
uh there was a lot of uh habitat improvement and other amenities that were added as far as a deck and overlook area and um receding of the the natural um grasslands out there and some added trees as well
uh some of the habitat improvements Uh there is a lot of buckthornne removal prairie restoration and tree and perennial planting as I mentioned before but you start to see some of the the areas come back to life again from within the school forest And these are great learning opportunities for all of our
kids of all ages Um there's a gravel entry path that was added Uh observation deck There's three group seating areas and Eagle Scout Scout projects that created some benches along the some of the
trails Uh there's signage that's been added and then wood chip trails You take a lot of the the trees that have fallen and then chip them up and then add them back into the the trail system uh with a lot of help from not only the volunteers that have helped but also our facilities
and maintenance uh people as well Um a lot of donated money has gone into here from area businesses and we're happy to see that over the years So we're really proud of those uh donations Uh some of the the big uh resources that
we that we got right away were from uh this couple that makes field desks as they're called where kids each kid gets a a desk to take outside with them and they can have uh different pieces of whatever they're learning that day
within the field desk and they have something to write on um the school for forest program has provided a lot of freebies uh to us by p being a part of that program and they also provide a lot of training for staff uh on an ongoing
basis and so we've had some um staff take part in that and then we've had like full-on staff training earlier this fall November November where we had staff down into the forest there So here is some different
activities uh that kids have taken part in between elementary fed sixth grade STEM survivor survival shelter design and construction There's a third grade plant scavenger hunt ecology investigations
through biology reading groups from kindergarten and our natural resources class doing chainsaw skills out in the woods which is awesome Um so here is a list of donors The sign is actually just right out
here and Gemini from in town did uh donated the sign and then we can add placards to the sign as we continue to get our partners list going here And this is a very extensive partners list obviously uh that's been created So if you get a chance to take time to take a
look at that is just awesome And I think that's it Such a cool thing that our school has that I think we can offer the kids I think that workout thing is kind of cool Yeah Come over there Very appreciative that our school
has it And we probably meet We used to meet a lot more often when this is first getting going again but we probably meet what twice a year now Once in the fall once in the spring just to kind of keep up the especially the prairie restoration and the control burns that we do every once in a while Tim and
Julie have been great partners in organizing volunteers and um they they've just been great I can't say enough about them and the people that they've gotten to work with us and get donations for us as well So very happy Great learning area for our kids
And the staff get educated also Staff get educated different ideas on how to use it There's lots of free um curriculum provided from the DNR everybody has access to because we're an official school for how many other schools do you think have
something like this i can't remember what the number is It's there's actually quite a few Um and they range from quite a bit bigger than ours to there are some urban school forests that are literally like Yeah That gets counted Yeah Yeah I mean
it I can't remember what exactly um kind of process is to become one but um there are there are quite a few schools that have them So I'd say maybe 150 180 something like that About half of the
schools in the state Yeah Cool It's good All right Thank Amanda for putting that presentation together Yeah All right I don't see anyone here uh for public input so we won't do that Uh
we'll move on to consider I suppose I'm good You're good Josh this will be your turn to talk now So consideration to approve the finance report Josh uh nothing too outstanding
here Um you'll see plenty more numbers in the next couple of meetings as we uh in May will present the uh preliminary budget for fiscal 26 and then in June the final revision of the budget for fiscal 25 Uh in the 26 budget we'll have
the reductions that are made and then some considerations as we go through the process of u tonight's meeting as well as a couple of admin meetings and maybe a finance meeting prior to that happening So uh you'll get a lot more information on numbers in the next couple of months uh cash flow here There's not a whole lot of outstanding
things uh to mention It's a normal activity throughout the time of the district Uh one thing to note um right in the middle there that bus lease uh we're finally um tenatively going to be in that bus
soon That's not real accurate but um something that should have come you know before school started U we're finally in the prep to to get there and go through the paperwork to have at leasing uh work done So when the bus does arrive we can make that transition pretty smooth Um most likely not going to have it for
very much of this fiscal year but at least we'll have it in our in our fleet Um further down that line the 20 2015a uh debt service payment most of our debt is set to pay in uh the end of January early February uh as a principal payment
interest and then we have a interest only payment in August This is one of the few that are set up where it's a little bit off schedule Um we do that in order when the financing came through the timing of the project uh to try to keep the debt level balanced Uh we do
have uh the pretty much structured so that in 2032 essentially uh there's a large window opening for the district to look at um maybe where the priorities are uh in terms of either facilities or things that can happen to the district without having to have a huge impact to
taxpayer But in order to get to that point uh we got to be pretty frugal and consider the things that we do uh with our funds uh including one of the projects we're doing this summer the uh roof project There's two real big sections of roof that need some attention Uh one that is in dire more
dire need than the other and that's one I'll be taking care of this summer The rest we feel we can get through for a while Uh but again trying to minimize the impact the taxpayer and maximize the uh the structure and integrity of the district and the building and making
sure that we're not having water in in classrooms and further eroding uh parts of the building So uh there'll be some work being done in in the district uh over the summer Uh it's important to note especially you know taxpayers are all concerned about where our dollars go Um dollars for that are not dollars that
can be spent in the classroom Those are facility uh dollars and and not that we can use for salaries and those sorts of day-to-day operations Um and it's important that we keep good care and have good stewards of the facilities as well because what we need to have is students in make sure they're safe and
they taken care of well too So uh it is a scheduled project and they'll happen and uh the bids will be opened up on May 1st for that and hopefully they come well within the project boundaries that we have for it so that we can move smoothly into the summer uh and fall and get that project done Um again that goal
uh things too big out of the ordinary there If you have any questions I can certainly do whatever I can to answer Any questions for Josh just one question on the inveny I know we had talked at one point that's going to come in a different form When when
does that Yeah So so we got about two years of payments after this one Uh this deal was structured rent energy came in uh to forego paying the normal property tax Uh and the city got a portion and the district has a portion All three
entities the city the county and the school had to agree for them to come in Um and uh we've got a portion that comes directly to us and then another portion that comes in through CS where there's two payments listed there Uh it will come in a different form They will be on the regular tax when it comes in Um I
would have to do some talking with the county to see exactly what the difference potentially could be to that Uh I don't know what it's going to be significantly uh different amount It could be drastically less could be more I'm not sure where it be at without the uh you know talking to the county and
see where that would follow Um it could be and I don't think it will be but it probably could be something where uh they get to the end of their kind of taxfree part and they were to change how they operate to we don't know what what would be in store for there but uh how it should work is the payments would end
and they go on the regular tax rule Thanks Mhm There's no other questions I'd look for a motion to approve the finance report I'll make a motion Pete on the motion I'll second Jody on the second Any other
discussion all in favor say I I Oppose Motion carries Consent agenda Items under the consent agenda are considered routine and will be enacted under one motion In the event a board member wants to discuss any item it will be removed from
the consent agenda for separate action Jeff would you like to read the resolution of acceptance of gifts yes Here are the donors for this month We have $2,7918 from Northland Safety Solutions for a softball pitching machine
$949.99 from the Ed Foundation for camera lens kit for Mr Fogerty for the lantern $470 from the Ed Foundation for the James J Hill House and Capital Tour for Miss Lushki $2845 from the Ed Foundation for a
charging rack for the silent system uh headphone system for Miss Ella and then $3,950 from the Ed Foundation for Happy Numbers website for which is an app for Mrs Alers and I believe they're going to be using it uh even more throughout the
elementary not just in second grade So we do thank our uh Ed Foundation and our other partners Northland Safety Solutions for their generous gifts Right on And I'll add that silent system is pretty neat It is The Happy Numbers website is um approved
for the whole It is So there's not limited on login math programming Correct Yeah Awesome All right If no one wants anything else pulled out separately I would look for a motion to approve the consent agenda Make motion
Jolyn on the motion Second Luke on the second Any further discussion all in favor say I I Oppose Carries Uh we will move on to the soups report
Yes Um just kind of an update Not a bad complaint Yeah Uh federal and state educational fiscal forecast The state really hasn't made much headway uh over the past week or two since our last board meeting in the
federal We don't have a whole lot of more information as well but we're continuing to keep eyes on it here Uh I did or I was able to attend the state of the state uh speech by Governor Walls the other night at the state capital That was kind of neat I was
invited by Representative Altonorf to attend and that was on April 23rd Um first time I've ever been a part of that which was really interesting Um got a chance to talk to
Representative Woldorf and other representatives uh prior to that uh speech I did not get a chance to talk to Governor Walls although you almost came over and shook my hand and couldn't verify I saw that You had a fair amount of camera time I did This is not a
camera face So close I really thought he was reaching for your hand Yeah No But yeah good experience And I'd probably go up and do it again but that's just a high school social studies teacher nerd in
So pretty cool stuff Um I also want to make a statement that we we do realize that some of the the grade levels in the elementary the class sizes are getting up there which is a good problem to have and we are monitoring that And so um if you guys have parents reaching out to
you tell them that we are monitoring it and we'll have a recommendation probably at our main board meeting but we do want to see where those class sizes are going We don't want to jump too quickly and we can't wait until really August to find somebody but we are monitoring it and
are aware of it and we'll bring back a recommendation in May at the board meeting Um and then just a reminder on May 7th will be the schoolboard member day and this is also our walk to school day And
so if you guys are available uh prior to school to come in and greet kids when they come back in walking usually down here by the fieldhouse door 12 is a good place to to hang out and see all the elementary and high school kids coming in from downtown Do we have apples say
is there apples and waters this time there's waters I'm done Um I think that was it Okay Yeah I'm not sure if Lori got apples or was able to get apples uh for that but that's usually a good time And then do you want them to meet you in the high school office that day sure We
do high school first Okay Sure We'll just tell Stephen that we're just taking him first That's fine I have I have seniority over him Okay And what time you want to say usually the walk to school good time to
be there would be between 7:30 and 7:45 I would say But if if they can't make it until then do you want them there at 8 yeah that's that's when class will start So Okay Uh I don't see you guys have questions That's all I got Yeah Do on
the class size We got a couple Is that enrollment enrollment is up Is that what in in certain grade levels it is And so sometimes those you can't really determine who's all moving here or have kids to open enroll here And so sometimes the numbers get out of whack
with the rest of them So we may have to add staff if that's the case Which I said I mean it's a good problem to have And are those open moments they come in mid year like halfway through the year some of them do right and so you almost have to determine you know
some of them staying some of them leaving or we getting to a point where there's no way that many kids are going to leave So we're going to have to add Yeah You know because we may add some over the summer Okay So yeah just the main thing is if you're getting any concerns from parents about yeah we have one grade that class size are looking
like they're going to be above 30 just say that we're well aware of that and we're looking to be addressing that So all right let's move on to action items There is no old
business New business Consideration to approve extending the extracurricular committee recommendation to allow free admission for prek to 12th grade Canonfall students for all regular season bomber home games for a 2-year
trial The two-year trial was approved on May 22nd of 2023 So obviously the trials ended and do you guys want to continue moving forward with this on a trial basis do you want
to permanently put it in or do you just not want to continue anymore i think is the question And the finance committee had that on their agenda I believe and it was removed uh before it became a recommendation So it's wasn't recommended to be a part of the
cuts when the cuts were made Um but you guys I guess the question is do you want to extend the two-year trial then or do you want to have the full board just ended i guess personally for me uh what I think is given given um
what our financial situation is and we don't know what's going to happen going forward I personally think that we should look at this on a year-by-year basis Um that would give us an opportunity to know how our next
levy goes if we uh go for another levy So that's just my thoughts on that Prior to that what was the loss of revenue if we by allowing for free so obviously you're not having kids at events but we know what the estimated dollar It'd be a
little bit tough uh to go back and do like a historical simply because if you're looking at like a 5year look back two of those years are co where we weren't getting anything Um on average roughly uh the revenue and this is all activities revenue So it
would be not only gate but participation I think sometimes participation fluctuates a little bit on how kids are attending but we're just under about $180,000 a year in that sort of revenue um we're down about $5,000 and that's
hard to say if it's strictly just the revenue from admission Um but it's not a huge variance I I do like the idea of taking a look at it on a year-to-year basis rather than just throwing it in as a permanent thing It just gives you the
flexibility to bring it back if need be Um as a coach I do appreciate all the kids coming in Yeah absolutely They bring their parents generally hopefully Um but I also from the others have that
where I get where we got to make sure have it mindful of the dollar as well But short answer is having been a huge significant variance to have lost that revenue I think as volatile as everything is financially right now I think I think that's appropriate to keep
it fluid Yeah And the one thing I'd just piggyback on what Josh is saying like yeah maybe it's a $5,000 loss but we have or $5 loss of or $5,000 loss of revenue what we could possibly have but we have no data to track what what has
our concessions been doing since and those different kind of items And and what has our attendance been i I don't know if from a coach's aspect can you since we went this route can you tell if there's more people possibly in the gym i mean obviously that changes with
probably how we're doing and stuff too Strictly from my standpoint we've been more successful the last few years You tend to have more people show up when things are going well Um but we also don't have people show up when you have mass on CO So we it's hard to go back I
think if we do a year-to-year look back it makes a little bit easier to go out to get maybe a 5year historical that's more accurate Um to give you an idea of maybe what that the cost has been Um but I think you're right My kids going to get her 20 bucks either way whether it
goes $55 to admission 15 to concession or 20 to concession Correct And our clubs do the concession so that money's got to come back to kids anyway Absolutely So yeah and it was in finance it was important to that group that uh
this went forward but I do agree that looking at it yearly is at this point is I think it's beneficial for families to be able to go and have their costs reduced to be able to go family outing I agree well you might have a kid that wouldn't have never came along with not
bringing their parents but if you have a kid that's able to get in free now the parents might go well I agree I think parents are attending probably it's you know attending with those kids because teen is free so it's cheaper for the parents you just get the parent pass or
you know pay for it themselves to get in Yeah And in the spirit of doing this it was all about trying to build community and also you know there might be a kid that would never go to a basketball game or wrestling and then maybe he'll join wrestling and then there's there
it is one less barrier for a kid who wrestle and hang with his friends You know hey we're going to be basketball game tonight You know there's not that I have to worry about finding $5 to get there Yeah Safe place for kids to be Do you know if we've had any increased behavioral issues since we started doing
this at all if anything's been different No that that hasn't really changed Yeah sure Great opportunity for kids to hang out Yes And I think this is I don't know how many other schools do this and I think
that's just this is something that's really great that we can offer a and set us apart Yeah Y and we still do the visiting kids still get charged double Well I'd make the motion to continue on
with the free mission but revisit yearly I'll second that All right Luke with a motion for on an ann approval of an on an annual basis Uh Joan on the
second Any other discussion all in favor say I I oppose Motion carries Consideration to adjust administrative restructuring to include a reduction of the K through 12 dean of
students position Um with the uncertainty finances at the state and federal level um administratively we are recommending further restructuring of that of our administrative structure by reducing the K through2 Dina students position that
we have and if um you know if obviously if numbers go up or you know that's a good thing and we can revisit this later but at this point um with the uncertainty of finances and then um even some need obviously at the elementary level for consideration This is would be
a good time to reduce that position as well So I'm recommending that we reduce that position Tim I'm wondering you have any thoughts you want to add on this at all i think it's it's a smart time to do that It's a
there's not a person involved in the cut right now And I think we've proven over the course of the spring that we can make it work with just two principles Um yeah it we've done it before and we've had a lot more students here had
only two principles So it's possible just you know the we'll have to rep prioritize what we what we do but we can do that Do we know how Stephen uh feels he feels
the same way Yeah Any other questions for Jeff we're going to look at eliminating this before it even began Do we have any sort of threshold of if we get to a certain number you got to you can't I think it's more it's more of
a feel I would say with that position I don't think there's a threshold for that Depending on how the principles feel like what their needs are kind of thing Yeah I mean we'll we'll start noticing it with um probably behavior and attendance you know that it's probably the big part of that dean job Oh And so
um but we'll just be open if we need to come back you know a year or two or three or whenever it is it is cared out All right If no more questions I would look for a mo motion to approve the reduction of the K
through2 Dina students position Motion Randy on the motion I'll second Pete on the second Any other discussion all in favor say I I I Oppose
Motion carries Looks like we just have a discussion item Yes Referendum possibilities timeliness finance committee meeting etc Uh due to the timelines if uh if the board is going to consider going out for another
uh chance at passing the operating levy we need to start having those discussions right now because we need to pass resolutions and get uh some marketing stuff ready for this fall Uh the resolution timelines I believe are
in August but because of where the board meeting falls and when the deadlines are we need to start getting those ready to pass at the latest by the July board meeting And I'd prefer to probably have that done even before that So I think the big discussion points are one do you
want to go out for another chance at passing an operating levy um two uh what would that amount be look like for an increase last time we asked for $750 increase and we can we can gather
information on what those um tax impacts would be for the community like we did last time Um the the last time we passed an operating levy was about 20 years ago you know or we've had the same operating
levy in effect I should say for 20 years at this point And it doesn't have an inflationary factor That's another thing to consider as part of our questions about whether you want to add an inflationary factor into it Um what else
i think that's about it for now And that 750 was based on a 300,000 tax assessed value correct yeah At that time I had to go back and look at the literature but I think it was $300,000 average house I think you're right In the
community Um Yeah Uh well the soonest we can go out is November Yeah That's the only time cuz Yeah You can only do it once a year right and I'm assuming we they definitely don't want to do it in December That's a bad time So we're
gonna want to look at hitting this right in November right yep We'll do it on a general election and and well actually be the off cycle of the general election And so we would have to more than likely run it because I don't think there's going to be a special election held at
any of the count seats that I am aware of yet And so we would have to run this election that run us price wise and it'll still be about $10 to $15,000 Okay roughly um by the time you pay election
judges and rent the machines and do marketing materials and stuff like that and that's what every election costs us roughly Uh we do have good partners you know with the city in running those elections So uh Lori uh does a good job
with setting all that up I know I know the last time that we went out for one I mean we basically set that $750 mark because that is kind of what we needed in a way to basically represent what the
current $500 was 20ome years ago Correct And we're just trying to balance that out So now I don't know without without with that not passing now does that number
Mhm go up a touch which I hate to even say that or uh I guess I'd like to see some numbers if that 750 mark is something that uh works for us or not or Yeah I think when we we went out for
that um and it's the history of the district uh to not be excessive It was be something that was going to be you know pretty modest to get us through Look at the middle one right 700 for sure Uh that was our lowest one Oh yeah
it was 750 1,000 and 1250 survey If you look at you know what's roughly use thousand kids as your your number um a $750 increase would be a $750,000 increase of district in revenue Um we just reduced 580 and then also reduce
the bus off of that So kind of that ballpark and so we're looking at about 900,000 Um so to your point you know it could be a thousand then to get to get
Y Does it have to be on the ballot does it have to be a yes or no vote or can you give those tiers on the ballot yes or no yes or no yeah So we have to pick a number Yeah Do we know how many districts out there do um the increases
of inflation that utilizes that come since the legislature has allowed that that has been the routes that school districts have chosen to go just because that helps take out inflation in general The $500 that we currently have on the books that's been eaten up over the past 20
years with inflation right and so um depends on how you want to look at it I mean obviously if you go out for more you know there there's risk to that but if you don't ask for enough you don't want to go out twice right and so you got to find out where that sweet
spot is and and do a little bit of research on it But you also have to be able to justify why we need it And I think historically when you look at shoot even just the past three years how much money we've cut and this year initially we cut 560 we cut a bus for
140 so that's $700,000 we just cut roughly $100,000 dean position so that's $800,000 just this year and we're at 30 kids in a class right and so that's that's part of the narrative also for multiple grades what do you want what do
you want your school to look like right yeah and I think the question is too is what do we do different this time you know that will make this successful that we didn't already do last time I agree You know how how do we approach this differently to make this successful want to do this if we do something different
i challenge this group to figure out what that is I don't I don't have an answer yet because Well personally I think I'd like to approve all the cuts that will be made if the levy doesn't pass ahead of time I would agree with that Yeah we can market Not market is not probably the right word but we can
show that hey if this doesn't pass these are the hardline cuts I think if you have your cuts ready to go in September you pass them in September and say we're not going to go back and revisit this It's up to the community to figure out what they want their school to look like Yeah I know we it's not a threat but
this is a reality These are the cuts that we need to make Yeah And here's where we go We touched on it on the material last time We touched on this is what could potentially happen if this doesn't pass But I think maybe this time it just needs to be more very very black and white like this is the outcome This
is this is it because we we don't have another option financially Yeah And we're we're being responsible with the num whatever number we decide to go out with this time Uh it's not a want
This is a need And uh everyone needs to understand that and that's how that message needs to be put out there So and and the board I think intentionally wasn't threatening during the last one One we had survey data to back up what
our decision was Correct And two I mean just not the way to go about then also the taxpayers are going to be more informed right a general they might want to see maybe they want to see that Well that's where I mean on the literature and even
the presentations that we gave I mean it was stated what was going to be what was possibly going to be cut but it wasn't a sure thing And so that's why there's there is some people out in the community that were
I don't know if they just didn't pay attention at all that they were surprised when we had made certain cuts Well we didn't know that that was going to happen It's like well kind of put that out there Uh but that's where I think this this time I mean we just have to have that stuff approved right away
It needs to be very black and white and clear to the community Well we definitely have a large amount in the community too that just still seem to state this doesn't affect me I don't have kids in the school Yeah And that's part of the narrative also that correct the school district is a part of the community and if the school district
starts to fail and the community starts to fail Correct Right And maybe maybe we do better in in that department Maybe I you know to try to bring those votes in Are we able to separate and have two questions on the ballot so one for the inflationary writer and one
for the the dollar and all We could ask that question because you could ask a simple increase of I don't know pick a number thousand Yeah And then would you be willing to add an inflationary factor onto that mhm I'm thinking that's
probably doable We can ask Jeff at Ellers's advise you just have one question So then then the whole thing fails right Uh because I mean the the two to because what C the inflationary writers based on CPI right so you get two or three Okay
Last year was wild but average to there was feedback that people were would laugh at us asking for inflation factor because inflation was going crazy Right So they didn't they're voting on something but they don't know what they're going to be paying for It could keep going crazy And I did have some
feedback that was that didn't appreciate that so much Everyone's got to realize if their expenses are going up we're no different at this school our expenses but it's their vote in their wallet that you know that but the the cap there's a cap on what we can get for inflation
There is what the state gives in their revenue State a state Okay Yeah But not for an operating Well we wouldn't adjust at 7% or 8% It would go if it was on the operating levy Yeah It would it would follow that follow the CPI
The state only gives like three% Uh CPI or more than 2% the floor is 2% and the ceiling is 3% for the state aid of the inflationary But in an operating levy it
just follows whatever the number is whether it's higher or lower And is that auto adjusted or is that something we or we would approve to say if CBI was 7% and we say "Hey we only need five." You can under levy I suppose Oh you know for that year every time when you guys so in
September we would bring the initial levy information as it goes through the process So you get to December where you finally finalize a levy Uh you can always underlevy uh if you if the district chooses to to do so right so we don't Yeah I think that's something we can form in
the community too is say we might we not go for it all but if we just needed the CPI and we only got 5% of it seven they might see definitely if if our finances were in good shape that would show really good
faith the community by doing something I'd be interested to see if we can separate the questions out to I think you know aers and the only reason I would think that they would probably suggest just the one question is sometimes when you're given choice um you throw that inflationary part out they're not going to vote for that that
portion of it Um likewise if you have A B and C often times the lesser of the option but instead of just voting no on something Uh so just becomes something when it's on the ballot it'll be easier for someone to decide Uh if the board
wishes to have the second question on would definitely throw that on and do that for you But um I can see where they may advise and simple but There's there's instances where people may have thinking that they understand the two questions but they get in and then all a sudden they freeze in the ballot box
Yeah And they you know they may vote no on both of them Yeah you know and so but no one won as a vote for no one was and we we've done some multi- options in the past whether it's a survey or
um or the bond levy the bond levy and it was not well received and my from what the feedback was to me is it was and it was a little more confusing than maybe this but it was confusing I think people there was multiple levels and one had to pass to get the next and that was messy
for people question but in this is if we do we need both to pass to get one or could we could one fail and we get the other you would not get you can't put the inflationary on the current levy because that'd be in place Uh you'll be revoking the current one and replacing with this one Okay Um so you'd either
get the new levy or and and that's a good good point also because we're going to have to revoke and there's going to be a lot of language in the question anyway because we have to revoke our current one and replace it And I don't know what the second question would look like but I'm
guessing it would be another revoke type language which would get very confusing for people Also I mean we can talk to Jeff at Ellers about that to see what that would look like but they'll probably end up recommending just keeping with one question like Josh said
Can you remind me we already board approved one reup on what we're doing right so we we're out of we can't do that anymore We're out of reups So to my understanding of how that works that's what school districts are understanding So then it goes back to what the number
is we asked for and how important the increase would be Could you do it could you increase it by $1 and then add inflation you know go to the community and ask you know cuz then it's a different
It's not the same I mean I know that's silly but Well it's a way of getting out of some dollars you get the $100 if you get the inflationary piece on I know that doesn't help us in this situation but I mean you're looking at then
yeah what number $50,000 if that if not less Yeah it would depend on the year and what the inflation would be on on that rate but you're talking a dollar to the current $500 So it's 501 plus inflation Yeah So you know 2% on the 500
right Good What happens is I mean had it been on the initial levy 20 years ago it's a much different looking $500 per people that were right now Do we want to look at or we looking at doing another survey or we kind of have
their information we kind of have the information from the last one I don't know what and I'm not clearly it didn't benefit us So well if you're going to do a survey it would have to be done in a short amount of time here Yeah Um and
you did a survey in March Mhm Of last year prior to November and it changed 10% Yeah You know from 57 down to 47 passing over six months Now granted there was a lot of things going
on during that six months um do you do it on a survey and then something else changes between now and the next six months you know right it's hard to say It really truly is Unless the question was very unless our
questions on our survey were drastically different that we're asking Yeah I'd rather save the money or use the money in a different way of some sort I don't know what it looks like yet but it seems like that would be better I just cuz I agree I think those survey
results were a little bit misleading isn't the right word but maybe it was easier for people or maybe the people that actually submitted the surveys wasn't a right correct pool of voters in comparison with our pool of actual voters
I think good sound you need to ask for what we need And again it's not a want Mhm It we need to say what we need and we need to say it plainly what we need and why And I
mean have the voters understand that If they turn us down they turn us down And quite honestly if they turn us down again I think we're done Is there a better time to do it than a prime election as far as their past history of it being
approved any levies or bonds um for levies uh levies generally take place on the November date You because if they don't then the school district has to mail it out I think what you were asking
is if it was a presidential election Oh yeah Um there's some thoughts to the that school elections are not as successful on presidential elections for sure Okay
Um but if you go off cycle sometimes it's better I don't know why But what what is our cost difference like you said 10 to 15,000 Is there a significant cost difference going off cycle versus
not really that I can think of You know having to because it's just us then hiring voter staff and stuff Correct Mhm The cost is maybe the uh workload in our office and now when FTS come in it'll come to our office and so we're again
Lori will be the more expert on that she runs election some things have changed on uh ballot sites but um when we're writing the election then we'd be responsible for doing some of those things Uh the last one we did um the absentes we were doing that pretty
constantly throughout uh just because it's it's a lot more popular option I think for people to do an absentee Um but that's neither here nor there We we got to run we need in order for the health of the district But if we didn't do the survey would because they're about the same right the survey cost in
the to run an election wasn't it about survey was survey is pretty cheap actually Just the mailing Oh of it So when do you think we when do we have to have an exact number by
the latest July mhm Um and there may be a resolution There's I'd have to look at the timelines again but there was some resolutions that were offset that we have to meet that we may have to do in June And then I think the final one has
to be due in July And just remember everyone that we're moving into our only one meeting a month cycle So um does the finance committee already have an idea what they'll need to cut for the following year already or not yet no Okay Um one of the things honored
that we need to talk about is probably setting up a finance committee We need to start discussing some of these items more in depth and a route and get input from the people on the finance committee And so if that's the route that you guys want to do we can we can certainly set
that up And then what information do we need to bring to the finance committee i'm sure tax impact would probably be one of them I'm guessing and then some high level budgetary numbers which we can just look back at our past cuts Yeah You know as far as where this is headed
at is there a percentage of voters that we need obviously majority but with it not being a prime election presidential election or is there a certain minimum number we need to show up i'm just thinking if people just schools out going again for another election and they don't want to come to the ballots
we may only get a 100 respondents I need the same majority of that 100 Yeah So there's no government Okay Yeah There's no stipulation what you base number of votes that need to happen I know when we when we tried to do some of our like
outreach stuff like when we opened up the school here to have like here's a meeting if you have questions come in here's a presentation and they weren't terribly well attended obviously right last time Um but I wonder if we rephrase that or reward that in some type of
inviting manner Let's have a community conversation Like conversation needs to be had Guys need to be educated This like this I I I don't know how that could be looked at differently or phrased differently or to entice more people to come in to have that type of
conversation especially the people who were voting no for it previously Yeah I know there was outreach I wasn't obviously involved in it but I saw and listened to what you guys had to say in the outreach groups But if we can get these numbers in sooner right that may
give us more talking points and having the information to speak to whether we go and have a booth at a summer camp just for parents to come and ask us questions And I it's demanding for us but we go and volunteer an hour of time during a camp for parents to come in And
I could see that being potentially more beneficial We stop by and ask one or two questions versus having like another dedicated trip to come in Yeah I like that idea It's just that Most of those are voting yes or we need to reach this population that is has got
no ask I love the idea Please help us I mean it's not just us We need the community obviously to help I think at this point we need to ask for that was where I was I was surprised right to see how much work you guys put into it But I didn't hear from anyone else in the community like hey what are you voting
are you do are you informed enough to know oh that's some things that are just coming through my head now is maybe we could look at doing something during the fair like on the parade Mhm Doing something like that If you guys have made a decision to go out right you
have to have information ready to go for that I mean we'll only do it if you ride on the float though Me or him uncle Sam hat on We'll have you in the duct tape down at the fable one on the way a duct tape because
I know I can get one No I I think we're going to have to reach out a lot more than last time So we'll have to go find these people uh for presentations or the Thursday funfest comes to mind or something you
know a couple of us sit there and just sports camps this summer that go on right what's stopping us from And I think too like Luke said though like quite often these people that go to these things these are the people that vote yes That's the problem is it's
trying to find it's it's trying to get to these other groups that voted no and how what what do we go to to find them you can see that data online the voter demographic of where the votes were no and yes by township by township By township but I mean some of them were heavy-handed right i can speak to where
I'm at Some more heavy-handed yes and next one over is no Right So stop I mean that's where we put our time to think there's only one township that pastor right I think Yep So that's where the door knocking can start And I don't I don't think it just needs to fall to us
We're six individuals We got to employ the community to volunteer right just as we do with all of our sports Well and I think I think the educating that will do on I think you got to be a little careful on crossing that line of voting yes versus
telling the message Correct Informing versus informing right i think it's moreforming Yeah Yeah So we got to be a little careful with that Educating Yes Informing I think the biggest one is explaining what the dollar if we can have the numbers But also there is some
questions we fielded on the CPI right the inflationary is they they thought a lot of it was is it going to be that volatile right or is it going to be on a month-to-month quarter to quarter basis general questions I we're well informed of but as a community they might not have any idea or they're just subjected
to it facility committee get that fired up mean finance finance Thank you Just don't talk about facilities Yes With finance included Nope Finance committee
will get a a date set up with the the members of that here next couple weeks or so And then um yeah I'd say definitely get one in here So hopefully there's something to bring back to the next meeting or at least some information of where we're at and then if we need to have another finance
committee meeting we can certainly do that Maybe finalized in June um or at least have some conversation again in Maine as a as a board here Do we have some schools um in the area that went out last fall that
passed they're like in our area like in our There's one in western I know it's a different state but some in western edge Wisconsin I mean farfetched but maybe maybe chatting with those guys like hey what worked for you guys what do you feel like was wellreceived or what do you think people were like this was
really good this you know what did you hear people in your community say that this helped me my vote just off the top of my head I think it was Lewon passed a bond and they're operating but they had failed it like two or three times before but I got to
double check that with Gwen Um no there's a lot of schools especially in outstate failed I I know I know Especially they're operating Um so if there's any there's other schools in the area that are going out good news is talking about it that they're going out
for an operating the first time Mhm And so it's we're not the only one that's going to for sure I'm just wondering if there's anything different that we haven't done yet or how we haven't phrased something differently of some other schools like this was really successful for us you know any any a new
idea Was the was in city taxes just raised as well did I do something are we going to be an uphill i'm not I don't see it So I thought there was something in town where tax Okay I mean I live in town My taxes have
historically gone up Utilities but I guess I can't speak to if it's property values or utilities went up May or April 1st Yeah% maybe a significant that was a pretty that was part of that whole class action
suit that we're in right now Yeah So I think it was more we can be informed on these types of Yeah for sure uphill All right We'll get a finance committee meeting scheduled and bring some
information to that All right We'll move on toformational items uh you see on there what we have coming up at uh future meetings If any of you ever has anything that you would like added to the next
meeting contact uh Jeff or Lori and we will get it on there So else uh yeah don't have anything else I would look for a motion to adjurnn I'll make motion Jyn on the motion second Luke on the
second Any other discussion we survived the first round of the storm