Good evening everyone. Today is November 18th, 2025. We are at the city of Cape Canaveral regular city council meeting at the city hall council chambers located at 100 Pulk Avenue in the city of Cape Canaveral. I call this meeting
to order. And with that, Mayor Pro Tim Kellum, would you please lead us in the pledge? I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Our city clerk, please call the role for the outgoing city council. Thank you. >> Council member Davis >> here.
>> Council member Jackson >> here. >> Mayor Prom Kellum >> here. >> Mayor Morrison >> here. >> And council member Willis >> here. >> Thank you all for being here and everyone from the community who is a
part of this. Um, this is obviously a special day and council, if unless there's, you know, concern here. I'd like to make a slight change. Uh, we just finished up item number three, the roll call of the outgoing council. If we
could just go ahead and, uh, go to 6.1 first and 6.2 for our two council members today. met with the city manager and connected with the city clerk unless that's an issue like to proceed.
Okay. So, tonight we recognize first council member Kim Davis as she concludes four years of dedicated service to the city of Cape Canaveral. I have respected her commitment to serve in the elected position and her willingness to stand up
for what she believed was best for our community. a retired deputy. She first served our city in the early 80s and later stepped up once again, this time as a member of our city council. That dedication to public service is
something we should all appreciate. Over the years, even through some differences, we all we found meaningful common ground. We stood together on recent important votes that strengthened the future of Cape Canaveral under new
leadership. and we jointly affirmed the recent proclamation that reflected that we all value preserving what makes our city special. Council member Davis, thank you for your service and your involvement in local city government. I wish you the best in all that lies ahead.
>> Thank you. We've got u obviously council we've got something we want to give you from the city of Cape Canaveral honored to give but council members if there's any statements. Council member Davis you have the final word before we leave but uh mayor prum Kellum or council member
Jackson Willis. >> No I just want to say thank you Kim for your devoted service. It's It's been a long rough road for you and uh you stuck in there and hung in there. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> And I would like to say thank you for
your service to the community um through all that we've all been through and the support for them. >> Thank you. just wanted to thank you for your willingness to step forward and to lead
and to serve our cities better because of the work you've done and I wish you all the best in future endeavors. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> But I will have to relay one thing. On our first election night, we were
obviously on opposite sides of the street and Kim came over as I was setting up my tent and proceeded to lambast me for where I was setting up my tent. But later on, you came back and
apologized. We may not have started out as friends, but we are now. Thank you. >> Yes. Thank you. Council member Davis, >> I'm just going to make it short and say that I I it was an honor to see the SE
city that served the city and um I support all the people that are here and to the staff, the old staff and the new staff. Thank you for always being with me and backing me and even when I was sick, you were there. So, thank you.
Okay. And this time I believe we have something from the city. We can go up front and council. Uh if we want to take a photo together as a council, we can do that. >> Yes, please. Thank you. So at this time we want to
also recognize Mayor Pro Tim Mickey Kellum as she turns out after six years of exceptional service to the city of Cape Canaveral. Mickey has been a steadfast voice of the people. Her willingness to ask tough questions, listen closely to residents, and fight
for accountability has shaped the direction of our city in lasting ways. She is widely known for her deep commitment to our veterans. From spearheading the redevelopment of Veterans Memorial Park to initiating the Veterans Day parade and helping honor
the 50th anniversary of the Vietnam War, to name a few. Yet, her contributions reach far beyond these efforts. Throughout her service, her guiding philosophy has been simple and powerful. Take care of what we have. That spirit
of stewardship has left an imprint on every decision we've made together. Mayor Pro Tim Kellum, my neighbor and friend, thank you. I wish you the very best as you begin your next chapter. Thank you. Council,
I'll start. Yay, I get to be friends with Mickey again. Those sunshine laws. Um, thank you so much for everything you've done for our city. um you have been a steward for um
going in and making sure that things are maintained and that we have things under control. You've given back so much to this community over the years and even prior to even being on council. You've always stood by this community and stood
by the people here. So, all of your efforts are so appreciated and we wish you much success with what you're going to do next, which will be more VFW stuff, I'm sure. So, the veterans win in this case.
>> Thank you. >> Hey, Mickey. I just want to say I'm happy that I met you and we we've went through a lot together and I wish you the best whatever you're doing after this. So, we'll be friends. Thank you.
I met you the first time a uh candidate get to know you that I hosted for the three opponents that you faced and I was impressed with you in that uh forum and uh enjoyed hosting you that then and
voting for you afterwards. But uh this job requires patience, dedication, and willingness to listen. And you exemplify all of those. And uh in light of
uh you're leaving council, maybe we can get back to cooking breakfast on Sunday at the BFW. So since sunshine law won't matter. So there you go. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mayor P. Tim Kellum. Uh, yes. I just had to write this down
so I can remember. Um, Mayor Wes, my fellow council members, residents, and staff members, this has been an amazing six-year journey in my life. I've learned a lot. I've probably asked a lot of dumb questions, but I've always
regarded my duty to the residents as a very serious obligation. Living here for over 35 years, this little town means a great deal to me and we have a long come a long way. I think we're at the point where we need to
decide which path we want to take which will be decided by this new council. Through my seven years of service here in the city as a council person and board member, I have endured a lot of changes in my personal life. Because of
this, I'm looking forward to a little peace and quiet. I'm raising my incredible granddaughter, Cassidy, and looking forward, if that's possible, with a 15year-old, some downtime.
But I will show up again in public participation, maybe on a board in the city. After everything, my heart is in this city. To the residents, reach out to your council members. You are their
constituents. For the council and staff, I leave you with this. Wrap your arms around our little city. Take care of her. Take care of our trees and our families. Sorry.
our historic little school and our small local businesses, especially our parks and beaches, which are irreplaceable, beautiful, and one of our greatest assets. Take care of what we have. Look for
other ways besides taxpayers for sources of revenue. Just embrace Cape Canaveral for the tiny little city on the hill, as they say, that is so uniquely different from what's north and south of us. Finally,
residents, thank you for your trust in me. It's been an honor to serve my neighbors and friends. Thank you very much, and I'll see you around town. Thank you. At this time, council, if we want to go down front, we can take another photo
and give the Okay. So, thank you again. This time we have the new council member oath of office for Mr. Thomas Tom Shoryak. Tom, if you are here, you can come to the forward and our city attorney will
meet you down front. It's almost there. take some photos at this time. Uh, Mr. Council member Shyak would like to take any photos with his friends and family and we will take a short recess uh after this and uh
reconvene shortly. So embarrassing. I had somebody take a picture. Yes, take a h showing 618. Let's try to do a very
quick, no more than five minute recess here. Give people who want a chance to transition out and our city clerk and team to change name plates. So, let's reconvene here um 6:22 p.m. if we can. Thank you.
I call the meeting back to order. Thank you for your patience there. Uh at this time, city clerk, please call the role for the new council. >> Council member Jackson, >> here. Mayor Morrison >> here,
>> Council Member Toriak >> here, >> and Council Member Willis >> here. >> Thank you for uh being here. I look forward to working together. And Council Member Shyak, if you like to say any words, the floor is yours. >> I'd like to say I'm honored to serve the
city of Cape Canaveral, our residents, and >> Oh, okay. It's on. This thing on. Okay. Thank you. look forward to uh serving our city and helping to uh make it better and working with our fine council members here and mayor and we'll work
together and go ahead and move forward our city. Thank you folks. >> Thank you. So at this time we are on item now back in order. The agenda flows. Thank you for your flexibility and and making some moves around there. We are on item number seven which is the election of
the mayor pro Tim. Just want to touch base with our city attorney who's helped us through the years improve this. I'm comfortable with it, but I didn't see any I think last year it similar if not identical to the process we did. If there's anything you need to cover
um >> annually the city council um elects one of its own to be the the mayor prom. In the past we've um gone to ballots. I would pass those down and uh ask you
that to select one of the three names. Obviously, the mayor can't be mayor prom because he's the mayor. So, um there are three of you currently on the council. If if you could uh select one, pass them down and majority majority um vote um
would become the the mayor promp. So, it's pretty straightforward. And the clerk's office prepared the ballot, so they all should be in order. >> Thank you. I'll take one. Pass it down. >> Give me that bag.
>> You have See the top. >> Oh. Oh, >> they have You put names on them. Oh, >> they have designated ballots and he was going to fill out someone else's inadvertently. So, I just stopped that.
Sorry. Mhm. >> Sorry, I was deter figuring that out myself. >> Here's the extra. >> The extra. Is there an extra? >> Yeah, we can get >> No, you can pass it down. Council member
>> I think one more Based on the ballots received, um we got a majority uh for Miss Jackson to become the next mayor prom. I would ask that uh the city council um adopt a motion to that regard
>> to appoint. >> Yeah. To approve the to approve the ballots. >> Okay. Uh looking for a motion to approve the ballots to select council member Jackson as mayor
pro Tim. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Second. Yeah. Okay. >> Who second? >> Second. >> Got a motion by Council Member Jackson, a second by Council Member Shoryak. Uh any
discussion? My own thing is assuming you're you are willing to serve in that capacity. >> Yes, I am willing to serve in that capacity. >> That's all I have. Is there any further discussion? >> Seeing none, city clerk.
>> Mayor Prom Jackson four. >> Mayor Morrison >> four. >> Council member Shiaak >> four. >> And council member Willis >> four. >> All right. Congratulations, Mayor Pro Tim Co or um excuse new day.
That's rolled off my tongue too many times. Mayor Pro Tim Jackson, um if you would like to take the seat and council wanted to sit sit down or stay where you're seated, I think it's up to you, but Council,
as we're getting settled in and transitioning, we are going to move to the approval of agenda as written or with amendments. I do not have any
changes that I I think we're good there. >> Mayor Morrison. >> Yes. >> Item number 93. >> Oh. >> Um >> that's right. Okay. So, I spoke with the city manager. I think u we're going to take really no action for item 9.3,
which was an applicant interview. So, um, when we get to that item, we don't we don't have any business because I think Mr. Bell is is not here today. So, I don't think we need to remove it from
the agenda. City attorney, if if we just once we get to that, it's going to stay in the same order and >> absolutely. >> Okay. So that's one change item 9.3 um like to move to the next council meeting
and that would also impact the resolution. Um, why can't I find the resolution? Uh, >> 12. >> There it is. So, that would uh 12.4 as well. So, 9.2. Thank you, city attorney.
And 12.4 are changes >> we will uh handle at the next council meeting. Are there any other changes, council? And uh council member Shoryak, this is something new we implemented. You know, sometimes the day of the meeting things
change. Sometimes we want to add on things. So this time if there's an order change, removing something, uh we we will vote on the the agenda as written or as amended. So, okay, I'll go ahead and uh make the
motion uh that we approve the agenda as amended by removing items 9 3 and 12.4. >> I'll second. >> Got a motion by Mayor Morrison, second
by Council Member Willis. Any further discussion? Seeing none, city clerk, >> Mayor Prom Jackson, four, >> Mayor Morrison, >> four, >> council member Shoryak, >> four, >> and council member Willis,
>> four. >> Thank you. >> At this time, uh, we are at, uh, the presentations and interviews portion of the meeting, item nine. Yes, Council Member Willis. >> Uh, pardon me a second. I need to collect some things that, uh, Council
Member Jackson picked up by mistake. I'm sorry this happened there too. >> I think this is this is your I'm sorry. >> I think the pen was intentional. >> The pin is necessary. That's one you
don't want to watch. >> Now I have everyone watching. >> So at this time uh our first presentation is a special one. I've got a proclamation here. Uh I'm going to go ahead and read that here and uh come
down front. This is an official proclamation of the city of Cape Canaveral, Florida, honoring Commander Byron Kek. Whereas Commander Byron Kek, a lifelong Bvard County resident, born and raised
in Melbourne, Florida, attended Ogali High School, graduated from Bvard Community College with a Bachelor of Arts degree, holds a Bachelor of Science degree in criminal justice from the University of Central Florida, and graduated from the United States Coast
Guard Reserves, where he served for more than 21 years. retired as chief petty officer where he holds a master captain's license. And whereas Commander Kek began his law enforcement career in 1995 with the Sarasota County Sheriff's
Office, worked in 1996 for the Bvard County Sheriff's Office as a patrol deputy and having been promoted through the ranks. He was assigned as precinct commander to Port Canaveral and the city of Cape Canaveral on October 16th, 2021,
leading both law enforcement and seapport security. And whereas Commander Kek is a member of the United States Coast Guard Area Maritime Security Committee and serves on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Central Florida Regional Domestic Security Task
Force Maritime Subcommittee. And whereas throughout his long and industrious career, Commander Kek received one merit bar, two commendable service bars, and numerous other awards, commendations, and letters of appreciation for his
dedicated service to the community. And whereas Commander Kek's commitment to service extends well beyond his professional duties, where he is well respected amongst his colleagues and command staff, he is an avid and active participant working closely with the
community with numerous public outreach events such as coffee with a cop. And he always engaged with the city officials and local organizations to foster safety, trust, and collaboration where his accessible, approachable, and
accountable demeanor, working countless hours beyond a normal schedule ensured that the community needs met. And whereas Commander Kek is scheduled to retire from active service with the Bvard County Sheriff's Office on November 21st, 2025. Now therefore, I,
Wes Morrison, mayor of the city of Cape Canaveral, Bvard County, Florida, do hereby recognize and extend heartfelt gratitude to Byron Kek for his selfless service where he exemplifies the highest standards of public service, integrity,
and community partnership qualities that continue to make a lasting impact on both the sheriff's office and the citizens he serves. And we wish him well in the next chapter of his life. signed and sealed this 18th day of November, 2025. Commander Kek, if you'd like to
come forward, we'd love to present you. Well, I just like to say thank you to everybody out my career. Um, I had nothing but support from from all the the council, the mayor, the city staff, um, uh, the residents here. Uh, so I I've I've
always felt part of of the city being like I was a city employee and and I just have nothing but good things to say. So it's a great team out here. Um, I've got a great team that that works for me. Um, that's that's kind of they're the ones that do the job. I'm just the figurehead up here, you know, that gets the attention sometimes, but u
but I'm very been very blessed to have such a such a good crew to work with. Um, Brian Neil, uh, currently major, soon to be commander, is going to be taking my place. um very well-rounded, has served in a lot of lot of different command capacities throughout the agency, and I know he'll do a great job.
And so, I just wanted to say thank you again to everybody, and thank you for all the support that that you've given me and uh and the men and women that I work for. So, thank you. >> Thank you. At this time, our deputy fire chief is here for item 9.2, which is a
commendable service award from the city of Cape Canaveral Volunteer Fire Department to Mr. Derek Buckner. Come on up, Derek. Okay. So, on October 13th, 2025, citizen Derek Buckner observed a swimmer in
distress and took immediate action to render aid, demonstrating quick judgment and disregard to his own safety. Mr. Buckner entered the aggressive waters and successfully assisted the individual prior to the arrival of Canaveral Fire Rescue personnel. Canaveral Fire Rescue wants to recognize your outstanding act
of kindness and quick response at assisting the fellow citizen in need. Your actions reflect courage, compassion, and a true spirit of community service. That day when that occurred, I was checking the mail and I said, "Hey honey," talking to my wife, "I'm going
to go check the mail." and um I heard sirens go off and I said, "Well, something headed down to the beach and actually got to observe uh our fire department's responsiveness and the efforts of Derek to make that happen." So, that's one of those rare
moments where we don't see the day-to-day and the work and the grind that our community goes through. And so, uh thank you for our entire volunteer fire department. And I'd like to see we can do more of that. That's one of the first ones, the first one I've ever
done, and I think it is a a real special thing. So, we appreciate you, Derek, and all that you do to help keep our community safe as a citizen. So, thank you. So, with that, I
am on to let's see here. We have uh pulled item number n that completed 9.2. We have uh pulled item 9.3 which takes us to item 9.4 which is a new city staff introduction.
Mr. City Manager. Well, >> thank you mayor. And we do have a new part-time recreation leader. His name is Jim Moran. Unfortunately, Mr. Moran could not be here this evening, but just to give a little background on Mr. Moran. He's a retired attorney from New Jersey. He worked in the parks and wreck
field when he was there before moving to Florida. and he is a business owner in uh Coco Village. So, we're looking forward to having him on our team. >> Thank you. Welcome to the team, Mr. Moran. Okay. At this time, item 10, we are at
public participation. If you do intend to speak today, we do ask that you please fill out a card. I've got one up here now. Mr. John Benton, please come forward. Okay, we're here because of my code reduction hearing. You you guys owe owe
me for 10 years. I told you the first year I wasn't going to stop coming until you gave it to me. Well, now I got a few other things. You fired the city manager because he
erased one of the email. Email. Well, how about it, Mr. Mayor? I sent you an email. I'm going to request it. One of those people screaming at the city that I was living in my warehouse. I sent it to you and you sent Detective
Mulligan to my house. Tell them what Tell the city what was in there. It was during George Floyd. He was calling all the people out there monkeys and apes using the n-word in that text message. And I sent it to you. It's disgusting.
And you didn't do anything about it because he had a business in this town for 30 years. And his mother goes to the church down the Catholic church down in Cocoa Beach. His name is James Sable. When that deputy came to my house, there
better be a police report. And you sent him I never called you on the phone. I didn't I never called you. I used the email and I'm going to make a request to it, too. Until this happened in last year, I haven't seen anybody here with color in
the 20 years I've lived here of color. Not one. And next, Mayor Randles that used to be here, he's coming in here saying he's going to donate his retirement to Cape Canaveral. Well, he's just trying to get votes to get back onto the board. Why
don't you take, Mr. Randles, why don't you take that money and send it to Globe, Arizona? They had a flood there. People died in 200 20 December. I was there and I gave him $1,000. I'm sitting there with the cop.
He gives me a I was only there for two months. Stayed in a flea bag motel. I left a week and I came I left after two months. I came back to do that because I missed the town so bad. All right. Now, next thing is I need a lawyer. You'd think a lawyer would take
my case to shut it down. Shut it down so I won't come in here and call this lawyer over here to his face that he's a racist Jew. >> Hey. Hey. We're not going to be boisterous or slanderous. Okay. It's okay. He's a racist. You have a microphone. You don't need to yell. Thank you.
>> And uh well, you let people yell at me from here three months ago. Somebody I'm Jew. I turned around. I don't care. I don't care if you're a Jew or not. So Randle, send that money there. Maybe I'll back off.
And one more thing. I went to the council meeting down there at Melbourne Beach when they censored the mayor for calling one of the other board members an idiot. Well, that was just to get my foot in the front door. So, I go down there and ask Randy Fine and tell him what
happened here and ask him if he could help me. And if he doesn't, I'll continue to go to those meetings. >> Thank you. >> And you guys are a bunch of idiots. If anyone else intended to speak, uh, please come forward if you don't mind. And, uh, we do ask that you fill out a card at some point before you leave
today. You've got it. Great. Thank you. Welcome. >> One moment. Okay, put that there. One second. >> I don't know if that was an assumption that he made, but all right. Uh, let's hope this goes a
little bit better than that. Um, I'm Luke. Uh, I'm running for poet laurate and I was just wondering if you guys have any questions you'd like to know about the position I intend on filling and yeah, I'd love to say a bit about
myself. >> Luke, thank you so much for for introducing yourself. I think uh we do have an agenda item uh for the poet laurette coming up and
if you are around where is that council >> consent agenda >> it's in the consent agenda and so um when we get to that item I think >> 12.3 >> we 12 12.3 >> we can pull it and and discuss any
questions but greatly appreciate your willingness to come forward I'll I'll yield my time and I'll come back then. All right. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> I'll be right back. >> Yes, sir. >> I believe that's it for cards. I don't have any others. And seeing none, we'll
go ahead and close public participation. Brings us to managers matters item number 11. We've got five here. City manager, the floor is yours. >> Thank you, mayor, and good evening. uh council. Uh the first item for uh city managers matters is a draft evaluation.
Uh council would recall that per my contract um to be evaluated in 6 months and again annually after that and part of the contract u entails an evaluation a 360 degree performance evaluation which is on the screen. This is a draft.
I just wanted to get it to all the council members in advance of that process which will not occur until February. And my goal is to get you to take a look at it if you have any comments, any changes, any
modifications, just to get it back to us. I'm working with our HR director, Natalie Watkins, on uh creating this. And the goal is to have a final product for you prior to that evaluation in February. So, it's just something you can take your time with over the coming
months and we just look forward to hearing back from you on that. We have a personnel update. We are still looking for a city engineer. We've interviewed multiple candidates to date and we have another viable candidate possibly in the hopper. Uh we're having some discussions with them about
possibly coming in for an interview. So, hopefully we'll be able to do that. And we are looking for a utilities mechanic out at our public works facility. So, those are our only two openings at this time. We have a facilities update. You probably have heard by now and seen some
social media, but our tennis courts are done and uh we we're very proud of how they look out there. We've received a lot of compliments from them. If you haven't gone out there to see them yet, you know, maybe you can in the next couple of days. Um we also um have an
update on the concession stand. This has been a work in progress as you know. Uh the Muriel Muriel Muriel, it's always a tough one, has uh been replaced uh on this one wall side of the of the building and we're going to be doing
some final painting upstairs on the floor and the AC unit late this week or early next week should be connected and operational and that should finalize the concession stand. Uh the next item for update is the splash pad. We're very
excited to say that if everything goes as planned, we will be opening the splash pad before the month of November is over. We have an electrician who needs to hook up our motors. They'll be coming out tomorrow for that. The equipment installers are then going to come and they're going to do some test
runs on the equipment to make sure everything's fine. And once that's done, we'll be reaching out to the Department of Health uh to come and do its final inspection. And again, we're looking to have this open by the end of this month. Next is the Nancy Hansen uh project.
You've probably seen that our roof is done and we are now focusing on the interior. We've engaged an engineer for this process and we're going to be going over some design changes, uh some electrical work, and we need to uh take care of the stucco and the painting.
That's actually going to be the first order business and we anticipate that happening on December 5th. And finally, uh the playground equipment for S Piper Park has been ordered and we don't know when we'll take delivery of that. A lot of that is being custom made
uh for the city. So, uh but we'll keep the council posted on that. We know that a lot of folks have been anxious to see that new equipment out there. So, we're excited about that. Item 114 is the flash flood response guide. This is something that we put out
here for council to review. This is also a draft document. We're taking any input that any council members may have. We've already received some input and we'd like uh you know to engage you all to see if you have any more input to give. Uh we're definitely looking to uh align
it closer to some FEMA uh specifications that we will be reviewing in conjunction with our plans. And um this is one of those um you know flash flood we we can't always anticipate or prepare for that. And this is where we rely on our
sheriff's office partners to help us with barricades and whatnot to block off roadways that are prone to flooding so we can prevent vehicles traveling and causing wake away uh that could damage private property. And on that note, just to um remind council if you didn't if
you already heard or if you don't know, it is now a violation of state law. If you drive through a flooded roadway, create a week that floods private property. So, uh we'll hopefully engage sheriff's office on getting out there to help enforce that as well. I know that
can make would make a lot of citizens happy. Uh the final item is the uh state of the city. This is something that um all most of you are familiar with um maybe all of you and it's a project that happens every year. Molly and her crew
are working on this and we have um you know the itinerary or the schedule if you will posted for you the first review edits deadlines in January 26th um final review by Wednesday February 11th insert
the audit data and so forth February 20th and publish uh before Monday March 16th which is our typical timeline and uh we want to offer to all council members the opportunity to get a new photo taken if you would like. We will
engage a photographer for their services and we will set it up for the December council meeting uh to do that in conjunction or right before however we work out those details. We'll keep council posted and of course if uh we don't have a new member installed by
then, we can extend that into the next month because publication isn't until March. So we have time to get all those pictures taken. And that re concludes my matters unless any of you have any questions. >> Council, any questions for our city
manager? >> That I think is working really well. That's something uh city manager proposed I think at the very first meeting a few months back and I appreciate you doing that to identify those is uh you know priority
things that that are in the community. My I just have a comment on the deadlines for the last state of the city. Uh that is very helpful. Um I've always been the slowest one. City staff works really fast and gets it done and it's high quality. And so my goal for
accountability this year is to be done ahead of schedule. And uh I just thank our city staff in the past who's been very patient with me and uh this this will be really helpful to guide me along the way. So, thank you. >> You're welcome,
>> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, Council Member Jackson. >> Um, I really wanted to to speak to the city of Cape Canaveral flash flood emergency guide because I had taken that uh course for disaster preparedness in
June of 2024 and this is an excellent job on this. So for um the sustainability and resiliency team that worked on this um and for all of the people that have contributed into
this because I know that um just having the outline of what staff does and what who to engage in what process and that kind of thing is so helpful for having a formal response plan of our own in the
city outside of Bvard. ard we have our our interlocal agreement with uh Bvard County in case of a disaster. So we always have that and that's what we've um worked with in most cases from what I understood. But this was a gap that is a
huge piece uh brought into um our city as far as having this in writing so that we all understand that process. So, I wanted to thank you and thank the staff for working on this and getting this out. >> Thank you.
>> Any other comments, council? >> Okay, that is great. We are now on to the consent agenda item number 12. Uh if there's uh we consent is the opportunity to approve 12.1
through 12.4. I think we've already referenced the uh 12.3 which is um one that I think we I would like to pull >> 12.4 on
>> in 12 agenda >> 12.4 we've already removed >> the TPO. Okay. >> Yeah. So I we we really have um 12.1 12.2 2
and uh I'll pull 12.3. So if there's a desire to pass 12.1 and 12.2, >> mayor, if I may, 123 should be the poet laurate, I believe. >> Yes. Um I think >> 124 would be um No.
>> Yeah, 124 would be the one you're you're pulling. >> Yes. So I think we've already taken action. >> Yes. I think as far as consent um I will say just on the schedule
if you have not le let's do this I I would like to actually pull 12.2 and 12.3 and 12.2 to go very quick from my side. Um, I got something I want to say. So, thank you. It really just leaves us
with a no benefit of a consent. And so, I think we could approve them one at a time. >> Make make a motion to approve the 12.1 approval of minutes. >> I'll second that motion. Got a motion by
council member Willis and a second by mayor prom Jackson to approve item 12.1. Any further discussion? City clerk. Um sorry
mayor prom Jackson >> four. >> Mayor Morrison. >> This is hard to get used to. Mayor Morrison, >> four. >> Council member Shiaak, >> four.
>> And Council Member Willis, >> four. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Item 12.1 passes 40. And we are now on to item 12.2. I just want to emphasize on this one, the reason I wanted to briefly pull it is the
schedule count. Are are we okay with this? and council member Shoryak, we approve our schedule really at the beginning of the year and we've identified the holidays, but it um
those bolded dates for our monthly meetings. Just make sure we take a look at those before approving this and that we're okay. And then the the the non-bolded dates are reserved for if you know we we need to move a
meeting or have another one. We're we're trying to keep our schedules clear around these dates. Is that se I don't know how September 3rd falls um next year
and compared to Labor Day. It it usually would be a Wednesday >> at that date >> for the first budget hearing. >> Yeah. >> Oh, please. >> Yeah. What happens sometimes is obviously our budget hearings our budget
hearings can't conflict with the county or schools and um what's happening this year is just the way the calendar falls it's kind of odd because when September uh 2nd I believe is the Tuesday but by
state rules whatever the budget rules you can't start that cycle with a a budget hearing until at least September 3rd. So, uh, city clerk's office has made that adjustment. Uh, and, um, so that puts us on a, uh, Wednesday,
um, if my memory serves me right. Right. And that, so that keeps us in comp, it's keeps it on a Wednesday. So that keeps us in compliance. >> Okay. >> Oh, the Wednesday for the, uh, meeting, >> is it? >> September se September 3rd,
>> right? So, okay. We we just can't do it the same time as the county. Okay. Okay, we're good then. Um so that's why you can't have a meeting prior to September 3rd. So it's going to fall on Yeah, I can't I my screen's not up so I
can't see it. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. >> Thank you. >> So that keeps us in compliance. And if you recall in previous years, if something ever changed with the county or the school, whatever, in June, we come back to you and say, "Hey, there was a change. We're going to have to
adjust the schedule." Well, that may not happen this year, but if it does, that's when we usually do it in June. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Yeah. September 3rd, I got is a Thursday. >> Okay. It's a Thursday. Yeah. >> We're day off, but that's okay. I think uh that makes sense
and I appreciate the agenda cut offs going in there as dates as well. So just that first meeting if we want something on the January 20th agenda that January 7th is the day we we need to have those submitted and then it'll be posted. It's
pretty much two weeks prior. So >> it's good. >> That's um all good. I'm good with this schedule. Council member or Mayor Pat Jackson, was there anything else? No, I just wanted to make sure, you know, I wasn't sure how Labor Day fell, so I was trying.
>> It is. It turn it it it happens. It the the September month happens in a different time, >> right? >> So, I'm good with it. >> Now, he's got that little twist. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Looking for a motion to adopt.
>> Make a motion to adopt um calendar item 12.2. Yep. Second. >> Got a motion by Council Member Willis, a second by Council Member Shorette. Any further discussion? >> City clerk.
>> Four. >> Four. >> Four. >> Four. >> Item 12.2 passes 40. Which now brings us to item uh 12.3
which is a resolution uh 202520 for the city of Cape Canaveral honorary poet laurette appointment Mr. Luke as a le heron. Thank you so much for coming forward. That might need to be my first uh phonetics question there on
pronunciation but u if if needed we'll make sure to to let you know. Council um Any questions for the candidate? >> I have some questions for him. >> They wouldn't mind going to the
>> Yes, please come forward. Thank you. >> Hi, Luke. Welcome. >> Um, thank you for your interest in this. Um, okay. What have you done to develop a relationship with editors and
journalists with the New York Times? >> So, when I was spending time in Minnesota, when I was living there for a little bit, I went to a camp called uh storytelling and it was by a school sponsored by a school called the
University of St. Thomas and they had many speakers there, guest speakers from places like Minost, which is basically New York Post but for Minnesota. And then also they had speakers from the New York Times. So I got to learn a bunch of new perspectives and different techniques of writing, whether it's
poetic or free form um and expand on those. Yeah. >> Okay. So, but um specifically with the New York Times, >> Yes, ma'am. you said you have in your uh bio that you've developed relationship with
editors and journalists there >> with their so what was that through that >> actually not only that um sorry did I interrupt you >> um it wasn't only through that I on LinkedIn I have about 500 connections
and one of the things I did before I started making connections with uh editors at the New York Times is I would send in a connection invite to pretty much every single one at the New York Times and then I would expand on questions and kind of developing
relationships on mentorship based on mentorship and there's a couple people I've done that with including a man by the name of Ernesto Lono. Uh he's been very helpful to me in my writing journey. >> Okay. So, and I saw in your work >> Yes, ma'am.
>> that you have that you haven't been published with them yet. Okay. And that was in your um your uh >> shape shifter >> shape shifter goals, right? So, and the and I'm asking this for a reason. Yes,
ma'am. So, if you'll bear with me, okay, you're getting ready to come to work or potentially work with the city of Cape Canaveral and you have your goals in there to develop and help our community
with, you know, working with poetry and those types of things and representing our community. the samples I'm seeing. I don't have any samples that reflect our community as far as the nature or
any of those things. Do you have any of that type of work? >> I'm sorry. Do you mind repeating it? >> Sure. I'm I'm kind of rolling around there with it. Okay. So, with your bio. >> Okay. >> You have I I love your work. I I had
literally done like masterpiece of literature and all of that in college myself. So I like literary stuff. Um your examples that you gave us >> aren't really they're not like um a
community any type of community work whether it's environment or any of those things or anything like that. Do you have any of that type of sample work? >> I would say poetry in itself is a community. the idea of diversity and not having any bounds
>> is the whole point of poetry. >> So whether you're talking about writing poetry on the beach, which is pretty much the prime of Cape Canaveral, my favorite part at least, um that's something I'm definitely going to hit on. And one of the ways I'm going to do that as poet laurate, if I'm lucky
enough to get the honor, um would be through beachwalks, uh through advertising with the city. I would love to lead a beachwalk and during the beachwalk we all pick up items whether it's a sea shell, sea
glass, uh, etc. and we just write short poems about them. So kind of having community outreach and expanding that lens and starting to write poems about the community as opposed to just what you're talking about right now. >> Okay. And that's why well this is why
I'm asking you've got it in your bio. My intention is to bridge generations with poetry and promote the Cape Canaveral community. >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, as I look at the ca at your sample work, I see great work. You're talented.
I don't necessarily draw this to our community as far as Cape Canaveral. And as a poet laurate, you would be representing the city >> 100%. >> So, that's why I was asking, do you have any of that type of work, nature, you know, any of that stuff? do have stuff
related to nature related to the beach. >> And that's what I'd like to see a sample. >> If you'd like me to recite one now, I'm totally willing to >> I would like to see some samples of that. >> Can I pull one up right now? Would that be okay? >> As long as >> I I think uh to recite a poem.
>> Yeah, sure. >> Well, depending on the time, we've got >> probably about a minute and a half. >> Council, I don't have a problem with hearing anything you'd like to share with us. So, >> and as he's getting prepared, >> so
my favorite time of year is summer, as I would assume many people's favorite time is. Um, and one of the poems I've written is about taking summer for granted. And I think that really connects to Cape Canal. But the best part about that is
that being in Florida really doesn't restrict summer. It's warm year round. So, I wrote this from a perspective when I was in Minnesota and it really has it really reflect why I enjoy Florida now. So, I'm going to pull it up.
I don't have Luke, I don't want to put you on the spot. >> I got you. I I know we're in a rush. I got you guys. >> Okay. Um, but I would like to see some of that type of work in addition to the samples that you provided us is what my point was.
This summer is called taking summer or this poem's called taking summer for granted. It goes, I feel unappreciated when it comes to you. I feel as though nothing I do makes you happy. I cook for you. I wash your
clothes for you. I do everything for you. Do you appreciate that? No. A 2008 poem by Precious is all that comes to mind when I imagine you thinking of me. Cuz the other day the cat's paw reminded me of my mistakes, of
society's mistakes. Because maybe I hinted, but I failed to appreciate you. I failed to become enamored by your beauty. You're gone, and now there's nothing left to treasure. But while the breeze is singing loud,
I'm starting to become obsessed. Man, your warmth. Damn, it was like a mother's hug the night of a breakup. And I miss you only now when I can no longer see scattered hues after the bedtime of children. Cuz
Lord, the blood orange, rose red, and lemon peeled yellow of the night sky finally sang to me so loudly. Walks across a bridge with the sun on my eyes. Long days meant to be filled with what only the heart can imagine. Pretty much
everything but stay inside to write poems. So, no, I did not leave because writing and poetry is the place where I feel most safe. It's the place where my friends feel most safe. And I see that and I see that to be more valuable than
your warm embrace. Because in an era of inauthenticity, I'm connected to a community I don't have. I'm given grace from a pen. I'm given heart. I'm given friendship. My pen even teases me for my Braillelike
handwriting. Oh, and my notebook. We go a long way back. Each page represents a story. Each page gives me the platform to impact people. People like me. Nonetheless, you and
your 5 a.m. dons continue to fade like a LeBron jumper from the left hash. So, I'll make a vow. Like a good parent, I'll promise to adore you and my writing utensils equally when June erupts. But as this summer ends, I remember making
the same vow the last time I said summer's over. Thank you. >> Thank you for sharing that. It takes a lot of courage and I love your energy. I think you're clearly passionate about this form of art
>> and I know I took up some time but I >> No, that's okay. We allowed >> Thank you. I um >> I just want to say that I think what council or mayor pro Tim Jackson is saying is >> um >> do you and if you do not
we want to I would like to get to know you a little bit better because this is a a position that I think you know you can do some really good stuff for the city. I can clearly see your heart is in it. >> Yes. And I I don't know
because I when I go through I see some of the different perspectives in here, but perhaps when you have more time, we could circle back and get some look at some other pieces that you have for us and bring us >> Sure.
>> maybe the December meeting to to to understand a little bit more about what you want to do. >> Certainly. Um, I was only provided five slots to be able to enter poetry. Um, one of the poems, one of the areas I hit on for the community and I would like to
make this clear is the poem that's written named the pharmacist grandmother. It's to my knowledge that a lot of people of the Cape Canaveral community happen to be of older age >> and immersing myself within that community and showing what people who
have more insight to give than I do >> mean to me was a big part of why I put that poem in there. So that's kind of how I related it to the city. >> That was the first poem. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That's that's helpful. >> So that that's definitely how I connected that to the city of Cape
Canaveral. And um I was sent to you guys by uh the parks and wreck board. They sent me through. They were nice enough to do that. >> That's awesome. The nomination um is appreciated. Council member or Mayor Pro Tim Jackson,
I'll get it right. I I kind of interjected there. Uh but you had the floor. Yeah, I was and and I can see where your first point, Jify. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Definitely did this because I read through all of them.
>> Um, you know, I I would like to I'm thinking like along the lines you were, Mayor uh Morrison, is I'd like to see a little bit more of your work. Um
but also if you could um give me not tonight but if we come and revisit this in December >> next meeting I'd love to bring the poems here >> and I would love to know I would love to see what your vision is
for how to um what your vision is for what you would do in this spot because answer that. >> Okay. Um, I actually gave a lot of thought to this because I was interviewed by the last board, so I wasn't sure what was going on today. Um,
I'd like to to look into outreach and the way I want to do that is by connecting with not just people my age, but people older and kind of bridging that gap. The best poetry transcends anything that is argumentative.
It unites. And when I say that, what I mean >> I'm sorry. What was the question again? I apologize. >> You're fine. >> I just I wasn't sure. I wasn't given an agenda, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I was expecting an interview and I prepared for it.
>> Well, and exactly. And and Luke, this is why I'm I'm wanting this to know what what your plan would be once we get you honest. you know, if if that is the decision that's made, how are you going
to and it's not just interact with community because you've already put in here about reaching out to the New York Times and things like that. And we are very specific on right now we are about how we're outreaching to the uh to the
media, >> okay, >> and things of that nature. So I think if I understood your plan more once you started you know what kind and here comes Molly
to help me >> the po poet laurate is only an honorary position he will work with staff on all programming and outreach to the media and he will not be posting on behalf of the city or anything like that. That's still done by staff. That's not saying
he's >> he's the writer and he's the face of the poet laurate and the program summary is outlined there but everything that he does will be done in conjunction with staff because he does not have the authority to do that. >> Okay? Because you know we're right now
boy if we advertise Cape Canaveral in some places we're going to get a mad rush of people moving and boy that's that could be a precarious situation with our plant and stuff. following your guys. >> Yeah. Yeah. He'll he'll follow Staff's lead.
>> Okay. >> Um again, I mean, I would absolutely love to start now. I I've been planning on this, not for months, but for years. This has been a goal of mine. If you guys nominate me, I would become the youngest poet laurate in a district's
history. So, really looking forward to the opportunity if it's given to me. Um, and I can't wait to get to work. Whether that's coming to every single council meeting, making sure that I involve my guys, I involve myself with you guys.
Um, of course, I won't take any steps without the staffs. Go ahead. >> Thank you. Anything else, Mayor Jackson? >> Council, any questions here? >> Yes. Um, Luke,
>> how long does it normally take you to write a poem? >> Thank you. I that's a fun question actually. So sometimes it'll go all day. I'll immerse myself into it all day. Maybe take a little bit of a break, but I'm really into it. Sometimes it'll take
30 seconds legitimately. >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. What if what if we asked Luke to with Molly's assistance to identify uh some part of Cape Canaveral and bring
back a poem in December. I have no I I am excited about and I think what we're talking about is what the poet laurette in the past has been this council I think is willing to I think match your energy and with our
city staff's support there um that would be helpful to me council member Willis to >> I I think just to try to capture the essence of Cape Canaveral we we have the space program We have the cruise
ships. We have beautiful beaches. We have very friendly people. We have interesting lifestyle. We have pickle ball. >> Yes, sir. >> I'm a tennis player. >> Okay. There there therein there is a uh
conundrum. So, um I think if he could, uh bring back something that is focused on Cape Canaveral >> and how we see Cape Canaveral maybe versus how outside of Cape Canaveral sees us and
let's let's hear that. >> That works. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Council Member Shoryak. Anything? >> This is this is great. We appreciate you. Yes, Molly. So, I'll bring back an agenda item for the December meeting so
that he'll have an opportunity to share his poetry. >> If that's okay, I think that would be really great. >> Depends on what your vote is right now. >> I support that. I think >> I would make a motion to bring it back with an with a specific example for us
to digest if you don't mind. >> And I'll second the motion. >> Got a motion by Council Member Willis, a second by Mayor Pro Tim Jackson. Any further discussion? City clerk, >> Mayor Prom Jackson,
>> four, >> Mayor Morrison, >> four, >> council member Shiaak >> four, >> and council member Wes >> four. >> Motion passes 40. Thank you again. We appreciate you. >> Thank you, Luke.
>> Okay, so that was really it. the end of uh the consent because we made a decision on item 12.4 earlier in the agenda which brings us to item 13 item for action. 13.1 is a resolution 202521 declaring a
vacancy on the city council. That's our city attorney to help us with the overview here. This isn't I've never been here before. So, uh appreciate all your work on this matter. >> Yep. Um thank you, mayor. um at the uh
qualifying period for the um for the previous general election um just one candidate qualified for two open seats. That was Mr. Shuriak. So um as a result, Mr. Shuriak was elected um you know
based on um based on that fact. So now that the new council has taken office and the new council is situated, there is now a vacancy um effective this evening on on the city council. There are only four of you. The charter
requires five seats. Uh the proposed resolution is for purposes of declaring the vacancy. So where the council would acknowledge that the vacancy is now has now been created under the charter that uh sets a a clock um for the city
council. Uh it's a 90day clock in which the city council has an opportunity to appoint one qualified candidate um to serve on the city council as an appointed council person until the next general election which is November of 2026.
So, this resolution formally recognizes and declares the vacancy and then starts the the clock running 90-day clock for the city council to make an appointment until the November 3rd, 2026
um election. Um presuming this resolution passes, the council declares the vacancy. The second part of this agenda is asking direction from the city council on how they want to go about filling uh this appointment. uh two approaches are presented for your
consideration. One is a non-structured approach um which is basically an ad hoc approach. Um the second um approach is a more structured approach where the city council would establish um a qualifying period so to speak where qualified
applicants could submit applications for the city council to review before making the appointment. So first item of business is approve the resolution. Second um item of business is to give uh the staff direction on how you want to
go about filling this vacancy. Mayor, >> thank you. City attorney, let's take them, I think, one at a time. Declaring the vacancy is step one. This the the latter on direction, I think, is going to be a little bit more conversation. Council, it's pretty straightforward. I think we just need to formally declare
that we have a vacancy and uh that resolution is 202521. >> I'll make a motion to pass the resolution 2025-21. >> I'll second.
>> Got a motion by council member Willis, a second by Mayor Perim Jackson to pass resolution 202521. Any further discussion on this one on the motion? Good. City clerk. Mayor
Pros Jackson four. Mayor Morrison >> four. >> Council member Shriak >> four. >> And council member Willis >> four. >> Okay. Resolution 202521 passes 40. Vacancy is formally declared.
We now are on to item 13.2. The second part of what our city attorney explained which is the appointment of a qualified candidate uh to fill the vacancy. a second here. And okay, so uh on the agenda really the
options that are in front of us. Thank you. here. Um, item one and two, the nomination by charter, if I understand my first question, has to be up until the next election. That's a
charter thing. Not we cannot appoint even though there's three years really, >> right? Yeah. in the vacancy but it cannot >> go beyond an election. >> Yeah, the council has appointment authority but only that appointee would only serve until the next general
election which is November 3rd 2026 and during the November 3rd 2026 election there would be an a a special election so to speak for the remaining two-year uh balance of the term for that seat.
Okay, council. Thank you. >> Now, I have one question. >> Yes, Mayor Tim Jackson. Um on the qualifying
I was reading through this of course you know how I am the the less structured and structured approach when we qualified when you have you know during the election cycle one of those pieces of qualifying was having a bank
account which would not be applicable for this. So is that process modified for whatever candidates that we may >> Yeah, it does. There there's no there's no need for a bank account, right, for
um >> you know, since we're appointing for contributions and expenditures. So you know that that issue can just be dispensed with. >> Okay. You know what doesn't get dispensed with is the fact that the city has um an election code which requires
qualification statement um on doicile to be um executed. There's also some uh state statutory um you know documents that would have to be um submitted and um you know and the and the qualifying application gets
submitted with the background information so you know the city council can make an informed decision. And I know it's a small community, but um nonetheless, that documentation, you know, should be um submitted um you know, for for review and completeness
before the city council makes an an appointment. And did we have anyone u and this was for the city clerk. Did we have anyone that that provided the documentation that was needed
with I mean bank account doesn't matter but during the qualifi the election qualification period >> I mean this last election. Yes. >> Okay. How many people did we have? >> One.
>> One. Okay. So, we've had one person that attempted. >> Yes. >> Yeah. One person that my my understanding one person >> attempted and qualified and he's now on the city council at the end there. No
one no one else No one else qualified. >> No one else submitted. Well, I understand they didn't qualify, but what I'm wondering is did anyone submit paper? And the reason I'm asking this is I had such a hard time setting up my bank account. That's where I'm going with this.
>> So, I literally when I ran both times, I it took me a some time to get the bank account set up here locally. And the last time they were working on the computer systems, and it took me like three days. So, I was since that's not a
requirement, I was wondering if anyone had gone through the process, everything else except for that because they have me come in and fill it all out. And then, you know, I had to go get my bank account and bring that information back.
So, no one got through the filling it all out part. Okay, that's what my question was. >> Thank you. And I think I mean I remember the day it was we were all at the League of Cities on noon and I
>> I think there was other interested people who inquired about it and that was one other person other than Mr. Shoryak at the time.
>> I'd say two or three. >> Okay. um by telephone calls and one person. >> Thank you. >> Didn't request the paperwork. >> Okay. >> Mayor Pertim Jackson, any
>> Did we have any that picked up the binder? No. >> Council member Willis. >> Uh yeah, I would be in favor of a structured approach on the application process.
uh think we should give staff the the ability to do the leg work for us and uh we would have a better chance of knowing a little bit more about people
that uh we want to consider because it may be somebody none of us know currently. I'm sure we all have people we wish would apply, but uh as we we've seen, we only
had one. I'm not no nothing against Tom, but I mean, we only had one person. >> So, there's apparently apathy out there. So, I would I would like to see a structured approach and let's see what we can uncover.
>> Thank you. Council member Shoryak, do you have any comments on this at this time? >> I agree with Council Member Willis that on the structured approach. I think it'll more transparent for us and know more about who's applying for it and maybe I I'm not sure where does it get publicized that that we have an opening.
Is it just on our Facebook page or the city's website? the website. >> Everybody knows website, newsletter, bulletin board, social media, etc. >> And the notice board outside, that kind of thing. Yes.
>> Yeah. I think um you put it on the sign on the road out there with the the parable of a mesh sign. >> Got it. the um I guess not knowing I know one of the candidate I think is here tonight
someone who was interested but they did not obviously we had one that qualified submit you know who the other ones are I I don't know but I can say that uh just to be direct
that individual I think is extremely qualified and I would fully support not wasting any time in appointing them. That comes with the assumption like Mayor Pro Tim Jackson if they would be willing to to do that. And so I if that's the case,
um I'm I'm fine with with that. And now clarifying it's not for a full three years. It's it's just for one year. And
um I'm in favor of of nominating a candidate in the less structured approach. And the reason being is that I mean um during the qualifying period you do you know we didn't we might have had people that called but what I had seen
when I ran two election cycles people were up here getting the binder you know I mean they were coming up here and trying to get the paperwork and so to me a phone call may not really indicate that much interest
because and This is and I will say this too. This is the first year in my awareness at all that we had no election that we have a vacancy to fill in this
city. >> Before when we would go through our election processes, we would have five candidates trying for two seats or five candidates trying for three seats. Um, so as I look at that,
you know, if if there's someone that's here that wants to be on council, I think we should consider that just because what has happened is not normal for our city. I was really fairly
shocked that we didn't have any candidates. >> I'm still fairly shocked over that. So cuz that that's not how it worked two times up ramp. I mean we have more than more than enough so >> to make a choice for voters to make a
choice. >> So since a it is a year appointment and then that would put that person running with council member Willis and I next year they get to run with us. Um you
know it's a year appointment. it fills the need and that way we can continue on with the business of the council because the other the structured application process to me looks like we're almost doing another election cycle with some
of the steps to it. >> Yeah. And I think if the candidate is would like to come forward, Miss King, if if you don't mind, obviously during elections, we communicate, residents call, they come,
hey, I'm interested. And I think you had expressed an interest and the confusion. What I didn't know was about the other individuals in our city clerk help. It was my understanding that the deadline was at noon as opposed to what you
believed to be 5:00 pm and with the bank account that would that was an issue. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh first of all I did apply and qualified to run in 2020 and for personal reasons I had to step
down from that. Um but I've never lost my interest in what's happening in the city. I've paid attention to most of the issues and have an opinion about them. But furthermore, I want to know every aspect of them, every facet. I want to
know everybody's side and help deliberate on it. When I found out that there was nobody running and my husband and I both worked the polls and we had no election to work at and it was just really strange. So, I
thought, you know, maybe this is the time for me to do this again and try it again. So, I um reached out to our city clerk, Miss Coulson, and I contacted her and she said, "Okay, you've got to, you know, she told me what I needed to do."
So, I ran down to the bank first thing, tried to open up an account, and of course, I didn't have the proper paperwork, so I had to come back to city hall to get it. And I walked in and she met me and she I remember you you just look so downhearted about it. I felt terrible.
It was like she said, "No, the don't the deadline is at noon." I said, "It's not at 5." "No, it's at noon." And this was about what 10 after 12, 15 minutes after 12. So I was not
eligible in that regard. I was disappointed. But I mean, you know, sometimes these things happen. But the fact that there wasn't anybody that was raising their hand and saying, "I want to do it. I'll do it." Thought I
thought, "Well, maybe maybe this is a God thing. I don't know, but maybe this is where I'm supposed to be. I have a desire for it, and I think I have I think I'm qualified for it." And uh I anyway that's that's my my position on
it. This is my city. I love this city. I've lived here since 1992. And um I see the direction that it's taking. Some of it's wonderful, some of it not. And I want to be part of the decision-making process to guide our
city into the future that's going to be beneficial for everybody. So anyway, any questions? for me. No, not at this time. We might have some in a little bit. Okay. Um, and so maybe stay close. But I would say
that the the >> the my questions about the total inbound calls or inquiries was to figure out just that is that if there were multiple people that you
were the only one with an exception of Mr. Shyak in my opinion >> that physically was come down and tried to pursue it. Fortunately, it passed the deadline >> and I think that in itself, if we are
going to go through a structured application process, now that opportunity was there at that time and and andrea was the the second one who who showed a
desire and there's people that will get involved just because It's an appointment and there's no election involved. >> And what I think that's going to do is bring in uh more work on our city staff
to advertise. Uh it's going to have a lot of of uh people who were not here that day pursuing it. And so I think that speaks volumes that your intent to run had just
met four hours, 5 hours short. and but no one else with an exception of maybe some phone call inquiries if I understand had been uh went to that level.
>> And so that speaks volumes to me uh on your on your will and motive to to step out and do it. And so thank you for sharing that with us. Council, do we have any questions um
for Andrea? I have one. >> Yes. Mayor Pro Tim. >> Um, so Andrea, I remember you had involvement at NASA and as we move forward in the space race that that we're in,
>> were, you know, an integral part of that as a the city of Cape Canaveral. Uh, would you tell me about your NASA >> um, Sure. experience? >> I'm going to take you back just a step even back further. When I was hired by
West TV to cover Bvard County, I thought the news director told me Broward County and I came here to Cape Canaveral. I didn't have a clue. I thought it was Broward and it was Brevard and I thought, "Wow, how okay." So, I started
covering the county and um I was I was actually back up to the prime reporter who was covering Kennedy Space Center and all the activity there. So, I was covering what was going on here in the community in the county, countywide. There was a county administrator who was
um doing unne unethical things and I had him on video and on tape admitting these things. Um, I got back to the studio, which is just down the street here, to edit my piece for the 6:00 news, and I was told
to call the news director immediately. So I did and the news director told me at the time we can't run your peace. I asked him why. He said because we have to be able to get along with these people. God's God's truth.
That really opened my eyes to how the news is covered. I stayed with it for another maybe under a year and then I had the opportunity to work on somebody's campaign for county commissioner
district 1 Titusville and I I helped him out. I ran his campaign dayto day and subsequently he won. He took on he he he got the position. He asked me to join him as his legislative assistant,
but at the same time I had made friends with people that worked out at the public affairs press site NASA and there was an opening there and they told me, you know, you should probably apply for that. We've told our boss about you and
he's interested. So I applied and I got the job working as a public affairs officer for NASA and I was there for 4 years during the time that the Challenger blew up. In fact, I was in launch control at the time doing launch commentary. Um and
that was quite an experience I will tell you to be right there and experiencing all of that. After that happened, they asked me if I would work on the um the investigation. It was called the 51L um uh analysis and design investigation
as a scribe memorializing these meetings. So I would sit in on these meetings and and pay attention and write. Okay, I tell you all of this because I was intimately involved at NASA. I worked for USBI, United Space Boosters, who was
implicated in the the um explosion because of the O-rings that were in the solid rocket boosters. And um I stayed with them for a while longer. I stayed with them for well and we returned to flight and I stayed I stayed along with them. at at some point things wound down
and there were a lot of layoffs out there. A lot of shrinkage because we weren't, you know, we just weren't zooming like we had been in the early days. So I left NASA, started my own business here in Cape Canaveral. My husband and I both we started a public
relations and media relations firm and we did that for about I don't know four years I guess. And um then I took a retirement. I just decided to retire. And it was during that time that I got back into looking at local government and what was happening here. I got
involved with the Tea Party. I got involved with political action committees. I was back into the swing of things, but on a national level. And I kept hearing this voice in my head saying, you know, all politics is local. All politics is local. And when I took a
look around me and I saw what was happening to Cape Canaveral, I just thought, you know, I need to have my finger in this. Somehow or other, I need to be involved. And so that's when I took out the application in 2020 to run for council. But again, as I said, for
personal reasons, I had to I had to pull back. But I have time now. I'm working part-time out at the port for a cruise line and I'm seeing things at the port that are really alarming. Um, but that's a whole other thing. Um, and so I I I
just we have to protect this little city of ours. We are getting eaten alive by the corporate mindset at Port Canaveral. And we've got a space program that we we're
looking at the starship coming in and how are we going to cope with that. I want to be part of the decision-making that guides us through that. And for a year, I mean, I thought, well, you know, for a year, if I if I do a good job, people will recognize that and I can run
for election and maybe get elected and and fill a third a three-year term. >> So, anyway, does that answer your question, Miss Jackson? Okay. >> Thank you. It was kind of a long dissertation, but now you know. >> Well, I think what you ended is the
willingness to run is what separated it you from everyone else. Council member Shoryak, he was qualified. He knew that an election could happen. And I think that your desire in 2020, uh,
your recent desire met by a few hours earlier is what will separate you from any other candidate that we would see in a structured application process with an exception of a formally elected council member, council member Jack or um, Davis
or uh, council member mayor prom former Kellum. Both qualified candidates, right? they they were elected by the people >> and and so shy of that which I don't think >> we keep up with a lot of them right now we don't have any former who has shown
an interest >> but but you were in second place for a lack of better words you were right there obviously didn't meet the cut >> and I think to go with anyone else beyond that is more of an opportunist who is seeking uh something that maybe
doesn't go beyond Mhm. >> 20 uh 20 five or six, excuse me. >> And so, thank you for for sharing that. Um like I said, during election times, this was the first year usually people
contact, hey, what's going on? I'm I'm thinking about it. I didn't have anything with an exception of hearing you and and Mr. Shyak showing an interest. And so, there could be some other people But I don't think they they
took that step. They was considering and they weren't willing. I hope that makes sense to and my concern with the structured process is that we can move now. I'm
confident that from what I've observed is this was the person who was pursuing it and willing to do it for the right reasons. And for those reasons, I think we should um assuming
Andrea is still willing and I should if you've said it, I maybe clarify you are still willing. >> Yes. >> I I would like to consider uh moving as quickly as possible on this. Uh, and I know that if qualifying paperwork,
if that packet is provided and submitted without financial forms, >> I don't know if we as a council would have to wave that rights or cuz qualified, but city attorney, could you help uh
understand the timeline of what an appointment and a swearing in would look like as far today. Could we get this done? Um, I guess what would be the fastest possible that we
could move is my question. >> Well, I mean, it's a it's a political appointment and the the person that that you appoint needs to meet the qualifications under the charter for residency. I know Miss King has been a long-standing resident of Cape
Canaveral. um you know, but there are paperwork. You have to fill out the qualifying statement. Um there's going to be a financial form that's going to be have to be submitted, right, with the state. All that paperwork. You know, it's again, it's a political appointment. Um you know, typically you
would get all this paperwork in order uh before you would make an appointment, but >> you know, the council count it's council's prerogative. you know, if you were to require her to submit all the paperwork, then the council can make the appointment thereafter, either at your
meeting in December or or in, you know, in another way, right? Um, a special meeting. Um, it's up to the council. >> Technically, could we appoint tonight? >> Like I said, it's a political appointment and, you know, to She's very
known in the community. Um, you know, it's how much comfort does the council have on on due diligence before making the appointment? I mean, it's a it's you all. It's your decision. Um, you have the council, I guess, presume if you want to uh proceed with an appointment
tonight, uh, the paperwork would then um, you know, then then there's the swearing in, of course, and then uh, the paperwork would have to be completed. You know, what's the cart before the horse or the horse before the cut? I'll leave that to you.
>> Point contingent upon submitting the paperwork in a certain amount of time and then when that paperwork comes in, she could easily sworn in at a future meeting. Theoretically, just like legally, there's no issues that I'm hearing with that.
>> Were you going to say something? >> I I was just going to say I came by the city hall this afternoon to get the paperwork. Um, it wasn't ready yet. Miss Coulson was busy and and Amanda, I think it was, said that they'd have it for me tomorrow afternoon. And I also brought
my paperwork from 2020 that I've already filled out so I can kind of, you know, not use it, but refer to it. It's not unfamiliar to me. >> So, >> thank you. >> Yeah. Okay. And had you not been the
one, there's no other process in my opinion other than the strap structured application process with an exception of the people that inquired, but there's a big difference in the two, the one that moved their feet to go and to pursue it
and and the in your willingness in the past. And so council, I mean it is my I think it is in the best interest of the city of Cape Canaveral that we do not open up the strruct the uh process of a new
qualifying period with new candidates for uh the remaining term. I have enough confidence and the involvement of Andrea in all of our meetings has shown uh
there's been a few residents that have been steady but there's really no comparison and you're while you may not always be here you've got a a finger on what's going on on the pulse and I think you know as far as my comfort level um I
Um I believe you are are fully qualified and to be verified and submitting uh that that I know on the residency clearly. >> Um and so thank you for your willingness
to do this. >> Um >> it would be my pleasure and my honor. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Shall I be seated? >> You may. May I ask May I ask one question? Oh, yes. >> Um, Miss King, yes.
>> Would your personal reasons for dropping out in 2020 >> Mhm. >> could could they >> could they come up? >> No. No. >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um, Mr. Mayor, I still want to have a
structured approach. Um, after seeing the things that have happened in other municipalities in Bvard County, I would like to fully vet anybody we bring on. >> What's happened? Maybe I'm out of the news from
>> Well, you can look at other municipalities around that. Yeah. >> But what's happened that you're concerned about? >> Well, I mean, you have Palm Bay, you have Melbourne, you have a lot of different issues. I just would like to have people vetted
to the extreme if possible. And we don't know who might have been wanting to call at noon and was again 5 hours late. >> Well, there's there's a lot we don't know >> and I think we need to put it out there to let
>> anybody that might be interested have the opportunity to apply. >> Thank you for your comments. I disagree respectfully and I think uh Miss King is beyond qualified and the vetting process is clear. you know, the
as long as the paperwork's submitted. Um, I think that outlines and governs qualified. If we're talking about vetting, like asking questions and interviewing, um, m council member Shoryak sits beside
us today by mo moving his feet, went in, he met the deadline, and I'm just going, who came the next closest to that? that >> he was >> paired up with my knowledge and your involvement is enough. Are there any
other questions for >> Can I Can I make a a a comment to Councilman Willis? >> Councilman Willis, you may remember um when you ran for the first time, I contributed to your campaign. It wasn't a lot of money, but it was enough. and I
didn't know much about you, but I took you at your word and I had some friends that were with me who spoke for you and so I contributed to your campaign. I didn't do a hard vet on you. I trusted you. >> Mhm.
>> And I would hope that you would do the same for me. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Any other questions for Andrea? >> This is new for us too, Tom. I know it is a >> yeah I I know I agreed with the
structured approach. I didn't realize we had someone another candidate in the wings who was actually interested in it. >> The second part is what I I needed to confirm is they were willing to do it and interested. >> Okay. >> So I mean I I have no problem
just with nominating and however we go about the process. >> Thank you. Sure. Mayor Pertim, anything else? No, I mean I still believe that if people were
truly interested I mean so we would have had an election and so in order for us to move forward I think this the less structured and going ahead and appointing the one that came
in that has qualified twice trying to do or started qualification this time and has qualified before it shows the initiative that they want to serve. serve on counsel. So for me, I don't have a problem with giving someone that
opportunity because we don't have anyone else even here speaking up saying they want to do that. >> I agree. >> And we knew that we have an opening. So if anyone was interested, wouldn't they be here? >> I think they are.
>> And yeah, >> to your point, I agree. It's it's unprecedented, like I said earlier, that we didn't have an election. I'm just still floored by that. Um because that's not the way it's ever gone for in the
city of Cape Canaveral. We've always had more candidates than we've had openings on council. So, um I say we I say we take the person that's interested enough to and want and wants to do the job.
How much time would you need to submit the paperwork? >> Well, if the city clerk has it ready for me tomorrow. Um, >> I should have asked that first. >> Sorry. Go ahead. I apologize. >> Well, a day or two really because I already have it filled out from when I
applied when I tried to qualify in 2020. And not much has changed since then. So, I'm just going to go back and review what I did before and I can fill out this one and if there are any changes, I'll add them to it. >> Thank you. City clerk's office. Is this
something >> well >> could have ready? >> No, not ready. No. Okay. Because didn't know which approach he was going to take whether it's the less structured or the structured application process. >> However, there has been a change since 2020. >> So, um
>> Oh, in the forms. That's fine. >> Yes. at the state level and um you know just have to make sure that we give you the >> most current and so >> it won't be available tomorrow. >> They won't be available tomorrow. Okay.
>> But um >> can you give me an idea of when they will be? >> I'll have to contact you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. I think that um if we're able to get those uh couple days for you when our city clerk's
office is able to get those ready, thank you for that. >> Uh we would just figure a few days at most after. >> It would be my uh recommendation that we yes we go with the less structured approach which is
less uh involvement in work. we would appoint tonight contingent upon submitting the paperwork before I would say 10 days would be ideal and then we should I think call a special meeting
and have a swearing in for Miss King assuming all that comes in if that is okay and legal with our city attorney >> and I can >> the city council can make the mic's off I mean the city council can make the
appointment subject to um completion of all the required forms. >> Okay. >> And and assuming you know all of the paperwork is um you know filled out. >> Um it's not technically necessary um for another special council meeting for the swearing in unless the council
wants to have a ceremony. I mean you know the you could make the appointment contingent upon completing all the paperwork. If the paperwork um is in order on its face um then you know issue can be sworn in >> and when would that swearing in happen?
>> Assuming all the paperwork is completed. >> Would it happen at a meeting? >> It does not. My point was it does not technically have to be at a city council meeting if the council makes the appointment contingent upon all the paperwork being submitted. >> Well, I mean it it'd be a big if she
wanted to. I just thought from the ceremonial like council member Shoryak tonight if she wanted to be here that the um obviously the December meeting is um third Tuesday we could hold a
ceremonial event that meeting. I think my issue would be well well that to me is fine. What it is is the time that goes by. If we call a meeting, we have four. As soon as we're able to have five
participating, that's going to be best. And so I don't have an issue if this council be okay with appointing contingent on submitting the paperwork. And if Andrea was
comfortable, she would be sworn in. It sounds like by our city attorney, we not may not be here, but it could be done. >> That's fine. I'm sorry. >> And then if we wanted to have a ceremonial swearing in, perhaps we could, but so um just trying to honor
the position. I I think that's the best uh path forward. And council member Shoryak, you >> I agree with you. >> You have no issue. Okay. >> Um
All right. Well, looking uh let let's do this. Uh make a motion to Mayor Jim Jackson. Do you want to make the motion contingent? >> Sure, I can. I'll make the mo I'll make a motion to appoint Andrea Sha King um
as our council member for one year contingent upon the qualification paperwork being completed within how long? 10 days you said >> yes 10 days. >> Second.
>> Got a motion by Mayor Perim Jackson and a second by council member Shoryak. Is that motion clear? city clerk's office. Do we need to restate? And our city attorney, I think obviously if there was any issue with that motion, I know she said one year. I think that's
okay. >> Until the next the Yeah. >> Sorry. >> Until the next general election. >> Yeah. Until the next election. >> Approximately one year away. >> Right.
>> Okay. Do we need to restate it or clarify anything? Good. Thank you. Any discussion on the motion? Council member Willis. >> Council member Shore. >> No. Mayor Tim Jackson.
>> No. >> City manager, are there any logistical administrative things that are concerned with this? >> No concerns, mayor. We'll just get the clerk's office to start working with um the candidate and uh get this moving for
the council. >> Thank you. >> City clerk, please call the role. >> May prom Jackson for Mayor Morrison >> four. >> Council member Shiaak >> four.
>> And council member Willis >> against. The uh motion passes 3 to one. And um obviously our the city staff is here to support you to clarify anything. >> Okay.
>> Thank you so much for your willingness to to help be a part of this community for the next year. I look forward if everything goes as planned to working with you. >> Me too. I'm looking forward to getting down to business. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your confidence and your faith. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. Okay, let's go ahead and take a five minute or 10 minute recess here if that's okay. I can keep going if we want to keep going. Let me kind of get oriented here in the total agenda. We just
uh we just handled 13.1 and 13.2. And that really brings us to Yeah, let's pause here if that's okay, council. We'll knock that last item. We'll have one public hearing and I think that's
it. Um, just Okay, so let's uh reconvene. It is 8:09. It's 8:15. If we can so we don't waste too much time. If we need longer, obviously, we'll get started when we come back.
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probably came off. He kept going. That's really kind of No one's here. It was technically already handled or could have been handled. I think from Melissa. >> I think they were going to have about 30
parents. >> I saw that they're doing the exact same thing. I watched the meeting today at 1:00. >> They had, you know, all the emails from this. >> Yeah. >> Hold on.
>> Anthony. usually doing It's too little. I don't know. Are we ready to go? Reconvene. Good. >> Ready. All right. Go ahead and call the meeting back to
order. It is 8:21 p.m. We just finished up item 13.2. We are now at item 13.3 titled Space Coast Transportation Planning Organization SCPO governing board appointment.
Um the recommended is a motion to consider the appointment of a council member representing North Beach Coalition to serve as the voting delegate to the Space Coast Transportation Planning Organization Governing Board for the year 2026.
I will say uh the past five years has been really a it's had its challenges and what I recall internally focused legislative council that where we we've done some
work and today we stand uh uh together one town one team as our city manager has said in early days during the interview and that really stuck with me and it's continued and I'm happy and very grateful for where we are today. I
share that because my focus was inward, but I would like if the council would choose the ability to step out and be the mayor our charter and code talks about within our governmental relations and take uh your consideration to be
appointed to serve on this SCTPO. Um, if there's any desire from from any other council member to to be on that, I think we we can certainly consider that, but I want
to come out and and express my desire. Thank you, >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. I've I've served on this board for four years and um I have done everything I could to
promote Cape Canaveral and facilitate uh safety issues for Cape Canaveral. I was able to bring the pedestrian hybrid beacon that was not on FDOT's plan. I was able to get that funded. That took a
lot of work, a lot of effort, a lot of coordination, a lot of uh moving within the the framework of government, if you will. Um, I've also made a lot of connections, been on a
number of boards, represented both Cape Canaveral and the TPO at a number of events. I serve on the Central Florida Safety Steering Committee for FDOT. I'm part of the MOAC and I am also nominated for the Space
Coast TPO chair position. So it would be in my opinion in the best interest of Cape Canaveral for me to continue and to keep going with the way I'm going because uh I have discussions
with engineering with FDOT for additional pedestrian hybrid beacons along A1A. Excuse me. And I think it would be an excellent opportunity for Cape Canaveral to
exhibit its influence. And um I think um removing me from that position will make us take a step back in our involvement and where we are at this time. >> Is there anyone else who would be
interested in this position? Thank you, Council Member Willis. Mayor Pertim, >> no, I'm I'm not interested in that. Um, but taking care of it. I I understand and I appreciate all of Council Member
Willis's work. I know he's worked on this board very diligently. However, with all of the the information, well, with all of the projects that we had being put off past 2027 and further on 528 and those kinds
of things, um, and I may not be educated enough on this board to see what difference this would make right now if we made a change back to the mayor doing the position. And the reason is we see
Cocoa Beach the mayor is has been the voting delegate. So, um I certainly am in favor of our mayor doing what our mayor is supposed to be doing. Um so I'm
I'm will support you on your wanting to be on that uh governing board. I think u council member Willis has done a fantastic job and he has done things that have been very helpful to our city.
Um but you know FDOT has put us on the back burner on a lot of things and so this may be actually the best time to do this. We don't have those projects moving forward right now. They've been pushed out.
>> Thank you. Mayor for Tim Jackson, Council Member Shoryak, is this something you were interested in? >> No, sir. >> Thank you. So, knowing that, I appreciate it. And did you have any comments? >> No. >> Okay. >> Um, thank you, Council Member Willis.
And I echo what Mayor Pro Tim said. Uh, everything you just went through, um, is appreciated and the positive impact has, uh, we we can see what's happened. Uh I
don't view this as removing you. Um every year it we you were appointed by I think all of us for one year and you fulfilled that and I think it is up every year and
you know arguably the charter tells us who should be in this in our code. says the mayor. And I could not be that in the past because the issues internally were in my opinion greater
than the needs for anything our TPO could offer. And so this has been something that I've wanted to do and I have not been.
When we do look at the boards, it is a mayors on many of those seats. Our former mayor Randles stood there when he served. Uh Mayor Hog really sort of did not he didn't take the approach. He sort of wanted council to go and handle those
things. But uh I think anything that I I I can do to help is is going to be positive. I wish you had more confidence in me, Council Member Willis, that we wouldn't take a step backwards as you
quoted, but I'm trying to bring us together as a team to work together and there has been individual efforts that have not given me a feeling that
this is one town, one team, especially on the council. And so the the issues on A1A, the the people, the the things that you
said, the connections you made, the progress you made, the review, I hope you would stay involved as one town, one team to work with me if this council chooses to appoint. And I hope that in the event I was not able to
uh fulfill something that you believe that you would make that known and say, you know, at at the council meeting where you are not seeing improvements and if I'm not making the progress this council feels is necessary, I might be
wrong, but I think I can be removed at any point. And so and I and I don't want to be up there without the council support, but I I was elected to mayor in 2021 and
here we are in 2025. I would have pursued that then. And I think we have benefited greatly as a city when we do have our mayor there and the whole council's working together to to be that representative that we
need. And I think we I will uh give my best to this city to make sure that we get what we need. And um that's all I can offer. I can't promise results, but I know I will represent the city to the best of my ability, and I will never do
anything outside this council supports, whether it be in a resolution, from the words I say to the things I write to anything that I advocate for. So, thank you for what you have contributed,
but this year I'm in a position to do it and I've never had the opportunity to do this. Uh, in my opinion, I did not have the it was not prudent. So I'm today willing this council can decide
uh who they want to appoint and that is all I have to say. So if there's not anything else um council I think typically we would uh somebody would make a motion for the willing
candidates and uh we'll follow the course. I'll make a motion that Mayor Morrison is our delegate for the SCTPO. Um, keeping in line with the
intergovernmental agreement as well as the fact that mayors are doing the representation as the delegates. >> A second. >> Got a motion by Mayor Pro Tim Jackson, a second by council member Shoryak.
Is there any more discussion on the item? >> Uh, let me just clarify that there are only two mayors on the TPO governing board >> out of 20, but I know >> 20 cities though we have
>> Well, there there's also county commissioners. There's there's even more than 20. I mean, you have county commissioners, you have multiple representatives from other cities. I understand >> and I understand and I've voted for you twice, two years in a row for it.
>> Um, but I do think that I sat here and looked at this and I'm like, the mayor of Cocoa Beach is doing this for his city. >> I think that we should give our mayor the opportunity to tab that role since it's defined in the charter that way.
>> I am not arguing against that. I'm just merely saying that I've been able to put us in a position where we could have even more influence. Not that you wouldn't. Uh but it takes time to get there. It takes time to be considered for the
chair of the TPO. It's not something you're just going to be able to walk in there and get. It takes time to be on the uh boards of FDOT advisory committees. That's all I'm saying.
>> Thank you. Is there any further discussion? >> Seeing none. City clerk. >> May prom Jackson. >> Four. >> Mayor Morrison. >> Four. >> Council member Shiaak. >> Four.
>> Council member Willis >> against. Item 13.3 passes 3 to one. Thank you for your support and confidence. I will give you my best and and report back um and and answer any questions here uh
as as those meetings come forward to the city council and work with our city administration, city manager. >> May I ask one question before we leave this agenda item? >> Yes. >> Can we get some kind of reports on what's going on with this going forward?
Because I mean I I have voted two years in a row and I couldn't tell you what we're doing for our city on this and hearing this about the chair position. This is the first time I've heard it. >> I'm not aware about the What is the chair position? >> It's the chair of the TPO.
>> What is the chair? Are you you are the chair? >> I was nominated >> to be on there >> to uh take that position. Um, yes, we've given reports every time we've had reports.
So, and I'm sure Mayor Morrison, you'll do a fine job. I just put a lot into it and wanted to continue. That was it. >> Thank you. I look forward to working with you and we can put discussion items
on uh before those meetings to set expectations and try to equip me with as much information. I I think I can learn pretty uh quickly and I've been paying attention to a lot of the items. I've attended TPO events certainly not involved to the level because like I
said it was not the highest and best use of of my time and today we stand in a position where I'm excited about going out to represent the city. said thank you. Um I think that brings us to item 13.4, one public hearing item. This is
the second uh reading and final hearing on ordinance 072025. City attorney will read it. >> Okay. This is second and final reading of ordinance number 07-2025. An ordinance of the city council of the city of Cape Canaveral, Florida, amending chapter 110 zoning article 8
residential plan unit developments of the city code to update and clarify the procedures and standards providing for the repeal of prior and consistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the code severability and an effective date. It's also a public hearing item since first reading. There
was one change that was made based on the comments um during first reading by the city council and that's a simple straightforward change on the top of page 24 regarding um the maximum height. Um there was one clarification that was
made that the maximum height um of of a of a of a structure or building um shall be um 20 uh sorry 45 ft. So that that was um that clarification was made. The
existing language reads, "Buildings shall not exceed the maximum height allowed in the zoning district in which they are constructed." If you recall uh during the first reading, the RPUD is a zoning district in and of itself. So
that sent one sentence is being modified to say that buildings shall not exceed 45 ft in height. Um with respect to an RPU zoning district if the council were to approve one in the future. I'd be happy to answer any, you know, technical questions you have regarding the
ordinance if you have any. Um, also, um, staff was charged with taking a look at, um, some of the sizes of properties, uh, vacant properties that are around, uh, town. And I think staff provided, um, small little spreadsheet there that
itemizes those properties that exceed, uh, 4 and a half acres. I don't know if your um your microphone's on. >> It doesn't I I hear every word you're saying for the record. Yeah.
>> Sorry. Yes. >> Um Oh my gosh. >> Sorry. >> Give me one second here. Okay. Um uh Tams and Bell's uh community and economic development director. Um this uh K per or Councilwoman Jackson per
your question. Last time we did produce nine vacant parcels. Um only one of them was outside the EEOD. Uh those were vacant ones. Currently there were 615 parcels uh throughout the entire city
that were 4 acres and above. And um so we're talking this ordinance really applies to about 2% of total properties. Okay. So 2% of the total properties and how many were in um
how many were outside of the EEO EOD? >> Uh of the vacant ones only one. the going through the 600 for was a little labor intensive for for the sake of this meeting, but uh yeah, as far as any that
could be uh uh developed currently. >> Okay, tell me that again. I'm sorry. I was >> Oh, sorry. As far as the ones that were there, there there's there were 615 that are already developed. >> Uh the ones that are able to be developed, there was only one that laid outside the EEOD.
>> Okay. Yeah. And that and that spreadsheet is just um an itemized list of um properties that are in excess of 4 and 1/2 ft under common ownership and currently vacant. They don't include um you know currently
developed properties. Correct. There's a there's a second spreadsheet uh that has the much larger list on it that's for everything. Uh that that was a request of um former mayor prom to have the total list of vacancies or total list of
properties as well as >> that's not in the agenda. >> Uh it was a >> separate added >> supplemental. I got I got the supplement our director's talking about but >> this one. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Correct. >> Agree. So would you state that again
city attorney >> you said 4 and 1/2 ft? >> No. Oh the change between first and second reading >> was just to put a maximum height for buildings and structures um at 45 ft. 45 feet is the maximum height in
residential. >> But what did you just say in the last when we were just talking? I I didn't catch. >> I was just I was just commenting about the the the spreadsheet that's in the agenda package, not the supplemental. >> Oh, okay. >> Right. The one in the agenda package is
just vacant. >> Correct. >> Vacant properties that >> Okay. Those are vacant. >> Mhm. >> The supplemental are currently developed. >> Okay. Thank you. Are there any uh more
questions that we can ask or uh city attorney director, city manager technical questions? This is a public hearing item, so we're going to let the public have the opportunity to speak and we can come back and discuss it further. But at this point, want to try to get to
the public. Um, Mayor Prom Jackson, any more technical questions? >> Just one more. >> Yes, please. So literally we have um one that is eligible to be
the four-letter acronym RP UD or however we have it in there. Um there's only one lot that is eligible. Is that cor or one parcel? That's it. Well, with this ordinance, anything that were to be changed to an RPUD would be on a
casebyase basis to be only approved by council. So, this puts more of the stewardship in council's oversight. >> Okay. That's what I was curious. Um, all right. Very good. Thank you. That was my last question.
>> But your question, I want to make sure I know. Are we saying there's only one that the council could even consider based on the language we're approving? >> Well, one RPUD is in a residential zone. Okay. >> The others are in the economic
opportunity overlay. I see >> development district and that means that >> it would be C1 or higher. Am I correct, city attorney? Which means we would have to >> Yeah. the
the the spreadsheet that's in the agenda item is just vacant land. So >> for an RPU um zoning designation, you need to have a residential future land use map designation. I don't see that information on this. I got the I think
we got it in the right hand column. Some of those properties look like they're residential. Others are not residential. So in RP the zoning district map is not static and neither is neither are the parcel sizes for for lands in the city
of Cape Canaveral. Right. So as you know land can be aggregated. So you know while while there are uh vacant properties that today meet the minimum acreage requirement in the proposed RPU.
um other properties could be uh aggregated, reassembled um to meet the minimum acreage. That's number that's number one. And number two, the ordinance would also apply to uh properties with that meet the minimum
acreage that are currently developed if there's a redevelopment opportunity. Um, so I I wouldn't get too fixated on the current, >> you're right, >> state of the parcel sizes. That could change
>> in the future. One of the thing we talked about during first reading is that the RPUD ordinance would provide flexibility, creativity. Um, you never know what some development might do in the future to aggregate land to meet the minimum acreage to do a
creative residential RPUD project. You know, that's to be determined. Um, this ordinance, if it was were passed, it certainly would provide more of a creative incentive for developers. Um, you know, it remains to be seen whether
it will be utilized. The current RPUD ordinance for decades has been on the books and has never been utilized because as you know as I told the council at the last meeting um the current RPUD ordinance is anything but
flexible. It's very very rigid. So, um >> thank you uh for for clarifying that it's uh the data that was provided not static like you said it
and with the council's ability to adjust but it it's valued and was provided because it at least gives us an idea of you know what's possible today and I guess it's theoretically as people acquire properties and they can
merge uh anything could happen. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And um and with this ordinance, it just creates a toolbox for council to have more oversight and help shape high quality, sustainably designed uh designs
with resiliency in mind. Uh so we don't wind up with the same kind of cookie cutter. uh we can be more adaptive and and future focused and our and our uh and and also have that that element of we're to be to reach this designated it
has to come to council to decide even if we want to allow for it anyways. >> Thank you. >> We do have to be reminded that because sometimes you feel like, you know, you're approving a project or something like that. We're just approving the ordinance to even >> give the opportunity. Um
>> that's excellent. Is there anything else? >> Uh just just reiterating and also for um council member Shuryak who um who u I'm I don't know if you had tuned in for the last reading or or if you're familiar with this at all, but uh you know it's a nice kind of trade-off for flexibility
and design yet um more stewardship and control to the city staff and and council uh in order to uh promote quality future design uh in in our city.
Thank you. Let's go ahead and take it to public council. This is a public hearing item. We are doing the second and final reading of ordinance number 072025 residential plan unit developments procedures and standards. We uh revised
it from the first reading to the second. Our city attorney and director went through those changes. And if you intend to speak, we ask you please come forward. Thank you. Long night. Thank you for your work, guys. Uh I had the pleasure of meeting
with the attorney and the city manager in a meeting about a month ago and they told me you had this coming. It's the first time I heard of this afternoon for the last reading. My question is basically the 4 acres. I wonder why you
nailed it down to 4 acres is one question. The second one is you have R1, R2, and R3. And if you were to take Ridgewood to presidential and take the whole block and somebody wanted to do something with the 4 acre criteria, you
couldn't even do it. If you were to take from uh A1A to uh hibiscus which is an area and all this is zone commercial and want to do a nice PUD, you couldn't do it. The 4 acres you are limiting as Miss
King said earlier to big developers. You have to think that an acre in this city is worth one half to$2 million. So, if you want to buy an acre, you've got to buy a bunch of people out, tear their
house down, and go with a PUB, and that's four acres. You couldn't do a city block here. You could do well, maybe the bigger city blocks down the road. And what I was thinking is that the city council wise thinking, looking
forward ahead, that a PED is a very good thing. Vieier's got them, Duran's got them, they're all over the place. and to keep an open mind and not to limit it to a minimal 4 acres or don't talk to us, don't even entertain it, but to open up
the PUDS to future developments. Like I wouldn't mind the house on the property on U Adams Avenue. >> Mhm. >> Okay. The old condo that needs torn down and the lot beside it could be a really nice PUB and it's already zoned for 45
ft and it's R3. Someone could go in there and get real creative, but with four acres, you've limited the creativity. Your own staff tells you there's only one available lot outside of the uh district, the overlay
district. I think you had another name for it, economical development district or something. >> Economic opportunity overlay district. >> Right. So, what I'm trying to say is let's if we want to see the city move forward, >> I mean, you have the fastest growing port in the nation. You're the largest
space station and we have the opportunity to develop the city tremendously and to still keep it a home city, but we need the creativity and uh small guys like myself, 4 acres is just out of reach
and that's why I was wondering where the 4 acre criteria came up. Someone has come to me that has two and a half acres in an R zone and they've asked what I could do and I said right now you can't do anything.
>> Thank you Mr. Burgger. I think uh you called yourself small but you you've done work that I think made a big impact a positive impact in the community and so your opinion is valued and I thank you. >> Yes. Thank you. Is there are there any
other comments from the public? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close uh the public hearing, public participation, bring it back to the council. Um some of those questions we heard the first one is why limit it to four?
Um >> I mean the thought process was simply this. Um the RPUD is is not is not for every every size piece of property. Okay. The current RPUD ordinance has a minimum 10 acre
requirement. This ordinance RPUD is about building neighborhoods, not doing infill housing or small little oneoffs. This this ordinance again is about building neighborhoods. minimum of 15 dwelling
units, minimum size 4 acres. The thought process was to reduce from 10 acres to four to provide more flexibility and opportunities uh for potential developers to build residential neighborhoods,
not one-off small projects. And the small projects are important, but th this ordinance is focused on a different target than again just small oneoff in you know infill development projects or or corner lots and things like that. So
that was the thought process. >> Yeah, I think that is size what we call small might be the what's important because Mr. B rings this is a good point. I mean, it's I mean, just even at a million dollars an acre, that's crazy
that we've got to that point. He said one and a half to$2 million, but it's we all see what what's happened, you know, one acre. It's not a small investment, you know,
it but it's certainly um well, I mean, we had no chance at the 10 acre. Today we're at four which opens it up. Is there another process outside of our PUD? Couldn't the PUD process if you
took a I think you had mentioned Adams or just take any property I guess what would be too small. Are we saying that one acre is too not enough to do what the intent
of this is? I guess that would be my question is um >> that's that's the thought. This is targeted towards building a neighborhood with a minimum of 15 dwelling units. Um so you know when when you start netting
out after doing storm water and and the roads, right? Four four four acres is minimum is is is is probably as low as that you you can probably go. Um, that's just my
supposition. Um, there are other opportunities for mixed use PUDS. That's a different ordinance um that the city has on the books. >> That was it. >> So, but that's a mixeduse where you have a commercial component and a and a
residential component. Um then you have other traditional um zoning designations that allow certainly allow development on on 1 acre, half acre um you know as long as it meets the minimum area requirements for for lot
size under the specific zoning designation. You know again this is I think as the community development director indicated th this this is a tool that has a a certain target. Um not all tools are appropriate for for all
for all parcels. Um the focus is on, you know, again, um trying to create these neighborhoods and sustainab sustainability and and storm water retention and creative design to to try
to make those those small neighborhoods. I'd like to add that with the height maximum that we're including in there, the that ratio to acreage, uh, the building height, you if you had if you reduced it further, then you'd have to go up significantly higher to accommodate 15.
So you >> got to run out of room. >> Yeah. Yeah. So instead of going up, which we're maintaining a height limit, that's where the that's some grounding for the 4acre justification for the 4acre. >> And I think he had mentioned R3. I think
we got 45 foot there. Um, on page 2427, >> Mhm. >> it gives the minimum floor area for square footage and things like this. And you can see with the number of units that we're talking about, this wouldn't
be applicable to too small of a lot. You wouldn't be able to get the dwellings on there. But that kind of corrects itself, right? I mean, that doesn't we're not waving those other zoning. >> I just mean it would fit within the four acres,
>> but if you start looking at less than four acres, >> then you're going to have problems with all of the definition on the code >> because of the the square footage, the setbacks and everything else. So, um, this is a
different thing for density or a neighborhood, a small neighborhood, whereas, you know, we'd have to look at something other than that if you're talking two or three lots and building a little small dwelling community there.
It wouldn't fit in the code. >> I I think that makes sense. I understand that. I never want I mean I think well council member Willis >> council member
>> I think uh you know we we learn a lot when we talk to the property owners and what they're trying to do and I I would say that Mr. Burgger's uh comments is probably not the only one. As we
look at Cape Canaveral, if we do think there's other properties, it would help in in a in a way to make Cape Canaveral offer those more unique things where we haven't seen
development happen. Um it would be a matter of a bringing it back and really we did a major change to this that would just be a number change at that point, right? To to reconsider it because I don't want
that to go unheard and I think if you're um as our director see that there there's some opportunities. I'd be willing to look at lowering it in the future if that's
something that works, but for tonight, do we want to do that? I think we're running out of room and space. Well, I think that that's more of a a
oneoff situation that would need to be brought to council. And I would have to ask our city attorney how it's going on, you know, streamlining our process where those things come to us where we could >> Oh, yeah. We're coming along fine.
Actually, in December, we're having a P&Z meeting. And not only are we having a whole new site plan uh process to streamline it, right, as council directed, we're also have the board of adjustment >> uh proposal out there to um consolidate and designate the board of adjustment
responsibilities to the city council. If both those ordinances get through P&Z in December, the council is going to have those ordinances on first reading for you to consider. And that's, you know, that was the marching orders that you provided is to streamline the process, make it, you know, more um, you know,
appropriate for developers to come in and and not have to go to all these different types of boards, but to streamline it, you're going to have an opportunity to vote on those on in December. And I think that because of that, when we have a situation like we're
discussing with the needs for a a builder that's wanting to do something that's going to improve our city, that going straight from PNZ and it coming to us for decision is going to streamline that process. Um,
it may not fit right now, you know, with the size lot you're talking about into this particular plan, but we shouldn't cut it off at the knees. We need to look at how we can work to provide the opportunity for
people to build better structures. >> Can I ask question? >> Absolutely. We do need you to come up to the meeting unless council. Are we okay with >> Mr. are coming back up here, please. Yes. >> I've been approached twice and both
partials are just under 3 acres >> and there's two of them in particular and they've asked me that they prefer to do housing. And I've told them, you know, candidly with your zoning, it's 15 per acre. So, you have three acres or under, you're going to get 45 units, but
it'd be nicer to do a housing type package. One of them is commercial, too. and they'd rather do something like that, but I said, "You can't can't with the city codes." Are you saying that I can go directly to you with a good plan and and bypass planning
and zoning >> because zoning can't even entertain it? >> No. >> Right now, the way it's set up, >> I mean, the the the council gave direction to take on more of the responsibilities to make final determinations. The planning and zoning board will still function as the advisory board to the council. Well,
that's what I'm that's why I said the four acres. If somebody comes up with a really creative idea, >> we can't do it for less than four acres. I mean, that's and I understand that. That's the code. That's the rules we have to play with. We have to look at
plan B, which is not I mean, your plan B and R2 and R3 is 17t wide. That's the minimal for the interior lots. And you can get 15 on an acre. So you get an acre, you got 15 units, but you're
restricted. You can't get creative and try to turn it into nine. Try to turn it into six and play with it. Do zero lot lines, have sideways garages, get make a nice little community. That's why I'm just trying to wonder why you had the four. And if the four is
what you think is in the best interest of the city, then us out here on the outside. I mean, I've been a resident for over 40 years. We have to live with that with those rules and some of my I'd rather be more creative. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. Yeah, I I think maintaining dialogue with the community no matter what we decide today and if an opportunity that looks like hey you know now that we're looking at it we think we could do
something on and help create Cape Canaveral on three acre two whatever and you know it's same questions well what's the total impact how many does that you know it and I think Um that will be that would be something I'd
be willing to look at and you know instead of those final site plans here in the update from our city attorney being approved by P&Z you know would come to us but I think at this point where we are and the work that our staff and city attorneys put in
the four is sounds like the the best number for now. Uh, and that's not just picking a number four, right? I mean, that's we analyzed it. we saw the impact that it would have and after not
seeing anything at the 10 acre, um I'm saying I'm willing to consider going lower, but I don't know if if I I'm able to do that tonight at where we are in the process. But if it's in a month or two, and to me that's an a smaller
change. take two readings and notice and stuff and we hope to get it right and not have to touch it and it's a success. But I'd be willing to do that um in the future, but that's it. >> Well, and I think zoning has a lot to do with it because we're talking about some
of these lots are in C1 and the commercial zone, some are in the residential zone and that's a different scenario. So, I know this one was brought down from 10 acres to four in
order to form a a smaller neighborhood than 10 acres. We may need to look at what can we do for those lots that are smaller that's not this but something different. >> That's a good idea, >> right?
>> And okay, so I think that would change project. Yeah, I mean that might be another another option. Again, our our focus was on maintaining the purpose and intent of the RPUD which explicitly states that it's for planned residential
neighborhoods and communities. So, we we looked at it from that prism and what this tool is for. Um there may be other ideas for different lot sizes for to add more creativity and get out of the you know traditional uklitian zoning
designations R1, R2, R3. Um but we did not analyze that. I mean our focus was on maintaining the purpose and intent of the RPUD and looking at establishing small neighborhoods and communities. And so, city attorney, if we had
um, for example, our chair of our PNC, if he had a a person that was interested in creative development, we're talking about creative development in one of those areas and it's not an RPU.
um with our new and I'm kind of shooting blind because you've been working on this streamlining the process. Um is there any way we could think of or accommodate a process where that could
be brought up and discussed instead of just nope, it's not in our code since we may need to get creative with some of those. I mean, every every P planning and zoning board uh meeting, they always open it up for public input and see if anybody has any comments about, you
know, all sorts of issues and and you know, we hardly get people showing up and the PNZ board, you know, could could study issues. Um, you know, um, we again, we didn't focus on the smaller parcels for this exercise. We're trying
to keep the purpose and intent the same. >> Right. >> Right. So, that's another issue we could certainly study and um Mr. Burger certainly can come to the planning and zoning board meeting and and request that you know we take a look at that and see what the PNC thinks um and then we
can focus on on a maybe a different type of solution for what what he's talking about. There's never a closed door, you know, as long as M Mr. Russell's been chair and I know Mr. Russell's termed out. Um
but you know, he's always opened the floor and is was receptive to hearing um concerns of the community about um you know, our codes and and and exploring um you know, changes if changes need to be explored.
>> I'm good with this then. I I think it's good and I think we heard some ideas tonight and I saw you shaking your head over there about maybe there is something separate as our city attorney and mayor pro Tim had brought up. Um I hope the conversation continues
Mr. Burger with our city staff and obviously the council's here and um if we can help him I think we can help his dilemma right of this is Cape Canaveral 98% developed you know we're we're kind of here uh I think we we have
to look at you know does this help a lot of properties and and if we can make that happen that's a win-win so that is it we've uh had the ordinance read. We've answered technical questions. We went to the public. Um,
and I should ask if since Mr. Burgger, we let him back, did anyone else want to have any follow-up comments? I want to offer that to everyone. Okay. Seeing none, uh, council, if we're ready, we can make a motion.
I'll make a motion that we pass this with this change. >> The ordinance the ordinance with this change. >> Thank you. >> Seven ordinance of 07-2025
as as written includes the change. >> When you said change, it it is not a change from what we were presented. the change we voted in last meeting that was presented revised today. Okay. So, so that would be as written, city attorney. Yes, sir. As written. >> Okay.
>> To be >> Okay. Got a motion by Mayor Pro Tim Jackson. >> I'll second. >> A second by Council Member Willis. City clerk, is the motion clear? That's pretty simple. Just making sure because
I know we talked through a lot. Any further discussion? Out of state. >> City clerk. >> Mayor Prom Kellum. Oh, I'm sorry. Mayor Prom Jackson four. >> Mayor Morrison.
>> Four. >> Council member Shiaak >> four. >> And council member Willis >> four. >> Ordinance 07205 passes 40. final reading. Thank you all for your involvement and participation on that one. Hopefully, it's a it results in
some positive things for the community. And I that brings us to really the end of our not only our hearing. Uh we don't have any items for discussion that was submitted. Um, but I
just want to say that uh, council member Shriek that the items for discussion are great ways, you know, you might chat with your city manager. Um, but if you just need to get the council's opinion on any ideas that you have. We've had five
minute discussions. We've had seems like five hour discussions sometimes. And uh that has been a wonderful way to sort of get confidence if you got something you want to share and talk through and uh that we don't have any and then
typically we'll do the reports. Is anything you want to report? Our city uh manager did put a uh vacation rental report on here. I don't know if there was any intention to to go over anything with that. >> Uh no no attention uh intention mayor.
uh in the future that will just appear underformational if there and if there are any questions by any council member we'll entertain them but we're just trying to make this a routine report. >> I want to say thank you for putting it together. I mean we've come a long ways
uh from the whole short-term rental and the craziness and that it demands. Um so thank you for everything you've done with task force all the way down the line. Um >> and then we obviously have our monthly
financial report. Are there any I think the intent was just to have these asformational but counselor is there anything we wanted to discuss on those. Item 15 first vacation rental report.
>> We're not approving anything. It's just a a matter of information. >> Mr. Mayor. Yes, council. Speaking of the vacation rental report, um I had a um town hall meeting with several uh
condo association members and u u committees u here in Cape Canaveral and they expressed some interest in uh having the DBPR be updated for um their
condominium associations because they are having difficulty any self-managed condominium association or HOA does not uh have the same access as a managed condominium. So, it's difficult
for a self-managed group to enter information on the DBPR. I had spoken with um at a lunchon with uh Senator Mayfield about the DBPR and I know Mr. Touchberry had mentioned um
some issues with our vacation rentals and the DBPR >> and Mr. Touchberry I' I'd let him know that I was going to submit what uh the HOAs and condo associations had given me to Senator Mayfield's office to see if
they could push something along in changes to make it easier for the HOAs. And uh I also submitted what uh uh city manager Touchberry put together for the DBPR in that they are not notifying us
of when someone gets a license to operate a vacation rental in our jurisdiction. So, we're asking them to update the DBPR to let us know, let city staff know when
a license is applied for within Cape Canaveral. And it's honestly, it is an easy software fix >> if they're willing to look at it. uh where they could just send that notification to our people.
>> Mhm. >> And make it a lot easier for us to know when somebody is applying for a vacation rental here in the city. And I think that uh Mr. Touchberry uh put together a very uh
involved statement on what we needed and u that was submitted. Hopefully they can uh update that for us. So, it can make our staff's job easier. >> How what when you say submitted, what does that mean?
>> Well, I just I just sent an email to um Senator Mayfield's office. Her staff was going to look at it. >> And did you copy anyone? Our city >> Well, the city manager has knows what we're doing, but >> thank you for that update, but I just want to be clear. I mean, these are the
things that I think why are we working independently and not working together? So, seriously, thank you. I think we can if our city manager sends it and says council, you know, go talk to them and push it, that's better. But to me, it's sort of
the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing. It's a good thing. It's it's and I agreed with the city manager, but if I would be very hesitant, I mean, I've just conducted to to send stuff like that. Um, obviously our city manager
can, but I just don't understand why we're not working together on those things or all of us are encouraged to send an update. Um, but I I'll lock arms. Let's do a resolution together or or approve moving forward. Um, but to
me, if I if I ran into Mayfield, I I may have not known that. And so, thankfully, you shared it with me. Um, Senator Mayfield's office obviously is uh just another intergovernmental relationship
and your efforts are appreciated and I hope it's rewarding but it is sort of getting into that area that I think we need to tighten up a little bit. >> Interesting. >> You have the right to freely express but when it's is it as council member Willis
or is it as the city of Cape Canaveral when you submitted it? It was just council member. >> I' I'd love to help. >> Okay. >> And I think we have four others who'd love to help, too. And I think it should be more about the city of Cape Canaveral. Not Mayor Wes Morrison, not
Council Member Willis or any other person. And and I will sign it and I hope we could all sign together or our city manager decides who's been appointed and to to fulfill the administrative duties. I have no issue with anything there. So that's it. Thank
you for sharing that. I have one thing to add. >> Yes, council member Jackson or Mayor Tim Jackson. So, I met with Tamson and her group um coordinated through the city manager to give them feedback on
uh what I knew of how to look for, for example, for the hotel collective licenses >> and things like that. and some and went through the DBPR website with them and showed them some ways that they could
look up to see there's it's there is manual stuff in that process right now. But I wanted to let you know I did after offering on council uh my the city manager did coordinate
that and I did go meet with them just to step through that and gave them some air DNA um information showing the number of rentals out there as well as um we discussed the fact that we've got more
and more of them that are going up for for fail because people are not, you know, hitting their covering their expenses right now in a lot of cases. I believe it. I know you've been watching it and thank you again. I just
want to clarify. Uh, thank you, Council Member Willis. You've obviously advocated. I am asking, can we do that plus also do it as a city? and and and so I I I didn't want that to come out wrong that
we will be if if five emails come in at a minimum and I I know we can streamline that and get it better but it's would be great that we are sort of working together on those
things or at least setting expectation to go Hey, we're always going to independently send things, but those are some really good ideas and I hope it's fruitful. I just I think we can help and by by by working
as a team on on some of those things and that that's it. And thank you for the update. Um, and if you think I'm looking at it wrong, we're all I I'm willing I'm not I don't want to sound I I I'm excited about your involvement. Uh,
and I hope that you know that uh you've been from day one worked hard to get out there, but I just noticed that there was some solo paths that really I'm like cheering that on. But why are we finding
out about it now when we could have helped on the front end? And so, um, that's not the case with what you just shared. It it's just been an issue in the city and I've questioned it and I've transparently tried to commune it, but
communicate it as much as possible. Um, Council Member Willis, do you have any more reports? >> Mayor Perim Jackson. Um, well, I'm just going to make one report. I, as I said, I met with Tamson
and them, discussed a little bit of that. The other thing is I did go to a meeting where, um, Port Commissioner Van, help me with his name, >> Van Vulenberg. >> Van Vulenberg, thank you.
um he spoke about the importance of um really looking at your elected port official. And so I think that that's something that our citizens need to be aware of. That is a true elected
position within a special taxing district that we're a part of. And so as any new elections come up with the port, people really need to pay attention to that spot and make sure that those people that represent them on on the
port commission are people that um they feel good with as a candidate. >> Amen. Thank you. I don't uh have any reports other than a big thank you to all and and I see the
progress and everything that's happening from every department. Just really big things are are getting done and we are further along in our new city managers as far as progress than I even expected. So big thanks to all who make it happen
every day. It does not go unnoticed. I know I don't see it all, but I also don't compliment everything and saying I can get better at that. I'm like at least once a month I'll say thank you and so thank you for everything. I went ahead cuz I wanted to give you the last
council member Shorette the floor if you have any reports. What did you work on this month sir? >> I made it up here and took office. So I made almost made it through a whole meeting so far. That's my report. >> No, we're excited to have you. Thank you. >> Thank you.
City Manager, any reports? Young, >> no reports, mayor. Thank you for asking. >> City attorney, >> I've already updated you. What's going to the planning and zoning board per your direction? >> That's great news. City clerk's office. I got a couple.
>> Yes, we have a report. >> Oh, I'm sorry. We do have a report. Would you go ahead? >> I don't know. >> Okay, I'll take it. My apologies. Um, so we're converting uh laser fish to the cloud >> and uh those dates again December 5th
through the 8th potentially >> where um access to that system will not be available to anyone while we make that migration you know from one to the other. So if that changes we'll certainly keep the council posted. Um,
you never know with technology. They tell you one thing and something happens and now you're going a little bit longer. So >> the 5th, December 5th through December 8th is the >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> estimated window. >> Estimated period, right?
>> I mean, it could change. >> I don't think that's going to be an I mean, if it gets right around the council meeting, that's where we see a spike in people wanting to access the agenda, but >> that's great. I hopefully it's a success >> successful merger. Well, we'll keep the
council posted. We are migrating public records, so it's um it's an important process. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Any other updates? That's a big one. Go to the cloud. >> Did I hear something over here? Somebody
I'm hearing things. It's late. 9:24. Okay. Well, uh I think that that's everyone. Let's go ahead. If there's no objection,