City clerk. Good. We good. >> Good evening everyone. It is 6:01 p.m. Today is February 17th, 2026. We're at the Cape Canaveral City Council regular meeting at the City Hall Council
Chambers located at 100 Pulk Avenue in Cape Canaveral, Florida. I call this meeting to order. And with that, Council Member Sheay King, would you please lead us in the pledge? >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> City clerk, please call the role. Mayor Pro Tim Jackson >> here. >> Council member King
>> here. Mayor Morrison >> here. >> Council member Shiaak >> here. >> And council member Willis >> here. >> City Council, thank you all for being here. Our city staff and all from the
community. Uh we appreciate your time this evening. At this time, we are on item number four to approve the agenda as written or with amendments. Uh I would like to take this time I've just notified the city manager and I think he spread the word and want
to tell the council that I need to leave uh this meeting tonight at 7:00 p.m. So, uh as we're considering this item, approve agenda as written. I wanted to let you know that before this. So, if there's anything uh that we would need
to get to, uh the agenda is uh in front of us. So, if we want to take a minute or two and consider that and if anyone wants to chime in, please. >> Um Mr. Mayor. >> Yes. >> I would like to move the LG discussion
up in the agenda, but closer to the front since we have uh multiple people here for that agenda item. Okay. So, that is item number 10.1. >> Yes, sir.
>> The liqufied natural gas plant. Council member Willis, is that >> That's fine. Any >> That's fine. >> Any issues? Okay. Are there any other changes? So, we're The first one is to
move 10.1. >> If we could move it before that public hearing item. Um, >> is that possible? >> It Yeah. Okay. So, we'll finish. Uh, we don't have any items for action. Uh, move the item for discussion right
after the consent agenda. >> Yes, please. >> Okay. I see where that is. Any concern with it placing it at that point in the agenda? >> Any other changes?
Okay. Look for a motion. I'd like to make a motion to move the agenda item 10.1 to uh right after the consent agenda item.
>> A second. Got a motion by Mayor Pro Tim Jackson, second by council member Sha King. Any further discussion. Seeing none, city clerk, >> mayor prom Jackson >> or >> council member King or Mayor Morrison
>> or >> Council Member Shiaak >> or >> and Council Member Willis >> or. All right, the agenda is approved with the amendments, which brings us to item number five, presentations and interviews. Uh the first presentation is
uh certificates of appreciation to the former board of adjustment members. If you don't mind and you're willing, if you served on our board of adjustment, you're here today, would you mind showing hands? Just trying to get an idea. It looks like we have three
members here. Hello. Thank you all very much for being here. I think just matching up names and faces. Thank you, Mr. Heep, Mr. Brewer, and Mr. Elow all
here. Excellent. Thank you again. So, I will go ahead and bring these forward the uh before doing so. And if you'd like to come forward, each one of you will present them. We can do it as a group one at a time. And if you'd like
to say a few words, you're more than welcome to. On behalf of the city of Cape Canaveral, please accept our sincerest thanks for your service on the board of adjustment. Your outstanding work and dedication on the board has been sincerely appreciated. The city
thanks you for the time and effort given to serve on the board. Your contributions have been worthwhile to help make Cape Canaveral a quality place to live. The city council and staff sincerely appreciate all that you have done. Wish you the best and hope you
continue to enjoy calling the city of Cape Canaveral your home. Thank you. Welcome two. Yeah. also come on in. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. We have a TV cover.
>> Thank you. >> Defend on the team. At this time we are on item number six which is public participation. I do have a couple of cards here. I do see that one of them is noted for item number nine, which I believe is the
public hearing item. And uh just want to confirm, Mr. Oliver, do you intend to speak during the public hearing or would you like to speak now? >> Thank you. John Benton.
>> Okay. If anyone did intend to speak, those are the only two cards I have. Please bring them forward. Mr. Benton, you can go ahead and come forward and speak. Yes. Yes, sir. >> Okay, we know what I'm here for. I want my code reduction here. And you've been putting it off for 12 years. You didn't
let me defend myself in that meeting. and you let a pedophile groomer whose son was claiming he lived in the warehouse on the sex offender site. And now
I'm haven't gotten any response from a request of the text message that you sent the deputy to my house that I received from somebody else was using the n-word.
And you fired the mayor last year or the city manager last year because he was doing it. He erased text. So, what about yours? I haven't heard anything about it. Uh, the city clerk over there, when I talked to her when I came to the
meetings a few months a couple of months ago, she said that she didn't see it. And uh, and then she sent me an email and said, you know, it went in like junk and she had take care of it. She she emailed me about it
and uh I haven't heard from her and I sent her one last Thursday night letting her know when's this going to happen. Has the n-word on it. They're they're up they were the ones up there calling you guys on the phone. Benton's living in his warehouse. Code enforcement's not
doing their job. All the board members they were calling city manager. Well, you just got rid of one city manager last year. You got the other the other one walked out on you with a day's notice. Afraid I was going to come in.
So, I guess you're going to sit up there and tell me I can't get that record. Well, then we all know that you cover up people that uses the N-word because they go to the Catholic church up here. It's disgusting. You don't mess with somebody like me,
man. Kevin, man, letting him testify against me and then wouldn't let me defend myself and I'm a three-time survivor of three schools in Orange County and came forward in 1993 on one of them and he served five of eight years. You
didn't send a reverend to jail in 93 and you let that Kevin man testify after you because he's a deacon up there. already sold them to warehouses and I think people's living up there now. I see the front 4x4 units up there.
Homeless people have their stuff in it is full. So at night, I'm going to imagine that they go back to the back of the warehouses on either side and that's where they're staying at night. So, you might want to send the cops up there about 12:00 if you see them catch them up there because
if I go up there, we're going to have a problem because I'll go up there and get the pictures one of these times after that code after you guys laughed at me in the code enforcement hearing. I brought you in all those people. >> Thank you.
>> You're a Dr. Shannon Roberts. Uh Shannon Roberts, 703 Salana Shores Drive here in Cape Canaveral. And I wanted to first of all on a personal note thank Kay and Molly for rescuing me the other night. I had a broken down vehicle. I just wanted to It was
informal help, but I really appreciated their rescuing me. Thank you. And on that night, uh we had the Apollo to Aremis um sort of opening of that exhibit at the Cave Center. And I just wanted to thank those that organized it.
That would include Molly and Amy and um others, I'm sure, and Brandon. Uh it was an incredible event. It had about I'm going to guess a hundred people there because it just seemed like it was packed. But I just wanted to um mention that as an example of cultural almost a
cultural center initiative on the part of the city that I think is an example for other municipalities actually in the county and perhaps in the state. um that Cape Center has got some wonderful exhibits and I was just so impressed with the amount of uh participation that
night and the amount of work that went into making it so special. NASA was also involved too which was a great partnership. So I just wanted to mention that and also just because of the location of the Cape Center, it brings to mind the significance of that area
between the Cape Center and the Nancy Hansen Center is kind of a gathering place for the community. I know now that we've lost Kate View possibly, it sort of brings to mind the opportunity for the city to possibly rise to this
occasion to develop a really incredible gathering place for the city and that might be an opportunity to to really welcome our residents and guests and so forth because it's such a special location. So anyway, thank you very
much. >> Thank you. Okay, that uh those are the two cards I have and and Mr. Oliver's uh for the future item. Anyone else intended to speak? Please come forward. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close
public participation. Bringing it back to item number seven, managers matters. This is something our city manager has started since he he he first began with us. It's greatly appreciated. It's a great opportunity for him to go through some of the
updates. So, with that, Mr. Touchberry. >> Uh, good evening, council. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, the first item is an update, facilities update with our city hall air conditioners. Um, we did assign um the onto a job to get the air conditioner
installed. We selected a provider. We selected uh the team to install it. And uh we're looking at ultimately what could be upwards of a 16week project beginning now. So that takes us to the middle part of June at the very latest when that project will be completed. Uh
so as we get, you know, closer to start time for that project. You know, we'll definitely let the community know because it's going to involve the displacement of some parking. We're going to have to have a crane in the parking lot. Uh we may have to implement we'll probably will implement a work from home policy depending on the
assignment of the employees in city hall and the type of work that they do. Uh but we'll keep council posted on that moving forward. But we're pleased to to have gotten to this point. If you've been to San Piper Park lately, uh you can see that there's some new playground equipment that has been delivered and
it's pending installation. Uh there was a pre-installed walkthrough that was conducted by our staff members along with the vendor and we're looking forward to all that equipment ultimately being installed there. 7 item 72, we have city personnel update. We've hired three new employees
since our last meeting. Uh Nick Satliff, who's a utilities mechanic, Git Vichy, uh Vichy, who's a code enforcement officer, and we have Astred Guzman, who is a records management specialist. And Astred happens to be here this evening. Astred, if you could wave to council.
Right. She's works for the clerk's office. Yeah. Comes to us with a good amount of experience and we appreciate having her. Thank you for being here, Astred. Um, so personnel rules update. As you know, when I was hired back in August, this was a project that was pending. And just to give you an update,
the final draft has been advanced back to HR with our comments uh for final review and incorporation. and that we anticipate getting that document to the council prior to our next council meeting for your review whether or not it goes on the agenda. It'll depend, but
we want it at least in your hands to start reviewing it. Uh because there are a lot of important policies that you're probably going to want to talk about. And I think what I'll do is I'll engage every one of you after we get it to you to find out when you're most comfortable with putting it on the agenda. I don't want to hit you with it and you're not
prepared to talk about it. But I think it's best to let you have it for a while, then when you're ready, we'll get it on the agenda. So, thank you for that. Uh item 74 is my evaluation. Uh my contract uh states that I'll be evaluated after 6 months. That six-month
time has come. Uh tomorrow is the uh end date for um people to evaluate me. Uh we did a 360°ree evaluation. We put it out there to the community, to our employees, and of course, the council members. Uh we to date have 52 uh
evaluations have come back. That's a combination of uh employees and uh people from the community. Uh so we can get those to the council um after you know once the deadline passes which is tomorrow. Um, and uh, but we're going by
uh, section five of the contract paragraphs and be predominantly paragraph A, which didn't really call for a 360 evaluation, but it's something that I opted to do for the council's benefit so they can get input from the community. Um, I didn't know if the city
attorney had any comments or council has any questions on that. council on the update regarding city manager six-month evaluation due tomorrow, February 18th, and uh we're on the March 17th agenda. We will have it scheduled and go through
it. Any comments on that or question? >> I think I was the first one to get mine in my evaluation. >> All righty. Well, thank you for that. >> Thank you. >> Item 75, information technology services agreement with Canaveral File Fire. I
briefed all of you. uh fire approached us about managing their IT services and we have um drafted an agreement between them and us and uh the city attorney has uh spent a lot of time on it and it is in Canaveral Fire's hands being reviewed
and we anticipate them getting it back. We're looking for a start date of March 1st on that. Um so we're excited to provide those services for those guys. And then finally, uh paid parking update. This was another project that was brought to my attention uh when I
was hired that um we would like to look into that. This is a pay by app, not pay by parking meter. Um and with very clear instructions that residents will not be paying, it will be free to residents. And so we have engaged a vendor uh for
conversation at this point. Um the conver the dialogue is really pretty exciting. uh the features that they offer, how people can pay, uh how we manage the payment. We get all every bit of our fee that we include in our ordinance, and then there's an additional fee that goes to the service
that's provided. There is a provision to determine lack of compliance if people are just parking and not paying. Um but it's pretty um it's pretty easy. The vendor that we're looking at is very large. They uh currently service 36 cities in the state of Florida. They're
the largest in the United States from what we can tell. Uh but we will do our due diligence and we'll do a sideby-side comparison with other vendors to make sure that this is the best thing for us. But I just wanted to give you a brief update to let you know that we are moving forward. My timeline for this
city on this project would be implementation by October 1st to coincide with the fiscal year. We're talking February right now. That gives us time to do our due diligence with other vendors. there is a contract we can piggy back off of with this one
particular vendor which could, you know, mean that we don't have to go out to bid for this service. Uh, but we'll also have to promagate an ordinance. Uh, and I think we'll need at least until October 1st to do that. So, um, that would be my recommended timeline for
this project, but it will coincide with our fiscal year so we can track whatever earnings the city brings in through paid parking. So, I'll I'll be bringing more information to the council on that as we move forward and unless there's any questions. >> I have a question.
>> Those are my matters. Yes, ma'am. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Absolutely, Mayor Perim. >> Um, and you had said you're going to track the revenue for the city. I wanted to ask, do we have any projected revenues from the vendor?
>> We do not. We're at this time. No, we're just in preliminary conversations with what services and the mechanics that you know are applied with those services. >> Okay. And I wanted to make sure I'm going to conf I'm going to say this confirming what you said so that our
residents hear this because we have >> done this. We've been here before. >> Yes. >> Um the residents will not have to pay to park. >> That is correct. So there are two options that were provided to us. One is that we can uh engage them to do it for
us, but they recommend that we just go to a sticker system uh so that we issue a decal to the residents and as they go park, the decal is their pass. They don't have to pay for that. Um and that would be something that we renew every year. We're going to have to determine
how we figure out how if they're a resident. Um, you could say you are okay, but we need to see probably, and this is just preliminary conversation I've been having with staff, go by vehicle registration address. That way, we know that vehicle should have a
decal. If they're a new resident, they haven't converted that over. Then maybe perhaps their driver's license or their voter ID. uh we need to tie them to a physical address in the city and then some other criteria because there will be situations where hey my daughter just
moved back home you know from college and her address hasn't changed yet. We understand that. So we'll do everything we can to work with residents but we do want to avoid um you know misuse of the system too. >> Absolutely. Now, and then my last
question is a more of a request >> for the vendor um so that we can um have some ideas of a similar town since they are in 36 cities here in Florida >> of the revenue generated by a similar town.
>> Absolutely. The list that they've shown me is broken down by the number of parking spaces. So, the larger the mun municipality, uh obviously the more parking spaces. So, there are some smaller communities that have as few as 40 parking spaces. So, um from what
we've been able to determine, there are no cities on the barrier island here in BVAR County that are currently using this particular vendor. Um so, but we'll get that information for you. >> I I just think it'd be good for council to know um just with the history of this
agenda item that I'm aware of. And that was my last thing, Mr. Mayor. Back to you, >> Tim. Thank you. Any other questions on the update? I have one and you might have said it or the the um
the personnel rules update, the timing of the draft when that will come over. What was that again? >> My goal is to get it to you before the March meeting so you can review it. We can have discussion on whether or not it's best to put it on the March meeting, but I'm thinking you would
probably want more time to review it. Um, and then maybe as early as April, but the goal is to get it to you before March for your review. >> Thank you. One question for the city attorney. Once those personnel uh procedures are ready,
is that something the council I think it's is that a charter thing where we would approve it? Looking at trying to find it, but I guess >> the city the city council would um have to enact an ordinance. >> Okay. to repeal the prior personnel
policy and replace it with a new one. >> That's what it was. The other one I remember at the on the cover it says approved by it was a former council and so it's been excellent. Thank you for that update and and that's one looking
forward to I know um >> I know we we've got I think a good opportunity there. So yes, >> you you'd like a >> Yes, if I may. >> Yes, if you don't mind, please come to the podium. Is it in regards to this
issue here? >> Is that what you want? >> Oh, to the paid. Uh, well, we were sort of talking about all the updates. Um, >> may I comment on that or? >> Yes. I don't have any council. Do we have an issue with her? >> I'm sorry. >> Thank you. No, that's okay. I am
concerned from a resident's perspective that um inherent in our analysis that there really be a cost-effective analysis of this as as um council member Jackson mentioned we've been here before and this was something that the
residents their overwhelming reaction at the time was not to have paid parking um as we know and I think if we're revisiting this we have to really do a serious cost analysis of this in terms of how much is it going to Ross the city to administer it. um as was asked, you
know, how much res revenues, many revenues we're going to get from it and also an example of where those municipalities that have used it, what is their rea reception to it? You know, what is their experience with it? So personally, I
think as a resident, we need to do a lot more analysis on whether we want to do this or not because of the administrative cost of it and potentially the confusion of who is administered it or not. I know some people don't like stickers on their cars. In fact, you know, as residents,
they don't have them even in condos because they don't care for stickers per se. So these are maybe intangible dimensions of the cost to our city relative to the benefits, but I really do believe we need to do a serious costbenefit analysis of this before we proceed. I don't think we should take it
as a given that we're going to proceed with this until we give it more thought including, you know, the cost of it, the benefits relative and the experiences of other municipalities whether they've been receptive or not and so forth. So and the cost to our city. I just I know
the last time we really realized it was going to cost us a lot to administer it and I just really am not feeling comfortable that we have that information in front of us right now at least for the community. >> If I may, mayor. >> Yes, please. >> We're we're talking about October 1st
and imple implementation. There are many meetings between now and then. I would recommend a workshop um for consideration so the public can give input. But we'll get every bit of information that's relevant to this decision before the council before you decide. We're way early in this. I'm
just trying to give the council an update. >> Yes. And I know the the implementation this is not something this council's uh decided. I think our city manager is putting the project is is to get ex exactly the pieces of what you're saying. And I know that uh you you were
on the front lines of that last one. >> Well, I wasn't the only one. These are the residents. That was what was the big >> uh persuasive factor. And when I hear it sound like we're proceeding, it really concerns me that we haven't done our due diligence and analyzing the cost and the
benefits of it. >> We will uh most certainly do that. And I'm sure as those uh show up on the agenda for the first time, we'll make sure the residents know about it as well because yes, uh
there are some strong opinions on it for some good reasons and I'm looking forward to some of the new technologies and things that we can do. So, thank you for that update. >> You're welcome. Thank you. >> Because we gave uh Dr. Roberts time, I want to be fair. Uh if anyone else like
to speak on anything manager matters, you could please come forward. Seeing none, thank you again Dr. Roberts and councel. We are now uh I guess about to be a consent agenda before going just want to confirm that's all the question
I had. Are there any others regarding the city manager? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and move to the consent agenda. Item number eight, approval of the minutes. These are January 20th, 2026
regular meeting minutes. >> I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes. >> Second. >> Got a motion by Council Member Willis, a second by Council Member Shoryak to approve the consent agenda item number
eight. Any further discussion? Seeing none, city clerk, >> sorry, mayor prot Jackson. Four, >> council member King, >> four, mayor Morrison, >> four, >> council member Shiaak,
>> four, >> and council member Willis, >> four. Consent agenda item eight passes 50, which now brings us to item for action number nine. We have no items for action tonight. And with the amendment on the
agenda we made earlier in the meeting, we'll now move on to item 10.1, which was placed under public discussion. This is uh now uh going to precede the public hearing.
10.1 is liqufied n natural gas LG plant. Council member Willis. >> Uh yes, thank you. Um I won't read the entire uh summary but um let's we'll hit some of the highlights of it but as we all know there was a recent proposal
given to the port for an LNG or purchase of a property to put put a LNG plant on and this possible development of an LNG production and storage facility along State Road 528 on Merit Island. And even
though it isn't in the boundaries of city of Cape Canaveral, it would with exist within our shared geography, our shared transportation network, and our shared responsibility for public safety, environmental protection, and quality of life. And
proximity alone makes this a matter worthy of discussion by this council and and the community. and residents may express concern about the safety and emergency preparedness and evacuation planning and whether adequate safeguards
exist to protect the surrounding community. And this all sounds somewhat negative, but there is the potential for regional benefits. So, we need to acknowledge that possibility as well. But we need to also understand that with
these benefits, we must be weighed against the risk. And while the city may not have regulatory authority over a facility located outside its jurisdiction, we would share in the consequences of any failure, emergency response demands, environmental
exposure, impacts to the community, and strain on shared infrastructure. And limited control does not equate to limited local impact. And this discussion is intended to ensure that the city of Cape Canaveral remains engaged,
informed, and deliberate. And it allows council to consider what questions should be asked, what information should be requested, and what regional partners and regulatory agencies and how the city should position itself to protect residents while participating construct
constructively in regional conversations. And there I will acknowledge that there's a community meeting hosted by the LNG project energy companies scheduled for Wednesday, February 18th, 2026 from 5 to 7:00 p.m. at the Cape
Canaveral Community Center. And we've asked the Canaveral Fire Rescue to come and give us a pre presentation on the LNG and their preparations, their capacity, their ability to respond to anything. So, I'll turn it over to
Commander Quinn. Chief Quinn. >> Yes. Thank you, Chief Quinn and Deputy Chief Crowley and our entire team being here with us today. >> Good evening, Council. Um, I'd like to introduce Brian Dennison. He's going to give a brief demonstration and um on LG
uh presentation, sorry, not demonstration, um on LG. So, >> that woke everybody up. Good evening, council. Thank you for allowing me to be here tonight. Thank you for allowing me to speak to the the council and to the community about what
LNG is. Um my position and our position within the fire department is preparedness. We want to make sure that we are 100% prepared should this actually go into Merit Island. And I can assure you that all the personnel with Cape Canaveral Fire Department, Canaveral Fire Rescue are 100% prepared.
We have the equipment that we need. We have the education that we need. So, my job here is to just talk about what LNG is and what LNG is not. I have a PowerPoint presentation. There's a couple of videos. It talks a little bit about it. Um, and if anyone has questions, we're here to help with those
questions. Thank you. I think we're u we've got printed copies of the presentation. We're working on the monitors here. And if you just give us a second that I think it >> it is your intent to go through this
with us. I think greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Council, any questions before we get started? >> No, that's right. >> Oh, okay. >> We got it. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Perim.
I think we're ready to go. Okay. So, again, we are talking about liqufied natural gas. If you advance the slides, please. So, what is LG? Advance again. LG is refrigerated natural gas. Um, natural gas comes from fossil fuels just
like coal, just like oil. It's been around since the the beginning of time. first commercial production, first commercial uh use of it was 1959. So we can see that it's been around for many years. Um they transported it for street
lighting in the UK since 1959. The ship that was transporting it to the UK was in service from 1959 to 1972 with never having a loss of product, never having an accident with that product. The biggest reason why LNG is safe or safer
than some of the other fuels is the professionalism of the people that handle it. Professionalism of the crews that carry it. The this the people that work in the facilities. You can go to the neighborhood store. You can pick up a 20 lb cylinder of propane, throw it in
the trunk of your car, and take it home. You can send your 12-year-old kid to the store and fill a 5gallon gas can full of gasoline and have him take it home. You can't do that with LG. requires professionals to handle the product. That's the biggest step in the safety of
the product itself. Okay? It's the same natural gas that people are using in their homes. They've been using it in their homes for many years for heating, for cooking, um things of that nature. Uh there is nothing different about it. The only thing that has changed is the form that
it is in. It is in a refrigerated form and it is a very very cold cryogenic liquid. So we talk about the properties of it. When we look at the properties, it's stored at minus 260° F. At -260°
F in a liquid form, it is not flammable at that temperature. It requires some form of vaporization for it to become flammable. And that vaporization begins at -259°. So as long as it's kept in that liquid state, it is a safe product to move
throughout the community. When it vaporizes, it's going to vaporize and begin to rise. Methane gas is the primary product of it. And methane rises as it warms up. That's the biggest piece of it. It's not like propane that stays close to the ground or gasoline that
stays close to the ground. It liquefies to 1600th its volume. So it's easy to carry it and easy to move it in a liquid state. Again, in the cryogenic behavior of it, it's going to stay close to the ground at the minus 260 degrees. As it
vaporizes, it begins to rise. We can get it to rise more quickly, and the fire department is prepared for that as well as the facilities are prepared for that. The only thing we have to do is we have to warm it up to get it to rise. How do we warm it up? At minus 260°, we put a
water curtain up. The vapor goes into the water curtain and immediately warms up and goes vertical up and away from us. It makes it so that it's safe. It makes it so that it's a much better product in the community than some of the other choices. Current uses right now the marine
industry is using it quite extensively. 2015 I was asked to do some research at the request of some of the cruise lines and some of the oil companies into what LG is. I've been all over the world and gone through what LG is, how it works. I've taught classes for a lot of
different organizations to make sure that people understand what it is and what it is not. We're now moving into uh some of the transportation. You can see some of the transportation models that are up there. Uh one of the biggest ones that a lot of people don't recognize is Florida East
Coast Railway. Florida East Coast Railway has been moving LNG, powering their locomotives with LG since 2017. Most people don't realize that they roll up and down Florida East Coast Railways rail line every day. Um, again, the cruise lines are
beginning to become more and more uh saturated with LG. There's several reasons for it. The safety of the product, the cost of the product, and the environmental impact of the product. Out of all the fossil fuels, LG is or natural gas is one of the safest to the
environment. It cuts down all of the uh the uh pollution uh factors as part of it. Cuts down all of the particulate matter that lands on people's homes, on people's cars, things of that nature. So, it's huge in the in safety of that process.
Now, we're moving into the aerospace industry. I thought for sure there was no way I was ever going to deal with aerospace being in the fire service. I retired after 25 years here with the fire department and now we're moving into SpaceX, Blue Origin, Relativity
Space, uh, ULA, everybody is moving to LNG. Why? Because it's safe, it's operational, and it's inexpensive to continue to use. Direct injection into systems. When they look at it, direct injection into systems. If we have an outage, we have
natural gas coming through our city already. So, if they have an outage, they have to shut something down to be able to uh to continue supplying people with natural gas. What they'll do is they bring an LNG tank trailer in and they pump it directly into the system. When they pump it into the system, they
can get the same pressures and they can run the system for years utilizing these transportation trucks. They bring it in as LNG again in the trailer. It's very safe. They vaporize it. They put it into the system and you can still cook with it. can still heat your homes with it while the system is shut down while
they're doing other repairs. These are a couple of videos. I hope we're able to play them. These are videos that we did. We do training at Port Canaveral on a regular basis with LG product. And when we talk to people, a lot of even the the drivers that are
transporting it have never seen LG burn. So, there's a couple of things as part of this process. I want you to note when the LG lights when it ignites, it's very, very lazy. It's not like gasoline. It's not like propane. Both of those products when they ignite, they flash
almost immediately. LG is very lazy and it burns back to its source. So, when you watch as the fire lights, you'll see it's not an explosive ignition. I think that's one of the biggest things that we have to look at on the safety side for the fire department and making sure that
we're safe as part of the response. >> PDF. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. >> The mayor. >> Next. Again, more videos of things that we've done as part of our training. And that should be it.
>> Is that video not to interrupt somewhere? Is it on YouTube or somewhere you could we could share in the future? See, >> I can sh I can share it directly to the city through a share file and the sh the city can disperse it out to the community so that they have the ability to look at it as well.
>> Thank you. Me too. >> And that's the end of the presentation. >> That is it. Thank you so much. That is greatly appreciated. Council, uh, any questions this time? >> Be assured, there are a large number of
hurdles that have to be crossed in order for this facility to move forward. They have to go through the federal government. They have to go through state government. They have to go through the Department of Transportation. None of that has even begun yet. as they did, as the fire department did when LNG became useful in
the marine industry. Once those things were decided, the fire department went out to community uh groups, to civic groups, to homeowners associations, and did education for all those communities, all of those people. U and I think that's a huge piece is making sure people understand what it is and what
it's not. Our northern neighbor is is the space center and the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, and both of them use chemicals every day. So I think the community is a little more prepared in dealing with chemicals than most other places in the country. >> Would you please
>> Would you please repeat the process that it has to go through for me? >> The process for it to be approved. >> First they have to this the port authority has to agree to selling property. Mhm. >> After they agree to selling property, then the vendor or the the uh the gas
company has to get approval from the federal government, from state government, from Department of Transportation because it's right along the Department of Transportation Highway. Um and then they have to go through the process of approvals for uh
licensing and dispersion and and those types of things. So, it's not an easy project. It's not going to be a fastmoving project. I I do have a question, Mr. Mayor. Um, a couple of questions actually. Is there any odor associated with LG?
>> No, ma'am. LG is odorless. It has to be odorless when it's transported in a liquid state. And the reason for that is the odor that they put in natural gas will freeze and crystallize at cryogenic temperatures at theus 260°. So it is odorless, it is colorless, it is
tasteless, it is non uh corrosive and and it's very safe for the environment. If we if LNG spills on the ground, it vaporizes and goes vertical. There is no reportable quantity as part of that process. >> Okay? >> So it's very safe. >> So this will be transported by truck.
>> It will come in by pipeline as natural gas. It will be liqufied in a process that they have there on the site and then transportation out will be by truck, possibly by ship. I don't know exactly what their their uh their decision is for those modes of
transportation. >> In the state of Florida, do we have any pipeline system that's already carrying LG? >> Not LG? No, ma'am. Um LG is difficult to transport by pipeline because of the cryogenic temperatures. in order to keep it as a liquid, they have to have
insulated and refrigerated pipelines. So, it's transport or transported within the community um in in semi-tractor trailers. Um they do it at Port Canaveral for the cruise ships and they do that via barge and they bring it in in a barge uh so that they're they're
they're loading the ships on the water side instead of the pier side. >> Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. question on the possible hazard and incident slide that talked about that incident that happened in Ohio. And then the next slide about 9% nickel. Was that
related to that issue? Yes, it is. Oh, >> 1944 was the timeline of the incident that happened in Cleveland, Ohio. And when they built the tanks in 1944, we were in the middle of the war effort. >> At that point, they did not have the correct materials. They didn't recognize that the materials were not available to
them. They built the tank out of cold rolled steel. And when they did that, the tank fractured. When it fractured full of LG, it released LG throughout the community. So, it was a devastating incident, but it was also an incident that they learned a lot from, and they
learned exactly what they had to do as part of it. >> Thank you. Any other questions? >> I have one. >> Okay. So, I come from a refinery state with LG
plants on the coastline and I mean it does I don't know about LG specifically, but with a combination of those it does have odors and it has impacted environment and that kind of thing. And I'm not saying LG does. I would have to
dig into that further. Um, so I'm not against LG as someone that comes from a state with a lot of refineries and and energy in general. Um, I'm concerned about the location. And having said
that, I would like to um discuss the actual budget that the city pays for Canaveral Fire Services because the port is utilizing this. The space center will
be utilizing it and we're paying h is it half that we pay of the budget for fire for Canaveral Fire Rescue because now we're going to be paying for services over on Merit Island as well as citizens
for emergency response if this goes through. And once again, um, and I hate to be this way, but once again, here we are with we're what benefit are we gaining from that? Well, we're helping the federal government, you know, push
the space program forward, which help benefits everyone in the US. But once again, we're it feels like we're on the hook for it because when you look at some of the things that we've had as far as our budget, our budget has increased
for first responders and that includes both BCSO and Canaveral Fire. And so I'm concerned about the fact that we aren't we're not driving a benefit. the cruise ships will that use LNG
and so will Space Force and we're on the hook for part of the budget of it. So, um, anyone know does anyone know how what percentage of the budget we pay? >> It's 50/50 on some It depends on the
item. I think like the fireboat as an example by itself on the port >> because that was the use was primarily for the port. They purchased 100%. >> Yeah. So, we have like an oper the budget is a little bit tricky, let's put it that way. But, um, it is 50/50 for our personnel except for the personnel
that are maybe on the fireboat or just strictly tied to the port. They pay 100% of their, uh, salaries and stuff like that. Um, but as far as our operating budget and um, our firefighters here at station 52 and at station 54, it's a 50-50 split. >> That is >> I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. I could >> It's about a 6040 when you look at it
with the personnel that we also have on on the on the port itself. >> Point of order. City clerk. I'm sorry. Could you identify yourself and those who are listening in? >> Yes. Uh Jeff Cwley. >> Thank you, Jeff. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, Jeff, have we if this plant
moves forward, is Canaveral Fire going to look at going to the county for additional funding to or is this something that as that plan is developed, we have to to help pony up on the resources to cover that plan on Merit Island? Now,
>> we would absolutely go and do what we had to do uh in order to staff it if we find that we need more staffing for it. We potentially could have the staffing and the stuff that we have for it, but that's something that's so far down the road and it's it's at the beginning stages that we haven't got too far into that. Okay. >> Um but but I want you to know as as the
fire department, we're in a neutral state on this. We're not forward or against it. So, I just want to make that clear from our standpoint. We're just trying to get some information out there that we know since we have dealt with it. >> Yeah. Understood. And and this is a topic that and I'm I want to thank
Council Member Willis for bringing this to the agenda tonight because it's a topic that a lot of people care about. We know um in our city in the past that even when they wanted to build a little
railway over into that estuary, you know, it was not wellreceived and didn't end up happening. And so as we look at the, you know, these areas that are environmental environmentally sensitive, you know, we
it's it's very emotional for a lot of people here. We like our area. We love our waters and they're already under stress. And so as we look at, you know, things for example, our the fact that we have a new, you know, the renewal of the
lagoon tax, but we have more treated water being emptied into the, you know, into our Indian River and that sort of thing. All of this becomes a combined issue along with adding an LNG plant on
barge canal and the fact that a lot of that area would be mowed down to do it as far as greenery and trees and that sort of thing. So, um, but for me as a council, well, as mayor pro Tim, I want to make sure that
if we're going to start policing the entire count or firefighting in the entire county that we're not on the hook for it because this brings no true advantage to us as a city to have that plant there. And so, we shouldn't be on
the hook for it as you all move forward. And you told me you're neutral. So, I appreciate you telling me that. >> Yes, absolutely. >> But as we move forward, be I'm letting you know how I feel. So, you'll know >> that that is no problem and we'll do what we have to do on our own >> because I I personally don't think we should be paying for everything in the
county personally if unless we receive a benefit for it. So, that's my that's my opinion. >> Helpful. Thank you. >> Any other questions this time? Thank you all very much. Chief Quinn, Deputy Chief Crowley, we appreciate y'all.
>> It is early and that information was helpful. Thank you, Council Member Willis. I'll bring it back to you. >> I didn't know if we had any public comment or anyone wanted to >> uh if anyone We just received that presentation uh
from Canaveral Fire and Rescue. If you do want to speak on this item, Council Member Willis, was discussion item placed. Yes. Can I give it to you? Give it to you. Sorry. >> Yes. You please just state your name.
Obvious. Miss Hodgej. How are you? >> Sarah Hodgej. And um >> thank you. >> I have a lot of information that I've gotten from all over the world with big explosions from vibrations. Well, we're getting the space the starship coming. 10 times more
vibration than we've ever had before. We will pro I have one where a a a a facility was taken out with railroad vibrations next to it, cracked the tanks
and exploded the whole place and they're saying there's no explosions. You need to look on the internet. >> Yeah, I've got >> Miss Hajj, we just asked you directly. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
But they are out there and there's proof all over the world how dangerous LG gas is if it goes, you know, with cracks in the system or vibrations. Um, I'm sorry I didn't even
get anything together because I really didn't want to speak. But uh there is a lot of information that you all need to study before you believe this is not a really dangerous situation. And the LG
gas does emit toxic chemicals. They vent and it goes into the community. In fact, I just bought an oxygen mask to protest this. We're gonna do it next week. And uh this is
not something that you can take that it's safe. It's safer than some fuels. Doesn't pollute as much, but it needs to be in an isolated area away from people, schools, parks, and transportation.
And they have had gas explosions from pipelines. So they do explode, too. So, I'm, you know, I don't have a prepared thing, but I'm very emotional about this. This is dangerous, and you
all need to do your research. Thank you. >> Yes. Thank you. I think that's the uh the benefit of this is starting the discussion item. We can hear concerns and collaborate. Did anyone else from the community want to speak on this matter? City clerk's office, we got the name is
Sarah Hajj. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Hodgej. Thank you for being here. Council, any other comments? Council member Willis, >> just want to remind everybody that uh there will be a presentation tomorrow night at the uh uh comm uh Cape
Canaveral Community Center from 5:00 to 7:00. So, come out, learn a little more from the uh potential developers. So, there there's our opportunity. That is great. Okay, at this time we are
at 657. I would like to uh before that that concludes we move that discussion item uh just before the public hearing. Uh when we return from recess uh we can I think believe go to the public hearing. There'll be one discussion item. I do need to leave at this time
but I'd like to just take at least a 5m minute recess and uh Mayor Pro Tim the gabble will be yours at this time. Uh, I think I just need to sign some things with the city clerk's office. So, let's try to uh reconvene as this council sees fit cuz I will not be here. So, five
minutes I'd say. Thank you. That's And they also cared on spectum searching. Okay, we're we're waiting for our city attorney here. and we'll get started
because he's kind of important in this next agenda item. Need perfection. I'm going to reconvene the meeting and he'll be here in just one moment. Um from our recess we are on agenda item number nine
which is the title ordinance number 08-2025 update to the city's land development and permitting process. Um this was a second reading on this agenda item. However, there's some updates that the city attorney will be able to give us on
this. Uh this agenda item was brought forth with another resolution or ordinance to and it's those two agenda items were put together to streamline our process for permitting and building
within our city. And um our city attorney has got got some updates to this particular agenda item. Sorry, Anthony, I'm putting you on the hot seat. >> I'm sorry. talking to our >> So, I'll pass that over to our city
attorney now. Okay. So this is a second reading of ordinance number 08-2025 an ordinance of the city council of the city of Cape Canaveral Boulevard County Florida relating to the city's land development and permitting processes amending chapter 110 zoning of the city
code to revise the site plan review and approval procedures providing for streamlining the increased uh building height approval process under section 110-624 to require concurrent consideration and approval by the city council during site plan review. Amending chapter 22
regarding the community appearance board to revise the application review process providing for the repeal of prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions incorporation into the code severability and an effective date. It's also a public hearing item. So, uh late last
week we started getting a few comments um from one of the property owners in in the city of Cape Canaveral. their legal counsel is here tonight and I'm sure um he he submitted a speaker card and they intend to um present um the focus of uh
my conversations with um council for the property owner. They recommended some changes. Um I looked at those changes with the city manager and uh we've made some um adjustments to the ordinance.
Um, so there's a few proposed changes that are different than um the the ordinance as it existed in first reading. I have a PowerPoint presentation just to present those changes so um it's clear to council and
hopefully this PowerPoint will be put up and it'll be easier to um see exactly what the proposed changes are. So, while we're waiting for that, I I I heard the the preface to this ordinance.
Um, this this ordinance is intended to um streamline the site plan process and align uh with the city council's goal to do that. Um, in order to to streamline the process, um, we need to make adjustments to the code. Some have
already been made regarding uh concurrent permit approvals rather than um the sequential approvals that the city has had over the years. What I mean by concurrent is to allow applicants um to present multiple development permit
um applications concurrently at the same time. So their projects can be considered holistically and um more of a one-stop shop rather than the current process that is very sequential um and
and has to go through various boards. Um this is intended to streamline the process. this or this ordinance in particular on site plan review is you know the um very important critical piece um mechanism to make that
concurrent review a possibility. So, >> it's on the screen, but it's not over to check into >> Okay, we have tech technology problems. >> Well, hopefully they can pull it up because I don't have a hard copy of it.
it through your email. >> Yes. It's not going into just one minute. So, maybe take a another brief recess while we're waiting. >> Sure. Let's take a brief recess. Let
them work out this tech issue. I must have started too quickly. Let's take five minutes and see if they can work this out. >> Okay. I don't have a Okay. Can we see that up on our screens up here? Okay. Thank you. All right.
We're going to reconvene the meeting. >> Okay. We've just reconvened and back to city attorney. >> Okay. So, um, we have at least a copy of of the PowerPoint presentation. So, the ordinance draft that is in the city
council's package is the ordinance as it existed when the council passed it on first reading. This slide presentation is actually going to go over the the changes that were made um based on the comments that
we received. So when you see um if you go to the first slide >> first slide >> ladies >> so I've already touched upon the purpose of the ordinance. So the first change
and I'm hoping that this makes it simple. Um you'll see the first change is to strike the word potential in red which can you please leave the slide so when I'm discussing the slide that um it stays up so I can because I'm pointing
to it and talking about it. So that's the first change you'll see in the right right hand corner that's on page two of the ordinance. It's in that specific section. So small little uh change to strike the word potential. Next. Next
slide, please. Or just down. I'm not sure if that was the next. >> That says page. >> No, that's >> that says page six. >> That reference is to the um Okay, there
you go. The page six reference on the bottom is page six of the ordinance that's in your package. Okay. So the section that's proposing to be revised has has to do with an application requirement for regular site plan
review. The the original language um was a waste disposal plan um you know describing how all solid waste will be handled on the site. Um the the the language in red is is prop pro proposed
to be stricken and replaced with simply the code references that this requirement is grounded under. So the proposed green is is the proposed addition a it would be a solid waste
disposal plan detailing the location and design of required on-site containers point of connection collection screening and transportation of all solid waste and demonstrating compliance with chapter 6278
division 4 and 86 of the city code the city's solid waste uh franchise requirements appendix A franchise article six and all applicable laws. So the the whole intent of this section was
to require that the solid waste plan be presented as part of the site plan application. This is being more specific because all of those code sections require that information to be submitted um to the city for review as part of um
approval process for a development project. So, so that's that change. The next change, stop right there, up a little bit. Um, there is a current requirement for topographical survey um in the site plan
um application process and there was some language that was added that upon retrospect was misplaced. Um that has to we were requesting that the location of any existing drainage canal, swale or ditch um and related outfall areas be
part of the topographical survey. Um instead that that information is still required but should be part of the engineering data not the topographical survey. So you will see um that um the
print in green um adds that language in more in more detail um under the engineering data section rather than the topographical survey because under the existing code storm drainage information about surface waters is required to be
submitted. All references to floodways conservation areas and ponds um etc. It's all part of the storm water management um sections of the code and is required information to review for development permit applications. So
being a little bit more specific. Um but that's that's what we're proposing there. Then if you just go up to that little next u type in red and finish grades for adjoining roads. That was additional language that was being
proposed to be added. We're we're we're recommending that that just be stricken. Um it's kind of redundant because that's that information requirement does require finish grades for streets anyway. So um we're we're proposing just
to strike that language um from the proposed ordinance and and those changes are on page six and seven of the of the ordinance in your package. Um next stop right there. So this was an again part of the information that's required
a site plan application. Uh we added some language about a landscape plan um showing landscape areas, specimen trees, etc. We're we're clarifying that that request is grounded in, you know, as
required by chapter 102 vegetation, the A1 economic opportunity overlay district regulations and other applicable law. the landscape plan is required to be submitted. Um, but there's, you know, all the detail is in in those sections
of the code. So, we're being a little bit more specific by adding that cross reference. And that's on page seven of the existing draft in your package. Continuing on with the information required um as as part of site plan um approval,
we're adding in in sub paragraph 8 a little bit more uh information um that um the development schedule is required to be submitted as required for a proposed planned phase development
project which may be authorized pursuant to the code. um that's when a development schedule is typically provided as part of the site plan process when you have a phase development project and and phasing has to be um taken into consideration. So we're adding proposing that green
language to add a little bit more clarity to that information request. Um paragraph nine um same concept you know there are times where covenants grants easements dedications and restrictions are required elsewhere in the code
primarily it's as applicable and required for subdivisions of land planned development projects and projects with um shared facilities um and those with those types of projects that additional information um
tends to come up as as as being needed. like shared easements, dedications and things like that. So, um moving on to that sub paragraph um 10 um this was um some language just adding a little
bit more clarity. Um depending on various code sections and and applicable law. Um you can't think of everything in an in an enumerated list of information for site plan approval. There may be other instances when other in relevant
information is required. So we words smmith this this provision and what we're intending is additional relevant information adding language that that clarifies deemed reasonably necessary by the city for the applicant to demonstrate compliance with applicable
provisions of city code and law. So that's a little bit more clear for applicants in the city um to guide when additional information may be necessary as part of the process. Next next slide please.
Um with respect to site plan review criteria, the existing um we we were proposed that that language that's in red. Um now we're proposing just striking that language. um that has the exist the existing code provides all
that language that's not stricken or underlined. The issue of compatibility and in harmony with the with adjacent land uses that's currently in that section and is a explicitly required as
part of the city's comprehensive plan. Um anyway, so we're just proposing striking that um the language in red. Next, please. Um, so some word smithing here. The first um word potentially that's similar
to that first strikeout that we that we we showed under the objective. Um, so we're recommending just striking that language. If you remember at the first reading we were having some we attempted to try to put some clarifying language regarding security plan in there. Um I
think it's it's caused some discussion at the first hearing and and some questions um subsequent to the first reading. Um, at this stage, I think we're just recommending just removing that new language in red um in that
paragraph 10 um and not addressing it at this at this time. Um, the planning and zoning board had recommended adding that testing in in that uh context, but um at this point um we're just recommending just striking that language. It's it's
not necessary um to deal with at this time. on subp paragraph 11 um just some clarification. This is um an existing um uh criteria that's applicable um to
those um you know types of uses that require um you know large large amounts of goods and and product to be um delivered on site. Um, so the what we're trying to get at with the with the language that is in red, um, is to try
to get at the code requirement about off streetet loading spaces. Um, when you have those types of businesses, um, they tend to require loading areas for all the goods and merchandise and materials.
Um the current code is is currently addresses off streetet loading spaces. So we're just recommending striking all that um language in red and adding the language in green that ex cross references um the loading space
requirements under section 110-506 of the city code. um paragraph 12 and 13 for the same reasons um I mentioned in paragraph 10. We're just recommending not even adding
that language about the testing and security plans at this time. Next, please. And those are the enumerated changes um that we're recommending uh be made to the ordinance um that's in
your package. >> Thank you so much, city attorney. I appreciate that presentation. Help us understand the changes as proposed for this second public hearing item. Um council,
um do we have any questions or comments? I do and I don't know if it's just a typographical error or if there's a word here that I'm not familiar with that is used in this context and that would be um item number nine on my sheet where it says whether the proposed site avoids
strike potentially significant adverse odor emission noise and vibration glare and vibration impacts on adjacent and surrounding lands regarding refuge collection service delivery parking and loading signs lighting and other sire sight elements.
Is the word sire? Am I am I not understanding that or is that a typo? >> What page are you on? >> I'm sorry. Well, on the on the the original one that I was given, page nine of 17 would be item number 10. >> Okay. Nine. Page nine of 17.
>> Yeah. Item number nine. >> Item number 10. >> No. Item number nine. Item. >> Item number nine. >> Right. Right. whether the proposed site will have an ad adverse impact on public services including water, sewer, storm water, and surface water management,
police, fire, parks, and recreation streets. >> Mm- No, not that one. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. >> U page nine of 17, and it's item number nine. >> Line 22. >> Thank you. Line 22. And it was would actually be line 24.
>> Okay. So, line 24. It's not on the It's not on the PowerPoint. It's on the original. >> Right. >> Yeah. In the original, we're there's a type there's a typo. It says sire s i r e. We're recommending >> striking sire because it should be sight
and inserting the word site. >> Thank you. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. So, um council, any additional council member Willis? No, I think uh
what Anony's presented is uh fairly self-explanatory. Um seems to be a compromise and um I at this point I think I'm I'm
good with what he's proposing. >> Council member Shoryak, >> I'm I'm good with the changes. >> Okay. All right. Um, and we did have a public comment card on this. Uh, Mr. Oliver, would you like to speak? And I
believe, did you have a presentation or are you just going to >> Thank you. >> Good evening. >> Not, but I can talk. >> There we go. >> Oliver with the Lounge Firm. I'm here representing Ambassador Services. And um
you know, a wise man once said, "Once you've had several people announce support, sit down and shut up." Um but we are in proposal uh or we are in um thankful to the city staff and the city attorney. They did take the time to work
through our concerns and I think that we were able to come together on resolutions that added the clarity that my client wanted to see on this yet still preserving the city's goals of moving into a more streamlined process
that allows um the site plan process to move through efficiently. So, we're thankful to staff for working with us and we're in support of the ordinance as presented tonight. Thank you. Unless you guys have any questions for me, that'd be all I have.
>> Council, do you have any questions for Mr. Oliver? No. >> Thank you, Mr. Oliver. >> Thank you all. >> All right. And one thing that was provided, I'm going to hold it up. Um, and this I'm very happy to see as we
work forward with this agenda item. It's a it's something that staff has put together for us and it gives a it's like a chart a road mapap for um the building process here in Cape Canaveral. And on the new copy that we've received on deis
tonight, it has a star on it that shows the opportunities that the public has to engage with the process to make your voice heard to be able to say whether it's something that you are in support
of or not. So these things are actually very it's very a a great thing in the process because we were really we had things going with multiple boards and things like that. So I'm happy for seeing this graphic that makes it a
little bit easier as well. Um city attorney, city manager, y'all have anything on this one? I think this is consistent with your uh policy objectives. >> And Council Member Willis, did you have additional information?
>> Uh, no additional information. I just I just think it's great to put a decision tree together and uh show the public exactly what the process is, all the steps that go into it and how things get
turned around when they're declined. and I appreciate the uh opportunities to um display to the public every chance that they have to comment on any of the issues. So, thank you. >> You're welcome. Hats off to our staff
for putting it together. They did a great job. >> Yep. That was great job. We're really appreciative of that. Okay. So, I believe if we don't have any other public comments on this agenda item. Okay. I believe we can move to a vote.
City clerk, >> I make a motion that we adopt uh resolution. Uh hold on. I make a motion that we adopt the ordinance um 08-2025 as amended.
>> I'll second the motion. >> I'll second the motion. Okay. Call for the public to be Oh, I'm sorry. >> Did he call for the public to be heard? >> Yes, I did. >> Thank you. >> Mhm. >> Mayor Prom Jackson >> four.
>> Council member King or Council Member Shriak >> four. >> Council member Willis >> four. >> The vote carries 40. Thank you, um, city attorney and staff
for working on that agenda item. We appreciate your help on that. All right. And now, um, we have the last agenda item, which that one's mine. So, I'll go ahead and just keep talking as y'all are probably
thrilled to hear. Okay. So, this agenda item number 10.2 two is the title of the agenda is infrastructure resiliency grant proposal and um discussion. I wanted to have a
discussion and consideration of writing grant proposals for uh state or federal funding for infrastructure resiliency due to launch impacts as larger rockets are introduced into the launch schedule at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in
Kennedy Spaceport. So in summary, in order to prepare for the arrival of larger rockets launching from the spaceport and resilient resiliency of our infrastructure as a city moving forward, council needs to discuss and approve to apply for possible federal or
state grants to strengthen our infrastructure and resiliency for our city via any available grant initiatives like the infrastructure investment and jobs act which provide a direct grants, formula funding to states, and federal
loans for significant infrastructure improvements to potentially update and upgrade our water processing plant, storm water infrastructure, sewage infrastructure or any other mun municipal needs. The legislation is al
is also established the promotion promoting resilience operations for transformative efficient and cost-saving transportation pro which is called protect and that was a comp competitive grant program to
enhance surface transportation resilience against natural hazards including extreme weather and flooding. And the protect program offered both formula funding to states and competitive grants with the federal share for resilience grants generally
not exceeding 80% though it could have been up to 100% for projects carried out by Indian tribes. Um, additionally, the IIJA authorizes building resilient infrastructure and communities program
through a fiscal year 2026 with funding subject to congressional appropriation. There were municipalities that received an estimated 12.7 billion in federal funds for infrastructure projects from
2022 to 2025 addressing transportation, water, and energy needs. And so those grants were are already in process and they've been awarded. But as we look at the fact that
these launches are coming and we are looking at how do we prepare our city, we're here. We're part of the space space u industry itself with the fact that we have workers that live here and we have been part of the history of the
space programs. we need to look at whatever funding or grant that we may be able to um obtain in order to look at how to shore up the things in our community in preparation
for those larger launches. Um, in saying that, I am going to um ask our city manager to give us some information because he's already working on some things in regards to this and I wanted
him to give you an update. Thank you, Mayor Prom, and I appreciate you bringing this item to the council for consideration in that, you know, we always need to discuss alternate forms of funding so that we can protect our infrastructure whether it's underground
or above the ground. And you listed some very specific grants uh for us to um look into. Um we have taken a preliminary look at those and we've determined that the brick grant has been cancelled. It's no longer available for funding. uh that happened back in April
of 25. Uh so we can scratch that one off the list. Uh the other two grants um in particular, the um the protect grant and the infrastructure investment and jobs, both um preliminary review looks like they're focusing mostly on highway
transit and certain port projects. Uh so as we dive into those, you know, one of them has a link to the emergency relief program and that would be the jobs act grant. Um, as we dive into those, we can potentially identify some funding
sources for us to look into. Um, but in the meantime, what we've done as a staff is we have created a tracking instrument for all grants that we have applied for or will um, you know, look into and we'll make sure that we have a master list of those. We can look at it and if
it's applicable or not, we'll keep it on the list. we can revisit them moving forward and we will definitely you know put these uh grants to that list so we can look at them um moving forward. Uh but I would just invite council to have
a good open dialogue here about uh funding what sources you think we should pursue or not. Um as you know gathering data related to um potential vibrational damage is important not just for our below ground infrastructure but above
ground infrastructure and the partnerships that we have established with our community regarding you know how to prepare yourself for potential damage. Um, and the research that we're doing, uh, that goes on in other states, um, California in particular, as we've learned, has insurance policies and
building codes dedicated to seismic activity, which, you know, in one way does, um, parallel potentially vibrational damage. So, we have a lot of research to do uh, to see how we can best prepare our community, but we would also like thoughts from council on what
other sources of revenue as we dive into that as well. Thank you, city manager. And my purpose for bringing this was really to to get council's consensus
>> that they want staff time, staff time to be spent on looking for sources of revenue other than simply our state. And the reason that I'm saying that and the reason that I referenced some of these federal programs is that if we're going
to all be good neighbors, >> we need some help, you know, and that incluses are available for people's residences as well, you know, if there sources available for uh people uh making their
own properties more resilient. And I'm happy that staff has worked so hard on putting some of this information that they've put together so far. So, council, what are your thoughts? Um, do we have any comments, Council Member Willis?
>> Uh, yeah. Well, one of the things we've got to also consider is that we are going to probably need a grant writer. Um because if we're going to go after so many diverse grants, this this can't be something that is
siloed within a department. It's it's got to be in my opinion at a position at a higher level. I think uh the city manager and I briefly discussed that possibility that somebody would be
working directly for him. It's going to require somebody to stay on top of it. Uh it it's going to be a full-time job. Um and with what is happening with our state legislature,
grants are going to be even more competitive. As the potential for property taxes to go away, we are going to have to fight for any grant money with everybody else. Um, so it's it's going to be difficult
and I think uh we need to apply for everything that we possibly can well beyond just things to help with our infrastructure. We we need to go after environmental grants because it we're we're going to have to go after everything. Um and with the possibility
of even losing our u business taxes, we're going to have to find even more. So it it not to not to be gloom and doom, but if everything that the state legislature wants to do is passed, then it's going to make it very difficult for
cities to fund things like this. And we we've got to go after a lot of grants, state, federal, anything. As far as the individuals that need grants, I think it would be helpful to make those
uh available grants, let the public know that they can apply for these because we can't apply for them. >> Absolutely. Understood. But uh they they if we can show them what to apply for, how to apply for it, and when to get it
in u because you've got to you've got to be the first one to the trough here. So in order to get uh any grant proposals uh approved. So I, you know, I think it's very worthwhile to go after
everything we can and uh especially with uh the emphasis on the infrastructure and with the space program and the possible effects that that will have on us. We've we've got to go after everything we can. So thank you.
>> May I say something? >> Yes, Mayor Prom. Um I agree wholeheartedly with what um councelor Willis is saying. Um I just don't I don't know uh how what what kind of a salary we're talking about for a good grant writer and does and we this was
mentioned earlier cost benefit. Okay. Um if we can find a good grant writer who will bring in these grants it'll be they'll be worth their weight and gold for our city. Um, and that's the only question I have is is we can't throw this out there and just offer a minimum
salary. I wouldn't think we would need somebody who knows what they're doing, who has a good track record, knows how to go after these grants. And um, do we have the budget for it? >> Right. Um, Council Member Shoryak,
>> I agree it's a great idea to go after as much money as we can get. Do we know what they're doing in over in Texas where they currently launch the Starship? >> And that's that's something that um the city manager and I um have discussed having a relationship with them the some
of the cities in that area. Now, as I put this agenda item together, and it's interesting with the the discussion on adding a person, adding staff. Um, I really I would like
to hear from the city manager because for our size city, we've got a lot of staff and we've got a lot of talent that have gotten grants. Um and what I was spec and I understand from the state level what council member Willis is
saying. However, we know that as I look at this, yes, there are things that the state um is pushing legislatively that is going to require that we look at our budget and that sort of thing. As we all
saw in an email from the someone in the realtor industry this week, we're positioned better as a city than most of the cities on the barrier island. We were positioned best at because of the
fact that we have short-term rentals to to eliminate property taxes is what this article said. Um the thing that was a little concerning is we were second highest on our general fund. So I think
as we go forward looking at our budget uh before we look at hiring a grant writer, we need to look at how what what kind of things we want to accommodate for moving forward knowing that the state is going to pull some of the
funding on things, possibly eliminate homesteaded property taxes. um and look at things in a different with a different lens because the last two years we've cut the budget and that has put us in a better position than other
communities within the barrier island. And whether we like it or not, we do have 21 I think it was 21% of us are homesteaded in Cape Canaveral out of all the residences. And that
gives a us a tremendous amount of revenue coming in if property tax uh homestead property taxes are eliminated because we that's a small percentage of what we have to to accommodate for. Now having said those things, my thought
process on this is because specifically dealing with vibrations resiliency moving forward with the space program. This program is pushing for these larger launches. Um they're going to be looking
at the Golden Dome. This is a defense situation where we are accommodating for national defense and that's why we have to learn to work together. We need, in my opinion, as one of five, we need to
talk to, and this is another thing I wanted to bring to council is um allowing or giving our city manager the latitude to talk to some of our reps. Okay. Um, the thing that we do have with
our city manager is someone that knows about lobbying from his police department days and police chief days. He knows about appropriations and funding and grants and those kind of things and he has quite a few contacts
is what I found out already in place. Um, and so I would like to give him the latitude to exercise some of those to see what we could get pushed forward for our city.
That may be a grant. You know, it could be an appropriation. And to me, it's important to look at the federal level because we are their neighbor at on federal property. Um, they are pushing this for our nation's
defense. And so we need to work together and we need to protect our city as a whole. So that's those were my thoughts on this is that you know in order to move us forward you know so I wasn't
looking at let's get a grant writer or hire a grant writer and that kind of thing. I'm saying and and I might not have communicated it well but I'm saying grants are one of the things that we can look at working with our reps. um you
know in DC and our senators trying to work with the people involved with that need to push space forward to make sure that we are able to ensure our resiliency.
So council are do you all have a problem with our city manager uh pursuing some of that? I don't. No, of course not. >> If he's willing to, as if he doesn't have enough on his plate already.
>> Well, we had discussed this and I believe you're willing to, but you you please speak for yourself, city manager. >> Well, I'm happy to do as council directs. Um, I think we need more information. It's clear that there uh potential sources of revenue in grants.
I think we first need to determine what actual grants we're eligible for. I think that will determine whether or not there is a need for a grant writer. I love the idea of having a grant writer. I understand that comes with a cost and and so we'll have to see um if that uh
one outweighs the other. Uh currently we approach the grant process as I've shared with you from a more of a decentralized approach. We have staff within respective departments that will seek grants. Uh and if we can consolidate those efforts into one office, one grant writer, and they would
absorb what grants that we're already doing, uh then that would relieve the other staff members uh from those responsibilities. They can obviously work together. Um but that those duties would go to a grant writer, but then we would want to, you know, fill up that
additional time with other grants that they can um that they can pursue. Um we need more data as well. Um, I think we suspect that we're going to sustain, you know, potential vibration damages. Um, and what does that look like for us? And
will there be other sources of revenue available in the event that that happens? This is an evolving business. You know, the space industry is so important to this nation. And what partnerships can we engage in, you know, with uh NASA, with, you know, free
enterprise up there, with commercial space? um what partnerships can we uh initiate with them that could you know benefit the city financially. So I think at this point we have more questions than answers but we need to get out there and get the information so that we
can chart a better course and if the council is open to a grant writer come budget uh time and we we feel like we can justify that then we will present that to you and uh we appreciate the support for that. Thank you, city manager. And you know,
as we move forward, identifying these sources like you're talking about now, it's imperative for us and supporting our nation's security and defense is imperative for us as well. >> Uh thank you. I agree with that. And uh
I did want to uh add one other thing. Um, if we are going to move in this direction and pursue that could result in pursuing legislation, uh, the council in the past has budgeted for a lobbyist or a lobby firm and that should be a
viable consideration for the council now moving forward. Uh, it we need we would need someone to advocate for us in Tallahassee when it comes to whatever item that could only be achieved through legislation. Uh, I'm not saying it's a this year thing. I'm say we need to be
open to those conversations just like being open to a grant writer and if the budget can support that a lobbyist would be very handy in Tallahassee. >> Okay. >> We didn't budget for this year but we have had a lobbyist in the past. >> Right. Understood. Um, so you will be
able to start um with staff, current staff, and get us some information and maybe a a plan in place and then we would be able to look at that and the impacts of that financially
moving forward with our budget. Correct. >> Yes. My my goal would be to task staff to get out there and really scour um what's available from a grant perspective and then come back, you know, as early hopefully as the next council meeting to say that these are
some things that we think are opportunities for us. >> Okay? Because and here's here's my thoughts as we go through the budget process. You know, those things aren't finalized till September. And I and from checking out the latest
EIS, >> it is not licensed. The vessel itself, the Starship is not licensed >> to go to launch yet. And there's actually still the no al no action alternative in that EIS. So the pad has
been la has been licensed for them to build the the launch facility at LC39A, but we have Blue Origin also that's closer to our city. So for us, we need
to move as expeditious expeditiously as possible versus dragging our you know our feet or looking to hire. So, I would like to see what what staff can come up with for us so that we know that we are
moving forward trying to find assistance with this. And I think that it's extremely important to um engage with our federal government because we're trying to be their good neighbor in our
national defense. >> Yes. >> Situation. >> Yes. And so therefore, you know, we need to be considered. In my opinion, it's important to consider us as a location that is historical to the space industry
>> and a community that 100% supports space. >> Yes, we want we want to do the right thing, but when it comes down to it and the rubber hits the road for me, I'm doing this for my constituents.
people need to be able to live in their city and and not be impacted negatively. So, okay. Um, council, any more discussion? Well, this kind of ties in with my report that I'll be giving in a little
bit. Um, but we had the opportunity to meet with Linda Weatherman, who is the president and CEO of the Economic Development Council. And in the course of a conversation I had with her, she indicated that um well actually it was part of her presentation, but we did talk about it personally that that
the Golden Dome is coming and the Economic Development Council is going to go after as much business as possible from that. And I can't help but wonder if there isn't some opportunity there for us to collaborate with the EDC in
that regard. And I'll I'll talk a little bit further about that when I give my report. But I think that we need to keep our eyes and our con contacts with the EDC. I think they can be very valuable to us. >> Well, I know there that with the
meetings that I've gone to with them, I know they're very interested in in accommodating the space industry. Mhm. So yes, >> they would be a a integral part of our relationship building. >> Tomorrow launches here is the EDC's
logo. >> Yes, exactly. Um, council member Shoryak. Nope. Council member Willis. Okay. So, I believe we have consensus that you
all can move forward with that um and get us some information on anything that maybe and maybe we should call it lowhanging fruit at this point. We're looking we've got such a huge basket to look at, but um that's
uh the intent of the agenda item for me. So, do we have I don't have any uh public comment cards on this agenda item. Is anyone wanting to speak? Okay. So, our next um we had our financial
reports and we had the vacation rental report. So, um now council, do you all have any reports that you would like to give? >> Well, as I indicated earlier, I do. >> Okay. Uh, Council Member Kaine.
>> Oh, okay. All right. I'm on. >> You're on. >> I'm on. Okay. All right. Well, I attended the Space Coast League of Cities dinner last month in Palm Bay, and they it was held at the L3 Harris facility, which blew my mind. It's beautiful. And to see what's happening
in Palm Bay, I mean, it's really advanced considerably since the early days of Palm Bay. Let me just say that. And then more recently uh we attended the uh League of Space Coast League of Cities in Rock and um learning more
about the issues as well as seeing some familiar faces from my days when I was involved in the community more specifically with the United Way board. Okay. And also Leadership Boulevard which is now known as lead boulevard. Okay. Last week's Space Coast League of Cities uh guest speaker was Holly Smith.
She's the president of the Florida League of Cities and she's also the vice mayor of the city of Santael. How lucky for her. Uh she's very enthusiastic and her remarks had everyone's attention. I was looking around the room to see if people were, you know, they were paying
attention to what she had to say. Uh she'd be a hard act to follow of given her energy and her positivity. Anyway, the next meeting of the Space Coast League of Cities is going to be in Malibar on March 9th and following that here in Cape Canaveral. We're going to be hosting it on April 13th at the
Rison. I also attended the Economic Development Commission's annual meeting that was held in Coco Village at the beautiful Playhouse. Uh that was last Thursday evening. And now, not to brag on myself, but some of you might remember when I was busy in the community covering social, cultural, and
fundraising events for a twice weekly column I wrote for Florida Today. So during those years I had a lot of opportunities to meet people of influence in the community including Linda Weatherman uh when she first came to Bvard to take the position of director which was then named the Space
Coast Economic Development Council. All right. Today she's the organization's president and CEO and along with her staff and board of directors and I'm reading from this because I don't want to make a mistake has brought Breard in over $1.8 8 billion dollar in capital
investment from more than 50 business development projects just in the past year. She is a powerhouse. She's a diplomat. She's a marketer. She's a negotiator. She's a valuable person in our county. And and
as delighted as I was to see her, I was even more delighted to see Tamson Bell, our economic development person here at the event. She attended by herself. I give her a lot of credit for doing that. Um, and I was I had the opportunity to
introduce her to Linda Weatherman and they chatted back and forth and I encouraged a a collaboration with her. Um, they I took their photo together. I was looking at the weekly uh report. I didn't see it, but she said it'll be in
next week's. Um, and I think this chance meeting gave Tamson and our city a great opportunity to work together with the EDC on future economic development ideas and projects to our mutual benefit. All right. Again, she said she's going after
as much business connected with Golden Dome as possible. Maybe there's something in there for us as well. And the final thing is the the one thing that I took away from that conversation with Linda Weatherman was her observation about our city. She asked
how well you're on council now. How are how do you like it? I said we have a lot of challenges. A lot of challenges. And um we're working, you know, we're keeping a positive attitude, but we're working hard because we have a lot of Goliaths that we're dealing with. And she said, well, you know what? She said,
"Despite the dimminitive size of your city," she said, "you have one thing that nobody else has." And I said, "Rockets." And she said, "Your name, Cape Canaveral. You are known throughout the world. Market it,
use it, make it work for you." So, nobody else can claim it. We own it. And um she added that we can do much with that in finding ways to make it work for us. So I was very very glad to have gone. Tom and I went and um we sacheted around and made you know tried to make
connections and uh I just think that these kinds of opportunities these kinds of events give us opportunities to and as it's supposed to do you know coordinate correlate and um figure out ways to enhance each other's position in
the community visav our responsibilities. And so that's my report. Thank you so much and thank you for attending those meetings for us and representing us as a city. We appreciate that. Um, very interesting and I do think that we have
to, you know, be as active as we can in the different groups in our in our county to ensure that we're not missing things. So, um, wonderful report. Thank you, Council Member Shorette. >> I did the same things Andre Andrea did.
League of Cities and ADC and and Council Member Willis was there as well. >> Um, also, as you know, we attended the groundbreaking for the Lighthouse uh, the G the lighters cabin or cottage. Yes, >> cottage. That was that was pretty interesting. So,
>> excellent. Thank you. >> And you planted sea oats, council member. >> Oh, >> yes. Saturday morning we planted seats. Good day. We had a great turnout. >> That was wonderful. >> Perfect weather. Great weather and then rain the next two days. So, I can't ask a better >> and that's a wonderful thing, too. I was
worried about those. >> Council member Willis. >> Uh, yes. I I also attended the EDC, spoke to a number of business owners that were there um from Titusville, Palm Bay, and Rocklage. uh attended the Space
Coast League of Cities executive board meeting in Rocklage this past month and had a very good conversation. We talked a lot about legislation that we're having to face and deal with as uh
communities and we have to pull together with the rest of Bard County. Uh we're not going to be able to do it on our own. Uh neither will anybody else. So we have to work together with our our neighbors to
ensure that we have uh um our own uh uh voice in Tallahassee that we have uh local control of our city not uh acquiescent to the state. um also
attended like I said the EDC Space Coast League of Cities uh will be attending the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council meeting at the end of the month. I think uh you will be there as well. Um we will be presenting a an
award to uh the city of Cape Canaveral at that meeting and uh I'm looking forward to it very much. Uh and next month, as uh council member King said, uh Space Coast League of Cities will be meeting in Malibar and uh we'll have
another executive board meeting there as well and assume a decent dinner. >> Okay. All right. Well, and uh we were able to uh plant seats yesterday and that was uh that was very u fun getting
to do that for the fifth year in a row. And uh we had a lot more people attending. I think at uh my crossover we had 26 people show up to plant and uh that was that was encouraging because I didn't have to stay there all morning.
So that was good. But uh that was basically it. Thank you. >> Thank you. And Council Member Willis, I think it, this is just my opinion, but I think it would be wonderful um if maybe in March we could get a
legislative update from you with with some of those bills and how far they've gotten so far. It's and I'm the first to admit it's my busy season, so that makes it difficult to keep up with the track of those. And I know that it's a very
important time with those and especially with home rule. >> Well, there's there's about just under 2,000 um bills that directly impact cities. Uh I think um there there's a tremendous
amount of bills out there, but um we're uh we're going to monitor it and I think uh there's going to be some positive uh impacts. I know state Senate Bill 840 will uh alleviate some of that Senate Bill 180
>> mess that happened last year. So, >> uh I'll prepare an extensive report on that. Um I'll be going back up to Tallahassee. Um I it was planned to go this Thursday, but uh Senator Mayfield has not been able to uh make time, so uh
it'll be next week. I'll be going back up there for the Space Coast League of Cities and Cape Canaveral. >> Okay. Thank you. I think that's wonderful. I appreciate hearing that you wouldn't mind doing that. All right. Um and you all heard a little bit of what I
was doing. I've been It's my busy season, so it's been really tough, but um I was over at the lighthouse um keeper the lighthouse keepers cottage dedication. um was really excited to get to deal with that. I did attend um as Dr.
Roberts told us earlier the new event at the Cape Center which is around NASA and it is just that one I really loved as well as the fact my favorite part of that was strange though it was the right
at the entryway and all of the historical pictures from our city and I love that part. I hadn't seen that yet. Um so I encourage everyone to go and enjoy that exhibit. It's really it was
really a wonderful exhibit and a very nice night. Um I have been dealing with some of the things with the vibrational you know situation with the launches and that kind of thing. Uh I was I'm going
to go ahead and say it. I was in Florida Trend magazine this month um in an article written about the space industry and um the the shaking that we we
experience here and what we're doing move trying to move forward and work with all this. So, um I was very happy to be able to participate in that and um it I was happy that it was um I think the article had some journalistic
integrity that was that would have worried me in the beginning. So, um I'm not very good with that. >> You're modest. You're being modest, Mayor Prom. You're on the cover. You have the cover of Florida Trend magazine, which I am given to understand is read by everyone of prominence in
Florida. So, there you go. Thank you for doing this. Thank you. >> Well, I appreciate it. It was really cold that morning on the beach. I'll tell you that. >> I was on I was a frozen icicle, but um the main thing is that we try to protect
our citizens, our infrastructure, our homes, and that sort of thing. And that's really what drives me on that. But I was glad that it was a article that really did the situation some justice. So, um, and thank you, Council
Member King. That's nice of you to say that. Okay. Um, do we have any other additional public comments? >> Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, tomorrow we have the LNG meeting is >> Yes, >> I was going to attend it. I don't know
any other council members. >> I will be there and that LG meeting and I'm going to say this knowing that this is something I saw is not endorsed by the city of Cape Canaveral. It is a an event that the
vendor has rented the space from the Cape Center. And having spoken to the vendor, it is an educational opportunity to learn more about LNG. Uh they will not be taking public feedback. So um you
can go in and take a look at what they've got and possibly speak to some of the employees, but they're not take have they don't have a formal process for taking public feedback on that. So just want to give you that little bit of
information. And is there are there any other events that I should be mentioning that I mention that I'm missing here? >> Well, they they do have um they are taking public comment at two email addresses that are up on the screen now. So, >> okay. Yes. But I mean in the meeting
itself, >> right? Okay. So, city manager, do you have any reports to make? >> No reports this evening. Mayor Prom, >> city attorney.
And have I missed anything? I >> think you went through that agenda pretty efficiently. >> Okay. All right. So, we will adjourn our meeting at 8:18 in the city of Cape Canaveral. Thank you so much for joining us.