Good evening. It is 5:02 p.m. and today is December 16th, 2025. We are at the city hall council chambers, 100 Pulk Avenue in Cape Canaveral, Florida for our community redevelopment agency CRA special board meeting. I call this
meeting to order. And with that, board member Shoryak, would you please leave us lead us in the pledge? >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of Americ. >> Thank you. City clerk, please call the
role. Vice Chair Jackson >> here. >> Chairperson Morrison >> here. >> Board member Shyak >> here. >> And board member Willis >> here. >> Board. Thank you all for being here.
City staff and head into this meeting here. We can approve the agenda item number four as written or any amendments. >> Make a motion to approve the agenda as written. >> I'll second the motion.
>> Got a motion by board member Willis, second by Vice Chair Jackson to approve the agenda as written. Any further discussion? Seeing none, city clerk, >> Vice Jay Jackson, >> four
Sorry. Um, chairperson Morrison >> four. >> Board member Shiaak >> four. >> And board member Willis >> four. >> Okay. The agenda approved as written 40. And we now have public participation. If anyone who is attending today intends to speak. We do ask that you please fill
out a uh speaker card. If so, please come forward. I do not have any cards, but seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public participation. Item number six, consent agenda. We got
one item tonight, approval of the minutes, >> go ahead. Um on the first page just the we got a typo. Um under administrative financial
services director John Deleo's name. >> So we just need to correct that. >> Mhm. If you look, we've got him as D0 L EO.
>> My code name. >> And that might have been the case. >> I don't see it. >> Yes, >> it's on the minutes. >> Oh, that'll do it. >> I see. >> Oh, >> well, I thought we might want to use
your real name. >> Okay. Uh, we only have one item on the consent agenda. I think uh we should probably technically formally pull that, but since it's one, are there any other changes, Vice Chair Jackson?
No, but I did want to let you all know they left a sheet that I had asked for. Um, and it looks like um you got that really quickly, city manager, >> because it's the revenue and expenditure
report and I have wanted an um the actuals and so this is up to September 30th and the actuals will be next month that we get the entire year. Am I correct? I want to make sure I'm right on that. We'll we'll be presenting that
in March when we have the uh the next packet as well as um uh in March we'll be meeting to discuss potential new projects for the CRA as well. Um but right now this particular meeting is for uh uh just meeting our obligation of
posting where we are currently. >> Okay. So, so this the auditors will do a obviously we're in the middle of our audit. So, they will do an audit on the whole city and then they also do a CRA audit and that's what Tamson's talking
about. Then in March we will have a completed CRA audit with the final finals and then that comes to council. >> Okay. Okay. All right. Because I knew I knew we came under budget on some things. So, as I was saying, we're we
definitely came under budget on our CRA. >> That's great. Okay. Ex. >> All right. But I just want to let you know that this is what this is. It was on de for us. >> Thank you. Very helpful. Yeah. 2.1 million roughly on budget, but on the
expenses. Either way, I think we got the one change referencing this document that was provided. There's anything else on the minutes under the consent agenda? If not, looking for a motion to approve, I guess, as amended.
>> Approve the minutes as amended. Second. >> Got a motion by board member Willis, a second by board member Shoryak. Any further discussion? Seeing none, city clerk, >> vice chair
Jackson, >> four, >> chairperson Morrison, >> four, >> board member Shiaak, >> four, >> and board member Willis, >> four. All right, minutes under the consent
agenda. Item number six was approved 40, which brings us to item number seven, the CRA fiscal year 202526 annual report. A presentation of the CR fiscal year 2425, the city of Cape Canaveral Community Redevelopment Agency
annual report. >> Well, thank you for >> Thank you. As mentioned, we are um had posted Oh, thank you. Um as mentioned, this is part of our obligation to post an annual report, a status update on where we are with um with our projects.
So, our report includes um our valuation, our current valuation, which is um around uh 757 million uh in tax revenue from the um uh from the property appraisers office. There's a couple of key highlights uh included in there. Um
and our oh, sorry, excuse me. That's our assessed valuation. And then our current budget around 3 million uh for for uh for projects going forward uh in the report. And you know, I actually just noticed something that I want to make sure for the record that we uh update or
and I should I didn't catch this for clarification, but I preemptively included uh uh uh Miss Sha King on the on the um governing board members. She hasn't been approved yet and I'm not sure if I should have changed that or not.
>> Is it's for the past year. >> It uh Yeah. Well, yeah. So, I think I that'll be a change that I'll make and we'll repost that online. Um but uh but then going forward, we'll make sure that to tighten that up. I got ahead of
myself. Um, as far as the um the uh the report itself, it does include our boundary, our intent and uh and current summary of projects, grants and debts. We uh the the list that is standing are
projects that were only completed or carried or included in 2425. So, um we have a uh the city park redevelopment is carried forward. uh it is on target uh but the the uh remaining
funds will be encumbered and carried forward to the 2526 uh fiscal year. Um our presidential streets master plan our first uh our first street which will be Filillmore goes uh the construction bid we're past the design phase and then our
construction goes out to bid Q1 in 2026. Um we have completed the fire and rescue station. Uh the city park concession stand which came in very significantly under budget. Cheers parks and wreck. Uh and um and we are still in progress with
the Nancy Hansen Center me uh maintenance and any unspent funds are carried over for the for the following year. Um and then Oaklane improvements were also completed this year. And related to the financial incentive grant program, we did uh ultimately distribute
about $50,000 in public private uh requests from businesses and residents to for uh beautifification and restoration uh exterior restorations uh around the community. And so far uh we well we increased the the grant program
from $50,000 to 75,000 and we have received currently this year about $43,000 in request. Not all of those are eligible, but we, you know, we are still reviewing applications and uh and processing. So, those are reimburseable
uh grants that go out to the to private uh uh residents and commercial uh property owners alike. Uh and they have to provide us receipts and up to a certain amount and we then we issue their funds. And we'll have a nice before and after
for for our future meetings. That's great. >> Yeah, >> that program. I think it's been about four or five years now we've done it. And >> when you because we get that report before and after, it's really cool to
drive by and see it, you know. >> Yeah. M making a difference. So, thank you for that. >> Does that conclude the report? >> Yep. That con >> Very nicely presented. Thank you for putting this together. >> My pleasure.
>> Great board. Any comments, questions on this report? >> Of course, I have a question. >> Yes, Vice Chair Jackson. This is really a historic question. Um, as I look at the boundary map, so
it's really to council, probably you all that have been on here for extended number of terms would know. on the um boundary map we see that section that goes almost to
Ridgewood probably it's down to Orange or Magnolia and it's a fairly large section and within that boundary is literally a lot of residential. So, was
that boundary drawn to be able to encompass the C5 for the CRA? I a city attorney might or Tamson I don't want to but I think you were here part of that and uh 2012 I think
>> the first thing the city had to do um to establish a CRA was to do a slum and bite blight study pursuant to the community redevelopment um act and um that's how the boundaries ended up getting drawn um I think the
goal was to identify you know areas uh that meet the definition of slum and blight under the statute um and then draw the geographical boundaries um accordingly. Um, I know the city was at the time was attempting to establish the
largest geographical area possible because of course that would establish a base avaloom tax base at the date of establishment which is the is the basis for generating the revenue for the CRA
right because it's the tiff fund is based on um only it's only generated from the properties within the geographical area of the CRA. So, the goal was to establish it as large as possible. So, there might be some
granular detail on certain areas in the slum and blight report from years ago that might >> I was just curious how it jutted out so far, which makes sense with what you're saying. Um, and then so was there any
zoning changes in that area once it was determined or is it all uh still zoned exactly the same as it was before? >> That's that was a separate question. I mean, it's not related to the drawing of the CRA boundaries. >> Okay. >> I couldn't there's no correlation
between the zoning map designation and the CRA boundary. >> Okay. Okay, Vice Chair Jackson. Um, is there any other questions? Thank you.
And the only other thing I had is that some of the items within the report gives an actual and some don't. So for example, we have an actual
um down on the present Dial Street master plan showing that 298,000 >> page seven that >> Yes. >> Okay. uh was spent, but we don't have on the uh Canaveral Fire Station lightning
pro protection system if it was actually 16,000. >> Yeah. Uh I left those >> if it was a match uh because sometimes it it goes over budget, but then it comes out of the general fund, but that's what CRA funds went towards it.
>> Okay. Yeah. So, but I can clarify that >> if it doesn't have it and it's completed, then it was a match on the budget. Thank you. >> Yes, that's a good clarifying. I'll add that in for for the netit.
And I saw I saw saw our community services director back there, Krenn, when we said we were under budget on the um city park concession stand and that's a big grin
because that's way under budget that we came in. So, thank you for that renovation for that because that's that's amazing. And now we have a place for them. though cuz that budgeted was 315,000 and
it came in at four 4,000. So that's a big deal. >> Yes, it is. >> We were fortunate enough to have an in-house general contractor. >> That's great. >> Yeah. with that much of a savings. Can
we get them one of those electric hot dog roller things so we don't have to have a grill and set anything on fire? >> City attorney, does that address blight? I think >> maybe I'll just donate the hot dog.
>> I do like the suggestion though. That's all I have. >> Okay, >> great. Any other comments, questions from the board? >> Seeing none, want to touch base with our city manager. Is there any comments you have or?
>> Um, no, mayor, but we uh the slum and blight report uh is actually on the website under the community redevelopment area finding of necessity 2020. Um I have the link prepared to send to the council if they'd like to review it.
>> I would >> for that original designation that you were talking about, Mayor Prom. >> Thank you. You appreciate that. Yeah, >> absolutely. No, that would be it. Mayor, thank you. >> Thank you. City attorney. Any comments?
>> We good to go? >> Yes, that's all. >> Great. >> Easy peasy. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you so much. >> Come on forward. You're okay. Perfect timing. You'd like to speak the CRA?
Yeah. We were just uh we just got through item number seven on the annual report, which is really our only other item other than approving the minutes. Um and I see we got a new business annual report, but that's not anything tonight,
right? Or just forthcoming. So, okay. If you'd like to speak on on this item, please come forward and we can get that card from you. Yes. Thank you. >> The report, the 2526 report. Is that what we're talking about?
>> We are. Yes. I >> Okay. Thank you. I'm sorry. Emily, >> the 2425. >> Oh, 2425. I think it still may be relevant. Um the reason I was wanting to ask about that is you know this addresses if I if we're looking at the
same thing the three projects or so that >> I think we're this year and I thought for next year but the bottom line is that I was asking about the civic hope project as an example of what I think would be included in this report and it's a rollover what I would if I
understand the process correctly please teach me if I'm not right on this but I think it's just trying to understand those projects that may not have been approved in prior years if there would be an opportunity to maybe report on rollover projects even if it's just on
hold or whatever and please correct me if I'm wrong because I may not be looking at the context of this correctly. Yeah, I think your point is when we go to page six in the kind of the financial overview in 2223
we had for the civic hub redevelopment uh $64,665 that we spent on actual about the same the next year another 65,000. This year it was not included in our budget. You're saying just because it's
not in the budget this year. Um, is that represented in the report? I don't think Mayor, >> could I help you out on that one, >> please? >> So, in what I know exactly what you're
asking. So um in terms of as we look at what happened in 2425 with um 11K of course that would be a carryover from the previous year the civic hub if you look in this year's budget. Well it's
zero because the civic hub development is no longer part of this budget. There are no civic hub items per se to talk about a civic hub. Now it be be more
about individual items that this council has went to say like redoing Nancy Hansen uh facility what have you. But I know Dr. what you're talking about is if you go back a few years there was this big conceptual thing in these different
parts we would do. um that that stuff is not relevant going forward to our budget because council did not council did not move forward on those they took a different avenue with the nancy Hansen or whatever. So I know what
you're talking about but it no longer exists. >> Well to us it exists. I would speak for the I I'm just if you don't mind just from my perspective. Yeah. I think that when we have major projects like that that we did spend money on for the consultant to give us these wonderful conceptual,
you know, possibilities and I appreciate the council decided not to move forward because of financial considerations at the time, but the concept is still alive from the perspective of all the residents participated in the you know
the suggestion for that and the participation and involvement in that and you know it doesn't become dead to us at all. >> No, I don't mean it that way. I mean, as far I'm speaking as the finance director, there's no monies budgeted towards the civic hub. That's all I'm
saying. I don't that's the council's I don't make the council's decision, but I'm trying to clear it up for you because you see no budget there. So, you're probably saying, "Well, where's it at?" It's because it doesn't I'm just speaking as the finance director. Okay? That's all I'm speaking as. It's not
there. There's nothing in the budget. That's >> I'm speaking more as a resident for the conceptual master planning for the city. And we look for evidences of projects that have been nurtured or maybe put on hold, you know, through the years. And this is an example of one that was very
significant to the community from my perspective of the amount of money that we spent on buying the, you know, the building and the land and having it all poised for development and then it was put on hold and we put the money into the conceptual design. And I hear what
John is saying, but the concept doesn't die. So we look for evidences of where it's still, even if it's on hold, at least it's there. And this is an example of where I would have expected holdover projects whether it be this one or some of the others that we've thought of
through the last >> I can clarify a little bit on that Dr. Roberts. Thank you. Um we uh for that um the design phase was completed the previous year. So it was presented that year and there had been no further updates in this year. So there was
nothing to include and I was under the and I was under the operating under the guidance that there was not any further forward momentum on it. So it's um so I think it's already been presented in the prior year. >> I think >> which is the design but no construction.
Sorry to interrupt. >> I appreciate this. I think I'm just expressing to council that when we have multi-year planning, you know, whether it's approved this year or maybe in the future, we've done this in the past with, you know, major projects like the Cape Center or the community center, you
know, we may have put it on hold for a while, but then we move forward with it. And from my perspective, it's it doesn't die, you know, when it's not in the budget. It's something that I don't know where we see this continuing tag of projects. And I don't want to
overstate my time, but I just am worried that we lose a sense of a long-term projects, you know, because of the short-term year by yearby-year thinking. >> So, I'm I'm just real concerned about this from the resident's perspective because there's a lot of time and
certainly financial investments, conceptual design, that wonderful consult we had, you know, where does that go? It doesn't die and just disappear. And I don't see where we see it. And if we don't put it in as a as
maybe an onhole project represented in these annual reports, then we lose sight of it from what I can say. So I just wanted to express my concern about that because this would be to me part of the master presidential street design. I'm just giving you my perspective. It
certainly is in the presidential street area. So anyway, my two cents worth as a resident, but if we're looking at resident input, staff input, and council input, I'm just trying to represent at least the number of residents that
participated in advocating for this and where does it appear. So we have to ask your cons sort of um approval of some method for us to keep track of these. to thank you for listening and I hope we'll move forward with
multi-year planning in some fashion and a conceptual design that's truly master. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dr. Roberts. Yes, I think as our our finance director and community economic development director stated is
you know this is state requirement uh to report on the 2425 expenditures because nothing happened. and there was nothing to report. Obviously, we still own the property. You're exactly right on some of the uh
from the conceptual plans to some engineering dollars that we spent historically and the desire of the council in this budget was to uh not not to continue to fund it for the current fiscal year. I
think you've made it clear is if not uh don't lose sight of it. What about because we did the five-year CIP and so um we obviously just got through a budget and u I I was actually just trying to find
that section to see I think here it is. So the civic hub this it's in this report because there was obviously requirement historical spend and it was
a line item but when I go to our budget book that we adopted um it's not it's not in we have four CRA items right and so if you go to last year's budget
book it was there I think or maybe the year before did we I know we didn't >> the year before. I'd have to look. >> So, it's been two years in a row, I think. >> Let's see. >> Okay. >> Yeah, because well, it wasn't there for 2425 there. Let's see. Civic
there. We did we did incur actuals of like the doctor was saying 65K >> in 2324, but there was um in 2425, yeah, there was no activity. There was no um um project scheduled uh that had to do
with a civic hub, so to speak. And now this year again, uh, this budget's been passed with no, um, civic hub, uh, you know, dollar amount or no no plan, but there's nothing to say that and and we
have four CRA C um, capital improvement uh, projects in the CRA, like you said, mayor. So that that's what's going on this year. But there's nothing to say that if this council next the following year said now we want to do this. Well then we would file council and do a CIP
for whatever council was looking to develop over here whatever but it doesn't need to be reflected in this budget because council didn't go with some you know didn't say hey four years from now we're going to do this. will that's something you that's your
prerogative what you want to do down the road >> and roughly thank you for that how many more years because it'll continue to show up in our financed the loan basically from the city we've got some more years to service that note on the the acquisition the
>> are we talking about for the building it's just got about I think like six years six years left we're paying about 120k a year >> so at a minimum it's if we didn't have that right to to your point of losing sight right we are going to continue
especially as he said we're going under an audit is servicing that debt and and at least five six more years till that's completely paid off >> and I think uh beyond buying the property um I mean an appropriation a
change within this budget would require some you know figuring out where the money's going to come from what projects we're probably not going to do or do differently um And uh I I do not uh
as one board member here as I do not think I'm interested in making changes within this budget for this year. And we passed uh you know we even looked at the presidential streets master plan and how
that works together. And I know there's some community support for it, but I strongly believe that is not a priority for our city. And I regret buying the property. And I know you and I strongly disagree. I think that was a fundamental
mistake. Uh and so that's my opinion of it. And that's why I voted the way that I I did. And I think that uh it has been it has created value for the city. no doubt that it was not a loss. Uh it's
used for parking. It's been used for our city parade and many other amenities. And so um that that is my thought on it. And I didn't sense that the greater community
uh felt like it was a priority. And a lot of those plans that I think some folks might have got excited about. I think um you know we haven't lost those plans like those are assets of the city those engineered designs and I think it's
important that as we head into the next budget if the council thinks that we can do something there that we don't lose sight of those and consider it. Um, those are my comments and I think uh I'm
taking responsibility as at least one of the the ones who did not think it should be in this year's budget and I appreciate your comments and I do understand um and with everything going on I've even
uh thought about how those funds that we spent just to take it further on that could be repurposed just for something better. And so I'm probably the furthest away on that one. Um, and that's all I have to say, but I will
not stop listening and talking through it uh with you. It was a lot of money that the uh not just to buy it, but I think it was 6 to8 million could be wrong on redeveloping that property. Um
and when you add in the storm water components that it kind of and that was the life of it. You know it was it was going to be focused on you know civic hub prominade was one of the early things. We saw some designs and then we
talked about well uh let's flooding as a priority. We looked at storm water um debated that talked through did some studies and uh maybe as we head into this next year uh we can consider is
there anything that we should be doing differently there and I will listen and take action but thank you for your comments. Are there any other comments uh this time?
>> Um I'll go ahead Since I was involved in the last budget process, we focused that last year or over 2025, we put our focus on renovating what we have because we had ignored this for
years. We had roof leak in Nancy Hansen. We had water intrusion calling causing mold in the building. the building was fine as we found out from our own building um engineer at the time, our building inspector. So, we've focused on
getting our parks right because adding a big huge new facility that we have to pay to maintain when our other facilities we have have been, you know, put off.
it wasn't to me and to the people that I spoke to, it wasn't the right time. The timing, you know, wasn't great for that. Um, now as we look at this report, we see the progress that's been made. We
have we had the tennis players come in during the year. They were upset about the surface of the courts. Now, the courts look great. I was at the Friday Fest during uh the Christmas the holiday in the city Friday fest and was standing
and talking with Molly looking at the Nancy Hansen and one of the tennis players came running up and said and talked to Molly and said, "Oh my gosh, I'm so happy. It looks so nice. Everything is so much better." So, as
long as we're able to maintain things, um I think that's when you look at what else do we want to add? But we were in a maintenance neglect situation after working so hard on getting the C5 up and
running. And so we have, as we see in this budget, we had to address the playground equipment at City Park. We had to address the tennis courts and the the building condition of Nancy Hansen just to continue to have a work
environment for our parks and wreck employees that is favorable to them. And Molly came in under budget on those things which I'm very appreciative of. Um but we still have more work to do. She she has talked to me before and
said, "Yeah, Manatee Park, the pavilion needs to be updated." You know, we put that out to our residents and our visitors to our city and that kitchen is not up to speed and probably more than
that. Um, you know, so we we are look we spent the last year um looking at getting our what we have up to speed in better shape, you know, and that kind of thing. And you've got
to maintain what you have. You it for me it's very difficult to justify adding more in when we haven't had time to do the maintenance at that point. So, um I know that's how we discussed it last
year and the approach we took and there's been progress made there. We've got the playground equipment ordered from I think Molly could tell me otherwise, but I believe our playground equipment for city park is ordered. Um,
we've got the spash splash pad in and the equipment's there and we're waiting for the health department to do an inspection. We've had progress on Nancy Hansen with the roof and shoring up the building so we don't have water
intrusion. And so once we get everything together where things are maintainable once again then we can in my opinion that's when you look at what else do we want to add. We also used that last
budget um for storm water projects on some of it. We've got Thurm Boulevard coming in and I know um uh our board member Willis um has worked on that project and that kind of thing with
funding and everything. But we have areas of our city that's still with an inundating rain will get flooding and we got to make sure that we have those things correct so that we're resilient
because adding more structures when you're having flooding issues to me that becomes dangerous because we don't want to create any more flooding. So, we've had those flooding projects as well that um our capital
improvement projects director and his team have done a great job on moving forward with. So, u Mr. Mayor, I'm I agree or miss Mr. Chair, see I can't switch between the meeting titles
either. Um but I u I somewhat I agree with you because we discussed this last year and um Dr. Roberts, it's not forgotten. It's >> we'll need to I hate maybe we could even bring you a
microphone, but we do need to capture that in the record if you talk. I I don't want to do the back and forth, but to summarize, >> did you get that? >> Yes. Okay. Yeah. So, >> but um yes, we understand it's not
forgotten and and you're wanting a way that it's reported so y'all know that it's still on a burner somewhere instead of even if it's the back burner. >> Any other comments? Are there any other public comments? We
uh open that back up. Want to make sure that everyone had a chance in case you wanted to speak. We are in our CRA board meeting. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and I think move on to uh new business which we have
we finished the annual report. Item six, no new business. The annual report is forthcoming. number eight. And if there's anything else >> any other on the forthcoming report saying she had the eight stricken out so
I don't know if we were going to discuss anything new. >> No, there is no Okay. >> Now that's great. With that, >> I'll make a motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> Right. With that, we'll adjourn the
meeting. >> All right. We'll have