check is he all right test one two here we go one two okay the uh computer if that needs to be logged in thing I think last time mik came in I
don't know the login to just get into the computer that' be the only other thing ask ask that's only for go to meeting if that's yeah operational otherwise I don't need it just turn five on my
phone and then that's 502 okay once he comes back are we ready to go on your side okay typically we do record them but okay all right well if we're ready John are you ready to go I'm ready Council
ready all right good evening everyone today is March 18th 2025 we are at 50:01 p.m. in the City of Cape Canaveral council chambers at 100
PK Avenue in Cape canaval Florida call this meeting to order with that board member Jackson would you please lead us in the pledge IED Al to flag of the United States of America and to the Republic
for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you we are here for our community redevelopment agency CRA board meeting clerk please call the I'm sorry
uh yeah call the role please thank you council member Davis it'll be chair be chairperson because this is the c meeting I Davis it'll be board member oh board member yeah just for the okay I do
apologize we do it board member Davis board member Jackson here board member Kellum here and chairperson oh board member Willis here and
chairperson Morrison here we have a got four out of the five uh board members here thank you for being here we do have a quorum and with that the agenda is before us do we have any changes we'd like to
see or approve as written I'll make a motion we approve the agenda as written I'll second got a motion by Vice chair Kellum second by board member Willis any further
discussion seeing none city clerk board member sorry board member Kellum for board member Jackson here or four sorry wrong thing board member
Willis yes and chairperson Morrison yes sorry about it the wrong all the okay thank you thank you okay we are the public participation
portion of the meeting anyone who would like to speak we you have an opportunity to do so for 3 minutes we do ask that you please fill out a public speaker card at the front when you come in I do not have any up here so if anyone would like to speak um here at the CRA
community redevelopment agency board meeting under public participation please come forward we do not currently have live stream going or two-way participation for this this meeting so with that seeing no hands or anyone coming forward
and no cards we'll go ahead and close public participation which brings us to item number six our consent agenda approval of minutes 6A and B A is for the
September 20th 2024 regular meeting and 6B is for the December 17th 2024 special meeting um thank you Council this is a consent agenda if you intend to pull pull either
one of those 6A or B please let me know otherwise we can approve them together I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda as is I'll second got a motion by board member Willis second by
Vice chair Kellum any further discussion seeing none city clerk board member Jackson for board member Kellum for board member Willis for and chairperson
Morrison for okay thank you so we have a uh I should State on the the record for this board meeting that the consent agenda for both minutes passed 40 and bring this brings
us to the reports section which we have fiscal year 2023 2024 and ual report provided um the agenda item says to receive and file the CRA fiscal year 20232 24 annual report and accompanying
CRA refresher spoke with um this hard uh interim city manager about this and uh I guess it'd be appropriate to give you the floor if there's anything you'd
like to to share with us this um and I don't know if you're the registered agent or the executive director for this but City attorney just to clarify are we John would be appropriate
as the registered agent for the CRA it could be the yeah it could be John okay capacity is inter term city manager and finance director thank you John I think there was going to be a
presentation tonight right yeah mayor there was going to be a presentation however um we'll change in plans the you all have the presentation in front of you we could uh bring you could bring the presentation up uh city clerk if
you'd like um so the audience could see it and really all it is we usually don't present this we usually just provide it to council because it's just a compilation of saying what the uh the mission and overview and the history of
our own uh CRA is and as you go through it it tells you it tells you the board members and just um it's an overview of the accomplishments that happen in 2324 uh and in addition to that so so talks
about the projects that we went through in 23 and 24 it also uh includes the financial report which basically is the budget that's in your budgets books the council already received when we passed the
budget and then it goes on to include the annual audit through September 30th 2024 which is required a CRA audit uh that goes to the county every year and that basically is the entire the entire
report so this isn't anything that uh this board is unfamiliar with because you basically I've seen it all approved all these projects and whatever but this is something that we have to it's part of the mandatory reporting and then it
goes off to the county I believe is it Connor or Zach is it the county it goes to March 31st we have to have it to them okay so it's complete so I don't know if uh the board has any
any um comments on this but one thing is if uh if the board wants to discuss anything in terms of uh going forward what was or what was in 2324 budget in terms of maybe look talking a little bit about maybe the
presidential streets or something like that but if in fact that discussion doesn't take place that you could talk about what expectations are in uh 26 for the CRA that's pretty much
a coverall yeah that's great thank you very much City attorney this is a annual we do this once a year minimum if we and then we cancel meetings but this is the one we don't cancel because we're required by I think
the state each year to do that is there wasn't there a bill I can't or state law that there was a few few things that happened with the CRA was there anything in this last session that impacted us that
we need to know about or I remember uh yeah in the last in the last session there was a there was a new law regarding Special Districts which includes a CRA there are other types of Special Districts but it required this CRA to establish if you
recall um objectives and benchmarks and the CRA established those um so it was in compliance then there's going to be an annual report to measure uh you know to report on how the CRA fared um regard
from a performance standpoint regarding those objectives that were established earlier um or late last year and then you have your annual report and the annual report is a product of the inter local in part part of the inter local
agreement with the County where we're required to report um right CRA activities and also there's a there's um an audit um done regarding the expenditures right and based on the mayor based on the or chairperson based
on the uh projects that took place it's contained within the report for instance like if you're talking about um presidential streets you you could look in there and in the say and and that's what the new requirement is you know at the end of the year you do this as a
compilation of that and so the objective of that would be lead by examples a community to embrace sustainability and resiliency in the design and operation of its facilities infrastructure program Services budget and development through thinking policies ordinances education so and
then what was the performance measurement complete the design and construction of one presidential street so that would be what the you know the objective and the per performance that would be measured this year so um for FY
2324 uh this year the uh redesign of Filmore Avenue is underway so this basically tells you right where we're at on these projects and what the objectives were thank you uh very helpful one of
the just the highlights that this started I guess 2012 it was created and the assessed valuation provided on in the report is very interesting that the the valuation was 230 million and I
believe that was just for the uh after the necessity the map was drawn that that was just the value of I think it was like 56% of the city right right the 230 million was the value of that property and if I read this it's
now currently at 721 million that's correct okay yeah wow board I have some questions yes board member Jackson okay so we had legislation for S
sp1 1242 and HB 991 that is in session I was wondering um if the City attorney has an update on that because that effectively ends has stipulations regarding the last expenditures um forming a new
CRA there was um for example it defines new projects it puts a cut off date for new projects is October 1st of this year and that would certainly impact what we want to do with the CRA we would have to take a look at what type of projects we
want to do going forward because we're working on Filmore currently that's one of 17 or 18 presidential streets that we have um do we really want to um you know do everything that was in the original
Kimberly Horn uh plan and have one street that looks that way knowing we have 17 more that may come in at 1.9 million or 1.2 million we don't know the number yet and how that will impact what
our plan is going forward and so those two bills to me are are pretty important animportant um it says the definition for a new project is any project where there's no appropriation in the cra's
budget for the fiscal year ending September 30th 2025 and that makes me ask does that mean what we already have on tap for this year or could we have a new
plan uh for next year and subse subsequent years for CRA projects because that's if that goes through it's definitely going to impact what we can do and how we spend our money that was Senate Bill
1242 and House Bill 991 the companion bill 9991 okay City attorney anything you I don't know if you're following that one yeah I'm aware of it I haven't um looked it up and followed it lately um yeah it is
important bill for CRA that um you know could have major um impacts regarding projects as the as the commissioner indicated um going forward and mayor Morrison or board
chair Morrison thank you um I spoke with the interim city manager about this in my one-on-one um because of the the fact that the funding and getting any bonds and all of that would have dates attached is what it appears at this at
this point not knowing what the legislation may end up looking like or look like at this today um and you were telling me it'd be hard to get bonds by in place by October 1st is that correct John if you would elaborate on that that
would be extremely challenging based on the process or even if you get a capital Improvement note that could take um 90 to 120 days so you you'd be really you know my thing with this whole whole
thing is I'm I'm sure the Anthony and I will be talking about this soon down the road is yeah I even want to know because I don't think it's been decided yet what the restrictions are because we know we want to do presidential streets and we also know that the city with the money
in the CRA we've already obligated those funds so we have I would think that the $3 million there's got to be this this process where we have the $3 million and they can't restrict I would think they cannot restrict us because we just if we're in the process of a design the 3
million dollars we intend to spend let's just say next year I we got to look at the planning and whatever I'm I'm not involved in that yet but then that would make that would ensure that we have $3 million at the CRA that we could spend on that project but the question is
if you have 16 more streets to do and the city plans on on doing this yeah do we have to secure um loans or or bonds or whatever to to show that we are serious about this so the money flow
doesn't stop from the county so that is the thing and that's not clear right now so I don't think this discussion in Tallahassee or whatever is over yet and and I don't believe so either but I think that we really need to keep an eye on it because it's hard to know without
knowing how this legislation lands um how to proceed forward because you know we may end up looking at it and saying oh they gave us this big huge beautiful scope of work but now it's been trimmed
back as far as you know deadlines of getting bonds and financing in place and all of these things but also as I read through this report and I saw the impact I just was astounded because our
um it talks about the fact that our area is really making more money for the with with the hotels and probably any jurisdiction in bravard county and it lists who benefits from this and we're
the only ones not on the list so if there's CRA funds to be had to make things um you know better for our city I want to make sure with that legislation floating around that we're able to get it get those funds because we're
certainly earn earning the funds for the county the port and everyone else and we need to take advantage of making sure that money is um you know is utilized from the county to us for what
we need it for and I I just excuse me I just want to say that I did talk to the Auditors yesterday and they did not yeah they they did not have a firm update for me either so this thing is still in flux it's fluid and my thought
process um is that we may have to meet more often while this is going on or as soon as we hear the results of that legislation to have a plan to move forward quickly because it puts you in the position as Finance director of
having to scramble to get whatever we need done if that deadline of October 1st happens and that will be a scramble from what it would be and that would be a heck of a a burden to put on all the
cities if if that's the case yeah now um in in line with that discussion it can you go ahead and start you know like if we discussed some planning tonight could you go ahead and
start even though the deadline's not in place moving forward so that you're further along which I know is a tough ask during tax season budget season and everything else so is that a realistic thought process I would I would want to
discuss that I would discuss that with our financial uh adviser that we have uh Jeff Larsson and and you know what I could talk to him because I'm sure he's going to have some real good input because this affects everything he does because you know he does this for several cities so yeah so I could look
into that um I just wish there was more definitive answers at this time but there's not because what we're talking about has not been completely well and understand but they're you know they've been meeting on it and um I have to keep
my eye on it because with what's happening at a federal level if we're not watching this with funding and government efficiency we could end up you know not being able to utilize everything that would be be there for us so that was my
main discussion point Thank You board member Jackson board member Willis uh yeah um I attended the legislative update this morning and the fiscal year ends September
30th not October so um that's less time um but it is the second most concerning legislative issue for the Le cities and that's what everybody's going to be going to
Tallahassee next week to discuss is how we need to uh ensure that our cras are viable um well you know I'm wondering if we just like we did with arpa if we're
allowed to obligate the funds in advance based on a plan that's what I did with the $5 million for arpa then we were covered and nobody could take anything away from I wonder if we could have a similar thing here that's what I'd like to know you know and then we're actually
have a plan work on a plan the next few months and it's sitting there on a shelf obligating $20 million so there you know is that what they're going to say you're got to have it obligated to something specific to
get it I I'm don't know yet I need to know that well I I think we'll find out because they've already made four edits to this legislation so I even though it has passed a couple of committees I think it's still going to be sent back
and edited yeah like on March 11th it pass through Community Affairs 4 to three that committee and it's in the Judiciary so I think we'll keep an eye on it but either way we know that benefits of having it in the plan or in the budget
is only going to I think help and starting you know the the CRA is successful uh from a finance standpoint considering we locked in that 2012 millage rate at the time with the
valuations of the properties and so um there's plenty I think of opportunities for us whether or not presidential streets is going to absorb all of it ongoing uh
we sort of just took our best guess opinion of what we could invest on a big project like that but I would say if we if this does end up not going uh favorably for
us I think we would just want to prioritize which which streets are you know where is the highest and best use I think like we like we naturally would um but I I'll C ly uh keep an eye on it as well
and and appreciate you given an update on your sitting in this morning with the league of cities and and we're getting them from our city clerk's office too some of those updates um also uh board
chair if we're looking at the appearance and we couldn't do all of the streets I would think that we might want to look at discussing that with the community appearance board as to what we want film more to look like
because that's not really our main street but if we go full-fledged with that plan that uh Kim horon had it would look like that but then if we don't do the rest of the streets in the same way we kind of have a
disparity in our look and we know we need to do fil more first because of the flooding so so um I would think I I would like to hear from the community appearance board if we end up having to modify that plan you Vice chair Kellum anything um
no I just had the question about um what board member um Jackson was saying about the impact to to our city um to the county with the uh TDC um funds that go to to the county and
are spent other in other places is there anybody in our city that advocates for us to get more of that money is there a way for um I mean we're the ones that are carry the burden of all this all these
hotels in 1.9 miles is there somebody advocating for us to get more return from from that well I mean in terms of the process uh that would be uh our community
development director would be the person who would be chasing all those types of of things and uh so that's who that's who that would be and uh the cities in the process of uh hiring a community development
director and um we have a few people in place now that are overseeing uh Community Development but in uh the next month or so hopefully we'll have that person on board and yes that would be the person who would be
looking into this and working with the county and what have you yeah oh that's all I have I just I I've been keeping an eye on that the bill too that's going to do
a big devastating things to cities that are depending on the CRA so we'll have to keep an eye on it for sure that's all I have thank you Vice chair Mr chairman yes sir it seems to me that if we if we come out on the short
end with this legislation we would have to pair back what we would like to do on the presidential streets obviously so we could we could just look budgeting we've got x amount that would
go towards it and we do what we can with it um first though solving the storm water as far as we need to go with it and then uh whatever else we just have to look at it in a different light we will see is there anything else
that we need to do the action well do we need a I don't we need to rece accept this or vote uh on anything
I'll make a motion that we accept the report a second got a motion by board member Jackson second by Vice chair Kellum to accept the report any other further
discussion city clerk board member Kellum oh sorry board member Jackson for board member Kellum for board member Willis for and chairperson Morrison four
pass is 40 so with that chairman Morrison um Community Development you can go ahead and tomorrow forward that report to wherever it has to go to County and what have you thank
you thank you that concludes the report section of the meeting we now have eight old business which we don't have any old business I think are loose SS um I will
yep and and then no new business um unless the council has anything they any Loose Ends of old business or new business discuss yes board member Jackson um this really is somewhat it could be old and new business um we have
paid Kimberly horn 223,000 in 2023 2024 for the engineering design um for the Civic Hub and also we spent another 76900 from the contingency fund um for
the design improvements at U on Filmore which were outside of the boundary um so if we end up with this legislation going through will we be able to negotiate with them to use that money or is that just money
lost no the hope is is that any money that was obligated approved in this year's budget you know this is 202 is there for us three 2024 yes yeah the money that's in that budget should I
would have to believe that that you know it this goes to the this goes through 30 September 2024 so the budget the money contained in the budget the couple million dollars that's in there they that would be that's our money I mean now if we don't if we don't spend that
money which we're not going to because we'll probably just get the design and you saw in the report it says the design will be done and then next year you know capital projects uh our capital projects uh director will now begin the the uh
thing of getting the uh uh presidential Street planned that money gets obligated in the next year and there's the question there is that's going to be about $ 1.3 million at least that carries over since
that was obligated here I would I would have to believe that's part of an ongoing project that would not be touched okay now my question is more in the realm of the the we paid for the design yeah for the um I believe
no you're correct I got it yes so we would that's untouch they can't they can't touch it we've already obligated the money and and and' got the the wheels are rolling if we change if we had to change the scope of work because the budget didn't
support the original project that money would still be secured and based on what they're saying when they say if it goes through and says no new projects by one October well this project's already started okay yeah all right thank you
that's that was my question any other comments Council City attorney anything okay well with that looking for a motion to adjourn I'll make a motion to adjourn and I can
just adjourn now right City attorney we don't need to vote after the motion I mean my my view on Robert's Rules is that you can just adjourn that's what I thought I'll second the motion and
adjourn thank you thank you board member Willis and rest of the board we are at 5:35 uh Florida I call this meeting to order the broadcast now stting all attendees in listen only mode