Okay, >> let's see. Okay, we're going to start the bike and pedestrian uh meeting. It's March 11th. It's 9:30. We'll start with the pledge of allegiance. Okay. So, our chairman, Jim Moffett, is
unavailable today. Um, so he asked if I would just run the meeting in his absence. So, I'm going to do that. We have a um I think a not an incredibly lengthy agenda. So, hopefully I'll be able to like u work through that with
you know, in Jim's absence and we can work through things pretty quickly. Um, why don't we start with the roll call? Jerry, could you uh do roll call for us, please? >> Joe Cassidy, >> Joe Cassidy, present.
>> George Dick. >> George Stick, present. >> Steve Bodner, present. >> Gerald Haway, present. >> Okay. Uh, we did have one housekeeping item left over from the beginning of the year
at um each each year. the um committees need to um either elect or reappoint their chairperson as well as their secretary. So Jim was um carried over u
was gracious enough to continue as chairperson for the bike and pedestrian committee. Um Jerry, you've done a great job being secretary um in but we didn't want to do that in your absence and na
name you as rename you as sec secretary reappoint you. So I guess um you know we we do need to go through the formal process. Um I guess I would ask the question you you've done I'm very grateful um for you doing it and actually I was very grateful also for
Joe for carrying on doing the minutes in in your absence. Um, would you be willing to continue as secretary? >> Uh, if elected, yes. >> Okay. So, do we have a nomination for our secretary? >> Nominate? Yes. Secretary Jerry. >> Okay. All in favor of Jerry being
secretary? >> Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Jerry. Appreciate it. Um so I think yeah the next item that is on the on the list is the
um report on working group on bike um e safety. Um, I think maybe because Scott is here, uh, Lieutenant Cresinger and Casey Ratigan from Civic Affairs and Paul Dietrich is
is here as well. Um maybe we take things out of order. Um in that one of the items that we had discussed related to um a working subcommittee with bike and pedestrian was coming up
with a piece of literature very similar to the low-speed vehicle brochure that the city put out um last year. Um the idea being um there's been a proliferation of ebikes as we know over
the past couple of years. Um there's been obvious questions as far as proper operation. Um and uh we'd like to deliver that information to folks as far as where they can ride and uh to try to educate folks regarding that. Um, also
there's been the uh recent legislation that came up regarding licensing, registration, um, and insurance regarding ebikes as as well. Um, with the community that we have and from an education standpoint,
um, it's not always easy reaching out to your audience because we we turn over on such a constant basis within every few days. So, the brochure that had been put out for low-speed vehicles last year, I think was a great way to be able to communicate information to to folks.
City found that to be very helpful. Um, and it's an opportunity to get in um have a pamphlet that can be given out to say uh bike shops that can be put in city kiosks, that could be in convention hall, that could be um at the community
center to uh provide information for folks. um and within a within a a subcommittee and uh Jerry, you've been asked and have graciously accepted the lead in working on that um that project.
Um we know it's not a oneperson project. It involves not just this committee, but um we need help with that project um and to get that one to get the information together, but also it needs to be a joint effort with our law enforcement
community um who are in some ways delivering that information when they come into contact with folks. um also our um tourism and through you know community efforts as far as the interaction with folks and Casey's done a great job
designing uh pamphlets. She worked on the LSV pamphlet as well. My understanding is she has been tasked with helping design and pull together the information that would come up by way of by way of text with a pamphlet. So um Paul, I don't know how you want to do
this. if you want Casey and Scott to come up for us to have a discussion, all three of you to come up, but why don't why don't we have that discussion um or they may be here just to kind of >> they're just here to really ask take notes and take uh help support. But I think in talking with them, I think
really they're going to have to get the information coalesed from that subcommittee group just to kind of figure out the salient points because obviously, you know, we've got a voluminous amount of information and we want to essentially boil it down to a rack card.
>> Yeah. >> You know, so we got to figure out that. So I think, you know, they're not ready to kind of do it. I think we need to kind of put that group together, set up some meetings and um you know, right? >> Yeah. >> That's the way I anticipate this going
is that officers holding a four page for sure. Uh pages one, two, and four are going to look pretty much exactly like that. Page three, which is the a big stop sign like the message is going to be laws change in New Jersey. you must
be age, you must >> right >> this I think that's and it's going to be the essential points you want to put in which are going to be about six or seven >> right and that so I think I think maybe h have maybe one or two of those subcommittee first one to kind of
salientate that then that'll give the team there to kind of put the package together and then a follow-up meeting to say hey is this what we're is this the right path and then then we can start >> finalizing targeting April 14th
as our recommendation as to what what the content should be in that for sure. >> Okay. We we may want to meet before then. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. But you mean to you mean April 14th is your target to have it finalized? You mean? >> Yes. Okay. >> Do we all feel comfortable that the
rules will not change? >> So you documents and and uh I mean you could probably develop what you're going to do and then maybe wait a little bit to The low speed document is undated. There's no date on it. >> No, but I think I think George is
referencing the laws may be changing. >> As of this state and then if the law changes and I think we change the content, not when the law changes. >> That'll just that'll just determine how many we make, how many we print. I mean, I think if they change something, it's going to be prior to the date that they
gave as the final date, what whatever it is, July. >> Yes. >> Well, we have Yeah, we have to follow the state. Uh, but I think the primary message is going to be what the state requires in this this for sure. >> Well, but I think really the the priority is really to be safe and follow
the rule rules. I think that's that's the true that's the true focus. >> It's how to live life, isn't it? >> Yes. Yes. Well, unfortunately we have to tell everybody how to do that and and give them a good guidance. >> Say that would be government overreach. >> But unfortunately we we have to
>> Have you heard anything about possible changes in the law? I don't know. >> No updates yet. I just logged in. I spoke with um so NJMNBC did update their their web page and uh they any new laws that come
out they will email me. So we will be kept up to date. >> And what is the web page again? >> New Jersey NVC Motor Vehicle Commission. Yeah, that's right. They just updated it within between our last meeting. >> So if I could add to that, first off, I
appreciate the email that you sent providing that information, Lieutenant. I'm going to share that with um with with everybody. One of the things I liked about it was you can actually sign up yourself to receive updates and be on their mailing list as well. So I know particularly this group I think everybody's interested in being able to
get that information. Um like I So what I would suggest is is this um we get our contact information. Jerry's heading this up as far as can uh send an organizational email for us
to uh to meet and we can yeah develop that text in the meantime. I see this as a dual opportunity. one advising people as far as what the the law is regarding licensing and registration, but this really is an opportunity for us to get
information out as well as along the lines of reminding people, you know, don't don't ride on the prominade, don't ride on the don't ride on the mall. Um, and there's no reason we can't be incorporating some bike safety in here as well as with e ebike safety. I don't
want to put too much because you could muddle your message, but I think that there's it's probably easy enough to I think we could probably weave some of that in there. >> I think you have to because you still have to remind them that they still have to follow the >> rules of the road for bikes. And I think
that's, you know, as important of because that's really what they're not I mean that's more of the problem that they're not following as anything is if if if they followed >> if they followed the rules of the road and what they should be doing, we really wouldn't be having the problems and the issues.
>> Yeah. >> To be honest. >> Okay. So, um Okay. I guess >> so. So, we'll coordinate and send out the meeting invites and get those meetings scheduled so that we'll get it moving.
>> Okay, that sounds good. So, I tell you what, could Paul, you and Jerry, could you kind of coordinate so you guys are on the same page? >> We'll coordinate the meeting schedule and set it up and >> make sure that everybody that we're working with >> find some common dates and we'll get our
target to have it all completed by the 14th. >> That's excellent. Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you. If there's anything I mean if there's anything that's specifically tuned in at west for West Kate May that we're that should be incorporated in here we should
be including that as well. look at it is that the enforcement aspect of it is these guys it's the same. So we want we want to have the same I mean the same type of and and I trust you guys to have the correct input. >> Okay. Well, here's the thing. Well, I
mean look, we'll make sure everybody has an opportunity to see it. this might the working group may be developing that but um we certainly I mean we're a small enough group as well to be able to share it to everybody to say here's what here's what we're looking at um it's what's been done in the past before you
before we go to production on anything everybody has an opportunity to kind of weigh in as far as look content things of that nature so all right so anything else regarding the the brochure okay and you said you want to
maybe stick around and have a a brief uh we could talk about that afterwards. Okay. Okay. Um Okay. How about um the So, I'm going to talk about the the city openhouse that we're going to be uh
that's going to be conducted. So Kate May is has scheduled a citywide open house for May 20th at that will take place at convention hall take place from 7:00 to 9 uh p.m.
Um the purpose of it is and to kind of give the public an opportunity to talk with meet get a feel for um the different commissions boards and committees that are in Kate May and
candidly it's an opportunity for some of those boards maybe to showcase some of the initiatives that they have been working on um over time but um and it and it's also a chance to for those committees and the commission is to explain the role they play um in Kate
May. So, and it, you know, it would be designed to provide people with a chance to have direct interaction with members. Um, you know, we we do live stream all of our meetings. Um, and people an opportunity to come and and talk at those or see them, but not everybody,
you know, has an opportunity maybe to to do them because face it, this is 9:30 in the morning on a Wednesday, so not everybody has a chance to go to do that. But we would be gathering everybody under under one roof. um and have a chance for folks to just walk up and
have discussions with folks from the different different committees. So there was um recently an organizational meeting regarding the city open house. Um Jim attended it as well as um the chairs from the other the other um
committees, commissions and boards in Cape May. So, I just want to briefly, you know, give everybody an idea as far as what the format would look like. Um, and I guess just what the what the tone of of that meeting would be. Um, it's
it's a it is going to be a city meeting. In some ways, it's not different than a city council meeting. We do need to provide um we're going to be providing notice. Sunshaw sunshine laws are going to imply um but the the it's going to be a generalformational
uh meeting. Um, you know, those boards that uh make decisions on folks, say like planning and zoning on land use decisions, they would be prohibited from discussing specific circumstances that they may be considering during a in a
decision-making process. In other words, they can't give advisory decisions on uh on matters. But other than that, it's an again an opportunity for people to come up and and talk and find out what's blank and you know, what's pedestrian all about. Um, and if there's initiatives or
uh, you know, matters that we want to discuss that are of interest to the public like ebike safety, it's a chance to have that um, have that discussion with folks and at our, you know, at the table for bike and pedestrian, a great opportunity to have this brochure that's
being developed there to uh, to talk with people as well and provide provide that information to to folks. So again going on with the framework um what has been discussed is there would be an opening message from the mayor and
from the city manager. Um each of those uh individuals would um would have a few minutes uh five minutes to give a an opening address um regarding information that they want to provide about the about the city um and their opening. And
then each commission and committee would um have a chance to be up at the mic and address the the group at large have two minutes to present their community purpose uh for their particular group.
Um any initiatives that they are working on or any um any information that they want to share in that in that brief opportunity to address the the full group. And uh it's a companion to each of those groups um speaking or those
chairpersons uh speaking. Um there's going to be a have an opportunity to have a PowerPoint um put together where um each of those groups say like bike and pedestrian would have two slides that we could put information on there as far as that information that um that
we want to uh provide for the public to be able to see while the um while Jim would be addressing the addressing the group. So to give an idea as far as the groups that have been identified that would be uh
have a role in the open house would be um for the Kate May um planning board, the zoning board, shade tree commission, environmental commission, historic preservation commission,
Baypac, MTRA and beach safety. So I think that's the complete list we've identified Casey. So as far as the groups that are going to be said planning zoning shade
tree environmental HPC Bayack MTRA and beach safety and then my recollection recollection is I heard planning and zoning may be having a a joint table. Okay. So um after that I'll call it the pass the mic
session where uh the chair persons have that their two minutes to say their um to address the address the the group at large. Um we would go into individual um table sessions um again be at convention
hall. So uh the room would be set up. So there'd be various there'd be tables set up around convention hall. Each one of those groups would have a table with representation from each of those committees or commissions. Um, and that
would provide the opportunity for uh public members who attend to go up to those tables and have more in-depth discussions with members from those um from those committees or commissions. and also for a chance for the the
opportunity for people in the committees and commissions to get feedback from uh from the public as well. So, um again, that's going to be scheduled for May 20th. Um >> could you mention the time again?
>> Yes, 7 to 9 o'clock. >> So, to 5 to 7? My bad. Okay. 5 to 7. I don't know where I got seven to nine. So, okay. 5 to 7. Thank you. Okay. And we
know it's going to happen because it's already been published in our our new our new uh the new book that that came out, right? So, it's in the visitors guide. So, it says five to seven in there, Casey. >> Okay. I sure hope so, too. So, um
>> yeah, now you're nervous. You got to find it. So, um, look, what does this mean for us? We need to, I guess, come up with that information that we want to have on the, you know, on the slides. It's going to be two slides. Um, and I think we're
looking for that just that general information. We probably can get that information right off the city, the website that describes what the bike uh, the bike and pedestrian committee is all about. But um I mean I would suggest
that we come up with that um sooner rather than later because if I recall we have a hard deadline um as far as providing that information uh to Casey Ratigan who again is working on this particular
project. Casey, when is um what is our uh the date when we need to have the slides to you for um for this? I thought we were talking about sometime a date in April. I know this isn't until May, but >> I was hoping to have them
prior. 14. >> Okay, that could work out actually pretty ideally for us because I think we're not we're scheduled to meet on the 8th. So, we could um one be working on this in the meantime, but you know, my suggestion
would be for us as a group that we walk out of here on the ETH knowing ex knowing what we um the information that we want to have in there. So, >> okay. I don't think this is going to be a heavy lift for us. I really don't. So,
um, we'll we'll work on that. We'll get that together. And I know, um, as I said, Jim was at the meeting, so he's on I think he's kind of taken the lead on this for, you know, for our group. Um, he knows that he's going to be look, he's going to stand up and be giving the
that that presentation. One thing that we would need to discuss is the date of the meeting. um who is going to be I would welcome everybody to attend that meeting. Um the I guess the one
quirk to the whole process is I think there's been a discussion as far as whether to make to make sure that we don't necessarily have a quorum at each individual table um during those breakout sessions. there's instructions
coming from our clerk because although um because because we won't be able to record everything that's taking place at at at those at those sessions. So if it means that we um end up switching out folks during the course of that short
period of time that we're at at those tables, you know, that's what we do. So um we can manage that on our own. We're not the world's, you know, we're not the largest committee out there anyway. So, um, I don't think it's going to be too difficult for us to to navigate that
issue. Joe, what do you think? Any thoughts? You look like you were just going to say something. So, >> no. >> Okay. Um, okay. So, any any thoughts or questions about the the open house?
>> You may have mentioned this. as part of the program to recruit more members for this committee. >> No, that's it's not what that is. It's a it's anformational session with the public. So, um a chance for people to come and
>> I mean we are looking for more members. >> There's um so yes, we we we are but but it's >> to say we are looking for additional members of the EPAC. there's there's always that opportunity. I know the
mayor um you know routinely makes has those discussions or you know makes mention of that at um you know during during city council meetings. So the answer to that is yes but really the the focus of this is informing folks. Um and
actually what may happen out of this is people have an understanding like oh there is even uh one there's that they find out there is a bike and pedestrian committee >> and that it does spark interest. So look, um there those discussions can be made. Candidly, do I envision us
standing up there and saying, "Hey, if anybody's looking to to to join the committee, um I I think that to me, I think those would be more um granular type of discussions that would come up and dis when um when people come up to the to the table to to talk with
to talk with uh folks um you know, our members that are there. Um, I think timing works out to me regarding this uh the meeting. This meeting is happening on May 20th. We should have our our pamphlet together by then. It's a great
opportunity for us to really, you know, um, get the information out to people in the community. One of the things we've talked about is educational opportunities and outreach to um, regarding bike u bike safety, ebike safety. This is an opportunity for us.
So when we get together between now and say the April meeting, you know, maybe we talk about just what what we want to do, what we can do to kind of uh deliver that message because we're going to have an audience that's going to be coming to us, you know, to to hear about these uh
different issues in the in the community. So there's that chance. But yeah, the the goal is really just to kind of like throw the throw the doors of city hall open to folks um and have give them a chance to kind of u you know talk and have conversations with the
different committees and the commissions. Okay. Okay. >> You're on a tight schedule, right? >> Yeah. Okay. 10:30. >> Okay.
Okay. Um, so if there's nothing more on the open house, um, I'll just touch briefly on and Jerry, we can talk briefly about the working group. Um, I know we we kind of already addressed it. Not so sure if there's anything more that we need to
touch on the working group, but um you know for those who are listening and maybe just to kind of bring this home at the last uh bike and pedestrian committee, we talked about having a I'm going to use the term working group as opposed to a subcommittee because it
actually um a subcommittee to me would be not to be hyper technical, but it would be only members of the bike and pedestrian committee. It's a working group because we're looking at members of from uh the bike and pedestrian committee, but also the city manager's office um and the
police department and uh Tom Roth who owns Cape Island bicycles and who was at the last bike and pedestrian committee and expressed an interest in working on this issue as well. But um the focus of
the working group um is uh Jerry corre correct me if I'm wrong but um we we got together and determined that um ebike education and just
operations safety and enforcement were focus items that we we believe that needed to be focused on. >> That's that's correct. Um, and a big part of the education component is is this pamphlet, card, brochure, uh, to to
educate the public. So that is, um, all the individuals who, you know, we we've talked about, Jerry, Jim, myself, um, Lieutenant, um, Paul Dietrich, Casey,
Tom. Um, I think that they'll be contributing to work on the the text aspect of it and work on uh for the the content of the brochure with uh Casey being involved in design and um
you know so we can get this get this completed. So >> and I think the No, all good. Earlier in the meeting, we talked about what we just need to do as far as getting a meeting uh getting the meeting together. I think that, you know, we're talking
about having the meeting, you already outlined the schedule as far as when we need to get this done, to get the text together, and I sounds like if we do what we need to do on a in a timely manner that we're going to be a good position to get get this paper get this
brochure together for distribution this summer. and even earlier than that have it available for the you for the meeting as well. Um, Lieutenant, what I think as well, one of the reasons why we also want you to be on this in this working uh in this
working group is the other aspect of education is from this committee and I would welcome anybody else to also contribute to this discussion is that if there's other opportunities to reach the public and
reach folks as far as like the schools, kids, um you know, we're we want to make sure that we're not missing that opportunity. Um so you may have a better feel and obviously you have the ability to to
have discussions with community groups and the schools. So, I know that um one we would we'd like to to see some initiatives along those lines to uh to discuss bike safety as well as ebike,
you know, issues with uh with those groups. Um and the other aspect of it is I know I know you hear about enforcement on an ongoing basis and now that you pro been promoted to lieutenant, you're going to hear about it probably a lot more uh than than you did in the past.
But, um, you know, if there's information that you would be able to share as far as what the department's plan is from a from an enforcement standpoint, I realize, you know, a lot of it is what you see on the street on a one-on-one
contact, but um, as a for instance, I know we've talked about this before. Last year, I think the directed patrols were very effective um, in a lot of ways. I mean to me they showed real results as far as you actually have statistics as far as interaction with folks. Also when we talk about it here I
think it offers the opportunity for people to understand that there's steps are being taken and um just based on my background I'm a like I I think there really is something to specific deterrence with individuals when you just even have a conversation
with folks but also general deterrence when people have an understanding that the police department or code enforcement officials are looking for to make sure that people are operating and doing things correctly. So that's a theme you're going to be hearing from this group
constantly. Um so I think that we welcome continuing to have those conversations and getting feedback from the police department. Um and I do as a council member as well as far as the efforts that you're um that the police department is taking. Anybody else?
>> George, anything? >> I have nothing. >> Okay. Okay. Um, okay. I'm tired of talking. Anybody else have anything to say? >> Talking. >> Doing a hell of a job. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Okay. So,
um I don't know if Paul is planning on coming down. I thought he >> Okay. So, we um when I spoke with him the other day, I thought he would be coming down. He may he may have been
intending to come just for that piece, but if you could check >> Casey, could you come up and use the mic in case anybody's listening? >> Turn the mic on, please. >> Thank you. So, New Jersey does have it
is the um but it is from 2022, but New Jersey has njbikeped.org. They have a flyer already. So, I mean, this is certainly something that we can look at. um just because
like um I know was mentioned if they change anything I don't know if we necessarily want to print so many copies or we can print a minimum number of copies but then you have the case of all the versions being out there too.
>> So that's that hits the heart of the matter is I can't see that from here even with my amazing glasses but >> njbikeped.org this I don't know. It just says it's as of 2022. >> Oh, 22. Okay.
>> So, I think there I think there's other um similar type of information has recently been posted that we can probably >> really work work with. So, but you're hitting the nail on the head. Um one, I
think there's other there is information that's out there that we can work with. Secondly, we need to make sure that we put the obviously that it's the latest and that it's correct. So, I think that's what everybody is going to be looking at to make sure that we do that.
Um like the one downside with doing a pamphlet is we have to take a snapshot in time just like when you when you put out the um put out the booklet, right? >> Um you know, five minutes after you go to print, something can change. But um we're going to have to go with the the latest at that time and then we'll make
a judgment call as far as how many to print. >> So the other thing that we did with the um low speed vehicles is we made the brochure but there's a QR code on the brochure and it takes you to the website so that every update it's obviously very easy to update the website versus doing
something in print again. So I had said to lieutenant I would suggest doing something more general and then as things change they can go to the website and see the different changes and updates >> too >> and have a QR code on the handout. Yeah.
So, and I'm not sure I mean I'll do whatever I'm whatever I can do to help, but um I'm not sure if you even need a folded a biffold or if you just want to do a wrap card because then we can also keep it more general just having the front back but whatever cuz that
honestly just looking back at it. It's more of welcome to Kate May. We're happy you're here. That was more of a vacationer message. I think this is more of probably it's vacationer also, but you probably want to hit more local, too.
>> Okay, >> just a thought. >> Yeah, I think um once we determine exactly what text would be on there, it could probably determine just >> what it's going to look like, too. >> And that's all I ask, too, is I same with the low- speed vehicle. I by no
means am an expert. So, I just ask for whatever verbiage and text and message you want and then I can design something based off that. >> Well, my taking was frankly that we already have something designed, >> right? >> So, you know, I I prefer not to reinvent wheels. >> Yeah,
>> you don't have to. But, you know, but it's a good thought though is to have one of those heavier cardboard twoided. >> Yeah, >> maybe that is a better way. Yeah, because I'll probably still change the design of it a little just so that they are able to differentiate which is low
speed and which is um for the ebikes anyway. So to me it it I appreciate that thought process, but either way I'll still have to change it and modify it. So I'm open to anything. >> Yeah. >> So I've seen enough of your work to know that you understand visual impact. We're
looking for visual impact. So when they go and um are at convention hall, this is something that draws their eye. So they, you know, people take a take a look at it. >> Um and also if they're in a at a hotel and it it's a a card, a stack of cards
sitting there at the at the desk that it's something that uh guests would be drawn to to pick it up and take a look and educate themselves. >> Yep. Yep. So whatever I can do to help. I did already start something which this isn't
anything but just having an ebike and ebike laws is the theme obviously we're going with. So forget the bottom of it. It's just the top. So I already found the bike. >> Um did you get them? >> No.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. You want to go try and get them because I do have a call with them at 10:30. take advantage of the role. >> Yes. >> Is it okay to talk about this now? >> Sure. Yeah. I absolutely
>> Okay. Um, >> no law. >> The law has been ended. >> Paul, why don't you come on up? We're ready for you. >> Um, so same as >> manager update time. What other What
other information do you have to share? Same as last month. No. Um uh so projects are moving along. Um Prominade projects moving along. They're going to start paving next week.
Still on target to have it open by June. Got some disappointing news from the county. The safe streets project on Pennsylvania has been pushed till the fall. trying to, you know, probably September.
Um, the safe streets, so uh, safe streets, so crosswalks, bike sharers, and you know, those kinds of things on Pennsylvania. Um, sidewalk project. We've had our pre-construction meeting, looking to
start that probably in a couple weeks. And uh we've sent notices to the property owners that were affecting and uh this the response have been pretty good about the property owner sending in their 30%
um kind of payment assistance for the project as part of their pro portion to pay for the project. No, no, that was um o ocean from beach up to Columbia down
Columbia and then jumping over Madison and shooting down Virginia and then some scattered locations that Shade Tree had identified um from people asking from Shade Tree Commission
and then we're making an application to the for small cities grant to do some more sidewalk and ADA um street improvements and that is also going to be funded with a as part of another another phase of the sidewalk project if
it's in the capital budget for this year. So, that would probably be designed over the summer and we'll put that out to bid next fall. And once the budget gets approved, we'll probably be doing the same thing with the ADA improvements and path through
the tennis club and up through the physics estate. That'll probably be a fall project. and we have $200 and,000 in the capital budget appropriated for uh
traffic and pedestrian safety improvements throughout the city. So, that'll be something that we'll look at implementing, you know, getting a consultant on board to design it and implement it probably at the end of this year.
So, that's kind of project-wise where we stand. I appreciate you staying in contact with the county on the um the Pennsylvania Avenue project as it seems as though
we get responses only when we ask. >> Yes. Um, so I think we just need to continue to um be the bur under the saddle and to make sure that gets done. My understanding is the money's been appropriated.
>> Yeah, it's been hanging out. It's just >> No, it's just they're just moving their project focuses around and what they get out the door. I mean, at this point, it's been designed, but because it has DOT money, DOT, you know, they they they become the mercy of the DOT to make
corrections to it, and then it pushes the project. You know, they can't put it out the bid until the DOT ultimately approves it and their new approval process makes it very cumbersome and lengthy of a review process.
>> I understand. It just in the past there there used to be a number of people um kids who would bike >> from the Coast Guard base to to the elementary school and they would go down Pennsylvania and which it is because it is the safest
route, >> right? >> Um they maybe they aged out but um you don't see that type of bike traffic as much as you did before. Um, and I realize, you know, if I think if it's there, people may be more inclined to
use it. >> I doubt we we would you even if it happened now, and it should happen because they had because we were told it was going to be happening in the spring. Um, at least that's my my recollection. >> Well, it was it's they've been telling us it's been happening for the last couple years. >> Yeah. The last
>> 11 project from the county. >> The last time before they said it would be September, they said the spring. But if it if it were done in in September, I mean, >> it'd be it'd be opportunity to get kids when they're going back to school, >> right? >> Because then we can put it out there to
the schools to say, "Hey, this is opened up again." U because there's going to be a lot more kids more inclined to be biking to school in September than they're going to be in February. >> Correct. >> So, um >> All right. So, just thank you for staying on top of that. No problem. That
>> no problem. >> So, weekly calls wouldn't be bad. Well, >> or no, I I'm I'm >> monthly and quarterly. >> I'm saying that somewhat ingest. >> There's a couple other projects that we're tracking with the county, but that's >> Yeah. No, >> just always getting an update.
>> Yeah. Wouldn't bother me if that when they hear your voice that they think that you might be bringing this topic up. Well, I I let him know that, you know, I have people asking me so so that he's he's aware that it's not just me doing my
normal bugging that I'm bugging for a reason. >> Yep. Understood. >> Anything else, Paul? >> No. I don't have any new updates. I know the we're getting ready I don't know if George mentioned but we're getting ready to submit the application to the D for
permitting on the 1 Avenue pedestrian bicycle bridge project. So that's >> that just waiting I think your signature. >> Yeah, I got I that's meant to do it yesterday but I'm going to everything else is ready according to Tony. >> Yep. Got to get that over him today. >> Get that moving.
>> Okay, that's great. And just as an aside, um Tony's coming to the environmental commission meeting this >> in a couple weeks to talk about the bike the bike project as well. Essentially giving the same presentation that he has given to
>> given us here and talk about it. We got snowed out last last month just like we got snowed out of everything last month. >> So um but yeah, I appreciate the fact that he's going to come over and do that. >> Sounds good. >> Anybody have any other questions for Paul? Well, I just want to mention
I have not >> I have not yet issued the the November minutes and I apologize for that. And we said we're going to send you the minutes when they're uh prepared so you can say stay on top of what's going on. And we said also indicated at the end of the
minutes we're going to state our areas of concern, not action items but areas of concern. Mhm. >> Um at the end of the November meeting, there were three areas of concern. Uh one was raised by me and that is the intersection of uh Broad and St. John's.
There's a 20 yard gap or so in the sidewalk. I now see there's painted spray painted lines indicating where a sidewalk's going to go. >> Yes. Yeah. That that's been on our focus that and that's part of the uh police project. And so that's >> that concern seems to be alleviated.
Another concern was the lighting at the uh entrance to the Ocean uh Street Avenue entrance to the Acme parking lot. Uh it's it's dark. We have a concern it's dark, but we understand there's gas lights, >> right? >> So, there may be some limitations as to
what can be done. The other area concern is the signage at the prominade uh not matching uh the city code of uh when bicycles can be on the pro. We have a sign group that's working on
signage generally throughout the city. Grammatically it's correct, but you could read it. >> Here's the >> grammatically could be better. No, I I I I know it. I know what the code says and I know what our sign says. So the sign you can interpret if you read the sign,
it is correct, but you could also read it to say to read it in a different manner. So, um, as part of the as part of the sign project, we're we're working on >> Yeah. >> So, we're aware of that there's a little bit
of confusion about that, but it's one of the things we're going to be possibly working on at this point. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Anybody else? Paul, as always, thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Yeah, just for the I I passed over
section code uh section 158-9 is what it for the minutes. It's >> Thank you. Anybody else uh have any topics or issues they want to bring up? >> I do not. >> Okay. Um, so Joe did prepare, it's not
on the agenda, Joe, you prepared the minutes for the the last the last meeting. I mean, we could I don't know if everybody had an opportunity to look at those. Um, >> you did. Okay. The only question that I
had on them was was under um and regarding uh then Sergeant Chrysinger talking about uh when he addressed the meeting about distributing brochures to businesses and
firsttime violators. I just I just wasn't quite sure about distributing brochures. >> Um I didn't know what that was and I I just honestly I just didn't recall that conversation >> you would be handing out.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just like you do with the low speed. >> Yeah. Think you need to turn it. Got it. Just like we do with the low speed vehicles, um maybe we stop you for the first time in one of our directed patrols. Instead of issuing a summon, we
would hand the new pamphlet out to uh more of an education to start out. >> Okay, understood. I just was looking for some clarification on that. Okay, thank you, Lieutenant. Congratulations. >> So,
we have a motion to approve the minutes from February 11th. >> Approve the minutes. >> Second. >> And I second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. We have minutes. Anybody have anything else for the purpose of today? >> I will get November's minutes and
today's minutes within the week. >> Okay. And our next meeting, I believe, would be April 8th. Is that what everybody else would gather? >> 9:30.
>> April 8th. 9:30. Yeah. Joe, don't count on me for time. I had us doing the open house at 7 o'clock at night. Okay. >> 7 in the morning. >> So, yeah. No, it wasn't going to be 7 in the morning. Trust me. Okay. April April 8th. Okay. See everybody then. Thank you
very much. Any meetings adjourned? >> Thank you. Thanks very much. >> Want to do five minutes of this or no? Or you saying you Okay, let's do it.