Secretary take the roll call right now. Joe here >> on the website. >> He's not on the he's not on Bayack >> here. And Jim Muffin is here too.
>> Jim Moffet is here too. >> Uh yes, we do have a a new member of the committee, Tom Roth. A long time, shouldn't say that probably, but native of Cape May and been in the bicycle
business one way or another for decades. With that, Tom, I'll just uh leave it to you to give a little background on your yourself, particularly as it relates to uh bicycle safety. >> Well, first of all, thank you for having me.
>> Your mic. >> Yeah, there you go. >> First of all, thank you for having me. Uh I'm going to introduce myself with my family history a little bit. >> Uh the Roth family goes back in Kate May from the not the early 1900s, from 1900.
Um, we've had a candy business on the mall prior to what was Fudge Kitchen. It was Ross Candyland catering to the carriage trade since 1886. So, I personally am not um a big not in favor of the word local and and uh native. I
refer to our guests as guests. Um, they're a lifeblood of what we do in this in this community and and my family's been abiding for to that since the 1900s. Now, business-wise, I am the current owner of Cape Island Bikes. Have three
locations, one in Westgate May and two in Cape May, one at the Congress Hall, and one at the May Cumber. Um, we started in Kate May in 1999. Uh, renting bikes and ebikes. Believe it or not, in 1999, we actually had Liakoka
ebikes. Um, we had four of them. Now, we have in excess of 50. So, not Lei Kofus, but um but that's how long I've been in the ebike business. So, we're, you know, it's it's uh it's kind of ingrained in what we do. So, um
I'm also in the back end of the bike industry. I've been in the the wholesale end since I guess 1981, 1984, excuse me. um from running bike shops to the wholesale end of being reps for some of the major
companies in the country including Trek and Fuji and many others. I'm currently the VP of sales for a new US assembled ebike called the ride which is being produced in um Utica and New York. So it's we're pretty excited and we'll be launching those bikes in about a month.
So but anyway again I'm happy to be here. Thank you for uh inviting me. Maybe just uh one question for you I think would be of interest to uh to the group here. Uh what what are your requirements for
somebody to uh rent an ebike for the day or half a day or whatever it might be? >> We've been way ahead of this. I always pride myself in saying we are the safest bike rental company I've ever seen. Um, for starters, not just with uh ebikes,
but for instance with SARES, which are all over Kate May, we require 21 years of age. Um, I'm not going back to 17, which is the new requirement from the state. >> You're not going to go back. >> I am not going back to that. Um, I I understand what the capabilities are and
what can happen and I don't want to have any parts of it. you know, I'm a responsible businessman and I don't want anybody getting hurt and there's the potential for that if they're treated like knuckleheads. You know, it can be difficult. So, for bicycles, I mean,
it's it's 18 um to rent a bicycle or with parents consent and helmets are always required with kids under 17. For ebikes, helmets are mandatory. And we use a a standard for an ebike helmet way beyond what a normal bicycle helmet is. So, for instance, most bicycle helmets,
most people don't realize this, are certified to 15 miles an hour. We for the ebike rentals, um, the helmets we use are certified to 28. So, by choice, nobody's mandating that. It's just something we do. We pride ourselves in,
boy, I hope I don't jinx it, but we pride ourselves in not having issues and problems and and injuries. So, knock on wood. H how about your I'll call them competitors or your partners here in town, the other the other individuals
who uh operate run and operate rental bicycle rentals. Do do they all rent out ebikes and do they have as strict regulations as you do? >> Unless it's changing for 2026. I'm the only one in Kate May or Westgate May
that rents ebikes. Um, there was a company called Pedigo, which is a national, not a franchise, but for lack of a better word, a national um, entity that was, they rented an awful lot of ebikes. And I I can tell you flat out, they also had a ton of issues. So, um,
improperly training the riders and uh, obviously, not obviously, but injuries have had had happened. So to my knowledge, the only only serious injury that happened on an ebike in this
Kate May or West Kate May came from the now defunct Pedigo store. So >> So they're no longer in the area. Pedigo the >> No, they actually had six I don't want to speak matter of fact because I don't know them that well, but from what I understood again being in the back end of the bike industry, they had six
locations. uh Rahobath, excuse me, Lewis, Kate May, Wwood, Ocean City, Manunken, PA, and Lawrenceville. Um there may that could have fluctuated the towns, but um they found it really difficult to which it is to make a
living at it. So this these new this new legislation scares me. So businessman wise, so >> Okay. Anybody have >> no you had mentioned the helmet requirement. Is that a requirement for ebike rental? >> I'm sorry, say it again. >> Helmet.
>> Um, I don't know if it's required anywhere other than from me, but we don't let anybody go out without a ebike helmet. So, for >> state law requires helmets to be worn by anyone operating an ebike. >> Yeah. >> For ebikes, it's mandatory and it has been since we've been renting ebikes.
So, >> bicycles, it's, you know, we'll give them helmets all day long. adults. Um, if they wear them, it's a different story. Even with kids that we're required to give it to them, fit them. Um, you'll see it all over town. Kids
are riding around with their helmets on their on their handlebars or in a basket. So, uh, I will tell you a pleasant story. When I first opened in here in 19 1997, uh, excuse me, 1999,
I bought hundreds of kids helmets knowing it was mandatory. My to my pleasant surprise um I had to go back and buy hundreds of adult helmets because it was uh not required for adults but adults were making positive examples uh for their kids and and I
supply helmets. I supply helmets to anybody. Anybody that needs a helmet in Kate May can come to any of my rentals and get a free loaner helmet. So I don't they they're surprised that we don't charge for it but I'd rather be safe than sorry. So, >> so Tom, I would just say based off your
Kate May background and your your um bike background as well as ebike background, I think you're going to be a great addition to the to the committee. So, appreciate your volunteering and participating. >> I hope to live up to that. I mean, good things can come from these things, these meetings. So, and already have
>> Excuse me. Welcome. >> Uh, city manager, we're on old business. Do you have a report to make to us as to what's happening that relates to uh our committee?
>> Not really. I mean, our projects are moving along. Um, so I don't, you know, I mean, the sidewalk contractor started on Ocean, poured the first couple sets of panels, so he's they're moving along. Um,
they're p starting to pave on Ohio, then Illinois, and then, you know, on that those street projects and the prominads on schedule to be ready and open for the season. So,
>> um, any word from the county about, uh, Pennsylvania Avenue and the route from >> So, the safe streets project with the uh, pavement markings. Uh, he, I think Bob Church, the county engineer, is anticipating that project to um, start
in the fall. I know that's sounds like a pre-recorded message that I've played for you a couple times over the last two years, but that's the latest word I got about a a month and a half ago from the county engineers's office was that it's
should be going out this fall. >> And and how about the uh >> can we just can we just pause there just for a second? Uh Jim, if I have a follow-up question. So, um, are we further along than we were at at some point along the way with, um,
with the with that striping project on Pennsylvania? >> I I >> from a commitment standpoint or a bid standpoint, where I guess >> they haven't put the project out to the project. Okay. Where do where do things stand as far as what do they need to
what do they need to do for us to have the um the striping done in the fall? >> Well, they got to put the project out the bid and award a contract, right? >> Um and this is something I think we've discussed it. So, this is something that
we're we're monitoring to ensure that they get on their >> y >> on their agenda to to do. And >> we've been in contact with a lot of just getting it out. He knows we he knows we want this get get this done. We're being a we're being a voice. >> Yes.
>> Yep. Yep. >> Thanks. >> Okay. Um and anything to report on uh progress and that intersection there, Elmyra, Lafayette, uh doing striping. No,
>> no. I mean, as as I've said before, you know, until the budget gets approved, then I can go out and and look at getting a contract you design engineer to look at designing that project. So, until the budget's approved, uh in later a April, um you know, there will be no
movement on that. >> Okay. >> Because I can't I have to hire a consultant for that. >> I thought the budget was already approved, but it's not approved yet. >> No, it hasn't even been designed yet. I'm talking about the overall budget, the capital budget and the operating
budget for the city. >> Yeah, but I have to wait for the final budget to get approved and that's going to be later in April. >> Yeah, the um the budget was introduced in mid-Marchch and I believe it's scheduled for second reading passage on
April 21st, the April 21st meeting. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Okay. Anything else? No, I think that's those are all our project updates that we've been working on. >> Okay, we'll let you get back to work. No >> worries. Paul, I just wanted people
public listens to these >> the public listens to these meetings and you'd mentioned about the prominade being um being resurfaced. Could you just touch on when the that I guess that final coat whether that final coat's going to go on in the spring or what
what the process is that that that the city needs to follow to make sure that that properly cures before that coating can be put put down. >> So the uh the the the painted coating that would go on the asphalt surface
needs about 30 to 45 days cure time. Um, so the anticipation is, you know, we paved from essentially convention hall to Madison about two weeks ago now. Um, so that'll be definitely coded before the summer
season. Uh, they're just finishing up the concrete repairs between Jackson and Grant. Um once they're all done, then we're going to get on the paving schedule to essentially pave everything from
Perry to the Cove and then depending on when that gets paved, that'll set up the time frame of that. So obviously as we're get more into the season, that paving operation will take probably 4 days probably in all told as far as
milling and paving and everything. So disruptions there'll be uh and then the painting will be go fairly quickly but there'll be you know we'll try to close down as least amount of area as we can but also providing access obviously we have the advantage in this next section
of having the ADA mats out on the beach so that you know people can still walk the area and have access to the beach at at certain locations and get access. So >> okay thank you Paul appreciate it. >> Thanks guys. Okay. Thank you, Paul.
U Steve, I'm going to turn it over to you to talk about the next things on our agenda, particularly as it relates to the open house in uh in May. >> Okay. Um so, let's talk about the open
house. Um the city is as we discussed at the last meeting um there's going to be a citywide open house on May 20th at convention hall from 5 to 7 uh p.m. So there's um the purpose of the open house
is to uh provide a um an opportunity for the public to um hear from and interact with members of different Cape May city commissions, boards and um and
committees. So part of that um in doing those uh that interaction, there's certain aspects that each one of those groups need to um need to undertake. Um the format uh provides for a brief
uh presentation uh with the util with the utilization of uh some slides by um a member of the of each committee and I'll just take it in a our first person terms. Jim, you're our our chairman. So I think we've talked about it.
Anticipate that you're going to be doing that that oral >> presentation. Correct. Right. Um so um and then from uh in in addition to th those presentations from each of those groups uh there will be I guess we' call
it an opportunity to have maybe a breakout sessions isn't quite the the right word but open h an openhouse format where there'll be tables set up and we'll have um this committee would have a table where members would um be
present at the table to be able to uh talk with uh folks from the public, answer questions, uh provide any information that would be uh that we deem relevant to the committee. So the uh what what we need to drill down on
are um one uh you know who would be doing that initial presentation. We know the answer to that. Jim, you're going to be handling that and um your remarks that you would make. It's only it um each each person that's doing that oral
presentation, it's only for a couple of minutes to give a brief overview. Um so, you know, that needs to be uh determined. What does need to be um completed though are the slides that go with that that presentation.
Um so that's something that needs to be done and needs to be prepared. Um in in addition uh the committee and what we had talked about last I guess at the last meeting to I guess advance the conversation on
further here is what um if we're going to have any literature you know at the table um you know or any information at our at our table. you know, what do we what does the committee want to do as far as to in that opportunity to
interact with the public um to be able to present to uh to folks? Um and in addition, look, we need to coordinate who's coming uh to, you know, to the open house and um because every group
needs to make sure that they don't have a quorum at the table. Um, I think it's the easy part, but we would need to be able to kind of move in and out if we have more people there than would be from a quorum just so we don't have too many uh folks from the committee at the
table at the same time, which I think is fairly fairly straightforward. Look, you know, someone steps up. It's only going to be for like a half hour um or brief or maybe shortly more session, but you know, you're at you're at the table, you step back if there's if there's too many
people there and it's kind of self we would be self-p policing in that regard. Um I know the city clerk will be watching everybody as well to make sure that you know that um that everybody abides by that. But um those are you know those are some of the the logistics
that we need to figure out. Jim. Um just the information that's going to be on the slides. Um any information that we would we would have any messaging that uh that the committee wants to put out to folks. So you know in line with that
one of the items that we have talked about and I'll just mention it now because it's the other topic of discussion is the the pamphlet we've been uh discussing to work on for you know for ebikes. Um but that's one of
the the committees. It's a it's a stated priority for this committee for 2026. Um you know the our goal is to have that uh and we will have that pamphlet completed in advance of of uh the uh the
open house. And that certainly would be one piece of literature that we would have available for you know for um to to hand out to the public. Um but that's you know I'll we'll touch on that a little bit a little bit further at a um when we when we're
focusing strictly on that but um so those are the pieces that we need to drill down on though Jim is it regarding the regarding the open house. >> Okay. So this open house uh what do we say it was from 5 to 7 >> 5 to 7 to 7.
>> Yes. So the mayor will kick it off with his remarks for five or 10 minutes. Uh I think is the plan and then after that how how many committees are going to be represented there.
>> So it's going to be the planning board and the zoning board. They're going to be doing a I think a joint presentation. The shade tree it certainly have a joint table. Shade Tree Commission, Environmental Commission, Historic Preservation Commission, uh, Bayac,
MTRA, and Beach Safety. So, you're correct as far as the overall format. the mayor and the city manager will address um the public in a five minutes or so each and then each one of those representatives of the groups I just mentioned would have about two minutes
to present their um their community purpose any initiatives uh that we wanted to discuss. Um again two slides for a PowerPoint that's provides pertinent information that would be relevant to the to your introductory um
remarks. Um So, the Casey Ratigan is coordinating uh who's our director of civic affairs is coordinating for all the boards and the commissions to
um collate um all of the PowerPoint slides, but um she can't she so she has to have that information to be able to collate that. And we have a we there is a hard date for us to provide that information to uh to Casey. I believe
it's around I don't have the date right in front of me, but I know it's um later later in April I think is when we want to try to get that information to her. Um it might actually be a little later than that. I I will I will find that out. But yeah, we need we need to to
take steps to get that to get that done. Um and then as I as I said the um the table sessions each committee will have a table representation from each board and committee opportunity to have more in-depth discussions with folks who come
and to get feedback from the public. So I think that um you know among the the matters that we had discussed was um you know our core focus for the year is ebike education, ebike awareness. So, I know that um I I I'm sure that that's
going to be an aspect of this, but there's certainly other areas we can discuss too regarding bike and pedestrian safety, too. For instance, having the bike map and and information like that, but look, I don't want to I think everybody needs to contribute to that discussion as far as just what um
what what needs to be done. But we're at a point where um the committee needs to make decisions as far as just how this is going to be done and then there needs to be a plan as far as um moving forward with the information, the folks that are
going to be there and a commitment from people. >> Okay. So, it sounds like in this 2-hour period, we have maybe the first 40 45 minutes of uh the the mayor and the committee
chairpeople uh g giving their their little talks and then the next 45 minutes uh or hour would be individual tables. Each comm each commission or committee would have
their own table and the public could come up and talk to whatever table they wanted to go to or or or tables. Uh and that for the sunshine law, we don't want more
than three people at the table because u with seven members now. Uh a quorum is four. So we could have we could have three me we could have three members at the table. U
so I'm not going to twist any arms but I would like to make this as inclusive of the whole committee just not myself and Steve uh be there uh at the table and maybe we do something like do a little signup sheet. Yeah, I'll do uh 6:00 to
6:15 and somebody else do 6:15 to 6:30 and and do it that way. If you're interested, I'm not going to twist any arms and you may have other things on your agenda, but if you're interested in doing it, uh I'd like to see as many many of you as possible take a u uh t
take a turn to the table and talking to the uh the people who are interested and and want to know more about the committee or they may have their own pet peeve. Um from what I understand,
uh this is is supposed to be more of a a general overview of what uh BPAC does and how we operate. It is not to try and defend well why isn't there a stop sign at the corner of Franklin Street and
Columbia Avenue. Uh so so it's more more general because we're really not there to say why why isn't there a a stop sign there? It just >> there is. >> Well, Yeah, there already is. >> But frankly,
>> uh, but to get the point, I from what I understand, it's a more general what what type of issues are we talking about? maybe discuss a little bit about ebikes and type of thing that somebody may have an interest in, but not to not
to not to zero in on any one particular item that somebody has a gripe with as far as u bicycle and pedestrian safety. >> What's the date of the open house again? >> The date of the open house with >> May 20th.
>> May 20th, which is what? A Thursday night or Wednesday night? Wednesday night. >> Wednesday night. >> And it starts at >> 700 p.m. >> No, >> 5 to 5 to 7. >> 5 to 7.
>> Well, the Oh, 5 to 7, I'm sorry. >> 5:00 to 7 o'clock at convention hall. >> Stand corrected. So why don't we say that u by our next meeting which is what May 6 or something like that uh
get back get back to me at that meeting whether you uh would like to be part of the table or not and we'll get a signup sheet for uh specific times for all those that would like to participate. And I would say um from for myself
obviously I'm going to be at the open house but I'm going to be I'm going to be in different areas at the open house. I will be certainly checking in with the um you know with the committee table but I'll be attending to other you know
other obligations and um you know throughout as well. So >> you'll be our floater. >> Okay. More or less. Yeah. So um look yeah uh it's a great opportunity to participate great opportunity to to talk with people hear from people I also
think that the every every board every commission h plays uh you know has their own role in uh in Kate May obviously I think from my standpoint this is a the open house is a wonderful opportunity
for the bike committee to kind of uh put forth information to folks folks. Um I think our specific issues really are public safety. You know, it's our general issue as well. So, this is a real opportunity to um to talk with folks and I think we can kind of talk
about matters um that I think this is well this is well suited for what um for as far as an opportunity for us to get our message out. >> Agree. >> Tom, did you have a question? >> Uh no, just a statement. Um, I can tell
you already the ebike topic is going to be a hot topic and I'm volunteering to do whatever you guys need me to do. I will be there the whole time whether it's in shifts or whatever. But, um, we field questions at the shop or at the rental. Um, everybody is asking. So, uh,
it's just confusing and I don't know that anybody expects it to stay the way it is, but um, everybody is concerned as we all should be. >> Yeah. Well, and I think that coincides with really our focus this year of BPAC
is u ebikes are at the top of the list of things we we are already addressing and plan to address. >> Yeah, I I I tutor at Kate May Cares for 4 to 5, so I'll be a few minutes late, but I'll be there for the whole session. I do want to I'd like to bring up that
it kind of pertains to the open house, but um I have a you know I have a concern of how the impact of this new ebike legislation will have on the um our guest community, meaning tourists
coming in with ebikes. Um as it stands now, they're going to be subject to the same rules and laws of everybody in the state of New Jersey, and it's going to leave a very negative impression. Um, I've said this in many discussions and interviews and and so forth, but they have a choice coming here. I mean, if
you know, if they're coming out of PA, they can go south to Delaware or they can go north into New York. Um, if Delaware, which has a very reasonable uh laws for ebikes, it's, you know, they have a choice if they can't ride what
they want. And, believe me, it's a lot. I'm estimating 50 to 100 couples per day come into Kate May with their own ebikes. So, >> how do you get that statistic? >> Just watching. I've been, you know, it's
a not a hobby, but um having been renting ebikes since 1999. I've said this a thousand times. I'm going to start coughing here. Sorry. At first, you would see the first five years of us renting ebikes, you'd see
10 a year maybe over the years. I mean it's I again I visibly watch every day. Um so from 1999 to 2025 they're I mean you'll see hundreds of ebikes. I'm estimating that half of
those are coming in as guests, not, you know, not just local >> ownership. You're seeing operators of ebikes riding ebikes as opposed to >> I'm sorry. >> You're seeing bikes being driven by >> ebikes being >> by people. Okay. As opposed to ebikes
strapped to the back of cars coming into town. >> All the above. I I pay attention to it because it affects my business. So, um, as an example, in 1999, I had four. Now I have in excess of 50, and it's, uh, I should know that number, but it's it's probably close.
>> Your your estimate, being observant, is about 50 to 100 a day. >> Again, it affects my business. So, and think of the dollars that those people are spending. Uh, it's a tremendous amount of money that it could be put in jeopardy if it's not handled properly. So, >> right. And it's a state imposition, not
a city imposition that we're dealing with. >> Yeah. We are a reflection of the state. If we have somebody get a ticket for riding a ebike that they enjoy, you know, >> they're not going to get a ticket. >> Yeah. >> Well, I think we also have to be flexible and maybe nimble u because that
legislation may change on a day's notice. Honestly, it's expected to change. that um the Senate President of the Senate for New Jersey is uh Senator Qatari. Uh he's the
one that pushed this through and you know for whatever reason it was a vast majority. This is not a real number but 50 to 10. It was that vast of a majority in favor of the new legislation and it was based off of safety concerns that were um you know
pushed forward with false pretense. You know it's this is a long uh comment about it, but the culprits that are causing all these injuries and and even deaths are not ebikes. They're they're e- motorcycles that that people just say
it's an ebike. You the you'll see every publication that that will put something out about this legislation. They're showing an emoto, which is not an ebike. getting back to the, you know, 50 to 100 per day. Um, I call these the uh this
the invisible majority. Um, there are dozens and dozens of people riding ebikes that look like regular bikes that are law-abiding couples, individuals, however it might be. They're riding safely and and they rely on it for physical fitness and and
enjoyment and whatever it might be. They got grouped in with I'm going to say kids, but the people riding wheelies down Beach Drive, you know, and and it's not the same, you know, they are not they are absolutely not representative of the real electric
bike crowd. So, >> do do you have any any any >> do you have any sense of timing if legislation uh is getting changed? I know it's being discussed um heavily um but everybody says it's going to take a
while. I attended a forum in Princeton at this point it's about a month ago and there was I don't remember the senator's name but it's one of the few senators that actually voted against the new legislation. Um everybody just says it's going to be a while so they they don't
really know. But I will tell you, Senator, who again pushed this this legislation through under the pretense of of of false pretense of safety, is now in favor of amending it because it just it doesn't make sense, you know? Have you
guys seen the I call them family bikes, but have you seen the cargo bikes ride riding around town with the big baskets in front where their kids are being they're illegal? >> I live in Manhattan, let me tell you. >> Yeah. Yeah, you got it. They're all over the place. So >> Amazon runs uh
>> I mean they're like many trucks. >> Yeah, >> they're many trucks. >> It's becoming more and more popular. It gets cars off the road and and dropping off kids to school now. It's illegal. A ebike with a baby seat is now illegal.
You can't just for lack of um being paying attention. you know, they they're thinking a kid on the back of a bike, meaning riding two or riding on the handlebars or whatever. Kids have been killed that way. I I I get it. But they're not thinking about a baby seat
or a family bike or or it's transportation for people. So, again, I've at the shop, I've had cargo bikes, which is the basis of those bikes for five years now. Um, now I'm see there's probably 10 in Kate May and it's
probably that's a half a block in Manhattan, but um, so yeah, I mean that's it's how poorly thought out this legislation is. So >> So Jim, you said that, you know, um, we may need to be nimble. Um, but we have
to deal with the reality of this is the this is the um, the law right now. So our I think that uh you know what we need to focus on is um educating and informing people um and that is what we
have discussed doing by focusing on well as far as with having the pamphlet um along the lines just as Tom mentioned you know there probably will be a number of questions he feels them on a daily basis it's a topic of a conversation obviously ly around town, but um you
know, we are going to have we have a lot of guests. We have a lot of visitors um here throughout the summer. They come from all different states. They're not necessarily informed of the law, especially what is a brand new law. And
our our guests turn over on a regular basis every every few days. So we're in a constant state of educating folks. So that's why if I could lead the conversation in a direction of the brochure that we've been talking about
and the pamphlet we've been uh we have been discussing. It looks like Jerry and I both been doing some work on this. >> Uh you you yours is is in depth. I finally did my close read of the um I'm a lawyer. uh my my close read of the New
Jersey legislation and it's uh not the model of clarity uh in a number of respects but I I think you know one approach we talked about last time was just to punch some bullet points on a brochure
and so what I handed out earlier there's somebody in attendance here if you want one happy to share So, I I did punch out some bullet points of what I think are the key things people need to know. The second page of this that I prepared is this is the New
York State uh website and I imagine poster or brochure or something because they have a QR code there. QB QR Q. And then when you go there, it takes you, this is a
printout of what's on the state web page. So the second page is their it's their popup image. Uh and then the information is on the next page presented in bullet point format by the state. So, all I did was in my handout,
it's not as indepth, Steve, as yours, uh, because I was thinking this little brochure we were looking at at our last meeting, it has some bullet points, hey, things are different now. And rather than tell them how it's different as you
have put out quite succinctly and clearly in your suggestion here um my thinking was just to you know it's different because I because you know people watch this they have pretty short attention span.
>> No I agree. So um the what I what I did is I as an inspiration used our pamphlet for the low-speed vehicle >> right >> and what how this is written because in our discussion with u with the city the
city will work with us to help design and put the pamphlet together if we come up with the text to pe to be put in there. So, as far as the colors, the the design, the the print layout and such, all of that is subject to being able to
punch it up so it looks it gets the message across. Um, having done that, and I if I may just kind of like walk through what I had had prepared, um, you know, what I envision on the on the cover would be know the
ebike essentials for Kate May. um you know with and much along the same lines as with this brochure, there's something with an ebike on the front um with brochure that could be available at um at where people rent bikes um at um our
various uh hotels, motel, bed and breakfast, convention hall, the community center and such. um that would provide an introduction regarding the regulations for the operation of electric bike bicycles and electric scooters in Cape May and state licensing
registration and insurance requirements. Um you know I wrote it up with a brief intro. The use of electric bicycles, ebikes, and low-speed electric scooters is prevalent in Kate on Kate May streets and hightra pedestrian areas often in close proximity to pedestrians,
children, seniors, and motor vehicles for the safety for the safety of ebike and electric scooter operators, pedestrians, and motorists. Riders should observe local regulations and state laws regulating the operation and use of ebikes and motorized scooters. In January of 2026, New Jersey adopted
strict new ebike regulations that classified all electric bicycles as motorized bicycles. State regulations require that all ebikes be registered with the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission and be insured with liability coverage. Ebike operators must possess your driver's license or a special ebike
license. So, I would envision something like that. And I would propose something um like that being on I guess on the cover and on the perhaps on the front or on the second page. Um, and then after that I
I went through our city ordinance because we have a city ordinance regarding the operation of ebikes and scooters um electric low-speed electric scooters and also the
um um there are even in the the new ebike legislation there's some aspects of operation that are written into into there and I called I called information from our city legis uh our city ordinance as well as the state um the uh
state law regarding operation regulations for ebikes and electric scooters. Um, and also I think it's important that we include in the literature that we provide that the use of ebikes and low-speed electric scooters on the
pramad Washington Street Mall Kate May nature trails prohibited at all times. Um, look, it's our it's an opportunity to, I guess, one-stop shop, you know, for someone to pick up a brochure, get information about operation, and then
the licensing requirements as well. While it may change um right now this is what uh we're all dealing with including our police department um you know over the course of this of the season. So um I the information regarding licensing
registration insurance requirements that is called uh directly from the um directly from the the legislation. Um, I would suggest that we also include uh I guess well include information as
far as um the the website for uh New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission for further information regarding licensing and registration so people can dig more deeply in that because as you're right, Jerry, we can't be putting out a book here. It needs to be something that directs folks and gives some
information. Um we can take we can callull information out. Um I think and in some instances I think it's good to direct folks um as far as where to get uh to get further um further information
and we could also include a QR code on our um >> call a QB code. Oops. in our in our brochure for um you know for our our city site that leads to either the map or leads to well the city website um the
low-speed vehicle one also has a has a QR code in there and if you if we put the QR code in there it takes it takes uh individuals um the bike stickers that we have that go on um on bikes that we're we're renting around town takes uh that takes
folks directly to the city web page and includes the u the the bike uh the bike map that has been uh has been approved as well. So we could also include that on a brochure as well. So I throw that out as because we need to we need to
formulate as far as what the what the specific language would would be. Um I took I took that and I know you know Jerry has done that as well. Um, maybe we need to kind of work on a marriage here of get getting this information
together and come up with uh come come up with the um uh what should be included as far as the text of a pamphlet. and then we the committee would be in a position to
bring um Casey Ratigan in to help to work with us on design. So th those were those were my thoughts. >> Yeah, I think they're good thoughts. May I suggest with all respect that when you have a brochure given out to the general
public that in the first line has a word like prevalent and the next line has a word like proximity. Uh these are highulutin words. So feel edit. So one thing I would say I wrote it but ownership is with everybody
here. So Jerry just like you I'm a you know I'm a lawyer. So um yeah I'm putting something out there. Please feel free to work with this and edit this. >> I think as I say I think a marriage of the two. This is succinct. It's it's
well written except for I think the high fallulutin words uh because it's given out to the public. Um, and so so yeah, I I think they the two could be, you know, could be married. I mean, it's a lot of text. I
mean, how much are we we giving? Well, I looked at um I looked at the LSV brochure and we do provide um information. Look, we could put out just
a really basic um information card. Um personally, I think we need to do a little bit more because I think in part uh I think it's important to let people know what happened and and why it happened. And I think that it's an
opportunity to I think we need to give our a Kate May message and tie this into Kate May and and the area. Um, and George, I would also mention this, the the you know, the demarcation line between
West Kate May and Kate May is there isn't one. So, I would welcome please your input as far as what the information in here as far as what if you think it can be done to be tailored because we have the cyclists are going all over the island. Obviously, the
registration information pertains to everybody, but if there's something that um is that we're that is missed here or should be included that would be helpful for um >> that's not included. We should include
that as well. >> I agree. I think we had that police department enforces the rules on all the also do
a whole back. How do people consume information? You know obviously we want people to understand how are they going to
bike shop how do you How do you transmit this information? I can tell you that. >> Well, we have an LSV. >> You know what? It's really so we need to put the information out to folks. I
mean, um, if there's a better way, but I'm open to hearing it, but I think we're going to do some type of brochure. We are going to Again, feel free to work on it. Everybody
contribute and let's let's put something together. >> I'd like to add a couple of things if I can. >> Um, >> that's why you're here, friend. >> Yeah, that's why you're here. >> Yeah. Um, I'm gonna go back a little bit, but um,
the ebike license registration insurance um, you realize just so everybody's on the same page with it because you're it's going to open a can of worms, you cannot register an ebike in the state of New Jersey right now, right? Through through motor vehicles. >> Tom, we have to deal with what the law
is going to be. Um, we are not in a position to say, you know, New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission hasn't done this yet. I mean, we we recognize that that that is the issue and that there are significant issues there, but we have to deal with the law and we have to
prepare for what the city is going to be dealing with this summer. I think in turn our police department um from an enforcement standpoint, we know that they're going to have their hands full and I think a lot of their enforcement this summer is really going to be in terms of education. Um a lot of it that
just as their their enforcement regarding bicycles is in terms of education. Um, by way of example, you know, positive reinforcement when they see kids riding in the right correct direction, wearing helmets, giving out
those positive notification tickets where they get a um, you know, get get uh, um, a voucher for ice cream in town or to another place. So, what what I think is important is we pass the
message along to folks. And you bring up a good point because we can clearly go down the rabbit hole um by um regarding um ebikes, but we have to provide the information that's out there
and work with what we have. If it gets changed, then we'll be in a position to go in a different direction and pivot. Um the last meeting, the city manager was here. He understands this. um has said, "Look, we'll print as many to to get us going if the legislation
changes." Um one, we can, you know, update our brochure as needed. Um and, you know, so we're not in a position where we're eating a significant cost, but I think we um
we need to take steps to do something. So, that's what I'm uh suggesting that we, you know, that we do. And as far as the information regarding registration that is um registration, licensing and
insurance. I think our our role is to advise folks as far as what the law is and to direct them to who they need to go to to get further information. I don't disagree with it,
>> but I am telling you that we're going to open a camp can of worms if we put a link to motor vehicles or anything directing them from us to them because we are going to be the culprits when they go to motor vehicles, spend their time to get to motor vehicles, get a appointment for motor vehicles and then
have motor vehicles look at them going, "What? Their system's not even set up to take a serial number. It's set up off of a VIN number." Um, so I guess what I'm suggesting is just don't put the link in there because we're going to look like knuckleheads if we do that. We're going to be the ones that they'll get mad at,
not motor vehicles. So, and then secondarily, I wanted to um bring up like who a 16-year-old kid is not going to read it, but their parents will. I can also tell you that over prior to Christmas, I uh I was part of a webinar for two meetings that were really well
attended. The the topic was how do parents safely buy ebikes for kids? And there were 50 sets of parents on there in the range of that. So now parents are now paying attention because if they go out and there's so many more topics here if they go out and buy an ebike or an
emoto you know it's the worst thing they can do um build it in their kitchen there, you know, they are now liable. I mean they're responsible for it. So parents are paying attention more than they ever have been for ebikes. So So I'm going to say distribute it to
schools. Yeah. So, a couple of thoughts just coming out of this. Uh, one, I'm all I'm all in for having a brochure, particularly for the opening, which I'll call this the openhouse day,
but I think there's other avenues of spreading this word. I I'd like to see, and I I know Exit Zero will do this free of charge, a public service double page. here's here's what the here's what the legislation is and get some information
out through uh through the media. Uh I don't know if Star and Wave will do that. I haven't approached them before, but use other other other types of media to get this out. So that if somebody Okay, maybe they don't get the brochure,
they don't read the bureau, but they they do see the public service announcement in u in this maybe even uh Kate May magazine. So I would welcome anybody's input is here here's different ways we can get
this this message besides the the brochure or distribution of the brochure to to other ways. The other the other thought I'm having here is uh can can this open house be open to uh
the whole island uh you know inviting West Kate May people inviting Kate May point people as well or is it pretty much strictly >> what they focus on Kate May >> you're checking ID >> it's a so it's a it's a >> I've promoted it though
>> it's a public it's a public meeting it's it's on it's p it's um it's publicized on the city website. Uh we've talked about it at city meetings. So I mean it's the information is out there. I think it's been picked up on as far as
through um through the through the star and wave. So it actually is going because of the the format that it is it actually is a officially a city meeting. So, um, to answer your question, yes,
anybody, anybody and everybody is welcome. >> Anybody who comes down here for a weekend a year, >> 100%. >> Yep. And it's it's a reason why we're having it. It's the reason why it's being held at convention hall as well to provide as large a venue as um as the
city has to offer for as um for folks to uh to come in. So, we may get some folks just wandering in. Um we may get um and certainly um George would welcome to you to announce at a West Kate May meeting
about our open house and let folks know because we certainly welcome everybody to uh to attend the meet to attend the open house. >> Okay. >> Excuse me. Just to back up for a minute. I just wanted to follow up on something Tom said about the uh inability to get a
reg to register an ebike. I found the same thing with insurance. I called all my insurance company, All State, asked them for a quote on liability insurance for my ebikes. Well, that was over a month ago. I haven't Yeah, I'll get back to them, but haven't heard from they
have no idea. I get the impression they have no idea how >> that's changing rapidly, actually. So, there are there are numbers of companies that are about to furnish that. If they're not already, they're about to. So, including my own company, >> they'll be happy to take your money. >> Yeah, they'll be happy. The premium is to be collected.
>> We will be selling that through the bike shop. As a matter of fact, >> wow. >> It'll be a few months till it's up and running, but that'll be a service from the bike shop. So, >> how I'm just as a practical matter, how do you anticipate this working? >> I mean, I own a bike, so I won't be renting, but my kids are in town. They
like, you know, rent one. So, so you have a rental fee for the bike itself and then you have an insurance fee on top of that, I guess. Well, that's my feeling and it may be right or wrong is my liability insurance which is huge
participation there will be registration cover. So you'll have an insurance card, but rentals are Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, you're building in a little that we're you're trying to cover your costs. >> It's a business. >> This would be a retail notic. for just sense.
>> Yeah, my bike was like 2,300. >> Mate mate. M A T E. Mate, >> I know that. That's a cool name. >> It's a very European. >> Well, not anymore, but yeah. So Tom,
your point is well made that as far as for like information for ebike registration and licensing, we just like we refer people to New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission and that is pretty much the end of it there and then let do
do the work. So it's I mean anybody can find it. Just do a Google for New Jersey, you know, motor vehicle commission. You're going to end up bouncing around. they they have to accommodate. And just so everybody's aware, the rules for the
classes of ebikes, there's class one, two, and three. Class one and two were always reg or not poor poor phrasing. They were always um considered a bicycle. Class three always needed licensing, registration, and and
insurance. And it was never enforced. I'm not picking on anybody, but it was never enforced, which has led has kicked this ball down the road and led to bigger problems, including deaths of kids. So, um I that's how serious the
whole thing is. It's that not those rules for insurance, registration, and licensing have been on the books for class 3 ebikes since 2019. I can, you know, I I live in this business. I've been in it from since I was whatever two
very very young. I've never heard of anybody getting stopped, pulled over, ticketed for a bike going too fast or being a class three. None. Zero. So >> Tom, are you when you rent your ebikes, are you going to require the person to
have an ebike license as their >> Well, the answer will be no on that because the only ones that need an ebike license would be um kids under 17 that would be required under the moped rule. So
>> George, there's actually an exemption in the >> regular license. You're good. >> Good. Okay. there's actually an exemption for rental bikes in the code. It's an I'd love to discuss oddly it's oddly phrased and maybe >> um an a topic for um
>> I mean I don't want to take us in a further in a different direction but if you look if you look in there there actually is a licensing exception in there which when you look at everything that needs to be done from a licensing standpoint for a driver's license to a
motorized bike license that they're talking about then to provide this exception in there, it does make you just it's one more it's a it is a matter that kind of makes you scratch your head a little bit. >> To answer your question, first of all, I don't uh rent to anybody under 21. And
then the new requirement is going to be >> uh with a driver's license. That's to my knowledge that is what the requirement is. So, >> by default, no, I won't have >> Yeah, because they're making this somewhat like motorcycle. I can go to a Harley dealer and rent a motorcycle if I have my motorcycle driver's license.
>> Right. and you know that's all taken care of. So, but but if they're moving in that direction, you're going to have to have a separate designation on your license for that. >> I will flat out say I will do everything within the books as I always do. >> Um if that's required, you bet I'm going
to do it. It it might mean that I'm not going to rent ebikes, but um I you know, >> okay, >> I'm not let bring this back to uh the immediate future here. uh we have two documents we
need to uh produce between now and uh let's say the end of this month because then then they have to go to the printer etc. and and Casey is uh offering to work on them. The the first one is the brochure.
Now, Steve, what I'm thinking of doing is getting a a small group together to um finalize at least a draft of a brochure. Uh but we can't have more than three
people in a meeting, right? >> That's that's correct. >> Okay. So, I'm thinking for the brochure that you and uh Tom and Jerry get together at
some point in time, put all your ideas together and come up with an overall brochure and then once you're done that, take it to me. Katie Katie can be part of that because she's not a member of the committee, right? So I would So Casey
will will work with it after everything is completed. So I think that that's fine from from this uh from this group. Um but we should also include
um the police department as well as the city manager's office. >> Very good idea. and and any before we once we have finalized everything um everything would need to be reviewed just to make sure that uh that we are
correct with all the language that we that we put in there. So we'll um I'll make sure that that is taken care of on the back end. But yeah, that's a that's a that's a good idea. Jim >> Steve, I may be able to um bring some
shortcuts to it. um part of that forum that was in Princeton about a month ago. Um if I'm not mistaken, and I'm I'll research it today and and the rest of the week, um I'm pretty sure I can get
brochures that are 90% of what you're looking for already done. So, um we can use it or not use it, but it's I may be able to get some shortcuts there. I like what you wrote, but >> Okay, that's that's fine. So look um my thought is we we have the information we
funnel it down but we need to again just it needs to be reduced to a final product um because we are on a deadline. So um and I think look I don't think we're reinventing the wheel with what you just discussed Jim because I think that we had discussions with Jerry more
or less heading up this endeavor. Yeah. >> So, I'm gonna if I I personally would be very pleased if Jerry if you continued to in that and took up the took took that up from a really a
leadership aspect regarding this issue. I'll defer to you Jim, but if you think that that is is okay for Jerry to kind of >> um >> happy to do >> now that now that we're we've kind of like coming together with a little bit more information and a little a little bit stronger. Um, >> we don't really have contact
information, but you your email has I have to find your email. Yeah, that's a contact. Okay. All right. >> Excuse me, gentlemen. I have a medical appointment. Okay. >> Well, we we we should be done soon anyway. >> Yeah. >> I have a question, George, real quick. >> Yep. >> Um, is there a name for this bridge
that's going to be installed? >> Uh, First Avenue Bridge. >> First Avenue Bridge. >> I don't think there's an official name, but that's what we've been calling it on all the project documents. They'll come up with a name. >> Yeah, I can imagine what that name's going to be.
>> Yeah. No, I'm just thinking that um do we want ebikes riding across that bridge under full power? >> No. This is every Do we want ebikes riding on the prominad? No. Do people ride on the prominade? Yes. So to me, it's always about enforcement. I would
say no. You don't want to have somebody going 20 miles an hour across the >> Okay. So let's say that that's our recommendation. How does that become a law that gets enforced? It's not just us, right? Put it in an ordinance. >> It would be an ordinance. It's I would
think with both communities since it's in West Kate May and Kate and Kate May, which is what we've >> that's what >> we have done with >> Well, would it be our recommendation that that be the case that a person would dismount before AC taking an ebike across the uh First Avenue Bridge?
wide ratio. >> It's it's 10 feet which is the recommended width so that you can not you don't have to dismount and it's will accommodate pedestrians as well as bicycles. >> Can I make a suggestion?
>> What do we think about? >> What's that? >> Um instead of saying yay or nay to ebikes on the bridge, every two- wheeled vehicle must walk across the bridge. So then you don't then we're it defeats the the issue of anybody getting run over. So >> you could also
which I suspect we will do anyway is have a speed limit on the bridge basically say 5 miles per hour. I don't know if people can hold their bikes up in 5 miles hour but let's just say 8 miles. >> You know I'm a big ebike advocate but a 10 foot wide bridge is
>> dangerous. The the law it's an alley. They define an alley. I think it's 12 feet. I don't want to go off on tangent, but I am. But uh there an alley is defined because you can ride a bike in an alley, but it's got to be at least 12 feet wide. I think
>> the the I I don't have the statue, but the NJ do rule is 10 feet. That's why we had originally made it a pedestrian bridge as 8 feet. We wanted to allow bikes to be able to ride across, which was the 10 feet rule. >> Okay. All right. And
>> so just just go just going just going by what um like I'll be used by way of example the nature trail the nature trail was completed before we started talking about or just about ready to be to to be opened up before we started discussing usage and other usages there.
So I think there's merit to having these discussions but I mean we're just we're still in the permit phase of of of the bridge. So I think um with all due respect I think we might be a little premature as far as with having that discussion but um certainly an issue to
revisit. >> Is is there already an ordinance about the prominade and ebikes? >> Yes. >> Yes there is. >> Ask that again. >> I asked if there was already an ordinance in Kate May about the prominade and ebikes and there is.
>> Yes. They're prohibited at all times. >> I had a real life situation this weekend. had a tenant in the parents had ebikes. Kids five and seven had regular bikes. They wanted to take a ride on the boardwalk and I said just know that there's a law that you can't have on
your well if I don't have them turned on and I'm just ped. I said I don't have the answer for that. I'm just making you aware of what the situation is. >> That's something that our police departments are going to have to deal with, >> right? >> And we should prepare them for that.
There's also pitfall. >> So over that go back and confirm. >> Jerry, you're going to take the lead on the brochure >> with Steven. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I missed it. >> The >> You're on a committee. >> Sub subcommittee.
>> I volunteer. >> Subcommittee. >> Okay. And the other item is the the slides that we're going to use that I'm going to use at the open house. Uh, I'll take responsibility for that and get
with uh Casey and uh with your help, Steve and Tom. Tom, if you would like >> I may be able to get you slides, too. >> Okay. I'm going to go back to uh my thought is, you know, originally when was this committee set up? What was it
mission? And and I I have all that information in my in my files. And it'll be it's a twominut so it's not going to be long but I'll have probably two slides uh on that. Uh but I'll I'll see
what Casey's schedule looks like in yours Steve and and we'll run with that. Okay. >> Sounds good Jim. and and yeah for um I think we may have discussed it at a prior meeting but two slides is essentially what um what they're looking for and that would be in that the this
the slides would be used in that introductory area which is really give just giving a real overview of what each board commission and committee um how they function candidly I think if we look at our the city web page as far as like what the the bike and pedestrian
committee is is is really going to it's going to those slides We'll uh we'll get that information from there. We'll be we'll be having that information. >> Anything else on the open house and ebikes here? Because we got a couple more things on the agenda and uh I'm
committed to have this meeting wrapped up by 11 o'clock. So >> for the open house, would it be beneficial to have example for the open house? Would it be beneficial to have examples of
different ebikes? Or is it just >> Yeah, >> because I can give the old class one, class two, and class three. >> There's there is no more class one, class two, class three. >> Well, yeah, correct. >> In the industry, yes, but not
>> I think that's what it's going to go back. >> I think but let's let's not anticipate. I think >> this law is already so confusing to folks. I think if we start talking about it was passed, but it we we think it may be changed. We don't know. We have to
deal with the law that we have that we that we have in place. So, I think that there's that's that's what I would that's what I would suggest. Um because I think it's going to be confusing enough uh for you know for folks. But,
um Tom, I I'm sure you have more inside knowledge than you know than than than the rest of us do. But in the meantime, I think we just have to deal with what we with with where we are in a snapshot in time. >> Steve, I don't disagree with it at all.
In fact, I preach that I'm seeing bike shops and advocates every single day. I'm on the phone. I'm in their stores. Exactly what I say. >> Um, but again, as much information and education we can get to the to the general consumer, they don't understand this.
>> So, we can we can talk about about that because I think it I think it's I think it's great to provide information. Clearly, this is this is a topic. It's not just us, you know, who who are talking about this. >> What you brought up with I mean, the law is the law. You're right. Those bikes that I mentioned do not need to be
there. Yeah. >> Okay. Moving right along. Uh to new business, committee members, you have anything to bring up as far as points of discussion or uh anything moving
forward? I think Steve, you and I had some discussion about reupdating this bicycle map. >> So, we did um and in part after having a conversation with the city manager um
our bike map is based off of um what we have has been u based off of the the plans that have been provided by the engineers. Bottom line is we're not in a position to be able to modify the bike
map without having some other study that would be done. So I know that um I suspect that Tom would look at the map and other um operators in town. My understanding is look at the map and
suggest other routes than specifically what is is drawn on the on the map. Um they might be soft suggestions. We have our own map. I don't even use the city map. >> So that's that's what I'm saying. But we are in in talking to the city manager's office. We're not in a position to actually update the map. So we did have
that discussion, but we were uh the response to it was that we are not in a position at this time to be able to do that. So we may have Yes, we may have an opportunity at a later point in time, but we do not have that opportunity.
some stuff just out of date >> like there is there's no longer two gaps >> when we printed it. >> So that I think we can that I know we can modify the the the actual route itself is is where we would have an issue information that may be contained on there if there's a if there's a
business that's no longer there >> like there's this bike rental company called Cape Island. Never heard of them, >> but >> they're on there. >> I'm going to bring up. You probably have my wrong address and you certainly don't have it at the right spot. So, at least the original one. So, Steve, your QR
code map thing. >> Freaking awesome. >> Okay. >> It's it's outstanding. So, we actually have it on our our um counters now. So, it's not just on the bikes, it's on the counter. So, they can >> put it up. >> That's fantastic. And if you need more
of the stickers, um >> I don't need them immediately, but you know the number of bikes I have. >> Yes. So there there are more there are more stickers available. So um you can >> code what does it link to? I'm sorry.
>> Oh, this it leads to the biking map of of KMA. So >> yes, it goes to the directly to the city web page and the bike map being on the on the page >> right in front of them. I mean you can't Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. I don't need them immediately because we're we're ramping up and it's still
>> offseason >> when when you or anybody needs them, reach out. We'll provide them. >> Yeah, you got it. >> Thanks for the feedback. >> No, it's awesome. I thought it was awesome the first time I saw it. So, >> anything else from uh the committee
members that you'd like to bring up? If not, um we have a guest here. If you have any public comment you might like to make >> I I didn't hear >> nor did I What' you say? Yeah. >> Island wide 25.
>> Island wide 25. Speed limit. I assume >> you're talking about speed limit. >> Does that include lower township section? >> Is there sentiment that we ought to be going to the county
to lower the speed limit to 20 miles an hour? in Cape May on the county roads. I mean, to me, it seems odd to be kind that Lafayette Street is
20 miles an hour and Washington Street's 25 miles. >> The other way around. >> I'm sorry. The other way. It is the other way around. >> Curious why 25? Just to keep things subdued. >> Yeah. But you know what? LSV vehicles aren't supposed to use
>> Yeah. Come on up. >> The low speed vehicles. >> Yes. >> Low speed vehicles are on Beayshore and at Sunshine Pike all the time and they're not supposed to be there, are they?
They're doing >> they're 25 mile speed limit vehicles. So >> So they're not supposed to be on a a speed limit of 35 or 40. I believe. >> Yeah, they're not supposed to go across the bridge. They're not supposed to go
down Sunset. I have spoken with Bob Church, the county engineer, about this 20 times. Um, specifically about Sunset because that's really the only route to the point. So, when they redo the road,
the plan is to re-evaluate the speed limit on Sunset. It is three different speed limits on Sunset. It's 25 where it goes through West Cape May right near Broadway. It is 35 beyond the Wicker store and then it's 40 out by Sunset
Beach which is absurd. But so we're hoping actually to get that taken care of. We're also looking at particularly in the West Cape May part of Sunset to put in uh speed tables. Uh >> to put in what? speed tables on Sunset >> like speed bumps but wide
>> speed bumps >> tables. Yeah, >> wide speed bumps. >> Right. But the the rest of the roads, New England, Shunpike on this side of the bridge, seashore, um >> row 40, >> uh Beayshore,
there has been no indication that they have any interest in doing that. They lower it on Stimson, but it's not. >> It's 25 on Stimson, but >> but it's facto. It's 35 because nobody does.
>> I can tell you on Stimson it will get repaved and it will they will also get speed tables. Yeah. >> The issue is they're waiting to we're waiting for Cape May to do the get rid of the lead lines that go to the houses on in lower that they provide out
of the water system going down. Um we have three more to do in West Kate May. Two more. That's right. We just did one. And um once that's done, Bob Church has said they have a paving contract all the time. It'll be done over the winter. So
it could be done over next one. >> So that one I'll that one will solve will be solved. >> I have a separate issue question not issue but with the new biking and pedestrian bridge going
from foul to first um are we directing people off of Broadway? >> Yes. >> How? Well, it's got to be signage because we actually are we applied for a grant to So, technically the bike trail ends at Duckies and you're supposed to
make a left on the central. That's where the bike path coming across seashore down >> Yeah. >> You're supposed to make a left and then down park. So, one thing we're going to do is we're we applied for a grant to get all those redone. Signage um and the bike lanes on Central and Park are going
to get redone. Um, if people go past there on Broadway, that is not a bike lane. That is a shoulder. That little teeny bit. And on the other side, that is also a shoulder. It's not a bike lane. So, we're going to have signage to have people make the right turn at Landis and then go down Pacific. And
then when you hit Sunset, which is um a potential bottom, we're looking at putting actually a speed table in the middle of the intersection so people can go either way. Right. Right in front of you. You can that will take care of that big old bump there. >> No, that's a whole >> big old hole. So,
>> that's a whole another project. We're going to that is getting removed. That is that's called a bay saver. It it's never worked properly. Um and it's going to be removed and that's on our project plan. >> So, there will be signage off of Broadway to land >> to get to Pacific Pacific and we're
going to put all signage and road markings on Pacific cross. We may have to put another cross crossing uh coming out of first. We're only going to have parking on one side of the street on first. We're going to eliminate the parking on West Grant. Uh all the signage leads to that.
>> I'm going to bring up a being that my one of my businesses is right there. Um that crosswalk from Pacific over Sunset Boulevard. Um I'm surprised people haven't been killed there already. Quite >> uh it's the worst crosswalk ever.
>> Yeah. And I'm >> I'm pointing a finger strictly at people on bicycles and ebikes. So, what I'm not being >> it's it's a it's it's not it's marked and it's on the wrong side of the street and the signage that says crosswalk is over in front of the wicker store. So,
it's it's not we recognize that. Yes. >> My point is it goes back to education. Education with cyclists is really poor. >> But crossing that crosswalk, they're supposed to get off their bike and walk. How many people I I can't tell you how many people I've seen ride right in an
intersection going like this. Um >> they're wrong. >> Yeah. So that's why we want to put an elevated intersection. So the whole intersection will be elevated. It'll all be striped. We're trying to see if we'll they'll be willing to put a flashing light there.
Uh or at least one with a button you can press. Yeah. I'd prefer actually a traffic light, seasonal traffic light there just because there's so many since we're directing people there, we're there will be so many people crossing that intersection more than even now. And you know there are a lot.
>> Yeah. >> I mean so yes. So we are we are trying to direct people off Broadway. I live on Broadway. I see it scares the hell out of me when I sit on my porch and watch people with their train of kids and things going down broad and I actually tell people, "Hey, make the right turn
at sixth. Get off this road and you can go this way." >> I love the the idea of that that >> Yeah. I mean, and it's it to to us, it's an inexpensive way. The least in doesn't there's not a lot of cost of putting signs in roadway markings and educating
people. And the people that really need to be educated are the people that live at the campground all granted all summer. So, we're going to have signs posted there, too. We're going to talk to to Glenn Reeves about, hey, can what can we do with that? >> Awesome. >> Okay. Any anything else you'd like to
add? Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Um >> island 25. I like it. >> Do I hear a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion to adjurnn. Second. >> Okay. Meeting is adjourned. Next meeting
is uh Wednesday, May 13. And we should have most of the stuff we've been talking about today well underway if not finished for the uh >> finished. That's a week before the open house.
>> That's one week before the open house. We should be finished. Yeah. >> We have to have everything done. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> we should be talking about >> Well, I I wanted to have my bullet points by >> We should be patting ourselves on. >> I wanted to have my bullet points by April 15th. My bullet points by April 15th.
Okay, we're off the record. >> Thank you everybody.