we just don't have any mics on so we can turn a mic on so they can hear us i guess we're going to call this meeting to order and we'll do a pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one
nation under God indivisible with all well thank you all for coming and did everyone see the agenda okay so um Paul you're first
we don't want to hold you but thanks for coming no problem you just want me to give a general update of where we stand yeah well you know we're curious about uh GPI and so so we got some proposals back from GPI i
shared them with Steve and I was a little disheartened that the price proposals came back just to prepare the grant application was like are you kidding me amounts and um I've been
playing phone tag with him i I know I talked to Steve last week and I thought I was going to be able to talk to him i have not we have not been able to talk I have not been able to talk with GPI to to really go through his proposals to find out why because I can't in my in in
my my judgment I can't justify those costs on preparing just preparing a grant proposal I got to really really find out from him okay if am I spending $5 to get a $10 grant or
am I spending $5 to get a $50 grant you know what I mean so and it's like it just is not it's not something I can recommend doing and we and I got to figure out a plan B if that's the case um so I I need
to have that conversation and um I will have that before your next meeting that answer okay and this is for the implementation this is this is to go through remember we talked about the three projects I wanted to to recommend to move forward and and this was to to
to prepare a proposal to apply for a grant i didn't get the proposal to do the work right because that's really my my next question is well what's your proposal to do the work if if this is the proposal just to prepare the grant have you considered Have you considered using
someone else i did but I I couldn't get that consultant and actually it was a consultant that prepared our last bike plan and and and I don't know whether something whether he's not there anymore his email keeps bouncing at me and so I just but I I reached out to the person
at that fir at at that firm that um because that he was part of that he's part of so I've been Yes i've been trying to Yes get us a second opinion pi is notoriously expensive no they're all the they're all we gathered they're all the
same beginning they're all the same i'll tell you a story afterwards yes they're all the same we did reach out to Steve who did this uh prior and he gave us the name of someone at his firm that I emailed but we didn't hear back they weren't responsive either so it's not
just you yes thanks yeah um so that's where that stands is i will have I I will definitely have a better update on where those stand at at at your next meeting okay well that sounds good um I've got you know somehow
I'm not surprised not and it's not your fault i mean it's just it's just incredible to all of us that that and then obviously we'll we'll we'll make some judgments based on that on how we
want to proceed forward okay uh let's see so um while we have you um there's been a for our three um projects that we we're still hanging on to which is the
update of the Kate May walk the bike bike walk um report um the second one is how to get from West Kate May to the beach safely yes and so and that was specifically looking at the Leming Almyra
corridor as and then heading that way that was that specific that wasn't the general how to get from West Kate May to there that was specifically looking at that corridor and really how Bank Street then comes out to cross
Lafayette to then go down to Cater and Jackson or however you would want to go so it's that looking at that corridor specific that does my heart good to hear you even say those words bank to decor so so and and that may be and I I had a
discussion with Steve because that kind of general route is already identified in the bike plan itself that could be potentially I'll say a low lowhanging fruit project that um
the city might you know between myself and you know get another bike expert that that helped me kind of wrangle some stuff through and maybe we just do that one inhouse at a and not spend $60,000 to prepare a proposal to to get to try
to get a grant to prepare a plan when when that's really already that's really already an identified route and I think we could probably tackle that one together i could see that yeah so so that's so that's where I'm I'm leaning
on that one we appreciate your flexibility and I because you have to I got to have a plan B and have a plan and and so Jeff um along those lines when you and I had a thought I turned it on uh Jeff um you and I when we had a
chance to talk and with keeping in mind that some of our issues are twofold one is cost but secondly getting the right people in here and being able to communicate with them um you had when we had met you discussed a a resource that could perhaps be of some assistance with
us i I don't remember the gentleman's name but um what I was thinking is maybe we connect um the city with that with that individual and if we're able Well let's let me let me just I just just I'm just throwing it out there as a as a possible
resour that that we commit to but um if we're if we're considering what our different options are I'm mentioning it because it it could be an option for us to consider and maybe we can at least just um pass the information along so it's another tool in the toolbox so to
speak um to and especially even if I if that is the way I if I have a discussion with him before your next meeting we could have a game plan yes for the next meeting so the fellow's name is Paul Mikl well just shoot me shoot me his contact information offline and I emailed him just last night saying you
know we're we're thinking about bringing up the this old application to the uh bike friendly community and um and I said and I emailed because he's this is what he does for a living i mean he's full-time for the New Jersey bike walk
coalition and he came and presented to the council he put on I was telling Dave uh uh you know an on the road education session so he's he really is available it doesn't cost us a dime for him to come down here either so which is great and he's fine coming down because he's
where's he in New Brunswick or something like that so but anyway yeah so I don't know it's probably too much information but um well send it to me and contact Yeah send me the contact information and so because I emailed them last night a little late but or yesterday evening and
said "Hey do you are are we are we going down the right rabbit p rabbit hole um with this bike bicycle friendly community?" Because the the application is 106 pages long yeah which we looked at about what eight years ago yeah and it was 52 or 55 pages
at that time so So it's really detailed and and it's got great stuff in it but Oh my gosh um one of the concerns and is what we're going to do at the corner if we're going to be routing Bank Street yeah that's not I mean that's not a that'll that's
the big issue I think and that's what I Yeah that's why the other stuff is pretty easy i use my engineering degree and we'll figure that out so that's that's what we'll do and then also factoring in eventually that police uh station is going to be done so we have to keep that in mind of the cars you
know the the police cars and stuff that won't have an effect that won't have an effect yeah so and the police cars already go down to Myra because you're going because they're traversing from West Kate May substation to Kate May so that's not that's not there yeah okay
okay yeah and and and it's in new business but um and I think I I I keep keeping everybody up to date via email but the target zero commission is is um is a now a um federal a group no it's
state and um Oh I thought it was and they've just passed a law let's see where is it here it's called Yeah the target zero commission bill was signed into law in January so we've got the state uh machinery behind us the
Department of Transportation and all that kind of stuff too so the New Jersey bike walk coalition is is salivating probably at this point you know given that we have we used to have to fight the DOT to get anything done and so now
they're they're required and that's a excuse me and the DOT commissioners uh whose name is Fran O' Conor is all behind this i I went to a Z I didn't go to a Zoom i zoomed in on their meeting but anyway yeah so it's pretty encouraging
and what are what are the goals of that zero it's it's what it's what we had in our safe streets yeah the safe streets plan we did was based on that it was part it was based in part of that was all part of that process so that's the safe streets thing then the complete streets thing and now it's it's really
called vision zero which encompasses all those other things yeah um in terms of vision zero meaning no traffic deaths so yeah so that's that's what we the preparing the plan we prepared last year was just that yes yes so there's another
grant coming up at the end of June with safe streets mhm are you guys on top of that well that's part of the discussion the the GPI wants a lot of dollars to apply for that grant so that's there in lies the problem oh okay so it's a safe
streets one okay i do have one other update for you um so Beach Avenue we will be removing the uh the bike lane that was installed by the county in front of the
Rusty Nail that block and reintroducing the parking that was there and and moving it back to a a shared shared lane just on the I'm going to call it the north side of the street the the beach side of the street will continue
to have its bike lane but the other side will be a sh you know for that block will be a a share share the the road so that we the city can get back its 11 parking spaces so I just wanted to give you a heads up that that'll that that restriping will probably be happening
over the next you know month i I I know I'm preaching to the choir but but if somebody's listening in I'm just going to say our overarching issue in Kate May is probably not traffic so much but parking and and so what bike does to that not
that I'm minimizing the fact that somebody could be killed easily with just riding in front of a car but I mean um it it's definitely a balance it's a it's it's a unfortunately a balance that we have here in in the city and that's
always going to be the balance of you know the only place that we can really make true bike lanes in many cases is removing parking and that is it's it's too hard it's happened in other places but it's not going to happen yeah it's too difficult we don't we don't really
have all their all alternatives to provide so but I just wanted to advise the the group that that was going to be happening so that you didn't drive down Beach Avenue one day and be like "What's going on?" Well it's kind of a little
bit um inconsistent anyway so what's one block right because there's the other block which is fine we're glad what we have it's like So there's a bike lane the bike lane goes away it disappears kind of comes back for a block and then it's going to disappear for a block so it's kind of it's just a lay of Do you
have to work with the county on that or is that just No the city or public works will be coordinating with the vendor to do that but we have coordinated it with the county got it they're aware of they're aware of that it will be delineated though so there will be something will be marked down there so
people that own bikes get directed a certain way and and motorists have an idea as well that they're you know we'll have signage you know for share the road will have the sheros just like the other sections of just like the other section of beach that have okay that no thank
you for that it's unfortunate that um you know that's a prime road for the green lanes you know the green markings but that's the states I mean that's the county so because that's what really guides you
those green yeah um could I ask a question yeah sure um speaking coordination just logistically um so the pro the projects like the Leman Elmyra corridor and I call it George's Bridge that combined
West Kate May and and Kate May and West Kate May are you anticipating West Kate May's going after the grants on their own or are we working together so So for for the first avenue bridge pedestrian bicycle bridge we are coordinating uh
actively uh West Kate May is taking the lead on that project so their their engineer is is working on the design i've been I've met with them several times on you know how it would affect Kate May city side um I think they have they're almost have
a draft plan done they're trying to schedule a uh it's called a it's a joint environmental meeting with the US Fish and Wildlife the D the other environmental permitting agencies to kind of figure out what avenue you have
to do um once we have that draft plan from the city's perspective already council's already kind of given that project the thumbs up on the the city side that that we'll obviously co-sign uh the permit application up to the to
the D and then once we have that plinary design we'll probably do a joint application to the to the county for for some county grant money um I think that county grant money is going to be probably a 50/50 split i
don't think that bike is is the priority programs anymore i'm not sure um but yeah we'll make an application a joint application with West Kate May on to get funding for that and we already had applied for so we're
waiting to hear back on that okay but that was up front and then the rest right okay okay so it's moving forward and we'll keep obviously if I don't keep you up to date
you've got George will George will definitely keep you up to date on forward on the Lemmyra on our own in house well I don't know if we're gonna if we do if we do yeah would that be another collaborative project or I I just want to report that's really I mean
most of that work has to be done on the city side you know on their side they have their bike route coming up up over the Elmyra street on Elmyra street over the bridge and it's really we need you know we've kind of have them we have a little sheriffs and we kind of
maybe tell them hey make the right on make the right on Venice with a tiny little sign that so so I think if we do anything that'll that'll Yes we'll make that a more formalized bike route and and figure out how we're going to to do
it okay uh any consideration on the corner lot where the theater is of doing anything with that lot i know it's a city we talked about that's we got to we'll if if we undertake that that'll we'll look at the whole corridor and see
what we can possibly do or not do okay okay all right that sounds good anybody else have any questions for Paul and All right no thank you Paul appreciate you thank you you're coming and uh
getting us up we're getting we're getting close you know the season's upon us and you know we'll continue to you know put out I know uh David's got some questions for you and so on some possible outreach and stuff like that so as we move into the season that's always
the important part is to So we're not keep the public aware but but thank you yep thank you Paul it's not um one thing I would just just mention since you're here and everybody's a chance to to hear directly from you maybe you could just give just an update as far as where the
Lafayette Street Trails stand i I knew I wanted to say Yeah so Lafayette Street Trails um they're hoping to have them open by May 15th he made that announcement i didn't um I would still try to you know they'll be open by Memorial Day in the start of
this the summer season um we are looking to have that sidewalk path uh connect from uh corner St john and Broad into the trails uh if you look at you know there's a second contract that the we're
doing the first section of Lafayette Street Park the first phase which includes the botchi ball court um the new dog park this is kind of working from I'll say the school as you would move south so it be the dog botchi ball
courts kind of in front of where the soccer is um uh and the new dog park and then there'll be an open space field and then on the south end of that there'll be a path a sidewalk path that will run
from Lafayette Street back to the uh the nature trails so you'll have two avenues to connect back to the Lafayette Street trails the park portion the dog park should be should be done by a little bit later but
by July 4th you know hopefully before the main start of the summer season great okay great thank you for the two pass that's great yes yeah that and and the biggest reason the biggest thing I think really why we wanted to connect
the rear from from broad and St john was for the school children to have them to have yeah you know not to have to walk out to Lafayette and down but to kind of keep them further away from the street and in a safer location so that was the
biggest impetus to um have that connection absolutely well which then uh allows me to segue into safe routes to school um I know I was on Pennsylvania just the other day and there's no bike
paths or anything like that is there any kind of timetable for those kind of um that was supposed to be done right wasn't that part of it i'd have to check in with the county to see where any of that stands if they're doing anything more
because there were actual bike lanes on Pennsylvania or something on our on our side of uh Pittsburgh right the really wide area that was Pennsylvania right coming across yeah the only place there's bike lanes is once you get off by going into the Coast Guard building
right but I thought the initial plans also had designated bike lanes um in Village Green yeah pennsylvania is so wide that it it either begs you the speed or it begs traffic calming one or the other sure
so yeah okay anyway I'll try to find an update for you okay thanks all right thanks appreciate it oh one quick question uh discussion at all on uh speed humps any consideration of speed humps
in the city that would be the the other that was part of the other third proposal so I mean at this point right it's going to it's going to wait okay thanks appreciate it
dave you might as well get in the hot seat wonder if the chief is coming i don't know this feels like a congressional That's right so Jeff if if I may um I asked Dave to uh to come today so for
those that aren't aware this is David Sheffler he's the recreation director for uh for Kate May and I can tell you this much um well so as recreation director he um oversees a lot of recreation programs that are taking
place in Kate May um one of them I would just mention on those every time every weekend if I walk into convention hall in the wintertime and a skate session is going on Dave's the guy who's who's who's there so he's
here Monday through Friday and he's seems like he's at convention hall every weekend as well um and lately uh when I've been looking for Dave I go over to the new community center because he's working on the community center which is going to be absolutely fantastic and is
really be a newic um opportunity and venue um for you know for folks in in Cape May the old library correct so um and since you're here and as George said it does
feel like a congressional hearing um I I'm not gonna I'm not going to steal your thunder i'll ask you just we hadn't talked about this but maybe you can even for people that are listening for folks here as well just um and it's not necessarily bike and safety but it's still wellness and and um it's a big
community project so you could give us maybe like even 30 seconds as far as with um on the community center as well i know lately you're you're still putting equipment together there and we got pelons yesterday so um and the other thing I've seen is Dave's real handy too
because he could put anything together so I think the Pelatons are pretty much what are they in a box and you're putting them together in in a community center yeah so right now we do have it open for just fitness so we haven't actually had like an official grand opening yet we used to
have requirement to What is the requirements for citizens that live here and then if say we live in West Kate May can to use that facility absolutely yeah it's open to anybody anybody yeah so you can be Wildwood you can be from Lance it doesn't matter yeah oh yeah you just show up and you No pre-registration
required you can just show up and there's fees for say I want to use the Pelaton there's that hasn't started yet because we have to get our box upgraded so the Pelatons arrive but they're not hooked up yet so after our grand open we'll have more of a concrete schedule for sure for the community center but
right now we kind of have a schedule for other fitness programs we run there so say we have Zumba for example we have some yoga classes in there we have a Pilates class we have maybe five or six different classes it is on the city website right now so okay but it's not
officially open yet the building we're still in the progress of getting the floors done the painting so it's not usable but it's on the website so you can see what kind of classes are going correct yes so it's it's usable to a degree right now we're at like 15% usable so which is great so
super it's great uses of the the building yeah yeah so we're gonna use it is we have it now we great um HV we got everything's ready to go so we're just slowly getting ready for that great opening so so it's it's remarkable the amount of work that has been done in a
very short period of time so um yeah more to come as far as announcement as far as when things are are going full you know full tilt and everything we're hoping to get them today that's like our ideal goal right now so yeah so look that was a complete aside because the the um when Dave and I were were talking
um I guess a week or so ago hey Chief um when we were talking a week or so ago [Music] um we you were having we had a discussion about you were talking about employee wellness yes and an opportunity as well to this employee wellness but
also community wellness and that evolved into a conversation about some program um that you were or ideas that you were putting together as far as whether a program that would be for employees in Kate May but also could involve the community as well and for that reason I
asked Dave to come here today because I thought we were having a really positive discussion but I thought it merited more than just he and I um bouncing ideas off of each other so I asked Dave to take a few minutes from his day come and talk u come and talk to the u to us today so I
appreciate you doing that and why don't you just take it from there yeah so we're in the very beginning stages of a health and wellness program we're going to have an event um because it's it's a very beginning stages we're our our goal time frame is in September it's gonna be
more of an employee wellness event where we're gonna invite local vendors to kind of promote their healthy program if it's um medical if it's uh some kind of health anything health related so I
thought bikes would be fantastic i mean it's healthy um I was hoping to have somebody come and maybe talk about bike safety um at this so yeah yeah i I mentioned it to Dave yeah wonderful yeah i mean we're looking for him to come and just talk
and we might even open it up to the community too because right now we're just planning for just city employees but we might also open up to community as a whole so that's still in the workings i just want to kind of flip out the past in the beginning stages we kind of start planning so yeah just on a
smaller scale um starting with the employees is Yeah but like a do it and then then expand it for the next one yeah but it actually might be employees and the community altogether but have certain booths for the employees like I
said we just started talking about this last week so it's it's very beginning stages but I thought the bicycle will be a perfect fit um thinking more of bike safety but and then I was also thinking the side note is with the community center open up shortly I thought it'd be
a fantastic idea to have maybe like a clinic on um bike safety um how to change a tube how to put air in your tires just basic one of ones a lot of people don't understand and don't know because we do have bike racks there i'm trying to make the community center very bike friendly also so we're adding more
bike racks hopefully so it's going to be very Yeah that was bike friendly and I thought it'd be a fantastic idea to as long as you can get to it yes yes that's I'm on the program side but yeah um I thought No so I thought I just thought it'd be a fantastic idea once
again if you want to Yeah pass along to your people um hopefully I'm I'm thinking spring um free clinic open to the community um just kind of cover all the basics um can handle the maps and then in the future I would love to even
start a um a bike club too a bike club club a bike club we run through the community center also too so okay to basically I'm here to introduce myself and these ideas I'm having i'd love to have you guys involved and your input uh one of my favorite things I ever did
when I was a kid we used to have a bike rodeo and I grew up in Philadelphia and they you know did a I'm sure you know what it is but Yes it was run at each playground and then you went to the district and you keep winning then we got to do it like in city hall courtyard and you won a bike at that have you guys
thought about doing something like that a a bike ride for kids in the summer no not yet no tell you it's the greatest thing ever i have very fond memories of 60 years ago doing that yeah yeah so I mean there's there's lots of ideas and I'm kind of if you have any ideas yourself I'd love to hear any of them and Yeah
kind of work with you for sure and do you do you do daycare day camps for kids in the summer we have uh yes at Quantis Park do you do little uh sports camps for them or do you We do so we have our camp km we do sports that's in-house
through our camp counselors and we also have a company come out um Skyhawks and do events at Lafayette Street Park um right now I think they're doing baseball and multisports and they'll be there throughout the summer too so and it's an outside organization that we hired in
because our rec department we don't have enough staff to teach programs per say so we bring somebody in to kind of help facilitate that so this is all on the website great y um did they talk about I don't know where the bike kits are the bike repair and is there one over by
city um by the convention center yeah there's one right out front where the other one two of them yeah where is the other one that I'm not sure of i have to I can find that out um but I'm not sure because I'm bringing that up you said you're adding more um which is great more um I would love to bike racks and
stuff but maybe by the um community center you could put one there yeah so yeah as I know there's the um bike repair stations there's one right outside convention hall yep there's another one located on the the
intersection where Madison meets um Oh farther up yeah down that end of town madison and um Michigan um Okay there's one there's nothing farther south there's one located there i I guess a a
question would be with Lafayette Street Park i'm just I'm using out loud because I know that you're not part of the design with that but that might be a good location as well to put uh to put one of these especially since we're still in a we're still we're still in a
working design design stage so before I say that there may actually be one in the plans i just don't recall looking at the plans so I'll take I'll take another look at that still there or not i'll take a look to see um it was on the back side i'll take a look to see whether it
has survived the you know the with the plan and um station it was somewhere near there off of uh the corner broad and that back weigh in which will go to the wetlands right that's where it was originally on that back side yeah so I know I mean it only makes sense there
because we've been we've been talking about um obviously having bike racks over by Lafayette Street Park but including look you know we're one of the issues that we're discussing is the use of the nature trails um if you haven't
had an opportunity to see them they're they're elevated and they're essentially contained nature trails um the trail itself is going to be 5 to six feet wide and because it's over wetlands it needs to be needs to be elevated so it's a nature trail but you can't go wandering off to your left or
your right unless you're going to go over a rail right so um we have we introduced city council introduced an ordinance to limit the use of the nature trail to pedestrian use um under
the because the the belief being that it's just not suitable for for for bikes and from a safety standpoint for for bikes and for pedestrians as well on the other hand we want to encourage people to use the park so the idea would be look you take your bike to the park you
go up to there you can park your bike right at the nature trail you can you can jump on the nature trail check out the Ospreys and go for a nice nice walk hop back on your on your bike so I know that's been part of the consideration um as well but it only makes sense to have
a an area there to um in the park to to make sure that that if somebody needs to to and and that might be a good place for the kit too yes exactly so um I'll double check with Paul i'll check with plans i have I have a copy of the plans
at home too so yeah we discussed that years and years ago with Jerry and the wife when we were talking about all back there and he was very firm and we accepted it was that it would just be a pedestrian uh walk so yeah so it's it's
shaping up um that way and um yeah it's going to be it's going to be open soon it's really going to it's really going to be um neat but yeah um other opportunities so what else do you have Dave anything else for us
that's all I have okay thank you very much i really appreciate you taking your time coming in and um I don't know there's look there's ideas that you want to bounce off of you know the committee i know Jeff I'm sure Jeff would invite
you any time to to come in yeah wonderful we can put you on our our list uh so you know when we have a meeting wonderful yeah yeah be great so you're welcome anytime thank you and by the way congratulations on your recent employee of the month award thank you so much
appreciate it thank you so I could look as someone on the city council I will tell you very welld deserved so I was glad I congratulated Dave as as well but um yeah it's on merit thank you Dave just a note sure um a lot we have a
business on the mall and a lot of our employees ride their bikes to work because they come from off the island mostly and park further away North Gate May and then ride get their bike off their car and ride it into town so they might be another audience for your
bicycle safety program to include as well as residents um as the employees that that ride their bikes to work yeah I mean maybe we can um we can always promote I guess the ad or advertisement through the business is I think there's
like there's a central hub right for there's somebody who collects other Yeah yeah so maybe we can share with them for sure it's a great idea yeah okay absolutely yeah share along to the schools i mean there's a lot of people who wouldn't know if it's for sure so Yep yeah maybe you can push too for that uh lot by the uh theater to really make
that a bike parking place um that it's a good place for anybody on their bike that they don't have to cross into Lafayette if they're just going to town or going over to the center um it's a short from there to anything really right right yeah so we're trying to You know where we're talking about yes i
think it's one quarter bank in Lafayette oh yes by 410 yes the city owns that um and that there's huge uh shrubs and everything in there that that's an easy thing to take out to open it back up again but anyway that's not your thing but just to mention low speed vehicles
and bikes right handicap parking you know put a few parking spots and then the bikes and maybe some golf carts has nothing to do with recreation that's right i'm here to listen i I have a question about the the new
park um it's probably it's not for this meeting but there's 94 spots parking spots behind the Are they going to be you going to have to pay to use them so you go to the dog park or play pickle ball you got to pay to use the parking
lot i don't I don't know what decisions have been made on that George that's a tough one because I can I can say there's reasons yes and there's reasons no because people just park there and leave their cars all day yeah yeah so I don't I don't think that has been
addressed i know that has that has not been addressed the park almost completely inaccessible if you unless you want to pay $4.50 50 cents an hour to park in the lot it's It's an interesting dilemma
a lot of moving pieces more bike riding park your car and ride from where I live coming down Myra i will die if I go to the dog park that way so if we can fix that how do I seriously how do you get down on Myra and get to that dog park
without killing yourself right you make the left at Bank but you don't want to go down you're gonna have to go to bank around then broad and then it's an it's an interesting dilemma because you can't get to that park from that side you can
get from Village Green you can come up from Convention Hall on all the other streets but you're you can't get there bird Street's not not a uh not not terrible in terms of safety it's not but you're you do that little loop you got
to go out around and then come back over here that's just this an observation as someone who actually rides his bike through that area yeah i it's it's obviously we're not going to solve this here it's just something I I mean I use
the dog park every day and I it that lot is great that the the the gravel lot where it's actually where the police station's going to be because you park doesn't cost anything there's two spots that says dog park only go in it's great yeah so the only thing I would just add
to that is the the that parking is not part of this phase of the park that's being built so right now we're taking on on the green I as my understanding is we're still going to have parking um the parking that we have have had um this
phase is taking care of the botchi court it's taking care of of the I'll call it the green the green spaces and the dog park um so the parking will be another another piece of that i'm sure we're going to have those discussions at that point yeah i'm sure you're not going to do that until you build the police
station yeah and and that's that's the other component i mean as everybody knows the the land swap was um the city got the city got a significant step of approval to go forward with the with the land swap and we're you know moving forward with that
project um so yeah that's just everything's going to need to be worked out as far as with just the traffic flow in that in that area and look some of these I'm sure that we're not the first people to be discussing this i'm sure this has been taken into consideration
to some degree and I imagine that there's some answers to some of these questions that are out there but Dave wouldn't be the guy to be responding to that right right now um we had our chance with Paul we'll get him back we'll get him back here at another point and I think probably when we're a little
bit further along with with some of these discussions as well again thank you Dave i appreciate you appreciate your time so thank you yeah George i think that it's just going to have to be that we have major
infrastructure showing that that routing is going to have to go up Bank Street you know unless they take the parking places spots out of Almara on that block right up the four broad and that's not going to happen that's the only way to make that
safer so I mean if you really wanted to have that parking is a huge problem here we could fix the bike problem in the town by getting rid of the parking spots on Omara it would be the road now has two bike lanes on both sides because you're eliminating the parking there would be
it would be plenty of room that's not going to happen and I get that because parking is more important than people riding their bikes so it's it's and we've always had it you see don't don't talk to me about change i'm only kidding i'm just being
facitious i mean spots are there you're not going to remove them without a uh a huge protest and and uh the it's interesting though because as somebody
who ride drives rides my bike and runs up and down that street at least twice a day in the winter there's not one person that parks there it's it's wide open it's it's actually pleasant i don't have to worry about getting run over right um
so you can visualize what it would look like if it was eliminated um my position always has been on parking if you have a driveway park in your driveway and there's no ownership of parking by the house that's there
it's real simple and but but I get it i mean and I honestly I'm not a council person here i just we have the same issue on Broadway at uh right near Duckies uh I mean I'd like to take those parking spots away so that there's some more room for bikes to get down right
before the little plastic cones i just think it would be a lot safer because people have to bump out and there's only about five spots and all those people have driveways so that we will have that discussed in West May also that's definitely been a long time issue because that the first the house you
referred to the house right before Glenn Reeves house uh the children they had disability van etc so there was some concession given there some leaning i actually like both sides of Broadway there even for farmers market stuff cars kind of stack up along that um the
righthand side on the Reef side yeah um after you get off of Central and then go towards Stimson there so both sides it's just it gets very congested i I think we still need to I I will when I'll let you know when I want to talk to Bob we need to put a traffic light there just for
the summer agree yeah so so so back up the bridge we can you know it can you can always go into the city but it stops the traffic going out of the city so people can make that left turn and don't block the traffic i mean it's would be a simple solution or have a study done with it well that's what I'm going to
ask for we're not We can't do anything without a study right unfortunately pay money to do that the good news with the parking on on uh Elmyra is the fact there the city wouldn't lose income on it because there's no meters you know that could always be an argument you
want to reduce the amount of I missed i'm sorry you want to reduce well just that we were talking about the solution on for safety is that block between um Venice and Broad is to take the parking out there that would then open it up
safer rather than having to reroute them around but anyway yeah I mean we there have been accidents there but the one we the one the lady couldn't drive a bicycle but there you know it does make it a little bit tight there especially if there's a new house coming i think there's going to be another house to the
left of that the house is being constructed now you know what I mean so you're talking about in front of the uh power station yeah right so we're talking about the next block oh the next block going towards Broad is taking out that park over over the bridge going toward gate going east going east you're
the bus station right down from Oh from so you want on that on the right hand side 20 spots between is it that many so going towards the bus from Venice going you all that parking there because they all have driveways
yeah that'll make that so much safer make it deacon is that that Well you know you guys come down that street i drive down that street i ride my I run down that street there's nobody parked there in the winter so so you can visualize that if you centered the road
and you put a shoulder on each side you actually would have the ability to ride a bike and my point was that every house on that block has parking for multiple cars they do and so it's it's you're both the people that the people that
park there are the people that work in town honestly correct yeah the first the first couple spots definitely are you know and and you know we had to repaint that that right there as you come off a bank onto or you know on to um Almyra there leing and coming towards Leing it's just it's right there in the corner
is tight very tight so yeah I agree okay not that it'll happen but I agree I'm only one person did they ever talk about a a satellite location to park your car and then the city runs uh shuttles in town they do have that busy for the well they do have that but I don't know if
it's for the employees But at the um Cape Elementary right during the summer time but that's the only place yeah that doesn't help from the West Kate Mesa yeah from the Westside most of them I think come in right a lot of them yeah i I literally was in I was in court yesterday with a a young lady who had 52
tickets cuz she's like I just I just have to find a place to park i park i I can't afford to pay for the meter so I just park in town and risk and she's like I got away with it all summer and 50 days I didn't i'm like well that's a lot it's 1,500 bucks so it's in other words every day she was parking every day she was parking days yeah she got
called 50 days so and there's never going to be a uh parking garage right no never is a long time never is a long time and we've discussed it i mean we've we've discussed it several times um and I think it boils down to the price of the parking spot itself i think it's around
$25,000 if you really look at the number like per stall per parking spot that's what it would cost to make i still think some some facet the bank straight bank street should have three levels of parking around the bottom of it you can have stores you can lease out the stores
I even have a name for it you can call it the reads you know what I mean not the reeds in in up there but like because you have the the fragmitees there or call it something but that's the point and then run golf carts across the street from my house yes ma'am and you know I don't have a I really don't have a problem because I I live down um
towards Naples Florida yeah and right in town and it's a small town it's probably smaller than here they have off of I'll call it the main street on both sides behind the the buildings are deck parking lots free and they are decorated
really nice you sometimes can't even realize that it's a parking garage yeah that I mean it's been talked about and we have a very new council person on there it should be revisited maybe look at some finance it the finance end of it you know public private partnership on on the land yeah on the land something
break it out a little donates the land and somebody builds it and invested so that that savings would maybe allow them to do it you do a mixeduse project mixed use put some stores down the bottom bike rental from the bottom of that bike safety some you know whatever but yeah definitely you know it's it's because
they don't think we don't we would use it all year long we go to December and we get the little break in January February it's It's a two-month break anymore we're not like We When we grew up here it wasn't like that you know I've been here a long time you know I'm 50 years old now and I've been here since I was two wow really 50 well and
as employers we would pay a premium for our employees to have a place to park that was safe they didn't have to walk all the way to the dark Bank Street yeah that was the offering to the young lady in court yesterday she's like "La you can get Jackson Street for 750 a year or you can get Bank Street for 3 something or whatever it was." Mhm i wonder
sometimes though is again devil's advocate and partly because I live across the street and it really doesn't you know if you put something attractive up there I don't have a problem with that but I also wonder if the what is it the D or the EPA because the creek is there and because of runoff I wonder if
it would be allowed anybody looked into that NIA is there is there you got NIA that's right there you I mean you have a building structure right there I mean you would be closer to the the the creek yes but I think you could structure runoff separately it floods there
sometimes on the on the Venice side of it but I think it could be done i think it's manageable again the private partnership something you know parking is the major issue in the city right we better get it in now with the ad this current administration in the nation
because if if parking if if addressing parking were an easy issue it would have been resolved a long a long time ago either that or redo the parking lot it's just it's not maybe it's not it's not striped at all but maybe pave it and stripe it correctly get some angle Bank Street Lot angle the parking get get you
know and then put in a parking attendant there and say you know you can park here for a certain amount and over the next couple years take that money and that revenue and start putting it into the project or a five-year project we can get a parking garage but it's going to cost us you know where's that revenue go city just has to bite the toilet what
about the space where the welcome center is if that was torn down and reconfigured as a parking garage we don't own that but we we own the building actually New Georgia Transit owns it we lease it from them oh I didn't know that that's the issue there so you know we you know the in that new
building there uh MAC is going in there so where the bus depot is you're referring to that one yeah the bus depot there that is going to be a portion of Mac is going in chamber where the chamber used to be the bus depot yeah yeah and what about where behind Collars the city owned a lot that
where there's already Jackson we heard that was doable on Jackson Street or you talking about Jackson Chestnut by the liquor store you're saying what redo it not putting a parking garage thing oh yeah i mean I think the biggest thing I think we have locations i think it's
just getting parking garage into the conversation is because it's it's an expense who's going to pay for that and I when I when I met with the mayor four years ago it's one of our ideas we thought about and he's like he he had a number i got the number from him from Zach and it was about $25,000 a spot but
again you know parking is so limited in this town and it's dangerous and we can kind of curtail it all to there if if Jackson they were listen when we looked at the police department when I did um the study on it and I had to sit in front of um council and I had to front in front of the state they asked me for
different locations that we could put the police department one of the one of the recommendations was Jackson Street oh you know what I mean so if you're willing to put a police department there wow why not put a two stall three stall something you know that kind of doesn't kill your landscape as you come off Jackson coming past King's ice cream
looking into Westcape May like you're like can't even see Westk May anymore she's you know like two stories at least get you know that's a big parking lot it's a big It would make sense for businesses there rather than on Bank Street you know who's the Bank Street i mean the walk from Bank Street i see
young ladies walking back there after they get done working at the restaurants it's It's kind of dark well I have is my employees have issues walking back there at night yeah i I wouldn't want my daughter she works at Taco the lighting needs to be redone yeah lighting and different things across there you know i mean it's also in consideration of the
residence because right now what lighting they have is just Yeah yeah they could definitely but definitely discussion something maybe you know council bod you're in favor of revisiting parking garage absolutely yeah i'm absolut I mean there's got to be we have to have some
solution question is do we really want to they're coming anyway they're coming anyway if it's not one of those is Kevin Cer if you build it they will come they're coming they're here they're here um I'm that old okay okay and we are
grateful that they're coming we are listen we we we've arrived i mean listen I you know I like when things turned off in September October and we had tumble weeds going down the street and put the lights on i I remember when so it was nice to get our town back but we don't get our town back thursday's a new
Friday sunday's the the layover monday's like "Yeah we'll just stay another day you know so we're definitely in the top top realm which is good it's not a bad thing people love to come here we have to accommodate for them you can't say "Oh we we're not we're not dead like we
used to be from September on we are busy." A lot less traffic if people weren't driving around and around people circle that mall 15 times on average just looking for a spot and then they give up that were eliminated and that adds more danger because then they get more frustrated and then they're not looking at pedestrians and bikers yeah
they're looking for a parking spot where they're waiting they're holding up the line cuz they're wait oh that guy's backing out so the city has tried to um urge use of the shuttle service and expanded the uh the shuttle service to make it deeper into the season as well
um the shuttle service runs regularly um I think the use uh has increased over the past couple of of years and it provides a good opportunity for people who are coming into the city particularly from
um off the you know off the the parkway side into into Kate May to go straight down Lafayette have a place to park your vehicle and utilize a shuttle that will pretty much drop you off anywhere
somebody would want to go in Kate May um jump back on um and the cost is there's no cost for any of the users um additionally there's been advances as well um I'm looking as I look at the
bike map here you know I think that you know I know we had I believe we had a flyer as far as with um what the routes were and we've um for the for the Jity routes for the shuttle routes um I know the city has constantly look looked at that to let's say massage the routes to
make them more um user friendly for where people want to go and there's an app as well that people can download visitors or residents can download and look at the app that will let you know where the jity is is located um I know
we did studies as well to try to make sure that you the the wait time would not be that extensive for uh for people who are using the um using the shuttle service and I know feedback we've gotten from people that
do use it is that it that it's positive and it it does save people that opportunity from driving around town the issue comes up and it's the same issue that we face with people who um as far as respect toward bikes you know it needs to be a change behavior you know
we've been tried to encourage people to use the um to use the shuttle service as much as possible but just as people may be committed from going um say um having a renting uh um or staying in a hotel
room um say like by Madison Avenue and deciding that they're going to drive into town and look for a parking spot there as opposed to walking or biking into town you know we need to be able to to change that behavior to say use you know either walk or use a shuttle as
opposed to taking your car and driving threequarters of a mile into into town and circling with everybody else it's the United States everybody likes to be in their car right and that's what and that's what happens so I know we've we've tried to change that behavior i know we encourage that this this group
tries to encourage that um and the city itself I know we've tried to do what we can to maximize space and add parking spaces um a couple examples as as well is the municipal lot is um now user user
friendly for um for visitors that are particularly going going to the mall on on weekends um and hours when employees aren't aren't working at city hall um there's some construction going on right now on
Franklin Street that's going to add Chief Ramsey's eight eight I think it's eight additional parking spots that's going to be that's going to be added there so I know it may sound small in the grand scheme of things but by adding the spots in the municipal lot adding
those add a eight additional spots I mean on the horizon will be additional parking spots at um at Lafayette Street Park as well um and I know efforts have been made to try to capture as many parking spots as we possibly can in town
to at least maximize that particular space the other discussion as far as where is it going what other solutions that are out there i mean candidly look a a parking garage has been a topic of conversation off and on for you know for a long period of time
right now is there anything going on with a commitment to a parking garage i mean the commitment is trying to maximize locations within Kate May to to utilize our parking that that's where the commitment is and I know the focus is on getting the additional um spots in
Lafayette Street Park and I know that our efforts as well have been to make the shuttle service as robust as possible so and I would I would also just add to that I think that there's still opportunities to make that even more robust um one of those
being the In a in a perfect world if if I'm a if I'm a if I'm a store owner um on the mall um I don't want my employees being parked anywhere near the mall um because I would want customers parked
near the mall now of course I want my employees to be to be safe but in an ideal world there's a location where they're able to park their vehicle that would be away from the mall and also be more convenient so there isn't traffic coming into the middle of town and also
a location that they can park and a bunch of people can jump on a jump on a shuttle and be able to go to go to the mall i would be happier as a as a shop owner knowing that there's going to be turnover of parking spots which gives additional customers who are happy walking into my store as opposed to
being frustrated when they walk into my store because they spent all this time driving around trying to find a parking spot and I would also be happy knowing that my uh that my employees were being taken care of in in some in some manner so that that is available now they
employees can park there is it is it the most convenient solution well no the most convenient solution is you can you have your own private you have your um you have a place right in front of where you're where you're working to park but this is Kate May we don't have those
opportunities we have a we have a business district that has only a limited amount of parking spots whether we have a whether we have a garage or whether we don't um so we need to I can say this we're we the city from my experience the short time I've been on
council but also in opportunities I had through um other other work that I've done with with Kate May i know we've explored parking um to a great extent and I'm not saying that any option is necessarily off the table but I'm just
mentioning that because these are these are some of what we're focusing the city is focusing on now to try to to try to maximize that just wanted to add that to the to the conversation for years we've been big proponents of the shuttle service and still are and in the past we
we've also gotten like a review from the shuttle um companies of I guess it's called a jitney now um of their their wrership kind of a demographic who's using it what's the most popular route is there any way to get that information from them this year about last summer so
we can kind of look at that i don't even know what the current shuttle hours are to tell you the truth so I I'll think that's I'll check so first off afternoons right it's it's 4 to It's only like four o'clock on or something like that
i mean I thought they and there is a a start stop period um so I know that the the days of the days I'm sorry the season was extended to this past year and I don't have the information right in front of me the um
well actually take this in order first as as far as as far as whether there's information regarding the use i can check on that i don't know um I would have to check on that to see what information is available on that um the other is those are 100% those are
legitimate concerns and part of it is educating people meaning just or informing people as far as what when it's available and trying to maximize um well if we want people to use it it needs to be available of course so um
adding the hours adding um extending the season as necessary I don't recall I think it did stop I want to say after after Christmas chief I mean we because in January and February it simply isn't necessary for you know for it to be running at that point in time um so I
know that we you know the city gets it gets it up and running again um I do know that they it does get promoted through social media um I think that there's other efforts to promote the fact that it's that it's out there i think we need more signage i think we
need to I agree we need right even at that parking lot i mean you start when you come in some sort of signage but it's really easy to drive right by there there's not a big sign for the parking I I agree i agree i think that
um I believe that city could do more to promote uh promote that and um to get it to get it to be utilized but I think it's it also needs to be I think a community endeavor um particularly for the people
that have businesses in the city as well um you know a customer somebody comes in and they talk about being frustrated about having a having where they can park in town um it's an opportunity to have a conversation with people as well you know we ask where they're from we ask where they're going to dinner
tonight we ask them if they're having a good time in Cape May you know it's part of our you know it's it's part of what we do as well to say "Hey if you're having trouble finding a place to spot look at the elementary school that you went by on on Lafayette Street you could park there all day you can drive around
Kate May i hope you do it tomorrow and then you know come on back into my store love to see you back in your in here and uh you know looking over our merchandise again." Is there any signage at all when you come over the little bridge um on Lafayette that says free parking
there there used to be right there in front of the meadow not the meadows where's that the condimenting you know there used to be a blinking sign that had different things you know racist week whatever if that said free parking at elementary school one block that
could really give people enough time to think about it say "Oh let's park there." But I still think as soon as you come in there should be some sort of signage you know I think there's less now than there was yeah um on that little island
because I know when I go into towns you the first thing you start looking is parking and are you looking for a because a lot of them will have a sign that free parking so I know I do know that it's um not responsive to that issue but as as far as because another
question had come up is where are the pickup drop off spots um to me they were very noticeable they were changed this past season they're kind of like a tennis ball color uh type of sign like a a green yellow very obvious um which it
they really stand out compared to what had been up there in the past and cuz face it we have a lot of signs in town you know um so it's nice to have something that's a little it it actually distinguish itself from from the others and if I'm if I'm aware and looking for
it it it's very easy to uh to find that but that's a which it's a val it's a valid point though as far as to promote that add additional additional signage so and that same coloring could be used for the free parking sign free parking
and shuttle agree 100% we need to be consistent with our message if we want to promote this we need to be we need to make a commitment to this um and making that commitment means everything that we're we're talking about here as far as promoting
it um informing people about it and uh you know the other part of it the hours as well you know if we I'm a big proponent of I had already mentioned about I think that this would be would be an ideal situation for us to work with employees that work in the middle
of town well if employees are working until the we hours of the morning then the shuttle service obviously needs to be available to work for the employees we don't have that now but that could to me that could be part of the discussion
as far as how we um can better use the the Jity service and be responsive to to the city is the signage at the elementary school is that an issue with the school district in in the signs on
their property i you know I don't there's something we need to do yeah support steve I'd be happy to work with you i'm a liazison to the business improvement district on the mall so I'd be happy to
work with you or anybody to to look at our issues and maybe come up with a better schedule that would work for employees because we close at 10:00 by the time they get out of there it's 10:30 you know it's important that they have a safe way to get to the to the
parking lot that would be great i um and I would what I would like to do is um loop our deputy mayor Moren McDade into the discussion she has um spent a lot of time a lot of energy um towards
the making the Chityney service um more robust and to work as as well as as it has um I've worked with her on that but she's been a real force as far as getting that to move to move uh in that direction so we can continue with
that discussion hear I hear nothing but good things from people who are on the beachfront um and hotels and then people who are renting you know homes they love it and it's great for them what we need to concentrate on are our merchants the business people who are working on the mall and then the day trippers the
people are just here for the day that they know about where they can park so those would be the two other groups that are not okay knowing about it I think okay that sounds great and you know it's from a merchant standpoint look and I I respect as well look an employee may
roll their eyes and say "I'll take my chances in in town but that's a conversation to have with somebody." And if it if it comes down to well I risk getting a ticket in town as opposed to I have a I don't even have to feed a meter i have a free place to park my car that's going to be to be safe and I
don't have to go through all the like all the issues that come up with trying to find a parking spot for a you know a 3 a shift that begins at 3 at 3 p.m on a Saturday um you know sign me up that's that's what I would want to do and I'm I'm confident that our merchants can
have good conversations with the employees so yeah um I would welcome the opportunity to take this conversation forward thanks i think there was last year there was a mention um in changing the lighting on Bank Street down to the lot do you recall that does anybody
recall that it was discussed somewhere um right i mean that would be helpful um low lighting dark sky so it says chief is going to give us an update on the traffic
enforcement plan oh good same as it ever was we're going to continue doing our process myself you got your mic thanks give them the rules of the road again pardon me sorry Doc um give them the rules of the road again we met with the LSV companies uh just if anyone didn't hear me um just
trying to get them back in shape um to where see if they need anything if they had any different plans or any issues moving forward into summer because that's just that added traffic to our town that we you know 10 years ago weren't used to so now it's back so um they all seem to comply they had a lot
of questions just on you know what we could do better uh we offered them some information on safety seats um not that that pertains to this but child you know that's our big pet peeve so we're going to definitely I I told them I said we're going to definitely increase our enforcement on that end of it um we have
a new summer sergeant coming forward i will make sure that he in increases his um staff's enforcement and the patrol division sta uh enforcement on bike safety helmets rightway wrong way travel um it tends to become cumbersome um stopping them on a car but we'll we'll
do our best to increase that um the bike plans again just people come and they just want to go and they don't really read they don't really read it all the time and they're kind of in a hurry and I just try to encourage people to slow down and smell the salt air um any discussion on that bridge how far out
that is as far as the bridge is that Yeah um we don't initialation of the lots but for P to come in and give us our green lights yeah that'll that this hopefully we'll get that in the next month or so okay
but once we get that it's just a matter of applying for the grants and Yeah because I mean I actually my my son started he worked in in town last year and he works at the Ocean View and um you know he's like that I want to ride my bike he's 16 he's a big boy he's 6'2 but I'm like listen we'll this summer
I'm let I see young kids driving from lower township over the bridge into here popping wheelies on the beach front popping wheelies so that's my biggest draw this year we're going to just start hammering them so if you're listening we're going to start hammering you with tickets um it's a pretty clear path to
the to the ocean view it definitely if you're coming off island it's all bike yeah he's coming from Lower Township and you know Grant is safe i want him off Broadway i mean Broadway's just my it's just so it's just so dangerous um you know but again like I said I have to
drive with him this Saturday when he comes to work we're going to drive over on the bikes and you know um I want him to go a certain way down Park Boulevard and down you know down Grant Street and down to work um but there's a lot of intersections across so um it's going to be a very busy summer it's going to be
very congested again last summer I could not understand why we had so much backup on Seashore Road on the Broadway like it was such a backup like getting out of town like it was like it's normally that way when when it rains like oh it's going to like the beach is about to close people are getting kicked off the
beach and it's going it was every day I couldn't understand what you know people the day trippers I guess I'm assuming coming in eating beaching leaving but it was just you know can we can we coordinate with lower to have the light like if we know there's a a storm coming in and everybody we know everybody's
leaving the beach can we coordinate with the police can you hold the light so we can everybody the problem there is we you know we do it for the Christmas parade we do it for fireworks um and staffing on my end you know it's not as easy as to send someone out there lower they'll
do it for us if they have availability and put a a cop out there um then they're like "Oh we'll call the DRBA." Then the problem is the DRBA has a car because that very road and intersection is theirs technically so um it's something we I'm going to try to get a better handle this summer and try to see
where you know where the issue is and if we have to shoot a car out there and just hold a light ourselves you know I have two um issues uh well not issues um last year you
assigned Last year you assigned uh one of your officers to tabulate the um accident reports and that's ongoing it'll beef back up again in the summertime yeah i mean our system
right and probably best to do it get a better idea right service of alcohol and a lot of people that do alcohol is very popular so they'll start
with one I know that's crazy have you ever pulled anybody over for a DUI on a bike we actually we haven't correctly you can't get a DUI on a bike i didn't know that i thought you could so
so disorderly conduct or something or listen there are traffic summon on a bicycle for going the wrong way driving recklessly yeah absolutely but you can't not be a motorized vehicle huh can a city come up with an or the city come up with an
ordinance and just have a city thing no you can't go over yeah the answer to that is is no um I say it as a former pro former prosecutor so right um but you the the state has the state has
taken jurisdiction over that particular issue they said that we can't come up with our own statute to say um there's you're prohibited from being a certain blood alcohol content level on a on a bike and it
would not be um it would not be an enforcable ordinance so the is the is the short answer to that i know in the past that I've seen and I'm not sure if it's our state or not is that that and maybe this is apples and ardans but one of the ordinances some towns come up
with is you can't ride your bike on the sidewalk i mean normally you can that's why we don't have any bike but that's not there's not a state law that says you cannot ride your bike on but the city they can come up with that so
yeah you you can have something like that but really Yeah no I didn't know that mhm i don't know how a tourist knows that but Right yeah people riding the street going the wrong
direction the right way so they're coming from both sides yeah yeah and the Yeah yeah and the issue is look I know and it's the it's the hand in the in the velvet glove right i mean when um when it it's seen the the first step is to
try to take corrective action on the on the other hand you don't have an you don't we don't have police officers on every on every street on every corner so you know we all know that but everything that comes about the heavier we are the better we
are you know It's something [Music] and you and you also reinforce good behavior with the kids right i mean you do that all the time as far as with the program that way
yeah it's great we supply we buy from Walmart okay and then the other thing which I'm beating a dead horse is the bike lights on the rentals and bike lights uh period that that doesn't seem to be happening you know yeah people who drive with dust
at night and it's hard to see them again for us to step up and stop them at least the education piece of it bike stores and we did go to them a couple times again
because again that's federal law it's federal law what bike that's our office oh I mean there are bike lights that re recharge and one of the excuses was from the bike shops was that oh we only rent
during the day well they do a lot so if they know that they're going to rent them for the week then you give them a bike light that'll go right on there yep you know and there are bike lights that um uh have a a jack on them a USB that
you can recharge them i have them i just keep in in the garage and so it's not like our police bike same thing we charge them every day right so I had to get on my own staff last year because they were forget they put them on i'm like I come in town after I work all day i come back in nine o'clock at night and just drive around like I can't see you
they can't see you i can't see you yeah so it's definitely got to start there yeah for now that's what I have like I said we can circle back midsummer i'm not sure when your next meeting is between summer and now um but it would better I can't give you good numbers as far as um
you know accidents and bike safety as far as that maybe in midsummer I can do that or even towards the end of summer but we will you know it's calculated every you know at every call every contact they have every accident is that way so um definitely enforcement is key we need to continue it and we will
okay thanks i got to pop out to another meeting anything you need let me know um it's very good seeing Mr bodner on this committee you guys good seeing you after the long winter it's been a long winter so hopefully wherever you were you were warm i'm almost back i'm going back to this afternoon just
for a couple of weeks then I'll be back to bug you thank you Chief thank you thank you um I think that pretty much does it um yeah we've done we've done just
about everything uh the bike map you guys are working on right working on we don't we did we get an answer on funding for the bike map i forgot to bring that up when Paul was here no no all right um so we'll have to just check in with Okay
you want to do that or would you like me to do that for you or um Yeah I mean I can do that we would like that mhm thank you yeah i think a while ago I had found some stuff from Merl the cost that I had forwarded over to you but that was years
ago for the initial the initial and and the U QR code initiative you guys nothing okay all right tabled tabled okay so the maps will have it yes yeah but as
far as you know this go circles back to wayinding and having that around and you know and then changing behavior as Steve was talking about people knowing that it's there they scan it and uh they have a map of the
Cape Island are you you're referring to a QR code that takes them to the map yes okay yeah yeah i think that would be huge given what people do with their phones now and Yeah and not with paper yeah i have a tech question on the on the QR code so what we did last year or
so was the police chief had put up a bunch of signs around town about some sort of rules it was just a and then we had made a little strip um that said bike map a sticker had them made that we
put on there so that QR code when we change the map do you then have to update that QR code or can you use I don't know tech how that works you know what I'm saying the QR code and you're changing the map
where the link is it's automatically yes okay okay yes because it's just a link it's a link and if you're going Yeah okay yeah so it show you should just leave that you should just leave that mic on because someone's
listening and they're not going to hear us i know it's scary thing but yeah so yeah just to reiterate to the public anyway um that there is a QR code out there and when the map gets redone um it will update it automatically so it's not like
we have to it's going to be dated or not yeah works good works well um next meeting when do we uh when do we think we should get together next month i mean we're we're heading into the uh I didn't write it down um I I Yeah I think I
looked at the calendar i'm just going to be getting back so I'll be here um it would just be the regular next second when is that 14th 14th i'll make sure I'm back there it is
i have it on my calendar and then approval of the minutes i make a motion yes uh do we hear a motion to approve i'll make that motion we got a motion from
and a second second second second all in favor i opposed any corrections needed i thought they were well done nice job thank you nice job we didn't talk about
the um sidewalk but that's all incorporated into Yes what the grant money is yeah that's grand it's a new big grant was that a federal thing that came out um and they included sidewalks in it
uh well they're doing a I think they have grant money for the uh sidewalk improvement uh all through town but there's still something recently I was federal or state if it was part of but
there was a mention of the sidewalks too too bad we don't have Jim here i don't know what happened to him even about that no worries no we're about finished um we're going to meet again next on May
14th and um Steve I don't know if you were here um if you had stepped out um I was talking to the police chief about uh bicycle lights from the rentals okay y There we go i'm already on
there okay all right i'll entertain a motion to adjurnn make a motion to We got a second out there second second all in favor i thank you guys