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e e e e good even good evening everyone we have have a regular meeting here of the City of Cape May uh city council we are here in the Cap May City Hall Auditorium
today is Wednesday February 19th 2025 the time is now 3 5: p.m. please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to
the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all under the open public meetings law notice of this meeting was sent to the K County Herald in the Press of Atlantic City and a copy of the agenda was delivered to each member of city council
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unavailable roll call council member Balman here council member Bodner here Deputy Mayor McDade here council member Meer is absent mayor mullik here we have substitute solicor Paul baldini is present city manager diet here Deputy
manager rigs here Deputy clier Turner here and Council I believe there may be one deletion this evening is that correct the if uh believe uh it's going to be 202 2025 resolution authorizing a change
order to the contract for the audio upgrade for bid for convention hall to visual sounding we were going to remove it for tonight yeah that is what I heard if that is not the case yes yes okay so would we have a motion to remove I'll make the motion I'll
second um and with the idea that we would bring this back after just some discussion yeah okay we have a motion in a second any questions or comments roll call Deputy Mayor McD here yes sorry worries council member
Bodner yes council member Baldwin yes mayor mullik yes any other additions or deletions this evening anything Council no okay okay on the updates old business city manager uh thank you I just wanted to say you know a lot of our
construction projects even though we've still having some cold weather they've been moving along pretty well um the nature trail project uh continues and is on schedule uh hoping to have uh you know that opened up before the summer season the uh we had a preconstruction conference
for the uh next phase of Lafayette Street Park um contractor seems like he'll be able to start mid-march um have Al probably say 75 to 90% of the park will be done by July um
the only thing that might hold up uh is there's three Pavilions in the uh Park area that he's constructing uh that has they have like a 14 to 16 we lead time so they were looking to get those ordered this week or next week and then
that'll really just be the final piece of the puzzle um but if they get them they'll have them installed but they're looking like before July that that Park portion which is the dog park bot courts and the open space area as well as a sidewalk connection from Lafayette
Street Park back to the nature trails um Ohio Avenue is constructions moving along they moving on the water main installation and and moving that along so that project is on schedule and that'll be uh opened up well before uh
the summer season starts so construction projects are moving along pretty well it's great that's all I had thank you thank you and it has been cold so we we appreciate those folks working out there in the cold city solicitor yeah I I do want to
mention Paul Paul sorry if you could thank you a little louder okay it's anou between your police department and asenda it's paid for by the state uh it's really a great program to see you guys move in that direction is really
the future of where law enforcement would love to go and that is not having to arrest everybody but get people into the services and help that they need and to get the state finally putting some money up and you guys getting your share of it that's that's a great idea that's
great for what it's worth do you want to update us on any other other uh legal matters in the city of Kate May tonight that was it thank you very much for coming tonight my pleasure I guess we could wish uh best of luck to our city solicitor Chris Gillan Schwarz is
hopefully having a baby sometime soon we we absolutely do wish him the best and I'm sure he's enjoying his time thank you thank you maybe not his wife but no thank you uh city council any updates or old business no actually I I do I have a um
an update from the environmental commission actually on a couple different matters one on the Columbia Capstone project and also um on the water audit so um first I just want to I guess discuss a little bit about the the col Columbia Capstone project I think
we've all fielded some questions um about that um and for people that just because it is something different um something unique um the bottom line is a it's a it's a project that is going to
provide and designed to provide the city with information um regarding water consumption and water need as we move forward with the design of a water desalination plant um the information
that is developed through the Capstone project is they're going to U prepare a complete presentation they're going to do their research they're going to do their analysis they're going to provide that information to the city and in turn we can provide that information to the people who are actually designing the
desalination plan so they're not designing a desalination plant but they're going to provide information particularly on um on on use um and need um regarding uh regarding water so I know um I've received some questions
about who are the people that are actually involved in the project out of Colombia um and although it's under the umbrella of Columbia University um it's it consists of the group of people who are working on this project are it's our
faculty but also um people who have been involved and worked in urban planning and in nuclear engineering as well and they've been been involved in other projects um in other cities uh for instance I think New York Los Angeles
itha New York are just three of the Cities I think there's some others as well that they've involved in in those proess uh those uh projects um the nice well there's a number of positives of this project for the city in addition to
the information that we get from these skilled and knowledgeable um individuals um is it's costing the city nothing for us to uh to get this information that we can use um as far as the status of where
the where the project stands I know Justin um and Paul have met with um with the the faculty and the and the students involved in the project U Rob Kaminsky has been involved as well um Joe from um from the water
plant has also U been involved on that involved in in meetings and um I know I've been involved on at least one of those calls to this point all I could say is I think these have been very very productive conversations um to the point where they
have divided this uh I guess their their tasks into four groups they're focusing on looking at Finance um funding of the project I know we've discussed funding of the detonation plan but they're going to be looking at this from their point
of view including looking at other Grant possibilities that may exist for for funding um plant operations they they're going to be looking at the existing plant uh regarding longevity of the existing plant as well as when we do the
design of the new plant um what would be the best practices for uh for that new plant um also stakeholder engagement um part of that is regarding um demand reduction and
educating people regarding what we're doing with water um uses of water um and the last area is sustainability uh regarding having quality Dr drink drinking water hydrology ecos um
ecosystem services and aquafer protection so they're looking at four key areas regarding uh regarding their research so um that brings me to just the other point and that's the the water
audit which is another area that I think we've all have received some questions regarding uh regarding the water audit so um first and foremost I would say this that we are actively looking for people to participate in the water audit
um the water audit fits in with the Capstone project and fits in with um This research that will be uh handed over to the city because that uh the the water audit is going to provide
information is designed to to provide information on demand and water habits so um in other words how are we using how are we using water individually so if you had had a chance to look at the audit um online um it
does look like it initial first blush that it may be lengthy but you'll see that most of the questions are yes or no questions and just talk about your having you just answer what your habits
are as far as using using water um the reason we're looking at this now the question has come up as far as like why don't we do this in the springtime when there's more uh more usage of of water is that the the Capstone project is is
taking place right now so um if we gather information in the spring it's not going to be helpful for the project so they've said that um Columbia has said that the information that we can that is provided to them now will be valuable for them in the um in the
project so um I mentioned about you know doing the water audit um would ask that that um residents um homeowners participate in the audit you can find a copy of the audit um on the city website um look
under the well Kate May City site boards and commissions uh click the um environmental commission and there's a water audit button there and we'll be grateful and and it will help the city and will help the people that are designing the desalination plan that's
great thank you very much that's all very exciting okay any anything else Council okay on to the Washington Street Mall business improvement district proposed 2025 budget yes Council to start with we have
resolution 902 2025 a resolution authorizing the reading of the 2025 annual business Improvement District budget by title only do I have a motion I'll make a motion do I have a second I'll second and just for the Public's uh notice we were presented this uh at the
last council meeting roll call please Deputy Mayor McDade yes council member Bodner yes council member Baldwin yes mayor mullik yes and mayor there is a public hearing on that budget tonight this evening okay is anyone here wishing
to speak on the uh business Improvement District budget 2025 budget seeing none we'll close public comment do I have a motion on 9102 2025 I'll make the motion do I have a second
I'll second questions or comments roll call and just for the uh record that is a resolution adopting the Washington Street mall management company business improvement district annual budget for 20125 sorry about that no worries Deputy Mayor McDade yes council member B
yes council member Balin yes mayor mullik yes all right moving on to ordinances for introduction this evening Council we have 552-2022 any questions or comments
Council roll call deputy mayor mcde yes council member Bodner yes council member Baldwin yes mayor mullik yes 55322 a bond ordinance providing for various improvements to city- Owned buildings and grounds buying in the city
of Kate May in the county of Kate May state of New Jersey appropriating $2,200,000 therefore and authorizing the issuance of $2,952 38 bonds or notes of the city to finance part of the cost thereof do do I
have a motion I'll make the motion do I have a second I'll second so uh this was uh given as a public presentation at the last meeting by uh Mack um but given that it's uh a little different than some of the things that we've done in
the past we have second reading at the next uh not the next meeting but March 18th thank you March 18th uh but if I'd like to open it up for public comment if anyone wishes to speak on this uh ordinance be happy to hear from you at this
time Mr Rous there there're just some questions and I've talked with uh with our city manager um as as I as I understand it the
um I gota get my my leg here um the $2.2 million that's that's going to fund the improvements for for mac and it's going to be done I as I I Now understand under a 10-year Loan program as opposed to 20
years uh the bonds will show 20 years but the the pay out or the pay back if you will corre it's 10 years and uh that was not clear in the information that we received and I don't know Paul if you want to comment further on that well I
mean the bond is required under statute to be because of the useful lice of the improvements to have a 20-year life so that's how the bond was set up but that was part of the um letter of intent and agreement that Council really that's what council really wanted the a 10-year
payback and I think Mack was agreeable to that and that worked within their their program too so uh that'll be part of the final agreement that we'll have as we move forward thank you and it's also my understanding that the cost
associated with what I'll call the the partnership in this project that part of it which is would normally be associated with Mac they will be paying that in some form of re re reimbursement back to
the city so this the tax payer frankly won't be funding any of any of their costs um and um it it's also my understanding that when this when this project goes through
there is the opportunity that it be done uh with uh uh without paying Union wage rates that'll be under under a different program
I don't know whether that's true or not um I understand that that is a possibility because it's being done by Mac no I because it's a still a public facility they they I'm pretty sure they still pay prevailing wages on their projects that would be a shame because
there'd be the possibility of doing it for considerably less money um uh since there'll be a number of different contractors uh maybe there'll be the opportunity to uh to do it without with just paying
prevailing wages or you're saying no they're most likely I mean they're current projects that they do they pay prevailing wages on on the projects so yeah there's no Savings of money on the labor costs there the the process as I understand and correct me
if I'm wrong Mac will be designing putting it out on bid the city will be reviewing it however this is a project done by Mac with it with basically oversight from uh from the sideline by the city is that is that correct
yes okay the will will this will there be a u uh a project manager or a management company that will be oversight over overseeing the the project Mac has professional staff their architect of record will oversee the project similar
as if it was a city city project and we have our architect reviewing the project so yeah they have professional staff reviewing and inspecting the project and then when they have buil you know when they request reimbursement we'll review that and we'll also once we start the process
we'll sit in on some of the project meetings work meetings with the contractor just to keep an eye on the project from the city standpoint and I assume also that the city will be following the normal inspections that they would do on on any project along
with a CO at at the end so that that we'll know that that all the work that is being done there is being done in accordance with our regulations Ma on all the different projects that they've gotten in the past and I they will continue to receive their the
appropriate uh construction permits great thank you very much thank you anyone else on uh sure speaking of Mac Jody Alison Dre Kate May Mack I can be a little more specific um the the
projects that City Bond would match the funding for would be New Jersey historic trust funds so essentially with the historic trust about prevailing wage there's a general understanding that public projects have prevailing wage and if you're using Public Funding through
Garden State preservation act funding it then obviously you're going to have that uh but when it comes to the project and project management um the trust would really be doing the heavy lift on behalf of the city because when we do these capital projects we front the money Mac fronts
the money and then we do what are called c1s and c2s which are reimbursement packages to the historic trust once the historic trust signs off on them and says yes you did everything that you said according to what our regulations are they they they then reimburse us
what we've discuss with the city would be is that we would use the same practice with the city so if this hisor trust is signing off on it they've said that we've done everything due diligence and everything that we we said we were going to do up front and having worked
with them on the library I mean they're rigorous I mean it's it's not yes signing a I just got reappointed to the historic trust so even though I won't be able to vote on our projects I'll be sitting at the table so that's great right thank you thank you
Jody anyone else on um on this ordinance um seeing none we have a motion in a second already we do any questions or comments Council I I would only add uh and I know
um Mr Rous uh publicly endorsed this and has very good questions um and rightfully said um ma Max expenses I would only add for the public and I know you know this Jules that I I kind of argue that the a lot of them are our
expenses too and I know you know this but the capital expenditures are being spent on buildings that the city owns which is one of the reasons that I really feel this is such a winwin for for the town um we're getting Capital
expenditures done um that you may argue we would be on the hook for otherwise anyway but we have somebody who's been a great partner who's willing to to basically pay for it so we we appreciate it um with that any other questions or
comments Council roll call mayor McDade yes excuse me council member Bodner yes council member Balwin yes mayor mullik yes okay moving on to ordinances for second reading and consideration for adoption we have ordinance
54922 and ordinance amending chapter 247 of the Kate May city code regarding fire prevention Bureau fees and regulations do I have a motion I'll make the motion do I have a second I'll second we have a public hearing on this ordinance we mayor is
anyone here wishing to speak on ordinance 549 seeing none we'll close public comment uh we have a motion in a second any questions or comments Council roll call Deputy Mayor McDade yes council member Bodner yes council member Balwin
yes mayor mullik yes next we have 550 225 an ordinance amending chapter 7 of the K May city code regarding reserved on Street handicap parking with a public hearing as well mayor does anyone here wishing to speak on uh ordinance
550 seeing none we'll close public comment do I have a motion I'll make a motion do I have a second I'll second roll call Deputy Mayor McDade yes council member Bodner yes council member Balin yes mayor mullik yes I I hope I
didn't skip anyone's questions or comments there sorry that was a maintenance one anyway next we have 551 2025 an ordinance amending the city code to provide for control of plastic dust and contaminants with a public hearing mayor is anyone here wishing to speak on
ordinance 551 Jules Rous 1010 New York Avenue just to comment about this we we've seen a number of new homes being built now with with retaining walls and uh a lot of almost all these bigger homes all have a lot of Paving
there's there's an awful lot of of cutting of the blocks and the concrete blocks and they show they they they actually throw up clouds of material uh we've just gone through three years next to us uh with that
particular event and I think it's a imperative frankly that something be done there's been a new house built uh um um not too far away from where we live and they they they did did all the cutting in the street well it and it was
red brick and there was all that dust and material that a lot of it ended up in our in our sewer system so I think the control of it and I frankly don't know how they're going to control the dust um but a lot of this material
frankly has uh um fiberglass in it because it gives a lot is a lot of extra strength to the concrete that that Airborne material is extremely hazardous to your health so I think uh enforcing this regulation is is the key it's not
necessarily having it on the books and I I guess my only question is who's going to enforce it is that code enforce I mean building inspector you know and frankly it's not going to be easy to be honest with you um but I think it I
think uh education is definitely got to be part of this for for the contractors but certainly what we talked about a little was if a building Spectre is going around town and they're seeing people cutting PVC and for folks who don't know what we're talking about but
you know uh typically not on um uh historic homes but on on other homes a lot of the materials these days you're talking about like a Hardy Board it's a cement board um planking you clap board um or a
decking track deack or a lot of the trim board is a PVC you know ASAC is the is one of the product names but in any event that those are a lot of the materials and um you know if you're out here just chopping and and not using any
dust collection and what they do for the most part is is is simply a shop fact on the saw um there's better options out there like Fez tool is a German company that a lot of the painters use that is a really good dust collection um but
frankly it's for the the health of the person cutting whatever that material is is I mean if you read the label on a piece of Hardy Board it says dust borne chemicals from cutting this will cause cancer you know yeah there's no there's
no question it's a serious issue the biggest issue I think is it it doesn't particularly Define in the ordinance that includes uh masary material materials but can I assume that they are included because it talks about contaminants you contain can you assume
what assume what I'm sorry what materials the the ordinance does not talk specifically about masonry products oh masonary I I don't know that we considered that but I mean I don't think I don't think I would say it's not included in this ordinance right it's it
says plastic contaminant so it further in the within the language it says plastic contaminants it does it does mention um cement Hardy Board that's that's dry not anything with concrete blocks that's not been part of this
particular is there any reason why that cannot be added well partially because the saws for cutting cement board and and ASAC and stuff like that they're using SS that can have dust collection
on them masonry using our our larger I'll say chainsaw type saws where there is no dust collection available for that type of Saw traditionally I mean when you
watch the folks doing the road out here they're using a big saw and it I mean I agree it's go it's going everywhere but I don't think there's a way currently to to mitigate that yeah to contain it
all right I call let let me say this want continue this dialogue I mean if if you this is certainly an ordinance that we can update in the future and and um should should something change and something come on the market that addresses that or another way that we
find that it could be done I've seen it where they where they actually build a small container so that the cutting is done and the the the residual materials stay within a within a confined area right um might be something we can look into but not certainly something that's
in this current ordinance but to your point on uh uh and something I mentioned when we first introduced this this um needs to be add added to the contractor checklist um that the construction H that is done when everyone gets a permit and there should be some you know signs
put up downstairs saying new ordinance you know with regard to that as part of the initial um you know education in the Construction office so we'll make sure that it's added to the contractor checklist thank you anyone else on the ordinance
551 seeing none we can close public comment do do I have a motion I'll make the motion do I have a second I'll second any questions or comments Council roll call Deputy Mayor MCD yes council member Bodner yes council member Baldwin
yes mayor mullik yes all right next we have the public portion on the resolutions only mayor do we have anyone wishing to speak on uh the resolutions only this evening please come to the microphone state your name and address
Stacy Shan 928 Columbia um my question has to do with resolution 9302 it's the prominate uh award that was uh done can I just ask for clarification on what's included in that project and what's going to be done with that
bid uh just the the plans are available online so you're well I know there's different bids are going out so I'm just asking for this specific bid what is are they going and I'll make sure that the plans I don't know if the final plans were up there but I know the the conceptual plans are up there so it's
going to be the rehabilitation of the concrete prominade face I'm going to say on the beach side the timber Rehabilitation on the beach Avenue side um installation of fiber optic conduit for fiber optic and electrical service
along the prominade resurfacing of the promod the I'll say that reflective coating surfacing that would go over the asphalt surface of alond prominade the removal of all benches and trash recepts
uh and installing new trash receptacles um the project includes installation of the new benches however you will see in an upcoming agenda we're going to purchase the benches separately just because we can get them cheaper on state contract and not have to pay the
contractor markup but the contractor will be putting the benches together and then installing them uh the work will also include the redecking of the Timber uh deck around convention
hall so just clarification then so from say convention hall South no from mtis I would say from the end of the promod you know Kanas to Cove all of the entire promo will be
rehabilitated okay well I when you said um the wood wood is the deck around the convention hall oh okay because I thought maybe it was the wood that went from say Madison to Poverty but you're not doing them no no no okay so it's just the other way and that's going to
be when you say wood cuz it's all right now from Mattis sequan South the outside wall is all concrete so that's going to be redone the concrete part of it yes and then the wood part you said is going to be around convention hall on the surfacing though there is some wood
surfacing to the deck I think you talking about two different things the deck the decking around Hall wood deck the timber theber wooding okay I'm sorry I'm just yeah the timber bulkhead the timber bulkhead in areas on the beach
Avenue side of the I'll say the you're like the r yeah down that that will be you know where it becomes down that part okay I didn't know what part of Cu I I know there's a wooden um bulkhead on the inside going to the beach yes that's why
I was at this point that is not being rehabilit that's so it's just that and then you're going to replace what about the benches that are um dedicated how's that going to work all the benches will be removed and and new benches will be installed and will they be dedicated still or they going to be new dedication
we we have to talk about we'll we'll we'll discuss how that program will be rolled out okay then my second question is you mentioned um the conduit is that is because for you're putting in new arches there no okay I didn't know where the cond there there's
there's uh lighting that's a there and we want to make sure that we want to try to provide for future uh electric so that um we can remove those overhead lights that are on I'll
say wooden telephone poles style poles and and have those removed okay my um so are we increasing the height of that at all no no okay so my other question has to do with the project uh 9702 with asendia
and benef uh Behavioral Health is that person going to be coming from Courthouse down to support the police I mean how's I I just might I guess I'm my question is how's this plan going to to work because it seemed like there's a lot of details there and I
wasn't sure you know the police are going to be calling this person down where where they going to be housed and you know well I mean normally um my experience with this type of uh scenario is that when they you know the police arrive at a scene and believe that they have someone who might be in emotional or
mental distress um and needs assistance uh you know they there's someone who is available you know via the phone they call them first well that's not what it says though no I'm I'm going to go one step further and say in that in most cases they will be transported down here
um I think I read somewhere in the contract that the police will be um picking the person up bringing them down I mean in a county like this to have this kind of service is is tremendous well I'm just asking for more of details on how it's going to work out because every second counts and if you're
getting this person from they're not going to be locally here you wouldn't be able to support those kind of resources on a full-time basis and for the most part generally these these kind of situations are it is a centrally corded you know service um you know in the city of Philadelphia I can tell you Stacy
there was a crisis center at hanaman hospital so you know back in the 80s every patient that needed to be evaluated for a psych was brought to One hospital throughout the city of Philadelphia so it's not an uncommon practice for it to sort of be centralized and then outsourced and
called upon um and then you know yeah CU I saw also with billing there is going to go through the billing of the insurance company of the person I guess and then the city would pick up the rest I I didn't see that detail so I can't speak to that so the city wouldn't be
paying for it it' be paid through the state okay that's not really what I was hear reading when I read it I didn't read all that that's why I was just clarifying that and I think that's why Mr baldini in the beginning discussed that okay because it really wasn't clear in the resolution it kind of sound like the city was paying for it no it's okay
and my other question has to do with again there's because a lot of projects are here um that automated flood alert app I know said a lot about another Township Cumberland Township but that is Kate May County yes yes okay yep and it
will be but we still will have our horns for this is this is just a supplemental uh product to help residents and visitors utilize a different system to be able to get a a notification on their
phone uh of future flooding excellent um my last my last question has to do with the Harbor View Park project um I'm the plans I guess are on online um was there a resolution ever done to approve that
project which project again the Harbor View Park project yes there is okay yeah I know you presented it but I didn't know they were ever voted on I was just asking if there was a resolution voted on yeah we okay yeah there was a resolution to authorize the submitt to
the county for for the project space okay thank you okay anyone else this evening on uh resolutions on the agenda seeing none we can close public
comment council is there anything you'd like to remove from the consent agenda this evening anything You' like to remove Council no 92 has already been removed just okay a reminder can I have a motion on the consent agenda I'll make the motion do I
have a second I'll second roll call Deputy Mayor MCD yes council member B Bodner yes council member B yes mayor mullik it's tough having the two bees next to each other by the way give me a couple months it'll be
[Laughter] flowing okay on to new business uh new business s uh Mr baldini any new business no sir no okay city manager no I'm going to keep it short this evening thank you okay city clerk
briefly yes I wanted to give the public um the heads up that we are looking to do electronic distribution of mertile renewals this year so instead of getting a physical renewal application mailed to
your mailing address you will be getting emailed a renewal application your invoice and um a cover letter with instructions so that's going to save you know a lot of paper a lot of ink a lot of postage and a lot of headache for my office so keep an eye out in your emails
this year for your electronic renewals and a cover page we also are hoping to offer the option of paying electronically paying online via credit card with a service fee if you're interested in doing that um as a you know a convenience to the user if not we
can go ahead and take a good old check and all the paperwork into my office as normal so we're still navigating that with stdl but I'm hopeful that it's going to be ready to go by March so bear with us and I will probably have more to report on that at the next meeting
hopefully but I just wanted to spread the word a bit bit I'm going to try to send out a test email before the invoices go so just keep an eye out in your emails okay any questions give a call and that's it mayor great uh City Council Members I'm trying to remember
the order myself now Council councilwoman Baldwin I just have one thing uh we have an exciting exhibit coming to Kate May to the Wildwood Aviation Museum it's going to be the longest
yarn um it's a it's a wool display which depicts a lot of um uh events that happen in history one of this scenes depicting uh World War II veteran Harry kolowitz um which is really uh important
because he is of course the um the mayat um uh owner uh you know at that point um and he also served um the exhibit is now going through France um traveling through Europe uh it will be here for the spring and summer but this weekend
on Saturday there's going to be a fundraiser on the 22nd from 3 to 7 in the VFW so if anybody could make it that would be wonderful that's great mayor thank you great uh councilman Bodner nothing tonight thank you Deputy Mayor um I just
want to um acknowledge the um open space for the county for their approval on the Harbor View Park um it was it's been a very uh productive uh relationship and discussing this project with them they very much uh appreciate it and and supported our idea
and concept there and it's been great working with Vince Orlando and his team so I'm really excited that um we've gotten the funding um and they're working on the construction documents and we're hoping that this is going to kick off by the fall and it's just
really going to be a beautiful space um you know very tranquil passive um it's interesting to see how many people use that space all year round um a lot of uh certainly uh residents and uh contractors local and others coming in
just you know you can drive past there at any given time of the year and there are people parked down there so looking forward to that um and really excited that um we're moving forward so just want to um and on the community center I just want to say thank you to everyone and their support um coming from
everyone there who's been attending the classes um the um classes are getting more and more full each and every time right and so it's really been very well received and people are really excited about the space and really looking forward to the other programs that we're
going to be putting in there so that's awesome thanks that's great and I'll just Echo those our thanks to uh the county open space board um and especially commissioner bar uh really was very complimentary of of it and um so I I think that that just be a
wonderful project um um and I obviously we appreciate their funding and and help in in doing that project uh the the recommendations that the open space board and especially our local HPC made I think really made the project better
and and I think it you know passive non non recreational um but very beautiful place to sit read a book and and enjoy enjoy the natural beauty of the harbor which as many of you know you don't get
to recognize as much as we'd like to um you know looking out over the commercial fishing boats right there at the Lobster House it's it's a really beautiful location and we've kind of um it's not funny but We've joked that it kind of became like where we would put benches
that weren't exactly dead in life but weren't exactly beautiful either so that has kind of an Eclectic collection of uh yeah yeah so it'll be nice to finally do justice to that and I think really a beautiful
space and then of course just comment on the um the bid that we received from Shone um $5.8 million for the boardwalk preservation um that was a state grant that we are I think 6.9 million on uh
stra State Grant That'll really be a wonderful Improvement to our prominade um and we obviously we spoke a little bit about it but you know when we're talking about about doing the decking uh outside of convention hall the the decking is not in great shape but
especially for weddings and things like that it really is not in good shape uh we'll be replacing the treated lumber with like an epie or or a hard wood that would last a long time and and really look beautiful um and and as many of you
know especially from say convention hall toward kanan's club that surface of the prominade really has gotten pretty bad um so to be able to yes it will be black black talk unfortunately it it's just like every asphalt that you see out there
unfortunately but we will be putting that um coating over top of it and I think after a little while it starts to blend in much better so um really and and while maybe not exactly um
um perfect for um uh protecting from the ocean but obviously Shoring up some of the concrete and things like that is very important to the sustainability of the community so it's it's a great project
so thank you with that we'll open it up for public comment anyone wishing to speak please come to the microphone state your name and address Jules Rous 1010 New York Avenue just a couple of things um do we have what what I'll call event permits
I noticed that one of the taverns uh is going to have a three or four day event they they are required to have a permit so does be are there requests of the
city uh for an event like they're having does that involve our Police Department fire department and EMTs it does if they if they do that they they reimburse this the city for costs based on their uh whether it's an not for profit or city
sponsored event yes and do we require that they add the city as and their as co-insured yes that's part of that process part of that process um are we going to put some kind of a a blinking light or some other
identifying uh Point At The Cove I don't know whether that there's any kind of warning system that's going to go there other than the ballards uh but it certainly needs to have something um I don't think there was ever anything there in recent time so there's no
there's there's no anticipation to have that now I would suggest that there be some kind of a a lighted piece of equipment or a lighted uh a piece of lighting that would identify that that's a a terminal point on on Beach Avenue um particularly
at night I mean we've had I know on the on poverty beach side uh there was actually somebody drove up over top of that concrete wall uh so it would be a suggestion um and in in line when when do you expect
the prominade project to actually start we just awarded the the resolution this evening we have to send them a notice to proceed get some contract signed have a preconstruction conference to give them
a notice to proceed before we can start discussing schedule so within the bid documents there are timelines that they have to meet there they'll have a work schedule between when they start and I'll say mid June where they'll have to
take a a break for the summer then they'd come back in September and uh we anticipate them being done by uh the Year's End that was going to be my question uh the interruption for the summertime so they'll they'll they'll basically shut down and protect what
they've done and and protect Public's interest in the yes balance of the area yes in line with that that project you know the the dunes uh in the winter time particularly they get a little on the sad side i' I'd like to suggest that the city when they
when the when the prominade becomes uh closer to being finished that we look at dressing up the uh the the uh the actual Dune itself with either fertiliz I don't know whether we fertilized that in the last few years or not um but but maybe adding some
additional materials to give that uh and and kind of set off the uh the beach area of the city that would be a suggestion that I'd have uh thank you very much thank you Jules Stacy Shan 928 Columbia um now
that we have the bathrooms right next to convention hall is there a plan to remove those bathrooms on gurnie Street yes before summertime I assume probably within the next month within the next 30 days great excellent my next question has to do with the box I keep getting
promised for the water bills and the taxes that goes by you were never promised you were promised that we would look at it never promised the last meeting you guys promised me I didn't come out of my well my it came out of council cuz I said oh so we're going to put it back and the answer was yes we
are so for those that are listening don't understand what I'm talking about there used to be a box right there by the firehouse where people could pull up and put in their water bill and their tax bill so it wouldn't require them to get out of their car and come in which for elderly people in this town is a big
deal that they don't have to come in into City Hall especially when the elevator they would have to enter it from the other side of the building not from the main side of the building Mr detri is there a reason why we can't put the box back I I'm just I mean is there some leg
legitimate reason why the Box couldn't go back just in talking to the tax collector that there was really very minimal use of the box and and to have that out there to where an employee has to walk across the parking lot to check for every day because you're not going to want to you know to do it for minimal
use I mean that's what I said I when I talked to the tax collector she did not really have the you know she hasn't had the requests for it to be returned or did not really have the high usage or really regular usage of that box when it
was over there so she didn't really feel the need to to to put it back over there so I think there's uh both of you have a point right I think Stacy the point you know being that there could be someone who is elderly you know it's sometimes difficult to get parking they come down
here they want to pay their bill Etc on the other side of it I think if we're going to put something in there and it's not being used then it could well I I I I hear what you're saying but we're taking a tax assessor and she's fairly new isn't she no I don't know when she
but she's been the tax collector for she's been here maybe seven years okay cuz it's for the water bill and the thing and I know you know during covid and everything and it was it was utilized
so really she can't walk across the parking lot we're not asking her to walk down to the post office this is literally probably right where she parked her car but that's all right I'll move on cuz obviously this is something that I think Paul has a thing that she doesn't want to put it back and he's using other
excuses recycling C can I just real quick I just want to ask one question on that is there anything else we can add to that I mean if it was water bill and taxes that would it help make more sense or or not really not really the court has their
own separate box we don't want to mix the two separate so other than that payment wise okay all right thank you MH uh my next Hot Topic has to do with the recycling ordinance that was urgent and was supposed to be put back on the agenda
and and we're now at the end of February and I haven't seen the recycling ordinance and that means we're still picking up businesses recycling even though it's against the ordinance so I'm just wondering when are we going to be seeing the ordinance for recycling come around
again I I would guess in the next two meetings okay thank you you're welcome anyone else this evening hello Raj Johnson 826 Lafayette Street um my question has to do with the
Lafayette Park project and um I'm wondering who is environmentally overseeing the changes in the Landscaping in the area specifically I'm talking about um a pole that's been
there for at least 10 years that has um that had an ospring Nest on top of it that was removed so who was responsible for well that was part of the project and uh when the when our construction is done on the nature trails out in the
there we will be relocating it out into the oh that is fantastic thank you so much no problem oh that's so exciting you know the plight of the Osprey is just amazing I mean they come from
Central America they fly here about um 2,900 miles and they go back to the same nest and for that Nest not to be there that I've that I've watched for at least 10 years it gave me joy and it gave me
hope and it was just like when when I saw you know the male first returning it was just uh it was a wonderful Point um in my year that I'll give you a reason to go out on the nature walk take walk out on
the nature trail and then you'll be able to see it right out there F that I won't be able to see it outside my home I just wanted to make sure that it would be some place where they oh well it's not here you know it'll be right out on Cape Island Creek oh that's very happy thank you so much
you're absolutely um I guess saying that also um do we use the abundance of natural um advocacy groups in Kate May when we do projects in other words do we
ever consult the Conservancy or the autobond society or anything like that that I just want we work with the environmental Commission in our shade tree as far as if you're talking about selecting plant products and stuff like that so um you know we've had on our
environmental commission you know we've had a a representative from the Autobon Gretchen has been on the environmental commission for for years and still even though she's retired she still sits on the environmental commission so you know
we occasionally will show them our plans that we're doing for projects in and okay I'll give you a good I'll give you a good example from uh the Lafayette Street Park part of its tree planting um so that list of trees which the engineer
presented to the city and I think actually did a pretty nice job but we will present those before the trees get planted to both the environmental commission and of course shade tree commission for their consideration to I mean small example but yeah they'll they'll look at it right yeah awesome
and the Conservancy is is you ever get the Conservancy in there to typically not not okay I mean it we deal with our internal I mean we have environmental commission and sha tree Commission because they're the ones that do that advocacy for us and and we utilize their
them okay more were you gonna say I was I was just going to mention that as part of the Harbor View Deputy Mayor oh thank you as part of the Harbor View project um we will be using one of the um individuals who works with Vince Orlando uh who's did the um planning she's a
landscape architect so she will be she's very tuned into um plant indigenous you know what that's Wonder yeah drought and Etc and you know we've had some conversations with Gretchen for the environmental so we will have a plan that will be attentive to that so I
think that U great because we have so many knowledgeable people in the area about these things that can always you know help us with these things um just want thing I I was thinking about what what Mr Rous was saying about the dust
in the air and um I could um could the uh construction people ever like put up a tense sign when they're doing that that says something like um harmful contaminates contaminants might be exposed in the
air I say that because like for example if I was walking down the street and I saw a tent sign that would say that I might you know avoid that area or if I was um if I was walking my grandson in
in a stroller you know and I saw a t sign that would say that um I might avoid that area or if I lived next door maybe I wouldn't have my child play outside that day or something like that is that a possibility or that just a thought it
it's I mean we could but what you're going to do is you just got the contractor he's going to put it up there he's going to put it no he's going to put it up at the start of the project and it's going to stay up until the end of the project and so it's not going to come up today and then down tomorrow up today tomorrow you know it just but it
might be useful information whether it's one day or but I'm saying it's not going to it's not going to come up to the the contractor is not going to put it up with any frequency he's going to put it up at the beginning of the project and it's going to stay static
and you're going to see the same sign there every day for however long the project is whether or not he's doing it whether or not he's doing the work or not so okay okay it's not all right it's I mean that but this is the reason for
the ordinance is is exactly those concerns I mean not only Airborne but frankly micr Plastics and maybe not micro but small Plastics that end up in the water you know because um typically the old the old school way was
just to cut these things and wherever it ends up it ends up um and that's we're learning more and more how you know D dangerous and and um unhealthy that can be so uh the reason for this ordinance is to try to capture as much as we
possibly can right I think as new technologies Advance we got this will be something that we continue to look at mayor thank you thanks just because we heard um tonight about people doing this in the street I think that there are certain things that we should look at as
a council you know how do we control that what do we you know what does that look like and maybe incorporate that but we can revise this ordinance the way it's written currently to incorporate some of these ideas that are coming from the public right because I I kind of
think that the um the construction company probably shouldn't have the last say in this it should be the health and safety of the community instead of um what is inconvenient for a construction company to do thanks for
making my day though thank you thank you RZ anyone else sir hi good evening uh my name is John quarterman uh 2809 dun Drive Avalon uh I'm with the thailands initiative
we're a 501c3 nonprofit uh for the last two years uh I have about a th000 hours cleaning up the white lands of South Jersey uh I've worked everywhere from K May to LBI with but most of our focus is in uh K May County I've seen your videos
by the way you do a really nice job thank you I appreciate it anyone who don't doesn't know which probably most people you volunteer go around and clean up our wetlands and do a lot of work so thank you nice thanks um the Thailand's initiative uh our goal
is to restore preserve and protect and I'm here today to talk to you about protection uh one of the areas I've worked uh hundreds of hours on is Avalon Boulevard and after two hours and or two years and hundreds of hours uh it looks
pretty much worse than the day I started uh so what's causing this roll up dumpsters MH um these companies they fear no repercussion from local law enforcement uh which has developed into a disturbing culture and an attitude
that is ruining our environment um I've documented the situation now for the last four months I have video of trucks leaving uh every Shore Community in Kate May County uh including uh K May uh what I find most
disturbing kind of a about Kate May's videos are that the dumps in Woodbine so they have to run them all the way up the parkway so they're like 17 minutes long of trash flying out the
back uh I'm here today to beg you to adapt adopt Avalon's new ordinance pertaining to rollup dumpster coverage while in transit uh I think making some sensible changes now can have a huge positive
environmental impact in the future and uh it can we can separate ourselves from other from other counties and the rest of the state um just just to be clear uh there is a
company that does exactly what I ask they've always done it I've never had to ask them this is what all I'm asking if I could just present this pleas go ahead sure this compan called
yep the name yeah we know it yeah that's the only company that does anything uh I have couple copies of uh Avalon's ordinance
um bring this up Ste yeah I would say councilman Bodner has already taken the initiative on this um and I'll let him speak to it but we are already uh basically stay on the mic stay on the
mic yeah so it can be shared with the public yeah have a lot of time over at uh I guess the the Garrett Nature Preserve I'm not sure if that's actual k um and all around the uh railroad tracks the rail tracks are like man there there's
there well a lot of what I collect is is uh basically storm debris from the last 60 years so I've noticed in Kate man there it seems what seems like a ton of debris from Gloria believe it or not um there's also a a a boat in the creek
back there but you know eventually one day I'd like to really get everything cleaned up I guess from where you can rent the uh train or roller Co or oh the pedal cars tracks all the way up to the G preserve and all through there so that
that's my goal but um yeah I just wanted to come in here tonight pass us along well I'd like for us to give you feedback on actually you you know your request so councilman Bodner steal a line from a movie you had me at hello so um yeah it look uh what Avalon is
doing um read about it and got on our radar so I actually I spoke with Mr Gillan Schwarz um he got a copy of the avlon ordinance and is working on tailoring that same that same ordinance
for Kate May so we're in the process of working um on that I know all of council is aware of that and that we're um I guess it's just not quite ready for uh to be out at this point in time but it's
as I said on radar um and yeah it it it it came up it makes an awful lot of sense I think it made an awful lot of sense to me I think it resonates with everybody I'll speak for myself but I think it resonates with the community as well and it just seems to make an awful lot of sense so well thank you yeah
because I've been going around I got Avalon Stone Harbor not sure about SE what's a no Brer we already require dumpsters to be covered while stationary y so yeah well you know again too it's like yeah I don't want to get into like
how you guys live in your town you know as you know tonight you can see uh the environment is it's an endless Rabbit Hole you know especially with the microplastics and you know all that so I feel as though you know 20 30 years from now you're all this stuff's going to be viewed the same as asbestos you know so
but you know it is what it is I I appreciate um your time and and your Forward Thinking on this issue so thank you thank you for your volunteerism thank you for your efforts thank you anyone else this evening seeing none um motion to close
to motion to adjourn I'll make the motion all right have a wonderful evening everyone thank you Mr baldini thank you very much we appreciate you being here thank you thank you