Thanks. In compliance with the Open Public Meetings Act of 1975, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided. If any member has reason to believe that this meeting is being held in violation of this act, they should state so at this time. Seeing nothing, I
pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Dave, roll call, please. Sure. All right. We got Michael. Yes. Councilman Bonner here. Christopher, Gretchen,
Kim here, Randall here, Justine. Barbara present. Sarah here. Charlotte here. Myself. Okay. We have the minutes of May 27th, uh, 2025.
Anybody want to make a motion? So move. Is there a second? I'll second. All right. All in favor say I. I. I was absent, so I'll have to abstain on that. Um, okay. Then we have old business uh
planning board report. Uh, we have a meeting tonight. There's no applications, but there's a lot of administrative stuff we're going over tonight. Uh the last meeting we had we had two meetings of the well we had actually had two meetings of the jetty which took place over what two separate
months actually. It was probably about seven or eight hours of testimony on that thing. Uh they voted it down. Uh environmentally speaking there was not any issues with the project at all. Um mainly it was just for design and use of the building what they wanted to have
done. Uh, and it was voted down, which is okay. Uh, see we got here, Randy. I mean, uh, you want to city council? I'm sorry. You go, Steve. Okay. Um, just so, uh, two items I would
mention. Um, the nature trails are open. We had the ribbon cutting a few weeks ago. Um, I hope I say I hope everybody's had a chance to get out there. It really is exceeded, I think, everybody's hopes and
expectations as far as um what it offers. Um, and I don't really want to say a whole lot more other than well, I would say this, it's been a resounding success if you see the number of people that have have gone out there. Um, I know we're going to talk about it a little bit more uh today as far as
possibly for programs and um and the other opportunities that it that it affords for the city and for us to bring forward. So, I know we're going to have a little more of a discussion on that um you know, today. So, I'll just just leave it at that, but if anybody is
listening and hasn't had a chance to get out there, go out there and and see it. It's it's gorgeous. Um and looking forward to uh spend a lot of time out there. It's really nice at high time. It it really is amazing, isn't it? It's um Yeah, it's fantastic. Um the other item
I just wanted to mention is I think at the last meeting we had had a discussion about the the Colombia University project um with the report of the sustainability of the drinking water the desalination plant in Cape May and uh we
had talked about the possibility um of the environmental commission doing a presentation to uh city council regarding that. Um I know we had post meeting there was a um a brief discussion and I think there was a lot of enthusiasm for doing that um doing
that presentation and if anybody is available to meet after this meeting uh was planning on sticking around and we can discuss organizationally maybe just the approach that we want to take. um need to keep in
mind that it as excellent as the report is, it's a 70page report. Um there's a ton of information in there and to do a presentation to the public and for city council um for engagement and for awareness the you know you need to grab
your audience and you need to u make your presentation. I think um in a to be effective it needs to be brief and we need to hit the high points. So I think we would benefit from an organizational meeting just to discuss how we want to go about doing that presentation keeping
in mind you know the some of the parameters that that I've just discussed. So I'm willing um I was hoping to stay around a little bit um you know after this meeting to discuss it. welcome anybody who wants to participate in that and um be uh you
know presenting um you know to city council because I would imagine it being done with some type of say like a PowerPoint presentation and you know one or two people um doing you know the that presentation from the environmental
commission. I think it would be uh fantastic and candidly I think it would be met very well by uh by city council as well for um for this commission to be you know to being doing such a presentation as well.
We ought to make sure that Christine gets involved in that somehow. She's not here. She won't be here today. Yesine. Yeah. And um so I'll we can discuss that further. Um I agree. She's been was so deeply
involved in every aspect of this project. I see any reason why she wouldn't want to get heavily involved in that. I know she's I know she's interested in doing this. So, um we will make sure look today's an organizational meeting. So, we're not going to we're not going to get everything done today, but we will um and we could talk about
how to move forward. Okay. Next up is the Anjek grant. Uh Gretchen's not here just yet, so we'll put a hold on that. You don't you want to talk about the grant at all? No. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. I just think that um the grant uh we did
not get it. Right. Right. That was basically Yeah. I don't know if there was anything any other comments about that that she would want to add. I'm not sure why we didn't get it actually, but yeah, they people want money. Yeah. Tough competition and cuts
in funding. Basically, they don't have enough money to give to people. Okay. Anyways, Okay. Uh, anybody else have any old business they want to talk about? Uh, new business. We have the what the clothing event. Gretchen again is not
here. We'll just move this down the line whenever she gets here. If she's not here, we'll just move it over to next month. The wildlife habitat certification. Again, that's her belly wick there. Anybody wants to come in on that, it's fine. I don't I don't know anything
about it actually. Okay. Then we have the uh oh, let's see here. Nature trip. David, do you want to speak about that at all? Yeah, sure. So, I do have another job with the city and that's recreation. I
know a little bit about outdoors. Um, so as you guys talking about earlier that the new trails are absolutely gorgeous and I think this would be a good time to kind of at least start and think about programming and hopefully put something out there for the public to kind of come out there and attend and if it's an
in-house program or something with the recreation department. But I was kind of hoping to start some ideas today of what we like to see out there. I've had people in my department talking about doing like a scavenger hunt, maybe putting some signs out there. Um,
interpretive signs is, you know, showing people what you see. Maybe even including some QR reader codes. Um, I think those would be easy starts. We do have some money in the budget for at least I think signage would be a good start. I'm not sure if the something
that can be maybe paid for by the however it was paid for in the first place, but we do have money with our budget environmental commission. I think signs would be a really good start for sure. but programming also. So, I don't know if you want to I mean maybe we can
always I can reach out to other local organizations. Maybe find volunteers who have a a really good background. Certainly some kind of a birding type thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's there's birding, there's also, you know, trees.
There's a lot of different wildlife other than just the birds. Um but yeah, I mean definitely we have this fantastic group called Audabon. there right down the street that definitely help out for sure. I haven't spoke to anybody yet, but I think this is a good time now to kind of really start
at least maybe narrowing down some ideas and they have a couple expanded stands out there on the on the boardwalk so you can maybe have a meeting out there, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think maybe even I mean I'm also at the community center so
maybe even doing like a loaner program. I know some of the um parks I've been to um where you can actually borrow binoculars and bring them out there with you. Not everybody travels with binoculars. I do, but maybe one of the few, but maybe
something like that. You can pick up the the community center, maybe in convention hall. I haven't been out the point, but does the point midpoint? Do they do that at the nature center? I think they might have do they do stuff out there, you know, as far as the money in the graph
for just sign it. That's sign. They usually have somebody at station there at different various times. That brings the binoculars and shows people what's migrating through. So maybe even like binocular tour, maybe even like a one-off like we just kind of maybe start
off by just doing like a one tour. We get a date, you write up the the event and put it out there just see what the the feedback is and what people are looking for just to get something started an organized event. Yeah. People
people are captivated by the ospreys out there. So, I mean, if we even did something just about expanding information on that and I mean, I could almost see that being a the like the foundation for, you know,
for a program in and of itself just with um, you know, with that and we had the stands out there and I know for the ribbon cutting, they were so cooperative by hanging out there, you know, the whole day and just being being there for us. So, they couldn't have been a better representative for the city performance.
Yeah, they're showing off for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And they're all full, too. Every stammon's already all full, which is great. That quickly. Yeah. So, I think that that's I mean with birding, but that's you another another aspect of it because I know we're going to get people out there who are specifically
looking for like the migration and birds, things going along those lines. But the osprey seem to be it's almost like become like a Kate May thing as well. So, I think it's something we could really I'm sure we have local folks that we can tap into that can um you may know all about that, David. I
don't know. I know. I don't know. I notic you know the people. I know a little I can probably find some people who can definitely give a hand. So, I think it could be uh like I said, we could probably build a program around something around the Ospreys. Is the signage you're thinking about doing not just before you go onto the
trail or like on the trail? Well, so just talk what I've seen in the past. I've seen it where they'll have like the signs like the metal angled signs. I'm not sure council would allow you to put stuff and then they also which which I've always
seen as a really big hit especially with the kids um is where they'll have um fullsize outlines of how big a bird is on the railings itself where say hey you know look above and you see what it looks like. It kind of gives you an idea of right what you're seeing. Not much
detail, but it's kind of like a black silhouette. Does that make sense? Of like how big the actual bald eagle is or it's just ideas. I I've seen as lots of parks and I've seen people hover around those kind of signs that draws the most in. Yeah. So, I think first look, we come up with the information that we
come up with the information that we think would be interesting to folks that would be out there. Um the delivery is going to be Yeah. a whole another piece. Mike, you're you're absolutely right. We would um the whole idea of of signs work out there just like something like it
would be really cool to see oh yeah that's exactly what I'm looking at you know like something presented to you you're looking up and there it is. To me the QR codes are fantastic just being able to you get that information and be able to look in your look in your phone you know just I mean just throwing out
the ideas before you even get out on the trail being able to load something and then be able to to go out there and have the information. I don't know if we'd be able to do that. Or even just a sign that has a QR code. It doesn't even have to be like a sign per se. It could be,
you know, it could be almost like an emblem type of type of thing that would be on down then you can just access the QR code. Just what other parks are out there like that like that that have like walkways on the meadows? I mean around I mean I know the zoo does Delaware have
the zoo. The zoo has signs about birds. Yeah. Where is it? The Kate May County Zoo has signs about the birds that you're seeing with the binoculars. Might have to recreate the wheel here. It might be to see out what other John Hines Wildlife Refuge by the airport in Philadelphia has a great deck where it
goes across the whole area where it has all bunch of different signs and so if you ever want to look into what they're doing, might that might be worth a an effort just to see what they get online and see what they do. Yeah, they have a a great um and
I'm thinking what is it? John Hines, you said John Hines Yeah. Wildlife Refuge. It's in Philadelphia. So, is this a designated responsibility you would like this committee to dig into and go with? I don't mind. Whoever wants to I don't mind taking the lead on
this. I mean, yeah. We got the I mean, we he's ready. He's ready to roll. Well, I think it's just Yeah. I mean, it's it's a good time to And we have the funds. We have the money. Yeah, we do. We do. This is a great group to tap into for
ideas, you know. Um, and then doesn't mean every idea comes to fruition, but I I'm sure there's a lot of really good ideas that can come out of this group. I think that, um, I would agree with Mike. I think that we could do a lot by by taking the lead and we're
just helped that much more so by I mean Dave you being on this committee you're being a director of recreation and with your specific background I mean it's just we just have like really perfect harmony for this to be done things out there so maybe we can get on
their website and take a take a peek Yeah. Yeah. I know they do at point Yeah. down at the lighthouse. Yeah. They have great signage out there. Um, there must be great programs. Think you need help out with something. So, first off, we need to give the
Osprey family a very cute name. We do. We sure do. Oh, that might be fun for the like as a Yeah, like a contest. Yes. For the kids and stuff. Yeah. One of my co-workers,
she was thinking about doing a scavenger hunt. Yeah. where we can hand out the papers at the community center or maybe have a slot there where it tells you everything to look for. Then when you find everything, you bring it back to community center. Maybe we can give you like a treat or lollipop you something
to kind of get the kids to interact with there and to come back to community center. That's another option. So, and I was asking if she wants to come back and talk at one of the meetings to kind of present to if you guys want to hear her speak about it. But it's a great little paper she put together and it has a QR on it too.
And I don't know what this what the school is is thinking about doing. I mean, they may have some ideas of what they're going to be doing out there. So, maybe we could touch base with the board of ed. Yeah. And see what their intentions are. Maybe not anything. I don't know. I know they're tickled to death to see that thing
there. So, I guess we're in agreement to do an Osprey program. That's fine. Mhm. Do you do you want me to reach out to people locally and put that together and present that end? Yes. And then with the QR reader program, I'm not Mr. for
technology a minute, but I don't know if you may take there somebody else's interest in doing some kind of QR program. Fine. With the with the Austri program, let's do the QR program and see what see we see what we come up with some ideas what what might work. Okay.
Right. Is that all right? Okay with me. Yeah. I think if we get our information together, look, famous last words, but I think the QR part is actually the for the tech people is the easy part. I think it's more significant that we get our information together.
And the thing that's nice as well is look, we get it together. We can things can be modified and changed. We can have something together now for next summer. If it evolves into something more, we can change the information. They can change the code. it's not necessarily a
big deal. I say that because I know there have been that has happened in other in other ways u with other other programs with QR codes with the city. So I don't foresee an issue with that. I don't know um and I'm sorry I don't know
if I didn't hear David or if you had mentioned about camp with the kids. I know I know there was a discussion about kids but there's the kids camp going on right now. I don't know if if the folks over there have considered something out there other than just like walking the kids over there if they have the
ability, but it would be really neat for them for a program to be developed with there. I don't know if I'm not saying we hand that off to them, but at least if we say, "Hey, um there's put the idea out there and let them run with it and kind So we
will." So I run Camp Kate May also. Okay. So that's why you're here. Yeah. So, yeah, I definitely spoke with our new director. She's fantastic. Um, we will get the kids out there, not when it's 110 degrees today. But no, and they're all they're all super excited
and even if we don't have a program designed by that end or that point when they come, I can lead the program just from what I know and bring the kids out and but we'll probably talk and we could get up to 60 70 kids. So, it would be great to get them out there and Okay. But today's not the day by the way.
Today is definitely not the day. Today, they're in the air conditioning convention hall. watching some movies. It'll be a win-win for all ages. Young for sure. Yeah. So, I guess the Oscars would be upset if we didn't start with them. Correct. So, let's just start. They're known for
that. Yeah. Let's do that. Get a live camera out there on them. Just get some ideas. That would be cool. That's a really good idea, actually. Yeah. And put it on. They do that. Get a live camera on them so they can You start doing all the nesting.
Yeah. Like they do with the eagles. Yeah, the eagles. Pretty amazing. It is. The osprey is probably No way. All right, that works. Anything else for So Dave, you're gonna try and get something together on that then? It's a
good start. Yeah. That's a nice project out there. That that'll really be nice. You know, just just a little bit of history, and I may have mentioned this before, but um I have a son or we have a
son who's ready almost to retire from a regular job. Ouch. But yeah, exactly. But as a fifth and sixth grader at Cape May City Elementary School, the science teacher, Mr. McCarti, would take them
for walks back there and it was part of the curriculum. Um, it built into the school. And so it'd be wonderful to know if that sort of curriculum goes on even today that they utilize, you know,
what's ever present for them. And I know that Gretchen certainly is very interested in in that walk and would add a whole lot of excellent information. Um I also This is the board of ed by the
way. They're they're in they they I'm sure they're going to have something going on. Exactly. Okay. And um I know that the Mid-Atlantic Center for the Arts over the years have had um a bus
tour that is something like Cape May naturally and takes the tourists through the town pointing out our natural spots. Um so that you know getting inclusive with MAC and finding out if they're
still doing their programs and then when we've developed some sort of script orformational data for them they might want to add to it. Um you know when you think of Cape May certainly everyone is in love with
our beaches and our historical homes but when you go out there you almost can't breathe. It's so beautiful. You It's just incredibly beautiful. And um in a world where there are high emotions
sometimes, this is a very calming thing to do and educational. So that's it. All right. Uh you're up. You want to talk about the story? Sure. Sure. And um we'll talk about Harvard Fest in a
minute. U let you go ahead. So I would would like to just say that um according to New Jersey Audabon this is um National Pollinator Week.
Congratulations everybody in case you didn't realize that that's going on. And um in a in a tiny bit of research I'll share with you um according to New
Jersey Autobon Society. Uh the pollinator week um is noted for protection of hardworking. They bumblebees of all things. Bumblebees are hardworking with very
large bodies covered with hair. And this hair gives them special ability to move large amounts of pollen, making the bumblebee a highly efficient pollinator, both in the wild um plants and
cultivated plants. So, if you're somebody who likes blueberries, thank a bumblebee. um they pollinate up to six blueberry flowers in the same amount of time that
it takes one honeybee to pollinate just one. Um, there are about 15 species of bumblebees in New Jersey, but unfortunately through habitat destruction, disease,
insecticides, we're losing some of them. So, um, also worldwide and specifically here in the US,
um, according to the national news, unfortunately, some federal monies for those native bees um, and to study them and to have plants specifically for them.
It's unfortunate, but some federal budget cuts may come along. We're not sure yet, but according to wildlife biologist and Laurel Maryland, who's one of the
world's leading native bee experts, um, native bees are pollinators that live in the wild as compared to honeybees. Honey bees are generally farmed, but this entomologist is
calculating a steady population decline in most bee species because of the hazards of pesticides. So that's just one little area I wanted to bring to your attention. And then
secondly, right now, you have to be someone who's living in a closet not to know that we have horseshoe crabs by the thousands right now. And they are just amazing
the footprint that they leave for us with their little eggs and certainly their medicinal uses. Uh, the blood of a horseshoe crab provides a valuable medical product critical to maintaining
the safety of many drugs and devices used in medical care. Um, the horseshoe crab um has been coming to New Jerseyy's Delaware Bay shore for millions of years to lay their eggs. One female crab can
lay as many as 80,000 eggs in a season. This is the largest concentration of spawning horseshoe crabs on the Atlantic coast. The eggs are a valuable source for millions of migrating shorebirds who
arrived to the shores famished from their long journeys. So specifically, I do know that indeed there are people who have schedules to go out and and flip them and they have made it their, you
know, their purpose this this summer, this spring to do that. And this is something that appeared at the nature center about a year ago. Be a steward of the a
ocean. Leave only footprints. Walk, bike, and bus. Eat more plants. Growing food, especially meat,
has a huge impact on our climate. Ditch disposable products. Use a reusable bottled water. Learn more about the amazing creatures that live in the sea. Bring your own cup
to a party. And being a stewart, make sure there are no balloons blowing away because marine life and shorebirds can get tangled into the curling ribbon.
Reduce nutrient runoff. That means if you're fertilizing your lawn, then some of that certainly can create um bloom collapse and release carbon
dioxide into the seawater. Redirect downspouts. Downspouts are often directed onto a paved surface, such as a driveway, which sends water directly into the street when it rains.
And then this goes directly into another property or into the runoff and the ocean. Flip the switch. We have many appliances in our lives and maybe we should
turn off some of those appliances. I'm a great one for thinking that we should have clothes on clothes lines. Whatever happened to that? Did they stop manufacturing clothes pins and clothes lines? I'm not sure. Take a look around.
Dispose of your medications safely. Don't flush them down. Take a shorter shower that uses less water than a bath. keep your distance from um animals that
may be a part of your neighborhood. Um I think that we do have a few coyote in this town. Um see and hear them. Um buy us caught
seafood. Seafood caught in the US is subject to some of the strictest standards in the world. So these signs are part of a legacy at the nature center and that's it. Thank you. Okay,
Dave, you have something on clean uh communities? I do. We just we have our next clean up July 8th. It's always okay I'm sorry my mic was off. So it's it's July 8th is our next cleanup. Okay.
Yeah. David, where is it going to be? Do you know which Never mind. It's look on the website. City of Cape May Environmental Commission. You click on that and there's a a tab there. I'm sorry. It's um it's Tabent Environmental Commission and it has the full list of all the um
cleanup locations. Okay. And how about Harbor Fest? Where we where we stand on that, Dave? I've got some crafts. Okay. Pertaining to horseshoe crabs. And I think that's very relevant for for today and what people
can actually see if they even walk down to the water's edge um there on the bay. Well, actually, yes. So, what time people down there on on Saturday? What do you think?
Set stuff up or anything like that? So, the events from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Okay. Um, we do have a table um or maybe two at the nature center. Yes. The Yes. Mhm. New Jersey Autobon is
setting up two tables for us. Okay. Environmental commission table for the environmental commission. Wonderful. Right. Um and I think Sarah might are are you going to have the solar exhibit?
Yes. We're trying to figure out I have community solar pamphlets from last time. Do we know if this is still up to date? It seemed up to date on the website, but they're still offering this program, right? The community solar. Do we know? Okay, I'll find out because
we have a bunch of pamphlets for that. And then Justine was checking uh to see she said we could use her panel again if we want to have her solar cell. Um do we do we have our two banners? I
have one banner and I have two of them. I think we have two. Yeah. Yeah. I have the one and I think I have the other one. Yeah, I have one. It says environmental commission and I have another one. It's more of like a paper like a big cardboard roll up. So, what
time do you think you got to help out set up? I mean, what what time do you think anybody's going to show up there to set up? What do you think? Um, I'm not sure what the nature center time is, but I can find out for whoever else. All right. Anybody can
stop by and volunteer anytime during. Yeah. So, we had the tables there, right? Um, that's the important part to make sure it all gets stuff gets set up for sure. Yeah. So, I'm thinking maybe like 8 8:30 set things up and then at a certain point the police department does
barricade. Um, and then the barricades let loose around the five o'clock so we can collect. And so, I'd be there most of the day. I'll be kind of going back with the forest. If anybody's available, just be there during the day and we can help out. Yeah. I will be there early. I mean, I'll be there like at 10:00 or
9:30 to set up and then till about noonish. I'll be there the second shift and Sarah will be there. 2 2:30. Okay. So, I'll make sure I get everything from you like the banner and stuff. Yeah, I'll have to give that to you probably day before if that's okay. I can give
you a banner, too. Okay. But I might have my own table. Other one I'm working at with the community center maybe. So, okay. I'm not sure how much you're gonna do with this end, but I can give you I have
I have one more little thing that um this um driving up from Florida this year um and stopping at, you know, some of the way stations in each welcoming state.
Virginia was interesting. Um, Virginia was handing out hummingbird wildflower garden mix and it said, "Happy Mother's Day. Welcome to Virginia." Which was really cool. And I thought, we have a
welcome center. Wouldn't it be interesting if at our welcome center and we had some budget money for some seeds for people to plant in their own yards um that would help our wildlife
just just a thought. Did you hand flower seeds at one of the festivals? Yes, we did. And those little kids if they get their hands on it, they're just it's gold to them. So there is there is the Monarch Fest in
September. Want to give that to David, which would be a good time to they could still plant them in September. Yes. And there's lots of crafts around how to spread. You can make those little what are they called? Little bud balls. Is something like this? We could we
could we can make up whatever we like to do. This is This is nice. Yeah. You can get ones where it says like city of C. You get the city logo on you. Would the kids like to do this? Wouldn't some kids at camp cave may love to do this? Something like they they would absolutely love it. This will be great
for them. Camp runs until August. So, we need a we'll throw them in the pond and then we'll have other issues. Feeds the ducks. Okay. David, anything on ducks? Yeah. Um I I did reach out to some of
the local to see if they would like to help out with um set up telescopes. Kevin, he was one of them. Yeah. Yeah. Um he has some other ideas he like to do. So but I think doing it on that the new nature trail would be great idea.
So it's just a matter of getting electric out there. Um if we can I'm pretty sure there's telescopes where you don't need electric. Maybe the old school ones where you can just look through. I think it'd be a great spot to show off the night time there also. So, not just timing of that would be something like in the fall sometime
later. Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking what we had last year was in November, right? So, if we do a little bit earlier um would be ideal because in October here it's still amazing the temperature. Perfect storm for having what we did last the last time we did it. It was perfect. Yeah, it was good as far as the
skies and everybody. Well, it happened again that way. Okay. I promise. Well, I'll make sure. Yeah, I think it's a great spot. I'm still don't plan on doing it there. So, October or October or November, right? Yeah, I'm thinking October at some
point. Okay. I think October would be a good time. All right. Yeah. David, let's um if you want to talk about that more as far as getting the electric out there. We can have a conversation sooner rather than later. So, focus on the program as opposed to the logistics
type of stuff. So, that'd be Will. So, Would he be involved in um I think it would be more about I would we'll have to get generators out there and the generators would have to be compatible with whatever telescopes are being used. So then it would come
down to what the the presenter would need. Okay. Make his telescope work. So I guess when I have a better hold of all the presenters that would be there, what kind of generator or electric they would need to make their presentation
um possible. All right, let's uh so that would be the K. Sounds good. But there's lots of those little what you call little jut out areas put everything in there which would be great. Yeah. And there hopefully they'll be quiet enough where you won't disturb any wildlife.
That would be the thing to think about. I think that would be I mean I'm not so sure the feasibility of it or the desiraability of it but is there anything that the city might do to extend electric out on those things? I mean I don't know if that defeats the purpose. I really don't know. I Yeah, I
don't know. Um let's have discussion as far as what Aaron needs would be or some kind of a solar collection. Maybe something out there maybe. I don't know. Probably make it look probably make it look bad, you know. I don't know. It's it's as well as
simply what the city is permitted to do out there as well. Um what we have is because we have D approval. So baby steps generators. That's what we're going to do. Baby steps generators. Yeah. Yeah. That's why in in this instance, logistics is going to be a
sign significant piece of it just because we don't have electric out there. So I just want to make sure that we just get ahead of it before um that we get ahead of it. But you're right. So whatever you need. So it would probably be um just really this telescope. So we won't have like the
inside space where we did little crafts or anything like that or set up the lecture part of it. We probably wouldn't be able to do that out there. I mean you could because we do have the space. We could put tables when you arrive to
the park before you go up the ramp because you do have an open area there which would be enough space for tables to put there. You kind of walk through um the table crafter spot first and then not crafter but the table section first and you can walk up to the actual
telescopes too. Lights there. Yeah, it's just operations. Not that we need it. Maybe we don't need No, I mean I think No, I think it was a good idea because I know when the nature center was there, they had a really good turnout, too, from people looking at Right. Yeah. So, it's just something to think about.
Yeah. We can fine-tune it later. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Anybody have anything else you want to talk about? I'll just mention this. The that cleanup July 8th, it's at the Perry Street Beach. So, thank you. A great
city social media has it on there just as uh just as you said. Well, I think we're going to promote that too on Saturday. We'll have the sheet there for that. Oh, good idea. It's great. We'll get some of those printed out and have them there. Yeah, I have a bunch of copies. I can glad to you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, we'll just hold all the
stuff over that Gretchen was going to talk about on next month's meeting. Okay. She was on here for three or four things. Just move everything to next month. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Is there a motion to adjurnn? So moved. Second. I second. All in
favor? I. Mic's off, please.