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turn on your microphones please in accordance with the open public meetings Act of 1975 adequate notice this meeting has been provided uh please rise for the pledge I
pledge the United States America and for stands indice okay in your package you should have received the uh minutes for the last month's meeting take a moment to look at
those oh let's do the you want to do the roll roll call please okay sure Jay here Shane here George a here Carol York's here Carol sck here Barb here uh George Warner is excused
Joel is Joel I haven't received anything from him from him okay markam is absent yep uh Jim is excused Tracy is excused Frank here Ron here do you have an extra pen no this is
yours that's my pen I wonder where it went for all right I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes as presented um my Carol York will have a second I can second that second by
Barbara all those in favor I I have to abstain I wasn't I wasn't here I have to one one uh absence want abstain any in not in favor all right minutes passed okay we have some visitors here
today who do we have you came first I'm JY King you what I am JY King what does she say she's just giving her name would you be able to step up here please and if you're having a
thank you and if you just press the button you'll have the microphone problem I didn't know I was to come up I'm Judy King Judy Judy King k i n g I live at 1117 Ohio Avenue okay you can sit down if you like you have sit down okay join
join the party to discuss me now we very friendly okay oh speak for yourself Barbara I didn't realize that okay I'm I'm here in to a sweet gum tree that's
on our property um that's raising our sidewalk and creating tripping hazards um a lot of problems uh people have already not they've stumbled they've not tripped um the tree is just the roots are all over the place and it's such a
danger we've replaced the sidewalk now three times and it's got to be replaced I have pictures to show how badly the sidewalk is raised if you'd like to see them I can pass them around um um Miss King when was the last time it was replaced
the sidewalk do you know last time we repl you know I tried to pull my bill it's not been more than six years ago okay and were you part of the 50/50 Grant at that point we you know what the 5050 part really wasn't a bargain for us okay okay I mean we've had Carrot Top
from the beginning I think he replaced it the first time we had it replaced the last two times we've had it replaced by somebody in um um Wildwood okay okay um we've had the house since 2000 so this will have to be our fourth time of
replacing the sidewalk and this time it's so dangerous but I don't want to do it plus they're working on our street um they're doing the top part of Ohio we next year will have our part done I don't want them to have to do the street and then rip all this out later on and
have more problems down the line I think we're being proactive um we just had an incident at our church that there was a tiny little raise we're at the Methodist Church over here it was only like an eighth of an inch and someone said she fell on it our church
was responsible for $40,000 I have almost a 2 and2 inch raise and it goes straight up and now it's affecting my neighbor's sidewalk also which when we replaced last time we replaced one of his blocks now we're going to have to replace two this
time so would you like to see the pictures or no you can start over there thank you so what are you asking I'm asking to have the tree cut down this is a street tree this is a street tree right it's a
sweet gum I have another Tree on our on the street side also that's only 10t away otherwise I would definitely pay to have another tree put in but I don't think we need so many right on my property right there plus just another
25t away is another great big one what is the other species of tree that's on your in the tree Laine in front of your house do you know what type of tree it is it's a sycamore um oh it is it is a sycamore yes or and it's and it's not a great tree believe me
it's a messy dirty tree but it's not creating the sidewalk issue that this one is here's some more George yeah I J I looked at the tree not only um is it Crea an issue it's also creating an issue with our water lines and the sewer
lines because the roots are all on my yard side now and you can just they just keep growing and going back and you can actually see them and you can see in some of the pictures um it's a real safety concern you know
and I actually went through the rules and regulations for the shade tree and it says in there I have to have my note here but if any tree is a danger to the public well this is definitely a danger to the
public I believe we brought this up several times that when it's a street tree all the Commissioners each commissioner needs to take a look at it individually that's fine and assess and give an opinion on that you know I I love trees I'm not trying to take this down I've been in the Garden Club for
many many years I was instrumental in starting the the garden at the water tower instrumental and having us plant a tree there um because we needed something in the middle we planted a beautiful oak tree it's not that I want it down just because I want it down I
want it down to be safe and if I replace the sidewalk I'm going to have to do it again MH well so my district and and I was unsure and so I thought I would bring it to the meeting and have everyone take a look at it and ask Ron to give us an
assessment and then make a decision so I think we'll probably have to come and revisit this next next month again to give everyone a chance cuz MERS what's the what's the address 1117 Ohio Ohio
Avenue Ohio is after Kate may this is a we're go make an evaluation of the of the sweet gum it's yes thank you well the object of the 5050 program is
to have a re make a reasonably level and safe sidewalk and maintain our maintain the street tree that's the whole object of the 50/50 program um well and we've done that pardon we've done that the first time he did it the second two
times we did not have him do it because you've done it you've we first time we had it done through Carrot Top which I think is the person you use for the city with the 50 50 but it's actually so much more expensive than if you just pay for it outright you remember who did the work
katp katp the second time or first time the first time how about the second time no he did not you haven't done anything second time yes we've done it twice since then we've done we've replaced it three times now since we've owned the house okay you got the address down take
a look at that at the tree uh 1117 Ohio Avenue we make a decision the board next next month uh chairman I can't see there be that much difference yes I'd like to make a recommendation that our uh that
Connie puts out an email for the other members who are not here that may not be aware of this conversation so they can go out there and look at the tree as well a good so if they're here at the next meeting they can have a a vote with some reason behind it right that's a good idea
okay all right all right well thank you for coming in we'll have we we hate to delay decision on this but I want to get I want to get the other members input of course of course well I thought they were going to be doing our street right away they're not doing it till next year
but I have to get the sidewalk fixed so another month isn't going to hurt but I've got to get that done because somebody's going to fall and we are going to be sued with it okay thank you thank you thank you for your time I'm
sorry are you the Olson's yes did you press the button on that to get go to go green still on oh there we go Brian Olson 1022 Washington Street in May what's melody Olsson 1022 Washington
Street K May okay what can we do for you well we were here to uh we submitted an application for a uh to remove a tree that it's on our property that's dying uh and the committee uh recommended
against it where's the tree uh it's on the driveway next to the uh the sidewalk okay so we had it we had it trimmed down was it last year Matt or last year we trimmed down the top of it uh because most of the part on the top
was dead and the um the center trunk is the center trunk is still uh dying and there's another trunk that's been hollowed out it's either by animals or whatever and that's also dying that's part of the the top which is a fairly large section so a I'm afraid that it's
going to fall and either do damage to my car or to somebody who may be walking past it um and it's really just prolonging the inevitable because the tree is dying and I would rather just you know take it down before it does you know injure
somebody that's your District No that you checked that with Joel Jo oh that's Joel's all right and I think you went I also took a look at that tree I'm not that's not my district but I go to look at the tree as Vice chairman and um
I noticed that that tree the center trunk is rotted and Hollow at the top it's a it's a large Silver Maple and when they did construction those are rather new homes on Washington Street and um we have what's that we have some
pictures if phone if he wants if anybody wants for the other Commissioners um but um it had to be topped because everything above is dying and I noticed that mulch is really you know mounded yeah which it shouldn't be but I don't
think that's having the impact I think that tree was damaged most likely during the construction yeah of the homes and uh that was one of them that we wanted to try to preserve when they were building those two homes the other tree the other house next door had two large ginkos some of the largest in the city
and we wanted to make sure those were saved but in in doing that this tree was still damaged anyway so and it's it's a silver maple and it's got It's got a lot of issues in my opinion and so I mean I don't know if anybody else wants to weigh in on that but I think I had a
discussion with Joel on this on uh on Ohio Avenue uh and uh I indicated to him that a hollow tree doesn't necessarily make make it a dead tree uh so being hollow uh is not an indication of a tree
that has to come down uh according to my studies and work and listening to uh discussions at the shade tree Federation in October uh hollow tree it loses about 20% of its maybe 10 to 20% of its stability by being hollow because
nothing is happening on the inside of that tree nothing uh it there there no water going up there's no starches and sugars coming down everything on that tree is happening in the first inch inch and a half from the bark all the water goes up all the starches and sugars come
down um I think I mentioned him that without really looking at it I had mentioned to Joel the hollow tree is not necessarily a dead tree now you indicated you indicated George that this might be a
little bit different s different situation that that tree might be it's not just Hollow there's actual rotting that you can see on the main on the main trunk that goes up okay and it's been cut back to the point that it's it's severely topped that it's part of the
tree and it's that's all out yeah it looks like and I don't think that's even alive that part look like you got looks like you got a bear living in there yeah yeah yeah that's a big enough big enough hole that's a raccoon or or something oh yeah oh yeah we did so
that's the other part of it that's do you you don't have any picture of it last year if it leafed out at all or anything like that by any chance um I might if you're like me you've got 11,000 photos on that phone probably just like I know but I'm just curious if it was leafed out at all you know or how
are they the ones that were so George is is it your opinion that you feel that I mean I don't think there's a lot of purpose to try to save that particular that's what I feel too I mean if it if you had it topped and it's still rotting well you can see the
photos if you want to take a look at them um George where are where where are these homes you said they were new well relatively new they're what five years 2020 they're about in 2020 so five I was right Washington okay like near the
tennis courts on the other side of the tennis courts okay that's why we had it cut back we were trying we didn't ask to take it down at first we hadn't not cut we had it cut back because it was all in the wires and a big Branch had fallen
yes it is so when that big Branch fell that's when we had it cut because we KN it's all inside the wires all those dead dead part is still so that's why we cut the top cuz we were trying to leave it at that but now it's rotting all the way
down you were the one that stopped over at our house like on Memorial Day weekend A couple of years ago and you were talking about the ivy that was growing up and around the tree and how it was going to kill it so I did goow at the bottom of the so that Ivy and ripped everything off the bottom of the tree
coming back to me now and we tried to get rid of the Ivy the ivy it die back up on it looked like heck for one or two years till it all dies off of there but but eventually they'll stop putting too much weight on
the tree well judging from the uh the information we receive now I entertain a motion that we can remove that tree uh and and wave the $75 removal fee I'll put that motion forward and I'll second
that all those in any more discussion here I do have one question do you plan on replanting any type of tree there in that area we could probably not there but maybe in the back okay um cuz it's right next to our driveway so if we plant another tree there it's we're
going to have if it that starts to fall it's going to fall right on our cars we we did not build the house we what the house after it was built so um I with what you're saying I think it would have been wise if they had shifted the house away from where the trees were it would
have SE we suggested that it would have saved the trees yeah we did not build we bought it after it was completely built um and now we're dealing with all that now but we see that they damage you know it kind of was damaged and we had to take another tree down last year for the same reason yeah that was that's be
excuse me that's before our ordinances changed so construction doesn't do that any right there's an example of yeah exactly a waste yeah so all right we have a a vote all those in favor remove the
tree wav the $75 removal fee and platted tree someplace else in the yard signify by saying I I I and the opposed any abstain do anything make a check out to this oh no you don't have to make a check out to this a check out
to me make a check out to me no don't no no no I think the cold weather has affected all and you'll be happy to know all the IV is going to the rest of the ivy is going to be ripped out and the other trees I've been dealing yes our landscapers doing do well I don't know
if you've gone past our house but that IV is all gone and then we ripped out a whole bunch on the other side and now the rest of it he's doing now cuz spring is starting our landscaper is yeah we're trying that and the bamboo in the back and the bamboo Bamboo we're seeing what's happening
with it yeah all right okay great thank you very much thank you very much welcome and all the best of luck thank you so you will plant another tree someplace in the yard all right okay
Jay can I say something Jay what Matt wants to speak yeah Matt go ahead uh Matthew notch top notch Tree Care 295 6th Avenue West Kate May um I'm going to be the contractor on this job
and I recommend a removal and it's unfortunate because construction Dam damaged a lot of these trees in this property without mentioning names of the contractor it's been done multiple properties and these trees all could have been saved and uh well we have now
we have now the ordinance in effect that they're required to put a barrier around these trees before they begin uh deconstruction and reconstruction of these properties now that hopefully will help some of that uh and part of the planning proc part of the planning
process too it I went by before this was done when they were demoing the house the layouts that were approved was kind of ridiculous so I don't know someone from the planning board just looked at all everything on paper and said oh it looks good setbacks are met I don't
think there was any ground truth I don't think anyone even went out there said there's no way we're going to be able to put a house to there was this was the property that we lost probably the largest Oak Tree in Kate May a few years ago the the tree was literally two feet from the foundation house they severed
every root on that tree the tree had to be removed but the plans were approved to put the house where it was which was like six feet from the property line This oak tree was about this big and it was two feet from it so how how how far how far from the 16 in 24 in this oak
tree that big was next to the tree but my point was like there was the whole planning process happened on this property and it was poor planning two houses should have never gone in there they should have been shifted over the trees should have been removed prior to building a house next to cuz you know the tree is going to die cuz my client
on the other side I was worried about that tree falling our house and they cut every single structural room in that Oak it had to be removed my point is like I'm glad the ordinance is being updated with barriers around trees but I think I know West came M I volunteer in a shade tree we're involved with the planning
board too so we see the plans for the houses and relevant to where trees are so then we can make good J they're going to put a driveway next to that tree the tree trees got to be removed can they move the driveway over a little bit like there might be some flexibility in there this didn't happen on these two this is
one house and they put two houses and it was really poor planning that was that large ranch house that was there and they were actually going to remove one of the genos at the other house that was there and we talked to the builders and they at least agreed to um that was the contractor that at least agreed to shift
that so that they could save that other genko but in doing that they must have moved this house you know more closely but at that point we had no say about any of that you know we just gave opinions and things like that and um but hopefully this ordinance will work in our favor in the future that's it thank
you thank you than all right well we uh on uh on uh the Construction office hands out hands out our protection sheet on the plans uh that they're required to put a barrier
around existing trees are going to remain uh and if they don't have enough room for egress or entrance uh or exit of s the the alternative is to put down a 6 to 8 inch uh chips uh mulch barrier and top
that with particle board sturdy particle board or plywood to allow vehicles to drive in and out over the top without compressing the roots to where it where it hurts them uh and that's handed out by the Construction office uh on
uh on uh Monday next St Patrick's Day I'm going to appear before the HPC uh and make a plea to make them give them uh what we do requirements for protection of trees on property uh to go
with their uh object of maintaining the exterior of some of these Victorian houses down here so we get we get on there aboard with them aboard us we can have two people both the HPC and the shade tree represented when they first
come come in for some of these plans and we can avoid this construction work problem so we'll see what happens now the chair the chairman of the HPC seem to be very receptive to
that so I'm going to appear before him uh on Monday yeah our house like if you look at our house it could have easily I don't know why they put it right up against the other tree you took down instead of putting it like in the middle and they could have made a driveway between the tree I mean we again I we
buil we buil it after it was already built but we we owned another house in K so we're very about serving it for we lived on Missouri for about 12 years we had a house there before this house so yeah we were yeah once we got in they like
oh thank you very much than you thank you best of luck aror day um the school is out during spring day during Earth Day 422 or aror day 425 but
on 428 they're going to go back in school uh and they proposed a book reading uh for the uh Arbor Day so if that's okay if anybody who's able to come and read a book uh on 428 which is
what day of the week is that that's what I'm just looking at I think it's a Tuesday Monday Tuesday Monday April 28 it's a Monday yeah no yeah 428 is a Monday so let uh let Connie know let
Connie know that uh uh that you're able to to go and read a read a book to some of the school children some of the classes I'll try to be there you're talking to me I'm talking to you I know you did I did it last year last year yeah I guess I'm grandfathered in
now so okay all right Carol do you want to do see we have a uh take the morning shift and I'll take the afternoon you can take bigger kids I'll take okay what do we have here George
did you read aook about trees is that what you I did more like an earth thing it was about pollution and stuff like that but they also oh here it is to read but I didn't use theirs I just us fine Ron you got you got a copy of this uh application for a resolution for a a
bid for the trimming maintenance and whatnot yes I did okay you have to bid on that right yes all right that's my packet pardon that's my packet I was going to explain okay go ahead my portion um so the city wanted
to pass this resolution at the last council meeting uh when it comes to Professional Services when you reach a certain limit you have to go out to bid um this this was it was put out the bid eight years ago but for some reason we haven't done it since and it'd be more
on the uh you know on the up and up with the state laws this is something that we have to do so I had asked city council if we could table this to the next council meeting so that I let all of you be aware that this is what we're doing so you're not left in the dark um and also give V an opportunity to to be
aware of it as well so so this is going to be voted on when once you get to bids in certain period of time well we're go we're going to vote to put this out the bid on Tuesday and then once we get the bids back then the city council would will decide okay but in the meantime we
can continue giving we can continue giving jobs to to uh to man as they occur can we not right is that okay continue useing maner yeah yeah we're going to continue our normal process until
okay um also in this packet if you about three pages to the end uh gives a little bit of information about the space tree folks don't know about the space shuttle tree it's located right next to the Colonial House as you come into City
Hall from the parking lot uh space shuttle tree was uh its seeds were brought to space and brought back and then auctioned off in the state of New Jersey City of Katee May was one of the winners of the uh not auction uh raffled off was one of the winners of
the raffle and uh we received this tree it was planted here it's in a dedication to the uh astronauts uh of the Challenger who have you know perished in that that disaster so some of us at the city we
thinking to ourselves since it's grown so big at this point it's kind of out out grown it its location it's between the parking lot and it's and the uh brick sidewalk next to the Colonial House and there was some discussions
about uh possibly moving it to another location uh so to get the information that we're looking for whether we can or can't uh move this I called Mickey Riggins who's a tree expert uh he came down looked at the tree and
he exp explained to me that because of last year's drought it wouldn't be a good idea to move it he show me different uh growths on the branches between the the uh the needles he made a recommendation to fertilize a tree uh if we decide we want
to move it we should probably cut the roots around a tree for this year leave it alone for a year and then move it you know so that way it's not such a big shock to the tree um this is something that we're still outweighing I just want
to make this you know transparent for the shade tree commission to to be aware that we're thinking about this and uh if we were to move it it would be probably somewhere uh more visible possibly at the new Lafayette Street park for people to be uh for the kids to learn about
this uh historical tree uh we're not moving any further yet but Mickey Riggins offered to uh excuse me uh fertilizer fertilize it thank you and he said he'll do that in no charge uh so that's where we are with
that uh I don't know if anybody has any opin opinions about that well I was there for that ceremony I remember that very well and I had a lot of concern after that was planted that day of it's continuing to grow because it really
took you know how long ago that was it really took a long long time time for that tree to even start to look like it was going to survive yep so I have a lot of concern about you know what's going on with the actual tree and but I think it's a good idea to maybe find it I
think it would be wonderful to have a location where all of our tourists and everything can observe that tree and and it's significant significance uh for it its purpose there so I'm in agreement with that trying to
see about we can do about keeping it alive and safe in a nice location and by root pruning it that like he's talking about that allows a denser root bowl for so
when you are transplanting it it it's holds the root Bowl together and the dirt together a lot better they do it in nurseries all the time they go around them actually they do it every year they go around it every year and cut the roots and then smaller fueler Roots feed
out from those big roots and it makes a denser ball and it's it's a lot better for the tree as far as transplanting so you know what I would like to add to that cuz Ron you know I said I was there for that ceremony I looked at them when they were putting the tree in the ground
I really felt at that time they had not done a a deep enough loc for that root to go in there that root ball so I'm with you on that keeping that safe the only my my concern is though with the size of the root ball what type of equipment would we
have to get in there to move that tree cuz that's going to be quite a large root ball and where it's located they usually have those tree Spades yeah it could fit in there yeah and currently the cars parking there are touching a tree at
this point yeah so it's only and I want to be very clear that this has nothing to do with the current reconstruction of the parking lot this was an afterthought you know there's no changing designs whether this tree stays or goes um so I just want to bring that up you know
that's you know whether we move this or not the benefit is Mickey Riggins is willing to fertilize it for us for free so that's a positive moving forward and that tree is that tree is significant it's only one of 35 trees were taken up in the space shuttle right and we were
lucky to uh win the lottery at the shade Tre Federation meeting to get one of those trees so it was around 2 or three years old three or three or four years old uh and about two and a half three feet high when we got
it in 2012 for Earth Day uh or for uh uh aror day and we put it in you can see by the picture there uh I planted it with h with Public Works uh employee uh
fur uh and uh we put that tree in and it it didn't do much for 2 or 3 years and all of a sudden the last year year and a half it's 22t tall uh and if it bothers the tree the people in the parking lot or the colonial house he just trim some
of the edges some of the branches not branches but just somebody edges off a little bit I don't agree with putting the tree back at the school at the entrance I think if it's going to go anywhere it should go where people other than just students are going to see it
it should be it should be in the new park well the reason I reason I brought that that's what I'm I didn't mean to say at the school I meant to say at the Lafia Street park because there will be a lot more people traveling there because of the new uh uh Trails that're going to be completed by this this
summer so there will be more traffic to see this wherever we decide to put this you know this this is just getting step one started let's let's let's make this tree healthy let's consider cutting these roots and making us you know on root ball and then move it on from there
with advice of professionals so we're going to leave the tree where it is do whatever trimming off the off the driveway and and the and the Colonial House is necessary that has to be done uh and leave it there for the foreseeable future at least till next
year when okay yep um the next thing I want to bring up is that you know George mentioned this George and I met with the heads of the other boards and commission of the city uh there was a great uh back and forth between HBC and J about our
needs and uh and better communication and I think the uh the meeting went very well so Jay's going to be at the uh the HBC meeting on that Monday Monday next Monday and uh we'll move there from there so it was a very positive experience I just wanted to share that yeah I'm going to provide him with
copies of our ordinance uh and copies of the uh uh letter that we that the Construction office gives to and builders that come in uh about protecting trees and with that and their their object is to PR preserve the
exterior of some of these houses I think we got a pretty hopefully we'll have it pretty well covered okay the next thing I want to bring up is the tree list I hope you folks got the chance to look at the tree list I I I designed I really want some feedback to what I can take off there because if I take some stuff
off there that you don't support I can put other things in in place of it CU there is a space issue um I also want to have another section dedicated just to in uh uh you know trees that are native trees native trees thank you uh so if
you have any input on that please let me know so I can so by this next month I'll have the the tree list on the internet okay uh last thing uh The Tree Of Heaven flyer that I designed has been printed and it's going out to all the water uh
bills go out with the tax bills the water bills water bills okay so we'll be should be getting some information back I'm going to be mentioning at Council meetings you know as as these leaves start to grow on these branches we we're be going to be able to identify these trees easier and we're here to get rid
of them and help the our local uh excellent locals get rid of them and that's all I have thank you Shan welcome thank you Paul you have anything all right Paul I just have a question for you did you get the email that I sent
quite a while ago about suggested species for Franklin Street I think I CC it to you and Connie I don't know if I did it to you Jay what is it what was it about about this tree species for Franklin Street suggested
spe suggested tree species for Franklin Street okay this is one the ones they took out on the east side of no no no nothing nothing was taken out this is this is what's going to be planted on Franklin Street I I submitted some suggestions CU they're native species and um a lot of the more native species
and the one that I I would recommend is um sourwood or wood sorl tree we have none in the city we had one on private property on Washington Street and that was taken down and they're ornamental in the fact that they they bloom um early
summer early to Midsummer they get really bright Scarlet leav leaves um in the fall and they're slow growing so on the side where the East Lind theater and the other churches there's wires and that would be uh a good species to use
there in my opinion because they're they're not going to become problematic um for quite a long time and they're really underused and um we don't have any oh yeah okay thanks all right anybody else
have anything by public works okay no I have a question about the trimming from Atlantic City Electric it was a different company that did the trimming this year and um I don't know
if they're finished are they finished for the season does anybody know they're still they're still doing some trimming okay in East Cape May i' I've seen their trucks in there some of the some of the cuts are a little different than I would have thought certainly
they're certainly not yes yeah I haven't been up there but when they when they come in to do this trimming they they do it for three to five years uh they take the suckers off you know they ve the trees and take uh for their power lines transmission
lines coming in and they take off branches they don't have to do it again for minimum of three years and maybe a maximum of five years uh sometimes they get really aggressive Ive uh and they really trim these trees this new outfit this year has
really gotten a lot of trimming past what I've observed this year that they're doing is they're actually cutting down below the telephone wires MH which they had never done before it was always too below the electric wires
and they never messed this year they seem to be cutting down below the telephone wires too so it does it is a little bit more severe but and there's a a tree now I don't know if that was one of the trees maybe I don't know who took care of that tree I think it's 10:15 Washington Street was that one
that maybe your crew did Ron no I don't believe this was this was um the block between um oh my gosh what is that street where the park is kis Park is on I can't think of the name of the Street Madison Madison so it's that
next block on the left hand side if you're going out of town it's on the leftand side it's 10:15 I'm pretty sure is the address and I thought maybe someone called to say that the branches were getting close to the house but I can't imagine the uh people that worked for the electric
company did that severe of a pruning because the branches that are cut are large boughs they're not even branches they're boughs of this sycamore tree and they were nowhere near the wires so I don't know if they hired a private contractor to do that or what but if I
think it would be a good idea if everybody would take a look at that tree what's the address I think it's 10 I'm almost positive 10:15 Washington Street really 10:15 Washington Street yeah would that be on the south side of the street or north side well I don't
have my comp be on the tennis racket no it's the opposite side the opposite yeah facing across the street from the house we were talking about earlier oh it's down lower on the street though yeah yeah a little lower on the street closer to
Madison okay I don't know who you know cut that but I can't maybe the electric company did do that but if they did it it was branches that wouldn't have interfered with the wires so I don't know okay anybody else have anything I have another thing yet I'm sorry but
last year we sent a a letter to the Virginia Hotel about removing the lights on the trees that are wrapped so tightly they're not only there but they they're on uh in front of the West End garage which I think is still our district yeah that's still ours so and that's fine for
the winter time but now it's getting to be spring they're going to be leafing out we should send them a letter saying that those wires and and lights should be removed I Believe by April 1st at the latest because otherwise you're going to be ripping the buds off and and things
like that and they you know and um well they are City trees too they are City trees and last year they they really trimmed if you want to call it trimmed the trees in front of the Virginia especially the one gko that's really I don't know who did that but we sent them
a letter saying that they're not supposed to do that either but I think we should send them a reminder about getting those lights off of the trees um this is for Virginia hotel Virginia hotel and West End garage and West End garage George if there's excuse me if
there's City trees can't the city remove them or yeah but I mean I don't know that we want is in that's in West right no no it's on our side wilham park but I think they can remove them yes but I I would say you
know we can probably if they're putting if the individual property owner is putting those lights on I think in my opinion they should be responsible for taking them off because don't City oh they can legally I'm sure we can but I mean that's a lot of work and there some of those trees are high you know for the
public works to go said it that to be done by dat so I thought the detriment of the tree yeah that's all I have all right anybody else have anything for the good or the order all right hearing nothing I'll
entertain a motion to adjourn I don't think I can make a motion I'll make that motion to adjourn I'll second second second by George all those in favor I all right okay thank you thank you your thank you oh yeah that's right
only some trees going some trees you're not you me I think that's want to