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Part 1 (Video ID: rYyS7hh41Eo):
- 00:12:40: Meeting Called to Order: Roll Call and Pledge
- 00:14:13: Approval of Minutes and Introduction of Student Speaker
- 00:14:46: East High Student Speaker: Miles Davenport Highlights Accomplishments
- 00:19:49: Comments on Miles' Speech and East High's Barbecue
- 00:20:36: Superintendent Spotlight: Mid Pen Commonwealth Players of Year
- 00:23:50: Recognizing Samra Madu's Achievements and College Scholarship
- 00:25:54: AJ Salooi Memorial Scholarship Presentation and Remembrance
- 00:34:10: CD Singers Named Grand Champions: Roxbury Invitational
- 00:41:43: Congratulating CD Singers and Performance Request
- 00:43:12: Public Comment: School Scheduling, Special Education Survey
- 00:51:40: Consent Agenda Approved, Revised Job Descriptions Table
- 01:06:21: Approval of Board Policy 237: Communication Devices
- 01:08:36: Agreement with School Scheduling Associates Fails
- 01:39:13: Personnel Report Approved, Student Cases Adjudication Approved
- 01:40:25: Memorandums of Understanding and Tax Collection Agreements
- 01:43:26: Public Comment: Budget Concerns and Test Scores
- 01:53:50: Board Representative and Committee Reports: Finance, PSDLAF
- 01:57:53: Preliminary Budget Discussion, Sympathy Resolutions, Adjournment


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Good evening. Apologies for uh our tardiness. Uh but I'd like to call the meeting for Tuesday, May 12th, 2026 to order. And we'll call the role. Miss McConnell. >> Mrs. Bingaman here. Mrs. Cavolei.

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>> She's remote. >> She's she's dialing in. She's at National Honor Society. >> She's at National Honor. >> There she is. She said here. Mr. Dornan >> here. >> Mr. Epstein. >> Yes. >> Mr. Garlic >> here. >> Mr. Gordon >> here. >> Mrs. Hanford >> here.

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>> Mr. Jacobs >> here. >> Mrs. Webster >> here. >> There are nine board members present. >> Thank you. For all those that are able, please rise and join us for the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Item 401, additions, deletions, and modifications to the agenda. Do any board members have any additions, deletions, or modifications to this

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evening's agenda? Hearing none, moving on to item 501, approval of the April 28th, 2026 meeting minutes. Mr. Turman, >> the administration is recommending approval of the April 28th, 2026 meeting minutes. >> May I have a motion to approve?

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>> Is there a second? Thank you. Any questions? >> All those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> I. opposed. Thank you. Mo moving to information and proposals. I'd like to announce uh to those joining us in person as well as

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those joining us online that the board held an executive session prior to this meeting to guess various personal legal as well as student adjudications. Item 602, student speaker. As most will know, uh we are uh privileged to have

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student speakers from both high schools as well as our cyber academy join us. And I'm pleased to introduce our student speaker from Central Dolphin East High School. Please welcome Miles Davenport. [applause] >> Popular guy you are.

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>> Yeah. Should we start the wave? >> Good evening everybody. I I would like to thank the school board and administration of Central Dolphin School District for giving another East High student the opportunity to speak this evening on behalf of my school. My name is Miles Davenport. I am a senior at Central Dolphin East High School. I've

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been a part of this district my whole school career. I attended Southside Elementary East Middle and in 27 calendar days I will be walking across the stage as a graduate. I participated in many things over my high school career, including our football team, wrestling team, girls

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basketball manager, track and field, the African-American club, Red Cross Club, and the Key Club, and National Honor Society. In the fall, I will be attending Westchester University with plans to major in psychology with a minor in exercise science. I hope to eventually become a sports psychologist.

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One very special highlight for me was being voted homecoming king by my peers during this year's homecoming football game. Excellent. >> It's been a very busy It's been a very busy month and we're also looking forward to the last 18 days of school. We have a few things to highlight from

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the past few months of school. On Friday, May 8th, the prom was held at the Best Western premiere. Our students dressed to impress and dance the night away in epic fashion. Remma Hammad and Elijah Cooper were thrilled to be crowned prom queen and king. We are in the midst of advanced

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placement in Keystone testing. Our students are working hard to try to obtain college credit ahead of time and also to show proficiency in the areas of literature, algebra 1, and biology. Students in Mrs. Cabbageto's public speaking 1 and two class went on a field trip to Penn State Hershey Medical Center and learned about careers in

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cancer research. They spoke with doctors, lab technicians, and computer information specialists to explore careers that help advance medical research. They performed experiments, visited labs, and listened to a panel discussion of professionals. I was one of the kids who attended and had a lot

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of fun. Madame Paz reports that 18 students were inducted into the French honor society on April 21st. Hope I'm going to I'm going to mispronounce this. Bulan nigua earned a bronze medal and Lyanna Perisu earned a silver medal on their

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national French exam. East High will be awarding at least five students with the seal of biliteracy this year in Spanish, Arabic and Nepali. Students are still testing in Hindi, Swali and Yurub and Yoruba. For the third period, approximately 180

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students earned distinguish honors or honoral academic excellence for the third marking period. On May 6th, these students were recognized at grade level assemblies and were presented with a certificate of achievement. The EHS music department presented our spring concerts April 28th and April

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30th. Students did an excellent job. We are now preparing for graduation ceremonies on June 8th. The EHS Chamber strings performed during the transition to the Pan Ram fundraising gala on April 25th and look for forward to playing at future school and community events.

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The Junior Achievement Real Life program was held on April 28th and 29th. The entire 11th grade was able to engage with financial industry, community professionals during a full day of activities. Topics of learning included costbenefit analysis, income to debt ratio, and consumer goods, prices

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estimations, and calculations. Thank you to East High teachers, 12th grade National Honor Society student volunteers, community volunteers, and neutri packs for making the event a success. Environmental science students participate in the first annual Keystone Goodwill Earth Day celebration. They

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were able to see how a local organization is working towards supporting the community and the environment through sustainable practices. The event also connected students to local organizations and allowed them to meet and talk with elected officials. And the secretary of the PA Department of Environmental Protection. The event organizers

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commented on how fabulous our students were and they are excited to invite us again next year. Our senior class of 2026 will be wrapping up their time with some fun and memorable memorable activities. They will be doing a senior walk through the elementary and middle school in June. It's pretty incredible

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to see a 13-year transition in that in those hallways. I'm excited. They are also looking forward to our annual senior cookout which is an which is in the afternoon of food and games to celebrate our achievement our our achievements. Finally, we're looking

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forward to seeing all of you on the stage at Landisfield on on Monday, June 8th for our commencement ceremony. Thank you again for your support of the students and teachers at East High. >> Great job, MILES. [applause] >> Just wanted to make a comment. >> Yeah, I think

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>> uh Miles, I know you have uh a lot of relatives that went to East. I think Davenport is a legacy last name uh or name in in in the school district. >> Uh >> I went to school with the Davenport and I think every year there's been a Davenport at East.

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>> My dad went to school in Philly. He went to he went to Dockerty >> Carlo Dockerty and then my mom went to Harrisburg High. >> Okay. Well, that goes goes out the window. But I I know there's a lot of Davenports that have

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gone to East High. So, you invited us uh to the barbecue. Where's it at? >> Right. Right outside on the East High Field. >> All right, man. That's >> I'm I'mma be on a grill. I got you. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> I [laughter] got you. >> Thanks, Miles.

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>> Appreciate it. Great job. >> Moving on to item 603, superintendent spotlight. Mr. Turman. >> All right. Uh Shannon live is here and I don't know which group we're going to start off with but I'll turn it over to Shannon. >> So if you direct your attention to the

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slides, you can follow along as I um spotlight our groups this evening. Good evening, President Jacobs, board members, Superintendent Turman, audience members in attendance, and those watching online. My name is Shannon Lie, director of communications and community engagement, and I'm pleased to present

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this evening's superintendent spotlight. I would like to invite East High School athletic director Dwan Lee to the podium to introduce his Mid Pen Commonwealth Players of the Year, Elijah Cooper and Samira Madoo.

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>> Thank you, Shannon. Uh I'm glad that I could be here today. Uh as athletic director Eats High, one of the things that I'm always proud of is when our young people can take their God-given talent, their hard work, and put it together and accomplish things like this. So, um this is about them. So, I'm

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not going to talk long. I want to bring Elijah up first. Elijah Cooper. Um he was a good [applause] man. Elijah was the Midpen Commonwealth player of the year. Um he was also two-time Midpen Conference uh allstar

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and he finished his high school career with over 1400 points and ended up being the all-time leading score East High School boys basketball. >> So uh he's still [applause] He's still making some decisions on college, but he has a lot of good opportunities. And again, he's going to

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be able to use his god-given talents and his hard work to put him in position through athletics to uh, you know, do some good things in life. So, Elijah, I've been around him forever. I've known him even before I was an athletic director just through basketball and to see his growth and development and you

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know he's going to do great things at the next level as well. >> Hey, so you're still weighing options in terms of where you're going to go to college. >> Um I've decided I'm going to Messiah University. >> Okay. >> Oh, congratulations. [applause and cheering]

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>> Very nice. >> I kind of knew that was one of his options, but >> I was just going to ask you if you knew or not or did he just surprise you? I know he had a couple other options, but I didn't want to. >> It's a great school. >> Thank goodness. >> To see you. >> What What What do you plan on majoring in?

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>> Um, >> do you know? >> I'm pretty sure it's going to be sports. Uh, what's it called? >> Sports business. >> Sports management. >> Oh, sports management. >> Congratulations on all your success. Best of luck at the next level. >> All right.

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Can we go to the next slide? There we go. >> Our second uh men pen Commonwealth player of the year is uh Samra Madu. [applause] Samir is also another really talented uh athlete here at East High School. She was uh Commonwealth Player of the Year,

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two-time Mid Pen Conference Allstar. She finished her high school career over,00 career points and she recently just signed a full basketball scholarship to Jacksonville uh Jacksonville University of Florida which is a division one college. So >> wow nice >> you know [applause] she's right leaving

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in June. She's leaving mid June. So after graduation she's hitting the road to sunny Florida. And same thing as Elijah, hard worker. And just to see her growth and uh I remember I don't mind I don't think you mind me telling the story when she was a junior in January.

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We sat down her and I sat down and talked about like next steps and I just told her I was fortunate to be a longtime girls basketball coach and I had a lot of really talented players. But I told her I said you would have been one of the best players on any of the teams I coached. So you have to do

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ABC D to get to the next level. and she did all those things. Her mother was very supportive. Uh, you know, we had some tough conversations, but she got where she's supposed to be. Uh, she has another really important person back here with her, Denzel, who was part of that process. So, I'm proud of her.

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She's going to do great things, and she's going to represent East High as well. >> Awesome. CONGRATULATIONS. [applause] I I don't know if you're aware of it, but Jacksonville actually played for a national championship against UCLA in the early 70s. >> The girls team the boys at that time.

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The guy's named Artist Gilmore. Yeah. Went. Yeah. Well, that's pro. Yeah. [laughter] >> Random facts. >> Random knowledge. >> That's his idiot Savon, you know. >> I just It just dawned on me that most people >> What do you Do you know what you want to

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major in? Uh yes, [clears throat] business and administration and accounting and finance. >> Wonderful. >> Well, best of luck to you. Congratulations on all your success. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> So, next I would like to ask Mr. Phil

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Salooi to come to the podium. brought us a cake. >> So, this one is bittersweet for me as his brother AJ Salooi was a close and personal friend of mine. AJ was a member of the East High School class of 1972 and served as an elected member of the

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school board from 2001 to 2009, having served as president from 2007 to 2008. He was a staunch advocate for all children, in particular East High, as he bled black and white. AJ tragically passed in 2009, but Phil kept his memory

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alive through the creation of the AJ [laughter] of the AJ Salooi Memorial Scholarship with student Dwight Herb, the first recipient of the scholarship in 2011. I would like to turn the microphone over to Phil for a few remarks.

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>> Thank you. I'd like to thank the members of the board for having me tonight. Uh I can't take full credit actually his um his life. You got me going, Shannon. [laughter] His lifelong friend, Mike Dicki, actually started it. They from five

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years old, they were buddies and um he Mike, it was eating them up like the rest of us. And uh you can never get over it. So, uh, Mike got us together, said, "We got to do something." And he goes,

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"Let's do a scholarship." I said, "Oh, okay." You know, and we started out, like you said, 2011. And, uh, we did the fundraiser in 2010 and then awarded it. Dwight was the first one. And then we had one year 2016 where we didn't have a

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recipient because Mike uh was battling cancer that year and we just didn't feel was right to do something, you know, during that time. But uh since we started it, we've given out $24,000 in scholarships to uh East High students

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that have an attachment to the football program. It could be a player, team manager. One year we gave it to Ethan North, who was the ball boy. Uh we bought him um a a uh iPad, you know, to help him with his communication skills.

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Um and if they stay in school, what we do is we send the $1,000. If they come back to us, we send it and we put it in their account under their ID number so it gets used. You know, we just don't obviously do that. We make sure it gets used. And a bunch of them, a bunch of

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the kids have come back and have done that. We've done approximately, I was talking to Mike today, um $5,000 helping out the addition to scholarships with the athletic programs, lacrosse, I think we might have done something football, a softball, the scoreboard for Mike Steppp.

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>> Uh and then we've had some students that passed away. We help we've helped with funeral expenses. So, we're a 501c3. So, if anybody has a business you like to donate, it's a tax write off for you. Other than that, um we'll have we have the fundraiser every fall. Uh we

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typically have at the American Legion, but we're looking for a bigger space. We're kind of outgrowing that. It only holds about 100 people and it gets a little tight in there, but you know, it's something, you know, uh keep AJ's memory alive. I mean, he

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meant a lot to a lot of people. Janie, you were on the board. I think he was president of the board for two years, what, 06 to08 if I remember correctly. But um you know maybe sometime away from here I'll tell you some funny stories about him growing

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up as a little brother. But other than that I just want to thank everybody and you know the support here. And if I can hold that Dan. Yeah. We had a um every year we'd give it out but you know we want to keep track of the recipients. So obviously you have a picture up there

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now and we had a plaque put together with every recipient. Uh, and every year, uh, all you have to do, Dwan just has to get a hold of Andy, uh, Snyder at Lingotown Awards, >> right? >> Take the plaque down, we'll put the name on, we'll pay for that. Obviously, uh,

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we have this year, it's already included in price of the plaque. So, just when it whenever we do the award, just bring it over to Andy, he'll do it and then hang it up, I guess, right where his picture is near the gymnasium. So, I'd like to pass it around. >> Oh, like to see it. Do you have another plaque for your brother over at uh

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Landis? >> Landis. Yes. >> Yes. >> I'd just like to say a few words to add on to that, but um AJ was the guy that I would always go to and say, "Listen, we need this and we need that." And had him

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on speed dial, forced him to write donation checks, you name it. He couldn't get away from Phil and I because Phil and I would tag team him, right? But um he truly was committed to the kids at East. I mean he was a coach over at Holy

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Name. He could have very well have you know put the scholarship into Holy Name or Bishop McDavid or anything but he chose East. And part of why I want to say thank you to you and Mike is that you guys have never forgotten. you are

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our only um outside organization that sponsors or gives our kids a scholarship other than the Alex Alexander um scholarship. So while other schools have a lot of alumni that give back, East does not.

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This is it. And I hit fill up for many things other than um just this football scholarship. I just answered the phone and said yes. >> What What do you need, Genie? And they are always Yeah, they are always there

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to help fill that gap for us whatever we need. So, thank you, Phil. And extend that to the rest of the board. >> Truly appreciate it. >> Oh, that's beautiful. I still have EG's phone number on my just just real quick. I remember him from being a teacher and

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him on the school board and I I just uh I'll just say and I mean this in the in the best positive way. He said what he meant and he meant what he said. He was there was no you knew he was straightforward with you and uh I always appreciated that.

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>> I I can tell you one funny story when I was there from myself to my oldest brothers 20 years or six of us. So I had four older brothers older sister and 18 was number >> three >> three now four because my sister was

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number three and then dropped down five and I become six. Well, he a had a very large hat size, we'll say. [laughter] >> This is true. So, he had to get a custom football helmet and they Neil Hickoff, who was the coach, wrote a letter to the Philadelphia Eagles, said, "Hey, this is

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the size, whatever." And the letter came back and the guy thought it was a joke and the trainer from the Eagles said, "There's nobody walking upright with a head that big." [laughter] It's true. He had like a 9minute quarter or something.

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>> So that was that's the funny like all his friends they still talk about that one to this day. >> That's awesome. >> But EG's graduation was larger than >> never fit him at graduation when he would go to graduation for the Central School District.

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>> Yeah. So we have uh I think the 28th. So there will be myself or uh one of our we have a executive board that runs the foundation. Uh myself or Steve Conahan will be there. I just got to see my travel schedule work. I'll be back in time.

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>> Well, thanks for taking the time to come here. >> Thank you so much. We really really appreciate it. Thank you. [applause] >> Shannon, can you get a picture? Can you get a picture with Phil on the plaque? >> I have one. >> Oh, good. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> I'd like to bring Dr. Mattis to the podium. [applause] >> The CD singers were named grand champion of the concert choir category at the 2026 Roxbury Invitational. So, I will allow Mr. Dr. Mattis to talk about all

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of the accolades on those on the slides above. >> Yeah. Um hello. Thank you so much for having us this evening. Um can I just first off say um man, what a cool thing you guys are doing here and thank you Mr. Turman for allowing us to be involved in your student spotlight today. Um [clears throat] you know,

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we're just so honored to be here and um so cool to like witness um all of the uh other people that we're recognizing today as well. And um it's just so awesome that you guys are invested so much in us that you want to hear about all the awesome things that are happening in our schools. Um and CD

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singers, why don't you guys can you guys come up and join me? The ones of you who are here, it's a very busy time of year. We have about 40ome students in the CD singers and we have dance in the evenings and uh a whole bunch of other activities, spring sports and things like that that kids are um involved in.

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But we're so happy that you guys were able to join us this evening. Um so yeah so we have been um asked the last three years to be invited to perform at conferences and that's one of the biggest honors that um choirs can have or bands can have in um in the state in

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the region. So in 2023 uh we were invited to perform at the Pennsylvania Music Educators Conference. Um you know an honor for anybody in the state of Pennsylvania. In 2024 we were invited to the American Coral Directors Conference in Providence, Rhode Island. um again being selected by choir uh from choirs

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from Maryland all the way up to Maine. And in 2025 we were invited to the um National Association for Music Education Eastern Division conference again being selected from choirs from Maryland up to Maine, just a different organization. Um

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we also had 22 guys who participated in in Low Voice at Penn State last October. And we're very very proud of that because getting guys to sing can sometimes be a struggle in this uh in our culture. Um but we are so thankful that we have the young men because just

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like if you're on a football team, if you have no wide receivers, you're not going to have a very good football team. Well, if you have a choir, if you don't have any bases, you're not going to have a very good choir. So, we're very very proud that we um have so many guys who want to be participating in that. Uh about 25% of the overall choir was from

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our school, many only bringing four or five, but we brought 22. when we were the only choir to be uh men's choir to actually perform our own pieces just by ourselves at that concert. So um very very exciting time for us. Um also [clears throat] we get invited by a lot by Governor Shapiro. He's our buddy. We

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love him. There's lots of selfies with us and Governor Shapiro because we often get invited by his office to come down and sing uh at the Capitol building for events such as the uh Christmas tree lighting in December. And we just got back last week, was it last week? Yes, last week we sang for the Fraternal

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Order of the Police um memorial ceremony which honors fallen police officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty. So we get invited to do that as well. Um 15 of our students participate in PMEA district chorus which is a 7ount radius. So um Cumberland County over to

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Lancaster County and everything in between York County um Adams County that kind of a thing. 15 students. Um there are 215 220 students that participate in that choir and I think the schools that had the second most they all there was three

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schools that had 10 and we had 15. So we um we were very proud of the fact that we had the most representation in that ensemble out of seven counties. Um and we also were invited to perform at uh Susuana University. Uh Sean this year performed at the Hines Memorial Chapel.

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Um, we also had 13 students from Central Dolphin participate in the All Eastern Honors Chorus for the American Coral Directors Association at um in Providence, Rhode Island this year. That was a very cool opportunity for those kids and the choir directors they got to work with are like the best in the field

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in the country. So, they were really lucky to get to work with them. And uh we also worked with Dr. Kim Adams at the Central Dolphin Honors Choir um uh Central Dolphin Honors Choir Festival held at the end of March and we had 19 students participate in the Dolphin

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County Honors Choir which is really great. Um and we usually take freshmen to that that festival so they get some experience as well. And uh of course last but not least uh the reason why we're here is our choir uh won first place at the Roxberry um adjudication at

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Roxberry, New Jersey. We've had a significant history with the Roxberry Invitational for about 30 years. Uh we've been going to this event long before I showed up at Central Dolphin and um and we've won Grand [clears throat] Champion um a number of times prior to me and uh this is my

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second time winning that title at the Roxbury Invitational since I've come to Central Dolphin. And it's just a fantastic um coral festival. It's the best choirs in the region come and perform. And uh these kids were just really excited about um going and

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performing and showing what they're made of and continuing the wonderful legacy of choirs that we have at Central Dolphin. Um every time I threw a piece of music at them, I would be like, "This is the hardest piece of music I've ever given kids, you know, and I I don't know if we're going to be able to handle it,

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guys." And every single time they would be like, "We'll show you." And uh and they would do it. and I would be like so wowed by their commitment and their dedication to the things that are going on. And um so on a bit of a personal note, I've known about Central Dolphin since I was in college. I went to

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Mansfield University, which is where um my predecessor Dave Deetsz, and all of you who know Central Dolphin know Dave Deetsz went to school at Mansfield. And uh we call him Grandpa Deetsz in my room now because he's our grandpa. And um and I just remember I roommed with a kid

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from Central Dolphin and all the kids from Central Dolphin High School who studied vocal music at Mansfield were the best in what they did. Absolutely. Without question, hands down. And I remember thinking, man, wouldn't it be cool to have a job someday where I got to work at a school like Central Dolphin

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and then fast forward to 2015 and I got that call from HR and it was like a dream come true to me to work for Central Dolphin and to continue the wonderful work and the legacy. um but also put [clears throat] a lot of pressure on my shoulders too at the same time because I knew I had a legacy that I had to keep up with. And um I'm just

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so proud of the work that these kids have put in. They have really just done a fantastic job this year showing all of their commitment um to making wonderful music but also building relationships with the with each other. And um I think every single one of them would tell you

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that um this year was special. There was something really special about this team of kids and the connections that we built through music. And we have a saying sometimes we say um singing together changes lives. And um and I really believe that all of our lives this year were changed by singing

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together. And I'm so grateful for them and all of their work. and we're very grateful for you for having us this evening and for continuing to allow us to um produce the best music possible and to continue to be a beacon of what musical excellence is not only in the state of Pennsylvania but in the region.

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Um and we really just appreciate everything that you guys do as well. So again, thank you Mr. Turman for allowing us to be here and spotlighting us and thank you to Miss uh Mrs. Live for allowing us to be here and all of you schoolboard members. Everything that you do, we are so grateful. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. >> Thank you so much. Congratulations.

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>> Thank you. If I could [applause] I I just want to mention something real quick. I I observed the performances and the kids have an incredible amount of talent, but you can really [clears throat] tell how much respect they have for you and I want you to make sure you know that. Um I just went to the eighth grade, seventh, eighth grade concert last night. You have a lot of

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talent coming up again. So, so be ready for them. So, >> we're excited about continuing moving forward and and continuing Thank you. I appreciate it. >> You're not done yet. >> Oh, I'm not done yet. I'm sorry. >> Because the next time you come here with accomplishments like that, you better

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perform for us. >> Okay. So, no excuses. Now, you know, the next time you come, we can >> Oh, they can. >> Is there a recording? >> They're asking about your recording. >> My recording. Oh, I can certainly send that to you for sure. Yeah.

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>> Okay. Thank you. >> That would be great. >> But that doesn't get you off the hook. If you come again, >> you better bring and do a at least one song. >> I'll email you so you can send.

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>> Thank you very much. Thank you all. [applause] >> President Jacobs, that concludes my superintendent spotlight. Thank you. >> Awesome. Thanks, Shannon. Appreciate you. >> Shannon, you're becoming the highlight of the meeting. Great job. >> There goes the crowd.

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>> Okay, moving on to item 604, public speakers. This is the first of two opportunities for the public to address the board. The first of which is for agenda items only, and we have one individual signed up to speak, Michelle Haw

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alumni. >> [clears throat] >> And unfortunately, I did not have a public speaking class at East High, so I still forget to breathe when I talk in front of people. >> You'll do fine. >> Um, I think most of you know, and I gave you my notes like before, um, most of you know the history with the school

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scheduling town hall. Um, but there are a couple of new board members. Um, it was one of the more contentious things that was proposed at the town hall. Um, I'll shorten this up um instead of going into all the details, but um [laughter] at the time um with all the emails and

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everything coming in, the public was promised that there'd be more discussion and things like that before um anything was changed. Um and as we've heard is a very busy time of year. I don't think anybody has noticed this. It was my own son who like pointed out, hey, did you see there's a scheduling consultant on

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there? Um, so I guess my ask would be that there would be more information given and discussions with the community before you guys um proceed with hiring a consultant. Um, especially with there only being um six days and then it'll be

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$500 per hour. Um, I feel like there's a lot of risk too that you know it'll be easy to go over those six days. Um, and then I'll just, like I said, skip a lot of the other stuff. Um, I also just threw in um, as you know, I have a kid at a cyber school, too. But she did get

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into tech. So [laughter] now your money will be going to tech instead of the cyber school. So that's good news. Um, >> that's great news. >> But yeah, I'm excited. Um, so just my thing with the survey would be to point out, and I didn't know if you guys had a copy or not, but um, I didn't see

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anything with special education on there in the choices that the parents had for why they had left for cyber school. Um, and I know from, you know, watching online and talking to a lot of people that is a huge factor in why some families feel the need to go to, um, cyber charter school. Um, and like with

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the, um, financial, you know, the budgeting presentation last week, you know, if we can figure out how to retain those kids and help the kids, it also helps financial wise. So, you know, if if any further surveys are given, um, you know, maybe just focus in on that

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special ed and try to get families talking and, you know, working so that, you know, we can solve two problems with one one, you know, thing. So, that's everything. Thank you. >> Before you go, I mean, just the first you had two parts to your presentation.

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one was the scheduling >> and um what would you suggest would be an adjustment to the scheduling that would uh appeal to special education students? Is there anything that we're not doing that we should be doing in that area? [clears throat]

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I'd say if anything in the special ed it's more about like testing and making sure the teachers are aware of what their disabilities are and you know that a lot of times is formal you know why the 504s and IEPs are you

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know out there in the first place. I mean each kid is different so I did go into that into a little bit in my long long discussion. Um >> well but that's your trait. [laughter] Yeah. Um, so I guess ironically enough,

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I think that the block scheduling um is supposed to help the lower achieving students and I could actually see it helping the higher achieving students. My concern would be though putting a kid who already hates math or struggles with English. You know, they probably already hate that class and now you're going to

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put them in there for, you know, >> an hour and a half of that class instead of at least if it's every day for shorter, you know, it would break it up. But yeah, I can go in, you know, I could talk to you sometime about a million, especially at >> this. I get the [laughter] emails and texts, but yeah, we're just trying to figure out a way to attract or at least,

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you know, retain our students. And congratulations. I think you have a child going to Votech. >> Are you talking about how to retain the the special ed kids who leave for cyber? [laughter] >> Based on what I'm seeing, they're one of the classes of our students that

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>> go to charter school more. Um, I think that the district is good at from what I can tell about the the more severe kids with lots of disabilities. You know, you're helping them. That's why we needed more, you know, as classrooms, that kind of thing. It's the kids, I think, that need just a little bit of

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extra support um or accommodations that a lot of times are even free. Um, and there's just, you know, I think people think that they will just figure it out on their own eventually and we won't address that. Um, but I think those are the families that get frustrated and they've tried to talk to people at the

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district again and again and finally they're like, "Okay, I'll you know." >> Yeah. But what were they talk what were they asking from the district? >> I some of it is bullying or social things like we're bad at diagnosing I mean ironically enough at CD or East

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High now um the kids actually like lunch detention. So, I think sensory issues are a big thing for kids if they're not diagnosed and the teacher doesn't know. And you know, >> um the other thing that I see a lot on Facebook with the cyber schools is um the kids that are struggling to read, if

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you go to say CCA, they will offer you the Wilson reading program. Um, and I don't know what we offer our kids, but that's very attractive to families when they see that other kids with kids who are struggling to read are, you know, getting what's considered to be the, you

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know, best option for the school. The other thing that you guys could do, um, I know there's been districts since my son was dyslexic, um, the Masons run a dyslexia center in Harrisburg, and so other districts have sent, it's expensive to even train a tutor because

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they work one-on-one. Um, but other districts have sent and the dyslexia center will um, pay for, you know, a staff member to get trained in the Orton Gillingham system. So, it's a resource. I mean, obviously, we can't work one-on-one with every student, but, you

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know, maybe it would help some of our, you know, one or two of our reading specialists better understand, you know, dyslexic kids, something like that. So, okay. >> Go ahead. Go ahead, >> Michelle. I You said that on this survey

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we didn't include special ed, which I think is a fabulous idea, but I'm not so sure. This is How long has this been out? >> This went out >> because it says 512. I probably just printed it. I just printed it today. I don't remember. >> That may be a

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>> maybe like a week or two ago. >> So, it was sent two weeks ago. We sent that to >> How can we even >> Yeah, I I have the results. >> Capture that. >> Yeah, I have the results from that. We just sent them from Mary Hurster today. So, I believe I sent that to everybody at some point in time today. Uh what the

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final result was. >> I believe I if I didn't, I'll send it send it tomorrow. I thought I did today. All I'm saying is just as soon as you see something like that, board members at CDschools.org for the community, send us your questions, your suggestions, your observations, and we can try to

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work on that right away. But >> now, well, yeah. Yeah. I think this one I'm just saying in the future if more goes out trying to understand, that's an area that I think you should hit in terms of >> financial wise, too. >> So, Michelle, you did a great job public speaking. You did fine. Um, but I just

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want to let you know in terms of the scheduling consultant, um, if you're going to stick around, um, we'll explain kind of what it is about. It's not it's about a creating a process and Mr. Turman can walk through when we get to that point in the agenda kind of what

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the purpose of the consultant will be if we hire the consultant and what the process would look like. It's about creating a stakeholder process. It's not about imposing a decision. Okay. That's what I was just afraid because, you know, I knew how angry the families were and, you know, I just thought, well, if

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we don't give them a chance to talk, even >> we're trying to learn from our mistakes. >> Yep. Exactly. >> Thank you. >> Great. [clears throat] >> Moving on to unfinished business. Item 701, Treasury Report, month ending March

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31, 2026. Mr. Pardon. >> The [clears throat] administration is recommending approval of the treasures report for the month ending March 31st, 2026. This item was reviewed at the April 28th, 2026 board meeting. >> Hang on, Peter. Pause. >> I got My apologies. >> Oh, that's a problem. >> No, no, no. My apologies. I missed my

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notes. >> I read it real fast. >> Sorry. Um so as we've started doing um over the last several meetings uh all of these items in unfinished business already had first read and so we're

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grouping them into a consent agenda. Um we are uh looking at items 71 through 79 and we're pulling out 76 77 and 78. So we will vote on 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, and

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79 as a block for consent consent agenda items. So Peter, I apologize. >> Okay. >> So as stated by Mike Jacobs, I'd like to make a motion. >> So we have a motion for the consent agenda. Again, items 71, 2, 3, four, five, and nine.

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>> Second. >> And we have a second. All those in favor signify by saying I >> opposed. >> I'm opposed. >> It's a no from me. >> Okay. >> Has to do with the schedule. >> We're not there. >> We're not there. We didn't do that. We pulled that out.

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>> No, no, no. The calendar. >> Oh, >> okay. So, coming back to item 706 that was pulled out from consent agenda. Uh, Mr. Chairman, >> the administration is re recommending approval of the following revised job

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descriptions. These items were reviewed at the April 22nd, 2026 personnel committee meeting in the April 28th, 26 April 20, 2026 board meeting, coordinator of curriculum development and instructional practices, digital media and branding specialist, building

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and grounds coordinatorhouse supervisor, copy shop supervisor. um two of the positions uh we are just looking to re redo the positions. Uh one was Chris Lopez's technology coordinator position. Um the coordinator of curriculum would

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support the directors but more so help Dr. Box with all the work she needs to do with curriculum writing. The digital media and branding specialist individual is currently at the warehouse would come over here to be able to support Chris Lopez and the work she needs to do with media. and the building and grounds

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coordinatorhouse supervisor copy shop supervisor will be an individual who's here who will now have supervision at the warehouse. >> May I have a motion to approve? >> So move. >> Is there a second? >> Second.

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>> Thank you. Uh questions or comments? Um I I had a couple of questions that were um sort of unanswered to no one's fault. There was just not enough time to get them all answered. Um but secondly, uh just given the fact that this is

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budget season and we haven't adopted a budget for the new school year and given the fact that these positions are new and may in some cases be budgetarily neutral, but in other cases we may or may not be. Um, I'm personally not

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comfortable with uh moving them forward at this point because I know they would then be open to interview and I don't feel comfortable as a member of the finance committee having a position that may or may not tip our balance one way or the other. At this point, >> I'm going to go along with that and just

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I I think we have other things that we need to deal with before we get into this. >> Two of the positions right now are currently filled. Just to be clear, the digital media and brand special, there's a person in the role. >> That's just changing the role in what she's doing. The building and grounds,

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there's a person in that role as well. >> So, can we separate them? >> You can. >> Well, they they stay there, though. I mean, it just we're just changing the position. I mean, they're still going to do what they're doing. Correct. So, it's not affecting them. >> It's just what they're titled for right now. It's the It's the first one that

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would be posted and and filled and have a potential salary change. If the other two are already people in the job, but it's just a matter of changing their job description, then that doesn't seem to have as much of a potential impact on the bottom line as I see it. >> What are the questions? Because maybe we

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can get them answered and settle this. >> We would end up just filling the old job description. So, there's not going to be a change in Well, I just need to make sure we're clear. All we did was take a position which currently is vacant

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because somebody got a promotion and change what that individual was doing. If you say no to that, then what all we're doing is filling the position that is currently vacant. >> Ask a question. Maybe I was question >> I was confused. I thought that with the promotion, a lot of those roles were

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going to come these responsibilities were going to come up with that role. So this we wouldn't need that role that's currently unfilled >> for the first one or second no the first one is more the curriculum development all the curriculum work that has to be done and unfortunately Dr. box is not

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here. But all the work curriculum wise in terms of what she's what she has presented with that curriculum audit, you have to have someone who's going to be looking and monitoring that and help supporting teachers, right? Curriculum, >> but that's like a new role compared to because like the responsibilities are completely different.

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>> The responsibilities are different than what they were previously and what Chris Chris Lopez was doing. >> But so with curriculum development, I'm just taking this literally. We just there's a lot of folks who worked in curriculum um who are no longer here. So

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is this an acknowledgment that perhaps we should have retained some of the curriculum staffing? >> No, because the role of this individual is quite different than the other job descriptions. You can pull this one, you can pull the other three that we had previously and they're drastically

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different. >> I I don't doubt that. I looked at them and I couldn't, you know, make heads or tails out of it. The title says curriculum development and instructional practices which I would think is the main role of people working in curriculum. So I I'm just um wondering

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and it's and I know Dr. Box needs help um that I I guess I'm just trying to understand this is this a new position? >> It's it's it's a new position but it's replacing an old position. So, it's new per se in terms of the function and the

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job responsibilities, but it's not new for the fact that we're adding more money into the budget. >> So, these have all been accounted for in the budget. >> Correct. The only one that's going to be a minor change we've discussed previously was a third one because now you have been adding supervisory to her

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job description. >> But, Mr. Chairman, to return to the first one, it is a change. You're saying it's a change in responsibilities. And what was the other thing? >> So it's a change in specifically responsibilities and what that individual will be doing.

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>> So that is isn't is that that's basically a change. >> It's a change but what it's not doing is adding a new position because the position already exists. You're just changing what that individual will be doing. >> I understand. >> So for example, if we would have went along once Chris Lopez at that point in

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time um got a promotion and we would have filled her position, it's the same thing. Yeah, I was under the impression that that that that particular position was going to melt away. >> No. [clears throat] Well, then perhaps I misunderstood you.

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>> The other question I have, and this is I'm not good with technology, but digital media and branding specialists. I know in the finance committee we spent several hours trying to um uh get our branding on, you know, on track. So, and

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we have Shannon who does an excellent job. What does a digital media and branding specialist do? >> Chris, can you kind of talk through in terms of what that role is and >> what was discussed? >> Okay. So um what's going to happen and a

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number of these functions is what um the per person who is currently running the copy shop they have another duty and that duty is doing things like um our graphic design but it's just taking away also managing the copy shop so they can

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solely function on doing those graphic design functions. So she runs the website she makes things that are also posted. So when Shannon has a need and she says, "Okay, I need this design to fit in with our branding to be posted on social media," that is what that

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individual is doing. And so it is um a number of the functions are similar. It's just shifting away from also having that copy shop duty to being able to focus because we do have such a large district. So there are so many needs. And so it's also doing things like um

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giving consistency in the branding in terms of all of the graphics that are being created for the district. >> I know with the logos, I thought we had had that nailed down, but um so is there a new person then doing the uh in the copy machine? Is there a separate individual? >> There's not a separate individual. So

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that's the individual who currently works in this building moving over and that's the one that is taking on the additional supervisory role. So, is there any is if we say say we vote no, is there anything that will not get done

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because we voted no? That's I guess that's where like I'm not I I I hear they're shifting things, but everything's still going to get done and there's a lot of confusion still. I I'm just thinking that maybe we ought to just hold off until all of us are very clear. I know some of us are saying that

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we we understand, but again, if what are we voting on if everything would get done if we didn't do this or or is there something that won't get done? I I don't know who >> you're looking at the the curriculum piece number one and and writing the curriculum and getting that across the

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board like you need a point person who's going to be able to do that. We right now don't have somebody who's able to do that. >> So there's not a point person. >> No. >> Did we just because I'm not in that committee, did we talk about that in the person? We talked about all of this on the 22nd and the 28th. All of this has been discussed twice.

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>> So there was questions. >> So one potential option from a parliamentary procedure is you made the motion, you made the second if you would be willing to withdraw your motions. We could certainly amend this to vote on

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each one individually. Um as you had kind of alluded to instead of taking it as a group. Um that would [clears throat] require both of you to withdraw your motions. Um or we can keep the motions and vote on the agenda item as is. >> If we vote, say we voted no now and get

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more clarification, say in finance on Thursday, could we just bring this back and vote on it again or is this like once you're done, you're done. >> That's my point is just just you could get more clarification and bring it back. >> You could certainly bring it back. >> Why don't you just table it? >> I mean we you could table it if but that

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so but but they would have to >> Yeah. Because you'd have to have a motion to table. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So again, the the same premise, you'd have to withdraw. You'd have to withdraw. >> I'll with >> Can I make a motion to table it until the next meeting? >> Sure. >> So Peter, Eric, then because we have a

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finance committee meeting, is it is that the place to look at it again? Because it was already looked at >> personel till after the next meeting. So I would have finance >> and can I please get these specific questions you want answered because I thought we did a good job answering this

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on the 22nd and the 28th and >> I think one of the problem is and we're fixing this by having the meetings online now is us who are not part of that committee might have not gotten all that information. So I think it's just everybody might not have >> those who were there you know it was a while ago and I got asked questions that I couldn't remember granular information

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to share. So that's why I just didn't want to send anyone the wrong information and I wanted to send them back to you and Dr. >> Question wasn't there at the meeting for me. My question was >> well and some of them have developed after the fact too. Yeah. >> Well, in order to expedite the process, why don't we put it on the finance agenda before we do the I guess before

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we do the budget >> that could be done because we don't we could poke it in the agenda doesn't have to be posted till 7 or till 4:30 tomorrow. So we do that. I guess I'm a little confused because this is why we have a first read for us to read, review, whatever, and then ask

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questions and those questions obviously weren't asked. I don't even know what questions you have, but it's a lack of information and I think >> yes, we can withdraw and yes, we we can postpone, but I'm afraid future items

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that we've already gone through a first read are going to impact our daily operations. And I just want everyone to be cognizant of the fact that first read is a first read. If you have questions to get clarification, get them within

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the two weeks or more so that we can come back here and actually vote on it. I think I don't want operations to stop. >> The problem with the first read is the same that you have at like township meetings with development where you have the the pre-development and final

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package as one. I don't remember anybody asking questions during first read for much of anything. Um, and so we need to start I think you have a good point. We need to start doing that. Dave also had a good point. We're going to have the committee meetings up and not just for

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the public, for us, you know, to check our own memories. >> Yeah, that that will be beneficial. And um you know, I in this particular event, you know, if we get it uh out of I don't know if we have to get it out of committee, but talk through on Thursday.

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We can vote on it when >> um I I did, Mr. Chairman, have one question because you know me. um build the building and grounds coordinator. Was that the position we had last year and didn't fill? >> No, that's not that's not we have

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somebody in that role now. >> Just adding that copy shop to the >> We're just adding some supervisor responsibility. Yeah. >> So, there's a motion to table. There's a motion to table. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Any additional question conversation? Uh

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>> Mr. Chairman, you want questions sent to you? >> Yes, please. Okay. All those in favor of tableabling item 706, please vote in favor. >> I >> opposed. Motion tabled.

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>> Item 707, approval of board policy. Mr. Turman, >> the administration regaining approval of the revised board policy number 237, electronic and personal communication devices. This item was reviewed at the April 22nd, 2026 policy committee

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meeting and the April 28th, 2026 board meeting. >> May I have a motion to approve? >> Motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. Questions? >> I I just wanted to clarify I think one of the questions um at least that I had that make sure that we

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that we have input into the policy and we will vote on that. I think you said >> this is the policy here, >> right? So this is so >> you're talking about the code of conduct and the >> discipline. Okay. I'm sorry. >> And the discipline >> sorry >> so the policy has to be enacted first before the code of conduct can be updated with the discipline.

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>> Okay. And that will >> the policy doesn't >> Yes. And the code of conduct every year is voted on. So we would have an opportunity to look at that in June first read have some discussion to look to hopefully get it approved by the end of June. And for the public, just for

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background, um even though this is not something that's going to go into place for the state as a requirement in this next school year, we are choosing to put this policy out because we are required to have the policy in place. M

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>> so we are going to go through with going doing this and we're Cumberland Valley has recently done it and they've enacted it this school year and Dair Township has done it this school year as well >> and just to add just with with some except very few exceptions it's bas if

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if you've been with the district for a while you know this was basically goes back 15 years 20 years the policy very similar to the policy we want we once had >> except for we had to add the language about metagasses And >> well, yeah, there's higher newer technology makes it a little bit

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different. Yeah, that's the difference. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any additional questions or comments? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries.

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Item 708, agreement with school scheduling associates. Mr. Turman, >> the administration recommending approval of the agreement with school scheduling associates. A consult will support the district for creating a master schedule for all secondary schools. The cost will not exceed $27,000 for the 2627 school

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year. This item was reviewed at the April 22nd, 2026 academic committee meeting and the April 28th board meeting. All right. So to kind of answer some of the questions which uh were posed earlier, um in learning from the

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town hall meeting in December of 2025, no 2024 actually, one of the things we learned at that meeting was that scheduling is obviously something that we are going to have to take a different approach to. So we kind of took some time back, took a step back, kind of

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talk through process and what it would be moving forward. So the individual that's on the board agenda is an individual who has experience in creating a schedule that the district wants him or him to pursue. So we are going to take an opportunity to create a

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committee. Um that committee will be comprised of parents, students, teachers, administrators where we will talk through some of the root causes in scheduling this the current schedule and then start talking through what we would like to see for all students. So this is

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AP students, music students, but also ESL students, IEP students. Um, and really talk through as a district what do we want for our kids in both high schools. We then at that point in time uh the the individual will give us options. Those options we will then go

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pursue. So you will have individuals who go to different school districts, view their schedule, how it works, be able to have conversation with them and then bring it back to the committee. The committee at that point in time will then talk through some of these scheduling options and then at that point in time we will start to make

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recommendations. Those recommendations are only for the bigger community to be able to get some information on. So we are going to be taking recommendation to the committee. We will get some feedback. We will then go come back together and kind of determine what is it that we would like to see for

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scheduling at our at our secondary schools. We also as a committee will find one or two things that we have to work around. So the structure will be as one of the individuals who are part of the committee will say hey we need to work around our ESL students because

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they're the neediest students in the district and they need more time in class or we need to work around for our district we need to work around our music program whatever it may be and comes out of that committee then we will create a schedule around that. So we will be viewing different schedules,

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viewing different options. We will come to a recommendation as a committee and then we will bring that out to the to the masses. The goal will be to have a recommendation approved by the end of next school year. The second part to that then is looking at how you train

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teachers for your new schedule. Um that we're going to take a year's approach as well in terms of preparing teachers for a new schedule at middle school and high school. So, you wouldn't be looking at a schedule starting till the 28 29 school year potentially. So, we really want to

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make this a collaborative process. Um, as I've been asked, is this something where you're just going to push through A or B? No. This is something where I'm going to ask the committee one thing and one thing only. The only thing I ask is that we come up with a schedule where our kids have more time with their

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teacher and their [snorts and clears throat] content courses. Right now, if you take a kid who has a Chromebook, by the time they walk in the class, open up a Chromebook, get started, that's two or three minutes. By the time they get their assignment, close their Chromebook, leave, that's another two or three minutes. So, our students every single

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day, all kids have about a 35 minute period in their content level classes and electives as well. So my only ask is that they come up with a schedule and come up with what it would be and a recommendation which is going to give our kids more time in content level

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courses knowing our students are struggling in algebra 1, they're struggling in literature, they're struggling in their science courses as well. So that would be my only ask. But this is going to be a process where the recommendation will come to the community. We will have discussion. The

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goal is to have a schedule that we can all agree upon entering 2728. Prepare everyone for that for 2829. >> So I mean we don't have a motion yet. >> I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion. >> Is there a second?

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>> I'll second. >> Thank you. Conversation. >> Yeah, Eric. So the status quo is not an option. Obviously, your mandate is that we need to change, if I'm hearing you right, so tell me if I'm not, the schedule needs to be changed to include

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more time with their content level classes. And um clearly then the the elephant in the room is the music. Um, so I'm wondering as we're crafting that, uh, what kind of

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flexibility is in the schedule if we're saying it has to be more time >> for these for these classes? >> Can I add to that? I I think the other thing too is the fact that the other thing too is the fact that our test scores are so dismal. I mean, we're

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ranked two 300 in the state and here we are the 11th largest district. So being able to provide the students with more time in their classes or the core classes is a part of that I would think. >> Yeah. But Jeannie, let me add to that. If you look at the top schools in terms

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of population, which we're at, we're probably at the top of the heap if you break it out. You know, most of those schools are large city schools that have challenges. So I'm not saying that we don't need improvement. I think we all acknowledge it. Everybody's complaining about teaching to the test. What I was

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asking, Mr. term and is you you know I I don't know I just don't know the attention span of young people. I went back to teach at Penn State last fall and I couldn't believe it was like the attention span of a fruitfly. So I'm just trying to and if I can throw

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something that goes along with that. I mean I I I disagree that staying the same isn't an option. I believe it is an option but I also think there are other reasons for test scores being low. But if I can just give an analogy, I know I'm going to bore the the bore the board because I've said this before, but uh

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I'm going to compare it to tying shoelaces. You know, if you're two years old, [clears throat] don't expect your kiddo to tie the shoelaces. If they're seven and they can't, then you need to worry. But if they're two years old and they can't tie their shoelaces, you could spend six hours with them. They're

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still not going to tie their shoelaces and everybody's going to be annoyed. And but again going back to I think there are other reasons that we're not addressing that deal with with test scores going down to the going you know and and we always we don't use this but

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sometimes it's the ability of the kid. They just don't have like we always talk about going to college. Some kids don't have that type of mind. Uh you know for example my grandson could tear an engine apart and put it back together in his front yard. That's that's a different

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skill set. It's not a collegebound skill set. So, you know, that's I just don't think it's more time that we need. >> One question I had that uh I I double checked my emails, but I had asked this was supposed to come out of the

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superintendent's budget and I asked Mr. Bard if he could send us what that budget is, and I didn't see anything. I double checked. I checked with a few other people, but I didn't never got an answer on that. >> I I apologize. I will I will circle back and get that out to you. I think there are two line items. Um, but the issue is

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if it is a discretionary budget, um, Mr. Turman, do you even need the board's permission? >> Do you need the board's permission? >> Here's what Do I need the board's permission to create a different schedule for the high school? No. >> No. No. No. To hire the consultant.

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>> Correct. Yeah. I'm I'm just getting Yeah. So the difference between me moving forward with a schedule and hiring a consultant is, you know, with it with it being a an agreement or a contract, I did want to bring it to the board. Um, also this individual is

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someone who would give me an opportunity to be able to see the tons of schedules that are out there. So I I have experience with maybe like three or four. Didn't want to limit it to that. uh wanted to make sure that whatever we said was a non-negotiable um that that

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we would be able to have a schedule that would be created around that. Um that is not necessarily my skill set or also my two high school principles as well. Um so it really is having somebody who can have us look at what would be the best thing for all kids in our district. Uh

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and I I not necessarily have the expertise to go that far. I can only go far enough. I've done middle school scheduling. I've done high school scheduling. Um I know probably like I said three or four master schedules to be able to accomplish a task. Um but once again after the meeting we had a

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year and a half ago the thought for me was to bring somebody in who could facilitate a b who would be able to show us options that we currently or wouldn't be able to come up with ourselves. So, if it's not approved, it'll just be something that me and the high school principles have to kind of figure out,

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but know that the scope will be limited. Uh, because we don't have the same level of expertise to schedule around everything. >> Well, this isn't just I mean, this scheduling isn't just about adding time. This scheduling is about providing consistency and opportunity for the kids

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across the board because >> at each high school, >> if I'm remembering correctly, >> fix the book. We fix the act the planner M the choices of courses are the same at both high schools. >> Yes, that part has been done. >> That's been fixed. >> Okay. So, that's been done, right? I

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>> So, how does that work into the scheduling though? >> Well, the schedule of both high schools are not consistent, right? >> So, at East High School, they might get 35 minutes and at CD they might get 45 minutes. And honestly, I want whatever I want the same opportunity for every

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child. And that's where I'm going to push for a schedule that is consistent across school. I think the needs are different sometimes. >> Correct. >> Um, yes. >> And I can appreciate the desire to increase test scores 100%. Like nobody

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doesn't want our children to be successful. I think my concern is there isn't an definite correlation between these schedules and then this is going to be the result. there's a lot of root causes to lower test results and um you

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know you always make fun of me for googling but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of data to show that like block scheduling increases test results or shorter longer whatever I don't think it's the magic bullet to solving all of our problems and I do appreciate all of

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the things that have been brought as a learning from the original roll out [laughter and gasps] um it definitely went over like a lead balloon originally But I think a lot of the things that you discussed with like the community groups and all of those things could still happen in the absence of having a

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consultant that's $27,000 and $500 extra an hour. So, um that's just kind of where I'm at right now. [laughter] >> I I think it would be good. I mean, I'm not really opposed to the concept. I'm

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I So, I went I spent this weekend, as you know, I have no life. And I looked at uh this and I told Mr. Turman about this. They they have a lot of experience. I I I it's hard for me though to invest then they have basically two principles, two brothers.

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They're based in Virginia. It's hard for me to believe that they can be really focused if and I looked at their schedule. They're booked through the entire year. That tells me, hey, a lot of people want to use their services. That's great. Um, and you know, the other the other thing is, and maybe this

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is me just being wonkish, the website hadn't been refreshed since 2017. And when you go to a website, that tends to tell a lot about the entity. There's no doubt there's all these superlatives. And I noticed in Pennsylvania, Capital Area Intermediate Unit, Dover, East

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Pennsboro, Governor Mifflin used them. So, I mean, I I think there's a lot to it in my mind. um because you want to get support for this project and in my mind I I would delay it until we have

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more discussion. I hate to keep delaying stuff. Uh and we certainly can vote on it. Um but uh it seems to me if I'm measuring the board there's um some uneasiness. >> I am not comfortable with block

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scheduling. I will never be comfortable with block scheduling. So, and I feel that this person, this group is very much pointed towards block scheduling. And so, that's where I stand. I get that you that it's a lot of um work that's going

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to need to be done, but I think you have community that might step up. You have some parents, you know, we East has had a very difficult time having a PTO, but there are definitely some parents that could share their input. Um, yeah,

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there's one right out there in the audience. Um, but anyways, I I just I I won't stand be I I can't stand behind something that I know that this person, this group, a lot of it was block scheduling. And I just from my 22 years in education have not a fan of block

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scheduling. So, that's where I stand. Where does it say that it's blocking? >> That's what a lot of the schools have gone with. And >> if you look at the research, it is very much um push towards block scheduling. >> Do we have block scheduling now? >> No.

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>> But but the counter but the counter is the counter is if the community engagement and the commit and the stakeholders are 180 degrees away from block scheduling, that's what drives the process. It's not the consultant. The consultant is the facilitator. The

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consultant works on our behalf. And so, you know, it's up to the it's up to the community and the stakeholders to talk about what are non-negotiables. What what is important that that we need to have, whether it's the music folks having their situation or whatever. And

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so and so I would just push back slightly and say that that ultimately the consultant is responsible to the to the administration and that you know it's the engagement of the community and the stakeholders that determine the

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direction of the schedule. >> You could have a >> and then that's off the table I would >> well no you could have >> but there might be people that like it. I mean I don't >> I I mean the mandate could be more ex inclusive and block scheduling and you know what constituents felt would would

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be the best. I I I don't know. >> I mean he clearly is saying yeah he he knows about three different types of scheduling. >> There's a 50inut there's a 50inut period >> ways to do it >> 60-minute period. There's all types of periods that you can create. So, if you if you go online and look at their

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schedules, it hasn't been updated since March 17th, 2012. They have 18 examples for elementary school, five for middle, and 18 for high school. I looked at them, couldn't understand it, to be honest with you. But, um I I guess what

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I'm saying is in order for this to be successful, I think the board has to be supportive of an effort. And I agree. >> And I think, you know, Mr. determine maybe we can amend it so that when the guy gets its marching orders is just not block schedule but other options. I I I don't know.

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>> Agreed. >> Here here's where I I stand with all this. >> Mr. Turman, we've given him a budget to spend however he chooses he feels he needs >> um to help accommodate him to be as successful as he can. I don't feel that

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I should be stepping in even though I'm required to vote to say how you should spend that money. you have a certain amount of money and if it this is a priority that you that you think will help you in getting the job achieved for

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our students, I'm for it. That's that makes sense. I I agree that if he needs that, he needs what he needs. But we ask about the budget. Nobody in this board even knew about this line item. We requested information and we did not get that information. >> I understand it. I just It's my fault. I

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apologize for not getting it to you guys sooner. I just emailed it out to you guys. It's a 47 It's about $47,000 line item in his budget for this particular professional service. Um I did email it out to you guys. The two items that go in there were PSBA fees and um this particular service. That's the two items

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that go in there. So to expand on what I'm saying, if he has $47,000 and he feels that this is that much of a priority for him to spend 27,000 of it, it doesn't matter budget or no budget. He's still going to have that bucket that is

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>> I think the point Dave is making is that the money's there. Nobody knew it was there and it's not nobody did anything untored. Um and that's why I'm saying if if it's Mr. Turmans, I don't know what the the fund is. Peter discretionary fund he can do with it as he wants. I

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believe that he simply and I could be wrong Mr. Turman would like board support or you know board endorsement. >> Well I just once again we we went through this process a year and a half ago. You know it was a little bit of a struggle which is fine. Um you don't learn until you fail. So you came back

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from that and said okay what do you do when you reenter and you do it again. So this is nothing more than you know if there's agreement like hey we don't want block schedule and we don't want this then you take that into the committee and I'm already knowing that. So this is

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not something where I'm coming in there saying that I want block schedule and that's it because I can just do that and move forward. I I don't need anybody's permission. I could create a schedule for the high school tomorrow roll it out and say this is what we're doing. But we're not doing that. We're trying to engage people to make sure everybody has

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an understanding of what it would be across the board. So, you know, this is I have no agenda with this. The only thing I ask is that we our kids have more time with their with their teachers. It's all I ask. It's all I ask. Whatever that whatever shakes out

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of that, if it's 50 minutes, if it's 60 minutes, you can do a block schedule. And I'm giving you an example. You [clears throat] can do a block schedule and it's not a block. meaning it's a block schedule, but you can cut the periods in half. So, one period could be English, the next period could be

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remediation because this student needs it. So, let's take an ESL kid. All right, this ESL student needs a block block period, the other student doesn't. There's plenty of schedules that are out there. I just want someone who can take the information that's given and create a schedule that's going to be and be

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conducive for our students. That's all I ask. Um, we've spent a lot of we've put a lot of money towards using this other IU that's in I can't remember >> county. Did they not do something of this regards?

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>> Well, I didn't ask. Honestly, this gentleman came highly regarded in terms of his knowledge for schedules. So, I was not interested in somebody who does this. [clears throat] I was interested in someone who could come on board, look at our situation, and create a custom schedule for us. What you're going to

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find is somebody I can once again I can give you four or five schedules right now. You can look up and as my friend over here you can look on chat GBT. It can give you six schedules but that's not really the process that we want to use.

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>> All right. I'm going to call the vote and we're going to do a roll call vote. >> Um >> but okay. So Mr. Turman then just to be clear you're not locked in with the block schedule. >> No. No. All right. So you're willing to look at other options based on the

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feedback from the community. >> Correct. And based on what that that committee and what they have in terms of what their recommendations are and but we will also Eric just to be clear is we're going to go look at all different types of schedules >> and then come back and have a lot of

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conversation. So this isn't just saying here's the schedule like we may come back and have four or five different schedules that we've looked at on on other school districts. Come back and have some discussion. So, this is a year-long process to land on something by the end of next school year.

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>> My only question goes with the uh it says cost will not exceed 27,000. >> Yeah. >> But then people keep bringing up this $500. >> Yes. So, the consultant is one very good question. The consultant is one is I'm only going to use him when I see fit. >> That's why I'm putting it under me. So,

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it's $4,500 for him to come out and spend the entire day. um if he's just going to start creating schedules at home and send us examples, it's not the same fee, if that makes sense. So, in the course of a year, we're not going to spend more than 27. >> So, you're committing to keep it 27,000.

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>> Correct. We're under. Correct. And it'll be some him being on site, but some of him being at home uh working through some things for us. Card, I don't see 27,000 in the the attachment you sent, but >> it was 47,000 and it's in line item

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number line Excel line number 10. >> Can I professional services? >> Yes, under 330 professional services. >> I got you. Oh, I see it. >> Can I add something? I just want >> I'm sorry. 43,850. >> I just want to touch base to what Eric said. Did we know that the

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superintendent had a budget of his own? >> I did. I didn't know what that was. I mean, but we have the same thing with principles. Principals have their budget. I don't know what that is, but I don't feel like I'm there to tell them what they should and shouldn't be doing

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for their schools. >> I guess that's my >> I'm just trying to further explain what I'm >> My point is not about the money or the fund. I think the superintendent should have a discretionary fund. My point is if you have a discretionary fund, why are we voting on it? >> Well, I agree. And I'm just also

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concerned that we've had so many consultants that we've hired over the course of time and all been successful. >> All our consultants have been successful and we've made money off of them. >> Um, so I I get a lot of public feedback and comment and one of the things that I

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do hear as a frequent area of concern whether it's valid or not I still listen. I'm an elected official. That's my job to listen to the community. And there is a lot of concern about the money that we have a district has spent on consultants and the fees to consultants. And um so the question is

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is this something that we really need a consultant for or does proper engagement of the community and doing some focus groups and things like that >> kind of remove that necessity and also take the questionability um of what Janelle's concern is which is sort of

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it's a means to an end that that particular person wants to have anyways which would be block scheduling. Yeah, and just to join in on that, you know, this is something I think this administration should do, but I I have taught block scheduling. Um,

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I can do it. I I didn't think it was the best way to go, but I'm just going to throw out there, um, everything I read when I looked everything up on the internet, this is leaning towards block scheduling. I it's not that I don't believe that there could be another outcome, but I think the block

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scheduling outcome is if I were to bet that's what I would bet on the outcome of this. Um, and I'll go back. You talk about what we've done in the past. I'll go I can't remember everything that we've spent a lot of money on and doesn't exist anymore. I think the the the first one I remember is outcomebased

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education, although that was a state thing. Um, and then there was learning focus, which we spent a lot of money on, everyday math, and I'm sure there's some other ones out there that I'm forgetting that we spent a lot of money. And, um, we are, you know, even though we said

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that we were told that we had input, the input was really listening. That was our input. Um, I'm I'm just I I think the money could be better spent. If if it can be done without our vote, then I think at least from my point of view, uh then that's how it's going to

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have to be done. >> As a solicitor, so if we vote no, that's just us saying we don't want it. But if it's superintendent's own budget, they could still do it if they want. >> Correct. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not solicitor. Uh

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>> okay. So >> they just want such support. I don't I don't I'm not sure how that budget was set up. I mean, if the if there's spending of money, I think the board has to vote on it. Um I I don't know that that account is like cart

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blanch that anything could be, you know, spent out of that account. So, I do think the board approval is required. >> That doesn't make sense to me. We approve a budget. His budget is 47,000

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whatever change. >> Well, is that is that what the is that >> I mean we've never put in parameters that if it exceeds 10,000 or 25,000. >> We had zero in the budget last year. >> I thought we had a certain threshold. I don't know what that was that had to be boarded.

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>> We have a certain threshold to put uh to expose purchases over 25,000 in the treasurer's report. That's the only thing we've had, but we've never put that I've been here >> any restrictions. >> Last year his last year the budget line

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item was zero. So there wasn't accounting for a particular purchase like this in there. Um so when the budget was is approved um there is a theory but it's not like but it's also a contract too. So

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>> yeah look regardless if we have to or not I think Mr. determined to move forward should have support of the board and I don't know if they're going to get it tonight. So, I'm suggesting and it's up to Mr. Turman. I guess it's your call to postpone it, but I'm sensing that

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split decision. Uh, and and I think a lot of it has to do with what people don't know. You know, I think if we had time to examine it, maybe it would. But also, Mr. Jacobs, maybe nothing changes. And it's I I'm just sensing that we're split here.

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I mean can I ask you we've we've made and Kristen has alluded to us hiring consultants but every consultant that we have hired has produ has provided us with positive results that it has ended up saving us money. could you account

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for for that and give us a list of those consultants because >> so >> honestly it's we hired you know the grant writer and they've they've gotten us millions of dollars and none of that has come back to to show the public that

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these votes or or us hiring these consultants have paid off. So we did the audit uh that was year year ago um and we all saw the audit findings I believe that was over the summer. Those audit findings now have helped Dr. Box with direction on terms of writing curriculum

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writing writing. >> Uh we also did the in terms of looking on uh coming up with a framework. Uh we started with that took an entire three four five months working through the framework. We are now at this point in time the district owns it and we're taking that framework and we're working

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through that framework with all of our teaching staff. So >> we actually use it >> correct and it's a framework now that is every teacher has. So >> let me just rebut that genie with two words. Vern Mc Mckiss he was and is a consultant and we made a

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mistake and we made >> we did make a mistake but that >> well it's a $4 million mistake >> but we regardless the projects that we have ongoing regardless if it was McKiscich we had to hire a a firm >> I don't disagree I'm not necessarily

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opposed to this I just want to go into it with you know last year we crapped the that we didn't prep. It was a disaster. So, I I think there's a need to look at scheduling. I just want to make sure that we have the widest possible. Um, >> and and I guess I'm not even looking at

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the scheduling. What I'm looking at is micromanaging, whether it be him or any anyone or principles or whatever on things that they think their their audience or whatever their customers need and we're going to micromanage those purchases. I'm not an

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expert in scheduling. I'm not an expert in education, but we've hired him to be that person to guide us and to lead this district forward. And I just want to support him. And if it turns out to be a bus, that is >> that's his part of his budget that he

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just he just blew. >> Um, but you know, you learn on a lot [clears throat] of those things. >> I just don't want to go down that slippery slope of micromanaging everyone that has a budget. I'm not we're not talking about it. It's on the agenda.

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So, it's an action item and we're discussing it. We've had a trillion items that are less than 27,000 and we approved don't approve. So, I think there's three different issues. One is the superintendent is definitely entitled to have a fund. Uh the other

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one is micromanagement, but I think the one before us is whether or not we're going to proceed with a vote on this proposal. >> So, we have a motion and a second. Yes, >> Miss McConnell, you call the role. >> Mr. Dornan,

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>> I'm still reading this. Uh, >> I I I'll vote yes. >> Mr. Epstein, >> no. >> Mr. Garlic, >> yes. >> Mr. Gordon, >> no. >> Mrs. Hanford, >> no. >> Mr. Jacobs, >> yes.

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>> Mrs. Webster, >> yes. >> Mrs. Bingamin, >> no. Mrs. Kavali. >> No. >> The motion passes with five affirmative votes. >> Oh, I think it's the other. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> No, it's the other way. >> Motion fails.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Moving on to new business. Item 8001, personnel report. Mr. Turman, >> the administration recommending approval of the personnel report as discussed in executive session. May I have a motion to approve? >> Motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second.

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>> Questions. >> All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> Item 8002, adjudication of student cases 1353, 1354, 1355, 1356, and 1357. Mr.

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Chairman, >> the administration recommending approval of the adjudication of student cases 1353, 1354, 1355, 1356, and 1357 as discussed in executive session. >> May I have a motion to approve? >> So moved.

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>> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. >> Opposed? >> I. Item 8003, memorandum of understanding with act 93. Mr. Chairman, >> the administration recommending approval of the memorandum of understanding with

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act 93 regarding summer working hours. This item will appear on the May 26, 2026 board agenda for approval. Um, this was the same uh item that we put on the agenda last year. Uh, those in act 93 were required this year to attend

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events. uh that would be athletic events, any events in the school so that we cut down on cost of security at those. Um what I'd be asking for in return is that they are allowed to work 8 to 4 Monday through Thursday. >> Again, this is not a voting item for

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tonight. If you have questions between now and the next meeting, please direct them to Mr. Turman. >> Mr. Turman, also uh Randy, thank God I got it right. Um so this is similar to what was in force last year. Yes, >> correct. >> Same thing.

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>> All right. >> Item 8004, memorandum of understanding with CDEA. >> Administration will recommend is recommending approval of the memorandum of understanding with CDA contract with third parties to obtain the following services for students physical and

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occupational therapies therapy services speech language pathologists and school psychologists. The sign will appear on the May 26 port agenda for approval. This is just an agreement that we will keep those positions that we are contracting open. Uh and we are still going to continue to try and hire staff.

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Once staff are hired, we will not have the contracted person in the role. >> Again, not for a vote uh for tonight. Item 8005, memorandum of understanding with CDESPA. Mr. Chairman, >> the administration reckoning approval of

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the memorandum of understanding that with CDESPA to retain the services of contracted support staff professionals on a temporary basis during the 2627 school year. This item will appear on the May 26, 2026 board agenda for approval. Same goes here uh that we are

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keeping those positions open. Uh anytime a contracted person is in one of those roles, but we hire a staff member um we move away from the contracted position. Item 8006, tax collection agreements. Mr. Bard, >> God bless you. Thank you.

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>> The administration is recommending approval of the agreements between Central Dolphin School District, the Burough of Dolphin, the Burough of Penrook, and Dolphin County for the collection of of real of the real estate taxes. The terms of the agreements are 2026 through 2030. This item will appear on the May 26, 2026 board agenda for

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approval. These docu these two agreements are renewals of the agreements that are expiring of this year. They do not include any uh increases for fees >> that over the term of the agreement. >> Um I'm not sure. I'd have to review them, but

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>> check and see. I mean because I I tax collecting is not an easy job. >> I agree with you. I will I will check I will check and I will have an answer for you at the next meeting. Item 8007, Central Dolphin School District Sports Summer Camps. Mr. Chairman,

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>> the administration recommending approval of the following Central Dolphin School District Sports Summer Camps. This item will appear on the May 26, 2026 port agenda for approval. EHS boys basketball June 15th to the 17th at EHS. CD baseball be June 16th to the 17th at CD

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High School. EHS baseball camp the 17th and 18th at Panther Park. CD boys basketball the 29th to the 2nd at CD High School EHS cheer youth camp. There'll be August 8th, 2026 at the East High School main

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gym. That is open to anyone. >> Again, not for a vote tonight. Item 8008, grant writer agreement. Mr. term. >> The administration recommending approval of the grant writer agreement with Community Center Consulting LLC for a term to begin August 7th, 2026 through

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August 6, 2028 at a cost of $40,000 annually. This item will appear on the May 26, 2026 port agenda for approval. So far, in terms of grants, which have been awarded to the district this year, um just this year alone, we have won $2.8 million in grants. The boost grant

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is going to summer learning, PCD mental health, uh is going to weapons detection and behavioral staffing, school-based mental health, school psychologists, and social workers for student mental health. This was $1.7 million over a 4-year period of time awarded to the district. The school to work grant wrote

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that grant was able to get $250,000 where we were going to establish a education pathway at both of our high schools and then also a nursing pathway at both high schools. the education pathway is underway and also the PCC school grant which was $349,000.

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Those grants that are still in the hopper. We have the big one is the PA school facility improvement grant. Sent a sent information to the board that we are now into the final stages of possible being able to get that grant that would be for

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$5 million to help offset some of the cost at North Side Elementary School. And there's other list of grants here anywhere from $200,000 um all the way up to five and then we have uh some for PennDOT $288,000 that will help with some of the the work that

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we want to do at the ASME building. Um but we have applied for several grants this year. Um have been awarded five and hopefully we'll be awarded more as we move forward. Total in the pipeline right now is $12 million in grants. >> And what do we get this year? I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman.

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>> We got $2.8 $8 million this year. >> Okay. >> What was the cost? Do you know the cost of the >> $40,000? >> It was the same. >> Same. >> Yeah. >> Yep. No difference. >> So, I just I did email Mr. Turner. I had questions, but she answered and I just asked if we would be um looking to uh

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get a funds from the Cal Ripken STEM project. I think one of our schools got it. majority of our >> so >> all but one elementary school um got the Cal Ripken grant for their STEM labs and so we only we purchased for that one

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school that did not receive it. >> So that we don't even need to do the effort. They we've got them all and then we purchased for the other. >> Mhm. >> All right, Mr. Chairman. I look like an idiot on that. >> That's all right. >> Again, uh this item will appear on the next agenda for approval.

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Moving to item 809, public speakers. This is the second of two opportunities for the public to address the board on any item that they wish. And we have one individual signed up to speak. Uh Mr. Steven Gristo. >> Good evening. Thank you for allowing me

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to speak. First of all, I wanted to uh mention whoever could take care of this. This was on my property, Central Dolphin School District Transportation Department. So, whoever take care of that, >> I'll take it. >> Uh, besides that,

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>> thank you. >> Um, considering as far as students are concerned, I've noticed that there are students that are left there while the bus is gone. They're coming before 7:00. And I think they ought to do what they can to stop them from coming before 7.

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They shouldn't. They should be from 7:00 on. And I've seen it. and they're left there standing. In one case, I told the student, "Sorry, the bus already left. We ought to do what we can to have the buses not come before 7:00 a.m." Um, considering a lot of what was

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discussed tonight as far as students trying to learn and what they're learning. Let's do a little bit on the way of statistics. So the budget for this year is $272

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million. 2627 give or take. Maybe I'm off a little bit. Five years ago it was $200 million. That's $75 million in five years.

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And considering the the amount of money that's been spent in those five years, what are we getting [clears throat] for our money? I heard some statistics here tonight. Do you know that the Central Dolphin

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East High School, these are state statistics, not mine, not off the whatever in reading is 50%. 50%. Are you satisfied with that?

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[snorts] I heard Eric say, uh, I'm teaching again. He says they got the attention of a flea. >> Fruit fly. >> Fruit fly. Same thing. But it's the point. It's the point though. >> That's a sad statement really.

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>> And it's 21 to 22% proficient at math. How can you get in a society when you can't do math? 75% cannot do math. High school statistic. [clears throat]

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Central Dolphin East High School 21 to 22% is proficient. Are you satisfied with that? That's a question we got to ask. You're talking here. What do we do? We this consultant that's consult all these

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millions spent 75 million in five years for what? These are the questions we got to ask ourselves. And you just mentioned all the areas collected, Penrook, this district, that district. I've been paying taxes a long

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time, which I said before. When are we that are over 65 going to get a break from this? And has any progress been made since I made that statement months ago? Anybody? Students get up here, they're all excited.

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this game, that game, the choir, this, that. Well, I want to tell you something. Shapiro is no friend of mine. Not when you want to spend one million of taxpayer money on your private home for partial landscapers. And I'm a landscaper on the side. [clears throat] So, and he's no friend

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of the unborn baby, which is an endangered species in Pennsylvania. That's for sure. So, with the money that's being spent and our governor wanting to pour more money down a hole and we're getting these kind of statistics,

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can we really be satisfied with that? Are you Are you I mean, look at yourself in the mirror when you go home, when you get up in the morning. Are you satisfied with that? [snorts]

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and all the money that's being spent and we're trying to figure out in our minds what can we do to make it better. Maybe we ought to get back to the basics. Number one, the dress code distraction. Girls going to the bus stop in the

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morning wearing short shorts 38° this morning and she's got a blanket over her shoulder but wearing short shorts. Do you think that doesn't distract the young guy in the classroom? Come on. We all know the answer to that. You guys, we've all been teens. We know

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that. Number one, >> if you could wrap up, your time's up. >> Get rid of the distractions. Number two, okay, let's not have t-shirts. That's going to distract. Maybe we need to get back to geography, but think seriously

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of how you're using our money, please. Please, and give us that seniors a break. Thank you, >> Stephen. And I can talk to you afterwards, but when you ask, I mean, it's like an indictment the way you posed the question. We have 23

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buildings. We have a fleet of buses. We have to repair roofs. We have to repair and keep up to date playgrounds. And the amount of money we have, what that's discretionary is less than what 20%. So, we are also having to adhere to

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unfunded mandates. And you maybe you're not aware of it, but there is an autism uh crisis. We have to deal with special ed. We have to deal with English as a second language. So, we take on all people and treat them equally and hope they get an equal opportunity. Um, but

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you need to understand we have bills that we have to pay. Electric went up, water went up, sewage went up, gas went up. Multiply that by 19 >> and that you'll see that's where most of the funds are going. Brother, >> I hear you. I hear you and I understand

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those things and I do take that in consideration. But the amount that's actually being focused on the child to actually learn >> cell phones, let's face it, they're addicted. They're there at the bus stops. They don't even talk to each other. >> I'm not going to >> They don't even communicate with each

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other. >> We'll have a conversation afterwards and then I'll convince you that I'm absolutely right about everything. >> All right, that's your >> Moving on to item 8.10, board representative reports. Are there any?

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>> Um, I just wanted to point uh I don't think we anybody on the board mentioned it because last week wasn't a board meeting, but I did want to say um happy teacher appreciation week. Happy nurses school nurses week. Um I think it was principles. I mean, it was all the

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things in May. So, >> Mother's Day. >> Oh, mother's happy. Yeah. Happy >> Did you get the flowers? >> I I didn't. >> Okay. I didn't send it. >> It's okay, though. My dog ate my chocolate. >> Yeah, I'll have to send one actually. [clears throat] >> But just want to say all the

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thank you to all of them. >> Other board representative reports. >> Um Peter and I met with Mike uh Stra who's our senior rep with PSDLAF. Um you guys may have heard I was

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concerned about fees. Um and there are fees. Um but they straighten it out. Um, I'm gonna speak in a little different language here. Uh, the highest we'll pay is 25 basis points. A basis point is 1/100th of a percent. Um, >> that's pretty good.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. So, the fees are good and that's the highest. So, on average on the actual liquids money, we're about 13 basis points. Um, and the way they do it that it's different than my industry where you see it. Um, they report it

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basically after they give us net of fees. But bottom line is it's very reasonable. Um, and and I was happy that we were able to go through that. And then I also looked up all their U4s. Um, for any of you that know that our industry, we have a

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U4 that says if there's anything on our records and I was happy that there was nothing to worry about. We were all clean. >> Tom, we appreciate you using your uh professional experience and engaging with that. So, thank you. >> Other board representative reports. >> Just a quick shout out to Dr. Porter at

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Linglestown Middle. I went to the musical last night uh and with my kids and my grandkids. I've been going there for over 20 years, 30 years. And uh best behaved uh probably the most talented kids I've seen in a long time. They did

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a really good job last night. Very impressed. Other board representative reports. Moving to item 8.11, board committee reports. >> Well, we have a scintillating finance

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committee meeting Thursday 4:30 and we will include the other topic we were assigned and I'm not going to steal Dave's thunder. >> Yeah. Then right after the um buildings and grounds, which will probably be like 10 o'clock at night after you're done. >> No, no, no. We're going to be quick.

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>> No, we also very exciting, right? Yeah, I just finance >> and just for the public's own u knowledge and those joining us online um uh at at the behest of recommendations of community members the the committee meetings will be made available online

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during and so you'll be able to um you should be able to get those I believe it's through Microsoft Teams or I'm not sure if we're using Zoom whatever but >> so it will be on YouTube the same as the board meetings so it will be on that same channel. >> So, is it live or is it just posted a

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recording afterwards or both? >> Both. >> Okay. >> Well, so we'll have to watch our behavior. So, the uh >> Yes, sir. >> So, Okay. Thank you. Well, I mean, uh, Mrs. Lopez and Mr. Turman, thank you because that got up and on and we tried

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to respond to the public. We had we just I don't know why we weren't able to do it years ago, but thank you for getting it done and thank you, Mr. Turman. Moving. Uh any other board committee reports? >> What's uh we have >> 27th? >> That's after our next meeting.

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>> 27th of May. >> Personnel, >> policy, andademic. >> But Peter, for us at finance, this is the last meeting of the year. >> No, we have one in June. Um but this one in particular is going to be important because we're going over the preliminary

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final budget. And I like to uh this is important because it's Mr. Epstein's first one public where he asked to watch his behavior. So I think it's important you turn for >> item 8.12 sympathy resolutions. Mr. Turman >> sympathies are extended to the family of Susan de Armit former computer

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technician on her passing. >> Sympathies are extended to the family of D Mahi Mjahi custodian at Paxton Elementary on her passing. >> Item 9.01 adjournment. May I have a motion? So moved. Is there a second? >> All those in favor? I

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>> I opposed meeting adjourned.