I'd like the call to order the December 8 Chapel City Council meeting. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Good evening, and welcome, everybody. Item three, additions or corrections. Michelle? Yes. I have three additions, please. I'd like to add resolution 2,025 dash 93, the transfer of funds to the administrator's report, the,
truck rate under the public works committee report, and then the Division Street lift stations under the Public Works Committee report. Your staff recommendation, looking for a motion to approve. I'll move. Second by Paul, second by Josh. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Consent agenda, Items a through j. Looking for a motion to accept. So moved. Motion by Dave. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Pam. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. I opposed? Perfect. Item five,
truth in taxation public hearing. I'd like to open up for the public hearing for anybody in the audience that wants to speak. If it's okay, I'll do a little presentation. And then if there's any questions, we can go from there. K. So we started out building our 2026 budget. We that includes the operating budget, debt service. We looked at our guidelines, our goals, and what happens what's the impact of those things. We, of course, take into account our guiding principles, and I think one of the most important things is maintaining a steady predictable local
local tax rate so we're not having big peaks and valleys. Maintain our current city's debt per capita and, maintain reserves in our enterprise funds. We're also looking to maintain our public safety and public works programming to maintain the service and that we currently give, maintain our technology, and, of course, maintain our strong bond rating and financial position. We also looked at department goals. And I won't read every every line, but what you'll see is on for almost every department, we're looking at our capital goods plans and aligning them with our capital outlay policy
and our fixed assets just to make things a lot more streamlined and easier for everybody to understand and cross talk discuss across departments. In the general fund, we're still continuing to talk about succession planning, our staffing changes, and just reevaluating duties. In the municipal building, we're looking at security cameras. We're looking at doing LED lighting. And then the police department, of course, will have our staff transition with our chief of police position. Let's see. And then in the parks, upgrading some equipment,
looking at some different playground equipment and the possibility of expand expanding, sorry, the bathrooms in the city park. Our library wants to identify new opportunities for programs and partnerships, continue to explore and facilitate opportunities to strengthen existing and grow new partnerships, build opportunities for the community, engage with the library, curate collections to meet a wide variety of community interests and needs, and update the library's mission and vision statements to ensure the library's actions align with
its immediate purpose and long term goals. Ambulance, as always, we're continuing to review the staffing model and make sure that we are remaining at, able to meet the service needs. And then as well as that, look at the compensation of how to enhance coverage. We're still looking for community development, looking into new lodging establishments and promote new housing and, of course, expand business development. The water department is still working on the lead and copper regulation implementation, and wastewater is currently completing the facility plan so that we'll know more about how
that looks and what the future looks like. The biggest cost drivers were the escalating equipment prices, technology, equipment security, insurance, and inflation. So included in the 2026 budget is a 3% pay grid adjustment, 50% leave conversion funding. The initial payment for the street project that we'll talk about in just a little bit here. This the police department schedule is just noting that they do have additional hours and we're just accounting for that this year. The public works department includes their again.
Same with the police department includes their weekend and overtime. Security cameras for here at city hall and then the Minnesota new paid leave. So this is just a quick summary of the departments and what makes up those needs for the total asking. And then just a visual for that so you can see the different departments and the percent of the total budget that that takes. But here's I'm a numbers person, so I apologize. But to me, what does all that mean? How does that impact us? That's really what we wanna know.
So we're asking for tonight for a 5.38% increase over last year's levy. But again, what does that mean and how does that impact our taxpayers? So the first we need to look at what's our total levy. And so this is just a history of the different levy amounts for the past few years that we have said this is what we need to operate the city. So we look at that, and then we look at what's our capacity. So that's how much property tax there is that the levy can be applied against. This is, again,
just a little quick history. This is how much the capacity has changed each year. Obviously, if you have a higher tax capacity, it's more you can spread out the tax levy more, so less of a burden to your taxpayers. I looked at ours, and we are 86% of our tax capacity is based on residential. And I say this only because we wanna of course, we want to expand our tax capacity, but expanding it in commercial and industrial would be a good idea for us and then, obviously,
to continue with residential as well. So you take those numbers. You take the total tax levied and divide it by the tax capacity, and that's when you get the tax rate. And, again, something we talked about one of our guiding principles is staying right at about that 90%. So we are doing that if you look at the his our history here. And just a visual for you to kinda see, we were up a little higher, but now we've been able to bring it down and would like to try to stay in that range. And just for your reference, I know this is pretty small, but this is just a little sheet visual sheet that we use to see debt
service when it's coming on, when it's going off, our future projects that we're considering based on when those other old debts fall off, and then as well as tracking our large capital equipment purchases, all in an effort to make sure we take that keep that tax rate at a level field. So but what does this mean for the property owner? I did the math based on a 300, 400, and $500,000 home. And what that means, if the valuation stays the same, the this 5.3% increase would be $25 extra annually to a $300,000
home, $41 annually to a $500,000 home. So my point in all this is you you see all these things in the news about the attack the levy increase for all the communities, but it's not telling the whole story. You really have to look at the capacity for that community. What does that mean? How is their community grown? And so that is the impact. So I just and I also just wanna just clarify that, there's county school taxes above and beyond that, but all we can control is what the city taxes. Do you have any questions for me?
Most of us sitting at this table have been through this before, you know, so we kinda know what what to expect. At least it's not a a huge increase. You're not I don't believe in our lifetime we're gonna see where your taxes go down. It's just not it's just not gonna happen with the cost of everything. Things are gonna continually go up no matter what whether you're at the grocery store or where you're at. Everything goes up. And I think our our people here do an amazing job of, you know, keeping a good hand on everything. Even when Joel was here, the same thing. Everybody try to keep it the way you can,
and that's all we can do. And, like I say, everybody at this table has been through this before. So on that note, anything else you got, Michelle? That's it? That's all I have. Anybody from the public have anything? One last call. Anybody else from the public got anything on that? Then I'll close that tax hearing. K. Item six, city city engineer report. Greg, come on up. Alright. Good evening, mayor and council. Tonight, I'm presenting the, final pay request. So this would be pay request number two, to Rochester Sand and Gravel on the 2025 Mill and Overlay project.
And, the total value of work to date is at $1,679,549.06. If you notice that is close to 110,000 over the original contract amount. And that is because we did add, well for a couple reasons. One, we did add some quantities for the ped ramps. We replaced five of the ped ramps in the area. And we also we also had to subcut some additional streets. There were some soft subgrade underneath, so we had a little bit of that.
We did replace some curb and gutter that was going to be part of a catch basin project, but that got shifted just because due to timing. We shifted that to the mill and overlay project, so that was about $15,000. So in total, all of those additional items that we added were close to $72,000 So that remains the remaining balance would be additional overrun on some of the quantities. So the retaining wall got to be more expensive than what we were originally planning just due to the larger block and the way the quantity was calculated.
So I think, you know, all it ended up looking really great, and, it was still less than the about $10,000 less than the the quote that was received last year, for the same work. So, so overall, I think the project went went well. Got a lot of work done in town, a lot of streets paved. And, and overall, they did a very nice job. So what we'd be looking for tonight is approval of the final pay request, and that would be in the amount of $451,865.42.
And and that does include the 55% retainage that is being withheld on the project. So the contractor still is looking at a few of these quantities here, but but if if this is proved tonight, I'll take it to them for their signature and and final approval. So I don't know, Paul, if you had anything to No. We spent probably most of our probably public works on this. We we kinda drill down on the ones that we're over, but the walls the wall is definitely there.
It's just, once I understood just laying the block, like, a lot of it disappeared, but you had to put it in. And so that's where some of the quantity overrun came, and then you'd we did add some for height and length. And so it was kind of a a work in work in project work in process project where, you know, some of the stuff that you end up having to take a little more when it came to curb and gutter and some of the other things. So, I mean, there was a couple errors, you know, here and there, but I I've not they were fairly minor for the most part. And, so we we just looked at the the the dirt number that was substantially higher
and the wall, and both of it adds up. So it's there. So in my mind, I'm I I I think we we could have maybe fought over 5 or $6,000, but all in all, I think we did a lot of a lot of work done at a good value. And so we wanna our money went a lot farther even though it's a little bit over. We got a we crossed a lot of stuff off the list in this project that for a lot less money than we were planning on for future. So I'm I'm I'm good with it. So I even I'm good enough with it that I'll make the motion to pay it. Okay.
Your staff recommendation, Paul made a motion. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Josh. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Fire department. Luke, do you wanna come on up? Alright. Good evening, everybody. First thing I got is, we looked into replacing our rescue tools. They weren't exactly due for replacement. They're ten years old. They should last longer. They, there's nothing wrong with our tools. We've had some issues with the hydraulics on them, just some couplers going bad and whatnot. But, we got another hose that went bad. But after looking into these battery tools more,
we decided to have a sales rep bring them down. So we got a quote for them, and the price has actually come down quite a bit from what they used to be. So, we'd like to start over with our rescue tools. So we got a quote there. That's for every rescue rescue tool that we have. It's the same brand that we currently have. Just all battery powered. So we'd like to go ahead and order all that stuff and switch over to all cordless tools. So I was looking for a motion to go ahead and get that order placed. Your staff recommendation,
looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Dave, looking for a second. Second. Second by Pam. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? The only thing to add to that is we'll be, there'll be a little labor involved on removing our hydraulics. We don't really know what that is yet. It should it's it's not major. It's just there's a couple hard plumbed items on the truck that we're gonna remove, and then we'll be looking to sell them. There's not much value to them. The sales rep we talked to we talked to a couple of them, but their upper 90 percentile now is,
sales are only battery. They're just dinosaurs. So we'll maybe offer it up to a local department if they can maybe upgrade to some newer tools and see what happens, but that's about there's everybody's gonna have a lot of value to keep for us or mount them on another truck for backup. It really is kinda pointless. So we'll probably end up just pedaling them or yeah. That's about a little amount too. So, second up, I've got next year's recommendation for our officers. So I hope somebody's gonna ask me. If you guys can see that list there.
I got, Peter Erickson for chief, Jason Baldner, first assistant, Mitch Irish, second assistant, Steven Schlichter, captain, James Danielson, captain, Chris Mussey, training officer, and Steve Schmiedenberg, safety officer. So I'm looking for a motion for, officers for 2026. Your staff recommendation, looking for a motion to approve. So. Motion by Pam, looking for a second. Second. Second by Josh. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Thanks. Alright. What was that? I'd like to thanks. Working with everybody for the last five years.
Looks like I just fired myself, from the chief's job for, till the end of the year anyways. But, no, it's been a pleasure working with the council, mayor, everybody here. You guys have been great. So thank you. Yep. Thank you, Luke. Continued business ordinance four eighty four and a policy for water and sewer operations. This is a second reading of the proposed ordinance and operation policies. Motion to approve the ordinance, summary for publication, and policies. So moved. Motion by Paul. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Josh. Any further discussion? All those in favor?
I. Opposed? Perfect. Item nine, new business. Eagle Scout project. Owen Schwanke, come on up. So for my Eagle Scout project, the city park is falling apart of it, and I would like to fix it up, mainly repaint the barn and fix places in the Tot Town and other areas with missing pieces. I would like to start this project in spring and finish it in the 2026, and I will have my true help, other people in the community who are willing to, those types of people. I currently have access to $750 in grant funds.
And if this is approved, I will reach out to businesses to see if they wanna donate to City Park, and my goal is to raise $2,000 total. I've been asked to build a structure around the porta potties at Green Park and make some landscaping around the yellow chair at City Park, and I will include that just in the project as well. And I am pretty sure that some of the materials have already been purchased. Okay. K. Do you hear it? Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Second. By Josh. Second by Paul. Any other discussion? All those in favor?
I. Opposed? Thank you, sir. Thank you. Buff Country Buff County Hiking Club. Jenny, come on up. Hi. So the first thing I'd like to say is thank you because I think for the last over ten years, we've, gotten $2,000 from the city to support our ongoing costs associated with the Lost Creek Hiking Trail. We have changed the time of the year when we make this request from spring to the fall, so we can anticipate any changes in cost over the last year. There have not been any real changes in our expenses. We continue to seek other sources of of revenue for special projects in grants,
which we did apply for a recent grant, which we were denied. So when that happens, we just don't do that project. But, I am just requesting ongoing support of $2,000. You hear you hear their recommendation? Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Paul. Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I. Opposed. Thank you. Perfect. Thanks, Janet. Thank you so much. Chatfield rope or safe route to school. Looking for a motion to pound that designation or oh, that's a drift. It's hiking trail, isn't it? Here too.
Sorry. My bad. Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for having me. I'm Alexa Shapiro, the trail director for the Minnesota Driftless Hiking Trail. We are a nonprofit that's based in Fillmore in Houston County trying to develop a 100 plus mile backpacking trail from Chatfield to the Mississippi River. And we're requesting that council motion to approve our proposed route, which would start at the end of the Lost Creek Hiking Trail, travel up 3rd Street to Winona Street, and then down Winona Street to Enterprise Drive and up Hillside Drive, where we would then exit the Chatfield area and continue on our route. And we're not requesting any funds from the city to to do this.
We have funding from the Legislative Citizen Commission on Minnesota Resources to fund the project. Okay. You hear the recommendation? Looking for a motion to approve the route. So moved. Motion by Josh. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Thank you. Thank you so much. Joel, you wanna come on up? Item d, the Transportation Management Organization. Thank you, mayor. Yeah. I'm here as a volunteer tonight with Southeast Minnesota Together, a group of people working to enhance transit options for our residents in Southeast Minnesota.
First of all, on their behalf, thank you for supporting, the T Mobile projects in the past, and that's why the leadership of the city has been key for that. Looking for three approvals tonight if we could. One is on the city state agreement. The other one would be a MOU or memorandum, understanding between the city and, Southeast Service Club, and then a twofold approval on, request for quotes. So the the city state agreement, allows the city to receive $45,000 in, grant funding from the legislature. The city would keep $1,000 another $44,000
would go into the project itself. The steps, anticipated in this project would be to determine really how the TMO should be set up, in terms of governance, structure, that type of thing, secure some funding for operating and formalize some some partnerships. Basically, the next step is to to set up and and establish a TMO. Would you like to do this one at a time or all three together? Otherwise, I'd take questions on that if you'd like me to stop. We can do all three together, I believe. Okay. The, the MOU, the memorandum of understanding, simply outlines the responsibilities of the city relative to the responsibilities of the Southeast Service
Co op and Southeast Minnesota together. In essence, the the city maintains all interactions with the state of Minnesota, submits invoices, provides general oversight to make sure the funds get used within the intent of the grant. And the Southeast Service Co op and and Southeast Minnesota together will do all of the work of the of the grant, write the RFQ, solicit vendors, work with the vendors to achieve the goals. And, the final thing is the RFQ itself. I think there's a copy in your packet. It's it's an RFQ that's request for quotes looking for a vendor to do the work
in the project. Once you approve the actual city state agreement and the MOU, then we have standing to submit that RFQ to the state of Minnesota for their review. So we're looking for approval to do that submission. And then, once, the state is happy with that, which means there might be some edits, to to be able to just move forward, and and some submit that for the paper k. You guys got any questions for Joel? Looking for a motion to approve. All of it. All of it. I'll make the motion. Motion by Paul. Looking for a second.
Second. Second by Pam. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Perfect. Alright. Thank you. Thank you, Joel. Yes. K. Down to item e is a sidewalk installation. John, I'd actually like to ask to table that discussion. The goal was to have the entire council here for that discussion. So For the sidewalk? For the sidewalk, if we could do that. Motion to postpone that. So Motion by Paul. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Josh. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Item f. Solar on the public buildings project. After extensive discussion with staff and the public works committee,
the recommendation is to not move forward with the project. K. You hear the staff recommendation not to move forward with that? Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Paul. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? K. Item g, resolution two thousand twenty five dash eighty five two thousand twenty six final tax levy. Motion to approve that resolution as presented from the personnel budget committee. So moved. Motion by Josh looking for a second. Second. Go ahead.
Dave? Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. On the committee reports, personnel budget and public works, Matt. That'd be me on both of them, I guess. While we spent, I would I would, I guess, the one thing that's coming up is, close the city office on a couple different days coming up here in a little bit. We talked about, moving forward with the ABC contract that'll be coming back, the cleaning services. That might need a little bit of work, but we're working on they're they're gonna work on that. We'll bring that contract back. It's ready to be, renewed. Talked about the Minnesota paid leave,
how that affects us. And then we spent most of the time, I guess, talking, ins and outs on the tax levy on the final things. There is there was or is the option that it could have been slightly lower. But there's, with talking to Kaye and Michelle, there's a few few outliers coming up the rest of this year and going into next year that we don't have in our budget. One of them could be the tennis courts. There's a couple other things. So there's a half a percentage point maybe that maybe could've been taken out. But at this point in time, we were comfortable leaving it in.
I think it's probably past due for the cameras. There's you know, we wanted to talk about maybe the cameras in this place and some upgrades. But we're leaving it in we're leaving it in. We're gonna get that stuff done. I think we're a little past due for the technology here, and then we'll take a good look at the the little bit of money that we left in. And going into next year. If we're gonna stay the course of what we're doing, we'll take that out. Or at least that'd be my intention was we can can reallocate that or take it out. So so that was that was a tax levy, and we've been working on it. And the staff has worked on it,
Michelle and Gaye and everyone. I mean, we've been working on it since July. So, you know, kind of the ins and outs, it really gets down to the last little bit. And the $2,030,000 dollars is what you really end up fighting over at the end. So that that's that was our personal budget. Public works, we spent our probably a majority of our time, talking about the street project and and figuring out the overage and making sure everything was there, and then we already approved that. So that's great. If you didn't look at it, there's the sidewalk repair summary thing that Brian and that crew that does that, and that's that's some good information on how much it saves us by doing the
the grinding and the cutting versus the replacement. We've had a storm, storm drain concern, up by the high school. We're letting that be for now. There is an action item coming up. The Division Street lift station pumps are near in the end of their life. They're 27 years old. So I know we've rebuilt them a couple times to the point of needing to be replaced before we have a failure. And it's, if we do it now, give them the okay to order them now. We pay for them when they come. That's 10% cheaper. So I think that's 18 what is it? 18,000. But, anyway, we're looking to
get that on the oh, maybe I'm wrong. That's a total yeah. $18,002.69 ish. So to order those two pumps, if we do it by the end of the year, we save 10%. It'd be higher next year if we don't do it. So good. So that's an action item for tonight then? Action item for tonight because we don't have another meeting. Your staff recommendation, looking for a motion to approve that purchase. So moved. Motion by Josh. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. There's might be some issues in the Fillmore Room, so we're getting that.
We're having somebody come down and take a look at maybe some repairs and some mediation on a few things in that room. So that'll be coming back. And then also, the snow removal, the outside carriers that help with the snow removal, the we're looking to change the rate of that to a $120 an hour, and then leaving everything else the same, the three hour minimum and the four hour minimum, but change that from what it is to $1.20 an hour. So that'd be an action item too in case we need them. Sure. Yep. For tonight. That'd be an action item for tonight. You hear that recommendation? Looking for a motion to approve.
So moved. Motion by Dave. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Paul. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Alright. Opposed? I'm not abstain. And that was it. Well, wasn't it, but that's all we need to talk about. Alright. Item b is a personnel policy PTO accrual agreement or amendment. Consider recommendation for approval of suggested amendments. Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Paul. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Josh. Any other discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. Item c is request to close the city office December 26 and January 2.
Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Dave. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Pam. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Perfect. Item d, Minnesota paid leave. Approval $50.50 split of the premium for Minnesota paid leave as allowed by law. Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Paul. Looking for a second. Second. Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? K. Item e, Paul already got through that, so we're done with that one. So now we're down to the mayor's report.
I just like to commend Brian and his guys on on the work on keeping the streets good and clean and everything like that. You guys work hard. Our officers do a fine job out getting the tickets written. Said it numerous times, whether you're in town or out of town, you know it's wintertime now. We could be like some other towns in the area that you cannot park on the streets from October to April, period. So I think we do a good job here. So I'm gonna leave it at that, and there's some maybe some bad weather coming, ice and stuff coming too again. So we'll see what happens there.
And on that note, I'm gonna pass it over to Michelle. Thank you. I'll start off with the resolution 2025Dash93, which would authorize the transfer of funds from the construction project for our most recent street project that we just authorized that final payment for. Use those extra put those extra funds into the debt service for that project, and then close the construction fund. You hear staff recommendation? Looking for a motion to approve. So moved. Motion by Paul looking for a second. Second. Second by Josh. Any further discussion?
All those in favor? I Opposed. Perfect. And then I just would like to say thank you. I think it's been a great year. We've got a got a lot of things done and looking forward to 2026. So thank you to the council and our staff and a really great team to work with. Perfect. Is that it? Yeah. Thank you. Down to round table, Beth. Just wishing everybody happy happy holidays and New Years and all that fun stuff. Ma'am? Same thing. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Dave. Paul. Well, there is I one thing I forgot in committee.
The last meeting, we were there was only three of us here, the tennis courts. And I don't know if we it's appropriate to bring that up, but it didn't it didn't pass. It didn't pass because one of the counselors didn't wanna do the project. It passed because he was had a question on when we would fund it. And I don't know if you guys are up to speed on the partner with the school on the tennis court thing, but I think they have a meeting two days from now. Mhmm. And so I don't know if it's worthy to talk about, but I I I think it I think it's a good project to partner on.
I think we have found the funding between partner rack and everybody. We found the funding to do it. So I was wondering if you guys were interested in having a discussion about that, that we could probably move that forward. And if you're willing to partner with that, and we can flush out the details to make everybody happy on when we would actually disperse the money to do the maintenance. So I don't know if that's too short a notice for you guys, but it was on the meeting last time. Mike was agreeable, and I think he, I'm not gonna speak for him, but he wasn't against doing it. He was the idea of, sending the money to the school before they needed it was was what he was,
had the discussion about. And he reiterated that at the end of the meeting. He said he talked about that. Yes. For it, he just wanted to figure out a different method of how the money ends as an in an escrow fund at the at the school essentially is what it is. So, anyway, I I don't know if now that we were hoping everybody was gonna be here, but if if you guys are willing, I think it's a good project to do. And they don't know if they're doing it or not, but at least with our support of doing the maintenance may help them make that decision on whether or not to do the upgrade. So to clarify, the motion did pass.
Yeah. That's what I thought too. It did pass? It was two to one of us. You and me. Yeah. Yeah. The, yeah, the majority vote went to yes. But he he did he he did vote against it, but it still did pass. I just I was wondering where you're going because you're only okay. Because you go on how many people are here. That's so it's still back on. Yeah. No. So we don't need to talk about it anymore. You guys dropped it over there. So yeah. And I was gonna ask I didn't ask some questions because I thought maybe there is some language involved for the two to one thing. It did pass. Okay. Yep. It was yeah. It doesn't go by how many are on the council.
It goes by how many are present at the meeting. And the majority of at the meeting said yes. So That's good to know. After twenty some years, Paul, that's good to know. That's good to know. I learned something. And I'll tell you that I'm good. Okay. I was really confused. I was gonna interrupt you there for a sec, but then I, like I said, thought there's some language. The only thing I have is just a big thank you to everybody who did the budget thing. I know you it sucks as a public trying to see it goes up 5%. You think about what we do, we've had what? I've been on here nine ish years, something like that, and there's been one time that it hasn't hovered right around that five or 6%,
which I think is just tremendous for living around here. You see some people take some really big increases, and they pay for a lot of stuff. And for the services that we get for a little r increase, yes, your tax statements do come out bigger, but a lot of that is not influenced by the city itself. It's it's all the outside factors. So just a huge thank you to that, and I just I think everybody did a tremendous job on it again. Okay. Thank you. Fred, you got anything? No. Thank you. I forgot you the last time, so I figured I better get you in on this one. Looking for a motion to adjourn. Some Motion by Pam.
Looking for a second. Second. Second by Dave. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Good night, everybody.