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[Music] good afternoon this is a hearing of the cham conservation commission being held on March 5th 2025 in accordance with the Massachusetts Wetlands protection act and the town of chadam wetlands
protection bylaw and regulations my name is Karen Laton and I serve as the chair today's hearing is being broadcast live on Xfinity channel 1072 and is being recorded for the on demand archives available on the town's website is being
conducted in person by phone and by video conference the agenda instructions on how to attend copies of documents for review are post on the town's website to all participants whether attending by phone or online please remain muted
unless you've been recognized by the chair when recognized please identify yourself for the record if you're attending by phone you can mute and unmute using star six if you're online and you're not a commissioner please keep your camera turned off unless you've been recognized indicate that you
wish to speak by using the raised hand feature so that we have a record of a quorum I will now ask each commissioner to indicate their presence Vice chair Alise Gordon present Janet Williams is not present Cheryl missery present Eric
Hilbert present Bob Delio is not present Paul Johnson present and I am here so we've established that we have a quorum before we begin the agenda Katherine are there any announcements about any requests for continuances today we have
two requests for continuance notice of intent for 44 Waterview Circle the applicant has requested a continuance to May 7th 2025 notice of intent for 141 abami run the applicant has requested a
continuance to May 7th 2025 thank you at this point Katherine Ricks chams assistant conservation agent will now lead us through the agenda we have a request for an order of conditions at 224 cranberry Lane map 15K parcel 10 for
Carolyn Foster Parker Mass D se10 3717 construction of a porch Edition within the buffer zone to a Coastal Bank okay do we have anybody here for
this I'm not on can you tell um David Clark here can you hear me oh yes hi David yeah uh I looked at the order it's pretty standard stuff I don't see anything this alarming okay great uh Commissioners do
any of you have anything to add or modify okay then we're ready for a motion I move that we close the hearing on 224 cranberry Lane and approve the order of conditions as written second okay Paul I Elise I Eric I Cheryl I and
I say I so you're approved thank you thank you all right Katherine the next please we have a request for an order of conditions at 600 Fox Hill Road map 12m parcel 6- P4 for Jonathan seam Mass D SE
10- 3720 septic upgrade okay again do we have anybody here for Fox Hill no okay okay do any Commissioners have anything to add
modify or delete on this one I guess not okay then I guess we can go to a motion please I move that we close the hearing on 600 Fox Hill Road
and approve the order of conditions as written second okay Paul I Elise I Eric I chery I and I say I so that's approved all right we're just moving right along Catherine okay we have a notice of
intent at 44 Waterview circle map 3C parcel 64 e- j9 for Grace Deon Aris Mass D se10 3705 proposed construction of a deck and sun room within the existing footprint of the deck at the rear of the house the
applicant has requested a continuance to May 7 2025 okay and I move that we continue 44 Water viiew Circle to May 7th 2025 second Paul I Elise I Eric I Cheryl I
and I say I all right the next please he notice of intent at 43 Morris island road map 16a parcel 1-10 for 43 Morris Island Road Mass D SE 10- 3712 proposed addition of a covered
porch with a roof deck on the rear of the existing home within the area of the existing stone patio how are you good evening for the uh Tim Santos from maril Engineers representing the applicant uh back
before you again hopefully for the last time um believe the projects was before you a few weeks ago and there are a few additional um revisions to the plan that needed to be done so we added the Wetland and the buffer associated with it that's on the
west side of Morris Island Road to the plan um as you can see we also updated the uh buffer zone Cals to um basically show that the un uh
permitted walls and steps would be uh proposed so they'd be an after effect and we discussed it at the last hearing um there was a request that the debris that was in the Dune be removed and so we put a note on the plan that that will be removed D and those areas
will be restored any anything that's Disturbed um one of the commission members asked us to look at the old uh edge of clearing on the bottom side of the uh the wall so we've kind of um added that edge of clearing to the plan
and it was noted that there was some area that was cleared so that will be restored it's shown on our plan as well as cm's plan um we have added a note to remove the sprinkler heads on the bottom side of the wall and and we're also proposing to minimize some of that lawn
area for removal of additional lawn that would be converted to a meadow um that's shown on our plan as well as the CLM plan and I think Jen is online and she can kind of review her plan quickly with you and then we'll address any questions you might
have okay Jen are you online I I am can you guys hear me all right yes we can thank you excellent I looked at the agenda you guys like flew through it we we are you're pretty much it
today all right well for the record Chen Crawford from Crawford Land Management um so yes so I think Tim summarized um everything really well essentially we did not change the area for invasive species management we kept that the same
we didn't um we didn't really change what we called out as um um the kind of infill area for lawn um removal in the buffer strip restoration that stayed the same um what we did do is uh added uh
some more square footage of restoration work based on um what Tim was able to um uh include as kind of that old vegetation line from the previous permit so we've restored that area fully and then we've reduced that the lawn on that
lower um on that lower area uh and included uh some blue stem Meadow with um some pollinator species um to increase the the buffer strip and and habitat value of um the buffer right outside the Dune there um it's pretty
straightforward uh in terms of you know the restoration work and what we would be planting um so I'll just leave it at that okay thank you all right Commissioners does anybody have any questions or comments
yeah go ahead Eric yeah thank you very much I know the new owners inherited this but in a way it'll be kind of a value on its own now it's cemented in the records and uh down the road they don't someone doesn't have to go through
that again um yeah this is great thank you thank you um anybody else I have one comment and I get you redid the coverage
table I struggle with it when you will say sort of existing and proposed and it's the same number which means that it's the what
was previously unpermitted and in the future I mean it's this it's fine for now but in the future we are going to start asking that when when something is not permitted we have a
another box so to speak that would say the previously not permitted this amount and so because for mitigation and you have more than enough mitigation and so that's why I'm not
getting so um so what I did was if you look at ex I guess we could just go to the uh 0 to 50 yes and basically where it says existing stone walls and steps 122 square feet it's on
I'm sorry the upper right and then proposed um it says 187 Square ft and then the change it says plus 65 right and with the little two dots and then I have a little note below that says after the fact approval of stone walls and
steps constructed so I was on the impression that that's what you were looking for yeah I think and you're talking like in the in the future if I happen to come back before the board another project just saying separate column so yeah and it you don't have to have existing and proposed it's just
going to say these are previously not permitted and how many square feet and then we know that that's something that isn't after the fact so it's something we've we talked about the other day in a meeting and I just think it would be
easier for us because you know proposed means it hasn't been done and this is done so that's the only reason so that's why I struggle with I struggled you know with
it because it's you you're thinking it's something you want to do so it's nothing it's not going to stop anything with this though just thought I'd mention it okay thank you anybody else
okay then I think we can go to a motion for an order now uh when would you like this order uh sooner the better next week that's fine if if you
know we don't have any at this point that we need to do so we'll get it done and I can I can zoom in for that correct yes if needed well yeah and you heard you know David said
he read it over there were no issues then great if there's anything that you'd like changed or you have a question about then that's your opportunity to do that than um so we can go to a motion please I move that we
continue 43 Morris Island Road to March 12 2025 for an order of conditions second okay Paul I Elise I Eric I Cheryl I and I say I so we'll we'll have that ready for you next week you'll receive
it uh Tuesday afternoon thank you thank you hopefully you're under your 24 minutes yeah we will I think thank you okay Katherine the next okay we have a notice of intent at 141 abami run map 12E parcel
23-20 for Amy and Anthony tutrone masty EP SE 10- 3718 Dock and stair reconstruction the applicant has requested a continuance to May 7 2025 I move that we continue 141 abami
run to May 7th 2025 second okay Paul hi I Eric I Cheryl I and I say I okay go ahead okay requests for certificate of compliance at 0 and 284 Kendrick road
map 14k Parcels 4 B3 and 7 for Tim Reese Mass D SE 10- 3275 elevation of an existing dwelling for FEMA compliance reconstruction of the detached garage and installation of
raised septic system partial cooc requested okay and you or Paul speaking to this at this point we need a better understanding I think of what the partial COC is and I see Cole baitman is
on oh okay so I think Cole can address hi Cole or who yeah would you like to speak to this um I'm well I'm Cole bman I'm project manager from tan Bond however I believe Bill Riley will be speaking on
behalf is is he present uh I am not not seeing him on no he is not present we could continue this uh I don't think we would need to
continue are there any specific questions from the Commissioners that I might be able to address or would you like me to just do a you know a briefing about the project we we put together what we thought was a pretty comprehensive uh certificate or partial certificate of compliance application
package here with some uh photos as well as um just brief descriptions of of what remains um but if there's anything I could uh provide further Clarity on I'd be happy to do so uh do you want to address that
Katherine uh yeah Cole if you could I guess list out exactly what the partial COC request is for and what items do remain sure I do not have a copy of Bill Riley's letter in front of me that would
be be probably the best of well then we can continue it that's fine we could continue it to next week and that would give you time to
organize what what is a part of this partial and and and what is left to be done be honest with you I'm not a big fan of partials no but I mean when they were when the when
the con when the when the order is written up I mean it's is it partial is it in stages I mean is it I don't even know how you can even do that um if you draw up a order of conditions would be like a
contract and without changing it and have all parties involved and US signature sure the agree um I don't even know I just I I don't this is the third partial now that I've seen Short period of time so is this being requested
because the home is being sold no I could provide a little bit of clarity here I just I didn't want to get into the specific details without bill um providing his commentary because it's it's more of a a a way to interpret the Amendments I think if the Commissioners
were to go out to the project right now they'd find it substantially in conformance with with the past orders of conditions however uh it it would leave the way that the the applicant is is is viewing this project is the way that the the order of conditions is currently written and uh uh ongoing conditions is
that it would leave the applicant um uh uh there could be a storm event that comes through and damages the dunes without a good means to repair that Dune under the the the way it's currently written so that that is really the main purpose is
it's to allow for the applicant to uh maintain the Dune which is currently thriving there's vegetation on it uh without um you know coming back to the commission with administrative requests uh but just to get it finalized in in an
approved order which which would later uh be um requested in the future so it's more of an administrative so you're requesting this certificate of compliance because they want to be able
to a maintain the Dune going forward if necessary he probably shouldn't speak Bill Riley is on now it looks like I please let hi Bill okay so uh I've been sort of missing an
action because I had yes I had the flu last week and spent a little time in the hospital so yes I heard apologize for not being uh uh but I'm all recovered well you look pretty good so I'm sorry you went through that it's
good to see you doing better all I can say is thank God I was vaccinated anyway so uh we have questions about what is in included in this partial and why a partial the I think
the let get the reason why it's a partial is that uh we have ongoing things we we're going to request an amendment to the existing order uh I thought i' already submitted
that but I learned a little while ago that I had not yet submitted it and we want to have uh so we want to make a minor Amendment to the existing order uh and then have a continuing condition regarding
U uh the maintenance of the property in the plantings so if you're going to do that anyway why would we even bother doing a partial well if you're I'm confused if you're applying for an amendment why try and get a certificate of
compliance at this point well we like to we like to move on from the the stuff that's all completed so so we know that that is finished and and we can look forward on the other aspects of the of the order let me get
my file just minute okay go through the chair I looking at it again I feel like yeah an amendment maybe an amendment request to revise the conditions they want to revise and then
a full COC that's to close it out with the amended conditions right yeah and we can do that then they then they you know get rid of the go on with the new one I I think exactly that's a better way to
go is at this point table this request and and file an amended for whatever you're wanting to amend and then once that's been completed then you can get get a full
certificate of compliance okay so what I'll do is uh I'll send over the letter request for the amendment uh later today or or first thing tomorrow okay that'd be perfect I apologize for being missing in combat here oh no that's okay you can't you
can't control when you get sick so I'm glad you're feeling better and and getting back into it so okay great thank you so at this point we have no action to take right or do we table or do we
withdraw the COC request yes I believe this I would recommend withdrawing this request because of the the fact that it was a partial request right and we would want a full request after the amendment so I think that they would request to withdraw this one and you would approve
the withdrawal and then we'd move on to the amendment get that completed and then do the full COC request sounds like does that sound good sounds like good business and Cole yeah that sounds fine okay that's what we'll do I move that we I move that
we withdraw approve the withdrawal of the partial cooc on zero and 284 Kendrick Road second Paul I Elise I Eric I Cheryl I and I say I thank you thank you thank you very much take care and we
have one more motion I move that we adjourn the meeting second Paul hi Elise hi Eric hi Cheryl hi and I say I 124 24 minutes
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