Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. This is a hearing of the CHAM Conservation Commission being held on January 28th, 2026 in accordance with the Massachusetts Wetlands Protection Act and the Town of Chadam Wetlands
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of a quorum. I will now ask each commissioner to indicate their presence. Vice chair Paul Johnson >> present. >> Janet Williams is not present. Elise Gordon is not present. Eric Hilbert >> present. >> Bob Delveio >> present. >> And I'm here. We've established we have
a quorum. If there's anyone who would like to make any announcements, comments, or future future agenda items for anything other than the properties on the agenda, please let me know now. Not seeing anybody here. Let me
get in. And I'm not seeing any hands raised. Before we begin the agenda, Paul, are there any announcements of any requests for continuances today? Good afternoon, Madam Chair and commissioners. Yes, there are two requests for continuances.
155-157 Bridge Street will be continued to February 11th, 2026 and 53 Little Beach Road will be continued to May 13th, 2026. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Welcome.
>> At this point, Paul Whiteitman, CHAM's conservation agent, will now lead us through the agenda. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. First on the agenda is a requested order of conditions for 196 Shaw Road. The applicant is John Swinsson, map 16E,
parcel 3, D, the EP number SC10 3754. The project is installation of a title 5 pump chamber, force main and generator with a within a buffer zone to a coastal bank and this was continued from October 22nd, 2025 and then again on January 14th, 2026.
>> Thank you. >> Good afternoon. David Clark on behalf of the Swensons. Um, the only question I had, uh, special conditions C7 through9 deal with mitigation plantings and monitoring. We're not proposing any. Um,
but, um, Bob did ask if we could put some plantings around the uh, generator, which we agreed to. So, if that constitutes mitigation, those conditions should stay in, but it's entirely up to you. >> Okay. And that's in section C.
>> Yep. I'm getting there. >> Seven through nine deal with >> Yeah. On going invasive management and you're not doing any of that, correct? >> I'll take that out. >> Um shall not when mitigation plants are
installed, mitigation plantings except otherwise described. So those go out. I >> guess that one could stay in because we are going to put some plantings around the generator. Okay. All right, I will remove
the couple and then nothing else. >> That's it. >> Okay. Do any commissioners go ahead Bob? >> Uh special condition uh 13 where where it identifies the plantings appropriate number of ballards and and native shrubs
will be placed around should be around the generators and pump controls. Correct. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. A little bit of a typo there. Says R1. >> And uh I just wanted to see if we could put um some ink berry uh evergreens
around those uh to kind of soften to try to screen the screen those uh items. Um so I was thinking of like seven ink berry shrubs. >> I think that's appropriate. That >> that's okay.
>> Okay. Thank you. Welcome. >> Okay, that's it. >> That's it. Thank you. >> Okay. Um I don't see anybody with any other concerns online. So I think we are ready for a motion.
>> I move that we close the hearing on 196 Shore Road and approve the order of conditions as modified. >> Second. >> Okay. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> Hi. Paul >> I. >> And I say I. >> All right. Next one, please. Paul.
>> Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. Next on the agenda is a request for a field change, and the address is 1557 Bridge Street. The applicants Eastward Companies, map 15B, parcel 1B, D number SC 10 3452.
The project is a demo of two existing dwellings in a pool, reconstruct the both dwellings, and a field change request is to change the orientation of the pools and reconfigure the patio area. Uh the applicants requested a continuence to February 11th.
>> Okay. If we could have a motion, please. >> I move that we continue 1557 Bridge Street to the meeting on February 11th, 2026. >> Second. >> Okay. Bob, >> I Eric. >> Hi. All >> I >> and I say I.
>> All right. And the next, please. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Next on the agenda is a request to amend an order conditions. This is a phase two uh 552 Shaw Road is the address. The applicant is Francisco
uh Skeon and Judith Gibbons. Map 16G, parcel 16T3, D number SC 10 3750. Uh the project is residential additions and mitigation plantings. Amendment is to include the after the-act tree cutting and vegetation management within
the coastal bank. As I said, it's a phase two. Good evening. For the record, RAID from Cape Islands Engineering and with me Katherine Higgins from Bartlett Tree Experts. Um, also, um, joining us online
is Michael Ford and John Barker, um, from the, um, design team and the attorney for for this project. Um, a brief um, history of this application um, last year. Um, the current owners purchased the property in June of 2025.
Um pretty soon after that they engaged with some architectural consultants to propose some improvements to the existing house and several other consultants were involved including ourselves as the engineers and surveyors
and um bartletry experts um to review the site. Um during the application for the notice of intent for the additions to the house, um the rest of the consulting team um acknowledged that prior ownership on the property has done
some um mismanagement of vegetation on the bank and within the buffer zones. We brought that up to the attention of the um conservation department. Um and we were upfront when we filed the original um notice of intent for this
application. It was a meeting with this commission and it was a permit that was asked of the applicant um to correct and mitigate for the past actions and the mismanagement of vegetation.
The original order condition included some landscaping planting management and in increases in footprint um um to the house and included some mitigation planting roughly 360 square feet of mitigation plantings.
This project that we're amending now we're enlarging the proposed mitigation and restoration. um pilot tree services went to the site and did a um account of what number of trees were damaged and the number of
invasives because in addition to the mismanagement of vegetation that um was happening on the property there was >> no >> you can go continue >> there was also um a lot of invasive plants that were recognized when the
survey was being done. Um, so the the restoration that we're doing is not just to restore and mitigate for the cutting that happened, but also to manage those invasive species that were encountered. Um, so the the project um is now being
amended to account for a couple of things. Um, we want to mitigate for the mismanagement of vegetation. We also want to reduce the width of the existing path to the beach. Now the the existing path is roughly averaging about
9 feet in width, but it varies from about 5 feet to about 14 ft in width currently. Um we want to keep it at that width while we do this management and this um vegetation um restoration plan because we need that width to get in and
out to the areas that are affected. Once we remove um all the um equipment that we're going to be um using on site um the path is going to be reduced in width to four feet and the edges to make it 4 feet is going to be planted with native
species. That additional planting is over a thousand square feet of native species. We're also reducing the amount of lawn that is in the 0 to 50 foot buffer zone by over 500 square ft. That reduction in
lawn is going to be replaced with native plantings. We're also removing two kind of hedges of vugosa rose um and a few massive shrubs that are um juice on the property and replacing those same areas
with um native plantings and that's over a thousand square feet. So in all we are improving the natural vegetation within the 0250 buffer and enhancing the n the vegetation within the coastal bank and I will just pass it over to Katherine to
um briefly explain more in detail um what what they found on site. Thank you. Good afternoon. Um I'm here on behalf of the applicant as Raul was describing to present a comprehensive ecological restoration plan for this coastal bank.
Um, the project is designed to remediate historic unauthorized pruning conducted by a previous homeowner, as Raul mentioned, and more broadly to restore and strengthen the native plant community across 61,000 square feet or just about 1.4 acres of the coastal bank
and associated buffer zones. As we detailed in our land management plan, the conditions across this area vary significantly. You have some portions of the bank that are supporting healthy native vegetation with minimal invasive pressure while others have been heavily
overtaken by invasive species. So our work is really focused primarily on those impacted areas with the most amount of invasive species. And that's approximately 30,000 square feet. Um and that's on that blown up um plan on our res mitigation plan. That's really that
area of the hatched areas that 30,000 square feet where the invasive plants are actively outco competing the native vegetation. So the goals of our project are to address the impacts of the historic unauthorized tree tree pruning to remove invasive and non-native plant species
and to restore the site where with native trees shrubs and herbaceous species to stabilize and really strengthen the plant community existing. So, as Ro mentioned, to inform this plan, we had two Bartlett arborists spend four full days on the bank conducting a detailed ecological
assessment. They completed a comprehensive tree inventory, documenting the species, size, location, and health of each tree while also mapping out areas of invasive plant concentration and areas where native plant vegetation remains intact. We got
down to like blueberry shrubs, like individual shrubs. Um so state listed invasive species there's 11 total that we identified. They include notweed, garlic, mustard, mugwart, Asiatic bit bittersweet, Norway maple, autumn olive,
sycamore maple, Japanese barberry, vine honeysuckle, shrub honeysuckle, and multifllora rose. There are also two existing species on the bank, privet and porcelain berry that are state listed as likely invasive. And then in contrast you have these intact native um areas
containing shrubs such as arrowwood viburnum, blueberry, bayberry, Carolina rose, berry berry with rod viburnum as well as ferns, golden rod and some native grasses. We also collected baseline soil samples and locations on the bank and our lab in North Carolina
tested the soil um and proposed when we're proposing soil testing over time to ensure that plantings are well matched to site conditions and have the best chance for long-term success. Um so turning to the inventory results, if you look at page three in our land
management plan, um that really summarizes our findings within jurisdiction. And if you look at that top left um pie diagram um there were 249 trees inventoried and 57 of those are native 71 were invasive
species and 21 were non-native species. And then if you dive into that dark green area of native species within that zone 91 are alive trees um in varying states of health but they're alive. 49 are dead trees with no evidence of
historic pruning. 17 are dead and do show signs of historic pruning. And I think that's important to point out that yes, there were 17 dead trees showing signs of historic pruning. And there's also 49 dead trees on the bank just because of the condition of the bank and
the age of the woodland. It is really those 17 dead native trees that our mitigation plan directly addresses. We conducted the same analysis. This is on page three of the land management plan. >> Yeah, it's the land management and it's
the little circle diagrams. >> Yeah. >> Keep going up >> a little farther there. Uh there you go. >> There you go. There it is. >> So then on the right hand side, we're showing uh the saplings that we
inventoried. And um out of the the saplings, 74 were native and 288 were invasive or non-native. So that really means that 79.6% of the saplings on this bank are non-native and invasive species, primarily Norway maple,
sycamore maple, Norway spruce, and white popppler. This is really concerning for the long term on this bank because over time these saplings will mature. They'll suppress native regeneration and create conditions that favor invasive monocultures like shrub honeysuckle and knotweed that are already here. If
nothing's done on this bank, invasive species will continue to out compete the native species and the result will be a further compromised habitat available for wildlife. So, the good news is that despite these pressures, there's still extraordinarily exceptional pockets of
native biodiversity present on this bank. Um, page four and five, I think it's the next two pages. I'm sorry. Um they show an area thriving with native ferns with red verb which you don't see that often uh in woodlands around here
and extensive stands of whitewood aster carpeting the ground. Um the whitewood aster I couldn't believe it when I saw it growing out there this summer. It's just literally carpeting areas of this bank. It was really awesome to see. Um so address to address the our our
approach is really just to protect that and expand those areas of really nice native um diversity. So to address the invasive species, we propose targeted management within the approximately 30,000 square feet shown on the mitigation plan and on the diagram on
page seven. Yep, right there. Um removal will be conducted through selective cut and treat methods performed manually and with limited use of small track equipment primarily from the top of the bank and the existing beach access path.
And those dark green areas are where the the invasive plants are basically 100% dominating the area. And that corresponds with our the mitigation um plan on our on the the area on our mitigation plan. Once invasives are
successfully managed, these areas will be restored with the native species on the mitigation plan. And then in addition to that, the land management plan also outlines woodland management activities to address the historic pruning that occurred. So that really
begins on page eight. Um, and on page nine, it details really get into certain specific conditions that we found on the bank of tree pruning and how we're going to propose to address them. So on page nine, you'll see we're talking about
previously flush cut to or close to flush cut to the ground. Um, primarily oaks. There's a couple cherries, but um so we're proposing we're proposing to continue managing them in that way cop by coping which promotes vigorous
regrowth and biomass. And then we continue on um page 10 there's there are yeah right there um conditions where it's primarily pitch pine and oak that have been topped and left like that um
high growing high. Uh the pitch pines are dead and so we're approaching that in two ways. We'd like to retain some of those as snags for wildlife. Um the size of this area in woodland management
practices. You you would leave about three to five dead pitch pines as snags. We'd cut them down to about 10 to 15 feet in height and allow them to decay in place. We would prioritize any trees that have visible cavities or crevices crevices for nesting. And then the
remaining uh dead top trees, which is about nine, um we would we're proposing to flush cut them to the ground and leave large sections of the cutwood in place on the ground to decay and decompose naturally. Um, regarding the
topped oaks, um, there's three cherries that were topped and about 19 oaks that were, um, topped. We would propose to flush cut them, and we detail that in in that, uh, on that page, flush cut them and allow them to regenerate.
In addition, there are three dead pitch pines near human activity. They're shown on our uh, mitigation plan in red on that top left um, plan. and they're in areas near human activity that pose sa a safety hazard. Um there's pictures of
those on page 11 in the land management plan also where really you can see where large limbs have already fallen onto the lawn. So we would like to just cut them down and we could also leave them in um the naturalized area, large chunks of of those uh the wood to decay there too.
There's also one mature white pine in severe decline um with no live canopy growth and there's active tarpentine beetle infestation. We are proposing to remove that and um to mitigate for that we're we're planting four tupelo trees.
Um so in summary really we approached the historic pruning practices by um maintaining and supporting healthy copus regrowth, retaining dead wood and snags for habitat, encouraging regeneration of native trees to grow back up and
replacing dead native trees through the planting of new trees. And as you can see on our mitigation plan, we're proposing to plant 54 trees, um, including the four tub below I mentioned, 15 eastern red cedar, eight service berry, 11 pitch pine, and 16
scrub oaks. Uh, the scrub oaks in particular that will be planted will be grown from acorns that we harvested last year on site. We harvested them in late summer, early fall, and they've they're there's some exceptional scrub oaks on this bank and they do really well. So,
we decided to harvest the acorns so that what we plant is sight specific using the local genotype on the bank and we're growing them out in preparation to plant them as shown on our plan. We're also planning to uh we're proposing to plant 200 native shrubs including black
chokeberry, New Jersey tea, sweet ferns, sheep laurel, northern bayberry, beach plum, and Carolina rose along with hundreds of native grasses and forbes. Beyond providing new opportunities for food, cover, and nesting habitat for pollinators, birds, and other wildlife,
the deep root systems of the grasses, in particular, all the native plants, but really the grasses in particular will significantly improve storm water infiltration on the site. And just to kind of close, this project is intentionally beyond just replacing trees. The invasive species pressure is
arguably the most um primary threat on this bank. And the goal of the project is to establish a stratified native plant community with trees, shrubs, and the urbaceous layer working together throughout that that entire 1.4 acres. The proposal takes a comprehensive
long-term approach to restoring the integrity of the bank and we believe it represents a responsible and effective path forward for this property. Thanks. And and something I would like to add, um we did um see the messages or
correspondence from abing um neighbors. Um there were some comments about whether the project um can remove existing fallen trees and leaning trees onto the beach. Um when we looked at those photographs that the neighbors um provided, um those fallen trees and
leaning trees are beyond the property bounds of this project. Um so we cannot um kind of encompass removing of trees or um leaning trees that are not on this property. But anything that is leaning or um already fallen within this
property within the the beachfront on this property um we can probably just remove them, leave them as snags on the u banks and buffer zones. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh commissioners, anything?
and then I will read the abuter emails. >> Um I just have a couple things. Uh this is quite an endeavor here. Um it's great. Uh why can't we just leave all the pines that are dead? That's stag snags there.
I mean they don't really hurt anything and you know they're great for birds and what if someone wants to make a new nest, you know? So >> yep, we could. There are some that are pretty degraded that are along that pathway that um down to the beach. So, I
would definitely would love to remove those in place, but um we're talking about three to five remaining snags. >> How many total are there? >> Um so, nine. So,
let's see. There's probably about 20 >> and then minus the ones on the path >> that they're they're concentrated along the path of so there's probably like eight along the path.
>> So you can well you can probably leave maybe an extra you can leave 15 >> I would think. I mean it doesn't doesn't really they don't really hurt anything. They don't block the sun and right >> what have you. And the um so the the other thing I have is there's a there's
a huge um compost and brush pile um on the side there. Um you know that's a good starting place for especially notweed when you leave that stuff for a long time. Is there any plan to remove that? It's going to be quite a job. >> I mean that's been going on for probably
30 years. What if we just um managed like included that in in the invasive plant management section? So if there was not, we >> maybe just take the curse off it, not necessarily excavate it right down to the bare ground, but >> and I'm sure there's critters and
chipmunks and stuff using that area. And also Yeah. So we talked about it and I actually was the one that said that's a that's a viable habitat as it is because it is really old, decaying. No, I agree with you. And there's no invasives popping out of it and
>> we can m we can take a look and if there was anything like notweed popping out, we would definitely grab it. >> Okay, thanks. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Anybody else? >> I got a few questions. Uh, hi Katrine. How are you? >> Good, thanks.
>> Um, uh, along the, uh, path down to the water, um, it's pretty eroded. I know you have some stairs that are going in, some steps that are going in. Are you going to be doing anything with that
area just to try to prevent the erosion? So, so I can I can take on that. So, because we're using the existing path to access all of these points that we're going to be working on, um those stairs are going to be completely demolished. So, we're going to be re replacing those
stairs, right? Um and the size well the width of the path is going to be reduced to four feet. So all the planting that we're going to be doing is going to be also accounting for um improving on that erosion that has happened. Now this path
we have looked at record drawings from early 1900s and apparently this path has been in existence for this long. So hopefully with this work that we are doing um and the planting that we're going to be um proposing along these edges, we're going to check off most of
that runoff that is currently just um channelized down the existing path. The replacement of the addraate steps um will also improve that condition and not kind of continue concentrating all the water in those locations.
Can you add more atgrade steps uh from time to time along the center portion of the path just to slow down the erosion just to slow down the water? So I I I get I get what you're um what you're suggesting. So it's like like on
farmlands that they do those intermediate steps to slow runoff. Um the middle section of this path um is fairly level enough but a couple of steps intermediate would kind of discourage water from rushing continues
to rush and provide like a somewhat little dam along the way. So we can we can include that the proposed mitigation that we increase by over 1500 square feet will more than compensate the requirement of three times um one or two of those additional steps. We we could
add a couple more intermediate steps. >> Okay. Thank you. Um also uh uh the natives are situated uh more so down below. Correct. Where the where the human activity hasn't uh really occurred. >> Correct.
>> Unfortunately, uh you probably have a lot of invasives because of the human activity up top towards the top of the bank. >> That's where they're focused. Yep. Uh, unfortunately it it's uh it it's it's a shame what was done, but um to rectify
it. I think it's a great plan and I I I applaud what you're doing here uh for the for the environment uh as well and for the wildlife too. Um, uh, as far as the view goes from the
from the building, uh, are you going to be planting more of the smaller plants, uh, within the view corridor? >> Correct. >> And more of more of the trees on the sides. Is that the story? >> And then farther down on the bank,
>> rather down. So that so as they as they would grow, no one's going to hopefully cut them down again. >> Correct. Well, we'll put something saying that they can't. >> Mhm. Right. >> Without approve coming back to us. >> Yeah.
Um I think that's I think that's all I had now. I think it's a great project. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Right. I have two abutter letters that I have emails that I have to read in. My wife and I are the owners of an abuing lot at 448 Old Harbor Road. I'm also the
managing trustee of the Old Harbor Homeowners Association comprised of four lots on shared driveway and beach at 444, 446, 448, and 450 Old Harbor Road north of the proposed
project. We extend a warm welcome to the new neighbors and express our support for their project with the request that it also address the removal of fallen and nearly downed dead trees currently laying on or overhanging the beach within the project area. Please see the
attached photo for reference. Similar to the beaches on our property and the associations, we and our neighbors use the shoreline below the high water mark for activities like boating, fishing, and accessing the fish pier. However,
the downed trees and those near fallen now obstruct this access or pose a safety risk of falling onto people or washing into the harbor. While leaving the stumps might help preserve the bank, it would be best to remove the rest of the downed and overhanged trees to
ensure the safety and enjoyment of everyone. Thank you, Michael J. Riley. And then um the second one is I am in butter at 594 Shore Road to the north of the subject property and I'm
writing in support of the restoration/mmitigation proposal prepared by Bartlett tree. That said, the proposal does not specifically mention the removal of the trees that have fallen onto the beach or those that are dead or dying and leaning onto the
over the beach. I ask that consideration be given to requiring removal of these trees in the project area both for the safety of those walking the beach and for keeping fallen tree limbs from getting into an Lydia Cove and becoming
a hazard to nav navigation. And that's from George Shane at 594 Shore Road. So, and I believe you've already pretty much addressed those concerns. So, I just wanted to put those into the record. Um,
at this point, does anybody have anything else or do you have anything else you want to say? >> Yeah. Could you uh just to follow up on the two letters? Can you explain about the fallen trees again? >> So, yes. Um, the land if you could bring
back up the site plan. >> Yeah. >> You looking for the picture? It's the >> first to better I think >> the property line along the the toe of
the bank there is odd and and those trees fall off out of the property just based on the property line >> but did the trees originate from the property? >> No. So >> well then it's not your responsibility then >> guys stay at the mic. Unfortunately there is a pointer. So yeah, when when
you see where the existing path reaches the the edge of the of the beach, >> um the property only has about 30 feet of of beach at that point before he hits the property line. >> Um and the pictures from the abotterers
show a couple of um one fallen tree completely on the beach which does block um pedestrian access. Um, and it's about some 80 feet north of the existing path. So, it's beyond the the applicant's property. And there's another one
leaning that is somewhere midway between that that also happens to be just outside the property. But if there's any others, because we did see in our our own photograph um within 10 ft of the the path entering the the beach, there
is another small shrub that's also completely dead. and on the beach. That one is on the subject properties um beach area. So, that one can definitely be removed from the beach. Um and any other one that is slightly to the south where there is a lot of uh a little more um beach frontage on this property,
those can also be removed. Um but those that are beyond our property, our um clients um ownership, um we cannot agree to invading that property to remove them. >> Oh, thank you. But if you just adopt a condition that says those that are
within the beach frontage to be removed, then the applicant can absolutely um accept that. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Um anybody have anything else?
Okay. I think we can do a motion to send this to an amended order. Is is there a particular meeting that you would like this ordered? >> The next available meeting will be fine with us. >> Okay, that's February 11th.
So, um, if we have a motion to go to do an AOC, >> I move that we continue 552 Shore Road to an amended order of conditions for the meeting on February 11th, 2026.
Second. >> All right. Bob >> I, >> Eric, >> I, >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right. Then next, please, Paul. >> Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. Next on the
agenda is a submitted request for a determination of applicability. The address is 650 Orleans Road. The applicants MetaM Hutchings Trust map 12J parcel 15-7R-261.
Project is installation of a title 5 subservice sewage disposal system including decommissioning of old cesspool is a new application. >> Good afternoon. Uh David Clark, Clark Engineering. So as stated uh this is uh
an upgrade of cess poolools to a uh title five system that's the system itself is in compliance with title 5 and town of cadams board of health regulations. um the portions of the project that are within your jurisdiction. Uh the
existing cess poolools have to be pumped and filled and then we have to do some trenching around the water side of the house to redirect all that piping to a pump chamber uh which will then uh pump up to the leech field. Uh no trees
within your jurisdiction have to come out. Um I think where the the septic tank and the pump chamber are going or I think it's all English ivy in there. Um so certainly um when they go to restore the area everything will be lomemed and
seated with a native fescue mix. So uh and uh that's the extent of the project. >> Great. Thank you. All right. Any commissioners? Any questions, comments? >> Yeah, I just that was that was definitely a throwback going there. That was stomping ground back in the day, you
know. >> They've been on the property for over 70 years. >> I know. And she's still going now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Nice. >> Um, no comments, questions. >> Do we know what negative it is?
>> Okay. >> I move that we approve the request for determination of applicability with a negative -2 determination for 650 Orleans Road. >> Second. >> Bob. I >> Eric. >> Hi, >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. Paul, the next please. Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. Next on the agenda is a notice of intent application. The address is 98 Oyster upon Furlong Road, Steven A and H. Haley
G. Nadas map 13E parcel 29-11A de P number SE 103682 construction of a beach access catwalk. This project was continued from excuse me May 8th in the year of our Lord 2024.
>> Exactly. So given the amount of time could you kind of go over it all again please? >> Yes I'm happy to do that. I'm Bob Perry, Cape Cut Engineering. Been working at 98 Oistondon Furlong since as Paul
referenced um May 2024. Um it's a proposed catwalk 14t long with a aluminum ladder that would then sort of a ship's ladder that would go down to the edge of the marsh. That's another nine feet. Um there were
a number of things going on at the property that the applicants were uh busy with and uh people being busy and the zoning process uh I think just being over busy uh it's taken uh till uh early
2026 to get to the zoning board and there were there were things that the applicant was dealing with and postponed a aggressive uh approach to this uh permit process. So in in late May, I have the dates in the
letter that we provided to you. May 22nd 24, we went to the shellfish committee. Shellfish committee requested a revision to shorten the facility so that it wouldn't interfere with their dragging their hardware across the sand flat. So,
we made that revision and we were um we agreed and wanted to return to Shellfish when that revision was made, but in the interim we went to the South Coast Harbor Planning Committee for their review. They discussed it and um I think
the ship's ladder is, you know, close to what they might have been focusing on. Um we then returned to the shellfish committee in um o uh December of 24 when
we presented the revision to them. So then a period of inactivity occurred and uh Mr. Lichfield, Attorney Lichfield took this application to the zoning board of appeals early this month and the review concluded with a special
permit grant. And I if I put this project very simply, there was an existing access at the bottom of the stairs. Over the years, the marsh was trampled. There was a wooden kind of a rudimentary wood moi
mat rolled out. And in discussing this activity with the owners and their understanding of the predecessor in title activities, um there was a routine traversing of the marsh. Um the applicants
keep a moing. They have a small pram, very lightweight. I've actually put it in the water there myself. And rather than have all the users drag the pram and their foot traffic through
the marsh, their preference was to see about a practical walkway that's defined in the zoning laws in Chadam as a catwalk >> because it doesn't extend se of the high tide line. So
there's a railing on one side that provides a safe platform 3 ft wide 4t above the marsh and the pram can simply be pulled alongside both ways. It's certainly the case that people will
be standing there at the bottom of that little bulkhead. There's a marine wall there. And they'll lift the pram back up. they won't be leaving it on the marsh. So the essence of the proposal is the performance standards relating to
uh protection of salt marsh were elevated 4t above the marsh at a maximum uh uh height of the ground. So the clearance gets a little better as you go outward and it is intended to preserve
the marsh from the traffic. It's seasonal and like many seasonal docks that are from a time past in Chadam, um the posts would be fitted to uh stubs that would be in the ground where the new posts
each year would simply be inserted and pinned. It's braced so it can't fall down. So, it's a sturdy uh but small minimalsized walkway to get to the sand flat.
um designed exactly like seasonal peers that I've dealt with in Pleasant Bay for decades now. It's just very small. Um so we've provided the details and since you've seen it, we had that one
revision. So that's our summary if that's any help. So thank you. >> It is. Thank you. Um, just an FYI, uh, and I know you know a lot of what delayed this was you hadn't applied to ZBA and hence why we
now won't hear a property until there is an application with ZBA. And we are also going to start to deal with continuences and the number of them and find a a cap on the number because of
properties like this. I agree with you and I >> have gone on forever >> and although I intended to do this at the end, let me extend my personal uh and professional thanks to your staff, Crystal Keon, for >> Yes, she's wonderful.
>> Not just her willingness to accommodate our in, you know, continual continuences, but her ability to remind us, and I appreciate it. >> Yes, we all appreciate her. Okay. Um,
is there a reason that I'm I'm seeing somebody on a screen and I'm not sure why. Is there anybody online who would like to speak? If so, please raise your hand.
>> You see who's who is that? >> He's just observing. >> I know, but he's not supposed to have the camera on. So >> you go. >> Okay, that's done. >> Okay. Okay, good. All right. Um,
anybody have anything else that they >> Yeah, I just wanted to say in support of this, um, I worked for this family for many, many years and it is used and they've had to put boards across the best they could to to get there. So to
get to, you know, to launch their little boat out and um this is a big improvement and I think it's at least at least a little sunlight underneath rather than boards on the ground. There's another path that I don't think it's ever used much. They have another
access. Uh >> that's 100. Uh the other >> Well, the family owns both properties. >> Um so I don't ne I never see that one used. Is what's your plan on that one? Just a >> Well, I I presently it's shared. This is to be shared. >> Oh, okay.
>> They're they're sensitive to your interests and there's one that is for their time at this moment enough. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? Bob, do you have anything? I >> got a couple of things, Bob, if you
don't mind. >> Not at all. I'm here for you. >> Okay. Uh are you going to be taking before and after pictures? Well, that's certainly if it's required. Absolutely. Yes. Uh right now you have nothing there. When it goes up for the
first time, we can document that. Sure. Um and you say the marsh has a a little bit of an existing path through it. Is there any way that could be planted? Well, the MOI mat uh wooden slat item is
still in place. when I staked this out for the ZBA and I knew those stakes would hopefully persist for your this review that I noticed that the the thing is still there. Um I don't think it's going to need replanting. It's a Spartina mix of of it's mostly alterna.
There's a lot of groundwater breaking out and and it's it would recover quickly if you take that off of it that you see low marsh grow in quite well >> and that will be taking off taken off once uh this is put in. Yeah. Uh the sleeves that you have in
the in in the ground, uh will those be kept uh during the offse? >> I think you're raising a good point. I think it's very practical to do that. Um keep things from collecting in them. It just closes it as a box. It's going to
be at grade and I don't think there's an objection to capping those at all. >> Okay. Well, that's all I had. Thank you. >> Okay. Paul, do you have anything else? >> Nope. >> Okay. Um, I think we can go to an order.
How soon do you need this? >> It's You're busy and we're not going to build it this week or in February from what I can tell. So, whatever works for you on schedule is fine. >> Uh, why don't we do it for the 25th
of February? >> That's fine. >> Okay. Um, so if we could have a motion for that, please. >> I move that we continue 98 Oyster Point Pond Furlong to the meeting on February 25th, 2026 for an order of conditions. >> Second.
>> Bob, >> I >> Eric. >> I >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> Thank you. >> Thank you all for your time and consideration. >> All right, Paul. The next please. >> Uh, next on the agenda is uh 53. Uh,
excuse me. This is a notice of intent. Continued one. 53 Little Beach Road, Monoy Rips LLC. Map 16A, parcel H50, DP number IC 103747. Project was demolish existing dwelling and reconstruct new dwelling within land
subject to coastal storm floorage. It was continued from July 9th, 2025, January 14th, 2026. And the applicants requested a continuence to May 7th, 2026. >> Excuse me, May 13th. I apologize. >> Yes. We'll have to be May 13th. May 13th, right?
>> Um I just have a question. They withdrew from ZBA. >> Yes. >> La uh last week I think. >> Correct. >> Um and I from what I understand they have to come back with a whole new plan. >> I >> so >> don't know what took place there only
that they decided to withdraw based on the feedback they got from the ZBA. Um >> and the ZBA felt that it would be an all new plan. So my only concern is that we're just continued. So hopefully
I don't know when they're seeing CBA again. I don't think that was established. So I would say that maybe if they uh May 13th comes and they're not haven't been heard by ZBA or whatever the
circumstance that maybe we also recommend that they withdraw. >> Good. Um, having said that, we can go straight to a motion. >> I move that we continue 53 Little Beach Road to the meeting on May 13th, 2026.
>> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> I. >> Paul. >> I. >> And I say I. >> Okay. The next, please, Paul. >> Um, I'll read these two together. Please. >> Okay. Um, next on the agenda is a notice
of intent for 61 Olympic Lane. Um, the applicant is uh 61 Olympics Lane LLC map 16C parcel 36-14 DP number IC 103758. Project is replace old hardscape, add stepping stones, remove some invasive
plants, plant native species, and renovate uh weedy areas with fine fescue. 63 elephants ellipt way is Ellen Downing Gold Ellen Downing Gold Living Trust. Map 16 C parcel 36-4 SC 10 3759
new plantings and hardscape for a single family home within the buffer zone to a salt marsh and within a flood zone. This was continued from February 14th. Both were from February 14th, 2026. >> Thank you, Paul. >> Welcome. >> Um Bob Perry again, Cape Cut
Engineering. I'm beginning to just take a little bit more of a front and center role. Sophia Pilling of Sweet Fern Gardening, Sean Ferrell, Shoeacher, uh, landscaping design, and they've done
this project. But because we've run into some technical issues, um, there was a few questions at the last meeting, and I I just want to recap my understanding of that. Um the
essence of this project is uh to try to not formalize but to organize and uh clean up that area. Uh there were about three or four um issues that came up. The first thing I want to say is that
um through discussions I think with Paul early on that Sophia had their efforts to coordinate with me to guide them through the process because there you don't see u sweet fern before you that often and maybe you do with with the
shoe marker group but um there was a series a set of areas down here uh mostly on 63 that had a lot of crushed shells and buried slates. And when the plan was presented to you, the mitigation
calculation was based upon the proposal of individual stepping stones as if there had never been any stepping stones there. They just weren't quantified for purposes of giving you
the existing site coverage because it was just we thought they thought it would just be understood that it was really not quantifiable. It it could have but it would have been a very stylized calculation for something that was syrupy and very unckempt. So the
mitigation component would be generous because they weren't deducting. So the site coverage as proposed as a net change would be lower if they counted those. So I wanted to mention that. Uh but the the thing I addressed
were several. Um we've revised the plan. We've taken uh area off the proposed patio. It was uh 133 square feet. It is now proposed at 159. But it's a completely different
design than the patio that's there, which is shoulderto-shoulder, edgetoedge slate on a sand base. Stepping stones were reduced by uh 10 or 15.
>> Half in some areas when you're looking down. >> You have to speak into the mic and identify yourself. >> Yeah, almost in half. If you look on to the right of the screen in that area there, we cut that number about in half. So the issue about mitigation again uh
comes to the four because the number they gave me uh for a stepping stone is 3.75 square f feet. But in talking with Sean when they're finally installed they're going to be between two and a half and 3.75. But we
generously conservatively simply use 3.75 to calculate for mitigation. So there's another rounding up that benefits conservation interests. So to describe the site,
very dense, very anacronistic. You don't build places like this on the water anymore and they're very, you know, old 1890 cottages. It's just unbelievably tight and close. 63 particularly has a discrete pathway that they get to the
house via >> a pathway along the eastern border which has developed um wearing ground areas within the pathway. And the stepping stones were proposed to reduce the amount of footwear on the
ground and allow grass to grow where it can grow and a foot to go down on the stepping stone where it would go down. and that was the intent. Um, so without going into tons of detail, we did have a photograph on page two that
shows the worn path. And then I mentioned the project purpose was was intended to provide an improved natural salt tolerant ground cover. Yeah. in an area where there was both existing grass but another location
where there was just scattered aggregates of shells and and you know in a velocity event. It's still an AE zone, but it's that stuff would just go flying and it it does scatter every time you have a flood. And it was intended to
provide protective non-boyant stepping stones instead of any kind of a boardwalk system that would prevent wearing down of the pathways and subsequent erosion through repetitive passage through those narrow aisles. And then the question came up about
stepping stones and impermeable nature of them. And in that meeting we had a couple weeks ago, the question came to me about, well, how much is a stepping stone going to contribute to an impermeable condition? And I would have
to say that in a rainstorm, you're going to see water land on that stepping stone. It's going to flow out to the perimeter. It's going to soak into the ground. Yes, it contributes to impermeability, but a rainstorm is not a harmful effect here. It's flat.
It's the coastal flood that we're addressing. And in short order, a stepping stone will allow seepage through the mineral soil below it. But in a coastal flood, it's almost incalculable that everything
becomes saturated as soon as you get six inches of water, as in this case, six feet of water. The stepping stones don't matter. But the good news is they don't float and they are very low profile. So they do not direct water and they
presumably in an AE zone will not move. So the balance was that the stepping stones improve the ground condition against erosive forces. It improves the interest for storm
damage prevention and flood control and sedimentation control. And that is all you can say about it. It's a plus from an environmental protection and support of wetland interests. Then we turn to the patio and
there was a I think a fair discussion about the increase of the surface area by 26 square feet. Now it's less I think it was 36 to 40 before and I believe we made the comment that well you know we could improve the permeability of this
and maybe it's a wash. Um and so I asked Sean he who actually mentioned his creation of a aggregate base for a driveway that he did in Province Town. He sent me the detail. We
put it on the plan and then I tried to do some um approximations for calculating something that's random and not fully predictable like the spaces between these stepping stones on the patio. So instead of having rectangular
edgetoedge slates with I think a high degree of impermeability, the proposed patio while it's rectangular has uh one and a half to two inch gaps between the
uh tumbled slates and those will will have uh porous aggregate in them. But even better below it on the right right hand side lower side of the page we have the aggregate base which is highly
permeable. So when you have this flood condition water will flow rapidly underneath the patio and continue to infiltrate. So the calculation we made of 8% to 10% gaps in
the patio surface is a for a 26 foot increase is about a 50% give back. But it's actually much bigger than that because we have a sub structure in the patio that pretty much
makes the entire patio permeable. And so we felt that for a comfortable sitting area on a very small site that two-foot bumpout that goes toward the east away from the salt marsh would be acceptable because the
permeability of the patio has been expanded uh tremendously. So, that's what I was asked to speak to and um I think I've covered it and I hope didn't bore you too much, but I appreciate you giving us a chance to
defend the project. Thanks. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh any commissioners need >> Yeah. Um, you know, every property every property is different and this this little property is
I I personally don't have a problem with stepping stones or little enlargement of the patio. The the property really isn't intiguous with anything but a seaw wall and asphalt um ramp on the other side. Um,
so it's a small little property and it's all sand and I'm sure it'll drain. Um, I just I was hoping that the patio wouldn't wouldn't be uh rough myself, but
um but I I I don't have a problem with this project. Thanks, >> Bob. Yeah, I I'm uh I'm sold on the uh patio uh uh installation the way the way you
describe it um with the with the poor space below and with the high infiltration rate that the stone will will give it. Yeah. So, I don't have a problem with the patio at all. Um and I uh
uh like Eric, I I uh agree with him on the stepping stones. I don't think it's an issue. I mean, I think um you know, it's not like they're going into the ground. They're just laying on the surface. So, that's my feeling on it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Paul. Do you have anything?
>> I just appreciate the work you did in trying to revise that. You did the best you could and looks good to me. >> I just have a couple things. the other patio where it says replace existing patio. Is that going to be done
in the same manner? >> Exactly. >> You want to do it that way? We didn't consider it because we weren't changing it. >> Yeah. I just wanted to know. >> Yeah, I would absolutely do it in the same manner for the same sensitivities that we're trying to address with the permeable base. >> Great. And
we it was it did come up last time about the stepping stones and the joints for the stones. I had down a quarter inch or is it 3/8 or >> the joints between the patio stones
themselves? >> The tumble the stepping stones that I think it was the pathways. We were talking about the, you know, how much space would be between them and and they um it was requested by somebody that um
the size of the stepping stones be decreased. >> Sure. at at this point. Um, if you look to the far right, the way that they're spaced out, it's almost kind of in every other step, >> there's a footfall on a stepping stone >> at tighter obviously in the areas
between 61 and the garage, which is the main >> way back there. That would they're spaced about uh 21 in from the center of one to the next. So you end up with an irregular gap based on the nature of the stone, but you end up with several
inches of space. >> We'll just add it into the f. We want to add it into the findings. This is why I'm asking >> Oh, did you scroll down to get to the bottom of that page? >> Sure. I see if it's on there. >> Right. And then in the detail as far as the patios themselves, >> I saw the patio to the right. Um,
there's a there's a little speck on that patio surface and the subbase. >> You're talking about leaving an inch and a half to two inches between the patt. >> I got that. I was just addressing the other part which >> someone go the other way. There we are.
There it is. You've got the specs of the stone sizes and >> but that's for the patio. >> That's the patio. What were you getting at? I'm sorry. >> The stepping stones. >> Oh, I think they're just >> much larger in in >> Yeah. and and somebody last time and I can't remember who asked that the um
size of the stepping stones maybe be decreased. So I was asking if that was happening. >> Sure. As Bob mentioned earlier, we're using this average >> okay >> 3.75 square feet which is about 18 in by 30 in as sort of an average. Let's
consider that the largest stone that would go down. In reality, we're buying a reg a regular material. So, >> okay. >> They'll be anywhere from >> And what is the material? >> It's blue stone. >> Okay. It is. Okay. I just wanted to make sure still. >> Yep.
>> All right. Um I think we can send this to an order. Both of these. Um I'm just trying to evaluate How about we already have two for I think we could
do the 11th February if you really wanted it or else one and one the 11th and 25th or two on the 25th >> if it's good if you want to do the first meeting 11th >> Sure 11th >> okay
um so both of them right >> yes Please. >> Okay. If we have a motion for February 11th, >> I move that we continue 61 and 63 LFM its lane to the meeting on February 11th, 2026 for an order of conditions.
>> Second, >> Bob. >> Hi, >> Eric. >> Hi, >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank >> Okay, Paul. The next please. Uh, next on the agenda, Madam Chair, is uh a notice
of intent for 14 Main Street, Chattam Beach Club at Tennis Club is the applicant. Map 16B, parcel 73, D number SC 10 3757. Remove and replace retaining walls within the buffer zone. Replace
retaining walls in a boardwalk within a coastal dune. This was continued from January 14th, 2026. Good afternoon. David Clark again on Clark Engineering on behalf of the club. Uh the way we left this last time with
the um we were waiting for a comment letter from Natural Heritage. Uh you've received that and uh and they recognize that uh portion of this property is within uh habitat of uh endangered bird
species. Um, and so they don't have a problem with the project so long as their conditions are incorporated into your order of conditions. And basically, I think that's just a uh a timeline uh where they don't want any activity out on the
beach itself. Um, I think April 1st through uh what was the exact time? Um, >> yeah, August 31st. Um, and they specifically say that's to um um see of
the existing reventment and uh basically having to do with the boardwalk installation. Um, so uh we're we're fine with those additional conditions. Um there is uh an issue without with one of
uh it's not an outstanding order at this point because the commission did issue a certificate of compliance but that was lost and was never recorded and we're asking for a replacement and Bradford did an inspection and I believe he's
going to report or Paul's going to report >> that the uh um the boardwalk uh as it is today uh doesn't match the uh permitting plan from I think from 1989.
Um it uh is at grade. It's not an elevated boardwalk and uh it was conditioned that it it was seasonal to be removed every year. And I think I stated at the last meeting that uh that that was the case
that it was only one or two instance in instances and looking at the Google Earth images that uh it wasn't there during the winter time. Um so we would be happy to add additional conditions to this application uh regarding uh the
boardwalk uh being removed. Uh and also uh Janet had brought it up and and and Bradford uh also noticed it too about the uh the old uh snow fence out there. >> Uh all those posts uh need to be removed
and any remnants of the the wooden slats too. Um given natural heritages timeline um when that boardwalk goes in and out every year has to be
obviously before April 1st is is there uh um starting date of no activity out there. Um and certainly anytime after August 31st because the club usually closes Labor Day weekend anyways except
for special events. Um so anytime in the fall um okay would be appropriate for its removal. >> You just made a plan David or >> pardon me >> you have a plan or >> I don't think we got anything new. No
this time although which brings me to you were going to take the vernal pool off the plan. So we do need a new plan. Well, we we show it as probable because because your regulations state that it's presumed to be a a vernal pool until
evidence is presented. So, >> and then we had said that the debris should come out >> which I think included the snow fence post. >> Um, >> looking to see of course the walkway seasonal. Um,
anybody have anything else? Any questions, comments? >> Uh, no. You brought up the snow fence, which is good out in the outer beach. >> Bob, >> uh, yeah, there's a we walk down there
and, uh, to the e east end of the deck on the, um, on the building, there's a there's an area that's really worn away by the walkway. Do you know what I'm talking about, David? >> Uh, on the upper level. Yeah. >> Yeah. There's a patch of sand there.
That that's been there for a long long time. Um >> Yeah. What? Why? Why is it bare? Why? >> I have no idea. Um >> did you take a picture of that? No. >> Um >> I do have a picture. I don't know if it was submitted cuz >> All right.
>> Maybe it's a sandbox for the kids when they come or >> shoes. Yeah, I'll skip it. >> Because they can't use the beach. I don't think it was included in what we have. >> No, I I saw it when I went out there, Brad. >> Yeah, unless
>> looks very old. >> Yeah, the gutter pipe there is getting exposed. >> Yeah, >> I'm just wondering whether they could plant that area. Um, >> it looks like it's it the soil has been eroded from the walkway itself. So
there's like a dip down. Um, so I'm thinking there's some some kind of erosion going off off this water coming off the sidewalk and down into that area. I know it's a minor thing, but
>> Well, they already had said they'd plant native grasses, >> so maybe would that work in that spot? Yeah. I mean, if uh >> um I I I now that you
um made your comments, I I don't think it's the same area that I have in my mind as being a bare spot. Um there's a there's a bare spot um at the top of that slope um almost adjacent to the reetment, but
that's about 100 square feet. That's just all sand. >> Yes, that's right. It's right off the building. >> Yeah. >> But there's no walkway. It's just lawn and then >> then there's a patch of sand. Yeah. Um >> Well, if I mean, if it's not in the
original, I mean, if this is not part of the discussion, I don't you know. >> Well, maybe we can. >> It does have a walkway. Has a cement walkway. >> So, it's Yeah, it's off of that.
Yeah, there. So, it's east of >> Yes. Yeah. Well, it's right right below. >> No, >> that's been there since I can that's been there a long time. >> Like that patch of sand. Yeah, >> they do have a landscape crew uh lined
up to do the the work on the the little short wall out by the revetment. Um um I can ask them if they could put some >> something >> uh beach grass plugs in there. That's probably the most appropriate thing. >> They'll need a little fill because the
pipe is exposed going through there from the gutter that's running to maybe a drywall or something. I don't know. >> Maybe add some top soil and some beach grass or some sand and some beach grass. Um, and I just wanted to ask who who
would be the the main contact person for uh the issues that we've raised with the beach which the uh snow the the sand fence you know all the fence that's out there and everything else and is there anybody in charge uh over there that
>> yeah on the notice intent um Noah Flechman is is the um the contact person for >> corporations so to speak. Uh >> so he he would he would be he would be the person that is responsible for all the fencing and all that stuff out
there. >> The designated representative of the club. >> Yeah. >> I don't know maybe even if you just mention that uh you know it's it's imperative that um you know the areas out there you know uh don't lose focus.
You know, >> I when uh when Bradford emailed me yesterday um regarding or reminding me of the the snow fence, I sent an email off to Nor saying it's it's really a club safety issue. >> Yes.
>> Because uh it's one thing that when it's exposed, but when it's a couple inches below, that's when it's a danger. >> It's a danger to wildlife, too, you know. So, anyway, thank you. That's all I have. >> Any anything else?
Then I think we can go to a order. Let's let's do it for the Does the 25th work or do you need it? Really? >> We're up against that April 1st. Um >> All right. >> For the for the hand work for those for that little bit of work out by the
revetment. That's the only issue. >> All right. We'll get it done the 11th. I move that we continue 14 Main Street to the meeting on February 11th, 2026 for an order of conditions. >> Second. >> Uh Bob
>> I, >> Eric, >> I. >> Paul, >> I >> and I say I. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> All right, Paul, the next please. >> We're getting there. Next on the agenda, Madam Madam Chair, is 67 Wilky Way.
Wilky Way 67 nominee Trust is the owner. Map 17D, parcel F13D number SE10 3762, construction of a swimming pool, patio, porch, step extension with a within a buffer zone of a coastal bank. This is a new application.
That what you wanted up, Dave? >> Yep, that'll work. Thank you. Uh David Clark, Clark Engineering on behalf of the trust. Uh so this is a proposed pool and patio within the 50 to 100 foot buffer to uh coastal bank uh which is
basically a rock revetment. Um the pool and patio was proposed within existing lawn area that was part of the permitted redevelopment of this property almost 20 years ago now. I think feels like 20 years. Um it's an outstanding
order for work on this property. None of that work was ever done and later on in the agenda is a request to uh issue a a certificate of compliance for that work. Um but uh as far as mitigation uh with the
new patio, they don't need um the sunken patio that's that's close to the 50oot no disturb zone line. Uh that's going to be removed. um additional mitigation required for the 747
ft increase in the 5100. Uh all that mitigation is shown on the plan uh prepared by um executive landscaping. >> Thank you. Um and uh Kyle's I don't know
if Kyle's online or not. um but uh from executive but uh I think everything on that plan is pretty straightforward um they're uh 100% natives uh in filling in that area of the southeast corner of the property
um with lawn removal and uh it does not require any zoning relief. uh complies with setbacks from both uh the flood plane and uh the property line. So uh as far as zoning is concerned um all they need to get is a
building permit. Um and the reason why it's uh positioned in that location um it's really the only area on the property where the sitting at the pool side you can see the water on the north side. We have the parking
area and turning area into the into the garage. Uh we can't move it any further back from the bank because the that's where the leech field is for the septic and we're right at the 20 foot setback minimum from that leech field.
>> Anybody want to start? >> Go ahead. Um, I I don't have a pro. The only problem I have is just the placement of the mitigation. Um, >> I'm not a big fan of, you know, when you
use a mitigation to put it off to the side like that. I I, you know, I just think the mitigation should be along the uh, you know, the top of bank uh, north to south more than stuck over there. It
looks more like a planting bed between the neighbors and by the pool than really than a mitigation project, you know, not just just not a big fan of that. Anybody else? Um,
I have to say I do agree with Eric on that. Um, I do like to see it a little more spread out and kind of I get that they want to be able to see the water, but >> you can use smaller plants.
>> Oh, you said that. >> Well, I mean, there's no tree replacements, right? Just just mitigation. They're all small anyway. They're like what? When they put them in, they're like one gallon pots. takes 10 years to you. I don't think
>> I I think um part of the design process was they they followed the previous mitigation plan that was approved by the commission. Um one thing to note um that uh second reason um
for the location is the improve the corridor along that side of the property to the west of of this property there. Their westerly abutter on Wilky Wilky Way is the Chadam Conservation Foundation and there's an isolated wetland on that property. So I think the
idea is it was to to build up a wildlife corridor on one or on one side. Um >> yeah, but it's just a path, right? I mean next to it just a isn't it just a neighborhood path that goes to a little >> sitting area that's sand? I mean it
doesn't really >> not show that here. Is it? It it's not really bordering anything. >> Well, it it provides a vegetated cover from the revetment down the property line towards that
wetland that's in the back. I I don't think increasing the buffer to a rock revetment helps wildlife in any way. And that there's no obligate species using that area. >> That's true. Um, you know, if it was a a natural bank, you might have some
obligate species in there, but it's it's a rock reignment. >> Yeah, that's true. I mean, it is it's just a rock reignment. So, I I'm I'm open to it. >> Anybody anything else?
>> Couple things. Um how about the foundation plants along the building uh between the 50 and 100 David? >> Um they're not proposing any uh in that uh part of the project is add one more
step or or I think it's two steps uh to the uh um steps coming off the patio or the the front porches or the wateride porches. So there's there's no foundation plantings along there. It goes right to lawn.
So, uh, >> even even we even where the existing patio is and off to the souththeast. >> Oh, so for the one that that's being removed, they'll fill that with uh uh top soil and seed it with
>> There's another one though. It says existing patio. And then >> the square one is staying. >> Yes. >> Yeah. And that's a lawn all the way around it. Okay. We're going to keep that. >> Okay. Maybe if we just had something in in the
order, if they did add plants, it'd have to talk to the agent >> and be 100% native. Understood. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh and just one other thing, the current lawn is is it existing u uh just Cape
Cod lawn or is it irrigated? It was irrigated. >> It was pretty long long when we were there. >> Yeah. Uh I think it it is irrigated in that the the house that was there before this one had been there for 50s something years and it had a it was all lawn from the house to the top of the
reventment. >> Okay. Um and you have some trees and the mitigation uh to compensate for the uh Japanese black pine that's being removed. >> Yes.
Okay. Okay. That's all. That's all. Thank you. >> All anything. Okay. Um I think this given there aren't a lot of questions and we will add into the order
that they if any um foundation plans are proposed that they would have to get approval of the agents. Um I think we can go to an order. Uh any chance
we could how quickly? I'm hoping maybe March 11th. And I'm sure you probably don't want that. I could do the I guess I could do the 25th. The 11th is now got
five orders. >> Then the 25th, I guess. >> Okay. I appreciate it. >> I move that we continue 67 Wilky Way to the meeting on February 25th, 2026 for an order of conditions. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I.
>> Eric. >> Hi, >> Paul. I >> and I say I. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. All right, Paul. Next. >> Uh, next on the agenda is a notice of intent for uh 55 Sears Point Road is the
location and B. Popkin trustee chatter uh re revocable trust map 11 A1 parcel X2 D number 37. I don't have the whole thing. Reconstruction of existing flatfaced
revetment into a rough face revetment design. Repositioning the northwest corner of the existing revetment which has been experiencing significant storm erosion. This is a new application. Bring it up here in a second.
>> Okay. >> Uh good afternoon. Bill Royale on behalf of an Popkin and Susan Khan the owners of 55 She Point Road. Uh we've retained Mark to repair the u return where we're
having some erosion uh on the revetment. So Mark, go ahead. >> Thank you. Yes, Mark Burgessfront Consulting. >> So this uh this revetment's been here since since the 60s, we were told. Um as
we've seen, there's some uh scarping erosion on the on the east end where it tapers off into the grade. This is very common. You know, where the revetment is there, it doesn't erode. Where it isn't, it does. And now it's flanked behind. So in instead of bringing it or keeping the
revetment back where it is, we're going to work with the land and take those stones and move them against the slope. Now, there might be some additional stones needed to to to reconstruct it and that return, but um they're basically we're just going to wrap it
move the stones and wrap it around the existing slope depending on the condition of the site. If if the erosion and on the slope that we're going up against is already sloped, then the revetment can be laid up against that slope. If by some chance
there's a storm and the slope is vertical, then the contractor would add a little bit of fill to create that slope to lay the rocks against. We anticipate oh it's 35 ft repair and when we're done all of the revetment will be above meanh high water. There's a small
small portion of it right now that mean high water just touches and that will not be the case when we're done. Um, we're rebuilding the rock elevation to elevation six in that location. It's tapered down from elevation 8, which is
adjacent. Uh, as you go, so the the rocks start at elevation six. As you go west, there's a section that's elevation 8, and then the vast majority of the revetment is elevation 10. We'll have two rows of fiber rolls above the rocks filled and planted. Um no work on the
exclusive use area or abuing property is proposed at all. Um and that's that's the immediate part of the project phase one that those repairs need to be done as soon as we can. The second part of
the project I suggested say look if the revetment the the vast the other part of it 260 feet needs any kind of work why don't we include it in the permit now and that way if it does we're already cleared to do it. So that's a phase two but we have there's no intention of
doing that work at the moment and when we get to the three years we'll reassess or if something you know if mother nature takes a turn then uh we'll we'll deal with it then. >> Sorry. it it's only a question of time. Um I
just speak briefly about the the other the 260 foot rebuild. So this is a a what we call a smoothfaced revetment. And with those they're not the design that we use nowadays. We use a rough face. So the smooth face the stones are flat and the water can run right up the
stones. The rough faced the stones are put points out. So the waves have to hit the points and it disperses more energy, prevents more prevents uh less results in less runup. So it it's much the revetment functions better that way. As
far as rebuilding it, it's only 8t tall. So with a large enough excavator, you should be able to do all this from the top. Uh the contractor hasn't been chosen yet. So somebody's probably going to ask, well, what if? Right? If it has to be done from the beach, they would
just cut a portion of the rocks out, drive down to the beach. Now, there's at least 10 feet, at least 10 feet of marsh between the marsh edge and the tow stones. Plus, they would take apart the revetment in within its own footprint and just work backwards. So, there is
plenty of room if a piece of equipment had to be on the beach. and we would inform you of that certainly if that was the case, but we're anticipating it that it could be should all be done from the top. Um, the revetment would be reconstructed
to its existing height of elevation 10. Again, there's a section over on the far right that's at elevation 8. That would be raised to 10 and then tapered down to the repair area at elevation six. So you get new to stones, bedding stone,
secondary stone, primary stones, and a gravel top apron. Um, yeah, the revetment's 8 ft high and about 15 ft wide. So there's there's plenty of room to work within it or above it without uh disturbing anything
uh around uh any of the marsh or any of the other sensitive areas. Teresa uh in her narrative, I'm going to paraphrase, but and Eth is here to explain, but um any any damage to the existing buffer. I'll let him explain how they're going
to handle that, but obviously it all gets restored to uh its current condition. >> Uh good afternoon, Keith Johnson, Blue Flax Design, talking about the access through the mitigation area. Um it's about a 10 foot wide by 60 foot, so 600
square feet. There's currently about 17 plants um native shrubs in that area that will be transplanted. We're going to heal them in and then replant them once the the work is completed. That's about all I have to add for the
plants. >> Thank you. >> Sure. >> Anything else? >> No. Okay, commissioners, anything? >> There's some >> what? >> Uh, Katherine sent me some notes.
>> Okay. >> Um, I don't think she's able to get on. Um, >> who sent the notes? >> Katherine. >> Catherine. >> Katherine Rick, >> Rick, coastal resource director. I'm going to do my best to read her scrolling here. Um, what will occur to the revetment
on the property to the west? I think you already answered that, but >> say that again, please. >> She wanted to know what will occur to the revetment on the property to the west mean low water. >> Well, since we have no plans on on doing any work,
>> Katherine, I don't have to read this. >> Oh, yeah. >> She is. >> Yay. >> I'm not understanding the question, >> Katherine. Yeah, the >> the right now the only work we're going to be doing is on the return.
Uh Mark out of an abundance of caution thought that there should be some filing in case some other part of the revetment fails in the three-year period. Personally, I think that's unlikely. is not exactly a highwave environment and
we just have some you know uh being flanked on the on the end. We'll repair that and hopefully that'll be the end of it for many years. >> So we plan on doing nothing on the west end.
>> So we really haven't thought about >> we haven't thought about how we would treat that. What do you mean? We just >> full revetment reconstruction then probably shouldn't be included in this >> order of conditions. If you haven't fully thought about that extension just
because if you were going to rebuild the 260 ft within the three years, I would think you'd really want to consider what's going to happen to that other um piece of it. >> You mean that? Well, >> hold on a sec. because the property line
it goes beyond the property line on the um west side there. >> Oh well, we're only proposing >> So I just >> we're only proposing to do any work on this property if they would just match up against the stones that are there, not going to the other property. You can
you can knit the reventment back into place when you rebuild it so that it become it still is one structure, >> but we we're not proposing to do I didn't know if you had Yeah, I didn't know if you had contacted them if anything within that time period since you did kind of discuss the which I
agree going to the roughaced instead of the uh flatfaced revetment is a good idea. >> No, they would have to file a separate filing for that then if they if they chose to do work on that property. >> So, I'd still like to include it as a caution, but
>> but yeah, we're not going to do any work on anybody else's property. Okay. Then I guess another question since you did comment that you would >> if it scarps any more you would add Phil to that. I would caution on that just because there's a great distance between
the house. There's over 100 feet between the dwelling and that uh extension of the the taper >> and kind of the 90 the 45 degree return there that you are going to work on. Right. >> Uh I don't think any fill would really
need to be put into the bank. I would think you'd want to maybe even cut back instead of trying to push it out further. >> Yep, that is an option. Yes. >> Yeah, that'd be acceptable. >> Yeah, that's okay. >> And is it tapering down the whole way? Because you said from 8 feet to six
feet, but is it going to >> taper all the way down or you just going to end it at a six foot height? >> Um, it's a good question. We always try to taper a little bit on the end. Um, but it's not going to be like a long drawn out taper because we want that protection to extend. But yeah, he
should stack it like stone by stone by stone by stone to taper up to the six feet. >> Any thought on that? But also maybe a fiber roll like going at along that bank at the end just going from the hard to
the softer solution to the bank. Um, I I I think about that, but what's going to happen is the the fiber rolls are exposed to more wave energy, which is why you need the rocks, and then the fiber rolls go away, and you end up with the same situation we're trying to correct.
>> They can be a little more of a buffer um at the end there, especially since it would be at the at the end into the the bank there. >> Just something to consider. >> We could certainly taper it down. That's that's not a problem. >> Yep. And then um one other thought on
these crosssections. It kind of shows a one to one and a half or two. Is it going to be a one to one and a half or is it going to be a one to two? >> I see what I drew. >> I mean I would like the one to two. It's kind of It says both. >> Oh, I see one and a half to two. Um we
prefer one and a half. So if he has to >> with it being so far from the house I and to really slope it so you have less wave energy going up and less wave energy reflecting the two is a little
bit of a better slope on that. >> Yeah. If they in either case >> I mean there is a lot of room. It's there's over 100 feet to the dwelling. So >> right. So in either case you would have to cut the slope back to maintain to create the proper slope. And if you want
it to be one and a half to one firm, then that's okay, too. Okay. >> And I think the other I just looked at this quickly, so I was um trying to go through, but
yeah, I think that is those were my main um concerns on this. And I do think that if you're just doing that taper, it should be able to be um done from above. So, I don't think you'll really need any machines on the beach. >> Hope so. Correct.
>> Thank you, Katherine. >> You're welcome. Thank you. Welcome. Go ahead, Paul. >> So, I'm I'm Am I correct in in assuming that the first phase of this is just 35 ft correct >> on the east? >> Correct. Okay. Thanks.
So, I I also have comments from Janet and I have some pretty much the same as what Katherine said, which was um the slope I I think would really rather have it be 2 to one, just so you know, an opinion. And I love
that it's the rough surface. I'm thrilled over that because I do think that's much better. Um, then I I'm a little concerned about phase two because you're asking us to approve
a larger area without a plan or anything. Um, I think if anything, I would say if if you want us to include it, you're still going to have to come back to us with a plan and, you know,
>> let us hear it. Um, I I don't think it can be done just saying, "Oh, go ahead." Because we don't have a plan for it. >> Yeah. Um, that's fine. I mean our our principal concern right now >> is the 35 ft
>> is the 35 ft so we can stop the erosion that's going on >> right which has been going for a long time so we're thrilled over that part >> right so the the um >> section A is that part of the plan it's on the plan
section AA is the section through the existing staircase on 260 ft so that shows you in that that area how the the rest of it would be done but you don't know what part of that section you might
have to do. And so, yes, there's a it's we see that there are two sections, but um you know, it I just think if we're if we're putting this into an order for
all of it, I think we'd like more detail before you did that section because you're not giving us as much detail about the work. We we can we can amend it to include it later or or whatever. We were assuming that if any part of that wall gets
damaged then the prudent thing is to just rebuild the whole thing. So that's why we have one detail that covers the whole 260 ft. >> Well too much then >> I think I think the concern of the commission u is understandable. My own concern would be
what other conditions might change in the time period between now and three years from now that would require modifications to the plan. I think if we can stick right now with the repair,
>> uh, we have Mark's plan, >> you know, so if we do have to do work in the future, we have a design, we might have to modify it based on whatever exist conditions exist at that time, but I think uh, the property owners would be happy just to get the
repair done uh, on the end. >> Oh, no. I get that. Katherine, how do you feel about including phase two in with the 35 feet and maybe what we would put in an order like asking for more
detail or you know what would do you have any concerns? Would you have anything that you'd want to see? >> Well, a couple concerns. the I don't know exactly what the date is on the full plan, but edge of salt marsh is
2019 on that plan. So, I think that would need to be updated. Uh, and then just I would like to know more of how it would key in to the property on the west or what would happen to that property on the west
>> or how it or tapering down because you're going up a little bit. So tapering down just something on that >> western property line um with that >> design of the the full revetment. >> Okay. >> And maybe pulling back the toe or something just because the the salt
marsh is right there. But that's a 2019. So we're not even sure if that's what the salt marsh is right now. >> Okay. Might I might I suggest that if phase two was to be implemented we have to come back before the commission. But it >> Okay. >> But at least have it in our back pocket just in case.
>> Okay. And also you have a rack that's down sort of in the marsh. It's a I think it's a paddle board rack. Anyway, um >> Oh, it is. It sticks out into the marsh
and >> Oh, we have stairs. >> So, I'm back attached to the stairs. >> That's there. You've gone right where I was going. is can we attach it to the side of the stairs, the landing,
whatever, because it's it's out into it and from what I understand um it people have to walk around it and from what I see >> yeah Janice Janice complained about that for years so we understand but >> you know who I'm getting this note from
>> what I don't understand is >> she walks that all the time >> I know she does yeah but I don't understand what the proposal was remedy that? >> Well, I think to attach it on the side of the landing or stairs so it's not
sticking out into the marsh that it's off. We often ask for this. We ask for it to be placed onto the side of a stairway, a landing, um like this side somewhere.
>> Not now. It's this way. >> Okay. Okay. We'll be happy to discuss that with our clients. >> Great. >> I don't think it needs any further help from you since there wouldn't be any excavation. >> No, it will be a big improvement. So, I
appreciate that. Um, so we do have a couple things we need, which is the edge of the salt marsh updated, but that's for phase two, right? >> Right. >> Okay. >> And how it would be keyed into the west, that would be phase two.
Um are you absolutely have to have the one half to one? >> No, >> you can do two is fine. >> Whatever you are recommending, whatever Katherine's recommending is acceptable to us. >> Yeah, that's what I think we'd prefer.
>> Yeah, just create the order that way and we'll be happy to accept it. >> And then of course you're going to if there's if you do have to go down on the beach, you would come back and inform us, >> right? Um, anybody anything else, Bob? Anything?
>> Yeah, I have something on the east end after you repair that um return after you add to it. What happens then? I mean, that's still on their property, correct? Where it's all eroding. >> Yes, it is. >> Right. >> Where in front of that deck? What's
going to happen there? Is it going to going to keep eroding and eroding all the way back? >> On what deck? I'm sorry. >> On the >> There's a little bit of a deck there, too. Yeah, >> it's that that's not on the property. I've talked with that homeowner and he didn't want us doing I offer, you know, we had offered to extend the project
onto his property. He didn't want us to do that. So, um, so we're it would end it would end there and time goes on either one of them would uh would deal with it. But mother nature being mother nature his I told him his property is probably going to
continue to erode and he was okay with that. >> Okay. So that's >> So that's So you understand this is a condominium and the person who owns the other unit, the one further up off the further from the beach,
has an we call an exclusive use area. So we can't enter that without his permission. And he's told us he doesn't want anything done there. And he's indicated to Mark, I wasn't part of the conversation, that if the erosion continues, he'll move his deck
back, >> I guess. >> I guess. >> Okay. So that So the property line is this gray dash line. Is that what the >> Right. That's It's not really a property line. It's the It's the beginning of his exclusive use area. The property line is the solid red line.
>> Yes. >> The exclusive use line is in magenta. The the gray dash line is the work limit. >> Okay. >> It's up on the shelf. Okay. So, that >> dropped on the floor and then jumped up on the shelf. >> Oh my gosh. Well, that was helpful.
>> Okay, that's a wrap then. >> Um, anything else? >> No, that's it. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> All right, we Do you have anything else, Paul? >> Nope. >> All right. Um Gosh, got a lot going. Yes, go ahead.
>> U before and after pictures. >> Yeah, >> sure. Um, >> and the 25th is fine with us. >> I won't be here. But, but >> how do you like March 11th? I mean, >> that's fine. >> That's fine, too.
>> Oh, thank you. >> Even if they bid it today, it would be months before you get somebody out there. So, >> yeah, >> no problem. >> Perfect. Because >> we just want it done before the summer. That's all. >> Okay. So, we can go to an order on the 11th of March.
I move that we continue 55 Sears Point. Oh, one thing. >> I'm confused. Is it Sears Point Road or Sears Point Lane? >> Sears Point Road. Don't ask me why. I see I have it listed in the town. >> Okay.
Thank you. I move that we continue 55 Sears Point Road to the meeting on March 11th, 2026 for phase one. >> Second. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Bob. Hi, >> Eric. >> Hi, >> Paul. >> Hi.
>> And I say I. >> Okay. The next thing, Paul, please. >> I'm sorry. You want me to read? >> Uh, yeah. Why don't you take this first one? Let me do it. I'll do it, Karen. Uh, next on the agenda is uh request for
certificate of compliance. Excuse me. >> 70 Queen Anne Road, Queen Anne Chadam LLC, the owner. Map 13E, parcel 14. You're going to have to finish it. >> You want me to do it? >> Yeah. >> Parcel 14 SE10-2305.
Reconstruct existing parking lot and install drainage. Work was never started. >> All right. So, we can go to a motion. You're fine. >> I move that we approve the certificate
of compliance for 70 Queen and Road. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. I >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> Okay. The next one. Do you want me to do it? >> Yes, please. >> 67 Wilky Way Wilky Way 67 Nom nominee
Trust Map 17D parcel F13 SE10-3345. Additions to dwelling and landscape improvements. Work was never started. >> David Clark, Clark Engineering. Um, you just reviewed the replacement project for this one. um that this project uh
had a pool and a patio and it had about 90 more square feet in the 5100 than project you just heard. Oh, obviously it hasn't been started. Uh, so I think it's just an easy >> good. Thank you. >> Okay, Paul.
>> I move that we approve the certificate of compliance for 767 Wilky Way. >> Second. >> Bob, >> I >> Eric. >> I >> Paul. >> I. >> And I say I. You want me to do it again? >> This one? Oh, no. You want to do it?
>> Okay. The humidity, you know, the humidity without it just be sure it gets dry. Sometimes you have to That's fine. Coughing fit. >> 14 Main Street, Chattam Beach and Tennis Club, map 16B, parcel 73, SE10-3075, deck edition and mitigation plantings.
We also have um map 16B, parcel 73, local only CWP 10-2233N shed installation. And we have um SE10-827
septic installation. All of those are for Main Street. >> Go ahead, >> David Clark, Clark Engineering. Uh so the easiest one is the shed. Um obviously the shed's there. It's actually 10 square feet smaller than
what was approved. Um that was under the local uh bylaw only. Um the next one is the septic system. Uh the only portion of that that was in your jurisdiction was the leech field that's underneath the Shell parking lot. Obviously there's
no vegetation to maintain and a certificate of compliance was issued by the board of health. So we can all assume that it was at least constructed uh per the plan. And then the final one uh being the uh porch edition. I
submitted pictures of that. Um um there was a mitigation plan and mitigation required. I took pictures of the mitigation area. It's in the northeast corner adjacent to the parking lot. It looks about as naturalized as it
could possibly be. It I walked past it a couple of times before I looked at the plan again and said, "Oh, that's the mitigation." So, it's blended in with the rest of the vegetation on the bank uh quite well. Um
that's all I have to say. >> Um the only thing I have is you know we asked ZBA for their comments and the one that's the local only. She said a final building inspection for this permit um
has not been requested. Please contact community development department to schedule the final inspection so the permit can be closed out. Once the inspection is complete, I will have no concerns regarding the issuance of the com certificate of compliance.
Um, so I'm thinking, and maybe I think Paul, chime in if if it's different, that we could vote to approve it and then hold that one until we hear that they've
um, >> is that possible? >> I I I guess so. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's funny they want to close out a building permit for a shed, but uh >> I know, but they do. >> Yeah. >> So, that's their comment.
>> Open files. It's >> um >> Everybody hates them. >> Anybody have any comments about any any of these? >> No, that's a good good idea. Just >> Okay. Um Paul, anything need to
>> No, I just I'm I'm good. Okay, then I think we can put them all. We'll do the two >> and then we'll do that shed the local. >> I move that we approve the certificates of compliance for 14 Main Street,
>> uh the the deck edition and the septic installation. >> And I also move that we approve the certificate of compliance for 14 Main Street for the shed contingent on the shed permit. >> Second and third.
Okay, Bob. >> Hi, >> Eric. >> Hi, >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I thank you. >> Welcome. This And then there's the outstanding uh reissuance for SE 10740 uh which I mentioned during you
mentioned it. Um >> um >> it wasn't on the agenda, but >> uh a motion or can you just re >> Crystal can just I told you she can just reissue it. It was lost, right? I can't find it. >> Right. But but Bradford had had comments
on it and I just want to make sure he's >> right >> satisfied. >> Well, he's on I sent him out. There's a a walkway on it. Um that basically uh wasn't it was it was con was supposed to be raised and elevated if I'm
speaking about the right one. >> Yeah. >> Was constructed out of CCA way back. Now it's plastic and it's kind of laying on the sand. Um, so we can either hold off on that or Bradford, are you there?
>> Says he is. >> Yes, he is. >> I am. Um, I I mainly wanted to note uh the changes from what was originally permitted to now. Um, I think the the
biggest thing would be um if we could add a note to um remove that during the winter and have it snow again. I think that would be the biggest uh benefit to the environment >> seasonal. >> Yeah, certainly an act grade boardwalk
is easier to remove in the offse than and I think what they why they proposed an elevated walkway originally was 1989 was two years after the break. Am I right, Eric? Yeah, that was. >> And so the waves were crashing pretty darn close to the tennis courts at that
time. Um, so I think what they were thinking was waves to go under this during the summer months. Um, now the beach, the open water is 200 feet away. >> So I don't So you really don't need a raised walkway? >> No, no, no. Not at all.
>> Okay. >> Um, did we do our vote? I don't remember. Let's do it. Bob, >> I >> Paul. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> Thank you very much. >> Sorry, I'm kind of losing it. Okay. And
the next thing on the agenda, I believe, is 97 Tippy Run. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, this is discussion for 97 Tilip Run. We did receive the reports uh from uh Brian McCormack and Katherine Ricks uh on the
ongoing uh violation uh for the patio and I know you wanted to discuss this with the commission so we put it on the agenda. >> So this is just kind of catch you guys up to date and we do have these two reports that we got from
um Brian at Woods Hole and then Katherine who I think previously I've told you we've had some meetings with all the with the property owner and his representatives and we all went out together to have everybody look at it
and ask them for their reports and they were due in January and we now have them both. that have been provided to the representatives and the property owner. Um, and we have requested a meeting that they schedule a meeting with us um being
the representatives, not not a fullon um to see where we stand um in February because we don't want this sitting any longer. uh after this meeting probably tomorrow
um the two reports will be sent to you all or else I think I think they might be on teams and if I can find them on teams I'll just send a little thing that says here's where you find them. Um if not um we'll send them to you and get
them on to teams. So, I mean, they both pretty much agreed on what, you know, solutions there were. So, the next step will be seeing how the representatives and the owner react to
the recommendations and see if they we can get them to come before us with a plan, whatever of the recommendations they choose to do. Um, they are a violation. we never issued it
because they were working with us or at least sort of um so we um will have to figure something out if we can't come to a a a solution but I don't know that that what
will happen at this point. Um so that's the update. Paul, do you want to add anything or Paul? >> No, I think you covered everything. um once they have a chance to read the reports then you can have a more uh robust discussion about um what the
solution might be and uh you know I I I don't think we're looking at uh probably shouldn't talk about a solution until we talk we can get the solutions that were given weren't major >> right
>> so hopefully something will be agreed to um I I mean I think that they were incredibly doable, all of them. But you'll see what the letters say and the the reports and can make your own
decisions. And then of course, you know, we'll all be able to um ask questions and everything once we get to that point. But I didn't feel it was you all needed to be a part of all of these
meetings. So, um that's why I give you the the updates. Um, any questions at this point? Okay, then I did see that there was were minutes from last meeting, but that's not on the agenda.
>> Uh, I have minutes to be approved for January 14th. >> Yeah, I didn't see it on the agenda, but we can have that. >> Well, it's on this. >> Oh, it is? Maybe I missed it. >> Uh, Chris had revised this a couple of times because of the continuing states and things like that, so she might have added that on there.
>> Okay. But you you don't have the minutes is what you're saying. >> No, the minutes are out there. I didn't see it on the agenda. >> Okay. >> It's not on the agenda. >> Uh >> can we still approve them? >> Um the one that's posted, let's see. Uh let
me see here. >> Uh >> it is on the agenda online on my town government. >> Oh, it's just not on our agenda on teams. So we're okay. We can still have
a motion. >> It should be. >> I agree. >> I didn't see it. Yeah, >> but that it's on my government. It's fine. >> Got posted. >> As long as it's on my town. >> Yep.
>> Um, so if we could have them Oh, does anybody have any modifications to the minutes? >> Oh, you threw Bob a loop there. See, he doesn't he wasn't able to look it over. >> Well, they're there. I move that we approve the minutes from the meeting of February, excuse me, January 14th.
>> Second. >> Okay. Bob, >> I. >> Eric, >> I. >> Paul, >> I. >> And I say I. I did read them over. So, we need one more motion, please. >> I move that we adjourn the hearing.
>> Second. >> Okay. Bob, >> I. >> Eric. >> I. >> Paul. >> I. >> And I say I.