Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Good afternoon. This is a hearing of the CH Conservation Commission being held on June 24th, 2026 in accordance with the Massachusetts Wetlands Protection Act in
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record of a quorum, I will now ask each commissioner to indicate their presence. Vice Chair Paul Johnson >> present. >> Janet Williams >> present. >> Elise Gordon >> present. >> Eric Hilbert >> present. >> Bob Delveio >> present. >> And I'm here. We have an established we have a quorum. Is there anyone who would
like to make any announcements, comments, or future agent agenda items for anything other than the properties on the agenda today? You may contact comment on those when the property is being heard. Um, I'm not seeing anybody online or here, so I think we're good.
Any commissioners, I assume. Okay. Before we begin the agenda, Bradford, are there any announcements for any requests for continuances today? Yes, we have four continuence requests. Um, the first one for 12 Clark Meadows Way um
requested a continuence to July 8th. >> Uh 42 Old Harbor Lane has requested a continuence to July 22nd. 101 Oyster Pond Furlong has requested a continuence to July 22nd and 8 Windmill Lane has requested a continuence to July
8th. >> Perfect. Thank you. At this point, Bradford Bower, Chadam's assistant conservation agent, will now lead us through the agenda. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. First up is an order of conditions for 87 Plum Daffy Lane, Terry B. and Janet L. Wells, map
9A, parcel 5A- 1015 D15 SC 10-3772. Uh this was for a proposed coastal stabilization and proposed beach access stairs was continued from April 8th and June 10th, 2026.
>> Okay, thank you. Um hello, how are you? >> Hi. Good afternoon, Tabitha Kaggel from Wilkinson Ecological Design. >> Yes, I did receive the email yesterday and
I've made a couple modifications. They're in bright red and bolded. Um number one you asked uh number three in the findings that you did not like the first sentence that says the applicant has proposed to compensate for impacts
associated with prior improper vegetation management on the coastal bank topping existing vegetation by allowing all vegetation to regrow without any further pruning and installing of vegetative native woody shrubs as detailed on the restoration
plan. I did update that. Um, let me get to it. Um, oh, it's not findings. I just passed it. Okay. What I did was I modified number three and specified um that it you know
further pruning and installing a variety of native woody shrubs as deta detailed in the reserv restoration plan and designated as the coastal bank restoration and then I a restoration area and I added a new finding the thicket
management area on the restoration plan is proposed to be managed managed per pruned to an undulating four to six feet height which is what you asked for. >> That's great. Thank you. >> Okay. Number two.
Number five. In the special conditions, um you said access for the fiber roll portion of the project will be from Barnhill Landing after obtaining the appropriate license from the town via landing craft to the job site. This is
stated in the land management plan. We believe we are covered for this access under condition five, but want to be sure the access for the coastal bank portion of the work will be from the existing driveway and uh of the subject property. Um I believe
it is covered under special condition five. You you're fine. I think our condition works. Um, Jen, I know you're on it. Um, what do you think? >> Special condition. >> Yeah, it just says, um,
>> well, wait a minute. Maybe it's not special condition five. Let me re I thought it was >> uh >> second is five. Oh, specific project conditions section. And yeah, so
it's harder to find because you didn't tell us what sections. >> Yeah. And so it's way down. >> Yeah, it's in the specific projects >> and I believe is covered under that. Um
Okay. It says machinery and vehicle access shall be from the existing driveway and across upland areas unless otherwise specified in the approved work protocol. um which your land management is your work protocol. So I believe it is
covered and as long as nobody disagrees. >> Oh that's fine. >> And number three the order requirement in standard conditions 15B states that an engineered stamped as built ne is needed. I did.
You asked if that was necessary for plants because it's plants and I did change that. I think 15B. I have to find B, right? Nope, that's not it.
Where is it? 11. Page 11R. Second to last page. >> Yeah. Um, >> I it's the it's either or and a is a written statement from a Massachusetts
res registered professional engineer showing the plans and documents or an asbuilt. So, we're not saying it has to be an registered engineer. You can provide an asbuilt because B is or a registered
professional engineer or land surveyor which I believe would be them doing the work. So that in the past that's always been in there and I I believe it pertains. Do you agree Bradford? >> Yep. Uh that's a fairly standard special
condition. Right. >> The only thing that's changed is uh we've added or >> Yeah. And >> we have you can you don't have to provide both. You can provide one or the other. So you're covered. >> Great. >> Uh anything else?
>> I believe there was a um Raul is is Raul here? I believe there was a a date um an incorrect date, but I believe that's been corrected. >> Okay. I I don't know. Raul's here is here and I didn't receive an email from
him. So Raul, go ahead. >> Uh yes, for the record, Rowley started with Cape Engineering and I did think um Crystal um took care of those correction. It was just that the last correction or last revision on the site
plan um was noted as being the revision for the stabilization plan. Um so I think Crystal already corrected that. >> Okay, good. It is at at the very bottom of the first page, page 11B, >> and the very top of of the second page,
um, page 11 C. >> Okay, perfect. Thank you. >> Um, >> thanks, >> commissioners. Anything, Bob, Janet, anyone? Okay. Um, then I think we can go to an order for
this. I mean >> I move that we close the hearing on 87 Plum Daffy Lane and approve the order of conditions as modified. >> Second. >> Bob >> I Eric >> I >> Paul >> I >> Janet >> I >> Elise
>> I do I I don't abstain because I missed the last one. >> You didn't I you may vote and I say I >> perfect. Thank you. Next Bradford, please. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Next up is an order of conditions for 115 landing lane Todd Lynch uh map 13K
parcel R5 DP number SE 10-3779. Uh this was for slope stabilization and restoration plantings within land subject to coastal storm flowage and reconstruction of accesses over a coastal bank. This was continued from May 13, 2026.
>> Okay. And I think I assume Crystal uh found out it had been approved. Remember we had the issue with the um agenda the um ZBA comments where she didn't really comment on that one, but
I'm assuming it was approved. It was heard June 11th. I think we would have known. >> I believe so. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Um >> yes, it was. >> Oh, thank you, Crystal. Um, commissioners, any modifications,
comments? >> I have one on uh >> Sure. >> Uh, findings uh seven. I added to it. I just added a sentence at the end. >> Oh, good. >> The seasonal mat must be stored in the boat house during the off season.
>> Oh, great. Perfect. Uh, anything else? Anybody? Any representatives have anything else? I didn't have anything else. Tabitha Kegel Wilkinson, ecological design.
>> Okay. Uh then we can go to a motion. >> I move that we close the hearing on 115 Landing Lane and approve the order of conditions as modified. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> I. >> Paul. >> I. >> Janet. >> I. >> Elise. >> I.
>> And I say I. >> Okay, you're all set. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Next, Bradford, please. Next up is a request for an extension uh for 543 Old Harbor Road. Uh owner is Kate Earls, map 16H, parcel 3, D number
SE 10-3456. Uh this was for demolition of existing dwelling and reconstruction of a new dwelling with a pool. >> Thank you. Do we have any representative? >> Yeah. Hi. Um, for the record, Lauren
Taylor with Crawford Land Management on behalf of behalf of the applicants. Um, this permit was originally issued in January 2021. Um, it was amended that same year in August. So, the original expiration date was August of 2024. Um,
but with the permit extension act, it was extended uh until this August. Um and at this point in time, the applicant's looking for an extension in order to plant the required uh mitigation plantings under the amended order. Um so those were within the
Japanese knotweed management area. Um so we've been managing the notweed for a few years now. Um taking care of some of the um shoots that have been coming up um in subsequent years. So at this point we have really good control of notweed
within that area um and we're you know the area is ready to plant. So, if granted this extension, uh, we'd be looking to plant that area this fall. Um, but if there's any questions about that, I I'll do my best to help answer those. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh, commissioners, anybody have any questions?
>> Go ahead, Janet. >> Yes. Hi, Lauren. So, the Do I understand that the initial uh treatment of the knotweed, which would have been cut and injecting was in 2021? >> Yep, that's correct. fall of 21.
>> Okay. Is that unusual that five years later it it took five years to to battle it? Is that >> uh No, I wouldn't say it's unusual. It typically takes three years. Um this area was really strongly populated with
knotweed. So 3 to 5 years isn't atypical. Um and at this point we have really good control of it. I'd say it's 95% controlled. So the shoots that are coming up are very sparse. Um, so theoretically we could have planted a little bit sooner, but now, you know,
we're just giving those restoration plantings a better chance of um, not being out competed by respouting stock. >> Okay. Well, that I was asking about that because it's it's it's never clear to me how long it's going to take to to get notweed under control and it's going to
be coming up again today later. Um the one issue I have with this though is that if the plan if the if the mitigation plants are just going in now this fall um we extend it by one year that's only one year of survivability.
Um I'm looking at Bradford is there is 20 if if we extend it to 2027 is that the end of the extensions or could we extend beyond that? first. >> This is the first. So, we can extend for two, four years to get the three years of recording of monitoring those plans.
Okay. >> Yes. So, we'll be doing that. Just so you know, Lauren, that we'll be extending it for >> Yeah. >> You'll need to ask each one at a time. Yeah. You do, right? >> Yeah. You need to request it next year at this time and then the following year at this time and each year we can give
you a one year and then you've run out. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. That sounds good. It was our understanding that you would only issue for one year at a time. So, we were kind of expecting to come back for those. Okay. >> Um, but thank you for the clarification. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> So, if we could have a motion to approve
a one year. >> I move that we approve the request for an extension on one on 543 Old Harbor Road for one year. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> I. >> Paul. I. >> Janet. I.
>> And I say I. Okay, you're all set. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay, the next one, please. >> Next up is a field change request for 97 Tippy Run. The owners are TR97, Nominee Trust, MAP for, excuse me, map 14
A3-2-B. The PE number SCE 10-3690. Uh, this was for shorefront protection. The field change request is to add sto a stone pa patio with mitigation.
>> Thank you. Okay, who's on for this? Interesting. Really? You've got to be kidding.
Okay. So, uh I think we're gonna have to continue it. >> Okay. We can but Well, true. I mean, there's just Does anybody have any questions about it? Because if you do, we'd have to continue it. I I thought we
could vote, but I I I think we can vote. Um I don't have any questions. Um, but I'll just say for the record that I'm going to vote against it just because I don't think it's a it's an appropriate use of a field change request to resolve a violation this way. I think it should
have been done by a restoration order. Somehow the the the the paper trail is gone that it was actually a violation and it's being treated like >> we never actually sent the violation. >> Yeah, I know the technical >> that was part of the problem because they were quote unquote working. I just
worry about the precedent of >> I agree >> using field change anyway. >> Um >> but if they're not here, I don't I mean the the plan is what we've looked at >> and we've and we said that we thought and and our representatives who >> Katherine and Brian >> that's what they recommended. So I'm
okay with what they're doing. >> Yeah. >> Um go ahead, Eric. >> Isn't this the one that we just wanted to reduce the path a little bit on on the west side going down? >> It really was that they put in the patio, >> right? I remember that. and they can't
move any of the stones because they're 200 lb each and they can't get machinery there because they >> moved them in >> and it's the neighbors planting that is gave them access. >> So that was the initial issue and we had
Katherine and who else do we have Brian? Yeah >> from Woods Hole came out and observed it last October. So, this has taken six, seven months to get this far. Um, and
they gave recommendations in February, I think we went over them, and it's been now four months trying to get a plan. So, this was really what they came up with. That's Sean.
>> He's not on this. I don't think he wasn't. So, okay. I think we can have a motion to approve the field change. >> I move that we approve the field change request for 97 Tilip run as written.
>> I second. >> Bob >> I >> Eric >> I >> Paul >> I >> Janet >> no Elise >> no. >> I say I Okay, it's all set. Um
Next one, Bradford, please. >> Next up is a notice of intent for 12 Clark Meadows Way. Uh, the owners are Jatina and Anna Patel, map 5B, parcel 19 C-13C,
D number SE 10-3769. Uh, this is for construction of an addition to an existing dwelling, deck, patio, stairs, and hot tub. It was continued from April 1st, 2026. and the applicant has requested a continuence to July 8th, 2026.
>> I move that we continue 12 Clark Matters Way to the meeting on July 8th, 2026. >> Second. >> Bob, >> I >> Eric. >> Hi. >> Paul, >> I >> Janet. I >> And I say I. >> Next, please. >> All right. Next up is a notice of intent
for 270 Stage Island Road. Owner is Essex Fels Partners LLC. Map 13A2, parcel 3-d166, uh, DP number SE 10-3780. This is for the demolition of an
existing structure and construction of a new single family dwelling with septic tank upgrade, rear deck, soak pool, landscaping, and associated site work. >> Um, good afternoon. Tim Santos from Merill Engineers representing the applicant. With your permission, I will
sc share my screen. Assuming everybody can see that. >> Yes. >> All right. Excellent. Um again, the property is located at 270 Stage Island Road. Currently developed with an existing single family home, gravel driveway,
uh serviced by town water and on-site sewage disposal system. Uh resource areas on or within 100 ft of the property are salt marsh to the rear land subject to coastal storm flowage and a coastal bank. Um, we have the 50ft buffer that kind of runs through the
house and the 100t buffer that is in front of the house. What we're here today to do is demolish the existing home, construct the new single family home with deck. Um, there is dry wells that will be associated with
this project. So, all roof runoff will be contained and sent to the dry wells. The part of the project is to um install a new septic tank and the existing tank will be in the front of the house as it is currently proposed.
Um I have provided some mitigation or I should say uh the redevelopment counts that are shown in the this lower corner of the plan lower left corner of the 0 to 50 foot buffer and the 50 to the 100 foot
buffer. There is a reduction of 379 square feet. Oh, I should say 335 square feet in the uh in the 0 to 50 and then uh an increase
of 309 square ft in the 50 to 100. So there's an overall reduction of 26 square ft. Um, we are not providing mitigation, but we are providing some restoration plans that's shown here that has been designed by
Crawford Land Management. I'm going to move over to that plan, but Angela is also there in the audience and she can kind of review that restoration plan and then if the board has any questions, we'll be more than happy to address them.
>> Okay. Thank you. Hi. >> Hi. My name is Angela Tanner. um from Crawford Land Management and we did the restoration plan that you can see up there. The area to the west of the house um we divided it into two general areas.
The top half of it is very thickly inundated with honeysuckle and other invasive plants. There's Rosa rigosa and some other things. The bottom part is um maybe half inundated. So, we would like
to remove the invasive species and replace it with native plants. And then there's also another area over to the south of the house where it's just along the edges of the lawn. There's some pretty thick honeysuckle in there. And
so, we would also like to restore that area. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, I have a couple things before I pass it on to others. First on your restoration plan, you say in one of your notes at the
bottom that the area PA is to be approved by conservation as commission prior to installation. I'd like detail now um only because I don't want to have it put off and possibly
um forgotten or you know and I don't want to put it on conservation agents and have to revisit this unless you are going for an amendment which I doubt you'd want to file an amendment in order to do that. >> Sure. Second, um I understand
that the plunge pool has been removed. Is that correct? >> That that is correct. >> So, we do not have an updated site plan. >> It was literally just removed I believe on Monday.
>> Okay. But we The point is we need a new site plan because I understand I understand. I understand that and I knew this meeting would need to be continued anyways because we have to go to zoning. So >> we will get you a revised plan
>> ASAP. If we had had everything now and if commission was okay, we could have sent it to an order after zoning and you would know you're all set. So instead, we're we are having to meet and hear this again. So that's why I'm asking. So
um and do you have a date for zoning yet? Yeah, it's August 13th. >> Okay. Yeah, I had heard that it was probably going to be August. Okay. Um, that's all I have for right now. I'm going to open it to other commissioners. >> Could I could I ask a quick question
about the planting? So, the clients are working with Hawk Design on the uh ornamental areas. Is it and I know they're well aware of that most of the plants need to be native. Is it possible that they could provide a plant list rather than a full planting plan or do
you need a full planting plan? >> We usually get a plan. I mean, if you can say in on yours that this section has these this number and these bushes, I guess it would be okay, right Bradford? At least then we have
something that would tell us >> if we have to wait until August anyway. There's plenty of time to do a landscape. I agree. >> Then we don't have to worry about it. >> But um I'm wondering if they don't want to have to pay somebody else to do another plan. >> I I think they just don't want to have
to keep revising it if there's other things on the plan that need to be changed, which is But I'm sure they're willing to do that. >> Yeah. I mean, you'll find out today how we, you know, if there's any other comments or questions, so you'll have a good idea of where where everything
stands after today. >> Okay. >> All right. Commissioners, anything? >> Go ahead, Paul. >> Yeah, I have one thing. Um, I noticed that that on the existing plans, there's a patio
right by the front walkway and on the current plans, that patio is doesn't exist. Is that being taken out? >> You're talking about, let me just uh share my screen. As you're facing the house from the driveway on the right hand side, there's a walkway
>> going to I think was the front door and there's a patio there currently and there's it's not on the >> Yeah, you're talking about this walkway right here. >> Yes, that's right. >> Okay. Yeah, that that's going to be completely removed because the house is being demolished.
>> Okay. So, this is the proposed plan and there are some new um walkways and revised driveway. >> Okay. Um >> I have a quick question. >> Go ahead.
>> Um for Angela. So, help me here. I am I have identified three X's denoting the trees that are being removed on the plan, but I'm struggling to find the fourth one. And I'm sure right in front of me, but I'm not finding it.
>> It's I found it. I thought >> um I don't see it either. I'm not >> Okay, good. I'm sorry. You found me a good >> um It might be that it got cut off of the plan. >> It could be. Okay, so check. >> But we will we'll figure that out when
we go back to revise. >> That's one, two, three. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody? Anything else? >> Yeah, I just want to say on a positive note, I commend you on the square footage uh on the >> Yeah.
>> Pervious. I think it's I think it's great. >> Yep. >> I mean the impervious. Sorry. Uh anybody else? >> A couple of >> Go ahead. >> Couple of things, please.
>> Uh hi. How are you? Um the uh to the north of the uh structure um there's a a grouping of uh nice trees. Um there's some there are some hollies
and there's some cedars. Do you know what I'm talking about along the property line? >> Are you asking me or Angela? I was one I don't see the limit of work on our plan. I don't I assume those are outside of
the limit of work >> because the only tree that we have shown to be removed is so so yeah the edge of those trees is outside of the limit of work. >> Will they
I believe they're up in this area if you can see where my my hand is. Um, and the limit of work is going to run right along the edge of clearance. We're not proposing to remove any trees that are within the wooded area to the north of the house.
>> Okay. Can you protect those before you begin construction >> with like a snow fence or something? >> You can add tree protection fencing to the plan. >> Yeah. Okay. Um and also uh
the the second tree to be removed, the one to the north is the number one and then below that south of that is number two. Uh where the proposed garage is going. Um could that be transplanted? I believe
that's a a small Japanese maple. >> Um I would have to look at it. I know transplants are usually fairly iffy. Um, >> yeah, >> I'm sure >> I think >> and it's also not a native tree, so I don't think it would be our first
priority to do on this plan, but if that's something that's within possibility >> if it's Yeah, if it's small enough, if you can do it, that would be that would be it was it's kind of a nice specimen tree. Um, and then I was going to ask about
that path to the south leading down to the water. Does that path lead down to the water? >> It does. It leads down to kind of winds around and goes, it's an existing path.
>> It's not surveyed, so we just wanted to make sure that they're still able to >> access >> maintain a a foot path through there. It's not a very big path. Is there any I didn't want to go down because of the ticks, but is there any erosion down at the base at all because of the path?
>> Uh, no. The path isn't really very close to the marsh until you get to the very end of it. >> Okay. So, everything's secure down there. Okay. That's all I had for now. Thank you. >> Just wanted to add maybe you can
stipulate the the width of the path that you're so it's on record. >> Okay. Sure. >> Good idea. Thank you. Anybody? Anything else? All right. When you remove that plunge pool or soaker pool, whatever it's
called, um you are going to have to update your coverage charts because that is what's giving you the increase in the NDZ. >> I'll I've already looked at it. We have a revised plan and it is updated. So, I will get that to you. >> Okay.
Um, anybody anything else? No. Then we're going to have to continue this unfortunately. Um, >> so so my question is can and it would be I guess I have to talk to Angela too. Is it possible to continue before the
zoning meeting so that we could address all your concerns from today and then >> absolutely >> we can. >> Yes. Angela, when do you guys think you can get your plan revised? >> Uh, our plan revisions are pretty minor.
I think it's mostly dependent on Hawk Design, how quickly they can get a planting plan put together. >> When When would the uh next available hearing be before that 13th hearing? >> We have zone.
>> We have July 8th. Um, we have um it's not terribly full. We have July 22nd, August 12th, and then August 26th. >> So I guess I guess Angela, would you rather go to the 22nd or the 12th in order for Hawks to get what they need
done? >> Um, I can't really answer for them. >> Why don't we continue to August 12th to be safe? >> Okay. Yeah, that's I was going to suggest that. So, can we >> I assume they would probably welcome the extra time.
>> Okay. Um, so we need a motion to continue to August 12th. >> I move that we continue 270 Stage Island Road to the meeting on August 12th, 2026. >> Second. >> Bob, >> I >> Eric, >> I
>> Janet I. >> And I say I. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Thank you for your time. Okay, the next please. >> Next up is a notice of intent for 50 Chase Street. Owners are Maria D and
James C. Anderson. Map 16C, parcel C8, D number SCE 10-3784. Uh this project proposes several land management activities including invasive species management and restoration of the coastal bank. Conversion of a
portion of lawn into meadow, regrading work following removal of a short timber retaining wall in disrepair, minimal expansion of existing driveway conversion, permeable pavers, and installation of an osprey nesting platform.
>> Okay, good afternoon. Um once again, Lauren Taylor with Crawford Land Management. Um I believe the applicants Maria and James Anderson are also in attendance in person today. >> Yes. So that's great. >> Um may I share my screen?
>> Absolutely. >> Okay. So here's the restoration plan. Um this project is at 50 Chase Street. Um it's directly adjacent to Mitchell River. It's also by Little Mill Pond. Um the resource areas on the property are salt marsh, coastal bank, um it's within
riverfront area and it's also within flood zone AE. Um so overall this project proposes several improvements to the property. Um most of them are restoration oriented or have some sort of ecological value. Um so the biggest
component of work is restoration of the coastal bank which is shown with this dot hatch. Um so we tried to document um the invasive vegetation on the bank uh based on what species were there and their relative prevalence. Um so that
kind of informed our reveation strategy. So some of the more prevalent species were shrub honeysuckle, oriental bittersweet, um porcelain berry, um and there's also a fairly large area of Japanese knotweed. Um, so we'd be removing any of those invasive species.
Um, leaving any native vegetation as it is. Um, and we'd be reveating the area with, I believe, 14 species of native shrubs. Um, so the diversity would be greatly improved. Um, and then as part of that removal, there was four Norway
maples um, out towards the street that we would be flesh cutting. Um, and those would be replaced in kind with native trees. um red maple to blow white oak. Um so that's the work on the coastal bank itself. Um in addition to that, the
applicants were interested in converting a portion of their lawn to native meadow. Um so that's this hatch with the sort of plus signs here. Um so we we'd just be removing lawn there and seeding this native meadow um seed mix. Um, and
that's a custom mix uh based on Cadam's native plant list. Um, so those were sort of the bigger improvements. A couple of the the minor site improvements they were looking to make would be expansion of their driveway. Uh, and really this was just
to straighten out the edge of it since right now it's uh it's not straight on one side so it makes it difficult to park. Um, but that expansion is minimal. It's only 137 square ft. Um, and they'd also at the same time like to convert that driveway to permeable pavers instead of aggregate, which is what it
is now. Um, just because it's a little bit easier to maintain the permeable pavers. Um, and then there was also this timber retaining wall here. Um, it's very short. It's only a couple of feet tall. It's in really poor condition. Um,
it it's not serving any function right now. Um, so we just want to remove that wall. Um, it's in the grade. it's so minimal, you really wouldn't need to regrade it at all. So, we would just kind of seed that area with the the restoration seed mix after that comes out. Uh, and then the only other aspect
of it was that the applicants would like to install an Osprey nesting structure. Um, so that's over here adjacent to the marsh. Um, and we've included specs for how that would be constructed uh with our documentation. Um, so that's kind of the project in a
nutshell. Uh but if there's any questions, uh we're happy to help answer those. >> Thank you. Okay, commissioners, anyone? Eric, go ahead. >> Yeah, I'd be happy to. I mean, you really should get an Oscar for this. Um the uh the the only the only thing I'm
questioning is I understand the three maples closest to the road, but the fourth one >> Yeah. >> Um I'd like to see that one stay. Um, I know you trying to get sun in there to get the planting established, but maybe if you li it up a little bit, it'll let
a little more sun through, but I really feel strongly about I don't know, it's up to everybody else, too, but I feel kind of strongly about leaving the fourth maple. Other than that, this is a you know, this is a great plan. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. I think Paul, didn't you say
that, too? >> Yeah, >> that was one of his things. Um, anybody else? I agree with Eric. The plan is absolutely beautiful. I love the addition of the osprey nest. That's going to be so much fun for you to
>> to listen and follow the the birds. >> Kudos to you. >> I just want to say we did check with the neighbors. >> Wait, just identify yourself. >> I'm sorry. I'm Maria Anderson. I'm one of the owners. Uh we did check with the neighbors about the Osprey poll because Osprey Young are very noisy and they're
like cool with it. I just want to let you know that we did uh we try to be good neighbors about because we like to watch them, but not everyone wants osprey chicks chirping at them all day. >> Well, we appreciate it. I love that aspect as well. Bob, go ahead.
>> Uh yeah, it's a wonderful uh plan and uh yeah, you should be commended on uh restoring the whole area. I got a few uh questions. Um on the ground cell tree you want to plant three and then you
have a a note over here 10% invasive high tide bush ground cell tree. Are those coming out or are they 10% invaded with invasive vegetation because it's kind of confusing. Below
that it says 90% invasive and then you have all the invasives listed. So I'm just kind of puzzled. >> Yeah. Sorry if that was misleading. So the way that we noted that is we put the percent invasive vegetation and then in the parenthesis we listed the
composition of what was there. I see how that's misleading. Um but to clarify, we would not be removing the high tide bush or ground tree. Those are native. Those are part of the 90% that's native that's there. Um so those would remain. >> Okay. Yeah. Could you revise that? Sure.
Um, and the cedar trees, uh, none are being taken out, correct? >> That's correct. >> Okay, that's great. Uh, and the the where the little wall is coming out, that's going to you say that's going to
be seated after it's uh graded. >> Yeah, that would be seated with the restoration seed mix. And and we don't really expect any grading is going to be necessary. The wall is so short and it's not really retaining any grade right now. So, we'd just kind of be removing it and then feeding it.
>> Is that like It's kind of steep there, isn't it? Where that wall is coming out. >> Um, it it's not too steep. Um, there's some pictures in our land management plan that show the condition of it, but you can see it. It might have been
retaining grade at one point, but at this point, it's there's not much behind it. It's just kind of a standalone and it's falling. So, >> right. Um it it's not holding holding anything right now. >> So you don't think it needs any erosion control uh blanket or anything like that
after seated? >> I agree with that. It should have. >> Yeah. So we uh as part of the restoration work, we would be covering the entire restoration area with biodegradable um matting. Um and since this is right adjacent to the restoration area, we can
definitely extend that that matting material to cover where the walls coming out. >> Okay. Thank you. I think that was it. Um I think that's all I had right now. Thank you. >> Anybody else?
>> Um just another comment. It's quite a uh impressive stand of notweed you got there to deal with. Um Lauren, so appropo what we were talking about earlier. The plan is to begin are you going to cut it in the fall and then inject it or and then leave it until
next year and keep doing that until the you reach the 80%. Is that >> uh so typically we start by treating the knotweed in the fall using the stem injection method especially because this knotwheat is larger. Um so we would inject it in the fall and then this
winter we would come back and cut it. Um, and the reason we do that is just so if you do it in the fall, it essentially moves the herbicide down into the roots and more effectively kills the plant. Um, and then we would come back in the fall to cut it. Um, you know, once it's transllocated that material.
>> You mean in the spring? I'm sorry. You inject it in the fall and then come and cut it in the spring. >> Uh, usually in the winter or early spring. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And and what is your anticipation of how long it's going to take to get to that
80%. >> Um for this site, I would say three years is completely reasonable. Um >> yeah, the this area of notweed is not quite as large as you know the other property we were talking about before. Y >> um so I think three years will be adequate.
>> Okay. And that's in glyphosate is what you'll use on the knotweed. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Um, and the the the three I think we're all in agreement about the Norway maples that the three closest to the road should go and the
fourth one I know it's an invasive but uh and if it's not if it's not causing any kind of problem for what you're going to be installing there >> could probably remain unless it has a I don't know does it have a suckering um problem like so many other
>> invasive trees do does it spread like other ones or if you leave it there. It'll just behave itself and not take over where the uh >> Oh, it's been there a long time. >> It's an old tree. It's a big old tree. >> It's got a lot of carbon stored in there. So, um leaving it is fine. So,
the other three will be flush cut. There's no root grappling or anything. They're just going to be flush cut and left >> because there's no I couldn't find any detail on the tree removal protocol. >> Yeah. No, we would we would flush cut those. Um we wouldn't be disturbing the roots at all.
>> Okay. Your client has his hand raised. Hello, >> James Anderson. 50 Chase Street. Um, the the fourth tree. Which one is it, Lauren? >> The one at the bottom, >> I believe. The 21 in >> the very big one.
>> Okay. Because there just making sure because there's one in the group that um was snapped in the storm over the winter. So, I think that's I'm pretty sure that's one of the ones that's being removed. So, >> I think so. Just >> Just wanted to make sure. Yeah, this is the one that's multiple.
>> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. That's all I have. >> Anyone else? Okay. So, I think we can go to an order, but we're going to need a new plan because of that fourth maple staying.
And then um I think you're going to clarify that 10% invasive note with the high tide bush and ground cell tree. Clarify what's going on there on the plan would be terrific. Um that's what you wanted,
right Bob? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Okay. I just >> Yeah. So that just to clarify. Um, anything else? Anybody? That's what I have. Okay. So, how quickly do you think
you could get a new plan that would reflect those two changes? >> Uh, they're so minor. I think I could do that very quickly. Uh, this week even. >> Okay. Uh, how soon do you want an order?
Um, I suppose we're not in a huge rush. The work wouldn't be starting until this fall. Um, so yeah, we're not we're flexible on that. >> How about what we do July 22nd? Would that work?
>> Uh, that sounds fine on my end, unless Maria or James have anything to say about it. >> Perfect. That gives us time to um given that it's summer. Um okay, we will have a motion to continue this to July 22nd
for an order, please. >> I move that we continue 50 Chase Street to the meeting on July 22nd, 2026 for an order of conditions. >> Second. >> Bob, >> I. >> Eric, >> I >> Paul >> I >> Janet >> I. >> And I say I. So thank you. We'll see
22nd. Thank you. >> Okay, the next please. Bradford. >> Next up is a notice of intent for 70 Hardings Beach Road. Uh the owner is Jonathan Welch. Map 9C, parcel M4, DP
number 10-3777. Uh this was for removal of existing patio, retaining walls, parking expansion, and construction of new patio. Uh continued from May 13th and June 10th, 2026. Thank you.
>> Good afternoon. David Clark, Clark Engineering, and Andrew Gerlay from Yarmorth to Design is also on the line. >> Um I trust you received the revised plans. Um uh
Andrew's here to to talk about uh or answer any of your questions regarding the plantings. That was your one of your concerns at the first meeting uh as far as what was being planted in the new uh retaining wall planters uh between the
house and the street. Um >> okay. >> If you have any questions for me, I'll be happy to answer them if I can. >> Okay, guys. Anybody have any questions, comments? >> I have a quick question. Sure. So David, when you changed the um the figures have
changed a bit. So the coverage figures on the site plan are revised and that's the ones that will go into the order. >> Yes. No. No change to to site coverage over what's existing today. >> Um I love that they're now planting
clover. That was an interesting change. Uh >> I was surprised, which is nice. Um, and I I think it's nice to see a a real change in coverage.
Um, I don't really have anything that I saw anybody. We love that. >> I just I just have one observation. Uh when we checked that out, David, also I
forgot to mention that there was a um an empty basket, a golf ball basket that you find on the golf range in the backyard. So it looked like someone was taking golf balls and hitting them into the marsh. >> Uhhuh. >> Oh, I think you did mention that and I
just didn't note it. I think I remember you mentioning something where it was another place, >> but it was it was empty. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't know if you'd want to relay that message to the >> We will >> to the owners.
>> Don't do that. >> Thank you so much. Appreciate that. >> All right. >> I've gotten many of oyster. An oyster with golf ball attached to it. So, >> yeah, that would be interesting. We'll know where it came from. Um, anybody
else? Anything? All right. >> I'm happy with it now. So I think and there was I think I don't know if it was mentioned but it will be in the order that there was um trash in the woods and backyard and um
>> Andrew mentions that on his plan. >> Yeah. And there's no mowing of the I know it was mentioned you're not going to mow the marsh grass. Um all right I think we can go to an order. How quickly do you want this? Um
>> well ZBA put on no work for the summer so um >> right >> so we we don't need it for July 8th but next the 22nd would be fine >> okay that's wonderful for us gives us extra time so
>> I move that we continue 70 Harding beach road to the meeting on July 22nd 2026 for an order of conditions >> second >> Bob >> I >> Eric I >> Paul. >> Hi >> Janet. >> Hi >> Elise. >> Hi. >> And I say I. >> Thank you. >> So we'll see you 22nd. Thank you.
>> All right. The next please. >> Next up is a notice of intent for 11174 Old Queen Anne Road. Owners are Timothy and Judith Richie. Map 6H, parcel 2A-T8, DP number 10-3783.
Uh this was request to demo and rebuild an existing cottage. Install new basement terrace at main house. Install a septic upgrade with IIA technology and install and and installation of mitigation plantings with associated grading
utilities and landscaping. This was continued from June 10th, 2026. >> Uh good afternoon. Mark Dib with Capen Islands Engineering. Uh representing the applicant at 1174 Old Queen Road. Uh with your permission, I'll share my
screen. So, uh we presented this at the previous hearing. Um a few items we've addressed. We there was a suggestion instead of uh reducing the amount of meadow and grass at the top of the coastal bank with
mitigation uh it was suggested to provide um invasives management on this side of to the east of the walkway. Um so we've uh reconfigured that. Um we've provided a updated landscape plan. Uh,
one note that came up during the ZBA process was that um, we were um, basically required to remove any of the uh, at grade steps uh, from
any areas below the flood zone line. So that note has been added to the plan. Um, I think it was there was really just one one uh existing step uh additional step and maybe there was two. Um, we're
no longer going to have those. Um, so we're meeting that requirement uh that was asked. Um we did provide an updated landscape plan um that shows the mitigation or the invasives area and
also to restore that area once the uh invasives are removed as well. I think there was um a couple typos or just mislabeling in the planting uh list that
I believe we've uh updated. Um, with that, I think that covers the changes to the plan and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. >> Great. Thank you. Uh, anybody want to start?
>> Go ahead, Eric. >> Hi. Uh, thanks for saving the meadow. Um, as far as the meadow goes, maybe this would be a good time to indicate uh how many times what do you plan on maintaining it, when it gets mowed. um time of the year. Uh how many times
are you going to mow it? Usually it's twice, but maybe some kind of indication hopefully that you'll maintain it. It's a beautiful little meadow. And thank you for uh trading the mitigation for the uh invasive control.
>> Yeah, I think we um accept a condition um of two times a year uh if that's okay. Uh that uh seems reasonable. >> It's also has the time of year that it gets mowed on the Okay. What are they?
>> Uh well, they're >> Well, not too early. >> Yeah, they're they're they're actually I don't think they've been stated on any plans, so I we'll just work through it now. Um >> yeah, I think once a little bit of growth in the spring. So,
>> well, it's also for hatchlings. uh so that small animals are all big enough to get out of the way when a mower comes through and usually um they can be active uh right in through you know through the middle of June, 20th of
June. I remember my father never let us do it until the 15th of July. Um so uh maybe you know indicate the later the better in the fall October is usually fine. Um,
from my experience, >> yeah, I I think we >> used to have meadows. Thank you. >> It' be amendable to a 15th of July and October time. >> That would be great. Thank you. >> We'll state those in the conditions.
Okay. Anybody else have any comments, questions? >> I have one question. >> Go ahead, J. >> Uh, Matt. So, um, yeah, I too think it's a better idea to deal with the invasive management, but we don't there's nothing
there's no detail about what that is, what what the invasives in there are and how you plan to manage them, remove them, eradicate them. Um
I I do know that the company that prepared this plan did walk the site and should have that information. Um we could provide a invasives management protocol. >> That's exactly what I'm looking for. I couldn't I didn't see one here. We usually have that.
>> Yeah. Um definitely need to do that. um whether or not it can be conditioned or we could provide it early enough to to you know be included into an order, we can we can work with uh staff and you guys.
>> Uh I think we'd like the protocol before we do the order. So um that will be uh dependent on when you can get that to us to be reviewed. Um anything else? That's
all I have. Thanks. >> All right. When do you think you could get us a protocol? >> Um, they should be able to put it together this week if we can. I do know the contractor does
want to move it along if if we can um put it together and continue to the ETH um and see how far we can get if an order can be discussed or not. But um >> well, we'd have to write the order to discuss the order. So, commissioners, um
how are we about writing continuing this to an order dependent on getting the protocol and including that in the order? buy one. >> I think we could um I think if we continued for an order to July 22nd,
that would definitely give enough time because we're going to have to review it and include information in it in our order. So, we need some extra time after we receive it. Um, how does July 22nd sound?
>> That's okay. Okay. Then if we could move to July 22nd for an order. And we do need that protocol as soon as possible. >> Understood. >> I move that we continue 1174 Old Queen
Road to the meeting on July 22nd, 2026 for an order of conditions pending the receipt of evasive management protocol. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> I. >> Paul. >> I. >> Janet. >> I. >> Elise. >> Hi. and I say I. Thank you very much.
>> Next one, please. >> Next up is a notice of intent for 42 Old Harbor Lane. Owner is Peter Harris. Map 16 I parcel 20-m uh D number SCE 10-3768.
Uh this was for a raise and reconstruct guest house with patio and stairs. Uh and to connect with connect to existing septic system. Uh, this was continued from March 11th, 2026. The applicant has requested a continuence to July 22nd,
2026. >> I move that we continue. >> I move that we continue 42 Old Harbor Lane to the meeting on July 22nd, 2026. >> Second. >> Bob, >> I. >> Eric, >> I >> Paul >> I
>> Janet >> I >> and I say I. >> Next, please. Next up are certificates of compliance. I'm going to read the next two in together if that's all right, >> please. >> Uh uh next up our certificate of compliance
for uh 54 Rland Drive. Owners are Timothy and Katherine White, map 13J, parcel AR4 S, D number SCE 10-2363. Uh this was for construction of an addition to an existing dwelling and
installation of utilities as well as uh D number SE 10-2367 uh construction of a singlestory addition to an existing dwelling and replacement of landscape timber steps with granite steps.
Um I did review both of these. um they seem to be uh well in compliance and um the mitigation area will also be revitalized with their uh current notice of intent application. Um so I think
these are set for uh approval. >> Do you want to add anything? >> David Clark for the record. No, I was just going to remind the commission that there's a active notice of intent on this. We're going to correct deals tomorrow and any issues that come up
>> for the past two can be re added to the right >> order conditions for the >> um >> current project. >> Anyone have any questions, comments for these two prop two uh >> orders? All right.
>> I move that we approve the certificates of compliance on 54 Roland Road as written. >> Second. >> Roland Drive. >> Second. Uh Bob, >> hi. >> Eric, >> hi. >> Paul, >> hi. >> Janet, >> hi. >> Elise,
>> hi. >> And I say I. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay, the next please. >> Next up is a certificate of compliance for 101 Oyster Pond Furlong. Uh owner is Edward Scopus. Uh Chadam Oh my gosh.
Cadam Oyster Pond Properties LLC. Uh, map 13E, parcel 25-R24, DP number SE 10-3586. Uh, this was for a single family dwelling remodel, front front porch entry and addition, second floor
addition, new walkway, new patio and basement bulkhead. Um, the applicant has has requested a continuence to July 22nd, 2026. I move that we continue the certificate of compliance for 101 oyster pond
furlong to the meeting on July 22nd, 2026. >> I'm sorry. I was going to say why is why do they need a continuence? >> Uh there are some unpermitted additions that need to be addressed.
>> All right, good enough. Second. >> Uh okay. Bob, >> hi. >> Eric, >> hi. >> Paul, >> hi. >> Janet, >> hi. >> Elise, >> hi. And I say I you threw me off when you did I was like whoops what am I supposed to do now. Okay Bradford next please.
>> I'll also read the next two in that's okay. Uh next up are certificates of compliance for uh 325 Foxill Road. Uh the owner is East Hoe map 10M parcel
2-1. Uh first up is SE 10-437 uh for construction of an existing revetment in Pleasant Bay and the other is D number SCE 10-1030 con uh for the construction and extension of an existing revetment. Um
both of these are quite old as you can tell from the uh D numbers. Um they were constructed um within you know, no issues. And uh this is part of a longer process of closing out o old
orders of conditions. Um and they'll be coming with a uh a new um shorefront management plan uh hopefully this fall. >> Great. I see Shan's on. So any comments, Sean?
>> Just just giving a quick overview. Uh for the those of you who are not familiar, uh Sean Riley, Tyen Bond, Coastal Engineering, and now Ty and Bond uh has been working with Eastwood over the last 40 years to design solutions for erosion that's happening along Pleasant Bay. We came up with a
management plan in 2011. Uh that was adopted. It's now 15 years old. Uh the management plan covered the history of erosion, um assessment of the beaches, monitoring, mitigation protocols, and much more. Uh, Ty Bond has had
discussions with the key stakeholders at Eastwood Hoe and had subsequent meetings with with Paul, Crystal, uh, Katherine Ricks and Bradford. Um, and we are going to be working with Eastwood Hoe to update that that plan. Um, and as part
of that, uh, leading to those discussions, eight open orders of conditions were identified um, for shorefront work going back to 1984. Um, and so we decided to to provide you with uh rather than all of them at once um uh
if there were any questions, we were going to do groups of two. So uh we've got a schedule that we're going to be uh adhering to to submit the remainder of these while we're working on that uh shorefront management plan uh to be filed as a notice of as a a notice of
intent. Um but the first two are uh related to the 15th green. Uh and as um Bradford noted, this is the plan from 1984. This was an upgrade uh in 1990. And as you can see from these photos,
the green uh the 15th green is behind uh this tree. Uh the revetments are in place, have been installed, and um are functioning uh properly. So, just to let you know what's coming down the road uh the next time you see me with the next
two. So, with that, I'll open it up to any questions you may have. >> Thank you. Uh, anybody have any questions? >> No, I don't. >> Thank you for grouping them and not having us do all at one time. Appreciate that. >> Yes, there will be more at the next.
>> Yes, look forward to each week. >> Yep. So, I guess we can have a motion to approve. Please. I move that we approve the certificates of compliance for 325 Foxhill Road as written. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> I.
>> Paul. >> I. >> Janet. >> I. >> Elise. >> Hi. >> And I say I. So, you're all set. >> Thank you. >> Next, please. >> Next up is a certificate of compliance for 8 Windmill Lane. Owners are Howard
and Igna Walker. uh map 16 16A parcel 22-h9 uh D number SC 10-3506. Uh this was for proposed addition to an existing dwelling in deck. The applicant has requested a continuence to July 8th,
2026. >> Okay. >> And so Eric doesn't have to ask you what is the reason for that continuence? Uh they are still working on the um >> issues and mitigation that we talked about last time.
>> I move that we approve the certificate of compliance I'm sorry continue the certificate of compliance for 8 windmill lane to the meeting on July 8th 2026. >> Second >> Bob >> I >> Eric >> I >> Paul >> I >> Janet >> I >> Elise >> I
>> and I say I the next please. Next up is a review of the draft proposed land subject to coastal storm flowage regulations. >> So we right under the wire heard from town council at noon today.
So there he does have a few comments which we'll go over. Um but first I would like to make a statement as to why we're doing this and felt it was necessary at this time. It's the third reading of these regulation modifications and in the first two we
received comments from many factions including Greg Burman, Chadam's natural resources director, He Maroy uh Cape Cod Commission, Janet Hol the deputy director and flood plane specialist for
Cape Cod Cooperative Extension and Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Crant. Carol Ridley from Pleasant Bay Alliance. Katherine Ricks, our coastal res resilience director, Thaad Eldridge from East Southeast LLC, and also comments
from Shawn Riley from Thai and Bond. Their comments were carefully considered and most were incorporated into the proposed modifications. After the first two readings, the modifications were sent to town council for these comments. Why were these necessary? I am sure
everyone is aware of what has happened at the weather station. Tim Wood at Chronicle has written many articles on the issues caused by coastal erosion and climate change concerns. A survey done by the climate action network and the
energy and climate action committee revealed to quote time Tim Wood local residents believe climate change is real and we are ready to support the town action to bolster resilience. Further, the findings highlight both Chadam's
strong foundation in its residents commitment to resilience and efficiency and the critical areas that require strategic focus, particularly around coastal protection and transi transitioning away from fossil fuels.
69% of respondents supported new or regulatory measures. The commission also received a letter from China Energy and Climate Action Committee. The letter encouraged conservation commission to quickly approve these new regulations. To quote
Robert Worth Sha Shaft's letter as chair, if one of the primary intentions of these regulations is to protect these vitally important resources, then is better a better policy to protect them now while there is an opportunity to do
so. The community resilience survey found that 65% of respondents felt coastal erosion was a leading concern followed by the threat of hurricanes and tropical storms at 45% and coastal shoreline
flooding at 41%. The D has proposed new coastal storm flowage standards that contain much of what has been included in these modifications that we are proposing. The standards should be passed within a the
year and when it does the modifications will have to be followed as well for ours. The Cape Cod Commission also along with Cape Cod Cooperative Extension and Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution has created a draft for
coastal resilience wetlands regulations for our consider consideration through a SNEP grant. Many of these recommendations have been incorporated in our regulations. This is not being done in a vacuum. Orleans and Harwitch
have joined Chadam in this endeavor. A presentation by all those assisting with the SNEP grant as well as our staff members Greg Berman and Katherine Ricks took place in January to kick off this effort and was intended was attended by
representatives from Orleans and Haritch Conservation Commissioners as well as Chattam's conservation commission and the planning board. Finally, one of the select board's goals and objections objectives for the next five years is environmental conservation, coastal
resilience, and natural resources. They say over the next five years, the town will integrate climate change projections together with decarbonization in initiatives to establish strategies to ensure environmental sustainability, promote
coastal resilience, and to protect natural resources. Hence why we took on this gigantic effort. Um it's not something we take lightly and this was a very large process which I very whole wholeheartedly thank Janet for. She was
the driving force uh way before we even had SNEP grant and has followed through and this is our first step. Um, now as far as what town council said, it was mostly adding the commissioner
commission may require in certain spots. And then there was one comment on page five regarding um prohibitions. And what he did was it said originally therefore
the following are prohibited in except as specifically permitted by conservation commission under the variance provision of the child wetlands regulations section 1.12. It's now he would like to see a change
to the following may be prohibited in such zones. So, um I think that that's that's the really the only thing that he truly changed. The rest were just sort of words smithing a little and I don't
think there's a huge issue. Go ahead, Janet. >> No, I agree. Um another way to think about it is that rather than the regulations creating absolute prohibitions, he's authorizing the conservation commission to prohibit
certain activities. Correct. >> Um while on one hand it's it's easier and clearer to be very upfront about it. Don't you can't do this and so we don't have to be making decisions every single time. But I get that he his point was that the the regulations cannot be
stricter than the bylaw. So he's pulling it back >> to authorize the commission to make these decisions. So there's a number of places where instead of saying this is prohibited, it's been changed to the commission may determine that no new construction. the commission may
determine um certain certain things can be prohibited or may be prohibited rather than are >> or may upon review. >> Yes. So, um he didn't have any um the only change he
had in terms of the um the provision that requires that after two instances of sub substantial damage due to flood. Um and I'll just read what he's changed it to. This is a this is D under
subsection 4D. Um, any structure that incurs substantial damage may be rebuilt to meet the current uh applicable requirements of FEMA, the building code, the zoning, etc. If the structure incurs substantial damage due to floods after
being rebuilt to all of applicable flood protection standards, then the commission may require that the structure shall be either moved landward or demolished. After moving or demolishing the structure, the site shall be returned to a vegetated undeveloped state. The commission may
determine that no construction of any new structures on the vacated land be allowed. So, it's authorizing and putting the the onus on the commission to do these um to make these decisions in these cases. Um
he did change a little bit in the definitions of substantial damage and substantial improvement. He added um the language that um we're under damage damage that has occurred as a result of any origin wear and he added it can be
demonstrated that the total cost of required repairs is 50% or more of the structur's market value and the same thing for substantial improvement um where it can be demonstrated that the cost of such improvement is 50% or more
of the market value um and I presume that that means that the burden is on the applicant to make that determination and then the commission makes the decision as whether it's 50% or not and and and and just in the interest of making sure we're telling everybody I
think he added a presumption in the preamble. >> Yes. >> Um where we had written a healthy coastal flood plane supports all these resource area values. He wrote, "And it shall be presumed that a flood the flood
plane will remain healthy if undisturbed," which I'm happy to add. >> I think what help is very helpful and uh the the biggest takeaway I have is that
>> we did pretty well. >> Uh he didn't find a whole lot that or anything major that to have an issue with, which thank goodness. So it actually while we thought we would have to continue this to the next meeting, we actually can approve them today if
everybody agrees. >> Um, any comments, questions at this point from anybody? >> Thank you, Janet and Karen. >> Huge kudos. >> Oh, thank you. I mean, it wasn't me. We
worked on this together throughout the whole process. So, and thank you to our our supporters. Yes. Who I see are online who have given us uh >> not just support but helped um in the drafting of these of these regulations. And uh we'll see you at town meeting
next year. >> Yes. And we have more work to do. >> Yes. >> Uh as commission because that move now on to the second step in this process which is a very big one. we have the grant to assist us with it and we're
very lucky. So, um we have a great group working >> and I know Orleans has already asked for ours. Um I don't know if we've provided them yet. Um >> I think Paul was asked. So I think after
this we could um reach out to Orleans and actually Harwitch and share with them what we've done. And I know that Orleans was is really very much working on it now. So I think we can help them
out by getting this going. All right. I think we can have a motion to approve the >> I move that we approve the revisions of the draft of the proposed land subject to coastal storm flowage regulations as amended at the hearing. >> Second. >> Bob.
>> I. >> Eric. >> Hi >> Paul. >> Hi >> Janet. I >> lease >> hardly I >> and I say I. Thank goodness. >> Yay. >> Yay. We can move onward and upward. Um I
appreciate it. Okay. The next thing please. >> Next up is a reorganization of the commission. >> Yep. Before we do, I just want to read a little something. Um I would like to thank all of my commissioners and my conservation staff, Paul Bradford, and
Crystal. You've made my job so much easier. Your direction and advice has always been appreciated. Crystal, all the work you did to improve the application process has made a huge difference in allowing us to have more control over the meetings and has given us the ability to hear properties
knowing that we have all the parts in our hands and which has allowed us to cut the number of times we have to hear a property which I am sure the property owners, representatives, and of course the commissioners appreciate. Paul, your guidance, Paul Whiteitman,
your guidance is always appreciated. You have such a wealth of knowledge that I appreciate it every day. I also very much appreciate all the times he has kept me and Paul Johnson in the loop. Bradford, I'm so glad that you've joined
our team. Your research on properties is invaluable. You arrived and you immediately began to contribute and I very much appreciate that. Paul Johnson, you have been an enormous help to me this year, and I know the commission is
in good hands. Your support throughout the year and enthusiasm is so appreciated. Janet, you have helped me in so many ways, as you always have. I appreciate your insights and abilities to deal with difficult regulation modifications. I also appreciate that
you have always stepped in and assisted Paul whenever I've not been able to be here. Bob, Eric, and Elise, I appreciate all of your expertise and depend on them. We have all all have our strengths and I'm so thankful for your input every
meeting. Bob, I know you will be an excellent vice chair and I appreciate your willingness to step into that role. Once again, I'm not going anywhere. I'm just stepping down and it I have to say it
does feel good after two years. So with that, I move that we appoint Paul Johnson as our new chair of the commission. Anybody want to second? >> I'll second that.
>> Okay. Bob, >> I >> Eric, >> I >> Paul, >> hi. Janet. >> Hi, >> Elise. >> Hi. >> And I wholeheartedly say I. >> Okay. And then the uh well, we all know
that the a captain taking over responsibility for a ship needs a first mate who uh provides a steady hand on the helm with them and an experienced first mate will be invaluable. So, we are we are so thankful, Bob, that you have agreed to step up once again and
serve again as vice chair. So, I am delighted to nominate Bob Delvecio to be vice chair. >> Second >> Bob. >> Hi, >> Eric. >> Hi, >> Paul. >> Hi, >> Janet. >> Hi, >> Elise. Hi. >> And I wholeheartedly say I. I very much
appreciate it. But we're all here to help out. And so, >> and we can't end this little funfest here without huge thanks to you, Karen, for leading this team for two years through some pretty tricky waters from time to time. And um the you know, we
have what a huge um improvement in in hearing management we've experienced. You know, we don't we don't fall down those rabbit holes and get lost anymore. We don't have hearings drag on for four hours. We It's been That's your down to your leadership. So, thank you. >> Thank you so much.
>> Well, thank you. It's not I can't couldn't be done without all of you and the staff. I mean, it's definitely is not done in a vacuum. We have one more item. >> Minutes to be approved from >> April 8th. >> April 8th, 2026.
>> Um, we had already reviewed them. We just didn't >> we couldn't vote because we didn't have a quorum. I remember. >> So I don't think anybody um uh needs any has anything. Do you Bob? >> I was absent.
>> Oh, okay. Yes. Well, we had people who were out. Um let's see. So it was myself and Bob were both out. That was why we didn't have the thing. So if we could have a motion. I move that we
approve the minutes from April 8th, 2026. >> Second. >> Bob. >> Abstain. >> Eric >> I. >> Paul >> I. >> Janet. >> Hi. >> Elise. >> Hi. >> And I abstain. Okay. One more motion.
>> I move that we adjourn the hearing. >> Second. >> Bob. >> I. >> Eric. >> I. >> Paul. >> Hi. >> Janet. >> Hi. >> Elise. >> Hi. >> And I say I. We are done. >> Good job everyone.