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oh [Music] [Music] [Music] good afternoon everyone welcome to the February 18 meeting of the chatam finance committee pursuant to Governor
Healey's March 2923 signing of the acts of 23 extending certain covid-19 measures adopted during the state of emergency suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law until March 31 2025 this meeting of the chadam finance committee is being conducted in person
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the posted agenda well this is a live broadcast and simcast on chadam TV despite our best efforts we may not be able to provide real-time access we will however post a record of this meeting on the town's website as soon as possible so we are going to continue today our
review of the proposed 26 uh warrant articles including the CPA articles sewer Capital articles the transfer station article and that's about it so with that roll
call time Tommy Don Tommy can you hear me here right up Barbara is not here John papalardo here Joan brg here Andy young here andras here Shields here Eric Whitley and the chair is
present so with that carry would you like to read us in or sure thank you Mr chair um so to today we have um the FY 2026 budget for Community preservation articles and we have the FY 2026 sewer
Capital articles and the FY 2026 transfer station article to be presented um we have the chair of the community preservation committee Gary tenan here and um I'll just go over a little bit
the budget requests for this year are 2, 358,000 35 that includes seven projects and one for the 10% to the reserve funds and one for uh funding the
administrative uh budget for FY 2026 um and Gary will go over the details of the budget welcome Gary uh thank you Stephen thank you Gary I'm Gary Tennyson the chairman of the chadam community preservation
committee um as you can see we're recommending approval of nine warrant articles uh this year uh all nine will total uh 2 million what is it $358,500
uh seven and we had unanimous uh committee approval for all seven of these um if those seven first seven are approved uh that would be a commitment of 1,923
35 which is really kind of the uh what we're uh committing out of our budget uh in addition to that uh we're asking for 15,000 for our administrative expenses and as Carrie mentioned um as
we do every year uh we're recommending that uh 10% of our annual uh Revenue be put into the reserve accounts uh for open space uh uh community housing and
historic preservation in order to meet the statutory requirements of the CPA act so we put those funds into the reserve accounts but then we turn around and take them out uh in order to support the uh other uh uh projects that uh that
we're recommending so it's a uh a little bit of a uh a double counting uh that leads to the figure of 2,3 358,000 there um so as I mentioned our um our
annual uh Revenue the reason we're putting 14 40,000 from each 420,000 total uh into that is that our annual revenue is 1,3 estimated Revenue
1,361 47417 uh so we want to put a little bit more than that in and that leads to the the $ 140,000 that we put into each of the reserve accounts um so should we go through each
of these one at a time uh I think if we could please Gary that' be terrific thank you okay uh so the first one is the uh affordable housing trust fund that comes up to us from the uh Department of Community Development uh we've been putting fun the CPA has been
putting funds into the affordable housing trust fund for the past few years in fact I think we're the primary uh funer of the uh of the trust fund um previous uh uh grants that CPA grants
that have been made have allowed the trust fund to purchase four properties uh in town uh that are all in the beginning stages now of being developed for affordable housing um this uh Grant of 500,000 will
kind of replenish uh the trust fund so that they have uh sufficient um uh funding available to respond to additional opportunities for uh uh purchase of land for affordable housing
uh Gary Joan please thank you Mr chair thank you Mr Tennyson uh what after we spend the 500,000 what would be our Reserve in the affordable housing trust how much money do we have in the bank um
Carrie do you have a more accurate figure on that I think it's about three million but uh if before or after we would spend this 500,000 I'll have to get back to you on exact numbers for where we are at but um
there's currently around roughly 650,000 in fund balance and then we're estimating 1,361 417 for estimated receipts so that leaves about $2 million coming in for FY
2026 we haven't closed FY by 2025 yet I think what she was asking was how much is in the affordable housing trust fund on the reserves no in the fund itself right yes after we spend the $500,000 what's left for the
future in the CP CPA reserves the affordable housing trust in the trust or well both I'd like to know both really I think when uh when Gloria mcferson presented this to us she indicated that
they would like to have somewhere between 2 million and 3 million in the Trust In order to respond and that this would I think move them pretty close to $3 million available in the trust fund
let me just take a look and I'll I'll see and we okay yes and just one more quick question how much does our sech charge bring us in every year Well it iies from year to year of course and
this year um it's 3% is what our um CPC is at set at but it does vary based on our taxes the the sech charge plus the state contribution I do have that figure yeah that's like the last year or this
this year the estimate is 1, 361,000 $417 which I think is pretty close to what it was last year uh as well okay all right thank you I will just briefly note that I think Gloria may be on the
call so Gloria if you are and have insight into the balance of the affordable housing trust fund that might be helpful or perhaps not all right Gary back to you please she's back do you want to take action on these
after I present each one or at the end do all of them uh I think what we'll probably do is give it some consideration rather than take a vote today give the committee an opportunity to to think about each of these things
given that there's seven of them eight of them uh and then we'll take a vote sometime in the next couple of days um or week and a half Carrie so I have the balance of the avoidable Housing Trust um it's uh currently 2,669
266 and that was at as of um January 31st and that's before the 500 that we that's before the 500 once the 500 goes in they'll have a little over $3 million that's correct yes thank you that's exactly what I wanted to know okay
you're welcome thank you everybody all right on to the next one um which is the stall neck uh painting uh preservation uh this application came to us from the jadam historical society
and there were requesting as you can see $48,000 to restore and preserve the stall neck paintings uh that are currently on display in the mural Barn at the at Atwood house um although the the paintings are are certainly very
attractive uh they are showing their age uh they are appealing uh and some of them are actually cracking and so they need to be cleaned uh they need to be professionally restored uh and they need new uh glass glazing
and uh and reframing um so the uh Society uh has identified professionals that can do this work uh it's slow and tedious work uh it'll be done uh off
seon uh and in a sequential form so the the paintings are at least a majority of the paintings will still be on display uh as they're working on uh individuals or a small group of the paintings um it'll take a probably a
two-year period uh for the professionals to get this work done I think um certainly our committee and I I imagine many of you consider those paintings to be one of the Real historic Treasures uh here in town and the committee strongly
recommends approval of uh of the uh grant for this purpose Joanne please thank you Mr chair yes Mr Tennison can you tell us who these professionals are and where they're from let let so we know a little bit
about their history and why we're choosing them um I cannot right off off the bat um who decide who makes the final decision the because those are very important and historical and I think we want to be very careful about
who we put to work in there yeah um I think the you know Historical Society uh is is going to be very careful um in in fact uh in the presentation that they gave to us they indicated that the
previous time that these paintings were restored they weren't done uh at least in the uh way that they would be done today with some of the uh newer techniques that are available um so they
certainly have searched and identified uh professionals that can uh that can do this work and it's it's the society that'll make that final decision well I think I'd like to be satisfied eventually as to who's going
to do it and what their credentials are and we can get you that information assuming that they've made the final decision okay thank you you know sometimes they like to these organizations like to have the money before they make a uh a uh final decision on these types of
contracts Kristen please thank thank you Gary can you just tell folks who might not know what these paintings are what the subject is well as I understand it that they are uh paintings of chadam residence uh that
were done in the 30s and 40s uh I believe so they have a real connection to the history of chadam not just that they were done by a wellknown artist who happen to live in chadam uh but that they also depict uh uh people in events
uh from from chadam history well and they're allegorical as well Alis stal whose son actually ended up who's painted a number of chadam subjects as well ended up as the head of the art department at UCLA um they algor excuse me allegorical one of which is Christ preaching to the
multitudes and there's Town residents representing all the various figures in these these murals and they're really rather remarkable notable um as someone who has a fair bit of experience in preservation of art collection uh I agree with Joan's point I think it would be interesting for this committee to
know and I can reach out to to the Historical Society um but I think it' be interesting for us to know the qualifications because not not all restorers are good restorers so uh given the content and given the amount I think it would be useful to know exactly who
they're proposing to use what their qualifications are so I can reach out to the society yeah just to repeat I think they actually learned their lesson the last time uh when they I think they went with
somebody uh more local uh rather than uh somebody from uh the Boston area who's uh has a real reputation in restoration of important paintings all right thank you all right any other questions on the stal
murals okay thanks J all right the next one is the uh reconstruction of the Nickerson historic Barn uh this application came to us from the Nickerson Family Association what they're doing is requesting a second
Grant of $275,000 for the Reconstruction and preservation of a a historic Barn which was owned by uh William Nickerson II who is the son of William neckerson I the
founder of uh of chadam it was built in the 7 1700s um the previous Grant which was for $300,000 uh enabled for the meticulous
deconstruction of the barn which at that time was at uh 68 shell drive then the components uh that were deconstructed uh were moved to the Nickerson Family Association campus on Orleans and
they've begun the process of uh of putting the barn back together uh and restoring the barn uh in this grant will allow the continuation of that process uh they're doing this in a way that
basically replicates the original construction of the barn uh so all of the tools that are being used and all of the methods are being used are the same ones uh that were used in the 1700s
so they've identified a a lead Carpenter and and his assistants who do this kind of historical uh work so where there was a wood Peg joint there's going to be a wood Peg joint and that Peg's going to
be uh developed using the tools that uh uh Carpenters would have used back in the 1700s they're going to document that whole process uh and it's become become a educational tool uh that's used in the
barn to show people uh how it was done back then and uh how the uh how the uh Barn was put back together um with the the funds from this appropriation so I think once this is done it'll become a a
key historic attraction uh in chadam and it'll become a educational tool uh for uh our residents and uh and our visitors and we recommend the um second phase of funding for the
second phase of this project thank you Gary Tracy please thank you Mr chair so will this be a public space for people to come in and does is it then going to need to be manned by anyone or it'll be just open
to the public well the you know the Nickerson Family Association has the well I think what they call it the calib house on their campus now and that's open uh for
visitors and they can learn uh about the Homestead at that time and the original founding of of chadam and this will just simply complement that it'll be a it'll be a space for meetings uh for uh educational programs
and uh yes it will be open and because this is you know the the funds are coming from C PA it will have a deed restriction on it that means that it has to be maintained as a
historic um property uh within chadam so it'll be historic but it'll also be open and it be a educational facility Christian please thank you um what's the overall cost of putting the barn back together
what in other words does 275 take care of that whole thing or is there is the project um more expensive than that no the project is more expensive um the Nickerson Family Association has already committed
$50,000 uh to the project and we made our the point in our discussions with them that our funds need to be used only for those components that are components of the project that are hisor for
preservation so for example they're going to be doing landscaping uh of the area around the barn um some of the electronics that are going to allow it to be used for an educational uh purposes that will all be
funded either by the Family Association or they're probably going to seek some additional uh Grant funds from other sources so our funding is really restricted to the historic preservation components of the
project and I would suspect that uh that well over another $100,000 is going to be required to complete the other aspects of it thank you Gary all right the next item is
restoration of headstones at the uh Union uh Cemetery uh this application comes to us from the town's Cemetery department and the chadam cemetery commission and as you can see what they requesting requesting is $50,0 35 to
restore 127 historic headstones at Union Cemetery and they've already identified all those 10 uh 27 headstones and we have a whole list of them uh in their application uh this is the second phase
of a long-term project that the uh chadam Cemetery commission has to really restore all of the historic headstones uh in the chadam cemeteries so a previous CPA Grant uh allowed them to or
enabled them to uh to do that at Seaside Cemetery uh and uh I think the the results at Seaside cemeter are quite uh quite spectacular actually uh you kind of almost didn't notice it
as you came into town uh previously but now as you come into town you look up on that Hill uh and you see all those kind of glistening white headstones up there and I've walked around up there and uh uh actually fascinating history to uh
see who is there and the kind of the relationships of uh of some of the uh uh people from uh chadam uh history uh so this particular Grant uh will uh move the them on the same people that did the
uh restoration uh at Seaside will continue to do it at Union Cemetery uh and I suspect we'll uh we'll probably receive an application next year or the year after to move on to an additional Cemetery Gary is this predominantly
cleaning or is it repairing Fallen stones or it's both how extensive it's both so in some cases they're fallen over or they're actually broken into and there's ways that can they can restore that uh but uh a lot of it is cleaning
that you have that kind of orange colored uh uh fungus that gets onto those stones kind of depending on whether they're granite or some other uh U material um that's helpful thank you
yeah but again it's a a real professional that's doing the work and it comes out quite nice all right salt mares all right so those are the kind of the three history ones we're going to move on now to to three
that are uh open space and Recreation uh the first one uh being again continued support for phase two of uh field studies of the salt marshes in uh in
chadam um the salt mares in chadam are one of our major natural assets uh but they're also a fragile asset uh and they're under threat from climate change and sea level rise associated with um with
climate change and so uh a previous grant that we uh the CPA awarded to uh basically the um natural resources department along with the climate uh the energy and climate action committee Ena
them to uh hire the center for Coastal studies in Providence to uh conduct field studies that that projected what the impact of sea level rise and other climate change would be on those Sal
salt marshes uh in that initial study it was F four salt marshes on the Nantucket side of chadam uh and uh to put together a plan that will help to preserve those salt marshes going forward uh that study is
nearing completion uh and uh this funding will enable them to uh to do similar field studies on the kind of the nine remaining uh salt marshes uh in chadam
and that'll include Muddy Creek Fish Creek strong island and six others um so uh we were pleased with the results of the initial phase and recommend support for phase two and that should uh pretty
much cover the salt marshes in chadam and finish the project Tracy please thank you Mr chair once the recommendations are received who then will be doing whatever the mitigation I assume efforts are to
preserve the salt marshes yeah well you know the application comes from the natural resources uh Department uh and the energy and climate action committee so it really kind of becomes the uh Town's uh
responsibility it probably will be related to the actually the next uh warrant article that's up there um the town is going to be putting into place this open space and Recreation plan one
of the primary reasons for doing that is in order to tap into State funding uh and so I'm sure it's the on the town's agenda to try to uh find whatever sources of support that they can from the state or from other sources
in order to implement the plans that are result uh from this study I knowe that Kristen has a question but just tangential to that before I move on from Tracy's question um Town manager is here as well as the head of Natural Resources any
observations on Tracy's question about how the town is going to respond to these reports and the recommendations therein Greg Burman welcome Greg hi thank you Greg bman your director of Natural Resources
so this first phase amongst the four marshes along the Nantucket Sound Shoreline it's primarily a vulnerability assessment a feasibility assessment and some recommend commendations for what can be done to those marshes this next phase does the rest of the marshes in
chadow and comes up with a prioritization system so seeing that's really why we have to do the rest of the marshes before we start prioritizing um and once we have that we'll get a feel for you know the level of effort the level of Effectiveness you
know how long at what cost can we preserve some of these marads what are the methods involved and really that's where the rubber hits the road to see where we're going to be using the methods in these marshes so you know once we have the results of all these it's going to make for a much more
comprehensive package that we can take to Grant agencies and if nothing else there might be some you know lower hanging fruit whether it's you know uh you know public and committees coming up with potential bylaw or regul regulation
recommendations that don't have immediate direct costs versus you know some of the more alternative things like thin layer deposition that the state has some new guidelines on and we might be exploring in the future if that's what's recommended by
this that's helpful thank you Kristen please thank you um so I guess probably for you Greg um and the preliminary and the first study are we is one of the I'm assuming one of the recommendations might be for open space preservation for
salt marsh migration um and if that's so have we already kind of gotten inkling whether that's there's land to be still preserved for that purpose which seems to me um another open space CPC CPA
article in the future yeah I think that's you know one of the rationals for how this you know fits under open space for for other reasons also because it can identify areas that might be you know purchased in the future for salt
marsh migration Pathways that was one one of the methods this was identified in the initial proposal in the initial study and actually uh later this afternoon is our first presentation by the center of coasta studies to the energy and climate action committee so
hopefully we'll be getting a a flavor and the report will be within a few months all right carry back to you please thank you Greg okay the next uh Warren article which is quite relevant to the previous discussion
uh is the town of chadam 2025 open space and Recreation plan so this application uh came to the CPC from three town departments uh Community Development community services and natural resources
and what they're requesting is $50,000 for a townwide project to develop a seven-year town of chadam open space and Recreation plan so this would be uh as they say a
townwide effort um they will hire uh an experienced consultant uh to work uh with the town on this and they'll seek as much input from uh the public uh in developing this plan as they as they can
receive um the resulting plan uh will then be submitted to the state executive office of energy and environmental Affairs division of conservation Services
um once that's approved by that division it'll make chadam eligible for state grants um there's a lot of these state grants that require a town to have such a plan uh and then hopefully uh the town
will be able to apply for some of those grants receive those grants in order to implement the priority ities that exist in this in this plan and which may well involve salt marshes Christen
please thank you um I was around working for the town when we had our first open space plan and uh the same amount of money was uh set aside for that plan um so my first question when I saw this is
how confident are we that we can get somebody for 50,000 to do a comprehensive open space plan or is this just building on the old one which was never finished which was just a draft yeah I've actually seen that old
one and have uh have used it on occasion um what they indicated to us in our in the application was that they'd already received a uh a bid uh from one potential consultant which was higher
than $50,000 uh and they we going to seek additional bids and thought that it they might come in at $50,000 uh but if not that there was sufficient funds in each of the three
departments uh that they could Pony up uh enough to uh to meet the uh additional cost I see Katie Donovan from Community Development approaching the microphone thank you Mr chairman um again Katie
Donovan director of Community Development uh we had sought a quote from a consultant to get an idea about what it would cost um the quote that we received I think was for $64,000 we had also reached out through um the mass planners list serve and what
other communities are paying um communities of similar size were somewhere between 40 to $50,000 so we felt confident that asking for the 50,000 if we needed to um each submit a or um put in a small
amount to hit that 64,000 that we could do that so we feel confident that we can get it done for that amount Christian please thank you I'll just offer a comment that that was a long time ago and we did the first one and we were just getting computers so I would imagine perhaps there's a savings now in
the digital age thank you than I might add that there is a lot of information in that first one which will make this one uh somewhat easier at least something to build upon John petto thanks just curious
um the open space plan is it considering affordable housing space too I me H how are those affordable housing initiatives and open space initiatives being uh measured against each other who's making the decision and is there a prioritization at the state
level for funding right I presumably this is is being done as a first step to unlock state grants for open space at the same time the town and the state have prioritized affordable housing so I'm just wondering at what point do these two
plans come together and tradeoffs are evaluated how about you take that one thank you um so of course we will always have competing priorities um that's um but it's something that we you
know we need to look at both and there are some initiatives now where um there are groups that are looking at kind of a combination of open space and affordable housing maybe a smaller more dense development with some preservation
of open space um this plan I don't believe has any um requirement to address anything related to affordable housing they are two separate plans they're two separate and competing priorities um there's as we know that
there are there's land that's appropriate for housing and then there's land that's more appropriate to be preserved and I think that we need to look you know as we go through this process there is a very robust Community engagement process that needs to happen and we will hear from the community
about priorities um through that process um so again they're always going to be competing I think that's something that we see um but if their priorities but they're both priorities for the town and I think that we need to you know follow what the state requirements are um to
make the plan um what it needs to be for us to be able to seek those grants John please is there a stated Target for open space percentage of the town to be preserved not that I'm aware um I had
worked on a plan in a previous Community many years ago I don't recall that ever being something that we need to it not like the 10% for affordable housing it's not you know we don't need to get to a certain point for open space but the other part of what this plan does um is
it helps us to prioritize work that needs to be done on existing conservation land work that needs to be done on existing Recreation land um and park facilities as well so it helps us to you know prioritize it's almost like a road map of what we would like to do
not only with future Parcels but with Parcels that and parks that we already so this plan will be looking at our current inventory and making recommendations as well yes thank you Andy do you have your hand up all good Joan please thank you Mr chair I'm not
sure I understand um what this plan will show us does it show us open space or land that can be purchased by the town uh for open space it show us it can show us Parcels that we may want to
prioritize for open space purchase but it will also look at what we currently have preserved and look at plans for perhaps Trails or maintenance um and not only conservation land but also Park land um so if we need upgrades to any of
our existing Park facilities um it will it'll help us to prioritize those um as we move through that process as well through the community do we have any idea how much uh open space there is out there that's available that is that we don't know that it's
there or how much it would cost us is that what this this planning is going to tell us there this this plan will help us to look at what you know potential Parcels may be available or vacant um we may there may be areas um you know Parcels that are not for sale that that
may be a targeted priority for open space in the future so those are things that we'll look at with the consultant so the assessing Department doesn't already have this information or know know about it well they they would know which Parcels are vacant and which Parcels are not but they don't
necessarily know you know there it that doesn't necessarily mean that they're available for purchase or available for acquisition um by the town for open space preservation and they may be Parcels that have a house on them but they have a lot of you know they have a
large lot area and so there may be an area to either be preserved um in the future um or redevelop so those are things that we would be looking at as well okay thank you I might add uh I'm on the board of the chadam conservation foundation in fact
I'm the clerk uh and we'll be working the foundation will be working very closely with the town uh on this project uh because we own the foundation owns a lot of the open space the salt marshes and the like uh in town uh and we've
been looking at uh what's available as well and most of the open space that one might think about acquiring uh is a portion of a fairly
large uh estate if you want to call it that uh you know a three four five acre lot uh with one house on it where you might be able to if not purchase a portion of that land to keep it at open space uh to uh purchase or receive a
conservation restriction on a portion of that land and a lot of those potential pieces are actually adjacent to lands that the conservation Foundation already uh has acquired so they would be very
important from a kind of an ecological Corridor standpoint and that's the kind of information that will will hopefully come out of this study is identify those kind of priority pieces where you might actually approach uh a land owner and
convince them that uh uh there were certain advantages to them as well as the town and putting this into a a conservation restriction or maybe even um donating it or selling it to the conservation Foundation well I think
that sounds like a good plan to me if it can be accomplished through this so through this sort of plan or I think I think this plan will identify where those opportunities are all right thank thank you Tracy please thank you Mr
chair it seems although competing interests that that having a plan like this would help inform also sort of the housing plans in terms of properties that are best suited for one versus the
other to me although competing all of this sort of falls under under conservation in the sense for me affordable housing is an issue of conservation and conserving sort of the way of life the yearr round Community um
and livelihood in town as a value such as our preserving our natural resources and it seems the more information we have about the land that we have the better choices we can make of what's
best to be used for For What and using the data collected can help inform how you you develop a parcel for affordable housing such that the pieces of the parcel that can be preserved for these
purposes are outlined I would agree with that okay thank you Katie excuse me uh little Mil Pond Pier all right uh the Reconstruction of the little uh Pond uh little Mil Pond uh Pier that application
to us came to us from the natural resources uh division uh and the existing Pier uh on little Mil Pond is in bad shape if you've been out there you'll know it is uh and it needs to be uh completely replaced and
upgraded uh the estimated cost for this is uh $500,000 uh and the uh CPC committee recommends that uh the total amount be approved um they actually uh Greg actually ask us for
uh 250,000 uh as half of the cost uh uh and he was going to go to the town meeting to try to get the other half approved uh we actually had the funds in our open space and Recreation Reserve uh account
uh and uh he agreed that we could put uh uh the full amount in from the uh uh from the chadam uh CPA fund so so um you know once this is complete uh it will
support numerous recreational activities uh it'll also help with building resiliency uh into the coastline and I think be a uh a major asset for chadam so Gary is one who grew up
fishing from and playing on that creaky old wooden Pier is just going to remain a creeky old wooden Pier is it going to be a poured concrete structure like the Trap dock or which what do we what should we expect to see down there in the future well Craig Craigs assur
assured us it was going to be a a sturdy modern peer but I'll let him tell you the details on uh what it will be made from so it is intended to replicate the look and feel of what's currently there
we are undergoing the design and permitting of it right now that was funded through a wolfer quest so as part of that we'll get the methods materials that are are most cost efficient in additional to having the historic look and feel um right now we are exploring a
very minor increase in length uh just to hit a little bit deeper water um but not any large it really not crossing the threshold for a new chap 91 permit so it it should look very similar just a little bit
higher okay thank you she'll be be interesting thank you all right so that uh brings uh us to the end of the seven
applications uh that came into us that we are uh recommending and as I indicated before those seven total uh 1,923 35 uh dollars um we're also recommending uh
15,000 to cover uh the committee's administrative cost that includes every year there's a a modest clerical support but some years we have legal fees and surveying fees uh if we're going to uh
purchase land uh that can that can uh wind up being uh fairly expensive uh with regard to the the fees that we see so we asked for 15,000 uh we usually wind up spending somewhere between six and 7 ,000 and the remainder just simply
reverts to the U uh to the CPA account and then the uh final um warrant article is just that um uh warrant that we put forward every year in order to make sure that we meet the statutory requirements
of a 10% of the annual revenue going into open space historical uh preservation and uh community housing and as I said before that uh 420,000 actually winds up uh being we we
put that war in articles first uh so that the money's in the reserves uh if the town approves it and then we go ahead and use it uh to fund the other projects that are coming forward terrific thank you Gary further questions for Gary on any of
these CPC articles okay so Gary I think I'll I'll get up with Carrie and we'll kind of look at the schedu and figure out we're going to start scheduling our votes for next week um so it shouldn't be too long before we hear what the outcomes are but uh a really thorough and thoughtful presentation thank you
very much okay greatly appreciated okay so Carrie what are we going to do next we're going to do Wastewater we doing 32 million we doing the other one um thank you Mr chair um hold on one
second thanks Greg thanks Katie which one do you want to do first transfer station okay we will start with transfer station terrific hello Rob so we have Rob failey here DPW director and this is for um the transfer
station um article request and it's for um 3,400,000 and it's with um sorry $3 million use of free cash and $400,000 for um the tax
levy I will have turn it over to Rob to present to you the article welcome Rob thank you good afternoon Rob failey director of Public Works um go over the uh transfer station article for uh this
year um just I'll do a quick recap too just to tell you kind of where we've been I think you've all familiar with it but um it shows you kind of the progress we've made also so spring 2023 it was 4.82 Million was approved for construction uh phase one is the
recycling area that was the subject of our my presentation today uh phase two was the garage and staff building that was Priority One and that was um something that was uh furthered to construction uh so as of last year there was 215,000 remaining from the design
contract that we carried over so uh there was $5 M35 th000 available to do the two phases of construction so again phase two is the garage staff Priority One just yes thank
you Mr chair just before you go any further um we appropriated money before the 23 town meeting right that's correct can you give us an idea from the beginning how much we've appropriated
and how much we've invested so far I don't have that handy was 2019 I believe it was and I think that's important to all of us sure and I think it was originally $48,000 that was originally what year in
2019 and that was how much 480,000 and then the next appropriation um there was $4 4,820 th000 that was the appropriation last
year the original one was for design only design and pering yes so sorry so far there's yeah okay okay thank you five 5.2 appropriated so far correct over two
Town meetings so that 215,000 was still remaining from the original appropriation from 2019 so phase two is the garage which was Priority One to address uh Ada and safety concerns for staff was estimated at 2.1 million bids are opened in 2024
for 3.8 million um so we did award that contract to JJ cardosi um construction trailer is on site hazardous material abatement commenced um demo began in late September 201
24 um we proceeded with the concrete footing work um all the site utilities were completed Foundation walls have been put in um the steel erection now is complete um the foundation blocking has been put
in and we have started the building enclosure which is uh shown in this picture so we have had a couple of change orders as things uh progressed um some of them had to do with things that we weren't aware of like uh radon
testing we needed radon abatement um there were a couple of things that the planning committee the planning board wanted to see uh it came to um uh the underwater treatment for um the gutters instead of having him Splash out onto
the paved surface they wanted to bring those underground which was a was a great idea which we had thought of it earlier but it was a change order um and there were some other things like with the fuel pad that was part of a fueling station that we had built um they wanted to see some modifications for that and
just some other minor uh change orders that we needed to do one of those was um for site water that we had anticipated putting in under phase one um and then we we tabled phase one so um we had to do a change order to get some of that
water uh system constructed under phase two so then we also added um construction Administration uh bidding design design you know the final design some of the change orders owner's project manager material testing those kind of things added up to a little over
$336,000 so that's uh so that's where we are now so here's phase one uh this is the recycling area and I'll run through the numbers in a little bit more detail a little later on I just I wanted to give you just a brief overview um the recycling area was
estimated at 2.72 million uh you see bids came in last year at 3.17 million so we didn't have enough money to uh proceed with construction so what we did is we went back to design table um we looked for efficiencies to lower cost
you'll see that green enclosed area was the area of a a stump dump that was located um so we tried to minimize impacts to that area and with the revised design so um so we had interviews with
transfer station staff we looked at making more efficiencies with the uh vehicle traffic and also we wanted to make improvements to the Tipping floor we had received a number of complaints about odor and hygiene issues at the Tipping floor so we wanted
to roll those in while we had contractors on site and make that part of the next phase so could you just pop back to that slide for a quick sec sure can you just broadly explain what we're looking at I think we all generally know but what's what's
green looks like containers over on the left I've got a slide in here that I can uh highlight that a little bit better terrific okay so the Tipping floor is in the Big Blue building um that's where everybody dumps their Municipal solid waste and
the commercial haulers drop their waste um originally in 2020 there was an estimate of 1.22 million to uh rehab um that it was it was uh putting some compactors in some conveyors and things of that nature we reduced that to just
modifying the Tipping floor and you can see in the image on your right uh that's the condition of the Tipping floor today uh the rebar is exposed there are a lot of grooves and crevices in there that shouldn't be there it should be a pretty smooth um concrete surface so it's just
the wear and tear of years of use um it creates Pockets where bacteria grows odors and things can accumulate it's actually kind of nasty uh folks do we our employees do power wash it on occasion uh not so much this time of year but in the summertime we try to do
it at least once a month but as soon as they power wash it um the liquids stay there so it's a it's a real it's a it's a problem for us so here is a a brief side by-side comparison just to show um the difference between the as bid design and
the revised design and again I'll I'll blow this up in a minute so you can look at it a little closer um you can see that green on the left and red on the right is that stump dump area so we see where we tried to remove a lot of the construction impacts out of that stump
dump area but we are at a very restricted uh space you know there's only so much room that we have let me just uh so the Tipping floor is up there uh
towards the top of your screen that's the blue building uh this is the gate house this is where the uh scale scale is currently on that side of the gate house it'll be relocated to this side of the gate house and we just figured it was easier for people that were leaving to have a the
driver have a face-to-face interaction with the person in the gate house instead of having it through their passenger side window and then people have to constantly get in and out just trying to look for a few efficiencies as we move along uh the swap shop is relocated so it's outside originally the last design
it was right in here over the stump dump area this gives it a little bit more easier Ingress and egress because it's towards the entrance ramps it's not where we're coming in with the scale and everything we get that traffic um removed currently it's down here towards
the end of the recycling area so anybody wants to go to the swap shop has to drive all the way through the recycling area to get there and of course this is the recycling area so these are containers and compactors um you know traffic can come in this way they've got full access we
wanted angle parking we figured was probably easier for people to back out and pull in and then as you drive around um the same as on this side the same kind of containers are on this side so if this side is filled with vehicles folks can drive around and go to the far side and then these are all the other
like recycling textiles and um all the other various uh containers that we have there any and this is of course up here is H phase two that's the building that's being constructed now and all of this is just you know Mulch and brush and things of
that nature so it's really very little impact on the on the ground below it should I pause here for any questions or questions Andy please I just I was gonna say I mean that looks like a vast
improvement over what we currently have and incorporate some features that might prevent an accident has occurred in Barnstable a week or two ago right just you know Cor cars parked front to back
all right and somebody backing up into a a person who was walking with trash okay I mean it's just not I like the idea of the diagonal parking thanks thank you other questions or observations
Kristan I may have said this last time we discussed this last year but I appreciate the fact that you talked to staff I think we've got some great long-term staff there that really understand and have had a lot of thoughts about this all along so I'm glad they're getting a a a decent
building and um thank you for listening to and working with them thank you I mean they they see all the the challenges every day they live it every day so um who might have tell them it was very eye opening to to have
those interviews good Tracy please so this reflects like up above where the phase 2 is is where the like construction debris and all of that is yeah the difficult to manage area that's what we call it yeah
that's that that pad remains where it is today just as it is okay yes okay let's see the numbers the big reveal so here the numbers so um yeah this is kind of an overview of what we were just talking about before um funding that was approved the remaining
from design and then through the the different pieces of construction I did keep a um a 75 ,000 um potential a change order contingency for current construction just so we didn't short ourselves so um
so I'd say we have about 650,000 remaining and that's from the 2019 and the 2024 articles so then if we carry that over um the new estimate for construction is 3.1 million tipping Flor repairs are a
little over 400,000 we still carry the owner's costs um you know the Bing construction uh final finalizing design and a 5% contingency that brings us to needing 3.4 million to finish construction of
the transfer station questions or comments I've got one so given the recent operating environment Supply disruptions inflation our recent experience in bidding
projects why wouldn't we carry a 15% contingency or something just so we don't have to come back to this a year and a half from now and find it's gone up by 25% so we do have the benefit of having it go out to bid once previously right
so those are real-time numbers um you know under a year old and we did carry some contingencies in the cost it's a very conservative estimate yep so even though it's uh the line item is a 5% contingency I think we've carried enough in there with our conservative estimates
to carry a slightly higher contingency than that I wouldn't say it's necessarily 15% but it's probably closer to 10 okay you're comfortable with that I mean I guess I'm just sort of referring back to the 2.1 estimate which of course was not a bit it was an estimate and that landed at what
3.8 um 3 yeah 3.7 3.8 something like that so so I would just want to if we're going to go forward with this I would just want to make sure that we totally cover our basis so we're you know we can
finish this project and not have to take it back to town meeting in a year from now year and a half from now that's not my plan okay 344 looks and say 3400 um okay good Eric please uh thank
you um The Tipping floor repairs you may have giving us some additional detail on this but what does that actually mean is the whole thing coming out the building stays up obviously but what are we doing to the floor so they would have to keep it open uh during construction so we do
half at a time likely um in the offseason of course so we would uh we'd have to uh chip up the concrete so it would be you know get down to at least that that bottom layer of rebar chip it all out clean it and then put new rebar
down and poor new concrete so so half at a time so it it it does cost a lot more to do it that way but I think there's no other way to really keep it open during construction because it would have to concrete have to cure it would be a number of weeks probably closer to a couple of months to to get that rehabed
and is there anything different that we do this time to um have it stand up better as the years go on or is it just a reality of that kind of a yeah I don't I'm not familiar when that floor was originally installed I mean the the
amount of use it gets um you know it shouldn't get to this point before it's rehabed um yeah it's just a wearable surface you know concrete wears out with heavy use of loaders and you know scraping surfaces and things like that we do have
a rubber uh mat on the front of the loader bucket so it doesn't really scrape with like a metal bucket but it's still it's it's constantly being U weired upon Kristen that makes me want to ask a question then so when you're so when
it's completed and I assume there's still um some maintenance of washing down the area every so often where does that uh wash water go is there so we we have drains there and uh you know rotation retention Basin and um and with
that gets cleaned out periodically as well okay so is that something that has to get rehabed to or is that still function fun that's still functional I mean there there are some it's not just a flat slab you know there are some areas where they would have to form
concrete to different surfaces but um but that drainage system is fully functional right now all right for the questions on the transfer station if not Carrie where do you want to go the DAT exclusion article um I just want to note one thing um I
mentioned that it was 2019 for the first amount of 480 it's it was actually 470,000 and it was in 2020 it's in the staff report I just wanted to note that just so people knew did you say that
again sorry M 470,000 and it was in 2020 so it would make the whole appropriation of the 4.8 million and the 470 5,290 that's exactly what I want to know thank you okay you're
welcome um but wait there's more oh yeah that's just um stating um how we're going to be funding the transfer station article this this coming year at annual town
meeting 3 million of free cash and 400,000 will be raised and appropriated okay thank you you're welcome um Bob which one would you like to do next these are all all you I guess it'll be all Mark really
so um how about the capital sewer projects that's a shorter one maybe a little easier to get through sure um so we have a Wastewater Capital stabilization um warrant article and it
is for um $1,700 um this funding would come from the Wastewater Capital stabilization fund and have no impact to the tax rate um the current balance in the Wastewater Capital stabilization fund as of uh
January 31st was uh4 Milli 97327 um and the requests are $700,000 for stage Harbor Pump Station 200,000 for replacement of dtif dentification filters I can never say that word D
nitrification um and 170,000 for repairs of the original sewer collection system over to you rob okay thank you Carrie thank you um so we'll start with the stage Harbor Pump Station uh that was part of the original sewer system that's down located in the back end of
the Town parking lot behind the warfame theater it was reconstructed in 2014 and at that time it originally had three pumps uh when it was rehabilitated only two pumps were put back there were larger um pumps they were able to handle more cap capacity uh with the idea that
a third pump would be added once capacity increased to a point where that would be needed so we are about at that point now um especially if uh Cedar Street pump station I'll be discussing here in a few minutes uh but with that additional flow we'll need that third
pump at the stage Harbor Pump Station also includes some additional you know Electrical uh gear piping SK programming things of that nature so um design bidding and construction should be about $700,000 Kyrie's favorite is the next
the denitrification filters air system oh I'm sorry Andy had a quick question I'm mean the stage Harbor Pump Station if you build Cedar Street then what that inflows to that stage Harbor Pump Station correct and the stage Harbor
Pump Station goes what to the Force main that's the Force main to go straight to the wpcf okay all right and there's like five Force Mains around town that uh different pump stations pump directly there we have uh capacity for I think a
six more um so we'll be kind of talking about that some of the critical pump stations that we'll be adding in the future years yeah okay I I just I was trying to piece together the jigsaw puzzle in my head yeah yeah that CR Sage Harbor pump station is a very critical
Pump Station yeah thank you so the denitrification filters air system it is difficult to say so it's a it's a critical part this is at the water pollution control facility um where effluent comes in and
you were trying to remove nitrates um it's it's done with uh through an upflow filter um I don't claim to know all the details the day-to-day details but I know it's with sand and compressed air sand is the media uh they and they push the effluent through with this
compressed air and the sand scourers it and it removes uh some some of the nitrates that are uh common to leeching into groundwater so this is the uh this is the compressor that needs to be replaced um it's it's pretty old um it's just
part of our um planning phase to get things uh keep things up and running as they should be uh so it's $200,000 roughly to replace the air system it's a very large compressor and finally is uh the annual request
$170,000 to replace deficient sewer pipes and rebuild manholes I know especially on Route 28 they take a beating and it seems like we're out there just about every couple of years replacing a lot of those or rebuilding them uh so this fund U this article helps support
that so this is the draft article appropriate available funds from the waste water Capital stabilization fund for 1.0 7 million um for those purposes curious I'm sorry
car can you look back to that last slide for a minute about no about the cost the the next one next oh the this one yes that one please hang on just a minute well while Joann's reading that
carried has the select board voted on this no they vote tonight okay so we'll hold off then okay thank you Andy please what will be the remaining balance in the stabilization fund after
this um roughly 3.9 okay great thank you you're welcome okay further questions on the draft article what it's going to attempt to accomplish okay thanks Rob
next okay and the next article is for the comprehensive Wastewater management plan um in the amount of $32 million and that's for borrowing um 30 million for um Wastewater and a $2 million request
for grinder pumps Okay so just do a brief overview of uh where we've been um so phase one is the darker blue uh approximately 4500 parcels and there's a reminder phase one was initiated to uh Target nitrogen
reduction phase two is the lighter Blue Area um approximately 2,300 Parcels um and that was to address the sewering the rest of town uh the area in red are areas of sewer that the town has already completed areas in green are areas that
are either under construction or in design right now since 2010 118 million has been spent on completed sewer projects Rob before we jump into current construction do you have any details on
connections within the um what was it the the green area the red area for well in terms of notices notices just patched by the town and connections kind of notices complied
with well for all the red area notices have been sent out some of it was the existing sewer system that was downtown on Main Street some of it is areas that it's been um expanded some of the green areas we are on the cusp of sending out notices working with the Board of Health
to send out notices um but that's only a partial green area all the red areas notices have been sent out already do we roughly know how many notices that is and how many have been complied with um we do I don't have that with me but we uh we I'll put on the list and we can
track it down I think we'd be most interested in that thank you Joan when you send out the notices the the demand notices um do you send information about what uh programs are available for them
to borrow money as far as borrowing from the county and the other way is uh through the state you can file uh a reimbursement for for money you've spent on a mandated sewer or or septic system
that's schedule Z and I I I keep mentioning that every year and I never see the town say anything about that state it's a it lasts over four years it'll give you a fourth reimburse of the on it's a tax credit let's put it that
way does the town do any uh information to the people who need to connect so the the Board of Health sends out those notices and you'll have to forgive me since I've been here we haven't sent out any because we're like I said we're on
the cusp of sending some out so I I don't know exactly what's involved but I know we are working on kind of a public information campaign to get that information out there yeah I think that would be helpful to a lot of people I don't think many people know about the state uh tax credit for
it well I appreciate that so for current construction activity um I'll use my pointer here uh 1 d2a is a cc construction just is just doing their punch list item that's the pump station on twinfield and another
one on Meeting House Road and covers um meaning House Road and Middle Road and a portion of M Hill Road um again that's that's just about um completed now um 1e2 is the Old Mill Bo Boatyard sewer
extension that's in here down in purple it's kind of hard to see but that covers old um stage Harbor Road and there's a pump station down by the harbor Master's garage that is being worked on most of the road work is done we're just completing the pump station hopefully
we'll have that up and running in about six months or so and all those notices will go out as well at that time 1 C5 is in blue here that's the um oyster Pond sewer extension CC construction has that job um it's not encompassing all of this
area but it's a a good portion of it and then the mil pond pump station which is a adjacent to the pier that uh they're looking for funding for um that's a 50-year-old Pump Station that we're refurbishing that should be done we're hoping it's up and running by the summer
so for the next phases of implementation We are continuing to address uh nitrogen loading and growth um in the short term we're looking at expanding some of our gravity systems and long range plan is to address pump station locations and
these are some of the areas that we're looking at and I'll break them down individually as we go forward uh so Phase 1 F1 uh funding for this article would include uh design bidding and construction um there's a a pump station on Cedar
Street that we want to uh install and complete um we'd look to put that out to bid uh finish the design sometime this fall put it out to construction uh in the spring of 26 this is the area for 1 F1 on Cedar
Street the pump station is on a propose on a town-owned parcel in this little triangle here and it would address um sewering the entire area in pink approximately 69 Parcels this Pump Station would be
critical to pick up all the other areas closer to the water from there that would pump up to Cedar Street Cedar Street would then pump up to Stage Harbor also in Phase 1 f is uh we want to tie in some of the smaller gravity neighborhoods that were passed over
previously uh this here is Route 28 it's served by grav all throughout um so all these areas all these areas in green are all neighborhoods that we can easily tie into the main trunk line um they wouldn't need grinder pumps um there may
be a couple of parcels here and there that um are lower than the road but for for the most part it would all be a gravity system those are the two areas are Phase 1 F1 that we would like to uh promote going to Construction in
2026 there's also Phase 1 F2 which includes um this article would include design bidding and construction although we may have to PEC meal the construction depending on where we are and what bids are coming in at for the 32
million this would be uh this is the Oyster River here oyster Pond would be up in here so this is the the Barnhill Road area um think is a yacht Basin here and another Boatyard down here um so
it's a mix of gravity and low pressure our biggest challenges here would be locating pump stations um that's kind of been our challenge all along is trying to find uh suitable locations for pump stations um again another 87 Parcels
this uh is Harding Beach Road that would be an easier area because we already have a pump station at that location so this would be tying in gravity to that pump station also as part of 1 F2 would be the KD Ford area this is George Ryder Road here on KD Ford in this
neighborhood we would propose a small Pump Station at this culdesac and then the rest of it would be through gravity there's an existing Pump Station down here off at George Ryder road so looking even further ahead uh we would go out and look for srf funding in
2027 possibly around a $40 million request to address uh water going into Pleasant Bay so sewershed area 20 which is this yellow area here would house Pump Station 20 and that's another critical Pump Station that would be directly
piped right to the water pollution control facility um off of 20 there's a lot of neighborhoods that would like that would be the Lynch pin for all of those areas so area 17 and 18 of these areas in blue that's where the middle school is
Enterprise Drive commercial uh area uh they would all pump into Pump Station 20 and they would they would follow suit just after Pump Station 20 area was developed looking even further down the road all of these areas in green would
all go to Pump Station 20 so you can see how critical Pump Station 20 is to kind of that whole Shore Road uh North chadam Area to make that successful and two years in the future from that one um 2029 srf request we
would be looking at Pump Station 73 which would uh sewage this area in yellow here again the area adjacent areas in blue would be soon after that and then the areas in green would be soon after that so another critical Pump
Station to to try to develop um in that area so this is the draft article for 32 million design renovation and construction for the various projects um I can keep this up here I don't know if you want me to read it but um I can I've got a couple more slides
to get through um I don't think you need to read it I think we can take our opportunity that's also in our our package um but Rob if you get to the end of 1 F2 which I think covers is covered by the 32 million that's being
requested you mean on the slides or back yeah what you're phase one F2 yeah so if you get to that point do you have any sense of what percentage of the buildings in town will be on the sewer once all those connections are
made back in the envelope yeah no I have to crunch some numbers for you but um okay it still would be it would be less than half less than half okay all right other questions Andy um I
think how much of this is still being driven by what may be a watershed permit germination a lot of it okay I that's I mean my understanding of it is that the state essentially is
saying we are generating too much nitrogen for all the coastal embayments here some of them more so than others and so you know in closed embayments presumably need to be addressed sooner than you know wide open
ones uh that are you know subject to the famous you know dilution uh of our Tides but you know is there is that tie in in any way to the way it's phased yeah absolutely so so the area
the reason why we switch to um the northern the Pleasant Bay embayments because the way our uh comp our our comprehensive Wastewater management plan is written um after so many years I think it's 15 years um the points that
you apply for that that you're eligible for for the intended use plan they start to drop off so we want to make sure we're going to be viable for for the future so instead of you know staying on our Southern Coastal embayments the way we've been developing
sewer we're focusing shifting our Focus to the north for about a five six year period and then we're coming back to the South when our new comprehensive Wastewater management plan will be written and approved any any um any forecasting from the state as to what
that might look like not at this point no yeah okay right because I mean they've been playing around with the idea of requiring you know denitrifying septic systems and you know I mean very broadly right across the cape and so far we've
managed to to dodge that bullet amongst other things because we have this sewering program that we started so many years ago and still have so many years to go yeah and and it and it affects so many different levels you know affects
you know every every septic system is dumping posos into the groundwater you know because we can't it's in everything we use every day and so you have all these little hundreds and thousands of little possible posos contaminators out
there with with every individual septic system so you know it's so many different levels impacts that we have to really keep furthering this along well it's certainly is noticeable that our Coastal Waters have
deteriorated significantly and you know this is as aggressive as we have been in following this program you know we're probably you know 30 years behind the ball be a guess right we're we're in better
shape than a lot of our seric communities but yeah it doesn't happen overnight no it doesn't all right thank you you're welcome Che in please thank you Mr chair I think this is wonderful uh I I think the soaring is just a
barely a second to fresh water fresh water for the town in importance and to keep our mind on what it's going to cost us the fact that we don't want to bag down because it has to be done and be able to compare this cost and the
importance of it versus other costs that might come along the way but this presentation is excellent and I want to thank you for it thank you appreciate it okay further questions or observations Rob if not I'd like to just have Carrie
U walk us through a little bit about kind of how this works from a perspective financing perspective and debt exposure and service and the financial end of all of this is It's kind of currently envisioned sure um I
just want to um answer Joanne's question from earlier about the properties um for completed sewer construction contracts to date there's 823 plus properties have been ordered to connect um we're able some properties have connected due to
septic system issues or new construction on a Case Case by casee basis um 6 46 connections have been completed to date uh that is 78% rate of connection um there are an additional 166 properties
in process which have either applied for a permit awaiting a permit or awaiting a contractor and that's also in your budget book that um that you have received as well under the Wastewater project so I just wanted to make a note of that thank you thanks a lot you're
welcome just just one note side note note that does not include the original sewer system in town that's since 2013 okay good to know thank you um all right so $32 million 30 million will be applied to
the srf funding which um so srf funding we sometimes get um subsidies so it could be less than $30 million obviously so we don't know that amount until we actually apply and get the
funding and go through the whole process um so then we get a pre preliminary loan schedule which sits on our debt schedule under short-term loans for like a year until
we finally get a final schedule from the Clean Water trust um it would be a 0% loan for the $30 million so there's no interest that we would have to pay on that um on a $30 million note for 20
years that's $1,500,000 each year but again we don't know what our subsidies would be so it would probably be a considerably a lot less than that on a $30 million note the
$2 million note um that would be for the grinder pumps that's not eligible for um the srf funding um so that would would be I have it over here somewhere for a 20-year loan note at
which is high I'm going to estimate at 4.5% and that's that is high right now um on the our current evaluation it would be um $90,000 for the first year that would be
principal would be $100,000 and interest would be around $90,000 um it would be um 16.2 n on a a million dollars single family home so
it's and then on a $1.5 million home it would be 2444 on the tax rate and this is for this is just for what2 yeah this is for the full amount though this is if we bought for the full amount
it would be two cents on the tax rate any anticipating straight line amortization of the principal a million dollars a year for 20 yeah it would be $100,000 100 of course yeah yeah yeah okay thank you you're welcome go through
the tax rate part of it again please so the tax rate uh increase on the average tax bill would be $16.29 okay thank you you're welcome and um where are we relative to the select board and
the water water Commissioners and the grinder pump and other various recommendations have been made hearings have been held it's tonight they're just to be clear they're voting tonight on whether to subsidize the acquisition of the grinder pumps for those who need them in town
yes all right thank you Carrie you're welcome is there any other questions further comments or questions okay well we've got a little show tonight here at 5:30 at least I do um and uh I
appreciate all the input on the report it's very helpful um anybody wants to show up and prop me up you're more than welcome to and um if not we'll see you when we see him I'll take a motion to adjourn second second Tommy D in favor
Tommy he's Frozen he's Frozen he's froze Tommy's froze John papalardo yes Joan spr yes Andy young yes Christian Andres yes trishy Shields yes Eric Whitley yes chair in favor all right Rob thank you very much Carrie thank you
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