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Part 1 (Video ID: igXIf8yIW5c):
- 00:06:23: Welcome and Open Meeting Law Acknowledgement - Select Board
- 00:08:04: Minutes Approval and Corrections for March 3rd, 2026
- 00:11:23: Minutes Approval with Corrections for March 10th, 2026
- 00:13:23: Public Announcements: Shellfish Officer and Coast Guard
- 00:13:55: Public Announcements: Coast Guard Boat House Update
- 00:15:02: Residential Tax Exemption Subcommittee Meeting Announcement
- 00:16:41: Verizon Pole Petition Continuation to April 7th
- 00:18:21: Town Meeting Article Review - Center for Living
- 00:20:43: Presentation of Bids on the Center for Living
- 00:29:11: Select Board Questions and Discussion on Center
- 00:33:32: DAM Definition and Contingency Discussion on the Project
- 00:37:15: Potential Permanent Building Needs Committee Discussion
- 00:38:19: Motion to Place and Recommend Article
- 00:39:07: Public Comment: Elaine Gibbs, Concerns About Expenses
- 00:42:22: Public Comment: Nancy Field, Expense Sheet Questions
- 00:44:01: Rick Pomroy and Nancy Discuss Details of Spreadsheet
- 00:45:00: Public Comment: Pat Burke, Gratitude for Hard Work
- 00:45:32: School District Budget Assessment for FY27
- 00:49:00: Stuart Joins Meeting and Votes, School Officials Present
- 00:49:33: Bylaw Amendment Petition - Water Supply Emergencies
- 00:50:05: Gloria Hicks Presents Petition - Private Wells
- 00:54:12: Definitions of Amendment for Review
- 00:55:13: Select Board Comments on Gloria's Presentation
- 00:57:43: Brian Phillips Shares Proactive Comments
- 00:57:59: Second Motion and Vote on Water Restrictions for Wells
- 00:58:16: Affordable Housing Tax Exemption, Brian Phillips Presents
- 01:01:35: Select Board Questions: Brian Phillips and FinCom
- 01:02:54: Carrie: Impact to Overlay Discussed, Funding Solutions
- 01:06:39: Debate: The Statute, Town Mtg, and Implementation
- 01:09:28: Select Board Votes to Recommend Brian's Petition
- 01:10:18: Closing/Signing Warrant for Annual Town Meeting
- 01:11:58: Special Alcohol License, Cape Cod Fisherman Alliance
- 01:13:33: Public Health: Opioid Settlement Funds Needs Assessment
- 01:14:46: Review, Payments, and Expenditures within Region
- 01:16:36: Municipalities Signed with Attorney General Commitments
- 01:18:50: Massachusetts Opioid Settlements Agreement
- 01:20:11: Listening Sessions and Survey Overview
- 01:22:39: Data with the Treatment/Recovery/Law Enforcement
- 01:25:14: Strategic Plan, Secondary Data, and List of Strategies
- 01:26:50: Draft Plan, Allocation Plan, and Key Performance
- 01:28:10: Select Board Discusses and Questions Report Details
- 01:30:21: Outreach with Experts and Fentanyl Overdoses Discussed
- 01:31:58: Review: Geographical Makeup, Wellness Being Considered
- 01:32:30: Opioid Follow Through and School Assumption
- 01:35:04: Carol: Opioid Payments and Free Cash Questions
- 01:37:27: Sign Off and Expenditures on Specific Expenditures
- 01:37:45: Short-Term Rental Policy/Regulation and Fee Increase
- 01:38:37: The Building Code and Annual Building Inspection
- 01:39:43: State Building Code Inspections and Staffing Needs
- 01:41:38: Regulations and Timing and Date Registrations
- 01:43:14: Local Inspector Position, State Building Code
- 01:44:56: Working with Fire and Shareing Position Options
- 01:45:43: Registration System and the Annual Reports
- 01:47:22: Registration Process with Properties not Meeting
- 01:49:03: Fee Increase Recommendation with Research
- 01:51:39: Phasing, Service Fees, Annual Inspections Debated
- 01:53:16: Short Term Rental Discussion and Pricing Service
- 01:55:55: Motion to Request the Board of Health Increase
- 01:58:43: Motion to Amend and Vote on Fee Structure
- 01:59:29: Motion to Adjourn: The Final Motion for Evening


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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome Welcome to the March 24th, 2026 meeting of the Town of Cadam Select Board. Please note this meeting is being recorded and will be available shortly hereafter for scheduled and on demand viewing on any smartphone or tablet

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device. Please can we can we suspend with the conversation, please? If anyone else is recording the meeting, including the use of AI note-taking apps, please notify the chair. Seeing none, pursuant to Governor Healey's March 28th, 2025 signing of chapter two

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of the acts of 2025 extending certain CO 19 measures adopted during the state of emergency suspending certain provisions of the open meeting law Massachusetts general laws chapter 3A section 20 until June 30th, 2027. This meeting of the Cadam Select Board is being conducted in

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person and via remote participation. Every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings as provided for in the order. A reminder that persons who would like to listen to this meeting while in progress may do so by calling the phone number 158-945-4410

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conference ID 203 386491 pound or join the meeting online via Microsoft teams teams through the link in the posted agenda. While this is a live broadcast and simalcast on Chattam TV Exfinity channel 1072,

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despite our best efforts, we may not be able to provide real time access. We will post a record of this meeting on the town's website as soon as possible. First order of business is to establish a quorum. Miss Davis >> present. >> Mr. Dykins >> present. >> Mr. Mattis >> present. >> And the chair is present.

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>> Uh we'll start with the two sets of minutes that we have for approval. First are the minutes of March 3rd, 2026. Is there a motion to approve? >> So moved >> and a second. >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. Any corrections to the minutes? I have two.

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>> Stuart, why don't you go first? >> Sure. on page uh I think it's more of a clar more of a clarification but on page six second uh at the top of the page uh cha uh Chadam asked that the select

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board clarify what is meant by resident and non-resident I did respond and clarify that that non uh resident property owners since that is typically how we uh define

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uh define that and other fees. >> Okay. >> Um >> Kathy is listening. She's remote, but she'll >> Yeah. >> clarify that. >> And on >> Yes, I've got that. >> Great. And on page seven, um at the

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bottom of the page, uh second to last, it says labor council does not represent the town manager. Labor Council's proposed changes to the amendment were clarified

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with input from uh Vice Chair Dykins. Um I don't I I think we should I think it would be helpful if and it kind of goes on to the next page. Um if if we noted that labor council wasn't

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there. You just want to clarify that he wasn't present at the >> Yeah, because some of these other Okay. questions I had. I think we I won't have them if we just say that labor council wasn't didn't happen to be there. >> So, we could say labor council was not present but at

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>> Yes. >> at the meeting but did state. >> Okay. >> Is that it? >> Yep. Uh that's it. >> Um anybody else? I have two. Uh I have on page five um uh almost at the end the roll call my

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name is missing Kathy. I was a yes vote on that. Uh also up on page on that same page on the third paragraph second line right in the middle uh I think it's July 1, 2026

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the rate increase goes into effect. Yeah. >> And then on page seven, um, these are just typos. Up at the top, first paragraph, last line, provisions plural of the open meeting law, which allows

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for such. And then um, uh, next paragraph where it says town manager Goldsmith requested, I'd like to insert the word had requested. That's all I have. Okay, I'll call the role on this. Um, Miss M Miss Davis, >> I >> Mr. Dikkins, hi.

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>> Mr. Matters. >> Hi, >> Mr. Smith. I >> And the chair votes I. Next are the minutes of March 10th. Is there a motion? >> Uh, so moved, Mr. Chairman. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. Any corrections? I have two uh small ones and then if

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anyone else has any. Um on page eight, uh last paragraph, um war, uh it says warrant. I I think uh first sentence in the middle, warrant should be warranty. >> Yep.

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>> Um that's it on that one. And then on page 16 um yes I want to on the last uh paragraph chair Niccaster stated he had asked town how manager to submit the minutes. I

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would uh change submit to draft the minutes for the first meeting and vice chair Dykins drafted the minutes for the second meeting and I want to add this comma and that he as chair had reviewed and edited both sets

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and that he as chair had reviewed and edited both sets. Any other um corrections? >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Top of page nine, please. >> Yes. >> Want to insert a paragraph uh after the first paragraph? Mhm. >> Ending in if they're going to receive a grinder pump. And this is the paragraph.

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Mr. Dykens objected to Miss Gibbs direct insinuation that he was conflicted. He noted that he had submitted plans for connection to the town sewer for his residents that needed a grinder pump years before the board considered any formal grinder pump policy for adoption. He noted that he had yet to make any

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formal application for a grinder pump to the town. He stated he had consulted with both town council and outside legal counsel regarding any potential conflict and was more sat more than satisfied given their responses that one did not exist. He then asked town council to

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comment as he felt appropriate and then I would continue with the same with the comments from town council and I'll give that to Kath that Kathy >> and we'll do that. Thank you. >> Okay. Any other corrections or amendments? >> Okay. Hearing none I'll call the role. Miss Davis >> I >> Mr. Dyken. >> Hi. >> Mr. Meers. >> Hi. >> Mr. Smith.

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>> Hi. and the chair votes eye. Public announcements and agenda item requests. Um I have one but I'll defer till we hear from others. Any other any from the board? >> Mr. Chair. >> Yes. >> I just want to note that our shellfish constable uh Renee Gagy was just named

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as the Municipal Shellfish Officer Association president and she is the first woman to have been appointed to that office. >> Congratulations. >> Want to say congratulations. Congrats >> to Renee and it's quite an honor for her and the town. Um, any others from the

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board? Any from the public? I see none. I'll get Go ahead, Greg. You're you go next if you would. >> Very good. Thank you. Greg Burman, your director of natural resources. I come

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with good news. After many decades, the Coast Guard boat house is back in chat. It is now uh docked at 90 Bridge and as of tomorrow morning will be lifted up onto the pier which is um newly constructed.

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So the road will be closed west of the bridge as of 7 a.m. and there will be uh restrictions east of the bridge on Bridge Street as well. Um after the lift, you know, we'll open it back up, but it could take until 3:00 or 4 in the afternoon. We hope to get it open as

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soon as possible. Uh but this is the you know last major uh phase before we can do the refit and um installing the upweller equipment. So another major milestone after a couple of false starts and a long time waiting.

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>> Thank you very much. Um, I wanted to mention that I received a communication today from the chair of the finance committee regarding their I guess first subcommittee meeting relative to the residential tax

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exemption that Stephen had mentioned to us and he extended an invitation for select board members to um attend that meeting. It's on April the 1st. I don't know the time. I'm looking at the schedule. I don't see it posted yet. Um

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I don't know what time of day. Uh I I think rather than formalize this as a a board meeting. It's a public meeting. Um I would suggest we leave it to individual members of the select board to attend uh as they might choose or or

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not to attend. Um, and I know he's looking for and the finance committee subcommittee is looking for some guidance from the select board on or select board members on um how they

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propose to h how it is proposed to um um provide assistance to those in need. And I I leave it I I I I would prefer to leave it to the individual members. Uh we will post the uh the meeting as though it were is a select board meeting

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just to cover ourselves under the open meeting law in case more than three three or more members of the board attend. So unless there are any questions, I'll just leave it at that. Shireen, >> I'm assuming he will welcome written comments if we can't make the meeting. >> I'm sure he would. >> Thank you.

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>> Yes. Okay. All right. Next, we have a continuation of a public hearing to consider a petition from Verizon New England, Inc. to install one new pole numbered 22536 ft east of existing pole numbered 225

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and 80 ft west of existing pole numbered 226 on Mil Pond Road and to install a new conduit from the proposed pole numbered 225.5 southeast along Mil Pond Road approximately 180 ft to a new Mill Pond

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road to the new Mil Pond Road pumping station project. Um we were to have had um a report back with a possible resolution among the um neighbors and the um and Eversource and the town. But

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uh we have not received um any um conclusion to that. So this public hearing will need to be continued a second time to another date certain. The suggestion we're being given is for another two weeks. So we would have need to take a vote. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, I move that we continue

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the public hearing till March 31st, 2026. >> Second. Is that two weeks? >> It would be April 7th. >> April 7th. >> April. Then I then I then I change my motion to April 7th, 2026. >> In a second.

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>> Okay. Moved and seconded. I'll call the role. Miss Davis. >> I. >> Mr. Dyson. >> Hi. >> Mr. Meadows. Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> Hi. >> And the chair votes I. >> There is no consent agenda tonight. Uh next item are public comments on the business agenda if anyone wishes to make them now as opposed to contemporaneously

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with the agenda items. I see none. Uh so we will proceed to the first item on the business agenda which is the an uh 2026 annual town meeting article review. We're going to take several votes to place and recommend articles. And the

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first is the annual town meeting 2026. The proposed article for the additional funding for the expansion and renovation of the existing center for active living, the sea fell at 193 Stony Hill Road. I'm going to turn to um Jill and I think we have some very good news

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tonight financially for the town as well as um operationally for the town. Jill. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, I don't want to bury the headline here. We're really pleased to report that the bid in hand approach bids came in on March 20th and

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we have identified a low bidder for the construction portion of the project and um thanks to the professional uh project team. Uh Kurt Raber, you were right with your original estimate that we went to

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town meeting with and a favorable bidding climate as as well as um our center for active living building working group. They really uh did a phenomenal job of actually improving uh what would be going to town meeting as a

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design. So, uh, with that, um, the appropriation that we're requesting is $200,000 from free cash and that we do not need a capital exclusion or a ballot vote. and that the warrant article just

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for the board's information still requires a twothirds vote because part of the the need that's required for the project or the development is potentially for the select board to receive or grant an easement with the

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abuing property owners u that's the condo association right next door and we've talked about that in our seal building working group meeting so um Mr. Chair, if you uh allowed me, I'd like to turn this over to uh our OP OPM owners,

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project manager, Rick Pomroy. Uh Kurt Raber, who's our architect. We also have Terry Whan, who's our principal projects administrator, and we have Leah Lacrosse, our director of community services, available to answer any questions. Thank you.

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>> Welcome. Good evening. I first want to apologize, Mr. Chair, for my interruption of your opening. >> Oh, that's okay. Uh, I almost sat in this young lady's, uh, lap as I was backing up, so it's a bit embarrassing, but I apologize for that. Um,

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so, um, with us tonight are Kurt and, uh, Madison from Catalyst. They're they're the design team, uh, component of our project, and we've received our bids, as Jill had mentioned, and I'm sorry, my name is Rick Pomroy from Pomroy Associates, uh, acting as the

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owner's project manager. Um we received the bids on Friday and um the uh we had nine biders. Uh the bid spread was pretty uh wide from from low to high. Uh

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but uh we took a look at the low bid and I spoke with the owner of the company. Uh it's Builder Systems Incorporated. Ask them to uh check their number, make sure that they're comfortable with their bid. And uh we uh had we've had

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experience with builder systems in the past as well as uh Catalyst Architects has had experience with them and um so I had a long conversation with as a matter of fact he called me before I can call him after we had our we had a meeting after the bid opened and uh we talked

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for quite a long time and he's extremely comfortable with his bid. He knows he's aggressive. He knows he's competitive. Um he they have a low low overhead operation and they're uh this is right in their wheelhouse is exactly what he's indicated to me. Um the gentleman I

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spoke with is one of the owners of the company and uh they have an office in Sandwich. Their their corporate office is in Auburn, Mass, but they have an office in Sandwich. And Chris Ray, who I've been working with for years now, um

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works out of the Sandwich office and lives in Sandwich. So we consider them a local contractor. Um they have completed they uh did the the bathrooms at the town hall last year uh but in larger scale uh for us they completed the

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Dennis uh council on center for active living. It was a two-phase project very successful and I know that they've done some projects with with catalyst as well. So we're we're really excited to have them. Uh, it's a hands-on approach contractor. As I said, low overhead. Uh,

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you deal we deal dayto-day with uh with Chris, one of the owners, and um, we've have a I have a lot of respect for the way that they work. You know where they're coming from. When when they tell you something, you can believe it. You may not like it, but you can believe it. So, that works perfectly with us. Um,

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the next step, we uh we're doing a DAM review. uh the initial review of their of their company has come out there. Uh they they have a 98 rating. Uh so for DAM uh you if anything below 80 is

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failing. Uh so uh DAM rating of 98 is very good. Uh very seldom will you see anybody with a 100 rating. Um we also have done uh we've requested a more de in-depth uh file uh from uh the uh from DAM that has not been received yet. I

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don't expect we're going to find anything in there. Um but we will review that for all intents and purposes. Uh what we see is a good solid bid. Uh they filled out filled out their forms properly and um you know looks looks looks very favorable for the town. As

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Jill had mentioned, the bidding climate is just spectacular right now. Um we received um we received bids a week and a half ago uh for a project in Bourne. They're a little over 10% underestimate u and it's pretty pretty much the norm

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right now. So, uh it's a favorable time and the contractors are hungry. The uh they have a list of filed subcontractors which are by statute uh who they have to uh utilize within their project in the different trades, electrical, plumbing,

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fire protection, mechanical. Uh we've reviewed all of those filed subcontractors and uh every single one of them is uh firms that we've done business with and I imagine Kurt has as well within within their firm. So we're satisfied that it's

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a solid bid and we're happy uh happy for the town. Uh the goal is to finish our dam review and have everything ready to award when uh when the town is ready to do so. The one of the most important aspects I think is through the working

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through working with the working group um we were able to add um a good number of premiums that weren't originally considered even uh in the presentation from 2025. Uh Jill had mentioned some of those earlier but uh the longlasting

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improvements low maintenance improvements uh to the exterior of the building which is going to save the town money in the long run. uh for from maintenance uh low maintenance materials and it's those are items that the town's not going to have to come back in five

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years and replace because they were due to be replaced anyway. So, we've added a lot of uh premium features into this and another one to mention would be the kitchen upgrades which was not part of the original plan. So, uh it's it's a it's I think it's a win-win all around. Um Kurt and Madison are here for any

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questions you might have. U and we're of course open to any questions you might have. Kurt, did you want to say anything at present? >> No, I would just add that um we're very pleased with the bids. Um I think taking a little bit longer to go through the design process and adding the

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working group and right sizing the project and then coming back and and talking about adding some things that really should be part of the project was worth waiting for because the bidding climate only got better. So, we got we have more work and more improvements for

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less money than I ever imagined this would be bid for. Um, so very excited that uh um the low el the the apparent low bid um seems very eligible. Um to repeat what um Rick said, we last worked

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with BSI when they successfully completed the Harbor Masters building in Sandwich uh right in the marina right along the canal across the way from the Pilot House restaurant. Um very successful project. Um and they're a hands-on company. Chris is there, his

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foreman is there, his assistant foreman will be there. So the same three guys which one of is an owner uh will be there on a daily basis. Um when the bidding started they told us they wanted it they were going to go after it aggressively. Um and they did. Um the

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next two bidders were great builders also. Um but we've got a fantastic number. Excited that I can move forward with a little less expense for the town. I think this is testimony to the bid in hand approach and maybe that's something we ought to be thinking of doing going

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forward in the town um for additional infrastructure projects. I don't know how many more we're going to have. I was told when I got on the select board we weren't going to have any uh by a former select board member that we had they had taken care of everything back in 2015,

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but that did not has not proven to be the case. Anyway, uh I'll tell you offline. Uh um anyway, uh and I'm intrigued that they that this firm has done the work in Dennis for the seafll. That's great. That's great news because

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that was a renovation in addition. >> It was a renovation expansion. Yeah. A two-phase project. >> Yeah. Um um and I know we have several members of the Council on Aging board here. I I want to thank the staff. Cherry, did you have anything you wanted

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to add to this? I want to thank our staff, um the the working group, uh the Council on Aging Board, the Friends of the Council on Aging, and the town seniors for their patience throughout all these 10 years. Of course, we won't

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feel 100% u great about this until we have the ribbon cutting, but um I think we're um well on our way, and this is this is terrific news. If we have no nothing further to say, I'll I'll turn to the board for comments and motions. Stuart.

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>> Sure. Thank you, Dean. Um, yeah, that that's good news. The uh what do you think the reason for the spread, you know, it's a big spread. It's a $2 million spread from the highest bidder to the lowest bidder thereabouts. Um, is that

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for the public's debate, is that a is that something you're seeing a lot of in your >> Yes, recently we've seen very aggressive bids and bids that seem like they didn't put much effort into it, like they'd be happy to take the project at that number

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if it fell in their lap. Um but there was a two bids um that were um under 400 um or 4 million rather. Um there was a couple bids just a little bit higher than that. Um so the the average bid was

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also right near our estimate or the the professional estimators cost estimate. Um, I think that the the two lowest biders wanted the job the most, worked the hardest to find local um contractors that would work and do the general

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construction work other than the uh filed sub bids, which were the electrician, the heating, the plumbing, the the roofing, etc., which were obligated to bid separately. Um and then we saw that same sort of spread of almost 40% or more um in the filed sub

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bids where some people really want the work. Um so it's it's amazing that you could pay two different prices for the same thing. Um but uh people who need the work or want the work, >> right, >> go after it.

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>> And the um the >> I could I just I want to add one thing to that too. Um, I know that at least two of the low biders do a lot of self-performance. You know, in other words, rather than subbing out every as there are a lot of general contractors

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that just do that, they sub out every aspect of it, whether it be framing or even labor, uh, you know, on the job site. And I know that, uh, that at least the two low bidders, uh, do a lot of self-performing. And I think that's where you're seeing a big difference in the numbers

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>> and the um the issues that were raised at the last building uh group meeting um where uh specifically around the railings and some other things that we had debate about. >> We did make some changes via an addendum u and we met on a Friday. the Monday

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afternoon, we sent out an addendum where we changed the design of the railings on the front entrance ramp um and included a couple of other things that were asked for uh on the site plan through our meeting with the abuter. So um we were able to kind of capture everything I

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think in that price. Um, and of course as the project evolves, we can we'll start to get product submitts and everything from the general contractor which we can make sure that um what we've what we're buying or what's being installed is maintenance-free

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um and uh going to serve the town well for 30 40 years. >> And Kurt um have you had experience with this group before? >> Yes. Uh I didn't work on the sandwich harbor masters uh building which I think we had the ribbon cutting for that about

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six or seven years ago. My partner Tim did. Uh but it went very well and we I think over the last 20 years we've probably done four projects with BSI. Um some in the private sector and some in most mostly in the public sector. Um but

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it's been it's been a few years since we worked with them but um they're always around. They're in Brewster. They're in Dennis. They're in Sandwich. >> Great. Um, okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments or questions from board members? Jeff? >> No, I just think it's a great outcome

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and I appreciate your hard work and the hard work of the working group and Jill and our team. Um, it's a considerable savings just to get grounded here. Three four is the the hard cost, the construction cost. There's soft costs as well, and it'll get us to our five million that we've already got a town

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meeting vote on. And then another couple hundred grand from from free cash is what we'll need to complete the project. Is that a fair statement? >> That that's excellent. That's a great outcome. >> Appreciate the hard work. Really really I Rick, can you just define DAM just for

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a second so folks understand what that is? That's okay. >> Department of Capital Asset Management. uh they regulate all chapter 149 construction and u contractors uh have to be decamp certified to even bid on

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the project and uh the they go through a reertification on a two-year basis. At the completion of every project, the owners, project managers, project architect and the awarding authorities normally fill out uh rating forms uh

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that get uh you know held by the state and those rating forms um uh is what they use the state uses for their overall project rating and that's where I said BSI had a rating of 98

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which is um you know if if 80 is failing you know, it it doesn't doesn't take much to flow fall below to a B or a C or a D. So, I think they uh they have a very good rating. >> Good. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> I wanted to add we were talking about uh

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the uh the u the project and all in this budget. We carried uh we we've also bumped up the contingency. We're carrying a 10% contingency on the hard cost, uh, which is what we think is essential, uh, for a renovation

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expansion because you don't know what you're going to find when you open up the walls. We we like to consider we've got everything, but there may be some surprises. So, there is a 10% contingency in this number. >> We we did do a pretty thorough examination of that building subsequent

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to uh this second pass at this building. >> Yes, absolutely. Kurt and his team opened up ceilings, opened up walls. Uh we did a lot of investigations. The structural engineer was in there at least twice, >> right? >> Um so, >> okay.

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>> So, essentially, we're talking about a project that's going to cost approximately $5 million, which is what we had hoped way back when we first engaged you. A little over a year and a half ago, we talked about could it all be under 5

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million and we're going to be right there. >> Yeah. So, we're going to be looking for 200,000 instead of 1.8 million additional and that's a great thing. I just wanted to >> what's intriguing about that is it co you know it coincides with the

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earlier estimate uh as Jill indicated. >> Yeah. But we're getting significantly more work after the building group was uh >> formulated to, you know, remove posts and poles and um and that sort of thing

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and renovate the kitchen. And so there's there's a lot more work um that wasn't included in that original estimate. >> And I and I think that's a tribute to the process that we >> economic climate, the process, the bid in hand >> as time has passed and and that that

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made it possible as well. But I think having an ad hoc building group on these projects probably makes a big difference. So you can you can structure and construct the building group the working group >> to tailor you can tailor that to the

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project. You can the people on it who might be best suited for that. >> Right. And we and we we talked earlier in this few months ago about um about the working group and uh going back to a per more permanent building needs

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committee. You know that should be I don't know if it's an agenda item but we ought to consider that. >> We can talk about that. I guess I and we can talk about that. I I guess I sort of think it might be better to have an ad hoc because you can recon you can structure

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the composition of of the group based on the project. >> Yes. I mean >> that's what >> you know I mean I think having local contractors who we we have a lot of them uh and subs I think is is would be important component of that committee.

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And although hopefully our capital project buildings are are waning because we're getting through a lot of them, uh certainly the maintenance is something that needs to be have better attention to it of all the buildings. >> Exactly. Uh I just want to say something

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on the article before we take a motion. Um the uh attachments on the um which have the the floor plans um the basement plan needs to be labeled. I I can't see it on there and the and

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maybe it just didn't copy correctly. And also we need to h add the south and west elevations. >> Sure. Um we're considering this a draft, but it's it's good for you to point out because how it will. >> Okay. So we have we have a proposed

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article as Jill outlined. Um u we don't have to read it. U but is there a motion to place this article on the warrant for the annual town meeting? I'll make that motion. >> Is it a second? >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. I'll call the role. Uh, Miss Davis.

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>> Hi. >> Mr. Dikkins. Hi. >> Mr. Meadows. Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> Hi. >> And the chair votes side. Is there a motion to recommend? >> I'll make a motion to recommend. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Moved and seconded to recommend. I'll call the role. Um. Um, Miss Davis.

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>> I. >> Mr. Dykins. Hi. >> Mr. Meadows. >> Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> I. >> And chair votes. I I Elaine, I see you there. I'm sorry I didn't catch that before I um asked for the motions. Did you have something you wanted to say? Lane Gibbs, I think that's you.

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>> Uh yes, it is me. Um yeah, just a few things uh since this will be, you know, on uh town meeting. um the RFP itself with the detail was not in the packet and I think that's important for people to see what changes were made what's

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going to be included because there was a lot of discussion around that and also if you would explain why the low bid is 3.447 million and the difference between that and the fact that we've already

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appropriated 5 million. Uh, so that's a a $1.5 million difference. There must be something in there that I'm missing as to why um the bid is 3.447 and we've appropriated sufficient money

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and you still want another 200,000. >> Jill, do you want to speak to that? >> Sure. So, this was just for the construction only, the the hard costs per se. the other soft costs uh come into I guess I should um have Rick speak

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to that uh the budget and how that impacts it. But with with what's been appropriated and also increasing the um contingency fund to 10% um the delta was just $200,000 for the total project

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cost. But I certainly could have Rick answer some more questions. Certainly uh the soft cost as Jill was alluding to covers uh the uh fees uh for the architectural the project management fees. Uh it also includes uh material

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testing and geotechnical uh uh IT improvements in audiovisisual security system uh furniture fixtures and equipment utility company back charges uh or fees um bidding and procurement

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expenses uh miscellaneous expenses, moving expenses, which would be the rental of the trailers and the mover itself and uh setting up the trailers and then demobilizing those. uh the elevator modernization as well and then as Jill had mentioned the contingency on

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top of that. >> Okay. >> So where would we be able to see all those numbers so that we could look at those uh the combination of the hard costs and of the 3.447 and the soft costs.

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>> We can make those available. >> Yeah. I think it's important that we see how how much is being spent on OPM and all those kind of other soft costs. >> We can certainly put a link up um when we did the um renovation and and coming

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back for the transfer station project. Terry had suggested also for the warrant book to just show what's been expended and what the additional funds will cover. So, we'll work on that table, but certainly we'll make sure the website's complete so we have this information available before town meeting.

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>> Okay. Well, we'll get that out there, Elaine. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Thank Thank you, Rick. Thank Thank you, Kurt. Um, and and your teams for for the for your kind for your good work. >> Um, next question.

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>> Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, Nancy, you have to come to the um mic. This might not be Nancy Field South Chadam. I'm also on the um COA board. this might not be the right venue for this, but um I did the same thing Elaine

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did, but I I was ahead of her at the building working group. Um uh detail of the expenses, the costs were handed out in November of last year. And so if we

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look at the way I look at the numbers is 3447 for the construction a million153825 for the soft costs and then the with the new bid that would be 350 as a

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contingency 10% contingency which comes to $4,958.25. So, like Elaine, I'm wondering why we need another $200,000 when it looks like we're coming in almost exactly right at the 5 million.

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So, I don't I don't understand where that 200,000's coming from. >> Rick, do you want to try to try to tackle that question? U I I gladly would uh go back and take a look at that was those were uh the spreadsheets that we prepare prepared in

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November I believe. Right. And we've updated that updated that information since that time. >> Oh, okay. >> Right. Yeah. So, we have our post bid estimates. Uh we added some line items. Uh we added security. >> Okay. Well, there's the difference. There's the 200,000 right there.

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>> There's 200 right there. >> Okay. >> And then the U we dropped the contingency down from this one. >> Yeah. To 350. >> Yeah. So there was uh some refinements. The schedule was extended. U there was uh so some of the fees were extended as well. >> Okay. >> Um we

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>> if we can get that that would be great. >> Thank you. >> Thank you Nancy. Thank you Rick. Okay Burke. Thank you very much. Uh Pat Burke, uh chairperson of the council on aging board of directors. I don't have any

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questions. I would just like to say thank you to everyone to the select board to the working group to Kurt to Madison to Rick to everybody who's worked so hard Jill who's worked so hard on this project and we're finally

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finally going to see this come to fruition. So I I really would just like to say thank you to everyone. >> Thank you, Pat. Okay. Okay. Next item. I think I can go forward here. Next item is the Monomorey

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Regional School District operating budget and assessment for FY2027. I'm going to ask Carrie Mazerole uh to come uh to the podium on this. I will note the presence of Superintendent Carpenter, Dr. Carpenter, Dr. Millan,

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and um u Mr. McMillan uh the business manager for the district. Terry Thank you, Mr. Chair. Carrie Mazero, finance director. Um, >> to support >> we received um >> I'm sorry. Just excuse me. We're just I

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just wanted to check. Did Okay, >> we voted to place the article. Did the board also vote to recommend it? >> We didn't take the vote. >> Yes, they did. >> Okay. Thanks, Terry. >> I thought we took it, but I'll I'll wait for Stuart to get back. >> We'll defer that. >> You did take the vote on both. >> We did. We did. Okay. All right. Thanks.

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Thanks, Kathy. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Go ahead, Carrie. >> All right, Carrie, back to our school district here. >> Okay. Um, we have the um Monamoy Regional School operating budget. Um, and we've

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had um a few different um uh um budget um assessments that we've received um so far during the budget season. The first one was 11,979,723. Um, the second one was um I don't even

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remember what it was. I don't think I put it on my report, but the third one, third and final 11,737,53 um that is um $242 um $242,670,000

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less um representing uh 5.6% 6% 5.56%. Oh my god, I can't speak tonight. 5.56% over FY2026. Um, and I don't know if you have any questions on the budget, but the uh

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Monoy School is here. Um, >> the school committee is voting on the 26th. >> They are voting on the 26th of which is only a few days away. >> We do not anticipate an increase. >> No. school committee and the leadership of the school committee each one is is

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not is saying no. >> So >> that's correct. >> Okay. Um so we have the article that's drafted um >> in the amount of um >> 11 >> 11 million

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>> 737053 >> and um the sources of the funding uh essentially it's through taxation. And there's a transfer of 35,000 from the cable access educational cable access fund. So, um I'll I was going to I don't know if Stuart is headed back. I

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I'll ask for a motion to place this article on the warrant. >> Move to place. >> Second. >> Moved and seconded to place. And um we'll call the role. Miss Davis. >> I. >> Mr. Dykins I. >> Mr. Meadows. I. >> And the chair votes I. If Stu when Stuart comes back, we'll ask him if he

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wishes to assign his vote in the affirmative to that as well. Now, I'll entertain a motion to recommend. >> Move to recommend, Mr. Chairman. >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. I'll call the role. Miss Davis. >> I. >> Mr. Dykins. >> Hi. >> Mr. Matters. >> Hi. >> And the chair votes I. Stewart.

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>> Um, we just took two votes, but I left it open for you to participate. This is on the school budget and assessment. We took a vote to place and recommend uh it was four to zero, but if you would like to make it five to zero in each of those, please state and the record will

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show that. >> Sure. Yes, I'd like to support that. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Um Dr. C, Dr. Millan, and Mr. McMillan. >> Okay. Next, we have a citizen petition article submitted by Gloria Hicks to

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consider an amendment to the town bylaw chapter 261 on the water supply emergencies. Uh, the chair is going to rec I'm going to recuse myself from this and ask the vice chair to preside. Mr. Meadows. >> Uh, Mr. Chair, I have to recuse myself also, but I have a system that would be in a conflict of this. So,

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>> yes. So, >> I have to >> I'll leave it in Mr. Dyson. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good evening, Gloria. How are you? >> Good evening. How are you? >> Good. Why don't you please present your your petition? >> Thank you. Gloria Hicks, South Chattam. Um, this town warrant article is about water conservation and the

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responsibility of all of us in protecting our most valuable and vital resource, our water. Our summer months have become increasingly warmer and drier and consistently every year, which necessitates a water ban and restrictions every summer. Rob Failey

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came to you last week and reported we are in a level two drought right now. Um although expected to recharge, nothing is guaranteed. Brewster reported little faith in a recharge even with our snow and rain this spring.

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Although all of our water comes from the same aquifer, some treated for public water and some for private wells, it is not environmentally sound or logical anymore to continue to do business as usual. Our choices now are to handwater

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with currently installed irrigation systems. Um can no longer be put in or you can put in a well. Those are our three choices. The restrictions for handwatering and irrigation systems are by use days and hours. None exists for

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wells. Chattam is changing. Large developments and massive homes are being built in Chadam and all with wells. Any citizen can put in a well, but it defies logic to do that in terms of conservation.

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We invite Mass Save into our homes for low flow showerheads, faucet diffusers, and lowcapacity toilets to help conserve water. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts Water Management Act program model bylaw includes options for regulating private

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wells. Towns are adopting these bylaw bylaw changes. Hamilton, Wenham, and Rentham have done so. DPW director of Rentham feels calls from towns inquiring about these bylaw changes. To continue to simply ask private well

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users to honor water bans and restrictions is no longer environmentally logical. Well water doesn't even have to be tested. Uh some don't even know what they're drinking. Um microplastics, fertilizers, industrial chemicals, and

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bacteria are being returned to the earth as well. I am asking for your support with this warrant article to include private wells in our conservation efforts. It is simply the right thing to do. Let's make Chadam the gold standard for other

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communities on Cape Cod in conserving and protecting our water. It's time to move forward with this initiative. I have um the model for the bylaw from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts if you would like it. And I also want to end

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this with a quote from Dr. Dykinson that was made in June of 2022. Good quality and enough fresh drinking water are vital to the health of our community. While the ban applies only to those on public water supply, private well owners are asked to take these

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measures into consideration as we all draw from the same aquifer. >> We do. >> Okay, Glor, Miss Hicks, thank you very much. Now, the exact ask is you would like to change the definition uh in our in our bylaw. You're asking to change the definition of

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>> I'm asking to include private wells in restrictions. Would you just please read the read the change in the definition so the public knows >> um I'll have to get it. >> No, I've got it right here. >> Right here. >> I just I want people to be clear. That's all. Okay.

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>> You're asking for a change. >> Yeah. Read the def change in definition. >> 261.3. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Yep. I just want folks to understand that this is this is a petition by by a a petition uh venue. It'll be

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automatically placed in the warrant, but um Miss Hicks is asking for our recommendation this evening. 261-3 definitions water users or water consumers means all public and private uses of the town's public water system

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and this is the change and users of private wells drawing water from the same aquifer from which the town's public water system is withdrawn irrespective of any person's responsibility for billing purposes for water used at any particular facility. >> Yes. So in essence you're changing the

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the definition to include the owners of private wells and users of private wells. >> Correct. you adhere to the to the restrictions that we play we put in place in time times of >> there were questions earlier with the finance committee that um this can't be policed but quite frankly we're not policing any of it. Um you don't know

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that I'm in my backyard with my lawn, you know, watering my my blue stone and washing cars and and anything. So it really only affects um well users. It doesn't affect hand or irrigation systems because we can't put those in anymore. So all of us could put in

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wells, but then that's a big deal for the aquifer if all of us would have put in wells. >> Yep. Okay. Thank you. Um, comments from the board and then comments from the public. Comments from the board. Shireen

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or Stu. Um, I guess I Thanks for start off the comments. Um, you know, we're we've been encouraging folks who want irrigation systems to um get private wells in order to do so.

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Um, mainly for so we're not putting treated water on lawns. Uh, this isn't that. Um, um, so I guess we're I guess we're still good with those folks. I mean, I I I pass a a home. It's

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not important where, but it's down by Orchard Pond, and it's obviously on a well. I think it has a sign that it's it's well water, and it's it's running at 1:00 in the afternoon. Uh water running down the road. So, it's too bad that it goes to your enforcement portion, and that um enforcement in any

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of our codes is always a is always a sticky wicket. Um but I just wanted to make those comments. I I generally support the uh >> we've been asking people to honor it, but we need we need to do a little bit more and Chattam is changing in a big way with all the structures and

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>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're all like you point out correctly, we're all drawing from the same aquifer and it kind of uh we're kind of all in on this. Um, not to mention the fact that, and I've mentioned this before for a future agenda, but um,

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we're also building a hund00 million wastewater treatment plant and we're fertilizing our lawns, adding to the nitrogen loading, which is >> kind of contrary to logic, >> uh, irrespective of where you might stand otherwise, >> uh, for a future discussion. Thank you. >> Thank you, Stuart Green.

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>> Gloria, thank you for bringing this forward. And um I uh I've always said we're we're all part of the same aquifer and it and conservation measures should be applicable to everybody. And I think u you know enforcement obviously is an

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issue. It takes um but maybe it highlights to somebody that they have to take that responsibility too because this is a >> a natural resource that we obviously are seeing you know having some challenges with um with uh recharging uh the lens.

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Um, not to say that we're have a problem with our water, but this would be something that perhaps people would take a little more serious. So, I'm supportive of it. Um, do we want to make a motion to recommend? Is that >> That's what we're being asked. I'm just going to solicit comments from the public. Mr. Phillips,

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or I should say, welcome comments from the public. >> Brian Phillips, 37 Orleans Road. I just think it's uh really good to have a proactive approach and be possibly 10 or years too early than 10 years too late when it really uh makes a difference. Thanks.

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>> Okay, we have the uh again the petition is going to be on the warrant as a matter of uh matter of law, but I'll entertain a motion to recommend. >> Motion to recommend. >> A second. >> A second. >> Okay, we'll take a role. Miss Davis, >> I. >> Mr. Smith, >> I. >> Mr. Dykins is very supportive. He says I as well. Thank you very much, Mrs. Ms.

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Hicks. Thank you. Okay, we can call back the folks back to the back to the table. Thanks. The next item is a citizen petition article submitted by Brian Phillips acceptance of local option mass general

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laws chapter 59 section 50 foro for for an affordable housing tax exemption for year-round rental properties. Mr. Phillips, welcome. All right, Brian Phillips, 374 Orleans Road. Uh, there's no way this presentation could go any worse than my FinCom presentation, and

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that might be a reason why they uh had a negative vote on it. So, this petition is to see if the town will vote to accept revisions of MGL chapter 59 section O and authorize the select board to establish a tax exemption for qualifying real property that provides

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affordable housing units as provided in said section effective starting fiscal year 2027. and further that the select board shall have the authority to establish the qualifying criteria for such exemption consistent with the requirements of MGL

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chapter 59 section 50 including but not limited to the determination of affordable housing rates household income limits not to not to exceed 200% of the area median income and the exemption amount and further that the

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assessor's office uh will be authorized to administer the exemption in accordance with said section and any guidelines or regulations established by the select board and the Massachusetts Department of Revenue or to take any other action

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relative there too. So the explanation is the passage of this article would adopt a local option provision of Massachusetts general law that authorizes municipalities to institute an affordable housing tax exemption. This tax exemption made available by

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legislation passed on uh in October 2023 allows a municipality to provide a tax exemption to residential property owners who rent their units to income qualifying persons at affordable rates on a year round annual basis. Upon

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approval by town meeting this a little typo. This select board is responsible for setting the following. The maximum amount of the exemption cannot be in excess of the tax due on the parcel. The maximum annual occupant household income

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cannot exceed 200% of the area median income. The affordable housing rate of rent. Any docillary uh requirements uh for the property owner and any other restrictions or

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regulations consistent with the intent of the law. if it elects to implement. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, any questions or comments? Stuart? >> Uh, Brian, what was the gist of the I didn't watch the FinCom meeting. What was the gist of their

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>> Well, I didn't I didn't really read it. I kind of just gave, you know, a short explanation of that. You know, it's uh to incentivize um and give taxes exemptions to rents out to local people. >> Yeah. And then one of my biggest um

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uh so this is you know this was passed in Orleans recently. That's where I got it from. I know it's had a lot of success uh in Province Town. And I guess one of the the main um critiques of the of Fincom was that you know I couldn't

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demonstrate the the broad um financial impact of this which would be kind of tough to do because this is just a framework to set up the select board to set that up. it's kind of outside of my I guess jurisdiction or whatnot. But one of the main reasons why I like this and I wanted to move this forward is because

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this answers the criticism of the um year- round tax exemptions saying that it will raise uh rental rates. So in this com in this in combination with the year- round tax exemptions I think is a it works it works well together.

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>> That makes sense. >> Any other comments? Shireen. >> Yeah. So, there would need to be a funding mechanism at some point for this to offset the tax exemption. That's what I'm trying to wonder. >> Is Carrie here? >> Is Carrie here? She's outside. >> She was outside there for >> just I think it would um potentially

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impact the overlay fund. That's the fund where there's the exemptions and through the class tax classification hearing. I don't think it actually needs an appropriation. Carrie, is there a fiscal impact to the petition article? >> The first one

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So um this article um it would have a impact on the overlay. So um not right now it doesn't have an impact because once it if if this passes at town meeting um you would have to implement

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what you want it to be. So basically um you would vote on what your exemption is going to be for for this and the what you can set for the maximum. it can't go over and above um their tax. So if they

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if their taxes are $5,000, you have to be below that for um the exemption, but it does have an impact to the overlay. It's a so one of the articles we have that the board has placed is funding the

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overlay account for us so that when there are exemptions that are granted or abatements that are are needed that's the fund that we tap into but as Krie said it's it's usually a year delay of of accessing those funds if we need to.

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It's just a matter of how many people apply for the exemption. So if if if enacted and the select board decided to implement the program and we have funds from the affordable housing trust fund, can that be

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transferred to the overlay to offset that cost or is that possible? >> I've never seen that done before. I don't know. >> I don't know. I mean, you know, so the so it's not impacting the overlay. >> We can check with Orleans and >> Yeah. I want to find out who how that

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would work. >> Okay, >> that would be I mean at least for town meetings purposes. >> Mhm. >> You fund the overlay with appropriations. >> We do. We fund the overlay when we do the um tax rate recap. So there's um

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it's funded when we do that, >> right? Um, and usually that depends like the assessors ga gather all of the exemptions that they have, the people that have applied in the past and they go through all the veterans and all the senior exemptions and you know obviously if this would be a new one they would go

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through that as well but it would have to be implemented. People would have to apply for it for us to get a number first. Okay. >> Um, so like Jill said it would take a little while for it to actually get on our overlay. But >> if there were a projected shortfall in the overlay, it would be funded. That

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would be made up by appropriation. >> Mhm. Yes. Correct. Yep. >> Jeff. >> Yeah. Uh Brian, uh Orleans did pass this. >> Yes. >> At town meeting. It was passed. >> It was a um not an emergency town meeting, but it was a special special town meeting.

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>> And and so is their experience kind of young yet with it? They do. We have >> Well, they just passed it. So, I I think there's still I don't actually know, but this just gives, you know, I still think they're coming up with it, you know, just this just gives the select board the ability to implement this. I think

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Province Town is probably going to be a better example because I think I believe they're doing it. >> How long have they had it? Do we know in Province Town? >> I don't know. >> Okay. >> The um I mean, I think what's important to emphasize in what Brian said is that it's an authorization. It's not

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required. So, we're going to have debate and appropriate similar to what we just went through with the residential tax exemption. So, >> I'm I'm inclined to support that since the board future boards can yay or nay it. >> My question, I don't have the statute in

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front of me. I did look at it the other day and I don't recall that point, but so if it's just an authorization, a future select would say we don't want to implement. >> I mean, that's how I'm reading this. >> Do you have the statute in front of you? I have um >> I have the motion. It says to see if the

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town would accept the provisions and then uh further down um authorizes municipalities to institute affordable housing tax exemption. I mean, I haven't read the statute either, but it seems like this is not a requirement. We're

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accepting a statute for the board to accept uh to implement or not implement. But that's that's my cursor. It's the way it should be. But I did look at it the other day. I'm just pulling it up here. >> Just in case.

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>> It says in any town that accepts this section, this board of selectmen or select board of the town. Thought that was interesting. Um may establish a property tax exemption. So the select board is not obligated to

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do it. Okay. >> It allows us to. >> It's an option. >> It allows us to. >> Okay. >> It basically builds on the 2023 actions of legislation that that have happened >> and then for us to >> we need town meet we need legislation happen. We need a town meeting in action

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and then we have to have the select board make kind of final imple implementation um >> with various uh protocols and parameters we have to put in place if we want to implement. So this is an exemption. The the article we've already put forward

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that Serene you proposed for lease to locals that provides essentially a grant >> um >> to a less sour that >> and that um was funded through the affordable housing trust. So it it

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pertains to affordable housing >> um parameters. >> This is this takes it up to 200%. Yeah. >> And I don't think the lease to locals >> I can't remember how far we went with that. >> That's the community housing fund. So we

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could have Yes. The the higher >> So that is funded by that. But I can't remember what the AMI limitation was on it. >> And that does not requ say that does not require acceptance of a statute. >> No, it didn't. Katie, >> I think it was at least 200% AMI, but it

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might have been more >> that it was I I I I thought because we were funding it through the affordable housing trust fund. >> We funded it through the the attainable. >> We did. >> Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> All right.

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>> Okay. Uh, and that was to offset any potential um, at least the my philosophy was that with the tax exemption, this could offset some of the costs that a a homeowner who's leasing to locals could

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could help. However, I still am supportive of the future select board considering the statute as well. >> Any other comments or motions? Mr. Chairman, I move to recommend. >> Second. >> Uh, okay. That's right. We don't have to take a vote to place. So, it's been

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moved and seconded to recommend. I'll call the role. Um, Ms. Davis. >> I. >> Mr. Dyken. >> Hi, >> Mr. Meadows. Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> I. >> And the chair votes I. Thank you, Brian. >> All right. Thanks, guys. >> Next is uh the closing and signing of

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the warrant for the annual town meeting of May 11th, 2026. Um, we do have um a memo from the staff. I do want This is a vote we need to take tonight. Um, I do want to um mention

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that I'm aware of one other potential petition article um that might be filed. Uh and uh we have the town manager and I have indicated to the uh prospective petitioner that um if it's filed by

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tomorrow, it would go into the if and certified by tomorrow, there is time for it to go in the warrant. So with that allowance and if anybody else had a petition article and they could get it in the warrant because this is going to the printer hopefully on Friday. So there's some leeway, but we need to take

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a vote to close it. Um, so with that, I'm going to ask if there is a uh a motion uh to Is there a draft motion here? Yes. >> To close >> a motion to close the warrant for 2026

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and approve the use of electronic signatures to sign the 2026 annual town meeting warrant. >> So moved, Mr. Chairman. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, I'll call the role. >> Uh, Miss Davis. >> I, >> Mr. Dikkins. Hi, >> Mr. Meadows. Hi,

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>> Mr. Smith. >> Hi. >> And the chair votes I. >> So, thank you. >> Kathy will apply those signatures electronically. >> Um, next we have a uh consider to uh an item to consider the special one a special one-day alcohol license. Cape

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Cod Commercial Fisherman's Alliance meet the fleet on April 1st at 1566. main April 1st, 2026 at 1566 Main Street. And Jen Allard, I think, is going to present this. Jen, >> welcome. >> Yeah. Hi. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I'm

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here on behalf of the Cape Cod Commercial Fisherman's Alliance. This is our first Meet the Fleet of 2026, and it is on Wednesday, April 1st. Um, I believe that the board and maybe the public is familiar with these events

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that we hold several times a year that um bring together a local industry member and also local chef and restaurant and educate the public and encourage um more local seafood consumption and cooking. And so we are

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looking for a 1-day alcohol permit for our 30 minute uh uh reception before the the lecture piece for Wednesday, April 1st. >> Thank you. Any questions? This has been done before. Yeah. >> Several times, >> Mr. Chair. >> Yes. Yes. I move to grant a special

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one-day alcohol license for wine and malt beverages to uh Bridg Krug of the Cape Cod Fisherman's Alliance for the Meet the Fleet event, April 1st, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. to 7 p.m. at 1566 Main Street, Chadam. >> I'll second that.

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>> Moved and seconded. I'll call the role. Miss Davis. I >> Mr. Dy. >> Hi. >> Mr. Matters. Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> I. >> And the chair of votes. Is there a motion to recommend? >> I'm sorry. >> We're all through with that. Dean, >> we're done. We're done with the war.

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>> Thank you. You You have it, Jen. No, I don't. >> Thank you. >> Thanks so much. >> Good luck. Sorry. >> We have two items remaining uh that involve our public health department and I'm going to ask um Judy Giorgio to to

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come to the podium. The first is to have a presentation by Crescendo on the opioid settlement funds community health needs assessment which is in our packet. Welcome, Judy. >> Hi, thank you for having us. Um, I'm just going to introduce our consultant

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Joe Moresy from Cassando. She's a director and she worked with um our uh our local group, Cadam Haritch, Brewster, Orleans. Um, and she's going to present the results of the uh the u

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opioid settlement community health needs assessment. So, I'm going to turn it over to you. Hi, Joe. Welcome. Welcome, Miss Marcy. Please proceed. >> I think you're muted. >> You're muted. I think you are muted.

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>> Can you hear me now? >> Yes. >> Thank you for having me. Um, so the opioid settlement regional needs assessment. Um, this is a presentation being done in the spring of 2026 to review what we did in the fall of 2025.

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So, I'm going to go over the opioid settlement, the payments and expenditures within your region, the terms of the opioid settlement agreement that your municipalities have signed with the attorney general of the state of Massachusetts, and then briefly go over the methodology, the key findings,

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the prioritization process, and then next steps. And I promise to be quick. So, as Judy has said, I'm Joe Morrisy. I'm the director of Crescendo Consulting. Back in the fall of 2025, we did a regional needs assessment, just a

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down and dirty set of listening sessions with Brewster Chadam, Dennis Haritch, and Orleans. But before we get into that, I'd like to set the stage a little bit. So back in 2018, the then attorney general Mora Healey signed one of the first pursuits

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of a lawsuit against Purdue Pharma for the harms caused by the opioid epidemic. Almost many of the states followed and lawsuits against distributors and pharmacies and manufacturers soon

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followed. The first payments from those lawsuits began to be distributed to your municipality back in 2022. Today we're looking at the very first lawsuit that was filed against Purdue Pharma has finally been settled in 2025.

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Those funds should begin pouring into your communities sometime this year in 2026. It is about this time when your region, having received and signed the opioid settlement agreement, began to realize that the problems that were being faced

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within your communities moved beyond your town borders. And there was also concern and conversation around what could be perceived as the ineven distribution of fundings between each of your towns. And I'll show you what that means on the next slide. Those p final

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payments are due to be finished distributing in 2038. So there is quite a horizon for this project. So, as you can see here, even though you're abuing towns, your payments that you have been received as of this is of

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November of 2025 are quite uneven, even though your towns abut one another. This is due to the opioid settlement distribution funding that is part of the national settlement and the the state of Massachusetts is actually bound by that

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formula funding. So this happens in communities across the Commonwealth as well as communities across the United States. You've got Haritch that has received 388. And then you've got Orleans which is really quite next door only receiving 107, not even half the

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same amount. The expenditures that are listed here are expenditures as of November of 2025. Their remaining balance in their coffers again as of November 2025. And it's important to note here that that estimated total future expenditures

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still do not include the find the settlements from the Purdue and Pharma settlements that were just finalized um this January. We have yet to learn from the national settlement as well as from the state exactly what those future

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payments will look like, but they will be significant. So for those municipalities that agreed to participate in the Massachusetts settlement agreement, they signed with the attorney general a set of shared commitments as well as commitments to

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adhere to um allowable expenditures. So the first part of that settlement agreement are the shared commitments to reflect the input of the community to address disparities, address the poor mental health of substance use,

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supplant supplement not supplant existing programs and services and to encourage innovation and fill gaps. In addition, these allowable expenditures that are listed here, the seven abatement strategies are

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overarching strategies. Within each one of these strategies are a list of suggested activities to follow to address the harms caused by the opioid epidemic. To learn more about the expenditures to

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date, that blue QR code will bring you to a reporting dashboard. It's yet to be updated by Rise Massachusetts. These are reflecting the expenditures and receipts as of June 30th, 2024. in order to get a good idea of payments

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that have been received to date by each municipality across the Commonwealth as well as the um predicted future payments. You can use that QR code and pull down an interactive Excel spreadsheet where you can look at each

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town's municipal municipalities um receipts to date as well as anticipated future payments. And then if you are really curious, you can read using that black QR code the state subdivision agreement. I recommend if you needed

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some cure for insomnia, it's a good read. In any event, um, now that we've set the stage, um, the five towns, Brewster, Chad, and Dennis Harton, Orleans got together and hired Crescendo to facilitate listening sessions within

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each town. And then the committee themselves used a survey that Crescendo developed to disperse amongst their partners and key community members. And the purpose of these um town hall

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listening sessions and the survey was to really hear from those who have been impacted by the opioid epidemic to hear what their root causes were and what their concerns were in the community as well as to hear from them their suggestions on the best use of the

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opioid settlement funding. the key findings or um I'm just going to do a brief overview high bucket high level. So in the treatment category, folks noticed that there was a lack of 30-day inpatient programs within your

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region. There's a lack of followup upon release from incarceration treatment and or detox centers. the quality and experience of primary care providers in order to diagnose and treat those with substance use disorder,

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especially opioid use disorder, as well as that lack of providers who are able to treat the dual diagnosis for mental health and substance use disorder. There's almost always when you come to health care concerns around cost and

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lack of insurance to cover the care that's needed. And then as well as for by those who with lived in living experience, they've reported feeling stigmatized by both health care professionals within their region and for those who are in medication

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assistant treatment which are vital medicines in order to become and remain on the road to recovery. In the recovery column, people noticed and rose up the need for sober housing,

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transportation supports to get back and forth to the treatment or recovery programs, a lack of followup upon release from incarceration treatment and/or detox. self-care training for nutrition needs, stress management, physical activity, mindfulness, and

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acupuncture supports to help them on their road to recovery and stay on the road to recovery. And again, that cost or lack of insurance in order to support their needed costs to remain re in recovery, as well as a support for

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needed services to transition into back into the community, including employment, job training, housing, and counseling needs. And finally, law enforcement um was also raised as a vital partner within this um

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initiative. And for those folks that came forward, they spoke of the need for social workers as co-responders as well as the judicial response being a little too lenient on drug dealers in your communities. And then again, um, another common theme, support for

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criminal justice involved individuals who are leaving incarceration. And then finally, the family and community bucket. Um people mentioned um that there was the need for support services for impacted family members, a need for prevention, the availability

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and how to use Narcan within your community was also raised as an issue. and then um all encompassing education and the need to raise awareness of not only the issues within your community but also education in supports of any um

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implementation plans that you would put forward. So the prioritization session occurred on November 19th where 23 participants representing the municipalities, key partners and those with lived and living experience reviewed the findings and

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prioritized those six identified needs. using a modified Henland method which is a um proven method who for this type of activity within public health. Each participant was asked to rank each of those 16 needs three times over. Once in

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terms of magnitude or what they believe to be the size of the problem, another time in in terms of severity, what they believe to be the seriousness of those problems within your community. And then finally on the feasibility or the ability to address those problems within

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your community. And then finally, this is the identified list of needs in ranked order with the number one priority being youth opioid prevention on down the list. I will not read you the 16.

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So where do we go from here? The proposed next steps are to create a strategic plan to address the needs that were raised during these listening sessions and survey. What you're seeing here is a proposed

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work plan in order to create the strategic plan. It is about a a year-long process which you start with creating an opioid strategic planning charter. kind of lays out the ground rules of how all everyone's going to play together in

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creating this strategic plan. Then you create the strategic planning committee members. We're recommending that we collect and analyze secondary data related to the opioid use disorder within your region. As you'll note from the previous slides, the data that we

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collected is all qualitative primary data. What we really could use is another glimpse at say EMT calls for service or the actual opioid overdose rates within your community to get an idea of what we mean by secondary data.

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Using the data that we've collected as well as the findings from the surveys and marrying up the list of approved strategies, host a workshop with the community members to then line up where

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the priorities and the needs are with those approved strategies to create a draft strategic plan and identify key performance indicators to keep everyone on task as well as transparency. Once that is complete, creating an

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allocation plan to support those identified activities. This is where we have those really lovely conversations around who is going to be contributing and supporting which activities within that strategic plan. At that point, you

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would be ready to present a draft strategic plan to your select boards and boards of health for review and approval. Once that is complete and should we find ourselves in a place that this is a go, we would turn the process over to the

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office of local and regional health to help you as a collaborative set up any shared service agreements or an opioid abatement collaborative where you're officially pulling those fundings in a um in a lasting arrangement agreement

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with um the approval of the attorney general. And then following through on that implementation um on that first half of your implementation of your strategic plan where we would monitor those key performance indicators that would be

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required for your state reports that would be reporting on activities um as of June 30th, 2027. I will stop sharing my screen and take any questions. >> Well, thank you very much for that very

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detailed report. I I had a couple of points. First, um uh the material that you presented in the slides, I wonder if we could have that a full uh set of that attached to the our minutes of this meeting because there are some additional material beyond what was in the original packet. And I appreciate

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that. Uh secondly, it sounds like um uh with the pending settlement for for Purdue, I think you said pharma, that um there is the potential for the town getting additional monies in the future. Is that the case? Okay. Um the um

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listening sessions that were held were those largely populated by prof health health care um prof public public health professionals versus general public or I thought I had read that somewhere in the material or just trying to get a sense of the demographics that participated in

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those. >> Yes, that's a very good question. Um the meetings were open to the general public. They were largely um attended by community nonprofit agencies either representing or working with those community members who have been impacted

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by the opioid crisis and their families as well as the members of your boards of health. >> Okay. And uh I what I took away from this more broadly at a higher level was that the best approach I guess to this whole problem is a holistic one that

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that it's not just the medical or psychiatric it's it's societal involvement of the family community in general law enforcement every um uh I think it's referred to as the wraparound approach. >> Is that correct?

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>> That's very much so. >> Okay. Any uh comments from the board? Jeff? >> Mr. Niccastro, I'm I'm impressed with your your use of the wraparound approach. >> I had to look that up. No, >> I had to look that because it was used several times. >> Yeah. And that's the exact approach. I mean, it's biocschosocial and and this

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is uh this is an effort that's near and dear to my heart. um in your in your planned uh working group if you will with the five towns, are you going to reach out uh to treatment uh the Cape Cod Healthcare, the Duffy, GZnold

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um and other providers in the community in the larger community, not necessarily in the lower Cape or the Outer Cape? Are you going to reach out to have those folks involved? Because those are the experts in in on the Cape that really kind of know what they're doing um dayto-day. And I by the way, I loved your presentation. I thought you were

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very concise and very direct and very forward doing some great work here. Um >> thank you. >> So just are you going to reach out to providers to folks with experience? Um I will um lean on Judy to answer that question, but yes um having a broad

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spectrum representation by both providers um clients, law enforcement, family members would be the best approach in order to create a strategic plan that addresses the multifaceted root causes of the opioid crisis and its

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treatments. >> And it takes a village. I I just honestly believe that education is absolutely critical. You the education of our youth. >> I also love the fact that you that you want to nail you you would look to do something about drug dealers themselves because there are people pushing opioids

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still in our communities. Fentanyl um oxies uh they're still out there and folks in our town have died from fentanyl overdoses and and and in the lower and outer capes. So, it's very important that we kind of try to stay ahead of this stuff. And I'm I think I

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think a regional approach to my mind makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it gets cumbersome and perhaps noisy and it's a lot of process, but it should be very important process and I think education is key. >> Those are my two cents. >> Judy, did you want to expand on anything

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that was said? Otherwise, I'll turn to Shireen. >> Um, >> no, she said, Judy. Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you for the presentation. I'm curious as to why uh the how the municipalities were picked as as a

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regional um because I always assess I always think of if we were we look at what our district is you know as far as representation with of you know with our representation in the state house it's haritch to province town sort of and we

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do look at a lot of outer cape lower cape >> right the outer cape already has their own collaborative So, um, our lower Cape Towns wanted to, uh, work together. Since Haritch and Brewster and Chadam are and Orleans are so close, uh,

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geographically, we decided to, um, work together. And then Dennis, who has a very uh, good active group, wanted to to join us in this in this project. So, they stepped in and they've they've been very very active and helpful in the project as well.

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>> Well, that makes sense. ge geo geographically but also like the makeup of all those towns together seem to have some similar interest. Appreciate the the robust report and the future work that's going to happen is really

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important to the committee um and the idea that a holistic approach to health and wellness is is being considered in the process. So thank you >> Shireen. Has there ever been a presentation um on this whole opiate settlement and followup um follow

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through with uh before the u Cape Island Municipal Leaders Association? I know some years ago they did one on alcohol. >> Yeah. No, I don't recall that we've had a presentation >> probably something >> done. I might have had a a broad stroke. Yeah,

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it was >> I believe it was like one of the multi-topic um you know a little summary type of conver you know snippet but it wasn't an in-depth um one we probably should have actually >> yeah I think it was more about the funding and the next steps kind of thing

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but that is a great um ideas to bring that forward make a recommendation to the board >> happy if you had a follow up >> just quickly I I I'm making the assumption that you're going to work closely with the schools and is that a fair assumption

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>> the schools are definitely going to be part of um our educational you know projects moving forward. Uh right now we are just trying to get a a collaborative together and form a plan as Joe went over. Um but there's no doubt that they'll be a big part of that and we did

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reach out to um them for this needs assessment as well. >> Good. I I mean it's critical. Thank you. >> Any other comments or questions? Uh yes, Carol. >> Yeah, Carol, please come to the podium.

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>> This is uh just to the select board, Carol Gordon, South Cadam, also a board of health member. Uh I just have a question for the payments that are coming to the town. I was wondering where where will they go? Do they go into free cash? Do they are they earmarked towards the board of health

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programs or where will these where where will these payments go? >> Carrie, can you uh answer that for Carol? >> Thank you, Carrie. >> You're welcome. >> So, the opioid funds go into a um opioid

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fund that was voted. Um so, it doesn't go to free cash. It has a separate separate bucket that the funds go to. And >> I thought that should be clear. >> Yeah. So is it distributed then through you into these committed programs or >> um so when the the funds come in they

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come in electronically and then we turn we put them into the account they belong in on our ledger. >> Okay. >> Mhm. And then they're you can see the revenue going in you can see the expenses going out. It's all like one fund. >> So if the board of health wanted to do a program or something like this they

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would come to you and >> they wouldn't come to me. They would go through >> Judy Dud right expand. Judy, do you want to expand on this, please? >> Fine. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> I can just clarify. I can clarify that. Um, so far the funds have been used as recommended by our opioid uh work group

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that I had put together several years ago now when the when the money started coming in and we've used it um a small amount of it for uh educational programs BHI um and we've aid support group at Cape Cod and we also have a recovery

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coach in town which anybody can take advantage of. They're in town once a week. Um, there's also some funds in that that goes to Outer Cape Health for the recovery coach that can be used for issues that come up with someone if they have transportation issues or they need

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someone to watch their pets or whatever they need. So, it's little extra slush funds there. Um but so far all the funds that we've used I've I've um talked to the group the work group and they've approved the requests and it's been not

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totally formal but um everybody has always been on the same page and then we've made the request and and um sent the money to the people asking for it. >> We've had um the select board sign off on a couple of

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specific expenditures as I recall. Yes. two organiz. >> Okay. Um, thank you, Carol. Um, thanks Judy. Uh, so thank you, Miss Marcy. I appreciate we very much appreciate your presentation.

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>> Um, next is a discussion of the short-term rental policy and regulation. U, this was requested by uh, member Davis and consideration of a potential fee increase. And I'm going to turn to uh Greg Berman. Um and um Greg, could do

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you want to take it from here? >> Dean, I'm probably going to step down, I guess. >> Okay. >> You're you're going to recuse yourself. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Great. Thank you very much. Greg Berman, your director of natural resources. Um and I'm actually joined by several other

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folks. This is a kind of crosscutting uh discussion we'll be having. Um, also with me is your assistant town manager, director of community development, who can speak to, uh, once I get a little bit further into it, um, uh, the hiring

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of a new inspector. We have Judy, our health agent. We have our housing inspector working with short-term rentals. And really, you know, Karen has gotten this program up and running through our u health division registration.

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So I I it's my intention not to go through everything that was in the agenda report but just kind of kick it off. Um basically there is a stipulation that after 3 years the overall regulations would be

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reviewed. This is before that point but since it was brought up it's a good time to kind of bring it before the board. We have a couple of other things that might make sense to tweak that we wanted to bring in front of you. Uh, one of which is taking a look at the short-term

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rental registration fee, which right now is $50. Um, we did uh make a recommendation to increase that. one based on many of the other towns in the county having higher fees, but two that

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there are some when this was uh fee was originally created, we did not have the let's see two other potential things going on. One

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of which is under the state building code. Now there is a requirement for annual inspections by certified building inspections for uh uh certified building officials for every short-term rental.

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So this was not the intention when the short-term rental program kind of kicked off. It was anticipated that we would get to all of them after a few years and have them on a rotating basis for inspections. Uh now the state building code says we have to do everyone every year and by a certified building

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official. Um this is the um personnel that was put in this fiscal year for the additional uh position under community development. uh it has not currently been filled because we still have additional question marks where the

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Maggie Hubard Rental Safety Act may or may not come to fruition, in which case a fire official might also have to inspect short-term rentals. So, we're still trying to let the dust clear on that a little bit. Uh but regardless of

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the Maggie Hubard, we still are going to have to do the state building code inspections which would require the additional position which likely makes sense to be funded from the short-term rental registrations. So that is under

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the board of health. Um so it's set as $50 under board of health regulations. I did bring this idea before them at their last meeting. told them that I would be coming to the select board to see if they had a recommendation for the board

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of health uh to potentially adjust their regulations, increasing fees to cover the staff needs for these additional positions due to the we often call it an unfunded state mandate. Um, and then you know, while we're looking at the

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regulations, Karen also brought to our attention, uh, your housing inspector, that the timing of the registrations could be better streamlined to match up with how people actually are working with their short-term rentals. It's

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instead of doing this March date, it's better to do it on the calendar year. So, you know, I I have uh Katie here with me to talk about the position. We have Judy to talk about the overall health division, but you know, Karen is really the one who has gotten

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this registration system up and running, I think, very well over the last couple of years. And she's available to give a a quick presentation about the registration system and certainly available for any questions you have with this or anything related to it.

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Before we go, additionally at the staff level, I I want to turn to Shireen because part of this was requested by you and I didn't know what you in particular wanted to pursue here. >> Well, I think one of the the things that

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I was extremely interested in is how how how low our registration fee was and that it wasn't matching up to any costs, future costs that were coming forward. That was simply most of my concerns there and I'm so I'm anxious to hear more.

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>> Great. I'll turn it back to uh Katie is is >> sure for you and then Karen can come forward. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Again, Katie Donovan, assistant town manager and director of community development. Um so, as Greg mentioned, we had proposed and had approved a new

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local inspector position um for our FY27 community development budget. And when the state building code um was finally enacted, uh what the um the terminology came through as annual inspection should be done through

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the building division on an annual basis when requested by the owner. and our building commissioner has been working with state inspectors and other local inspectors to determine what that really means and what you know what it means for our community and our staffing

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needs. Um the other um so the other thing that um Greg had mentioned was the Maggie Hubard law and with that we've also been meeting um with the fire chief to determine what would that look like if we you know we certainly don't need

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three inspectors um on a property. And so we're trying to work collaboratively um and we've decided at this point in time not to fill the position. Um we're trying to absorb the inspections uh with our current staff. um as they're requested. However, we do want to fill

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it soon, but we'd like to know what the requirements are for that building official to be able to to be required to inspect. Um so, we're still um looking for additional guidance and we're hoping to get some insight as to where Maggie's

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Law stands um if you know if we think that that will be enacted or not. Um but you know again we're we're in this process of it's kind of a waiting game at this point. The other thing that we're considering is is working um potentially with some other towns. We've

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been approached as as to maybe sharing a position if we don't feel that we need a full-time position. Is it something that we can share with other um lower Cape communities? Um and so that's something that we're exploring as well. So again, we haven't filled the position at this point in time, but we do know that we

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will need some sort of an inspector moving forward. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh Greg, did can you do you want to have Karen come and give us some information about the program? And >> Sure. I I think she could give us a nice

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overview of, you know, how registrations have been going so far. She's the one who did the analysis of looking at the other towns on Cape Cod. Although I I think since I submitted this, we have Brewster uh in the Chronicle is is considering a fee that's not listed

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here, but it would also be more than we recommended, but >> um thank you. So, we're kind of entering our third year of registering rentals. Um we kind of hover around 900 rentals a

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year. The first year being a little less, second year being a little more. I expect to come out about the same. Um, for the most part, I think uptake has been pretty well received. Uh, most people registered once they learned of

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the program and we continue to have a good renewal rate. Um, we're technically the deadline was the end of March, no, end of February for March 1st. We've had about twothirds of our properties renew.

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Um, I did start inspections last year because I found that looking at the rental listings wasn't giving me like a good a good feel for what was actually happening in the houses and if they were safe and meeting all the requirements.

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So, my goal is to do about a third every year. Um, I think I did about 290 last year. Um, we're a little behind this year because we've been working it out with the building department as far as who would be going and timing wise

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because we certainly don't want to both go out on the same time. >> Are you meeting with any resistance when you go out for inspections from the property owners >> or are they generally cooperative? >> Generally cooperative. Um there is say

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about 5 to 10 every year with some push back. Um but for the most part it's accepted as part of the you know business of renting >> and we've had a small number of parties that have been fined >> non-compliance.

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>> Uh yes and I'd have to say most of them fall under the category of not getting the information in time and once they've appeared before the board they've rectified the situation. >> Okay. Um, so we're talking about 900 approximately that have registered. Do

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we have any sense as to how many out other properties are out there that have are not um registering thus thus far? Does anybody have any sense of that? >> I would say there's always going to be some there are people that rent. They

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don't have internet listings. They, you know, have been doing it for years and have the same renters. We're probably not going to get them unless they volunteer voluntarily register. The first year I went through every rental listing on all of the big

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sites and kind of cross referenced those listings with our registry. There aren't many out there unless they've started renting in the last like six months that we're missing. >> Thank you. And I would just bring up too, I mean Karen did a great job, you

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know, on on the ground uh uh researching these, but we we also did work with their IT department who used AI to I may get the terms wrong, but web crawl and try to investigate other ones that aren't as easily found. And so we, you

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know, kind of melded those database and any additional were provided to Karen to follow up on. >> Okay. Um, did you have a question, Corey? >> I'm going to make a comment at some point, but >> Well, okay. I Why don't we um I'll now

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proceed to the recommendation for the fee increase, the amount of the fee increase, and how you got there, and then we'll go back with questions on any of any and all of this. Thank you, Karen. Greg, you want to take that one? It's $50 now,

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>> correct? So, it's $50 now, which is certainly one of the lowest on Cape Cod. Um, we did a quick look at what various fee increases would be based on the two salaries that it would support. Um, this

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doesn't cover any um material costs, just uh uh hours and salary time. But with the fee increased, say doubled, um we would still have almost a $60,000 shortfall,

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when you get up to um $175, you're close to the break even point. You actually have a 9,000 surplus. Uh but we did recommend going with a $200 fee. one to be equitable with other towns in the area, but two, you know,

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we're we're not guaranteed 900 rentals every year. There might be 800. There might be um less. There might be more staff time involved with bringing in uh folks who choose not to register. That does take time. Mhm. >> So that's kind of what Katie and I

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discussed, coming up with a 200 round number to kind of fall in the right ballpark and also cover costs to the town. >> And you're proposing these go into this increase go into effect >> March March 1, 2027. Yes. It has to go to the board of health,

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>> but that's March 20. Had you considered a a staggering of the a phasing in like we as we did with the um the trash haulers example? Is that how how would that affect you? Obviously, it's going to

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help a little less in the somewhat less in the first year. >> Yeah, I mean it it does have possibility to phase in, but you know, we're still fairly low in the overall range across gate. I mean I don't know if you had thoughts. Yeah, I mean we're certainly

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open to phasing. Um I think that what we would want to see is at least um going to 100, but maybe even to 150 and then to 200. Okay. >> I think that um you know, looking um to cover the costs of again being required to do these inspections that we

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were no, you know, weren't previously required to do. I think we, you know, from the town's people's perspective, I mean, the the cost should be covered by the service. So, and this the fee uh is set in the regulations of the board of health as well as the the timing uh

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which you're also proposing to change. That's in the regulations of the board of health. So, the board of health would have to hold a public hearing. >> Yes. Yes. Correct. >> And that's advertised on the legal pages. I would um I guess certainly encourage the board

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when when when they hold a hearing to put out a press release or something because not everybody reads the uh class legal classifies as religiously as we do up here. I think I know I look at them. I think others do too. Um I'm going to open it up to board questions. Start

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with Corey and then Sheree. >> Uh not questions, just cause some some observations. Um, I mean, I I serve on the the short-term rental working group, so I have some background on that. Um, and probably clarification why I'm participating today is I mean, I grew up with my parents, grandparents, short-term rentals, cottages, the old

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school cabin styles. Um, you know, things are things have evolved differently. Um, you know, I've made the decision to part ways with that type of business. Um, so, you know, you see a lot of family businesses that have come and gone. um larger properties get

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redeveloped and whatever. You have um the investment property, you know, single indivi indiv individuals have a property. Uh we're seeing larger corporate entities coming in and buying large pieces of neighborhoods and turning into portfolios of rentals. So,

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the short-term rental market has changed drastically. Um I think uh couple couple things. One, uh you can think about what your price is for the service. $50 for an inspection of a a house is

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ridiculously low. Um, in my industry for for, you know, candy, Marsville County charges me $55 to inspect each of my scales. So, $55 for little scale, $50 for entire house.

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You know, in fairness, the $50 is is low and it can be justified going up. It's it's a part of the business pro plan. Um, so I don't think raising it above $50 should be an issue at all. It's there's more work involved. There's more documentation. Um, the one thing that

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was brought up during the the short-term rental work group, which I do want to just put on the table again, is as we see these laws increase, especially with like fire safety, smoke detectors, carbon monoxide, stuff like that, we are concerned about the safety of the those

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who reside in these in these, you know, residential structures. we really should thinking about how they apply for short-term and year round because I mean the safety is the safety. So we have we have no inspections, no

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fees or anything for year round rentals. So at some point down, you know, we have to balance, you know, the where we're focusing. We want people to be safe, >> you know, in a safe environment. And uh I do see some traction moving forward with some of these laws because we don't

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want to see tragedies that have happened reoccur do at all. Um so I guess circling back to the fee structure, I think it is it is um very reasonable to increase the fees. Um we want to cover the cost of of maintaining the program

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um because it is a lot more effort to you know inspect a either house or a cottage or something. Um so that time, documentation, paperwork, and everything else um can be justified with a higher fee. It's reasonable.

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>> Okay. Sherry. >> Um yeah, I I agree with Corey. I just wanted to note some of the fees so that put the, you know, public in perspective of where we're at. We're at $50. Province Town is 750. Well, Fleet's 300

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with an inspection fee. And then Province I Province Town's 750, Dennis is 500. And you know, I I feel that we can I don't I don't feel we need to to stagger an increase at all. Um based on

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what we're seeing here, I'm be happy to uh go right to the 200. I think it should be more, but I wouldn't, you know, I don't want to be a hypocrite when I've um when I have been talking about fees for other businesses and not and and not, you know, and and wanting

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to to uh support them. So, I wouldn't go any further, but I think it's an extremely affordable fee based on, you know, examples Corey has met be being in a business or anything else. You know, a commercial um shellfish license is, you

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know, $250. you know, um so and you're not going to be making, you know, $20,000 a week on a, you know, on a clan flat. So, let's keep it in perspective there, too. Um so, I would be um I I like the idea of

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aligning with the fis with the calendar year makes a lot of sense. U most renewal licenses go like that. Um, and I also feel that um, you know, we can go ahead with just a a straight up increase

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without a stagger. So, I'll be okay with the 200. I'd like to go higher, but I think the recommendation of the staff for the funding, you know, to be able to fund fund the program is is makes a lot of sense. Really appreciate all the work that's been done in the last few short years on this.

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>> Thank you. Um, Jeff, did you want to say something? >> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I I agree uh with both Corey and and Shireen. 200's probably the level to to get to. I agree that they should be on the calendar year. That's when most folks, you know, pay attention to paying fees and what other fees in town run. Um

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I also agree with the notion of uh checking out year- round rentals and having the same uh rules and regs apply to to year- rounds as well. Um and I would move that we ask respect we uh ask the board of health to take a good hard look and have a public hearing with with respect there too.

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Okay, there is a motion, draft motion, which we might want to adjust. I I I would echo what everyone else has said, and I'm okay with the $200 be uh not staggered. Um so, Mr. Mr. Dykens, your motion would be to that this um select

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board request that the board of health consider aligning the short-term rental registration certificate term with the calendar year and adjusting the short-term rental fee uh to $200 >> uh to cover program administrative costs. I'm striking the phrase as necessary.

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>> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Any further discussion, conversation? I don't hear see any. Um we'll we'll um call the role. Uh Miss Davis. Hi >> Mr. Dykins. Hi. >> Mr. Meadows. Hi. >> And the chair votes size four to zero.

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Okay. So that will go to the board of health. Thank you all. Thank you very much. >> All right. That's the final um agenda item. U we'll entertain the final motion for the evening. >> Motion to adjurnn. Please >> a second.

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>> Moved and seconded to adjourn. Call the role. Miss Davis. >> I. >> Mr. Dyer. Hi. >> Mr. Matters. I >> Mr. Smith >> I >> and the chair votes I we are adjourned at 7:22 p.m. Good night Cadam.