Heat. Heat. Welcome everyone to today's Town of Cadams County Board of Appeals meeting. The date is February 5th, 2026. I'm going to ask Miss Fenwick to deliver
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the town's website as soon as possible. >> We need a vote to make this official. Start with Mr. Beach, please. >> Yes. Uh David H. Beach, and I approve of this meeting format. >> Uh Ed Actton, I approve. Paul C. Simple, I approve this format.
>> Randy Podash, I approve. >> Virginia Fenwick, I approve. >> Steven D. Deborne, I approve. >> Lee Hubby, I approve. >> And David S. Nixon, I approve. Uh, today the chair is going to be Randy. She has spent the last year learning
everything there is to know about 40 bees. And I hate to waste that expertise and have her try to coach me. So, not only would this be true today, but following with other 40bs on the two that we currently have that we're
working on. So, uh, thank you Randy for coming to my rescue and I turn the meeting over to you, please. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, welcome everybody. So, the procedural steps for today would be the roll call vote of all
board members, which we just did. Um, so the first thing we're going to do is have an administrative review and vote on proposed design and management building for 1533 Main Street. Sarah, do you need to read the advertisement for that at all? >> No, it's just to satisfy uh there is no
legal advertisement for it. It's just a board action and a vote. It has been on the website. Um, so it's just the satisfaction of condition number nine of the comprehensive permit. >> Okay. So, very good. Um, so there will not be public comment on this portion of the meeting today. Um, so we should turn
it over to Penrose, I think, for to show us the design that you've um crafted and we all have a copy of it, but this is just so it's public. >> Sure. Thank you, Madam Chair. For the
record, >> my name is Rio Seci with Penrose. Um, what I'd like to do is we have uh attending the meeting virtually our architect Paul Atman from Union Studios. Um, so Sarah, I'm not sure if he has the
v uh ability to speak. He does. Okay, perfect. And I'll let Paul uh walk the board through the updated plans for the management building. >> Thank you, Rio. Can everyone hear me? >> Yes. Welcome, Paul.
>> Hi. Nice to see everyone again. This time I I think this is the first time I've uh attended via Zoom. So um it's not in person, but I would like to just give you a little overview of the refined uh management building design.
If we could go to the very first page, Sarah, this here is an ex uh a sheet showing example imagery of area architecture that is very much in keeping with the proposed design of the management building. You'll see that
they are perceived to be one and a halfstory buildings with a prominent gable facing the street and a let's say a tail or an Lshape that is a lower uh lower ridge line and lower roof
profile that extends off to the left or right. uh in the upper right that is an example of a gable end without a front entrance to the street but rather the front entrance coming in from the side under a covered porch. And that is
really what we are proposing uh for our development because of the the way the uh site is laid out and the entry points into and out of the uh the site with the drive lane. the the side porch and side
entry which is really the prominent entry main entry to the building is still very reflective and uh visible from the street as a main entrance even though it sits on the corner of the the driveway and the uh main street. So the
next slide is showing the uh revised footprint which everyone if if everyone remembers the original plan it was about 4500 square ft. We've reduced it by over 50% from the original design by the
elimination of the fitness room and the multi-purpose room. Uh there was a discussion about taking uh moving the L portion or the right hand side of the maintenance storage and maintenance shop uh 2 ft further to the back away from
Main Street to make that inset a little bit more defined and prominent for uh visible from the main street. Next slide. We'll be working our way around the building. This here is the elevation facing Main Street with a nice
gable end, three windows on the ground floor on the gable end and three windows on the maintenance uh shop on the L shape of the building. Then the next slide is moving toward the left. It's really the the the rear of the building
that has the access door to the maintenance shop. The next slide is the elevation that will be facing the common green and the the residences. And on the left, yep, this next one is
now the uh prominent the entrance side of the building with the covered mailboxes under the covered porch and the the door into the management suite on the right. And then this here is a 3D view of what that smaller building looks
like. And then the streetscape that uh we've been updating along the way. Uh and you'll see that building 10 now sits still in between both buildings 9 and one uh flanked on either side by the
drive lane into the uh neighborhood. So that is the recap of the revised building design and I'm be willing to answer any questions. >> Thank you very much. Dave V, do you have
any questions? >> Um, no, I don't have questions for any. >> No. Okay. Any comments? Anything like that? >> I I'm to me it looks like it belongs there. I think it's it's fitting architecturally with the site and the
the area. Uh, and I love porches, so >> Yeah. Oh, great. Yeah. >> Okay. Now, I'm gonna go around this side. Dave Nixon, any comments, questions? >> No. No comments? >> No. Lee? >> Um, no questions. Um, I agree with Dave Beach. I love porches, too. They said it
it did say it was a threeseason porch, which not sure about that. >> In the beginning, the >> Paul adim. Yeah. >> Yes. We are not proposing a threeseason porch. This is a completely open porch.
The the example at the very front of the package in the upper right >> image that is showing a entrance on the right side of the building, but over time that has been you can see there's a row of windows at the far right where
the cursor is. uh that that there was probably enclosed at one time, but that that is an older building that's been modified over the years. >> Okay. Okay. I I I I understand now that they're describing that building and not your management building.
>> Yeah. No, that was confusing at the beginning because we were looking at four separate buildings, some of which are not even in Chadam, but just to understand where this um came from. Um it came from because it's going to evoke
um the HBDC theme of um historic business district as we asked for as a Greek revival. Right. >> Correct. >> Okay. No, I like that style. I like the Greek revival style. >> Okay. Um Jenny,
>> good afternoon. Paul, couple of quick questions for you. I believe um there there were a couple iterations of the design, but could you just confirm that the the overall height so the taller uh side of the structure is the gable end and the height of that is the
25 ft. Is that right? >> Yes. Mhm. >> Okay. Can you confirm the height of the wing roof line or L? I think you refer to it as the L roof line. >> I could get that dimension to you. I don't have it on hand. Uh it's probably about two two and a half ft lower than
the main bridge line. >> It is lower. That That's fine. You don't need to get that. I just wanted to make sure it was lower. Um and then also the um the L or the wing is recessed. Um, it's sort of hard to see it here on the flat picture, but it does look like it on the
the floor plan or the bird's eye view that it's looks like it's well, it's more than four feet because I can see that to the left, but is it about six feet recessed in from the gable front gable portion? >> No, it's between four and five.
>> Okay. All right. That's >> I think it's actually four. >> Four? >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah, four. I would say four. >> Okay. It looked a little more than four when I looked at that. That's fine. I just wanted to uh get a sense of that how much that was recessed back. Thank
you. >> Y Steve, while we're over here, >> um just to verify a couple things. Um it's going to be the siding is white clabbered on all four sides, painted white. >> Yes. >> Okay. And uh asphalt shingles to match
the rest of the buildings. >> Yes. They may vary in color, but it'll be asphalt shingles. >> Okay. Just to verify. All right. Thank you. Mhm. >> And Ed, your thoughts? >> Uh, no, it look looks look looks fine to me. Uh, is there I guess shutters on
this? I know some of them had shutters, some of them didn't. It doesn't Your plan doesn't show any shutters, so just curious. >> No shutters. >> No shutters. Okay. >> And Paul, >> I had no questions or concerns. >> No. Okay. Very good. And uh I'm just
going to point out that the porch is on the side. Um, usually these porches are on the front, but the reason why it's on the side is because that's where the mailboxes are and it'll be a somewhat of a gathering place and it probably wouldn't be appropriate to have that
right on 28. Okay. So, um, with that, we should take a vote on this and everybody can vote whether or not you voted no on the project. I would say I I know that this board wants the best for Chadam and if you want to vote on this separate and
distinct from your opinion on the project that would be welcome and if you don't want to do it that way that's fine too. So uh Dave V, what do you say? >> Do you want a motion? >> We need a motion. Yes. >> Oh, we need a motion. Yes. So Paul, >> I'll [clears throat] move to approve the
uh uh proposed plan with respect to the management building as proposed. Uh, yes. Dave H will second and vote yes. >> All votes yes. >> Jenny. [clears throat] >> Well, since I voted for no management building, I'm going to vote no.
>> Sure. And Mr. Nixon, >> I will abstain. >> All right. And I will vote yes, and that will make it happen. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Well, that was easier than the next part. Um, all right. So the next portion of
this is um let's see the ad let's see hearing notice for meeting house uh will be read by staff application number 25-077 Penrose LLC 15 Milk Street 16th floor Boston Mass 02109
the property is owned by the town of Chadam located at zero meeting house road also shown on the town of Chadam's assessor's map 4E block 11A lot AB applicants are requesting the grant of a comprehensive permit under master law chapter number 40B sections 20 through 23 and 760 CMR56
for the construction of 42 dwelling units in eight structures. The applicants are requesting the grant of various waiverss from regulations promulgated by the Chattam zoning bylaw and other local regulations. The property contains 3.57 acres in the R60 zoning district. This
was continued from August 14th, September 4th, October 16th, November 13th, December 10th of 2025, and January 15th of 2026. >> Welcome, Penrose. >> Thank you. >> Um, so
>> for the record, I'm Marian Rose here um from Singer and Singer um taking the place of Andrew Singer today. Um Andrew wrote a letter dated January 30th asking for a continuence to March 5th and we are here to ask for that continuence.
>> Okay. And uh we will have a motion on that and uh vote on it in a couple of minutes. Um so this is an open meeting and so because of that um I'm going to sort of take it as we usually do with meetings. Um is there anybody on the
board that has any questions about this? Anybody? >> Um, yes, Steve. >> I was going to ask how this affects the uh the end date that we because we're under the gun to make a decision by a certain date. Correct. >> And what is that date, Sarah?
>> Um, public hearing has been extended and must be closed by May 10th. >> Okay. And uh so I will let you talk, but I just want to say that in the event we get close, I would imagine that you will um grant us a continuence so that we can
finish this uh you know civily. >> Does that make sense? >> Another extension. >> Another extension if we need it. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. And uh also um could you give us um a brief status report on
why you need another continuence and what you think will happen uh on uh uh what is it March 5th? >> Pastor Rio on this. >> Sure. Um we understand uh I understand
the board wants to see progress and and the public as well and uh progress and clarity. Um, we've been actively working on potential revisions um to the plans to address, you know, pretty significant
feedback that we had received from both the board and the public at at the last public hearing. And um but we're not ready yet. And so this continuence will allow us to come back with the revisions
that that we're looking at making but being fully baked. Um, and that way it'll give the board and the public a a a better um presentation to see to properly evaluate. >> Okay. Oh, sorry. Okay. And before I see
if there's anybody from the public that wants to take one minute to to opine on this, um, I just want to make a correction that I've been sitting on since December 10th. Um, there was a misstatement on December 10th about the number of units in the LDA land
disposition agreement. Um indeed 42 is the maximum permissible not the minimum. So that's a big difference in you know because it was said twice at the last meeting that the minimum is 42. It is
not. I went through it. I think I even sent you a copy of that. So um I just want to make that clear so that there's no make no mistake. That's the cap 42. So, um, just wanted to you to acknowledge that.
>> Sure. I'm acknowledging it, but I don't think that it was that I had made that statement. I I had said that that was a minimum Penrose would develop. >> You did. You did, but it was but it was all in the context of the LDA. And I'm I'm not, you know, trying to make a deal
out of it. I just want the public to understand that 42 is the cap, not not the minimum because that's important, especially with what we were dealing with last time. It's it's very important. Okay. So, is there anybody from the public that wants to make a up to a one minute statement about the
issue of the continuence only? No. Anybody online? Okay. Very good. So, we have we're under a motion. No, we don't. We need a motion, Paul. We need a motion. >> All right. I move to grant the requested
continuence to March 5, 2026. >> Uh Dave V seconds and votes yes. >> Paul votes yes. >> Randy votes yes. Jenny votes yes. >> I vote yes. >> Very good. So that's unanimous. >> We'll see you then. >> Thank you. >> Appreciate it.
>> Okay. One more motion. >> I'll move to adjourn. >> Davey second. Zoom votes yes. >> I'll vote yes. >> Jenny votes yes. >> I vote yes. >> Yes. And Good evening everyone. >> What time is it?