the 19th, 2025 meeting of the capital planning committee to order. This meeting is being video recorded for rebroadcast by Chumsford Tele media this evening. Uh first on the agenda, we will be hearing um some presentations
on a number of school facility projects. Uh the first project is number 22 on your project detail sheets. And this evening we have Dr. Jay Lang, superintendent of schools and public works director Christine Clancy to walk us through these projects.
Good evening. >> What was that? 22, John 22. >> Yes, project 22. >> Good evening. I think we're going to jointly present these projects. Um, and I'll kick it off with the first project. Um, the first project is a roof study uh project, a various school roof study
project. Um and as I had mentioned last week is we're really coming upon a time where a lot of our roofs are of the same age or buildings of the same age. So um systematically a lot of our roof roof replacements occur at the same time um unfortunately or fortunately. But um so
in the next five years even several years we have roof significant roof projects um tens of millions of dollars of roof projects throughout our municipal buildings but also our schools. Right now we're doing our south row roof school project. We'll be receiving bids on that in a couple weeks. We're right now designing the
McCarthy phase one, which is the area above the um gymnasiums and the cafeteria. Um but we have a lot ahead of us. Um and so to the two projects we have that we really need to understand the scope in more detail and the level
of estimate cost is the remaining or three roofs the remaining portions of the McCarthy middle school roof um and and then the Harrington school roof and then also the Chunford High School school roof. All three of these roofs um
are uh between 19 and 22 years of age. We do a roof assessment annually and these all three of these roofs have been flagged as zero to two years remaining in life. So they recommended for re uh replacement. Um we do have some cost
data that we've been carrying. So we're carrying right now about $9 million for the Chelford High School roof. Three three I think it's three and a half million for the Harrington school in McCarthy. This portion also about um I think it's like five or six million. So it's pretty it's very significant cost.
Um and we really want to understand that cost and understand you know how do we phase that uh we have a placeholder how we plan to do it. So this stud this is a request to do a study to to look at the three buildings and see what do we think the actual scope of work is what's bel because right now you can look at the
roof and that's from our visual annual inspection but is there a second layer of roofing material below it that we have to remove. um is is there one of these three roofs? We think the McCarthy school roof is the next roof to continue with, but maybe the Chumster High School roof needs to be addressed beforehand.
Um so it would really help with potential phasing recommendations. Um or even some repair like maybe we can buy five years on one of these roofs if we do some repairs in a certain area. Um, this would include test cuts, um, test cuts, uh, schematic design or really
preliminary design, um, of all three sections. Uh, and we would then use this to help build and, uh, reinforce our capital plan as we move forward. Um, the amount requested amount is $100,000. And it because the loan to do the test
cuts, get on the roof, do the test cuts, do those repairs, um, and go through a a detailed analysis. All three of these roofs do have solar panels on them. So um these solar panels are about uh for by the time we do this study about four uh 12 13 years old. So we would also
likely replace them. So that would be part of the analysis to come up with a um estimated cost uh and replacement plan for that as well. Are there any questions on this particular study request? The next one is
>> is the building safety and security. Do you want to go over this one? >> I just didn't know which order they were in. >> Yes. >> Um so this request before you this evening is um to actually fund a project at two of our schools, Baym uh and South Row
Elementary Schools. And this is the um replacement of the clock system in basically all of our schools is beyond um end of life. Um so the clock system, the intercom system, the PA system um has been due for an upgrade for uh for
quite some time. This past summer, our own IT department um implemented a new we call ENS system. It's an emergency notification system. It's an all-in-one system that actually has an integrated um clock um notification system with
both audible and visual um flashers in the event of an emergency in the school. Um integrated PA system so you can talk to classrooms. Um so we actually have kind of the hard budget numbers because we just completed this project this past year. Um we're looking at probably uh
because again we can't do all the schools at one time even from an operational standpoint. It's just too much work for us to do. Um but also being m mindful of how much money we have available for capital trying to phase this over the next uh three to four years. Um Harrington and Baym are
the same blueprint. So we know the uh the true value that we just did at Harrington will carry over to Bay. So we have a firm number on that. And as Christine had mentioned earlier this summer we're going to be replacing the roof um and the interior ceiling at South Row Elementary School. So, while
the ceiling's already exposed, it makes sense to do the wiring uh at at center uh south row, I'm sorry, while the ceiling is already down. So, that's why we picked that school. Um I do feel those numbers are true numbers uh the the quarter million dollars to do those two buildings. And also wanted to just
kind of foreshadow for the group that over the next couple of years, you'll likely see another two schools the following year and another two schools the following year until we get through them all. Um but this system again integrates with um and replaces clock intercom PA. Um it also ties in with um
our central office system in the event of an emergency and it also ties in with police dispatch and the police department. So it's a fully integrated system >> and that's across all all school buildings and and central admin. It's it's all integrated and >> the communication system. Yes. Right now
we only have it at Harrington. We did Harrington last summer. So this would be to do two more schools this coming summer. Eventually all seven schools would have it. We just have to phase it because of the the the cost and also just the time consuming um piece to do
the installation. Any questions? Uh next project before you is um another um building and safety and security upgrade. This again is also a pretty significant number and you see this is a significant number in fiscal 27 and even in the outlier years. Um all of our
schools are due for um upgraded to really new uh building intrusion systems. Um this is the basic security system primarily in the first floor of uh buildings. Um also at the same time we've been having a um fire panels in the buildings have been um having
different alarms and issues on that front. So we're proposing to do again is to scale this back and accomplish a couple of schools a year. It's not a type of a project where we can just kind of wait and do it all at the same time. But we think capacity-wise it makes sense to go back to Harrington because
last summer we had done the uh the full building system um to integrate this piece and then buy and because we'll be doing the um the hopefully the clock and intercom system this summer. It would make sense to have those two buildings be complete. Um but $400,000 is the budget figure. We feel confident that
the $400,000 will get us through these first two schools. Um we are um curious when we go out to bid for some of this cost. Originally, this also figure or the higher figure, the $1.1 million included, um the door contacts on all
the exterior doors tying into our um swipes. I'm forgetting the name of it, but our keypad system that also integrates to our security system. So, as we've upgraded the door projects over the last couple of years, we've actually already added contacts in many locations. So, the wiring is a
significant cost for that. So, that cost is not going to be obviously necessary. So, we'd like the $400,000 to be able to implement this in the first two schools and then we'll actually be able to use that as a better gauge to figure out as we project for 28 29 and 30 what a true cost for the project would be. Again,
just trying to be sensitive to again budget and timeliness to do this project. But this would accomplish that at Bay and Harrington for this coming summer. >> Dr. Lang, um, so it says fire panel system. So is it just the fire panels or
is it all the components under the um fire system? So um smokes, heats, those you know and all the wiring combined or is this just >> um >> our main issues are with the panels, the panels themselves and some of the tie-ins. I mean there are certainly some
um >> um sensors in the buildings that are just continually like defective and they end up tripping the the fire panel. So, uh, as part of the analysis, they would go through and identify those and likely change out those, um, sensors just so we're not constantly in a fault type mode. >> Is an addressable system and we'll just
replace miscellaneous components that aren't reporting correctly today are that send false signals today. Yes, that's included under the scope, the panel itself, and then any of the miscellaneous continuous faults um on
the fire panels and then the um the regular kind of burglar system. Um we do need to add some additional um contact points on that because we do have some dead areas that aren't getting picked up. >> No problem. Thank you. >> You mentioned the logic around
integrating the timing of this project. Is there any potential savings to be had if these projects are awarded together, this one and the previous one, or is that already taken into account in the in the cost estimates? >> No, it's already taken into account in
the cost estimates for these two programs. Um, I don't again I don't know what the again the fuller cost of like the $1.1 million. I think by doing these first two schools, we're going to have a much better sense in the outlier years of what costs um may be more accurate.
But um we've already assumed scale in these first two. Um the first three projects as we as John kind of forwarded with the updated stuff all fall under our kind of safety and security. Uh we really um hoping to do all these at the same time and bundle them. >> Correct. And we're already going to have work happening in the buildings. It just
makes sense to try to um to do that. >> Okay. So next our next project is number 25 um the biome school parking lot. >> So this is a request to um completely rehabilitate the bi biome school elementary school parking lot um and
also improve ADA accessibility throughout the parking lot. Um the whole area is pretty sizable. Um we did have engineering go out and re-evaluate this and come up with a detailed cost estimate and that's how we've arrived at the $700,000. Um, as you can see in this photo, really the pavement is completely
unraveling. Um, going back to probably a few years ago, we have we received a lot of requests both as we head into the winter and then as we head into the spring, um, for our DPW to go out and to patch these areas and it's really difficult to do so because the pavements is really unraveling. Um, it's costly
because it's not just a mill and overlay where you take a couple inches of asphalt off. You have to completely um, create redo the subbase as well. So, it's it's the pulverizing where we go in, we pulverize the the asphalt um and so it basically creates a new subbase
and then you grade it and then you put in a whole new um asphalt uh base and top coat material. Um also throughout here there's a lot of slope granite curbing that's um severely like cracked and is really it's some we looked at could we remove it and reset it, but it
just makes sense to remove it and um replace it with new curbing. So, that is also in in the cost. Um, also would include ADA accessibility improvements. Um, the location of some crosswalks. They just are we there's improvements that can be made to provide better improved accessibility um from the
parking lot and into the entrances at the school. This area is including the whole entrance which is a pretty, you know, decent length of entrance. Um, and then as the area wraps around the biome school. So, it will go behind the biome school also include the basketball court area. There is a parking area right in
the middle of all this that is in relatively fair shape. It was done about 10 12 years 10-15 years ago. Um so that will that will remain in place. We do not have to to do that as part of this work. Um and we'll look at you know ADA handicap parking spaces as well as part
of that as well. Um this would be designed in-house. So there is a savings um that which is included in this cost estimate. So we would do it in house. We wouldn't have to hire a designer to do so. Um and we would do this project next summer. >> Curbing replaced with granite.
>> Yes. Gr. Yes. So slope granite with granite. Yes. >> Does this include the sidewalks around the school at all? >> This does not include any sidewalks. I mean if there's w basically if there's pedestrian ramps um that need improvement that would be yes. So that will be replaced. But as far as any
sidewalks um that will not be included. And we don't really have Yeah, it's just really I guess it's just there's a concrete there's concrete there's a couple concrete ramps I think that we'll have to maybe do. Yeah. Right in the front. >> No, there is a separate uh project
sidewalk the Parker Parkerville Road project that that will add sidewalks um along Parkerville. Um but no sidewalks along along this area. >> Okay. All right. Uh this next project um for the schools is at Harrington Elementary
School and this would be to uh replace the um kitchen floor, both the kitchen uh the preparation area as well as the service area where the students come in to uh to get their food with a code compliant non-slip uh flooring service. Um this is something that we have uh
done again several of the schools we've been trying to do um the school every year or so. Um this just continually comes up with the different health inspections uh at the school that the health um not health department but the health inspector um just cites the need for a code compliant non-slip floor in
the kitchens. Uh that's a a pretty true number based on again we know Harrington and Baym are the same layout. Uh so that was the number that Bayam came in at. So we're confident that that number will cover the project. So when you do these, do you tear up all
It looks like quarry tile flooring down there. Do you tear all that out, level the floor, and then go back with the non-slip or do you just go do you level over the quarry and then just put the new flooring down? >> No. And that's actually just a stock photo. Um that's not what that floor
actually um looks like. It's just to represent us redoing the floor. But no, the quarry tile would come up and it would more of like one of those acrylic kind of port floors that has the base um kind of wraps up on the baseboard >> like epoxy floor. >> Like an epoxy floor is what would go into place. Yeah.
>> Perfect. >> And our next project is the birectional. >> Thank you very much. Um I'm sorry I just didn't have these in the right order. So uh this request is um kind of the third on our list under uh safety and security. This uh actually had come up
um a couple of different times and this would be to add a birectional antenna system to McCarthy Middle School um to help with radio uh connectivity within the building. Um obviously the school uh staff are on radios during the day. We
have SRO's and we're in contact with the police department, different um emergency responders during the day. McCarthy is a tough school for us because of just the age, the vintage of the building materials. There are dead spots within the building where you can't always um pick up a radio connection. So, uh this is something we
actually done at the high school a couple years ago because we're having uh issues with radio connectivity within the building. U but this will actually help the school department and police department radios uh communicate better with each other. I think fortunately I think this is the last one we're going to have to do as
well. The other buildings, although again it's a similar type issue with the materials used, they're just a smaller footprint and we haven't had the the level at the elementary schools, the level of dead zones or dead spots that we've had at the the larger schools like um McCarthy and the high school.
>> Where does the antenna is it goes on a roof or where does it get installed? >> That's a question for the professionals. Uh so I I know that uh somehow there is a an antenna on the roof but somehow it actually also integrates into the building and it ties into our network
system so that um it it's a repeat system. >> Okay. Okay. I'm just saying because we're doing the roof. I don't know. >> Oh no no it's not going to interfere with >> Okay. That was my question. Okay. >> Okay. Our next project the locker room stuff. Um, thank you. This is a uh
smaller ask um $30,000 for the uh school department. We've had uh in fiscal 27 about a $600,000 uh renovation to the high school locker rooms in our uh fiscal planning. Um the locker rooms have been used as we we kind of get ready for capital planning. They've been
used in different ways. Um they've kind of, you know, made them work over the years. There definitely needs to be some improvements to both the boys and the girls um locker rooms and team rooms at the high school. Um, again, just trying to be u conscious of budget and uh timeliness as well. Um, I think we'd
like to take a step back and hopefully fund this with a smaller, you know, $30,000 allocation as opposed to 600 to have um a designer come on board and actually work with us to do some um rendering, some review of the existing space materials. um actually again kind of do a preliminary design of the space,
do a true cost estimate of what the kind of hopeful uh space will be at this point to then be able to get this back into uh cycle for 2829 30 going forward. But um we weren't prepared this year to ask for the 600 without really a concrete um plan because things have
changed a couple uh times and we think it would just be better suited to uh fund a a smaller study to actually then be able to do the preliminary design, put together some of the um kind of the bid package that would go out and um also be able to do some better cost estimating based on the materials that
would ultimately be selected for the two spaces. Can we borrow for I just just took for a design project? >> I will look into it. I believe we can, but I will look into it. >> And then the final project um is the
Chumpset High School roof. There's one more after that. >> There's one more after that. >> I'm sorry. Couple more. >> Excuse me. >> So, this is um so even though previously we earlier I had asked for a request to do a study of the Chumsford High School, we do know that there's one section of
the high school roof um that we could break out as a separate project. Um and that is the area above the the cafeteria and the kitchen pictured here to lower roof. Um, and this area, um, does receive the most leaks, has the biggest, largest leak history. Um, there's a lot
going on there with different, uh, different, uh, pipe penetrations and the different equipment on the roof. So, it is a kind of a complicated area, but we've had a history of leaks, unfortunately, in in this area. Um, so this is a request to do the design and the construction of this area. Um, just
over 16,000 square feet. This roof is 19 years old. Um like I said, it has active leaks. Uh this project we doing the test cuts, the budgeting, the design, take it through CD. Um and also the um the construction as well. Uh given the
timing of it, you probably would do the design next year and you would be you would actually do the construction in uh the year 2027. Uh that summer would likely be the the timeline. Um also here there's solar panels. So, we would look at that as well just to see if we could
we would be likely removing and replacing them. Um, this this image that's shown is taken directly from our um roof assessment management report. And so, each number denotes some type of failure. Um, not always a leak. Sometimes there's exposed fasteners.
There's um there's uh flashing missing. So, there's different um different defects identified. And like I said, we saw this as a need. Like we have so many needs coming um in the next few future years. So we said, why don't we just try to break out a piece of the Chunford High School roof? And this just made
sense because it is a lower roof section. >> Okay. There's no questions on the roof. Well, um, >> so this is, um, school committee priority number four that we're talking about. Is that >> combined with the first one
>> combined with that's that's my question. So this, so the first one we talked about for the 100,000 gets added to the million for the 1.1 million that we're looking at for the cost. >> I guess I had I had broken out as two separate requests. I don't Is that what you're asking? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So it's 1.1 million. I see I mean I I have to I gave my um prior I mean this is important but that roof study is so essential because we're trying to understand what the actual cost is. Um so it's a one one it's two separate requests as I would I guess clarify.
>> Thank you. And when I the chumps high school study was going to focus on the entire area. And so we probably would actually omit this piece because we would I mean we could potentially study it was just a study. But if we if we were theoretically to move forward with both both projects, the study would focus on
the entire roof area outside of this area. Um and this project would actually be advancing design and construction. I guess if this wasn't funded, we probably would still look at incorporating it into some type of study if we could. it's actively leaking. And so we've been
there. If you look at our history, we um it's the area we're called to the most at at the high school >> for at least a few years. >> MBA can't make that. >> Yes. So the as far that's a good point
because the MSBA so yeah you can apply when the roofs are 25 years old um and then by the time you actually construct the probably 28 years old McCarthy would actually be the best candidate because that is the closest to 25 years all the other roofs are 19 20 21 years 22 years
old so that's why it's important to do that study because if I can if that study can say yes you can get an extra 3 to five years out of the roof um it might make sense to try to hold that for the next MSBA project If it says no, this is in horrible condition. Um, then
we know we can't apply that as the next MSBA application. >> Yeah, that's good information for us to have. Thank you. >> Yeah, it's it varies. It's like a sliding scale. So, I've seen 26 2 I I
usually don't see 25. Um, I see 28, 29, 30. Yeah. So it's so um and our new roofs are being built for 30 years. >> This is one of the largest single projects. Is there any opportunity to
phase this over two years or >> so this project like I mean you it's hard to break up a roof project. So we identified this because it's a lower roof. Um and also I mean I was as that's a thing too is we we don't have great
cost data. We're going based on what our con what our engineers are telling us. We currently have a south row out to bid. Um and so like the Southro school originally we were thinking okay it's $1.5 million project. That's a $4.5 million project. But I'm also hearing
that roof projects are coming in a million dollars under. So is so I really need some more cost data to say is this a $1 million project? Is it $800,000? So we hopefully you know we with the McCarthy phase one we'll get numbers on that in the next couple months. We'll get south row within the next month. Um,
but right now I have to plan for the worst and that includes the solar. There's a cost for the solar as well. >> Yeah. So the the the study will look at different phasing. So that's really that's critical. But this piece right here I think it's going to be very difficult to chop up. I mean theoretic
yes you could you could do a repair you could do half the roof. Then anytime you're left with a seam, that's probably a potential point of failure in the future. >> Okay. Any further questions on the group at all? >> And then project 30,
>> the last request of the night is the uh switch gear rehabilitation and panel board replacement pro. I call it a program because uh we started this with the ARPA program where we completed uh panel board replacements at the McCarthy school. Um and also it's really a two-phase. They do panel board
replacements and that's what you see right here. These are the panel boards in the Southro school that was just recently voted at Falltown meeting to do that here. Um and they also will continue that with the the high school. um with that with so we've done art we've done opera with McCarthy we're
moving forward with south row the high school but we know we have to really get through all of our schools biome um eventually the center school the community ed so we're asking for an additional $150,000 um we do think the high school we might not have enough of the $400,000 to finish the high school there's so many
panel boards um there it is panel board replacement and also they go through the existing switch gear and they really do a tuneup on it and then they see if there's any parts that have to be uh rehabilitated. Um many of these these are original to the building and so it's
really uh difficult to replace it but it is a great uh process because they go through they test everything and then if there's something that's significant risk um then they recommend replacement of that that piece. Um and it's it's so critical. This is our really the switch
gear system. This is what steps down the electricity as it comes into the building and and distributes the power throughout the building. if we don't have this working, we don't have school. So, it's and if it's down, if if it's down, it could be very difficult to replace um or to repair. So, um it's
really, you know, a major uh critical infrastructure component of each of our schools. >> Yeah. Time I mean time. Yes. And so, and I guess the a so for the McCarthy, we did we did complete the McCarthy repair. We replaced 22 panel board systems. Um,
and they also went through the switch gear. Um, and they found one part that needed to be re re uh completely rehabilitated. Um, they can't just order a new part. These these systems are really obsolete and they actually they'll check around the country to see if there's a spare part, but they had to rebuild one part and there was another
part that had some um deficiencies, but they were able to do a tuneup on it. So, that eliminated that risk. >> So, this is supplemental to the 400,000. This is supple. So we we really think we need to ask for this on a annual basis if we can um at least for the
foreseeable future. >> So the original scope was replace all the panel boards. >> So so cost data on this is also all over the place. So originally with ARPA with the McCarthy we were the original estimate was $300,000 I think to replace
the McCarthy and then the bids came in at 140. So we're trying we're taking that number to estimate what's necessary at Southro school, but then we have so many more panels at the high school that we think there's a larger cost. So we have I guess we we're not certain how far this $400,000 is going to stretch
the $400,000 that was appropriated at South Row for South Row that will that will definitely complete Southro and then it might not complete all of the Chelms High School. We don't know. So it's continuing. So this request is to if needed continue with the Chelmsford
High School and then jump to Bay um Baym Harrington. So it's really just to go through all the schools. Um >> how do you identify pan are you doing infrared studies or something like that of the panels and saying okay this panel's just >> that that's what Yeah. So the the
consultant that comes in comes in does a study. The thing is is so for all of these in in South Row there was no infrared study needed. They the the electrical engineer walked in and said these are obsolete and just replace them. So it's really a it's a the panel boards are more of a age. The switch
gear system is a whole they come in and they do I call a tuneup and they um I guess that's separate but it's critical and it's really two parts. It's the panel board systems and it's the switch gear. um
having not had a lot of time to think about it, but um you know, we have we're we're you know, we we have an effort to go electric as we go forward in town and so on and so forth. So, does that change our power
requirements at the school such that at some point we need to look at new switch gear any which way? uh because we might have to go from a 1600 amp system to a 2,000 amp system or what have you.
>> Yes, potentially. So, that is something that we'd have to look at if we were to completely that was So, we looked at through the the school electrification study. How would we electrify each building? Um there was some assumption assumed that you'd have to upgrade the
infrastructure. And if you upgrade the switch gear system, you're taking down walls. You're talking millions of dollars. So it's significant. I don't know. I guess we don't have enough information to know exactly what that load requirement is. We just went through it at the for the fire station project and they were sizing the amp
service and I don't think it's actually increased because also like the LED lighting it's actually a lighter load. Um so it depends I guess but given you know if we were to switch from what we have gas to electrical boilers I would I would think we would have to have an
increase in amper in in power. Um, and so that's this is based on the current load. Um, and and this is a rehabilitation, not a replacement. Replacement is what I've been told is potentially millions. >> Thank you.
>> Right. Any further questions? All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. So that's our final school project for this evening. So based on so on the agenda um our town and Darlene Lucia
prepared a um summary of recaptured funds from prior year projects uh the totals u just over 149,000. Darling, did you want to discuss any of the projects at all or >> No, I mean it's pretty selfexplanatory.
I mean the um for the uh forum ice refrigeration that project was um that was about god six years ago. It's been it seems like it's most recent but it's a while ago. Uh that was originally a $1.2 million project. There's 16,000
left over there. Um the uh building is the CCA building installation. That project um actually um got done under an opera project. So we ended up not even using that money. So, that got turned back. Uh the standard truck, that was an originally
$165,000 appropriation, leaving 11,673 left. Uh the facility hybrid uh vehicle fleet, uh that was a a fiscal 23 project that was for $55,000. There's just $325,000 left of that
project. Um fiscal 24 project for the Harrington school boilers. Uh that was a $316,000 project with $29,000 7398 left over there. Uh the high school kitchen renovation which was done in fiscal 24
was uh a 2.1 almost 2.2 million project there. It's 21582 left over. uh Sander Truck and Brian uh for the DPAW again a fiscal 24 project 20 uh $215,000
was the original appropriation of $758 left over. Uh the Wesland boiler replacement that was a $260,000 uh appropriation with $760 left. And the last one was the uh medium duty DPW
patch truck. what was a 25 fiscal 25 project for $105,000 appropriation with $7,900 left over. So, and we just have um we get bond premiums from the borrowings from the prior year. We get to um put those those bond premiums
aside. So, we had a $10,000 from last year from fiscal 25's uh capital project for so we get to use that for current project. So, that added to that. >> Great. Thank you. So I just wanted to mention so last >> and I want to thank Christine Clancy
thank you for helping with finding the funding us money because I I look to her to help me with these projects. So >> so basically these funds can be applied and you'll see when we when I distribute the project um worksheets so we can work on for the the capital plan. Um you'll
see that as another funding source at the bottom. So this will defay the amount we have to borrow. I did want to mention last week a a uh committee member asked me what was the target and I said roughly 6 million. Given this amount of money um just glancing over the list I know it's going to be very
difficult to reach six. Um if committee members want to use 6.2 million as a target that is fine and we can discuss it at our next meeting but just a I just wanted to revise that number. Um >> 6 >> 6.2 million is
>> including the recapture. Yeah, because that'll it'll um that'll def you know if we that'll bring it down just close to six million that we would actually borrow. >> And then um I will distribute the project funding worksheet. So for the newer members, basically what we do is
it's a small Excel file and allows you to plug in different amounts and projects and do some s different scenarios and figure out what you want to recommend that you want to fund. And then it's a nice way to do it. And then what we'll do is we'll get everybody's
I'll have you email them back to me. I'll compile them into a list of everybody's response. And then if we have four or five votes for a certain project, we kind of know that that project has broad support. So we'll know that that's pretty much, you know, unless somebody makes a compelling
argument that will be that will be one of the funded items. then we can kind of focus our attention on the ones where people we may not the projects that may not receive many votes and then we can work from there at our third meeting. But so at this point um I did want to
mention our third meeting we're planning for Thursday, December 4th and I will send everyone an email reminder. It's actually not it will not be in this room. will be at the at the school administration building on North Road and it's in the school committee meeting
room. Um the reason that we're moving is that the zoning board of appeals uses this room that we're meeting in on the first Thursday of the month. So that's why it won't it'll avoid a scheduling conflict. So thank you to the schools for hosting us for that. And um the
minutes from November 13th I will have for you next week. So, we'll we'll I will email those out to the committee in advance and then we'll we'll be able to vote on those and let's see that brings us to our public comment. Do we have anyone like I'm not seeing anyone that would like to
make public comments, but if you would. >> Okay. >> Can I just point because I know we do have some some new members. So, um I know director Clansancy did the same thing, but you know what we did with our eight projects is we ordered them and like what we thought was the most important second one. So, as you're
making decisions, like we thought the school safety projects were the most important. So, if we were going to fund, you know, that's kind of the order we would say we would like to see, but I know director Clansancy did a similar thing with the town project. So, just as you're looking at deciding what you want to what you want to put behind. Um,
that's kind of, you know, we saw the safety, the roofs because the roof's leaking and that type is is the most important and went down from there. So, >> yeah. those priority rankings are for because you might get to a situation where you see two truck replacements around the same amount of money, but one might be ranked higher than the other. So that might help you in your decision.
Does any do any of the other committee members have any questions or anything that you like to discuss? >> So that meeting would be at 6 on the 4th. >> Yes, we'll plan that for the 6:00 on the 4th >> at the school administration building. And the rankings for all the other ones
are here. >> Yes, that's actually that's um >> yeah, I'll actually I will I'll I'll res I'll make a note to resend you that because what um director Clancy did is she took that large spreadsheet this that other one that you had in your hand
>> and she put rankings on the right side of it. >> Okay. Yeah, I would appreciate that. >> Okay, that would be great. >> I was about to ask. >> Yeah, thank you. Yeah. >> Okay, >> that would be good to know. Let me I'll email that out again. It looks a little bit like the one that you have in your hand. That's like the That's like the
summary of all the projects in the five-year plan. They look a little similar, but I'll I'll email that out to everyone. >> That would be great. Thank you. >> Yeah. And just to point out, Pat pointed out too, you know, we bundled the two roof projects together with the 100 and and the million. So, they were presented
as two different ones, but they're both involved with the roof. So, we just kind of put them in terms of our priorities, you know. So, there'd be like 4 A and 4 B if you'd rather. You really can't have one without the other. Just doesn't make any sense. >> I would I would think. >> Right. Okay.
>> All right. >> If there are no other comments or questions, um I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> I make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Sorry. Second by Cindy. All those in favor of the motion I. All those
opposed. All right. We're journal.