It being 6:00, I am calling to order the select board meeting of August 11th, 2025. If you join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the republic for it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all and justice for all. I'm fortunate there's a flag right at the end of my street. Uh this meeting is being telecast live by Chelms for Teledia and being recorded for later viewing by the public. And you'll note
that there are four of us here tonight on the select board. We do have uh member Jeff Hardy attending via Zoom. So we will be doing votes and a on a using roll call. Um okay. And first up we have
public service announcements. Okay. Um, so public uh public service announcements, uh, Chelford Health Department's monthly newsletter, a lot of information here. Um, they do a, uh, program called Breathe Together, Heal
Together, and the date is on Wednesdays from 4:00 to 5:00 p.m. at the North Chelmsford uh, Community Center. Uh, free meditation series created for individuals in recovery and the loved ones who walk beside them. Guided practices for all levels. um and uh contact the health department for more
information. Uh they also have a walking group. Um and the future dates are u one just past August 5th and the 26th 9:00 a.m. to 9:30 um at the 110 baseball field is where they'll meet. Join them as they walk on the Bruce Freeman Rail
Trail and get in your 30 minutes of exercise and socialize. Um they also have another program called the after hours playbook for teens and that was August 5th. I won't uh speak to that because that's passed. Uh plant positivity craft afternoon is August
11th. That was today. Don't have to talk about that one. Um community CPR August 13th 9:00 a.m. to 100 p.m. Chumsford Town Hall. Join them for a comprehensive 4-hour training session where you'll master CPR techniques uh for adults,
childrens, and infants. Uh, you'll also learn how to respond to choking emergencies, understand AED basics, and cover essential first aid procedures. Every participant will receive the American Heart Association's Heart Saver CPR AED first aid certificate valid for
two years. Don't miss the opportunity to gain vital life-saving skills. Cost is $20. Yoga and meditation for youth, August 19th, 5 to 6 p.m. at the Chser Public Library. This 45minute workshop combines beginner friendly yoga and
guided meditation to help youth manage stress, anxiety, and peer pressure with confidence. Through movement and mindfulness, youth will tune to their emotions and develop self-regulation skill, build resilience and inner confidence, and uh discover a sense of calm and focus in a supportive
environment. Uh call the health department for more information. Um blood pressure screenings on August 7th have passed. Um Narcan um Narcan training save a life
August 28th uh from 3 to 3:30 at Chumps Town Hall room LL6. Um employee spotlight. Um Elise Pierce, regional health inspector. We're happy to welcome Elise Pis to the Chser Health Department as
our new regional health inspector through NEPA organization and the public health excellent grant. Elise holds a master's in environmental health science from UMass Amherst and will be with them for two days a week assisting with food inspections, complaint investigations,
housing code compliance, and pool and lake inspections. They're excited to have her on board. Um they are also um having a Chumsford Health Department's fall festival September 27th from 11:00 am to 4 pm. Um they are still accepting
sponsors and vendors for the annual fall festival. They expect more than 3,000 attendees this year, food trucks and free activities such as face painting, balloons, petting zoo, hay rides, pumpkin painting, and much more. Um the next item that they have is Massachusetts behavioral health
helpline. Details um free confidential help is available 247 across Massachusetts for mental health and substance use support. Call or text 8337732445 or chat at masseline.com. Um sober karaoke is coming up August
15th from 7 to 10 p.m. at the Chumpset Center for the Arts. Join them for some sober, free fun, and free pizza. Empowering youth with life-saving skills. Public health nurse DSi Beal and public health and wellness coordinator Taran Angel recently trained over 25
Chelsea youth and CPR, first aid, and AED use. This hands-on session equipped participants with vital emergency response skills, fostering confidence, preparedness, while supporting the town's commitment to public health education and youth empowerment. Contact the health department at 978-2505241.
Uh the military Chelsea military community covenant task force invites the community to attend their military appreciation cookout. This will happen on Tuesday, August 12th. That's tomorrow. Um from 5 to 7
p.m. at the Chumsford Lodge of Elks at 300 Littleton Road, Chumsford, Mass. This is free to all and will include hot dogs, hamburgers, watermelon desserts, soft drinks, and cash bars. So, go join the uh Chsford Military uh community covenant uh for their military
appreciation cookout. Um where do you want to walk, roll, or bike? How can we get you there safety safely? The Greater Lowel Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan regionwide survey is now available. help them create a safer, more accessible, and active
transportation network across the region by sharing experiences, priorities, and ideas in our regionwide survey. Your response will help them understand how people get around our region, what prevents them from walking and biking and more, and the types of improvements that would encourage our communities to
um access their destinations com uh comfortably. So, that survey closes this Friday. Um if you go to the greater low bicycle um and pedestrian plan, you'll see a link to um to click to take that survey. So um go ahead and send
information in on that. Um the Chelford Planning Board is seeking to appoint two meeting representative and two residents at large to the 2025 managed growth strategy task force. This committee is expected to meet monthly or bi-weekly
depending on the tasks at hand depending upon u based upon the number of applications received. The planning board will invite interested parties to attend the September 10th, 2025 meeting to introduce themselves. Um if you um go to the link and download this agenda
from this evening, you'll see two links there for you to go ahead and um uh review the um the commitment and also um apply for that uh position. The role of the 2025 minutes growth stat uh strategy task force is select the consultant.
Select the consultant. The task force will be working with meet with the consultant on a regular basis. With the consultant define the process for developing the managed growth strategy, define the problem we are trying to solve. Definition of done, goals, timing, metrics. Uh in addition to that
you'll uh gather data and information from various sources including but not limited to the chumps housing production plan 2025 strategic plan and other sources um available. Um planning board recommends the
composition of the 2025 managed growth strategy tax task force to be the following appointments. One select board member, one 2020 master plan or master plan implementation member. two strategic plan members, one con member,
two town meeting reps, two residents, and um one uh department community development advisor. If you're interested in serving on that 2025 manage growth strategy task force, please submit an email, a letter of interest no later than September 5,
2025, including relevant experience to Evan Bolansky, director of community development at ebolanskychumsmass.go. Y uh Nimcog Northern Middle Sex uh community of governments are seeking volunteers for outdoor asset inventory.
Uh our region is home to many beautiful interactive u landscapes, whether it be fishing on a glistening pond or biking as the autumn leaves fall. Mass residents have a close relationship with the outdoors. Unfortunately, the majority of these tucked away paradises aren't marked on
our GPS maps are able to be found with a simple Google search. being able to enjoy these serenities of nature shouldn't be impossible. So, if you want to join this um um survey and help um uh put together the
asset inventory um you can contact uh NIMCOG. So, to volunteer, please complete um the form. Questions about the project can be directed to Amy Bickford uh Nimcog Municipal Fellow at a Bickford.org. um take the LRTA, the Lower Regional
Transportation Authority 5-year regional comprehensive transit plan survey. Um if you download our agenda again this evening, you'll see a link there to go ahead and do that survey. And with that, that completes community announcements.
Thank you. Uh next up, we have general public input. Do we have anyone for general public input? No, there's nobody on Zoom. We had some people removed from Zoom who are trying to get in inappropriately, but nobody apologize for that. Apologize for that. But there's nobody on Zoom uh who's here for general public
input. We have people on Zoom for the license and and the other matter, but not for public input. Thank you. Thanks Pete for taking care of that. Um so next up we have committee vacancies. Committee vacancies. As of August 11th,
2025, Agricultural Commission has one unexpired three-year term ending June 30, 2026. Board of Assessors has one unexpired three-year term ending June 30, 2027. Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee has one three-year
term ending June 30, 2028. Capital Planning Committee has one three-year term ending June 30, 2028. Uh the Chelsea Center for the Arts Town Hall Advisory Committee has one three-year term ending June 30th, 2028.
Community on disabilities has one unexpired three-year term ending June 30th, 2026. Two unexpired three-year terms ending June 30th, 2027, and one three-year term ending June 30th, 2028. Council on Aging Board has one unexpired
three-year term ending June 30th, 2026 and two three-year terms ending June 30th, 2028. Historic District Commission alternate member has one unexpired three-year term ending June 30th, 2027. Holiday decorating committee has two unexpired one-year terms ending uh
December 31st, 2025. Parade Committee uh welcomes all applicants to one-year terms ending uh July 31st, 2026. Permanent Building Committee has one three-year term ending June 30th, 2028, and the Vinyl Square strategic action
plan committee business representative won an unexpired three-year term ending 6:30 uh 2026. If you're interested in serving on a town board of committee, please complete an online application available at the town website. For more information, please contact the town
manager's office at 978-250-5202 or TM office at chumswoodmass.gov. Thanks, Pat. Um, next on our agenda, we have licenses, and we have a couple here. Um, it looks like first up, we have a one-day all
alcoholic beverage license for the American Legion at 90 Grten Road for August 16th. Dan Ven is on Zoom for this. Okay. How you doing? Dan Vagent, commander of the American Legion, Post 313. Hi Dan. How are you? Good. How you doing tonight? Good, thanks.
So, what's going on? You guys having a party? Yeah. You have our annual block party in August. Um, it's going to be held behind the Legion on Willis Drive. Uh, so we'll be blocking off the road from uh the entrance at Gren Graten Road all the way
to the edge of our building. uh be using our top lot for parking as well as the senior center for overflow. Okay. Um like you guys have done this a whole bunch of times before. Does anybody have any questions for for Dan?
Yeah. How do people get from the senior center to your venue? Um that' mainly be walking. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there's a crosswalk right over to um so it's all sidewalk all the way over to our building.
Right. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. I'll take a motion. Okay. I'll make a motion that um the board approve a one-day all alcoholic beverages license for the block party to be held on August 16th, 2025 at the
parking lot of the American Legion at 90 Grten Road uh in North Chelwood as presented. I'll second it. Okay, I have a motion and a second and we are going to do a roll call vote. Uh Pat Maloney I. Pat,
yes. Jeff, yes. And Aaron, yes. And I'm a yes. And the motion passes. All right. Thank you very much. Enjoy your party. Thank you. And next up, we have an auctioneers
permit for Everett Murray, DBA, Murray and Murray Auctioneers at 63 Middle Sex Street. Attorney Greg Holidayad is on the Zoom as well. Okay. Good evening. U my name is Greg Holidayadine. I represent Everett Murray. Uh Mr. Murray is the owner of
6163 Middle Sex Street. He purchased it in early 2023. He operates a warehouse there and he also has a trucking company, TripleM Movers. He's operated that for probably over 20 years. Uh, and as any warehouseman or um bonded mover,
he's had situations in the past where you've had to um auction off items that were abandoned by the uh prior owners and that's pretty much an ancillary use to the uh warehousing that he does as well as the bonded moving. Um he's been
an auctioneer licensed by the Massachusetts Division of Standards for uh over 24 years. Um he previously worked operating a warehouse in Townsend. He had that for several years uh without incident and he had an auctioneer's permit from Townsend and
he's looking to be able to do the same here. He's filed his business certificate. Um he has uh filed with the board his state auctioneers license and he's paid the fee. He's asking for an annual permit deduct auctions. He anticipates one or two monthly auctions
be necessary. it would be done in the lower level of the building. He's um he's willing to um live with the fire department regula regulations as far as um um posting the occupants occupancy limit etc at the entry to that
room where they'd be holding uh auctions and so on. Yes. As well as the comments by the building inspector. We've worked with the building inspector for a number of months. Excellent. Thank you. Oh, is this an is this an annual license? Will it have to be renewed
every year? It is. Okay. Does anyone have any other questions? Um, you said that there was one or two a month potentially. What time of day do the auctions take place or what? I think it does in the weekends. Mr. Uh Murray is in the uh he's he's attending
live. If you could address that question, he could probably give you a better sense from history. Sure. Just go up to the podium, sir. That would be great. Good afternoon. The actions will be done on Saturdays
in the afternoon when there's hardly anybody in the parking lot and we can fit 20 25 cars. So that's about the size of the auction I'm expecting. I don't think I want to go more than that. Only takes two.
Oh, I appreciate it. That's what I was wondering. Thank you. Yes. Did they say that you own three M triple M movers also? Yes. Oh, so you're moving company also. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?
Interesting. Sounds good to me. Okay, then I'll take a motion. Okay. Uh, I'll make a motion that the board approve an auctioneer's permit for Everett Murray doing business as Murray and Murray Auctioneers to be exercised on the premises at 63 Middle Sex Street
in Chelmsford as presented. I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion and a second. We'll do another roll call vote. Pat Maloney, I. Pat Wood, yes. Jeff, yes. Aaron, yes. And I'm a yes. Motion passes. Um, good
luck. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Next on our agenda, we have reports and presentations. And first up, we have a presentation from the recycling committee, a request to support the paint recycling state
legislation. And we do have someone here from the recycling committee, I believe. Hi, I'm Lee Williams. I'm on the Chser Recycling Committee. And also here we have uh Rebecca Gore, also a member, and uh Tom Irwin, who is a private um uh
resident of Massachusetts, who has lots of background information. So hopefully between the three of us, we can answer any questions you have. Uh so I'll just give you a little background. our our recommendation is is written, but I can give you a little
background um on what this is. So, the um town manager Hoken asked the committee to give us a recommendation on the paint stewardship bills, House um 886 and Senate 647,
uh titled an act relative to paint recycling. They asked us to look into it and discuss it, provide a recommendation to the select board and we did that on our July 10 meeting. Uh we discussed it and I can give you a
little more detail about it, but our our decision was to unanimous unanimous unanimously support a recommendation that you sign a letter of support to the legislature in support of these these two bills.
Uh so the two bills have to do with the um paint recycling, how to responsibly handle paint that's unwanted. Uh right now if you have latex paint you need to that and you hardly ever get the right
amount of paint. There's always a little leftover. It's very hard to to avoid having leftover uh late oilbased paint you need to set aside until the next hazardous waste drop off which is now once a year and uh dispose of it. Then
if you have latex paint uh that is not taken at the hazardous waste drop off you it is considered um non-hazardous but to dispose of it in the trash it has to be solidified first
which is troublesome and time consuming and and expensive too. Uh the only way you can do it is if you have a tiny bit of paint you take off the lid and you let it dry dry dry. If you have a little more, you have to add some solidifier like kitty litter. You have to go out,
unless you have a cat, which I don't, you have to go buy it, uh, mix it up and then wait, wait, wait for it to solidify till finally you can put it in your trash and it goes to an incinerator. So, with paint recycling, you have much
better options. you can um uh provide it to um manufacturers who will actually recycle the paint. Uh they put all the blues together, all the greens together and so forth and they can um
create a sellable paint. So you can buy it at uh the Habitat for Humanity Restore uh in Bara. They they carry this uh recycled paint. it's sold at a discount. It keeps the the paint out of
the landfill and u provides a cheap alternative for for paint for a lot of people. Uh so that's that's all good. Uh, now let me tell you just a little bit more about this. This bill is to establish a program where residents of
Massachusetts can take their paint to a retailer that sells paint. And that provides the resident a convenient place to take it. They don't have to wait till the next drop off. They don't have to solidify it. They can
just take it to the store for no fee. and it's collected and and the retailer takes takes it and sends it to um whoever is doing the recycling. The cost is um is paid upfront when you
buy the paint. Uh in other states in New England um most other states in New England have this kind of program already in place and the fee is maybe 75 cents to 125 cents per gallon. Um, paint
right now is running about $50 a gallon. So, that's pretty small in comparison. Um, for the the convenience of being able to take your leftover paint somewhere, let someone else handle it. Uh, so that the bill is to establish a
program. Uh we believe the Chumsford recycling committee believes this is a good thing for the town of Chumsford because it will first of all provide residents with something a convenient inexpensive option to dispose of their
paint responsibly. That in itself was enough for me. Uh secondly, it will reduce our town's cost for hazardous household waste collection. Right now, we do collect oilbased paints. At our November
collection, uh the cost for six barrels or units of oilbased paint at $850 per unit was over $5,000. Uh all that oilbased paint could be with this program in place could be just sent
to the retailer. Someone else deals with it. Uh we also had aerosol um collection which added up to um like spray paints would be included in that $2,600. So that was just for one household
hazardous waste drop off. So those costs would be reduced. Um it'll also reduce the amount of um tonnage we send to the incinerator. Once the paint is uh solidified, it goes we pay by the ton. So uh that would that would the tonnage
would come down and it's also good for the environment. It would keep people from improperly disposing of the paints and it also gives us a chance to reduce and reuse um buying of new paint by being able to recycle buy recycled paint and so that's all good for the environment.
Um I think that in a nutshell is is what we wanted to convey. So, we are recommending that you um send a letter of support to the legislature and this is a sample that
you could um use to um convey your support from the town and many many towns in Massachusetts have already sent their um endorsement to the legislature and we think this will help build moment
momentum to get some action on these two bills. Questions? I have a question. So, it's it's not mandatory for the retailers, correct? Correct. Uh the a retailer could voluntarily opt into this program.
They don't have to. So, what is I don't really I'm not sure they understand what the point of in the in the bill is if it's a if it's a voluntary program that's run by a nonprofit and the retailer is directly. I don't know.
Um not really I don't I don't really understand what the point is in having a a bill at the state level if it's a voluntary program that's run by a nonprofit. And what does what is the enactment of the bill actually? It it does set it does set the amount of
Oh, because there's a sales tax on it. It's not exactly a tax. It's more of a fee that goes to support the program and that would but that would be universal across the state. No matter where you bought that, it would be the same amount at each each store.
And it goes best directly back to the nonprofit. Uh they they do use um the money to run the program and it is audited to make sure that the money is being used appropriately.
But the state doesn't run the program. A nonprofit runs the program. Correct. That that's how it's been enacted in other states and we think um the recommendations are that similar paycharge and electricity bill and then they contract with mass save to run the
energy audits in those programs. Same thing here. You'd pay a search charge on your paint purchase and then those revenues would go to the state on these this program. So because the state doesn't have the resources to run it. Yeah. So that $125 a gallon that you pay extra
now for paint will go to the state to build and manage recycling paint recycling facilities. So it be state run state I think Tom can explain the details a
little better if you would would you might have to come to the microphone bill where you get you don't bring your empty can back and get your$125 back yeah you don't get it back yeah the uh the monies whether it's 75 cents or $125 would be sent directly to the
nonprofit to operate no monies go directly to the state if they haven't gone through the nonprofit First, the only monies that go to the state is to defay the cost of doing the evaluation of the third party audit that occurs each year state by state.
So, the state does the audit, but they pay a third party auditor to do it. So, the money would go towards the state's auditing costs. Correct. It's just passing through. It's not And it's I think it said that in there. It doesn't go into the the state coffers. It just it gets
collected and then sent off to the third. Is there anything in here that um that makes it law that a citizen must recycle? Nope. There's nothing in there that makes it mandatory to recycle your paint. The purpose of the law is to
prevent an antitrust suit being brought against the nonprofit, which would be essentially frivolous, but for the intention of actually bankrupting the nonprofit. So, uh, that's the reason that PainCare, the non the name of the nonprofit that the, uh, American Codings
Association put together to manage this whole project, um, is requests to have in order to be able to operate safely within the state. So, every every consumer is going to pay the additional cost whether they were bringing their can back or not. Yeah.
Right. So, the costs are going to go up. Is Massachusetts the$125? Is that um commensurate with the surrounding states that have enacted this program already. Is is that pricing similar to Maine and Vermont and Rhode Island?
Connecticut and Rhode Island. Uh Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Maine all have 75 cents per gallon. Okay. That was the number in 2011. It's still the same number uh in each of the states. Now, the it's been that way again for, you know, uh over 10 years.
They're anticipating it's probably going to go up by a nickel. The exception to that rate is Vermont. And in Vermont, the reason that that they have the issue is because there's a large number of people in New York and uh New Hampshire and Massachusetts that bring their
unwanted paint to u Vermont for disposal and uh they don't necessarily purchase the paint from Vermont. So that imbalance is what uh has driven up the cost for the per gallon price in in Vermont. When New Hampshire passes the
law this session as anticipated and we pass it here, those that number should reverse itself and come down more in line with the other states. The number for Connecticut right now is I believe 90 cents per gallon. So I'm going to expect that we're going to see a number somewhere between 80 and 90 cents here
in Massachusetts when the law passes. So that's to be determined. The actual cost, it'll be negotiated between paintare and mass D. Okay. And you folks may also be pleased to know that the MMA is a strong supporter
of it as law and has been so for several sessions of the legislature. The mass DP and their 2030 solid waste master plan calls out um EPR in general and paint stewardship in particular has mechanisms to implement their zero waste program
and that calls out for a 30% reduction in waste by 2030 and a 90% reduction by 2050. And without these programs, it's hard to imagine how they could accomplish this. Couldn't they just paint care just go directly to the retailers
as a service provider and take the additional? But then then it would be voluntary. Well, it's going to be voluntary either way. But it's not going to be voluntary as far as people paying it. It's going to be voluntary whether that retailer will will take it back. Is that correct, Tom?
Right. The uh the reason for the 75 cent fee is they have to haul it, pay for haulers and when it gets to the recycling plant there's there's handling above and beyond processing and uh so the 75 cent fee is going to be present whether you know we say to them you have to do it on your own or the
retailer pays 75 cents. If we tell them they have to do it on their own what I imagine they will do is just like if the price of one of the constituents of paint went up by 75 cents it would be passed on to the consumer. It'll be passed on to the consumer in that in this regard as well. Yeah, it'll be passed on to the consumer
either way, right? But yeah, the only difference in in um in paint care going directly to the retailers and just doing it as a a business model is that there's an audit by the state. The way this laws this just allows the
state to do the audit. The the way this law was generated was that the retailers, the manufacturers, consumer groups and uh state agencies all sat in a room for a period of no less than six years hashing out what language and what methodology should be used to implement
such a program. This law is the result of those six years of negotiation. Does the state need to audit the program for EPA purposes or is there a is there they are they audit it in two regards. They audit in regard to um compliance
with the program. Are they hauling correctly? Are they giving out the right totes? Are they doing all the procedures that agreed on? So they do that level of audit. Then the second level of audit is that after a third party does the financial audit of paint care for that given state. That report goes to the
state, the state reviews that if there's any discussion about um increase in the rate for uh the per gallon price or so forth, it occurs at that particular point. strange. But I mean, does the audit need to be
done because of environmental protection standards or something like that? Is that more what the audit is about? Nope. That's just it's it is it is um it's simply a it's it's simply a mechanism to asssure that they're operating fairly as nonprofit and responsibly because they
take in monies um they have they have monies in a fund that exceed what they need to operate in a year and what they're doing is monitoring how much is in that residual fund and seeing whether it shrinks or it's going up and that helps get that's important input when
they make the decision as to what the uh fee should be per gallon. And they they you know they they do their due diligence. They check to make sure that uh salaries are reasonable and all the other markers are are fair um in in operating the program for the state.
Yeah. So that they can still be classified as a nonprofit. But that's I mean I think every nonprofit has to do that. I don't know why you need a state bill to monitor that this one nonprofit. You need a way to collect the money. Correct.
Wait. Yeah, that's what that's what it's doing. But every nonprofit has to have a financial audit done every year to to be compliant to to for their status reporting or whatever it is, right? But the the the financial piece Why does this require it? The the the financial audit does not
require a law. That is absolutely not part of the reason that the law is being generated. Only reason that we're used not just doing this and without worrying about a law is because of the antitrust suit because of as you mentioned collecting the 75 cents. That's it.
That's the real basis and reason for the law. There is no other reason. But you have to make sure every retailer collects that money and turns it over. Otherwise, if it made it voluntary, then yeah, people, you know, the the bigger
retailers could opt out and not do anything. But well, actually, the bigger still opt out. The bigger retailers do actually don't participate in the program. The smaller retailers do um to return it. But correct. But if you buy it, no matter where you buy it, you will have to pay that amount.
Correct. Oh. Every Oh, so every store that you go into, they will have to pay. Oh, okay. Not just at the retailers that are participating. Even if you buy it from on the web, the you will pay they if they find out what state you're it's going to and if that's
a pain care state, you get you pay the the fee whatever it is. So pain care has been at this a while and there's a few states since 2008. And has there been any reports of of um
you know paint especially in the smaller stores kind of piling up or or do these because I'm more concerned about the the smaller stores that don't have necessarily the storage space. But if all of a sudden somebody shows up with 25 partial gallons of paint, they don't
really they can't store that forever and it's got to get off site. So what's what's the process and the experience been? So, um, they've got an extremely responsive, uh, organization set up. Uh, if you go call paint care from a a retailer, uh, within two to four
business days, they're there with an empty tote taking your full one away. And that's that's the only effort the retailer has to do with the incoming paint is make a phone call. That's it. And paint care is responsible for picking it up. They are
dropping off an empty, taking the full It sounded too good to be true when I be when I started with this. So, I went to uh Vermont, uh New York, and Connecticut and talk with retailers and talk with consumers to to to confirm that this thing was even half as good as it
sounded on paper. And I was flabbergasted. Nobody had any complaints. The only complaint I ever heard was midnight deliveries. And I wondered what that is. He says, "People will drop off their cans of paint at the front door at midnight." Okay. And we
come in in the morning and there they are. Um, but other than that, they said, "No, the small stores, we have increased foot traffic and it more than pays for itself for us." So, we're very happy because we're taking Lowe's and Home Depot and Walmart's paint back. So, all
of those people are coming to our store, buying more brushes, buying a little touch-up can, and all the other stuff. So, um, it's it's been good. Is there a I admittedly have not read either one of the bills. Is there um are
there any exceptions or car votes? You know, I'm thinking if I'm a I'm a contractor and I'm building a bunch of houses and I have to go buy 500 gallons of paint, my bill just went up by 500 bucks and I I may or may not care at that point in time. But is there any
exemptions for for carot for when people have to buy larger quantities? Um, if you buy five gallons, it's not it let's call it a dollar just to make the discussion easy. It's not it's not $5 for that gallon. It's going to be
roughly um it's going to be $2 for five gallons because generally when people buy paint, it's roughly the same amount left over in the bottom of the pale. So the experience has showed that they don't have to charge that extra $500 to be an
extra $200 and that'll get passed on to the uh consumer be when they have you know when they're executing the job. The other thing that's good for contractors if they've got I've got I've got a 100 gallons of paint sitting in my shed.
They call a paint care and say I've got 100 gallons in my shed. Hit Pancare sends out a truck, puts it all in their truck, drives off, not a pennies change hands. Is there a disposal cost for contractors if they have paint like that liner?
We're required. I mean, we do it because all of our clients expect it. OSHA requires it. Um, you know, so commercially it's a very it's a it's it's a thing. I mean, it's costly to get rid of. We Well, what we do is we solidify paints and and dispose
them properly. So we buy solidifiers and things like that. Our our vendors do and such. So but arguably that example if you had you know there would be it would be a good service. Um but you know my you know my problem with this is you know of course
Massachusetts is the high you know you know$125 instead of 75 or 90 cents you know and you know we'll be at a$125 when this passes. Has um has there been an indication of schedule um as to when
recycling centers would come online as a result of putting this like how long before a local recycling center could come online once they initiate this bill? Approximately one year, six months to a year
for for one or numerous ones across the state. best of your knowledge to uh but based on history with the with other states between the passage of the law and then actually seeing on the ground at retail stores, transfer stations and the like, it's at least six
months um more often closer to a year and at that point all the negotiations that have to occur between the DP and paint care have finished and all all stuff that needs to be figured out has been figured out and uh the program begins
the that the the charging at that point starts or or does the bill pass, we start charging a buck a can and and then six months later or a year later we get recycling? No, it's when when they when the when it's when it starts to happen in the stores, that's when the the fee goes on.
And uh so if you've got paint in your basement, you know that I didn't pay no I didn't pay any fee for that. Doesn't matter. They don't care where you bought it. They don't care uh where you bought it from. when you bought it, just bring it in. That's just the reason why Massachusetts residents bring paint
across the line to the adjoining states that have the law to get rid of it. It cost them nothing. They put it on a counter. The only rules are it's got to be the original can, original label, and still liquid. Meets all three of those. They take it without question. And there's a higher fee, a lower fee
for a $5 container, five gallallon container versus a single gallon. What are they charging for quarts in small quantities? So I'm familiar with the pricing system of 75 cents. It' be 35.75 160. Okay. And anything less than a quart there's
no fee. So um I have a question. And um as as Lee mentioned um when we have the household hazardous waste pickup um many many many gallons are are dropped off there. Is there any way that the if the until this this passes or if it doesn't
if if paint care would come and take those that paint rather than having to pay the expense that we do now to get rid of it. Um until it becomes law. No they would not. Um, I am aware if if you bring your
latex to the um home decor group, uh, they've got 21 stores sprinkled around uh, one 4.95 128. And if you bring it into theirs, they will charge you $4 for per gallon of uh, uh, latex to uh,
reprocess it. And that all all that total $4 goes to um, Recolor Paints out of handover that does the reprocessing. though the recolor will come pick up the paint and bring it to their plant and reprocess it. And the other piece is that New England
Disposal Technologies I has a place in Sutton and if you bring it there it is they weigh your can and it's uh $1 per pound. So it's you know most cans that are returned are roughly 50% full. So it would be of the same order uh that um
you know you would pay if you went to uh the uh home decor group. So yes. So why isn't there anyone who would come pick it up from the town recycling if those because it it hasn't been paid because people haven't paid the whatever to have to pay them to do it. They don't
have to pay them to take it. If if the law gets passed and uh for whatever reason, you know, none of the stores want to be involved and this and that. If you uh you can call a paint and say, "Hey, would you arrange a paint return day for us? They'll come out with a truck at no cost. They'll hold the
day, put the stuff in the truck, and be gone." So they do they really try hard to make it convenient for folks. So So if this if this did pass, then we that would be available. Yep. As far as for the household hazardous waste. Yep. So that
Well, not for for for hazardous oil based paints and and spray cans. Yes. for the rest of the household hazard or stuff. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I wouldn't expect them to take everything. Right. Right. But if this doesn't pass, it cannot
Well, because it's not a law because the the the amount the fee hasn't been paid on all those all that paint. Paint can't just come and they need money to operate. They can't just come and pick up our stuff free. That's not I mean, they're a nonprofit,
but they have to people. Well, no, but they they recycle it and turn around and sell it as recycled paint. So, there's a Yeah, there's they're making it off of both ends. You understand? Well, they aren't. They're they they don't make any money off the
reprocessing. The reprocessing plant stays alive that way. The amount that Paint Care pays the reprocessor is not enough to keep the reprocessor going alone. what has to be paid a little there's a bit that comes from that 75 cents in order to make money what they
have to do is they have to also do the hauling as well as the reprocessing of the paint so paint care is not there's no lavish anything going on everything is real tight real tight I would bet that um again we're going to see somewhere between 80 and 90 cents uh
per gallon I'll buy you dinner if I'm if I'm push in that direction because it, you know, it's typical in Massachusetts. I understand. Totally understand. Kind of cost. I understand. I'd like to leave one one anecdote. Um I'd like to give you one anecdote just
from the recycling committee's perspective. When we have a hazardous waste day, uh there's long line of cars. We have to check every trunk to see if there's any latex paint in there. And even if they say, "No, I don't have any
latex paint. It's all oil." We have to check it and we always find it because people don't know what else to do with it. And when we tell them, "Nope, sorry. We can't take this. You got to put it in the front seat." They are not happy now. And we tell them, "You have to go buy
kitty litter, which costs a lot more than a dollar, and and deal with the effort to do that." We would love to be able to tell them, "Sure, you take it to Sherwin Williams or and they'll take it today or we'll have a collection at our
zero waste day. Bring it then or some other option just to get it off their hands because you see the frustration in their faces." And we have an army of volunteers right now going through every single trunk because of um people don't
know what to do with their paint. So, just wanted to mention that. like to think that this has an impact on getting improperly disposed paint out of the improper channels. You would think, right? And I'm already paying 60 bucks a
gallon. I mean, if I have to pay another buck and have a conscience, I'm probably not going to stress about that. I'm also not going to buy the 60-gallon paint. I'm going to go find the halfp price paint. But the commercial guy But the commercial guys, I mean, what's the commercial impact, too? I don't know. Well, that's what I wanted to talk
about. Yeah, because they're using more than a five gallon bucket. Well, I'm a director on a franchise and we sell five gallon to 55 gallon drums of either water-based or oil based paint. None of it latex. And Rebecca
mentioned the spray cans. We also supply spray cans. What is the proper disposal of an empty spray can? Have they addressed that at all? We do we do currently currently take uh aerosol uh spray paint at household
hazardous waste. At the November one, we spent $2,600 to dispose of three units of it. I'm not sure how many you is in a unit, but um 500 cars go
through. So, it's it's not a lot. And and for about $2,600 to dispose of that spray paint. Well, going back to Erin's point, if I if I ship a 55gallon drum paint to uh
one of our franchises in Massachusetts, are they going to get hit with a $500 search charge? No. You already speak into that. Oh, I think no. because it's not a retail because Yeah, because they you don't charge for over five gallons.
The um 500 gallons is or 100 gallons or anything beyond five gallons. There's it's not handled through this program. If you just I'm going to come back with my 55gallon drum and hand it to uh Pinker. Well, yeah, it's not going to quite work because they don't have capacity for that. Why not? That I can't
answer. I don't know the answer. Right. I apologize. As I was talking about 55gallon drums and I'm confident that most of our dealers don't have any waste. They use they use it up and then buy another one and they don't throw anything out because it's too costic. Right. But they're not charge they're charging
on quarts gallons and five gallons. That's it. Right. Just those three quantities. That's I understand it. So again it's it's retail level not commercial level. Correct. And currently there are 112 municipalities that are supporting this
in the state and I'm pushing to get 176 so I can tell the legislature that over 50% of the municipality support this and over 50% of the state's population. Okay. Anybody have any other questions?
No. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for for all your hard work here for a motion. Um yes, I'll take a motion. Okay. I will make a motion that the
select board support the recommendation of the Chumsford Recycling Committee. And that support uh is to write a a letter of support to the legislature to
um support House Bill H86, an act relative to paint recycling, and Senate Bill S647, an act relative to paint recycling as presented this evening.
I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion and a second. We are going to do a roll call vote. Pat Maloney. Hi. Pat Wes. Yes. And Jeff? Yes. And Aaron? Yes. And I um I'm actually I'm going to
abstain on this. I can do that, right? I'm going to abain because I'm really undecided. Um but the motion passes either way. So um so congratulations um to all those in support. And do we have to write do we write the letter? Um
sample letter will take care of it. Okay. Okay. So we don't have to work on draft. Oh, but it comes from the select board, right? We'll get ahead. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you guys.
Okay. Uh next up we have the uh select board policy, the town accountant hiring process. So we've already looked at this before, right? This is like our second or third draft. Oh, second one. Yeah,
the second draft, right? Second draft. And I think I got all the edits that we talked about. Unless somebody sees something that I missed or if there's anything else you thought of. Looks fine to me. No, I'm good with it.
Yeah, I'm good. Okay. If nobody has any comments. No. Do we and we we need a motion. We need we we're going to vote right to adopt it. Okay. So, I'll take a motion. Uh I'll make a motion that the select board approve um
the policy guidelines for the process to hire a town accountant as drafted. I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion and a second. We'll do a roll call vote again. Pat Maloney. Hi. Pat Woodus. Jeff.
I Darren. Yes. And I'm an I. So the policy is adopted. Thank you Pat for that for working on that. And next up we have town manager reports. Yeah. Thank you madam chair, members of the board. I'll try to be brief this
evening. First one is last Monday. Uh the first Monday in August, August 4th was the deadline for the submission of citizen petition warrant articles for the following annual town meeting. We received one citizen petition article from John Ray regarding preservation of open fields at Kulis Farm. The article
was certified by the town clerk's office. So, it will be placed on the warrant uh for the fall town meeting. The next item I have is the first draft of the warrant for the fall annual town meeting. Um there is currently 30 articles on the
warrant for the fall annual town meeting. Um 10 of those articles are all pertain to one zoning change which is the CBLT zoning amendment that's being proposed by the um planning board and is in the
process hearing process right now. What I anticipate would happen is that probably will be considered in their consent agenda of its own to say we'll take up these 10 articles because adding a new zoning category as you can see in the excruciating details of the listed articles it you're going into all
different components of the the zoning map and the definitions and the tables and so forth. And so that's what's spelled out here on the warrant. So I imagine that's how it would get addressed. Uh in addition to that, the planning board is is bringing in four other zoning matters. One regarding the
def uh definition of uh and pertaining to massage service establishments. One coming back from the Springtown meeting which is the definition of family. Um another one coming back from Springtown meeting which was deleting the special permit references to schools. and then
one uh a slight modification to our accessory dwelling unit bylaw that was approved in January that was recommended by the attorney general's office. Um so those are the zoning articles which is sort of the primary purpose of fall town meeting. In addition to that, we have a
general bylaw amendment by the ATF committee to basically u modify the deadline process for the submission of applications before the ATF. Um the um there's also a um
article that was that that I'm putting forward. This has to do with the second generational anti-coagulenticides um by which you may recall was brought forward by New House and Brian uh wildlife. This would basically mirror action that's been taken in the town of
Baricker and other towns which is to basically sort of what you similar to what you heard earlier this evening. They'd like a statewide ban, but and a way to achieve that is to do a local town meeting vote to request a home rule special act and then basically feeling
that if you besiege a state with enough of these home rule acts that they'll just adopt it statewide, similar to what's happened in the past, what hasn't been achieved on plastic bag bans and straw bans and so forth. So that's the um but we didn't need home petitions on those. No, because those were local options.
Right now the state doesn't provide a local option. So the only way to do that is to do a home rule petition. So basically this is basically mirrors the action that was taken at Bara's spring annual town meeting just changes the name of the town and um so that's what's going on there and as as a town practice
and policy we have stopped the use of them in our facilities and town buildings very similar to what you know has been discussed here before and has occurs in the city of l and l housing authority and other locations because of the impact on wildlife um go ahead real
quickly what's the acronym CBLT. What's it? What is that? Oh, um, it's it's it's commercial business light. Light. Okay. Okay. It's meant to be the buffer between the commercial and the residential zones. That's why the planning board is
initiating this process. But it's Yeah. Commercial business light. What it is is it it allows many of the uses that are allowed into commercial business, but then excludes some that are seen to be inhospitable to residential. So this is the idea of this
buffering um and that's being proposed in areas where where these conflicts arise such as the one that's had the most notoriety on this is has been the Lockheed Martin up in uh Kate's Corner area of town. Well, it's actually manufacturing ultral
light, right? That's what exactly. Yeah. 22. That's that. And then prior to that at at the beginning of the of the warrant, you see your financial articles. Um this the cemetery commission again is coming for funding for the cemetery improvement development fund. They need another
niche wall at the cemetery. Um we we do the annual every fall the deposit into the sewer construction stabilization fund from the interest earnings on that fund. Um I have a placeholder for collective bargain agreements because we're still negotiating with the dispatchers and the firefighters unions
in case agreements are reached. We have a placeholder to amend the current year operating budget. We have a placeholder to put funding into roadway and sidewalk construction. We're have an article to put um funding to continue the design for the reconstruction of of Route 3A or
North Road from Technology Drive to Richardson Road. Uh we how that program works is is the town has to pay the design costs and we we've done preliminary design. And now we got to do final design to hopefully get that project on the transportation improvement uh program of of the
Northern Middle Sex Council of Government's um transportation program. Um we have a article for a placeholder right now for sewer infiltration and inflow, an article for uh the replacement of the emergency power supply power system at the police
station. Um, we also have an article to fund acoustical improvements at the senior center, including not only the main hall, but also other parts of the building. Many of us have been there have known and we've we've heard from the council on aging u board uh as
others at the the acoustics at that facility need improvement. Um, and then we have a um fund a placeholder for a tree and invasive species inventory and management plan which is the ongoing effort. Um, we I have a placeholder to
for regarding the PAS treatment. Uh, if the town needs to continue to fund the carbon filters for the North Johnson water district, uh, we anticipate that cost with that filter will need to be replaced prior to the end of this fiscal year. Um, and then we we also need town
meeting authorization to um provide a new 30-year lease period for the municipal parking lot lease in Vinyl Square behind the municipal lot. So the if you're familiar with a municipal lot is in Vinyl Square across from Rosies. The town owns the front part. The back
part is actually a dollar a year lease from the property owner um to the right if you're looking at the lot. Um so we've been in conversations with that new new owner of that lot and they're amendable to doing another 30-year renewal at the same price.
A dollar a dollar a year. Y um a good deal. and and then you know so that so that's but that needs town meeting authorization because we've ran it by council. He didn't think the original vote 30 years ago was sufficient to allow repetitive 30-year periods. And then the last article
that's not on here that you will see next week is I'm putting a placeholder on to for funding for the McCarthy school roof. Um as we know that's a huge roof and a huge ongoing project. We've already appropriated a million dollars to get started on that. And the early
indications that are uncertified from the town accountant and finance director at this point is we will have less certified free cash than last year, which was around 2% of our budget. Um, but that really would be the place to put the additional funding to continue moving that project along because that
project is is probably a $4 million project. And if we, you know, if if we put that into our regular capital plan, it's gonna it's gonna absorb half the capital. Solar panels on that roof, too. Yeah, we got solar panels on that roof as well. Yeah. So, so that's what we're thinking. So, I guess at this point
today, the difference I see from this list till next Monday night will be the addition of that article that's not included here. Um, Evan Bolansky, our community development director, did provide me with some language and order changes from the planning board on how they want the articles in which order.
Uh, even though we of order, but I'll do that and I'll review the language. So, next week I'll give you a revised version of this and then it'll be sent to council for a legal review and then when you meet the on you're following that on September 8th, you'll sign the warrant. Um, and
then it'll quickly go to Finn Finance Committee and then town meeting on October 20th. So, it's coming real fast. So, that's where we are on the fall town meeting warrant. Um the next thing under my report um is a land donation offer at
60 to 66 Milk Street. Um this occurred when on tax day a person came into the collector's office and I guess was tired of paying the tax on the on the property that's assessed for $134,000 and said, "Geez, would the town be
interested in accepting Islam's donation?" the concern that we have and it's maybe I can blow this up and I is the location. It's very wet. Uh it's in Vinyl Square uh across from the mill. Um
and the concern is is and and really the value of that land really might be for ancillary parking to the mill. Um, and it has been used, you can see this area in the front has been used as a parking area on Middle Sex Street because the land is wet and there's no
contiguous conservation land or town land adjacent to it. It really has no value to the town and because it is located across from the mill and is is been used as a parking area. We don't know. We haven't done soil
testing on that land. So we don't know what may have historically been in use. So I think the recommendation from the town staff, meaning the town manager, the finance director and DPW director is to pass on this offer because I I don't
see a benefit to the town. Um but again, the offer I don't have the authority, you know, and I wouldn't make that decision unilaterally. We're not mayor. uh and therefore um I I formally bring it to you uh as
anformational thing. Um but again, it it it really I don't see it having a benefit to the town. And I and what what we've suggested to the property owner is you might want to just reach out to the mill owner across the
street and see if they would pay you a fee to acquire the land because if you if it has very limited development potential because of the wetlands and the flood zone then maybe it might have limited for parking benefit as overflow for the mill. What are the taxes?
Well 134,000 134,000 which seems high for un non-developable piece of property. Yeah. Yeah. So, if your tax rates around $17 per thousand, so you're probably
you're probably talking, you know, $24. If you look in the history, which I did on the acquisition of the property, the assessor's field card, the parcel was assessed at $6 million at one point when it was it was under the mill. So, we suspect it may have been part of a
larger parcel perhaps with with the contiguous across the street. It makes no sense the you look at the historic sale value of the property. Yeah, it's Yeah, exactly. It just doesn't, you know, and know I'm talking in the 90s and 2000s. So, it's not not going back a 100 years. It just So,
there's the again it it indicates that there's been a greater activity on this property than just sort of this derelic piece of property that's not not of much assessed value. My guess is it probably was used for parking.
I mean, by my math, it's $2,200 a year. Yeah. Yeah. You said I'm sorry. 220. Yeah. 2200. 2200. Yeah. 2200. I meant 22. Yeah, 22. I was Yeah, I thought 22. Yeah, 22. Um, so do we have to do we have to
we don't have to do anything, you know, but I just have I have to know I have to notify you. I don't just like litigation or anything that comes to the town. I don't have the authority to accept the donation. We have to go to town meeting. Town meeting, right? Yeah. You need a two-thirds vote meeting. We would bring it to town meeting, right? And and you'd also have to vote
to do it because town meeting can only authorize. They can't execute. You're the executive body of the town. Could we vote that we're not interested? Yes. Yeah. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I don't know that we And Do we need to vote or do we just need I mean, that would put it to bed.
Yeah. I would be okay with a vote. Want to do a vote? Okay. So, I guess I'll take a motion. Decline the offer. It's a motion, right? All right. Um,
I will make a motion that this board defer on acceptance. Well, decline because you're going to do it again later. That that this board decline
the donation of 60- 66 Middle Sex Street um as presented. I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion to second and we're going to do a roll call vote again. Pat Maloney
I just yes. Jeff, yes. Aaron, yes. And I'm also a yes. So the motion passes. So we decline the offer. And then quickly wrapping up, um, since, uh, last Friday, the governor signed the
legislaturator's bill regarding chapter 90 funding for the current fiscal year, and the town of CH would receive 2,237,492, which is a significant increase. Basically, it's a 50% increase from what the prior year the legislature funded chapter 90 at 300 million as opposed to
200 million. And so that's that's a needed um upgrade uh because of the increasing costs of road construction. Doesn't it probably it doesn't meet the demand that in terms of how the wear and tear statewide, but it's the first time
in over a dozen years that the legislature boosted it to 300 million, which is great news. So that um that money will become available. You'll probably see most of that work probably in next spring and summer because the legislature didn't sign it until August
and we're we're nearing the end of our construction season. And then lastly on double polls, um the short story is is the number of double polls this month increased by three to 53. Um there were six double polls removed and nine added
to the list from the prior month. Um, and the other noteworthy thing is Comcast has indicated that since they they have 25 with the balls in their court. They've informed me that they've completed the action and are working to update the date double pole database.
Um, and then finally, I did provide National Grid with with a list of five double polls that weren't on the list that were reported into our office. And again, if people watching this or others know of double polls, let us know because we want to make sure it's on the list. Um, so that's where we are on
double polls at this point in time. So that concludes my report for this evening. Thanks, Paul. Okay, next up we have appointments and we have a couple of select board
appointments. So the first is um an appointment for the planning board's managed growth strategy task force. Um so we did mention something. So the planning board asked that we mention
something in our PSA section and we did do that. Um and we are asked to assign a select board member to the task force also. Um, okay.
So, I don't know if anyone has any interests in this in particular. Um, we can take I guess we can Well, I guess how what's the timeline for them to They're They're still taking applications. You don't have to do it this evening. My guess is they're
probably going to kick off after Labor Day. So, if you Yeah, you could do it next week or you could do it conceivably on your meeting on September 8th. Okay. Isn't Aaron already on that task for? Aaron is on the the uh strategic plan
committee. Yeah. So, Aaron, you are Oh, the strategic plan committee is is no longer, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, Aaron was on the strategic planning committee. So I guess this would be kind of the equivalent. Um I
was kind of thinking you also because you're just a liazison for the planning board. So I feel like it kind of makes sense but um but if you guys want to table this till next week or just let me I we don't need to vote on it. We don't need to vote to you need to vote to assign a member.
Yeah. Okay. And is it is it a vote or is it just a a chair a chair appointment? didn't specify it out. Yeah, he didn't he didn't specify it. Yeah, it's under our appointment thing, but yeah, I guess it is an appointment.
Um, yeah, I don't Would you be comfortable with that with replacing your strategic planning committee? Yeah, I have lesson on with this. I have no problem with it, but I you know, if we have the time, I think we should take the opportunity to just make sure that there's nobody else that would
be interested in it. you know, I haven't talked to, you know, or if Jeff or somebody else or Pat. Go ahead. But obviously I I've had the experience. I was part of um drafting that and spent, you know, the the better part of a year doing that. So, um I certainly
understand the task and if if uh you choose and the rest of the board chooses, I'll be more than happy to do it. Okay. Okay. So, can we can we table this till next week and just add it to next week and next week we'll make an appointment.
Okay. And then if anybody else wants to jump at it or Okay. Thanks, Sarah. And next up, we have um a select board appointment for the housing authority. And this is one probably not going to be
able to act on this evening either. Give you some background on this. Under the state law, the the housing authority is composed of multiple appointing authorities. Most of them the members in this case, three of the members are appoint are elected on the ballot for
five-year terms. Then you have the citizen appointee uh and then you have the governor's appointee to a housing authority. And the law also provides that if the governor fails to appoint somebody within 120 days of the vacancy, then it goes to the town select board to to fill
that vacancy. We've been notified by David Hison that that 120 days has passed and that as he as he noted that in many of the cases the governor takes no action. Therefore, the um if now falls to the select board to appoint
somebody, David informs us that Charice Latimore has has expressed interest in the position. I reached out to her when I received this email from David Hison and suggested she submitted a committee application form. She has not at this point. So, at this point where we've not
received an application from Shereice, uh, and I think we can add it to our list of committee vacancies and probably do with this at September 8th to allow people time to consider whether they want to be on the board rather than, you know, um, because I'm I'm don't understand why Shereice hasn't expressed
more of an interest. And again, it's your appointment, but my thought would be is what we can do is promote this vacancy and then come back on September 8th. I think probably makes the most sense because it is it is a multi-year u term unexpired term remaining two years. Yeah, two years left and and it is kind
of important for the housing authority. So follow channels. So we'll do that on 98. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. So if anyone's interested in being a part of the Chumsford Housing Authority, now's the time go through the election application.
Submit your application and and I have three appointments for your confirmation this evening. uh one to the age friendly implementation committee Janine Madden for a three-year term ending on June 30th, 2028. And then to the parade committee, Nicholas Hood
uh and Florence Vigant for one-year terms ending July 31st, 2026. Great. Anybody has any Nobody has any questions? I'll take a motion. I'll make a motion the board approve uh the town manager appointments of Janine Madden to
the age friendly implementation committee, Nicholas Hood to the Chelmsford parade committee and Florence Vigant uh to the parade committee uh as presented. I'll second it. We have a motion and a second and we'll
do a roll call vote again. Pat Maloney. Pat, yes. Jeff, yes. Aaron. Yes. And I'm a yes. Thank you, Paul. Okay. And next up, we have meeting minutes.
I think there were some changes that I submitted for these, but I think you had already caught them. I sent them to James and he said he said Pat already saw them. Well, there is one on on page four that I that I missed. Um on the the July 21st minutes,
um looks like the third paragraph. Chair Drew, reviewed the written annual employee performance of town manager. That's not how you spell Paul's first name. I don't know how you missed that. I don't know how you missed that either, Pat. very detailed.
Okay. Did anybody have any other comments on these? Can't remember where the other one was. Okay. If nobody else has anything, I'll take a a motion. And oh, maybe we have to do them separately because one of them is amended or just you can just do them.
You can just say it's amended. Yeah. Okay. So, we have two sets, right? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Okay. I'll make a a motion that the board um recommend approval of the uh meeting minutes from the June 23rd,
2025 meeting and the meeting from July 21st, 2025 as presented as amended. As amended, I'll second that. Sorry, I'm actually just noticing
something else. I might have to Did the June 23rd one say the regular meeting of the board at 6:31 p.m.? Is that unusual? Well, that was the special one before town meeting and we only had a couple of things on it. Okay. Yes. Yes. That's why I'm like,
wait a minute. This is Okay. Um, sorry. So, then we have a motion in a second. Um, we'll do another another roll call vote. Pat Maloney, I. Pat, we'll just Yes. Jeff, yes. Aaron, yes. And I'm an I. They are approved.
Thanks. Um, next up we have um liaison reports and referrals. So, we'll just go around. Pat Maloney, do you have anything? Uh, I don't have much. It's uh July was a really quiet month, but I know that the um permanent building committee is meeting tomorrow night. We should be
receiving um budgets on the two fire stations um and updates on the um plans for for such. Um that's uh tomorrow night. And then there is a um August meeting of the um school building committee for the
Parker Middle School project Thursday night um at six o'clock and uh and we'll proceed from there. We're hoping to get an architect on board soon and get working. So that's all I have. Yeah, I just have a couple of um not
notifications of condolences. Unfortunately, um Kathy O'Brien, I don't know how many people know Kathy O'Brien. She was one of the founding members of the civic committee which is no longer in effect. Uh she also worked with Fran McDougall a lot on the on the farmers market that we had many years ago and
was very active in in budget buddies and and Kathy O'Brien passed away a couple of weeks ago. Um she was a member of the CDA years ago. Okay. Um and uh Gene McLaclin also passed away last week. Uh yeah, she was a member of the League
of Women Voters. Very active. She volunteered a lot in the town clerk's office and she was also a very active member of the friends of the library. So, condolences to the families of of both of them. I have and I do have one. I don't know if these
two gentlemen are waiting. I don't know if they missed at the public input. Do public input. Well, I looked to town the town manager because he knows who's on Zoom. Nobody on. So, yeah. So that's generally why I look to him. I look to the audience, but then I look to him for Zoom. But can we just
revert and do public input now? Can we do that? Okay. So I guess I'm going to reopen public input for I'm sorry you had to wait through that whole meeting. What I came for I guess Mr. Coleman's in a hurry to get home to supper. I don't know. That's not fair. Aren't we all though? Aren't we all?
I'm Ken Harus. I live at 110 Bigalow Street. I'm here for that. But what I came to say is you have two employees I came to say thank you to which is your veteran service people. I avail myself of their service. I'm very happy with them. They're a credit to the town and I urge all the veterans to take advantage
of it and also to take advantage of getting their name if they have a loved one they want the name engraved on at the veterans department to do that. Uh but that's what I came for say that. But on a another note maybe Mr. Mr. Cohen
can find out from New England tell when they're going to replace the pole at the corner of Blazonus and Robert Arbigalo has been red flag for two times for many years now. Uh they might want to replace that sucker before everything
goes kapoo. They replaced up the street but they missed that one. Where is it again? At at the corner of Blazonus and Robert Arbigalo. It's It's a telephone pole. You run into if you miss the turn. Oh, not a double pole. It's a pole. That's No, it's a single pole.
Okay. Okay. If they miss a pole, they hit my br my rock wall. So, they're going to know they hit it. But maybe he can get them to jack up and put another red flag on it or something. Loaded with thanks.
Thank you much. Have a great Thank you. Have a good evening. Thank you. just hanging out. Okay. All right. Um, so back to sorry, liaison reports. Pat, did you have anything else? Too good. Okay. Jeeoff, did you have anything?
Yeah. Um, I want to comment on uh the article for the cemetery. I know Dave Bole has mentioned many times that he's getting a lot of requests for salt chron. We've run out of land and he'd like to put some uh niche walls at the back of the cemetery to extend the life
of that. there's still a lot of local people down there who want to be in South Junction. So, I think it's a great idea. Um, also on the parade committee, we had a reorganization meeting last week because I wanted to get things moving as
quickly as possible for 2026, obviously being our 250th anniversary, there's going to be a lot of people looking for events. And we started discussing that. Nothing was overwhelming from the board that was that I could hear getting approved, but
we did get a new um new chairman, Eric Lindstead, who is very IT savvy and he wants to clean up the processes for the parade committee. I think he'll do a fantastic job. Him and him and uh Paige
Gillette are going to work as co-chairs and I think that's a great move. Um that's pretty much it. Thanks, Jeeoff. Aaron. Yeah, I'm uh I'm pretty late because I was away last week, but I did um join
the age friendly um Zoom meeting and you know, things progress along. Um I had a couple notes on it that I left at the desk at home. Um and we have uh a planning board is tomorrow. Um so there was no meeting to report on from last
week. And then um my apologies to the board of health. I know Donna sent me the uh information ahead of time, but I was unable to attend that meeting because you can't do that one on Zoom. So, um other than that, we'll uh have a more robust update next week based on
the planning board meeting. Okay. Um and I I don't have anything. So, with that, um we're all set. I'll take a motion. Motion to adjurnn. I'll second that. Okay. We have a motion, a second. Another roll call vote. Pat Maloney.
Correct. Hi. Pat Wes. Yes. Jeff. Yes. Aaron? Yes. And I'm a yes. And we are adjourned.