good evening everyone this is a meeting of the Chelsea Licensing Commission today is Thursday April 10th 2025 um with me this evening are my fellow commissioners Neo Lopez Mike Mcateeer
Emily Churniaak myself Marty McAlpine as well as our uh licensing clerk Naomi Libron our um assistant city solicitor Peter Christopher and Sergeant Chung from the Chelsea Police Department i
also see officer Mclofflin with us this evening from the police department um so thank you all for joining us this evening um I I did want to very quickly thank my fellow commissioners for covering for me
a couple of weeks ago um and for opting to uh have me stay on as the chair for another year um my my family was going through a very difficult time so I appreciate you guys covering for me um while we were doing that um and um
excited to do this for another year and uh help keep things moving in our city so thank you for that um next um on the agenda we do have several things so before we get started I do just want uh to make a couple of
housekeeping notes um if you are coming and speaking before us this evening please step fully up to the microphone clearly state your name and reason before us um if there are multiple people speaking on a uh particular
matter we do ask that each person step to the microphone to speak it helps not only us here up here it also helps anyone that is watching this in the community um whether they're watching on Chelsea uh cable TV on Facebook Live or
they're watching a future recording they're able to understand all of the conversations that take place today um so I appreciate everyone doing that um we do have a few things on the agenda today so we will try to keep it moving as quickly as possible um to start uh
communications from the licensing department um yeah um the ABCC uh sent an advisory which I sent to all the um alcoholic beverage licenses on January 8th Governor Mara Healey
signed an act further regulating the acceptance of certain types of identification to purchase alcohol which changes the Mass General Laws chapter 138 section 34B so as a result beginning on April 8th
2025 alcohol beverage licences may um rely on the following forms of uh issued identification for proof of age um the new additions is um valid
driver's license issued by another state and also a global entry card issued by the United States Customs and Border Protection and I sent all these to the alcohol beverage lencies thank you very much um any other updates
from the licensing department nope all done perfect thank you uh next on the agenda we have a public hearing to consider a change of hours from Sunday to Saturday 11:00 a.m to 11:00 p.m to Sunday to Saturday 11:00
a.m to 1:00 a.m on a beer and wine liquor license application for Rancho Lasapus Incorporated DBA Rancho Lasapus at 362nd Street Chelsea Mass good evening madame chair madame clerk members of the commission uh this is
Mark White on behalf of Rancho Laspuas Inc i'm here with president of Ranchul Laspus Inc gustavo Serna um this was a license that was transferred just about a year ago I think 11 months ago um and
at the time um there was a restriction put on the time up until 11 p.m we were going to reconsider I believe 6 months later here we are a year later i believe that the uh establishment has been operated without incident and we're here to see if we can get the hours extended
thank you i appreciate that um fellow commissioners uh does anyone have any initial questions before I open it up to the police department for uh their take on things yeah I have a
question um I know they were closed for a while when did they start to to open the the business again i know there was a restaurant without beers and and
alcohol wine so this was a situation where the restaurant was closed for a period of time there was a death in the family and for a period of time there was um the there was a negotiation of the transfer between his stepdaughters
because his wife had passed away and and I think that was really what caused the big delay with the with with the business wasn't reopened until he was that the the license was transferred back to him okay and how long how long was you
guys are open now or for full service yeah right now the food service is 11 to 11 and oh 30 years more or less yeah I know but my question is right I know they were closed for a while they was selling no
beer and wine and I didn't know why at that time it wasn't here but um it was just a restaurant now my question is when do you start did they started again selling beer and wine so this particular one if I remember correctly and please
please correct me if I'm wrong uh there used to be two similar businesses in town no he owns or used to own He used to own two one on Washington and the one on Second Street and then the one on Washington had So the one on
Second Street and the one on Second Street had had a beer and wine had had beer and wine and the um name on the license was Gustavo's wife she passed away she passed away okay
so then the license kind of got tied up for a little bit um in the estate um so it became who who is the rightful transfer of that license whether it
would go to Gustavo or it would go to his wife's um daughters so there was there was a lot of back and forth that way so things got postponed for a while and then it that all got settled last year
that became a pocket license so they lost out on it and then he 11 months ago oh 11 months that was my question transferred over the one from the Washington A was transfer okay thank you just I was just curious yeah it it was
definitely it was a long process there there was a lot of back and forth on that one to get that settled thank you but yeah that makes sense i remember the two the two places um other questions um
to start from my fellow commissioners no uh Sergeant Chung um feedback from the police department good evening council good evening Gustavo um yes a few things do you
currently have security gustavo doesn't have any right now because he he closes early but he will put security there okay the reason why I asked is because your location at Second Street is currently still in a very much so residential area and as a result when
you close at 1 people congregating outside and loitering outside post close time that's not acceptable so you you have to have some sort of communication and and being a good neighbor to your residents to your neighbors alongside of
that location is to make sure people are dispersing yes he he understands and and prior to this when he did when he was open till when they did do that but now because they're they're they're open until just 11 they haven't but he will be putting that back in place if the uh license is
extended okay so as a reminder for security guards they need to be in red shirts it this word security can be in English or Spanish front and rear of the shirt yes um I also wanted to mention that an incident occurred on April 2nd
um where your establishment was a big help to us in regards to reviewing of cameras so I didn't want to just throw a bunch of heat at you and not give you flowers and kudos where it matters so just wanted to say thank you for that as a reminder I do remember your
business on Washington Nav and I do remember the calls and the issues that occurred at that establishment so I'm hoping that we are on to greener pastures with this current location um yes they will thank you best of luck
to you thank you um on that I do also remember the Washington location from um the license over there um and as somebody that lives in that area of the city um there was always people ordering
outside of that restaurant um that were fairly intoxicated um so I would hope we're not going to see that at the new location okay it it is very important because that that does break some of the rules
of the city um and uh I just I remember how bad it used to be at the other location so very important to make sure that that is addressed moving forward i promise keep nice and quiet we like that we like that commissioners I did want to
mention that a Corey check was reconducted and it was clear at this time thank you very much um before I open this up to the public do you have the certified return receipts for all the abutters uh I do um if you can uh make sure that Naomi gets those today
that would be appreciated um is there anyone from the public that would like to speak on this matter seeing no one um the only thing that I I would have as a concern which I believe we've had as concerns for some of our
other establishments in the community is having a a bar or restaurant open with a liquor license 7 days a week until 1:00 a.m in a residential area um my concern is how much disturbance that may cause
for the community um I believe what we've done for some of the others is we allow the 1 a.m on like Friday and Saturday nights um but not necessarily all the other days of the week um it's like are they really eating
um you know like I know there's food technically but it tends to be more of a bar right that late past like 11 and they're asking for every night every night seven days a week until 1:00 am i think we usually do like Thursday Friday but like like Monday Tuesday Wednesday
feels like excessive i don't know what do you guys think that's kind of usually Yeah I think we did it with um I think I think we did Thursday Friday and Saturday i think that tends to be what we've done
for the ones in the residential areas um just as a a courtesy to the people that live surrounding um these bars and restaurants so that way on kind of your standard work nights um people aren't being disturbed and
they're able to get um the rest that they need without having to deal with that um because I do also see in that paperwork that the entertainment license on that
establishment currently goes until 1:00 a.m 7 days a week um so I would be hesitant to also grant a liquor license until 1:00 am 7 days a week um because I feel like that could be an issue Sunday
Monday Tuesday and Wednesday yeah because 1 a.m close is really 2 am noise finally outside dissipates like it's it's a lot for a Monday night thoughts i'm in agreement yeah would anybody like
to make any sort of a motion motion for uh 1:00 a.m extended hours Thursday Friday Saturday and then regular close at 11 Sunday through Wednesday night right yep did you get
that i would second that i think uh I think it's fair because uh people work you know you know the the weekdays especially Monday Tuesday and Wednesday everybody got to get up early in the mornings
so I agree with those the day they that she said okay um so Emily made the motion for um an extension of the hours Thursday Friday Saturday night until 1:00 a.m
sunday through Wednesday night remaining at 11 p.m and neo seconded all in favor i thank you thank you very much and good luck thank you next on the agenda this evening we have
a public hearing to consider a class 2 license application for Rivian LLC at 25 Griffin Way Chelsea Mass good evening Madam Chair miss Brian Ree here on behalf of Rivian and hello commissioners as well thank you for joining us this
evening can you um share with us a little bit about what your your plans are and why you're before us this evening yes absolutely so Rivian we have a uh currently have a service center um not too far from here uh we have a class one deal license at
that location to be clear we're not selling vehicles from that location i believe when we applied for that class one deal license the purpose of that was simply for Thailand registration and for delivery of vehicles um we are not since getting the class one license just
recently Rivian has rolled out a Rivian pre-owned vehicle program where customers can um purchase used vehicles online as well uh we and with this class 2 license we would like to extend um that offering to uh people in
Massachusetts as well again there will not be any sales activity we just simply want to be able to tile and register used vehicles from our Chelsea location okay um questions from my fellow commissioners
so these vehicles you towing them into the into the into the bays can you drive them in now i know there was a rule saying you couldn't drive in the building no they're they're they are currently being delivered from our location so I believe they are being towed in towed in other one more question and And what's
this what type of work are you going to be doing on these vehicles they're all going to be electric vehicles every one of them yes absolutely all only Rivians only and what are you going to be doing besides you know the maintenance that you were doing on the new ones oh we we have no plans to to sell or any any non vehicles what do you have to do to them
the license what are you going to do to the cars that you didn't do before oh it'll So essentially right now we are simply delivering new vehicles but with this license we will be able to now be able to deliver used Arabian vehicles from our Chelsea location so no no no
change to our current operations except for for be able to offer used Vivian to customers what about work on the vehicles you doing anything to them no just simply uh have the customer come in and pick up the vehicle it already has it already is a service center so So
what kind of service are you doing uh we do you know warranty work uh any sort of mechanical work anything related to our Rivian vehicles we service at our Chelsea service center okay so um really what they're doing just to
make sure that we're all clear on this is they already have the service center they already have the class one license which permits them to sell the used vehicles i'm sorry which permits them to sell the new vehicles so what they're
looking to do now is to have the ability to sell used vehicles um so there's they're already a service center that has been approved and has a license they already have the license for brand new vehicles this is merely a modification
to add a secondary license for used vehicles okay other questions no okay sergeant Chung anything from the police department
uh nothing from the police department very limited call logs the only calls that we've been there are called in by the property themselves relative to damages to property and whatnot so okay thank you is there anyone from the
public that would like to speak on this matter seeing no one would one of my fellow commissioners like to make a motion to approve the class 2 license application for Rivian LLC at 25 Griffin Way Chelsea
Mats i make a motion to approve since they already have a the license for new car so perfect and can I get a second second all in favor i
I thank you very much and good luck next on the agenda this evening we have a public hearing to consider a change of officers directors LLC manager on an all alcohol license application for Interstate Management Company LLC DBA
Town Place Suites by Marriott Chelsea at 30 Eastern Avenue Chelsea Mats um good a good evening um yes my name is Stefano Enis i am the general manager at the Tomplay Suites location representing the company as we have a change in
officers perfect um thank you for coming before us um initial questions from my fellow commissioners no uh Sergeant Chung um any um questions or
concerns from the police department what time does your service start well um currently it's not it's not open so this is just more of a of a renewal of a license that we have but we're not
currently serving oh so you don't have like an hours of operation for service um uh when when it's open it will be 5 to 11:00 okay i did a Corey check of all the new
officers that was in this paperwork they all uh were clear um the one thing I did want to mention and maybe this doesn't translate well or is understood um by your front desk clerks cuz you're
not exactly like a liquor store or um a bar and restaurant that it becomes immediately apparent that you're still a licensed establishment so as a result I just want to remind you to remind your staff that if we go there for a call and
if we're asking for their information you're under ABC roles being a licensed establishment to provide that so um as long as they understand that that would be great other than that we have
had very small call logs there um the calls that have came out from this location have been usually called in by the staff so they are governing their location pretty well um other than that no other issues here
thank you Sergeant um kind of along the same lines as what she mentioned just since you're before us today um just a a reiteration of what one of the big rules of having a license in our city is maintaining the video
surveillance um so not only having the video camera system but maintaining the footage for a rolling 30 days and then providing it in a timely manner when the city or the police department requests that video surveillance um I say this
because um if you've paid any attention to any of our meetings for the last couple of years it is one of the um items that people fail to comply with the most and causes people to have to come before us for disciplinary hearings
um so very important to make sure that your system is in working order and if you have any issues with your system to let our police department know um and work to rectify that as quickly as possible um but I want to make sure that
that the hotel understands those rules and that everyone in the hotel needs to comply when our police department does come requesting that information um so I just like to address that when our licences are in front of us um so moving forward if there's an issue and you
stand before us and you say "But I didn't know." We've we've had it verbally in addition to all the paperwork um that the city provides that states that understood thank you is there anyone from the public that would
like to speak on this matter seeing no one um any other questions comments from my fellow commissioners no okay can I have a
motion to approve the change in officers directors LLC manager application for Interstate Management Company LLC DBA Town Place Suites by Marriott Chelsea at 30 Eastern A i make a motion to approve and a second
i'll second that all in favor i thank you thank you very much thank you next on the agenda this evening we have a conference on the allegation of selling to an intoxicated person at Unity Beverages Incorporated DBA Heler's
Liquors at 429 Broadway Chelsea Mass good evening Madame Chair good evening council members and good evening officers who every day make sure we are very safe my name is Ike Asog i am the
manager of Helas Los on 429 Broadway Chelsea perfect thank you for coming before us this evening um to start this um item on the agenda off I am going to refer to Sergeant Chung to share with us
um the um concerns that the police department has brought to our attention thank you Madam Chair thank you Ike uh I wrote a summary which I will read from thank you
i Sergeant Chong am requesting a conference for Heler's Liquors out of 429 Broadway due to the following summarized fact pattern below on March 11th 2025 at approximately 100 p.m I observed what appeared to be a sale of alcohol to intoxicated individuals by
said establishment upon further investigation including the pending review of requested security video submitted by owner identified as Ike on March 17th for set day I observed numerous licensing violations involving
the sale of alcohol to another intoxicated party within a short time frame an altercation that almost became physical between the same intoxicated party and a loiterer and loiterers in the establishment not moved along or asked to leave this intoxicated party
was also observed to take a drink of alcohol while inside of the establishment during this time the establishment never called the police for assistance in the conduct occurring in their store and failed to keep order of the environment of their licensed establishment per the city of Chelsea
rules and regulations in accordance with the alcoholic beverages control commission additionally from the video footages I have seen thus far ID checks were not conducted by said clerk for not one single patron during my conversation
with Ike on this day I was able to request that he sent me a manifest of all his employees in which he did so on March 13th which showed a total of six clerks an administrative cons inspection was then conducted at said location on
April 8th 2025 and additional violations were observed involving the manner of signage and posting of the licenses issued to the establishment owner also transparently stated that he did not have a copy of the rules and regulations available in the store without being in
the store it could not be determined at this time if his employees are actually trained or have read the rules and regulation as it is not readily available for them to review there were also no price points identifiable on most of the alcohol in this said establishment officers also could not
observe the hours of operation posted during our visit i also inquired on the number of clerks he had in which he stated that he interchangeably utilizes them between both licensed establishment that he owns which is Heler Liquors and Broadway Liquors it should also be noted
that the rear door to set establishment was locked and have been locked since 2013 it should be noted though that in 2013 the licensing commission then sanctioned a 14-day suspension against Helers for various infractions and was able to get approval for the rear door
to no longer be an entrance or an exit due to the constant trespassing and loiterers when Helers still had their own bottle redemption area based on the summary above the Chelsea PD would like to highlight the following violations observed more may be determined upon the
complete review of involved surveillance footage section 2.02 subsection Availability of rules and regulations also letter C which is responsible for ensuring that all employees of the lency read the rules and regulations of the commission and
comply therewith section 2.03 03 posting in signs subsection A posted in a conspicuous place easily seen by the public where they can be read without difficulty section 2.04 subsection G admissions to the
premises lency may refuse entrance to the premises to a person who appears to be intoxicated or unruly a and may evict such a patron except that in such a case the lency should call the police and should offer assistance to an intoxicated person when possible section
2.05 hours of operation not posted section 2.08 subsection B subsection P B says all licences shall maintain a schedule of prices charged for all drinks subsection P shows alcoholic beverage licenses are forbidden to make
a sale or delivery of alcoholic beverages or alcohol to a person who is intoxicated section 2.09 environments of licensed premises subsection A shall be the obligation of the lences to ensure that a high degree of supervision is exercised over the conduct of the
license establishment at all times each lency will be held accountable for all violations subsection C licences shall act reasonably and diligently to disperse loiterers or patrons who attempt to congregate in front or at licensed
premises subsection E when any noise disturbance misconduct disorder actor activity occurs in the licensed premises or in the parking lot or in the area in front or adjacent which in the judgment of the commission adversely affects the protection health welfare safety or
repose of the residents of the area or results in the licensed premises becoming the focal point for police detention the licency may be held in violation of the license section 2.13 illegal activity on the licensed premises subsection A licences shall make all reasonable and diligent efforts
to ensure that illegal activities do not occur at the licensed premises such efforts may include number five specifically calling for police assistance as necessary to protect patrons against injury or to evict unruly patrons or to uncover unlawful conduct or to give medical assistance
and providing police with requested information subsection H license shall have operational video surveillance system video surveillance system that the owner provided me had skips in between some areas of video were
shortened by 7 minutes 2 to 7 minutes and there were skips that did not provide a seamless uh video surveillance in conclusion with the interest of addressing quality of life issues especially in the downtown area when a
licensed establishment fails to adhere to the rules and regulations they no longer act as good neighbors contributing to the success of our community but they are adversely contributing to the perpetual conduct and issues that ultimately enables individuals who may be already battling
with substance dependency medically as a result the Chelsea Police Department is recommending that this the matter be moved to a disciplinary hearing where official incident reports will be submitted and presented including the video evidence available to support the findings and
allegations as a note these rules and regulations recited or paraphrased as I know um in the interest of time thank you Sergeant uh thank you for bringing this to our attention uh do you have anything that you would
like to say on that with the understanding that this is just a conference to bring this to our attention and then we will decide today if this is moving to a disciplinary hearing thank you Madame Chair um to me it looks like there are too many of them that I
may not stand here to start itemizing but one thing that is clear and a few that I do remember is on her demand that's the sergeant's demand i am here today with some of my uh cls uh the
reason is so that we all are participatory to this hearing and um possibly if there are corrections that we need to make we take it from this point mhm to uh just like she stated uh
about two or three or four days back she had come in with another officer to check on compliance regulations and she had noted a few things that she demanded of me to do and I'm working as seriously
and seriously to bring those things up to date and third regarding the exit door four years back I was before this honorable committee mhm and the instruction that was passed to me was
because of a lot of shady things that were happening with Helas that that door must be remained closed mhm and I've tried to keep that not to go contrary to the instruction of this honorable
committee so when she came in she was like "It has to be opened and I'm glad we're here today so that you give me a definite instruction on what to do and I will be in compliance with whatever you ask of me to do." Then I would say
because there are so many things she has pointed out that if you ask anybody I am more or less like an image on the block mhm because I that is my living and livelihood so I
do not to need to toy with it so I'm I come in I live all the way back in uh Mortin area mhm so once I come in I don't leave until midnight the essence of it is to make sure that I am
supervising adequately as much as I can and with regards to the video footage these are motion sensored um camera I did not go to clip off anything so if she saw some videos that
are inactive for 7 minutes that means there is no life on that screen or that section so I just want to make sure that she understands that whatever I submitted to her despite the fact Mhm but she had given me a
little space uh saving device but I had to go spend about $50 to get enough space and downloaded the 48 hours that she demanded of me to do just to tell her or to tell the committee that we are
not doing anything that is hidden and numerous occasions we have had to place calls to the police we will not on purpose sell to any intoxicated person but on this fateful day I do
remember I had a trainee who had just been there for two or three days and I had a doctor's appointment i could not compromise my health over making money so I excused to go to see my doctor and
that was when this incident happened so the lady she's here had said to me when I asked her that there were two of them i'm just stating what she said mhm she because I have given her the training that one was intoxicated one was not she
sold to one mhm then I corrected the I said if you see two people even if one is okay you don't that's part of the training and that's why I am persistently constantly available but one caveat I need to add even though
it's not an excuse some of these things happened when the construction was going on so they used those hidden hidden kobicos and I think that was at the point the officer saw them as soon as they bought it they went out popped it open and started drinking and that
caught her attention so things outside my immediate environment I don't think we have control over that so but regardless whatever that she has pinpointed that I should do to be in
total compliance I'm more than willing to do that thank you thank you um we we do appreciate you taking this seriously um given the number of infractions that the um police department has brought to
our attention I I do feel that this has to go to a disciplinary hearing um in in which case we will review the footage um and we'll have formal incident logs to review and then at that time we can make
any sort of rulings as to what you may or may not have been in violation of and if there's any sort of discipline that has to come from what we find once we have that full presentation um
the a lot of th these things are super important to make sure that um you are always following these rules and most of these items that were displayed today are listed in those rules and regulations um so in the meantime make sure you keep working on the items that
she's provided to you so when you come before us for the disciplinary hearing hopefully you've already corrected um the bulk of the items if not all of the items that um have been brought to your attention regarding the exit door um
without having time to do some research and find out what was discussed um I can't really speak to that today um we would have to go back and look at what was discussed the last time um if it had been discussed that it could be kept as a locked door and was no longer an
entrance you just need to make sure that there's no sort of signage that notes it as an entrance or an exit um to make sure um that people aren't expecting that door to be unlocked um but all of that will have time to pull that
information um in advance of that disciplinary hearing um so I would like to ask if um any Well before before I do that is there anyone from the public that has anything to say on this matter at this
time seeing no one um I would like to see if any of my fellow commissioners would be uh willing to make a motion to move this to a disciplinary hearing at our next meeting m madame chair may I ask a couple of
questions before I step aside or I I allow you to finish your Certainly okay so my understanding is that we should keep the back door locked until you take a decision on that am I correct if that is a rule that you already had from the
licensing department yes okay the other question that is causing a little bit of confusion and I need some clarity because just to make you understand that I'm taking every every observation seriously i called ABCCC yesterday in
line with um in line with the recent uh mail mhm on item four which says passport issued by the United States or government that is officially recognized
by the United States mhm and the gentleman I spoke with over there told me that that first and foremost and I'm trying to quote as correctly as I remember do not sell to anybody under 21
that is very obvious second and foremost that the foreign passports that are current are recognizable by the United States so I'm a little bit in the shade here and I
need um if possibly so that I will be in total compliance as much as possible may I May I add to that yes so interestingly so after we visited you this info notice came out and there's
actually a link that shows government foreign governments that are recognized by the United States i have your email i can forward you that link so that way you'll know which passports foreign passports you can accept okay thank you i will be more than glad to have that
besides the officer had given me a link to order at the cost of $20 so I'm working on that just to tell you that I'm taking everything very seriously i appreciate that thank you um can I get a motion to move this to a disciplinary
hearing at our meeting next month motion and a second a second all in favor hi thank you um so we will see you at our next meeting um right timing
still works um so that next meeting just so you know is going to be on May 8th um so uh we'll move this to a disciplinary hearing and we'll run through things in more detail at that time and make any necessary decisions at that time will I
get notification on the venue point yes okay it is most likely right here okay thank you so much yeah thank you thank you uh next on the agenda we have a continued public hearing on the adoption of the residential property management
regulations for the new license property management license so do you want me to go over it or um so my understanding um is that our city
council um has just approved new rules for uh residential property management so regardless of the size of the property that is being managed whether it's something as small as one unit or as many as 200 units
everybody um would fall underneath the requirement to have a property management license if they are managing a property owned by somebody else and the licensing commission is going to be
um the ones overseeing the um proper utilization of those licenses and ensuring that they are in compliance with our city's rules and regulations yes that is correct okay um there's only
one thing that I didn't like in the uh rules and regulations for our commission um that I just I wanted to point out um and it's in section 14.03 the procedure
prior to the issuance of a license that's in the ordinance that's in the ordinance so there's there's I don't I don't like one of the words so I understand that our licensing department can issue licenses without it having to
come before the board makes sense there's so many of them that would just kind of happen the part that I question and I question it more so to ensure fairness um in the future in our community is the
line where it says the licensing commission has the authority in the discretion of the chair or by a vote of the board to summon the representatives of an applicant company before the board prior to the approval of a license i don't think the chair themselves
should be able to have somebody come before i think it should have to be a vote of the commission because I don't think the person who sits in this chair should have that ability to just decide that somebody put something well the
chair has the authority to put things on the agenda of the commission that's that's the way it is um so one way or another i I guess from my perspective I would say that would short
circuit public uh open meeting law concerns that um someone may have so giving the chair the authority to do that prior to a meeting would allow you to to say or not say uh put somebody on
the agenda um without having to go through everybody on the board so instead of having a meeting to vote on whether or not we want to bring someone forward chair would have the authority to say um
this is a situation where we would like to see someone go come in front of us again that's part of the the city council's ordinance um so it's not a regulation that's before this board um and who would notify the chair um
licensing license and um yeah the the idea would be I think that they would be in close communication um if there was a concern about somebody's application for whatever per whatever reason they might have um I don't think that we're going
to see a lot of people have to come before you before they get the license right i I think that this commission's interaction with this ordinance is primarily going to be
um you know someone is applying i could think of two I could think of two that yeah you probably would would want to bring up i I could see that the bulk of the time this is going to be a disciplinary matter right but so everybody gets a license applies to the
license right around the same time there's two of them probably you'd want to look at even before i think I I'm not I'm not the chair but I'm thinking someone's going to tell you let's say let's look at these people before we even get them in there but do do you guys understand my concern
of that phrasing it's a lot of work for you it's a lot of work well no not that it's a lot of work for me my concern is if I'm not sitting in this chair I worry that it gives somebody the opportunity to unfairly call somebody sure but
that's commission yeah but I don't think like you you run you nominate yourself to be chair and you vote to be chair by the board so like there's checks and balances that that's really my my only concern is looking to the future but then you can vote
so it's not you're not like a authoritarian voted out well even today you you have control of the chair is the control of the agenda every board every board does that so theoretically before every licensing commission the chair would say these are
the items that are on the agenda and Naomi gives the paperwork or whatever and says these are the applications we have um you know if you don't want a board chair and just everyone's the same that's like a different and I wouldn't think it would be you doing that I would think that either the law department
licensing department or or or ISD would would contact you before it's not like you just pick someone randomly someone would notify you this is a person that's my concern concern is that it it you would never know theoretically would give someone the ability to do that which is what I don't want to ever be
the case that's just like I don't think it's it's the same it's the same as you know like with the if you just took what the today's agenda was um you know we had a a referral from the police department about an issue and it was put
on the agenda i I don't know what the interactions between you and Naomi are but you have to say "Okay that's something I want to put on for a conference." It's the commission that then moves for whatever the subsequent um actions are which is fine that's not
the way our agenda has been built during my time here um but we could have put a different but that's where the I don't know that it w it you do have that authority well you know
right now you could Yeah you you could you could you know say I don't want to do that anymore i don't want to have these people come before us you're the chair that's your within your prerogative to do that um yeah i guess in in good faith we we say you know Yeah
i mean I We put a lot I guess you have to hope that whoever we put a lot of faith in whoever sits in the seat is well there's an appointment process who gets on so there's lots of checks and balances around it like by this point if
that's I mean I just that that was my only question um in the documentation I I do feel that it is something that's needed in the community I do think we have some um properties that are not being managed properly and that's not fair to the
residents so putting some checks and balances in place to help protect the community I think is a good thing um so do we have to make any sort of a you have to adopt them yeah so it was raised for a public hearing in the last
meeting continued to this meeting um so you can uh pass uh deny or amend however you see fit um any other questions comments from my
fellow commissioners um can I get a motion to adopt the residential property management regulation um actually before I do that um Sergeant Chong anything from the police department i guess ultimately would just we should
probably meet to kind of sort out if there were any issues or calls would it be the same manner of bringing it to the commission's attention or would it go through ISD first and then ISD would do the present you know present it to the
commissions so that's kind of just I think you your department fire department my department I mean any of the above i think any of the above a lot of Yeah there's a lot of departments that could you know raise an issue and and and get it in front of the licensing board
and then like like anything else under licensing obviously the camera requirements falls under just the license establishment that serves alcohol um but I remember last month we were discussing that that that may be if it turns into a from conference to
disciplinary hearing that could be one of the stipulations introduced um so to one person or one property but not everywhere right right exactly just like that problem property or whatever the case may be like a previous situation on Congress yes exactly right okay as just
wanted to confirm thank you okay uh I have a question yes um to clear to make this clear if we approve this who's going to be in charge to follow with all these uh managements that uh for example
there's one has a violation complaint from the tenants who will follow that isd fire department police nothing changes they're all going to follow it the only thing is now there's some teeth like to say there's a
fire violation fire violation contact licensing department they get in front of us we can take their license away yeah they can lose their license and manage properties which is a big deal so when they do their license they won't be able to manage that specifically okay
and then if they do manage it we can find the owner for hiring someone who's not licensed definitely gives a few more layers to be able to enforce um the violations because I I mean just based upon what I I see being out in the
community and then what what you hear from neighbors we do have a few locations that are regularly commented on um with um companies not actually taking care of their property some of them are good building owners but they
just have bad land bad uh property managers which hopefully in this case then they'll have to get they'll have they'll have to get a new property manager um because if we take away the right for uh
the individuals that are not in compliance to be in the city then I think that fixes that will have a right to live so if we vote tonight to to approve this
uh was there anyone from the public that wanted to speak on this matter seeing no one um can I have a motion to adopt the residential property management regulations for the new licensed
property management licences i make a motion to adopt Thank you and a second second all in favor i i thank you thank you um moving right along number six on the agenda an
approval of our 2025 completed petroleum licenses um so just to confirm these next three items are on the agenda are just the standard annual renewals okay um so these next three
items uh if my fellow commissioners are all in favor we can uh vote on as a group does that work for the three of you yes okay so can I get a motion to
approve the 2025 completed annual renewals for the petroleum licenses garage and parking lot licenses and old gold and pond broker licenses i
make a a motion to approve and a second i second perfect second thank you very much um is there anything else that anyone would like to bring to our attention this evening the police department would certainly
Sergeant go ahead um this is on behalf of Chief Chief Hton um we wanted to address the topic of constables since they fall under licensing and with the Massachusetts Post Commission which is the peace officer standards and training
um change the playing the playing field a little bit for constipables what they're able to do what they're not able to do um requiring a police academy etc and so on and so forth i'll show you the literature um but what the chief is
looking to do is once they get their Corey gets cleared is to highlight and and notate somewhere officially that they're only allowed to serve civil process only and other stipulations that the chief wanted
to um add this was um in conversation via email um last month or so uh but it never made it to table so we're looking to uh discuss this further in regards to the roles of the con constables um and
our responsibilities um separate from constiples and the way we govern them thank you um can I get a motion from my fellow commissioners to move that to a
public hearing at our next meeting and a second second all in favor thank you Sergeant thank you is there anything else this evening seeing no one our next meeting will take
place on May 8th 2025 at 6 PM meeting adjourned