Good evening. This is the zoning board of appeals. I am Janice Tatara. I'm joined by other members of the board, Joan Cromwell, Joseph Mahoney, Marilyn Vega Torres, and Arthur Arsenalt. And on this side we have the staff that keeps us running. John Der Priest, Adam Roy,
Will Cio, and Hector Valz. Let me explain a little bit about the process how this is going to work today. This is the first hearing. We will not be deciding anything today. After today, the meet it will go to the planning board. The hearing will go to the planning board on the 15th of July. So,
first we will get a presentation from the um the petitioners. Then the public will have an opportunity to speak. And again, this won't be the only opportunity because when we come back here in a in yeah, in August, then the hearing will still be open and people will be able to speak. Today, I will ask
people to speak, limit their remarks to three minutes. This way, it gives everybody the opportunity to speak. If at the end of everybody's chance to speak, if something is wasn't said that you believe needed to be said, people can come up and add another minute or so to what they had heard. But just to keep
this way, we can keep it going and making sure everybody has the chance to speak. So, um, let's see. Is there anything else I wanted to make sure I covered? That was it. Um, oh, and whenever you speak, make sure you speak into your microphones because this is going, obviously, Channel 5 is here. Um,
and that will be also going on CCTV. If you're uncomfortable with being filmed with Channel 5, just let us know ahead of time or through somebody and we'll ask them to stop filming during that period of time. So, um, I'm going to begin by reading the formal hearing and then open it up to the petitioner. This
is case 202507 100. Justin Drive, Boston Provisions LLC for special permits to establish a CESUS processing and distribution facility in the industrial one district and extend the use into the adjoining lot in the
naval host naval hospital commercial NHC district. John, there are comments that you wanted to make. uh just the permits for the board. The permits that you are looking at the uh the site in which the proposed use is located is in the in the industrial district. Uh and the
associated parking is in the abuing naval hospital commercial district. The proposed use is for a 75,000 square foot meat processor with 7,500 square feet or 10% of the site set aside for fish processing. The meat processing itself is permitted by right, meaning that no
zoning review is required for that use. However, the 7,500 square feet of fish processing is permitted in the industrial district subject to issuance of a special permit from the zoning board of appeals. Uh, the proposed use is not permitted in the Naval Hospital District. So, the parking proposed in that district will require a special
permit also from you to extend the parking use into that district. In addition to these special permits, the meat processing site is over 8,000 square feet in size and requires more than 25 off street parking spaces. Therefore, major site plan review by the planning board is also required. That
will take place on uh July 15th. Thank you. And um so could you please petitioners introduce yourselves and introduce us to your project. Oh, and by the way, if anybody can't see, they want to see, feel free to come and stand over on the sides. Just don't stand in front of us so we can be able to see. Okay?
You're welcome to stand over there. Good evening everyone. David Midland representing Boston Provisions, the petitioner in this matter. Uh Mr. Depri has explained very clearly what the purpose of this petition is. Um I have a
team with me led by Michael Monise who is the CEO of Boston Provisions. He will begin the presentation and then introduce the other people on our team as we go along. um team members have very specific knowledge as to some of
the issues that are concerning people here and hopefully questions will be answered to everyone's satisfaction. Um so Michael um do you want to start? You ready? Sure. If it's easier if it's easier for you to
walk around with the microphone that's fine but make just make sure you're always talking into the microphone. Thank you. I'm going to start seated. A little nervous. Okay. Good evening everyone and thank you for being here. My name is Mike Monus and I'm the CEO of Boston Provisions. On behalf of our
entire team, I want to sincerely thank the members of the zoning board and the residents of Chelsea for taking the time to attend tonight's meeting. I apologize to the residents that this monitor is maybe not easily seen, but do note that by the hopefully by the end of this week, everything that we share in this
presentation as well as any reports that we reference will be available on www.bostonprovisions.com. Okay, so we're here to talk about our proposed project at 100 Justin Drive. A project we believe will bring jobs, opportunity, long-term investment to
this community. We're looking forward to sharing our plans with you, answering your questions, and working together to make sure this project is a positive addition to the city of Chelsea. John, could you please go to the next slide? Okay. Before we dive in, I'd like to
introduce the key members of our team who have been instrumental in bringing this project forward. You'll be hearing from several of them tonight, including Dimmitri Hazelig, our vice president of operations, Alicia Lumea, president uh vice president of marketing and brand strategy. Dale Rzinski, principal
engineer at Epsilon Associates who conducted the environmental and odor mitigation assessments, and Elizabeth Perth, an associate principal at Howard Stein and Hudson, who led our traffic and transportation studies. Together, this team brings a deep commitment to transparency, responsible development,
and collaboration with the city of Chelsea. Tonight's presentation is designed to give you a clear and thorough understanding of who we are, how we operate, and what this project would mean for the city, from job creation, environmental safeguards to traffic flow, and community engagement. We also
hope that tonight serves as an opportunity to clarify some of the questions and concerns that have come up around the project. There's been a fair amount of information circulating and we want to ensure that everyone has have a chance to understand the accurate picture of what we're proposing and why.
For starters, this is not a seafood processing facility. Boston Provisions is a food centric, chef ccentric wholesaler and distributor. We serve professional kitchens, restaurants, hotels, universities, specialty retailers by
providing them with premium seafood, meats, and gourmet essentials. If you think of a grocery store, Boston Provisions is like the back of house version. We have a seafood department, we have a meat department, and we have a specialy dry goods department, except instead of shoppers, our customers are
chefs. Instead of shopping carts, we're loading refrigerated trucks headed to the region's best kitchens. We aren't a manufacturer or a processor in the traditional sense. We are a service provider sourcing and preparing exceptional ingredients for people who rely on quality, consistency, and
transparency every day. Boston Provisions is the operational backbone behind two of Boston's most respected food brands, Wolves Fish and Savor's Butchery. In this new facility, we will bring them together under one efficient modern roof. Wolves Fish and Savinos Butchery aren't
just respected food brands. They're actually regarded as institutions. I'm sure many of the people in this room are aware of one of one of the two. Both have served the greater Boston area for nearly a hundred years. In fact, Wols will hit its centennial next year in 2026. Waltz was founded in 1926 in
Brooklyn, known for its commitment to responsible sourcing, supporting the neighborhood, supporting the waterfronts, and was in was has evolved into a modern seafood company trusted by chefs across the country. Currently servicing east as Boston all the way west to Napa.
Savoor's Butchery was founded in 1939 in Cambridge and rose to national prominence as Julia Child's go-to butcher. Many of you may know Savinors as the official butcher of the Boston Red Sox, and it remains a symbol of quality and tradition in New England. These two iconic businesses helped shape
Boston's food culture for generations. And now, with Boston Provisions, we're building the infrastructure to carry that legacy forward for the next 100 years, hopefully in the city of Chelsea. This project just isn't about a new building. It's about people. Boston
Provisions is 100% employeeowned and operated. We pay a median wage of over $62,500 and cap executive compensation at no more than four times the lowest salaried employee. Our current team is 125 strong and
roughly 15% of them already live right here in the city of Chelsea. We plan to relocate all 125 jobs to Justin Drive on day one and we anticipate creating another 125 jobs in the first three years. I've been in this business since
2017 when there are fewer than 20 staff members. Nearly a decade later, I'm proud to share that a majority of our team has been with us for over 5 years. These aren't just employees, they're part of my extended family. I see myself as a steward of this family and I'm deeply committed to building the
infrastructure and opportunity opportunity that would allow it to grow and thrive for decades to come. My biggest fear as an operator is not profits. My biggest fear is not providing the trajectory and the growth for my employees to grow. With this building, we'll be able to accomplish
that. Why Chelsea? Chelsea isn't just where we want to operate. It's where we want our it's where our people live. Over half of our staff live in Chelsea, East Boston, Everett, or Molden. Many of
them currently spend 90 minutes or more commuting each day. By moving to Justin Drive, we're dramatically improving the quality of life for our staff, which is our number one focus. From a logistics standpoint, Chelsea offers the benefit of access to the Tobin Bridge, Interstate 93, and the Ted Williams
Tunnel. It just makes sense for our team and for our business. The slide we have up here is the the current site at 100 Justin Drive. The total building at 100 Justin Drive is approximately 264,000 square ft. Boston Provisions will be
leasing roughly 80,000 square ft on the second floor west side of the facility closest to the marina. This is the current condition of 100 Justin Drive, a site that has been underutilized and in need of substantial reinvestment. What you're seeing here is
a starting point. Boston Provisions, in partnership with the building's owner, intends to invest nearly $15 million into interior renovations alone to create a modern, clean, and efficient food distribution facility. In addition, we're committing significant resources
to improving the exterior, including full regrading of the parking lot to ensure better drainage usability, along with extensive landscaping and beautifification efforts. Our goal is not just to occupy this space, but to elevate it. Turning what's currently a tired industrial site into a
well-maintained, professionally run facility that Chelsea and its neighboring residents can be proud of. These renderings show our vision for the space, a clean, thoughtfully designed facility that reflects the quality and professionalism of the brands it houses.
You'll notice clearly defined areas for employee parking, loading, and operations with improved circulation and aesthetics throughout the site. This facility is not about heavy manufacturing. As I mentioned, the space we're occupying is roughly 80,000 square
ft. Less than 25% of this space will be used for light fabrication. It's about efficient temperature controlled handling and distribution of premium food products. to walk you through those day-to-day operations and the best practices that
we follow to ensure food safety, cleanliness, and community impact. I'd like to now introduce Dimmitri Hazel of Boston Provisions. Dmitri previously led quality assurance for Mininoia tortilla chips, which I'm sure many of you have probably had, probably had some today.
He brings an extensive expertise in food safety systems, regulatory compliance, and operational excellence. His experience has been instrumental in shaping how this facility is being designed and will run from day one. Demetri I'd first like to say hello everyone.
Good evening. Happy to see you all. Your name just formally for the record give us your name. So to start, what's your name? Oh, I am Demetri. I am the VP of operations for Boston Provisions and I'm here to speak
more on my department as a whole for you. To begin this, I'd like to speak about our hours of operation. One of the core attributes of our hours of operation is that can't hear you. Really?
I'll get closer. One of the core aspects of our industry as a whole is that we start early, we end early, and it is the most efficient time to get any employee coming from any varying area in the surrounding area of Chelsea in our doors. Hours of operation
right now tend to go from 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. and then a second shift from 2:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. Please keep your comments to yourself until it's time to speak. Thank you. With this, the largest portion of all
our employees come in for the 6 a.m. shift and then it slowly dissipates as the day goes on. This is because mo the majority of our day is in the beginning where it is the most optimal time for as we all know chefs to get all of their produce, all of their product, all their
specialty goods, get it in the door and the ability to fabricate it so that all of us as people can enjoy it. With coming to Chelsea, we will be growing as a whole, bringing many new jobs and possibilities to the community as a
whole. And with that, these pre personnel percentage-wise will funnel in through these doors within these time frames. Good. Now, as for environmental mitigation, specifically odor control, one of the
glorious things about what we do as a whole, being a processor, not a manufacturer, is that we have to keep everything within regulatory compliance. with that with HASSIP, FISMA, the FDA,
and the USDA, we have strict guidelines to keep everything within the cold chain range of 32 to 38 degrees Fahrenheit. With that, odor is fairly completely mitigated almost because
as odor begins to go and aerosolize into the air, the temperature itself begins to restrict the actual particullet esters
to start to move about. So they kind of stay trapped within a completely insulated environment which our factory has to be to be compliant with all of these different regulatory agencies. Pest control
is even more heavily regulated. One of the great things that we want to bring into this facility is to become SQF certified. SQF is safe quality food. It funnels under the GFSI regulatory compliance which is
acknowledged all around the world. And with this all traps, bi-weekly reporting and all mitigation processes are put in place to ensure that we can keep that. SQF runs
on a grading system. The wonderful thing about that is if you ever go below a 65, which is a D-grade as we all know, you fail permanently and you can never be certified again. So food safety is taken very seriously in
our country and outside of it as well. And what we do best is we ensure the most quality of our product for the consumer on a daily basis. On top of that, as I mentioned before, because we have to keep the cold chain so heavily
restricted, we essentially create an environment where pests relatively never want to live in. They want to live in a nice warm environment where they have a lot of snacks, a lot of cushiony bedding. And unfortunately, well, I should say fortunately, we just
don't provide that for them. And being so inhospitable, we never really have to worry about that. Right now, our pest control is funneled through Eolab, which many of the restaurants that all of you go to also use. They use the same
chemicals. They use the same uh restrictive practices and Eolab gets us our bi-weekly reports and we have never had an instance up until this day. sewage and drainage
as per the FDA, the Massachusetts uh Board of Health and the Chelsea DPW standards. All of our drainage funnels through to the actual uh grease trap basin. It also
has to go through a treatment step because the wonderful thing that all of us love about the state of Massachusetts is all the precious coastline. And one of the great things about this location for us is that it's close to water. And with that, we have to be restricted to
these guidelines and ensure that all instances of whatever is produced in our factory stays within our factory. It is treated and before it goes out, it is filtered. one last time. And all of our personnel
are vigorously trained in their standard standard sanitation operating procedures, their HASSUP plans, and their training matrixes to ensure that these basins are cleared out on a daily basis to ensure that all of these
particullet never go out into the world. Diesel emissions Today, Wolf Fish only has 30% of their entire fleet as an actual diesel vehicle. With this, I myself go forward
to procure all of these vehicles and ensure that they are within the year range that requires us to put death fluid in them. This death fluid prevents to a certain percentage knocks fumes
which are the emissions that many people actually fear. That's only 30% of our current fleet today. And moving forward, we would like to try to mitigate as much as possible. That means that the rest of our vehicle fleet is actually the same
as your gasoline cars. Some of which are fleet Excuse me. While he's testifying, let's have a little decorum. It's his opportunity. I would ask him not to speak when you're speaking. So, I'm going to ask the same of you people. Thank you. Sorry to interrupt your flow. No, it's
fine. So transportation evaluation, our access and egress. Our access and egress are the same flow coming up partially from William Street and into our actual facility. As you can see, we
use a software system for our distribution company that is used all around the world by much bigger fleets than ours. And I use this to mitigate and direct traffic as I need. As you can see on the red, I have put it in that
all fleet drivers understand and acknowledge that they can never go on a right turn coming out of our facility onto commonant way. There's only one possible choice that they can make and there's only one possible way that they can go and that is shown by
the green line. Thanks. Thank you, Dmitri. Now, I'd like to invite Dale Rosinski to join us to talk about his studies done specific to the odor impacts of the 100 Justin Drive project.
Good evening. My name is Dale Rzinski. I'm a principal with Epsilon Associates. Uh I'm an air quality engineer, registered professional engineer, environmental engineering with 45 years experience. Um I visited the facility in in uh the
Boston waterfront. um about a month ago. Um I also uh visited Savinor uh Butchery in uh in Cambridge to observe the operations to assess the odors uh and uh the level of cleanliness and where odors
might be generated, how they might be emitted from the facility and how they might be dispersed into the neighborhood. And um what I found was a very clean operation. Um it's uh it stood out to me as just from walking
around the entire complex where there was you know several other similar types of pro fish processing that it it had the least odor of any of those that I observed and I believe that's the the reason is because of this very strict um attention to cleanliness
um the frequency of cleaning events trash removal um the icing and refrigeration practices that keep it the entire operation that's using doing fish processing uh at the temperature range that was mentioned. Um it's basically like being in a a
refrigerator. Um and and that goes all the way to the loading docks. So the entire stream of in and out goes uh through the loading docks. The loading docks have plastic sheeting on them to prevent air flow.
Um they pick up the uh bones and other byproducts every day. There's no fish guts or anything you might imagine. That's all done on the ships that come that comes in as a clean product uh of of fish meat. Basically, it's fish meat and skin with some bones.
And so really what they're doing is they're cutting that up. It's it's kind of like a butchery for fish, if you will. Um would would frankly uh you know, I I just I was actually very impressed with with how clean it was. Now, of course, the the reason that fish
will smell is if it's if it rots, right? If it decomposes, it will turn into organic compounds, organic sulfides and so forth that that are odorous. Everybody has smelled bad fish, right? Um and certainly the, you know, the
dumpsters, the trash area is is a critical area. They do use uh they use some carbon absorber pellets in those. And I came away saying, well, there is a possibility that some odor can come out through the trash room. So I I highly
recommended that they basically put in a system to ventilate the trash room internally through carbon absorption tanks, if you will, tanks full of activated carbon. The activated carbon from my experience in designing these for other facilities will completely
remove all the odor from that air that air inside the trash room. And and and and you can get these in 55gallon drums or car boy size. And you just have to, you know, through over time learn how often to replace them and replace them on a regular basis and it will it will
cut down the odor even more from what they're currently their current practice is. I believe with that with that measure um the only place I see odor actually being able to come out of the facility, next slide please, is through
the loading dock. So what happens is even though it's there's no ventilation from the facility um where you break that interface between the cool temperatures of 38 degrees say and the outside temperature if the outside temperature is greater than that when
you break that barrier inst you know when you're bringing in and out of that flap you do get a a little instantaneous puff where the hot air the cold air goes to the bottom and kind of spills out the bottom if you will, and the hot air
comes in from the top. And so there is a slight instantaneous exchange there. So what I then looked at is okay, well, what would happen to this odor? How would it get into community? And the way odor moves is pretty obvious. It's with
wind direction. It's it's where's the wind blow it? And fortunately, this is a very well-sighted facility from that respect because the part of the facility that will be using doing the fish processing and the loading docks is almost due north of the closest resident
residential building to the south of the facility on Admiral Hill at the base of Admiral Hill, which is about 400 feet away. Um, what I'm showing here is a wind rose from Logan Airport over five years. and
the wind blows from the north or within um 90° of north northn northeast north north north north north north north north north north north north north north north north north north north north northwest only 5% of the time so it's one of the least impactful wind directions in other words most 95% of
the time the wind's going to be blowing in other directions that are going to be away from the closest resident um from my experience with uh odor odor measurement odor dispersion etc My judgment is that that small amount of
occasional brief odor that might come out spill out the base of the loading dock um by the time it gets even in within that 5% of the time by the time it gets to the residences and the further away it would be diminished um
there should be very little odor. I mean there might be a brief and occasional whiff of odor but there's not going to be any you know there's not going to be a cloud of odor over the neighborhood. that's just not possible in this circumstance. I've worked on many different odor facil facilities that
have odor. Um, and you know, I I I actually can use my nose to tell about how much odor is in a facility that both the concentration and the quantity of odor that could be released is very small. Okay.
Um, the way I looked at this facility, to me it's, you know, when I go to the supermarket and I go to the fish counter at the supermarket, yeah, there's a little bit of fresh fish odor there at right at that counter. To me, this is no different. This is this is, you know, the same kind of operation. They're
doing the same kinds of uh cutting um and you know, and and then and it's not even, you know, sitting out very long. It's going into packaging. It's being it's under ice, which is it's not in the supermarket necessarily all the time. So there's not going to be any cooking or
baking or other processes that could cause odor. Next slide, please. In contrast, the facility that was here before, most recently, Signature Bread actually had an air permit from the mass D because it was emitting volatile
organic compounds from the bed break bread making process. Uh, which is also an odor. I mean, you know, bread bread has an odor. Um, It it's probably most people think it's a pleasant odor, but it is an odor. But it is a result of volatile organic compounds, which is a
precursor to ground level ozone, which is the what you breathe in the air, especially on hot summer days, and you know, exacerbates asthma, etc. So, ozone is a pretty nasty air pollutant. BLC is a precursor. They were allowed to emit
24 tons per year of volatile organic compounds by their air permit. It was uncontrolled. They just submitted it through stacks. This is to me this is much less of an impact than that was. Okay. They also had many more trucks and
they had heavyduty diesel tractor trailers um up to 12 trucks at like as early as 6:00 a.m. Eight during the day. 20 20 heavyduty diesel trucks a day. I'm guessing most of those were not
controlled. In other words, they weren't they were probably older trucks that didn't have the modern controls that were mentioned earlier. The the truck traffic from this is much is is much less um only 30% are diesel. All those diesel trucks as I understand
it have the latest EPA required controls which is the use of diesel exhaust fluid which is ura. It's an organic ammonia. Um, which you know any any place that sells diesel has a tank and you can go
up and put in your diesel deaf. Um, and what that does is that goes um into the exhaust and then there's a catalyst within the vehicle, a selective catalytic reduction catalyst, and actually takes that ammonia as a
reducing agent and converts the NO X to harmless nitrogen and water. So it essentially eliminates like 90% of the NOx emissions you would get from a diesel vehicle. So these are very clean vehicles. Um
from my I've I've modeled many many facilities like this over the years. This is a very small truck generator relative to many other facilities I've modeled. And I I'm confident that this would never exceed any national ambient
air quality standard. uh these are protective standards uh issued by EPA that protect everybody everybody whether you're you know um you know the to the um to children to people who have sicknesses etc they are designed to be
protected so the two pollutants that would be of concern from a diesel or NOX in particular matter the emissions from this are going to be tiny tiny comparing compared to the thousand trucks that are already operating in the area. I mean,
we're talking about less than a 2% increase in diesels that are well controlled. So, it it's really, you know, from an actual emissions standpoint, le much less than 1% increase. It's really insignificant.
Um, finally, with respect to noise, I know there've been concerns with noise. Um, same principle. If you if you add two noise sources together, same noise source. Okay. Um the result is you get a three decel
increase. The mass D um has a provision that says you can't increase noise from a new facility more than 10 dB above the existing ambient. This project would because of those thousand trucks that are already there
and all the other urban noises that you get in the region. You would not be able to perceive the increase from this. um these trucks, you know, they're smaller trucks. Um you're not going to notice them against the background that's already out there. Um that's the
way you perceive noise. You perceive it against the existing background. So if you live in a if you lived out in the middle of a rural area and it was extremely extremely quiet and you heard a truck go by, you might notice that more than in this area where there's many many trucks already. Um that's
that's how noise works. So, I really don't see how this would be a nuisance of any sort from either an air quality or a noise perspective. Thank you, Dale. I'd like to invite up Elizabeth Perth to talk about her evaluation of the
transportation and its impacts in the community. Thanks, Mike. Good evening. My name is Elizabeth Pier. I'm with Howard Stein Hudson. I'm an associate principal and a transportation engineer and I've been employed there
for over 20 years. Um, please keep the door open. Okay, thanks. Oh, all right. I'll try and speak louder over the vacuuming. Um, so we conducted a transportation evaluation of this site
and of the operations that you've already heard about tonight. This is a previously active site as Dale explained from a bakery operation. And what we do first is look at the existing transportation conditions in
the area. So what's up on the screen right now is a table that's showing the average daily traffic on the Beichum William Street corridor. Now, there's a lot of numbers on there and I'm not going to go over all of them, but I think the key takeaways are that
approximately 15,700 vehicles traverse the Bechum William Street corridor over the course of a weekday. Approximately 8.5% of those trips are trucks.
Um, and as you can see with that data, there's a slightly higher percent of traffic that's heading westbound um, Beum Street out towards Lower Broadway than is traveling eastbound. So, those are baseline numbers that we use in our
analysis. In addition to that, we also did, and I do not have a graphic showing this, we also did turning movement counts during the peak periods at the key intersection of William Street at Spruce Street at Common Way. So that we
understand what's happening there during the peak hours. And by peak hours, I mean the peak commuter hours. So the morning peak hour and the afternoon peak hour. So we know um all the vehicles the number of vehicles that are turning turning left turning right traveling
through the intersection and again that in addition to the ADT volumes that are up on the screen um provide us a baseline to then do future analysis of the project. The second table, and I'll get back to the traffic analysis in a moment, but
the second table on this um slide is showing the uh two key bus routes in the area, including the route 104 and the route 112. Um so these would be bus routes that our employees could use to
travel to and from work during the hours that the buses are operating. And I would say the route 104 is the really key route there because it operates um earlier in the morning and into late in the evening. Next slide please.
Thank you. Um so this table is showing the project generated trips over the course of a weekday from our facility. So as um has been explained um the operations will start earlier in the morning and um the peak is really early
in the morning and throughout the midday and then trickling off um through later in the afternoon and certainly much lower in the evening although there are a few vehicle trips then. So the this is showing the number of new trips. So
during those key peak hours of operation, the AM peak hour, we're anticipating an additional 17 vehicle trips into and out of the site. So a total of nine in
and eight out for a total of 17 trips. So that's a very low number of new trips during the morning peak hour. During the afternoon peak hour, which is that four to five commuter peak hour, we're anticipating that the site would generate a total of 37 new vehicle
trips, and that includes six entering and 31 exiting because that's the employee um shift exiting during the afternoon peak hour. So, a total of 37 trips. Next slide, please.
Um, so we take that information, we took that baseline traffic information and we ran an intersection capac capacity analysis of that key intersection of Williams at Spruce at Comedon Way. And we already know that um
the increase in volume from this project will be less than 2% during those peak hours. And given those numbers that I quoted you before, um the impact to that key intersection will be imperceptible
to people that are traveling through the intersection. So our conclusion is that the traffic impacts associated with this project are really imperceptible and can be considered very minor. Thank you.
Thank you, Elizabeth. I'd like to ask Alicia Lumea to join us. Hello, Alicia Lumia. I am the vice president of marketing and brand strategy for Boston Provisions. And you've heard tonight a lot about how we
operate, you know, our how our business is conducted in the most practical sense. And so I'd like to tell you about how we conduct business in more, you know, in an ethical sense in what drives us. As you've heard, part of our desire to move to this community is because
it's the community where so much of our team already lives. You know, we are committed to not just creating jobs, just to have any jobs, but to create jobs that are good, that have a trajectory, that allow people to advance in their lives, take care of their
families. One initiative that we've done since 2021 is offer English language classes to staff and those classes are free of charge and they are also on paid time. So you know we understand that many people are even juggling multiple jobs. They have multiple family
commitments. We make sure that they are both they are compensated for learning. They can keep taking that class as many times as they want. I know people have gone through several different rounds over the years. And so we've worked with JVS who provides the the teachers in the
curriculum. We provide the space and we provide you know the regular hourly wage of those employees as they pursue English since that's you know key to their ability to advance. We're also really committed to promoting from within. And so I mean currently we have
you know two department heads, four managers, two supervisors who started in entry level positions with the company and have been promoted up through the ranks. Um you know we like to make sure that everyone knows there's a real you know there's a culture of advancement and the fact that there are people you
know it might be their sup their boss or their boss's boss who started at the same place they are really you know send that message home more than we could just by saying that. um you can go to the next slide is that another thing that we're
committed to is really being part of our communities and being an active proactive, you know, agent of good in the communities where we are when we work. I mean, we're essentially an extension of the hospitality industry and hospitality is all about taking care
of people. It's by nature a very generous community. We end up involved in many many fundraisers through our customers all year long. And then we have our own initiatives as well that we pursue. And one program that we're involved in is a training and mentoring
for culinary careers. We work with an organization called Root, which is based out of Salem, and they work with underserved youth who are considering careers in culinary. Um, and so we've helped them with tours, with education,
with some of the, you know, some of the more specialty education that they wouldn't be able to receive within the confines of that program, seeing, you know, the more expensive cuts the product, the things that they would really encounter in a restaurant environment, so that they can go in confidently knowing that they know what
those products are and they have that kind of information. Um just a list here of local organizations that we've worked with just to give you an idea of the breadth and all of these are really uh organizations we've been active with in I'd say the last three years. One is
Boston Harbor Now. Uh we participate in their programming and their fundraising for programs they do with with local youth to make sure they can access the harbor islands. You know that we have these wonderful natural resources and they're not accessible to everyone. So, it's specifically for their fundraising
of their programs to help um youth groups access that and benefit from the natural environment here. Another is Mass Restaurants United, which is a hospitality based organization that we play a role in. I'm actually on their communications committee helping them
with technical assistance. That's a group that was started during the pandemic because so many res workers were immediately unemployed to help build resources, build community, help build restaurants to be stronger and more resilient parts of the economy. So,
you know, that's helping our industry and so many people who are working in that industry. Um another just to show Brett there's a consequences forum which is a actually a literary magazine that works with um Northeastern and is covers
the effects of conflict and has a lot of participation from veterans or people from war torn areas around the world and helps them explore those uh those issues. Greencrab.org or which is personal project of mine that I got us involved in and it's to combat the
invasive green crab which is really environmentally uh decimating our coastlines native shellfish populations. So we've given a lot of assistance in the community and working with that organization in particular to help popularize mentor people who want to be
part of that fishery and help create a sustainable solution for something that's doing a lot of environmental damage. Um, another related project is mass oyster project, which is trying to get shell recycling, more conservation in the harbor. We've sponsored youth
sports teams by buying their pennies, by helping them do, you know, their fundraising projects. Um, we've worked with numerous chef benefits, as I said before, for organizations like World Central Kitchen, which is feeding people
in disaster zones around the world. um different AAPI community building efforts such as Chinatown preservation or various you know it's with um with AAPI month every year there's usually restaurants are doing fundraising for various community groups Rodman for kids
Navy Seals Foundation which is benefiting veterans and veterans families and Dana Farber Cancer Institute and just so many more a continuous continuous thing um we're excited to be part of the community in
Chelsea. Uh we already were or helped support we got to be the transportation sponsors for the all-American city awards. So that was exciting to do our little our little piece of that. Congratulations to everybody who participated. Um and I think part of the winning that award is is one of the
things that attracts us to this community is coming up with really innovative solutions. I think you know we're interested in greening our immediate vicinity. As you saw the slides, you're familiar the Justin Drive site. It's it's currently a concrete wasteland. So, that can certainly, you
know, landscaping, more greenery that's going to help, you know, mitigate the heat. Um, really do some work to improve that both aesthetically and in the way that's going to carbon capture if we have more trees. Um,
bringing our expertise to Green Roots Community Education Programs. We've already met with them. I think they're doing really amazing work with their food justice programs. And so, you know, one of the aspects of that is they have a teaching kitchen helping people learn
to cook better, learn to use ingredients that maybe they're not familiar with or come up with substitutions. A huge percentage of the people who work at Boston Provisions have a culinary background. So, we have a lot of expertise to share. Many of us were chefs at one time or another. So I
that's a really easy way for us to lend expertise and help with their programs. Product donation for those programs. Currently they have no way except to have to purchase if they want meat or seafood. So we're able to help that way. Um you know and really looking to to see
how we can integrate with a community and provide you know provide more value even beyond you know beyond the jobs and the basic beautifification that we could do. I think that's it. Turn it back to Mike. Thank you, Alicia. So, that concludes
the formal presentation by Boston Provisions and and and let me be clear. I I am well aware that there's probably numerous questions that many people have. Our goal is to sit here as long as possible, be as transparent as possible, and answer those questions. I'm not
naive that this 10 to 15 minute presentation has quelled any individual's anxiety. We are here. we are good actors and we're prepared to as long as this takes. So with with that the the floor is back to the board. Thank you for the presentation. Just to
clarify when we open it up to the public it's not a back and forth dialogue. Okay? It's it's a they direct them up here and you know and and questions get answered sometime they get answered later. But I just don't want people to think that we're going to be having a an ongoing dialogue because we'd be here
until next week. So, um, thank you very much. And before I open it up to the public, I am going to open it up to the board to answer to ask any questions. And again, we're going to be hearing this, you know, we're going to be um seeing you again in August. You're going to be coming here in front of us in
August after you've gone to the planning board in two weeks. You'll be coming here in August. So, and and just as a little comment about the planning board, people who attend the planning board, we're a public hearing, which means we we are required to open it up for public participation. The planning board is a public meeting where people are entitled
to attend, but they are only entitled to speak at the allow if allowed by the chair. So I I said so there's a difference. I just want you to know. So if you if you intend to to go to the public meet at the public meeting on the planning board, you may I'm not sure they're going to open it up for public
comment. That would be their choice. Uh just for point of clarification, uh it is actually a public hearing because they have to do a major cycle when it's public hearing. Okay. Okay. General. Okay. Great. then you will have the chance to talk when it's your turn. When it's your turn. Um, is there anybody here who wants to speak before I
open it up to the public? Should we open it up? Okay. Again, people, three minutes. Um, and and if and if you're going to repeat what somebody in front of you just said, you can get your name and every time give your name and address. Just say, "I agree with what they said or I don't agree." What I mean, you you can you have you can use
the entire three minutes that you have, but if you don't need to, you don't need to. That's okay. And if and if again at the end of three minutes some something wasn't asked that you think is still important by somebody else here you can come up again and ask you know up to a minute. So I just want to make sure
people understand that I'm not trying to cut anything down. I'm just trying to make sure everybody has the chance to speak. And again, I'm going remind you this will not be the only opportunity to speak because we will be keeping the hearing opening referring you to the planning board and we'll be back here
next month or we'll be here when the planning board is finished. If the planning board and I say this usually the planning board is done in a month. If the planning board isn't because as John said they're doing a major site review, they may they might not we may not see the case until September, but we we don't know that. So right now we plan
on being back here in August, August 12th. So, we can start however. I mean, we can be random about it. We can start at one side of the room and come over. However, I'm not going to be too dictate that, but I just ask people to come or why don't you maybe if you want to speak, why don't you line up in the
middle and then you can come up and speak there. So, how does that work? Since you're standing and ready to go, why don't you come and make sure again name and address and into the microphone. Let me break the ice. into the microphone. So, I'm gonna be
first so I can get out as quickly as possible out of the microphone because I'm not great with public speaking. I'm sorry I have my back against you. Name and address. Splinter Axis Commandants Way 325 Commandants Way. Uh
if somebody has a TV monitor that we can donate uh to the municipality, it's going to be great so the public can see what uh the board is seeing. Thank you so much. Uh I want to compress 7 million thoughts into three minutes. So let me try to be very quick. And first of all I
just want to say I admire uh the desire of this business to come to uh Chelsea. The desire for prosperity uh while providing valuable products and services to the greater Boston area. I want to preface uh preface my remarks with uh much respect. I'm not against
any business moving in. uh if you want to open a coal plant or nuclear plant that's uh that's up to you. But I have a few issues with the parking lot. As you know, this parking lot uh is designated different zone. Uh and I think our building which is 325 commandance way is
a little bit too close. Um, so let me just show you very quickly because uh I don't know you see lines on the maps and you see schematics and you see the old building but I just wanted to say there is
another building that is right across from here. It's about 30 ft away from the parking lot. It's 200 ft uh itself. Home is a sanctuary where individuals and families can find comfort, rest, and sense of security. Uh, this is where we
live. Uh, this 150 apartments. And I'm just afraid the parking lot is a little bit too close for comfort. Uh, I wanted to talk about many different issues. I think the biggest one that people don't talk about is noise. Uh, this the distance to the building is 15 mters.
That that's literally this room is a little bit larger. So talking about noise just very quickly I wish I had a podium here. Uh the extreme proximity of the facility to the residential building poses moderate to severe risk to the
physical, mental, emotional, social, occupational and environmental well-being of residents. With a fleet of all these trucks moving and idling so many hours a day. Sometimes they say it's going to start at 4 in the morning. Now it's 6:00 in the morning. Maybe they plan for 24 hours. This morning I was
out at 8:00 in the morning. It's very quiet and very nice. I'm afraid the noise is going to cause a few issues because try uh track side link at 85 dibels. I don't want to get into details. Maybe I can provide some further information. The decibel level
is about 20 to 25 dibb over uh the noise generated by the engines, the exhaust system, the tire, pavement interactions. Uh this is on top of of course other noises, but this this neighborhood is
kind of uh providing us with all the necessities to create families and live a normal life. uh residents living within 400 ft of truck stops or truck routes, they report noise at ma as major nuisance. Uh the reflection between the buildings
I'm going to finish up very quickly. U I was just wanted to ask you raise your hand if you would like to have an idling truck 24 hours a day in front of your house and I'm going to make sure it happens so you can experience the noise. Thank you. And I'll continue the next time. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you.
Let's give him a chance to pick up stuff. Would you like if you want to leave anything with the board? Um, a part of that, you're welcome to do that. Thank you so much. Is that too high for you? A little bit. Pull it down. Everything is right. There you go.
I don't know. You can pick it up if it's easier for you. Yeah. B. There you go. Um, hello. My name is Suzanne Perry and I live at 160 Common Dance Way in Chelsea. And I want first of all to thank you for the opportunity to speak
to you tonight. Um, I have lived here for 25 years and for most of that time either Pillsbury or Signature Breads was part of um the entryway into our neighborhood. And um it wasn't the best.
However, I do have to admit that the smell of bread wins in a competition with the smell of fish. So, um I I am conscious of that. Uh so, instead of looking at a similar company or maybe an improvement, we're
looking at a Boston Provisions, which I know is a superb company. I don't think I think all the things we heard tonight with some exceptions surrounding noise and odor. Um I would 100% agree with uh
it's a fine company and all their rules and regulations I'm sure are up to date, but that's not my concern. The question is does this business belong in a residential neighborhood? And that is my question. Um the frankly the smell of
raw fish permeates the place where they're now. I've been out to Wolves Seafood a couple of times. It's on a fish pier. I know that Wolves is moving because the Boston Seapport area is very uh the property there is becoming very
dear and I'm sure there's also the need to um they want to expand their business and so forth. But um nevertheless there are other fish processing plants there and the smell of raw fish is prevalent. Um so
as we've already spoken common way and William Street is already very dense area with trucks and so forth and even though most of them will know not go down our res the rest of our residential street common dance way be will be affected. Finally there is a slippery slope to consider.
Boston provisions will house will use only one quarter of the space. If you look at the blueprints that are provided, you will see they will use only one quarter of the space. Um my question is what are the other threequarters of the space going to be
used for? Once this place is gotten a special permit to be used for seafood, our business is going to move in there. Our office is going to move in there. I highly doubt it. Probably a lot of the neighbors of Wolf's Fish currently are
going to be looking for a better place to expand or work their businesses. It only makes sense that this is a slippery slope. And um I finally think that Chelsea is moving in the wrong direction with this endeavor. Ever is uh putting
up housing handover fist on Second Street in some horrible areas. Um there are so many things, so much building and so much improvement going on. Chelsea itself is a place looking to improve, looking to be better. I just don't see
that a fish prop processing uh area or fish plant or fish business or or however you want to describe it um is a boon or a help to Chelsea. Also, it's important to note that the parking
spaces in the blueprints go from 277 to 477. Thank you. Thank you. That's that'll be my signal when when it's the three minutes. I'll go like that so you'll know. I'm not I don't
want to be rude and try to interrupt you, but that will mean wrap it up. seems like I think this is good, you know, and and and I and I first of all, I should um shame on me for not asking. I know we have two city councilors here. Would you either of you like to speak
for like No. Okay. I just want to make sure Okay. Thank Thank you. Hi. Thank you. Good evening everyone. Um your name and address please. Marches Aon 325 Command Way.
So I want to start by saying that my grandfather used to say if you want things to last you take care of them. It's true for things for people for neighborhoods and for Chelsea. We're not just talking about the parking lot. We're talking about taking care of our
community and making sure it lasts for the next generation. We're talking about our homes, our own and our loved ones health and the soul of Chelsea. We have been through a lot. We have been through fires, pollution, floods. We're tough, but we're not invincible. Just
last week, Chelsea was named 2025 all-America city. That's a big deal. It means we're recognized for our spirit, for our resilience, for our ability to come together as a community because we're fighters. We've rebuilt after fires, rallied for clean air, and stood
tall as an environmental justice community. A title we earned by surviving decades of pollution. But let's be real, that title isn't a trophy. It's a warning sign. That's not a badge we wear with pride. It means we
already face more than our fair share of pollution, health risks, and industrial burdens. Our people deserve clean air. Our families deserve quiet nights, not the hum of industrial refrigeration or the roar of trucks at all hours. Now they're
telling us, "Don't worry, this isn't the fish factory. It's a tiny part of a big shiny food plant. State-of-the-art. No smells, just a few more trucks that you won't even notice." Well, this resoning is just piling more weight on Chelsea's shoulders. It's
putting industrial activity right next to our homes, ignoring the buffer zones that are supposed to protect us. It's risking our already strained sewage system and threatening the island and river, which is already vulnerable to
pollution. It violates every buffer zone and ignores the 55 decibel noise limit that keeps our nights quiet. My grandfather also said, "Fairness isn't complicated. You don't stack weights on a bent back. And Chelsea's
back is already bent. We are 2.4 square miles of resilience. But we're not a dumping ground. Ending industrial runoff to our overloaded sewage system, risking island and river with more pollution. That's not just a fair. It's cruel.
We're not against progress. Progress. We're not against jobs. But we are for fairness. We are for protecting our community from more harm. Chelsea has worked too hard, fought too long, and come too far to let this happen.
So, honorable committee members, I'm asking you, let's honor Chelsea's fight. Let's honor that all America see this spirit. Let's reject this resoning because let's be real. The last thing Chelsea needs is more opportunities for
industrial noise and pollution. Yes, let's build playgrounds, not pollution factories. Some cho choices aren't just unwise, they are unchel. And if we wanted to live next to a factory, we would have picked another
city. But we love it here. Thank you. Thank you. Hi everyone. Is it okay to go? Okay. Hi, I'm Mara Graham and I am here representing Chelsea Jewish Life Care. We're at 165
Captain's Row and I just want to introduce Donna Picarello who's a resident um who wants to speak to some of the concerns we have. I want to turn Good evening. Good evening. You are all told who I am. Um, I'm known by most
police officers because I will this chair all around Chelsea and no place in between. I have a few questions that are burning.
that bother me a lot. One, no one has mentioned the children that take a bus one stop away from your proposed entrance.
Elementary school children, many of them get off the bus alone. It would only take one child to make a wrongway turn and wind up in one of I don't know what size your trucks are,
but someone discussed odor and pollution. Do we need any more of that? The answer is a clear no. Admiral's Hill has become a beautiful
property. If any of you have been down there, the residents, the owners, they take great care in the property, in the vegetation,
in the play areas. is a huge playground right down the street from where you propose to put Boston provisions. It concerns me very and I don't have small children anymore but I see them
running off the bus crossing the street and their mothers are casually walking over from the apartments across from Boston provisions. I live very close to Boston Provisions
and I walk I well figuratively walk. I wheel my chair if you want to put it that way outside every day unless it rains or snows.
So, I'm a very likely candidate to get whacked by one of your trucks. And I got this pink chair on purpose. I wanted to be seen. I wanted I wanted wanted to manage myself in a way that I
could freely go from the property down to the stores um roam eat many things I do down there and I don't come back until after four this 6 to2
hour think about it the kids are getting ready to board the bus. That doesn't seem quite equitable. Did you have something to say? I'm reminding you you had three minutes.
What? I'm reminding you you had three minutes and you've reached your three minutes. Oh, warn me when I have one and I'll speed up. You You have zero. So, you're all set. But I'll give you another 30 seconds. Go ahead and finish your thoughts.
My thought is the trucks, the pollution going and coming from I have to go by Justin's way every time I leave the property. Every single time. So there's
no way out other way. The only way is down the street from Justin's Way. And if you're telling me, if I heard correctly, 37 trucks are going to come up and down there,
that's a lot of activity for what has become a very quiet area. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Whoever said that and and why I I appreci what I would ask people do is hold their applause until
the end and everybody's had a chance to speak. So, um that we can keep things moving along. And I'm not saying you can't apply. Just wait till everybody's spoken. Thank you, sir. Please introduce yourself. Name and address. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Uh my name is Eddie Gaffne. I live at
100 Commons Way. I've lived in Chelsea for over 20 years. I'd like to thank the board members as well as John Deere and the less of the city council members here or the the city members for volunteering um and doing this really important job of continuing to make Chelsea a bright future through zoning.
Um Chelsea is very lucky to have Mariel Mali Park State Park in the Mystic River which everyone is to enjoy. People from all over the state come to relax and enjoy this this beauty. Um and almost everyone that we spoke with agrees that was in the park that day, you know, throughout the last couple weeks,
whether Winthrup, Everett, other towns, everybody agrees that this industry is not the right location for the beginning of Mario Valley Park. It kind of goes against the award you guys got of being an all-American city. I mean, you have this beautiful park and now you have a a
a seafood and meat uh processing plant there, which again, there's going to be smells from the seafood leaking out of trash trucks or if a truck comes in broken. I mean, everybody knows seafood smells, but also he said most of it's going to be meat smells. I mean, there's going to be, you know, rotten chicken
and and fish that smells. Um, real real quick point on the smells. There was also an incident at the Chelsea Yach Club not too long ago where a dock got hit. They had take out the dock and they had to do some quick renovation. They scraped off some muscles for about a day. They washed it all off. It smelt
like dead fish for about a week and a half. I'm sure the city got complaints. Everybody couldn't figure out where it was coming from. They had to come and get professionally cleaned the concrete to get rid of the smell. So, I just wanted to add that about fish smells. Um, and also too, we have no issue with um
the seafood and meat processing plant coming to Chelsea. We just don't think this is the right location. Um the building was built in 1968 and it is on two um divided lots. As John uh said, we agree with the Chelsea Department of Planning uh and Development and uh Mike
Ectier from the Chelsea Building Department that wrote on April 1st this year recommends that this application get denied because it's not allowed in this uh zoning district. you have to allow uh extended the use into the naval um naval hospital district commercial
district which is not allowed. Um I explored other real quick sorry um I'm guessing you don't want to make this a precedence with a newly established ch uh seafood processing law which was um you guys granted the permission right before
Christmas of last year 2024. I don't think you want to make this precedence be the one that everybody else uh uses going forward when they seek special approval, special permit approvals. Um I I explored other industrial areas in Chelsea and there are plenty of newly
renovated warehouses along Marginal Street and Eastern Avenue which are looking for tenants. Uh these areas are are best suited for this industry because it currently allows for seafood processing in all four districts. the the newly district industrial district,
the um port district, the waterfront district, and the waterfront upland district. They all allow seafood processing um in this um with a special permit. I'll be real quick. In addition, so I think this area is much better for the location and it's it's um zoning
approved. In addition to the large turnout here tonight, we have an online petition with roughly 400 signatures um that are against this um facility going into this location. Real quick, um also too, I w we walked around and the commercial properties and mo majority of
the people did not know about this project and are against it. Um thank you. Thank you. Thank you. In summary, Yep. Okay, finish it up. Okay. In summary, there's a strong public agreement that is not favorable for this neighborhood and in front of Mariel Mali Park and most concurrently the zoning
does not allow for it um in the Naval Hospital District. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. I said don't do it. Hi, my name is Trisha Brown. I live at 40 uh 74 Captain's Row. Thank you members of the board and Would you speak up just a
little bit? Sure. Thank you members of the board and fellow residents for the opportunity to speak today. We're not here to oppose progress, but to defend the integrity and well-being of our community. While we acknowledge the present presentation given by Wolf Foods and their their consultants, we have
several critical concerns that remain inadequately addressed. These concerns are rooted in public health, environmental sustainability, zoning alignment, and overall community impact. Public health and air quality risks h are a big deal in Chelsea. And every day
when I walk out my door, we're faced with pollution all the time. We have the Tobin Bridge, we have the gas, you know, the diesel trucks. It's really tough. And Wolf claims their operations will take place with an insulated environment
and that their facilities will completely mitigate environmental impact. However, even their own e experts acknowledge the smells will emanate from the loading docks and active carbon drums are being proposed to manage odor. An admission that odor
control will be reactive, not preventative. Further, that 30% diesel fleets pose a serious risk emissions, especially for the already overburdened area. Deaf fluid usage may meet standards, but that doesn't eliminate
the cumulative impact on the community already facing disproportionate pollution levels. The assertion that this facility will less impact will be less impact than the bread plant is not a justification. It is a minimization of
our community's legitimate concerns. Noise and traffic impact is a serious concern for all of us. Wolf downplays their noise footprint, citing three decibb difference and suggested that the activity will barely be noticeable. But
decibel scales are logarithmic, not linear. So even a small increase can double the noise impact in the real world conditions traffic-wise. They referenced a mere 2% increase. Yet, that falls into account for the cumulative traffic from
trucks funneling in and out between 6 and 10, including peak morning hours when personal delivery trucks and logistic vehicles will overlap with school and commuter traffic. William Street is already under pressure. Adding to it, even slightly without clear
long-term mitigation or enforcement will compromise pedestrian safety, especially near parks and residential zones, and most importantly, our kids. They claim that using software to direct traffic is speculative and not enforceable. There's no binding commitment that prevents
trucks from entering prohibited zones like comedon's way. Zoning and comm community compatibility. This area sits adjacent to Naval O the hospital and Mariel Mali Park. Two place two spaces meant to promote health and
community cohesion. Placing a fish butchery butchery and meat processing plant, no matter how modern, so close to recreation and residential areas, violates the spirit of local zoning laws and undermines the community's ability
to breathe clean air and enjoy quiet green spaces. I I would hope that you would consider this that this is, you know, it's beyond something that, you know, we We can do
better. We can do better. Thank you. [Applause] You know, I had a bunch of kids in here once and I asked them to not not applaud after everybody spoke so that everybody would have the chance to talk and they were really good about it. So, good
evening. Thank you very much for being here and allowing us to come and share our thoughts with you. My name is Marlene Jennings. I live at 33 Breakwater Drive. My husband Jerry and I have lived here happily for 26 years. We are vested in the community. Uh I have
served on the c cultural council for 10 years. Served on two separate boards for the Salvation Army. Uh we support St. Luke's Church and we al I also serve as on the board for the Friends of Mary Park. We love our city. We love the diversity. We love everything about it.
What we've seen in the last 26 years is a big change. And it's been a great change. It's cleaner. It's more quiet. The air is fresher. It's more beautiful. People take care of their property, not just on Admirals Hill, but in many of
the beautiful neighborhoods in Chelsea. I'm very disappointed that uh people didn't consider the wisdom of the people whose shoulders we stand on who made the zoning originally in that area. I don't
understand why they thought it was a good idea to change that zoning. The zoning was there put there for a reason that there wouldn't be anything that would had a horrible smell. Let's face it, we have our share of horrible smells here in Chelsea,
the airport, what's coming over from Everett. I mean, it's, you know, we've lived with this for a long time and it's better and let's keep moving forward. Uh, we don't want this facility here. We think it's a great company. It's a wonderful company.
It would be great. It's just not right for this location. It's just not right with all the all the new things that are going on in Everett with the soccer stadium coming in. If you drive down Bechum Street, all those old tanks are
coming down. All that old electricity equipment is coming down. We can do better, something that is better suited for Chelsea. You know, don't sell out for 150 to 200 jobs. We can do better.
And I know I can't ask a question, but I'm going to leave you with this. So, there's what 60 trucks that are going to be coming in on a co course of a day. The noise level, do those trucks beep every time they back into a loading dock?
Okay, thank you very much everybody. Thank you. Hi. Uh, my name is Wenda Coachinowski and I live at Can you want to bring it down? Is it hard? You can pick it up. I'll just hold it maybe. Yeah, that might be easier. Is that good? That's better for you. It's probably easier for
you. All right. Uh, my name is Wenda Cochenowski. I live at 221 Sheriff Street. And I'm probably going to be reiterating some things that other people have said, but um you know, Chelsea, as everyone knows, is about two and a half square miles. We're
the fourth most populated city in the state. Um and we've really I've lived in Chelsea for it'll be 20 years next year. Um and you know, we've really shouldered the burden of a lot of
industrialization for our area. Um, we're two and a half square miles and we have a giant salt pile. We are under the airport. We've already got a meat processing plant with the Cayenne plant. Um, we've got an Amazon warehouse on our
border with Everett. There's soon to be a soccer stadium there. There are uh housing projects uh high income housing projects on steroids on our Everett border. And just getting through Chelsea on a,
you know, on day every day is a struggle. The streets are parking lots. They're filled with trucks. They're filled with moving trucks from uh movers that are on our border. Um there's the produce section of Chelsea.
Um and I guess I'm asking just that you reach for something better for the city than more industrialization. I just think uh we we have enough and I think maybe more green spaces, maybe
other amenities that can make this a a healthier, better place for the people who are here. Um and I guess that's my request. Thank you. Why don't you keep it down? Just hand it to the person next to you. It would be easier. Can we lower it? I can't hold it. Oh, okay. Okay.
Same time. Hi, my name is Carol Resnik and I've lived at 68 Captain's Row Rear for about 30 years. I've lived in Chelsea for about 40 years. I taught here for about 30 years. So, I see some of my students running around. But I'm going to ask a
few questions. And I can't see behind me, so I'll trust that they will tell me if hands go up. So I want to ask I want you to rate and you can talk here but we're not gonna we're not having a dialogue. Just share share. No no no
it's rhetorical. Okay. Okay. I'm an English teacher. All right. Raise your hand if you think it's a good idea to have a dead meat processing plant in the middle of a residential city.
Any hands? No. Okay. Raise your hand if you think it's a good idea to have a dead animal processing plant, which will prohibit the elderly and severely disabled from stepping out their front door for a breath of fresh air and a
little bit of peace. Any hands? Let's Let's just ask the Why don't you just ask the questions rather than any hands? We'll we'll we'll assume it's rhetorical as you said, okay? So, you need not ask. Okay, there you go. All right. Raise your hand if you think it's a good idea to have a dead animal
processing plant in a city that already has 350 trucks going down William Street every day. And it's more than that, I know. Um, with paint, lead paint falling from the bridge and planes going over our heads. Do you think that this is a
good idea? Raise your hand. Raise your hand if you think it's a good idea to have a dead animal processing plant where children at the nearby school along with adults have life-threatening fish allergies.
It certainly can't be the jobs which will be lowpaying and dignity stripping. Don't we think more of our people in our city than to destroy the only place in Chelsea where everybody can come to and get a breath of fresh air and experience
some peace. I appreciate you guys coming here and listening and I think it's very important for the whole city to have a place that they can come to. I walk Admiral's Hill. I walk the Mario Valley Mali Park every day and it's people who
are joyfully experiencing fresh air and and the water. So, I would hope that the zoning board would stay straight and like somebody else said, keep it the way it is and not split it. It's a residential area. Thank you.
Thank you. Hi, my name is Donna Dressenni. I've live over 100 captains row. I've been a resident of Chelsea for over 30 years and I think I bring a real different perspective to what I'm going to say than everybody in this room, unless there's someone else. I personally
worked for decades in the perishable food industry. I worked for native poultry across the street from this facility. I worked for meat packing processing and finally owned my own seafood processing and manufacturing and distribution center on the Fisp Pier in
Boston. I will guarantee you as wonderful as this company sounds it is no different from what we all did. We were all hassip inspected. We all followed regulations. We were all immaculate. Okay? I've been in hundreds of some of the multi-million dollar
companies to the smallest ones. There is absolutely no way to get rid of this odor. Okay? I worked on my shipping floor. Okay? I worked and skinned fish. I watched gur go out the door. I I let people back trucks in at four o'clock in
the morning from Canada. I will tell you, you will never never keep this odor down, okay? Because of the gurry, because of the dumpsters and the refrigerated trucks drip and drip and drip and drip wherever they go. That's
the nature of what they do. If you go down the fish pair, which is highly highly inspected on when they are closed and walk around there, it will take your breath away. When I worked at Native Poultry, okay, spotless clean, spotlessly clean, supplied all the
supermarkets in the area. When it was closed on the weekend, you could smell it a block away. You you will it will be permeate everything on the outside of this building. And that is what I want to tell everybody is that is the reality of this business. You know, a lot of
people said, "How could you stand it?" Well, to me, it smelled like money, but to other people, it's not for everybody and you can walk in a fish plant and just go pick up an order and you can smell it on your clothes. Somebody will say, "Woo, you stink." I worked at
companies that were multigenerational, that were famous nationwide. My company sent fish to the White House and fish all over the United States and we were fantastic and immaculate. I've cleaned my own shipping and processing floors.
There is no way you will stop this odor and I don't want to criticize their their efforts of this company. We all do it. We all do it. Maybe some better than others, but the bottom line is it can be only mitigated. It cannot be removed.
And I just don't think it's a fit for such a beautiful residential area. I think there are higher I am now a realtor, so I can say I think there are much higher and better uses for that facility and that area. Maybe something with condos above it and some stores
underneath it or something in line with what you see going on in Wellington or, you know, over in Somerville, but certainly not to bring food processing. There's a reason that these food processing facilities are stuck out in areas all by themselves. And with that,
I'll leave you and hope that people will take what I said into consideration because I have firsthand knowledge and spent decades in the industry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh I'm Osam Yum. I'm at 160 Command Danceway and I just
want to say that I recognize new business is important, new jobs important uh but it's essential that they are situated at uh right location. I think uh common dance way uh Admiral's Hill neighborhood is one of the few
quiet and well-maintained areas in Chelsea. I think it if it's going to improve any area as they are presenting as if it's the loveliest thing it should be located somewhere it needs improvement because definitely Admiral's
Hill does not need this kind of improvement it's not going to improve Admiral's Hill it's not going to add anything to Admiral's Hill instead it's going to create create unpleasant orders increase traffic noise pollution and general al
decline of the quality of life for the residents. In addition to that, I I'm afraid that my property values will decline too. Who would want to buy a house with smell stinky area? No one.
This would be a step backwards for our neighborhood and it should be stated properly. It's it's it has no place in our neighborhood. Thank you. Thank you. [Applause]
Good evening, Elizabeth Tusen from 160 Common Downway. I just want to support any comments about the smell and dispel any doubts about it. And toward that end, I
visited Wolf when the company first spoke to us over a Zoom call in April. We drove there a few days later, walked around. Well, no. Lowered the windows of the car
and the fish smell came right in. Drove around the back, the side, the front, especially in the back. Very strong smell. again this past Sunday, June 29th, walking around Seapport.
It's closed all neat and clean and tidy all around Wolf Fish Plant. Very strong smell. Please do not doubt for one moment that there is a strong fish smell. Open, closed, clean, or not
clean, it's there. Thank you very much. Thank you. Hi, Carlos Verrier. Uh 60 comedant way. Um here also um on behalf of team trust which is owns 50 and 70. So um I'm just
here to support what everybody has already eloquently said. I don't think I have a lot to add other than just uh providing our support. Uh my father happened to have been the architect for Admirals Hill, Robert Verrier, many
years ago. And I think that in in the spirit of being doing things to support change, it's important that we think about doing them in a constructive way, not a destructive way. And I think that the residents have all been very eloquent that they believe that this is
going to be destructive towards the environment and not constructive. There has to be other businesses and other ways to develop this property that fit into the zoning already and can be just a positive, not a negative on the environment in the neighborhood. Thank
you. Thank you. Good evening. Um I am resident of Chelsea. H sorry my name is Alexandro. I am employed at Wfish. I want to say uh this company
sorry I am nervous. This company opportunity for our community. And um I am also grateful for the this company this company investing in my English in
my English education. I am started in the company in packing product and one year I am promotive and supervisor for the selfie
room. I think so. Wolffish need a opportunity for the sorry for the show the different thank
you thank you that's right Hi Jean Higgins 100 boats Wayne's way um one of the gentlemen Jean pull it down just a little bit please the other the top Jane Higgins, 100 boats way. One of the
gentlemen had mentioned um that he had strongly encouraged some kind of equipment that would mitigate the odors and so forth. Well, strongly encouraging is not the same thing as mandating or requiring. Second point, Pillsbury, who had the
signature plant before uh Signature, has state-of-the-art oxidizing oxidizing equipment that mitigates VOCC's. If anybody has any information to the contrary, I'd like to hear it because Pillsbury is a pretty big company. Third of all, uh,
as of today, uh, several towns close to us, Danvers, Lynfield, Sagas, had their trash collectors go on strike. Rhetorical question, can you imagine 97 degrees heat index today? Can you imagine if that company that is
proposing to come in, had their trash workers go on strike, you know, the vermin alone and the odors wouldn't be great. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Jerry Jennings
and I live at 33 Brickwater Drive in Chelsea. You're the tall one. You need it up there. Okay. Uh I'm Jerry Jennings. I'm a resident of Admiral Hill. I live at 33 Breakwater Drive in Chelsea and I've lived here for 26 years. So with my wife
are quite invested with this community. To that extent I've served as a member of the board of trustees of several associations on Admirals Hill and I'm speaking you uh to you tonight as a director of the Admiral Hills Owners Association.
The AHOA as we call ourselves is con is concerned about the impact of the proposed fish plant on the common roadways on Admiral's Hill. I'd like to remind the board that the AHOA pays for all the maintenance of these common
roadways which include snow clearing and more expensively road resurfacing. The AHOA itself is funded by the residents of Admiral's Hill. The proposed fish plant intends to use
comedant's way from the intersection of Justin Drive to William Street and that is one of the common roadways under the aegis of the AHOA. This will obviously result in much greater wear and tear on the road. maintenance will
dramatically increase and therefore the cost which is solely borne by the association with no contribution from the city or the property owner. Secondly, the HOA is also concerned for the safety of the pedestrians as you've
already heard tonight in this densely populated residential neighborhood due to the heavy trucking resulting from this plant. Third, the HOA is concerned about the noise and toxic fumes from refrigerated trucks potentially running 24 hours per
day. It's of particular concern given the proximity of Fairfield Axes. And I'd like to really point out the highly respected and worldrenowned Chelsea Jewish Nursing Home Complex. I'd like to point out this facility is known
around the world for its extremely innovative care for the devastating folks for the folks that suffer the devastating disease of ALS. It is to them a sanctuary and to be out in the
outdoors in this neighborhood is a matter of their quality of life. The HOA strongly urges the zoning board to maintain the longstanding zoning of this area which prohibits fish processing. Thank
you. Thank you. Hi uh Terry Widner 100 captains row 26 years here. Uh first I would like to do what somebody earlier did was to congratulate the city and its residents uh have having just been named an
all-American city and and I will quote this there's a purpose to it. Quote Chelsea is a national model for engaging residents, business and government stakeholders in the pursuit of environmental goals.
their efforts are creating lasting impacts that reduce and mitigate effects of climate change while bolstering residents well-being. End quote. That's why we're all here tonight, to continue to doing just the type of
collective discussion and decision- making that we are trying to do tonight. To that end, I'd like to mention a topic that I only heard brought up once tonight. I of course agree with everything that's uh been said before me, but this is the potential for
medical and physical health issues with respect to people living with allergic reactions from uh small to life-threatening uh events. I'm speaking for myself and for all
and all who will be affected uh by airborne particles containing not just repellent odors but allergens for those of us who have a life-threatening allergy to seafood. Whatever ventilation uh and purifiers
are used to dissipate odor are blowing deadly pollutants into the air. If you can smell it, you are inhaling it. everyone is. Please do not endanger our citizens and city for little return on your investment of tax cuts or the
promise of not very many new jobs. As we understand it, Chelsea residents uh already work in the South Station uh South Boston plant and will probably retain their jobs here in Chelsea, which in the aggregate means there may not be
many new jobs. Visits to the South Boston plant, as has been brought up, after business hours have been uh shown a clean and tidy external operation. However, the smell is horrific, overwhelming, nauseious,
and affects a considerable area. Remember, if you can smell it, you are being affected. We do live in a windy city. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Uh my name is uh way you tapawa.
Uh I live at uh 53 breakwater drive in Chelsea. Uh my grandmother often remind me that a cow does not know the use of its tail until mosquito
season. The se the city of Chelsea does not have to wait for mosquito season to know the value of our neighborhood to the value of Chelsea.
When people ask me where are you from? I said, "I'm from Chelsea, soon to be reszoned West Boston, because there's where we have the FBI headquarters." And you travel north and you hit the marina and you go a bit
farther and you come to this beautiful little enclave called Admiral's Hill. And I I'm appealing to all those who are vested with the power to make decisions uh to make those decisions wisely.
My grandmother also used to say to us, "A stone that is at the bottom of a river has no idea how hot the sun is at the top." We are from that neighborhood. We are not the stone at the bottom of
the river. We know what impact having a fish factory, a fish processing plant would have on the value of Chelsea, not the value of Admiral Zel, the value of Chelsea,
right? And that's because of where it's it is proposed uh to be located. So I I leave you by saying let's re have Chelsea reszone West Boston. Thank you.
Thank you. [Applause] Hello. Thank you for being here tonight. Everybody here, I am so blown away with the information. Ma'am, ma'am, sorry. Say it again. I am so amazed at the level of detail
and research that has gone on tonight. Did you give your name and address? Oh, Jane Emerson, 50 Boat Swaines Way. I've been here for 32 years and Chelsea is unbelievable. It's gorgeous and I don't think that this is the right thing for the city. I just want you to embrace
everything and all the research that has been done tonight by these people here tonight. I'm just blown away by it. So please keep that in mind and just imagine if that were your house sitting on the hill and you were bringing in this facility and you were looking at the potential for those odors what the
impact would be to your quality of living and the quality of what you're invested in for most of your life and I plan to be here for a very long time. So that's 32-year resident and I'm just asking you to please please please listen to all of the information you had tonight because it's truly amazing.
Thank you. Thank you. My name is Nicholas Gregori and I've proudly called 65 Breakwater Drive and Chelsea home for the last three and a half years. I chose this city because I
believed in its future, a high quality of life, safe public spaces, and long-term economic growth. Boston Provisions LLC or BP promises 150 jobs and tax revenue,
but that's a shortterm gain hiding a long-term problem. If allowed to proceed, BP will spill foul odors, pollutants, and negative consequences that will disrupt, dismantle, and devastate Chelsea's
quality of life, public spaces, and long-term economic growth. First, BP will spill into our quality of life. The hill and surrounding areas are clean, quiet, and walkable. The air is
fresh. Neighbors stroll with kids and dogs enjoying peaceful, healthy atmosphere. But fish and meat processing facilities are known to emit strong, foul odors and attract vermin. And the meat processing industry is fraught with
human rights violations. In New Bedford, seafood plants triggered so many PL complaints that the board of health launched an investigation and found high levels of trimethylamine, a compound that smells like rotting fish
but isn't. It's toxic. In Gloucester, National Fish and Seafood was cited for odor violations by Mass D. An investigation conducted by Human Rights Watch found rampant mistreatment of workers in harsh conditions at
reputable industry giants like Smithfield Foods. And I checked their website. Smithfield Foods offers a very similar benefits package to his employees as BP. If this project is approved, make no mistake, our daily lives will change.
Our peace and comfort will not be preserved. BP's actions will disrupt, dismantle, and devastate our quality of life. Second, BP will spill into our public spaces. Mario Mali State Park is one of
Chelsea's greatest assets used by families, Excel Academy students, and people from across the city. They come for clean air, green space, and a sense of safety. But fish processing facilities produce airborne pollutants
and offensive odors that spread beyond their walls. The very presence of this kind of operation near the park undermines everything it represents. What is now a safe, vibrant space for recreation and education will no longer
be the same. BP's actions will disrupt, dismantle, and devastate our public spaces. Third, BP will spill into Chelsea's long-term economic future. Chelsea is moving forward. We see it in the
renovating park, the upcoming soccer stadium, and new developments. But that progress is fragile. Developers will not invest next to a facility known for noxious odors, air pollution, and pest problems. Projects that elevate Chelsea may walk away. This is a moment of of
decision for what kind of city we want to be. BP's actions will disrupt, dismantle, and devastate our long-term economic growth. So, I ask, do we want a Chelsea that smells like opportunity, or do we want a Chelsea that smells like
fish? Please don't let BP spill on the hill. Protect our quality of life, our public spaces, and our economic future. Say no to this proposal and say yes to the Chelsea that we believe in. Thank you. Thank you.
Is there any is is there anyone else who hasn't spoken who wishes to speak? You have one minute. One minute. I told you if you came up again. You already know my name. Uh I represent
Saying Bardov 325 Commandance Way. I live in a building with 150 apartments and um and my wife are the only people representing. So I feel like I need a few more minutes because this is the major building that's exactly right there. Unfortunately, I have one minute
only. Chelsea Palante was next meeting. Thank you. I will. Uh Chelsea Palante happened a few months ago. We went to the park. All the kids and all of us wrote little notes and we were talking about what do you need to stay and drive in Chelsea? What do you want the city to look like for your kids? And nobody
wrote I want an industry that will bring unbearable and hazardous conditions in Chelsea. The next step is not only uh not accepting these projects, we're going to file a motion to just completely get rid of any industrial zone south of Beach and Street. I wanted
to talk about the sleep deprivation, cognitive impairment, reduced creativity and innovation, emotional instability, increased workforce errors and accidents, decline in motivation, absentism and financial losses, career impact, vicious cycles of overwork. We're going to have to leave our
building. We rent there. We created amazing uh relationships with our neighbors. They're leaving already. We are going to have to leave because it's going to be unbearable to wake up to these noises. We're going to lose our jobs and we're going to have to start over uh one more time somewhere else.
And I'm getting sick of being an immigrant and moving from place to place and finding a new home all the time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [Applause] Yeah. If there's something that you want to if there's something that you want to submit to the board, as I said earlier,
if you have this stuff written down and you want it to go into the record, submit it and it'll go into the record. Okay. You can what? You can give it here when at the end, right? Okay. What if you want to give it to us? We'll take it.
You can keep that part if you want. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, just first I want to just thank everyone for coming out tonight. Um this is the first time that Oh, I'm sorry. My name is Calvin Brown, District 8 city councelor live on Admiral Shell. Um this is the first time that we actually got a full um
understanding and proposal and view of what's um the proposal proposal would be up there. Um it comes with a lot of promise. It sounds very good, but it's another opportunity for the residents to come out here and to hear it and also to give their opinion. So, we have to, as a
city councelor, I take those two and I put them together and I continue to watch the project and um move forward and try to figure out what's best for Chelsea. Obviously, when we hear these proposals, we like to think about what we're here for, to create jobs, to
continue to um work with our residents and provide opportunity. As we all know, since the pandemic, jobs have been very hard to go to get. Um folks have not been going to work. folks have not been back to work. Economic development has been slow. It's things that we listen to
to find out what fits in our neighborhood, what proposals we get. We haven't received a lot of proposals for this site. So, we listen to them. This is the first step that um we actually got solid information. Now, it's time for us to go back and find out what was really true, what is really being said
here, and how do Chelsea fit in, and if they do fit here in uh going on the the of the meetings, I'll be at the next meeting. I like to ask the proponents, I mean the not the proponents but the people here today if they can give us a feedback um prior to those next meetings
that we can hear some of the questions that was asked that I can get more understanding um how they feel about those questions and also the concerns of the residents but again I thank all the residents for being here today. Thank you. Thank you counselor. I and I was remissed by I wanted to make a um
identify people who've submitted letters some of whom spoke today but I don't want anybody if they realized that they had sent them that I had mentioned them. So I'm just going to identify the names of people who submitted letters um for or against just letters in general. Fidel Maltes, Eric Schwarz,
Yazamine El Marib, Sam Lang, Melissa and Alex Uloa, Rhonda Winer, Robin Sola, Terry F. Widner, Elizabeth Shahaneian, S. Michelle Sisleman and James Taylor, Yeiho Jiho Chen, Nicholas Gre
Gregorretti, Kaylee Verington, and Greg Murphy. So, I didn't want to be um remiss in saying that these people had submitted notes. And again, we're not closing the public participation portion. The next step is this is going to the planning board on the 15th. It
will be in this room. And as John indicated earlier, because it's they're doing a um site plan review. It will be an open meeting and they'll be here to you can speak in your point, your mind. Then as well, the next hearing before us is scheduled for August 12th, a Tuesday.
what was the second Tuesday of their month and we did a special one this time because we knew that there would be more people who wanted to speak on this and um and that will be in the same places here. Um and you know that it won't be advertised again because it's already been advertised. You can check if you
want prior to that meeting with the department because if if for example the planning department has planning board hasn't finished their review yet, we will not be then seeing it until September and I wouldn't want people to come out when they don't need to. So, but so double check on that one. I they
probably would be they the agenda will be posted on the site, but if you the website, but if you have any questions. So, again, thank you all for being here. Um well, yes. What um if you're if you want to speak and and I'm only doing this because that it's still open. If I had closed the
hearing, you wouldn't be able to speak. So, thank you very much. I just want name and address again. Oh, Marlene Jennings, 33 Brickwater Drive. I just wanted to say thank you for acknowledging all those people that wrote letters. I also want to say for the record, I checked
tonight there were 397 people that wrote in on the petition that went to John Dri and Fidel Maltz against this. So I wanted you also to be aware of those the petition that went out as well. Okay. Is that was that petition? We don't we don't have a copy of that. Is that here?
Um it was it you had to go on to our flyer through the QR code and it took you to a petition. Okay. Well, we'll need a copy of that. I'm sorry. I'll be happy to give it. I did not get a copy of that. You didn't get No, you didn't get any. We could email it. Yeah, we'll need a hard copy for our records. So, but didn't you get the the emails that
were sent to you through the petition? No. You you never received 400 letters against this? No. Did Fidel? I I don't know. I haven't spoken with him about it. Okay. Because of when I I just went on to it prior. I'll I'll bring one up
afterward. Okay. Thank you again. Thank you. Um sorry, real quick. Uh, I will email address Eddie Gaffne at uh 100 comments way. I'll email my information to the board. I didn't realize we could do that and I think there may have um John to
your email was in there but I don't know maybe there was some something happened. It wasn't forwarding to you. Um, we'll get that straightened out. One thing I just wanted to add uh because I ran out of time is I did speak with previous uh city council members and planning board members and the people that I know that used to be on those boards are against
us. I just wanted to add that. Thank you. Thank you. Um, all right. That's all right. Well, I didn't say you close the meeting, did you? No, but I said when you had All right, come on. One more minute. All right. I just I'm kind of confused and fast. Talk. Oh, thank you.
I would like to know who is our primary contact to make sure it's John. Is it John? Yes. Thank you. I just want to make sure so we can close that loop. It's going to go to the board. The board has a record. They have to keep the record. So they are the primary keeper of the whole record for the case and
he's the primary contract and John is the department head and he gets it. Great. I just want to clarify. It's okay. All right. Motion to close. Motion made by Joe. Seconded by they wanted to give what? Say what?
Well, give whatever if you have anything you want to give to give to John. If you have something you want to give for the record, yeah, you can you can drop that off at any time. You can drop it off at the department any time. You can get an email. So, any Yeah. And again, look for, you
know, whatever papers you want. That's where they go. Well, we have Well, we don't need emotions automatically. continue talk to the 12th. No, I just have to know it's Do we have a motion to continue to the 12th? Made
by Joe, seconded by seconded by Marilyn. All in favor? Um Okay. Okay. So, um wait, I need a motion to adjurnn. Made by Joan, seconded by
Arthur. Did you get that guys?