Hello, this is the zoning board of appeals. Um, this evening I am Janice Tatara. I am joined by the other members of our board and I'm going to take the role. Yugo Perdomo here. Put your Arthur Ashel here. Marilyn Marilyn Vega Torres
here. Janice Tataka here. We're also joined by Wetto and Hector. The uh first thing we'll take care of a little business. Have people have the opportunity to to review the minutes from our last meeting? If you have, may I have a motion or to
approve, comment, whatever. Is there a comment? Motion to approve the minutes. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor? I. Thank you. We're going to move. So we have um a couple of our cases have moved. We have 2025-10
3462 Wimmit Street and 1420 Penroke Street. Um they've asked to withdraw. Do we need a motion to allow them to withdraw? Um do I have a motion to allow the withdrawal? Motion to withdraw. Arthur. Second. Second. You go. All in favor? I. Um we have a motion to continue. I
want to say three cases. We've have a request to continue them. 202511, which is 81618 Broadway. 202512471 Eastern A and 20251383 Watt Street. They've asked to be continued. Do we have a motion to continue these?
Motion to continue. Made by Arthur. Second, Marilyn. All in favor? I. Thank you. The first case in front of us today is 2025-14 for Medford Street, Michael Msuchi for special permit and variant seeking approval of an existing residential
structure from a one family to a two family structure and the installation of a rear second means of egress which does not meet the minimum requirements for required lot area, parking spaces, required open space, required sideyard setback and combined sideyard setback.
This has already been to the planning board. So we can in fact decide this today. Um um will can you tell us what the planning board said about this? Uh yes. The planning board recommended approval um of the special permit with
standard conditions as applicable um and the kind of standard conditions for a roof deck. Not to put any ga um gas grills, umbrellas, etc. on top of the deck. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Who's here to present this case? Hello. Can you please introduce yourself? Name and address. Mike M.
Michael Masucci, if you if you want to pick it up, you can if it's easier. Michael Masuchi for Medford Street. Talk to us about what you're proposing, sir. So, I bought this property back in February of this year. Uh, I bought it off market.
Um, it had two electric meters and two gas meters. I was under the assumption it was a two family house, which I was going to renovate or I am going to renovate um and make it two condos. Um,
the building department looked into it for me back in 1983. It was zoned, reszoned as a single family. Um, before you are the plans. Um, the first picture here is the basement.
It's going to have a bedroom, full bath, office area. The front office area has to be an office because the front windows in the basement are aren't legal size to have a um a bedroom. It's going to have a laundry in the basement with a walk out to the
courtyard. The second picture is the front entrance off of Medford Street. You can take a right into the living room, half bath, kitchen area with a set of stairs to the second unit.
The second unit is the exact layout as the floor below. Living room, half bath, kitchen with a set of stairs leading up to the top floor which will have two bedrooms, a full bath, laundry.
What what kind of parking do you have? Uh there is, as we all know, Medford Street's very congested and tight. There is off streetet parking on I'm sorry street parking only. Are you making any structural changes to the building?
The only structural changes the existing building has a center stairwell which is dilapitated. And so we're going to reframe all the joists and move the stairs over to one side.
The picture before you here is a spiral staircase which by by law I have to put a second means of egress from the second apartment the third floor down to the courtyard. We just extended it up to a uh future roof deck with means of egress
on every floor. Future roof deck or are you cananning a roof deck is is part of your proposal here. Okay, correct questions. The second unit will have access to the roof deck. The first unit will have access to the courtyard.
Okay. Questions? On the uh uh lower level, um the office area have a closet on it. The office area has that. It's a little utility room
that's under the front stairs, the cobblestone stairs. But it does have a closet. It's going to it's going to be wide open. It's not going to be closed off to be made a bedroom. There is a closet there, but it's not going to be closed off to have a door to get into it. It's going to be open.
So, it will be a a closet with no closing doors, but it will be a closet. It's going to be a little room is what you basically Right. This is just going to be an open room with a storage closet. This is right under the front stairs.
But you mean more like a storage pantry kind of thing because there's not going to be a closed door. Paper, computer, p. No. But no door is what? No door. It's not going to be a a closed closet. I know where he's getting at where it could be turned into a bedroom. It's going to be wide open.
But then on the drawing that we need to go away. No. On the drawing there on the plan footprint, there's a door there showing a door. So yeah. So what you're saying is that that's inaccurate. Yeah. It's inaccurate to have a door there where it says closet.
Okay. I'll just make the laundry room bigger. No. Well, you have a door. It's all he's saying. You're telling him there's no door and you're showing them a door. I I think what he's trying to say is the office area will not have a door. It's not going to be a closed off room. It's
just like an open room. But there is a closet that has a door. Oh, the closet has a door. Okay. That's what we're trying to figure out. The closet has a door, but there's not going to be a door to get into the office. It's going to be wide open. Oh, okay. Because otherwise, I know what he's getting at. It's going to be turned into
a bedroom. But it's a little misleading because there's a door there where the laundry room is. So you see the laundry, there's like a little So when you come down the stairs to the basement, this is all wide open. So the laundry room area has a door right here. It's just going to be a stackable laundry in the closet in the hallway.
Okay. In the office will have a storage closet. Okay, that makes more sense. But this is wide open. It's not going to have a door to get in like a bedroom. Yeah, it's a little misleading on the floor plan because the door looks like it's it's open. So, it kind of looks
like it's for the office area, but in reality, it's for the laundry room. Correct. Yeah. This is from here to here is all wide open. Yeah. But right next to it to the right where you see the laundry like the door. Yeah. Right. This is This is just a laundry closet.
Yeah. Okay. Any other questions? So the doors that you I mean sorry are you okay? The stairs that that that show on the plan those are for the exterior for the back that lead to the that's going to be an exterior spiral staircase on the exterior. On the exterior
is there any stairs in the interior? Yes. These are all stairs here. Just that right there. Okay. Okay. Okay. You have another question. You have another question. No. Um will what do we need a variance for in this case?
Variances are needed for minimum lot size, minimum lot size per unit, minimal um minimum usable open space, minimum sideyard setback, and combined minimum sideyard setback. Um the uh setbacks I believe are triggered by the roof deck, which is just sort of following the
structure that's already existing. So the roof deck is triggering the the variance, the the sideyard setback. Um but because Oh, I don't know why that happened. Sorry. Um, but because he's converting a single family to a two family, that then
triggers the minimum lot size and minimum lot size per unit. Okay? Because the lot is already very small. Okay. Um, I'm going to open this to the public. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak to this matter? Sir, sir, this is your turn. This is your chance.
Please act get to the microphone and I give us your name and address and you can ask whatever questions you'd like. My name is uh Thomas Johnson. I live at number two Medford Street in Chelsea. These u
houses are attached brick row houses Philadelphia style. Um you may have let me bring this to your attention a couple of things. You may have uh
noticed you you only you sent out a letter to uh number six, which is on the other side of number four. And the only barrier between these buildings is a
firewall, a brick firewall that runs between each building. They're attached. The front is only 18 feet wide. The buildings are 18 by 36. I personally
about 40 some odd years ago bought number two and spent nine months gutting out and redoing the building. These buildings all they were built in the 1850s.
So they needed to be and they were many of them were done over years ago during the depression. many were done over. Um, now he mentioned he wants to make condos out of these. We have a problem in that
neighborhood. The houses on that side on the even side are different than the ones on the other side. They're larger on the other side. The other on the odd side, they have
backyards where you can park cars. behind Medford Street between Midford. I don't know if you people are familiar with the uh the neighborhood. Are you familiar at all with what it looks like? You are? Yes.
I can't hear you. Yes. Okay. There's an alley. You can't park a car in the back of any of these houses. So, each house has 18 feet in which to park a car in front. For example, in my
house, I can't park any cars in front of my house right now because since the first of the year, there's been a dumpster there. Not in front of number four, but it's in front of number two. So, and I've had problems already with
this uh Mr. Massuchi. He sends people there to do work and there's no supervision whatsoever. None. I've had to I've had the correct people there that have come there.
No, no foreman, no supervisor. I've had one man dump liquid into my yard. He sends people there to do things, tear out the buildings, and he's put in a new concrete base uh seller.
There was no original cellar there. They tore out the cellar and they left a mess on the street about two feet wide,
three or four inches high by 15 feet of just dirt that came out of the cellar. And I had to get the truck driver because there was no supervision. I had to get the truck driver that was driving this dumpster
to get them to clean it up. Not only did I catch one man putting pouring liquid into my yard when they were tearing out, but I caught another man dumping trash into my yard.
And boy did I. Not only that, on the front when they were tearing out the men that he sent there, they'd leave. Anything they dropped on the ground that didn't go into the dumpster, I ended up cleaning up.
Now, number six, the lady who owned number six passed away. So, you wouldn't have heard anything and you will not probably hear anything from number six because she passed away. And I believe it's in litigation. The house,
it's also empty. Now, I I got this letter and I and as I read it, I may be incorrect, but as I read it, um the zoning there's there's a number of problems
with the zoning there, putting a multif family. And back in the time when they put the zoning correctly, they did it to help the people that live there. If you override the zoning, then you're only you the the neighborhood has turned
out to be a very nice neighborhood because many people individuals have come in there and done h houses over for themselves like myself. All right. If you make it, where are you going to put all these cars? If this now I take it he wants to make condos out of
it. That would be two separate owners in that one rowhouse. uh that could possibly bring four cars, two cars for each unit. If a husband and wife buys a unit, there's going to be two cars today.
Same thing. Four cars, maybe not four cars, maybe only two or three cars. Where are you going to put them? We have problems in the city already. I see what's been happening with the city because of all these apartment buildings. You can't drive through the
city anymore without getting stuck in traffic. It's terrible. We're doing the right thing. You think you're doing the right thing by the city, but you're not doing the right thing. You're overcrowding it and it's going to be trouble. Not now. It's all all these
apartment buildings are brand new now. They this this in the in the past Chelsea has a very shaky reputation and in the past the old ways to do businesses if you had a friend
in the city or you paid money you could override any of the rules and regulations. But I understand that this is the new Chelsea. At least that's what I've heard and read in print. Now, there were multiple things wrong
with converting. I got the impression he tried to he said that this had multiple meters in it. I moved in there. It was a single family. They're paying taxes as a single family.
Also, the family that lived there, there were multiple generations, three to four generations lived in that building. They were lovely people. They were old-timers.
When I moved there about 40 some odd years ago, nobody wanted to live in that neighborhood. You could buy a house for next to nothing because there were empty places. It was the poorest neighborhood in the city. The city went through a problem and they
did a wonderful job. They did over the streets, the sidewalks, put in new sewage, water, did quite a job a number of years ago. Now the city doesn't care about the neighborhood. They're involved with the apartment buildings.
That neighborhood is a wonderful neighborhood. It's been a safe I never planned on living there for 40 years. I was going to be gone somewhere after I had done a lived there for a few years. Well, it turned out that it was a very,
very safe neighborhood. And I always had the feeling it was safe because it looked like such a poor neighborhood. Nobody wanted to come in there and break in and steal. There's nothing to steal. But as of right now, it's a very nice neighborhood because the buildings we do
have trouble once in a while. We have multiple buildings and so do you have open up into three units and a lot of section eights
drugs problems are so so do you have a re so my my suggestion is this in the old days you could pay somebody to override the rules if if this doesn't meet the requirements of zoning
Don't override the rules. Rewrite new rules and then you're okay, but don't be like the old Chelsea. Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak? By the way, would you please have
somebody take There's been a dumpster in front of my house that's been full of trash. Not from number four, but for six months there's been a dumpster in front of my house where nobody could park there. We'll talk to inspection. We'll have we'll have somebody talk to inspectional services, sir.
Hey, and nobody could park there and it's over run with trash from the neighborhood. Okay. Not from number four. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak on this? There being none, I'm closing
the public participation portion of this hearing. Um, are do we want to consider this, ladies and gentlemen? We want to consider So, could could I make a couple corrections? Sure. Okay. So, I bought this property back in
February. I got the dumpster permit. The permit's good for one year. This gentleman is correct. It takes up part of number two because the dumpster is big. It's in front of number four. takes up part of two, but I have a permit for it. I have a demo permit.
My demolition contractors when they started, they called me down there and said, "One of your neighbors is in your house and he's telling us to stop." So, I went down there. This gentleman was on my top floor causing havoc, telling these guys they got to stop work and we
needed to speak to him first. And I nicely asked him to remove himself. and he put up a little stank and then I said, "I'll I'll have you removed by the police." So, he's been a problem ever since. He is correct. I got a fine for the concrete contractor. We redid the
basement slab for a footing because of the condition the building was in. They left a they call it an overuse bag. Leftover concrete. When they have no way to dump it, they put it in a bag and they're supposed to come back and get it. Well, they never got it. I was
unaware of that. I got a $300 fine. I paid it. It was removed. That's the only time that I've ever heard any complaints, okay, about Okay. Thank you. for Medford Street. Thank you. Um, so let's first of all, let's talk through the variance.
Where are the variance requirements? You know that. So, when it comes there are there are conditions for a variance and there are conditions for a special permit. Look at me. Oh, sorry. Conditions for a variance. You have to meet all of them and we all have to agree. You have and since there's only
four of us, all of us have to agree today. Conditions of a ve of a special permit, it's different. There's a little more flexibility in that. We'll talk about them, but that you don't have to meet every single one of them. But with the conditions of a variance, you have to meet every single one. So, we're going to go through them one by one, and
you're going to explain to us, and then we will figure out. And so again, we're looking at the variance for the minimum lot size and open space basically for the roof deck. For all intents and purposes, the the sideyard setback and combined sideyard setback is what the roof deck
is triggering. Converting one unit into a two-unit structure is what then is triggering the minimum lot size, the lot size per unit and uh open space. Right. But there's but we're all right. That's why I asked if there was anything physically done to the building. So
there's been nothing physically done to the building. Okay. The first one, a variance is sought because of soil conditions, shape or topography of such land or structure and especially affecting such land or structures but not affecting generally the zoning district in which it is located. So does
tell us about that. You know, why do you need this? It's this is where you say something like well the building is the building. We're not adding to it. We're not saving. It's just it's the building is the building. All I'm doing is renovating the interior four walls. You're not making any changes exterior.
Exterior wise, there are no changes. Yes or no? You go. Yes. Yes. Marilyn, yes. Janice, yes. Second. A literal enforcement of the visions of this chapter would involve a substantial hardship, financial or otherwise, to
you. A literal enforcement of this would involve a substantial hardship, financial or otherwise. A hardship towards myself. Well, I bought it as for my children. Mhm. When and if that time comes and to
renovate it and make it beautiful for the uh community. Yeah. But that's but so what's the hardship? The hardship is I I have well invested a few hundred,000 into the building. So, all right. You go. Yes, Arthur. Yes.
Marilyn. Yes. Janice is Yes. Desirable relief may be granted without substantial detriment to the public good. There's no detriment to the community. Usually you say something like, "We're
adding housing. Chelsea needs housing. We're adding two beautiful condominiums for housing." Hugo. Yes, Arthur. Yes, Marilyn. Yes.
Yes. Desirable relief may be granted without nullifying or substantially deraggating for the intent or purpose of this chapter. In other words, you know, you're not doing something against what's intended by residential housing,
commercial, whatever it is. It's you have to answer that. I've given you enough All work will be by Mass General laws, the building codes, but it's not taking away from the intent of this chapter, which is for housing,
for private housing. It's furthering it. It's furthering it. Correct. Hugo. Yes. Arthur. Yes. Marilyn. Janice. Okay. So, you met those. Now, let's So, that means those are the four you had to meet. Now what? Now we're looking at the special permit
primarily for the parking will. So uh he needs a special permit because it's a change to an already existing non-conforming structure. Uh and then yes, it's for the number of Austri uh and is providing zero.
Yeah. Okay. And other and if he was a one family, he'd have he was two was what was required before. Yes. Okay. So let's talk about these again. We don't have to all these you don't have to meet every one of them but we do want to talk about them. The social economic or community needs which and this is for us to discuss not so much
for I guess you guys you to comment on social economic or community needs are served by the purpose of this proposal. I mean housing is housing. I mean it's it is it seems to me that that's consistent with what we said earlier on the variance is he's providing housing. So that seems to
be serving a need of the community. Yes. What do you guys think about that? Well, I'm a little confused. I thought you selling this as a condos. I'm not selling. You're not selling? Not selling. Okay. So, do do we I I mean I think it
does. I mean I think it does. Do you think that it meets this one number one? Yeah. I mean this is built. Yes. Okay. We all agree on this one. traffic flow and and safety, including parking and loading. You know, there's
never an easy answer. I mean, loading isn't an issue. Traffic flow is an issue. Parking is always an issue. So, I mean, I don't think that, you know, I think it's been what's resident parking over there. It's always been resident parking. It's always been Yeah. And there's I can remember
and on the even side there is as as the gentleman who testified said, there is no parking anywhere. So, it's not uh while I think that it's an issue, it's just I think are the other tenants going to get the uh parking sticker? They wouldn't be able to get the parking. No, no, no. This one they're
not multi, right? Yeah. So, because it's it's a existing non-conforming structure. So, he's converting one unit into two. And so, one unit would be technically considered kind of grandfathered. Uh, and so the unit the one-bedroom unit will be the unit that's ineligible
ineligible for the city's residential parking sticker program. So one the one-bedroom unit which is like the the the basement and first floor uh will not get the parking stickers. Um the other unit should be eligible to park on the street.
So so that would be yes. So, we're adding two, but that's I mean I don't see that as a as a b a deal breaker if you will. Adequacy of utilities and other public services. I don't think that's an issue.
Um neighbor and and I'm just saying so again you can disagree whatever neighborhood character and social structures. It seems consistent with the neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. Uh impacts on the natural environment including drainage. We've heard nothing to the contrary.
um potential fiscal impact including impacts on city services, tax base and employment. Um no more than any I mean any other single or duplex would for uses in well court districts not a court district.
Okay. So I think that it seems to me as though they meet the majority of the criteria for special permit. So what is the planning department's recommendation Mr. object you uh the department recommends approval.
Uh it does meet the general intent of the zoning. You know, single and two family units are allowed in the R1 district. Um many of the other um properties have been putting up roof decks. I mean, and that's kind of why
the uh some of the variances are being triggered. He's not demolishing an entire building and rebuilding it. Um he's really just renovating the inside and then adding a roof deck on top. So I mean the department Well, I I think we just need to make sure that if we're going to talk do they
have a do you have proposed um conditions? Yeah, I mean the the proposed conditions are standard conditions as applicable. Petitioner is not permitted to place or use gas grills and or umbrellas on the roof deck. Uh the one-bedroom unit shall be ineligible for the city's on street
parking sticker program and the roof deck must not be visible from any public sure that we had talked about the needs of the root act. With that being said, do we have a motion, Marilyn? Okay. I make a motion to um
approve um 2025-14 for MET Medford Street with special permit conditions and with the conditions as articulated. Yes. Correct. Um do I have a second? Second. All in favor? I
I Okay, it'll take a couple weeks. They have to write it up. People have the right to appeal blah blah blah. So, you can't proceed to do anything until the write up until until you hear from the planning board. Okay. Until you hear from landing department. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay.
Next case. 2025-15 82 Clinton Street. Maria Cartahena for special permit and variant seeking approval to construct a rear edition in deck which does not meet the minimum requirements for required combined yard setback and required sideyard setback. As with the last one, this one has
already gone to the planning board and so we can if we are in so inclined decide this today. Hello. Please sit down and introduce yourselves. And before you do, will what did the planning board the planning board say about this?
The planning board recommended approval uh and added the only condition uh that all lighting does not shine directly onto abudding properties and is compliant with international dark sky standards. Okay. Um intro please introduce yourselves and um and talk and introduce
us to your project. Um this is Maria. Pick up your pick up the This is Maria and then I'm her son here to help translate for everything. That's and your what? Tell us your last your name is Hamilton J OJ. Um, and and you're already age Clinton Street.
I'm 20. Okay. Okay. Um, so you're gonna So, um, you can either translate for your mother or speak on her behalf and she can say and hit you if you've done the wrong thing. But, um, see, she can understand what Yeah. And um, so because we haven't heard
about your project, so describe to us what you're proposing here. Um, so our plan is to uh make a deck. Oh, no. For uh the backyard and then to extend uh and to extend their room a bit bigger as well.
Okay. And how big are we talking? What how much space are you adding? What is the What is Do you know, Will? Can you tell by the We're trying to figure out how much how many feet you're adding. Do you know how many feet you're adding? Uh they she said that they that you guys
have the papers to that already. Right. That's what we're looking at. Yeah. And this is your house, right? This is you where you live. And you said you wanted you want to extend the rear your master bedroom and then add a deck on the master bedroom or a deck for the
whole house. Uh for the master bedroom as well. Okay. So you walk out of the bedroom onto the deck. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. I know they are trying to construct a 12 by 12t x 6t deck. Um, and then a three
by seven foot extension to the rear. That's what I was trying to figure out. Okay. That's what So, so that's Yeah. So, 3x7. So, so we're talking 15 feet out total and then and are we extending on the sides at all?
Yeah. The variances that they need are sideyard, setback, and combined minimum. So, they're going out beyond the the footprint of the building, beyond the width of the building. Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Okay. Um, does that so so 15 feet
out about about little longer than this length of your building now? Yes. Is that okay? Do you have any questions? Um, this is a single family, correct?
Yes. Okay. Gentlemen, You go. Do you have any questions? Um, okay. This is the first This is the public um participation portion. Is there anybody here who wishes to speak on this?
There being none, I'm closing the public participation portion of this. We need to go through the variances. So, you know how we just did with that guy before you because you're looking for variances. And again, the variances are for sideyard setback and combined sideyard setback.
Before we do that, I'm sorry. Could we just Why does you want to extend the bedroom like um what's the reasoning of it? Cuz it Yeah, cuz um her and her husband share the room, so it's there's not enough room for both of their stuff to be in there. His stuff is in the laundry
room right now. Okay. Okay. Is it a little room? Yeah. Okay. Also, just to clarify, my fault. So they aren't extending the width of the house really. They're just extending into the back into the back, but then that triggers the sideyard set back
because on that Yes. Okay. So it's not like they're widening the house. They're not going beyond the the length of the house. That's what that's what I didn't didn't make sense to me. Okay. So let's go to the variances. We're going to have to go through these. The variance is sought because of soil
conditions, shape or topography of such land or structure and especially affecting such land or structure but not generally affecting the zoning district. So, you're looking for this. You you want you need this
because if you want to build anything, you're the building the land isn't big enough. If you how how far is it to what's how much set yard backyard setback do we have now after they put this in? Do you know? Give me a second to look it up, but I
don't know off the top of my head. That's my fault. No, it's not your fault. Um so the variance is not because of soil condition, shape or topography of the land. So you're not the land is small. You can't do anything if you don't
there's nothing you can do. Basically it's it's in a sense asking like what is unique about the lot whether it's soil conditions the shape of the shape of it. You couldn't build anything. If you tried to build anything there you would create all of these triggers. So the
shape is what's making the is creating the triggers right? Yes. You go. Um, yes. Marilyn. Yes. Yes. The enforcement of provisions would provide a fin a substantial hardship, financial or otherwise. It sounds to me
like your husband might be happy for you to get a bigger bedroom, but so would this be um what kind of hardship would this be um to not have this? I'm sorry. Excuse me. You need like what makes it difficult? Is it um you know if if we to if we
didn't allow you to do this what would what would happen? Um well he'd have to still keep his he'd have to get out of his room in order to change after showering and stuff like and stuff like that because his dresses and stuff. So it's a so the hardship here would be financial. It'd be it's personal.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Desirable relief may be granted without substantial detriment to the public good. Nobody's getting hurt. Nobody. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Desirable relief may be granted without getting dealing getting away from the purpose of this chapter. You're not you're not negating you're not adding multiple families. You're not doing anything. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. Now, let's look at let's look at the
special permit. And the special permit we're looking for is for what? Uh they need a special permit because they are making a change to an existing non-conforming structure. I hate those. Yeah. Um the social, economic, or community
needs needs needs which are served by the proposal. I mean, it's not it's not getting in the way of anything. It's it's their backyard. Yeah. It's not bothering you. It's not bothering anybody. It's not it's not adding traffic. It's not adding parking. It's not doing any of that stuff. Um, it's not adding
utilities or run the public services. Um, I it doesn't seem like it's in the way of the character of the neighborhood or the social structures in the area. There seems nobody's talking about drainage as an issue. There's no flooding or anything like
that in the back and there's no impact on city services tax base or plan. I think I think that these are fine. What do you think? Okay. Okay. Do we have does are there conditions proposed by the planning board? Yeah, the only the only
conditions are to ensure that um all lighting does not shine directly on abuing properties. And did you you heard that, right? You know that. All right. Um do we have a motion? I make a motion. Yep. To um approve case 2025-15
to 82 Clinton Street for special permanent variances to um seek approval to construct a re addition and deck with the uh with the condition articulated. Okay. Do we have a second? Second. Maryland. All in favor? I I
Okay, have fun. Thank you. Yes. So, it'll take us like about two weeks to write up the decision. We'll file it with the city clerk and then once we file it, there is a 21-day appeal period where anybody can appeal the decision. Then after that appeal period, you know, passes and no one's
appealed it, uh you'll be able to, you know, meet the conditions necessary and then get your building permit to keep going. Thank you. Thank you. Um, next one. 202516 155 Cresenav. Um, Ever Nunes Chavez for special permit seeking
approval for a proposed taxi livery parking facility. Um, again, as with the previous two cases, this has already been to the planning board and they've decided it and we can if we choose to decide it today. What was the recommendation of the planning board? Will
the planning board recommended approval of the special permit uh and to ba basically um the uses for you know storage of vehicles. Uh if the petitioner wishes to store more vehicles on site than the number of parking
spaces approved they must have they have to just have to return back to the board for a modification to do that. Okay. Um but so generally recommended approval. Okay. Yeah. All right. So why don't you introduce yourself please and describe your project. Sure. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen of the board. Um, my name is
attorney James O'Shea on behalf of Ever Nunes Chavez. Um, Ever opened this um, business as a printing company right in the middle of the pandemic. Uh, part of that business was car wrapping and as you can see, he's got uh, about 27
spaces there. Uh, the problem was that he uh, the car wrapping business and the printing company are not doing well. fortunately ever has se several other businesses including a livery business. Um he has a total of 15 livery vehicles
which wouldn't even take up which is a little more than half of what the space he has here now. He's not looking to make any changes but the property and the business that's operating there is hemorrhaging money. He's paying $8,200 in rent to his landlord for the property
on a 10-year lease. um and he's not able to make that up out of the printing company business, but the delivery company uh is doing very well. Uh so all he's seeking is to be able to park these vehicles in this area. And when we presented to the planning board and they
approved this, one of the things they noted was this area in Crescent Street is not only is the property open to this type of uh of business where he's got, like I say, he'd be parking just a little more than half of using half the spaces for delivery vehicles, but it's
set up in an area that that really wouldn't have any impact whatsoever um on the area or the neighborhood. It's zoned uh commercial and set up essentially for this purpose. So, while his first business uh wasn't working, the business that he's seeking to
operate with these vehicles would certainly uh allow him to continue to paying um a significant amount, 8,200 in rent, not including the utilities and insurance. Um and it really wouldn't change anything. Uh if his, for example, if his printing company was booming,
there could be up to 27 cars there at any given time, right? So, we're really not changing anything in that respect in terms of the traffic because the original business was set up to be able to accommodate that many cars. Okay, questions.
Um, I'm going to open this up. Is the Is there anyone here? This is a public um participation portion of the hearing. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on this? There being none, I'm closing the public participation portion of this. I have a couple questions. will um one of the things we generally talk about when
we have these kinds of facilities is we make sure that they don't do any washing or anything outside um outside. So if we're going to approve this, I think that would be in a condition that we'd want to include because in the past we never, you know, we don't want them washing it or any of that kind of stuff
outside. Um this has always been a parking lot, right? I mean it's been a parking lot primarily. Yeah. Yeah. the it's really the special permit is to go from like one non-conforming use to another non-conforming use. Uh at least that's how we're treating it. Um yeah, it is a
parking lot that whole kind of area of like Crescent A are a lot of parking lots. So yeah. Okay. So um we have to go through the special permit um requirements. Oh, it was me. Um so which building is
he using for office or uh shop? Which Which which building is building is the printing shop? The big one. Stand up and point. The far on the far right. Any mechanical work in the shop?
Just the wrapping of cars uh was the only uh mechanical. They're really not even operating the the printing company at this point because it's really not doing any business. No, I'm talking about his cars. He the one he uh plans to park in in this lot. Is he going to do some mechanical work?
No. No. In fact, he just opened another business in was it East Boston? Winthre. My my apologies. He opened a a shop in in Winthrop that uh is mechanic shop. So, no existing use there.
No change in oil or anything like that on No. Okay. So, no mechanical work, no washing machine, no washing of the vehicles. Right. Um let's go through the special permit stuff. um social, economic or community needs which are served by the proposal.
It's not hurting anything. I mean, it's consistent with the area. Um traffic flow and safety, including parking and loading. Parking isn't an issue, and again, the area, it's consistent with the area. Adequacy of utilities and other public services doesn't seem like they'd be adding any.
Neighborhood character and social structure, it's consistent with the neighborhood area. Um impacts on the natural environment, including drainage. Um again they won't be allowed to be washing vehicles or anything. So they wouldn't be have other than natural drainage which would already be taken
into account when they when it was a previous garage previous parking lot. Potential fiscal impact including impacts on city services tax base and employment. Yeah. Um do we have a a motion on this?
I'll make a motion to accept case 2025-16 155 crescent with the with the um with the standard and then um and if they ask they can't if they try to to park more than the number of parking spaces they have to come back to us no
washing of vehicles no mechanical work done on site right second second all in favor I okay there's the next two cases we're going to be continuing to our November hearing which again I should have made clear at the beginning of this is
November 12th. Wednesday, the November meeting is um Wednesday. Okay. The 12th Oh, because because the 11th is the holiday. Okay. So, one So, we have um 202517 which is
124126 Pearl Street and 202518 9 Madison Avenue. Um we are looking to continue. Arthur, I know that you're rec you're recused from 20 to hearing 202517, but that you are not you can still vote on it administrative administratively. So,
do I have a motion to move those two? I make a motion and second. Marilyn, all in favor. The next case in front of us is 2025-9 403 to 405 Broadway New Properties LLC for special permit invariant seeking
approval for the conversion of an existing residential space on the third floor from one residential unit to two residential units with first floor and second floor space remaining commercial which does not meet the minimum requirement for rear yard setback usable open space and off- streetet parking.
This is the first time we'll be hearing this. We will not be deciding it today. This will go to the planning board on the 28th of October and then back here again on Wednesday, November 12th, not the usual Tuesday. No, Wednesday, November 12th.
So, please introduce yourselves and your project. Good evening. James Cippetta, uh, five Fremont Street and Winthre attorney for the property owners along with the architect who I would ask. David Troy, David Chroy, architect.
So, good evening. Um, as is shown on the on the screen, this is a request u to uh ex alter expand a pre-existing non-conforming uh structure and uh and for variance as
pointed out by the uh ISD uh director in his zoning review letter. So what what the plan will show is that currently there is a one f a single unit on the second floor which is a fairly large
unit that the owner wishes to cut in half so as to create two units thereby establishing uh additional housing within the structure. Secondly, there would be an extension of the commercial
use which is a restaurant which also is carried out on the second floor and would be carried out uh within the footprint of the existing building. The third as is pointed out by the zoning
review letter uh created by the ISD director is that there are variances required. Now this is a building that is on a very narrow lot. It's built lot line to lot line. There is no parking. They point out uh correctly that u it is
impossible to comply with the parking regulations as the building is sitting the way it is situated on on the lot which is looks to be from the 30,000 ft view about the narrowest bu uh lot out of the subdivision
in in in that area. uh no additional construction will be taking place outside the existing footprint of of of the building. Uh the benefits obviously to the community and
number one is to create one additional housing unit maybe for a smaller family or for a lesser cost. also to expand uh the thriving business uh on the second floor which would allow the owner to use
that additional space for functions. So and that also would be carried out within the the footprint of of the building thereby creating no further nonconformities of of the building footprint.
So the first floor is Tucasa. Yes, it is. Yes. And the up and the second floor is currently used by the restaurant or not? Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And it it's used for actual diners or it's used for storage or what's it used for?
It's actually very underutilized. Yeah, that's not what I'm asking. What's what's what what is it currently intended to be used for? Um, there is a connecting stair and it's a function room, but um it's again it's not not utilized.
when if you want to come up as you are you part of the petitioner or you want to I mean if you Yes she is those are the owners well then you can come up you ask the owner you can come up and introduce yourselves and tell us what's going Hawaii sorry right now it's used for your name this Louis aa
it's used for weddings for first communions for sweet so it's currently used as a function space as a function space and you want to enlarge the function space enlarge uh to create it like more beautiful like a little space on the side but you're not changing the use you're just changing Yes. Because right now with the economy the way it is, people are looking for a
smaller sp like parties are now less people. Now it's like 30 people. They don't want So you want to make it a multi multi-use function? Yeah, that that's what we try to use. But you're not changing the use at all. No, no, that's okay. Thank you. That's okay. I'm sorry. And upstairs is you want to chart from one one residential to two
residential. Yes, that's correct. They're not adding any floor space, any livable space. Taking what the square footage of that area is, slicing it in half, and creating two smaller units. Yes, I may speak. Um,
so again, um, under when I when I say underutilized, I mean it's not 100% occupied on the second floor. Uh when I say underutilized on the third floor, I mean you go in there and it's a rather
large oversized um residential unit where it's very much cavernous uh for the you know function of having natural daylight into the middle of of and it's just the na the nature of the way that the building was
laid out in a downtown in a business central district where you have a narrow lot. We have a a lengthy building and um I think the proposal to split it into two is a better architectural.
So when you So you're going to you want to split it into so you have one in the front and one in the back. Yes, madam. So the idea is that it would make that livable space more livable um and and more habitable, better um
function in terms of natural light from both sides. Um so architecturally I I think that it's a better solution than what it is now. Um so I I would um just as an architect not not speaking about
the zoning um architecturally I think the solutions the solution that I would bring as an architect is a betterment to the building interior. Okay. Questions. What size are the units? Are they like studio apartments, one bedrooms?
Um I believe One bedroom, one one to two bedrooms and then one in the back. Somehow this is not showing this right here. One to two bedroom is in the front as you could see. Bedroom two, bedroom one. Yeah, it looks like they both have two
bedrooms. It looks like a threebedroom there on the front. One. So that one to the back is actually uh facing out to the back. The one in the front is facing out to the Broadway. Which one's on Broadway? The three bedroom or the two bedroom? The two bedroom is on the Broadway side
and the third bedroom is the back. Okay. So, how big that doesn't answer the question. What's the square footage on? Is that what you're looking for? No, just one. Oh, size. Oh, so 600 in the front and then it'll be range of 900 to the back.
Are you planning on doing anything like on the property itself like the structure like the front of the property? Like you're going to add windows for lighting. Um, it has it has enough It has enough windows in the front and certainly in the back
as well. It's just that um because it's narrow but then Yeah, narrow and it's I'm trying to think of where it is. I think the old bakery was next to it if I'm correct. The what?
Oh, the liquor store. Okay. Okay. Okay. Windows are already. Okay. If you got to talk, you got to talk into the microphone. It's just I know the property more than it's like five big four to five big
windows. Um that's going to help with the natural light a lot. So the reason to share the apartment is because now with the way it is, it's so difficult to rent the big apartments. It's almost impossible. Nobody wants to live with more people and we don't want to have that like you
know they bring the strangers. We rather to know who's living there instead of having people who's going to rent bedrooms and things like that. We don't want to deal with that. Yeah. Louisa for the record what you said I don't know if it was picked up on the microphone. Could you state what you said where the property was located? Was
it you know what was the property that was there? You said the liquor store you know next door to the left is the because you when you said it you said it on the bench so it wasn't heard. So, for the record, could you say it again? What you just said in the beginning where we're located, but when you were sitting down, could you just repeat it again? Okay. On the left is the liquor store. I
think the name is Caribbean liquor or something like that. And on the right, it's a cell phone uh store. Thank you. Thank you. And also the building would be sprinkler would have to be sprinkler. Um just to give another idea. So, take up the pick it up if you're going
to talk. Just just for the board to understand. Um what we did here is we're indicating just basically a minimum change right in in the highlighted black walls
if you will, right? So the change is so minimal and and in terms of like what they have now and how they're going to get um a more
livable, more functional apartment unit because effectively this whole area of you could see in the range of close to 700 square feet is effectively
a big h big big space that um currently is you go you walk in there and it really doesn't feel like like an apartment home. It feels more like a function hall that was left
and I show us where the line's going to be dividing the buildings dividing the apartments. Yeah. So if you go back to the other uh slide Yeah. So uh the front unit This this is the line of division. This is the existing stair as will remain as
is. So we're not we're not changing this stair. We're not changing this wall. We are adding this wall here to create two bathrooms. And where would their entry door be? Where would the entry door to this unit would be off
the stair here to this this back unit? entry to the front Broadway unit would be at the same existing stairs. So you said that was the Broadway unit. So this is the Broadway side. I apologize if I'm not the two bedrooms.
Yeah. Yeah. So and then this this is the back side quote unquote. Um but as you could see what we're doing is essentially adding bathrooms and and kitchens in the middle cabinous area of of the
building. So, so it's a shared entryway existing shared and then the door on one side and then Okay. Right. Right. So, it's really trying to be as minimal to the layout, current layout, but maximum to
the livability of the two units. And the entrance from Broadway, those stairs, the stair goes all the way down to Broadway. Yeah. To to Broadway. There is on the Broadway side on the street there's an entry here dedicated to the residential
whereas here on on the Broadway lower side it's dedicated to the retail. So it's your classic mixeduse where you have entry for restaurant and you have the entry for the
apartments. But the fact of the matter is the owner has a large cavernous apartment on the top floor that is just not characteristic of a downtown apartment unit. So if I may say say that
I know that's a qualifying statement but I just we got it. We got it. Thank you. Anything else? So there there's no form of egress on the back in the back. There's no like um fire escape or there is an existing fire escape
um and we'll maintain that. We'll fix that up. However, um the building code does allow for single means of egress up to three levels. So, this would be maxed out. So, the building code does not allow to go
higher than this. It's um it's maxed out. they they they've been alerted to that. So, uh the sprinkler system would be extended uh to cover for the the two units. So, it would be uh made safer than it is now.
Let's just say that by by using applying the latest code. Okay. So, the restaurant has two entrance, one in front of the Broadway, one in the back. One in the back is a service entrance. Okay. Yeah. And it's um it's primarily for the
kitchen. It's they're not proposing to change any of that at all. The the restaurant on the first floor will remain the same function, the same um egress in out. You could actually eress on the in the first floor, egress
through the kitchen. There is a path out from Broadway to the back. um currently and also the second floor also gets a stair from the second floor to the back kitchen. So they could eress out from there as well. Second floor does have two means of egress. It's just the third
floor uh has existing fire escape which they will repair and maintain. Um, but that doesn't that's not uh it it's still required to have the sprinkler coverage for the single means
of egress because according to building code fire escape is an escape. It's not a an egress. So it is allowed to have they are allowed to have have um it it let's just say that when when the building uh department reviewed it um
there weren't any building code violations that they cited. So, I think we're we're within the uh the building code uh to make this safer. And and those three those three bedrooms will go on top of the restaurant in the back. So, actually the um quote unquote the
top is actually below here so that the the masonry footprint of the existing will not change. So, they're not proposing to extend the third floor back. They're just He's asking if it's just above the
restaurant. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes, sir. Yep. It is above. Those bedrooms will go on top of the restaurant. Above the restaurant use the function. Exactly. Above the function area, which now they're wanting to Yeah. Because of
the fact that it's not a it's underutilized and not not as functional now. Any other questions before I open it up? Um, okay. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak to this? I'm not closing the public participation
portion of this because you'll be back in front of us here on the 12th of November. And as I said, you'll be going to the planning board to make your presentation to them on October 28th. That'll be here, Will, in this in this bill in this room.
Okay. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Thank you. The next one 2025-20 59-61 Kerav Roy go for special permit and variance seeking approval to establish two additional residential units by constructing a
third floor above the existing residential space which does not meet the minimum requirements for sideyard setback, third rear yard setback, usable open space, off- streetet parking, front yard setback, lot size, and maximum requirements for density, floor area
ratio, and lot coverage. As with the previous case, we will not be deciding this today because we will has to go to the planning board on October 28th and you will be back here on November 12th, Wednesday, November 12th. So, please introduce yourselves and tell
us about your project. Hello, my name is Raquel Gulo. I am Roy Wh and your address? Uh, we live in 90 Pinnacle Street, Tukbury. Okay. Um, so here we have 59 Kerry A. Um, um,
it's a property that my father has owned for quite some time now. It is currently a multifamily home. Consists of um, four units and he just wanted to add two units on top. Well, he wants to build on the top.
Yes. So, nothing is being changed on the sides. We're just going up. Okay. And you're matching the footprint of what's below. Yes.
Talk about the footprint questions. How many bedrooms? I mean, if you're going to talk, bring the with you. It comes out. There you go. So, um, this is the front. This is the front
bedroom right here. Right. So, um we're going to have that's side by side, right? That's going to be a a kitchen open with the uh with the living room. That's going to be a bathroom. Bathroom.
Three bedrooms on both sides. Is that is it three bedroom? Yes. Two units. Two units. Three bedrooms on both sides. Are they are they just basically exactly the same on each side? Right. And how big is that? How what's the how
big are those? Is it is it a big spot? That's uh I can see I can see this number here. That's okay. That's all right. See this number right here. Where are the bathrooms located? Where are the bathrooms located on the
floor? The bathrooms is right here side by side. Okay. Okay. Okay. Also, just to provide some context, I believe there was a fire on the third floor like years ago and it's they essentially want to like kind of
reput back the units that were burned. I think you can kind of see in the existing photos that the third floor almost looks like it was half chopped off uh cuz the fire destroyed that portion. Um yeah. Okay.
Any other you go? Yeah. Um is the parking on this to have we're going to try to have two parks, two or three of them, I think by choosing the park. How many do you have now? Nothing. You don't have anything.
Where do you plan on putting the parking? It's on the side. Pick up the It's right here. We have I think it's about uh 16 or 17 ft from here to the ne
to the neighbor side. Well, that's not Those are not. That doesn't look like it's legit parking. No. Yeah, we we would also I think we need a site plan. I don't believe we've gotten a site plan. Okay. So, we we would need a site plan for the parking
questions. Would he come before us for that or like would that be included on this? We need to do that. Okay. Because I mean that's what he's saying is we need if you want parking and you want to get some relief from parking then you have to show us how
on a site plan how you want to propose parking because what you're proposing is a couple of things that we need approval for. You're proposing tandem parking which is it's not unheard of. It's just we need to approve tandem parking and it sounds to me like you might be kind of close to the walls.
Now is that parking like existing already? Is it already used as parking currently? No. No. Okay. Yeah. So, we'll need a site plan showing where you want to locate your parking spaces. And so, we're able to kind of assess whether or not those
are the proper dimensions for a parking space. Um, it also looks like you'd be um you'll need relief for the location of the spaces being within 5T of a sidelot line. Um, so I think that would be definitely useful for the planning board meeting coming up. Plus, I think it's also it looked like
it was next to um fire escape. So, I think that Yeah. So, it looks like on the side you're next to if you want if and you know and plus you don't have a curb cut, right? So, anyway, if you if again if
you're not if you're not proposing parking, we'll take that into consideration when we're making our recommendation. If you are proposing parking, then we need to see what you proposed. If it's possible not to have the park, it's better for us. That's up to you to decide. I mean, you're going to have you need relief
from parking no matter what. You need to decide whether or not uh you know whether or not how much you want to propose you need relief for because they would with two additional they have no parking now right will yeah they have zero parking now and they with the addition of these two units you
would need 12 parking spaces so you would need a total of 12 parking spaces a total of 12 they have you have nothing so you got to figure out if adding a couple there is going to make a difference only you can do that you have to make a decision on whether or not it's worth
proposing that to us and getting the plans, etc. Because if you're proposing parking, then we need plans. If you're just proposing to say, "Listen, I don't have 12 parking spaces," then you don't need another plan. You just need, you know, well, you're asking for relief for 12 parking spaces as opposed to 10
parking spaces. I mean, that's really kind of what you if all you have room for there is 10 parking two parking spaces, you're still going to need relief, special permit relief, no matter what, right? So you're either going to need for 10 for 12 or 12 minus whatever you're proposing over there. You're
going to need relief one way or the other. So you guys need to decide personally whether or not that's an expense you want to go to or whatever. That's your choice. But if you're if you want to use part if you if proposing parking because you think that's what you really want, then you need a plan
for it. So you guys have to consider that, right? Okay. And that's not for us to consider. You go. How many entrances this building have? I'll pick up the microphone.
Sir, sir. Hello. We have the front stairs, right? And then we have the fire escape on the back. Fire escape or not? Fire escape. Yep. See it right here. Does this fall into the same category as the earlier one? Will it doesn't need
two means of egress because it's not above three flights. I I don't know building code as much. I would have to check on that, but it could be. I can I can Yeah. I mean, well, that would granted that's not within our I guess our range, but yeah, but I can check with uh the
building inspector. Carolyn, anything else? No. Okay. Um I'm going to open this to the public. Is there anyone who wishes to speak on this? There being none, I am not closing the public participation portion of this. You have to go to the
planning board on the 28th of no of October and by then you should decide what you want to do about parking. And back here on Wednesday, November 12th, okay? Because the questions if you mention parking to the planning department, planning board, they're going to do the same thing that we just
did. Well, where is it? Where's the plan? Where's the whatever? If you don't mention parking, then they're then then that's okay. You don't mention parking. I mean, that's and and I'm not and I'm not being flip. I'm just saying you're making a decision as to what makes sense for you and we're going to be considering again we're going to have
to consider you don't meet parking on this no matter what proposed. So, okay. And and feel free to stop by our office and we can like talk this through and see what makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank Thank you. Okay. The other thing we have a couple
of of of cases um one of which we have to determine if these cases are major or minor. Let's let's take them one at a time. 2018-601 1761 178 Washington A originally requesting a modification of the approved permit special permit and
variances. The modification is to convert the groundf flooror retail space to a personal service establishment. The request was amended on se in September by the petitioner who now seeks to seeks to convert the community area into an additional residential unit and convert
the 1,200 square foot of retail space on the ground level to a personal service establishment. Why don't you clarify that clarification for us? Sure. It was just Introduce yourselves, please. It's Sure. Peter Brown and Amakiata from Brown Legal to Oliver Street in Boston.
It was just a a a miss uh a miss sentence in the original application that just wasn't covered. The original application, as we discussed uh with Mr. Depri before we filed, was to do two things. one, to go
and convert our existing community room to a two-bedroom apartment, and secondly, to take the commercial uh retail that's down on the first floor that's currently sitting vacant, and to turn that into a personal service establishment through the construction
of a hair salon, which would be eight individual uh salons inside instead of eight separate chairs. So, that is the request that is being made. our request to you. Well, first let me introduce our full team. I have
the property owner here, Andreas Systos, who's the member of the LLC from United Property Management. Um, this is uh been his property that he acquired after the permitting. Um, but he has rented and
been managing it and he has over 100 buildings in all of our surrounding areas and mold and sus and ever and all around and has an outstanding uh reputation. So, we're very proud to be here on his behalf this evening. Um, the
first thing we're asking for is a determination that our proposal constitutes a minor modification and if the board were to agree, we would ask you to go and approve it. Uh, let me start with what we're not asking for and and I think that's a helpful way of
determining whether it's minor or it's major or at least helpful for the board. We're not adding to the building footprint. We're not seeking to reduce any parking that has been granted uh to us and we are not proposing any use
that's not already allowed as of right in the BR2 district. So, what we're seeking to do is to take the 900 foot community room, it's really being, you know, underutilized. It's not didn't fit
the ideal of what we were going and trying to do, and add a 25th unit. Our original permit was approved for 24 units. So, you only want to add one unit. Just one unit. One unit, not two. Okay. One unit, two bedrooms, one bath.
So, and again, that's that that premises already exists. We're not adding to the internal footprint at all. No structural changes. We're just simply to go looking to go and add that unit. The second thing that we're asking to go and do is
to take what's currently not being utilized at all on the retail, which is if you're looking at the building from Washington, it's on the sitting on the left hand side. We're not looking to expand the footprint at all. or just looking to take that 1,200 ft, put it to
good use through a personal service establishment. Importantly, the personal service establishment under the zoning, which falls within a hair salon, doesn't require any additional parking than does retail. So, that was in our view kind of
all factored in within the decision that was received when the building was first constructed. The good news here is that the boards in their wisdom saw that this was a property that was developed around public transit. Um factoring in the need
to go and add housing, the you know the lesser likelihood that there would be a tremendous amount of vehicular traffic and use of cars and that's what our experience has been which is good. Not all of the tenants sit there and have cars. We're not at max capa capacity in
the garage. The garage has two levels. and it's currently serving all of the units and uh not having any issues. Our request will as far as I know. Yes. Okay. Our our our request is that you treat
this as minor and that you approve it without any additional parking uh requirements. But I will say to you, I think it's perfectly it would would certainly wouldn't be unreasonable for the board to sit there and say you're adding it, you're adding a unit, you're
adding a we generally don't do that. We generally if it's minor, it's minor. We don't make changes. If it's minor, it's minor. So don't ask for something that may not make it into something that you don't want it to be. We we we believe it is. And we believe the end of
the day, the approval that was provided gave us one parking gave us one parking uh one parking relief. We required 37. You brought it down to 36 and gave us other things that allowed the building to go and be constructed. We don't believe these changes are going to
warrant any additional traffic or harm to the community that would require anything additional for the building. We think it's a a good building in the in the area. We think it has been a positive project. I know it's very wellrun. Um, and we think we would just
have a better building and be a better contribution to the neighborhood with these changes. Okay. Thoughts? I think it's minor. Yes, I think it's minor, too. You go. Minor major.
Minor. Sure. Of course. I have questions. Um, in regards to the personal service establishment, would that be just for the residents that live in the building or is that for like the public? That would be for the public. They said hair salon. Okay.
There mini hair salon rooms. Is that Yeah, like rent a chair. Like you rent a chair kind of like Okay. Exactly. But instead of having an open area where you just had eight chairs, they would kind of create these little pods where each person would have their area, but it would be one it' be one
common entrance. And we think it's a it's a nice way and Andreas has seen this with his other mixeduse properties of a nice way of activating of activating the street and serving the purpose of what the retail or what we hope the retail would have done. So, we think it'll be a nice addition. Certainly better than it sitting vacant
than not doing anything uh for the building in the neighborhood. Okay. Minor then. Okay. Do we have a motion? I make a motion to um it's minor to say it's minor. Second. Second. Mayor. All in favor?
Okay. It's minor. Fun. Thank you very much. 2022. Real quick, Janar. So, we'll just write up a letter saying at a, you know, dually posted meeting the board determined it to be minor just for your files and ours. Uh, then you can Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. 20229 157 Washington A requesting a modification of the approved special permit variances the modifications of the addition of two residential units on the third floor. Good evening. David Midland representing
the petitioner talking to the microphone. Counselor microphone Ricky yells at me when I don't hold it right then. Um so we were here for a determination as to whether this is a major or a minor
modification. Um I will leave it to the board's discretion to make that determination. the project. The the special permit and variances were approved in 2022, I
believe. And um that was for four residential units to be built over the Maline Garcia real estate office. I'm sorry, I just mixed up my papers as I usually do. Um,
and Miss Garcia has um is proposing now that she turn some um framed attic space which was going to be empty into two
additional units. So there would be six total residential units rather than four. Again, no change to the footprint, but there would be the addition of two two additional units. And the V it's an additional variance, is it not? Yeah, it essentially increases the
degree of relief needed for parking. Um it the now the total requirement I think increased from 18 when it first came in to now 21 and a half and they have no they have none. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or no, they have um six six spaces I believe. Um but what
this also does adding the two units increases a requirement for open space and now they would need a variance for open space whereas before when they originally came in they did not. So it create it increases a degree of relief needed for parking and creates a new
variance. In my my feeling is that if you're adding new variance and we're giving them additional relief that I think it's something that is major and should be heard and should but I also think um so one do we agree that it's major? Yes major. Yes. So that being the case
though I would make a recommendation and if that with your approval counselor that rather than hear additional any of the additional um facts on this case because we have a limited board here today and I think to do all of all of
the petitioner uh is fair you so that he gets as fairing as possible that it would be better if there's more people here just as possible to see that. So I would like to move this to November. Yeah. No, that's agreed. That's why I was kind of stumbling around my presentation trying not to say too much.
So, right. So, you were you were just asking. So, you weren't making you were not make that's why I did not want you to make a presentation. I just wanted to know generally what the major changes were and I think it's enough to consider you gave us enough information in my opinion to consider us major. I don't want to hear anything else because I
would like to have a fuller board hear your actual um your actual application. Yeah, that's agreed. Agreed. So we So we have a a vote to make to have a vote to major to say it's major and to move it to November. I make it. Yes.
You want you vote to make it major. Move it to November. Second by Arthur. All in favor? I. November 12th, Wednesday. Thank you. Thank you. Um do we have a motion to adjurnn? Make a motion to adjurnn.
Second by. All in favor? Thank you, gentlemen.