Good evening everyone. Welcome to the 2026 reorganization meeting of Simmonson Township Committee. Can everyone stand please to salute the flag? >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible and justice for all. Thank you. This meeting is being held in accordance with the Open Public Meeting Act, public law 1975, chapter 231.
Notice was published in the Burlington County Times and the Courier Post on January 10th, 2025. I'd like to do roll call. Mr. Conduct >> here. >> Mr. Horner >> here. >> Mr. McIll >> here. >> Mr. Seagress >> here. Dr. Taylor Walls
>> here. Thank you. If I could have Reverend Daniel Kirk come forward please with invitation. Thank you. And so let us take a moment to recall that we are in the presence of God. Good and gracious God, as we gather here
uh for this meeting and in a particular way as we look forward to the year ahead of this reorganization of our committee and uh of our community here at in Cine. We ask that uh your wisdom and guidance
might be with us always. That uh those who lead might know the common good and work in ways to promote and ultimately that your mercy and justice might shine forth in our care and concern for our
fellow citizens and for all who are part of this greater community. We ask this through the power of almighty God who lives and reigns forever and ever. Amen. >> Can I have Sophia from National >> Can you See
by the dawn what so proudly we held at the twilight last gleaming whose broad stripes and bright stars
through the perilous spot or the ramparts We watched were so gallentally streaming
and the rockets. The bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star spangled yet away for the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Thank you. Commissioner will come forward. You ready? >> I >> Dr. Karine Taylor Walls >> swear that I will support >> I >> swear that I will support >> the Constitution of the United States
>> the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and that I will >> and that I will >> bear true faith >> bear true faith >> and allegiance to the same >> and allegiance to the same >> and to the governments established >> and to the governments established
>> in the United States >> in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state >> under the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people. So help me God. >> So help me God. >> I do further >> I do further >> solemnly swear >> solemnly swear >> that I will impartially >> that I will impartially
>> and justly >> and justly >> perform >> perform >> all the duties of the office >> all the duties of the office >> of member of township committee >> of member of township committee >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God.
We have some paperwork. You're coming next. >> Mhm. Okay. Next, um I can I ask for a nomination for the office of mayor. >> Madame clerk, I u with honor and
pleasure nominate Ryan her for mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. Miguel. >> May I have a second? >> I would be happy to second that. >> Thank you, Mr. Congo. Voice vote please. >> I >> I
>> Thank you. Mr. Foreman, if you would come down. >> Sure. >> Former fight. They're really back. Ready. >> Ready. >> I state your name. >> I Ryan her
>> swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. I swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and that I will bear true faith and allegiance >> and that I will bear true faith and
allegiance >> to the same >> to the same >> and to the governments established >> and to the governments established >> in the United States and in this state >> in the United States and in this state >> under the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people.
>> So help me God. So help me God. >> I do further solemnly swear >> I do further solemnly swear >> that I will impartially >> that I will impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties of the office of mayor >> perform all the duties of the office of
mayor >> according to the best of my ability. >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. Football team. answer. Thank you. press. >> Yeah.
>> What? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. She's glad that she does not want that. any meeting is when she hands. >> You good? >> Yeah. >> At this time, I'd like to ask for a motion of deputy mayor.
I would be honored to nominate for deputy mayor for 2026, Albert Seager. >> Thank you, Mr. Cond. May I have a second, please? >> Mr. Mayor, I second that emotion. Uh,
sorry. Motion. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. Roll call vote, please. Madam Secretary, >> yes. Mayor, Mr. Mr. >> Hi, >> Mr. Miguel. >> Hi, >> Mr. Seas.
>> Hi, >> Dr. Taylor Walls. >> I mayor, >> I >> thank you. Who's holding? >> Come over here, buddy. >> Yes, sir. >> Repeat after me.
>> I, Albert D. Seagrist >> do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and that I will bear
>> and that I will bear >> true faith >> true faith >> and allegiance to the same >> and allegiance to the same >> and to the governments established in the United States >> and to the governments established in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state >> under the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people. So help me God.
>> So help me God. >> I do further solemnly swear >> I do further solemnly swear >> that I will impartially >> that I will impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties >> perform all the duties >> of the office of >> of the office of >> deputy mayor of Cinnamonson Township.
>> Deputy mayor this of Cinnamonson Township. >> According to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. >> Congratulations. So much. Yes, at At this time, we'd like to recognize former township mayors, member of
township committee, and other dignitaries who are present this evening. Former Cinnamament mayors in attendance, Brad Smith, who was also a former state senator. Former mayor, former mayor Mike Minton, and former mayor Ben Young.
Cinnamonson board of education member Donna Aayakon, Assemblyman Balvier Singh, County Commissioner Allison Eckle, County Commissioner Tyler Burrell, ADMINISTRATOR ERIC SCHOIGER, Township Clerk Lisa Pacion, CFO Julia Edmonson,
Police Chief Bill Obachowski, PUBLIC WORKS SUPERINTENDENT Kevin Gaunt, Sewage Authority Chair Rob O' Conor, and Riverton Mayor Jim Quinn. Moving on to appointments of township committee liaison. Liaison to administration and veteran affairs. Paul
J. Condo, liaison to parks and recreation and economic development. Ryan her liaison to public safety. Ernest McIll, liaison to public works and finance. Albert D. Seagris,
liaison to health and senior services. Karen Taylor Walls. Our first resolution this evening is resolution 2026-1 designating township solicitor as Kgno Law Group. May I have a motion to
approve resolution 2026-1, please? >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. May I have a second? >> I will second that. >> Thank you, Mr. Condo. Roll call vote, please. Madam Secretary, >> yes, Mayor. >> Mr. Condo, >> I.
>> Mr. McIll >> I >> Dr. Taylor Wall abstain. Deputy Mayor. >> Hi, >> Mayor. >> I >> Jeff, would you mind joining us up front HERE on this side?
>> Nick, Bob, you better watch yourself. >> Shut up. We have several items on the consent agenda this evening. I believe we had plenty of copies in the back. Uh at this time, what I'm going to do is
um open public comment on consent agenda items only. May I have a second? >> I'll second that, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. If anybody has questions or comments on consent agenda items only, please come forward to the
podium and state your name and address for the record. >> Michael, >> new year. New year. Same thing. Happy new year. >> Y >> that obviously wasn't a resolution of yours. >> Uh no. Mike Owens 100 pornell. So, we're
naming uh Burlage County Times and Courier Post and can we talk about what happens after 31 with the public notices? >> I can answer that. >> Thank you, Lisa. >> After March 1st, we as actually right now we have now have a page on our
website that we will be posting all public notices twice a month for the whole year of 2026. We will be running an advertisement in the Burlington County Times directing everyone to our website, but between now and March 1st,
the notices will be on our website and in the county. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And I saw the new >> thing public notice, but I didn't I'm sure other people did not know. >> We will add the link for the state as well. >> That was my comment to get it get it out
there so everybody did. >> Thanks, Mr. Thank you, Michael. >> Seeing no one else come forward, may I have a motion to close public comment on consent agenda items, please? >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Deputy Mayor Seagris. May I have a second?
>> I'll second that. >> Thank you, Mr. Cond. Voice vote. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Abstensions. All right. May I have a motion to approve the consent agenda as read?
>> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor, but I am going to abstain from resolution 2026-35. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. May I have a second? >> I'll second that, Mr. Mayor. >> You good, Lee? >> Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you, Deputy Mayor Seagress. >> Roll call vote, please. Madam Secretary. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Mr. >> I, >> Mr. Miguel. >> I With that one abstension, >> Dr. Taylor Walls, >> I'm going to abstain from Go ahead. Uh,
resolution 2026-12 13 17 19 20 24 25 26 27 28
and 30. >> Thank you. And I'll second it. >> Thank you. Um, deputy mayor. >> Hi, >> Mayor. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> Okay, moving on. We do have some mayoral
appointments to the planning board. Class one, which is the mayor's designate, Michael Roadside, term to expire 1231 2026. Class 2, Michael Minton, the township
official, term to expire 12312026. And class 4, Cynthia Lamont, term to expire 1231 2029. Comments from mayor and committee. We will start with Mr. Cond.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, good evening everyone and welcome to the 2026 reorganization meeting of the Cinnamonson Township Committee. First, I'd like to wish everyone a happy and healthy new year and uh just mention that 2026 brings
some changes to this committee and I would like to welcome committee member Taylor Walls and congratulate her on her election. UM, NEXT, congratulations to Mayor Her and Deputy Mayor Seagress on your new positions,
and I look forward to working with everyone this year in the new year. Uh, during my time on committee, I've been fortunate to play a part in improving what was already a great community. The this committee has shown continually
its commitment to Cinnamonson providing one of the best park systems in the county with improvements every year. We have concentrated on economic development in both our commercial and industrial areas. So much so that Cinnamonson has been cited by the county commissioners as an example of a
successful revitalization plan for riverfront town on the Route 130 corridor. We have worked to improve roads, reduce storm water retention, and achieved countless other initiatives, all while maintaining a stable tax rate. But these things do not happen in a
vacuum. They happen because in addition to this committee, Cinnamonson is very lucky to have a team of dedicated people who are as committed to Cinnamonson's success as anyone. So, I would like to not only thank this committee for the work that they've done, but also the
people who deal with the daily grind of running Cinnamonson. Thank you to the staff, including our administrator, Eric, CFO, Julia, Municipal Clerk, Lisa, and everyone who shows up in this building every day to make sure Cinnamonson runs as smoothly as possible. Thank you to Kevin and the DPW
team who make sure our township is in is clean and wellmaintained. to Chief Obachowski and the police department as well as Chief Drangula and the fire district who ensure Cinnamonson continues to be a safe place to live. I would like to thank the professionals
who keep us on track, informed, and provide us with the guidance necessary to do what we do. And I would like to thank the residents who have placed their trust in us to be good stewards of Cinnamonson. Last, but certainly not least, thank you
to my wife Mimi who has put up with a lot so that I can serve on this committee and who is always available and happy to remind me when necessary that I'm not that big a deal. That's true. That being said, it's 2026 and our work isn't done. Cinem has
always been a great place to live, but I'm looking forward to being a part of making it even better. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thanks to everyone, Mr. Miguel, I just have a few things to say.
Friends, family, neighbors, dignitaries, and colleagues. Thank you all for attending our 2026 Simmonson Township Reorganization meeting. First off, I'd like to thank my family. This part's always good. My wife Tracy and my three sons, Matthew, Kevin, and
Kyle. Without your unwavering support, I wouldn't be able to do any of this. And I love you guys. To Mayor Her, congratulations on your new position in Township Committee, as well as uh Committeeman Albert Seagris. Congratulations on your new new
position. Also, I know you uh committee and and Al Seagris will continue to serve Cinnamon with grace, respect, and integrity. To Dr. Karen Taylor Walls, welcome to the township committee, and we are looking forward to working with
you to keep Cinnamonson a desirable place to live, learn, work, and play. Page two. To Eric, Lisa, and Julia, thank you for a great year and for all that you do. You continue to do your duty
for another year, and the township has thrived. It was an honor and privilege to work with alongside of all of you and look forward to more good times and shenanigans ahead. Over the few the past few years, Simmonson has seen a number of positive changes since the collection
since the election of this committee. We installed a new township administrator and solicitors, a new superintendent of public works, and returned to and promoted a chief of police from within, creating a truly dynamic team working together for the
benefit of all residents. And a team that can learn can look at things from all angles and make well-informed decisions. We have seen great strides in economic development with businesses coming into Simmons and up and down the Route 13 corridor and in our industrial area. We have worked with our school district to place a school resource
officer in every public school, allowing a few ch our children to have an improved relationship with the police, all the while keeping them safe. Taxes have remained stable with no increase in a municipal portion to residents tax bills coming in the last eight years or
so. All the while being cognizant of our economic climate and planning for the future. 2026 has the makings of a very exciting year. We are underway with a number of projects in Cinnamonson which is a testament to the continuity and hard work of this committee as well as
our professionals, employees and volunteers. Econ economic development continues to move forward with multiple national retailers and businesses viewing Cinnamonson as a destination to succeed. Our economic development team led by Mayor Hero and Mike Mitten is working hard to see projects through for
the benefit of all Cmenson. Our police department led by Chief Obachowski is continuing to work to improve community policing and keeping our streets safe. Our award-winning fire district and fire department led by Chief Rangula have trans transitioned their agreement with
the Palomar ambulance allowing for improved EMS services in town. The township is working to improve communication with residents by utilizing our Nixel and Gov pilot programs. Our township website was revamped for improves access of
information to our residents. >> Sorry, page three. >> Page three. >> Sorry. Best part is there's five words on each page. It's so big. Even with glasses, I still had to have my my font like you can see space. >> It's huge.
We have worked with our township engineer and contractors to implement drainage improvements in areas around town that have have been neglected for decades. This can all be credited to all the people up on his days who have proven their love for Cinnamonson and
dedication to making it a better place. Respect and civility is now the norm in Cinnamonson, a norm which will continue for the foreseeable future. Of course, none of this would be possible without our incredible staff, professionals, volunteers, and of course, the residents. To all of you who have
attended meetings, asked questions, sent emails, and provided your thoughts to our committee. We thank you. We are not all knowing, and we are not mind readers, and the best way to work for you is for us to work together.
Oh, last page. With all the success in 2025, I would be remissed if I didn't mention the loss of our solicitor Carmen Saginio. >> His sudden passing, left a hole in our team. Carmen was a great attorney, personally, a mentor,
and more importantly, a friend. He will never be forgotten. I would also like to thank Mayor Stephanie CrarAl. Your effort, leadership, and dedication to our town was greatly appreciated and will be sorely missed. I look forward to working together with all of Cinnamonson in 2026 and beyond. May we have a great
year together and may God bless each of each of you and your families today and every day. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mr. McIll, Dr. Taylor Walls, >> this is where me being the newbie is going to be obvious because I did not prepare remarks, but sometimes the
remarks that you don't prepare are the ones that are most heartfelt. So, I am going to first and foremost say thank you because going through this journey, walking the streets of Cinnamonson, getting to know my neighbors from all across all neighborhoods of Cinnammenson
has been an honor. having one-on-one conversations and getting to see what the heartbeat of Cinnamonson is and what that definition of community is has been a lesson that I will never forget. And it's that resilience and it's that lesson that I bring with me here. I
thank all of you for your time and for your one-on-one conversations and for your welcoming. Um, this is a definite change, but change is good and change is what pushes us forward. So, I appreciate all of you being very open and very welcoming to me during this process. And
I look forward to working to with each and every one of you. Congratulations, Mayor Her and Deputy Mayor Seagris. I look forward to working with you as well. And for everybody that's on here, answering all of the questions and emails and everything. And to the residents, thank you for your trust.
Thank you for your honesty. And thank you for your commitment to going forward in this journey together. And I have to give a special recognition to the team, the ones that were there every day in 152°ree heat, going out there and having
conversations and never giving up. So, a heartfelt thank you to all of you. And I'm looking at all of you right now. Thank you for being here. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your commitment. And thank you for being a part of that heartbeat that makes Cinnamon a very, very special place to live. I look forward to working with all
of you again in the future and seeing where we are at this time in 2027. But um and I also want to thank my husband Ryan. Um what a ride and we're only just getting started. But um thank you for everything and for
being my partner through each and every step of the way. You are amazing and I'm honored that you're here today. So again, thank you very much to everybody. Let's get to work. Let's do it. >> Deputy Mayor Seagris. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening everyone here tonight and those listening around the world. Before I continue, as always, as I always do, I want to thank my wife Stephanie, my son Ronan, and my daughter Veronica. none of this be worth doing without your
love, your support, your patience, and I am deeply grateful for all three of you. To Mayor Ryan her, congratulations. I'm confident that Cinnamonson is in very capable hands as we move into 2026, and I eagerly anticipate serving alongside
as deputy mayor. Congratulations and best wishes also to our newly elected committee woman, Dr. Karen Taylor Walls. I also want to express my appreciation to the rest of the township committee. It is an honor to serve with such
thoughtful, committed individuals who are focused on Cinnamonson's best interests. Though we may occasionally differ in opinion, we are united by the same goal to continue moving this township forward. And to the residents of Cine
Mintson, it continues to be both my honor and privilege to serve this community. Thank you to Police Chief Obachowski, Fire Chief Philip Drangula, and their dedicated teams. You're You perform
courageous, often unseen work facing emergencies and challenges that the rest of us rarely encounter. Your dedication makes our community safe. To public works superintendent Kevin Gaunt and your entire department, thank you.
through rain, sleet, snow, or hail, and everything in between, you consistently keep our town safe, functional, and well-maintained. To CFO Julia Edmonson, township administrator Eric Schoeer, Municipal Clerk Lisa Pacion, and all the
department heads, township employees, volunteers, and professionals. Thank you for all that you do each and every day. I say this every year. I will say it every year that I'm on this day. We truly have an A team here in Cinnamonson
serving this community. Your commitment, professionalism, and excellence makes the role of an elected official easier and far more effective. Thank you. I wish everyone a happy, healthy, and prosperous new year. Thank you, Mr.
Mayor. Thank you, Deputy Mayor Seagrist. I do have a few remarks this evening. Uh, good evening everyone, fellow committee members, dedicated township staff, esteemed guests, professionals, our
brave first responders, cherished residents, family, and friends. It is a profound honor to be here before you tonight at this annual reorganization meeting as we come together to reaffirm our commitment to the place we all love, Cinnamonson
Township. First, I want to express my deepest gratitude to the heartbeat of our township, the incredible staff and professionals who work tirelessly behind the scenes every day. Your dedication, expertise, and professionalism keep our
community running smoothly and safely. And to our first responders, our police, firefighters, and EMS teams. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You run toward danger when others run away, protecting our families and homes with courage and compassion. We are forever
grateful for your service. To our Department of Public Works who work tirelessly through it all. I've said it before, but I feel it's worth saying again. Thank you for all you do. To the residents of Cinnamonson, you are the reason that we are here.
Your trust, your voices, your active participation in our community inspire us every single day. This township thrives because of you. The families raising their next generation, the neighbors looking out for one another,
and the volunteers giving their time selflessly. Thank you for entrusting us with the privilege of serving you. On a deeply personal note, none of this would be possible without the unwavering support of my family. To my
extraordinary wife, Monica, you're rubbing off on me. >> Sorry. I'll move on the end. >> My partner in everything, thank you for your love, your patience, and your belief in me. And to my children, Ryan,
Siri, Dylan, and Emerson. You fill my life with joy, purpose, and endless pride. Watching you grow in this wonderful community reminds me every day why this
work matters so much. I love you all. Tonight also marks a new chapter as we welcome Karen to the township committee. I look forward to working alongside you
and all of our new colleagues with open minds and collaborative spirits, always putting the needs of our residents first. As we begin this new year together, let us remember what makes Cinnamonson truly
special. Our sense of community, our resilience, our unwavering belief in a brighter tomorrow. We face challenges, yes, but we do so united.
And being united, there is nothing we cannot achieve. Together, we will continue building a township that is safe, prosperous, inclusive, and full of opportunity for every
family, every child, and every dream. So, here's to 2026, to fresh ideas, to neighbors caring for one another, and to a community that rises higher
together. Thank you. I I just want to point out this is the difference between somebody in their 60s and somebody in their 40s. I couldn't read this with a magnifying glass. >> Not to make you feel bad, but I'm in my 50s.
>> Thank you. Next item on the agenda, we have public comment. I will make a motion to open public comment. May I have a second, please? >> I'll second that, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Deputy Mayor Seagris. Voice vote. All in favor? I >> opposed. Abstensions
hearing none. Public comment is now open. Please come forward. State your name and address for the record. Uh, you couldn't stop yourself either. >> New year, new you. >> New year, new year.
>> New year, same year, >> same year. >> It's definitely not sidewalks. We know that. >> Okay. First of all, I'd like to say um happy new year to everyone and I am glad that the sidewalks
down Union Landing were finally completed because as you know because as you know it's been one of the things I have talked to you about several times and I just want to say thank you Miss >> Shephard. Yes, we all know you. Oh,
that's right. And for those of you who don't know me, let me tell you who I am. >> Thank you. >> My name is Jamala Shepard. I come to this I come to the meeting on behalf of the Civic Club of of Riverton Cinnamon and Palmyra. I live at 215 Front Street
in Palmar, New Jersey. But I grew up in Cinnamon. And since I'm on the subject, let me just tell you a little bit about myself. I was one of the very first graduating class in 1967.
That's to let you know how young I am. Uh but ser but seriously, I am thankful for the sidewalks and I'm thankful for everything that um you do in Cinnmenon. But I just always try to remember remember East Riverton
was a section of Cinnamonson before everybody just throw it in Cinnamonson. So I just want you to be mindful of that. And once again, thank you and happy new year. >> Happy New Year. >> Happy New Year. >> Thank you, Miss Shepard. Miss Davis. >> Good evening and happy new year
everyone. Renee Olavis, 21108 Hunter Street and welcome our new committee woman Dr. Corin Taylor Walls and congratulation on your new appointments and um Mayor her. I look forward to us
agreeing on something this year and thank you for all your hard work and your commitment to community policing. It is really making a difference. And thank you Kevin and the rest of you.
Thank you, M. >> Thank you, Miss Davis. >> Good evening. >> My name is Reverend Dr. Victor M. Lee, I am a resident of well I'm the pastor
of St. Paul Baptist Church 1420 Banner Street in Cmenson. I want to welcome Dr. Walls. I want to say to the committee thank you so much to our dear friend Mayor Ben Young.
Thank you for your support down through the years and we are looking forward to as the church celebrates its 135th year anniversary. Wow, >> which is a long time in one location. We will be celebrating and we're going
to reach out to the township to the community. We're going to have unity in the community day and we would like for you all to be a part of that celebration. And again, thank you and God bless you all. >> Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay, seeing no one else come forward, may I have a motion to close public comment, please? >> I'll make a motion to close public comment, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. May I have a second, please? >> I will second that. >> Thank you, Mr. Cond. All in favor? I I
>> opposed abstensions. Public comment is now closed. Uh moving forward, we would ask that Reverend Daniel Kirk of St. Charles uh lead us in a benediction, please. And so good and gracious God, we thank
you for this beautiful opportunity to be gathered here this evening as a community uh here in St. Vincent and beyond. We ask that your blessings might be with us not only in this present moment but as we go and journey forth so that in the year ahead we might know
your goodness and prosperity that we might be kept safe uh here and afar and ultimately that your goodness might shine forth in the efforts of our township community as we continue on the
progress of the year past and move forward. born in the year ahead. We ask this through the power of Almighty God, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Thank you, Reverend Kirk.
Moving on to the meeting adjournment. May I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> I'll make that motion. Uh motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. I will second that voice vote. All in favor? I >> I >> opposed abstensions.
All right. Our next meeting will be Monday, January 12th at 6:30 p.m. Thank you all for coming.