like to call to order the January 12th, 2026 regular session meeting of the Cinnamonson Township Committee. Before we begin, I ask that everyone join me in a moment of silence to acknowledge the passing of former longtime fire commissioner and Cinnamonson resident
Richard Dietrich. >> Thank you very much. Everyone, please rise and join me in saluting the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> This meeting is being held in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act, public law 1975, chapter 231. Notice of this meeting was published in the Burlington County Times and the Courier
Post on January 9th, 2026. Roll call, please. Madam Secretary. >> Yes, Mayor. >> Mr. Condid is absent. Mr. McIll >> here. >> Dr. Taylor Walls, >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Seest is absent. Mayor Horner >> present. >> Thank you.
>> Tonight, we begin the meeting with the swearing in of officers Brian Finery Jr. and Michael Kulick. Officer Finery, could you please join us in the front of the deis, please? As you are. I got to get you guys on camera.
>> Okay, repeat it to me. I >> I >> Brian Finity >> Brian Finity >> Jr. Sorry, >> Brian Finity Jr. swear that I will support >> Swear that I will support >> the Constitution of the United States >> the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution >> and the Constitution
>> of the State of New Jersey >> of the state of New Jersey. >> And that I will bear true faith >> I will bear true faith >> and allegiance >> and allegiance >> to the same >> to the same >> and to the governments established >> and to the governments established >> in the United States >> in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state >> under the authority of the people
>> under the authority of the people. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. I do further solemnly swear >> I do further solemnly swear >> that I will impartially >> that I will impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all duties >> all the duties >> perform all the duties >> of the office of police officers >> of the office of police officer
>> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability >> so help me God >> so help me God >> congratulations Thank you. Thank you. >> Ready? >> Cameron. Officer Kick, join us up front, please.
>> Okay, repeat it to me. I, Michael Kulik, >> I, Michael Kulik, >> swear that I will support >> swear that I will support the >> Constitution of the United States >> the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. >> And I will bear true faith >> and I will bear true faith >> and allegiance >> and allegiance
>> to the same. >> to the same >> and to the governments established >> and to the governments established >> in the United States >> in the United States. >> And in this state >> and in this state >> under the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. I do further solemnly swear >> I do further solemnly swear
>> that I will impartially >> that I will impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties >> perform all the duties >> of the office of police officer >> of the office of police officer >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. >> Congratulations.
You did. Thank you. still looks. >> He looks it though. Perfect. What we got? Is that >> please sir?
Thank you sir. Thank you. >> Man, it's quiet in here. >> Way too quiet. Way too quiet. Anybody that was here for the swearing in, please feel free to excuse yourself at this time if you'd like to.
>> We don't take offense to it. So, if you need to go, go. Yeah, it is like relax. You got 5 minutes. You can talk. >> We have five minutes.
>> It's like we got 5 minutes. Come on, man. You just talk. It's okay. Everybody calm down. >> Yes. Come on. Come on. Relax. job. That's cool. Thank you. >> That's a cool out of the fun. I do like >> I know you do. It's fun. >> Yeah, it is. >> It is.
>> Yeah, it's cool. >> Cuz I train you both. >> Yeah. So, it's pretty cool. >> Must be proud of them, too, to come in. >> Yeah, that's cool. I love that. >> Can I get some songs? just I'm like just
wait a couple more sessions until the room kind of empty out. like that. I was like, "Yeah, with respect, I'm like, tell me something." I'm like, "I'm okay." >> Good. Right. Maybe maybe when you get to the dance
maybe ask anyway. >> We might as well. >> I think so. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because it goes to be too big fail.
Yes. >> Okay. >> Good idea. >> All right. I'll do that. >> Yeah. >> With that shot if you say something.
>> Thanks, guys. Appreciate that. Low key. >> Okay, moving on to the liaison assignments. Committee member Conda, who is not here, no report. U that leaves uh up next, committee member McIll, public safety. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Okay. The monthly report for December 2025 is as follows. Uh total incidents responded to 2,973. Total arrest uh cases 71. Total arrests made 24. Total property checks made uh
1,220. Uh total motor vehicle stops 503. Total motor vehicle summones issued and 96. Total DDI arrests three. Total MVAs
61. Others MVAS the number with injuries was 12. Morgan Cemetery calls which is 1100 Simmonson Avenue 56. All were normal property checks. Approved firearm permits 14. Denied and withdrawn firearm
permits was zero. Approved concealed carry permits was two. Concealed carry permit, I'm sorry, denied concealed carry permits was zero. Temporary uh handicap uh permits issued seven. For the 800 block of Belleview Avenue, there were three calls for service and none
were priority calls. Just a reminder, there is an ongoing uh car theft issue throughout the state of New Jersey. Residents are asked to make sure their cars are always locked, that they do not leave the car keys in the cars as well as garage door openers. With the
technology such as RFI scanners, residents are encouraged to place their key fob in a Faraday bag or place their fobs in a in a cabinet in the center of their home to prevent the codes from being hacked. Last Friday, the Senson Police Department along with members of
Willingboro Police Department were at the new Albany school for a community policing event with several of the second grade classes. The event featured K9 demonstrations as well as the equipment and tools that are utilized for emergency situations. Representatives from the school district
and both police departments posted pictures from this event on social media platforms. We are aware that a uh resident posted one of the photos on the social media platform and claimed that it was insensitive in light of the recent
incident in Minnesota. To be clear, the local New Albany school community policing event was scheduled weeks ago and had nothing to do with anything on the federal level. All New Jersey law enforcement agencies are bound by the Attorney General's Immigration Trust directive. Under
directive 28 2018-6, New Jersey law enforcement agencies are not permitted to enforce immigration law. Immigration law is federal law. The Senate Police Department enforces the laws of state New Jersey. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. That concludes my report.
>> Thank you, Mr. McIll. Committeewoman Taylor Walls, Health and Senior Services. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. As part of my report this evening, I would just like to bring to the community's attention some recently posted events that are on
the Cinnamonson Facebook page. The first is the Burlington County Senior Nutrition Program has a congregate meal program. It provides lowcost nutritious meal for seniors. If you or someone you know is 60 years or older or married to someone 60 years or older, you qualify.
Site meals are served and these sites are called nutrition sites and their locations in Bordontown, Beverly, Mount Holly, and Morristown. Advanced reservations are required, but um at this time there is a waiting list for transportation. Application is required, but for more information, please go on
to the Burlington County website. And secondly, Jefferson Health will have a Champion Your Health Wellness event as part of their community wellness challenge. This event will be held at Jefferson Cherry Hill Hospital on January 18th from 11 to 2. Some of the event features will be health
screenings, live exercise demonstrations, healthy cooking and eating demonstrations, and raffles and prizes. And then lastly, there is the senior citizens new year celebration dinner this Wednesday, January 14th from 6:00 to 8 at the Marian. And this is a great opportunity to meet and congregate
with neighbors in Cinnammenson. I do want to provide the update that we are working on the Cinnamonson Township website so that all of this information will mirror what's on the Facebook page and will make it easily accessible um to all of the residents. That concludes my report. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
>> Thank you very much. Deputy Mayor Seagris, who was not in attendance, no report. That leaves my report this evening. Parks and Recreation as well as economic development. Along the economic development front, the township is currently in ne uh negotiations with a
natural a national retailer, excuse me, interested in expanding in the township along the route 130 corridor. Uh we are also undertaking an examination of the mainline shopping center to work with ownership on redevelopment possibilities. Goldsburgers, a fast
casual restaurant with locations to name a few. Hadenfield, Medford, and Philadelphia, will soon be opening next to Starbucks on the Route 130 corridor southbound. Fourquarters Mechanical, a successful business that has operated on River Road for over 40 years, has
relocated to 705 Route 130 South and represents another example of businesses that expand and remain here in Cinnamonson. Parks and Recreation. A new ADA compliant inclusive playground is being constructed at Wood Park through a
Burlington County Park Development Program grant in the amount of $175,000. This playground will feature unique play elements and poured inplace rubber surfacing. The workway the work is underway and the playground should be open to the public in the next several
months. A fitness court, including fitness elements and an exercise area, is being planned for Memorial Park. The township secured a $40,000 grant through the National Fitness Campaign and will soon apply for additional funding
through a state sponsored grant program. This project is slated for later this year. The township is also planning a special community event in July to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Music, games, foods,
rides, and fireworks will highlight the day's activities. More news to follow, and the township is also in the process of planning our summer concert series at Wood Park. This series will feature eight concerts on Thursday evenings beginning in July and the full schedule
will be published shortly. That concludes my report for this evening. Moving on, we do have an ordinance for introduction this evening. It's ordinance 2026-1 vacating, releasing, and extinguishing
any and all public rights to a portion of the paper street known as Union Landing Road located to the east of Broad Street and consisting of 0.512 acres within the township of Cinnamonson
to be advertised in the Burlington County Times with a public hearing to be held on February 2nd, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. May I have a motion to introduce ordinance 2026-1, please?
>> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. I will second that. Roll call vote. Madame Secretary, please. >> Yes, Mayor. Mr. McIll, >> I. >> Dr. Taylor Walls, >> I. >> Mayor Horner, >> I. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. Moving on to the consent agenda, we have resolution 2026-37 authorizing the reappoint of sewage authority board member James Wujik term 212026
and ending January 31st, 2031. The township committee is required to make appointments to the Cinnamon and Sewage Authority. The recommendation is to reappoint Jim Wuick to another five-year term. Resolution
2026-38 authorizing consent for extension of sewer line block 702 lot 26. The owners of block 702 lot 26, also known as Chicks Towing, are in the midst of relocating their long-standing Cinnamon
business to a new location on Union Landing Road and have previously received the necessary planning board approvals. This resolution authorizes the appropriate township representatives to execute the necessary documents to permit the owner to submit to the New
Jersey Department of Environmental Protection a treatment works approval application as required by the Cinnamonson Sewage Authority. Through the approval, NJDEP will assess the the design of a new sewer line and other
wastewater conveyances and evaluate downstream capacity for the project. Director of Community Development Michael Mitten recommends authorization by the governing body. Resolution 2026-39
authorizing appointment of community emergency response team members for 2026. The Triber burough community emergency response team consists of area residents who volunteer their time to assist emergency responders during declared
emergencies and disasters. They often are team leaders who coordinate shelters and other assistance for residents. Emergency Management Coordinator Danny Norman recommends that the governing body authorize appointment of the Cinnamonson residents to that team.
Resolution 2026-40 authorizing cancellation of taxes for totally disabled veteran block 3311 lot 14. Tax Assessor Dennis De Clerk has confirmed that the property owner meets the criteria of eligibility for this
benefit and recommends authorization by the governing body. We do have one raffle this evening. Legacy Treatment Services raffle to be held on March 28th, 2026. That is the end of the consent agenda.
May I have a motion to open public comment on consent agenda items only? >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Terrell Walls. May I have a second? >> I'll second that, Mr. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. Voice vote. All in favor? >> I opposed.
Abstensions. Hearing none. Public comment on consent agenda items only is now open. Please come forward. State your name and address for the record. >> Good evening everyone. Renee Olavis, 21108 Hunter Street. I would like to
know more about consent agenda um ordinance 2026-1. Could you explain it for me, please? >> Yes. So, um Miss Davis, the public hearing is going to be on February 2nd. At that time, you'll be able to come
forward and and ask questions and we will also be able to respond. This is just an introduction right now. The public hearing is where we could have dialogue about that. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Okay, seeing nobody else come forward, may I have a motion to close public
comment on the consent agenda, please? >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. McIll. I will second that. Voice vote. All in favor? I >> opposed. Abstensions hearing none. May I have a motion to approve the consent agenda, please?
>> I'll make that Go ahead. No. No. Go ahead. >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you very much. May I have a second, please? >> I'll second that, Mr. Mayor. >> Roll call vote. Madam Secretary, please. >> Yes, ma'am. Mr. Miguel, >> I. >> Dr. I. >> Mayor. >> I.
>> Thank you. >> Nice. >> All right. Moving on to the approval of uh minutes. I'm going to defer to the uh attorney, our solicitor um who's present this evening. Um unfortunately, committeewoman Taylor
Walls is unable to uh vote on these meetings as they were uh meetings that took place prior to her being sworn in. There's two of us left. So, my recommendation would be to follow whatever advice you give, I guess, at this point. So, you should at this point
uh make a motion to table the minutes and you can approve them at the next meeting when you have uh a full committee. >> Okay. So, I'll make a motion to table the approval of the minutes for December 30th, 2025 as well as December 30th,
2025 closed. >> I will second that. >> Thank you, Mr. Miguel. >> I >> Dr. Taylor Walt >> I >> Mayor Horn >> I All right, moving on to the approval of the bills. I'm assuming we've all had an
opportunity to review the bill list, ask any appropriate questions to the people that we need to ask those to. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. With that said, may I have a motion to approve the bill list? >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the bill list, pay the bills. >> All right. May I have a second? >> I'll second that.
>> Thank you, Committee Taylor Walls. Roll call vote, please, Madam Secretary. >> Yes, Mayor. Mr. Miguel, >> I. >> Dr. Keller Walt. >> I, >> Mayor Horna, >> I. >> Thank you. >> Okay, moving on to staff and professional comments. Any comments from staff or professionals this evening?
>> Mayor, just one quick one. >> Wouldn't be a meeting without it. >> You're welcome. >> I simply want to welcome uh the new officers, Affinity and Kulick, to an outstanding team that we have here in Cinnamonson. Um, I know you're going to
do great and you have uh great leaders in that department that are going to make sure that that happens. So, welcome and best of luck to you. Thank you. >> See, that was fantastic. Okay, >> moving on to uh public comment. May I
have a motion to open public comment? >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you so much. May I have a second? >> I'll second that. Sorry. >> Thank you, sir. Voice vote. All in favor? I >> I opposed abstensions hearing none. Public comment is now open. Please come
forward. State your name and address for the record. >> Amy Narren 325 Lisa Way. Um I I was here last week when Dr. Taylor Walls was sworn in and I'm here again this week and I've noticed on both occasions, mayor, that you have refused to refer to her as Dr. Taylor Walls. You've called
her committee woman. You've called her Karen. You've called her M. Taylor Walls. You've not referred to Mr. McIll as committee man or committee member. Mr. M McIll as a professional woman and for all of the people that elected her, we would like you to refer to her as Dr. Taylor
Walls, please. >> Is it's Amy? >> It's Miss Ner. >> Oh, Miss Ner. >> Yes. Um, so actually I addressed >> Dr. Taylor Walls. >> Sure. Dr. Taylor Walls actually before
her swearing in and I specifically asked her if it was okay to call her Karen and I've done that on two two occasions. >> There's a difference between calling her Karen and referring to her as Karen. I I I believe we discussed that prior to any
comments that were made and I'm sure you could a agree with that. >> No, I definitely um um is it okay if I call you Amy? Is it okay? >> Yeah, of course. >> Amy, thank you very much for coming up and um definitely protocols are very very important. We want to make sure
that everybody's on the same page. So when anything that you see slips, thank you for holding us accountable as well. and we'll al we'll always have the discussion between us to make sure that we're all comfortable with how we address each other on top of here. So, thank you for bringing that to our attention.
>> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Hey, how are you? >> I'm good. >> Good. >> Yes, it has. >> That's it. Corey Richardson, 7:30 South Belleview. Uh I don't have any presentation stuff this time. Um but um
but last time I was here, you know, I I was talking about some things that yeah, didn't really apply to Cinnamon Township and stuff. Um more or less to the national picture. Um and I believe it was Mr. Seagris last time. He was like, you know, he agreed with a lot of it,
but he was like, you know, like what can we do about it? And I didn't have that answer. And that's absolutely fair question to ask, right? Like don't complain about something if you don't have an answer. Um or if you don't have a proposed solution yourself. So, you know, I've been thinking about a lot of stuff and then, you know, just seeing
the events of our country and everything like that and just the way things are going, you know what I mean? I've been looking into some options because I feel like one of the big issues that we have across the board in our country is
people not really having a say or a relationship with the government, right? like we don't actually have a say in anything that really happens, right? We're allowed to vote for the people, but as far as how our taxes are spent, what policies are out there, right? You
know, what what's being passed, the ICE raids and stuff going on, whether you agree with them or not, we have no say in that, right? And it's like our money is being spent on things that we just we we have no say in it, right? So, you know, when you our federal government's
floating around these ideas of democracy and freedom, right? And they send people like me to go into foreign countries and kill people in the name of democracy. And then we come home and we realize that that doesn't exist here, you know, it's it's a problem. Um so, but again,
focusing on a solution, right? Um there there are options out there now where we can have more of a form of direct democracy where we can give our input to the policies being made and stuff like that. Um in 2020 the United Arab
Emirates they held a fully they held their whole presidential election from their smartphones from a company called Cidle that gave them the biometric verification where it couldn't be hacked and everything like that. They held a full national election from their smartphones which means there is no
reason our government I'm not saying you right but it has to start here right opening a line of communication with our government the technology is here you know what I mean like everything going on we should there's no reason why we should not have some say I'm not saying
we need to switch to us having a direct vote in what you're having right now but like we can't send out polls and stuff directly to constituents and stuff like that like we can't we should be able to vote directly on these policies, right? Like, hey, do you want do should we spend, you know, $40 billion deporting
immigrants or should we spend $40 billion on something else? That's our decision to make, right? It's not the federal government's decision to make. At one time, it was. We didn't have those outlets of communication. The technology is here. It's been here, but
nobody talks about it. And it's like all these problems that you know our politician, everybody's dealing with could simply be solved through that communication. Ask us, it's our country. It's our money, right? Like it's, you
know, I I just don't understand like why nobody is talking about this. Like nobody Sorry. No, just for everybody's sake, I remember what you had proposed, but just kind of give some historical background to what you had proposed at the time. I remember what you said.
>> So, um, like just the last time when I came in. >> Yep. Yep. >> Yeah. I mean, I was just talking a lot about, um, you know, I've been noticing a correlation with, you know, how our economy keeps going up, right? Our GDP keeps rising, keeps rising, keeps rising. Yet somehow things in this
country for the everyday people keep getting worse, right? like we're we're dumping more money, right? We're paying more in taxes, this and that, right? We're we're doing everything. Yeah. Our suicide rate has gone up. Our homelessness has gone up. Our crime rate has gone up. Our uh you know, I I don't
even remember what it all was now, but I mean, pretty much all the worst things in our country keep rising, right? Like our GDP is going up, yet everything, all the bad things that they have to deal with that, right? It all it all trends in tandem with you know the so it's like
more money clearly isn't the solution right like we have all the money right we have the highest GD our you know our politician our federal politicians every they brag all the time right we have the highest GDP of every nation highest everything yet we have 70% of our country lives paycheck to paycheck more
than 50% of our country has less than $1,000 in their savings for 30 million Americans don't have health coverage 42 million million Americans are on food stamps. My family included in that, right? And it's like, so we keep talking about our our economy is booming yet
everybody out here is suffering, right? Like it's not adding up and we have no say in it. None. In 2026, the age of technology, how can I not have a say in what's going on? And obviously for veterans and stuff like it's and you're seeing a lot more veterans that are
starting to kind of come around to this because we have I've been hidden away from the world. The VA still takes care of me. I haven't had to live like everybody else, right? But my neighbors do, right? And I'm seeing this. My brothers do, my sister do, my sister does, right? My family does. They're all
struggling. And they all have good careers, right? You know, they did what they were supposed to do. They went to college. They did all they did all the steps. Yet, they are struggling to get by in the quote unquote greatest country in the world. Democracy, freedom. How is
this democracy? All I can do is vote on people and then people would just get to do whatever they want with our money, with our tax dollars and have no say in it. None. And it's like again at one time I understood that that was how it had to be, right? You know, when people
were trekking across the country to come to Congress and stuff, but that it's ridiculous now. Why why would we things still be that way? And I fear that like I our federal government they they have no plan for our future. No one is
governing for our future for my kids, my kids' kids. The country is divided, right? We everyone is aware of that. You know, we are but and that's nobody can pick a path for our country to go on. So every four years we're going this way. Then the next four years we're going this way. We're going this way. And
everybody just keeps spending our money, right? We have to keep borrowing money. We're $40 trillion in debt, right? We've no plan to repay it. Nobody has a plan. How are we going to pay that money back? No one's got a plan. Nobody knows what direction we're going, right? Are we
working towards being a true democracy? Are like what what are we working towards? Do we want people to work less and have more benefits? Like what is the plan for our country? And it's like everybody in the you know, I'm going I'm not talking about you guys, right? In the federal government, the people who
are really making the decisions that impact us, right? It's like everybody is just they're governing for the next four years for the hot topic right now. You know what I mean? Like what what what can I do to secure my future? Politics shouldn't right governing should not be
a career that is based on popularity, right? And that's what we're doing. It's just like people have no idea. It's like oh abortion's hot right now. Well, let's talk about abortion this and that. What like what what about the future of our country, right? Like what what about
that? You know, I'm just I'm just mind blown at the lack of leadership in this country. Nobody can get our country on the same track. And it shouldn't be that hard. These questions are pretty simple questions. Do you guys want to work less, have more
benefits, and have more time with your family? The answer is yes to why? How are we not on that path? Right? And it's like if we could vote on that, we could help steer the country in the right direction, right? And obviously
the federal, you know, last time I was here, you guys told me you're I'm past my five minutes. Um, last time I was here, you know, you guys were like, you told me you're like, "Take this to um, you know, like the the senators and stuff because it's out of our control." And I I agree. It was everything I was talking about was out of your control. I
mean, I tried to talk to the senators. You think they called me back? You think any of them talked to me? You think I even got an email reply reply? Like, who am I supposed to talk to? They're not going to listen. They have their own plan because they need to get the hot
topic into the headlines to make sure that they can get voted in for another four years and keep their job security. Politics, our governing, our governing government has become about fame and fortune instead of what is best for our people, right? The people of America. No
one thinks about us. It's like, dude, what, you know, oh, we're we're $40 trillion dollars in debt. Like, what what are we going to do? Who what what whose pockets what country's pockets can we reach into to start covering some of this deficit? Venezuela. All right. Right. Like, okay, I was a part of one
of those money grabs. I wasn't aware of it, right? None of us were. We're all becoming aware of it now and we're, you know, having a lot of trouble with it. But it's like, what is the what are we? And and I'm here today to ask you guys
right like can we start getting our country in a direction and what I'm asking for is a line of communication right between the residents of Cinnamonson and the township committee of Cinnamonson whether that just starts with you know building it you know there
there's plenty of software out there plenty of affordable things and stuff like that any one of these companies we can make yo let us try it for free and if it catches on whatever You know, there's plenty of encrypted messaging and stuff like that where we can have a system where you guys communicate
directly to us just through simple polls and you don't got to be texting me like texting us all day long, but like hey, what what is the biggest issue you guys are facing right now? Is it healthcare? Is it this? Is it that poll now you
know? Okay, maybe and then you guys can talk. All right, what can we do about this? All right, blow up. Okay, send out another message. Look, these are the few issue, you know, healthcare. We can do something about this, but it's going to look like this. >> Yeah, I think we Yeah, we got the I I think we got the idea. I'm not trying to
cut you off. I I just >> No, no, absolutely not that. >> Um I think what what and I speak for for my colleagues up here. I think why don't you kind of take this conversation and continue to have that with the
administrator? That would be the appropriate person to kind of have that doc. and that's Eric Schubiger right here. Um, and just kind of start to continue to have that dialogue. But I would also say this is the place >> where having that interaction can start, right? I mean, you were here. I don't
know if it was last year. It may have been two years ago >> um to kind of start to do that, right? And now and now you're back again, but this is the place to kind of start that, right? So, I we hear you. understand um the administrator would be the
perfect person to kind of start to I should say in this case continue to have that dialogue with. >> U what does that look like? What do you want me to do? >> Yeah. >> Just email you or something like set up a time. >> I mean I mean if you want to leave your number with the clerk uh and then I can
make sure I reach out to you in the next couple days. We'll chat. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Richardson. your comments. >> Hi, Mona Washington, 908 James Avenue. Good evening. >> Question. >> Yes.
>> Does Cinnamonson have a particular protocol for our schools in the face of ICE agents and federal intervention? I've been teaching in Philadelphia. Some of the schools, those with larger
rather than smaller immigrant populations, have specific protocols? A, do we have them? B, do we need them? And C, if we don't have them, what are they going to be? And D, do you need public
input? Yeah, I can answer that. I I think as long as you're okay. So, that would be a question better served to the school board. We don't have oversight over the schools. The school board is who governs what happens in the local schools.
>> Yes. But >> because I and I say that because I know they do have a policy. My wife actually is a teacher and there was a policy that was sent out to to the districts or to the teachers in the district. >> Okay. But to whom does the school board
report legally? >> Not to the township. >> The state of New Jersey. So the elected representatives would be our state senators. That those would be the people >> the school board members. >> Yeah. The school board members >> they're elected. >> I know they're elected but still when
there's liability to whom does the school everybody has to obey the law? So state federal what happens if the school board school >> does something own body corporate >> uh
>> under the law >> I'm sorry >> so under the law it's his it own body corporate so which means it's its own entity >> right but it's still subordinate to >> the New Jersey Department of Education >> state law excuse me >> New Jersey department of education
>> that's not the town that's in the >> I understand it's not >> but federal law everything's under federal law. >> I understand locally what you're saying. >> Yeah. >> But if there's a problem, are you saying that there is no like there's nothing
that can be done aside from the school board in terms of schools? >> Now, you asked if there was a policy in place. >> Policy. So, let me be more specific. >> Does Senson have the authority to stop ICE agents in its schools?
Are you asking me the cinnamon school board has the the >> municipality >> to stop ICE agents from running? Again, that's because it's schoolboard property. It's not it's their property. It really is best directed at the school. They have policies and procedures in place. Um they do work
with local law enforcement for that purpose. But >> but if they are in front of the school, can sentiments stop them >> from entering the school, >> can the school board? >> No, not the school board. >> Well, it's the school board's property. So, I think that's the I think that is the question you're asking. That's why I said >> no, not really. I'm asking if ICE agents
show up >> and they're in the street in front of Camentson High School and it's clear they're about to go into uh public school property, but they haven't yet, at least in theory. Does Cinemanson
have the right locally to stop them in the local streets in Cinnamentson before they invade anything? You know that we cannot interfere in this other law enforcement >> particularly federal. >> There are things in place between the
schools >> with the uh the attorney general and our policies and and in reality ICE will not be going to the schools.
>> Okay. If there is a demonstration in Cinnamament, not on school property, let's say there's a demonstration in Wood Park, are there any specific protocols if people say something are going to be
shot? I mean, basically, how do we avoid what happened in Minnesota? >> Don't interfere with that person. >> Okay, I hear you. I mean, >> that sounds good. I mean, I don't know. I I say this because things are getting
worse and worse and I'm a lawyer and I have people calling me and I keep saying, "Yeah, the law says this, the law says that." It has to be interpreted. Okay? So, I completely agree with you. You have to obey the law. The issue isn't obeying it. It's
the application. So, you can say don't demonstrate or you can say >> I'm not saying don't demonstrate, but the problem is when you interfere with law enforcement doing their job, then becomes a >> I agree. I agree. >> So with like with regardless of what law enforcement agency you have
um never interfere and if your constitutional rights are being violated then you can do a 1983 class action suit and that's how you you fight by physically getting interfering
>> other tech where problems come. I agree with you and that sounds good. Let me just make a suggestion to the extent that it comes up and any citizens are thinking like this. Is it possible to have a meeting or for people to come here and suggest ways in which the
police can talk to the community so we make sure that we are not interfering with your job? Good. >> It's like community forum or something like that. She ask >> I personally I mean I'll
I'll spearhead that. Okay. Okay. I'm not at all disagreeing with you. People are being killed in the street and after the fact it's too late. I don't want that to happen here. Okay? And people say, "Oh, I can't believe that happened in my town." I can I'll
talk to you after. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. No one else. >> Okay. Seeing no one else come forward, may I have a motion to close public comment? >> Make a motion, Mr. Mayor, to close public comment. >> Thank you. I will second that. Voice
vote. All in favor? >> I >> I opposed. Abstensions. Public comment is now closed. Any comments from committee members this evening? Done. >> I'd like to uh echo sentiments of um Mr.
Shoeiger and congratulate the two new officers on board. You got a uh class A act with this department and uh welcome aboard. They're good. They're good guys. >> Thank you. Committee man Gil.
>> Uh may I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> I'll make a motion to adjourn a meeting. Mr. Mayor, >> may I have a second? I'll second that, Mr. >> Thank you. All in favor, voice vote. I I opposed abstensions.
>> Meeting is adjourned. Next meeting is Monday, February 2nd, 2026 at 6:30 p.m.