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Part 1 (Video ID: P8lk9N0jCOI):
- 00:00:23: Meeting Call to Order, Pledge, Minutes Approval
- 00:03:54: Resolution Authorizing Redevelopment Study Discussion & Approval
- 00:06:38: Public Comment - Westfield Avenue Redevelopment Traffic Concerns
- 00:10:30: Target Drive-Up Expansion Site Plan Application Presentation
- 00:26:24: Target Drive-Up Questions from Board Members
- 00:28:19: Target Drive-Up Application Approved
- 00:29:07: Planner Requested for Summary of Affordable Housing Applications
- 00:32:58: New Board Member Appointed & Old AMP Parking Lot Rusting
- 00:34:40: Meeting Adjourned


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Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Welcome to the Clark Clark Township Planet Board meeting Thursday, May 7, 2026. This meeting is in compliance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 PL1975 as adequate notice of this meeting has

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been provided by mailing the annual schedule of meetings to the star ledger the leader and the uni county local source by posting such annual meeting schedule on the bulletin board and town hall reserve for such announcements the official website of the township

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hourclark.com in compliance with PL 2025C72 effective March 1st 2020 26 and the proper filing of said notice. Formal action may be taken at this meeting. This meeting is a judicial proceeding. Any questions or comments must be

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limited to issues that are relevant to what the board may legally consider in reaching a decision and decorum appropriate to a judicial hearing must be maintained at all times. I'll do roll call. Mayor Albanese >> here. >> Mr. Alwick.

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>> Councilman Maniti >> here. >> Mr. Cotch >> here. >> Mr. Steinberg Mr. Alman >> here >> Mr. Gri >> here >> Mr. Gronowski >> here >> Mr. Gersonner >> here >> Mr. Cecil >> here >> Mr. Fiser >> here >> Mr. O Connor >> here.

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>> Please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for its oneis. Has everyone had a chance to read the minutes of our April 2nd, 2026 meeting?

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>> Any questions, comments? Seeing none, I make a motion to approve and a second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Bill. All in favor? >> Any nays? Extensions. Thank you. Going on to correspondence. All

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correspondence to the board is available for the public for review at town hall at their pleasure. As such, I'd like a motion to dispense with the readings of the correspondence. Have a second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Mike. Site plan application. Target Corp, 45

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Central Avenue, block 70, lot 28.01, drive up expansion. >> Kevin, um, their attorney is running a little bit late, so can we switch and do the resolution first? Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. >> No, you you sat down. Joe Ventur with Kimley Horn. Our attorney is on the way.

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Uh, she got into a not she, but there was a car accident on the way here, so she got into a bit of traffic. She's going to be here by about 7:40. >> Okay. >> All right. Resolution authorizing redevelopment study. Resolution authorizing the undertaking of a preliminary investigation determine

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whether the properties identified as block 77, lots 78, and 9, 191, 195, 199, and 205 West Avenue. and a tax map of the township of Clark qualify for designation as an area need of non-comdinomation redevelopment.

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>> Is our planner here to discuss this with us? >> Is not here um because we're only authorizing the study. We're not actually the hearing will be next month. Um, I don't know if Alex or Richard wants to give a >> At the last meeting, the council uh

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adopted a resolution uh directing the planning board to undertake a study to determine whether uh should be designated as an area in need of redevelopment. And this resolution is just uh authorizing the board planner to

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undertake that study. >> Are these four properties currently under the same ownership? I do not know that. Mayor, >> have they come to us with a preliminary concept or anything? Or

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anyone else have questions or comments? Okay, seeing no questions, can I have a motion to approve or deny the resolution? Make some. I make the resolution. I make the motion to approve. Do I have a second? >> Second.

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>> Matt. >> Yep. Thank you, Matt. >> Mayor Albanesey's. >> Yes. >> Councilman Maniti. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cotch. >> Yes. >> Mr. Alman, >> yes. >> Mr. Gri, >> yes. >> Mr. Gronowski, >> yes.

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>> Mr. Gersonner, >> yes. >> Mr. Cecil, >> yes. >> Okay. Authorization for study approved. >> Okay. Continuing on public session. Anyone from the public wishing to come forward to discuss any matters that the

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board has purview over, please do I will be at this moment. I make a motion to open the meeting to the public. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mike. All in favor? >> I. >> Any abstension? Any nays? Anyone from the public wishing to come forward?

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Please do so. State your name. Dillia Collins, Clark. I just have a question regarding Westfield Avenue and its redevelopment. Um, I didn't have a chance to read anything within the last day or so

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regarding um any traffic studies that have been done on Westfield Avenue because as of right now, it appears that there'll be five uh projects going on Westfield Avenue in the near future. And with these four

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homes on Westfield Avenue that are proposed to go into redevelopment >> and Westfield Avenue is a county road if I'm correct. >> That's correct. Each application that comes before the board typically has a

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traffic study that's done and they'll the traffic expert will come forward and tell us the difference between the existing conditions or the existing operations that are there and what the future ones will bring to the area. And

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typically um they've shown that it's negligible increase or almost the same from the old operations that were there previously. Anybody coming before us in the future would have to do the same thing. >> Okay. And that traffic study is that

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done by I know the development do their traffic study. >> The applicant does the study for their particular site that they're coming before the board to get approval of. >> Do we challenge it or do we bring our own expert in? >> Sorry for stepping on you. We have a

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traffic expert on the board that typically reviews the traffic study and offers us comments regarding any questions they may have. The board also will ask questions of the expert coming before us um about how they came to

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numbers, why they want to use a different number than we're used to or anything like that. >> Right. Is there any plan? I mean, is there any um schedule as far as people are asking, not online, but people come up and ask when are they going to start

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the redevelopments of certain developments and you know, one across the street from the other, the one at Brandt and Westfield Avenue and further on down the road. Um, you know, I don't know if you folks are here during the

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day. You may be out of town working. It's not pleasant going down Westfield Avenue in the middle of the afternoon when school's let out and you know you're going to have construction vehicles. I see they're starting to do

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some work at the uh funeral parlor. Is there any kind of schedule known to to the town or is that up to >> Well, the applicant has to find that out or >> the applicant has what three years

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before they have to actually have the construction. >> I mean, typically the the construction is at their own schedule within the time period that they're allowed. Um, and that's not really something the board this board would necessarily have. Uh you might have things from the building

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department or otherwise that show you permits they've applied for. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anyone else wishing to come forward? Seeing none, I make a motion to close the meeting to the public. I have a second. >> Second. >> Thank you, Bill.

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Is Target fully present now? All right. We'll hear the site application site plan application for target corp 45 central avenue block 70 lot 28.01 drive up expansion. >> Good evening everyone. Amy Ferrell with Kathleen Stewart. Thank you for your

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patience. I appreciate it. Uh this is as you indicated the um site plan application with uh minor variances related to the target drive up application. Um I do have with me this evening uh Joe Ventura with Kimley Horn.

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Is that better? Okay. I'll ask um Mr. Ventura once he gets set here to please identify himself and and uh have him sworn. If you would please Joe, provide your name and business address for the record. >> Uh yes, my name is uh Joe Vanto and I'm

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with Kimley Horn. We're based out of a 301 Carnegie Center uh sweet 202 in Princeton, New Jersey. And I've um been practicing for about seven years. Uh and my license is in good standing and I have presented in front of multiple boards across the state. >> Let's get you sworn in. >> Oh, sorry.

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>> You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So help you God. >> I do. >> All right. You're sworn. Make a motion to accept. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? >> Uh,

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please proceed. >> Thank you. >> Joe, if you would please just uh for the board, we have uh up on the screen now. I just want to confirm for the record uh this is the plan set that we would mark as applicants one. This is the plan set that was submitted uh by your office

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dated February 12th, 2026. Is that correct? >> Yes, that's correct. >> And did you oversee preparation of these plans? >> Yes, I did. >> And if you would please uh starting at sheet C uh 1.0, which I believe is the next there we go. Um, if you could just provide generally for the board, um, and

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I'm sure the board is familiar with this site, so I don't think you need to go into too much detail, but just generally for the board existing conditions relative to the to the target, particularly as it relates to this application, please. >> Sure. So, um, as the board is most likely very familiar, this is 45 Central

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Avenue, uh, known as block 70, lot 28.01. Um, this property is home to the Target standalone store as well as multiple other uses on the site, a strip mall, a Marshalls, um, and other similar uses. The existing Target is located plan

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north on the property and the property itself is um, surrounded on 3/4 of the sides by existing streets. So, plan East is going to be Central Avenue. Plan South is going to be the Garden State Parkway. Plan West is going to be Gibson Boulevard with uh residential properties

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beyond that. And plan north is going to be uh additional residential properties as well. And the property itself has access only along Central Avenue uh via two um main driveway uh entrances and exits. Um, in addition to the driveway

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access along Central Avenue, the parking on site, uh, the parking on site existing has a count of 789 spaces. Um, and there are currently 12 drive-up spaces that have, um, double-sided. Um, they're kind of like rolling mobile

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drive-up signs at them. Um, and they are not currently striped with the loading areas or no parking areas for drive up. um as well. >> Turning then to sheet 2.0 uh which shows those proposed uh some of the proposed existing conditions and the proposed

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improvements. Can you walk through more specifically what is proposed in terms of the drive up sort of permanent location please? >> Sure. So to start we are um taking away the six double-sided mobile signs that are on the left side of the screen where

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my mouse is. So, we're taking those away and those are going to remain as standard parking spaces. And then the one parking aisle over it, we are going to be restriping um 18 standard parking spaces into 12 total drive-up spaces.

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The reduction from 18 to 12 is due to the addition of the loading aisles between the spaces to allow for um cart deliveries and loading and unloading of the cars themselves. Not only are we proposing these spaces there, we also are proposing some lighting improvements. There is one existing

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light pole uh between the spaces here that we are kind of um relocating a little bit further plant south just to further align within that loading aisle there as well as keeping in mind that above it there is an existing inlet that we are to remain in place to be

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protected. And then as well um another uh light pole as well towards the bottom kind of bookending the drive up um spaces. These light poles proposed are um 27 feet in height to keep with the um existing lighting on site to match the existing theme with everything. And then

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that's the lighting improvements. We are also proposing some signage on site. Um, and the signs we're proposing is we have six double-sided uh post and panel signs at the head of each of these spaces on either side. They're going to

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have the space number and the logo. And um those signs are 5 square ft in area and 6 ft in height. Uh the additional signage we're proposing is two internally illuminated uh solar beacons also bookending the spaces. one up here

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in this loading aisle, one down here in this loading aisle to help identify to pedestrians and drivers accessing the site where the drive-up locations are. And finally, we are proposing an ADA ramp for access here for the personnel from Target to make their way down with

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addition of a crosswalk stop bar um and additional um stop signage for pedestrians. Can you speak a little bit to why the decision was to um to relocate the drive up stalls to this permanent location uh

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and and the decision around uh 12 stalls uh how you arrived at that as the appropriate number? >> Sure. So um this is kind of an expansion of Target's um very very successful instore pickup program. Customers now have the option of ordering through an app online, having the purchase

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purchases directly delivered to their vehicle instead of going into the store. Um, we see this all around in retail, restaurants, uh, grocery stores, um, for them to deliver to your car. Um, this increases the efficiency, so people aren't wandering the parking lot trying to find the customer, for the employees

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to come out and deliver everything. Allows for quicker delivery times, and it also increases the safety for the customers and the employees. Um the area is clearly marked so other customers traversing and parking areas recognize the difference and navigate around the area with more awareness. Um also

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employees can come and go from the area more efficiently and safely. >> And I I think you you you sort of alluded to this relative to the um the discussion related to the crosswalk that you're adding um and the curb cut along the drive aisle there. Is that intended

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to tie into an access point that employees are already presently using in the building? Uh yes. So right right over here there is an existing um door that was um handled under a separate application where the team members currently leave the building and in the

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current condition they would come here, cross the street here, deliver the items and then walk back. In the proposed condition, they would come here, walk along the sidewalk safely through the crosswalk and then down to the spaces here. Um and you you spoke a little bit about this

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relative to the um the kind of operation of the uh the the drive up program itself. Can you just give a little more detail around sort of how that's managed particularly uh from the target employees perspective and how that um uh the app etc works in order to control

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access to the site use of the uh those spaces etc. >> Sure. So, the the app itself is um it' be on your phone as the uh pedestrian or the um user of the app and you would order through the app online what you'd want to order and then Target would um

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let you know when your order was ready for pickup for you to go to the store and pick it up. Um and then they would give you a time window of when you should be able to go and pick it up. Target has the ability within this app to kind of stagger those delivery windows so that way everyone is not coming to the spaces at once and it's a

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mishmash there for lack of a better word. Um, but they're able to space that out and provide uh better pickup windows for patrons to come. They get go into the the space that they're identified at. They click on the app that they are there. The employee gets notification.

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They come out, put the items in the car, and then you're on your merry way. And are the hours of operation for the drive up consistent with the hours of operation for the store? >> Uh yes, it's the same hours of operation.

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>> Um now you you did indicate uh earlier that there are 789 existing spaces on site. Um and as a result of this that we're uh we're reducing from 18 existing parking spaces down to 12. So obviously

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a reduction of six spaces. Um there was a prior approval uh to allow for the parking in its present configuration um and also at 9 by 18 ft. Can you speak a bit to uh the reduction in parking, the

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need for that reduction and whether you have any concerns relative to the loss of six additional spaces? >> Uh sure. So um I there short answer is no. We don't have any additional concerns regarding the loss of six spaces. So, as you previously stated, um the existing parking on site is 789

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spaces. There was a previous approval for 790 spaces on the site. That one space discrepancy was due to just some ADA parking from a prior application that was not um matching. So, the existing site on the existing count on site is the 789. We're proposing the 18

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spaces be restriped into 12, bringing it down to the 783. Um, and with that reduction, again, we don't see any concern with that as there is ample parking on the site. Um, and the exchange for the loss in parking increases the customer efficiency of those spaces. For customers that would

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otherwise park in the site, park in the spaces, leave, go into the store for 30 minutes, 45 minutes to an hour, you know, walking around Target. Um, they would go into the spaces themselves, get their items through that window, and then be on their merry way. So, it would be a much quicker um, turnaround time.

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Um, furthermore, the target is around that the drive up pro program doesn't necessarily create new customers coming to the store. It would be um an add-on for existing customers to use and increase efficiency for their travels.

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>> And will the location of these permanent drive up spaces in any way impact the ADA uh parking spaces currently on site? >> They will not know. The existing spaces are located off the screen plan east and then around the uh corner of the building as well. So, it will not impact those.

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>> And this is not um it's also located in a in a a portion of the parking lot that's not immediately adjacent to the main entrance to the store. Is that right? >> Yeah, that's correct. >> Turning then to sheet 3.0 if you would.

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Uh this has a little bit of detail relative to the drive up um striping details and the signage. if we can walk through and and you did testify a bit to these signs earlier. If you could just sort of walk the board through those proposed signs in more detail, please.

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>> Sure. So, um as I previously stated, we have the two types of proposed signs on um the scope of work. So, the sign on the left is going to be the double-sided um directional sign on either side of it. It's going to have this drive-up logo with the number of whatever space

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it is that you would identify on the app that you're pulling up to and parking in. space 1 2 3 four or five and the area for these um signs on both sides of it is five square feet in area. These signs are 6 feet in height. Um and back to the area while the area being 5

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square ft um in area per the ordinance as well for directional signage it is a maximum of three square feet in area. So that's one of the variances that we would be requesting for. Um additionally the sign on the right is the um solar powered beacon that kind of bookends the

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uh driveup areas. Uh these beacons are 12 ft in height and the associated sign area is included to just the driveup logo here and the car logo there for an area of four square ft. So again that four square ft uh being greater than the 3 square ft uh per the ordinance. These

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are also uh solar powered beacons. They have the solar panel on top. These are purely um placed in their configuration. No direct power stored to and from the building powered solely by the um by the solar panel itself. So the those beacons that you're just

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talking about, those do have an internal illumination component. It's not the entire um pole. Is that correct? >> Yes, it's uh it's not the entire poll. It would be just the drive up terms, the white drive upwards and then the um the car in the white on top. >> And the post and panel signs, the signs

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to the left uh that indicate the stall locations, are those illuminated? >> Those are not illuminated. No. Does the height uh or location of those beacons in any way impact lighting on site or security uh cameras etc on site

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in the parking lot? >> Um no when um putting together this location plan target also takes into account the location of the security cameras on site. So the beacons are placed in such a way that they are small enough that they won't impact these excuse me the security views and um the camera angles can also be adjusted as

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needed once they're installed. Um, now you indicated that these are these beacons in particular are somewhat self-contained. There's no um no additional electricity for example that needs to be run anywhere else on site. Is that correct? >> That's correct. Yes. >> And are there any changes or modifications to the building, the

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interior of the building that are necessary in order to operate the beacons? >> Nope. No changes to the interior of the building. Now, you did note uh that we were relocating one of the existing uh light poles on site uh and adding a second uh

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and that those are proposed to be 27 ft in height uh whereas the ordinance I believe allows for 20 ft tall um light poles. Are these light poles consistent with the other poles that are already on site? >> Uh yes, they're cons they'd be consistent with what's on site. Um the

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intent is to match um across the board what's existing. Okay. >> And we did receive uh review letters uh from township consultants. Were there any items in the review letters that uh needed to be addressed or modified

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relative to uh the plans as submitted? >> Uh no. We received review letters from Mr. O' Conor um as well as um two letters from um the fire official uh Mr. Sarasa and the um uh police department

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from um Detective Weber. and we take no issue with the comments in these letters. >> I don't have any further questions. We're certainly happy to answer any questions that the board might have. >> So, the customer doesn't go into the store anymore. He just drives up and he's there. >> That's correct.

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>> Does the app or he text I guess the number stall he's in and they come out to the car for him or >> Yeah, the the app would tell you. >> Um, do you know what the time for pickup verse actual time they would have spent in a store? roughly would be

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>> I believe the average turnaround time from Target um across the um the nation was about two minutes from point of when they're in the in the stall itself on the app they come out and get their items and go. Um I don't have the data for the average trip in the store handy but I mean I myself personally I've

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spent quite a bit of time in Target more than two minutes. >> Um I guess the the next question would be do you know the percentage of because that's a very nice turnaround time. um turning around of parking. Uh do you know the percentage of shoppers that are

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turning to this app app yet or roughly? >> I don't have that knowledge off the top of my head. No. >> Okay. Um but overall, you mentioned earlier that Home Target has been successful uh with the home delivery um

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mimicking other big businesses. that certainly reduced the number of spots that you're required or need to run the store efficiently. Would you agree with that or >> Yes. >> Anyone else on the board have any questions or comments?

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>> Yes. Um will be will there be any other signage outside of this area directing drivers towards this area so they could find it easily? >> Uh outside of this area, no. It's limited to the the the area of the spaces themselves. Is there will it be visually easy to spot when driving down

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the the central area? Okay. >> Yeah, there again they're about they're about 12 feet in height. So during the day the bright red you can see it and at night the internal illumination helps as well. >> Understood. Thank you. >> Overall the way business is operating now I see this is a highly approvable

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application. Um as such I make a motion to approve this application. Do I have a second? >> Second. All >> take a roll call. >> Mike. Yes. Sorry. >> Okay. Mayor Albanese. >> Yes. >> Councilman Meniti.

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>> Yes. >> Mr. Cotch. >> Yes. >> Mr. Alman. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gri. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gronkowski. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gersonner. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cecil. >> Yes. >> Application approved. Thank you everybody. And again, appreciate uh your willingness to shift things around for

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me this evening. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Moving back to the agenda. New business. >> U Mr. President, I did confirm that that individual that's requesting the um evaluation for the designation in area

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of a need of red non-comdevation uh owns all the properties but does not have a plan at this point. >> Okay, back to new business. I was wondering if we could have our uh planner provide the board a summary of the affordable housing applications to

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date. um include information such as variance requested given, parking type required, parking type given. Um using this information to then re-evaluate the zoning or ordinances to see if any tweaks should

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be made. Um, some of my concerns are that it came out at one of the last meetings that we don't have a requirement for the commercial space that is being required to be put into uh the properties as they're developed. Um,

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a lot of the developers as was brought up by our public earlier was that parking um a lot of the experts come forward and say there's street parking. We're going to have a number of developments in West South Avenue and um

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we maybe should be getting a little more in-depth review of the parking requirements. Um just some thoughts I was having. Anyone else on the board have any thoughts or comments on similar request? >> I agree with you. I think that we need

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to have a little more idea what's going on. There's a lot of stuff going on. I don't think we're I don't think I think knowing and seeing everything in front of us would be much more helpful. >> Yeah. I I can agree too. I think seeing a lot of this stuff in front of us would be a good thing to have and just knowing

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what's going on and even re-evaluating some of it and seeing if there's anything we want to put before council for changes in ordinances or so forth to make our lives easier. >> Mayor, how would we go about getting our planner to do that if possible?

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>> Um, let me look into it. I mean, I don't know if the attorney has any um opinions on how we would go about that. I know that parking is a concern. We don't have parking lots there. >> I think someone should just call Paul and ask him to put together a little chart.

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>> So, >> right. >> Okay, we'll do that. >> Started this. There was >> That was a big deal with We had the one applicant in front of us who didn't have parking at all for and he said, "Oh, there's street parking." I'm like, "Yeah, right now there is, but we're in the >> um It is. I'm I'm just being sorry. Uh I

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just remember an applicant coming in front of us many years ago who had no idea he had a he had a business, but he was going to make Oh, he kept saying, "Oh, there's street parking." And I said, "Right now there is, but that's going to change with all the development going on there." So, yeah, I think knowing what what we can do and can't do will be helpful to the citizens of this

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town and people that go to shop around there. >> Yeah. And there's street parking, too. And it's that road. You can't park when it's snow covered. Like we don't have snow all the time, but it's a big thing. Like if we have snow storms like we did this year, we had heavy machinery in

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there to clear Westfield Avenue. Like where would the cars parked? So it's important to look into >> Well, during those instances, we have areas that are designated uh during the snow be so that it can get picked up. >> Yeah.

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>> I just add um I think that it's an important point being made by Mr. cotch because while these developers come up and they they do their traffic studies and their traffic plans, I don't is is there any oversight on all of these projects going on at the same time

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>> where Right. >> Right. Sounds like the board would like something like that. Um moving on to old business. Before we do that, I just want to mention that on Monday night, May 4th, this past Monday, um a new board member was appointed to the planning

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board to fill the open alternate position, Paul Alangi. So, um he'll be here at the next meeting. >> Welcome abstentia. >> Um old business. Um any I think those two big excavators sitting in the old

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AMP parking lot are rusting. Is there any development on that property >> as far as taking it down and moving forward? >> No. Um I believe they are buying additional properties. So I don't know what's going

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to happen at this point. >> Okay. Anybody else have any comments, questions? >> Oh, and let me let me just add as far as I know, they never closed on the bank. That's one one of the um sore points. >> So if they never get the bank property,

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that diverts back to the old approved approval for that property >> possibly. >> Okay. >> I mean, right now it's open. I think they just put that equipment back there. I It was removed and now the the

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equipment's back. Demolition equipment. the current approval for that property did not include the bank property. >> That's what I mean. Right. It was if the if they don't acquire the bank property, then it would revert back to the prior approval. That's all I'm saying.

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>> Not originally. >> Your redevelopment plan did, but the initial proposal did not. >> Um, the applicant is looking at additional properties in the area. >> Okay.

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Our next meeting is June 4th followed by July 9th and August 6th. I'd like I make a motion to adjourn the meeting. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? That was Bill? All in favor? >> Any opposed?

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>> Thank you for coming out tonight.

