I just want to clarify it's not --------- necessarily the property. If you see >> where the sidewalk where the sidewalk could be. >> Yep. This I won't talk into two mics. This black dotted line here is the property line. We're not actually cutting into the property. Um >> Okay. >> But yes, >> I'm sorry. Restating the curve that is
there will not be there anymore. It'll be moved over so that you can pull a car in otherwise. >> Correct. Correct. >> Okay. I just want to be clear. All right. Cool. >> That's why it is that is 18 ft then the way I was measuring it obviously. Okay. So that's one. Two. Um, if you go back, there's a stop sign on Harding and
Broadway. Was that Oh, sorry. >> That's okay. >> Yeah. So, right over here, that's a stop sign. Was that taken into consideration given that now we have an because before the egress was set more towards the center? Well, not center where the green
spot is here of the property. So, we were we were further away from the stop sign. So, so now you've got the stop sign there. You've got that. Was that considered in the flow? Yeah, I think looking at the property as a whole, one of the the major things as traffic engineers that we look at when, you
know, a street and a driveway or two streets aren't necessarily aligned, but they're relatively close um on a what I'll say vertical scale. Um is are the left turns hooking left turns? As in, you know, when you make a left and
somebody else makes a left, are they going to interfere with each other or are they not? how we have this driveway designed and honestly the entire property itself wouldn't allow for it. But what we think is a benefit is they would not be hooking left turns. Somebody could make a left out of the driveway and somebody can make a left
out of that street at the exact same time and and wouldn't have any interference with each other. >> Uh and that crosswalk that's reflected here, is that where the current crosswalk is? >> Correct. >> Okay. Has any consideration been given
towards um how to slow people down on Broadway because of that crosswalk given we have it today. People don't stop for that. So, I don't know if there's something that was considered cuz now you're going to have a car pulling out, cars flying by, and someone trying to cross the street.
>> We haven't looked into any specific um you know, traffic calming for that specific crosswalk on Broadway. Um, again, we have a lot of pedestrian um, enhancements as far as our property. Uh,
but we haven't specifically looked at that crosswalk on Broadway. No. >> Might I ask for it to be considered? >> Yeah. I mean, that's a municipal roadway. I think part of that probably is um
um the mayor and council and if if they're looking to slow down, but I mean we'd be more than happy to work in conjunction with the township to see if there's something we could do there. >> Yeah. And for that matter, the one on Lincoln is the same same issue. I think Lincoln has the I don't know I don't have the facts, but I know there's quite
a bit of accidents there. So um traffic study so done on Joseph was one done on Broadway for FLO because 20 years ago you're right it was there but 20 years ago there wasn't as much traffic in this town either. >> So have have you considered redoing a
traffic study for Broadway? >> Can you consider redoing a traffic study for Broadway? >> Yep. As as I mentioned before, we did traffic counts this year at both uh Joseph and Broadway and Joseph and Westfield. Uh we will submit those to the board for review, but again based on
our analysis um there was no significant impacts, but again we're more than happy to submit that to the board. >> It's just Yeah, I don't have any more questions. >> Okay. Yep. I'm sorry. Uh Carmine Soka, 46 Broadway. Uh Mr. Kennedy, I don't know
when you did your traffic on the Sunday because I can't even pull out of my driveway. 20 years ago with the AMP being there, I had no problems. Now with the AMP not even being there, uh 7:00 there cars are just stopped.
>> We our traffic counts were conducted actually I believe two days ago. I don't have the exact date, but we counted the intersection of Broadway and Joseph, I think two days ago, and then the intersection of um Westfield and Joseph >> cuz in the morning, it's crazy. You
can't you can't even pull out. >> I I understand. And again, we we did these counts within the last month. Uh we counted the real traffic volumes at these Monday through Saturday, >> Thursday or Tuesday through Thursday is typically when you would conduct traffic counts. That's when the volumes are the
highest on the roadway. that's when the the highest volume coming in and out of our site would be generated. Um and again we conducted those counts uh on a typical I don't again I don't have the exact day but it was a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. C
>> can I ask why those reports weren't handed in for the board to review because we've been a part of buildings much smaller than this and we've been able to analyze those numbers and if something of this significance between two rows that are very busy. I'm just
curious as to why that wasn't given to us earlier. >> So, our original traffic study was really a comparison memo between what existed on the site before and what is proposed. As part of the review letter, it was requested that we take a look at I think it was specifically the
intersection of Broadway and Joseph to get an understanding of what the traffic looked like today um and how the site would affect it. Obviously, we did those counts um and we're we're more than happy to submit it, but by the time we did the counts, there was, you know, there wasn't [snorts] enough time to
>> I just feel like the answers to the public would be much more coming from a point of confidence if you could say, "Hey, this is what we've seen. This is what we're projecting. Yes, it was a food store 20 years ago, but based on current buildings of this
size with this many occupants, this many vehicles, this is what we're projecting." because I know the sediment of the town is that it's going to be in and out, in and out, in and out, and it's not. >> Yeah. I mean, I have the >> But unless you have the information to show them, it's kind of hard because they're trying to believe you.
>> Absolutely. And I have the traffic volumes associated with this development. And I could list them off real quick. So, 138 unit residential development located in this area, not necessarily close to uh rail transit, not
necessarily close to bus transit. So, really essentially relying on single occupancy vehicles. In the weekday morning peak hour, which typically occurs between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m., your typical hour that people are leaving uh to go to work, we would generate 51
total trips. That's both in and out of the driveways. In the weekday evening peak hour, which typically occurs between 4 and 7 pm, again, typically people coming home, maybe leaving to run errands, we would generate 54 trips. So
138 unit development generates slightly over 50 trips in the highest peak hour. Obviously, the other hours throughout the day have traffic going in and out of them, but as traffic engineers, we look at the worst hour of the day. Um, so we would generate about 50 trips, >> right? So just so everyone knows that's
less than one car per minute based on that study. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That's trip gener that's trip generation, right? >> Correct. And that's from the it. It's >> I guess what people are asking is verification during your account that
Broadway or Wesville Avenue um the volumes of traffic that were going down those streets. >> Yep. I have those numbers as well. So, Westfield Avenue, sorry, Broadway in the highest peak hour has about
430 vehicles traveling eastbound and about 570 vehicles traveling westbound. So, call it about a,000 vehicles in the highest peak hour. Westfield Avenue is slightly higher than that. 550 or so vehicles traveling
eastbound and just over 630 vehicles traveling westbound. So closer to,00 vehicles total >> and we would be adding 50 trips to that number. >> Exactly. So, we would add the 50 total
trips to those existing volumes. Obviously, again, there's two driveways here and traffic would be dispersed. Not every car would go in the same direction. So, really what you're looking at is probably an additional 25 to 30 vehicles on Westfield, maybe an additional 20 vehicles on Broadway, but
really again, not a substantial increase in traffic when looking at the roadway network um in terms of the traffic that this site would generate. 800 to,00 cars. It's a lot of cars on that street.
>> That That's the existing traffic, >> right? That's existing traffic. I think that's what the people are pointing out and you know that because don't account. >> Anyone else from the audience >> 1100 cars for the three hours? >> No peak hour. >> That's in the highest peak hour. So one
hour. >> One hour. Yeah. >> Hi everyone. Uh, do I have to state my name again? >> Jackie Tamilo, >> 96 Ivy Street. Um, I just want to clarify the
redevelopment plan. Was that made after the approval on this property in 2021? There was a redevelopment plan before the approval uh and there was a redevelopment plan after the approval. The reapproval was I
believe in 2021. The approval uh this board approved it orally on May 6, 2021, memorialized it in a resolution on June 3, 2021. And the redevelopment plan, the amended
redevelopment plan was just adopted by the council this summer. >> So the angled parking was part of the summer redevelopment plan. >> That I Yes, that's accurate. Yes. >> Yes. Okay. Yes. Because I I tried to go
back to find the original plans for this property when it was proposed as 75 units. Um just to kind of clarify because at the time the bank lot was not part of it. >> Um so now that they've acquired the bank
lot and I believe at that time there as far as I was reading there was there there was confirmed no additional proposed parking along the roadways including Broadway. So at that time was
all of the parking within the limits of the property. >> Well, while it's useful to refer to the prior resolution, the board and the applicant has to deal with this redevelopment.
>> Yes. Yes. I I understand. I guess so. My question is, when you when you acquired the bank property, did you consider not putting in as many apartments and allowing for a little more parking for
retail and not even having to do angled parking on Broadway and Joseph Street? >> We're required by the redevelopment plan to provide angled parking space along Broadway and Joseph. So, we're complying
with that uh that redevelopment plan requirement. Um, let's see. So, you said that you you studied Westfield Avenue, but I just also want to bring up the point, and I don't know if that's a question, but
that there is going to be another 38 unit apartment across the street um very close to this property that from what I understand is also going to be entering and exiting onto Westfield Avenue. Um is that a qu maybe a more a question for
the board? Did you consider that additional building across? >> Yeah. Or do we know how how many they're proposing is going to be flowing onto Westfield Avenue in addition to what you're saying is going to be flowing onto Westfield Avenue? >> Well, obvious obviously a a proposed
development that's not built isn't included in our traffic volumes that we studied. Uh a 38 unit residential development, um obviously a 138 unit would generate more traffic. A 38 unit development is probably somewhere closer to 10 to 15 trips in the highest peak
hour. Um while it wasn't directly considered because it wasn't in our counts because it's not built yet, uh in my professional opinion, it would not have any substantial impact to uh how this development would interact with the roadway network or Westfield Avenue or
Broadway. >> Okay. Um, I did just want to bring up a quick point again about that jut out right at the corner of Joseph Street. Um, and that first angled spot. I don't know if
you want to try to just zoom back down. >> Sure. >> Sorry. >> Oh, sorry. >> Yeah. where people I guess are. >> So to me, this first spot looks very close um to
kind of where people are going to be turning. So, and I don't know, again, I'm sorry, I'm not a traffic person, but just limited sight lines and then So, you see no problems with that first spot kind of backing out as people are
trying to either turn left or right from Westfield Avenue. >> I don't. And I think one of the things that what we considered here is providing that bumpout. So where you see really the landscape and the sidewalk kind of come if you're looking down on
the page towards Westfield Avenue, that's what we consider the bumpout. And that's really the idea behind that is not only the pedestrian safety, but really it slows vehicles down as they're making a turn. Um so obviously we have to provide the 11 spaces on Joseph
Avenue and what we wanted to do is make it as safe as possible. So that's why we provided that that bump out. Okay. Um, I also saw that on the other what you have on the other side of Joseph Street, it just says concrete
curb, which is not technically what's there. You have another uh apartment building with an entrance, you have a house, you have the laundry mat, and then at the end of the street, you have apartments. Um, were those factored in
to the layout of these spots on J? >> Yeah, all of the driveways on that side of the street will be maintained. Uh, we're really only impacting or changing the the right side of the street. No driveways on that side will be closed. Everything will remain open,
>> right? No, I know that it's going to remain open, but again, as far as the flow of people flowing in and out of those as people are trying to back out of spots, >> you're asking about the interaction between our spaces and their business. Yes. >> Yeah. I mean, they're they're relatively
small buildings. Again, Joseph Street is a very underutilized like I would say street about 30 people travel on it travel along it on the highest in the highest peak hour. Um, and again, I I don't see a significant um negative
impact from the angled spaces on either the properties across the street or really the entire roadway network as a whole. >> Um, Mr. Manetti brought up the fact that um I believe it's Lincoln Boulevard is also the other one way. Now, this is
going to potentially be a one-way street. Um, I feel like this is going to push a lot of traffic that want to loop back around to Westfield Avenue onto Liberty Street. Um, so I just want to
clarify that there was no traffic study done to Liberty Street or Lincoln Boulevard. >> We we studied the traffic volumes along Broadway, along Joseph, and along Westfield Avenue. There will be a minor amount of traffic that's uh redispersed,
I'll say, throughout the roadway network. Again, about 30 people use Joseph Street right now. They would be dispersed throughout probably the closest two or three streets that connect Broadway and Westfield. Um, but obviously, as I mentioned, there's about
10 different streets that connect the two. I I I agree with what you're saying is Liberty is the closest. There is a signal there at at Broadway and Liberty. So maybe a majority of those 30 vehicles would use that. But again, there's a signal there. I don't think the 30
vehicles that would be utilizing Liberty instead of Joseph if all the vehicles on Joseph were pushed to Liberty would have a significant impact. A majority of the southbound traffic was right turns likely heading towards u the Parkway. Um and it wouldn't have a significant
impact on the interaction between Liberty and Broadway or Liberty and Westfield. Right. You you state that, but but like I said, I live on Ivy Street, so that whole neighborhood uses Catherine Street to kind of flood out to Westfield
Avenue. And right now, you have a hard enough time turning left from Catherine Street, then you also have people from Liberty Street t trying to turn left um with the flow of Westfield Avenue. So
if you're saying that all these extra cars from the potential of Joseph are now going to become trying to come out of Liberty Street to make Well, I guess they'd be making a right, which would be easy for them. But then if I'm trying to make a left, it's just
again I don't >> if I if I could help clarify. During the highest peak hour traveling southbound on Joseph Street, there was 30 vehicles that made a right, four vehicles that made a left. During the PM, there was 26 vehicles that made a right, one that
made a left. So, a majority of these vehicles are turning right. They get to the stop sign, they get looking at Westfield Avenue, and they make a right turn. A few of them make a left turn, but the amount of or the small amount, I guess I'll say, of traffic that would be added and dispersed throughout those 5
10 streets that connect Broadway and Westfield would not have a significant impact on uh on those intersections. Okay, thank you. >> Anyone else wish to come forward? Seeing none, um does the board have any
discussion before counselor makes his final statement? No. Counselor, your summation. Yeah. Just uh really briefly um as as the board has heard. >> Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Why don't you do that before?
>> Before you do that, I'm going to let anyone from the public wishing to come forward to have any comments, positive, negative, regarding this application, please do so. State your name and address. Ah, familiar face.
>> John Rafoa, 40 Broadway. Uh, look, I applaud the effort to come up with something to do with the space. We've all agreed it's been an eyesore for a while, and believe you me, no one knows more than myself and my brother-in-law. We live right across the street from it. However, we are changing the landscape
of Clark, right? We really are. And everyone here lives here, so you know how busy it is already. Imagine what it looks like today. Imagine what it will look like with another 138 units. And I understand traffic study. I get it. Let
put yourself in the shoes. Drive there on a Tuesday morning at 7:30 dropping your kids off. Try to get out of a driveway. Live through that. That's what what I would ask. So my ask quite honestly is for the town council to think through how can we improve traffic
in this town, right? You have a lot of kids in town. How do they get around without getting hurt? It's not a walkable town. And if we are to redevelop this downtown, it needs to be walkable. This is not walkable. It It will not be right. Um and we've had some
glimmers of hope, right? We've had some new units. Look, good projects, but I didn't even know about the other 38 units that are coming. So, again, fits makes sense. However, we re I you guys have to look at it, please. And if not, I'm you know, I'll give you my number.
We can talk through it. Um, parking placement will be an issue. So, given that cars are going not following the speed limits today, and I'm not talking 25 going 30. I'm talking 25 going 45. I'm on the street. Cars are on my tail.
Not cool. Not right. Not right. Something will happen. Get ready for it. Get ready for it. Between Lincoln and Broadway is a racetrack, right? It's how do I get from down by um Westfield A or you know down by Rawway. How fast can I
beat how fast can I go so I can beat the link the Liberty Light? That's what that is. That's what it is, right? Like it's a racetrack. It's a racetrack, right? Um and then the the last piece I would add, not to blavor the point because it is late for everyone and we all have day
jobs or most of us, right? um schooling. Make sure that we're considering that we know the state of status of our schooling today. We're at capacity. We're shipping kids across the town. That didn't happen 15 years. Well, 20 years ago when I moved here, that wasn't happening. You were designated. You were
good. Actually, it's 25 years ago that I've been here, but that wasn't happening. And it is now. So, how are we going to accommodate that? How do we find room in the budget or whatever to to make that a reality? because otherwise you're going to become you're going to it it's not going to be the Clark that we came here for. It's going
to be a bigger city. It's not walkable and we're probably a generation away from this going in the wrong direction. Right. So that's what I would ask you. That's the only comments I have. Thank you for listening. >> Thank you. >> Hi Eric Rodriguez Vortell. So just
a couple of questions. So well not questions comments. Um, so I know there was a discussion earlier about adding a crosswalk across Westfield A uh at the intersection of Joseph. Uh, it wasn't mentioned whether or not there would be some sort of like a yield sign,
pedestrian yield sign that someone might activate while trying to cross. So I was just saying, you know, that might be something to consider. And the only other thing is there was a lot of discussion around Joseph becoming a oneway and I think it was Lincoln being a oneway in the same direction. Uh, and
my comment was more if the the planning board might consider recommending to the town council that they consider reversing the direction on Lincoln so that people would be able to circulate around the block as opposed to having to go, you know, further several streets
down to be able to accommodate that. Um, and that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. I just have two points. >> You state your name and address. >> Oh, sure. Dia Colin, 72 Georgia Street, Clark. Um, the property on the corner of
of Joseph and Westfield Avenue at one time was a former gas station from what I've heard from former residents. Um, was there any research done to find out if there was remediation done to that
property before it was built upon by the bank? >> The bank application building was actually delayed because they had to remove an underground storage tank years ago. >> I'm sorry, I can't hear. >> When the bank expanded, we approved the application. It took them a while
because they encountered underground storage tanks and they remediate whatever they had to do, they did it in accordance with the D. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, regarding um stairways, I only see two. Um, I don't
know how many complete occupants will be in that building, but it seems to me that the stairways seem deficient for the amount of residents that will be living in >> There's actually three. >> I'm sorry. >> There's actually three.
>> Three stairways. >> Oh, where's the other >> the the one when they come into the lobby and then there's one on either side about twothirds of the way down. >> All right. I only saw the two on the sides. Thank you. >> Hello, John Greavves, 30 Parkway Drive.
Um, just really quickly, I, you know, I have some mixed feelings. I think I echo some of the concerns of the other residents, but I did want to just say, you know, thank you to the board, um, for, you know, pushing for that additional retail space. I think that's an important component of, you know, making the downtown what we hope it to
be and I just wanted to say thank you for that. Thanks. >> Thank you, Mr. Gre. >> Anyone else? >> James Skolo with 73 Holiday. I think this complex is really big. If you can downsize it on the back of Broadway that
allow like meter parking for future people to come into retailer space, that might help the town with getting money back to the town. And is the developers and renters going to pay taxes for schooling and roads?
The third question I'm asking. They'll either pay your traditional real estate taxes or enter into a financial agreement with the town pursuant to the local redevelopment law known as a
payment in lie of taxes. The significant difference is that under traditional taxes uh the breakdown is different than when you have a pilot program and a pilot
program 95% of the pilot payment goes to the municipality. >> Is there a way to get out of the pilot program? Cuz >> well it hasn't been even applied for. We're >> I know. >> I'm just saying if if it's eligible for that in the future if it it comes to that. The board hasn't even approved
this application is still considering it. >> So, and that's a question for the town council, not for the planning board. >> Well, you're this is a redevelopment for this space, but you're actually redeveloping redeveloping the whole town. So, the schools are crowded as it
is, and there's no AC in any of them. And I don't know if you've been in school the past two to three years, they're getting hotter. getting more people in it and the safety of their kids become first before adding 138 uh units that's around 300 people if you
add two people to a unit and I think the schools are not going to benefit. I moved here 10 years for the school system and it's going downhill. Thank you. >> Thank you >> Claire Leuno. uh 20 post. I guess my
general comment is I I and I understand like the first engineer that test testified, he did, you know, show what the like required setbacks were, what the re, you know, um requirements were.
It's just that the building is taking up 85% of, you know, the lot. And while I understand it is paved and there will be like the D required improvements for uh water maintenance or water storm
storage. Um it would be great if and maybe this is a town council thing. There could be something done about like lot coverages and maybe that's a way to that for the town to have like more say in what's going on. Uh I know people in
other towns that have been told you need to pull up your patio because your properties over the lot coverage uh uh that you're allowed to build on. So I think that's maybe something that needs to be looked into as a way for the town
to have a little more say and that we don't end up with such uh enormous buildings. Just one other thing to note is it was testified here that proposed buildings are not included in you know the information that they give you and
this is one of I believe like what three buildings being proposed uh to be developed along there. So when all these things that seem like this is negligible, negligible traffic, negligible on the schools, on the utilities, uh you know, is it
negligible? And I think if you look in like some of the surrounding towns, you'll see maybe that's really not the case. So that's all. Thank you. >> Thank you. Jackie Tamilo, 96 Ivy Street. Um, I just wanted to again kind of reiterate the
same sentiment as the first gentleman that spoke. Um, as well as Mr. Greavves that said that I do appreciate that you guys pushed for the additional retail. Um when I originally made notes about this um project and just the projects along Westfield Avenue in general and
the viable downtown um you know I just I'm getting a little lost on how a viable downtown is just a fourstory apartment building next to another fourstory apartment building
next to another four-story apartment building. Where are the stores? Where are the restaurants? What are we walking to? Um, when I bought my house being close to Westfield Avenue, um, I guess
almost eight years ago, I was excited at the idea of Westfield Avenue becoming something that I might be able to walk to and go get dinner with my husband and take my kids to, you know, and it's just been I've I'm It's very dejecting as a
resident to just keep seeing the same copy paste, copy paste, copy paste And especially this, I mean, I'm happy that maybe we might get a little more retail space, but again, it's like, well, consider it. What does that actually mean? Um, for us, it's um it is just
disheartening. I would love to see some more actual revitalization. I would have loved to have seen maybe we acquired the bank property. Maybe we didn't have to cram in more apartments. Maybe we could
have used some of that for open space for residents. Like Mr. Tria said, like what are we getting out of this? I'm not getting anything out of this except more of a headache trying to turn off Catherine Street and more kids in my
kids classes at school. So, um, again, I appreciate everyone's time tonight and, um, yeah, I just hope that I know that you guys have your hands tied as far as affordable housing, but, you know, at the end of the day, maybe we could have
lessened this 30, 40 apartments. How many affordable housing units is that really affecting? One or two? Um, I would just love to see some more actual improvements to make this actually more of a downtown like you said, like
Cranford or Famwood or Westfield. Um, thank you. >> Just as a point of clarification, it's an increase of nine affordable units, >> 30 apartments. >> Uh, it again referring as you have to
the prior approval, it was 12 affordable units. Now it's increased to 21 and it goes to meet the town's third round obligation which we the town is now in the fourth round and is trying to shore up the
third round so it can also comply with the fourth round. So that's a significant thing that the applicant has emphasized that there is a benefit to the town in the sense that it is the town it aids the town in
complying with its affordable housing obligation. [snorts] Um, so it's it's and those 12 units, additional units, if you multiply them times, uh, inclusionary zoning, uh, you're talking about, uh, really a total
of, I believe, 60 units if you if you do the math. So, uh, it's it's it is really it's a benefit and and it shouldn't be overlooked. >> If I can just em embellish that when when Mr. Cruz speaks to the third round, that's the round that's expired. Okay.
and the township is in a deficit. Um the town's in the process of of negotiating with state and fair share housing center. One of the elements at play is that the town's ability to address its prior round obligation was based on the
town receiving bonus credits, per se, units that aren't actually constructed, but the town gets credit for for the work that it did in a in previous years. And right now, if the town can't demonstrate the viability of of
Westfield Avenue to continue to produce units, um the ability of those surf those surplus credits to be eliminated still exists. So if that occurs, if those 32 credits would be eliminated,
approximately 160 units would have to be built to replace that deficiency. So, um, I can just say from a planning standpoint, I I I think everyone made some very valid points tonight. And a lot of this is is balancing a lot of
different in intangibles at at play here. And and I mean, the the developer did respond to your one of your concerns about adding that additional space, which would bring the total up to, I think, approximately 9,400 square ft of retail space, which is pretty
significant for uh an area. So just I just wanted to add that Mr. Cruz because there are some delicate matters at at hand right now. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else wish to come forward? Seeing no one counselor.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just really quickly to sum up, just want to emphasize that um the application before the board tonight is a fully conforming uh site plan application conforms with the uh amended and restated Westfield Avenue redevelopment plan with respect
to uh number of units, height, setbacks, number of parking spaces, location of parking spaces, impervious coverage, and every other sort of zoning requirement in the plan. Also, um, as was mentioned, um, this provides 21 units of muchneeded
affordable housing, um, for the region and, um, toward, uh, uh, Clark's fair share. Um, it also, uh, redevelops a a, uh, mostly vacant and, uh, dilapidated, uh, block, um, here in Clark. Um, with a
very well-designed, uh, new mixeduse building. Um, it also, as the traffic engineer testified to, generates very little traffic. I know there was a lot of discussion regarding traffic generally in the area and off-site traffic. That's not before the board. It's it's what this site generates and
the site generates relatively um little traffic. Um also uh just want to um emphasize that there were some concessions made by the applicant to address the concerns of the public uh during the course of this hearing. uh namely uh working with the county and
trying to um create more pedestrian friendly uh elements such as a crosswalk um on Westfield Avenue and also the uh addition of 3600 square ft of of new retail uh which will make uh the project that much better in terms of revitalizing u Clark uh and I just ask
respectfully that the board uh grant the approval this evening. Thank you. >> Mr. Chair, before you consider a motion um and deliberate, uh I would like to outline um some conditions uh if the board is inclined to grant this
application. Um initially, uh the applicant has agreed to comply with all of the board professional reports. Mr. O Connor's report of September 10, 2025. The fire department report of 11 9 11 uh25. The police department report of
91725. [clears throat] Mr. Ricky's report of 92525, Mr. Troutman's report of 92925. In addition to that, there are other conditions which the applicant has uh
agreed to. uh as Mr. Flanery just said that they would go to the county uh for a crosswalk uh on Westfield Avenue and while they have they would make that request to the
county and uh for the county's con consideration doesn't mean that it the county will accept it. It just means that the applicant will make that request. Um the affordable housing fees applicable to the commercial part of
this development will also be paid and as a result of that that payment increase because the retail space increased by 3600 ft. So that is then a contribution to the town's affordable
housing uh trust fund. The applicant has also agreed to consider redistributing the affordable units so they are less clumped together and more dispersed on each floor and on every floor.
The applicant is going to provide an amenities plan during compliance review consistent with the testimony that has been provided tonight. In addition to uh having a thoughtout plan, the applicant has agreed to increase the
retail space by 3600 square ft with a reduction of 12 parking spaces. Uh the applicant and the board planner have agreed that this reduction or this increase in the retail space and the
reduction in the parking spaces does not result in any deviation or variance from the redevelopment plan. The uh the location of the uh electric vehicle spaces will be addressed with the township engineer during compliance
review. During compliance review also the uh traffic signs on Joseph Street will be reviewed. Uh but that is ultimately a council res uh uh uh decision
and during compliance review there will also be consideration to uh traffic calming the devices at the corners. Um do you agree with these conditions Mr. >> So they also have to look at Broadway. >> Okay. What what are the streets that they're going to look for the
>> Joseph and Broadway? >> Okay. Joseph and Broadway. Do you agree with these conditions? >> Yes, Mr. Cruz. >> Okay. Um, just one additional comment. Uh, you've heard the term a fully
conforming application. What does that mean? That means following the ground rules that the council set. The applicant has to follow those ground rules and the planning board has to follow the ground rules set. The planning board doesn't have the choice
of making new rules. that was done by the council when they adopted the redevelopment plan. Uh so the applicant as Mr. uh Floundery did state have made concessions. Uh typically what happens is you judge
the application that was before you and there has been a substantial change to the application but fortunately doesn't result in any deviation or variance from the redevelopment plan. Um those are just my my general comments regarding
the application and uh the standard uh that you have to follow and the conditions that uh the applicant has agreed to. >> Thank you. >> So you can entertain a motion and and a discussion and and and uh anyone >> Mr. President, I'd like to make a few
comments just on what was said this evening. Um, first of all, I do appreciate the concessions and I know it's very late in the evening, uh, so I'll try to be as brief as possible. I do appreciate the comments that our legal counsel, Mr. Cruz, made regarding
this plan and the issues that the township is faced with, as well as what Mr. Ricky said, our planner and that is basically we had a master plan with a downtown village district. On top of that to accommodate the third round of
housing requirement by the state, we overlaid onto that the opportunity to build units that would achieve the goal of fulfilling the requirements that Mr. Ricky mentioned. Most towns, as you know, from all the
traffic in this town, have fulfilled their requirements and they are driving through this town. We are in a situation where everyone's done with the third round. We're pretty close to it. They're down to a handful of dozen or two dozen
uh units that they have to fulfill. We have a long way to go to fulfill the third round units and we do not want to miss out on those bonus units. and we're really on on a tight rope right now regard to that. Plus,
we now have the fourth round to deal with. So, this is just the beginning. I mean, this is we're going to have to deal with this. What is the issue? The issue is the state. Those are the people that you need to contact, state legislators, the governor,
and and that's really the what what has to be done here. So, I don't want to go on to it. But I I just want to mention a couple of other things. Uh the parking on Joseph and Broadway, which the council approved the modifications, as was mentioned several times by one of the citizens this evening, how are they
going to get out of their driveways? How are they going to deal with people parking that go to these retail stores that live or visit people that live in these apartments? That's why we changed the parking requirement. Okay? So, I hope that's clear. the angled parking,
the additional parking on Broadway. That is why we needed to do that. We don't have parking lots. We don't have the money to buy land to build parking lots at this point. It's not really a top mandate. One of the top mandates that we had in this town was let's get rid of
the old AM and put something there that will help this town. I do appreciate the concession that was made regarding the retail space, which was one of the original goals of the uh property development. Um, if anyone has any further questions,
we'll be discussing this, I'm sure, at the upcoming council meeting. Um, if you have any other concerns or questions about the affordable housing plan, be happy to talk to any one of you. You can call my number. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.
>> Anyone else on the board like to make a statement or comment? If not, would like somebody make a motion regarding this application? >> Um, what kind of motion? Motion to approve for conditions. Motion to deny. What? What kind of motion?
>> Be up to the person making that motion. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um, as stated, we have been given a set of requirements for this property and the applicant meets all those requirements. Uh, so I
make a motion to approve this application with the conditions our counselor has outlined. Do I have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Second. >> Any further discussion? >> Any further discussion regarding that? It's not a roll call.
Mayor Alanise. >> Yes. >> Mr. Olwick, >> yes. >> Councilman Meniti, >> yes. >> Mr. Cotch, >> yes. >> Mr. Triola, >> yes. >> Mr. Gri, >> yes. >> Mr. Gronowski, >> yes. >> Mr. Gersonner, >> yes.
>> Application approved. >> Thank you very much. >> We got public session. Yeah, >> breaking record since I got here. >> At this point, we're still in a meeting in session. If anyone from the public, >> excuse me, excuse me, we're still in
meeting. If you wish to have discussions, please leave the chambers. At this point, if anyone from the public wishes to come forward to make any comments to the planning board regarding any topics, please do so.
Seeing the all in favor? >> I >> I know those. Seeing no one come forward, I make a motion to close to the public. Anything second? Mike. Thank you. >> All eyes. >> I
>> Any nays? >> New business. I understand Mike Triola is leaving the board and I wish to thank him for his years of service to the board and the township. Thank you, Michael. >> We'll be sorely missed. I just want to thank everybody uh who initially uh
asked me to come on several years ago. It's been a blast. I've learned a lot. Uh thank you Kevin for guiding me. Thank you Albert for stopping me from saying too many dumb things. Um my only thing to the new members is, you know, don't be afraid to ask questions and and stick
with your your values. And to the public who's no longer here, show up. It it it makes a difference. It definitely does. So, thank you. >> Yeah, the number of questions people are asking of things that occurred 5, 10 years ago is amazing because they didn't
show up or pay attention. Any old business? None. Okay. Our next meeting will be January 8th, February 5th, March 5th. Next meetings. I make a motion to adjurnn. Do I have a second? >> Second, Mike, for your last time. Thank you. All in favor? I.
>> Any opposed? We're adjourned. >> [music] [music] Part: 2
[Music] Welcome to the Clark Township Planning
Board meeting, Thursday, December 4th, 2025. In compliance with the Open Public Meetings Act, chapter 231 PL1975. Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by mailing the annual scheduled meetings to the star ledger union county local source the leader formerly known
as Union County Hawk and tap into Clark by posting such annual meeting schedule on the bulletin boarded town hall reserved for such announcements and by the proper filing of said notice with the township clerk. Formal action may be taken at this meeting. This meeting is a judicial proceeding. Any questions or
comments must be limited to issues that are relevant to what the board may legally consider in reaching a decision and decorum appropriate to a judicial hearing must always be maintained. I'm going to take attendance. Mayor Albanese
>> here. Mr. Olrich >> here. >> Councilman Niti >> here. >> Mr. Cotch >> here. >> Mr. Triayola >> here. >> Mr. Alman Mr. Steinberg, Mr. Gri >> here, >> Mr. Granowski >> here, >> Mr. Gersonner
>> here, >> Mr. Cecil, Mr. Cruz >> here, >> Mr. Okconor >> here, >> Mr. Ricky, >> Jim Wner, and Mr. Troutman >> here. >> Okay. Can we stand for the pledge of >> allegiance?
Has everyone had a chance to read the minutes of our last meeting, November 6, 2025? If so, any questions or comments? >> Hearing none, I make a motion to approve. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mike.
All in favor? I >> I. >> Any nos? Opposed? Okay. Passes. Correspondence. All correspondence to the planning board is available at town hall for the public perview. They can come in during normal
business hours and review. As such, I make a motion to dispense with the readings of the correspondence. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Eric or Bill? Bill. Thank you, Bill. resolution to approve the meeting dates for 2026. Does there have any questions
or comments? I make a motion to approve those dates. Do I have a second? >> Bill, you? >> Nope. Eric. >> Thank you, Eric. >> I all in favor? I
>> Any opposed? Subdivision site plan application memorialization Primma Vera Park View LLC 7 act drive block 21 lot 17. Has anyone had a chance to review
the document? Any questions, comments? Seeing none, I make a motion to approve that. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mike. All in favor? Is this a roll call? A >> roll call. >> Yes. Mayor Albanese. >> Yes. >> Mr. Olick.
>> Yes. >> Councilman Niti. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cotch. >> Yes. >> Mr. Triayola. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gribb. >> Yes. >> Mr. Grankowski. >> Yes. >> Mr. Gersonner. >> Yes. >> Application memorialized. >> Our site application tonight is for
Clark Broadway Associates, 52 Westfield Avenue, block 105, lots 10 1.01, 01 22 21 22 and 26.01. I'd like to have counselor give an overview of this application and previous ones. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh this matter
originally came before the board on October 2, 2025. However, the applicant requested an adjournment until tonight, December 4, 2025. At the October 2, 2025 meeting, I announced that the application would not
be heard that night and that it was being carried to tonight without further notice. I reviewed the affidavit of publication and service for the October 2, 2025 hearing and find that the board has
jurisdiction to hear the application tonight. This application is governed by the redevelopment plan adopted by the township council and where the redevelopment plan does not establish a standard by the underlying downtown
village uh district ordinance. Uh by way of further background, this property uh and its potential redevelopment has uh been before uh the board uh previously. Uh the introduction to the redevelopment
plan for this property provides a history of uh the the redevelopment process. Um and I'll uh briefly review that. On June 4, 2018, uh the township council directed the planning board to undertake a
preliminary investigation to determine whether the Westfield Avenue study area, 81 Westfield Avenue uh and 52 Westfield Avenue uh uh at the corner of Broadway and Joseph Street met the statutory
criteria to be designated a condemnation area in need of redevelopment pursuant to the local redevelopment and housing law. Uh this board completed that preliminary investigation study and deter and held a public hearing on
August 2, 2018. At the completion of the public hearing, the board recommended that the township council designate uh the area as an area in need of uh condemnation redevelopment. The municipal council on September 17, 2018,
determined that Westfield Avenue, again, the same the same location, uh met the statutory criteria and designated it as an area in need of condemnation redevelopment. Thereafter, uh Clark Broadway Associates
LLC made an application for preliminary and final site plan approval. On May 6, 2021, the board held held a public hearing on that application and granted approval on June 3, 2021. That approval was memorialized
by the board in a written resolution. That approval including included residential apartments with 12 affordable units to meet a portion of the township's third round affordable housing obligation, which apartments uh
would be over retail space. However, that approval was not constructed and a portion of the township's third round affordable housing obligation was not met. Since then, the bank building at the corner of this L-shaped parcel
became v vacant and has remained vacant, allowing the township to reconsider the scope of the area uh as an area in redevelopment. Uh on June 21 of this year 2025, the township council I'm sorry um
that approval has remained dormant. Uh but there is a further step and that step is that on June 21, 2025, uh the township council introduced ordinance 2025 proposing an amended and restated redevelopment plan for the property. On
August 7, 2025, the board found that the amended redevelopment uh to be substantially consistent with the master plan. The purpose of of my reciting this this history is to indicate that this property has been under active
consideration and review by both the township uh council and the planning board. Uh and uh prior to tonight, uh a portion or all of this property has been before both bodies in public hearings uh
and public meetings uh twice to study whether the area was in need of redevelopment. uh twice to review redevelopment plans once before this board for preliminary and final uh site plan approval. All of these actions have
been in public and have been with public participation if uh the public so desired. Uh again the point of this presentation is not to bore you but to describe to you that this process has vet this process followed a vetting
process uh and the potential for redevelopment of this property. Uh this public process follows tonight with this hearing. Uh with that with the finding that the board has jurisdiction and the above
background Mr. chair, the applicant um can proceed to make their presentation. >> Thank you, counselor, for that overview of the history of this application. Counselor. >> Yes. Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Cruz. Um for the record, my name is Peter Flannry with the law firm of
Biscerhoff on behalf of the applicant, Clark Broadway Associates LLC. Um with respect to the property at 52 Westfield Avenue, it's located in the Westfield Avenue redevelopment plan area. Um, the applicant tonight is seeking preliminary and final major site plan approvals to
construct a fourstory inclusionary mixeduse building consisting of approximately 138 residential apartments over approximately 5,900 square ft of retail um ground level um as well as over parking and there are various other
site improvements. Um, this would produce approximately 21 affordable housing units. Um the project is governed by and in full compliance with the amended and restated uh Westfield Avenue redevelopment plan um ordinance 25-25 which was adopted by the township
council on August 18th, 2025. Um project also assists Clark of course in satisfying a portion of its affordable housing obligations. Uh it's part of the uh latest 2025 uh fourth round housing plan. Um still satisfying a portion of the third round uh obligation. Um there
was a technical review committee uh meeting that was held where a lot of the issues in the review letters were discussed. Um and we'll hear more about that in testimony tonight. Um the applicant has also been designated as the conditional redeveloper of the site um as of November 17th, 2025 by the
township council. Um there's a conditional redeveloper agreement which has been executed by the applicant uh and escro funds per that agreement um submitted. Uh eventually the applicant will enter into a redevelopment agreement um with the township um setting forth various uh uh
responsibilities and uh obligations regarding the proposed inclusionary development uh before the board tonight. Um I'd like to bring forward um with the board's permission our witnesses. We have three expert witnesses we plan on presenting this evening. Um engineering,
architecture, and traffic engineering. Um all these professionals submitted materials as part of the application. I'd like to start with uh Trevor Curtis who's our civil engineering expert um with L2A land design. >> Please raise your right hand. Uh repeat
after me. I state your name. >> I Trevor Curtis >> solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> I will tell the truth >> that I will tell the truth >> and nothing but the truth >> and nothing but the truth >> in this proceeding >> in this proceeding. God. >> So help me God. >> Please state and spell your name and
your employer. >> My name is Trevor Curtis. T R E V O R. I work with L2A Land Design based out of Englewood, New Jersey. >> Mr. Curtis, if you could just briefly
for the board state your education experience, lure. >> Sure. I have a bachelor's in science and civil engineering from Ruckers University. I graduated in 2013. Uh I've been a licensed civil engineer in the
state of New Jersey uh for the past seven years or so. >> Make a motion to approve. Do I have a second? >> Second. All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Thank you. You may continue. >> We have some exhibits that we're going to be presenting this evening.
>> Mr. Flattery. Um, as you go through the exhibits, would you please identify them as A1 and describe what the exhibit is? >> Yes. So, we'll mark this exhibit A1. Mr. Curtis, if you could just briefly describe the exhibit.
So to to start off, I wanted to bring up uh just a simple Google Earth aerial exhibit of the subject properties to get the the board as well as the public familiar with uh the site as it currently exists today.
So on this sheet is just a Google Earth image uh the most current image on Google uh which indicates the existing ger uh on the central portion of the property um in the black color uh which has been
vacant for a number of years. I believe nearly 20 years uh surrounded by a rather large area of asphalt uh the former parking areas. Um and the site is accessed via Westfield Avenue um to the
south, Broadway to the north, and Joseph Street to the west. Uh at the southwestern corner of property lies the existing bank with dual drive-thru uh with additional asphalt um
surfaces surrounding that building as well as a number of curve cuts. So, I wanted to familiarize the board with what the site looked like today um prior to going into the plans. So, the civil plans and the color renderings
that I've prepared for tonight's hearing. Um a little additional information on the existing site. The existing site slopes um in a southerntherly direction with Broadway being at a higher elevation
than Westfield. Uh storm water runoff is is not uh currently detained with any known storm water management measures. Uh essentially storm water runoff from existing conditions can flow off the site undetained nearly all of it being
tributary to Westfield Avenue. There are a number of existing curb cuts around the site. Uh, in fact, there are five exist existing curb cuts throughout the entire property. There are two
existing curb cuts on Westfield Avenue, one existing curb cut on Joseph Street, and two existing curb cuts on Broadway. A total of five curb cuts uh for the entire property in question. The property is about 2.23
acres in total. Uh it consists of a number of parcels as Mr. Flannry outlined. Uh the proposed improvements would include the entirety of that 2.23 acres as well as the surrounding streetscape uh including a
reconstruction of all of the sidewalks, curbing uh and associated street trees and streetscape with uh around the entire perimeter of the site. I'm going to go right into the
site plan that was prepared for this except we're going to mark this as an exhibit because it was not submitted to the board. >> This will be A2. Exhibit A2 is a near replica of the sheet CO4 site plan that was submitted
to the board um as part of this application. The major difference is that this plan is colorized to identify the proposed improvements uh including the building uh grass or landscaped areas uh new
asphalt areas, curb cuts, striping, etc. There is one additional change that is on this plan that resulted from the TRC meeting prior to this hearing. Uh and that resulted from a comment regarding
curb radi. Uh if anybody is noticing the minute details uh some of the original curb radi for the driveways was 15 ft and I changed it to a minimum of 20 ft to comply with those comments. Before I forget, going through the the testimony
of this plan, the large brown area in the middle would be the extents of the proposed building. The proposed building is a three-story residential overgroundfloor parking and uh commercial retail. The commercial
retail component is is at the southwest corner of the site consisting of about 5900 square feet. Uh during the architectural testimony, we'll go over more about the interior workings of the building, but essentially all ground
floor parking can accommodate the required 1.7 spaces per unit. There are a total of 138 residential units on the upper three floors. Um, these 236
parking spaces in the garage are accommodated through 77 tandem spaces and hold on 82 single spaces. Uh, and we do have additional testimony prepared for that during the traffic testimony
regarding parking and circulation. Access to the ground floor garage would be proposed via Joseph Street and Broadway. Two full movement access driveways. Um I highlight that because there are five,
as I mentioned before, existing curb cuts, uh including two on Westfield Avenue that would be eliminated as part of this proposal. uh essentially continuing the pedestrian sidewalk and on street parking along Westfield
Avenue. In addition to the on street parking on Westfield, uh we do have a 45 foot long loading area um which through the through the more recent years has become more and more important um for
temporary uh loading specifically UPS, Amazon Prime, uh things of that nature. Uh this area could also be utilized as a movein moveout area um which would be managed by the building and coordinated
with management. Additional on street spaces on Joseph Street and Broadway are provided in an angular fashion which is required under the redevelopment plan. There are
11 new spaces along Joseph Street which are angled at 45° and there are 16 spaces along Broadway angled at 60°. The redevelopment plan requires 11 along Joseph and 14 along Broadway. We're
providing two additional spaces uh then required on street. Uh and ADA space is provided as well on Joseph Street uh to facilitate and activate that corner um especially with the retail component at the southwest corner of the site.
EV parking will be provided in the garage for the residential use. That is a state law. Now 15% of all residential uh parking spaces uh would be required to comply with that EV requirement. I
note that we are not taking credit um for any spaces uh for zoning purposes. The current law for EV spaces allows a two space uh credit for up to 10% of the proposed parking. So if there are
236 spaces, essentially you would be allowed a 23 space credit. We're not taking the credit. I acknowledge it because it's it's relatively uh new law and it comes up from time to time during hearings these days. Um we are providing the EV spaces
as required. Um but we are not taking the credit. Uh and we'll have further testimony from the architect and the traffic engineer that will um elaborate more on the parking requirements with the tandem and the single spaces and
management. Addition additional improvements per the redevelopment plan include approximately 20 foot wide uh sidewalk along Westfield Avenue and 10 foot wide sidewalks along Joseph and Broadway. Uh it it it really
interconnects this corner and provides that that looping pedestrian access from Westfield Avenue to Broadway. uh creating these large gener generously large sidewalks uh along the facade of the building. And to further activate
that corner, there are additional uh streetscape amenities that are provided. Uh benches, uh new PSCNG street poles around the entire property, uh trash receptacles, um uh things of that nature. The street
cheese I I do note, are spaced about 40 ft. Uh the planners letter, uh Mr. Richie outlines that some minor adjustments to the street trees uh related to the spacing which I have no issue with. Um there are also some minor
comments uh that we had discussed prior to the hearing regarding some sidewalk. Um I have no issues with making minor adjustments to the streetscape. The streetscape is buffered by a landscape strip or a planter uh strip between the
building and the sidewalk. Um and additional street trees are uh proposed around the remainder of the site in less standard street street uh street tree style than Westfield Avenue where you have a typical tree pit. Uh these street
trees uh essentially would just provide that aesthetic look and you know that that shade for the sidewalk areas. Uh in total the site proposes
19 new shade trees and 163 shrubs. Uh you know we thought it was important to uh to really landscape especially up against the building just to provide that nice aesthetic walkable environment around the property. Um, and the
building includes undulations, which is contemplated in that redevelopment plan. Um, so that it doesn't look as much of a a long linear building. It it breaks it up as you walk through uh these brand new streetscape areas.
[Music] And I'll quickly go over zoning. Um and I mean I brush over it because the project uh meets all the requirements that the redevelopment plan outlines. Uh there are no variances associated with
this plan. Um and I mean that that's really all I have about the zoning. It's totally compliant. uh coverage as compared to existing conditions is actually decreased and I have it on the plan.
We're decreasing coverage or increasing the open space pvious areas by approximately 1377 square ft. um which is important as we go through the remainder of the testimony talking
about grading and drainage which I think um the entire site is mostly a building. So the the civil is mostly limited to you know storm water management grading around the perimeter of the property. Uh so I note that it is important because
under proposed conditions we are providing storm water management which I believe is one of the more significant uh improvements as compared to existing conditions. As I mentioned earlier the existing site drains almost entirely to Westfield Avenue with no
known measures of storm water control. Essentially, all the runoff is captured by inlets or roof drains and piped directly with no control to Westfield Avenue and Joseph Street. So, under proposed conditions, what the building does is it eliminates all of the nearly
all of the asphalt surfaces that are there under existing conditions. The D um has hammered in their most recent rules the um the significance of reducing
regulated motor vehicle surfaces, what are essentially asphalt or drivable surfaces. uh the the water quality impacts that drivable surfaces that are left untreated and uncontrolled uh is one of the more significant uh rule
changes from 2023 that the state issued under their new regulations. So what the proposed improvements does is it takes all that asphalt and it changes it to clean roof runoff. NGD stormwater rules consider runoff from
roofs uh as a clean source of runoff as opposed to asphalt which is uh a negative impact to to water quality especially tributary to existing municipal systems. So under proposed conditions, not only are we reducing the
impervious coverage, the site decreases asphalt and concrete by 54,159 square ft about. Uh so it it it may seem like an insignificant number, but when it comes down to water quality, it's a
significant improvement as compared to existing conditions. Part of the stormwater management design was to show or prove that the site does not increase runoff uh tributary to Westfield Avenue uh or Joseph Street,
that intersection uh which is at the southwest corner of the site. It's not enough to just show that it doesn't increase storm water. We did implement uh as per my discussions with Mr. Okconor the engineer. Prior to
finalizing the design of the plans, um a series of stormwater detention tanks below the building, these detention tanks will control runoff from the roof. uh essentially roof runoff will be piped down the building columns into the
subsurface detention basins and control that runoff prior to going into the Westfield Avenue and Joseph Streets uh municipal storm water systems. Why is that important? because under current conditions, all of that
runoff uncontrolled during a large storm event uh for example a 25 or 100year storm, those pipes are at at or below capacity. So slowing off the runoff, slowing the
runoff underneath the building in these storm water uh systems is a significant improvement because it allows runoff to leave the site slower and miss the peak and improve the
capacity of the downstream systems. So that's essentially one of the paramount designs uh design aspects is that it it provides a significant quality and quantity um improvement to the site as it
currently exists today. There are a number of other improvements related to utilities um that would be related to to sanitary, water, um gas and electric. Uh in particular, the sanitary will
discharge to Broadway and to Joseph in two separate locations to split up the flow and not concentrate it all in one spot. Water will connect to uh Joseph Street near the southwest corner of the site. Gas will connect to the existing
gas main located along Westfield Avenue. Uh and electric will be pulled off Broadway um to a transformer. I do note that utility coordination is ongoing. Uh we have contacted utility agencies in particular uh New Jersey American Water
to ensure that we do have the adequate pressure for fire which is something um that came up during the TRC meeting um with the fire official. So we have reached out and coordinated hydrant flow tests uh as well as uh where exactly
connection points should be made to provide the you know the the most pressure for the building to to to get that fire suppression. Uh additional testimony can be given from the architects um uh regarding all of the
interior improvements and utilities that are being proposed for the building. See, so from from a jurisdictional standpoint, the property would require approval from the county because Westfield Avenue is a county uh under
county jurisdiction. Um so county approval would be required as part of this application. Um so erosion approval would be required as well as uh various utility permits and approval from the D for a treatment works approval um due to
the effluent being discharged under proposed conditions. Um I have no objection to any of the comments that were issued from Mr. Okconor's engineering report u or Mr. Richie's planning report. I have spoken to them
um prior to the hearing to coordinate and agree that for the um you know if approved that any of these comments would be addressed during compliance. Uh I would note that one other item that did come up during conversation is that a one of the light
poles was mowed down by a U-Haul truck uh that that would be replaced as part of this uh project. We do have a number of new PSEG polemounted fixtures proposed along the facade of the property in addition
to some wall-mounted fixtures to provide that safe and adequate pedestrian passage throughout uh the Westfield Avenue, Joseph Street and Broadway rights of way. One item that I didn't bring up is that Joseph Street does have
that new angled parking, whereas under existing conditions, it is a it is a two-way street. Proposed conditions will um change the the direction of Joseph Street to a one-way street. Uh and we we do have additional testimony on that
from our traffic engineer. I just wanted to bring that up as a as a precursor to uh one additional change that was that was essentially generated from the redevelopment plan due to the angled on street spaces. There there is sufficient
backup maneuver uh for Joseph Street and Broadway. Um, in fact, Joseph Street has um 15 1/2 ft of backup maneuver for that one-way street, whereas 13 ft is is required under the general land development ordinance. Uh, and that is
for the 45° spaces. 60° spaces need about 18 ft and we have just over 18 ft um to the first yellow double line. Uh one more quick item is that as part of the reconstruction of all the
streetscape, we would uh reconstruct the ADA ramps in in accordance with uh you know the current federal ADA standards uh and maintain the required slopes to provide that ADA access throughout the site. That's all I have for my direct
testimony and I leave it to the architect and the traffic engineer. >> Thank you, Mr. Curtis. Um, that's all we have at this time for direct testimony from Mr. Curtis. I don't know if the board would like to ask uh him questions or >> how I I see you've got uh towards West
Hill Avenue there's hashed outline. I guess that's for accessibility um for the tenants. It also butts up against and you have tandem parking all across there. It also butts up against what's labeled as a trash room. How is garbage going to get picked up? So, we we have
uh testimony prepared for that, but from my understanding that trash would be picked up from the from the Joseph Street side, walk through the building to the Joseph Street side, not on Westfield. >> Our architect will go into a little more detail on that. Mr. Chairman,
>> does anyone on the board have any questions regarding this testimony? >> Seeing none, any >> I have a couple of follow-ups. You indicated that there was an on street loading area. >> Yes, that loading area is actually would be required uh to get mayor and council
approval. We are proposing it um but it is subject to approval by mayor and council. We we think it's it's it's something that provides a significant benefit especially uh in an area where double parking is a potential.
So, if the board were inclined to grant this application, that would be a condition of approval. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You also indicated that all of the comments made by uh Mr. Okconor in a September 10, 2025 letter are acceptable to you and would be acceptable as
conditions? >> Yes. >> And the same is true for the uh Mr. Ricky's uh letter of September 25th. Is that correct? >> Yes. you did not address the fire uh chief
fire officials uh memorandum of September 11th, 2025. Is are you uh going to address that or is someone else going to address that? >> We have uh the architecture planning to address it, but I I would note that if
any comments translated to civil changes, I would agree to make those changes in coordination with the fire official. Could you just show us where that loading would be? >> You can see the the striped loading area
uh 45 ft long along the uh frontage of Westfield. >> All right. Thank you councelor you. >> No thank you Mr. Mayor. >> Okay hearing nobody in the board has any questions. If anyone from the public
wishes to come forward regarding this testimony and this testimony only you have a chance at the end of meeting for general comments. Please come forward. State your name spell it and your address. >> Sure. Uh Eric Rodriguez Bartell. Um, so
I had a question regarding the um the lighting on Westfield A. Uh, is are the existing lights going to be are the existing lights going to be retained and are you going to add any similar to it
on the other sides of the property? That this question did come up. The uh PSNG fixtures have actually been updated since these were installed. Um, even if I tried to save them, I don't think it's going to be possible. They would be
replaced with the newest PSCG fixtures uh and and spaced between the street trees uh and and they would continue around the perimeter of the property to provide that safe and adequate pedestrian passage throughout the site. And then the other question I had, uh,
the angled parking, um, is is that taking over a portion of the street or is that all on your property? >> The the angled parking is not on our property. It's in the public rightway.
Um, but it does not encroach upon with any within any existing facilities on Broadway. >> And then one last question on that. Are those going to be all public or will any of them be like designated as part of the building specific tenants or
anything along those lines? >> So, those spaces are for public use. All of the spaces within the garage would be for the um for the building itself. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else wish to come forward? >> Please state your name and address.
Barbara White, 7 Harding Avenue. Uh my first question is, are you going to fumigate the current pro uh building? I know it was done several years ago when the the planning was started, but I'm sure it's full of wildlife and I
don't want to see rats and things coming down my street when uh they start tearing down the building. >> Yes, that's a requirement for demolition permit. So, prior to getting the demolition permit, they would have to um bait and trap anything in the building.
>> Okay. >> And then if I have questions about parking, should it be addressed now or when the traffic >> probably best for the traffic engineer? >> Okay, I'll come back. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Uh excuse me. Uh we were going to go
through everyone with their questions and uh let me just give a word of caution. Uh we're going to do one round of questioning. Uh so if you have a question, get it ready. Uh this is not a round, Robin. Okay.
>> No, you >> No. No. For this witness, for this engineer, it's the civil engineer that we're asking questions about. There will be other witnesses. you will get that opportunity. But what I'm talking about is Mr. Rodriguez already uh questioned once, he was
standing up for a second time. The the rest of the public has to have an opportunity and then the next witness will go forward. >> Hi, Claire Labuno, 20 Post Road. Uh my first question is you spoke about the setback on Westfield Avenue being 20 ft.
What is it currently >> to? >> I guess like road to building and and then the same for Joseph Street. You said it's going to be 10 foot and I wondered what it I think it's a little
more now. What is it now? >> So I'll I'll zoom into the existing and proposed So the zoning table outlines the existing and the prop sorry and the proposed setbacks from Westfield, Joseph and Broadway. So
Westfield existing 11 a 12 proposed 20.8 Joseph Street existing 24.2 proposed 12.6 6 Broadway existing 65.4 proposed 11.9 whereas you can also see what the permitted
redevelopment plan um requirements are. So we are meeting the redevelopment plan requirements. Some may be closer but some may be further away. >> Uh I'd also like I think uh it detailed and you mentioned tree
replacement. It looked like nine trees and again like how many like what's being removed I guess and that's the replacement of >> we can go to the plans that were submitted as part of the
application. So, I'm bringing up the civil plans that were Do we mark the plans? >> That's what the Yes, the the chair just said you should mark it. Uh >> and those are the landscaping plans.
>> So, this is the demolition plan and highlighted in blue X's would be the existing trees that are being removed. Um, if you can zoom in, a lot of the trees are actually within the public rightway and being replaced.
Um, on on site there are, and I'll count approximately one, two, 11 trees um that would be removed. So, as part of proposed conditions, we're proposing 19
new trees and 163 shrubs. >> Hello, good evening. My name is Gabrielle Aruda. I live at 33C Parkway Drive. Um, my question was also related to the trees. Um, and I was wondering if um the committee council might hold the
business to um the idea of having to supply uh non-invasive um and native to New Jersey trees and shrubs. It's one thing to take down old Oh, yeah. Sorry. It's one thing to take down, you know, old growth trees and and
put up something that's quite inexpensive from a landscaper as opposed to uh or something that's invasive and will bring more pests um to our community. Um, so I would like to see that they're responsible for putting native trees and shrubs in. And perhaps
also for the old growth trees that they're taking down, perhaps you might make them have to plant additional trees elsewhere in Clark uh or within Union County to um as Trevor I heard your name say, uh, as Trevor mentioned, uh, he talked about the trees as being
aesthetic and I think the trees are far more than aesthetic in our community and we're losing a lot of >> comments. Oh, thank you. Sorry. My first time here. I appreciate it. >> It's It's a good question and I think I believe Mr. Ricky's letter outlines that
um there's a the condition of approval is to get um shade tree approval. I believe I'll find it. >> I could jump in. Yeah. The township has an ordinance that's pertaining to the number of trees and the breast height diameter that you take down. based on
the breast height diameter, you have to replant um specific trees uh to replace the trees that were taken down. So that is all part of the township ordinance and that would be a condition of approval after we see what trees you're going to be taking out, what the breast height is, and how we would approach
that. >> 40 Broadway. Uh thank you for coming tonight. Appreciate it. and thank you for being the first one up. So, first thing uh electrical load. So, you mentioned right so obviously PSG has to come out the load on existing homes in
the area. How is that going to change? Right. Sorry. How's the load going going to be assessed and then adjusted as appropriate? >> Right. It it it goes through a a very actually rigorous coordination with PSNG. uh we essentially give them all of
the metrics for the building uh that get included in the load data and PSCG makes a determination of whether or not a transformer uh polemounted padmounted transformer is required uh and what the
electric load does on the surrounding area. Uh they provide an opinion and whether or not infrastructure has to be improved prior to doing that. We don't anticipate any of uh the surrounding areas being impacted, but that does all
go into uh in fact before even submitting an application just to have a discussion with them. All of this information is provided almost upfront for that particular reason to ensure that it has no impact on the surrounding area. There are existing or were
previously existing uses on the property. I realize they've been vacant for a long time. So they take into consideration existing and proposed and they do look at that. >> Okay. Yeah. Just it it is a you're right 20 years ago there was something there but 138 units consume a bit more than
what was there right. So thank you though. Um wastewater that's the other topic. So the there are reports in the area right at times of certain homes having challenges with wastewater movement. this is going to significantly
increase obviously 138 residents right uh or units how is that treated as well >> so there are a number of approvals that uh wastewater or sanitary effluent goes through in order to get approved um it's
layered so on top of getting uh approval from the planning board uh review from the uh the engineer uh it gets reviewed and approved by the engineer. Uh a form is signed, it gets reviewed and approved by uh Rawway Valley Sewage Authority. Uh
it gets signed uh and then it gets reviewed and approved by the state of New Jersey under a treatment works approval application and then an permit is issued. It's actually one of the longer permits to get. So there's a rigorous review that goes into this to ensure that there are no negative
impacts and that the treatment facility can handle that flow. And I did mention that we are splitting the flow as to not concentrate it into one spot. Um but any comments that are issued from any of these jurisdictional agencies have to be addressed in order to to connect the
physically connect. >> Thank you. And so parking on Broadway, if you could could you go back to that drawing if that's okay. So >> I'm changing back to the colorized site plan. Uh A2
>> A2. >> Thank you. So I I'm those spots on Broadway. You mentioned that there's plenty of you're not encroaching onto this the current property today. So that means that it's this essentially the blacktop that's there today. The asphalt
that's all that remains that cuz to back up onto broad and maybe this is for the traffic person, but I did want to talk to you about the clearance and then I have another point for the traffic individual. So, >> so is there enough clearance I guess is where I'm going.
>> So, between the back of the angled space and the center line of the road is 18 ft, which is what's required for a backup maneuver of an angled space uh of 45°
60° 60° on Broadway. So, we do have a traffic engineer not next but after the architect that will further elaborate. They just for your knowledge which I haven't testified to during the TRC meeting uh comments came
up about um traffic on Broadway. So after the TRC we went out or the traffic engineer and his team went out and did additional counts to ensure what you're saying there are enough you know gaps to make turns onto Broadway and to
facilitate testimony for the backup maneuvers for the cars. I don't know what the right challenge is. Um I living across the street where the uh the spot there is no way that today that's 18 ft from the curb to the
center line. Impossible. Impossible. I mean just cuz I live there. If I didn't live there for 25 years be different. So maybe if there's something I could review that's great. Show you a measuring tape and a picture. Awesome. >> Oh and and and the plans are public. So you have a you can definitely have a
chance to go look at the plans and the dimensions are on the plans and uh it it may be deceiving. I don't know. >> Okay. Uh and who do we talk to about schooling? Is is that the architect
>> about what >> in terms of schooling? So 138 units. How's our town going to address that? Is that in the open forum or >> that would be a a public comment? Um,
this board is concerned with whether or not the town ordinances are met in this particular case, the redevelopment plan that's been uh referred to and if the redevelopment plan has a gap in it, then
to the underlying zoning for the DV uh the DV uh district um DTV district. um the the law presumes that when the council adopts that kind
of legislation that it has considered that. So that is really a township council question not a question for for this board. Uh this is that the issue is does the plan conform or not conform to the >> okay >> redevelopment plan.
>> Fair enough. Thank you. I was asking only because the number of units that's being that's part of this proposal. Okay. Fair enough. Thank you. Uh and then height is that is that civil or is it architect? >> Architecture. >> Okay. And
that's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> One one quick note. I don't want to overdo it. The the on street spaces are are not something we're proposing. It's something that's required. Those angled spaces are we're required to put those in under the redevelopment plan. So all
of our parking is satisfied in the building. We don't anticipate using those spaces to facilitate parking for our building. >> I understood. So I should have been here in 2018 is what you're saying. Understood. Thank you. >> Does anyone else wish to come forward?
Seeing no one. Counselor. >> Well, there's a a lady that in the corner. >> Good catch. >> I do want to call Rodriguez again because I had only one set of questions after. Everyone, my name's Jackie
Tamilo. I live at 96 Ivy Street. Um, I had a quick question about that grassy patch by Joseph Street intersection. Can you tell me how far that is sticking out?
This It looks like it kind of comes out onto Westfield Avenue to make room for those parking spots. >> Yes. So it it's it's I guess the technical term is it's a it's a curb extension. Uh it's a traffic calming um
for the on street spaces uh and pedestrian movements in that area. Um but what the design does is it does not encroach into the right of way of Westfield. So, we maintained everything that was uh
outside the travel lane and manipulated the curb line to provide that traffic calming for pedestrians walking across the street. Essentially extend the area uh into Joseph Street so that people don't have to walk as far to get to the
other side. It it's it's pedestrian safety thing. Um, was there any consideration of a crosswalk across Westfield Avenue or is that a county question? >> It's subject to a to county approval.
Uh, anything within the rightway. In fact, all of the improvements being shown here are subject to their approval, but no no crosswalk going in the southerntherly direction was contemplated. Would you be open to considering that or
I is that something the board I know that there's going to be another apartment complex across the street and there are no crosswalks in that area. It might just be something. >> I would I would say that at I couldn't agree that we will do it, but I can
agree that we could talk to the county about it and and there is there's traffic testimony who would talk more about circulation and maybe he has a better opinion than I do, but I couldn't agree to it unless the county says it's something that they want to uh uh tackle
in in this application. um as best as >> you're willing to make that a condition of approval that you will raise this issue with the county uh without any further action of this board? >> Yes. >> Um I have a question about asbestous
abatement. Was that done in 2020 or does that still have to be done at the current property? I found something today, an application that was made in 2020 for asbestous abatement. >> Part of the demolition permit, they have
to do the rodent extermination as well as provide a survey that the asbestous is free or that it was removed. So when they come to get the demolition permit, all that will be taken care of. >> Okay. So if they do find a speestous, I guess they have >> they'll have to abate it before they take it. Okay. Or it becomes more
expensive for dem demolition material disposal. >> Okay. Um, I think that's all my questions. >> Councelor, just one second. >> M Mr. Chair, uh, Mr. Rodriguez got up a second time and I had not informed the public that there would be only one
opportunity for questions. So when you got up a second time, you didn't know that what what the procedure would be. So if you have a second question for this uh, engineer, that would be fine. >> Sure. Uh, Eric Rodriguez, 12 mortal. So the only question I had, someone else
already kind of hinted at it, but it related to the uh utility electric load and whether or not um this particular development would be um paying any sort of amount of money towards the cost of any upgrades that
the grid may need that would otherwise be passed on to the rateayers in the community. Well, that is a different question that was asked before. >> This property is in a redevelopment area, a condemnation redevelopment area.
>> Uh it would be eligible for a a pilot program, a payment in lie of taxes program or a financial agreement, but that's for the township council to consider, not for th this board. But uh a pilot agreement or financial agreement
would be part of uh the >> talking more about utilities. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Utilities. >> Yeah, cuz like if there was like a like if they had to upgrade the substation, let's say by Shopright in part because of this particular development and the load that it might create. >> I I apologize that I'm You could go
ahead. Go ahead. >> I don't have the answer at this time because we we haven't gone that far into the process. I don't anticipate nor in my experience have seen uh extensive substation improvements due to one
development. Um but at this time I don't know the answer. It's possible. Anything's possible. >> When would that be determined? Upon review by the utility company of what the needs for this development are? >> Yes. So when we submit any kind of
question, PSEG does not answer the question unless they have a project number. They don't uh get a project number until we give them load data. Once they get the load data, the questions come in about whether or not uh the infrastructure can handle it, if
there are additional improvements uh or if there are no additional improvements um essentially that's how it it comes from PSNG. So we wouldn't we wouldn't know at this time until you submit an application. And typically you don't do PSCG applications till you get approval
from the board and you start doing your construction drawings. Um these are board uh architectural drawings. They're not construction drawings. So there's a lot that goes into the load data. Um but from a preliminary standpoint, we know that certain requirements are required
from PSCNG. Um but their system itself we would have no knowledge of. They would have to tell it to us. >> Got it. So that that was really the only thing just that they if there were improvements that that would be considered that they might contribute some portion to offset the impact to the
community uh of the cost of those upgrades for all of the other rateayers. Thank you. >> Anyone else wish to come forward? >> Seeing no one council, you may continue with the next witness. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um we'll have
our architect up next. Please state your name and repeat after me. >> Avalino Martinez. >> Do solemnly swear. >> Do solemnly swear >> that I will tell the truth >> that I will tell the truth. >> And nothing but the truth. >> And nothing but the truth. >> This proceeding >> in this proceeding. >> So help me God.
>> So help me God. >> Please state your name and spell it. And your employer, >> Avalino Martinez. That's a v l i n o. Martinez, m a r t i ne z with blackbird group architects.
>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Martinez, if you could just briefly for the board state your education, experience, and lensure. >> Sure. I uh I hold a bachelor's degree in architecture. Uh I'm a licensed architect in the state of New Jersey as well as a number of other states. Uh I appear regularly before uh
>> I move to accept. Second. All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? They continue. >> Thank you. Mr. Martinez, I believe you also have some exhibits. >> I do. Um so if I may, I'd like to begin
with um this is the set of uh architectural drawings that were submitted with the application. It's a total of 10 sheets. uh last dated August uh 26th of 2025. >> We will mark these exhibit A4.
>> Okay. Okay. So, um as you heard, we we we spoke a little bit about the orientation of the building, the placement um of the project. Um in terms of overall data, the building is a total of 138 total
dwelling units and that is broken up into a combination of 117 market rate units and 21 affordable housing units. Um the affordable units are broken down in a combination of three one-bedrooms,
um 12bedrooms, and six threebedrooms. And the market rate units are 17 1-bedrooms, 88 2bedrooms, and 12 uh 3bedrooms.
So, referring to drawing A1 of exhibit A4, uh which is the ground floor plan, um this exhibit is very similar to the site plan we saw where Westfield Avenue is located along the bottom of the sheet here. Uh we have Joseph Street uh on the
left side and then Broadway on the the top side of the page. Um along the Westfield Avenue um elevation, we have the p pedestrian I'm sorry, the the residential pedestrian entrance, if you will, would be at the center of the
building. So that's the area I'm pointing to here at the bottom of the page. Um, and that would um take someone to the elevators, uh, mail room, package room, um, and some amenity space for tenants, uh, in this area as well. To
the left side of that, or on the corner of, uh, Joseph and Westfield Avenue, we have a commercial retail space. It's approximately, uh, 5,900 square ft, and there currently is no tenant um, selected at this time. um and it's
currently shown as one space, but the possibility does exist that that may be broken up into two smaller tenants depending on um the final tenant selection at that time. The the primary entrance or ceremonial entrance, if you will, we'll see that on the exterior
elevations, but that is uh oriented towards the corner of Joseph and uh Westfield Avenue. Um the remainder of the ground floor, the blue area we see here, is dedicated to parking. So that's a total of 236
parking spaces uh for the residential um use and tenants from that garage which would be entering either from the Joseph Street or the um Broadway um driveway access points would be parking in the
garage and then entering into the building either through the lobby area uh down here at the bottom of the page or could access the building above through either the stair towers. um on left and right side. Um there was also discussion about the
uh the trash um the area located here. The TR room is is our trash room. Um and that is both for the retail as well as the residential uses. On the upper floors, we'll see the operation of that, but uh it does have a compactor system
to handle uh traditional household waste. Um, so somebody would deposit trash in the upper levels, it would go down through a chute, be compacted at roughly a 5 to one ratio, and then directly into a small dumpster. Those are uh typically 2y dumpsters, which are
roughly 3 feet in width and six feet in length. Um, and those would be wheeled out to either of the the driveway points at the rear of the um of the site. Uh in terms of the vehicular pickup of how that works, our traffic engineer will speak to a little bit more of how um how
they gets picked up, but these are typically easily managed by just rolling them to the to the entrance points. Um so going up to the upper floors and this again, exhibit A4 drawing A2 is our first floor plan. That's the second
story of the building, but it's the first residential floor. Um and this is a typical overall floor plan. So, we have a double- loaded corridor around uh the building with apartments on on both sides. Again, on the bottom of the page,
we have uh the lobby with two elevators and a stair tower. Um and then we have a corridor around the perimeter uh which would take you to to the apartment. In addition to it, there's two amenity terraces um where the these interior
units face those terraces. Those are uh passive recreation spaces. So, they're really just some um some seating and some some landscaping and things of that sort. It's not active uh uses uh like pickle ball or any sort of um amenities
of that type. In addition to it, and and what sets this floor aside from the rest in terms of layout is that there's also a uh 30 3,300 square foot amenity space. So, that is uh yet to be programmed, but
it would typically be a lounge, a co-working center, uh or also um the game lounge or um just interior amenities for the the tenants. Um in terms of apartment areas in general, um one-bedroom apartments are
averaging by type uh 780 square ft. two-bedroom units are,300 square feet approximately and the threebedroom units um 1,700 square feet. The affordable units are close in size at uh 777
square ft for one bedrooms, approximately 1,100 for two bedrooms, and approximately 1360 for uh threebedroom units. Um, all portions of the building are fully handicap accessible in accordance
with the federal and state regulations. Um, all portions of the building will also be uh sprinklered um in accordance with the um the requirements. And um
in terms of construction type, the building is what we refer to as a podium building. So that is a non-combustible um first story of the building with a um woodframed fireresistance rated construction for all the upper levels above.
So in terms of the exterior um design of the building, I'd like to refer to the rendering which is a new exhibit um which has not been submitted as part of the application. We'll mark
this exhibit A5. >> So, exhibit A5 is entitled a proposed mixeduse building uh prepared by my office and undated. And that is a artist color rendering of the exterior view of
the building as viewed from the corner of Joseph Street and uh and Westfield Avenue. So, as we saw in the plan, the the element we have here would be the entrance to the the retail or commercial space on the corner. Um, and as you can
see, the building is a three-story residential over one story of commercial and parking uh on the first floor. And in terms of the exterior materials, what we try to do is break up the facade using a combination of uh vertical and
horizontal demarcation. So by doing that we can break up the facade uh and provide visual interest and we do that with those demarcations as well as um combinations of colors and materials and variations thereof. So the materials you
see here the the um the light beige color if you will is a cast stone um veneer. The remainder of the building uses a combination of brick in two coordinating um shades and those are true masonry materials. So they're
they're full depth um real brick and real um caststone. And then uh in combination with that we use uh fiber cement panels in two coordinating shades as well. So by doing that we can get a very um traditional and timeless
architectural design with a a base, a middle and a top um to break up that facade. Um so along the the bottom here we can see the um in this case it shows some outdoor dining presumably if it were a restaurant tenant. Um and towards
the right we can see this would be the middle of the building uh which is that residential entrance we saw on the plan. So, it'll have a canopy um and um that entrance at that point. Um terms of the building height, the the height of the
building is just under 50 ft. Uh it's at 49.92 ft where 52 feet uh would be permitted by the redevelopment plan. Um the building has a will be referred to as a flat roof. So, it'll have internal uh roof drains which then get connected
to the system Trevor um described in his testimony. And um in terms of mechanical equipment for the apartments, these um don't use any throughall units or anything that would be visible from the facade. They're traditional uh what we call
split units. So, it's it's what you commonly find in a single family home. So there's a the furnace or an air handler inside the apartment and condensing units located on the roof. Um so any of that equipment on the roof is uh set back behind parapits or oriented
such that it wouldn't be visible from any uh point at along the street uh from grade. Um, and I believe unless I missed something, I believe that concludes my >> We want to talk a little bit about um
moveins and trash pickup and and that sort of thing. >> Sure. So, I'll just go back to the plan real quick. Um, and if we go So, back on uh ground floor plan. Um this was exhibit A4.
Um so that loading area that we saw at the front of the building um would be typically used for moveins that would um have direct access to the lobby which has two elevators. So moveins and moveouts would take place at that area and that would be coordinated with
management uh to schedule timing um by way of trash removal. Um, I described how that would get to the entrance points and then our our traffic engineer will explain a little bit further how the the vehicular pickup uh of the truck would operate. >> There were also some comments in the um
the fire uh memo that were architectural in nature. >> Um yes, I believe one of the comments was with regard to um lock boxes and um
horn strobes >> and horn strobes. So, we would absolutely provide those uh and we'll coordinate with the fire department in terms of best locations for those. Um there was also a question about the the uh EV charging stations and their locations and those were shown on the
the civil engineers uh plans and there as required by um by state law. Were there any other issues in the other review letters that were architectural in nature that we had an issue with or are we going to comply with those?
>> Um, I believe we we will comply. Just one other comment on the fire that that I missed uh with regard to a radio test. Um, and that's a requirement of the building code. So, of course, we will provide that. Ultimately, what that means is that we test the building for emergency responder radio coverage and
if they have insufficient signal, there's a booster system that would be installed on the building. So that will absolutely be provided. Um there was a comment in uh the planners report which I failed to speak about in the in the description of the garage but the the
garage that we have here is a ventilated garage. Um and uh what that means it's a naturally ventilated garage. So it doesn't use a mechanical system. Um so there's openings around the perimeter um which allow the free flow of uh of air
and and fumes to be uh exhausted. So, um I think the the elevation that we submitted had some very simple um uh grill pattern shown on these louvers and uh we'll work with the planner to do some improved um design and something
aesthetically uh pleasing. And I I believe that was all of the um there was a question in the planners letter also uh item G which was uh
asking about the affordable units and um how they're integrated and whether they have washers and dryers. They do have washers and dryers just as the um all of the other market rate units do. And in addition, all of the finishes and
finishes will be equivalent to those in the um in the market rate units. >> Thank you. >> Can you show the layout of the other two floors? >> Sure. >> So this uh this is going to be the first residential floor. Um and then if we and
this is again exhibit uh a >> the amenity terrace is just an open >> correct. So this area here is an open uh it's an open terrace that these apartments would face. Um there are two access points. For example, on the on this side, the amenity space has doors
that would open onto that space and there's also an access point here. Uh the left amenity terrace has an access point here on the left side and another one on the the south side. Um, and so typically this hasn't been fully
designed yet, but typically what it'll have is uh landscaping directly around the perimeter of the the space. So basically it keeps someone from walking up to your apartment windows and offers a little level of privacy.
And then just to flip through the upper levels, uh the two remaining levels are identical to those we saw below with the exception that these upper floors don't have that um that indoor amenity space. And then lastly, that would be the the
third floor plan exhibit uh A I'm sorry, sheet A4. >> So it's not open all the way up. >> It is open to the sky. Yes, but it's only accessible on one level. So, it's only accessible on the first resial >> floor is it's just open air. >> That's right.
>> Will the market rate and affordable housing be similar or will affordable housing be finished differently? >> No, they'll have the same finishes. >> Is there any reason then you're grouping it all in one spot or >> um >> seem to congregate?
>> No, I think we I mean we so we try to distribute them. For example, here the the C1B is an affordable unit. Um, there's a C3A here. There's one here. There's one here. >> That's grouping. >> There's another one uh on this end.
I mean, I I think we try to uh to distribute them throughout the building in the um in these areas. >> We have four right on top of each other. Would you consider spreading them out more? >> Um,
yeah. I guess we could look at uh >> No change in the finish. The finishes are all the same. >> The finishes are all the same, right? The the finishes and the um and the the fixtures are all the same. Um yeah, we we can look at um at at
moving their locations. >> Anyone else on the board have any questions? Sure. >> Good. >> Okay. Good. Mike. >> Yeah. How you doing? >> Um, was there any consideration to more retail space than what you have now?
>> Um, I mean this was so this was the program that we were given from the client. So I I mean I I'm not sure I can answer that. >> If if I'm not mistaken, back in 2021 when the other plan was submitted, there was four retail spaces. I could be wrong, but I I do I think I remember
that. And here we have one, potentially two. And then I see a amenity area which is facing Westfield Avenue, which is great for the people living there, but it doesn't really bring anything to the town. >> So, as much as residents of Cranford and
Fanwood don't like what's being built, what's being built there is beautiful and is bringing in a vibrant downtown area, which is what this area is supposed to be. So, we're getting 138 units in one store.
I'm just wondering, that's not creating a downtown. Was there more consideration to more frontage on Westfield out for retail and not more spaces to accommodate for more units? Um I think part of the problem is you
know in recent years retail has been hard to um come by in terms of filling spaces and we want to make sure that this space is is filled and actually has tenants. So um that was as one reason and also we want to this is about providing affordable housing. We wanted
to make sure we have enough space for uh the units and also provide amenity space. So >> understood but we won't know if they'll get filled until they're there. But if they're not there, they can't get filled. So, I'm someone who's trying to
be promoting this downtown area and unless potential retail is there, there is no downtown. This is going to be the biggest structure on this street. And we're setting a precedence now by saying, "Hey, we can have 138 units in
one store, >> right? One or two." Um, but I think what would be worse if we had a bunch of vacant space on the ground level. um you know despite our efforts to fill it. I mean that was >> well like I said Fanwood doesn't think that way. Cranford is not thinking that way and those residents aren't happy but they're going to have the ability to
walk up and down that road and shop and eat and dine and enjoy what's being built on the on the property of their town, not the builder enjoying what's being built on the property of this town, which is what my concern is.
>> Understood. I um I also have a question with the retail. Can you go back to that drawing of where you had the uh bricks in the building where um so where the signage is, that would be your entrance into the retail space? >> Yes.
>> So if you had two stores there, two storefronts, you wouldn't have a second entrance or would you on that? >> We would. So any of these locations that I'm referring to here on on the this exhibit, uh we're showing them as
windows, but any of those can be replaced with doors. So if there's was multiple tenants, they would have additional uh doors and >> and have their own entrance. >> Yes. Mhm. >> And in that amenity space, what is what is that for? >> So it hasn't been programmed yet, but we we expect it's going to be the fitness
center. So, it's going to be the the gym, which could be retail. >> Is it big enough? >> It's 2100 ft. >> Small deli coffee shop. >> It's big enough.
>> It could be. >> I think it would take away from the amenity space in the building. you know, having a a gym there, I think, is important for, you know, bringing in tenants. Um, well, we need the apartments in part to provide more affordable housing.
On the first floor of the apartments, there's a many room there, almost twice the size. Um, you said there's no plan for that one right now, so that could become the gym. >> Uh, yeah, we haven't uh designed the interior of that space. I mean typ our expectation is the gym would be on the
first level and the upper level would be a combination of co-working uh and the tenant lounge and game room but the space itself has >> any other questions for the board members? >> Yeah, one more. I know you said you would work with the uh engineer. So the
the parking spaces that are open to Westfield A. I saw in the notes that there was thought about doing glass instead of open bars. Correct. >> Okay. I I I think that's at least on the Westfield A side a much better look than looking in at at the cars. So I I did
like that note there. Re regarding that though, the note that I made regarding the glass, um I had a conversation with the architect today about that and that glass would um take away the open air aspects of the building. So they did not agree to that
aspect. they agreed to um come up with a more decorative look to that to those open air elements because the glass itself would change the building to and I'll defer to the architect on this to a ventilated style building if they take
that route. So that's so that's the discussion. Yes. Is it because it's not all four sides then? >> Because they have to have a certain amount of um open air as a percentage of the building and alternatively it becomes a >> like that front area that would be left open is not a big portion of of the
building. But you're saying that would push it over. >> I'm saying if if that's something that would occur, it may end up resulting in a ventilated building. And I mean that's those are like just I'm just making a factual statement at this point.
Go. >> Yes. I I have a question, a few short questions regarding the affordable units. Um, is there a notation either on the architectural plans or the engineering plans what the income mix would be of the unit? I know you
described one, two, and three bedrooms, but is there an associated u income level with each type of unit or you just simply going to follow the uniform uh housing uh affordability? >> Could likely follow the applicable U-Hack regulations, Mr. K?
>> Okay. >> And with respect to affordable housing, obviously there's no developers fee for the re residential portion of this development, >> correct? >> But there would be for the commercial portion. >> Yes. >> Okay. and and you would agree to pay that, >> correct?
>> Okay. Um, this was raised. Um, if if the board were to um approve this application, you would agree as a condition of approval to review the distribution of the affordable units uh in a different
manner than currently shown. Correct. >> Correct. We'll look into that. >> Okay. Where is the exter uh outdoor amenity area? So I seen general comments amenity area
built as an indoor amenity room, another indoor amenity room and access to the outdoor amenities on the residential first floor and an additional outdoor amenity area. >> So I believe that's referring to if uh if I can go back to the architectural
drawings uh on the first floor plan. So that's this amenity terrace uh on these two amenity terraces on the upper levels, >> but they're not outdoor. >> They're outdoor. >> It's exterior space. Yes. It's open to >> It's open to the sky.
>> All the way up. >> All the way up. >> Like an atrium. >> Correct. >> Provides light for the units as well. Yeah. Are there going to be is there going to be any outside patios? >> Uh like uh like private patios or bio?
>> No, no, no. For for example, the um commercial space if you have a restaurant, an outside patio, anything of that type. >> So the the commercial space opens directly to the sidewalk. So, we anticipate if there's a restaurant, they may have dining on the sidewalk
>> and that's that would be subject to approval by the council. >> We if that's required, Mr. Cruz, we follow all applicable ordinances. Um, if an outdoor seating space for a restaurant use requires approval of council, we'd have to obtain that
approval. >> I asked because I forget when CO um came back. No, it's a valid point. those rules were all changed, right? >> And I can't remember whether it was a permanent change or or just a temporary change.
>> Um >> I have one more question. Um on this drawing, the amenity space, how big is that? I can't see the square footage of that. >> Uh the the amenity terraces on the upper levels there. Um >> space in the front >> says amenity space. This one here, the
one that I'm pointing to at the bottom, uh, 3,39 square ft. >> So, I'm a little stuck on the retail space of the 2100T on the amenity space on the first floor where you said there's going to be a gym. Could that be split into a gym space of 2100 ft square
feet and maybe additional 1,700 for, I don't know, you're going to put games, uh, you said a game room or something like that. >> You know what we could do? we could agree to consider retail in that amenity space on the first floor but not be required to put retail in there just
simply because if we can't find sufficient retail attendants for all those spaces we want to be able to keep that as amenity space and keep in mind too the existing retail space is relatively large I mean it shows one right now but that could be three or
four different tenants depending on on the use and how that's divided Just a quick question back on the retail space. Would that run into parking issues then? Because you're going to need to park additional cars for the additional retail space.
>> Excuse me. Excuse me. If you want to make a comment, there's a public comment period. If you have a question, then you can you can ask the question. >> We can have uh the traffic engineer address the the uh parking issue. When would that occur?
>> We have uh him here tonight. So >> tonight, so you would Martinez, correct? >> Okay. >> So if the board were inclined to do this as a condition of compliance review, you would review the parking, the the amenities.
Is that what you're saying? >> Correct. A first floor amenity space. >> First floor, >> the ground level. ground level. >> Can you bring that plan up on the screen? >> No, it's not.
Is that plan up? Yeah, we we have the the ground floor plan A1 sheet A1 of of A4. >> I'm sorry, this area here. So you have uh one, two, three, four spaces along I assume these are the ones you're referring to the the ones directly adjacent to the this yellow
amenity space or four um spaces in this area. Um and then one, two, three, four, another eight uh over here. better. restaurants. I don't know.
possible. >> We could have the traffic engineer talk uh about that, but I think we're getting into an issue here now where we may be deficient in parking if we eliminate those spaces. >> Correct. But I I think we're I don't know that we have too much in the way of excess parking spaces.
>> Jim, can you speak into the mic? >> That's without the >> All right. Board board. No, no side comments. Paul, on the record, if you've got something to say. >> Um, we Sorry about the sidebar
conversation. There was a conversation discussing between us about the availability of of parking should the amenity area be converted to retail. And I believe Mr. Troutman said there was a five space surplus today. Um, you heard
the Mr. Um the site engineer initially testify as well regarding the the amount of um off- streetet parking that they did not take credit for the EV credit. So at least per the law um the parking
could additional parking could be credited per state law on the EV credit and not create a plan deviation under that pretense as well. But point being what the applicant said was that they were trying to meet the parking requirement without taking that EV
credit to their credit as well. >> Well, just to confirm uh to the extent that Mr. Okconor in his September 10th, 2025 report have any architectural comments, you'll comply with those. Uh, and the same thing is true with Mr. Ricky's September 25, 2025 report. To
the extent there are architectural comments in there, you'll you'll comply with those. >> Yes, there was a comment about uh bicycle parking and and uh a cover for the bicycle parking. Um, you didn't address that. How are you going to uh address bicycle parking? Um I apologize
if I missed that. Um I believe there's uh proposed bike racks to be in the garage which were not identified on the parking plan. Um but we we will provide bike racks uh inside the garage. >> We know approximately where those would go on the plan or >> um so we need to just finalize some
utilities and things like that, but there's some open areas. For example, at the the northeast corner of the garage here, we we allocated a space which could be used uh as well as some other areas along the the layout. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. One other thing I I saw in the notes, the the units facing the
interior, are they going to have balconies or No, >> no, none of the So, it'll be just a window or just Okay. >> Okay. Seeing no other questions of the board, uh, anyone from the public wishing to come forward and address the
testimony of this witness, please do so. General comments can be made at the end. Please come forth. State your name and address. >> Barbara White, 7 Harding Avenue. Um, when you were saying about the trash with the compactor, is there going to be
a recycle unit? >> Yes. >> That will be separate. >> You have to speak into our >> uh I'm asking if they'll have a recycle unit by the trash. >> Yeah. So, the so there's a there's a on each of the floors there's a trash shoot and then there's a recycling shootute as well. So, somebody would deposit
recycling goes right into the dumpster. Um, you showed what the front of the building will look like. I'm going to be looking at the back of the building for my property. What's that going to look like? >> So, we have We don't have a colorized rendering. I can show you the elevations, but the idea is it's all the
same architecture. It's all the same materials. It's all the same colors and finishes. So, it's the same around all four sides. >> Okay. >> But with no color in it. Okay. >> The the image we have, we only have one color image. Yes. >> Why don't you bring it up for >> Sure.
So um this is drawing A6. This is the this here would be the front elevation. So this is Westfield Avenue. So if we go through the other pages, um this would be along um Broadway, I believe. No, I'm
sorry. This would be the the right side elevation. This would be the Broadway elevation and this would be the Joseph Street elevation. So, you can't appreciate the
colors on on these images, but as you can see, it's all the same um the same architectural features and uh materials. >> And um how close is the building to the actual curb of Broadway?
the build the building itself. >> So I would have to refer to the civil engineers drawing. Um, so on Broadway, his um proposed setback is
11.9 ft to the property line. Um, the property line appears to be pretty close to the front of the parking spaces. So, let's round that to 12 feet um to the parking. So, from the building to that
property line again on the front of the building, I was at a meeting a while, yes, a couple of years ago where it showed retail on one side and retail on the other, either a th00and or 2,000 square feet each. Now
you're going to have a gym looking out onto Westfield Avenue, possibly a gym and gym equipment out there. That doesn't sound very pretty. >> Um, so I mean I think from from the exterior it'll look like a retail space.
It could be a public gym. Um, it's all going to be the same type of glass type of glazing that you would have on a on on the on a retail space. Yeah, but you're going to look at people on on bikes and treadmills are lifting weights. That doesn't that doesn't seem very good
to me. That's it right now. Thank John Rafo 40 Broadway. Uh could you just mentioned the the height again of the >> uh it was just under 50 ft I believe uh 49.92 >> and um what's a typical two-story house
height plus or minus? I know it's varies but 25 ft >> I think 35 is typical zoning requirement for a two-story house. So, this will look that and I know you don't control I think you mentioned it's part of the red development plan you're in compliance with.
>> That's right. >> Okay. >> Permitted 52. >> Well, let's Yeah. I don't want you looking into my daughter's bedroom. That's the challenge, right? So, the height um is there anything that we can do to accommodate a lower height?
>> I don't know. Drop a floor. >> That would result in substantial reduction in >> that would result in a substantial reduction in the units. And again, this is in compliance with the zoning requirements, right? Okay.
Uh, balconies you mentioned, yes or no? >> No balconies. >> No balconies. Windows open, windows close, >> meaning operable. They're operable. >> They're operable windows. Okay. >> And then I should have asked this maybe I don't know if you know time for construction if approval like how long
does it something like this usually take? I should have asked Travis, but I I two years I couldn't tell you for sure. The would help to >> Okay. Thank you. >> James Skolo, 73 Holiday. Can you bring up the uh parking garage again? Sure.
>> 73 Holiday Street. Oops, sorry missed. >> Now is 138 is set number of apartments or can that be that downsized? If you take away these parking spaces to the right and add um the uh retail as M Mr.
Trail has said you can downsize some apartments and then you can have enough spaces for smaller apartments and then more uh retail on the on the ground floor. Is that a possibility? >> So I'm not sure I can answer that as an
architect whether you know I mean this is the project that we have. I I don't know that uh I'm the person to answer that. >> Just to add to that um I don't think even if we reduce those parking spaces that would result in a reduction in units. Um, and we'll have our traffic engineer touch on the whole
>> parking space issue. >> He was saying you need uh 1.7 uh spaces for apartments, right? >> Correct. >> And uh the gentleman before me, he said he lives on Broadway and that part backing up will be impossible. If you downsize the building a little bit, take away some apartments and make retail in
the whole first floor, you should have enough spaces for apartments and spaces for people to come and go to the the retail stores cuz we don't have paid parking like Westfield and Cranford do. We don't they don't none of these spaces will go back to the community. They give
back to Clark when they come in and >> we can have our traffic engineer talk about all those issues. >> All right. Just want to see a possibility or not. Thank you. Anyone else wish to come forward? Seeing no one.
>> Gabrielle Aruda again, 33C Parkway Drive. I'm uh wondering if there's any possibility to have the with the availability of time before the building is constructed to see that one of the
retail spaces is uh sorry I'm working on it. um that one of the retail spaces could um if you could help support a Clark resident to start a business that would somehow um better, you know, generate more
well-being for the community because I hear the word revitalization um being spoken and I'm not sure what we're what we're going after. At the end of the day, it's a >> question. Do you have a question? An architectural question. It's only so I again it's the first time I've ever ever
come to one of these meetings. So I only have be able to direct questions to them and not to you guys in relation to what could happen. >> Correct. It's it's a questions for the witness if >> his testimony. >> Understand >> your general you have like a general statement which sounds like a nice one.
At the end of everything you could come up and make any statement within reason that you would like and this sounds like that would be at that time because it's not a true architectural question. So, as the property owners, and that's you, not you, right? >> I'm the attorney.
>> Oh, the attorney. Okay. The attorney can't say anything, >> but the but the property owners would be could potentially lobby the state for funding to be able to provide some kind of uh more creative use of retail space
where the property owners are making their rent, which I can't imagine would be that my parents own the oldest building in downtown Cranford. It, you know, rent is is rent. I feel like it's would be more expensive in Cranford than it would be in Clark to rent out a space
where we could actually do something to improve the lives of the citizens of Clark and actually create more of a downtown as a priority given the tax incentives that everybody is getting to be here so that the the community would get something out of it.
>> That's a comment, not a question for the architect. You can make it at the end. You can also take it up with the c township council. >> Hey, thank you sir. >> Hi Coron Sevoka 46 Broadway. Uh I was just wondering why could you put the park in this island once in front of
Westfield A cuz you have all your stores in the front. You want to make that like a downtown now you got parking in the back. Why could you put the, you know, the park and like all the sidewalks all down Westfield A? >> Is there an architectural question for
this witness? That sounds like a traffic engineer question. So, you have >> whatever. Okay. >> So, do you have a question for this witness? >> No. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. There's been some discussion back and forth as to the retail. Um, and I'd like to ask Mr. Ricky a question.
Does the redevelopment plan provide for a specific amount or square footage of retail or is that left to the discretion of the developer property owner? >> Want to confirm, Mr. Mr. cruise, but
there is no um specific requirement in the in the plan. And that's something that was um historic for the plan when it was initially adopted in 2019. I did pull up
the old plan for the property while sitting here, and you know, the the board is accurate. The old approval I believe had 7,850 square feet of commercial space compared to what's it 5800 square feet today. So
there's a there is a reduction from the previous plan. >> Is there any requirement in the uh DTV zone for uh commercial space on the first floor with uh units residential units above it? In terms of the the amount of space, no, it's it's it's
written with a use basis that that use has to be, you know, dedicated for, you know, not non-residential commercial purposes. Um so what's really occurring here is um the the amount of parking that's required for the for the residential
spaces at at 1.7 spaces per unit. You know arguably is a conservative amount of parking for for this type of land use. Um, historically what I've seen in u since I've been involved in the town and and at previous projects
that the town is quite concerned about delivering adequate parking for for residential uses and the way that this project is set up it it's set up that all the parking is really on the interior of the building dedicated for
that purpose. So if um what you're almost suggesting in a matter of speaking is is there the ability to to share some of that space and I don't think that's the intent of the applicant here. Um so um to
encourage the retail and to have additional parking that's why you see the streetscape um the angled parking being proposed in a public purpose to to assist in the purpose these purposes in this size space. I always thought with the wide
sidewalks at 5,800 square feet it's almost perfect for a nice restaurant is what it is. Uh, I'm not sure if the applicant is at liberty to discuss any type of future tenants here, but it it seems like it's a it's a restaurant type
of it seems like would fit quite well. But so what I'm really trying to say is that you have um competing uh interests, parking, retail. Um, and I think if you wanted to
encourage more retail, you would have to reduce the amount of parking that's being required for those residential units. So, it comes to be what is the township's objective here, more or less. Um, >> but but the redevelopment plan does not
address a specific amount of retail. >> Yes. But I just wanted to say some of those additional um thoughts that that you have to consider. It's not as easy to just say, "Hey, we want more retail." Something would have to be given back
for that to occur. >> Mr. Chairman, before we get to our next witness, which would be our traffic engineer, I think we're running on close to two hours here. Could we take like maybe a five to 10 minute recess so we could maybe talk over the issues internally regarding the
retail and parking and come back? We could give you a 10-minute recess. >> Thank you. >> When are we coming back? >> 9:30. >> 9:30. [Music]
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[Music] [Music] Before [Music] we moved on to our traffic engineer, I just want to have uh Mr. Martinez just briefly go over a proposal that uh we
have um taking into consideration some of the comments from the board members about um eliminating uh additional parking spaces to create about 3600 square ft of retail at the corner of the property. and we'll have our traffic engineer talk about the the
traffic impacts of that, but uh Mr. Martinez, if you could just briefly go over what we'd be proposing. >> Sure. So, again, >> so again, uh on the ground floor plan on exhibit A1, uh what the applicant is
proposing is to take the uh the parking at this area, uh which is a total of 12 parking spaces, eliminate those and replace it with additional retail space. So that would be uh resulting in roughly
an additional 3600 square ft of retail space. Um and I think in addition it would also satisfy one of the concerns about the facade uh where it would continue the the the look of the of the windows across. So again roughly uh 3600 ft² additional elimination of 12 parking
spaces >> that include the amenity space >> and I'm sorry the amenity space would remain this would be 3 3600 square feet in addition to that. So the amenity space would be there and then to the right of that would be additional retail space. >> Right. So generally if we were to take
that that yellow area and just stretch it out to the to the east it would um expand that that that use. >> I know it's hard to say right now without re rer rendering, but would that almost include the same type of entrance
from the corner as on the southwest side >> or would that be a frontage entrance? No, I think it would be just the regular entrance with the awnings that we have. I I think having that unique element on the corner should stand. So that's not something you're considering. That's something you'd be
offering us. >> Yes, that's something that's being proposed. Yes. >> Does that offer result in any waiverss or deviations or variances? >> No. um if we take a an EV credit or a
partial EV credit and we'll have our our traffic engineer talk about that but um provided we take the EV credit there would be no variances or design waiverss. >> Do you agree with that Mr. Ricky? >> We we'll confirm Mr. Trump but yes I agree and with my knowledge of this
project yes >> thank you for taking the time to do that. Um any other discussion on this matter hearing none you can bring your next witness up. >> Thank you. have our traffic engineer next. >> Please write your your right hand. Uh,
repeat after me. I state your name. >> I, Nicholas Kennedy, >> solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> I will tell the truth. >> I will tell the truth. >> Nothing but the truth. >> And nothing but the truth. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. State your full name, spell it, and your employer.
>> Sure. It's Nicholas Kennedy. N I C H O L A S. Kennedy is keen ny. I'm a project manager at Stonefield Engineering and Design. It's located at 92 Park Avenue in Rutherford, New Jersey. >> Mr. Kennedy, if you could just briefly
for the board state your education, experience, and lensure. >> Absolutely. I'm a licensed professional engineer in the state of New Jersey. My license is current and in good standing. I hold a bachelor of science in civil engineering from >> motion to accept. >> Second. All in favor? >> Any opposed? May continue.
>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Kennedy, I believe you have exhibit A2 before you. If you could just briefly go through um an overview of the traffic. >> Sure. So, not to repeat, sorry, just getting set up. Not to repeat too much of the testimony that was already given,
but um the site as it exists today is a it's an old grocery store. the uh the AM grocery store. The existing site also has a bank which is located on the corner of Westfield A and Joseph Street. Um really what you have is the property is bounded by Westfield Avenue to the
south, Joseph Street to the west, and then Broadway to the north. Um again, as Trevor mentioned, there's five curb cuts on the site today. There's one full movement driveway on Westfield Avenue that's closed. It's fenced off today. Uh there's an ingress only driveway to the
bank. Uh again on Westfield Avenue. There's an egress only driveway or sorry there's a full movement driveway on Joseph Avenue to the bank and then there's two full movement driveways on Broadway. So again that's just to give it a little context about what's on the site today, the existing curb cuts that
exist um and really an overarching um look at how the property uh looks in its current state. As far as what's proposed on the project um or on the site, 138 units, as we went over, ground level parking, um and then
floors 2 through 4 would contain the residential units. Um there's been obviously a lot of discussion about the retail space, which at this point is close to 9,000 square ft, I believe. Um when you when you look at adding the uh the retail space on the right, it's
about 9,000 square ft. And really what we're trying to do as far as access on this site is consolidate the curb cuts that already exist. So as part of pedestrian safety and vehicular safety, the more access points you have is the more conflicting points um along a
roadway network. Obviously, as I mentioned, there's five exist existing access points, and we're limiting that down to two. So we have the what will be a rightin, right out driveway on Joseph and then a full movement driveway on Broadway. Um, one of the the parts of
this application is converting Joseph Street into a one-way northbound roadway. Uh, really the idea behind this was as part of the redevelopment plan, angled parking is required along Joseph Street. I believe it's 11 total spaces. Um, and the the width that we have along
that roadway, you can only have one way with angled parking spaces. So what we did was along our frontage we would angle the parking spaces at uh 45 degrees and then provide one lane of northbound travel. Uh what we really also wanted to
understand is how would this affect the traffic volumes on Joseph but also in this not only on Joseph but also in the surrounding area. So obviously people today could drive southbound on Joseph between Broadway and Westfield. They could drive northbound between or from Westfield to Broadway. um and that
southbound movement would be eliminated. What we found when we went out there, we conducted counts is Broadway or Joseph, sorry, is is not a very highly utilized roadway. There was about 30 cars within the peak hour that traveled southbound, most of which were turning right,
probably towards the parkway. Um and what we what we looked at in the general area is this area kind of operates as a grid. You have Westfield Avenue, which is the Southerntherly Roadway, and Broadway up to the north. And then there's about 12 streets that connect
the two. Most of which are two-way streets. Obviously, Joseph Street here would be converted to oneway. Um, and what you're going to see in the future, if Joseph gets converted to oneway northbound, is those southbound vehicles will use any number of the different
streets that are, you know, to the east or to the west to travel between the two roadways. It's our understanding that they'd probably be dispersed throughout the roadway network. And again, this is this is not a highly utilized roadway. You get about one car every two to three
minutes. Um so we don't think that that conversion from a two-way roadway into oneway northbound will cause a sign significant impact to the roadway network as a whole. Um, moving on to the parking, which I I suppose has changed a little since the
beginning of the plan, but in total we have 77 tandem spaces. So, a total of 144 or 154 parking spaces. Um, if you look at them as tandem, that's 77 tandem spaces. And then 82 regular parking
spaces. So, obviously not tandem. Uh that's a total of sorry 236 parking spaces. We have agreed to eliminate 12 of those which brings us down to 224 parking spaces. We are
required 235 parking spaces. Uh looking at the EV credits um we can take a credit for up to 23 spaces which brings our parking requirement down to 212 spaces. So we would provide in the updated plan with the additional um
retail space we would provide 224 and we would require 212 when taking that credit into account. Um looking at the on street parking spaces again we are required by the redevelopment plan to provide angled parking spaces both on
Joseph and on Broadway. The total count was 11 on our plan is 11 spaces on Joseph and 16 spaces on Broadway. We also provide a total of 11 parallel parking spaces on Westfield Avenue for a total of 38 on street
parking spaces. Uh not all striped out, but just to give some context, today between the three streets, Broadway, Joseph, and Westfield, there's only about 18 uh on street spaces. So, we're more than doubling the on street parking in the general vicinity of our site.
Again, I just want to reiterate that we are required by the redevelopment plan to provide those angled spaces along both Joseph and Broadway. And with the closing of the curb cuts on Westfield, we're providing an additional three or four parking spaces on Westfield Avenue.
Again, a loading zone would be provided uh along Westfield Avenue, 45 ft. It would be used for move in, move outs, deliveries, and the like. Uh trash would be privately hauled and coordinated with um the property manager. That would be
picked up likely on Joseph Street uh utilizing the the driveway there. Um and again, that would all be coordinated with building management. It would be wheeled out, picked up, and uh the the trash would go on its way. I just want to try to touch on a couple
things uh that were brought up. The the retail space associated with this project and this redevelopment plan doesn't necessarily have its own parking requirement. The requirement is 1.7 spaces per unit that we comply with. And
obviously changing the plan a little, we comply with the EV credit. There's no actual requirement for square footage of what the retail space needs in terms of parking. I think the idea of the redevelopment plan and uh requiring the on street angled space on Broadway and
on Joseph was that would cover uh the parking that would be needed for the retail space. Again, we do provide just in the vicinity of our site and along our frontage on those three roads 38 parking spaces for about 9,000 square feet of retail. It's about uh four
spaces per thousand square feet give or take. Uh which again I I think is more than sufficient. Obviously these spaces are open for public use. They could be used for things across the street and whatnot, but I think we're trying to provide as much on street parking in
this area as we possibly can. Um really just to kind of put things in perspective and kind of tie a bow. Uh I think this plan really conforms with the redevelopment plan and the ideas within that redevelopment plan. Obviously, as
we mentioned, the parking is compliant. We're taking the EV credit at this point. We're providing the angled parking spaces on Joseph and Broadway. All the tandem spaces on this site will be assigned to two or threebedroom units. There will be no uh two one-bedroom units that would share a
tandem parking space. The tandem spaces would all be assigned to one individual unit. Uh we're promoting the pedestrian safety here. We're closing curb cuts. We're providing bumpouts at at the corner of Joseph and Westfield. Uh we have wide sidewalks 10 feet on Broadway
and Joseph, between 12 and 20 feet on Westfield. So, I think we're really promoting the pedestrian safety and walkability around the site. Um and again I this is a site that would not have a detrimental impact to the roadway network. Comparing the traffic volumes
albeit understanding that the grocery store has been closed for many years now. Um the traffic volumes at this site are substantially less than a grocery store. Um and again that's not to say that there won't be more traffic because again the grocery store is closed. But
it's more to say that this site has seen more traffic volume than this proposed development will generate. Again, that was 15 20 years ago. But again, it's a site that's seen this much traffic volume, and we're substantially less than that. Um, I've went over all the
review letters, the traffic review, the the engineering review, and the planning reviewer. Um, as far as traffic comments, they're they're fairly minimal. I think we touched on most throughout uh all of our testimony, but I have no issue complying with anything
within any of those three letters. >> Thank you, Mr. Kennedy. Um that's all we have in terms of direct testimony at this time. >> So, you're saying that the absence of any specific requirements on the commercial units, um you didn't consider that for parking requirements.
The redevelopment plan doesn't have a parking requirement that specifically says you need this many spaces per square feet. It just I think it contemplates the on street spaces being utilized for that retail space. What I will say with about 9,000 square ft of
retail, a 4 per thousand square foot um parking ratio is pretty sufficient for uh the size retail we'll have here. Again, obviously these aren't dedicated to just this retail space. Um, but I I think we're we're trying to maximize the amount of on street parking that we
have. >> I believe other applications have come before us and they've assumed usage in their commercial space. Um, so you're saying four spaces per thousand and there's 9,000 square feet. So be 36 more
parking spaces may be generated. >> Yeah. And that's what I think I'm saying the 38 parking spaces just that we have around the vicinity of our site. I think that's why the redevelopment plan contemplated those on street spaces that they would be utilized for that retail space. So we provide just on our
frontage 38 spaces out of four per,000 um square feet for 9,000 square feet of retail. Uh that would be about 36 parking spaces. >> Mr. Connor, do you have any thoughts on that or
>> I believe that's in compliance with our ordinance standards, >> but other applications, not this one, but other applications have come forward and used given us parking for their commercial spaces. They've given you parking for the
commercial space and these gentlemen have added 27 spaces that don't exist out there right now to account for that as angled parking. They don't exist, but there's space out there that cars could
It's not exactly that amount. Maybe they've increased it by a percentage, but there's still parking that could occur. Just normal street side parking. >> Correct. There's a their testimony is that there's a total of going to be a
total of 38 spaces provided after this project is completed and I believe you provided a number that there were >> Yeah. So, so today I think this will help clarify a little today with the
curb cuts that are in place right now there's about 18 parking spaces total around the frontage. So that counts Broadway, Joseph, which no parking is allowed on our side of the street, and Westfield. There's about 18 parking spaces. They're not all striped, so give
or take one or two. Um what we would have is 38 total striped parking spaces. So we're more than doubling the amount of parking around our perimeter uh compared to the existing condition. Again, that that goes along with the number of curb cuts we're reducing.
Obviously, today you can't block a curb cut. Um, so we're only h we only have two today. There's five. Um, and then obviously we're providing parking along Joseph where it doesn't exist today. And I'm sure the EV locations will be reconfigured with the changes here. Um,
there's 12 shown. How are they going to be assigned? They're not go they're going to be open all the time or they're going to be specifically assigned to a unit. >> They're usually signed and marked. Um, >> no. Assigned to a unit.
>> Assigned. Yeah. So, all of the parking will be assigned. So, if you have an EV car, um you know, that parking space could be assigned to you. Obviously, if you don't have an EV car, an EV space won't be assigned to you. >> So, they're not for general uses.
They're just specific to the apartment >> complex. I did notice one of the EVs were showed as a tandem unit. I guess a lucky person would have two electric cars.
>> I I think we could work to pick out the best EV spaces. I know that was part of the fire letter, too. So, we are more than happy to work with the engineer to pick out the best locations for the EV, but again, our idea is that all the spaces would be assigned. So, no EV car
would have to or no uh non-electric car would have to park in an EV space and vice versa. >> And you did mention that on Joseph Street the uh there's still parking prohibited on the apartment side as well as Broadway there's parking restrictions
times. I guess that's all been discussed and that'll be all lifted by the town on Broadway. You can't park from 1:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and then from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. It's a town sign, so I assume somebody's talked about lifting it.
>> Yeah, we'd have to, if necessary, we'd have to go back to the township council. Um, but that would be addressed as a condition of approval. >> Anyone else on the board have any questions, comments? >> I have one question. Um so Joseph Street
is now going to go from Westfield to Broadway. >> Correct. >> The street prior towards Rawway which is um Lincoln is also going from Westfield to uh Broadway. So we have two one ways consecutive streets. Is there any have
you done any study any thought about Joseph Street going the other way? One way >> I think the problem there is the businesses across the street. There's three driveways um on that side of the street going down Joseph. You would
never be able to fit the 11 parking spaces that are required with those driveways. And again, there there's multiple streets to the east and to the west that are two-way um that could facilitate facilitate southbound movements.
Any other questions from the board? >> Um, I have just I know you you indicated that it's been covered and I agree with you, but I'd specifically like you to address Mr. Troutman's letter of September 29, 2025.78
and 9 on page three. >> Absolutely. Let me just open it up. And actually, Albert, before he gets to that item two, it would have been nice if you could have submitted those traffic counts I asked for. Can you submit those, please? >> Absolutely. We can submit those.
>> 7 8 9. I'll start with seven. It's about the trash removal. Again, trash would be uh the trash room is located along Westfield. It would be um rolled to one of the driveways where it would be privately hauled off site. Uh move in, move out. Again, we have that uh loading
zone along Westfield. It's 45 ft long. Move in and move out would be scheduled. Um so that no two times overlap. Uh and obviously that's where your your typical moving truck, U-Haul, uh really of any size could fit in a 45 ft loading zone.
Um and deliveries, same thing. They would utilize that loading zone. Again, it's 45 ft. your typical uh FedEx, uh Amazon, UPS trucks, that's more than enough to accommodate the uh the sizes of those vehicles.
>> I don't have anything else. >> All right. Um seeing no other questions of board, if anyone from the public wishes to come forward and ask any questions of the specific testimony you just heard, please do so. Any general comments, concerns can be addressed
after all the witnesses have been >> Barb Barbara White, 7 Harding Avenue. Um, for the parking on Broadway, how much of the street's going to be cut off now? Because it's not a super wide street and
it's it's heavily trafficked. >> So, can you hear me? Oh, >> yep. >> So, the street heading eastbound is going to be 18 ft wide. For 60° parking, that's what is required. Um, you know,
as a traffic engineer, often streets are only 12 ft wide. So, we're providing more than ample space. Um, as far as street width heading in that direction. >> And I think there was a dimensional question from the public. They don't understand that the angled parking
spaces are eating into the rightway. That's how you're gaining the dimension. They're they're concerned that you're just putting angled spaces against the existing curb line where you're whereas you're recessing the curb line up against the rightway line to create that
add additional dimension and it does work. I verified it. >> Yeah. So, so the angled space is also uh a majority of where the angled spaces are today is sidewalk and landscaping.
Um, again, we'd provide an 18 foot lane, which is more than sufficient uh to accommodate movements there. >> Is that 18 feet total width of the street or just >> just heading eastbound? >> Just this one direction? >> Yes, just so just I'll say our side of
the street heading eastbound would be 18t wide. I I don't have an exact dimension. >> The street will still be 40 feet or so wide. >> Yeah, I I don't have an exact dimension, but it'll be 36 Broadway to 40. Um, how are they going to back out of
those spots? There's a lot of traffic. I can't even get out of my street and make a left turn onto Broadway. And I'm on Harding right behind you. >> Yeah. And that's now before you have all these This was very poorly planned. Uh,
it's it's too big. The scope of this is too big. Too many apartments, too many cars. What about when somebody in an apartment who only has the two cars can go in their space if they have it or if they have the one with a one space? What if they have company? Are they going to be coming
down my street and parking in front of my house? I don't want that. I don't want these extra cars. It's bad enough on Lionel Street around the corner from me. There's a grandfathered four family house with no off the street parking. There's no room for a driveway. My
husband shovels the snow in front of my house and they come and park in front of it and then I'm going to get other people from this apartment building and having their company coming in front of my house. I mean, you're ruining the values of our property. >> Is there a question? >> I'm not happy about it.
>> Is there a question? >> Yeah. Um, how are people going to what are you going to do when they start parking on the side streets in front of the residential houses? Are you going to do anything about it or are you going to put signs up residents only?
>> You could go before the council and ask for discuss it with them. In the other areas of the town, they've had resident permit where you have to get a permit. um when they had issues with the school in this area, uh they need permits to be parked across the street to keep the kids from parking there. So, the town
council will work with you um if that situation occurs. >> Um I'm not happy about it. Um let me see what else I had. Um Again, these are specific questions to his
testimony. If you have general comments that you don't like the project or you love the project, there will be an opportunity to state that. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Now, you you mentioned the bumpout on Broadway. Where is that going to
exist? >> Uh, if I said Broadway, I misspoke. I meant Westfield so I could show you real quick. Sorry. So the bumpout is here and that's really as Trevor mentioned pedestrian safety. It slows vehicles down from making this
turn and it generally just provides a wider and bigger pedestrian area at this corner. So it's really a safety mechanism. Obviously it also um kind of blocks off where the parallel parking spaces on Westfield are. So there's only one bumpout,
>> I believe. >> Only one, >> I believe. So, yes. >> Oh, I apologize. There is a bump out here, too. You'll see that the the landscape and the sidewalk goes up towards the end of those uh angled parking spaces and then down. So, again,
all for pedestrian uh measures in this area. And again, that was part of the redevelopment plan to enhance the uh the safety for pedestrians in this area. >> I I'm not a fan of bumpouts because on Lincoln Avenue, it's a mess. Uh let's
see. Um >> I guess that's all I had right now. Thank you. >> Thank you. Claire Lebruno, uh, 20 post. Um, my question was, you like referenced several times saying, uh, the redevelopment plan required the angle
parking on Joseph Street. Could you just clarify cuz I'm not familiar. When you say that, are you talking about like a town's redevelopment plan or you're talking about this project's specific redevelopment plan? It's not clear to me. I'm talking about the redevelopment
plan for this property and I could read the exact language out of the uh the plan. >> It's a township document. >> So So that's based on the township's requirements to meet the parking requ
parking aotment you need. Is that correct? So, in order for you to meet the town's required spots, it requires taking part of Joseph Street and
altering it. Okay. >> Yep. >> So, the next question is you spoke about the traffic study that you did on Joseph Street. Did you do any traffic study on West Avenue? because my concern is uh traffic traveling eastbound on Westfield
Avenue that's then going to turn onto Joseph Street. And I mean, frankly, if you go down Westfield Avenue almost any time of day headed in that direction, it is backed up. So I guess was there any
study detered the traffic on Westfield Avenue as in relation to you know what the plan is for the street? >> Yep. We we did traffic counts at actually both intersections. So Joseph Street with Broadway and Joseph Street
with Westfield. Um as I mentioned earlier, we're more than happy to submit those to the board. Um, but again, a a development like this, a residential development, uh, would not generate a substantial amount of traffic. Obviously, we have two driveways. So, you could use either the Broadway
driveway or the Joseph driveway. It wouldn't be every car coming into this site is making that left turn from Westfield onto Joseph and into the driveway. Uh, traffic would be more dispersed throughout the network than that. Um and again we're more than happy
to submit the counts uh that we conducted >> and and when you spoke about uh you know this site going to like I did shop at the when this was a grocery store. So when you say it's going to create like less traffic than the store had, it's a
little like what is that based on I guess? >> So essentially uh how traffic engineers analyze sites like this is we we project the trip generation of each site. How many cars go in? How many cars go out? When you look at the size of the grocery
store and again albeit it's been closed for some time now. When you look at the size of the grocery store that existed on the site and you look at how many units would be on this site, uh the grocery store generates substantial more traffic than a residential development.
Um again, I I can't mention enough. We do understand the grocery store has been closed. It's more to say that a this property specifically has seen traffic volumes greater than 138 unit development uh would generate. Okay. >> Thank you.
Hello. Uh, John Grie, 30 Parkway Drive. Um, I actually had a question on Joseph Street. So, you have these um spots that are taking up the street. Um, I guess one question would be is like the benefit to the town for giving that
space up is just the additional spots that were created by the angle. I'm trying to figure because we're kind of giving up a little piece of the town's land, right? >> So, the extra spots that's sort of the benefit for the cost. >> And I'll I'll I'll address that
question. And what has occurred as has been described is this property went through the redevelopment process. There was a a study done as to whether or not the property as a whole met the
redevelopment criteria. The planning board reviewed that study in a public hearing, recommended to the council that it designate the property as an area in need of redevelopment. The next step after that is preparing a redevelopment plan which is specific to
this property and it acts like a mini master plan. It also acts as an ordinance. The council introduced the redevelopment plan as an ordinance. That ordinance was referred to the planning board for review as to whether or not it
was substantially consistent with the master plan. The planning board found that the redevelopment plan for this property was substantially consistent with the master plan and referred it back to the council and the council then adopted the redevelopment plan. The
redevelopment plan specifically says on page 13 parking requirements and it talks about uh non-residential no off- streetet parking is required rather angle parking improvements shall be made on the shall be made on the easterly
side of Joseph Street right ofway and the southern side of Broadway rightway. A minimum of 11 on street angle parking uh spaces shall be provided on Joseph Street and 14 angled on street uh spaces
on Broadway for public use. That is what this testimony has centered on. Okay. And it is the council, not this board, the council adopting what is in essence a zoning ordinance for this property and setting
forth the parking requirements both off street and on street. >> Okay. So that cost benefit was weighed by the council previously and that's how that that came about. >> Whatever the council does in analyzing the costs and benefit of a zoning
ordinance, that's what occurred here. The law presumes that the council knows what parking requirements are needed, what the traffic requirements are needed, and they act accordingly. And so that was
the basis for this this re the basis for the testimony you've heard and back and forth is all on the redevelopment plan. >> Okay. Thank thank you for clarifying that. It's very very good explanation. Um uh one other question I had and I I think you maybe an answer is um so
that's the one side of Joseph Street, right? Those are those spots, but right now you could park on the shoulder on the other side of Joseph Street. Would this narrowing of the street make it so that you don't have parking on the other side of the street? I know this is like kind of on the edge of what you're doing there, but
>> correct. Uh you you wouldn't be able to park on what I'll call the left side of Joseph Street. Um, it's 15 feet proposed. So, you know, taking that back eight feet to try to put parallel parking spaces wouldn't work. What I will say is that the parking provided on
Joseph Street with the 11 spaces that we have that are angled is far more than the parallel parking spaces or presumably parallel parking spaces that are there now, I think, >> but only on one side. So do you count is that counting the side the parallet you would have on the other side of Joseph
Street too or was that counting more compared to >> Currently the right side of >> Joseph Street is a no parking >> can't park on the right side of Joseph Street. So the left side >> there's about five spots that you could probably use on the left side and 11 spots are greater than those five. So
we're probably getting a net of five or six spots. >> Exactly. >> Okay. And then just finally you know the angled spots um they're a little different than parallel parking. um how is that going to affect like snow is actually the first thing I was thinking about with this. Um I'm sure there's
some idea. I just was curious what um changes or adjustments like DPW or anything might have to do. >> It's a great question. Um snow would obviously have to be removed from them. There's a few landscape areas that they could be um either snow blown or
shoveled into uh kind of around the angled spaces. Uh that could all be coordinated with uh you know property management um and the township. >> Okay, that was that was it. Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it. >> Thank you.
>> Hi Eric Rodriguez Bartell. So I have just one question um regarding where the trash room is located and you know trafficking the trash from there to one of the uh egress driveways. Are there any potential, you know, health concerns
or anything with that amount of volume of trash having to be, you know, ced that way as opposed to had they located the trash room closer to those locations? >> I don't think I'm particularly the person to answer this question. What I
can say is I've worked on hundreds of residential projects very similar to this. Uh it's not necessarily a very far distance that it would be essentially traveling. Um, as far as the health concerns, um, I'm a traffic
engineer, so it's not really in my my realm. >> Thank you. >> Times the charm. >> Hi again, Gabrielle Ruda, 33C Parkway Drive. Um, when you work on Joseph Street, will you're gonna have to jackhammer up the street to change its
orientation in some manner? >> Um, possibly. The actual construction, how it would be constructed is is not determined yet. Um, but obviously that would go through the township and and all the the agencies that it would for
would have to um as far as construction of the roadway. >> Gotcha. I was just wondering if any consideration had gone into the um dry cleaners that have been across the street for decades and the use of perk which is now um uh legal I think with
the EPA rule is is not allowing people to use it after 2024. So, the um chance that the ground might be contaminated with perk and then if that's dug up and then what would happen to the project if
it ends up being um contaminated land there? >> A civil engineering question, but um I believe that we've looked into that issue. You know, we've done the appropriate due diligence and there's no contamination on the
site. Anyone else, please come forward. State your name and address. John Rafoa, the 40 Broadway. You guys should know it by now, but uh couple things. So,
just want to point out uh I won't say that then. Um so, we are we we are indeed cutting into the property. It's not the existing curb line that's there for the for the angled parking on Broadway, right? We're cutting in, right? Because that's the existing right here where the green is. That's existing
curb. Am I interpreting that correctly? >> Let me just flip back to the uh the existing conditions plan. So the existing curb line is right here. Oh, sorry. That's the the walkway. The
existing curb line is here where kind of this red line is. Now the proposed I believe is actually in the same spot. And really what we're doing is putting the parking in this area that you you see grass here. I
guess where the fingers are. You see the concrete walk and then there's some additional space between the property line and the sidewalk. That's where the angled parking space are going. The actual width of Broadway is not getting smaller. It's the same size. It'll be 18
ft wide in uh you could go ahead. >> Yeah. No, I I get it. But so where the curve is today where someone could technically you're we're not doing that. We're getting rid of that. Yeah. That's what >> we're cutting into the property which is fine. That was just clarifying.