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All right, let's call this meeting to order. Nice and hard there. Jeremy, would you mind doing the pledge? Please stand and face the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

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and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I'll have Pastor Keith Capizzi from Club Zion do the invocation. Let's pray. Father, we thank you that we can come to you.

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We thank you that you hear us, Lord, and you told us that you not only do you hear us, but you will show us great and mighty things we do not know. Lord, we just ask that that same purpose in you would be reflected in this meeting today. I pray for our commissioners, our city mayor, our city

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attorney, the clerk, and our city manager, Lord, that all of them would work together in unison, Lord, that you would give them all wisdom and discernment to make the greatest decisions for this city to flourish and to be prosperous. We thank you, Lord. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

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All right, city roll call. Commissioner Jackson. Here. >> Commissioner Hutson. >> Here. Commissioner Smalts. Here. Vice Mayor Williams. Here. Mayor Capizzi. Here. Move to approve the agenda. Second. Motion and second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Wait, they There we have

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somebody wants to pull item. Is it adjustment? >> No. Oh. So, what? Item was pulled. Oh, yeah, yeah. Janice Scott pulled the SO. So, move move it for the agenda minus

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>> my agenda. Okay. Motion to pull the item >> Yeah. after I received my Second. So, H2 is pulled. All right. >> I second that. Okay. Okay. Motion sustained for the agenda minus H2.

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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Um So, we have a stroll presentation. Proclamation proclaiming the month of April as a water conservation

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month. And I'll read that here. So, whereas section 2- Nope. Is that the wrong one? What is this? Oh, shoot. Okay. Sorry about that. Wrong wrong proclamation. Wrong one. Whereas water is a basic and essential

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need of every living creature, and whereas the state of Florida Water Management District and the city of Cocoa Beach are working together to increase awareness about the importance of water conservation, and whereas the city of Cocoa Beach and the state of Florida have designated April, typically a dry month when water

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demands are most acute, Florida's water conservation educate educate citizens about how they can help save Florida's precious water resources, and whereas the city of Cocoa Beach has always encouraged and supported water conservation through its educational

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programs and special events, and whereas every business, industry, school, and citizen can make a difference when it comes to conserving water, and whereas every business, industry, school, and citizen can help by saving water and thus

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promote a healthy economy and community, and whereas outdoor irrigation comprises a large portion of water use, the city of Cocoa Beach will encourage citizens and businesses to focus on improving outdoor irrigation efficiency. Now, therefore, be it resolved that by

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virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of Cocoa Beach, I do hereby proclaim the month of April as Water Conservation Month. The city of Florida city of Cocoa Beach, Florida, call upon all residents and businesses to help protect our precious

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water resources by practicing water saving measures and increasing awareness of the importance of conservation. In recognition recognition of the 28th year of Water Conservation Month, this year's focus will be on ensuring that outdoor

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irrigation systems operate efficiently by using properly functioning rain shutoff devices. By making sure that these uni- using properly functioning by these devices are installed, connected, and working as intended,

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community can prevent unnecessary watering, reduce waste, and make better use of the rainfall we receive. Does this go to Brad or It's Okay. Here you go, sir. All right.

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Any public comments about items that are not on the agenda? Janice. Come on down. Thank you. Janice Scott, Cocoa Beach. Hello, everybody. Um I first of all, it's coincidental to

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follow up on the pre- on the special presentation or proclamation you read, but Mike Mike Jack it's on the Indian River Lagoon on table, and he presented this document to the County

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Commission at the last meeting. He is going to be back on May 5th, so if you can go back and watch the tape or something, listen to what he has to say. He's basically suggesting that everybody get together, especially Space X and Blue Origin, quit dumping

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110,000 gallons of what was potable water in the lagoon every day, or building their own waste water and retention ponds, that it be a central effort at this by the Space Port Authority. Uh

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it's really good ideas in here, so you all have a copy, you can read up on it, Space Florida, all the agencies that operate out of there, NASA. And I guess Skip Williams would be tired. Yay. So, okay. About that, uh

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there'll be more. What Just watch the news. I have a comment to make about um giving $5,000 in kind um to Thunder on the Beach via Jenny Pruitt at the meeting before last.

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And what I basically feel about that, it's what I in kind services cost the city. Maybe a thousand, 800, a thousand, 1,200 dollars from everybody's ad valorem taxes comes to the city. The city really doesn't get much money out of ad

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valorem. Whatever paying, a lot goes to the county. And um you know that Thunder on the Beach had already received $45,000 from the TDC. They didn't need our 5,000 in kind or anything. I don't know if that's a good

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old boy thing, stay in the group, or whatever. However, um Thunder on the Beach used to be a 501c3. Now it's an LLC, where the participants can actually get more money out of. It's

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private creation, not a 501c3 charitable. Thank you. Thank you, Janice. Any other comments? All right. Staff reports. Good evening, Mayor and Commission. Um not much to report tonight, other than we had a successful air show over

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the weekend. Um our estimates from Justin and our public safety crew uh showed that we had about 150,000 people here each day on Saturday and Sunday. Um we had some EMS calls, a couple of uh

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children that were lost from their parents, but were found later, and a boat that almost sunk. Other than that, everybody did well. We had a safe weekend on the air show. Um that's all for tonight. Um city attorney. Um nothing tonight. Thank you.

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City Commission. Yeah, I'll just say a few things to pray for the families. On Tuesday, there was an unfortunate event that happened on Fourth Street, so I know it can't be easy to do when you're on vacation, but hopefully we won't have any more incidents this summer. All right, thank you.

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All right, and that that boat that almost sunk wasn't mine. All right, um keep it going tonight. Get it going. Uh consent agenda. Okay, there's only one item left on the consent agenda, and that is item one,

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approve the March 19, 2026 and April 2nd, 2026 Commission meeting minutes. Staff representative, city clerk department. Move to approve consent agenda. Second. Motion and second, all in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes 5-0.

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Um I have a pardon for that. Items removed from from the consent agenda. Okay. Um the item removed from the consent agenda is item two, approve the following memorandums of understanding MOUs, school resource officer SRO services for the 2026-2027

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[clears throat] school year, School Board of Brevard County and City of Cocoa Beach. One-year MOU for SRO services with reimbursement of $77,000 for SRO for up to two SROs, aligning with the School Board's agreement with

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the Brevard County Sheriff's Office. Move to approve item two. >> City City of Cocoa Beach and City of Cape Canaveral, one-year MOU to share the cost of the SRO assigned to Cocoa Beach Junior Senior High School. These are budgeted items for fiscal year 27.

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Staff representative, Chris Kuhn, police chief, recommendation approve. And I believe there is um a comment on this one. Move to approve item two as read. Second. Motion and second. Janice. So, when we started doing this uh SRO cost sharing,

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it was the high school in Roosevelt. And then now I guess we're paying also for Freedom 7, so that makes the two, correct? No. >> Who are the two? Roosevelt and the high school. Roosevelt and the school. And so we don't pay at

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all for Freedom 7? No. Okay, so we pay Do we pay the entire share for Roosevelt? No. We're sharing that with Cape Canaveral because it said on the agenda only one for the high school. No, we share that with Cape Canaveral as well. So, because Okay, I just want

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wanted clarification about who the two were that were put in the budget. Yes, ma'am. >> Since the kids from Cape Canaveral will be going to Roosevelt this year, and uh we want to share everybody is safe. Thank you. Thank you, Janice. For Yeah, that is correct. Um if I may, Janice,

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also Hannah was in contact with the Canaveral um finance interim finance director today as well, just confirming all those numbers, but we get those numbers from Chief Kuhn gets those numbers from the school board, who then gives them to Hannah, who then works with the numbers and gives the percentage. Okay?

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This is the same as last year. We've always split shared with Canaveral, right? So, the fact that their kids are coming That is correct, and it's an increase. They actually gave us an increase this year from the state, so. Good. Okay. Move to approve two as read. Second. Motion is on the table. All right, you got to vote on this. You got to vote on

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this. You got a motion and a second, so um any any other public comment? In favor? Aye. Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Uh unfinished business. Okay. Um item one, adopt ordinance 1712

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on second reading, an ordinance of the city of Cocoa Beach, Florida, changing start time for regular meetings of the City Commission to 6:00 p.m., providing for conflict, severability, non-codification, and an effective date. Commission representative, Jeremy Hutcheson, commissioner, recommendation adopt on second reading. Move to approve

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J1 as read. Second. Motion and second, any public comment? All right, uh It's roll call. Oh, roll call, okay. Used to be that when it started at 7:00, after 3 hours of the meeting, at 10:00 we had to vote

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to continue or not. So, uh it's like to offer an amendment to the motion to include that we would not go past 9:00 without a vote of the Commission. I think just change to 3 hours

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I put 3 hours to 3 hours. I don't see it in the wording. So, in it was in the commission will be I sent to Karen the red lines. Just for the record, we're stating it. If it Yeah, so if the just like just like No, if it goes to 10:00, we have to vote to extend it, so

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we we put in there instead of the the actual time, we just put if it extends more than 3 hours, cuz sometimes we might even start at a different time, so we just want to make it the 3 hours. All right, any other public comment? All right, uh Did my amendment fail?

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I'll second that. To make it a 3-hour 3-hour duration. I'll second that. I thought we already had that in there, but okay. Uh roll call. Commissioner Jackson. >> Aye. Commissioner Hutcheson. >> Aye. Commissioner Timalty. Aye. Vice

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Mayor Williams. Aye. Mayor Capizzi. Nay. 4-1. 4-1. I just had to be the odd ball, you know. I know it didn't matter. Uh I like my daylight. All right,

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um Start the meetings at 10:00. Okay, we've got we've got item two. Adopt ordinance 1713 on second reading, an ordinance of the city of Cocoa Beach, Florida, adopting the latest version of the International Property Maintenance Code as amended herein, providing for

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the repeal of the prior inconsistent ordinances and resolutions, incorporation into the code, severability, and an effective date. Staff representative, Brian Palmer, deputy development services director, recommendation adopt on second reading. Move to approve J2 as read. Second.

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Motion and second, any public comment? Any commission comment? I want to make a general comment that um I like what the city staff has done here to uh when they do the background, that it kind of brings it out of the

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lease into real conversation people can talk about and understand. I appreciate that. Um it used to be well, section 4 subsection 5 paragraph 4 number 1 says blah blah blah blah blah

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whereas whereas whereas instead of hey, what we're doing here is conforming to state regulations and we're just conforming to that and using their statutes. Boom, done. Simple stuff. Good. Right. Right. All in favor. I It's roll call. Roll call. Oh, this is a roll

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call? Yes, it's a second reading. I'm sorry. This is the last roll call, I promise. >> Commissioner Jackson Aye. Vice Mayor Huffman Aye. Commissioner Tsmaltie >> Aye. Vice Mayor Williams Aye. Mayor Kizzi Aye. Thank you. All right.

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Let's see. All right, this one we K1 K1 Okay, this is a new business item 1. Cocoa Beach Senior Center formerly Freedom 77 Senior Center request for $30,000 in

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city funds to be budgeted in fiscal year 27 support of the part-time director salary. Uh representative Annetta Gross, Jenny Burris, Mike Nichols updated 4 13 26.

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Move to approve K1 as read. Second. Motion second. Any public comment on this? Oh, Janice Lee Lila >> Just just I didn't know that was your last name. Oh, okay. >> Okay, so Janice Scott, Cocoa Beach. I'm

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the chair of the Central Brevard Citizens Parks Committee. I don't know, it's a long title. But anyway, yesterday briefly we discussed where are the the senior centers and uh what they do in various parts of the county. We're come park.

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It's very popular one. It's uh 20 miles from here. Uh very active have all kinds of activities as opposed to Cocoa Beach has basically Um the other senior center is uh

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Woody Simpson in North Cocoa. There's one uh Martin Anderson in Rockledge. I really believe that for the comparison what the senior centers do, they provide lunch for seniors so on and so forth that you should use the money

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to um provide transportation for the seniors who really want to go somewhere where things happening thing canasta or scrabble or something. Um Years ago in the dark ages, there was a move to have both uh Cocoa Beach, Cape

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Canaveral and county find a central location. And that thing tanked really bad. It was really bad. The county was so fed up with the conversations that they um abandoned the idea. But maybe it's time for you all to pick up the torch

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and think about doing it again. After all, most of your citizens are up there over 60 retired people around here would like something else to do. And uh it's really too bad because in my opinion, I think we had big dance out there at the country club.

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Had uh tenor sing coming sing one evening. We had some really nice activities that people enjoyed going to. Maybe someone should get on the ball and do something more out there. Thank you. You said You supported this or you didn't support this. I do not support giving this money to

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the current situation. Thank you. >> Thank you. Manny, can you provide some security for her afterwards? Just I'm just Uh Lila Lila Lila, sorry. Good evening. My name is Lila Gilbert. I live in Cape Canaveral. I grew up in Cocoa Beach. And

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I have been a contract instructor at the C Center for 15 years. I teach exercise program of Zumba, which is a dance fitness class open to everyone of all ages. The oldest participant is 91. She started when she was 78.

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And the youngest was seven. She's now a sophomore at Cocoa Beach High School. Most of my participants are between 60 and 80 years old. In my program, the the participation rate has exceeded a little bit over 1,000 people a year. They all attend programs that are off

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the center as the center gives them something to be a part of. If they weren't for the center, most would be staying home, not getting exercise. Social connection is vital to keep the senior population healthy and engaging in life so they can maintain

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their independence. I teach two 1-hour classes a week. However, there are five other exercise formats offered at the center. So you just don't have to do Zumba. And there's also other things offered besides the exercise programs. People who attend my classes

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come not only from Cocoa Beach but from the surrounding cities of Cape Canaveral, Merritt Island, Satellite Beach. I have one steady client who comes whenever she's in town from California. I consider her one of my regulars. >> [clears throat]

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>> We have many visitors who participate when they come. Zumba is a worldwide program. You can go anywhere in the world take classes. They come when they're visiting families or even if they just have business here. The most memorable comment made to me about the center in my class was that if it weren't for the center, my mom would

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just be alone in her oceanfront condo sitting. The center has given her purpose, friendships and kept her active and engaging. She's the 91-year-old. She's still driving. She feels a part of the Cocoa Beach community and is not isolated

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just with the own own people in her condo. Many of the snowbird visitors are sad when they must return home as their communities don't have senior centers with programs like we have. I have participants who go home, join a Zumba class and see a familiar face that they

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met here in Cocoa Beach. That was quite interesting. It may be the Cocoa Beach Senior Center but it is actually the go-to resource center for seniors without pressure or sales. We'll help them resolve anything they've got going. All they have to do is ask and let us know that there's a problem. As an instructor and

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participant of activities offered by the center, I ask that you continue the funding support that has been provided in the past. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other public comment on this? Any commission comment?

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Um I Is this an an accurate activity list? Yes. I would comment that that looks rather robust. Um I'm not familiar with the activities but that's that's a decent scale. Uh in terms of the value and what you mentioned for folks to be active, for

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them to be engaged in community, um that you guys are probably well familiar I think most in Cocoa Beach are of the blue zone studies and what extends quality of life and meaningful life. Um community It's it's connections, friendships, um it's activity. It doesn't have to be high

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impact but ongoing regular activity. This to me is the kind of stuff we should be promoting. We should be endorsing for the quality of life of our residents. Only thing I don't see here that I I think would be really neat and it may already be included is just some of the research that's going in terms of

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the value of nutrition and what we can be learning about quality of life uh and extending through just nutrition might be a really neat element to add in. Uh so city uh manager uh when we not to rent out that that

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facility, how much is it per day? $600 for a half day, Andy? For the day. $600 for a day. $600 for a day. >> $600 for a day. So $10,000 a month. So it comes out to Am I doing this right? Uh 208 days a year approximately. Does that

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sound about right, Andy? Ish. So And then we So right now currently we give them basically an in-kind of $124,800 for to use the facilities. I would I probably cut that in half because half days. >> Okay, so half days. So let's just say

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>> generous, you know, just to I would say between 50,000 just to be safe for in-kind just to be sure. Do we do half days, Tsmaltie? We do not. Only do daily rentals. Okay. Right. All right. Yeah, he can't. Yeah.

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Right. Right. Um And um should there be uh special needs that for a day that normally be senior center, I think they'd have a little leeway there. Do they or do they not? Yes, they have been.

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And [clears throat] if it's being occupied well do in advance. They're pretty flexible with that. Right. So I mean it it's to your point, we're saying oh yeah, we're if they were renting it every day, it would cost that much. >> Yeah. But we're not losing revenue by the

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being there. We got to maintain it anyway, keep the mold out. Um Um I'm in support but I would advise for future commissioners that are maybe sitting up here, I asked for uh 5 to 10 years of their financials so

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I could just kind of see where they're at. I got a 1-year and it was very sparse in detail. Uh I I just I like to base decisions on

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um current and historical data. And it was pretty historical what I got. But I do support the senior center. >> [clears throat] >> I I just want to say I I fully support uh the senior center as far as um giving

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you everything you need to make what you what you do happen. Um, I think I think the role of government is to to provide something for the residents that they couldn't normally provide for themselves. So, for example, giving you a space like this or this large to to do

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your activities, I think absolutely 100% make sure we continue to do that. Uh, the the one thing I am concerned about is I don't really believe the role of government is to provide extra funds on top of that to people for for activities or whatever. So, I I have a a little bit of a hard time because

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um, when we when we look at, let's say, like Main Street or, um, oh, there's a What was the other one? The scene the Women's Club, uh, there's a lot of these a lot of people are going to be asking for money or do ask for money on top of

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what we we give in in kind. And like I said, I'm fully in support of in kind because I know that these are resources that you couldn't normally get outside uh, of what this provides. My my concern is we give money for

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beyond and where do we say where? So, I I have a little bit of a problem putting money out on top of it because giving you the the resources for free to do whatever you need to do. Uh, I know that you guys and I'm not saying I don't know I know it's not a

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lot, but I know that you charge for some of the services and stuff like that as well or some some, uh, um, I guess like memberships and stuff like that as well. So, I understand that you do get some money that way as well. But so, that's kind of where I'm at and if you guys want to help me

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uh, it come up and explain to me better why the the residents should fund it beyond the um, the basically allowing you to to use our our resources and your such your

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resources. Um, I I'd be all ears. I I really do want to understand the I guess the reason for the ask, I guess I should say. The reason for the what, sir? The of the extra funds on top of the in kind. So,

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like I said, it it comes out to at least 50,000 in in kind is what we give you to to be able to use the resources. And I'm all for that. I I love I love that we are able to provide with a space to use. It's air conditioned and and all that. But I'm I'm trying to to understand

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um, the monetary on top of it, how the the residents as a whole, uh, how to justify that we're going to pay for something beyond that cuz we have lots of other nonprofits, uh, that want money as well. So, and I'm when it comes to the other nonprofits, I'm all

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for giving them the in kind because I feel like we we owe it to the residents to let them use their facilities. But money beyond that, I'm having a hard time figuring out. Yes. Can I say something? >> Yes, please. Go ahead first and then I want to add on to that.

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Uh, Jenny Burris, I'm a, uh, fitness instructor, a volunteer fitness director at Senior Center. Hello. Uh, I'm also a member of the board. And actually, uh, that amount that we're

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requesting, if you look the, uh, fiscal year report that we gave you, monetary report, pays for a our part-time director who coordinates everything. Handles the memberships, handles the

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phone calls, signs people up, uh, gets us coordinated, does everything at the center so that we don't have to. Um, without that funding, we wouldn't have a director. It would be all of us just volunteering

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to help out and try to run things and I'm don't know how well that would work out. So, our opinion is we really need our part-time director. So, that's specifically what the money from the city goes to. Okay. Any other questions? Uh, is it a

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part-time director? Yes, it's part-time. >> making 60 grand? She No. >> 60 grand or 30 grand? >> No, well, it's under 30, actually. >> Okay. Part-time, it's, uh, her the set hours of the center are 9:00 to 2:00 Monday through Thursday. But of course,

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she's there before that, after that, other days works from home. Lots of times we have events on the a weekend or an evening. She does that, too. So, it's a salaried position, not really a set hours. Um, what was your other question? Now, we do

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charge for memberships, 25 bucks for a whole year. It's not per month, it's for a whole year. And then we also charge per class. Remember, uh, some classes are a dollar, three dollars, five dollars. If you're not a member, if you don't want to join cuz some people don't want to join, it's a

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little more than that. So, we do have some income which you can see on the finances that we gave you. But we certainly can't make enough to pay, uh, a salaried part-time director. That's what that money is for.

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Okay. Thank you. Roughly how many members are Cocoa Beach residents, ballpark? Cocoa Beach residents. We we have people from the whole area. How many are >> Cocoa Beach residents? And and for sure. Yes, that question

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because basically Cocoa Beach is funding Yes, sir. Well, I mean, I'm All right, so, I'm the budget all right, so. >> So, it's mostly Cocoa Beach people. Yes, and snowbirds. Uh, we have What's the latest update?

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Right. So, where I'm going with that >> That's ballpark, sir. Uh, thank you for that. Where I'm going with that is I have a similar thought to the mayor, um, but I think the difference on this one is it's disproportionately direct dollars investing in quality of life for our residents. So, I support it. Um, I know that probably shocked a

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lot of people as the budget hawk, but I understand your position of the in kind. I think we drew a a line in the sand with Main Street saying we wouldn't do the cash infusions, but to me, because this is disproportionately residents and it's investing in in their health, I support it. How's it different

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from Main Street? I It's disproportionately more residents and I think they don't have a business plan intended to operate on its own team. But Main Street is a an area of downtown Cocoa Beach with all the businesses of Cocoa Beach. I'm supporting that. Um,

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I I would have to I disagree that it's um, fewer there are a smaller percentage of Cocoa Beach residents. >> Regardless, I'm supporting this tonight. I will we'll talk Main Street later. Well, we should talk together because it's pretty much the same concept.

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>> Yeah. So, so, before you go crazy and get mad with me, I I'm going to support this this year for sure. >> What's that? Just remember, I'm a fitness instructor. >> [laughter] >> I'm not going to get definitely not going to get on your bad side.

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>> Kickboxing. >> All right. Yes. And a little taekwondo and all those other stuff. Okay. Um, I'm going to support it this year because that'd be just a slap in the face like out of all of a sudden you're just not going to fund. But what I do request for next year is as Commissioner Williams said,

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we need to see some financials, um, an MOU, just like Main Street is required. Uh, do you have insurance? Uh, what happens if if some one of your seniors falls? Yeah. Hopefully >> is that they're they going to sue the city? Yeah. Um, do we have that kind of

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stuff going on? Uh, the in kind we talked about. Um, but, um, I I definitely support this. Um, there's a there's a member of the, uh, audience out here public that I've spoke to many years ago about building

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your own facility. Um, and having that set up. Mr. Haynes uh, mentioned that and, you know, maybe at Fisher Park or something like that would be a great place to put a, uh, a facility that we could get funding

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from maybe the state or other groups, not necessarily the city, to, uh, to make that happen. Uh, but I do see the future of the Cocoa Beach Country Club not being a good fit for for the, uh, for the Senior Center.

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Just cuz it's it's growing and getting, um, a lot more active out there. And it'll just kind of push you out, but I think you need a uh, your own location for future. Not right now, but think about that going forward and

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>> place. It is and we got downstairs. I think you can use that. Uh, not near enough room for us, but For for some things. For some things that are. Uh, but um, I I just I mean, three, four, five years down the road having your own Senior Center.

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That'd be nice. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, you wanted to talk? Yeah, similar to to, uh, Commissioner Tumulty there, I would just request after speaking with the city attorney that we do put them on an agreement. They should be on some form of agreement similar to Main Street.

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So, I'm going to I'm going to also, like I said, um, you you know kind of my views, but I I absolutely would not, um, just all of a sudden pull the rug out from you, either. So, I I will also vote to support this this year as well. Um,

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but we do need to look, uh, at it and we need to be fair to all the people that do ask for funding from us. If, you know, if we're not going to give it to some, then we got to really I think we have to have a justification why some have it and some don't and we have to have a clear reason why. So,

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but I'm I'm with him as well. Uh, I'm absolutely going to fund it this year. Uh and I I see how it is how important it is to you guys and I and I don't want to just all of a sudden pull the rug out for you guys. So, um so I think you you're you're in the

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clear tonight. You're actually going to get your funding for next year. I have a question. Uh go ahead, ma'am. Okay, I'm a I'm on the list to speak. May I? Yes, absolutely. Another Gross. I'm on the Cocoa Beach Senior Center board. Our mission is The Cocoa Beach Senior

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Center is a 501c3 charitable organization serving the community since 1984. We provide wellness, social, recreational, and educational opportunities for seniors in Cocoa Beach

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and surrounding communities promoting active aging and community connections. Why was the name changed last year? It was confusing to imply that the location was at the Freedom 7 School. By changing the name to Cocoa Beach Senior

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Center, shows more of a relationship with the city. When COVID took control in March 2020, a lot of exercise activities closed and by October that year, I was an 84-year-old senior and realized I needed a new

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exercise program. So, I started attending the strength and balance class 2 months a week and have it as my priority on Tuesday and Thursday mornings. No one is made to feel uncomfortable inability. You do what your body allows.

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Probably you will improve. In the meantime, you're having a good time running into old friends and making some new friends. It is true we all need to work on strength, balance, coordination, flexibility, and being able to sit down

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and stand up. There are also other classes that might fit your interest in all the instructor's senior life. You don't have to be a member. Do you like discounts? For an optional $25 member fee a year, then you can pay a

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lower class fee. Yes, traditional gym with exercise equipment is good, but is it intimidating for seniors? If you haven't been a gym rat for years, then getting on a treadmill is too adventurous.

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A big goal of a senior is to avoid falling. Being mobile is necessary to give us independence and not be a burden to others. Come and give us a try and maybe gain a few healthy years. I'm looking forward to the big 90 in a

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few months and just happy that I can walk and talk at the same time. And I give a lot of credit to the strength and balance classes. What does the Cocoa Beach Senior Center do? It's a vital community asset that

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supports the health, independence, and well-being of older residents and helping to reduce isolation and loneliness are key needs. It is a cornerstone of a healthy, connected, and resilient community.

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Thank you. >> Thank you. Mike Nichols, Cocoa Beach resident my whole life. Um I'm a physical therapist and also sit on the board for Cocoa Beach Senior Center. I appreciate your support already. The may

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uh Mayor Capizzi, Commissioner Tumulty, and Commissioner Hutcherson. Um I just wanted to add a few things. You know, without the part-time um director, this whole thing would not be possible. I definitely she does a great

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job in commanding ship, if you will. Um and I've only been on the board for a few years, but as a physical therapist, I do know how important it is to have resources such as the Senior Center and various other for our seniors. Um I've spent the last 10 years

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primarily working in the geriatric population and I know how important it is when they leave a physical therapist, for instance, how important for it is to to keep moving. And I know you guys get that aspect of of this whole situation, but um I think

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that overall, you know, we're we're trying to grow the Senior Center into something that it could be bigger and um and outreach to more of our community members. Um and you know, maybe maybe we'll hopefully outgrow this space, but um

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I definitely think that, you know, your continued support is is just super important to keep this whole ship going and um you know, with all the programs that uh the director Nicole has put in place, um she's made partnerships with the the

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community paramedic outreach, which is has been great. She's they've they've come and done the CPR classes, safety classes, um and the annual uh senior resource fair, which we just finished up in February. It was the second one and this time it

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was much bigger. You know, you had all things all the way from people there with like the uh handyman. So, we had the handyman service there. We had a cook that travels to your house and just uh you know, get out there and talk to our seniors. And from what we could gain

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from the experience in the last 2 years, it was a phenomenal um experience for everybody involved. Um many seniors came in um that I talked to after the event and were just so thrilled to be able to experience um all those connections. Just uh and some of the people I talked

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to even have the cook come into their house, which I would love at my house as well. Not that my wife is uh a bad cook or anything, but and um the Show Me the Money fundraiser that we get very little with to kind of help with, you know, some of the some of

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the smaller cost. Um that's a fun event. I encourage anybody in here to come out and and join us. It's a fun little event. You can even if you're a winner of one of the games, you can make a few dollars, but um but overall, we just and I thank you for

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the three that have already showed their support. Um overall, this this ship would not continue to run without the director and uh I think you got to grasp that now that it's really paramount that we have a director and we'll be able to grow this thing, but we really just need to keep as if we were having to her salary,

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I mean, the expenses to the seniors throughout the community would be just unbearable. I mean, there I don't think that would be possible if we had to charge that kind of money. Um and so, I appreciate your time. We thank you for your support tonight and um

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look forward to Senior Center in the future. Thank you. >> Thank you. So, uh Yeah, Peter Well, as Peter comes up, I want to say and thank you all of you for coming out here and and speaking your mind and letting us know because, you know, honestly, if you guys didn't

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come, the funding might not have come tonight because we wouldn't have realized how passionate it was to you. So, it's it's good for us to see your support so that we can know, you know, how how important it is to you as well. Yeah, thank you. My name My name is Pete Cunningham.

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>> [clears throat] >> I'm uh I'm the president of the board of the Senior Center. Um I'm not going to go through the many years of hardship we had keeping this thing

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running, but there has been many years of hardship. I [clears throat] I did want to mention though that um I know for a fact cuz I've been the uh president for quite a few years that we've sent the

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city uh uh financial statements every year for at least 10 years. I don't know where they went, but we did send them and they were prepared by our CPA, local CPA, George

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Leonard. Uh and and that's another history, but I just had to get up and say thank you for the support that we've gotten from the city. Um Our membership was up to 300 um

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last year. Um Uh unfortunately, when the city hall was shut down and we had to close every once in a while and cancel our programs every once in a while, our

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membership dropped. But we're building them back up and we're going to be big again. And again, thank you. Thank you, Peter. Thanks, Peter. Thank you. All right, is that is that it for public comment? All right, and just so you know, too,

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like we have when we talk up here, this is the only time we get to talk about items. We don't get to talk behind the scenes. So, we really have to get everything that's out of our on our minds out in the in in the public so that they can hear what how we kind of

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feel about things. So, otherwise, we we would have no idea kind of what's in the back of our heads and and how we're we're kind of thinking about things. So, Yeah, so it's it's imperative that going forward, um to get the funding to carry on year

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after year that we have this MOU and financials. I haven't seen any financial I see these numbers. These numbers look pretty good. You got 4,763 participants. Um I don't know if those are annual memberships. If it is,

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25 * 4,700 is almost $100,000. That that same I'm just same person comes five times. Part of that 47,000. I don't know what that. How do you know? I think your point is point is we don't have those numbers and we can't see those numbers. Again, we're funding it

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this year. Those are the things you need to see. Like how many people are coming? How many different people? Is it the same 10 people that come every Tuesday? Um you know, a town for it. I I don't know. Um also there's an office behind the stage.

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That's your business office. Do you have internet, phones and all that? You pay for all those things, right? Okay. Again, I don't know because it's not there's no financial. The P&L. I got a one-page P&L but I assume all

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you guys got it. Yeah, they did. A one-page P&L isn't is Yeah. Okay. Again, we just need more info. We know how to do that as we've done that with other other groups as well. So, we get that information. Sure we carry on. It is it is awesome

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that we're taking care of our seniors because not just we're doing it for seniors but we're all going to be seniors at some point. Hopefully. And [snorts] All right. All right. Are you a senior? [laughter] You want us to vote still, right? I got you. Well, because I got some gray hair and I

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may be over 60. Yeah, I guess I see. All right. All right. Well, you can fantastic. You don't look 70. You don't look your age. Okay, I'm not going to say. I would like to just request one one more thing too as well. I thought Jeremy you actually brought up a a pretty good point. Um moving forward uh and it's

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just a it's not a requirement but um it is it possible for you to actually uh take a take a a survey or at least have have some kind of system where you know uh residents compared to non-residents. That would just be just be helpful to to

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understand. Like you know, are we supporting the rest of the community or is it just mostly residents? So. Agreed and and Tim to your point on Main Street, I support Main Street. I think to me it's a different because it's directly Cocoa Beach resident and it's health-related. So, that's why it's unilateral.

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But for me it's it's the transparency and I appreciate the city manager digging in. He brought this up cuz for years this has not been transparent on a lot of these things. So, uh he brought it up and say, "We're going to dig into this and see what's at." For me the it's less about the value that we're investing, it's more about the transparency. So. Corporate thinking in

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Yeah. Yeah. So. It's true. So. Now that we're bringing up residents versus non-residents, I think you guys heard earlier that if you're a member, they get a discounted rate on the on the classes and activities.

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So, somebody that comes in that's let's say they're not a resident of Cocoa Beach, they're from Cape Canaveral, Satellite Beach, whatever, they're they don't become a member, then they pay a higher fee. But what I don't want to do is try to delineate

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who are the actual Cocoa Beach residents, not by zip code but by city boundary and do like the golf course and charge people more if they don't live in the city and all that. I don't think that that needs to ever apply to the senior center.

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I think the more the merrier in participants unless you get to overcrowded situation, then maybe inside the uh inside the team, you guys could figure out how to handle that. So, like I said,

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I support it but I and for future commissions, I think we need more detailed financials for the future and more than just a one-year one-pager. Just just to make it fair to the rest of the uh people asking for for donation in kind. Uh

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So, um let's call it let's call it. Uh all in favor? I. Motion passes 5-0. All right. >> [applause] >> Uh page number three.

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Okay. Um New business item two two was pulled. So, item three is adopt ordinance 1714 on first reading, an ordinance of the city of Cocoa Beach, Florida amending section 4-43, special exceptions and

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section 4-46, amendments to the zoning map of article one, variance, waiver and special exception and article five, amendments of chapter four, land development procedures respectively of the code of ordinances providing for conflicts,

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codification, severability and an effective date. Staff representative David Dickey, development services director, recommendation adopt on first reading. Approved. K3 is read. Second. I got a motion and second. Any public comment?

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Marie. Thought I was going to call you right, Janice? Uh I saw my name first last night. >> [laughter] >> Marie Pearce, Angela Elaine. We reviewed the YouTube meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board earlier this month on April 6th and in that meeting

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staff introduced this ordinance 1714, which is tonight's new business item three. One part of that ordinance outlines new language, eight points in the land development code to strengthen and heighten the criteria used for special exceptions. In the presentation of this

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ordinance, we heard it will build a framework for the Board of Adjustment to be able to clearly define the criteria that applies to the application for a special exception. In that case, we strongly urge you to accept this ordinance 1714. Janice.

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Janice at Cocoa Beach. So, um honestly, I have not read through the whole um ordinance but you know, I really appreciate Mayor if when you have an ordinance and the staff's here, if they could get up here and give an

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>> him up after you. overview. What? I'll call him up after you. >> No, but yeah, I'd like him to come before so you all know what you're making a motion on and all that. That it's your meeting to direct as you choose but thank you for that. So, um as I said in two meetings ago, the Board

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of Adjustment's a disaster and when they considered a special exception, it was abominable. It was really terrible. First of all, in the at the comp plan, you cannot use a canal for a buffer between CN,

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commercial neighborhood and single-family residential. That was the law unless somebody's changed. Uh I thought they were really terrible. They did not take any uh the recommendations of the city staff to have one trip a day. Now they have

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three. And then they increased the number of people on that big pontoon boat to 48 or 50. I mean, it's really big and I think it's coming through the north canals, uh two or three canals we have there. There's one the other day it was obviously not observing the wake

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zone. I mean, the water was everywhere. And we have uh we and for Brevard County, we have the largest number of manatee deaths in the state. You've seen all the stats. We get a lot of bad press about that. But these particular canals and I'm sure

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the ones on the south side of the city as well have um a lot of old manatees, too. I mean, we have a lot of them. We have babies, we have juveniles and we see a lot of them that when they come back after the winter have really bad

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injuries on their backs where they lie on the surface of the water to sun to get them healed. And so, >> [snorts] >> uh years ago also in the comp plan, it's called the Banana River Preserve and we voted to make it part of the Merritt Island Wildlife Preserve so that there

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would be special things that would be coordinated about using this area. And I would like to see that um you know, uh just respected. And uh one other thing that last, the

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Board of Adjustment never addressed the issue of where this pontoon boat's going to be docked. There was a previous request to have a dock over on that side of the canal um and it was voted down. No, they were not going to allow anybody to do that. So, I don't

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know if this boat's overnighting there but anyway, I I would like to see um some improvements in the Board of Adjustment. Thank you. Thank you. Dave, would you mind just coming up and giving a brief summary so the rest of the people understand what's going on?

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Definitely. Yeah, good evening Mayor and members of the Commission and good evening public. Um generally, when the board the our boards are our citizen boards or our commissioners

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meet, they meet in generally one of two capacities and that's either legislative or administrative. And legislative is when the boards and the commission are creating new laws and policies.

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And the administrative side of the house is the quasi-judicial hearings. Administrative {slash} quasi-judicial or QJ hearings. And QJ hearings are generally when the board or a commission applies ordinances and policies, usually contained in

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zoning ordinances or comp plans, applies it to a specific piece of property. That's called a QJ hearing and the commission and the board sit in more of a judicial or in the capacity of a judge. And one of the important parts of a QJ

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hearing is decisions need to be made and based on competent substantial evidence. Incompetent in that those people who are speaking and putting information into the record need to know what they're talking about. They need to be subject

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matter experts per se. Um substantial and I have that this written down. The substantial part of it means that they must provide a reasonable factual basis for a decision. Decisions cannot be based on speculation,

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unsupported opinions or unsubstantiated conjecture. So the emotional part is more of an I don't want to call it emotional, but more opinion based is the administrative when we're making policy. The legislative side of it is um

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excuse me, the administrative side of it is when we have to really apply criteria. And those criteria, I think staff's looked at the code and our code, frankly, can um have use some additional criteria. There

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is criteria in the code now, but I think in this case more is better. And so I'm sure the commission's looked at the draft ordinance. There's eight or nine new proposed criteria for two of our QJ hearings and those are going to

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be special exceptions and zonings. And if you look at the proposed criteria, it's definitely factual based, non-opinion, non-emotional. It's cutting through all that. And so we're we're trying to create a

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framework for our boards and the commission to make decisions based on facts. And that'll be very important in case we ever get sued. We want these decisions to be fact based, not emotional based.

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Um and if you look at the criteria, the proposed criteria, they are generally going to be trying to quantify and deal with compatibility. How is the special exception or the rezoning, how is that going to deal and

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affect um the adjacent properties? And that's where the compatibility issue comes in. So I probably rambled on too long. The real quick >> it. Um before you go, real quick. Um and also you've actually um decided to to basically have some

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meetings with with them to educate them about the actual laws and stuff like that before the uh the meeting so that they so they can base it on facts rather than on emotions or stuff like that, right? >> Yeah, we're working with Bet- Becky's office. Um

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um one of the attorneys from her office has actually done a training with our um um planning and zoning board and now we're going to be doing with our board of adjustment. So that's that's important. Yes. I'll also say that Dave sent out very lengthy email to each board member

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saying that uh staff is open at their disposal as well if they have any questions. Uh to be thank you, that's that's all. Thank you. I mean, to be honest with you Oh, he wanted to Well, no, I just feel stay. I have a comment, but please continue. I I was going to say,

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you know, when we put people on on those boards or even on on this board, it's it's actually up to us to to we have no oversight. It's up to us to actually do our due diligence and to actually know the ordinances and know the codes and know everything before we come up here.

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If we didn't do that, which like I said, there's there's no oversight on on making sure that they did their homework on the on the stuff. So this is a way to to ensure that when we have these people that are going to be making decisions like this, especially quasi-judicial

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decisions, that they're actually educated on the law rather than coming in and asking about silly, you know, things that have absolutely no jurisdiction for them to even dictate. So it it's really important that they're educated on the actual law because,

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honestly, a lot of times human the human way is the path of least resistance and sometimes we just don't do our homework when we really should and this way he's making sure that they're doing their homework beforehand and it's going to create a lot less headaches for us in the future. Yeah, I

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just like to add one thing. Um I've been talking with Garrett from Becky's office. We're going to actually be reformatting our our board agendas. And these eight criteria that you see proposed on this ordinance, we're going to be actually

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naming we're going to be discussing each one of them in length. So the board there's going to be no guesswork. The board will know are are these criteria being addressed or not? So we're trying to take all the guesswork and emotions out of the process have it fact based.

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Thank you. Yeah, that was that was actually where I was going to go. As chairman of board of adjustments, I know it is it really is hard work. Um the quasi-judicial aspect means you've got to read, you got to understand, you've got to go to the charter land development code and really start bringing into context. So um what was

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incredibly valuable for me there was the the staff member who supported as well as the legal advice we got. Um and it Dave, I I think I'm hearing correctly and really this is where I was going to go. We are definitely going to do training specifically on these new uh

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elements for the board and then when we would have the staff recommendations or the staff insight, those were incredibly valuable as a as a board member to understand who was Christie Anderson for a while, we had Randy, um number of folks, but that insight on

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don't have to take the perspective of staff, but boy does it help. So yeah, I think the more explicit we can be incredibly valuable for our folks. Thank you. I I mean, I could say in the beginning uh I was I called Becky every single week uh asking her, you know, when I was

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learning the ropes, you know, what does this mean or is this legal or is this that? So uh and I meet with with Wes uh every single before every single meeting just to make sure that we're on the same page and I'm not misunderstanding what I'm reading. So the fact that our board members can now are going to be doing

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that, which is something that I was pushing for, it I think is is paramount. So. Okay. On section 4-46 amendments to the zoning map, I'm good with all that because it culminates in uh

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paragraph E, that says any proposed amendment shall be reviewed by the planning board, not just the board of adjustment, at one or more public notice public hearings and they make that recommendation to the

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city commission. And then any adoption of any of those amendments to the zoning map designation by the city commission shall be by ordinance. So we have to create a new ordinance to cover any

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uh amendment to the zoning map that go through the planning board and board of adjustment. So that puts it ball back in our court. Okay. But in 4.4-43, um special exceptions,

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and this is pertaining to the board of adjustment, and section D1, it says um whether the applicant has demonstrated a request including its proposed density,

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height, scale, and intensity, hours of operation, and so on. And they make that decision and it doesn't go back to the planning board and it doesn't go back to the commission.

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So therefore, I'd like to make an amendment that we strike six words and in that statement that says whether the applicant has demonstrated the request, uh delete including proposed density,

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height, scale, and intensity. Delete those six words, but leave in the hours of operation, building, lighting, design, setbacks, buffers, noise, refuse, odor, particulates, smoke, fumes, everything else. Cuz I don't think the board of

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adjustment should be making decisions for special exceptions that are outside the current limits for residential RM1, RM2, commercial,

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uh special districts that height, density, intensity limits are already in the books set. And if they want and what's happened in the past, if anybody wanted a change to the density, height, height or density, then it was by variance and

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they had to apply for a variance, not just go to one board uh and ask for a special exception. And those are controlled at the commission, right, for height and density? Let's hear from our attorney. The variance, yeah. Yes. And requires a 4-0 vote. Let's hear from Becky real quick. Okay.

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Um this and I understand where you're coming from on this, but this does not allow um any density, height, scale, or intensity, any increase over the base level that you have set. I mean, you've you've had

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the height You've you've You've Right. You have set the height. Because special exceptions um you might not want to allow a particular use, which is a special exception. It's not an allowed use. You

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might not want to allow that to even go up to Okay. the what if what is otherwise allowed for They wouldn't even need to come to get a special exception. They just filed for a building permit. No, no, no, no, no. You

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can't You can't a special exception for uses that are not allowed as a matter of course. So, you might You might have Let's just say um height. Um you might decide in in the area, it

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might be a maximum of 35 ft, but for the special exception, which is a different use, it's not an allowed use, it's You have to get a special exception for it. You might think that you really shouldn't go over 25 ft for that

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particular special exception. So, they can limit it. They could never go over the 35. You're absolutely correct without coming to y'all and jumping through all kinds of hoops. But

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I think we want to allow them to you know, consider I This would drive the this the applicant to expose this information for the board's consideration. >> And and they wouldn't be required to

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allow them to go to the maximum. Because >> makes sense. Because this particular use maybe it should be shorter. Maybe it should not be as dense. >> Okay. Dave Dave, do you want to say something? What I would like

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is within section 4.4-43 to put a paragraph in there that says what you know, thou shalt not Yeah, no, that's an excellent idea. city code >> Never never to exceed. >> Never never to exceed. So

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>> I That's an excellent idea. >> Okay. Can I make that amendment and get a second? >> Second that. Thank you. All right. Did you want to add on to that or no? I think I'm going to be quiet. Okay. >> [laughter] >> Seems to be going well. Come on up,

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Janice. Okay, so um in this ordinance, for example, that there's a you know, formula for building your dock. You have to have a setback and then the formula tells you how This This is really for you.

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>> [laughter] >> Um how far you have to set back from the neighbor's property. But the board of adjustment often says, "Oh, you're really good guys and Oh, does your neighbor object?" So, they let them build the cat Well, the catwalk's

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not usually an issue, but it's the dock. And these docks are getting bigger and bigger. Then they have a dock, then they add another thing out there, then they put the boat out. It's a third structure out. So, are those things in by ordinance or by

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>> We We have an ordinance a dock ordinance specifically now that that allows with your with the consent of your neighbor written consent of your neighbor that you can build to the property line on your dock, but you had to have written consent from your neighbor. Okay, but it doesn't take into account that once you

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have that dock and you put the boat, right? The boat can be >> that's considered a more structure, which is also part of the ordinance. It's >> Does this change? Well, I'm just saying that this has nothing to do with that. What What you're talking about, we've

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already have an ordinance that has to have written consent from from your neighbor to do that. >> they are not coming to board of adjustment special exception on that. No. Okay. And then there's no limit on the length of the boat they put on the dock. It can't pass It can't go past their their property line and it can't

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go more than 33 uh and 30% of the of the count. >> Okay, thank you. You think getting bigger boat? No, you just >> we need a bigger boat? Okay. >> Okay, so my amendment Becky's going to craft some words. We'll see it at the second reading, correct? >> Yes. All right. Okay. Okay.

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>> All right. We vote on the amendment so >> original motion. So, the amended motion is to add the the legal language that says you you got to stick to the height and density limits that are currently on the books. And the board of

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adjustment doesn't have the right to in propose a proposal for an increase to the density height scale or intensity. >> This cannot be a work around for what's on the books. >> Right. Yeah, got it. >> All right. >> That's already seconded. >> All in favor of the motion with the amendment.

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>> I. I. You do You vote on the amendment and then the main motion. Okay. All right. All in favor of the amendment. >> All in favor of the amendment. >> I. I. All in favor of the motion. I. I.

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Okay, motion passes 5-0. Move We're number five. That's the end of that. Then they're the authority to understand all this. Yeah. Is that it? We're number five. >> That's given up with Okay, this is This is um

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item four. Adopt ordinance 1715 on first reading, an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Cocoa Beach, Florida, amending the code of ordinances chapter 15 by adding a new section 15-39A entitled unauthorized commercial equipment providing for a legislative

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findings, providing definitions, providing for the impoundment of unauthorized commercial equipment used in connection with unlicensed commercial activities in the Ocean Beach Park providing for notice, administrative fees, and reclaim procedures, providing

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for joint and several responsibility of owners, operators, principals, employees, agents, and persons acting on behalf of an unlicensed beach business, providing for appeal, providing for codification, severability, conflicts, and an effective date. Staff representative

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David Dickey, development services director, recommendation adopt on first reading. Move to adopt. Second. Motion and second. I just want Any commission comment? All in favor. I. Motion passes 5-0.

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Number five. Okay, item five. Approve task order number eight from Kimley Horn in the amount of $64,055 to provide professional landscape architectural services, bidding assistance, and joint partnership agreement application preparation

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through FDOT for the beautification of eight existing landscape medians located along State Road 520 from Bicentennial Park to Ocean Beach Boulevard. This is a budgeted capital item. This was added 4/14/26.

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Staff representative Brad Calzo, water reclamation director, recommendation approve. Okay, five. Move to approve. >> Second. Motion and second. Uh I just want to say this is a is a long time coming for me. This is something that I ran on uh my first my first term.

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Uh so, it's nice to finally see this starting to come to fruition. If you don't know what what I'm talking about, it's the the 520 corridor. When we come into 520, those medians are in serious need of of revamping and and beautification. When we come into Cocoa Beach, a resort

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uh orientated residential community, uh I don't feel like that's what we see when we come in. So, this is taking that step. Unfortunately, uh we have to spend quite a bit of money just for the engineering of it, but it's a necessary evil and I'm and I'm excited

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to get this uh moving forward. So, thank you, city manager, for for getting this in motion. Yeah, so and and Brad, thanks for pulling the the thread on that quickly. So, if you go to the south, they're doing a great job all along A1A coming from Patrick by Nina. So, it's going to be good look coming into town,

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so kudos. In those bullet points, should they add freeze tolerant? >> [laughter] >> That's a good point. I'm actually I think I'll be on that board as well and I'm well aware of of what's uh Who is that board? I'd like to volunteer.

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We You don't need 70 80 100-ft palm trees to drop fronds on us. Yeah, now I get you. >> Self-cleaning. Yeah, I get you. So, uh yeah, the We'll We'll We'll take good care of it. And One quick one, the money investment,

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this is a necessary step to potentially qualify for for funds, right? So, it's not just we're designing it. This is the answer to your question. >> FDOT will give us no, you know, grant funding if we don't go through this step. All right. Janice, come on down.

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So, um You liked that I explained it first? Yeah, do what? >> You liked that I explained it first. >> that that you're going to nominate me to be on the board. Thank you. You know, how many boards can you be on? I'm not on any city board. >> Janice. Okay, so

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because I garden a lot and I didn't list anything in this last cold thing, I thought it would be important for you all to focus on that the landscape material be salt tolerant, heat drought tolerant, and cold tolerant. >> 100% agree. >> And not put any royal palms down the

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middle like Merritt Island. They're not native. Or buy $15,000 the hedy date palms from the desert. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any other public comment? All in favor. I. I.

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Um we are adjourned. Okay.