All right, let's call this meeting to order. >> Jeremy, would you mind doing the pledge for us? >> Sure. Would you please stand and face the flag? >> Test. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Pastor Keith Capey, Club Zion, please invocation. Let's pray. Father, we thank you and we bless you for the privilege
to come before you and seek your wisdom, your direction, and your spirit to lead this. Lord, I thank you for our commissioners, our city attorney, our city manager, and the clerk. Lord, they conduct themselves, Lord, in a way that's pleasing to you. Thank you that all things be done decently in order.
And we give you the glory and the honor and the outcome. And we ask this in Jesus name. Amen. >> Amen. >> Wow, look at all these people making me nervous. Um, city clerk, roll call. >> Commissioner Jackson, >> here. Commissioner Hutcherson
>> here. >> Commissioner Tamulti >> here. >> Vice Mayor Williams >> here. >> Mayor Capzy >> here. I get a motion for the agenda. >> Move to approve the agenda. >> Second. >> Got a motion and a second. All in favor? >> I.
>> Motion passes. 50. Um, we've got a special presentation, a recogn recognition of the city employees for assisting with a cardiac arrest with the positive outcome on May 15th. >> Yeah, May 15th, 2025, presented by Chief
uh Justin Grimes. >> Good evening, Commission. Um, so I'm going to do a two for one. So, we had two code saves in a a month. Um, so I I kind of put this presentation together because when something extraordinary, a group of people do something
extraordinary and it makes an impact on someone's lives, I think it's really important to recognize. Um, so I'm going to call up a couple people and kind of explain how things will go real quick. So, uh, James Schindler, our EMS chief, uh, Andy Cigar, our leisure services,
and Dr. Dudley, our medical director. And what we're going to do is I'm going to kind of go uh have James come up and go over the call and Dr. Dudley is going to kind of introduce kind of what the call is about and then he'll call up all the people that were involved on that
call including um people from the golf course as well as some uh bystanders and friends that were there that all participated in a good outcome. So I'd like to uh bring up James Schindler and Dr. Dudley. Good evening, Commissioner. I'm gonna
hand it off to Dr. Dudley. >> Good evening. I'm Dr. Dudley. Very nice to meet all of you and thank you very much for letting us speak tonight. Um, so again, I'm Dr. Dudley. I'm the medical director here for the Cocoa Beach uh, Fire Department and I've been here for about six months now. Very glad to be part of this exceptional group of
men and women, EMTs, and paramedics. And what the stories that they're going to go over tonight are going to illustrate is how when somebody calls 911, it's because it's a life ordeath situation where minutes count. The education, the training, the skills,
the continuing education, the ability to use medications and equipment and receive that ongoing training is really essential. And as these cases demonstrate tonight in what made these people not only survive a cardiac arrest when your heart stops, but to be able to
walk out of the hospital, continue to live a prosperous life, go back to work, back to their loved ones. So what you'll see tonight is that these are two examples here of cardiac arrest when the heart stops, right? And when the heart stops, there's nothing that you yourself then can do. we rely on and our whole
the whole foundation of emergency medicine in the US really relies on the 911 system and we really rely on the expertise and the professionalism of these men and women here in this department. What I hope to bring to the department here, as I've done to my other agencies, is continued training,
continued education, being upto-date on best practices, using the best most optimal medications appropriate for what science is demonstrating to be best, and bringing equipment on and the training that's needed to assure their competency in using it when these minutes matter most. You'll find examples like this
with cardiac arrest. You have minutes, minutes before there's no chance of survival. in traumatic injuries like car accidents or god forbid water safety accidents, drownings at the beach, we have minutes to take care of these patients. So, all of the work that this
group of men and women do really is just absolutely admirable and we should be nothing but thankful for their the risk that they put themselves every day and uh the support they have from their administration. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dr. Dudley. I will say she
gave us all the credit, but if it wasn't for her training and her expertise and what she allows us to do, because we everything we do is through her, um, we wouldn't be who we are. So, thank you. All right. So, what I'm going to do first is mention the first people that were involved in the incident. Um, and
then I'll just read off to you what happened. Uh, so the f the first I believe we have everyone lined up. It's Lieutenant Peter Marx, Lieutenant Tyler Barrett, Fire Medic Kyle Nichols, Fire EMT Patrick Dair, Fire EMT Nicholas
Lesh, Fire Medic Gabriella Sarco, District Chief Scott Post. Uh we also have um from uh city employees Ed Aldrich and Glenn Adams. And also we'd like to call out Mike Guy
and our survivor Richard Short. If all of you could come up and I'm going to read this off to you. What happened? All right. So, on May 18th, 2025, Cocoa Beach Fire Department personnel responded to a report of an unresponsive mail out on the greens of the golf
course. Upon arrival, city employees of the golf course assisted with getting the fire crews out onto the golf course, also recognizing that this emergency needed immediate assistance, providing handsonly CPR, as well as other bystander or the one uh friends that
were working or I'm sorry, playing uh golf that day. So, through in uh advanced life saving procedures under intense pressure, the crews coordinated their efforts. They all everyone that was involved had all their skilled
interventions. They all got together. It was a joint effort. They saved this gentleman's life. So, Mr. Short was really in the best circumstance at the right time because he had help. He had a retired firefighter. He had employees that had taken uh the hands-on CPR class
that we sorry that we provide at the fire department. uh we actually just had a CPR class where we provided CP training for almost threequarters of the all the city's uh employees. So it really was the best circumstances at the right time uh that they were all
together to uh intervene. Um is Andy nearby? >> Would you like to say a couple words about your your guys >> and then we're going to go ahead and give them uh our certificates. Good evening all. Um, I just want to
take a quick minute and thank Rick, Mike, Glenn, and Ed. What Glenn, Ed, and Mike did that day was truly inspirational. They went above and beyond their call of duty. I spoke with Glenn after the incident, and it was it
was a terrifying experience for all. Um, the courage and compassion that they showed without hesitation, they jumped into action to help be by Rick's side. I would like to thank them for being an inspiration as well as the Cocoa Beach Fire Department. Thank you guys for showing us what it means to take care of
each other as well as our community. You have made a great example and make Cocoa Beach very proud. Thank you all. >> We have some uh certificates we'd like to give out now to our guys that were involved. Steve, thank you.
[Music] Okay. Uh, Lieutenant Peter Marks, >> Lieutenant Tyler Barrett, Fire Medic Kyle Nichols, Fire M uh Patrick Dear, Fire M Nicholas Leash,
Fire Medic Gabriella Sarraco, District Chief Scott Post. We also have something for Yep. for Ed Aldrich. >> Glenn Adams, >> Mike Guy,
>> did Richard. That was it. Okay. All right. Very good. Um, and that concludes our first incident. So, thank you guys. >> Who's a survivor? >> Yeah, Richard.
Uh, Richard Short. >> Mr. Shore, would you like to say anything? >> Yeah, please. It it's really hard to say thank you for saving your life. I mean, it's it words just don't really
do it justice. I mean, these guys, I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for Mike and all these people. And I just can't thank them enough. And gratefully, I'm doing well. So, back on the golf course and hopefully no more
incidents like that again. Thank you. >> All right. So, >> question. >> Yes, sir. >> Were there any of our Chinese folks? >> Actually, there was. They uh showed up in the ambulance. They did take the
patient to the hospital. Uh, and that is um something we want to recognize is that BCFR had a had a role in this as well as the ER staff up at CCH, the physicians and nurses and everyone there as well as the rehab that he received
afterwards. Uh, it it's really it's a group effort from start to get him discharged and out the door. So, we thank all of them. All right. For our second, I'd like to call Lieutenant Thomas Ferraro, Lieutenant Rick Nulan,
Fire Medic Sam Lucas, Fire Empty Ben Rogers, fire MT John Graasso, Lieutenant Monnique Erizzeri, and our survival survivor Kevin Sigillo.
I don't think we have anybody here from ocean rescue, do we? >> Okay. All right. So, on June 23rd, 2025, Cocoa Beach Fire Department personnel responded to an unresponsive mail at the beach with
report of CPR in progress. Upon arrival, the crews found Bvard County Ocean Rescue lifeguards performing CPR. When personnel used their cardiac monitor, they found Mr. Sigello to be in a deadly heart rhythm. CPR continued and with advanced life support equipment and
medications, the crew was successful in restoring his heart to a normal rhythm. He was further stabilized and with the efforts of multiple departments, physicians, and other hospital personnel, he was able to make a full recovery. All right, so
we have everyone placed. Let's go ahead and give out some certificates. Lieutenant Ferraro, Lieutenant Nulan, Fire Medic Lucas, Firemt Rogers,
Firemt Greso, [Music] and Lieutenant Iser. Good job, guys. Come on up. Hi, I'm Kevin Sigler and I just wanted to thank um Koko Beach Fire Department
EMS for uh saving my life. Uh it's been a long road, but I'm thankful to be here and um I really appreciate everything. Thank you. Uh Kevin also works at the resort in Koko Beach and helps us quite a bit when
it comes to training uh gives us access and they run a great facility over there. Um but I just wanted to say thank you so much. Um it's it's again when something is exceptional um and there's a great outcome I think it's something we should really really uh acknowledge.
And you know, a lot of the people that do that, they don't look for this kind of acknowledgement, but I think it's it's part of my job to make sure that it does get acknowledged. So, thank you very much, guys. >> Yeah. Thank you. Come all up. >> Yeah.
You're good. >> I'm gonna go. >> All right, everybody. [Music] >> All right. [Music]
Yeah, let's go get that. All right. >> Thank you very much, guys. >> Any public comments about items that are not on the agenda? >> All right. Staff reports and announcements.
>> Want me to go ahead? >> Yes. Okay. Um, in the past couple of weeks, um, I had the opportunity to talk to the Kuanas Club and also did, uh, coffee with the city manager. >> Is your mic on? >> It is.
>> Is it? >> Mics aren't picking up right now. They need to be turned up, I think, on that. We shouldn't have to lean forward. >> Speaking of mics, is it on? >> Here you go. >> Got it.
um a talk with the uh Kuanas Club and coffee with the city manager. Uh the Cocoa Beach Police Department had coffee with a cop um and it was very well attended. It was at uh Juice and
Java. Uh the main street downtown business community also had a meeting with the Cocoa Beach Police Department. Uh much of the discussion involved open carry issues uh for the businesses.
Uh and yesterday the police union voted to accept the fiscal year 2026 wage package. Um we completed u acoustic improvements to the new community room. I don't know if
you had been down there when it first opened up, but it was like an echo chamber in there. And we put acoustic panels up, and it's a a much improved uh u uh amenity for the city.
Assistant city manager uh Mullins had a meeting with BCFR and the Bvard uh a Bvard commission member regarding opening discussions on the lifeguard contract for this upcoming beach season.
We had um an initial meeting with the port uh with Port Canaveral personnel regarding contract amendment for the sanitary sew sewer contract. Um, we expect to be seeing significant
cost recovery in the amended contract uh on the golf course. The golf course is working staff is working on uh a simplified greens fee structure and we'll probably have a resolution for you
at the next commission meeting. Uh they were also exploring some exciting revenue generating capital improvements for the golf course and they'll be bringing that forward um uh probably within the next month or two.
The land management sustainability committee um has been dormant for the past 18 months. Uh we reached out to the committee members regarding um interest in continuing and we only received two
responses and um uh our recommend recommendation is to incorporate the mission and responsibilities of the land management uh sustainability committee into the planning board itself.
uh the planning board um last month uh heard presentation on sustainability um and uh it was a really interesting discussion. And I think there's a lot of opportunity for the planning board to
get into issu issues involving uh flooding uh the things that are really plaguing the community right right now. And uh we think that the planning board has the capacity to to handle the additional um uh uh workload
that would come from sustainability and land management. So if the commission agrees with that, staff will bring the resolution forward at the upcoming meeting to merge uh the meetings together. >> I agree.
>> Upcoming events uh we have the art show coming up in a few weeks. Uh we've been working with um uh the uh board members of the art the art show and um I think we're going to have a really really top-notch art show this year. Uh, also
Movies in the Park will begin in December. Um, out on the green. Uh, it'll be um, uh, I think it's a cars cartoon, so mainly for the kids. Uh, and then finally, the projects that
are underway. Uh, we've broken ground on the ramp road park. Um and uh that's funded by an ARPA grant for $850,000. Bicsentennial Park is uh also underway
and target for completion for that is mid January. Uh the downtown garage elevator repairs are finally underway. I know some people will be happy with that. They shall be
re they shall remain unnamed. Um the holiday H holiday lane boat ramp repairs are underway and uh so is the tennis tennis court improvement project um by the USA.
That's it. >> Thank you. Um city manager, there was some concerns from some of the residents about having all three boat ramps um under construction at once, especially um during uh hunting season. Is there
any consideration for that or are we able to accommodate? >> Yeah, you know, we have um uh we have the the three boat ramps uh Bsentennial Park, Ramp Road and uh Holiday Lane. Uh
the Bsentennial Park project has been underway for quite a while. It's funded by grants and the grants have timelines to them. Same with the Ramp Road. uh Ramproad Park uh is a project again funded by grants and there are timelines
associated with that too. Um so that leaves uh the holiday lane ramp. Um uh our our inclination is to move forward as quickly as possible to to try
to get that done and not lose too much of the uh waterfoul hunting season. Uh but at at this point uh there's not a lot that we can do. >> Okay. Thank you. I just wanted to acknowledge that uh I I heard the
concerns and there was not much that we can do. >> Okay. >> Right across the river there's a regular boat ramp at marker 20 at marker 24. wouldn't necessarily have to go all the way to Kelly Park in order to drive your
boat back in here, >> right? And this is only for a couple months. >> So, >> yeah, >> it's it's a business. They may charge you a couple bucks, but at least you don't have to drive all the way, >> right? And if we chop
>> if we did these ramps at another time, it would be coming out of our pockets. So, the state's basically paying for all this. So, it's uh good deal all the way around for a short inconvenience of a couple months. >> Thank you. >> All right. Um,
city attorney. >> Um, nothing tonight. Thank you, >> city commission. >> Um, I have something to say about the the presentation. It was um it it's something we don't think about and I'm sure they they save a lot more lives than, you know, just two lives this
year. It's just it's an ongoing thing every day um with the fire department and the police. Um I know Rick personally. I play golf with him and it was uh you know a shock to hear that one of our guys in our group that we play
golf with you had a heart attack on the course but um the employees were there and the guys he was playing with um reacted right away and basically that's that was huge. in saving his life. Had
he been not been there and not had CPR um applied to him, he certainly wouldn't have uh wouldn't have been here tonight. So, um it was a group effort by by everyone and um very proud of that that here. So, um just want to add that.
[Music] >> Yep. Well, we don't have another meeting before Thanksgiving and I hope our show goes well and I ask I wish everybody a blessed Thanksgiving. [Music] All right.
Thank you everybody. I'm just thankful to be here and uh working with all you guys. So, thank you. >> That's my Thanksgiving thank you and and for the great staff. We've got such a great staff. We had a good um uh a uh
city employee breakfast this morning and it was it was pretty awesome. Uh I love that we can acknowledge and and uh you know bless them with with that. So thank you AJ for continuing that and uh the rest of the staff that made that happen.
All right. the uh city commission will temporarily recess and then we will convene with our CRA meeting. >> City attorney uh number one. >> Okay. Item one, approve downtown Cocoa Beach Community Redevelopment Agency
performance measures and standards 2025 annual report. Staff representative Devon Tally, deputy finance director, CRA. Recommendation approve. >> Move to approve H1 as read. >> Second. >> A motion. A second. Um, any public
comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes. 50 number two. >> Item two, approve the September 18th, 2025 special meeting minutes for the CRA staff representative city clerk. Recommendation approve.
>> To approve H2 is read. Second. >> Motion in a second. Any uh public comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes. 50. >> Uh number three. >> Item three. Approve a commercial visual improvement grant in the amount of
$4,000 for Ocean Wave Storage LLC located at 124 South Orlando Avenue, Cocoa Beach, Florida 32931. This is a budgeted item. Staff representative Devon Tally, Deputy Finance Director, CRA. Recommendation approved. >> Move to approve. Second
>> motion in a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion passes. 50. Number four. >> Item four. Approve a commercial visual improvement grant in the amount of $25,000 for Land and Sea Surf LLC DBA
Drift House located at 350 North Orlando Avenue, Cocoa Beach, Florida 32931. This is a budgeted item. Staff Representative Devin Thally, Deputy Finance Director, CRA. Recommendation approve. >> Approve. H4 is read. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any public comment?
Any commission comment? All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes. 50. >> All right. The regular commission meeting will now convene. Consent agenda. >> Okay, this is the consent agenda. Item
one, approve the October 16, 2025 city commission meeting minutes. Staff representative, city clerk department. Item two, approve downtown Cocoa Beach Community Redevelopment Agency performance measures and standards 2025 annual report that was previously approved during the CRA board meeting on
116, 2025. Staff Representative Devin Tally, deputy finance director, CRA recommendation approved. >> Move to approve consent agenda. Consent agenda is read. >> Motion a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? I
>> I >> I >> motion passes 50. Um unfinished business. >> Okay. This is item one. Adopt ordinance 1704 on second reading. An ordinance of the city of Koka Beach, Florida prohibiting the immobilization booting of vehicles
by the use of an empoundment device on private property within the city. Providing for findings, providing definitions, providing exceptions, providing for enforcement and penalties, providing for conflicts, severability, and an effective date. Staff representative David Dicki, development services director. Recommendation
approved. >> Move to approve as read. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? I. >> Roll call vote. >> Oh, roll call. Sorry. Uh, Commissioner Jackson, I. Commissioner Hutcherson.
>> Hi, >> Commissioner Tumulti. >> Hi, >> Vice Mayor Williams. >> Hi, >> Mayor Capesi. >> Hi. >> Okay. Item two, adopt ordinance 1705 on second reading. An ordinance of the city of Koka Beach, Florida, creating a new
article 3, street performance performers and buskers of chapter 8 amusements and entertainment of the code of ordinances of the city of Koka Beach. Regulating street performance performers within the city. Providing for findings and definitions, providing for prohibitions
and conditions of performance, providing for enforcement and penalties, providing for conflicts, codification, servability, and an effective date. Staff representative David Dicki, development services director. Recommendation approved. >> Move to approve K2 as read.
>> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? I'll just say real quick, um I would I was just concerned because I know that sometimes we see the kids and stuff out um playing their band on the
side. So, I just wanted to make sure that um we weren't going to, you know, keep kids from from doing certain things. And uh I was just told this is just in case it gets out of hand that so we can enforce something. So, uh I'm
okay with this. So, uh all in favor? >> Another roll call. Oh, sorry. Real quick, >> yeah. Yeah, I I I know that. >> Commissioner Jackson, >> hi. >> Commissioner Hutcherson, >> hi. >> Commissioner Tumulti. >> Hi. >> Vice Mayor Williams.
>> Hi, >> Mayor Capzy. >> I >> Okay. Item three, approve ordinance 1706 on second reading, an ordinance of the city of Koka Beach, Florida. Amendment Article 3, Civil Citations of Chapter 30, Code Enforcement, Special Magistrate, Code Enforcement Board,
Civil Citations of the Code of Ordinances, Providing for updates to civil citation provisions, making findings, providing for adoption of revisions by reference, providing for codification, conflict, severability, scriveners, errors, and an effective date. Staff representative David Dicki,
development services director. Recommendation approved. >> To approve K3 is read second. >> Motion in a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Jackson, >> I. >> Commissioner Hutcherson, >> I.
>> Commissioner Tamulti. >> Hi. >> Vice Mayor Williams. >> Hi. >> Mayor Capzy. >> Hi. Let's see. New business. >> Okay. New business. Item one, resolution 2025-32. Resolution of the city commission of the city of Koka Beach, Florida, adopting a
fine schedule applicable to violations of ordinance 1704 relating to the regulation of immobilization of vehicles by the use of an empoundment device, making findings, adopting a fine schedule for the unauthorized use of an immobilization
device, requiring posting of fine amounts on the city website, and implementation of new fines, and providing for an effective date. Recommendation approved. Staff Representative David Dicki, development services director. >> Oh yeah, sorry.
>> A motion to adopt resolution 2025-32 >> as read. Second. >> Motion in a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? >> I. >> Number two. >> Okay. Item two, resolution 2025-33,
a resolution of the city commission of the city of Koka Beach, Florida, adopting a fine schedule applicable to violations of ordinance 1705 relating to the regulation of street performance within the city. Making findings adopting a fine schedule for unauthorized street performances
requiring posting of fine amounts on the city website and implementation of new fines and providing an effective date. Recommendation approved. Staff Representative David Dicki, development services director. >> Approve L2 is read. >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Any public comment.
Any commission comment? All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes 50 number three. >> Okay. A item 3, resolution 2025-34, a resolution of the city commission of the city of Cocoa Beach, Florida, adopting a fine schedule applicable to violations of ordinance 1706 relating to
civil citations of chapter 30 30 C code enforcement special magistrate code enforcement board making findings adopting a fine schedule for violations of chapter 30 30 enforcement special magistrate code enforcement board requiring posting of fine amounts on the
city website in implementation of new fines and providing an effective date. Recommendation approved. Staff representative David Dicki, development services director. >> Move to approve L3 as read. >> Second. >> Motion and second. Any public comment?
Any commission comment? All in favor? I >> motion passes 50 number four. Item four, approve task order number three for Black & Beach Corporation in the amount of $192,968 for engineering and design services for
gravity sewer pipe replacement along Marian Lane and St. Lucy Lane. This is a budgeted capital expense. Recommendation approved. Staff representative Brazo, public works and water reclamation director. >> Move to approve as read. >> Second.
>> Motion in a second. Any public comment? Any commission comment? All in favor? I >> I >> motion passes 50. We are adjourned. >> Uh my name is Dalton Wells. Um I'm a
lifelong local. Um I use the boat ramps a lot. Um I know that we talked about the uh Holiday Lane. >> Yeah. >> Um when is the uh construction supposed to start on that?
>> It has started. >> I was there today and there wasn't. >> They they've gone they've gone so far as they can and they're waiting for high water to recede. Is there any way we can postpone that
until the 520 ramp is opened? >> The the the contractor um has already deployed uh and uh we just think it's unsafe to um to open the ramp up when it's in
the middle of construction. >> Can we not postpone construction until the completion of the 520 ramp? >> I don't think so. [Music] I mean, the city manager is the one that uh implements. Obviously, I represent
you guys. I I did um I I messaged uh multiple people throughout the thing. The problem was it was already set in motion by the time I was able to to uh email them. uh when when you have a
project going and there's um people working on it, they they set work aside for certain times and if and if we don't take advantage of this, it could put us back who knows how long until they're able to to pick this project back up.
the the price that we got for this project is is a very very good price and it could wind up costing three times more if we decide to delay it. So that was kind of the problem with us um
trying to delay it. I I I totally understand where you're coming from and I I tried to look at it from all aspects and I couldn't see with talking with the city manager uh a way for us to to not go through with it. Uh it's and I wish
that maybe there was more foresight in that, but the way >> all three ramps at the same time. Yeah, that's >> um >> a little unacceptable. But I think the way it happened I I wasn't I wasn't a part of how it happened. But I think it was a it was probably an oversight on
on the re like I'm thinking especially during hunting season. I think a lot of >> not even hunting season there's there's so many pleasure boers and the fishing industry charter captains that's their livelihood. >> The holiday ramp though should be a fairly quick fix from what I understand.
So, uh, I I do I do understand where you come from. Being a big boater myself, uh, uh, >> not everyone's fortunate to be on waterfront, have it on a >> lift on these ramps. >> I know. >> City manager, can we post like a rough timeline of when those three will be
available of those three? I know there's various >> one open just one >> byentennial should be uh done mid January. Um the the u uh holiday lane uh we think
it's like a six-w weekek project. >> Yeah. >> But it's contingent on the water, >> but right now we're being held up by the high water. >> But so for 6 weeks residents won't have any access to the water. >> I'm sorry to say that that that's true. you know, I mean, it's one of those
things where um there's short-term pain in order to get long-term gain uh at all of our ramps. Uh it um and the way it worked out with um getting the grant money uh when we get grant money from
agencies, it's tied to a timeline and we have to follow the timeline or we lose the so it uh it's regrettable that it worked out like that, but but that's unfortunately the way it is. Um they'll
they'll work hard to get done as quickly as possible. the contractors have the same interest. They want they want to get done quickly uh and and get paid. >> And um so the people that lobbyed for holiday lane
grant to be prepared lobbyed before I think a couple of these commissioners were even born. >> I mean it didn't I I think I heard it a decade ago. They really ramped up about 5 years ago >> and now they're finally getting what they asked for.
>> Oh, I know. I've been asking for this for quite some time, too, but not at the not at the expense of not having any access to the river. >> Well, there is access. There's other boat ramps in the county you can use. >> Well, I understand where you're coming from, but unfortunately, like
>> these next few weeks, we're we're going to be getting cold fronts. It's going to be blowing 25 miles an hour. You're not going to cross that river safely. But it's why people stay in a thousand islands. But all right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your time.
>> All right. We are journed. Thank you.