let's call Hold on Hold on Now you can call meeting order All right Order Vice pledge for us To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all By the invocation by Pastor Keith let's pray Father God we thank you and we bless you for the privilege the honor to gather together in front of you Lord
to seek your wisdom and your will for the city Thank you for this new city hall Pray that you keep us safe guarded Lord just that all that is done tonight be done decently in order for the to the betterment of our city Thank you for all those who serve here We ask this in
Jesus name Amen City roll call Commissioner Jackson here Commissioner Hutcherson here Commissioner Tamulti here Vice Mayor Williams here Mayor Capzy here
Mayor I'd like to pull G3 but move to approve the agenda with G3 poll Second got a motion in a second All in favor i passes Um any public comment items that are not on the agenda hold on Come on
Rick Name address 1800 Causeway Uh this is really exciting being in here So um next year this is something that's dear to me and I think to all Americans Sorry Next Oh
my goodness Whoa Um next year we're going to be celebrating 250 years of America But I just want to when was America really born and I just want to point out that April 18th 1775 250 years
ago tomorrow the there were British troops stationed in Boston and they began a march toward westward toward Conquered because of they had discovered a cache of weapons and it was the night of April
18th when Paul Rivere William Daw and Samuel Prescott took off on their ride across the countryside to warn the residents that that the British were coming The British continued westward and they got to Lexington Common and
they encountered the Minutemen and they there were several shots fired Four colonists died They stood aside and the British continued their march to conquer where the Collins took a stand
and the first shot of the American Revolution The shot heard around the world was fired on April 19th just after midnight just after midnight April 18th And that was the shot heard around the world Um the the colonists then in the
ensuing days forced the British troops back and they forced them into Boston which fun fact in 1775 the city of Boston was three square miles and they forced them back into Boston They besieged their own city so
that the British could not get out General George Washington was summoned to come up from Virginia He arrived somewhere around June on his way He stayed at the Wayside Inn in Sudbury the last night before he rode
into Boston And I just had lunch at the Wayside in in December when I was there That historic building still stands Um they continued the siege of Boston Um Fort in this in the meantime Fort
Ticonderoga in upstate New York was captured by a group from Vermont The artillery from Fort Ticonderoga was dragged through the snow across the rivers across the mountains was dragged to Boston Harbor and set up
on Boston Harbor And in March 1776 four four months before the Declaration of Independence the British evacuated Boston And that was the roots of the American Revolution they sailed south to Charleston Harbor where a similar tactic
was used and they were forbidden for from they were prevented from taking over Charleston Harbor And those early battles of the American Revolution were the birth of the country Yeah Thank you That's kind of impressive Any other um
any other public comments push your speaker I think Well good evening everybody This is really a treat for me to uh come here for the first time I didn't know where to park where to stand where to sit Um lots of room for everyone I
um am really wowed by how beautiful and bright everything is here I just uh hope that um you'll be able to see what's going on out there in case there was an emergency Like in the old city hall we could look out the side window and see what was going on on Minutemen when the
one of the ticky huts caught on fire The police chief and the fire chief were sitting in the back of the room and I watched them pick up their phones and then then I heard the siren of the fire truck come around and I'm like pointing The fire is like right right there right
across from city hall But anyway uh it's lovely and um I think everybody will enjoy it in the 50 years to come I wanted to uh address something about the budget I had heard that for example that
some items on the budget are um private or privy to certain people in the city hall And I would just like to know if I thought it was all a public record So if one has a question uh how do we address
that if we ask the attorney um submit a foyer something like that to get the information that's on a particular line item And last but not least um following Paul Rivere uh I noticed that the flag on State Road 520
at Bsentennial Park should be illuminated at night or lowered I'm a big flag wonk I you know it's just a beautiful flag and or not put it up at all Thank you I prefer it being lit All right Any other public
comments all right Staff reports address The address address Thank you If I may real quick uh Wayne what was the address on that property was it 3600 3570 3570 Okay
Commissioner Jackson that was the one you reached out I reached out for it six years ago No I I think it was like when I was on the commission we we were looking at it actually So yeah it could be That's It took him that long to deserve it Sure
All right Um city attorney any reports or announcements uh nothing today Thank you All right City Commission reports and announcements Yeah going back to the um property there
on Ocean Beach Boulevard You know ever since they tore that old radar station down I had my eye on that property And I understand due to my uh work for the government how the pecking order goes
for who could get it because if it's no longer any use to the to the air force then they offer it to any other armed services and then they offer it to any other department in the federal government and then it comes down to the
state the county and the city Seeing as how it was our property to begin with I thought it appropriate to ask for it I asked uh uh city management at the time to put together a u city management at this time to put
together a depiction of what we could do there And the uh what we presented and what Wayne presented was an ADA park where it would just have about six handicap parking spaces with uh handicap
bathrooms and basically just be a a walkway through there to the beach And uh I believe uh that we'll receive that property and uh in a future budget we'll put something together at how we can uh
improve the property Other than that glad to be here in the new city hall I think it came out great And uh welcome y'all to come back for the ribbon cutting on May 1st I think it is And uh get a chance to walk
through the whole building and see all the departments That's all I have Yeah Um to go on with uh what the city manager mentioned uh about the tennis courts Um this started a couple maybe three
months ago looking into potentially changing the contract I believe um someone on the leisure board may have spoken to each of the commissioners So you're you're aware of the the situation and it's um uh very positive for uh the city community and and uh everyone
involved So I'll bring those details an agenda item to the ne for the next meeting Thank you Yep Anything Josh thank you All right Uh I got a question actually and uh yeah it's on Uh Scott I don't
know if it's out of order but um do you have any updates on the the parking garage elevator uh yes actually we just received the quote back from Schindler Elevator for the rip and replace Okay So I'll get that proposal signed and sent back to
them and then we can get them moving on it And do you just for the residents because they've been asking do you know about a time frame of how long it might take or there's we just don't know at this time i don't I can get a time frame from um our rep with Schindler and then
let you guys let Wayne and Karen know and then I don't know we can put that out to the public or do it that way Thank you Just some concerns I've been hearing around town All right Con concludes the commission
reports Um consent agenda Okay this is the consent agenda Item one approve the 43 2025 commission meeting minutes Staff representative city work department Item two approval to award continuing
services contracts to the following firms in response to RFQB25-00003 continuing engineering and architectural services One Bentley Group Two ecology Three BEA Architects Four Peacock Architects Five WSB LLC Six
Innovation Design Consulting Seven Florida Technical Consultants 8 Quentica Nine Meld Studio Architecture 10 Construction Engineering Group 11 Dredging Marine Consultants 12 Plus LLC
13 SARKC Architecture 14 Architects Design Collaborative and 15 DIG Architects Staff representative Scott Maxim project manager Recommendation approved Item three adopt resolution number
Okay Um item four approve the purchase of a replacement pump for sewer lift station number one in the amount of $64,560 This is a budgeted capital item The purchase also includes a pump stand kit and 8 in x 12 in elbow fitting Staff
representative Brad Calo water wreck public works director Recommendation approved Item five enter into a memorandum of understanding between the city of Rock and the Sidoka Beach for the formation of a joint emergency response team This was added
41725 Staff representative Wes Mullins police chief Recommission approved Move to approve as read Second Motion a second All in favor i All opposed Motion passes 50 Items removed from the consent agenda
Okay This is um item three adopt resolution number 2025-06 to execute amendment number 01 to the current interlocal agreement between FDOT and the city of Koka Beach for construction operation and maintenance of bicesentennial park This
amendment provides specific provisions for construction of the improvements currently in progress and specifies the city's obligation to maintain operate any additional features constructed on the property Adoption of this resolution and execution of the amendment are
requirements of FDOT staff representative Scott Maxim project manager recommendation approved Move to approve as read Second Got a motion and second Any discussion yeah the the question I had is I didn't see the exhibit A so I understand that the agreement we are uh taking over the
funding but I didn't see what scope was in the exhibit A So I don't know Scott or first got that Um forgive me What was exhibit A i put the amendment and the um resolution attachment on there
I just don't remember which one was No what I'm saying is the agreement says we're going to execute uh you were getting approval to to take over the ownership or the the uh growth and inherit the cost but references exhibit A from the design plans I just didn't
know what that was No that's that's just when um DOT submitted the amendment exhibit A was the design That's that's all that was which you guys already approved when we approved the project moving forward It's
everything you guys have already seen Got it Thank you Scott Any other comments on that any public comment yeah Go ahead Janice Janice Scott Um I I wanted to know if
there I couldn't tell from the agenda item and it kept referring to the agency Cocoa Beach we'll do this and do that And um it didn't it wasn't explicit if there are any financial uh things that come with amendment one
Any increased financial obligations for this park i think it just said that we were going to maintain it I believe it said we were just going to maintain it Um that was the only financial obligation that I know of So this amendment has no additional funding
supposedly it's fully funded as far as I know I can ask Scott So just so just so the citizens are aware So all this amendment is saying DOT's concern is that we build a restroom building out there And they
just wanted to make sure that that was in the contract that if we're building a new structure out there that hasn't currently been out there that the city is going to take on that maintenance And so that that's all the amendment is doesn't change anything else about the contract No added costs or anything like
that And this was fully funded um grant funded this project Yeah Okay Any other public comment on this all right Comments closed Ready to vote yep All in favor i All opposed motion
passes 50 Um unfinished business Okay This is item one Adopt ordinance 1696 on second reading an ordinance of the city of Cocoa Beach Florida amending section
2-62 self- storage facility of article 7 conditional uses and standards for operations in all zoning districts of chapter 2 zoning districts of the land development code of the city of Cocoa Beach providing additional criteria for the approval of a special exception for
a self- storage facility and providing for conflicts codifications severability and an effective date staff representative I I assume it it doesn't say Corey Hall Okay And
um recommendation is to approve Thank you Move to approve as read Got a motion and a second Um just so everybody knows this is the uh the building just south of um the gas
station over here um part the old parts house The old parts house The guy owned it Um he's been having a hard time um getting tenants Uh we didn't have an allowance to do storage units there but I feel
like it's a it's a good thing to do for his business and for his area So um this all this is just for us to be able to um allow him to do that So any uh public comment on this all right Um comments closed Commission
ready to vote or comment roll call Okay Roll call please Commissioner Jackson hi Commissioner Hutcherson hi Commissioner Tamulti hi Vice Mayor Williams yes Mayor Capesi
yes Motion passes 5 All right Next Okay Um um item two adopt ordinance number 1697 on second reading ordinance number 1697 an ordinance of the city of Koka Beach
Florida amending chapter 26.5 vacation rentals of the code of ordinances of the city of Koka Beach providing for miscellaneous changes to findings of fact and definitions providing for updating grandfathering provisions providing for additional
and/or revised methods of enforcement ment registration and penalties for violations of vacation rental regulations Providing for violations of chapter providing for temporary suspension of certificate of registration providing for exemption of
pre for pre-existing rental agreements and providing for conflicts codification severability and effective date staff representative city commission recommendation adopt Move to adopt on second reading
Second Got a motion and a second Uh any comment by commission any comment public comment Lisa good evening My name is Lisa Bosch and um I am here as counsel and also um as a
property owner So I was practicing land use and environmental law with zoning law for about 34 years down in South Florida We own uh the building located at 141 California Avenue It is land use um redevelopment district and zoning
gateway So Transient Lodging is permitted It's a permitted use there We fought very hard about three or four years ago to get reszoned because downzone downzoning on our property occurred when my father owned it and we lost the ability to put units on
there This ordinance really does concern me Um there's no economic impact study at all as to the fees um as to the increased fees that are going to be charged and there's no there doesn't appear to be any exemption uh for the
CRA areas at all and at this point in time I don't see it as even legally supportable The idea of this regulation for vacation rentals started out with residential communities trying to protect from noise trying to protect
from traffic making sure there was adequate parking making sure that the units were not overcramed with people so as to bother the neighbors that were living there full-time My apartment building has been in the same place since the 1960s There's no noise there's no traffic problems and there's no
issues in the gateway And I think it's time that the city really look at how we want our gateway to to actually look because there's no I we have no idea and there's no stated purpose in the ordinance to understand why the right
why we're expanding that ordinance out of the residential areas that it was originally intended to protect What's going to happen to a small apartment building with 12 units with those fees is it's going to put us under and it's another small business that'll be lost And I think community
redevelopment areas are supposed to be something that attracts tourism and that that actually gives short-term rental place people places to stay And I'm I'm just I'm shocked that so many changes happened from the first reading to the
second reading which as your county as your city attorney will tell you there's only supposed to be changes for Scrier's error but yet we put an exemption in for an existing 50story building to be completely cut out of these regulations at all But then the rest of us who are
in the same areas by right with zoning that's by right appear to be regulated by this ordinance unless I'm reading it wrong and I just it it concerns me and um I'd ask you to vote no or at least
pull it and look at it more carefully Thank you Thank you Lisa uh do you care to comment on that uh city attorney Um the issue with regard to the districts that it would apply to was discussed by
all five of you and your determination was to include all the districts except for that one building which did many many many years ago um come forward and they were specifically permitted to essentially operate almost similar to a
hotel Um so that was accepted with regard to making changes um you know for second reading It is certainly can be much more than scrivener's errors that can be changed That's the reason there are two readings You get an opportunity to discuss what
is um you know on the table and you can make changes If there are massive changes then it's a good idea to start over But unless y'all want to talk again about you know the same discussion you
had last time about what districts you want to cover Um I think I think this embodies what you all had decided So it was my understanding that was anything that was currently zoned transit or was a transit building was was um was not
going to be uh included in this bill I didn't realize it was just a one It was just that one They that came forward in 2008 when we put out a blanket uh request to anybody
that's having condos that are operating as hotels to come forward and pass and ask for them to be reszoned to transient And that particular uh property came forward
and it was fully documented in a resolution from uh or from 2008 So nobody else came forward and asked for that So that's kind of how it went down Is there any other transit um
condos in Koka Beach not that I'm aware of that came forward back then Um I had asked um Karen to look and that's all that's all she came up with Yeah that's all I found If you wanted to eliminate
the it would be an easy change and I we would need to advertise it again and and start over essentially Um if you wanted to get rid of the ones in the gateway and uh you know basically the downtown
area last time we were just talking currently in transit Okay All right Any other public comment on this yes Mr J All right Janice Janice Scott Um okay So I went through the exercise with all the condominiums
on Ocean Beach Boulevard back in the day and um I don't know you haven't said which condo is exempt and all that I guess you don't want to enlighten the public as to which condominium is exempt from the regulations trans and it
declared itself transient However I had received many many complaints about certain condominiums back in 2000 operating Transient by the weekend And people who bought into those
condos unknowingly didn't realize that when they came home like they traveled on business or something they thought it's secure It's there that there's going to be children running up and down the hallways screaming doors slamming etc of and basically being operated as a
hotel There were maybe two realtors that they said "Oh they're the ones that sell the units in those buildings." And I probably could tell you the num where those buildings are not on Ocean Beach Boulevard However what they do in the
condos is operate transient under the documents of the condo docks So if the condo docks allow you to rent out by the day or by the weekend the city's not capturing that
And that has always been the big fight that the condos in a certain zoning they were violating the zoning by operating transient Now all these condos are not in transient zoning Um and so if people
buy in and that the uh condo management says "Oh it's a great deal You can rent by the weekend You can make a lot of money to keep this place put your kids through college." Um the city's not finding that And they are truly
transient like a hotel And I don't know at what point the city attorney would opine the difference between what the condo docs say and what the city ordinances and codes say Thank you Thank
you Janice Sir Yes Uh state your name and address Oh you want to say something Becky no I I I could address that very quickly Um nothing in our ordinance changes condo documents It does not allow vacation rentals in a place that
otherwise would prohibit them Okay And and also just for the record on page three of this uh ordinance it does state the exception for the condominium units in the Cocoa Beach Towers condominium at
220 Young Avenue which obtained a transient lodging special exception through a resolution in 2008-8 Thank you Skip Uh name name address in three minutes sir Leonard Beckett I'm at
1503 Minute Man Causeway Um I am not a legal person on this matter but I do live with the individual that fought the battle along with the attorneys in
Miami Dade and wrote the ordinances now in place in Miami Dade with regards to transient rentals And we have been watching you all discuss this over the last few meetings
online and he has strong reservations about what you're doing being legal He went through this fight and it was not a cheap fight
They had both BRBO and Airbnb attorneys fighting the county who has I don't know 60 or 70 attorneys Their attorneys would not allow the types of
fees that you all are wanting to impose on the short-term rentals So again I'm not the professional but I can tell you that the professional has reservations about the approach that you're taking and that's
all I've got to say So I would urge caution Thank you sir One more comment Okay Lisa Nope not for some reason It's Jim's coming up with Lisa Oh do I have to give my address again just name and address Yeah Jim Vadic 110 Melbourne Avenue Indie Land Um
is this the one that's talking about the the bud all the budget stuff but with for the cost of this is not the No this is and then is this the one about the what's the pre page I printed up so the the costs is that this one that's the next item on the agenda So I'm at the
wrong spot Yeah you Sorry dudes That's fine Thank you Next one Okay All right Roll call Roll call please Commissioner Jackson hi Commissioner Hutcherson hi Commissioner Tamulti hi Vice Mayor
Williams I Mayor Capzy I Motion passes 50 Number three Okay This is item three Adopt resolution number 2025-07 a resolution of the city commission of the city of Cocoa Beach Florida providing legislative findings
amending resolution number 2025-01 by changing vacation rental fees and fines from those set forth in that resolution Setting forth estimated costs to regulate vacation rentals and a formula to use to determine the registration fee for vacation rentals
based on maximum allowed occupancy in computation based on maximum number of guests allowed in the vacation rental and providing for severability and an effective date Staff representative city commission recommendation adopt move to
adopt resolution 2025-07 All right we got a motion Second Got a motion a second Uh city clerk are you able to put the fees up so everybody can see them um give me a second Okay before we get
to that can I ask um Becky a question when we're talking occupancy I got some emails about you know people that said "Okay I'm going to have I'm rated for four people So I picked I did
four people but I don't count uh adolescence children babies any of that So does this need any kind of definition as to what's considered an occupant by age or is it just a human being
it is what we allow which was in the document that we just adopted is um two persons per bedroom plus two persons assuming that the um living room might
have a fold out sofa or something right understood And and it does not I mean a two-year-old is a person It it doesn't count dogs or anything but it does count people If you have four people on your boat it's it doesn't matter Four souls
on board Yeah So okay I just wondered if we needed to clarify that because there'll be people people who say "Well it's an infant It's always with his mom you know Put on a read." Yeah I If we don't even mess with it then we don't
mess with it I I don't think so And the way we're going to you know the the way the fees are done now it's based on the number of occupants which you are registered for And for instance if you've got a two-bedroom unit and you
don't want somebody sleeping in the living room you could register it for four units or four four guests But when you advertise if if we see that you're advertising for six then you will get
pretty hefty fines with regard to that So I would recommend that that no one come in and try to save a little money by registering for a lower number than you're allowed to have or at least certainly not a lower number than you're
actually going to be advertising for Thank you I've got a question Um is something that I think happened over the this past week If we've got a a short-term rental they have eight people
They allow eight people Um they have it explicitly written on their on their listing Um but the people renting brought 13 people Would the who who's how does that work would
would the renters be fined or would the would the person with the rental be fined they would actually both be fined even if the renter explicitly put absolutely no people past eight Um they they have a duty to
manage their vacation rental So they they shouldn't um rent it out to people that are they they wouldn't trust you know and a lot of vacation rentals have restrictions on
ages They don't rent it out to just a bunch of college students or fraternities or whatever because that's the sort of thing that happens um in those circumstances So both So both the renter and the people renting will be
fined Yes And um when we're talking about nuisance properties and stuff like that um if someone gets a a bad batch have we have we gotten deep into how we would consider something a nuisance property
or anything like that yet um there are guidelines in here if if they are advertising for more which happens all the time if they're authorized to have eight people and they're advertising for
12 Um or if they are doing you know other things which are blatant violations if they are letting their um uh renters park all over their front yard that sort of thing Um these are all
dealt with in the ordinance that we just adopted Okay And and I will tell you that with regard to um if they're only advertising for eight and there are 13 who show up um
and the only way we're going to know that is if a neighbor turns them in right and then what we would do in those instances there would be a warning Um and the warning would go out and the
owner of the property would need to get those people out of there or at least the five that are there extra Um and so there wouldn't be a penalty involved in that but they're you know they would have to get them out If they
don't get them out right away yes there would be penalties Okay Thank you So just so you guys see um these the fees have dropped uh drastically for this proposal um nearly 25 30%
uh which at the at the very max and then we've also dropped it down for the amount of people So if you it's only 219 per person for the initial and 146 um for uh renewals per person No excuse
me No that's that is um for the multifamily The multifamily is going to cost less right um rather than the single family So that's what they are And the registration and the renewal are going to cost are going to cost the same
So I'm confused Okay um you come in and you register it for the first time We maybe eat a little costs but um the cost when you initially register for it and when you are um renewing it those are
going to be the same costs And by the way something that you directed us to do was to build in the inspections which makes a huge difference in the costs Um these fees include both fire and
building inspections So the initial is still the 2500 for the initial No the initial is um $219 for a single family residential It's $21,945 per guest right okay for the
initial and $21945 for each of the um renewals Um it per guest and it's going to cost less and that does include it's inclusive of fire and building
inspections Um and the for multifamily buildings it's $146.30 30 cents for each um each guest both again the you know your initial registration and your um
renewals So it's no longer delineated between initial registration and renewal It's by occupancy and multif family or single family Yes So renewal is the same every year Renewal is the same every year Yeah Your your single family has the 1.5
question may and and the uh the fees we had before where it was 2500 did not include the fire and building inspection Correct Correct Which actually would have been closer to $3,000 Correct So it's dramatic reduction So um a couple comments on the finance
So it looks like about half of this is re half of the 800k we'll just say is the total program cost It looks like it's reallocated from general fund Is that an issue it seems like we should just be tied off to the user fees
So there's some direct costs It's basically 49% of that total Is that a legal issue if we're reallocating budget from it's it's not um you can allocate for just for example my time because I
am spending a lot of time on this and I anticipate going forward spending a lot of time in the code enforcement hearings working with staff um getting the citations correct just you know working as a part of their team So I as you know
I get um paid on a flat fee So a certain percentage of my flat fee should be allocated to that And similar for other um general fund items
Okay Um any other commission comment say I think want to say I really appreciate Dave and the staff working on this I think the graded approach is far more evenanded and I appreciate the the
way that they've done a very thoughtful job of this So just Dave and your team for taking really Okay And I and I will want to say that uh Cindy Deina was very very involved in this too Thank you Yeah to the staff um
working hard I know you guys you listen to us and you know that you know we really wanted to be fair to the residents um on this and and the people that are running their Airbnbs properly So I appreciate that Um any public
comment on this yep Lisa Is it Lisa or Lisa okay Sorry Lisa Better start her time over I'm sorry I'm I got it I got her Again Bosch um on behalf of the Suburban
Apartments the fees I don't I still don't see any kind of financial impact study or anything as to what this is going to do to the gateway areas The gateway areas are
allowed to have transient by right by permitted right And if every time an apartment a small apartment building like mine wants to put in a guest for less than 30
days each person that stays there has we have to pay that These businesses these small little rentals we're not they're not making it I don't I don't know how to get you guys to just understand this without getting into a legal
battle A one-bedroom apartment if it's rented can only be rented to two people And that's a lot for a for a larger one-bedroom apartment as ours are full-time $1,500 a month Maybe we can
get $1,500 a month when we rent them And I'm saying these things now because it it goes to the fees By the time you do the the water and you do electric and you do internet and you do trash and you if you have a mortgage pay
that mortgage there's very little income left and there's no income left for renovations And I know this because my father built that building and we've been running it for since the 60s The state is already regulating this area The local government should step in
to protect residential areas like you've set out before that you want to do But the gateway should live simultaneously with how you want your tourism to look So is every one of those new buildings those new con the new not
condos but the new whatever they're going to be resorts they're going to be subject to this fee right every one of those units and our apartment buildings subject to this fee Thank you Miss Fes I want to hear this Um there would be a one-time charge for
each vacation rental of $292.60 That's one once a year And that includes your inspections And it's and it's only $292.60 60 cents
for the entire year It's not per per guest Um each time a guest goes there and then the guests are then we then bring the guests in as being responsible for things because the guests are responsible for the rest of
the ordinance The fees are one thing but the ordinance brings those guests responsible Their behavior becomes they're responsible and the owners are responsible That's that's a lot That's way beyond what the exemption that the
state allows local governments to do That's way beyond what we started with which was a public health safety and welfare issue of traffic and noise and I don't want all these people in my backyard and I don't want these people to have children in
the elevators if I'm in a condo Condos can regulate themselves but I have a small apartment building and I have transient zoning by right and that's concerns with this goes way beyond what I think you guys
intended I hope you'll reconsider Thank you Lisa Um also if you if you're concerned about the regulations on this or the or the the fines or the
uh if you're not getting called on currently for stuff it's really doesn't apply to you If you if you're not if you're acting if you're if you're a good actor and you're not having people you know constantly report you the only thing that you're going to
see different is this registration fee which we we had dropped down So it's it's not going to change the way you run your your Airbnb if you're doing it properly and you're not having complaints So um any other public comment
yes Katherine Thunderberg Swingle Cocoa Beach resident Um thank you again for the opportunity to speak on this Um I did want to um comment on a couple comments on the Airbnb policies Um just so you know for your awareness if you
want us to be able to regulate who can stay in our place based on age you can write it into the ordinance and I can use that If you don't put it in the ordinance I cannot regulate it below the age of 18 or above Yeah below the age of 18 So I cannot put anything in there that restricts age unless it's legally
required of me Okay I would actually appreciate that because I had to remove it recently and I had an minimum age of 25 Um the other thing Airbnb does not count infants So if I advertise for six which would be my max occupancy and somebody brings an infant they don't
count that So I actually can I advertise as four I can legally take six but I just do that because of the size of my place So there are people that might be caught in that So just as far as understanding the policies that Airbnb has out there Um I obviously do uh you know support the exemption of town
center and and gateway from the ordinance and I've spoken on that a couple times in the past I do appreciate the discussion that you had last time after I brought that up and um I do appreciate the changes and the work that's been h this done since that that last meeting Um again I appreciate the
thoroughess that uh of the basis estimate that you used Um and I appreciate the fact that there's some some numbers behind it now that help to substantiate it Um as both Cocoa Beach residents and owners of vacation rentals
we do want this program to work So I ask a couple things Um I want to encourage you to um hire the people that are going to be funded by this as soon as possible Um so I know that there that's not on the agenda yet but I'd like to see it on the agenda as soon as possible Um I
would also like to request that the city um take a re a look at this in about a year to say how effective it has it been right um how many registrations have we managed to get and um what are the actual costs of operating the program so
that we can take another assessment and say does it make sense the way we've implemented it Thank you That's it Thank you Thank you K I 100 100% agree Um this is something that we're going to have to you know look at and make sure that our costs are are fair and and working for
what we're charging If obviously if we're charging too much we'll have to bring the cost back down Uh any other public comment jim Yes Jim Vadic 110 Melbourne Avenue in the Atlantic Florida Um so I didn't
understand earlier but you said the fee now for eight is 175560 That includes the fire and the inspections You're okay So that's actually probably a little cheaper than the 1500 Um how did you guys come up
with the 1.5 times it cost 1.5 times more for a single family versus the uh multif family that was a determination that was made by Brian who has Is Brian here yes Okay
um who was the code enforcement person in um Cape Canaveral doing the vacation rentals which has both the single family and the multifamily and I think I could probably
I think it's more than probably I think I could um qualify him as an expert in court if I needed to He said if it took one and a half times the effort one and a half times the the time to handle the
um the single family rather than the vacation rental or the um condos Yeah I did not know that figure but I sought out someone who did know It it just seems like it's not not
accurate It just seems like if you're doing a whole building versus a single building that whole building going room to room to room for checking for the fire you know but everybody registers at a different time If if we could do that be great but everybody does register at different times I thought registration
is all due in September No I think we decide to stagger Yeah it's it's staggered because we don't have enough inspectors to just do it all at once So so certain certain ones are in
September like mine and then other ones are a different Yes It's all based on whenever you register Oh no We just had to keep going in September because Well then it's September That's what I You're September but somebody else that No we didn't register in September We registered in
like December or something but our renewal was September and it's always been September since then Yeah that's the that's the BTR which is a different issue And then the parking you guys changed that one got changed a couple different times but at at one
time it was whatever cars could fit in the driveway And I think you have it down to four cars now Um before it was no one in the grass no one in the street whatever fits in the driveway I could fit six in my driveway Now I'm down to four But I can park in the street I would rather put six in my driveway than
have people park in the street That's personally That would be a different ordinance and a different that was part of something that just got changed No these are these are the um the fines for you have a parking plan when you
register Um you have a parking plan the before it was covered under what you guys did for offshore terminal rentals in the residential area It was no one in the street no one in the grass everything in the driveway and They make
it determinations as to the allowed parking plan and you just have to comply with your parking plan Yeah I'll take and I'm not the one that does that Yeah So um that was the three minutes but the it's the parking plan is not changed and if you can fit a couple in your in your
garage they don't count So you know it's it's the four that you can see out outside So okay Thank you sir Any other public comment okay
excuse my voice tonight It's a little weak but um Barbara Mills and we own 3180 North Atlantic Avenue in Windrush I'm looking at your fee schedule Am I reading it correctly that
renewals we've been here a couple years We've rented off and on to people It's not hugely rented but you're it's like if we round up if I'm reading it would for renewal it'll beund about $150 per
guest because we can have up to four people We've never had that many with but because I'm have four beds available that's going to be $600 a year Am I reading that right
that's a lot And this is new It includes your inspections as well Pardon me It includes your inspections as well Well we've already had that but um it's over here So these are new fees and the
purpose of the fees are what are you currently registered yes Okay that you wouldn't have to repay the original It's just a renewal fee The same of $150 roughly per You current You
currently pay 300 and something a year I don't know what it is It's like $360 a year So you're going up another $50 or something but you're not paying for your inspection so it's actually cheaper for you Yep You're actually paying less now
Thank you You're welcome Okay Any other public comment all right That No you already had yours I'm sorry That includes concludes public comment Um excuse the roll call Or no it's vote
Oh all in favor i I All opposing Motion passes 5 All right Uh new business Okay Um item one requesting the commission to provide a path forward for staff regarding
regarding hiring for the city manager position Potential costs incurred for filling this position is unbudgeted for fiscal year 2025 Effective August 31 2025 city manager Wayne Kerino will be
retiring from the city of Cocoa Beach after 17 years of service Staff Representative Cindy Deina human resources director Karen Groom city clerk assistant city manager Recommendation provide direction to move forward
Um just a question I see now we have a um recruitment services task order dated yesterday from Capital Strategic Solutions Was that posted on the agenda because I didn't This isn't first I've
seen it No that's just a sample Um today I put a small packet there for each of you and it in the front of it is a list of options whether we do a nationwide search through a RFP um a search using the vendor that we
have with capital strategic solutions and um a nationwide search through the human resources department and then any internal candidates that you may consider What I've attached is uh don't be alarmed by the scope and the
size It is a sample if you were to you know buy the biggest package that they offered and it lists all the different things that they do You can go through that pick and choose if you want more if you want less if you don't want to use
them at all It was just a sample to give you a an idea of what one of these agencies would do And I asked them to include everything as a sample So you can cut back that scope You can add things change things One of the things
that I did pull out was a um a marketing pamphlet that we used previously because it was very dated and I just I I felt it better that we that you engage let me know the direction you want and then I can build something around that So that
this actually has a pricing um only be build for actual hours work services provider not to exceed $38,950 Right and again this is if you look through the um pages it it is it doesn't
it doesn't break it down to alle cart anywhere It just says it won't exceed that So if you wanted everything it wouldn't exceed that Correct And if you wanted to start scaling it back I could you you direct me if you wanted to quote It doesn't mean you have to use them either If you want a quote direct me
what are the things in here that you want to remove and what are the things you want to keep And then I can go back and ask them to give me a quote based upon the direction And and I understand that pricing does not include advertising costs which would be paid
separately by the town but it doesn't say anything about is any travel costs for them Is that over and above this $38,000 yes It doesn't it doesn't say that I
believe it does Um I know on towards the back I mean we're going to put them up in hotels We're going to feed them It does not include advertising cost And yes it we
would we would incur costs for um travel and things of that nature if they're from out of town out of state things like that I guess when I see not to exceed pricing and one exclusion for
advertising costs then that doesn't uh it seems like that travel and that would be included in the 38,000 right normally it is spelled out so I'm going to go through it again and then make sure and again it was just a sample
to give you an idea of um what our well that I'm just saying those travel costs could add up quite a bit I've gone through this right i've gone through this at least three times right and if they come they talk to us they go away they're here for a couple days they talk
to staff they go away they come back during for the interviews they come back three or four five times Everybody wants to come to Cocoa Beach I hope so Okay And um have you
uh you know one of the questions is always asked is is there anybody that we feel and you feel as a as a personnel director that's up to the task that's already employed by the city I think that if you are interested in internal
candidates you probably have a couple of people that would be interested in applying Do you think we should just have them well I guess it would be up to the rest of the commission It would be Yes would would they would have the opportunity to apply just like any other candidate yes
And if if you're interested in offering it as an opportunity to interview for internal candidates you can we can post it internally That's of no cost to um no additional cost and have applicants forwarded on before you go outside You
can see if any of the internal applicants would be acceptable or fit the criteria you're looking for Okay Thank you All right I have a question Um so basically uh from from bottom to top internal
candidate if we if we decide to go that way it costs nothing $2,000 for a nationwide search Just throwing it out there 39 plus um for the continuing services Um but that's not just anyone
that applies There's there are interviews phone interviews right uh they got they've got to give us a you know some of them are 20 page 30 pages of documentation that we'll we'll go through to break it down to typically
maybe three or so Yeah Um that we'll talk to and and interview on the phone before we bring them here to do an in-person interview Right So it's not like we're just bringing No absolutely not a beach The their activities they list what they would do And again as
much or as little as you want They can do outreach to the community They can do online surveys They talk about u stakeholder interviews commission department heads things like that So the agency themselves would spend time in the city before they even recruited And
how much is um the nation or the uh yeah the nationwide search through a vendor um I would have to put out an RFP but typically uh a head hunter for lack of a better term an executive search for firm charges anywhere from
25% of the base salary or up And sometimes they'll charge 25% they'll include other amounts um like benefits that come along with with um the position So they'll add all that in and then it's 25% sometimes 30 but I'm
pretty good at negotiating them down if they want the job So at least 50 grand probably closer to 60 or 70 Actually what I wrote down is that you're looking at about um approximately 50 grand on the lowest end Yeah Yeah Yes Okay Commissioner Williams you said we've
done you've been through this three times What was the approach you guys used prior i mean I think we could do multiple right i don't think it's mutually exclusive I think we could do all three Definitely internal Um and then we've got some runway for the RFP process So I think we can do all four of them but I'm just curious what
historically we've done Yeah Um we've gone with where we had did a a bid you know and let firms come in and say why we should choose them to be our recruiter for the next city manager Right Uh a couple of times
we did it that way Um this last go round And of course we didn't do it for of course we didn't do it for Wayne but for the city manager previous to that there's an association of retired city
managers that basically does a similar job in recruiting uh basically for free less their travel costs So all we paid was their travel costs and their meals when they were
here and their lodging So it was it was much cheaper but right um I can't quantify uh lack of better word the bang for the buck versus using one of these
professional firms So right And I think last time one of the times it was around 30,000 but costs have gone up One of the things I did want to mention um please be aware that within Bvard County you
have um Cape Canaveral Palm Bay Fel's Mayor as well as the county manager who's announced retirement So we're competing with all of those cities that are also um challenged with finding a city manager right now So I just want you to be aware of that Do they all have
a brand new city hall you know what do you consider brand new you know I'm going to I'm going to throw it out there that um if you watch their meetings and you watch our meetings um I think we show that we're a lot more
levelheaded and a lot easier to work with I think um I don't think we'll have as hard of a time even though our pay is a little lower And I I honestly I think our pay is is acceptable for for what we offer Cocoa Beach is is a is a really
awesome place to to be and I think a lot of people would just love to be able to to run one of the top eight beaches in the in the sales pitch right there So I'm going to tell you that I think Coco Beach is amazing I agree with you 100%
But I'm going to tell you I've been doing this a very long time and you are not going to have an easy time finding a city manager This is going to be an absolute challenge And I talked to my counterparts all over the country I have resources from Alaska to Florida and everywhere in between And I'm telling
you right now that this is one of the biggest challenges that they're facing in in the municipal world both at the state level for leadership and the municipal level uh as well So I'm I'm going to tell you I guarantee you this is not going to be easy I I have one
more thing that we have a it's not I don't think it's in the um in our charter ordinance that that a city manager has to live in Cocoa Beach right but we've required it um you know due to the fact of uh you know the cost of
buying a house in Cocoa Beach is far exceeds probably the income at this point from that they could live basically in Bard County I mean yeah I I wouldn't go any further than Bard County cuz we had No no I we had a city manager
that was commuting from Winter Park and Well we tried to get him to move here but he uh he kept pushing it off I don't think he heard us I think No no but I'm just saying that you need a city manager be available you know within the hour should something big happen in the city
and needs his his direction And I thank you for that because I'm going to tell you that that would be a challenge as well and it would um it would be incosible if you for the salary that we're paying with the housing I had gone
over this I think with Becky and I did some research I pulled up Zillow how many houses were available single family homes under a million dollars And on the day I did it there was four and they were all $500 or more And you know from the ratio of other places in Bvar County
um so we were very limited in opening that up more than just Cocoa Beach is is going to make a difference but I still think you have a challenge ahead of you And we wouldn't necessarily have to go Bvard County We could do a mile radius that way you have a little bit of oyola
that could include and normally if you do a radius you do it like as a crow flies so you you draw that circle not as a GPS map drives so if you say 50 miles as a bird flies 25 miles as a bird flies so I'd prefer 10 but
I think that's very limiting we could 15 20 25 um I like I mean your idea also trying the uh the service the free service but obviously we're in almost
kind of a time crunch here Um we got about five months or so Um I mean what if we try try that for a month if we're not really getting any anything then we'll go to the paid service Yeah but they they go through almost they take them they go through almost the same
process They just don't charge anything but their travel time and their expenses But they'll still come talk to all of us They'll talk to staff We got to find out if we can fit their schedule And uh they're they're not as highly motivated
as somebody that would be on a contract And I will say they're not free They you know their services may be free but all the advertisement all the other things cost right but the this other proposal you gave us we pay for advertising also
even with a professional firm Yes Yeah So basically you've got look somebody in house you know you could do probationary period see if that's going to work You could go with these people that are less expensive but
it probably take just as long or you can go with a a nationwide firm I I hear from our city attorney actually Um I I would like to mention something because two of the cities that my firm
represents right now are in this process and each of them one of them is Fort Myers Beach Um and the other is the city of Brooksville The city of Brooksville just hired a very qualified person Um both of them did it inhouse They didn't
other than the cost of advertising um which you know they placed the advertisements in the same places that you know the big companies would would place the ads and um Brooksville which
is a well I guess population-wise it's similar to here but you know who knows where Brooksville is um and they were able to get really qualified people or one really qualified person who's who ended up being very good And then um
Fort Myers Beach which has a lot of challenges because it was wiped out in by Hurricane Ian Um they actually got uh over 80 applicants and they have five of them who are really wellqualified and
they're going to be having their interviews I think the interviews are either tomorrow or next Friday I don't recall But um you know it is possible Huh Huh we just go there and interview them It is
Well it is it is possible to do to save a lot of money and do it on your own The the one thing that y'all don't have a problem with that both of those cities probably did is everyone around the world knows where Cocoa Beach is and
knows what it is and how cool of a place it is So you don't need a slick brochure I mean you say Cocoa Beach and people drew Yeah So um you know it just I I just wanted to throw it out there because it is another option and it does
work and I could very easily with a an easy phone call find out where all those things were were posted for those two cities and they got good responses So and and the other thing is um we have
our city records of all those wherewithal that went into those previous searches Sure And and what they did and the brochure We have all that and all that Yep I looked it up So it would be more work on us uh as a
commission but we could take that data pick the things we like out of it put together our own uh solicitation Becky can get us where where to send all the ads to
I definitely can do that We would have to have an in the sunshine meeting to go through that that process to to put together a package And what they the way they did that in both cities was they sent out all the um the packet
information you know the applications and the resumes and whatever people you know sent along and they sent those out um two weeks in advance to each one of the elected officials and they went
through them and they came to a meeting and said "I want to interview this person this person this person this person." They they whittleled it down That's how we That's what we did Yeah I mean and and it it's and it's a quick
it's in both of those places it was relatively quick If I can interject this this is probably the biggest decision we're going to make as commissioners All right Um it's it's very important to get the right person as a city manager because they're running the city I mean
we we write policy they run the city Um I don't want to rush into I don't want to make a decision on which direction we go tonight I don't think we need to do that We we're fortunate that we do have until the end of August which again it's it's four months but
um if we look at all our options and over the next two weeks each of us individually talk to staff and um discuss the options and the directions we can go on this rather than making that decision tonight of what which
direction to go or to go all of them which we don't doesn't make any sense to do to me um that we come back on May 1st and make that decision based on the information we get over the next two weeks Okay So
so for myself yep I can say it at this meeting Um I like to put Cindy and whatever staff you want to put together for work and go ahead and build a package of what it would look like if we
were going to do it internally as a commission So we'll kind of get a feel for that at our May 1st meeting as one of the options Okay So I will um I will also get you a list of all of the and it's probably the same list that they use So we'll you know send it to I'll
make sure I get them all Sure Um they're very common websites that we use for city managers both locally here in the state of Florida and then nationally like the International City Managers Association and there's several others that um we utilize to find positions
right i mean give us when you what of my requests is you can bring however many different packages for different options you want but please bring one that says if we as a commission did it internally Yes Yeah I was going to put all the
costs in there for you all the different avenues but by doing it ourselves and all the different resources Okay And then you can decide But but make it so it's A B and C not all mushed together You got it No problem
Okay Okay The good thing is we don't have to pay any of these guys travel time or costs or hotel expenses All right All right All right So do we need a motion to table to the May 1st meeting for a decision
yes I make a motion we table a decision on this matter to their May 1st meeting Second All right Motion a second All in favor i I All right Motion uh tabled Uh number two no we table next meeting Next
meeting Okay Item two requests for parking spaces at the Beach Island Resort Lasses Association Inc Daytime parking permits for guests that stay at the resort for the 11th Street parking area just down
from the resort next to Marble Blue Condominium Request Penelopey E Casic recommendation discuss um I brought the discussion up yesterday last meeting and um things really haven't changed
much issues I get called at 3 and I'm out for my They might get a ticket Did you mind real quick um I just need to make a motion that we would discuss it We didn't get a motion in a second on it So let me just kind of do it in order here
and then have you come Sorry about that Motion discuss Motion Yeah Motion discussed Second Second All right Yeah Go ahead You get to start over on your three minute
You have three minutes agenda Um we really need to pass this because our revenues have increased drastically this year versus the past and the fact that we've been there since
1950 and has been a motel and then a time share all that time says a lot because we didn't really have this parking next to us became parking and then it became more of an issue for us
Like I mentioned before we have 17 units and we have 11 spots out front and then purchased the rental of seven additional spots on 11th Street And the problem with that is during the day they've got
to move their car or get tickets or to have a guest who's going to be staying two days three days have to go get a parking permit just to be able to park there during the day while they're enjoying the beach and around the town
It's it's a lot to ask for a few days And uh we have currently in the last month lost about three guests because there was no parking and they didn't want to be where they could have park
Oh oh okay And um so that's become a big issue Uh the parking has always been an issue for us but you know the fact that we don't have enough spaces and
we're willing to rent the daytime spaces if at all possible like and attach them to our evening passes so we have a complete 24-hour passing ability or what would be involved in grandfathering us in to that i know you'd mentioned that
before And did you find out any information with regard to the financials with the street down below 11th and and on the other side yes Okay When you're done with your um Oh my three minutes Yeah Then I'll address um the complaints don't stop
with regard to parking And like I'd mentioned before the phone calls come from our host that they're sending us the guess that so and so doesn't have a pass What are we supposed to do and luckily I've talked to Marble Blue and
they're able to take a few cars but it's only rarely that they do that and it's it's really affecting our revenues you know So you know I've got 53 seconds So that's kind of where I stand at it right now And we would really appreciate you
thinking seriously about assisting us in the parking situation that we have Okay Thank you You may sit down Thank you Okay [Music] So I talked with the city staff about this Basically I wanted to figure out a
way that we can work with her because she's been around since before um before parking meters So there's and there's only a couple a couple places like that in the city that that have been around before parking meters when they just
used to park on the side of the road That was their extra parking They never really had enough for what they were doing Um and really she's really one of the only ones that could be possibly grandfathered into something like this Um I checked on the revenue the revenue
for the the three streets uh I think it was uh 10th 11th and 12th Basically all the ones around her uh an average of around 11,000 a year parking is what we what we received from that Um she I
think she was wanting 10 spaces I think we have 15 available I I personally wouldn't want to give up that many spaces on a permanent basis My my thought on that was um keep her the
seven Um but if she wanted 24 hours I think maybe the revenue would have to be closer to what we would receive in that year which I think fair would be around 7,500 uh a year for full-time parking
passes for seven passes But that's just I'm just talking to commission and see what you guys think about that Um that uh we're talking 11th Street Yeah And that is a very highly trafficked street
on the weekends for people to have parking passes I mean hardly any weekend day uh when there's any surf at all Can you go there and it's not filled with cars okay And a lot of them are people with
parking passes that live in Cocoa Beach And um so that would And it's kind of has its own little vibe there at 11th Street too you know Um so given up that many places on that one
street I I I wouldn't you know I don't think that's a good option Um one option that could be considered is the next street down on the other side of them It may be a little bit more walking distance but at least
it's we wouldn't be giving up all those spots on the same street What if What if we stagger between the two streets that's what I'm saying They already have they already have the nighttime ones Yeah for the seven For the seven right
they could You could actually up their nighttime ones if you want I don't really want to give up more than seven spaces No I'm just saying they're nighttime ones because we people don't really go up there at night Okay But but I I would think staggering between the
two two streets would be better than trying to basically give a business all the convenient local parking at a place that you know has its own little uh click of people that go there from Cocoa Beach
You said there would be like a unique parking pass for 11th Street and a unique one for 12th Street Well they would have there like a a placard a placard or something They have to have an 11 street specific one and a 12 street And the only reason why I'm considering this is because there's really no other Well nobody's requested
this before but also there's really no other places around left that have really been operating with the owner that was around before these passes were um you know necessary So I'm just trying to work
with somebody that's been OG you know someone that's been around forever Seven passes would be very sufficient for us So maybe maybe um three three passes at 11th and three at 12 whatever is closest to or four at
24 hours Yeah 24 hours Three at 11 and four at 12 Um you know or whatever the streets that are closer to them Quite a distance from us is what's closer 12th or 9th 11
So um your well I I suggest just a placard that they could park whether they park at 11th Street or Ninth Street or wherever they park is I don't think that because of what he's talking about There's a lot of people that do go to
surf at specifically 11th Street and if their placards can go anywhere then they can take up that right They can go to they can park in the parking garage they park you know So a person could get a parking pass for $60 right and park anywhere Park anywhere in the city right
for $7,500 you can get 125 of those So that's Yeah but they have to be But they're not transferable from vehicle to vehicle right i understand that She's running She's running a business and she needs I understand But it's going to cost $7,500 Yeah And $7,500 is you know
when you run a business you don't pay that out of your pocket It's not how it works You got to raise your rates And if she's got an increase of 214% occupancy couple things I mean tell somebody how to run a business I mean
you can obviously raise your rates I mean if she wants to pay she does Well that's what it is That's for three years No it doesn't matter Percentage is percentage No no no She she as she was saying I know she wants 2500 for the
year Am I reading that wrong that's too cheap Right Our occupancy numbers have increased drastically this year and we're bringing in more tourist dollars Our revenues have increased 217% in three months
Where I came up with the 7500 was because uh we currently make around 11,000 a year I agree I don't want to short change the city I agree By trying to help a business and I don't want to short change the residents by taking away their spaces So if we did like Skip
said and we can do three and four it's not going to affect the residents much and it's going to help them And this is just just daytime You don't want additional night time She wants that too Now I just need to accomp 7500 for 24 hours Yeah she's
asking to go from seven night time to 724 So yeah right Right But we want to split them up between 11th Street and 12th Street I I think and you know if people are on vacation I mean they pull up and drop
their luggage They can go to 12 park They can walk down to the beach and walk down the beach back to your hotel I mean how nice is that you know that's what most people want to do as soon as they get here I mean if I'm at
the at the convenience store they're where's the beach where's the beach i walk across that way you know So anyways everybody wants to go to the beach I would personally be okay with that that agreement if you guys think that is doable So let me ask So right now
they're paying she's paying $2400ish 25 Okay that's a perfect number $2,500 for just nighttime So we're suggesting uh the same number for daytime which you calculated to be 11,000 for those that area So it's another $7,500 So it' be
$10,000 for 24 hours 7500 for 24 hours So it's $5,000 then for daytime parking Yeah Okay Here we go I just wanted to explain the contract that they currently have in
place So right now um they have seven overnight parking spaces between 5:00 p.m and 9:00 a.m And the annual cost that they're paying the city is $2,400 What they're requesting is 10 overnight spaces And I researched the
revenues that we currently collect on 11th Street It's 11,000 each year For 12th Street it's a little bit more than 10,000 and the revenues for 10th Street around 9,000 Yeah it's over 30,000 Yeah but I'm
talking about the amount of spaces is to between 10th and 11th is around 30 spaces They want seven spaces So you're talking about 20,000 between those two I think 7,500 is fair for the city I think it's fair for them in my opinion And if
we can stagger it between the two I think I think it's I think it's a win-win for everybody in my my opinion Yeah How would you want the spaces divided if you do stagger them between four do four at 11th because that's closest to her and then the other three
overflows at 12th Okay We're predicating this on this being essentially a grandfather need to do anything specific with language to say look this is not a the precedence that we're setting this is specific to these if the I'd say if
the if the place gets sold this would be null and void yeah not transferable because if somebody else could buy it they want to build something else I don't know you're saying mitigating other agencies coming and doing it I just want to make sure that we're not setting a precedence where we then Yeah
there's there's a whole bunch of little motel down there that all going to say I've been here forever and they you know I want Yeah we'll we'll hear more about this but that's why we don't definitely don't want to go overboard right yeah So I think we need to craft the language of
however we capture this to be very specific but principled not we're giving this specific business but on this basis and that's why I had asked um staff to see if they could find any other businesses that have been around as long as they have which was before this would
be only for people that have a business like this that have been around before the parking meters owned it that have owned it before the parking meters and I don't believe there's that many um so I don't feel like we're going to have an influx of people You can still because all the other businesses have enough
parking and and nobody's asked Yeah They're in a unique position where they don't have enough um parking paces for their business Yeah And I and I think just making sure we capture that language specifically in whatever we Yeah The language should basically say
uh provided obviously that your business didn't doesn't have enough spaces was owned before has been prior to to the um the uh parking program Okay we all kind of in agreement with
that All right Uh any other public comment on this all right All All in favor with uh bring it back We Yeah We direction We're going to bring it back This was just a Yeah just to give them direction So we're all good with that Yeah All right
Consensus All right Meeting back Okay Yeah Meet meeting public comment You don't have public comment unless there wasn't only public comment if there wasn't addressed before So we're
good Yes Come on I can't hear you So and this is probably a um I'm not sure where it calls it here You couldn't talk to it when under public comments but because it was on the agenda and then you tabled it I still think I would
like to say something I will allow you to say it Go ahead Thank you Thank you very much Um I think it's great for you to go and try an internal We did it last time when I was um an employee It's very time consuming You've got three people in HR It's very time consuming It's
really important to do the brochure We did the brochure in in um inside and that was pretty good um the city managers that will go ahead and they will call out the people you need as far as um
qualifications But my question is is that I think you all need to establish the criteria that you want for a city manager I think that's the first thing you need to do What are the qualifications what are you going to require as far as education what are you going to require because of of
experience you know etc etc etc when you go ahead and go this big step you need criteria to be able for for your um HR to put together and a pamphlet that shows this is the criteria that we are
looking for in a city manager And I understand that you've got a county city a county manager up they're looking for one Palm Bay is looking for one We don't compete with Pal Bay There isn't anybody who's going to apply to city of Cocoa Beach that wants to go to Palm Bay because Palm Bay is the biggest city in
Bvard County Um so our competition is Cape Canaveral and Cocoa Beach is what your competition is Felsmore Who wants to go to Thelsmore you know let's be real So but it's going to be a difficult search because being in public service
right now is hard and you're going to encounter a lot of hard things happening in the next couple years and right now it's hard because your city manager is leaving you in a very poor position You're in the middle of budgeting in
August and you're going to bring in someone new to come in right into the middle of budgeting That's difficult You know maybe you ask him to give you an extension to make sure you get through the budgets before you go ahead and get a new city manager and you take the time
necessary Four and a half months is really shortlived But that's my my two cents on it is that get your criteria together so we know exactly what we're looking at and make sure the public knows what your criteria is Always we've done that Always set out what it is and
not requiring them to live in Cocoa Beach is a good idea It's always been a big p big big challenge Even when it was affordable it was a big challenge to get a city manager But I would limit it because Bvard County is 75 miles w long
You know you could be very far away from us Um you know take the compass out and see if you can come up with something in a reasonable and look at the housing values see what compared what the salary is going to be and if it's in the circle that there's some places for her or him
to to to live that would be a good idea Winning a